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It is Thursday, nine o'clock, I am Jeremy Gosling. -- Joanna Gosling.

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Lloyds Bank has announced it is axing a further 3,000 jobs

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and doubling its planned branch closures, with 200 more

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to be go from the UK's high-streets by the end of 2017.

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The cuts are in addition to the 9,000 job and 200 branch

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The man in charge of the bank is blaming brexit.

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We are talking exclusively to a woman who's dad died

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in hospital after doctors decided wrongly that his life could not be

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They used the controversial Liverpool Care Pathway and have

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admitted for the first time that it killed him.

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Should the photos of terrorists be splashed across the media?

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France's leading newspaper is banning them - saying it

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gives them the publicity and glory they crave.

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Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

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Lots coming up, do you think that the names and photos

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of terrorists should be published - does it give them the

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Tell us what you think as a leading french newsaper has

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Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning -

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use the hashtag VictoriaLive and If you text, you will be charged

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Lloyds Banking Group is cutting a further 3,000 jobs

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The high street lender - still ten per cent

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owned by the taxpayer - says it's preparing for a cut

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in interest rates after last month's vote to leave the EU.

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Let's go straight to our Business Correspondent Ben Thompson

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who has all the details - he's at the London Stock

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They are blaming breaks it, tell us why taking this action. Looks like

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cannot hear us. We cannot go to him. We will check in with then a little

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later to get more on exactly what is happening with Lloyds, and why they

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say breaks it is to blame. Actually, I think you can hear us now. Can you

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hear me? I can, welcome to the stock exchange. Technical gremlins getting

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in the way. Nevertheless we are talking about Lloyds, a raft of

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details coming through from all sorts of businesses. Lloyd is one of

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the crucial ones. Recapping on what he said in the introduction. Another

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3000 jobs to go at Lloyd's, on top of the 9000 already announced last

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year, taking to 12,000 across the country. Also more branch closures.

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Closing another 200 branches up and down the UK. By this time next year

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400 will have disappeared from our high street. Why are they doing it?

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They have blamed breaks it, because of the record low interest rates,

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there is an expectation that the cost of borrowing will fall further.

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That means the profit margin that the banks can charge, on loans and

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mortgages get smaller and smaller. Making less money. Pointing to the

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fact we're changing the way we our banking. Not going into bank

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branches, doing it on our phones and mobiles, tablets and computers

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instead. They want to save about ?400 million. Announcing plans to

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cut those jobs, close those branches this morning. The biggest fall is on

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the stock market, Lloyds down almost two and three quarters of a percent.

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That is what investors are thinking. Not going down well with people

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campaigning to keep branches open. All of this coming at the same time,

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that they have announced pre-tax profits doubling to ?2.5 billion.

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All other factors they are citing as reasons for job losses and closures

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could apply to any banks, we will expect others to do similar? We have

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seen a raft of bank closures and lay-offs in the past few years.

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Largely as a result of the changing weight weedy banking. When was the

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last time you went to a branch, paid in a cheque over-the-counter? That

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has changed. Progress suggests it will go one. More of us using mobile

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phones to do our banking. Contactless payments, credit cards.

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All of that changing the way we do banking. No surprise they are

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closing. After all they are very expensive, prime high street

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locations, costing money to run and keep staff in them. Particularly

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important in rural areas, they need to stay open, according to critics.

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It is the lifeline of the local community. Local businesses paying

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money and, taking cash out, also needed for older people unable to

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access Internet or do it on the mobile phone. They want face-to-face

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interaction. A lot of banks struggling with how they adapt to

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new technology. What will they look like 5-10 years from now, still

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trying to work that out. Particularly galling, given they

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have announced profits rising to ?2.5 billion. At the same time

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escalating the cost-cutting strategy, laying 3000 staff off on

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top of the 9000 last year. 200 branches to go. On top of 200 last

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year. 400 in total. Let's catch up with the rest of the

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news. Anita is in the newsroom. The long-awaited decision

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on whether a new nuclear power will be built at Hinckley Point

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in Somerset could come today. The French energy firm EDF

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is holding a board meeting where it's expected to approve

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the giant ?18 billion pound project. Here's our business

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correspondent John Moylan: It is a project on a vast scale. The

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twin nuclear reactors planned for Hinkley point will provide 7% of the

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UK's electricity. Due to start generating in 2025, one of the first

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nuclear plants to be given the green light in Europe in years.

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Preparation work at this site is under way. EDF ploughing in 2.5

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billion euros. After years of delays it is set to be approved. Hinkley

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point See will cost 21 billion euros. One of the most expensive

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man-made structures on the planet. The Chinese group CGN is a 35% stake

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in the project. Part of a wider deal which could see Chinese reactors

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built in Britain. French ambitions to export nuclear technology around

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the world have suffered a series of setbacks. The EDF project in France

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has been hit by delays and is billions of euros over budget. The

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finance chief resigned earlier this year, amid concerns soaring costs

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could destabilise EDF's finances. The powerful unions want Hinkley

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point to be delayed. Earlier this week the shareholders approved a

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major refinancing plan, paving the way for today's decision. The UK

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looks set to enter a new nuclear era.

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French police have formally identified the second of the two

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attackers who killed an elderly priest in Rouen on Tuesday.

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He's Abdelmalik Petitjean, who was 19 and from eastern France.

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An identity card belonging to Abdelmalik Petitjean was found

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in the house of the other attacker, Adel Kermiche, but because his body

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was so badly disfigured in the police shooting

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it was impossible to be sure it was him.

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But now DNA tests have confirmed it.

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The group calling itself is Lamex Stadium has allegedly released video

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evidence of the two pledging themselves to its leader.

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Barack Obama has urged Democrats to unite behind Hillary Clinton

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as the most qualified person ever to run for the White House.

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Closing the third day of the Democratic National Convention,

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the outgoing President praised Mrs Clinton as someone

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Meanwhile, the Republican candidate Donald Trump took advantage of more

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controversy surrounding the leak of emails and voicemails

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from the Democratic national Committee.

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Kim Ghattas reports from Philadelphia:

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On the third night of their convention,

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the Democrats brought out their biggest asset.

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The popular president, and gifted speaker, he

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for Hillary Clinton as the Commander-in-Chief.

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Time and again you have picked me up.

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Tonight I ask you to do for Hillary Clinton what you

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I ask you to carry the same way you carried me.

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President Obama knows that to preserve his

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legacy he needs Hillary Clinton to win the White House.

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Her rival had just stirred up a storm, after

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allegations Russia was behind hacking into the Democrat party.

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He suggested Russia should hack Hillary

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Russia, I hope you are able to find the 30,000

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You will be probably rewarded mightily by our

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At the Democratic convention, from Joe Biden, to Senator Ted Caine,

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They all attacked Mr Trump as a demagogue and

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After President Obama laid out his vision

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for America, a surprise appearance by the woman he hopes will take it

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Theresa May's European Union tour moves to Poland and Slovakia today

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as she continues talks on preparing for Brexit.

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It follows a meeting with the Italian Prime Minister

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yesterday, as well as talks in Germany, France and Ireland

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Slovakia and Poland are among the EU states which benefit most

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They have voiced concern about the rights of their nationals

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The Turkish Government has ordered the closure of nearly

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100 media organisations, as part of the crackdown

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Almost 100 newspaper and broadcast journalists have also been arrested

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The crackdown by Turkey's president has also targeted service personnel,

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judges, government officials, school teachers

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Immigration officials have arrested dozens of workers

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at the burger chain, Byron.

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The Home Office said 35 people from Albania, Brazil,

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The operation took place earlier this month at restaurants

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across London, but information has only just emerged.

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Officials said it had been carried out with the restaurant chain's

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A study of more than a million people has found that doing an hour

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of activity a day could offset the health risks of sitting

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The journal the Lancet has published a series of papers on the costs

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of physical inactivity which is linked to an increased risk

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of heart disease, diabetes and some cancers.

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we know that sedentary behaviour is detrimental to health.

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We wanted to understand whether physical activity

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to eliminate the association between sitting time and inactivity.

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If you are physically active for at least

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one hour a day you are able to offset the association between

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We're going to have tips on the sort of exercise you can do when you are

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sitting down, stay with us. Plenty coming up on the programme. Do you

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think the names and photographs of terrorists should be published? Does

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it give them the publicity they crave? A leading French newspaper

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has decided to ban them. We are looking into the new research, with

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some experts, to give us some handy tips.

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Let's catch up with the sport. We have an Olympic themed bulletin

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this morning. Why not? The games are just a week away. We will hear from

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the under fire IOC boss in a moment. First, to Team GB's preparations.

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They have arrived at their training camp, 300 miles from Rio. It has

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been financed by lottery grants, and officials say it has the best

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facilities in Brazil. We have been to Brazil to take a look.

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Sonny Webster may not be one of Team GB's best medal prospects. No

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attention to detail has been spared. The under 98 kilograms weightlifter

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provided with the same equipment at the training camp that he will use

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later in Rio. Written's two weightlifters among the first to

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arrive in Brazil along with the big boxing contingent, among them Nicola

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Adams. Gold medallist in London, favourite to repeat that in Rio,

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clearly enjoying the Olympic atmosphere. ?1.6 million in lottery

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funding has been spent on getting this training camp right. Ringing

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together athletes from 28 different sports, under one flag. The key part

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is bringing the team together, not the individual national governing

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bodies going to rear, the aim is Team GB, trying to unite the team to

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bring them together to take on the world in the greatest challenge of

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their lives, the Olympic Games environment. After coming third in

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the medals table in London, Team GB has set a realistic but difficult

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target of 48 medals in Rio. Using the best facilities is a key part of

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achieving that target. This is a brand-new swimming pool in Belo

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Horizonte, used by the entire squad. By their own high standards British

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swimmers underperformed four years ago. Fran Halsall and Hannah Miley

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among the swimmers in Brazil, training in reportedly the best

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facilities in the country. More than 270 miles from Rio, this training

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camp is inadvertently keeping UK athletes away from wider

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distractions, including the political dispute on whether Russian

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competitors should be excluded. Reports of the much travelled

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athletes village, that should be ready by the time they arrive in

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Rio. The British athletes will use facilities installed and paid for by

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Team GB. Bosses insist they will have the best preparation possible.

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Well, the Russian athletes who have not been band have also been

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arriving in Rio. The IOC president has been justifying the decision not

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to ban the entire Russian team. It is appreciated, on the one hand we

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are sanctioning the system, but on the other hand, we give athletes who

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are not part of the system, the opportunity to demonstrate this.

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That is all the sport for now, but at 9:30am, we will take a look at

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all the stories today and an in-depth look in our 's time.

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Thank you. In an exclusive interview

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this morning, Her dad died after doctors wrongly

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decided that his life could not He was put on the notorious and now

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discredited end of life care plan This meant that doctors withdrew

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fluids and medication from Joseph and told Jayne

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he was close to death. She spent the next three years

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fighting to get answers and the hospital trust

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has now apologised. This is believed to be the first

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time hospital chiefs have publicly accepted the Liverpool Care Pathway

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had "killed" a patient. We'll speak to Jayne in a moment,

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but first let's remind ourselves Just under half of us die in a

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hospital. Good end of life or palliative care is designed to make

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that last experience as comfortable and dignified as possible. The

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Liverpool care pathway, introduced in the 90s in England, Scotland and

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Northern Ireland was meant to make that easier. Among other things, it

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introduced a check list, think of it as a prompt for hospital staff to

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help them work out when drugs, fluids and invasive tests can be

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stopped. Those kind of treatments can be painful or unhelpful in the

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last stage of life. The pathway often worked well, but when it went

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wrong, it was extremely controversial. There were reports of

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treatments being moved too quickly. Some families said their loved ones

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had been left without food or water. The most damaging complaint was

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around communication. Some patients were being put on the LCP without

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anyone giving permission. Some families only found out about it

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after a loved one had passed away. After all the controversy, in 2013,

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the government scrapped the Liverpool care pathway in England.

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It is also being phased out in Scotland and Northern Ireland. It

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should be replaced with individual end of life plans, tailored to the

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patient and discussed with their family but the discussion is not

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over. Some critics say the government have just rebranded the

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LCP, giving it a different name but continuing many of the same

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practices. Well, Jayne Boberek,

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whose father would have home had he not been placed

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on the Liverpool Care Pathway, Thank you for coming in. You have

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had a long battle to prove what happened. Take us back to when your

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father went into hospital. He was 92. He had chronic background

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conditions but these were being treated adequately. He had a routine

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chest infection and he was admits it being dehydrated already, so I

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presume the hydration aspect was being taken care off, as it usually

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was. A few days later, I noticed he was not eating or drinking properly,

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although he said he wanted food so I knew he had an appetite. I reported

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this to the visiting therapist and she told the staff on the Monday

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morning and they gave him extra fluids. But I didn't know at the

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time, less than a quarter of these had been administered, and a few

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days later, a junior doctor told me that the whole team had been talking

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and they were thinking not to treat my father, because he had developed

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a further infection, and his chronic heart, kidney and liver conditions

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were at a terminal stage. That is how it was presented. I said, if

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antibiotics had a good effect, what would be the result? They said, even

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then, the problem is his heart. So effectively, he was not being

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treated at this point. I only found out later he already was not being

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treated. This was 29 hours without oral fluids and a day and a half

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without his routine medications by the time I was approached. It was

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quite confusing picture, in that you were being told that there were

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various conditions going on which you subsequently discovered were not

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the case. He seemed to be deteriorating, but you now know that

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is because he was not getting the fluids. Was it a simple case of the

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hydration, do you think? I think it was lack of care, lack of oral

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dehydration, lack of clinically assisted rehydration, and I am not

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sure if this was deliberate incompetency or what. You were told

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that he was getting a lot of fluid, but he wasn't? I had alerted them to

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the fact I felt he was not getting enough intake, yes. I presumed this

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was being taken care of. Why do you think he was not being given that

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fluid? I think it was a mixture of things. I think it was difficult.

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The cannula came out, it was not reinserted. The fluid was not

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continued. I am really not sure. I think it was a lack of factors, a

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lack of substandard care and a lack of adequate care. That is your dad.

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That is him, yes. Tell us a bit about him. He was quite a character.

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That is what people said to me in the hospital, he is quite a

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character, your dad. He was. He was very fiery, very opinionated, and

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even though he was over 90, he had life left in him yet. When I saw him

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in the bed deteriorating, I presumed, and it was presented to

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me, that this was part of his condition, his medical condition. I

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found out from the report, and from my research, that it wasn't. The

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dehydration was the likely cause, and the removal of his routine

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medications. Why were you so certain, because you had doctors

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telling you he had an infection, you could see the deterioration, and you

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did not know at that stage it was down to hydration, why were you so

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sure that you were not getting the whole picture? I still, even up to

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the moment he died, I believed he had another infection, and that his

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organs were failing, but it looked to me like he was battling for life.

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They looked like he was not ready to let go, and the question was,

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whether to intervene, when I believed his organs were absolutely

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failing, and this was the end stage. Afterwards, I left the hospital,

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knowing that something profoundly wrong had happened, that I had

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witnessed, something deeply wrong, and that is when I started to pursue

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it myself, and got his records. The doctors said they had been talking

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about his condition and whether to effectively put him on the Liverpool

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Care Pathway. How's that bit to you? This was very odd, because it was at

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530 in the late afternoon and I had been asking them all day, I had been

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alerting them, he has not eaten, he has not drunk all day, I am

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concerned. I was alerting them that there was something wrong, and I

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presumed as if this was presented as his ongoing medical conditions, this

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was a consequence of them. Hydration wasn't even on my radar. I naturally

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assumed, it was such basic care, that he had been given all adequate

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hydration. This was what I presumed. Word they open with you about the

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Liverpool Care Pathway? No. The junior doctor said I can go and get

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the papers for the Liverpool Care Pathway now. That alerted me that

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something was wrong. And so, I said, I agree to hold on. I thought I was

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agreeing just to stop the antibiotics, just to hold onto that,

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but I presumed everything else was continuing, it was just the

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medication that was on hold. So you did not know it was effectively a

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pathway that would ease him to his end? I did not know that it had been

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started. I think it was effectively underway without the paperwork. The

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paperwork was put in place the next day. I think a day and a half before

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I was even spoken to, it was already underway. I had power of attorney,

:25:43.:25:49.

so this is the last thing I was expecting. When I had power of

:25:50.:25:54.

attorney, I should have been consulted regarding all medical

:25:55.:25:59.

decisions, all clinical decisions. So after he died, you asked to see

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the records? Yes. How quickly did you work out what had happened? The

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records in themselves that were sent to me were not complete. There were

:26:12.:26:16.

a few crucial pages missing which confirmed he had not received all

:26:17.:26:23.

his hydration, or his IV fluids. These pages I received after the

:26:24.:26:29.

investigation when I pursued and pursued them, asking for an

:26:30.:26:31.

explanation, or to give me these pages. So I received the pages

:26:32.:26:39.

incomplete. I did a lot of research and I could see the responses given

:26:40.:26:45.

by the hospital. The first response said they followed the best

:26:46.:26:49.

principles of palliative care, and his organs were failing, he would

:26:50.:26:55.

not have recovered anyway even with treatment. The second response told

:26:56.:27:01.

me that his diagnosis of dying and his care was correct in all aspects.

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I could see the information they were giving me did not match up with

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the medical records. I am a non-medical person. What is your

:27:12.:27:16.

background? It is quite something went doctors are telling you

:27:17.:27:22.

something... Very senior doctors. And then everyone is saying they are

:27:23.:27:25.

agreeing with a position which is very different from the position you

:27:26.:27:29.

suspect. What was your background that made you sort of able to pick

:27:30.:27:35.

through that and keep on fighting? It was odd to me that a very senior

:27:36.:27:40.

palliative care physician was telling me that my father was dying

:27:41.:27:45.

on a Wednesday morning, but it was okayed to consult me on a Thursday

:27:46.:27:50.

evening. That sounded odd in itself. When I picked through the detail and

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I could see it did not match up with his medical records, all that was

:27:56.:27:59.

left was a prognosis that he was likely to die in the future. That

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was really literally all that was left, when you removed the incorrect

:28:05.:28:17.

statements made. This was a fight that went over three years. Yes! How

:28:18.:28:21.

much toing and froing was there? I managed to get the final pages a

:28:22.:28:25.

year and a half after he died, the puzzle fell into place because there

:28:26.:28:30.

were nursing notes and you could see he had the, the fluids had not been

:28:31.:28:37.

administered. I referred it to the ombudsman because the hospital did

:28:38.:28:41.

not want to pursue it any further. And the ombudsman said you were

:28:42.:28:47.

right? Yes. What was it like when you had that three? It was not a

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surprise really. I had still believed at that point that my

:28:53.:28:57.

father's organs had been at the end stage, that his background

:28:58.:29:01.

conditions were terminal. But that was a shock to me, that he wasn't.

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As far as we know, yours is the only case, where it has been assessed,

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that the Liverpool care pathway did actually lead to the death of

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somebody who otherwise would have survived? Yes, his withdrawal of

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treatment, long before the Liverpool Care Pathway was in place, yes. His

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reduction. If you reduce fluids and they sit medications in a healthy

:29:34.:29:37.

person, you are going to cause deterioration, but if you do that to

:29:38.:29:43.

an old man, you certainly are. The reason the Liverpool Care Pathway

:29:44.:29:46.

was introduced was to try and ensure a dignified and comfortable death

:29:47.:29:52.

for somebody who was certainly dying, but it has now been phased

:29:53.:29:56.

out, because of concerns around why it was used. Do you think there are

:29:57.:30:03.

other lessons? I think the new guidelines are deeply worrying and

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repeat many of the same elements. The constant repetition in the new

:30:07.:30:11.

guidelines about diagnosing the dying patient, as if they can beat

:30:12.:30:17.

diagnosed. There is an inference that you can diagnose someone as

:30:18.:30:22.

dying and you cannot. There is no clinical evidence. Once you make

:30:23.:30:26.

that assumption and start removing treatment, it is a self-fulfilling

:30:27.:30:31.

prophecy. What would you tell somebody if they have concerns if

:30:32.:30:35.

they have a relative in hospital? You shouldn't have to do this but

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I'm afraid you do, you have to be suspicious about what is going on,

:30:40.:30:45.

and make sure your relatives is fully hydrated, orally and even IV.

:30:46.:30:56.

Make sure IV fluids are all given, or if they are taken down, why they

:30:57.:30:59.

are taken down. And be constantly aware that treatment and care can be

:31:00.:31:02.

removed without being aware of it. Thank you.

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We asked the Imperial College Healthcare Trust for a statement

:31:06.:31:07.

The UK could be getting its first nuclear power plant for 20 years

:31:08.:31:39.

at Hinkley Point in Somerset - we'll find out what impact

:31:40.:31:41.

the decision will have on our energy prices and the environment.

:31:42.:31:47.

And could your office job be bad for your health?

:31:48.:31:50.

Scientists say you should do one hour of exercise every day to combat

:31:51.:31:53.

the negative effects that sitting all day at work could have

:31:54.:31:56.

Let's catch up on all the news with a meter. -- Anita.

:31:57.:32:20.

Lloyds has announced this morning that it's cutting 3,000 jobs -

:32:21.:32:23.

that's in addition to the 9,000 posts it said it was

:32:24.:32:26.

It's also closing an additional 200 branches.

:32:27.:32:28.

The bank - which is part state owned - warned that Brexit

:32:29.:32:31.

could have an adverse impact on its future performance.

:32:32.:32:40.

Britain's first new nuclear power plant for decades is expected

:32:41.:32:42.

The board of the french energy firm EDF will make its final investment

:32:43.:32:46.

Hinkley Point in Somerset will take a decade to build and will supply

:32:47.:32:51.

7%of the UK's electricity over its estimated

:32:52.:32:53.

It's scheduled to begin generating power in 2025, several

:32:54.:32:56.

French police have formally identified the second of the two

:32:57.:33:14.

attackers who killed an elderly priest in Rouen on Tuesday.

:33:15.:33:16.

He's Abdelmalik Petitjean, who was 19 and from eastern France.

:33:17.:33:19.

DNA tests have confirmed it his him after an identity card belonging

:33:20.:33:21.

to Abdelmalik Petitjean was found in the house of the other

:33:22.:33:24.

The group calling itself Islamic State has released video

:33:25.:33:27.

footage, allegedly showing the two men pledging allegiance

:33:28.:33:29.

Barack Obama has urged Democrats to unite to make Hillary Clinton

:33:30.:33:35.

Closing the third day of the Democratic National Convention,

:33:36.:33:38.

the outgoing President said his former rival

:33:39.:33:40.

Mrs Clinton was the only choice for an optimistic America.

:33:41.:33:52.

And the most qualified person ever to run for the White House.

:33:53.:33:56.

Nearly 100 media organisations in Turkey are being closed down

:33:57.:33:59.

as part of a crackdown following a failed coup

:34:00.:34:01.

Almost 100 newspaper and broadcast journalists have also been arrested

:34:02.:34:04.

The crackdown by Turkey's president has also targeted service personnel,

:34:05.:34:08.

judges, government officials, school teachers and university heads.

:34:09.:34:16.

A study of more than a million people has found that doing an hour

:34:17.:34:19.

of activity a day could offset the health risks of sitting

:34:20.:34:22.

The journal the Lancet has published a series of papers on the costs

:34:23.:34:27.

of physical inactivity which is linked to an increased risk

:34:28.:34:29.

of heart disease, diabetes and some cancers.

:34:30.:34:44.

A lot of you getting in touch with your thoughts on whether terrorists'

:34:45.:34:52.

photographs should be published, after one French newspaper said they

:34:53.:34:58.

would not be doing it. One reviewer said they glory in the publicity,

:34:59.:35:03.

deny them the gratification. John said, absolutely yes. Images of

:35:04.:35:08.

atrocities should be published widely and honestly. Good for France

:35:09.:35:13.

for banning images of the terrorists, we had to suppress our

:35:14.:35:19.

impulses to their faces. Well done France, someone with sense. They

:35:20.:35:21.

should not get media coverage anywhere. Anonymous text, I agree

:35:22.:35:26.

with banning the faces of terrorists in the papers and all media, what

:35:27.:35:31.

those murderers crave is that kind of fame and attention. Encouraging

:35:32.:35:36.

other young people to follow. As a viewer I don't want to see the faces

:35:37.:35:40.

of killers, we should focus on telling the stories of the victims.

:35:41.:35:44.

I totally agree, Isis and other terrorist groups faces should not be

:35:45.:35:50.

published. Videos should not be allowed on Facebook or similar

:35:51.:35:55.

social media sites. Let them be treated as the insignificant cowards

:35:56.:35:58.

that they are. Kevan Hurst texting, terrorism and publicity,

:35:59.:36:02.

broadcasting needs to think about this is one as the medias. Nonstop

:36:03.:36:07.

coverage by broadcasters leads into future terrorist incidents. Once

:36:08.:36:10.

they are reported, some curtailment should happen to restore is a sense

:36:11.:36:17.

of proportion. Well done to the French media, we give too much

:36:18.:36:20.

coverage to the terrorists. Do keep that coming in. Hello, there

:36:21.:36:28.

anticipation is growling ahead of next week's Olympic Games, written's

:36:29.:36:33.

first athletes arriving in Brazil, beginning their preparations. Those

:36:34.:36:39.

who have arrived in Belo Horizonte include Nicola Adams and the rest of

:36:40.:36:42.

the boxing squad. They arrive against a difficult backdrop.

:36:43.:36:47.

International Olympic Committee chief Thomas Bach has defended the

:36:48.:36:56.

decision, after Vladimir Putin called it discrimination. Celtic

:36:57.:37:03.

drew their first leg of their Champions League qualifier, 1-1.

:37:04.:37:08.

Leigh Griffiths with a late goal. Johanna Konta through to the third

:37:09.:37:17.

round of the Rogers cup in Montreal. The world number one, Jason Day,

:37:18.:37:22.

says he is running on empty as the prepares to defend the USPGA

:37:23.:37:26.

Championship in New Jersey later today. The Australian managing only

:37:27.:37:29.

one practice round after spending time with his wife is suffered an

:37:30.:37:33.

allergic reaction. More sport just after ten o'clock.

:37:34.:37:37.

Prime Minister Theresa May is continuing her whirlwind

:37:38.:37:38.

diplomacy tour of Europe with a visit to Poland.

:37:39.:37:41.

She will meet Prime Minister Polish Prime Minister Szydlo.

:37:42.:37:43.

It is expected they will discuss the ramifications of the UK's vote

:37:44.:37:46.

to leave, including the residency status of the 850,000 Poles

:37:47.:37:49.

that currently reside in the UK.

:37:50.:37:56.

We can speak to Conservative MP Daniel Kawczynski who voted to leave

:37:57.:38:01.

and originally came to Britain as a Polish immigrant in the 1970s.

:38:02.:38:05.

Kate Fejfer who is a Polish community leader

:38:06.:38:07.

and Ola Rybinska a polish journalist from Warsaw who can give us

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Thank you for joining us. Kate, what will Polish people living here be

:38:11.:38:22.

hoping for on freedom of movement? For us, important to make sure we

:38:23.:38:29.

are safe, secure to stay here. Our rights to get a job and still work,

:38:30.:38:35.

without losing care. Our Polish people feeling vulnerable about

:38:36.:38:42.

their future? Yes, we have... I spoke to friends and clients, and

:38:43.:38:48.

they are fearing for the future. You are a journalist in Poland, what

:38:49.:38:53.

will Poland be wanting to get out of the Brecht it negotiations? I think

:38:54.:38:59.

the first thing will be that Poland will want the UK to take a lot of

:39:00.:39:07.

time to leave the European Union. Poland is hoping for Brett set after

:39:08.:39:11.

2020. The Polish Prime Minister will try to convince Theresa May to take

:39:12.:39:17.

time, this bone breaks it until 2020. The reason is simple, it is

:39:18.:39:24.

about the EU funding. After 2020, the rules will change anyway for the

:39:25.:39:29.

reallocation of EU funds. If the UK leaves before that, the rules will

:39:30.:39:36.

change, and Poland will receive less money from the EU budget. This will

:39:37.:39:50.

certainly be one thing you are telling us about the EU funds, what

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about freedom of movement? Freedom of movement is important, but David

:40:03.:40:06.

Cameron gave us guarantees, not much will change, at least for the Polish

:40:07.:40:12.

people in the UK. Not such a big issue. We have, and the Polish

:40:13.:40:19.

government has a lot of trust in the UK, that the rules will not change,

:40:20.:40:25.

essentially. Theresa May has not given that guarantee. Let's bring in

:40:26.:40:30.

Daniel. How should Theresa May handle the talks, balancing

:40:31.:40:36.

written's interest on free trade, and the question of freedom of

:40:37.:40:41.

movement? She has two obviously pursue what is in the British

:40:42.:40:44.

National strategic interest. What will be vital is that we protect the

:40:45.:40:51.

rights of the British citizens living in the European Union. There

:40:52.:40:55.

are currently 1.8 million Britons living in the EU. 3 million EU

:40:56.:41:00.

citizens living in the United Kingdom. I understand the polls want

:41:01.:41:05.

to have safeguards for their continued residence in the United

:41:06.:41:09.

Kingdom, that should come about, but only when we are given the same

:41:10.:41:15.

guarantees for our citizens, currently living in the European

:41:16.:41:19.

Union. Where do you see the balance of what is in the British interest?

:41:20.:41:24.

850,000 Polish people living and working in the UK. Should they all

:41:25.:41:34.

be allowed to stay? The free movement of people is a wonderful

:41:35.:41:40.

concept in theory. In practice it has not worked, only to make

:41:41.:41:45.

countries in the European Union. Ourselves and island-macro. English

:41:46.:41:50.

is the international language, we have received a massively

:41:51.:41:54.

disproportionate number of migrants from all over the European Union in

:41:55.:41:59.

to come, work and live in the European union. I believe

:42:00.:42:03.

immigration is good for our country, but it has to be managed. The

:42:04.:42:08.

concern is that the Polish government has played to its own

:42:09.:42:12.

domestic audience, to say to them we are standing up for your rights, to

:42:13.:42:16.

live and work wherever you like in the European Union, but that is

:42:17.:42:22.

unsustainable. Bad for Poland. Because there are cities and towns

:42:23.:42:27.

rapidly becoming depopulated in Poland. They are having real

:42:28.:42:34.

problems providing public services because of the brain drain. It is

:42:35.:42:37.

bad for the United Kingdom, certain communities like Peterborough,

:42:38.:42:42.

Boston, where local services are being overwhelmed by the sheer

:42:43.:42:46.

numbers. Yes, let's protect people already here, but Syriza may must

:42:47.:42:51.

ensure that wrecks it means breaks it. United Kingdom takes back

:42:52.:42:58.

control of our borders. So we can decide who gets to come into our

:42:59.:43:01.

country to work, if they have the relevant skills, matching our skills

:43:02.:43:11.

shortages. Have you seen evidence of the brain drain? Yes, of course.

:43:12.:43:18.

This is absolutely true. It would be in the interest Poland these people

:43:19.:43:26.

came back. The problem is, I'm not sure we can assure jobs from all of

:43:27.:43:31.

them. On the same level and position, certainly not for the same

:43:32.:43:36.

money they get by working in the UK for the future. The Polish

:43:37.:43:41.

government would like to get people back, the brain drain is bad for us.

:43:42.:43:46.

The question is do we have jobs and housing for all these people? Kate,

:43:47.:43:53.

you are concern is primarily with people here already. If there were

:43:54.:43:59.

guarantees that people already here could stay, would that be what you

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want? Do you have concerns about future freedom of movement? Or not

:44:06.:44:10.

so much? Definitely, we still have family in Poland. Living in the UK,

:44:11.:44:18.

we are still going for holidays. Automatically, this may be more

:44:19.:44:22.

difficult for us. The future for us is very important, we still have

:44:23.:44:28.

family, children, they go to school, university, we would like to know

:44:29.:44:34.

what will happen. What has been the particular law of Britain for Polish

:44:35.:44:42.

people? Why have they been particularly attractive to coming to

:44:43.:44:50.

Britain in Europe? For the time, the financial programme. We don't have

:44:51.:44:54.

enough Social Security in Poland. We are looking for a better life.

:44:55.:44:58.

Depending where we are giving from experience, we may stay. Are we

:44:59.:45:03.

coming back to Poland, which is not good, the level of life is better,

:45:04.:45:10.

but still not enough to stay there. Talk about a seven year emergency

:45:11.:45:18.

brake on freedom of movement, as part of a trade deal with the free

:45:19.:45:24.

market, what do you think of that? No, I would be uncomfortable with

:45:25.:45:28.

that. A lot of other Conservative Parliamentary colleagues would be

:45:29.:45:31.

uncomfortable with anything which radically falls short of our ability

:45:32.:45:38.

to take back control of our borders. As I said, immigration was the

:45:39.:45:42.

number one issue at the last general election, quite extraordinary that

:45:43.:45:48.

rather than the economy which has been the number one issue,

:45:49.:45:51.

immigration was the number one issue at the last general election. People

:45:52.:45:56.

expect us to take back control of our borders. The vast majority of

:45:57.:46:00.

people in the United Kingdom unwelcoming, very tolerant to

:46:01.:46:06.

foreigners. They understand the economic benefits to our country of

:46:07.:46:09.

allowing people with skills to come and work. They do expect very keenly

:46:10.:46:17.

that the government has the ability to control the numbers coming in.

:46:18.:46:23.

Last year we had net migration of 350,000 into the country. Completely

:46:24.:46:30.

unsustainable. To answer the other lady's point, Poland is grabbing at

:46:31.:46:35.

a phenomenal pace. Its economy is growing at a faster rate than most

:46:36.:46:38.

other countries in the European Union. Standards of living are going

:46:39.:46:43.

up in Poland. Poland will ultimately reach the stain standard as we have

:46:44.:46:51.

in the United Kingdom. -- the same standard. It is vital that Theresa

:46:52.:46:55.

May explains to the Polish government that if we are going to

:46:56.:46:58.

help Poland with various issues she has going forward, one of which is

:46:59.:47:05.

security. They want a permanent Nato base east of Warsaw, if they want

:47:06.:47:08.

that support on fundamentally important things they feel keenly

:47:09.:47:12.

on, they must start to understand and respect some of the problems we

:47:13.:47:17.

have in the United Kingdom with migration, and try to work with us,

:47:18.:47:21.

so we can resolve them, in the interests of our own citizens.

:47:22.:47:27.

And is there an understanding of the sort of arguments that Daniel is

:47:28.:47:35.

talking about in Poland? Yes of course, there is. The point is that

:47:36.:47:40.

most immigration we see from Poland to the UK is from very small towns.

:47:41.:47:45.

It is from more or less the countryside where there is really

:47:46.:47:48.

structural unemployment. The point is, if it was that easy to take

:47:49.:47:54.

those people back and put them into work, the problem is, there is no

:47:55.:47:59.

work, that is why they left. That problem hasn't been solved. But the

:48:00.:48:06.

Polish economy is growing. Isn't it better to build a stronger economy

:48:07.:48:10.

with their workforce? Of course, but it will not happen tomorrow or the

:48:11.:48:14.

day after tomorrow. This will take years. We have structural problems

:48:15.:48:18.

in Poland which need to be solved but the government has only just

:48:19.:48:24.

started working on it. During that time there is no employment in these

:48:25.:48:28.

regions where these people left for the UK. Of course, the Polish

:48:29.:48:33.

government sees the arguments of the UK, and the British government sees

:48:34.:48:37.

and understands the problems they have with migration, but I think a

:48:38.:48:42.

compromise will have to be worked out. I then think all the posts will

:48:43.:48:46.

be back immediately, and there will be a time for maybe a couple of

:48:47.:48:50.

years that they will stay in the UK, and some kind of compromise will

:48:51.:48:55.

have to be worked out. How quickly do you want deals to be sewn up? We

:48:56.:49:07.

are thinking that article 50 may be invoked after Christmas, when

:49:08.:49:09.

Article 50 is invoked we have a period up to two years for

:49:10.:49:12.

renegotiation. I had a debate in the House of Commons just the other

:49:13.:49:17.

week, about the contribution of polls in the UK, because I wanted to

:49:18.:49:24.

explain to fellow parliamentarians and the extraordinary contribution

:49:25.:49:27.

that Polish people have made to this country, not just in the recent

:49:28.:49:31.

years, but most importantly during the Battle of Britain when the

:49:32.:49:36.

Polish 303 Squadron was the most accessible Squadron in the Battle of

:49:37.:49:40.

Britain. Polish people have made a huge contribution and their

:49:41.:49:43.

reputation in this country is second to none. Most of the people I have

:49:44.:49:49.

spoken to know Polish migrants to be hard-working, paying their taxes,

:49:50.:49:53.

contributing to society, so they are the ideal type of migrants, and we

:49:54.:49:57.

are very appreciative of their contribution. But the Polish economy

:49:58.:50:02.

has grown by 500% since the fall of communism. It is continuing to grow

:50:03.:50:06.

and I very much hope the Polish government will start to ensure

:50:07.:50:17.

there are more jobs available for Polish workers, because the numbers

:50:18.:50:20.

that have been coming over I just unsustainable, and yes, we must

:50:21.:50:22.

protect the rights of the people who are here already, yes, first and

:50:23.:50:25.

foremost we must protect the rights of British people in the European

:50:26.:50:29.

Union, but the Polish government has the government around the European

:50:30.:50:33.

Union and must now understand that we want to trade with them, we want

:50:34.:50:38.

to cooperate with them in terms of security, but there is free movement

:50:39.:50:44.

of -- this free movement of people concept coming to the United Kingdom

:50:45.:50:48.

is gone. We gave them a chance repeatedly in the negotiations. Mr

:50:49.:50:52.

Cameron went over and over again to Warsaw, to explain how difficult it

:50:53.:50:59.

was to deal with these numbers. They chose to ignore our concerns. That

:51:00.:51:03.

is why we are pulling out of the European Union, and that is why this

:51:04.:51:08.

concept of completely controlled migration to this country, those

:51:09.:51:12.

days are gone. Daniel, Kate and Ola, thank you. Coming up...

:51:13.:51:16.

Are prisons able to cope with older inmates?

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A watchdog says many age-related conditions like dementia

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The crackdown in Turkey following the failed coup is continuing with

:51:20.:51:32.

the dismissal or a rest of thousands of people from all walks of life.

:51:33.:51:37.

The military, the media and education officials, more than 100

:51:38.:51:41.

media outlets were ordered to close yesterday. Dozens of journalists

:51:42.:51:43.

have been arrested in recent days. Yesterday we spoke to Yavuz Baydar,

:51:44.:51:46.

who has 40 years' experience as a journalist and was the founding

:51:47.:51:49.

member of Platform for That was before this latest

:51:50.:51:51.

round of closures - We are not revealing his location

:51:52.:51:55.

due to concerns for his safety. Thank you very much for joining us

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again. Since we spoke, there has been more of a crackdown, what is

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your reaction to it? The most recent news piece is younger, investigative

:52:11.:52:21.

reporter, was caught by police and this is a reporter awarded the

:52:22.:52:29.

runner-up in the EU investigative reporting award this year. That is

:52:30.:52:37.

the latest peace. And then the decree last night, the massive

:52:38.:52:44.

closure of as you said, more than 100 news outlets, about 45

:52:45.:52:51.

newspapers, 16 TV stations and radio stations and three news agencies.

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This is a large bulk of whatever remains in a semi-independent

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segment of the media. That is continuing and increasing a growing

:53:06.:53:10.

clamp-down of media segments in Turkey. What is left in terms of

:53:11.:53:16.

freedom of speech in Turkey? Our investigations are monitoring

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reports... INAUDIBLE

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Now we have a few tiny news sites, sort of left-leaning or centre

:53:36.:53:39.

independent but struggling financially, four or five

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newspapers, one with editors sentenced to five years in prison

:53:47.:53:51.

at, another one the editor in chief is in prison and has threats over

:53:52.:53:59.

his life. There are three or four newspapers, mainly left and one

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Kurdish newspaper and no TV channel at all at the moment which can

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report independently and freely at the moment in Turkey. You mentioned

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some news sites, is the Internet still freely accessible? That is not

:54:15.:54:21.

freely accessible. The emergency rule regulations, the law about

:54:22.:54:28.

emergency rule approved without the concerns of the Internet, because it

:54:29.:54:34.

is rather old, so it falls out of the jurisdiction of emergency rule,

:54:35.:54:38.

that is why we did not see any lists of news sites in this one last

:54:39.:54:45.

night, but a disk all upon the jurisdiction of the so-called peace

:54:46.:54:50.

Courts, also strictly controlled by the Justice ministry at the moment.

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It is the Internet, the bounds of new sites will continue to be

:54:59.:55:06.

decided by the courts and judges. Lots of people have been arrested

:55:07.:55:10.

and there have been concerns voiced by Amnesty International as well as

:55:11.:55:14.

other organisations about what is happening to them in custody, how

:55:15.:55:18.

easy is it to monitor what is going on and what sort of access to those

:55:19.:55:23.

who are arrested have to any legal representation?

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There are -- due to the severely restricted conditions of the media,

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we have severe difficulties to understand the breadth of the

:55:45.:55:50.

round-up. Also, human rights organisations like you and rights

:55:51.:55:53.

watch and Anstey International are also having difficulties for access

:55:54.:56:00.

-- Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International. The less free the

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media is, the more curved the media is, the more it more difficulties we

:56:09.:56:16.

will have two establish the facts. What is your view of where things

:56:17.:56:22.

are going to go in Turkey? The pattern leaves very little doubt

:56:23.:56:28.

about whether or not democratic position in Parmenter, the main

:56:29.:56:34.

opposition and the second opposition and perhaps more importantly the

:56:35.:56:41.

third-largest party in parliament, whether they will be establishing or

:56:42.:56:47.

forming enough of a strong enough by now Mick for returning to

:56:48.:56:52.

normalisation process. As one critical columnist pointed out this

:56:53.:56:57.

morning, he said, ironically, Erdogan is ready to listen to the

:56:58.:57:02.

opposition and to agree with the opposition, as far as the opposition

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does not object to whatever he wants. The pattern is by the decrees

:57:06.:57:14.

which means authoritarian and arbitrary rule. Turkey is drifting

:57:15.:57:17.

more and more towards an authoritarian rule, because now,

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given the... 145 generals were dismissed last night

:57:25.:57:39.

by a decree, which means half of the total generals in the Turkish army.

:57:40.:57:44.

The Armed Forces are also at its weakest point, state institutions

:57:45.:57:51.

are mainly controlled by President Erdogan and the government, which

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means everything is now to be described in terms of arbitrariness.

:57:56.:58:03.

Unfortunately, the opposition is weak, scattered and NGOs are also

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under the threat of the strict regulations by the emergency rule.

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The judges were given immense jurisdiction for closing, seizures,

:58:21.:58:27.

appropriation of the properties, so it is a very precarious situation.

:58:28.:58:32.

It is a very delicate stage of things at the moment. Yavuz Baydar,

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thank you for joining us, a journalist with 40 years experience.

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Sorry about the problems with the line there but I think we could hear

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most of what he was saying. In the wake of the attacks in France

:58:44.:58:46.

- some French media say they will no longer publish the names and photos

:58:47.:58:50.

of terrorists - Now, let's catch up with the latest

:58:51.:58:58.

weather update. Carol is looking very sunny.

:58:59.:59:05.

Thank you. The rain is moving from the west to the east, but we do have

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a beautiful picture sent in from one of our BBC Weather Watchers of

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Swanage in Dorset where it is sunny. You can see already the cloud is

:59:21.:59:25.

romping from the west to east. The whitest cloud is where we do have

:59:26.:59:29.

some rain at the moment. That rain is heaviest anywhere from the

:59:30.:59:33.

Midlands northwards and lighter from the Midlands southwards. The whole

:59:34.:59:37.

lot is driving over towards the North Sea. The hind it, some

:59:38.:59:42.

brighter skies, some sunshine and also the risk this afternoon of some

:59:43.:59:46.

thunderstorms, particularly so across the Midlands. As we drift

:59:47.:59:49.

westwards, you can see we are expecting some spells. The showers

:59:50.:59:55.

will be hit and miss. At times there will be more cloud around. Across

:59:56.:00:03.

the Midlands we have rain extending across Scotland and into Northern

:00:04.:00:07.

Ireland. North of that, a lot of dry and bright weather in Scotland apart

:00:08.:00:11.

from the north and Western Isles and the North Mainland where we will see

:00:12.:00:16.

some showers. The showers this evening and overnight will slowly

:00:17.:00:20.

started to descend southwards. The rain across Northern Ireland and

:00:21.:00:24.

Scotland is doing the same thing, pushing into Wales and the

:00:25.:00:27.

south-west. Just ahead of it, you could catch one or two showers.

:00:28.:00:37.

Tomorrow, here is our weather front bearing that rain. Showery outbreaks

:00:38.:00:45.

pushing down to the south. Behind it, there will be sunny spells or

:00:46.:00:49.

bright spells. Quite a lot of showers across the north and west of

:00:50.:00:54.

Scotland. Temperatures 13 to 22 in the south-east. Then for the

:00:55.:01:00.

weekend, this weather front continues to drift down towards the

:01:01.:01:05.

south-east, and tends to fizzle. For Friday, and into the weekend, we

:01:06.:01:10.

lose the warmth behind that weather front and cool air streams in as a

:01:11.:01:17.

north-westerly dominates the weather but it will only be a breeze so it

:01:18.:01:20.

will feel cooler rather than cold, but it will feel a lot colder by

:01:21.:01:23.

night and paired with what we have been used to in many parts.

:01:24.:01:27.

Saturday, a mixture of bright spells and showers but the emphasis is on

:01:28.:01:34.

more dry weather than wet. Feeling warm in the south-east. Then a quick

:01:35.:01:40.

look at Sunday. Bright spells, sunny spells or showers, but the emphasis

:01:41.:01:45.

is on the dry weather, rather than the wet. If you are camping at any

:01:46.:01:50.

of the festivals it will feel cool by night.

:01:51.:01:57.

I'm Joanna Gosling, welcome to the programme

:01:58.:01:58.

if you've just joined us, coming up before 11.

:01:59.:02:00.

Lloyds has announced it's cutting a further 3,000 jobs and closing 200

:02:01.:02:05.

more branches by the end of next year.

:02:06.:02:08.

The bank is part state-owned and is warning that uncertainty

:02:09.:02:10.

surrounding the Brexit vote could affect its profits in future.

:02:11.:02:13.

It's already in the middle of cutting 9,000 posts.

:02:14.:02:15.

The bank reported a ?2.5 billion pre-tax profit for the half

:02:16.:02:18.

The first new nuclear power plant in the UK for decades is expected to be

:02:19.:02:37.

given the go-ahead to. The French company EDF will be financing most

:02:38.:02:41.

of the project and is holding a board meeting in Paris where it is

:02:42.:02:43.

expected to approve the investment. A daughter has told this programme

:02:44.:02:47.

how her dad died after doctors wrongly decided that his life

:02:48.:02:50.

could not be saved after he was put on the notorious and now discredited

:02:51.:02:53.

end of life care plan called It looked like was battling for

:02:54.:03:14.

life, not ready to let go. To intervene when it looked like his

:03:15.:03:15.

organs were failing. France is banning terrorist

:03:16.:03:27.

photographs in the media, saying it gives them the publicity that they

:03:28.:03:29.

crave. Lloyds has announced it's cutting

:03:30.:03:36.

a further 3,000 jobs and closing 200 more branches by the end

:03:37.:03:39.

of next year. The bank is part state-owned

:03:40.:03:41.

and is warning that uncertainty surrounding the Brexit vote

:03:42.:03:43.

could affect its profits in future. It's already in the middle

:03:44.:03:46.

of cutting 9,000 posts. The bank reported a ?2.5 billion

:03:47.:03:48.

pre-tax profit for the half The first new nuclear power plant

:03:49.:03:51.

in the UK for decades is expected The French company EDF

:03:52.:03:55.

will be financing most French police have formally

:03:56.:04:04.

identified the second of the two attackers who killed an elderly

:04:05.:04:06.

priest in Rouen on Tuesday. He's Abdelmalik Petitjean,

:04:07.:04:09.

who was 19 and from eastern France. His identity card had been found

:04:10.:04:11.

in the house of the other attacker, earlier identified as Adel Kermiche

:04:12.:04:14.

and DNA tests confirmed it was him. He was shot dead by police

:04:15.:04:17.

as he tried to flee the scene Campaigners have won Italians at the

:04:18.:04:34.

Supreme Court against the Scottish Government's proposes to appoint a

:04:35.:04:37.

named person for every child. A point of contact such as headteacher

:04:38.:04:42.

would be assigned to look after children under 18. Campaigners say

:04:43.:04:46.

it breaches the human rights of parents.

:04:47.:04:47.

Barack Obama has urged Democrats to unite behind Hillary Clinton

:04:48.:04:50.

as the most qualified person ever to run for the White House.

:04:51.:04:53.

Closing the third day of the Democratic National Convention,

:04:54.:04:55.

the outgoing President praised Mrs Clinton as someone

:04:56.:04:57.

A daughter has told this programme how her dad died after doctors

:04:58.:05:08.

wrongly decided that his life could not be saved after he was put

:05:09.:05:12.

on the notorious and now discredited end of life care plan called

:05:13.:05:14.

Josef Boberek was admitted to Hammersmith hospital

:05:15.:05:17.

with a chest infection, but a wrong decision meant fluids

:05:18.:05:19.

Jayne Boberek who fought for three years to get the truth said

:05:20.:05:23.

she still has concerns about hospital procedures.

:05:24.:05:29.

I think the new guidelines are deeply worrying and repeat

:05:30.:05:32.

The constant repetition in the new guidelines

:05:33.:05:38.

about diagnosing the dying patient as if they can be diagnosed.

:05:39.:05:40.

There is an inference that you can diagnose somebody as dying

:05:41.:05:43.

and you cannot there is no clinical evidence that you can do that.

:05:44.:05:46.

And once you make that assumption and start removing treatment,

:05:47.:05:48.

Britain's first new nuclear power plant for decades is expected

:05:49.:06:07.

The board of the French energy firm EDF will make its final decision

:06:08.:06:11.

Hinkley Point in Somerset will take a decade to build and will supply

:06:12.:06:16.

7%of the UK's electricity over its lifetime of 60 years.

:06:17.:06:18.

But the project remains controversial - critics say the UK

:06:19.:06:21.

has guaranteed too high a price for its power

:06:22.:06:23.

Russia says it is working with the Syrian army to open humanitarian

:06:24.:06:42.

corridors to allow evil to leave the besieged city of Aleppo. It is also

:06:43.:06:47.

said Syrian fighters will be allowed to leave. They comes after all

:06:48.:06:51.

supply lines to the east of Aleppo had been cut. Charities are warning

:06:52.:06:56.

of a deepening humanitarian crisis in the city. A lot of you getting in

:06:57.:07:09.

touch with our -- after our interview about the man put on the

:07:10.:07:16.

Liverpool care pathway plan. Seeing in hearing how a lovely elderly

:07:17.:07:21.

gentleman was made to suffer the LCP method for his last days and hours,

:07:22.:07:24.

my mother was killed in the same way. I had the same experience, my

:07:25.:07:39.

mother spent a last days after the lot of a Liverpool care pathway, if

:07:40.:07:53.

I add with this book. And if that each thing is its this is an healthy

:07:54.:08:01.

he effect you can even those let's catch up with the sport. So

:08:02.:08:31.

much to look forward to. The Great Britain team arriving in Brazil

:08:32.:08:35.

ahead of the games. Their training camp is in Belo Horizonte, 273 miles

:08:36.:08:41.

from Rio, where the games open next Friday. British officials believe

:08:42.:08:46.

their facilities are the best in the country. Not the individual national

:08:47.:08:51.

bodies, we are going as Team GB, trying to unite the team, bringing

:08:52.:08:56.

together to take on the world in the greatest challenge of their lives.

:08:57.:09:00.

Russian athletes who have not been banned are arriving in Rio. Much

:09:01.:09:06.

criticism of the IOC, and deposition not to ban the entire Russian team

:09:07.:09:10.

after a state-sponsored doping programme was uncovered. IOC

:09:11.:09:17.

president Thomas Bach has been justifying his decision. It is

:09:18.:09:23.

appreciated, on the one hand, we are sanctioning the system, but on the

:09:24.:09:27.

other hand, we give athletes who are not part of the system the

:09:28.:09:37.

opportunity to demonstrate this. Some of today's football stories.

:09:38.:09:44.

Brendan Rodgers called Celtic's 1-1 draw in their Champions League

:09:45.:09:47.

qualifier in Kazakhstan outstanding. They went behind early on, but their

:09:48.:09:51.

hopes of qualifying for the group stages for the first time since 2013

:09:52.:09:57.

was lifted by Leigh Griffiths' late equaliser. The next leg is next week

:09:58.:10:02.

in Glasgow. High-profile pre-season friendlies continue all over the

:10:03.:10:06.

world. Chelsea beat Liverpool, Gary Cahill scoring the only goal of the

:10:07.:10:11.

game in front of 50,000 people at the Rose Bowl in California. Cesc

:10:12.:10:17.

Fabregas sent off in the second half for this challenge. Transfer news,

:10:18.:10:23.

Manchester City are thought to be close to agreeing a fee with Everton

:10:24.:10:28.

for their defender John Stones. Everton likely to ?150 million for

:10:29.:10:34.

the 22-year-old, part of England's squad at Euro 2016. He came close to

:10:35.:10:39.

joining Chelsea last summer. Johanna Konta through to the third round of

:10:40.:10:47.

the Rogers cup in Montreal. She won her first tour title last weekend.

:10:48.:10:53.

She beat the American qualifier in straight sets. She will play another

:10:54.:10:58.

American in the next round. After the tournament she will head to Rio

:10:59.:11:02.

for the Olympics. One person who will not be there is golf's world

:11:03.:11:07.

number four, Rory McIlroy. With the USPGA championship darting later in

:11:08.:11:12.

New Jersey, the former world number one is hoping for a return to form,

:11:13.:11:18.

after winning four major titles between 2012 and 2014, he has failed

:11:19.:11:24.

to win one since, but he doesn't believe he's far-away. 2012, three

:11:25.:11:29.

to 2014, I averaged one major a year. No reason why I cannot do that

:11:30.:11:35.

for the foreseeable future. That is my benchmark, I feel like I can

:11:36.:11:41.

attain that, and play my best golf. Sometimes it is hard to come up with

:11:42.:11:44.

your best golf each and every week, but I feel it is attainable. The

:11:45.:11:49.

women's British Open is under way at Woburn. Live coverage from one

:11:50.:11:52.

o'clock this afternoon. Prisons are ill-prepared to deal

:11:53.:11:57.

with our ageing population, that's according to the Prisons

:11:58.:11:59.

and Probation Ombudsman who says age-related conditions like dementia

:12:00.:12:01.

are being overlooked, with prison staff unable to properly

:12:02.:12:03.

assess or care for older prisoners. The Ombudsman singled out

:12:04.:12:06.

the example of a 77-year-old inmate who remained handcuffed

:12:07.:12:08.

while in hospital with pneumonia. His condition deteriorated and yet

:12:09.:12:10.

he remain handcuffed For more on this story I'm joined

:12:11.:12:12.

by Peter Dawson, the Deputy Director of the Prison Reform Trust,

:12:13.:12:26.

Mary Piper - a trustee at the Restore Support Network

:12:27.:12:28.

which works with older offenders - Ian Weatherhead, Senior

:12:29.:12:31.

Admiral Nurse with Dementia UK, and Eric Allison,

:12:32.:12:32.

the Guardian's Prison Correspondent Peter, you are soon to be director

:12:33.:12:54.

of the Prison Reform Trust. Give us your reaction, to this report? It is

:12:55.:13:01.

a worrying case. Terribly predictable. We publish a report in

:13:02.:13:05.

2003 saying this issue was coming because of the number of people

:13:06.:13:09.

serving longer sentences, older people sentenced for the first time.

:13:10.:13:14.

It is the fastest-growing section of the prison population. You've

:13:15.:13:20.

flagged it in 2003, what is being done to tackle the needs? In some

:13:21.:13:26.

places, really good work. As is so often in prisons, the good work does

:13:27.:13:31.

not occur everywhere. During that period, the resources available to

:13:32.:13:35.

prisons to deal with these complex issues, just as complex as the

:13:36.:13:40.

community, in some ways, more so. Those resources have been cut

:13:41.:13:45.

erratically by 30% in public prisons in the last three years. The most

:13:46.:13:49.

precious commodity, time, time to get to know people, to understand

:13:50.:13:54.

issues, to understand where people's condition may be changing. That is

:13:55.:14:01.

the commodity we have lost. Your organisation represents older

:14:02.:14:03.

prisoners, is this something you have been concerned about? Like the

:14:04.:14:06.

one picked out by the ombudsman today? Yes I'm a trustee of Restore,

:14:07.:14:16.

a user led organisation for older prisoners. This is a matter of

:14:17.:14:23.

concern. I am also a medical practitioner, so I would like to put

:14:24.:14:27.

it into context. Prisons are not islands, they are part of the

:14:28.:14:31.

community. People who come into prison come from the community.

:14:32.:14:39.

Prisons, since 2006, all people in prison are NHS patients. Since the

:14:40.:14:45.

1st of April, 2015, local authorities have a responsibility to

:14:46.:14:50.

meet the social care needs of people in prison. Of course this is a

:14:51.:14:57.

worrying report. A deeply distressing event. Prisons are not

:14:58.:15:06.

there on their own, coping with this. This is a partnership, for the

:15:07.:15:11.

NHS, and for local authorities to assist. In practice, what are you

:15:12.:15:16.

seeing, are they working well together?

:15:17.:15:22.

I think as Peter says, it is patchy. We have only had one year of local

:15:23.:15:30.

authorities being responsible for social care. There was research by

:15:31.:15:36.

the Association of directors of social services, which showed that

:15:37.:15:41.

some prisons are faring people and they are being assessed, but a very

:15:42.:15:48.

large percentage, still that relationship has to be embedded.

:15:49.:15:53.

Ian, you are to mention nurse, anyone who has had or had as a

:15:54.:15:59.

relative with dementia, knows the difficulties of looking after

:16:00.:16:05.

somebody with dementia. Do you think prison is a place for somebody with

:16:06.:16:08.

dementia? That is obviously a very difficult question and will depend

:16:09.:16:13.

on individual to individual. I think if people are developing dementia

:16:14.:16:16.

within an institution, within a prison setting, one has to look at

:16:17.:16:23.

that individual as the disease progresses. Prison environments

:16:24.:16:32.

would cause problems for somebody with dementia. The problem in a

:16:33.:16:37.

prison is it can be harder to identify compared with a community

:16:38.:16:44.

setting. Why's that? Because of the structure and the routine. And

:16:45.:16:50.

because they are not with people who know them well? And we all function

:16:51.:16:56.

better within our own homes. Are you seeing something which could look

:16:57.:17:00.

like dementia in prison might not be dementia or that prison could bring

:17:01.:17:05.

an dementia? It may not bring an dementia but it may not be noticed

:17:06.:17:09.

because of the routine that people go through on a day-to-day basis. It

:17:10.:17:16.

is only when different aspects of the illness, different behaviours,

:17:17.:17:22.

and different idiosyncrasies that somebody may come out with, more

:17:23.:17:26.

confused, more forgetfulness, inappropriate behaviour, that is

:17:27.:17:29.

when Sandie may start flagging up there is an issue but it may go

:17:30.:17:34.

unnoticed for quite a long time. We are also joined by Eric Allison, the

:17:35.:17:40.

Guardian's prison correspondent. You spent many years in prison and I

:17:41.:17:44.

know you have contact with older prisoners. Is this something you

:17:45.:17:50.

have been looking at? Yes, and sadly, the case of this 77-year-old

:17:51.:17:56.

man is not unusual. Elderly and infirm prisoners who cannot possibly

:17:57.:18:00.

present a danger routinely handcuffed when they go to prison. I

:18:01.:18:05.

have come across cases where people have died in handcuffs. Peter, is

:18:06.:18:12.

prison a place for somebody with dementia? Should someone with

:18:13.:18:17.

dementia be handcuffed? Two different issues. People get a

:18:18.:18:21.

sentence from the court. If people are dying, it is possible for people

:18:22.:18:25.

to be released on compassionate grounds. Governors also have the

:18:26.:18:29.

power to release people temporarily, and one of the things that the

:18:30.:18:33.

ombudsman says is that power is not used enough. The handcuffing issue,

:18:34.:18:38.

it is very reminiscent of debates we had years ago about women who were

:18:39.:18:42.

pregnant and were being handcuffed. There were a series of cases which

:18:43.:18:45.

came to light where people said, what on earth are we doing? I think

:18:46.:18:50.

we should have a sense of deja vu that this should be a wake-up call.

:18:51.:18:58.

Again, it is down to time. One of the things prison managers are

:18:59.:19:01.

expected to do is go to a hospital where someone is being cared for and

:19:02.:19:04.

check if the level of security is appropriate. I cannot believe if a

:19:05.:19:08.

manager had had time to go out, they would have said this person needs to

:19:09.:19:12.

be chained up when clearly, they are not only near the end of their life

:19:13.:19:20.

but also not in a position to escape. When you say about letting

:19:21.:19:23.

some doubt on a temporary basis, is that for an assessment? It can be to

:19:24.:19:28.

work, to volunteer, to live. It could be the most compassionate

:19:29.:19:32.

thing to do for somebody who's not coping well in prison and is near

:19:33.:19:35.

the end of their life. It is difficult. Some of these people are

:19:36.:19:39.

serving very long sentences for very serious crimes so there is a

:19:40.:19:47.

judgment in every case. Could almost see a loophole opening up but if

:19:48.:19:50.

dementia becomes a ticket out of jail, someone could put on the

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symptoms? I do not think that is a real risk. Do you think that is a

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risk? I suspect not. I think with the appropriate services and a

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psychiatrist with the right expertise going support the prison

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staff I think that is a greater reduced risk of that happening.

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Mary? I agree. I would like to go back to what you were talking about

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before, about dementia and other conditions, and in research

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undertaken many years ago, looking at older people in prison, their

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mental health, actually 30% of the men in that sample had a depressive

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illness, and only a small percentage dementia. I think that from our

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perspective, we would want the right services to be available to people

:20:48.:20:52.

in prison. For older prisoners, just like older people in the community,

:20:53.:20:57.

to have access to appropriate services with an accurate diagnosis.

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Old-age medicine is complex. We had GPs in prison but the older

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prisoners should be referred to the specialist services in just the same

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way as they would be if they were living in their own home. And Peter,

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as you have said, all of that stuff is expensive. Do you see any signs

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of this being an issue that will be invested in? The huge dilemma for

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the prison service is the work does not match the resources at the

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moment. You can either increase the resources or you can reduce the

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work, and if we sent people to prison for shorter sentences, and

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not so many people, then we would have less work to do and the people

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who really needed to be there could get the care they are entitled to.

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Thank you for joining us. We unfortunately lost our

:21:56.:21:58.

communications with Eric after we heard a brief word from him. In a

:21:59.:22:03.

statement the Ministry of Justice said the

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Could your office job be bad for your health?

:22:19.:22:25.

According to scientists you should do one hour of physical activity

:22:26.:22:28.

a day to combat the negative effects a desk job could have

:22:29.:22:31.

The new nuclear plant to be built at Hinkley Point in Somerset,

:22:32.:22:39.

is set to get it's final approval later today.

:22:40.:22:41.

The French firm EDF - which will finance most

:22:42.:22:45.

of the 18 billion pound project - is holding a board meeting

:22:46.:22:48.

at which it is expected to approve the investment.

:22:49.:22:53.

Following that agreement, legally-binding contracts will be

:22:54.:22:56.

signed and construction work can begin on what will be the UK's first

:22:57.:22:59.

new nuclear power plant in more than 20 years.

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I'm joined by Dr Jenifer Baxter, Head of Energy and Environment

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at the Institute of mechanical Engineers and Molly Scott Cato

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who is a Green MEP for South West England.

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Jennifer, what is your response to this? Broadly speaking, I think it

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is important for the nuclear skills in the UK, it brings high value

:23:30.:23:36.

opportunities for people living in the south-west. And if I can come to

:23:37.:23:42.

you all so, Molly, what is your reaction? I'm very concerned that in

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order to persuade EDF and the Chinese companies, we have had to

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offer them a huge price for the electricity and an enormous subsidy

:23:51.:23:53.

so it will be three times the market price and we are tied into that deal

:23:54.:23:58.

for 35 years so it will make it more expensive for us to pay our

:23:59.:24:02.

electricity bills, and will also put pressure on companies who will have

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to pay high prices and cannot compete with foreign investors.

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There was talk about this not going ahead because of Brexit. It is

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clearly seen as a viable proposition? I think Brexit will not

:24:20.:24:23.

make a significant difference. We are very close to France and we will

:24:24.:24:29.

continue to work very closely with them as engineers. And in terms of

:24:30.:24:33.

the costs of the energy that will be produced for consumers, we were

:24:34.:24:37.

hearing there from Molly concerns about that. What is your view on

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that? The cost of electricity depends on a number of factors. It

:24:44.:24:49.

is not just what a facility is producing but also other types of

:24:50.:24:52.

electricity coming onto the grid. Over the next ten years it is very

:24:53.:25:00.

likely we will see a lot of investment and the renewable sector.

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It may be that it does not end up being more expensive, but there is

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no denying that any large infrastructure project like this

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will cost a significant amount of money. Is there a sustainable energy

:25:13.:25:17.

policy without nuclear in this country? At the moment we are in a

:25:18.:25:21.

position of transition. This transition has come about because of

:25:22.:25:25.

some of the consequences of success, and that is pushing large amounts of

:25:26.:25:29.

renewables onto the grid. At the moment, we cannot quite manage how

:25:30.:25:43.

they are distributed and at what times of day. We have a very limited

:25:44.:25:47.

storage window and we are looking at new innovation around demand site

:25:48.:25:49.

management. We could get to a point where we will be completely

:25:50.:25:51.

sustained by renewable resources? There will always need to be a base

:25:52.:25:55.

level and it goes up and down at different times of the day. What we

:25:56.:25:58.

need to be sure is we don't not have that electricity that all of our

:25:59.:26:00.

hospitals and critical services are well taken care of. In the future,

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looking ten or 15 years away, there will be a lot of changes. We will

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learn how to manage the renewables on the grid so very large projects

:26:09.:26:19.

like Hinckley, we may not need so many in the future. Molly Scott

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Cato, when you hear that argument, how would you respond to that? We

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could not do it at the moment without a nuclear plant? I agree we

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are seeing huge changes and innovations in the renewable market

:26:32.:26:34.

and energy generally, which is why it is a bad idea to tie ourselves

:26:35.:26:42.

into this high energy price over 35 years. I am concerned because I

:26:43.:26:45.

represent the south-west and this is an important investment for

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Somerset, but actually, it will only create 900 permanent jobs and

:26:50.:26:52.

renewables, if we really put our money into them we could create over

:26:53.:26:59.

120,000 jobs just in the south-west. In terms of making sure the lights

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stay on and everything else in the meantime, is there really any other

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answer other than this? Hinkley is making it likely we will have an

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energy gap because it is an untested technology and it will be ten years

:27:14.:27:17.

before we get any energy from Hinkley and the two other places

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where they have tried to build this reactor have failed and they are

:27:21.:27:24.

years behind schedule. It will be a good idea to put our future in the

:27:25.:27:32.

renewables basket. But it is not there now? It absolutely is there

:27:33.:27:36.

now. Renewable technology is working. We are making it important

:27:37.:27:41.

advances in terms of storage. The boss of the National Grid himself

:27:42.:27:45.

has said the baseload concept is an obsolete concept now and we need to

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have more diversify technology and focus on matching supply and demand.

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Jenifer, Molly says renewable mix our resources less reliable? We are

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in a transition point. At times we have too much electricity and we are

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paying through consumers at these for companies to turn up and use

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that electricity. We are not in a place and there is not likely to be

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at any time soon that we will have storage which will last longer than

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three or four hours. We do need to have some form of baseload. It can

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come from nuclear or fossil fuels. We should have some form of carbon

:28:29.:28:31.

capture and storage to reduce the amount of carbon dioxide going into

:28:32.:28:33.

the atmosphere, and nuclear does very well there. It is very low

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emissions. Doctor Jenifer Baxter and Molly Scott Cato, thank you both

:28:43.:28:51.

very much. Judges at the High Court of Scotland

:28:52.:28:56.

have ruled against the controversial named Person scheme. Judges say some

:28:57.:29:02.

proposals breach rights to privacy and family life. Our correspondent

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Stephen God and is in Edinburgh. Tell us what the thinking was behind

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this policy? I think it has been a controversial policy ever since it

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was introduced a couple of years ago, voted through unanimously but

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since then the controversy has snowballed culminating in today's

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decision. I think it is useful to look at the background to this, what

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exactly is the named person scheme? You touched on it in your

:29:30.:29:32.

introduction. It would mean every child from zero to 18 in Scotland

:29:33.:29:38.

would have a state appointed named person. That would be a teacher or

:29:39.:29:42.

health visitor who would offer additional support to a family, if

:29:43.:29:47.

it was felt it was needed. The Scottish Government say it would

:29:48.:29:51.

provide a vital safety net across communities to ensure that children

:29:52.:29:57.

don't slip through that net. But opponents of its day it is an

:29:58.:30:01.

unjustifiable intrusion into family life. The opponents took their

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concerns, first of all to the Court of Session here in Edinburgh who

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dismissed their concerns and said they were guilty of hyperbole. Then

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they took it to the Supreme Court of the UK. The Supreme Court ruling was

:30:18.:30:21.

today. The judges had two days of evidence in March and since then,

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the five judges have spent time considering what they heard over

:30:26.:30:29.

those two days, and they have given us their judgment. In some ways, it

:30:30.:30:34.

is a double-edged sword. They have ruled it cannot go ahead in its

:30:35.:30:41.

current form. They say the aim of act is benign but the problem they

:30:42.:30:45.

have with it is the way particularly the Scottish Government are

:30:46.:30:48.

proposing to share information. They say it is unlawful and does not

:30:49.:30:54.

comply with European Convention on human rights. Those defective

:30:55.:30:59.

provisions they say mean it cannot be brought into force. What is key

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now is the timetable. It was due to come into effect on the 31st of

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August, so the end of next month. That cannot now happen. The Scottish

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Government have been given 42 days to come up with a timetable which

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would mean making the changes which mean the legislation could comply

:31:19.:31:23.

with the Supreme Court findings. The Deputy First Minister John Swinney

:31:24.:31:26.

says they are absolutely committed to the policy. Thank you. Still to

:31:27.:31:29.

come... In the wake of the attacks in France

:31:30.:31:31.

- some French media say they will no longer publish the names and photos

:31:32.:31:34.

of terrorists - we want And could your office job be

:31:35.:31:37.

bad for your health? Scientists say you should do one

:31:38.:31:40.

hour of exercise every day to combat the negative effects that sitting

:31:41.:31:44.

all day at work could have Let's catch up on the news with

:31:45.:31:46.

Anita. Lloyds has announced it's cutting

:31:47.:32:09.

a further 3,000 jobs and closing 200 more branches by the end

:32:10.:32:12.

of next year. The bank is part state-owned

:32:13.:32:14.

and is warning that uncertainty surrounding the Brexit vote

:32:15.:32:17.

could affect its profits in future. It's already in the middle

:32:18.:32:19.

of cutting 9,000 posts. The bank reported a ?2.5 billion

:32:20.:32:21.

pre-tax profit for the half Campaigners have won in the High

:32:22.:32:42.

Court against the Scottish Cabinet but that as the name of a garden for

:32:43.:32:46.

each and every child under 18. Opponents argue that the breach the

:32:47.:32:48.

human rights of parents. Britain's first new nuclear power

:32:49.:32:53.

plant for decades is expected The board of the french energy firm

:32:54.:32:55.

EDF will make its final decision Hinkley Point in Somerset will take

:32:56.:32:59.

a decade to build and will supply 7% of the UK's electricity

:33:00.:33:04.

over its lifetime of 60 years. But the project remains

:33:05.:33:07.

controversial - critics say the UK has guaranteed too high

:33:08.:33:09.

a price for its power President Hollande says France will

:33:10.:33:21.

former National Guard to better protect the country from terrorist

:33:22.:33:22.

attacks. French police have formally

:33:23.:33:24.

identified the second of the two attackers who killed an elderly

:33:25.:33:26.

priest in Rouen on Tuesday. He's Abdelmalik Petitjean,

:33:27.:33:29.

who was 19 and from eastern France. His identity card had been found

:33:30.:33:31.

in the house of the other attacker, earlier identified as Adel Kermiche

:33:32.:33:34.

and DNA tests confirmed it was him. He was shot dead by police

:33:35.:33:37.

as he tried to flee the scene A daughter has told this programme

:33:38.:33:40.

how her dad died after doctors wrongly decided that his life

:33:41.:33:48.

could not be saved after he was put on the notorious and now discredited

:33:49.:33:52.

end of life care plan called Josef Boberek was admitted

:33:53.:33:54.

to Hammersmith hospital with a chest infection,

:33:55.:33:57.

but a wrong decision meant fluids It meant fluids and medication were

:33:58.:34:15.

withdrawn for him. The NHS Trust has apologised. Russia says they're

:34:16.:34:25.

working with Syrian fighters to open humanitarian escape lines from the

:34:26.:34:30.

city of Olympia. Humanitarian bodies are warning of a deepening crisis in

:34:31.:34:32.

the city. If you sit behind a desk in your job

:34:33.:34:35.

a new study suggests an hour's light exercise a day could help you avoid

:34:36.:34:39.

an early death. The medical journal the Lancet has

:34:40.:34:41.

published a series of papers The research claims it's linked

:34:42.:34:44.

to increased risks of heart disease, That's a summary of the latest news,

:34:45.:34:48.

join me for BBC Newsroom The anticipation is growing ahead

:34:49.:34:52.

of next week's Olympic Games, with Britain's first athletes having

:34:53.:35:02.

already arrived in Brazil Those who have arrived

:35:03.:35:04.

in Belo Horizonte include Nicola Adams and the rest

:35:05.:35:09.

of the boxing squad. Well, they arrive against

:35:10.:35:11.

a difficult backdrop - International Olympic Committee

:35:12.:35:13.

President Thomas Bach has defended the controversial decision not

:35:14.:35:15.

to ban the entire Russian team. He says it's to give

:35:16.:35:18.

clean athletes a chance. Celtic came from behind

:35:19.:35:27.

in Kazakhstan to draw their Champions League third

:35:28.:35:29.

round qualifier first leg against Astana -

:35:30.:35:30.

thanks to a late goal from striker The second leg at Parkhead

:35:31.:35:33.

is next weekend. Johanna Konta is through

:35:34.:35:37.

to the third round of The British number one,

:35:38.:35:39.

beat American qualifier Vania King in straight

:35:40.:35:43.

sets 7-5, 6-1. Rory McIlroy is hoping to return to

:35:44.:35:59.

form at the final golf major the season, the USPGA in New Jersey. He

:36:00.:36:02.

has not biggie-macro majoring two years. --

:36:03.:36:13.

he has not won major FIFA years. France is still reeling

:36:14.:36:23.

from the murder of an innocent, defenceless priest, at the hand

:36:24.:36:26.

of IS terrorists, earlier this week. It's the latest in a string

:36:27.:36:28.

of attacks on the French people over Now a French Newspaper has announced

:36:29.:36:31.

it's changing the way it It says it'll no longer publish any

:36:32.:36:35.

photos of the terrorists responsible, to stop them

:36:36.:36:38.

from being glorified. It's also refusing to print any

:36:39.:36:40.

of the propaganda material that terrorists post online,

:36:41.:36:43.

or any of the claims IS make This is the editorial published

:36:44.:36:45.

by Le Monde's director For us, this battle cannot be

:36:46.:36:48.

considered an exclusive cause intelligence agencies

:36:49.:36:52.

or politicians. This battle concerns

:36:53.:36:58.

all components of society and primarily our media landscape,

:36:59.:37:00.

restructured by the After the Nice Attack,

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we are publishing no more images of terrorists,

:37:03.:37:05.

perpetrator of killings We can speak now to

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Christian Makarian, who's the editor of L'Express -

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a French magazine. And here with me to discuss

:37:11.:37:12.

the decisions is David Aaronivitch, Rachel Johnson, who writes

:37:13.:37:14.

for the Mail on Sunday. Jonathan Russell, from

:37:15.:37:18.

the counter-extremist think tank Qullium, and Jacqui Putnam

:37:19.:37:19.

who survived the London tube Thank you for joining us. Christian,

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you are and editor in France, will you do the same? I don't think so.

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Even if there is a very good intention, we can have very many

:37:44.:37:48.

doubts on the effects of the good intention. The intention is good,

:37:49.:37:54.

the media does not want to bury their head in the sand. They take

:37:55.:38:00.

seriously into consideration the possible responsibility of the media

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in the Isis propaganda throughout Europe. This is good, showing that

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the media does not want to stay apart. They are also part of the

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fight against this horrible propaganda. This is for the good

:38:19.:38:27.

part. I have many doubts. As do many other journalists in Paris. Are we

:38:28.:38:35.

sure this is a way of reacting against a sophisticated propaganda,

:38:36.:38:44.

like Isis? In other words, I don't think Isis propaganda is frail, and

:38:45.:39:05.

can be fought by anonymity. I recall anonymity is thought by people

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changing their identity. Going to Syria, they use other passports and

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names. They play with identity themselves. I am not sure hiding

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their identity or faces is a very efficient way to fight this very

:39:24.:39:30.

deep propaganda. That works in the minds and the brains. Nevertheless,

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I think some of the media has the right to take the decision. Jackie,

:39:40.:39:44.

you survive the 77 bombings, how do you feel when you see the faces of

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terrorists in newspapers? I would not rather not remember them. The

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people that should be remembered people who died survive. I don't

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think giving them the oxygen of publicity is doing any good. I

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understand everyone needs to know who they are, but the general public

:40:26.:40:34.

do not. The anti-terrorist people do. I don't want to know the name of

:40:35.:40:39.

a man who killed the priest. Is that because of personal sensitivity, or

:40:40.:40:44.

wider concerns about what is in the public interest? It is the second. I

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don't think it is in the public interest to encourage people to

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think if they perpetrate such a terrible event, making this happen,

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I don't think it is good to give them the publicity. They seek it. I

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would like to deny them that. David, do you think it is right to deny

:41:10.:41:15.

them? The first responsibility that journalists have in a democracy is

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to give people the information, what is going on, tell the truth. I am

:41:19.:41:24.

afraid to say, other considerations that are important, and sometimes

:41:25.:41:29.

become pre-eminent, they are usually secondary. The first issue, where

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does the logic of this take you. The thing that most sparks people do

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acts of terrorism is not that they have been name, but the acts

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themselves. Should you give publicity to acts of terror? If you

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suppress it, you might not giving people the information they need.

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How does the picture gives somebody information present people have a

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great deal of curiosity. Giving them the capacity to understand the

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location. Even the picture of the person themselves. It will tell them

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something about their rage, the kind of person they are. But they think

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the cost of showing that picture is some kind of incredible publicity

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that otherwise this person would not get, let's say, on the Internet.

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Which is actually where probably most of the self sterilising takes

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place. Rachel, do you think they should be published? No, I don't. It

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was time for a futile gesture, as someone said. I like the fact that

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France take the lead, not putting on front pages mugshots of terrorists.

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It is contagious. 247 people have died in six countries over the

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summer. We cannot name a single number of these people. The killers

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have been publicised. Do you think it is the pictures out there? Is the

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crisis of toxic masculinity. As will the radicalisation and jihadist

:43:23.:43:32.

glorification of these men. It is not the 72 virgins in heaven, it is

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everybody will be looking at their faces on the front page, that has to

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be part of it. Quite right not to put them on. What do you think?

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There are two types of jihadists propaganda. The pieces of video

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content they will put out, Isis coming through the Internet. The

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second propaganda is the propaganda of the deed. In the last 53 days,

:43:56.:44:00.

with the 72 attacks claimed by jihadists. They know there will be a

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constant stream of media attention, causes, motivations, and to the

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individuals carrying them out, they know they can stay relevant by

:44:13.:44:16.

creating something so barbaric and shocking, the media cannot help but

:44:17.:44:20.

publish it. I'm glad there is a discussion about how they publish

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it. How they follow that. Whether there is information so the public

:44:29.:44:31.

can keep themselves safe. To understand the authorities are

:44:32.:44:35.

taking appropriate action. I'm glad Le

:44:36.:44:46.

Monde has taken a stand, saying not gay to glorify you in this way, not

:44:47.:44:53.

the publicity they crave. What about the fact it is on the Internet

:44:54.:44:56.

anyway? The social media and Internet aspects is part of this,

:44:57.:45:03.

too. For them to say they are part of the full-spectrum response. Not

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just looking to the security services, the military and the

:45:08.:45:10.

government to keep us safe, but civil society has a role to play. I

:45:11.:45:22.

think it is Le temporary standing up saying, it is not just their

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response, what can you do? I am not going to publish stills of Isis

:45:30.:45:33.

propaganda, I am not going to do this, I'm going to remember those

:45:34.:45:37.

who have died. I'm going to do something productive to turn the

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tide I completely understand the impulse

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and there are all kinds of places that journalists exercise restraint.

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We do it when we report suicide, four example. The first thing is,

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you have to be careful where this leads to. It is not actually the

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role of the media to do some of the things you have been talking about.

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You may wish that we do but actually, the information aspect of

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education and democracy is the main functional role of the media. If you

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in any substantial way start restricting the information you put

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out, because you are afraid of the impact that information may have, in

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that case, you are beginning the act of self censorship, which means you

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see yourself as part of a mobilised force in society, rather than a

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force which looks at that society and reports back to itself. David is

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making a Freedom of Information point. It is not as if news agencies

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are required by law to put this information in. The editor has

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exercised his right to do so. I take the point that if mainstream media

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decides to be much more selective about what information it that is

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out there, and I think it should, because the daily atrocity factor we

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have been living through means we all feel we do not want to go to

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France or go to Turkey. It is having a direct impact on people's live as

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a result of the media coverage. But if Isis think the mainstream media

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will not cover it, they might do other things like streaming of

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atrocities and mounted on their own platforms. Let them do that but I do

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not like to see it on the front pages. People have a choice about

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whether to buy a newspaper or listen to the radio. But it is everywhere.

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In America after the Twin Towers fell, the bereaved families had to

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join together to ask the media and to get a law, I could be wrong about

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whether it is a law or not, but to actually stop them filming, showing

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these films again and again and again. And I met a lady whose mother

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died on one of the planes, and she worked very hard to make sure that

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they could stop this, it is almost a pornography, isn't it? People forget

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that these are real lives which have been affected. We need to know these

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things are happening but we don't need to glorify the people who are

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doing it. I take your point, David, about the democracy and the need to

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know and they need to inform, but we don't need to lionise these people,

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we don't need to make them into an Isis superstar, we don't. Other

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media organisations in France are following Le Monde's decision not to

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publish names, how do you guard against the kind of lionise Asian

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that we were hearing described there? There are other places making

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that decision. But what are we talking about? Changing the rules of

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democracy, regarding the media, just because that is supposedly, it has

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an effect on, and amplification of Isis propaganda, is also a way to

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give Isis a victory inside the media landscape in the democracies. I

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think the answer is not simple, I don't say yes or no, I say it is

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very complex, to establish a link between their propaganda and what we

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call the glorification. I have never seen a newspaper, magazine, TV or

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radio in France or refine the murderers, never. So this notion of

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glorification has to be defined clearly. That is the first point.

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The second point is, personally as a journalist, I refuse to give up and

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change the rules of democracy, just because it can have this or that

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type of effect that I cannot evaluate. So it also has to be taken

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in consideration, in this crucial debate, and finally, the last

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argument, these people, are we sure that they look for fame? Or do they

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look for blood? You can say that fame can help them to make more

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massacres of things like that, but you have to demonstrate it. Is that

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their propaganda is very sophisticated. It is in their way of

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thinking, or in their way of not thinking, but it is very difficult

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to fight just with a question of image. It has to be found by the

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media, in the core of it, in the way it works, for instance, there is a

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crucial fact which is the age of the murderers. They are all very young

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people. This has to be examined. And on that point, the fact they are

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young people, the fact that the names and pictures are out there,

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that a lot of digging goes on about the lives behind these people who

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have committed whatever they have committed and stories emerge about

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the lives which are perhaps that odds with the message they want to

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put out, which is it is being done in the name of religion, the sort of

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reasons that are put out there? That is right. And while the French press

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has been responsible historically on this point, we have to remember that

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right here in the UK, we live streamed a press conference in which

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an organisation called jihadi John a beautiful young man. We had a

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magazine, Rollingstone Magazine put the Boston bomb up on its front

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cover and called him the bomber as if he was some sort of music star.

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It is outrageous? Should that be banned? Dodig should be banned and I

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don't think it is the job of governments or press regulators to

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say this is how you should do it, but within a free speech debate, I

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think media editors can take that decision themselves, and if they

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want to be responsible within that, just as they do want covering

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stories of suicide, that is fine, and should be encouraged, and should

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be replicated if they can on social media as well. This is why it has to

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be taken out of the government 's fear and into the public debate as

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we are doing now. A lot of people getting in touch. Jay says we should

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certainly name these murdering terrorists, the more we know, the

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better we can protect ourselves. Another says all media should not

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publicise anything to do with Isis or any organisation, a total media

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blackout needed. Thank you for your comments and thank you for joining

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us as well. Some news just coming

:53:50.:54:00.

in to us this morning. Stockport's Stepping Hill hospital

:54:01.:54:02.

has confirmed that it's to cut 350 full time jobs and close a ward due

:54:03.:54:04.

to budget pressures. The hospital is ?40 million

:54:05.:54:07.

in deficit and plans The hospital trust says it's hoping

:54:08.:54:09.

the posts can be lost How many times do you get up

:54:10.:54:13.

from your desk and go for a walk - even if it's just to grab some fresh

:54:14.:54:25.

air during your lunch? Well, not enough according

:54:26.:54:28.

to new research. It's found that doing at least one

:54:29.:54:29.

hour of "brisk walking" each day, could offset the risks of early

:54:30.:54:33.

death linked to a Let's talk to Lauretta Johnnie,

:54:34.:54:35.

a personal trainer and the founder of Full Figured Fitness

:54:36.:54:39.

and Lucy Wilkinson, a senior cardiac nurse at the British Heart

:54:40.:54:42.

Foundation. Thank you both for joining us. What

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do you make of this research, do you think we are spending too much time

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at our desks and it is damaging our health, the researchers are saying

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more than smoking? It is interesting looking at these large reports and

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the suggestion that an hour of brisk walking could offset the eight hours

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of sitting at a desk a day. It is a subject that we need to approach.

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Physical inactivity is a huge problem worldwide. The World Health

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Organisation says it is the fourth leading risk factor for mortality

:55:23.:55:25.

worldwide. It is something we need to address and we need to make it

:55:26.:55:34.

accessible to people and we need people to think, I'm sitting here

:55:35.:55:37.

for eight hours and I need to do something to counteract that and it

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needs to be through physicality. OK, Lauretta, you have brought some kit

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in. You can see by their posture that they sit in chairs for a long

:55:51.:55:57.

time. When we get to the stage of having physical pain we think we

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should address it so we should start addressing it now. So you need to

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think about your posture but that will not improve your fitness?

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Definitely. Our muscles can become underactive definitely, and even

:56:13.:56:16.

before you get into work, you can do things like leaving home earlier,

:56:17.:56:20.

walking to an extra bus stop, when you meet people at the bottom of the

:56:21.:56:27.

stairs, you can walk to work. And you can set challenges in the

:56:28.:56:32.

workplace and do exercises together. Things like taking the stairs,

:56:33.:56:37.

walking rather than driving, if you can, if your journey is short enough

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for that, or many of us doing that or have we got too lazy? These

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things do add up. It is about doing small, manageable pieces of

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activity. What we recommend and what the British Heart Foundation

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recommends is 150 minutes moderate intensity activity a week. We say

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that is easily broken down into 530 minute periods and you can break

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that down into ten periods. It does not sound like much? It is about

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setting yourself and achievable target. If you get to that,

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brilliant. How minibus are not doing that? Cardiovascular disease is huge

:57:20.:57:25.

in the UK. There are seven million people living with cardiovascular

:57:26.:57:29.

disease and inactivity is a huge risk factor. There are a lot of

:57:30.:57:34.

people not reaching their activity levels. But do you have to get to

:57:35.:57:39.

the stage where you are out of breath and stretching yourself? It

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is about building up to that point. This report says an hour of physical

:57:43.:57:48.

activity a day can offset sitting at a desk. But one hour is a lot for

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people who do not do anything on a daily basis, so it is about breaking

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that down? A quick tip? First and foremost, get the OK from the

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doctor, you can hold your tummy in, clench or bottom, you can do walking

:58:05.:58:09.

and running, you can do some leg lifts. I have got the band here. You

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can do some stretches with the band so it is a nice chest stretch

:58:16.:58:19.

breathing in and out, moving your arms to the side and bring it

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forward, so there is a lot you can do. Lots of good tips there. Thank

:58:25.:58:26.

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