28/07/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

It is Thursday, nine o'clock, I am Jeremy Gosling. -- Joanna Gosling.

Lloyds Bank has announced it is axing a further 3,000 jobs

and doubling its planned branch closures, with 200 more

to be go from the UK's high-streets by the end of 2017.

The cuts are in addition to the 9,000 job and 200 branch

The man in charge of the bank is blaming brexit.

We are talking exclusively to a woman who's dad died

in hospital after doctors decided wrongly that his life could not be

They used the controversial Liverpool Care Pathway and have

admitted for the first time that it killed him.

Should the photos of terrorists be splashed across the media?

France's leading newspaper is banning them - saying it

gives them the publicity and glory they crave.

Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

Lots coming up, do you think that the names and photos

of terrorists should be published - does it give them the

Tell us what you think as a leading french newsaper has

Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning -

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Lloyds Banking Group is cutting a further 3,000 jobs

The high street lender - still ten per cent

owned by the taxpayer - says it's preparing for a cut

in interest rates after last month's vote to leave the EU.

Let's go straight to our Business Correspondent Ben Thompson

who has all the details - he's at the London Stock

They are blaming breaks it, tell us why taking this action. Looks like

cannot hear us. We cannot go to him. We will check in with then a little

later to get more on exactly what is happening with Lloyds, and why they

say breaks it is to blame. Actually, I think you can hear us now. Can you

hear me? I can, welcome to the stock exchange. Technical gremlins getting

in the way. Nevertheless we are talking about Lloyds, a raft of

details coming through from all sorts of businesses. Lloyd is one of

the crucial ones. Recapping on what he said in the introduction. Another

3000 jobs to go at Lloyd's, on top of the 9000 already announced last

year, taking to 12,000 across the country. Also more branch closures.

Closing another 200 branches up and down the UK. By this time next year

400 will have disappeared from our high street. Why are they doing it?

They have blamed breaks it, because of the record low interest rates,

there is an expectation that the cost of borrowing will fall further.

That means the profit margin that the banks can charge, on loans and

mortgages get smaller and smaller. Making less money. Pointing to the

fact we're changing the way we our banking. Not going into bank

branches, doing it on our phones and mobiles, tablets and computers

instead. They want to save about ?400 million. Announcing plans to

cut those jobs, close those branches this morning. The biggest fall is on

the stock market, Lloyds down almost two and three quarters of a percent.

That is what investors are thinking. Not going down well with people

campaigning to keep branches open. All of this coming at the same time,

that they have announced pre-tax profits doubling to ?2.5 billion.

All other factors they are citing as reasons for job losses and closures

could apply to any banks, we will expect others to do similar? We have

seen a raft of bank closures and lay-offs in the past few years.

Largely as a result of the changing weight weedy banking. When was the

last time you went to a branch, paid in a cheque over-the-counter? That

has changed. Progress suggests it will go one. More of us using mobile

phones to do our banking. Contactless payments, credit cards.

All of that changing the way we do banking. No surprise they are

closing. After all they are very expensive, prime high street

locations, costing money to run and keep staff in them. Particularly

important in rural areas, they need to stay open, according to critics.

It is the lifeline of the local community. Local businesses paying

money and, taking cash out, also needed for older people unable to

access Internet or do it on the mobile phone. They want face-to-face

interaction. A lot of banks struggling with how they adapt to

new technology. What will they look like 5-10 years from now, still

trying to work that out. Particularly galling, given they

have announced profits rising to ?2.5 billion. At the same time

escalating the cost-cutting strategy, laying 3000 staff off on

top of the 9000 last year. 200 branches to go. On top of 200 last

year. 400 in total. Let's catch up with the rest of the

news. Anita is in the newsroom. The long-awaited decision

on whether a new nuclear power will be built at Hinckley Point

in Somerset could come today. The French energy firm EDF

is holding a board meeting where it's expected to approve

the giant ?18 billion pound project. Here's our business

correspondent John Moylan: It is a project on a vast scale. The

twin nuclear reactors planned for Hinkley point will provide 7% of the

UK's electricity. Due to start generating in 2025, one of the first

nuclear plants to be given the green light in Europe in years.

Preparation work at this site is under way. EDF ploughing in 2.5

billion euros. After years of delays it is set to be approved. Hinkley

point See will cost 21 billion euros. One of the most expensive

man-made structures on the planet. The Chinese group CGN is a 35% stake

in the project. Part of a wider deal which could see Chinese reactors

built in Britain. French ambitions to export nuclear technology around

the world have suffered a series of setbacks. The EDF project in France

has been hit by delays and is billions of euros over budget. The

finance chief resigned earlier this year, amid concerns soaring costs

could destabilise EDF's finances. The powerful unions want Hinkley

point to be delayed. Earlier this week the shareholders approved a

major refinancing plan, paving the way for today's decision. The UK

looks set to enter a new nuclear era.

French police have formally identified the second of the two

attackers who killed an elderly priest in Rouen on Tuesday.

He's Abdelmalik Petitjean, who was 19 and from eastern France.

An identity card belonging to Abdelmalik Petitjean was found

in the house of the other attacker, Adel Kermiche, but because his body

was so badly disfigured in the police shooting

it was impossible to be sure it was him.

But now DNA tests have confirmed it.

The group calling itself is Lamex Stadium has allegedly released video

evidence of the two pledging themselves to its leader.

Barack Obama has urged Democrats to unite behind Hillary Clinton

as the most qualified person ever to run for the White House.

Closing the third day of the Democratic National Convention,

the outgoing President praised Mrs Clinton as someone

Meanwhile, the Republican candidate Donald Trump took advantage of more

controversy surrounding the leak of emails and voicemails

from the Democratic national Committee.

Kim Ghattas reports from Philadelphia:

On the third night of their convention,

the Democrats brought out their biggest asset.

The popular president, and gifted speaker, he

for Hillary Clinton as the Commander-in-Chief.

Time and again you have picked me up.

Tonight I ask you to do for Hillary Clinton what you

I ask you to carry the same way you carried me.

President Obama knows that to preserve his

legacy he needs Hillary Clinton to win the White House.

Her rival had just stirred up a storm, after

allegations Russia was behind hacking into the Democrat party.

He suggested Russia should hack Hillary

Russia, I hope you are able to find the 30,000

You will be probably rewarded mightily by our

At the Democratic convention, from Joe Biden, to Senator Ted Caine,

They all attacked Mr Trump as a demagogue and

After President Obama laid out his vision

for America, a surprise appearance by the woman he hopes will take it

Theresa May's European Union tour moves to Poland and Slovakia today

as she continues talks on preparing for Brexit.

It follows a meeting with the Italian Prime Minister

yesterday, as well as talks in Germany, France and Ireland

Slovakia and Poland are among the EU states which benefit most

They have voiced concern about the rights of their nationals

The Turkish Government has ordered the closure of nearly

100 media organisations, as part of the crackdown

Almost 100 newspaper and broadcast journalists have also been arrested

The crackdown by Turkey's president has also targeted service personnel,

judges, government officials, school teachers

Immigration officials have arrested dozens of workers

at the burger chain, Byron.

The Home Office said 35 people from Albania, Brazil,

The operation took place earlier this month at restaurants

across London, but information has only just emerged.

Officials said it had been carried out with the restaurant chain's

A study of more than a million people has found that doing an hour

of activity a day could offset the health risks of sitting

The journal the Lancet has published a series of papers on the costs

of physical inactivity which is linked to an increased risk

of heart disease, diabetes and some cancers.

we know that sedentary behaviour is detrimental to health.

We wanted to understand whether physical activity

to eliminate the association between sitting time and inactivity.

If you are physically active for at least

one hour a day you are able to offset the association between

We're going to have tips on the sort of exercise you can do when you are

sitting down, stay with us. Plenty coming up on the programme. Do you

think the names and photographs of terrorists should be published? Does

it give them the publicity they crave? A leading French newspaper

has decided to ban them. We are looking into the new research, with

some experts, to give us some handy tips.

Let's catch up with the sport. We have an Olympic themed bulletin

this morning. Why not? The games are just a week away. We will hear from

the under fire IOC boss in a moment. First, to Team GB's preparations.

They have arrived at their training camp, 300 miles from Rio. It has

been financed by lottery grants, and officials say it has the best

facilities in Brazil. We have been to Brazil to take a look.

Sonny Webster may not be one of Team GB's best medal prospects. No

attention to detail has been spared. The under 98 kilograms weightlifter

provided with the same equipment at the training camp that he will use

later in Rio. Written's two weightlifters among the first to

arrive in Brazil along with the big boxing contingent, among them Nicola

Adams. Gold medallist in London, favourite to repeat that in Rio,

clearly enjoying the Olympic atmosphere. ?1.6 million in lottery

funding has been spent on getting this training camp right. Ringing

together athletes from 28 different sports, under one flag. The key part

is bringing the team together, not the individual national governing

bodies going to rear, the aim is Team GB, trying to unite the team to

bring them together to take on the world in the greatest challenge of

their lives, the Olympic Games environment. After coming third in

the medals table in London, Team GB has set a realistic but difficult

target of 48 medals in Rio. Using the best facilities is a key part of

achieving that target. This is a brand-new swimming pool in Belo

Horizonte, used by the entire squad. By their own high standards British

swimmers underperformed four years ago. Fran Halsall and Hannah Miley

among the swimmers in Brazil, training in reportedly the best

facilities in the country. More than 270 miles from Rio, this training

camp is inadvertently keeping UK athletes away from wider

distractions, including the political dispute on whether Russian

competitors should be excluded. Reports of the much travelled

athletes village, that should be ready by the time they arrive in

Rio. The British athletes will use facilities installed and paid for by

Team GB. Bosses insist they will have the best preparation possible.

Well, the Russian athletes who have not been band have also been

arriving in Rio. The IOC president has been justifying the decision not

to ban the entire Russian team. It is appreciated, on the one hand we

are sanctioning the system, but on the other hand, we give athletes who

are not part of the system, the opportunity to demonstrate this.

That is all the sport for now, but at 9:30am, we will take a look at

all the stories today and an in-depth look in our 's time.

Thank you. In an exclusive interview

this morning, Her dad died after doctors wrongly

decided that his life could not He was put on the notorious and now

discredited end of life care plan This meant that doctors withdrew

fluids and medication from Joseph and told Jayne

he was close to death. She spent the next three years

fighting to get answers and the hospital trust

has now apologised. This is believed to be the first

time hospital chiefs have publicly accepted the Liverpool Care Pathway

had "killed" a patient. We'll speak to Jayne in a moment,

but first let's remind ourselves Just under half of us die in a

hospital. Good end of life or palliative care is designed to make

that last experience as comfortable and dignified as possible. The

Liverpool care pathway, introduced in the 90s in England, Scotland and

Northern Ireland was meant to make that easier. Among other things, it

introduced a check list, think of it as a prompt for hospital staff to

help them work out when drugs, fluids and invasive tests can be

stopped. Those kind of treatments can be painful or unhelpful in the

last stage of life. The pathway often worked well, but when it went

wrong, it was extremely controversial. There were reports of

treatments being moved too quickly. Some families said their loved ones

had been left without food or water. The most damaging complaint was

around communication. Some patients were being put on the LCP without

anyone giving permission. Some families only found out about it

after a loved one had passed away. After all the controversy, in 2013,

the government scrapped the Liverpool care pathway in England.

It is also being phased out in Scotland and Northern Ireland. It

should be replaced with individual end of life plans, tailored to the

patient and discussed with their family but the discussion is not

over. Some critics say the government have just rebranded the

LCP, giving it a different name but continuing many of the same

practices. Well, Jayne Boberek,

whose father would have home had he not been placed

on the Liverpool Care Pathway, Thank you for coming in. You have

had a long battle to prove what happened. Take us back to when your

father went into hospital. He was 92. He had chronic background

conditions but these were being treated adequately. He had a routine

chest infection and he was admits it being dehydrated already, so I

presume the hydration aspect was being taken care off, as it usually

was. A few days later, I noticed he was not eating or drinking properly,

although he said he wanted food so I knew he had an appetite. I reported

this to the visiting therapist and she told the staff on the Monday

morning and they gave him extra fluids. But I didn't know at the

time, less than a quarter of these had been administered, and a few

days later, a junior doctor told me that the whole team had been talking

and they were thinking not to treat my father, because he had developed

a further infection, and his chronic heart, kidney and liver conditions

were at a terminal stage. That is how it was presented. I said, if

antibiotics had a good effect, what would be the result? They said, even

then, the problem is his heart. So effectively, he was not being

treated at this point. I only found out later he already was not being

treated. This was 29 hours without oral fluids and a day and a half

without his routine medications by the time I was approached. It was

quite confusing picture, in that you were being told that there were

various conditions going on which you subsequently discovered were not

the case. He seemed to be deteriorating, but you now know that

is because he was not getting the fluids. Was it a simple case of the

hydration, do you think? I think it was lack of care, lack of oral

dehydration, lack of clinically assisted rehydration, and I am not

sure if this was deliberate incompetency or what. You were told

that he was getting a lot of fluid, but he wasn't? I had alerted them to

the fact I felt he was not getting enough intake, yes. I presumed this

was being taken care of. Why do you think he was not being given that

fluid? I think it was a mixture of things. I think it was difficult.

The cannula came out, it was not reinserted. The fluid was not

continued. I am really not sure. I think it was a lack of factors, a

lack of substandard care and a lack of adequate care. That is your dad.

That is him, yes. Tell us a bit about him. He was quite a character.

That is what people said to me in the hospital, he is quite a

character, your dad. He was. He was very fiery, very opinionated, and

even though he was over 90, he had life left in him yet. When I saw him

in the bed deteriorating, I presumed, and it was presented to

me, that this was part of his condition, his medical condition. I

found out from the report, and from my research, that it wasn't. The

dehydration was the likely cause, and the removal of his routine

medications. Why were you so certain, because you had doctors

telling you he had an infection, you could see the deterioration, and you

did not know at that stage it was down to hydration, why were you so

sure that you were not getting the whole picture? I still, even up to

the moment he died, I believed he had another infection, and that his

organs were failing, but it looked to me like he was battling for life.

They looked like he was not ready to let go, and the question was,

whether to intervene, when I believed his organs were absolutely

failing, and this was the end stage. Afterwards, I left the hospital,

knowing that something profoundly wrong had happened, that I had

witnessed, something deeply wrong, and that is when I started to pursue

it myself, and got his records. The doctors said they had been talking

about his condition and whether to effectively put him on the Liverpool

Care Pathway. How's that bit to you? This was very odd, because it was at

530 in the late afternoon and I had been asking them all day, I had been

alerting them, he has not eaten, he has not drunk all day, I am

concerned. I was alerting them that there was something wrong, and I

presumed as if this was presented as his ongoing medical conditions, this

was a consequence of them. Hydration wasn't even on my radar. I naturally

assumed, it was such basic care, that he had been given all adequate

hydration. This was what I presumed. Word they open with you about the

Liverpool Care Pathway? No. The junior doctor said I can go and get

the papers for the Liverpool Care Pathway now. That alerted me that

something was wrong. And so, I said, I agree to hold on. I thought I was

agreeing just to stop the antibiotics, just to hold onto that,

but I presumed everything else was continuing, it was just the

medication that was on hold. So you did not know it was effectively a

pathway that would ease him to his end? I did not know that it had been

started. I think it was effectively underway without the paperwork. The

paperwork was put in place the next day. I think a day and a half before

I was even spoken to, it was already underway. I had power of attorney,

so this is the last thing I was expecting. When I had power of

attorney, I should have been consulted regarding all medical

decisions, all clinical decisions. So after he died, you asked to see

the records? Yes. How quickly did you work out what had happened? The

records in themselves that were sent to me were not complete. There were

a few crucial pages missing which confirmed he had not received all

his hydration, or his IV fluids. These pages I received after the

investigation when I pursued and pursued them, asking for an

explanation, or to give me these pages. So I received the pages

incomplete. I did a lot of research and I could see the responses given

by the hospital. The first response said they followed the best

principles of palliative care, and his organs were failing, he would

not have recovered anyway even with treatment. The second response told

me that his diagnosis of dying and his care was correct in all aspects.

I could see the information they were giving me did not match up with

the medical records. I am a non-medical person. What is your

background? It is quite something went doctors are telling you

something... Very senior doctors. And then everyone is saying they are

agreeing with a position which is very different from the position you

suspect. What was your background that made you sort of able to pick

through that and keep on fighting? It was odd to me that a very senior

palliative care physician was telling me that my father was dying

on a Wednesday morning, but it was okayed to consult me on a Thursday

evening. That sounded odd in itself. When I picked through the detail and

I could see it did not match up with his medical records, all that was

left was a prognosis that he was likely to die in the future. That

was really literally all that was left, when you removed the incorrect

statements made. This was a fight that went over three years. Yes! How

much toing and froing was there? I managed to get the final pages a

year and a half after he died, the puzzle fell into place because there

were nursing notes and you could see he had the, the fluids had not been

administered. I referred it to the ombudsman because the hospital did

not want to pursue it any further. And the ombudsman said you were

right? Yes. What was it like when you had that three? It was not a

surprise really. I had still believed at that point that my

father's organs had been at the end stage, that his background

conditions were terminal. But that was a shock to me, that he wasn't.

As far as we know, yours is the only case, where it has been assessed,

that the Liverpool care pathway did actually lead to the death of

somebody who otherwise would have survived? Yes, his withdrawal of

treatment, long before the Liverpool Care Pathway was in place, yes. His

reduction. If you reduce fluids and they sit medications in a healthy

person, you are going to cause deterioration, but if you do that to

an old man, you certainly are. The reason the Liverpool Care Pathway

was introduced was to try and ensure a dignified and comfortable death

for somebody who was certainly dying, but it has now been phased

out, because of concerns around why it was used. Do you think there are

other lessons? I think the new guidelines are deeply worrying and

repeat many of the same elements. The constant repetition in the new

guidelines about diagnosing the dying patient, as if they can beat

diagnosed. There is an inference that you can diagnose someone as

dying and you cannot. There is no clinical evidence. Once you make

that assumption and start removing treatment, it is a self-fulfilling

prophecy. What would you tell somebody if they have concerns if

they have a relative in hospital? You shouldn't have to do this but

I'm afraid you do, you have to be suspicious about what is going on,

and make sure your relatives is fully hydrated, orally and even IV.

Make sure IV fluids are all given, or if they are taken down, why they

are taken down. And be constantly aware that treatment and care can be

removed without being aware of it. Thank you.

We asked the Imperial College Healthcare Trust for a statement

The UK could be getting its first nuclear power plant for 20 years

at Hinkley Point in Somerset - we'll find out what impact

the decision will have on our energy prices and the environment.

And could your office job be bad for your health?

Scientists say you should do one hour of exercise every day to combat

the negative effects that sitting all day at work could have

Let's catch up on all the news with a meter. -- Anita.

Lloyds has announced this morning that it's cutting 3,000 jobs -

that's in addition to the 9,000 posts it said it was

It's also closing an additional 200 branches.

The bank - which is part state owned - warned that Brexit

could have an adverse impact on its future performance.

Britain's first new nuclear power plant for decades is expected

The board of the french energy firm EDF will make its final investment

Hinkley Point in Somerset will take a decade to build and will supply

7%of the UK's electricity over its estimated

It's scheduled to begin generating power in 2025, several

French police have formally identified the second of the two

attackers who killed an elderly priest in Rouen on Tuesday.

He's Abdelmalik Petitjean, who was 19 and from eastern France.

DNA tests have confirmed it his him after an identity card belonging

to Abdelmalik Petitjean was found in the house of the other

The group calling itself Islamic State has released video

footage, allegedly showing the two men pledging allegiance

Barack Obama has urged Democrats to unite to make Hillary Clinton

Closing the third day of the Democratic National Convention,

the outgoing President said his former rival

Mrs Clinton was the only choice for an optimistic America.

And the most qualified person ever to run for the White House.

Nearly 100 media organisations in Turkey are being closed down

as part of a crackdown following a failed coup

Almost 100 newspaper and broadcast journalists have also been arrested

The crackdown by Turkey's president has also targeted service personnel,

judges, government officials, school teachers and university heads.

A study of more than a million people has found that doing an hour

of activity a day could offset the health risks of sitting

The journal the Lancet has published a series of papers on the costs

of physical inactivity which is linked to an increased risk

of heart disease, diabetes and some cancers.

A lot of you getting in touch with your thoughts on whether terrorists'

photographs should be published, after one French newspaper said they

would not be doing it. One reviewer said they glory in the publicity,

deny them the gratification. John said, absolutely yes. Images of

atrocities should be published widely and honestly. Good for France

for banning images of the terrorists, we had to suppress our

impulses to their faces. Well done France, someone with sense. They

should not get media coverage anywhere. Anonymous text, I agree

with banning the faces of terrorists in the papers and all media, what

those murderers crave is that kind of fame and attention. Encouraging

other young people to follow. As a viewer I don't want to see the faces

of killers, we should focus on telling the stories of the victims.

I totally agree, Isis and other terrorist groups faces should not be

published. Videos should not be allowed on Facebook or similar

social media sites. Let them be treated as the insignificant cowards

that they are. Kevan Hurst texting, terrorism and publicity,

broadcasting needs to think about this is one as the medias. Nonstop

coverage by broadcasters leads into future terrorist incidents. Once

they are reported, some curtailment should happen to restore is a sense

of proportion. Well done to the French media, we give too much

coverage to the terrorists. Do keep that coming in. Hello, there

anticipation is growling ahead of next week's Olympic Games, written's

first athletes arriving in Brazil, beginning their preparations. Those

who have arrived in Belo Horizonte include Nicola Adams and the rest of

the boxing squad. They arrive against a difficult backdrop.

International Olympic Committee chief Thomas Bach has defended the

decision, after Vladimir Putin called it discrimination. Celtic

drew their first leg of their Champions League qualifier, 1-1.

Leigh Griffiths with a late goal. Johanna Konta through to the third

round of the Rogers cup in Montreal. The world number one, Jason Day,

says he is running on empty as the prepares to defend the USPGA

Championship in New Jersey later today. The Australian managing only

one practice round after spending time with his wife is suffered an

allergic reaction. More sport just after ten o'clock.

Prime Minister Theresa May is continuing her whirlwind

diplomacy tour of Europe with a visit to Poland.

She will meet Prime Minister Polish Prime Minister Szydlo.

It is expected they will discuss the ramifications of the UK's vote

to leave, including the residency status of the 850,000 Poles

that currently reside in the UK.

We can speak to Conservative MP Daniel Kawczynski who voted to leave

and originally came to Britain as a Polish immigrant in the 1970s.

Kate Fejfer who is a Polish community leader

and Ola Rybinska a polish journalist from Warsaw who can give us

Thank you for joining us. Kate, what will Polish people living here be

hoping for on freedom of movement? For us, important to make sure we

are safe, secure to stay here. Our rights to get a job and still work,

without losing care. Our Polish people feeling vulnerable about

their future? Yes, we have... I spoke to friends and clients, and

they are fearing for the future. You are a journalist in Poland, what

will Poland be wanting to get out of the Brecht it negotiations? I think

the first thing will be that Poland will want the UK to take a lot of

time to leave the European Union. Poland is hoping for Brett set after

2020. The Polish Prime Minister will try to convince Theresa May to take

time, this bone breaks it until 2020. The reason is simple, it is

about the EU funding. After 2020, the rules will change anyway for the

reallocation of EU funds. If the UK leaves before that, the rules will

change, and Poland will receive less money from the EU budget. This will

certainly be one thing you are telling us about the EU funds, what

about freedom of movement? Freedom of movement is important, but David

Cameron gave us guarantees, not much will change, at least for the Polish

people in the UK. Not such a big issue. We have, and the Polish

government has a lot of trust in the UK, that the rules will not change,

essentially. Theresa May has not given that guarantee. Let's bring in

Daniel. How should Theresa May handle the talks, balancing

written's interest on free trade, and the question of freedom of

movement? She has two obviously pursue what is in the British

National strategic interest. What will be vital is that we protect the

rights of the British citizens living in the European Union. There

are currently 1.8 million Britons living in the EU. 3 million EU

citizens living in the United Kingdom. I understand the polls want

to have safeguards for their continued residence in the United

Kingdom, that should come about, but only when we are given the same

guarantees for our citizens, currently living in the European

Union. Where do you see the balance of what is in the British interest?

850,000 Polish people living and working in the UK. Should they all

be allowed to stay? The free movement of people is a wonderful

concept in theory. In practice it has not worked, only to make

countries in the European Union. Ourselves and island-macro. English

is the international language, we have received a massively

disproportionate number of migrants from all over the European Union in

to come, work and live in the European union. I believe

immigration is good for our country, but it has to be managed. The

concern is that the Polish government has played to its own

domestic audience, to say to them we are standing up for your rights, to

live and work wherever you like in the European Union, but that is

unsustainable. Bad for Poland. Because there are cities and towns

rapidly becoming depopulated in Poland. They are having real

problems providing public services because of the brain drain. It is

bad for the United Kingdom, certain communities like Peterborough,

Boston, where local services are being overwhelmed by the sheer

numbers. Yes, let's protect people already here, but Syriza may must

ensure that wrecks it means breaks it. United Kingdom takes back

control of our borders. So we can decide who gets to come into our

country to work, if they have the relevant skills, matching our skills

shortages. Have you seen evidence of the brain drain? Yes, of course.

This is absolutely true. It would be in the interest Poland these people

came back. The problem is, I'm not sure we can assure jobs from all of

them. On the same level and position, certainly not for the same

money they get by working in the UK for the future. The Polish

government would like to get people back, the brain drain is bad for us.

The question is do we have jobs and housing for all these people? Kate,

you are concern is primarily with people here already. If there were

guarantees that people already here could stay, would that be what you

want? Do you have concerns about future freedom of movement? Or not

so much? Definitely, we still have family in Poland. Living in the UK,

we are still going for holidays. Automatically, this may be more

difficult for us. The future for us is very important, we still have

family, children, they go to school, university, we would like to know

what will happen. What has been the particular law of Britain for Polish

people? Why have they been particularly attractive to coming to

Britain in Europe? For the time, the financial programme. We don't have

enough Social Security in Poland. We are looking for a better life.

Depending where we are giving from experience, we may stay. Are we

coming back to Poland, which is not good, the level of life is better,

but still not enough to stay there. Talk about a seven year emergency

brake on freedom of movement, as part of a trade deal with the free

market, what do you think of that? No, I would be uncomfortable with

that. A lot of other Conservative Parliamentary colleagues would be

uncomfortable with anything which radically falls short of our ability

to take back control of our borders. As I said, immigration was the

number one issue at the last general election, quite extraordinary that

rather than the economy which has been the number one issue,

immigration was the number one issue at the last general election. People

expect us to take back control of our borders. The vast majority of

people in the United Kingdom unwelcoming, very tolerant to

foreigners. They understand the economic benefits to our country of

allowing people with skills to come and work. They do expect very keenly

that the government has the ability to control the numbers coming in.

Last year we had net migration of 350,000 into the country. Completely

unsustainable. To answer the other lady's point, Poland is grabbing at

a phenomenal pace. Its economy is growing at a faster rate than most

other countries in the European Union. Standards of living are going

up in Poland. Poland will ultimately reach the stain standard as we have

in the United Kingdom. -- the same standard. It is vital that Theresa

May explains to the Polish government that if we are going to

help Poland with various issues she has going forward, one of which is

security. They want a permanent Nato base east of Warsaw, if they want

that support on fundamentally important things they feel keenly

on, they must start to understand and respect some of the problems we

have in the United Kingdom with migration, and try to work with us,

so we can resolve them, in the interests of our own citizens.

And is there an understanding of the sort of arguments that Daniel is

talking about in Poland? Yes of course, there is. The point is that

most immigration we see from Poland to the UK is from very small towns.

It is from more or less the countryside where there is really

structural unemployment. The point is, if it was that easy to take

those people back and put them into work, the problem is, there is no

work, that is why they left. That problem hasn't been solved. But the

Polish economy is growing. Isn't it better to build a stronger economy

with their workforce? Of course, but it will not happen tomorrow or the

day after tomorrow. This will take years. We have structural problems

in Poland which need to be solved but the government has only just

started working on it. During that time there is no employment in these

regions where these people left for the UK. Of course, the Polish

government sees the arguments of the UK, and the British government sees

and understands the problems they have with migration, but I think a

compromise will have to be worked out. I then think all the posts will

be back immediately, and there will be a time for maybe a couple of

years that they will stay in the UK, and some kind of compromise will

have to be worked out. How quickly do you want deals to be sewn up? We

are thinking that article 50 may be invoked after Christmas, when

Article 50 is invoked we have a period up to two years for

renegotiation. I had a debate in the House of Commons just the other

week, about the contribution of polls in the UK, because I wanted to

explain to fellow parliamentarians and the extraordinary contribution

that Polish people have made to this country, not just in the recent

years, but most importantly during the Battle of Britain when the

Polish 303 Squadron was the most accessible Squadron in the Battle of

Britain. Polish people have made a huge contribution and their

reputation in this country is second to none. Most of the people I have

spoken to know Polish migrants to be hard-working, paying their taxes,

contributing to society, so they are the ideal type of migrants, and we

are very appreciative of their contribution. But the Polish economy

has grown by 500% since the fall of communism. It is continuing to grow

and I very much hope the Polish government will start to ensure

there are more jobs available for Polish workers, because the numbers

that have been coming over I just unsustainable, and yes, we must

protect the rights of the people who are here already, yes, first and

foremost we must protect the rights of British people in the European

Union, but the Polish government has the government around the European

Union and must now understand that we want to trade with them, we want

to cooperate with them in terms of security, but there is free movement

of -- this free movement of people concept coming to the United Kingdom

is gone. We gave them a chance repeatedly in the negotiations. Mr

Cameron went over and over again to Warsaw, to explain how difficult it

was to deal with these numbers. They chose to ignore our concerns. That

is why we are pulling out of the European Union, and that is why this

concept of completely controlled migration to this country, those

days are gone. Daniel, Kate and Ola, thank you. Coming up...

Are prisons able to cope with older inmates?

A watchdog says many age-related conditions like dementia

The crackdown in Turkey following the failed coup is continuing with

the dismissal or a rest of thousands of people from all walks of life.

The military, the media and education officials, more than 100

media outlets were ordered to close yesterday. Dozens of journalists

have been arrested in recent days. Yesterday we spoke to Yavuz Baydar,

who has 40 years' experience as a journalist and was the founding

member of Platform for That was before this latest

round of closures - We are not revealing his location

due to concerns for his safety. Thank you very much for joining us

again. Since we spoke, there has been more of a crackdown, what is

your reaction to it? The most recent news piece is younger, investigative

reporter, was caught by police and this is a reporter awarded the

runner-up in the EU investigative reporting award this year. That is

the latest peace. And then the decree last night, the massive

closure of as you said, more than 100 news outlets, about 45

newspapers, 16 TV stations and radio stations and three news agencies.

This is a large bulk of whatever remains in a semi-independent

segment of the media. That is continuing and increasing a growing

clamp-down of media segments in Turkey. What is left in terms of

freedom of speech in Turkey? Our investigations are monitoring

reports... INAUDIBLE

Now we have a few tiny news sites, sort of left-leaning or centre

independent but struggling financially, four or five

newspapers, one with editors sentenced to five years in prison

at, another one the editor in chief is in prison and has threats over

his life. There are three or four newspapers, mainly left and one

Kurdish newspaper and no TV channel at all at the moment which can

report independently and freely at the moment in Turkey. You mentioned

some news sites, is the Internet still freely accessible? That is not

freely accessible. The emergency rule regulations, the law about

emergency rule approved without the concerns of the Internet, because it

is rather old, so it falls out of the jurisdiction of emergency rule,

that is why we did not see any lists of news sites in this one last

night, but a disk all upon the jurisdiction of the so-called peace

Courts, also strictly controlled by the Justice ministry at the moment.

It is the Internet, the bounds of new sites will continue to be

decided by the courts and judges. Lots of people have been arrested

and there have been concerns voiced by Amnesty International as well as

other organisations about what is happening to them in custody, how

easy is it to monitor what is going on and what sort of access to those

who are arrested have to any legal representation?

There are -- due to the severely restricted conditions of the media,

we have severe difficulties to understand the breadth of the

round-up. Also, human rights organisations like you and rights

watch and Anstey International are also having difficulties for access

-- Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International. The less free the

media is, the more curved the media is, the more it more difficulties we

will have two establish the facts. What is your view of where things

are going to go in Turkey? The pattern leaves very little doubt

about whether or not democratic position in Parmenter, the main

opposition and the second opposition and perhaps more importantly the

third-largest party in parliament, whether they will be establishing or

forming enough of a strong enough by now Mick for returning to

normalisation process. As one critical columnist pointed out this

morning, he said, ironically, Erdogan is ready to listen to the

opposition and to agree with the opposition, as far as the opposition

does not object to whatever he wants. The pattern is by the decrees

which means authoritarian and arbitrary rule. Turkey is drifting

more and more towards an authoritarian rule, because now,

given the... 145 generals were dismissed last night

by a decree, which means half of the total generals in the Turkish army.

The Armed Forces are also at its weakest point, state institutions

are mainly controlled by President Erdogan and the government, which

means everything is now to be described in terms of arbitrariness.

Unfortunately, the opposition is weak, scattered and NGOs are also

under the threat of the strict regulations by the emergency rule.

The judges were given immense jurisdiction for closing, seizures,

appropriation of the properties, so it is a very precarious situation.

It is a very delicate stage of things at the moment. Yavuz Baydar,

thank you for joining us, a journalist with 40 years experience.

Sorry about the problems with the line there but I think we could hear

most of what he was saying. In the wake of the attacks in France

- some French media say they will no longer publish the names and photos

of terrorists - Now, let's catch up with the latest

weather update. Carol is looking very sunny.

Thank you. The rain is moving from the west to the east, but we do have

a beautiful picture sent in from one of our BBC Weather Watchers of

Swanage in Dorset where it is sunny. You can see already the cloud is

romping from the west to east. The whitest cloud is where we do have

some rain at the moment. That rain is heaviest anywhere from the

Midlands northwards and lighter from the Midlands southwards. The whole

lot is driving over towards the North Sea. The hind it, some

brighter skies, some sunshine and also the risk this afternoon of some

thunderstorms, particularly so across the Midlands. As we drift

westwards, you can see we are expecting some spells. The showers

will be hit and miss. At times there will be more cloud around. Across

the Midlands we have rain extending across Scotland and into Northern

Ireland. North of that, a lot of dry and bright weather in Scotland apart

from the north and Western Isles and the North Mainland where we will see

some showers. The showers this evening and overnight will slowly

started to descend southwards. The rain across Northern Ireland and

Scotland is doing the same thing, pushing into Wales and the

south-west. Just ahead of it, you could catch one or two showers.

Tomorrow, here is our weather front bearing that rain. Showery outbreaks

pushing down to the south. Behind it, there will be sunny spells or

bright spells. Quite a lot of showers across the north and west of

Scotland. Temperatures 13 to 22 in the south-east. Then for the

weekend, this weather front continues to drift down towards the

south-east, and tends to fizzle. For Friday, and into the weekend, we

lose the warmth behind that weather front and cool air streams in as a

north-westerly dominates the weather but it will only be a breeze so it

will feel cooler rather than cold, but it will feel a lot colder by

night and paired with what we have been used to in many parts.

Saturday, a mixture of bright spells and showers but the emphasis is on

more dry weather than wet. Feeling warm in the south-east. Then a quick

look at Sunday. Bright spells, sunny spells or showers, but the emphasis

is on the dry weather, rather than the wet. If you are camping at any

of the festivals it will feel cool by night.

I'm Joanna Gosling, welcome to the programme

if you've just joined us, coming up before 11.

Lloyds has announced it's cutting a further 3,000 jobs and closing 200

more branches by the end of next year.

The bank is part state-owned and is warning that uncertainty

surrounding the Brexit vote could affect its profits in future.

It's already in the middle of cutting 9,000 posts.

The bank reported a ?2.5 billion pre-tax profit for the half

The first new nuclear power plant in the UK for decades is expected to be

given the go-ahead to. The French company EDF will be financing most

of the project and is holding a board meeting in Paris where it is

expected to approve the investment. A daughter has told this programme

how her dad died after doctors wrongly decided that his life

could not be saved after he was put on the notorious and now discredited

end of life care plan called It looked like was battling for

life, not ready to let go. To intervene when it looked like his

organs were failing. France is banning terrorist

photographs in the media, saying it gives them the publicity that they

crave. Lloyds has announced it's cutting

a further 3,000 jobs and closing 200 more branches by the end

of next year. The bank is part state-owned

and is warning that uncertainty surrounding the Brexit vote

could affect its profits in future. It's already in the middle

of cutting 9,000 posts. The bank reported a ?2.5 billion

pre-tax profit for the half The first new nuclear power plant

in the UK for decades is expected The French company EDF

will be financing most French police have formally

identified the second of the two attackers who killed an elderly

priest in Rouen on Tuesday. He's Abdelmalik Petitjean,

who was 19 and from eastern France. His identity card had been found

in the house of the other attacker, earlier identified as Adel Kermiche

and DNA tests confirmed it was him. He was shot dead by police

as he tried to flee the scene Campaigners have won Italians at the

Supreme Court against the Scottish Government's proposes to appoint a

named person for every child. A point of contact such as headteacher

would be assigned to look after children under 18. Campaigners say

it breaches the human rights of parents.

Barack Obama has urged Democrats to unite behind Hillary Clinton

as the most qualified person ever to run for the White House.

Closing the third day of the Democratic National Convention,

the outgoing President praised Mrs Clinton as someone

A daughter has told this programme how her dad died after doctors

wrongly decided that his life could not be saved after he was put

on the notorious and now discredited end of life care plan called

Josef Boberek was admitted to Hammersmith hospital

with a chest infection, but a wrong decision meant fluids

Jayne Boberek who fought for three years to get the truth said

she still has concerns about hospital procedures.

I think the new guidelines are deeply worrying and repeat

The constant repetition in the new guidelines

about diagnosing the dying patient as if they can be diagnosed.

There is an inference that you can diagnose somebody as dying

and you cannot there is no clinical evidence that you can do that.

And once you make that assumption and start removing treatment,

Britain's first new nuclear power plant for decades is expected

The board of the French energy firm EDF will make its final decision

Hinkley Point in Somerset will take a decade to build and will supply

7%of the UK's electricity over its lifetime of 60 years.

But the project remains controversial - critics say the UK

has guaranteed too high a price for its power

Russia says it is working with the Syrian army to open humanitarian

corridors to allow evil to leave the besieged city of Aleppo. It is also

said Syrian fighters will be allowed to leave. They comes after all

supply lines to the east of Aleppo had been cut. Charities are warning

of a deepening humanitarian crisis in the city. A lot of you getting in

touch with our -- after our interview about the man put on the

Liverpool care pathway plan. Seeing in hearing how a lovely elderly

gentleman was made to suffer the LCP method for his last days and hours,

my mother was killed in the same way. I had the same experience, my

mother spent a last days after the lot of a Liverpool care pathway, if

I add with this book. And if that each thing is its this is an healthy

he effect you can even those let's catch up with the sport. So

much to look forward to. The Great Britain team arriving in Brazil

ahead of the games. Their training camp is in Belo Horizonte, 273 miles

from Rio, where the games open next Friday. British officials believe

their facilities are the best in the country. Not the individual national

bodies, we are going as Team GB, trying to unite the team, bringing

together to take on the world in the greatest challenge of their lives.

Russian athletes who have not been banned are arriving in Rio. Much

criticism of the IOC, and deposition not to ban the entire Russian team

after a state-sponsored doping programme was uncovered. IOC

president Thomas Bach has been justifying his decision. It is

appreciated, on the one hand, we are sanctioning the system, but on the

other hand, we give athletes who are not part of the system the

opportunity to demonstrate this. Some of today's football stories.

Brendan Rodgers called Celtic's 1-1 draw in their Champions League

qualifier in Kazakhstan outstanding. They went behind early on, but their

hopes of qualifying for the group stages for the first time since 2013

was lifted by Leigh Griffiths' late equaliser. The next leg is next week

in Glasgow. High-profile pre-season friendlies continue all over the

world. Chelsea beat Liverpool, Gary Cahill scoring the only goal of the

game in front of 50,000 people at the Rose Bowl in California. Cesc

Fabregas sent off in the second half for this challenge. Transfer news,

Manchester City are thought to be close to agreeing a fee with Everton

for their defender John Stones. Everton likely to ?150 million for

the 22-year-old, part of England's squad at Euro 2016. He came close to

joining Chelsea last summer. Johanna Konta through to the third round of

the Rogers cup in Montreal. She won her first tour title last weekend.

She beat the American qualifier in straight sets. She will play another

American in the next round. After the tournament she will head to Rio

for the Olympics. One person who will not be there is golf's world

number four, Rory McIlroy. With the USPGA championship darting later in

New Jersey, the former world number one is hoping for a return to form,

after winning four major titles between 2012 and 2014, he has failed

to win one since, but he doesn't believe he's far-away. 2012, three

to 2014, I averaged one major a year. No reason why I cannot do that

for the foreseeable future. That is my benchmark, I feel like I can

attain that, and play my best golf. Sometimes it is hard to come up with

your best golf each and every week, but I feel it is attainable. The

women's British Open is under way at Woburn. Live coverage from one

o'clock this afternoon. Prisons are ill-prepared to deal

with our ageing population, that's according to the Prisons

and Probation Ombudsman who says age-related conditions like dementia

are being overlooked, with prison staff unable to properly

assess or care for older prisoners. The Ombudsman singled out

the example of a 77-year-old inmate who remained handcuffed

while in hospital with pneumonia. His condition deteriorated and yet

he remain handcuffed For more on this story I'm joined

by Peter Dawson, the Deputy Director of the Prison Reform Trust,

Mary Piper - a trustee at the Restore Support Network

which works with older offenders - Ian Weatherhead, Senior

Admiral Nurse with Dementia UK, and Eric Allison,

the Guardian's Prison Correspondent Peter, you are soon to be director

of the Prison Reform Trust. Give us your reaction, to this report? It is

a worrying case. Terribly predictable. We publish a report in

2003 saying this issue was coming because of the number of people

serving longer sentences, older people sentenced for the first time.

It is the fastest-growing section of the prison population. You've

flagged it in 2003, what is being done to tackle the needs? In some

places, really good work. As is so often in prisons, the good work does

not occur everywhere. During that period, the resources available to

prisons to deal with these complex issues, just as complex as the

community, in some ways, more so. Those resources have been cut

erratically by 30% in public prisons in the last three years. The most

precious commodity, time, time to get to know people, to understand

issues, to understand where people's condition may be changing. That is

the commodity we have lost. Your organisation represents older

prisoners, is this something you have been concerned about? Like the

one picked out by the ombudsman today? Yes I'm a trustee of Restore,

a user led organisation for older prisoners. This is a matter of

concern. I am also a medical practitioner, so I would like to put

it into context. Prisons are not islands, they are part of the

community. People who come into prison come from the community.

Prisons, since 2006, all people in prison are NHS patients. Since the

1st of April, 2015, local authorities have a responsibility to

meet the social care needs of people in prison. Of course this is a

worrying report. A deeply distressing event. Prisons are not

there on their own, coping with this. This is a partnership, for the

NHS, and for local authorities to assist. In practice, what are you

seeing, are they working well together?

I think as Peter says, it is patchy. We have only had one year of local

authorities being responsible for social care. There was research by

the Association of directors of social services, which showed that

some prisons are faring people and they are being assessed, but a very

large percentage, still that relationship has to be embedded.

Ian, you are to mention nurse, anyone who has had or had as a

relative with dementia, knows the difficulties of looking after

somebody with dementia. Do you think prison is a place for somebody with

dementia? That is obviously a very difficult question and will depend

on individual to individual. I think if people are developing dementia

within an institution, within a prison setting, one has to look at

that individual as the disease progresses. Prison environments

would cause problems for somebody with dementia. The problem in a

prison is it can be harder to identify compared with a community

setting. Why's that? Because of the structure and the routine. And

because they are not with people who know them well? And we all function

better within our own homes. Are you seeing something which could look

like dementia in prison might not be dementia or that prison could bring

an dementia? It may not bring an dementia but it may not be noticed

because of the routine that people go through on a day-to-day basis. It

is only when different aspects of the illness, different behaviours,

and different idiosyncrasies that somebody may come out with, more

confused, more forgetfulness, inappropriate behaviour, that is

when Sandie may start flagging up there is an issue but it may go

unnoticed for quite a long time. We are also joined by Eric Allison, the

Guardian's prison correspondent. You spent many years in prison and I

know you have contact with older prisoners. Is this something you

have been looking at? Yes, and sadly, the case of this 77-year-old

man is not unusual. Elderly and infirm prisoners who cannot possibly

present a danger routinely handcuffed when they go to prison. I

have come across cases where people have died in handcuffs. Peter, is

prison a place for somebody with dementia? Should someone with

dementia be handcuffed? Two different issues. People get a

sentence from the court. If people are dying, it is possible for people

to be released on compassionate grounds. Governors also have the

power to release people temporarily, and one of the things that the

ombudsman says is that power is not used enough. The handcuffing issue,

it is very reminiscent of debates we had years ago about women who were

pregnant and were being handcuffed. There were a series of cases which

came to light where people said, what on earth are we doing? I think

we should have a sense of deja vu that this should be a wake-up call.

Again, it is down to time. One of the things prison managers are

expected to do is go to a hospital where someone is being cared for and

check if the level of security is appropriate. I cannot believe if a

manager had had time to go out, they would have said this person needs to

be chained up when clearly, they are not only near the end of their life

but also not in a position to escape. When you say about letting

some doubt on a temporary basis, is that for an assessment? It can be to

work, to volunteer, to live. It could be the most compassionate

thing to do for somebody who's not coping well in prison and is near

the end of their life. It is difficult. Some of these people are

serving very long sentences for very serious crimes so there is a

judgment in every case. Could almost see a loophole opening up but if

dementia becomes a ticket out of jail, someone could put on the

symptoms? I do not think that is a real risk. Do you think that is a

risk? I suspect not. I think with the appropriate services and a

psychiatrist with the right expertise going support the prison

staff I think that is a greater reduced risk of that happening.

Mary? I agree. I would like to go back to what you were talking about

before, about dementia and other conditions, and in research

undertaken many years ago, looking at older people in prison, their

mental health, actually 30% of the men in that sample had a depressive

illness, and only a small percentage dementia. I think that from our

perspective, we would want the right services to be available to people

in prison. For older prisoners, just like older people in the community,

to have access to appropriate services with an accurate diagnosis.

Old-age medicine is complex. We had GPs in prison but the older

prisoners should be referred to the specialist services in just the same

way as they would be if they were living in their own home. And Peter,

as you have said, all of that stuff is expensive. Do you see any signs

of this being an issue that will be invested in? The huge dilemma for

the prison service is the work does not match the resources at the

moment. You can either increase the resources or you can reduce the

work, and if we sent people to prison for shorter sentences, and

not so many people, then we would have less work to do and the people

who really needed to be there could get the care they are entitled to.

Thank you for joining us. We unfortunately lost our

communications with Eric after we heard a brief word from him. In a

statement the Ministry of Justice said the

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a day to combat the negative effects a desk job could have

The new nuclear plant to be built at Hinkley Point in Somerset,

is set to get it's final approval later today.

The French firm EDF - which will finance most

of the 18 billion pound project - is holding a board meeting

at which it is expected to approve the investment.

Following that agreement, legally-binding contracts will be

signed and construction work can begin on what will be the UK's first

new nuclear power plant in more than 20 years.

I'm joined by Dr Jenifer Baxter, Head of Energy and Environment

at the Institute of mechanical Engineers and Molly Scott Cato

who is a Green MEP for South West England.

Jennifer, what is your response to this? Broadly speaking, I think it

is important for the nuclear skills in the UK, it brings high value

opportunities for people living in the south-west. And if I can come to

you all so, Molly, what is your reaction? I'm very concerned that in

order to persuade EDF and the Chinese companies, we have had to

offer them a huge price for the electricity and an enormous subsidy

so it will be three times the market price and we are tied into that deal

for 35 years so it will make it more expensive for us to pay our

electricity bills, and will also put pressure on companies who will have

to pay high prices and cannot compete with foreign investors.

There was talk about this not going ahead because of Brexit. It is

clearly seen as a viable proposition? I think Brexit will not

make a significant difference. We are very close to France and we will

continue to work very closely with them as engineers. And in terms of

the costs of the energy that will be produced for consumers, we were

hearing there from Molly concerns about that. What is your view on

that? The cost of electricity depends on a number of factors. It

is not just what a facility is producing but also other types of

electricity coming onto the grid. Over the next ten years it is very

likely we will see a lot of investment and the renewable sector.

It may be that it does not end up being more expensive, but there is

no denying that any large infrastructure project like this

will cost a significant amount of money. Is there a sustainable energy

policy without nuclear in this country? At the moment we are in a

position of transition. This transition has come about because of

some of the consequences of success, and that is pushing large amounts of

renewables onto the grid. At the moment, we cannot quite manage how

they are distributed and at what times of day. We have a very limited

storage window and we are looking at new innovation around demand site

management. We could get to a point where we will be completely

sustained by renewable resources? There will always need to be a base

level and it goes up and down at different times of the day. What we

need to be sure is we don't not have that electricity that all of our

hospitals and critical services are well taken care of. In the future,

looking ten or 15 years away, there will be a lot of changes. We will

learn how to manage the renewables on the grid so very large projects

like Hinckley, we may not need so many in the future. Molly Scott

Cato, when you hear that argument, how would you respond to that? We

could not do it at the moment without a nuclear plant? I agree we

are seeing huge changes and innovations in the renewable market

and energy generally, which is why it is a bad idea to tie ourselves

into this high energy price over 35 years. I am concerned because I

represent the south-west and this is an important investment for

Somerset, but actually, it will only create 900 permanent jobs and

renewables, if we really put our money into them we could create over

120,000 jobs just in the south-west. In terms of making sure the lights

stay on and everything else in the meantime, is there really any other

answer other than this? Hinkley is making it likely we will have an

energy gap because it is an untested technology and it will be ten years

before we get any energy from Hinkley and the two other places

where they have tried to build this reactor have failed and they are

years behind schedule. It will be a good idea to put our future in the

renewables basket. But it is not there now? It absolutely is there

now. Renewable technology is working. We are making it important

advances in terms of storage. The boss of the National Grid himself

has said the baseload concept is an obsolete concept now and we need to

have more diversify technology and focus on matching supply and demand.

Jenifer, Molly says renewable mix our resources less reliable? We are

in a transition point. At times we have too much electricity and we are

paying through consumers at these for companies to turn up and use

that electricity. We are not in a place and there is not likely to be

at any time soon that we will have storage which will last longer than

three or four hours. We do need to have some form of baseload. It can

come from nuclear or fossil fuels. We should have some form of carbon

capture and storage to reduce the amount of carbon dioxide going into

the atmosphere, and nuclear does very well there. It is very low

emissions. Doctor Jenifer Baxter and Molly Scott Cato, thank you both

very much. Judges at the High Court of Scotland

have ruled against the controversial named Person scheme. Judges say some

proposals breach rights to privacy and family life. Our correspondent

Stephen God and is in Edinburgh. Tell us what the thinking was behind

this policy? I think it has been a controversial policy ever since it

was introduced a couple of years ago, voted through unanimously but

since then the controversy has snowballed culminating in today's

decision. I think it is useful to look at the background to this, what

exactly is the named person scheme? You touched on it in your

introduction. It would mean every child from zero to 18 in Scotland

would have a state appointed named person. That would be a teacher or

health visitor who would offer additional support to a family, if

it was felt it was needed. The Scottish Government say it would

provide a vital safety net across communities to ensure that children

don't slip through that net. But opponents of its day it is an

unjustifiable intrusion into family life. The opponents took their

concerns, first of all to the Court of Session here in Edinburgh who

dismissed their concerns and said they were guilty of hyperbole. Then

they took it to the Supreme Court of the UK. The Supreme Court ruling was

today. The judges had two days of evidence in March and since then,

the five judges have spent time considering what they heard over

those two days, and they have given us their judgment. In some ways, it

is a double-edged sword. They have ruled it cannot go ahead in its

current form. They say the aim of act is benign but the problem they

have with it is the way particularly the Scottish Government are

proposing to share information. They say it is unlawful and does not

comply with European Convention on human rights. Those defective

provisions they say mean it cannot be brought into force. What is key

now is the timetable. It was due to come into effect on the 31st of

August, so the end of next month. That cannot now happen. The Scottish

Government have been given 42 days to come up with a timetable which

would mean making the changes which mean the legislation could comply

with the Supreme Court findings. The Deputy First Minister John Swinney

says they are absolutely committed to the policy. Thank you. Still to

come... In the wake of the attacks in France

- some French media say they will no longer publish the names and photos

of terrorists - we want And could your office job be

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Anita. Lloyds has announced it's cutting

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of next year. The bank is part state-owned

and is warning that uncertainty surrounding the Brexit vote

could affect its profits in future. It's already in the middle

of cutting 9,000 posts. The bank reported a ?2.5 billion

pre-tax profit for the half Campaigners have won in the High

Court against the Scottish Cabinet but that as the name of a garden for

each and every child under 18. Opponents argue that the breach the

human rights of parents. Britain's first new nuclear power

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EDF will make its final decision Hinkley Point in Somerset will take

a decade to build and will supply 7% of the UK's electricity

over its lifetime of 60 years. But the project remains

controversial - critics say the UK has guaranteed too high

a price for its power President Hollande says France will

former National Guard to better protect the country from terrorist

attacks. French police have formally

identified the second of the two attackers who killed an elderly

priest in Rouen on Tuesday. He's Abdelmalik Petitjean,

who was 19 and from eastern France. His identity card had been found

in the house of the other attacker, earlier identified as Adel Kermiche

and DNA tests confirmed it was him. He was shot dead by police

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an early death. The medical journal the Lancet has

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already arrived in Brazil Those who have arrived

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sets 7-5, 6-1. Rory McIlroy is hoping to return to

form at the final golf major the season, the USPGA in New Jersey. He

has not biggie-macro majoring two years. --

he has not won major FIFA years. France is still reeling

from the murder of an innocent, defenceless priest, at the hand

of IS terrorists, earlier this week. It's the latest in a string

of attacks on the French people over Now a French Newspaper has announced

it's changing the way it It says it'll no longer publish any

photos of the terrorists responsible, to stop them

from being glorified. It's also refusing to print any

of the propaganda material that terrorists post online,

or any of the claims IS make This is the editorial published

by Le Monde's director For us, this battle cannot be

considered an exclusive cause intelligence agencies

or politicians. This battle concerns

all components of society and primarily our media landscape,

restructured by the After the Nice Attack,

we are publishing no more images of terrorists,

perpetrator of killings We can speak now to

Christian Makarian, who's the editor of L'Express -

a French magazine. And here with me to discuss

the decisions is David Aaronivitch, Rachel Johnson, who writes

for the Mail on Sunday. Jonathan Russell, from

the counter-extremist think tank Qullium, and Jacqui Putnam

who survived the London tube Thank you for joining us. Christian,

you are and editor in France, will you do the same? I don't think so.

Even if there is a very good intention, we can have very many

doubts on the effects of the good intention. The intention is good,

the media does not want to bury their head in the sand. They take

seriously into consideration the possible responsibility of the media

in the Isis propaganda throughout Europe. This is good, showing that

the media does not want to stay apart. They are also part of the

fight against this horrible propaganda. This is for the good

part. I have many doubts. As do many other journalists in Paris. Are we

sure this is a way of reacting against a sophisticated propaganda,

like Isis? In other words, I don't think Isis propaganda is frail, and

can be fought by anonymity. I recall anonymity is thought by people

changing their identity. Going to Syria, they use other passports and

names. They play with identity themselves. I am not sure hiding

their identity or faces is a very efficient way to fight this very

deep propaganda. That works in the minds and the brains. Nevertheless,

I think some of the media has the right to take the decision. Jackie,

you survive the 77 bombings, how do you feel when you see the faces of

terrorists in newspapers? I would not rather not remember them. The

people that should be remembered people who died survive. I don't

think giving them the oxygen of publicity is doing any good. I

understand everyone needs to know who they are, but the general public

do not. The anti-terrorist people do. I don't want to know the name of

a man who killed the priest. Is that because of personal sensitivity, or

wider concerns about what is in the public interest? It is the second. I

don't think it is in the public interest to encourage people to

think if they perpetrate such a terrible event, making this happen,

I don't think it is good to give them the publicity. They seek it. I

would like to deny them that. David, do you think it is right to deny

them? The first responsibility that journalists have in a democracy is

to give people the information, what is going on, tell the truth. I am

afraid to say, other considerations that are important, and sometimes

become pre-eminent, they are usually secondary. The first issue, where

does the logic of this take you. The thing that most sparks people do

acts of terrorism is not that they have been name, but the acts

themselves. Should you give publicity to acts of terror? If you

suppress it, you might not giving people the information they need.

How does the picture gives somebody information present people have a

great deal of curiosity. Giving them the capacity to understand the

location. Even the picture of the person themselves. It will tell them

something about their rage, the kind of person they are. But they think

the cost of showing that picture is some kind of incredible publicity

that otherwise this person would not get, let's say, on the Internet.

Which is actually where probably most of the self sterilising takes

place. Rachel, do you think they should be published? No, I don't. It

was time for a futile gesture, as someone said. I like the fact that

France take the lead, not putting on front pages mugshots of terrorists.

It is contagious. 247 people have died in six countries over the

summer. We cannot name a single number of these people. The killers

have been publicised. Do you think it is the pictures out there? Is the

crisis of toxic masculinity. As will the radicalisation and jihadist

glorification of these men. It is not the 72 virgins in heaven, it is

everybody will be looking at their faces on the front page, that has to

be part of it. Quite right not to put them on. What do you think?

There are two types of jihadists propaganda. The pieces of video

content they will put out, Isis coming through the Internet. The

second propaganda is the propaganda of the deed. In the last 53 days,

with the 72 attacks claimed by jihadists. They know there will be a

constant stream of media attention, causes, motivations, and to the

individuals carrying them out, they know they can stay relevant by

creating something so barbaric and shocking, the media cannot help but

publish it. I'm glad there is a discussion about how they publish

it. How they follow that. Whether there is information so the public

can keep themselves safe. To understand the authorities are

taking appropriate action. I'm glad Le

Monde has taken a stand, saying not gay to glorify you in this way, not

the publicity they crave. What about the fact it is on the Internet

anyway? The social media and Internet aspects is part of this,

too. For them to say they are part of the full-spectrum response. Not

just looking to the security services, the military and the

government to keep us safe, but civil society has a role to play. I

think it is Le temporary standing up saying, it is not just their

response, what can you do? I am not going to publish stills of Isis

propaganda, I am not going to do this, I'm going to remember those

who have died. I'm going to do something productive to turn the

tide I completely understand the impulse

and there are all kinds of places that journalists exercise restraint.

We do it when we report suicide, four example. The first thing is,

you have to be careful where this leads to. It is not actually the

role of the media to do some of the things you have been talking about.

You may wish that we do but actually, the information aspect of

education and democracy is the main functional role of the media. If you

in any substantial way start restricting the information you put

out, because you are afraid of the impact that information may have, in

that case, you are beginning the act of self censorship, which means you

see yourself as part of a mobilised force in society, rather than a

force which looks at that society and reports back to itself. David is

making a Freedom of Information point. It is not as if news agencies

are required by law to put this information in. The editor has

exercised his right to do so. I take the point that if mainstream media

decides to be much more selective about what information it that is

out there, and I think it should, because the daily atrocity factor we

have been living through means we all feel we do not want to go to

France or go to Turkey. It is having a direct impact on people's live as

a result of the media coverage. But if Isis think the mainstream media

will not cover it, they might do other things like streaming of

atrocities and mounted on their own platforms. Let them do that but I do

not like to see it on the front pages. People have a choice about

whether to buy a newspaper or listen to the radio. But it is everywhere.

In America after the Twin Towers fell, the bereaved families had to

join together to ask the media and to get a law, I could be wrong about

whether it is a law or not, but to actually stop them filming, showing

these films again and again and again. And I met a lady whose mother

died on one of the planes, and she worked very hard to make sure that

they could stop this, it is almost a pornography, isn't it? People forget

that these are real lives which have been affected. We need to know these

things are happening but we don't need to glorify the people who are

doing it. I take your point, David, about the democracy and the need to

know and they need to inform, but we don't need to lionise these people,

we don't need to make them into an Isis superstar, we don't. Other

media organisations in France are following Le Monde's decision not to

publish names, how do you guard against the kind of lionise Asian

that we were hearing described there? There are other places making

that decision. But what are we talking about? Changing the rules of

democracy, regarding the media, just because that is supposedly, it has

an effect on, and amplification of Isis propaganda, is also a way to

give Isis a victory inside the media landscape in the democracies. I

think the answer is not simple, I don't say yes or no, I say it is

very complex, to establish a link between their propaganda and what we

call the glorification. I have never seen a newspaper, magazine, TV or

radio in France or refine the murderers, never. So this notion of

glorification has to be defined clearly. That is the first point.

The second point is, personally as a journalist, I refuse to give up and

change the rules of democracy, just because it can have this or that

type of effect that I cannot evaluate. So it also has to be taken

in consideration, in this crucial debate, and finally, the last

argument, these people, are we sure that they look for fame? Or do they

look for blood? You can say that fame can help them to make more

massacres of things like that, but you have to demonstrate it. Is that

their propaganda is very sophisticated. It is in their way of

thinking, or in their way of not thinking, but it is very difficult

to fight just with a question of image. It has to be found by the

media, in the core of it, in the way it works, for instance, there is a

crucial fact which is the age of the murderers. They are all very young

people. This has to be examined. And on that point, the fact they are

young people, the fact that the names and pictures are out there,

that a lot of digging goes on about the lives behind these people who

have committed whatever they have committed and stories emerge about

the lives which are perhaps that odds with the message they want to

put out, which is it is being done in the name of religion, the sort of

reasons that are put out there? That is right. And while the French press

has been responsible historically on this point, we have to remember that

right here in the UK, we live streamed a press conference in which

an organisation called jihadi John a beautiful young man. We had a

magazine, Rollingstone Magazine put the Boston bomb up on its front

cover and called him the bomber as if he was some sort of music star.

It is outrageous? Should that be banned? Dodig should be banned and I

don't think it is the job of governments or press regulators to

say this is how you should do it, but within a free speech debate, I

think media editors can take that decision themselves, and if they

want to be responsible within that, just as they do want covering

stories of suicide, that is fine, and should be encouraged, and should

be replicated if they can on social media as well. This is why it has to

be taken out of the government 's fear and into the public debate as

we are doing now. A lot of people getting in touch. Jay says we should

certainly name these murdering terrorists, the more we know, the

better we can protect ourselves. Another says all media should not

publicise anything to do with Isis or any organisation, a total media

blackout needed. Thank you for your comments and thank you for joining

us as well. Some news just coming

in to us this morning. Stockport's Stepping Hill hospital

has confirmed that it's to cut 350 full time jobs and close a ward due

to budget pressures. The hospital is ?40 million

in deficit and plans The hospital trust says it's hoping

the posts can be lost How many times do you get up

from your desk and go for a walk - even if it's just to grab some fresh

air during your lunch? Well, not enough according

to new research. It's found that doing at least one

hour of "brisk walking" each day, could offset the risks of early

death linked to a Let's talk to Lauretta Johnnie,

a personal trainer and the founder of Full Figured Fitness

and Lucy Wilkinson, a senior cardiac nurse at the British Heart

Foundation. Thank you both for joining us. What

do you make of this research, do you think we are spending too much time

at our desks and it is damaging our health, the researchers are saying

more than smoking? It is interesting looking at these large reports and

the suggestion that an hour of brisk walking could offset the eight hours

of sitting at a desk a day. It is a subject that we need to approach.

Physical inactivity is a huge problem worldwide. The World Health

Organisation says it is the fourth leading risk factor for mortality

worldwide. It is something we need to address and we need to make it

accessible to people and we need people to think, I'm sitting here

for eight hours and I need to do something to counteract that and it

needs to be through physicality. OK, Lauretta, you have brought some kit

in. You can see by their posture that they sit in chairs for a long

time. When we get to the stage of having physical pain we think we

should address it so we should start addressing it now. So you need to

think about your posture but that will not improve your fitness?