27/07/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling,

Terror in France, the man who murdered a French priest was being

monitored by Security Services. President Hollande is holding talks

with religious leaders to discuss It's an army scandal

that won't go away - the deaths of four young recruits

at Deepcut Barracks. Their families disagree

with findings of suicide and, amid claims of bullying

and abuse, are pushing We speak to Stewart Thompson

who says he had a nervous breakdown What would you do if your feared

your child was being radicalised? Children's charity the NSPCC has set

up a helpline that will give parents Hello, welcome to the programme,

we're live until 11 this morning. Do get in touch on all

the stories we're talking about this morning -

use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and if you text, you will be charged

at the standard network rate. It's emerged one of the men

who murdered a catholic priest in Normandy yesterday

was being monitored by police. Adel Kermiche was wearing

a surveillance tag but it was switched off every morning as part

of the conditions of his probation. The 19-year-old and a fellow

attacker stormed the church in a suburb of Rouen,

during morning Mass. President Francois Hollande

is meeting religious leaders this morning to discuss the wave

of Islamist terror attacks. On the steps of the town hall

in the quiet suburb of Rouen, local people lit candles

and left flowers last night. They were remembering the local

priest, Fr Jacques Hamel, His killers, who took members of

the congregation hostage, seriously injuring one, were

shot dead by police. One of them has been named

as 19-year-old Adel Kermiche, As police searched his

parents' house, where he lived, officials revealed

he was arrested twice last year trying to reach Syria

to join so-called IS. He spent time in prison,

but was released on probation That kept him under

virtual house arrest. But French prosecutors said

the attack occurred during a period each

morning when the tag TRANSLATION: He told us

he tried to go to Syria twice, once through Switzerland,

then through Turkey, but he failed. We tried to bring him to his senses,

but every time we did he was This terror attack in a French

Catholic church has brought renewed advice from UK police chiefs for

places of worship to review their The National Police Chiefs Council

says while there is no specific intelligence

relating to attacks here, it has issued security advice

to Christian places of Our correspondent Adam

Fleming is in Rouen. How are people reacting to this

latest attack? People are kind of going about their morning routine,

buying bread and visiting the supermarkets, most of which were

closed yesterday. But look at the newspaper people are waking up to,

the regional newspaper, the Horror, above a picture of police leaving

the church after that attack that happened almost exactly 24 hours

ago. Last night people were leaving candles, notes and flowers and

they're growing those tributes and a few steps away, outside the home of

Father Jaques Hamel, tributes from neighbours and a note saying you

were a wonderful priest. People are still shocked about what happened

and I think the big political and security implications that they're

discussing in Paris haven't sunk in, in the local community. What are the

security implications? France has been on a state of emergency for

some time, what more can the French authorities do in terms of

reassuring people about security? That is what is being discussed at a

meeting in Paris, being chaired by Francois Hollande. He is speaking to

his cabinet, having spoken to his security advisors, we don't expect

any big announcements or changing to security arrangement that have been

there for a few months. There is a state of emergency and the

authorities have more powers to detain people and a huge extra

number of armed police and military personnel. There is a political

discussion about whether that state of emergency should be extended and

the big political issue is that the security organisations here knew

about at least one of the attackers from yesterday, the 19 named as

Adele Kermiche. He had tried to travel to Syria twice last year and

failed and been returned twice. He was imprisoned for a bit and then

released on condition he wore an electronic tab and abided by a

curfew. That curfew did not cover breakfast time to lunch time and the

tag was switched off then, that meant he could carry out the attack

here. President Francois Hollande had a meeting with faith leaders to

send a message that this was an attack on all of France, not just

the Catholic church. I have been sent details about what happened. A

representative of the French council of Muslim faith spoke of his grief

and disbelief about what happened and he suggested there might be

reforms required to the institutions of Islam in France. What that means,

we don't know. It will be interesting to see what the Muslim

community says. A representative from the Catholic church said the

harmonious relationship between the faiths in France is important and we

can't let Islamic State play their political games on us. I'm hearing

that the city of St Etienne devouf ray opened an advice centre that

will remain open today. Now the rest of the day's news.

The overtime bill for hospital consultants has risen by more

A BBC investigation has found that one doctor earned an extra ?375,000

Here's our health correspondent Dominic Hughes.

Once this was carried out by a consultant.

If they were working overtime that was expensive.

Now, it is done by nurses, keeping finances under control,

freeing up consultants to treat complex cases.

The main benefit is as an organisation we have less

financial pressure because we don't have to pay a premium pay rates.

Working together, we can solve some tricky problems

Many other hospitals face a rising bill for consultant payments.

Across the UK extra overtime cost ?168 million last year,

an increase of one third in two years.

One doctor made nearly ?375,000 in 12 months at a trust

where a shortage of consultants means a heavy workload.

There is too much demand and there are not enough

consultants, so what you're trying to do is ask a workforce already

stretched beyond its limit to do even more.

It is simply an effect of too much demand and too few consultants.

The changes in place at Wigan demonstrate it is possible to cut

NHS managers hope negotiations on a new contract for consultants

We're being warned about a possible spike in immigration to the UK

in the lead-up to Britain's withdrawal from the European Union.

MPs on the Home Affairs Committee are urging the government

to set a cut-off date for when EU citizens in the UK would be

Here's the committee's chairman Keith Vaz.

The possibility of a surge will be very real.

And, at the end of the day, you will be dealing with people

who arrive in this country in good faith but who are then told

The pharmaceutical company GlaxoSmithKline has

announced it's investing two-hundred-and-seventy-five million

pounds in its existing UK sites - potentially creating

GSK had warned before the EU referendum that Brexit would be "bad

However it now says the UK remains an attractive location.

Hillary Clinton has become the first woman to be nominated for US

She was endorsed by the Democrats at their National Convention

There were protests by supporters of the defeated

But former President Bill Clinton said his wife was the "best

This was a night of electrifying moments and powerful emotions.

State delegates casting their votes in the roll call.

Georgia delegates are proud to cast 29 votes for Senator Bernie Sanders.

And 87 votes for the next president of the United

Official business became deeply personal for many.

And I move that Hillary Clinton be selected as the

nominee of the Democratic party for president of the United States.

Senator Sanders says move in the spirit of unity.

To suspend the rules and nominate Hillary Clinton

by acclamation as the presidential candidate of the

Hillary is uniquely qualified to seize the

opportunities and reduce the risks we face, and she is still the best

The energy and enthusiasm here tonight

are a huge relief to Hillary Clinton and the Democratic party.

It took a lot of work to get here, but this is

the show of unity they were hoping for.

Thanks to you and to everyone who has fought so hard to make this

possible. This is really your victory,

The convention continues, but Mrs Clinton is ready

One of Mrs Clinton's supporters at the convention

was the actress Meryl Streep, who began her speech by convention,

starting her speech by letting out a scream on the podium.

But we are not hearing anything there! But she went on to praise

women and Mrs Clinton saying it takes grit and grace to be the fist

female anything. Counsellors working for the NSPCC

are being trained to help parents who fear their children

are being radicalised. The charity says it's

received a number of calls It's advisers are being primed

to spot the warning signs if a youngster is risk such

as isolating themselves and talking The mother-in-law of Formula One

boss Bernie Ecclestone is reported The criminals are said

to be demanding a ransom 67-year-old Aparecida Schunck,

the mother of Mr Ecclestone's third wife, was seized from her home

in the city of Sao Paulo on Friday. There's been no comment

from Mr Ecclestone or his wife, Police in Brazil are releasing few

details, saying the situation Two people were hurt

when an unmarked police car on an emergency call crashed

into customers sitting outside The vehicle and another

car had collided One man suffered non-life

threatening injuries, while a woman was treated

for minor injuries. That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 9.30. Now some sad breaking news from

South Wales police that a four-year-old boy has died in a

house fire in the early hours of this morning.

Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged

Doping cases will be fast tracked at the Olympic Games after the Court

of Arbitration for Sport announced it will open offices in Rio to deal

For the first time at a games, it will hear cases and appeals,

and have the power to impose sanctions.

Speaking to the BBC the Russian whistleblower Yuliya Stepanov,

who was banned for doping before exposing state sponsored doping

in Russia, outlined the pressure athletes are put under to dope.

You didn't really have a choice. If you wanted to be a member of the

national team, if you wanted to compete internationally, that's the

only way the coaches and sports officials in athletics were offering

to you, was the use of doping. I guess on a bigger picture, did you

have a choice? Yes, you do have a choice, either you follow the system

or you leave the system. Roger Federer is out

of the Olympics. He has a knee injury which means

he won't play again this season. The world number three says he needs

"more extensive rehabilitation" The 34-year-old was last seen

at Wimbledon when he lost British number one Johanna Konta

is through to the second round of the Rogers Cup in Montreal

after a straight-sets win over The 25-year-old,

who won her first WTA Tour title on Sunday,

claimed victory in one hour and 21 The world number 14 will play

American Vania King Argentina striker Gonzalo Higuain

has become the third most expensive footballer in history -

signing for Juventus from Napoli Higuain's 36 goals last

season helped Napoli Gareth Bale at ?85million

and Cristiano Ronaldo at ?80million pounds are the only

more expensive players. Juventus might get more money back

with the world record sale But the huge amount of money. That

is all the sport, more at 9:30pm -- 9:30am.

It was supposed to be the start of a promising military career,

but for four young recruits at Deepcut barracks, it ended

The deaths happened between 1995 and 2002, amid claims

Whilst the Army treated all of the deaths as suicides,

each of the families disagreed, leading to the families pushing

In a moment we'll meet Stewart Thompson

who was at Deepcut during that time and says the bullying he witnessed

But first let's remind ourselves what happened at Deepcut.

Over the years, thousands of army recruits have gone through

Deepcut Barracks in Surrey for their basic army training.

Between 1995 and 2002, four young army recruits

died from gunshot wounds in unexplained circumstances at

They were 20-year-old Sean Benton, 18-year-old Cheryl James,

17-year-old Geoff Gray and another 17-year-old, James Collinson.

The deaths came amid claims of widespread abuse and bullying at

The army treated all of the deaths as suicides, but each of the

The families pushed to have a fresh inquest into

In February of this year, there was a second inquest

Last month it concluded she took her own

life, but acknowledged there was a highly sexualised culture at

There were also serious failings in the care and supervision

A recent ruling means there may be a fresh inquest into

Stewart Thompson was only 20 years old when he was at Deepcut

He was there at the same time as Private Sean Benton who died

of five gunshot wounds to his chest in 1995.

After leaving the military, Stewart began to suffer flashbacks

and underwent four months of therapy to help deal with the trauma

He's never spoken about what he experienced until now

and is with us today for his first ever interview.

Thank you very much for coming and talking about what happened. Take us

back, first of all, to when you arrived at Deepcut, a 20-year-old

recruit, presumably optimistic about what your future might be in the

Army. We arrived full of hope and excited. I think the issue for

recruits was, the place felt like at the motion when it should have felt

like an elevation. It was labelled as second phase training, you

deserved to be there, you'd gone through basic training, but it was

far more difficult and that was unsettling for a lot of people. They

did not cope well with it and it was very difficult. When I compare the

first regime to the regime at Deepcut, it was far more brittle,

the brutality was insidious. Whereas before, if you made a mistake you

were punished and you expected that. Looking at pictures of you when you

arrived at Deepcut. Six years after that, you had a breakdown and you

put it down to what you experienced at Deepcut. You were talking about

the brutality you experienced and how it was different to what you had

experienced before. Why was it you pinpointed in that period for the

breakdown? It happened when I was at university in the early to

thousands. At that point, it started to appear more in the media -- the

early 2000s. I had not thought about it for years, I started having

nightmares about it, winking about the people I have met, I was not

targeted personally, I was very fit, one of the fittest there. But the

problem was a lot of people were targeted and they were bullied and

they were targeted by the instructors, singled out, people

came to my room, a lot of the younger recruits, the kids there

were 17, 18, some of them could not look after themselves. Personal

hygiene was an issue for them. People came to my room to ask for

help. It was a crazy period, literally people were hiding under

the bed is to escape the instructors. They would do anything

to escape from the regime. I include myself, I was a squaddie at the same

time as Sean Benton because I failed my category C licence. That was

driving? It was a driving course. I was sent back to Deepcut in March so

I spent almost six months there. A long time. It was that second time

when I arrived back there in March, the regime had changed, it was

harder, I didn't know anybody there. It was the kind of place where you

did not make friends with people very easily because everybody was

paranoid. So, Sean died later of gunshot wounds and we will talk more

about him in a moment but first, tell us exactly the sort of things

you saw. You said you were not personally picked out for

ill-treatment but you saw it going on. What were the worst things you

saw? We got pulled out of her bed at midnight, you had to wear your smart

uniform, you were put on parade at 1am for no apparent reason, and it

was during some of those parades that some of the instructors

physically hits and abused recruits for no reason. Things like that

happened in the 70s and 80s but by the time it got to the 90s, I

believed the military had changed and instructors were not allowed to

touch recruits, but it did happen at Deepcut and I witnessed it. It

happened to several people. When you go from military training you

expected to be difficult. What was it that crossed the line between

that and something you and others found much harder and darker to deal

with? I think it was, as I touched on at the beginning, because it was

second phase training a lot of people were confused. The first one

was difficult but you expected that. It is military training, it is not

supposed to be easy. You expect that. The Deepcut facility was built

up to be a place of education, which it was, and this place of promise

and promotion, but it was not like that, you were often treated like...

You were dehumanised, no identity, no freedom. Not allowed to leave the

camp during the week. You could only leave it at the weekends unless you

were on guard duty. There were no locks so anybody could walk in at

any time so it was a completely different atmosphere. That confused

people because you expected it to be a better place because it was the

place where you were sent to learn your job. Some of the things that

have emerged previously in an independent review into the deaths

have included things like an instructor riding a bicycle over a

recruit, because they were too fat, trainees having razor blades put in

their boots, individuals being slapped, kicked or punched. What

about the other things? I did not see any other things like that. It

was insidious because it was unexpected, the instructors singled

out people, they did it privately in rooms, often a lot of people were

not there. The violence and brutality was very controlled and

calculated, this is why you've probably had different versions from

different people. We all experienced something very differently. For me,

it got so bad that I had a small group of friends, and we locked each

other in cupboards. It was the only place they could not access because

it was your private property. You had the key so you could only locket

from the outside. We will block each other in the cupboard. -- lock it. I

literally spent hours in one because we had an agreement to take it in

turns. Why would you do that? It was to escape the daily activities,

which were meaningless. At the first facility, doing the basic training,

everything was systematic and there was a reason for everything, whether

it was physical training, on the Rangers, learning to use a rifle,

nuclear, chemical, biological warfare. At Deepcut it was not like

that. During the day you would have a parade early in the morning then

people would split into different groups, some people would be washing

clothes, some would-be peeling potatoes, some would be cutting

grass, others would be doing physical training, others would just

be messed about on parade, guard duty, cleaning rifles. It had no

meaning to it, it was completely chaotic and psychologically it was

tiring and mentally it was tiring so, we would hide in the ceiling at

the top, the rafters, you could climb up and put them back and the

instructors could not find you. There were only a few people there.

Doing something like that is extreme but when you're talking about the

daily duties which sound more mundane than anything, it is hard to

understand why that led to such an extreme reaction. Can you go back to

the state of mind you were feeling at that time and that everybody else

was feeling around you. Were you aware you were buckling under

pressure? I don't think so because we were very young, and people did

not understand, they expected and tolerated it because it was the

military. It was only years later that you started to think, that was

not right, it was strange, even at the time it did not feel right but

you were in so much stress and could not really speak to anybody. The

first time I arrived it was slightly easier because I arrived with

friends from my group, but when I was sent back and arrived at the cut

I did not know anybody. There was one other person, there was only two

of us left. It was paranoia, you were isolated, did not know people

and could not trust people, some of the recruits bleed other recruits as

well. Much of it was about team-building and if you made a

mistake the instructors punished everybody in the group. It was to

foster team-building. Often the recruits that struggled for bullied

by other recruits. They would either push them to leave the army order to

improve -- or to improve. I mentioned you were there at the same

time as Sean Benton. An inquest recorded a verdict of suicide,

though his family have questioned that and are in the process of

trying to get a second inquest. The report that looked at what had been

going on at Deepcut by Nicholas Blake QC concluded there was no

evidence that Sean had been bullied before his death nor that he had

complained of it. Any over harsh discipline to which he may have been

subjected did not cause him to take his life. Do you accept that? Not at

all. I disagree. I did not know her on a personal level but I knew him

well because we were there at the same time. In a weird sense, we had

parallel lives because we both were sent to another facility at the same

time, we failed the category C licence, sent back to Deepcut. I

witnessed Sean being singled out and he was constantly punished, often

for no reason evidently. Even his reputation preceded him. You could

see them walking across the field running across the field with an

instructor shouting behind him. I watched him, the way his personality

changed from when I first met him. He changed. Ncht In fact I spoke to

him before his death and he was a come laetly different person. He w

stuttering in his speech. I can't remember the conversation, but I

remember him complaining and he was angry and stressed and criticising

the trainers and he changed as a person. So I don't accept the

inquest report that he wasn't bullied. I think it contributed to

his death. You didn't talk about your experiences at Deepcut for a

long time. You had a break down six years on. You spoke earlier about

what triggered that, it was seeing it being talked about around you.

Why didn't you talk about it? It was a difficult subject to talk about.

Even at Deepcut you didn't really share what you were going through,

because you couldn't, you were in that environment where you couldn't

really speak to anybody F you spoke about it, it should show weakness

and you would be exposed. You were a recruit and you had to be tough and

there wasn't anybody to speak to. Certainly six or seven years later,

it was... It was hard for me to talk about. It was something I didn't

want to share with other people. I didn't want to burden them. By that

time we had issues in Afghanistan, the war in Afghanistan had kicked

off and Iraq was starting to start as well. So it just didn't seem

appropriate to talk about it at that point. Because there were soldiers

being killed in Afghanistan and things like that. So I just bottled

it up and... You know I had the break down. You have said nothing

you dit was as -- did was as bad as Deepcut. You went to the front line?

Yes, I was logistics and ended up being sent to an ammunition depot in

Warwickshire and I served in the war in Bosnia and Germany. So Deepcut

was worse than Bosnia? But, it seems odd to say, Bosnia was great, you

had great time, you were treated with respect and professionally, you

know, my job was ammunition supply specialist. So it was, that was a

great career, but Deepcut was different. It was like a prison. It

was a completely different place. Would you like there to be a public

inquiry? Yes. I can... Looking in hind sight, I ups I understand the

instructors were short staffed and had issues, but that doesn't justify

it. There were some instructors said they had the recruits' best

interests at heart. But I don't accept that. I witnessed them being

bullied for no reason, or they were... Forced to do things that

didn't have a reason. Some might say if you can't sort of deal with the

really tough regime, maybe you shouldn't be in the military. What

would you say to that? Yes, I can accept that. People make mistakes

and you're told to stand to attention and put your back against

the wall and carry heavy items or you're doing press ups. That is

fine. Per bright was difficult. But Deepcut was like a demotion and it

should have been an elevation. You were treated worse than you were at

in basic training. Some of the kids that were there, were 17 or 18,

psychologically for them to feel they were demoted and dehumanised

was psychologically difficult to deal with. If that was how the

regime was planned, then it doesn't make sense to me. At all. Kylie said

the bravery of Stewart this morning is admirable. Another says I'm ex-a

Stewart should be listened to. Another says I'm sympathetic, but

the pressure would be higher on the front line. Trevor said I did my

basic training at Deepcut and some bullying, but plenty of us get

through it OK. I got through it OK. Just because you cope that doesn't

necessarily mean that inside you're coping. Out wardly people are fine

but you might not be. I was great. I had a good military career. I left

the military with a great record. But it was, the regime was brutal

and it was... It was unaccountable. It didn't seem normal. I can accept

yeah, it's got to be difficult, this is thousand front line is -- how the

front line is. But there were four deaths there. There needs to be an

inquest into those. As far as I'm aware, they were not the inquests at

the time were not conducted properly. There have been inquests

and a subsequent inquest into one death and potentially another will

be re-opened. Thank you for coming in and joining us.

Well, we asked the Ministry of Defence for their response

"General Sir Nick Carter, the head of the Army,

has publicly committed to improving the Army's culture to ensure

that the Army is demonstrably inclusive, that it respects

difference and is a beacon of equality of opportunity."

Still to come: The BBC reveals NHS consultants are racking up

thousands in overtime, one doctor pocketed an extra

?375,000 last year on top of their salary.

As France suffers yet another Islamist terror attack -

we'll speak to people living in the country

President Francois Hollande will meet religious leaders this

morning to discuss the wave of Islamist terror

It's emerged that one of the attackers who killed

an 85-year-old Catholic priest at his church in Rouen had been

wearing an electronic tag, but it was turned off

Churches in the UK have been warned by police to review

The UK product has combroun by 6%. We will get more on this with our

business correspondent. Spending on high-cost overtime has

risen by more than a third One doctor in Lancashire

made an extra ?375,000 in high-cost overtime on a shortage

of consultants amid rising demand. The Department of Health wants

to tackle the issue by renegotiating Hillary Clinton has become the first

woman in US history to be nominated She was endorsed by

the Democrats at their National There were protests from the

supporters of the defeated candidate.

We're being warned about a possible spike in immigration to the UK

in the lead-up to Britain's withdrawal from the European Union.

MPs on the Home Affairs Committee are urging the government

to set a cut-off date for when EU citizens in the UK would be

Counsellors working for the NSPCC are being trained to help parents

who fear their children are being radicalised.

The charity says it's received a number of calls

It's advisers are being primed to spot the warning signs

if a youngster is risk such as isolating themselves and talking

A four-year-old boy has died in a house fire in south Wales. The

emergency services were called this morning. The boy's mother and sister

managed to escape. Police are investigating the cause of the

blaze. That is a summary of the latest news. More at 10 o'clock.

Thank you. Now the sport with John. For the first time doping

cases will be heard at an Olympic games by the court

of arbitration for sport. They've taken the step

to open offices in Rio, in light of the ongoing doping

crisis in Russian Sport, so that they can issue

sanctions and hear appeals. The governing bodies offencing and

gymnastics are cleared the Russian teams to appear in Rio. We will have

more on this at 10 o'clock. Roger Federer is out of the Olympics

- The World Number Three has a knee injury which means he wont

play again this season. He said he needs more extensive

rehabilitation if he wants The British No 1 Johanna Konta is

through to the next round in Montreal. The sing Thank you. See

you later. In the last few minutes the latest

GDP - or Gross Domestic Product - What these stats show

is whether there's been any increase in the total value of the goods

and services we provide. It was expected that the economy

would have grown by 0.4% in the second quarter of this year

compared to the first. So that's April, May and June

compared to January, These numbers, however,

only have a week's worth of data post the UK voting

to leave the European Union. Our Business Correspondent Ben

Thompson is here to simplify Firstly, what are

the latest figures? 0.6% for the the three months to the

end of June. It is better than we thought and better than the quarter

before. So that tells us a few things. It says is all the fear

about whether we were putting off making decisions is, businesses were

not hiring, the economy was not growing in the run up to the

referendum is not really true. It is not great as a figurers but better

than the quarter before and it suggests that businesses were not as

worried about the referendum as many said. It shows which parts of the

economy were growing. The services sector, that is our biggest part of

the economy, grew by half a 1%. Manufacturing grew by 2%. It is good

news for factories that are making things. But construction fell a bit

by 0.4% and agriculture was down by 1% F you put them together it gives

that figure of growth of 0.6% and suggests things are better before

the referendum than many would have us believe. But we just had one week

of post Brexit reality. So sit will probably be worth looking at the

next set of figures. What does this picture indicate about what we can

expect going forward? It is interesting, it tells us whether we

are facing the future out side Europe from a position of strength

or weakness. We are in a better condition, the economy is stronger

than we thought. So things are looking better. But it also gives us

an indication about what the Bank of England and the Government might be

thinking. We know we have reined back from the austerity policies

from the previous Chancellor and things could look different. But

interest rates too, the Bank of England held off cutting interest

rates a couple of weeks ago, because they said it wasn't clear what the

effect on the economy was of the vote. A lot of expectation is next

week, it could vote to lower interest rates to a quarter of 1%.

We will still have to wait and see. Is it less likely based on these

figures? Yes, the debate in the City is it is a lagging indicator, and we

want to look forward f you cut interest rates, it takes three month

force that to have an effect what. The Bank of England will be doing is

take account of what we have seen and they will be thinking, if they

cut interest rates next week, it will take three months to affect the

money in our pockets and they are juggling a lot of things. We should

say it is just the initial view of GDP and it is based on a small

amount of data and as time goes on we have more data and it could be

the figure is revised, but we are paying attention to us, because it

gives us an indication of what position we are in Thank you. trusts

Coming up: trusts What would you do if you feared your child

Children's charity, the NSPCC, has set up a helpline that will give

As President Hollande meets religious leaders of different

faiths to discuss the way forward after the latest in a wave

of Islamist terror attacks in France, the world

at the murder of a priest celebrating mass.

It's the latest way the country has been targetted in what seems to be

this morning, a French Muslim leader has deplored the murder of the

priest, saying it went against all the teachings of Islam.

Sister Danielle, a nun who was in the church in Rouen

when yesterday's attack happened described

It was fear, especially when they entered. When I saw them, I said to

myself, that's it, it is over. They were so motivated, they told me, you

Christians, you kill us. Jack had just celebrated his Mass. They took

his place and started preaching in Arabic. They forced him to kneel and

told him not to move. He loved all people, regardless of religion. That

is all I can say. A faithful priest who loved everybody.

has suffered a series of shocking militant attacks.

In January 2015, gunmen opened fire at the offices of the satirical

A Jewish supermarket was later attacked -

In June last year, a man was beheaded by a militant,

who then tried, unsuccessfully, to blow up a a gas plant

Last November - a series of gun and bomb attacks

took place in Paris at several restaurants and at the Bataclan

A month ago, an off-duty police officer

and his wife were stabbed to death at their home in the

suburb of Magnanville, to the West of the capital.

a Tunisian national drove a lorry into crowds who'd gathered to watch

84 people died, several of them children.

Peter Chesley is an English expat living in Nice,

who was on the promenade when the attacker

Then in Paris we have the French journalist Anne-Elisabeth Moutet

and also in Paris is Mahruk Arif, a Muslim student and Father Aidan

Troy from St. Joseph's Church.

Thank you all for joining us. It had emerged that one of the men

suspected of killing the priest was actively being monitored by the

security services, was wearing a tag but it had been switched off in the

morning. How are people reacting to that news? I think she has frozen.

I'm not sure she can hear me. Let's go... Politicians have said this

latest attack is an attempt by extremists to stir up religious war

in France. How are you feeling? We are all afraid to live in such a

world. The Muslims here, the French population as a whole, they are

feeling bad because the terror attacks have multiplied. We feel we

are not living in a safe environment anymore. The president has said it

is vital that people Remain united in the face of efforts to divide

them. Do you feel like there's an atmosphere of solidarity? I think

there's a strong sense of unity in France especially from civil

society. What we've seen, I belong to the Muslim community and what we

have done on a personal scale is we've gone to those places and put

flowers, should solidarity with the victims. -- we have showed. Peter,

you were there in Nice when the Bastille Day attack happened. Every

time there is something else I guess it hits you possibly harder than

anybody caught up in something previously, even harder. Yes. There

have been so many attacks in France recently, it has been quite bad

here, and obviously being personally involved in the Nice attack was

pretty bad. I can now understand the people that go through these kinds

of events around the world. When the Prime Minister came to Nice, he was

booed. There was anger because extra security was turned down for the

Bastille Day celebrations but also the person who drove the truck was

on the radar. Do you feel confident that everything that is being done

to keep people safe is being done? I don't know too much about what

France could have done to prevent this. If they should have done more.

A lot of people in Nice are angry that not enough was done, there were

some major weaknesses in the security. On the other hand, I'm

quite impressed by how quickly they reacted, the French police reacted

to this. The police eventually shot the guy and stopped more things

happening. I think there are pros and cons to security like this, more

could be done and I just hope they learn from this and they don't make

the same mistakes. What are the authorities looking at in terms of

what the security should be? There has been a state of emergency in

France for some time now. There is a state of emergency and they can

search they are nights -- they can search homes all the time, but what

do you do when you have got a list of 11,000 people, 2000 of whom are

supposed to be in contact with Islamic State? How can you watch

them all? In the case of the killer of the priest, even though he was

under what, how can you detect that he is suddenly going to take this

step and go on to a murderous spree? That being said, the people are

understandably angry and I think they want more measures to be taken.

You are at a church in Paris. How do you react to this? My reaction is

one of total sadness for the priest, his family, his parishioners, all

those people who've lost a great friend and a great colleague, it is

just shocking. That is all you can say. Do you think there should be

greater security measures around churches? I think there has to be

greater security after yesterday, but I heard your previous

contributors, it is true, you cannot guaranteed total security. I was a

priest in Belfast during some heavy conflict. You can only do so much.

You need to make a radical decision, either you can stay open, but

closing down for any community is just not an option. I feel we have

to work closely together and do more. But it is important. I

honestly believe you cannot have total security. Are you fearful that

there is an attempt to stalk a religious war? I think, I am a

little bit cautious about going down the language of war. Where I am, we

will be encouraging... We have lost the line there. The connection keeps

dropping out. What would you like the authorities to do to make people

feel safe? They have done what ever they could, we've had the emergency

state extended. What more can you do? It is true that you cannot

detect somebody who has been radicalised, but still, the

population wants to be safe and feel safe so maybe the alternative and

the way forward is to be found within civil society and those small

acts of kindness. When Muslim people join question people and build

interfaith harmony. That is how we can look forward to a more peaceful

society. How much scrutiny is there of the history in France and why it

is in this situation? It would be a mistake to say that you need to look

at the history of France or any other Western nation and ask what

happened? People say, Muslims are rejected and not integrated but if

you look, they are as integrated as you can be. His mother is a teacher,

a civil servant, they are happy family, they live in the

countryside, outside the ghettos. This is blaming the victim, it is

saying it is your fault if you are getting raped because your skirt is

too short. Nothing justifies the acts of terror that we are seeing.

There is a will imposed on France from outside France, there is a will

imposed on Europe from outside Europe. We must keep the

cohesiveness of society but never start asking ourselves what we have

done. We have not done anything. Thank you for joining us. Do let us

know your thoughts on that and everything else we are talking

about. Coming up later... That was four years ago today.

Exactly four years since the opening ceremony of the London Olympics.

Martin Green, the man in charge of that, talks to us. Now the weather.

Good morning. If you're wondering whether he has gone -- where the

heat has gone, it is the other side of the Atlantic, touching 100

Fahrenheit in New York. It is very humid and sticky. The heat wave in

the West is different, it is much drier and it leads to wildfires. We

seen those raging in California. Very to control because the heat

generates wind patterns. This wind pattern is coming in off the

Atlantic. The Atlantic is bringing cloud, and some rain. The heavier

rain is out over the North Sea. We could spark off some heavy showers.

For most of us it is improving. Cloud and rain and a pleasant day to

come in the north-east of Scotland. As it brightens up after that

earlier rain in the south-east, we could see potentially thundery

showers. A lot of places are dry. For most of the country it will be a

sunny end to the day. Still a chance of a little rain wandering into the

North of Scotland. The next series of rain coming in from off the

Atlantic arriving into Northern Ireland later on into the night.

Probably a fresh start to the day tomorrow with some sunshine across

eastern areas but in the West we've got cloud and rain, quite a wet

start. Coming into western parts of England and Wales, Sherry rain --

showers pushing in. It will be wet for southern Scotland. We should

have some sunshine and showers. This area of low pressure is bringing

this wet weather. Sunshine and showers. This weather front is

focusing on some heavy showers for southern counties on Friday. Into

the weekend, we will have that north-westerly breeze, it will mean

some colder nightspot in the sunshine it will still feel warm. --

cold nights. It is Wednesday, it is 10 o'clock,

welcome to the programme. Coming up: Terror in France -

religious leaders there are calling for tougher security at places

of worship after the murder One of the killers was supposed

to be under security monitoring. Stewart Thompson was a soldier

at a training barracks where four young recruits took their lives -

he says what he witnessed at Deepcut led him to have a nervous

breakdown and that nothing was as bad as his time there -

he told us his story For me, it got so bad I had small

group of friends and we used to lock each other in cupboards, the

cupboard was in Deep was the only place the instructors couldn't

access and it had a lock and you had a key. You could only lock it from

the outside and we would lock each other in the cupboard. I spent hours

in the dark in a cupboard that one of the others had locked me in. We

had an agreement to take it in turns.

of that interview back on our programme page.

What would you do if you feared your child was being radicalised?

The Children's charity, the NSPCC, has set up a helpline that will give

It's emerged one of the men who murdered a catholic priest

in Normandy yesterday was being monitored by police.

Adel Kermiche was wearing a surveillance tag but it was

switched off every morning as part of the conditions of his probation.

The 19-year-old and a fellow attacker stormed the church

in a suburb of Rouen, during morning Mass.

President Francois Hollande is meeting religious leaders this

morning to discuss the wave of Islamist terror attacks.

On the steps of the town hall in the quiet suburb of Rouen,

local people lit candles and left flowers last night.

They were remembering the local priest, Fr Jacques Hamel,

His killers, who took members of the congregation hostage, seriously

injuring one, were shot dead by police.

One of them has been named as 19-year-old Adel Kermiche,

As police searched his parents' house, where he

lived, officials revealed he was arrested twice last year

trying to reach Syria to join so-called IS.

He spent time in prison, but was released on probation

That kept him under virtual house arrest.

But French prosecutors said the attack occurred

during a period each morning when the tag

TRANSLATION: He told us he tried to go to Syria

twice, once through Switzerland, then through Turkey, but he failed.

We tried to bring him to his senses, but every time we did he was

This terror attack in a French Catholic church has brought renewed

advice from UK police chiefs for places of worship to review their

The National Police Chiefs Council says while there is no

specific intelligence relating to attacks here,

it has issued security advice to Christian places of

Britain's economy grew by 0.6% in the run up to the leaving of the EU.

The overtime bill for hospital consultants has risen by more

A BBC investigation has found that one doctor earned an extra ?375,000

Hospitals have blamed a shortage of consultants and rising demand.

The Department of Health says it will work to make changes

to consultant contracts in order to reduce overtime bills.

A former soldier who trained at Deepcut barracks at the time that

their athletics -- only their Athletic lets team faces a blanket

ban. Russian sports minister said he has received a letter from Sebastian

Coe saying the exclusion of Russian athletes cannot be reversed.

Roger Federer is out of the Olympics.

He has a knee injury which means he won't play again this season.

The world number three says he needs "more extensive rehabilitation"

if he wants to prolong his record-breaking career.

The 34-year-old was last seen at Wimbledon when he lost

British number one Johanna Konta is through to the second

round of the Rogers Cup in Montreal after a straight-sets win over

The 25-year-old, who won her first WTA

Tour title on Sunday, claimed victory in one hour and 21

The world number 14 will play American Vania King

Argentina striker Gonzalo Higuain has become the third most expensive

footballer in history - signing for Juventus from Napoli

Higuain's 36 goals last season helped Napoli

Gareth Bale at ?85 million and Cristiano Ronaldo

at ?80 million are the only more expensive players.

Juventus might get more money back with the world record sale

That is all the sport for now. What do you think of Clint getting the

first nomination to be in the final two in that race for the presidency

of America. Get in touch with us. If you text you will be charged at the

standard network rate. The NSPCC's helpline counsellors

have been trained by terrorism experts to help parents

who are worried about their children The service will support

parents who have concerns about their children or who need

advice on how to talk We speak to Khadijah Kamara,

whose son was radicalised in Brighton and later died in Syria

fighting for Al Qaeda. An NSPCC councillor that has been

trained by the Home Office, Why is the NSPCC getting involved in

this? It is important to us that in our ultimate aim is to protect

children from all forms of abuse and to do that, we have to be aware of

new concerns that are affecting children and young people. We know

extremism is a concern for people and that children and young people

are being affected and we consider it a form of abuse, because of the

danger it can place them in. Counsellors have had training what,

is the training, the Home Office has been involved? Yes the Home Office

provided training around helping our staff to understand what

vulnerabilities can lead to some children and young people becoming

involved in extremist activity. And helping us to think about how we can

support any adult who is concerned, but particularly parents. I said

that your son went to Syria from Brighton. Yes. He was killed in

September 2014. Did you, were you aware that he was being radicalised

at home? No, because that was a new thing in Brighton we never had

things like that. The way it happened with the boys that left

Brighton was very fast, before even the authorities will know. They just

say signs that you will not think about, that you will ignore. Until

after it happens and you start thinking back and say, oh, this was

something, this was saying something. When you look back now,

what are the signs that you can see? The signs, the first signs is

withdrawal and... Being more practical and looking down at other

Muslims as if they're not Muslims enough, they're not practicing

enough and things like that. And going out a lot. Going out a lot.

And that I'm talking from my perspective, you will call and you

hardly get them on the phone and things like that. Those are the

signs saw from him and getting angry when you, like when my son sold me

he wants to go to Syria to go and help, I said each time, the three

times I speak spoke to him, he said he is listening to someone and

because they were... The word radicalisation was not quite

familiar, I just say, I didn't even know about that, I said you're

listening to someone and they would get angry if you mentioned that and

things and they would be in denial that they were going to war. You

were obviously concerned about him going to Syria and you didn't renew

his passport to try to stop him going? Yes. Do you think that

actually you could have done anything to stop him? No, first of

all I think that you know if you will not travel without a passport

and there were no clear sign, it is just hints that I have given you and

totally it wasn't... Like how it's gone now like a lot of kids going.

That was the beginning. It wasn't something that people were really

aware of and things like that and even we parents. If somebody like

this came to you with what you're hearing now, what would you be able

to be say? I think one of signs that she talked about, we know that young

people as they become teenagers may develop more radical views and

looking for independence and developing their own thinking and

individually and so for us it is important to support parents and

exploring that with their children and we want to promote open

conversations between children and parents about this and encouraging

parents to understand why children have begun to feel a certain way,

what is it that is kind of affecting them, that kind of sense of not

belonging to a community oar that sense of isolation.

Are you convinced that conversations like that would turn somebody's mine

once they've been radicalised? What we want to do is identify people who

are at risk of becoming involved in this and help parents take early

action to prevent them becoming early victims of radicalisation. We

will look at whether we need to support parents and share

information with agencies. What is the practical advice you would give

them? We are talking about the type of children who will be susceptible,

how does any parent know what to look for? We need to look for the

signs, that have been mentioned. That is once somebody has been

radicalised. To prevent that happening? Signs that children are

becoming isolated, withdrawn, at the early stages. Those are signs of

vulnerability and it is at that stage that it is important to talk

to the children. Was he a boy who seemed like somebody who might have

vulnerability? No. The only thing I will say, he was a normal boy, very

soft-hearted. We went through a lot. That's why I was speaking to her a

lot. Before they become radicalised, what happened before that? We've got

to go to the root cause of the problems. They must have gone

through things that make them listen to any kind of person that tells

them to feel that way and then they believe that person. In my case, he

was beaten up after having an operation. We moved 11 times because

of racial harassment and things like that. My second son was called names

in a job centre and was almost hit with a handset, and I was told, why

am I even using the public forum, I am not from this country. The worst

of all is you tell authorities and you tell your children, don't take

the law into your hands, complain when something happens. They

complain and they tell you and you complain and nothing is done about

it. They go like this and later, they will not listen to you because

you become part of not fulfilling your promise by saying, don't take

the law into your hands, seek justice. They don't seek justice.

This is one of the root causes of the problem before we even go to how

they get designs in these things. Louise is talking about the NSPCC

wanting parents to go to the NSPCC, and talk about their concerns. Is

that something you would have done or would you have gone to the

police? I would have done that but I think this is not an issue, once

they've been radicalised, even at an early stage, to deactivate them, it

starts from the root cause. If there is little thing happens to them

while they are growing up, if they have the sense of belonging and like

they are integrated, most of these things will be prevented. That's why

I'll see it is not just on one side, it is the job of the nation. -- I

will say. One group like appearance or the authorities cannot do it by

themselves. It gone out of hand. We've got to do the right thing if

we want to save the kids. Thank you both very much. Still to come.

Meryl's thrilled, but why isn't the rest of America as excited

about finally having a female candidate for the presidency -

An investigation by BBC News has found that hospitals increasingly

rely on premium overtime pay to get consultants to do extra work.

One doctor in Lancashire earned an extra ?375000

Hospitals blame the rising overtime bill on a shortage of consultants -

but ministers say the way doctors are paid must change.

Our Health Correspondent Nick Triggle is here.

?375,000 over a year is obviously a huge amount. Talk is through that.

An astonishing amount and that is above their normal salary. This

doctor was doing many hours of overtime. We've looked at it across

the UK and it appears two thirds of hospitals are paying at least one

consultant over ?50,000 a year in overtime. This is a problem across

the NHS. We did not look at consultants doing overtime and

getting normal rates. It appears half these consultants are getting

these rates. Is the situation going to be look that to try and bring

down the bill? It would require more full-time staff, presumably. We

spoke to hospitals about why they are spending this money on overtime,

after all, it would pay for consultants. They said there was a

shortage of consultants in many areas and they could not get doctors

employed on full-time contracts to do the work. They said this was

happening at the time when there was rising patient demand and pressure

to meet targets. A lot of these shifts are done to reduce the

waiting list than they say these issues have to be tackled. Are they

going to put limits, are there are limits on what an individual can

earn? The government in England is in the process of trying to

renegotiate the consultant contract. They say one of the problems is the

contract allows doctors to opt out of the weekend care for routine

work, and this has allowed the profession to negotiate higher rates

for overtime related to routine care. That is knee and hip

operations and even some cancer care. Talks are ongoing with the

British Medical Association and they say if they can get rid of that opt

out it might reduce the overtime rates but the British Medical

Association insist this is more of an issue of a shortage of doctors

and if you reduce the overtime rates they may not do the work and then

hospitals will be left with a problem. Thank you very much.

This morning we been hearing about a soldier at Deepcut. After leaving

the military he began suffering flashbacks and underwent therapy to

deal with the trauma. He's never spoken about what he experienced

until now and in his first ever interview he spoke about the culture

of fear. It was unexpected. I think the instructors singled out people.

They did it privately in rooms, often when people were not there.

The violence and brutality was very controlled and calculated. This is

why you've probably had different versions, we all experience

something differently. For me, it got so bad that I had a group of

friends and we literally used to lock each other in cupboards, which

was literally the only place instructors could not access. You

could only rocket from the outside so we would lock each other in the

cupboard. I literally spent hours in the dark, in a cupboard, and we had

an agreement to take it in turns. Why would you do that? It was to

escape the daily activities, which were meaningless. In basic training,

everything was systematic and there was a reason for everything, whether

it was physical training, on the Rangers, learning to use a rifle,

chemical warfare, there was a programme to follow. But at Deepcut

it was not like that. During the day you'd have a parade in the morning

and then people would split into different groups, some people would

be washing clothes, some would-be peeling potatoes, some would be

cutting grass. Physical training. Others would just be messing about

on parade, guard duty, cleaning rifles. It had no meaning. It was

completely chaotic and it was psychologically tiring and mentally

tiring so we would hide in the ceiling, you could claim into the

rafters. You were at Deepcut at the same time as Sean Benton, who died

of five gunshot wounds to his chest. An inquest recorded a verdict of

suicide though his family have questioned that. The report that

looked at what had been going on at Deepcut by Nicholas Blake QC

concluded there was no evidence that Sean Benton had been bullied or

complained about bullying. Any harsh discipline to which he may have been

subjected did not cause him to take his life. Do you accept that? Not at

all. I disagree. Why not? I did not know shone on a personal level, but

I knew him well because we were there at the same time -- did not

know Sean Burton. In a weird sense we had parallel lives, we were both

sent to one facility at the same time, we both feel the category C

licence and were sent back to Deepcut. But I witnessed him being

singled out, and he was constantly punished, often for no reason. Even

his reputation preceded him. You could see him walking across the

field with an instructor behind him. I watched his personality change.

When I first met him, do when I saw him in May, he changed. I spoke to

him in the glucose, maybe five, six weeks before his death and he was

completely different. -- in the cook house. He was nervous. I cannot

remember what took place in the conversation but I remember him

complaining and he was angry and stressed and he was criticising the

trainers and he changed as a person inside. That was Stuart Thomson

speaking to me earlier. Still to come...

Today marks four years since the opening ceremony

of the London Olympic Games in 2012 - Martin Green, the man

in charge of that opening spectacular, joins us.

Don't you love those? James Gordon's carpool karaoke is driving off in a

new direction. We will have the full story later in the show.

President Francois Hollande is meeting religious leaders this

morning to discuss the wave of Islamist terror

one of the attackers who killed an 85-year-old Catholic priest

at his church in Rouen - had been wearing an electronic tag,

but it was turned off under his probation conditions.

Churches in the UK have been warned by police to review their

Britain's economy grew by 0.6% in the three months leading up

to the vote to leave the European Union.

Figures from the Office for National Statistics show output

was 2.2% higher than the previous year.

The economy was boosted by the biggest increase

The overtime bill for consultants in UK hospitals has risen by more

An investigation by the BBC has found that one doctor earned

Hospitals have blamed a shortage of consultants and rising demand.

The Department of Health says it will work to make changes

to consultant contracts in order to reduce overtime bills.

Hillary Clinton has become the first woman in US history to be nominated

She was endorsed by the Democrats at their National

But there were protests from supporters of the defeated

The French former commissioner Michel Barnier has been appointed

as the European commission's chief negotiator for the Uk's

Michel Barnier was a commissioner from 2010 to 2014, in charge

European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker has described

Counsellors working for the NSPCC are being trained to help parents

who fear their children are being radicalised.

The charity says it's received a number of calls

Its advisers are being primed to spot the warning signs

if a youngster is risk such as isolating themselves and talking

The IAAF President Sebastian Coe has told Russian Sports

Minister Vitaly Mutko the blanket ban on track and field

The governing bodies of fencing and gymnastics have

cleared the Russian teams to compete in Rio.

That takes the number of Russian sports that won't face any

Roger Federer is out of the Olympics.

The World Number Three has a knee injury which means he won't

He said he needs more extensive rehabilitation if he wants

British number one Johanna Konta is through to the second

round of the Rogers Cup in Montreal after a straight sets win over

And the sale of Gonzalo Higuain from Napoli to Italian Champions Juventus

for ?75 million is the third most expensive transfer fee

Only Gareth Bale and Cristiano Ronaldo have cost more.

That is all the sport. Back to you. Thank you.

The Labour leadership candidate Owen Smith is expected to speak

in Sheffield shortly where he's due to outline more details

of what a Labour party under his leadership

With us now is our political correspondent Chris Mason who's

in Sheffield where Owen Smith is due to speak.

What do you expect him to say? Yes, good morning from the site of the

Orgreave protests and the running battles between miners and South

Yorkshire Police during the miners' strike. This is now an industrial

estate. But loaded with symbolism in terms of Labour and those within the

Labour movement and gives you an insight about the electorate he must

appeal to beat Jeremy Corbyn in the leadership race. Around half a

million people, Labour members and supporters and affiliated supporters

via trade unions, Owen Smith is making a socialist pitch and said he

is a more competent operate or than Jeremy Corbyn. So will we learn? We

expect some policy detail. He wants to remove any private provision

within the NHS. The private sector has been brought in to clear

backlogs. He wants the return of wages councils, so a real promotion

of workers within the work place. And a real focus on arguing that he

can offer proper red meat socialist solutions, but do it competently. He

fears that Jeremy Corbyn has been good as slow goonising, but --

sloganising, but not much more than that. Thank you.

Hillary Clinton has become the first woman in US history to be nominated

She was endorsed by the Democrats at their National Convention

Appearing via video link, she told party delegates they'd made

the biggest crack yet in the glass ceiling that stops women rising.

The actress Meryl Streep then paid tribute to Mrs Clinton, saying it

takes grit and grace to become the first female anything.

We got some fight left in us, don't we? What does it take to be the

first female anything? It takes grit and it takes grace. And tonight more

than 200 years of Deborah Sampson fought and nearly 100 years after

women got the vote, you people have made history! Yeah. And you're going

to make history again in November. Because Hillary Clinton will be our

first woman president. And she will be a great president. And she will

be the first in a long line of women and men who serve with grit and

grace. With me in the studio is Carol Gould

- she's an American author Meryl Streep was excited, has the

fact that she is a woman in this position been a big factor. It

doesn't seem to have been a massive factor during the campaign. No, some

of the bigger factors have the media concentration on Donald Trump, the

Republican candidate. I think that there are some women a small number

of women who might vote for Trump because they don't automatically

find Hilary appealing. There are people, Bernie Sanders won 1900

delegates and 23 contests, plus he won the global primary by a

landslide. Americans who live abroad, millions who in a democratic

side, the Republicans don't have global primary and that included

many women who voted for Sanders. An overwhelming number of young people

voted for Sanders. Including girls and young women, their first vote. I

don't think it has been a major factor. There are many powerful

women in politics. Do you think it is relevant? I don't think so.

Codoleza Rice was in a powerful position and others. But it is

exciting. I have said over the past couple of years wouldn't bit

exciting if Ms Rice had been the Republican candidate and some people

were surprised that Hillary Clinton didn't pick Elizabeth Warren as her

running mate. But maybe they thought it was too big a long shot. Donald

Trump is the person taking the headlines, Michelle Obama has

spoken. When you look at the sort of attention that Trump's speech got

and he has had, it is eclipsed it? Yes and sorry to say every time

there is an international terrorist attack, Donald Trump gets more

votes. In the national polls, believe it or not, Trump is about 8%

of Clint Hillary Clinton Clint in terms of we trust him on threats to

America. Like Le Pen in France, every time there is an attack the

right gets more votes. What do you think of the Hillary Clinton

campaign? Hillary Clinton has moved a bit to the left, because the

Bernie Sanders supporters supported him was because he was a socialist

and he wants a rise in the minimum wage and he was gets the North

American free trade agreement and interestingly Trump has never

traduced Bernie Sanders. He has never criticised him, because oddly,

he and Bernie Sanders have agreed on things like free trade, because it

reduces American jobs. I think she will have to compromise on some

issues. Don't underestimate the importance of Catholic vote in

America these things are important. And she has picked a running mate

who is Roman Catholic and Tim Cane will attract the Latino and the

Italian and Irish vote. It sounds ridiculous probably to to your

viewers, but these are important issue. He is in the middle. He was

antiabortion, but he has moved to the more liberal side. It will be

interesting when Hillary Clinton takes on Donald Trump, because she

has masses of international experience, when she saids what is

your experience, I don't know how he will get around that. Do you want to

protect who will be president? It could be Trump and Pence, Mike Pence

his running mate. He is looking ahead in the polls at the moment.

Ahead of Hillary Clinton. It depends on how successful she is in swing

states over the next few months until November. The presidential

debates will be the turning point. Thank you.

Arrests are continuing in Turkey after the country's failed

In the last 24 hours, scores more people have been taken

into custody including a former Istanbul governor, well-known

journalists and high-ranking military officials.

Another fifty thousand people have been suspended from their jobs.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has announced a three

month state of emergency, allowing extraordinary numbers

of detentions to be made in the name of terrorism.

From Ankara we have Metin Bakkalci who is the Secretary General

for the Human Rights Foundation of Turkey which works to stop human

And Ceylan Akca is a political advisor for a Turkish opposition

We also have Yavuz Baydar, who has 40 years' experience

as a journalist and was the founding member of Platform for

We are not revealing his location due to concerns for his safety.

If I could come to you first. How concerned are you for the safety of

journalists? This is utterly worrisome, the morning arrests are

indications strongly enough for another round up of the continuing

man hunt and witch-hunt that has been going on around the media. 47

people includes prominent names like a professor, who is one of the

strongest liberal voices for ages in Turkey. Second, an 80-year-old

literary critic and poet and philosopher and many other

colleagues. So the pattern seems to be in the second wave of arrests,

these are people who have been writing the Zaman newspaper and it

will continue with a fourth and fifth wave under the names of other

newspapers that are now shut down. You work for the human rights

foundation of Turkey, talk us through the latest you have in terms

of how people are being treated and the numbers of detentions. First I'm

sorry for my English. Human rights foundation of Turkey has a concrete

mission to support torture survivors with various services and to fight

against torture issue. Naturally human rights foundation of Turkey is

against any kind of military coup. Which means complete denial of the

democracy and Parliament's rights. The crime committed by the plotters

of the latest coup is a crime against humanity and it is clear. So

concerning these, all the necessary legal processes, should be carried

out. They should be tried fairly and punished of course. We are living in

times of emergency. For many years in Turkey. In particularly yes,

after in July there is an extraordinary circumstances. Of

course, there is an urgent need for regulations that will enable coping

with the current times of emergency. The question is how it should be.

The two accounts can be eliminated by the concrete programmes that will

enable copies with the times of emergency, but in line with the

obligations under the international law. But unfortunately as you talked

just before, this state of emergency law, but remind you that law was

adopted during the previous coup in 1980 and the aim of this law is to,

was to consolidate the military coup mentality and to sustain the

military coup mentality. So the basis of this law it is not possible

to over come to cope with the current types of emergency - times

of emergency. I want to bring in the political

adviser for an opposition party. Do you feel safe in Turkey? I've never

felt safe here, as someone who represents the opposition and a

minority in Turkey. Do you know many people who's been detained? Not

directly, but the people I work with and the human rights lawyers say

that they've gone to school with some of the judges and prosecutors

and lawyers who has been detained. But some of them have been released

but then I'm guessing the president changed his mind again and they have

been arrested again. Is there any journalist who wants to speak out at

the moment in any way that would be perceived as critical and lead to

their arrest? I'm sure there are. And will continue to do so. It has

been marked by continuing resistance to censorship. The problem is the

emergency rule, the Human Rights Watch said the regulations, in doing

these, could be used arbitrarily against all opposition forces to

silence them. I am deeply concerned about the state of journalism in

Turkey because round-up after round-up, in order to blocked

reporting, 42 journalists arrested yesterday included many keen

investigative reporters, so the pattern of the first wave is clearly

to block political reporting. The second is columnists, the liberal

bulk of journalism in Turkey. There is a very narrow room, almost none,

in Turkish media. The question, critical views of where the country

is heading for, darkness is now covering the entire country. The

safety of journalists in general and the existence of journalism in

general is under the severest threat we are experiencing right now and

I'm afraid, the international journalism organisations are

increasingly concerned that this clamp-down will continue in the

coming days and weeks and that's why it is time to raise the flag for the

situation of freethinkers of Turkey. All the indications are pointing out

to hard times. Thank you for talking to us.

We're all terribly excited about the Rio Olympics -

but it seems like only a heartbeat ago we were all thrilling to our own

Games, our own opening ceremony, our own amazing event.

Now Brazil gets a chance to put on a show -

Let's talk about what is in store with Martin Green, head of

ceremonies at London 2012. Tell us what being head of ceremonies meant.

My job was to deliver the opening and closing ceremonies of the

Olympic and Paralympic games, the torch relays, welcome ceremonies for

the participating nations and the medal ceremonies. We look back and

we know what a great success of the opening ceremony was, the closing

ceremony, in the run-up, there was a lot of concern about whether London

2012 would pull it off. How were you feeling? We knew what we were

preparing and we had absolute faith that we were doing the right thing.

We had an extraordinary artistic director. I think these things are

rather cyclical. You see them in every Olympics. The Olympic torch

arrived and people get it and then you do the opening ceremony. There

was a strange thing where we knew what was going to happen and we were

holding our nerve because we believed when the show went on

people would see that we meant it when we said it would be

extraordinary. Give us an insight into the creative process, how do

you put on something that has that element of surprise? There was the

video with the Queen, other elements nobody knew about, how free do

people have to be to come up with ideas? I started working on the show

five years before and the first thing was to recruit a creative team

for each of the ceremonies. We went out and Danny said he would do it,

then you break it down because it is a ceremony, so some of it is already

set. The entrance of the athletes, the speeches, the flags, the

creative that goes on around it. We knew that we wanted to do something

that celebrated the diversity of the UK, the fact that London was the

centre of the universe at that moment, nodding to history, looking

to the future, and it was Danny and his team that went through that

process of thinking about how to do this. Then coming up with surprises

along the way, how we worked with the Queen, extraordinary Olympic

cauldron, many other contributions to the ceremony. What was the

highlight? The thing I loved the most was when JK Rowling came on and

read from Peter Pan. She does not do very much public stuff and we have a

long conversation with her and eventually she agreed. I just

thought it was a profoundly moving moment. What will you expect from

Rio de Janiero? One hell of a party. Brazil is a country steeped in the

most extraordinary culture. The carnival is world-renowned. I can

imagine we're going to see another piece of spectacular culture to open

what will be a hugely successful games. Do you enjoy it when you've

been involved or are you just worried something will go wrong?

Your heart goes out to them. A lot of British people are working on

natural because the UK has become very good at delivering these

extraordinary global events. There are always heart stopping moments,

the lighting of the cauldron, anything that moves across the

stadium. You have a different relationship when watching the shows

if you know what's been going on behind the scenes. Thank you very

much. It's good to look back to 2012 and four to what is in store this

summer. Thank you. -- forward. He's played chauffer to some

of the biggest names in showbiz - and now James Corden

is going for a spin The company has bought the rights

to make a new spin-off series of the Carpool Karaoke segments

from his Late Late Show. In his latest, Corden took a drive

around the White House with none other than First Lady Michelle

Obama. He there. Do you want to go for a

spin? 100%. All the single ladies! Put your hands up!

Don't pay him any attention. They will be mad at me. If you love that

then you should have put a Ring on it. That might be my favourite. Our

entertainment reporter is here with us. They've got a massive fan base.

What is this deal going to mean? It's a really simple idea. The host

of a late-night talk show takes a variety of stars in his car and gets

them to reveal things about themselves and sing along to some of

their favourite tracks. It can be their own music, he's had a host of

people like Justin Bieber. All we know is this deal is definitely

going to happen and it will be exclusive to apple music

subscribers, it will last 16 episodes, you will get one episode

every week. They don't know who will present. He will be an executive

producer on the show. Those details are yet to be announced. We know

that it will be going into production very soon. It does not

mean that this stuff involving James Corden.. Norway will that stop. This

is a viral sensation. This video was released at the start of the week

and has had more than 30 million views on YouTube. The more popular

one with Adele has had 100 million views. It will still go ahead. It

must be a lucrative deal with apple. Indeed. The studio that houses the

late late -- houses the chat show are involved. Apple are trying to

get into the YouTube sphere. They want the views coming to the

platform. This is what it is about. It is amazing what he has done in

terms of cracking America and delivering this which has just gone

viral and people love it. It was amazing because when he got the gig

he was largely unknown. He had done Broadway a couple of times but that

was it. There was scepticism around him taking over such a popular show

and he's turned it around. He is now one of the biggest stars, he can

have anyone. The only person that has not been in his car is Taylor

Swift or President Obama himself. He just keeps going from success to

success. Thank you very much. Some comments about radicalisation.

One person said the mother raised a great point about one of the root

causes, being ignored due to race. Talking about what happened in

France, what a sorry state of affairs when you need more security

at churches. Thank you for your company and I will see you tomorrow.

Goodbye. You're coming across as, frankly,

ridiculous. I'm flabbergasted by that.

Will they get burnt... You have done an appalling job of

selling them online. Erm...