02/08/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

A high court judge is set to rule today on whether a drug

which prevents people being infected with HIV should be funded

The daily pill, known as PrEP, has been described as a game changer

by campaigners because it can reduce the risk of infection by 90%.

We'll be talking to the charity which led the legal challenge

against the NHS and someone who takes the drug.

The race to succeed Nigel Farage as leader of Ukip is on.

Four of the candidates who have thrown their hat into the ring

will be telling us why they should be the one for the job.

And Iranian men have been taking to social media dressed in hijabs,

the Muslim headscarf, in a show of solidarity with women

across the country who are forced to cover their heads in public.

-- women across the country who oppose being forced to cover their

heads in public. We talk to the woman

driving the campaign. Welcome to the programme, we're live

until 11am this morning. Also today, we will be hearing how

the growing gap between wages and house prices is spreading

the problem of people not being able Do get in touch on all the stories

we're talking about this morning - use the hashtag #VictoriaLive and,

if you text, you will be charged Levels of home ownership have

fallen to their lowest levels since the 1980s,

according to new analysis. The think tank, The Resolution

Foundation, says homes are becoming increasingly unaffordable

for struggling potential buyers and the biggest shift has

been in major cities. Reasons -- regions in the north and

the Midlands are becoming increasingly unaffordable. The

biggest fall in home ownership has been in Manchester.

Our business correspondent Victoria Fritz is in Manchester.

Victoria, just explain what's been happening there?

Good morning. The steepest fall has been a Greater Manchester, we have

seen a 40% fall in home ownership over the last 13 years to just over

half of all property, being owned by people living in their own homes.

The rest is rented. This is a pretty typical property which has been on

the market for about six weeks, on for about ?149,000, about average

for the area. The man selling it is looking to sell this to buy other

homes that he can rent to other people, because the rental yield is

increasing here. It is a real issue, rising rents, rising prices. People

talking about affordability as one of the key drivers for why we are

seeing a fall in home ownership, but there are plenty of other reasons.

After booming in the 1980s, home ownership has

But now new analysis shows homeownership in England

The Resolution Foundation says the number of people

who own their home has dropped to 64%, down 7% from

The biggest falls have been in Greater Manchester and outer

London, although the West Midlands and West Yorkshire have also

Northern Ireland has seen the most dramatic switch

The think-tank which carried out this analysis argues

that the housing crisis is no longer confined to London.

They also warn it's threatening to reduce living standards

In response, the Government says policies like Right to Buy

and starter homes mean that more than a decade-long decline in home

The Prime Minister Theresa May has acknowledged there's more to do,

although some experts argue that the move towards renting

could also be due to changing lifestyles

That is certainly what the agents of the houses being sold on this street

are saying, that the rental stock is improving, landlords are putting

more into their properties because there are simply more on the market,

they had to up their game. We will be talking to lots of experts, and

we have been already, they say that about 30% of the entire rental

market is professionals who are sitting on a fair amount of money

and choosing not to buy, they are choosing to hold onto their money.

Perhaps they work across the country, maybe seven days in London

and Sundays up in the north. We are seeing a change in a cup of renters

for lots of different reasons, not just affordability and bank lending

but things around job security, and the fact that people are living in

slightly better housing than was available 20 years ago. Keep your

comments in, I know you will be tweeting, so keep them coming into

Victoria Derbyshire programme. Thank you very much, Victoria. Let

us know your thoughts and experiences of buying a property or

not. Rebecca is in the BBC

Newsroom with a summary The High Court will decide later

whether the NHS in England should It's called PrEP and has been shown

to reduce the risk of transmission by 90%.The idea is to give the daily

drug to uninfected gay men as a preventative

measure against the virus - a treatment campaigners

call a game changer. That and a set -- NHS England argues

it is not legally allowed to commission the drug, as HIV

prevention services are the responsibility of local authorities.

The once-a-day pill would cost ?400 per person each month.

And Joanna will be speaking to the National Aids Trust and a man

who has been taking the drug as part of a trial - that's coming up

A man and woman have been charged in connection with the death of a baby

embossed over the weekend. The three-month-old boy was treated at

Bristol Children's Hospital, where he died on Sunday evening. Hannah

Henry, 20, and 26-year-old Alister Walker from Gloucester, will appear

at Cheltenham Magistrates' Court later charged with child McGregor --

child neglect. The police investigation into the baby's death

continues. A group of MPs is calling on the BBC

to disclose which of its stars earn more than the Prime Minister -

that's ?143,000 pounds a year. The Culture, Media and Sport

Committee says there's no good reason for performers,

presenters or executives It also says there should be

a separate Six O'Clock Our media correspondent

David Sillito reports. The BBC's star names

are part of daily life, but exactly how much

are they all paid? Managers earning more than ?150,000

have to reveal their salaries, but stars presenting

the programmes don't. The current Government proposal

is to publish details of anyone But MPs on the Media Select

Committee want to go further, despite concern from the BBC that

revealing staff salaries would be a poacher's charter, helping rivals

to outbid the corporation. We have agents and people's

representatives, I think they've got a good idea of how much

people get paid. The thing is, the licence fee payers

don't really understand how much Anyone earning more

than the Prime Minister, as they would do in other public

bodies, should have to disclose how We think that's the level

of transparency licence MPs want to see changes to the news

in Scotland, calling for a separate 6pm TV news that would be made

in Scotland with a Scottish The BBC has been looking at the idea

following concern that, following devolution,

many so-called national stories There's also concern

that Rona Fairhead, the head of the BBC Trust,

is to chair the new board that will The Government said it made

the offer to help MPs feel there should have been

an open competition for the job. The funeral takes place

in France later today of a priest killed a week ago

in his church in Normandy. Father Jacques Hamel,

who was aged 85, was killed by two French teenagers who pledged

allegiance to the so-called The ceremony is due to take place

in Rouen Cathedral. He will be buried afterwards

in a private ceremony. Hundreds of people protested

yesterday outside a branch of Byron They're angry at the company's role

in a raid by immigration officers on staff who didn't have the right

documents to stay in the country. 35 people were arrested

in the operation. There were reports that a training

event had been set up to lure workers to a location

where they would be arrested. Byron has said it was

complying with the law. A new law has come into effect

in the American state of Texas that allows students to carry concealed

guns on campuses. Students aged 21 or over

who have a concealed handgun permit may take guns into classrooms,

under the new law. Texas has now become one of eight US

states that allows students to carry The Republican Presidential

candidate Donald Trump has called his Democratic rival

Hillary Clinton "the devil", in the face of continuing fire

from within his own party. Speaking at a rally in a high school

gym in Pennsylvania, Mr Trump attacked Bernie Sarnders

for capitulating to Mrs Clinton in the Democratic race,

saying he had done a deal If he would have just

not done anything, just go home, go to sleep,

relax, he would have been a hero. But he made a deal with the devil -

she's the devil. That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 9:30am. Still to come - we will be talking

to the charity leading a legal challenge against the NHS over

the funding of a drug which prevents Do get in touch with us

throughout the morning - If you text, you will be charged

at the standard network rate. Now, let's get the sport with John

Watson. And, John, it's all about

the Olympic Games today? We're heading into the zone when we

will be talking about nothing else? Only one thing on the sports agenda,

all of the build-up to the start of the Rio Olympics, now just days

away. After facing a possible

ban from the Games, one of Britain's best medal hopes

at the Rio Olympics, Cyclist Lizzie Armitstead has been

cleared to compete. Armitstead, who won silver

in London four years ago, missed three drug tests -

but one of those has been cleared by the Court of Arbitration

for Sport after she proved anti doping officers had not tried

hard enough to find her. In a statement Armitstead she has

"always been and will always So, Lizzie Armitstead is still among

Team GB's medal hopes. But how many can we realistically

expect to win in Rio? London 2012 was a spectacular Games,

of course, with 65 podium finishes. But the target here is 48,

which would beat the record for an overseas games set in Beijing

eight years ago. We believe this is the most talented

squad we've ever had, we've got 366 athletes, a big team. I don't want

to single out one sport, that I spent a lot of time in swimming

recently and they feel they are in the mix. It is a very confident

squad, more than 47 will be a best ever for us, post-Beijing, anything

north of 65 takes us into heaven at the history books. Is that probable?

Probably not, but we are gunning for better than 47.

Sweeney says there'll be a fairly small delegation of Team GB athletes

marching at the opening ceremony on Friday, with most

of the squad still up in the Belo Horizonte training camp,

about an hour's flight away from Rio.

It's been a brand new experience for many athletes -

notably the Rugby 7s teams, with their sport making its

The men's competition begins a week today,

with the women getting started this Saturday.

We're so excited. Obviously it is the first time any of us have ever

been at an Olympic Games, we are trying to soak it up as much as

possible but trying to retain focus on what we had to do. We are already

in the holy -- holding camp a ransom of the swimmers, and the athletes

arrived the other day. Household names are already around us, hugely

inspiring. "Hard working and greedy" is how

Kadeena Cox laughingly described herself, after being picked

to represent Paralympics Cox is already a world champion

in cycling and athletics - and next month she'll become

the first competitor since 1992 to represent Great Britain

in more than one sport. It's crazy and exciting, and I'm

really looking forward to it. It's a challenge that I wanted to undertake

from the beginning, and to finally be able to say that I am about to

embark on it is super exciting, but crazy at the same time. I like to be

cut Dean, I had a unique name, I live up to that. -- I like to be

Kadeena. Concerns over pollution

and construction remain in Rio. Team GB's sailors are preparing

to compete in some of the most polluted waters around

the city in Gunabara Bay. And that's if they can

even get to the water after a boat ramp at the sailing

venue collapsed, raising further One thing that is holding strong

is this Lego model of Rio. It took a year and almost a million

pieces to put together the 25 scenes, including the Olympic rings,

the stadiums and other At least something has been

delivered on time, not that that is much used to the athletes in Rio!

But it is pretty to look at. Thank you.

The High Court is due to rule this morning on whether the NHS

in England should have to fund a drug that can help

The treatment called PrEP has been shown to reduce the risk of HIV

But the NHS has argued it is not its responsibility to fund

the drug, that local authorities should pay for it.

PrEP is used in several other countries to help

Here's a look at what PrEP is in a little more detail.

It stands for pre-exposure prophylaxis.

It's a daily pill taken to reduce the risk of getting HIV.

The drug is intended for people who are at high risk

of contracting the virus - for example, someone

who is in a relationship with a partner who is HIV-positive.

There are around 100,000 people living in the UK with HIV.

If taken correctly, PrEP is almost entirely effective

A UK trial was set up to see how effective PREP would be

in preventing HIV transmission among gay men.

The study was a huge success and was actually brought to an early

them for greater intimacy, only a minority of the sexually active

population use condoms consistently 100% of the time. So if we want to

see a change in rates of transmission, the game change that

we need, we need to add to condom use, that is where PrEP comes in.

You have been using PrEP for the last 2.5 years, what would you say

are the benefits? Decision-making and taken control of my own sexual

health. Perhaps because I was around as a child in the 80s when Aden was

pitched does something quite sinister -- when aids was. There is

here around sex, I came out quite late, I was probably afraid, quite

irrationally, that just having sex would give me HIV. For me, I take

this decision when I am brushing my teeth in the morning, to take that

pill every day. The decision to use a condom, which is something I try

to do, I know it is not perfect. That decision is often made in the

heat of the moment at the wrong time, it is not the best

circumstances at which to make a strategic decision about your sexual

health. It can go wrong, all sorts of reasons. So this is me taking

control about my sexual health, unilaterally, alone, without

discussion with somebody else. Would you say this is as liberating for

the gay men as the pill was for women in the 60 's? Not having been

a woman in the 60 's, perhaps I am not qualified, but I would say it is

very liberating for my own personal reasons. I know plenty of other gay

men that I have spoken to about it feel the same way, it is not about

being afraid of sex any more. We have accepted that sex is not about

procreation. Gay sex has always been problematic, it carries with it a

small risk but one that is quite corrosion as if it catches you. When

you look at the risk, taking this drug has reduced transmission of

HIV, the number of infections, by 86%, so there is still a 14% risk.

Condoms are safer. Taken properly, it is almost 100% effective. It is

all about the regime. There are all sorts of experiments around how you

might want to take it. An event -based prescription. Taken every

day, which I find very easy, with Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

Thursday, Friday on my tray sorter, in those circumstances is is

virtually 100% effective. Telus more about the statistics. 86% is the

figure put out there? Three people in the PrEP arm of the

trial got HIV. When the study researchers looked in more detail at

those three men, they found none of them are actually taking the PrEP at

the time they got HIV. It was not that they were taking PrEP and it

didn't work, it was that they were meant to be taking it that haven't

been taking at the time they got HIV. It does not suggest there is a

14% gap but it shows you need to take it as prescribed. If you do

that, all the data shows it is more or less 100% effective. ?400 a month

for the NHS. Who would get this? be cost-effective, we need to make

sure it is targeted at people who are high risk. That is the first

point. Define out. That is what the working group was developing,

eligibility criteria, before the whole process was abandoned. For gay

men, it would probably be the eligibility criteria developed was

about having a recent instance of unprotected sex, likely to do it

again. Having previously attended a sexual health clinic and having a

negative HIV test. Public Health England says that is sufficient to

identify a high risk group who would really benefit from PrEP. As I said

previously, you do not need to prevent HIV transmission is to make

PrEP cost-effective. In the first full year of PrEP, you might have

4000 men. At the full cost prize, which would then come down, towards

?40, because it would be generic. 4000 men on PrEP, you only need to

stop 43 of them from getting HIV to pay for it self. We need to think

about the greater cost of treating people if they get HIV. If it were

widely available and did give protection for people with HIV and

lead to less condom use, would it lead potentially to an increase in

other STDs and cause other issues? Other STI 's occur through other

forms of sex anyway. There was no statistical increase. What goes

alongside this is regular visits to the clinic. That is good for all

sorts of other reason. I do not see that as being a problem. The

largest, most significant, risk in terms of cost of the NHS and in

terms of effects on lifestyle is clearly HIV. Those other STI 's

will, if they occur, be caught at those regular three monthly

screenings I would continue to have. I have no fear of that. Looking at

these statistics, you spoke earlier about your fears of the risks of HIV

transmission before you came out. In London, one in eight sexual partners

in someone's time would have HIV nationwide. The one in 26. When you

look at a statistic like that it is easy to see the fear the risk. That

is at the forefront of my mind, especially living in London, where

the figure is so high. Statistically it is almost impossible. Of the men

I meet and talk to, none of those have HIV. I believe 14% of them

might not even know it. A sexual encounter even with someone I have

had a long and meaningful conversation about when they were

last checked and whether they practice safe sex, they may be

carrying it and not knowing it. When the number is that high, one in 11

in London, under the new counting regime, that is quite a frightening

statistic for me. It may be the person I have taken in good faith as

having had a test is carrying it unknowingly or has had sex with

someone else who is carrying it unknowingly. It is not the single

person I meet, it is all the people they have slept with. You would have

to take PrEP for 75 years to cost it. People refusing to use condoms

is not an excuse to force the NHS to pay ?10 million to ?20 million. De

want to respond to that? The first one makes the point I was making. It

is cost-effective. With regards to the second, I think we need to move

away from this idea of people refusing to use a condom is as an

irresponsible act. A lot of people use condom is a lot of the time. In

the real world, it is not 100%. People wanting is a profoundly

responsible act about your sexual health and sexual health of your

partners. If people are concerned about the money, let's boil it down

to the economic argument to make the point again that if you provide PrEP

to those at high risk of HIV, you are saving the NHS money. If we can

start to get down the number of transmissions, which we are failing

to do, by adding PrEP to our prevention armoury, will be saving

money in the long term. If you win today, that is what it will boil

down to, isn't it? It would have to go through the usual scrutiny. If we

win this morning, what happens is the NHS decision-making process gets

kick-started again that they will think very carefully about all of

the effectiveness, public health, and cost effectiveness argument is

that we are all concerned about. Lorenzo has tweeted, why should the

NHS fund the drug when they cannot find other life-saving drugs for

treatment of cancer, etc? I do not think it is a trade-off. With finite

budgets, how do you choose? Life-saving treatment for cancer or

this? We should pay for life-saving treatment for cancer and we should

pay for prevention. As long as we refuse to do prevention, and only

fund treatment, we are never going to have enough money for treatment,

including four life-saving cancer drugs. This is about protecting the

NHS budget by strategic investment to improve our response to the HIV

epidemic and reduce the number of people who need lifelong HIV

treatment. That will free up money, treatment for cancer, and all other

drugs as well. If it is not decided in the end the NHS funds and the NHS

is arguing it should not be funding this because of legal

responsibilities, what will you do? You have been getting as part of a

trial. I have about a month's I left. I can then go into the world

wide web and find it for myself from online websites. I can import it for

personal use, three months use, so I can get 90 pills for about ?45 a

bottle with all the risks that come from that. Do I know that the

company supplying it, do I know who has made it? Has it been quality

checked? Is it the real thing, that is what I will have to do,

stretching to ?43 a month will give me peace of mind. A lot of people

who cannot stretch to that ?43 a month or think the risk is too high,

because they do not know what they will be taking.

It is so much cheaper to buy privately because it is not the

patent and version? If you buy online from overseas you are buying

from generic companies, where the cost is cheaper. A couple more

tweets, Harry has said, it is absurd. If this disease affected

mostly elderly people, the NHS would fund it immediately. Callum says if

you think the NHS can't afford PrEP, just consider how much it costs to

treat and care for an HIV patient for life. Thank you for coming in,

the ruling is expected at around 10:30am, we will have that when it

comes do. Thank you. We did invite NHS England to be part

of our discussion this morning, but they said that they would only

respond once the judgement is delivered, which we expect

to happen at around The desperate decision facing

hundreds of thousands of people trapped in the Syrian

city of Aleppo. Stay and face starvation

and airstrikes, or leave We speak to people from

within the besieged city. And the Iranian men using photos

of themselves in headscarves to protest against a law that forces

women to cover their Here's Rebecca in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news. Levels of home ownership have fallen

to their lowest level since the 1980s, according to new analysis.

The housing crisis in London has now spread, according to a think tank,

with regions in the north and the Midlands becoming increasingly

unaffordable. The biggest fall in home ownership has been in

Manchester. The High Court will decide later

whether the NHS in England should It's called PrEP and has been shown

to reduce the risk of transmission The idea is to give the daily

drug to uninfected gay men as a preventative

measure against the virus - a treatment campaigners

call a game changer. NHS England argues

it is not legally allowed to commission the drug,

as HIV prevention services are the responsibility

of local authorities. Nick Perry has been taking PrEP as

part of a drugs trial called Proud, and described the benefits.

Certainly I feel it is very liberating, for my own personal

reasons. I know plenty of other gay men that I have spoken to about it

appealed the same way. This is about not being afraid of sex any more. --

I have spoken to about it feel the same way.

A man and woman have been charged in connection with the death

of a baby in Gloucester over the weekend.

The three-month-old boy was treated at Bristol Children's Hospital,

Hannah Henry, 20, and 26-year-old Alistair Walker from Gloucester,

will appear at Cheltenham Magistrates' Court later

The police investigation into the baby's death continues.

A group of MPs is calling on the BBC to disclose which of its stars earn

more than the Prime Minister - that's ?143,000 pounds a year.

The Culture, Media and Sport Committee says there's no good

reason for performers, presenters or executives

It also says there should be a separate Six O'Clock

Our media correspondent David Sillito reports.

The funeral takes place in France later today

of a priest killed a week ago in his church in Normandy.

Father Jacques Hamel, who was aged 85, was killed by two

French teenagers who pledged allegiance to the so-called

The ceremony is due to take place in Rouen Cathedral.

He will be buried afterwards in a private ceremony.

The Republican Presidential candidate Donald Trump has

called his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton "the devil",

in the face of continuing fire from within his own party.

Speaking at a rally in a high school gym in Pennsylvania,

The Republican Presidential candidate Donald Trump has

Mr Trump attacked Bernie Sarnders for capitulating to Mrs Clinton

in the Democratic race, saying he had done a deal

If he would have just not done anything, just

go home, go to sleep, relax, he would have been a hero.

But he made a deal with the devil - she's the devil.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

Let's catch up with the sports headlines now, with John Watson.

After facing a ban from the Olympics, cyclist Lizzie Armitstead

After missing three drug tests, which would have led

to a suspension from the games, Armitstead proved to the Court

of Arbitration for Sport that one of those missed tests,

was down to anti-doping officials failing to locate her whilst

she stayed at a hotel in Sweden during a competition.

There are ongoing concerns over pollution ahead

of the start of the Olympics, just days away.

Ahtletes have been warned to keep their mouths closed

when they compete in the polluted waters in Rio.

And Warwickshire all-rounder Chris Woakes says it's

been a "surreal" summer, as he prepares to play in his first

Test match at his home ground of Edgbaston.

Woakes has been one of the stand-out performers with bat

England's third Test against Pakistan starts tomorrow,

That is all the sport for now, more later. Wherever you? Hello.

A major rebel offensive is underway in Aleppo in retaliation

President Assad's troops have set a full supply routes into rebel held

areas, where the UN estimates 300,000 civilians are trapped. Food

supplies are expected to run out in a couple of weeks.

Let's get the latest from our correspondent in Beirut. What are

you hearing about the situation on the ground, how many people are

taking the decision to leave Aleppo? This is the worst escalation of

violence we have seen in the city in recent months. A major offensive has

been lodged by rebel fighters from the south-west of the city, with an

aim to break through Government held areas so they can break the siege of

rebel held parts of the city in the east. These are areas that the

regime said it had cut off oil supplies to last week. Rebel

fighters say they have made quick advances unbearably two kilometres

away from achieving their goal -- that the regime said it had cut off

all supplies to. The Syrian government has denied this claim, as

well as Russia, which supports the rear in this fight. As far as the

humanitarian situation, about a quarter of a million people are

there. The UN warned on Friday that food stocks would only last for

three weeks. As far as the humanitarian corridors are

concerned, Russia said that Syrian forces opened these up over Friday

and Saturday and more than 160 civilians had come out of those

parts of the city. It is a claim that opposition activists denied.

They said this is all a lie and nobody has come out of those parts

of the city. Just describe the geography a bit more. This rebel

held part of the city, what is the picture elsewhere around Aleppo? As

far as Aleppo is concerned, very broadly speaking, if we had to

discuss how it is divided, the western part of the city is

controlled by the Government, there is a party to the east controlled by

the rebels, this part has been and circled, this is where the UN

estimates there are a quarter of a million people living there. While

the violence has certainly intensified, there is violence

taking place in other parts of Syria as well. Yesterday a Russian

helicopter was brought down over the area of a glib, this is a province

to the south-west of Aleppo. -- the area of Idlib. In the south, nine

civilians lost their lives in an attack on a hospital. Not the first

attack on a hospital, there have been many. The medics and the aid

agencies say they believe medical facilities are being directly

targeted. What sort of figures are there about the number of times

hospitals have been directly head? It is very hard to find an overall

estimate. -- directly head. In the past week, on Friday in addition to

this hospital we had a maternity hospital in the Idlib area, the

biggest maternity hospital operating there, supported by the charity

children macro, they say two civilians were killed -- supported

by the charity Save The Children. The UN says that four hospitals and

one blood bank have been destroyed in the rebel held area. Peace talks,

there have been talks about them possibly getting under way sometime

this month. What is the situation, what are the hopes for the talks

when the situation on the ground is as described? Over the weekend, we

had the UN Deputy special envoy to Syria visiting Damascus and speaking

to members of the Syrian Government, that was to discuss the process of

political transition, which would be imported to resume peace talks

between the Syrian Government as well and the opposition activists.

The UN has called for a US/ Russia deal to try to support these talks.

The big sticking point is the presidency of Basha Al Asad. While

Russia supported, the UN wants him to step down. In a situation with

escalating violence, at the moment it seems to be intensifying in

Aleppo, certainly the target that they had of resuming peace talks or

resuming the process from the 1st of August, that has been missed. Thank

you very much. Let's go to Mohammad Edel, who joins us via Skype from

Aleppo. He has lived there all his life and is married with a baby on

the way. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for having me. What is

happening with the rebel offensive in the rebel held part of the city?

AUDIO BREAKS UP. As you know, more than a quarter of a million are

besieged here. To stay alive, there is no fuel at all. No vegetables, no

fruit. No way of life at all. People are about to have, maybe two or

three weeks ago, to suffer from starvation or hunger. Can you hear

me? I am listening. Why stay? The Syrian and Russian aeroplanes are

always in the sky of Aleppo. People here are always calling on the

international community to save ourselves, but they always give deaf

ears and blind eyes to our calls. Is it safe to go out? Do you actually

go out? I like to stay here in my own home, in my own homeland. I have

grown up in this place in the free Syria, I don't want to leave my

home. If I went out, it means I will be kicked out of my home, and I want

to stay in my home even if I die. I mentioned that you have a baby on

the way. What other medical facilities going to be when your

partner goes into labour at once that baby is born? -- what are the

medical facilities? Aleppo is besieged right now. Depending on

what we have had before this siege -- (INAUDIBLE)

. I don't know, that it is our land, very important. We have to stay in

it, not leave it. It is land. -- it is our land. We appreciate you

talking to us, Mohammad Edel. Apologies for the quality of the

Skype line, I am sure you can understand why that is. Mohammad

Edel... Talking to us from Aleppo. Should the BBC have to named the TV

and radio stars who earn more than the Prime Minister? A group of MPs

think so. They are putting pressure on all presenters to -- who earn

more than ?143,000 a year to be identified.

Since the Islamic revolution of 1979, it's been compulsory

for women in Iran to wear the hijab - a law strictly enforced

Recently, campaigners have been using social media to protest

by defiantly posting photos of themselves

Now men are joining in to show solidarity with their female

relatives by posting pictures of themselves wearing hijabs.

With me now is campaigner Masih Alinejad an Iranian activist

based in New York who started the hashtag #meninhijab,

and Omid Memarian, an Iranian journalist and campaigner.

You actually started that men in hijab hash tag. Firstly, I am a

woman. I have been suffering all my life. Both wear a compulsory hijab.

I was told your hijab is a sign of your men relatives on. Presently,

the Foreign Minister of Iran went to France and visited a female

politician. We have been working on my freedom campaign for more than

three years and inviting female politicians to challenge when they

go and visit Iraq. One of the politicians in France challenged the

compulsory hijab wearing. The Foreign Minister of Iran's response

was, none of the people who visited Iran had a problem with compulsory

hijab. That is part of our culture. Women respect the culture of Iran

and do not have any problem. I know it is not a good thing but because

we have been forced and photo shopped, in our life in Iran, I

asked, how do you feel when you see a compulsory hijab on you? You feel

insulted and estranged. This is how we women of Iran field. A lot of men

has started to send in their own pictures to show their solidarity

and support Iranians women. It is obviously giving a different

perspective to men of how it feels to be wearing the hijab. I do not

know if you have ever put one on foot or you are a journalist

covering this, as it unfolds, and seeing the men who are putting on

the hijab. What is your perspective on it? I think it is a very

interesting campaign. It shows that what the Government officials are

saying, the hijab is not that women choose to wear -- some women choose

to wear hijab. There are many women inside Iran that is not their

choice. They have not chosen to wear a hijab. Such online campaigns show

the full nature of wearing a hijab inside the country and the hypocrisy

of the Iranian officials, trying to basically say that this is something

that people have chosen, and it is not. Do you think suggesting men try

them on and see how it feels will make a difference? I think that is

interesting. Once people see men in a hijab, they feel uncomfortable.

That discomfort shows the nature of -- the forced nature of the hijab

for women who have not chosen to do so. For men, for those who feel

uncomfortable, and feel it is not natural, but is basically the core

target of the campaign. This campaign and campaign similar to

this will stop the hijab, in Iran, is not something that everybody

agrees to. That is the powerful message it sends to society. Many

women inside the country. Even though they have to wear a hijab in

public, it is not something they have chosen. It is against their

rights. What were you trying to say? It is a good question, whether they

can feel it. For many men in Iran, the existence of women, they have

been educated that way. It is a casual link, or a sign of an honour

for family. For many men, when they see as in compulsory hijab every

day, they got used to seeing us like this. They think it is normal. For

many women in Iran, I have to say that all the women in my family,

they wear a hijab. I am not against them. I'm talking about freedom of

choice. For many women in Iran, the compulsory hijab is a sign of losing

your dignity. It means that you have to go out every day with fake

identity. We see that as an insult. Men got used to seeing us in our

compulsory hijab. They understand how we are freeing. Your campaigns

have had huge amount of attention and have got people talking. The

pictures we are seeing coming out of Iran of people taking off the hijab

or men putting it on, it is a snapshot. It is just a moment when a

picture is taken and then normal service, effectively, resumes. Do

you expect this really to make a difference in the end in Iran? I am

hopeful. As I said, we can not overthrow the regime overnight. What

you can do with the thought of the idea. Those people who still think

they own women and forcing women to wear a hijab, it is a sign of

honour. You have to make it work. Change will not come overnight. We

have to create is strong debate in society and talk to those people who

believe that women, it is like candy. If you don't cover yourself,

I'm telling you because there are a lot of people in Iran. Comparing

half of the population as a candy, or spoil food, and saying if you do

not cover yourself, it is like chocolate. You will get spoilt. You

have to create a debate and give a platform. It means that you empower

those people who never had the chance to be heard inside Iran. If

you turn on the TV in Iran, will you see is women in a hijab. Now,

through social media, you will see the powerful voice and you will see

the real face of Iran, which she never had the chance to see. When

you empower people, you can have hope. The Government cannot force

them, cannot deny them. When you see the official outside of Iran, they

use freedom of expression and media outside of Iran, they deny these

women. My job, as the pain, is this. Give voice to the voiceless people

and I believe change comes when people know and are aware of their

rights. The people who are taking these voters are people who are

already there, in terms of the same views that are being spoken of. Do

you believe it is being cut through beyond that? I think it is. In Iran,

it is costly for people to publicly criticise the Government on policies

they had been forcing for decades. In particular, it has become one of

the elements of identity of the Islamic Republic. Without the hijab,

we have a few things. The Islamic Republic, it is really costly for

Iranians to challenge the Government on the hijab. When we have such

campaigns online, on social media, I think people find a voice to show

their objection to some of the policies that are not very popular

but people cannot talk about it. We see men and women both objecting to

such policies. I think this is a reflection of a very popular demand

inside the country. Thank you both very much. We're glad to know what

you think about this, so do get in touch, in all the usual ways, with

your thoughts on that. The men and women hoping

to fill this man's shoes. We speak to four of the seven vying

to replace Nigel Farage and become If you have any thoughts or

questions about that, do let us know. The usual ways of getting in

touch. A group of MPs is demanding

that the BBC should publish the pay of all its stars who earn more

than the Prime Minister's The Acting Chairman of the Commons

Culture Committee, Damian Collins, says it's disengenuous for the BBC

to claim confidentiality. The point - he says -

is that all the salaries are paid Well, currently, the BBC reveals

salaries of stars earning more than ?450,000 a year,

and the details of its executives For more about this,

let's talk to Neil Midgely - the Daily Telegraph's

media commentator - As I said, the BBC has said it is

happy to publish the salaries of stars over 450,000 but now MPs say

it has to be over 140 3000. Why has the BBC set the bar so high first of

all? ?450,000 is what the director-general of the BBC and.

That is probably the reason for that particular figure. I think the BBC

has offered to name the stars above that level. Not necessarily to say

specifically how much they are paid, which is a

different thing. At the moment, it is a legal minefield. It is a very

difficult argument to call either way. There are data protection

issues around the stars with a C, personal data. Also, talent

contracts for Graham Norton and Gary Lineker come up for renewal every

two or three years, unlike staff contracts for senior managers. Those

confidentiality clauses have to be renegotiated each time. The stars do

have an opportunity at that point if they are marketable and some deals

once them to go to another broadcaster. The BBC would genuinely

have great difficulty in implementing this new rule. Having

said that, I think there should be transparency. 143,000 is as good a

place to start as any, given that most licensed the players, I think,

believe the Prime Minister is probably quite well paid and anyone

getting more than that, on the public dining, should probably be

transparent, and have their salaries published. It is possible that

Graham Norton is the highest-paid public servant in the country. I

think most licensed the players should say, yes, we should know how

much we are paying him. -- license the players. Will the BBC fight it

and the MPs force it? They will not force it. The committee is an

influential body which backed the new BBC chairman, for example, every

time some new is appointed. It does influential and well-prepared

reports. The Government is in charge. The Government decides what

the provisions are for the BBC's new charter, which needs to come into

effect on the 1st of January. Have a change of government at the moment.

With Hinkley Point, we have seen that Theresa May is very willing to

take things which already appear to have been decided by the garment and

reopen them. We have already had a white paper on the future of the

BBC. -- by the Government. That would have turned into the next

royal charter without much change that now we have a new Prime

Minister, a new Culture Secretary. John Whittingdale is gone. It may be

that the issue of talent pay, it might, again. Thank you for joining

us. Let's get the latest

weather update with Carol. Mixed fortunes with the weather

today. Some things and shine, others rain. We have some cracking pictures

to show you. This one from Bath, where it is raining in Cumbria is

seeing some rain. We have some more rain across North Yorkshire. Quite a

lot of rain across parts of England and Wales. Bat rain will continue to

move northwards as we go through the course of today. It is the north of

Scotland which will hang on to the sunshine for the longest period of

time was up the area of low pressure is driving our weather. One front is

going to be eased with another on its heels. In the middle of these

fronts, it is muggy. A lot of dampness around and fairly cloudy.

The satellite picture shows currently where there are breaks in

the cloud and sunshine. Across Wales and parts of southern England, the

rain is lighter. The first front is going across the South, across the

tunnel islands and into the South East. The far north of Scotland is

hanging onto the brightest skies. -- the channel islands. The rain across

western Scotland but there is sunshine across the Highlands and

most of the Grampian. The cloud will build through the course of the day.

I was in Edinburgh, up to 18. In the north of England, ill be cloudy and

dank with spot at the moment. Nothing more than that. The rain

more moving -- be rain will move in. They'll be some breaks in the cloud.

Where that happens, the temperatures will rise. Hill fog around in

England. This evening and overnight, there goes the rain. If anything, it

will rejuvenate. The tail end of it will come across southern England

and the Channel Islands. We have rain coming in from the West. It is

that area of low pressure getting closer to us. Tomorrow, what you

will find, it will continue with ours. We have it moving steadily out

towards the sea. You can see where we have the low pressure with the

front moving across it. Heavy rain for Northern Ireland and Scotland

which will turn more showery during the day. Across England and Wales,

dry with sunshine. Possibly showers across Wales. The main feature

tomorrow will be the wind. We could see gales across the Irish Sea,

particularly off the coasts of Wales. If you are on holiday

thinking about taking out a small vessel, a small boat can do bear

that in mind. It could be problematic. Equally if you are

camping. Inland, we're looking at just of wind up to 40 miles an hour.

-- gusts of wind. Something to bear in mind if you're camping.

Welcome to the programme, if you've just joined us.

Evidence that the housing crisis has spread from London to the north -

with people less likely to own their own home now

We speak to a father of three desperate to buy his own home.

It can prevent the risk of HIV by 90% but who should pay for it?

A high court judge will decide whether the NHS or your local

council should fund the daily pill, known as PrEP, that's been described

They say funding it now will save money in the long run. Improve

response to the HIV epidemic and reduce the number of people who need

lifelong HIV treatment, up money from HIV treatment for treatment for

cancer and all other drugs. And this is about one of hip-hop's

stars, it means he could be about to release his much anticipated second

album. Some people are literally glued to that, trying to see if it

means anything significant. We will tell you all about it.

Here's Rebecca in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

The number of people who own their own home has slumped

to their lowest levels since the 1980s.

Research from the think-tank the Resolution Foundation says

regions in the north and the Midlands becoming

Along with London and the south-east.

The biggest fall in home ownership has been in Manchester.

It has fallen almost 15% since a peak in 2003.

Our business correspondent Victoria Fritz has the details

After booming in the 1980s, home ownership has

But now new analysis shows homeownership in England

The Resolution Foundation says the number of people

who own their home has dropped to 64%, down 7% from

The biggest falls have been in Greater Manchester and outer

London, although the West Midlands and West Yorkshire have also

Northern Ireland has seen the most dramatic switch

The think-tank which carried out this analysis argues

that the housing crisis is no longer confined to London.

They also warn it's threatening to reduce living standards

In response, the Government says policies like Right to Buy

and starter homes mean that more than a decade-long decline in home

The Prime Minister Theresa May has acknowledged there's more to do,

although some experts argue that the move towards renting

could also be due to changing lifestyles

The High Court will decide later whether the NHS in England should

It's called PrEP and has been shown to reduce the risk of transmission

-- by more than 80%. It costs around ?400 per person. A charity launched

an appeal after the NHS decided not to pay for it.

Nick Perry has been taking PrEP as part of a drugs

trial called Proud - he described the benefits

I feel it is liberating for my own personal reasons, and I know that

plenty of other gay men that I have spoken to about it feel the same

way, it is about not being afraid of sex any more.

A man and woman have been charged in connection with the death

of a baby in Gloucester over the weekend.

The three-month-old boy was treated at Bristol Children's Hospital,

Hannah Henry, 20, and 26-year-old Alistair Walker from Gloucester,

will appear at Cheltenham Magistrates' Court later

The police investigation into the baby's death continues.

The UK's new European Commissioner will lead the EU's battle against

terrorism and crime. Sir Julian King was offered the post this morning by

commission President Jean-Claude Junker. The European Parliament must

now approve the appointment. A group of MPs is calling on the BBC

to disclose which of its stars earn more than the Prime Minister -

that's ?143,000 a year. The Culture, Media and Sport

Committee says there's no good reason for performers,

presenters or executives It also says there should be

a separate Six O'Clock Hundreds of people protested

yesterday outside a branch They're angry at the company's role

in a raid by immigration officers on staff who didn't have the right

documents to stay in the country. 35 people were arrested

in the operation. There were reports that a training

event had been set up to lure workers to a location

where they would be arrested. Byron has said it was

complying with the law. That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 10:30am. Still to come, we will talk to some

of the candidates vying to replace Nigel Farage as the leader of Ukip.

What should the party focus on is the breakfast that matter as the

Brexit vote has been won. He said that the party was like turkeys

voting for Christmas! Do get in touch with us

throughout the morning - If you text, you will be charged

at the standard network rate. Now, John Watson has the sport -

and good news for Lizzie Armistead, After facing a ban from

the Olympics, one of Britain's best medal hopes at the Rio Olympics,

cyclist Lizzie Armitstead has After missing three drug tests,

Armitstead proved to the Court of Arbitration for Sport

that on one occasion, anti-doping officers had not tried

hard enough to find her. In a statement Armitstead she has

always been and will always So, Lizzie Armitstead is still among

Team GB's medal hopes. But how many can we realistically

expect to win in Rio? London 2012 was a spectacular Games,

of course, with 65 podium finishes. But the target here is 48,

which would beat the record for an overseas games set in Beijing

eight years ago. We believe this is the most talented

squad we've ever had, we've got 366 athletes,

a big team. I don't want to single out one

sport, but I spent a lot of time in swimming recently and they feel

they are in the mix. It is a very confident squad,

more than 47 will be a best ever for us, post-Beijing,

anything north of 65 takes us Probably not, but we are gunning

for better than 47. Sweeney says there'll be a fairly

small delegation of Team GB athletes marching at the opening ceremony

on Friday, with most of the squad still up

in the Belo Horizonte training camp, about an hour's

flight away from Rio. It's been a brand new experience

for many athletes - notably the Rugby 7s teams,

with their sport making The men's competition

begins a week today, with the women getting started this

Saturday. Obviously it is the first time any

of us have ever been at an Olympic Games,

we are trying to soak it up as much as possible but trying to retain

focus on what we had to do. We are already here in the holding

camp, rants of the swimmers. The athletes arrived the other day.

Household names are already around us, hugely inspiring.

"Hard working and greedy" is how Kadeena Cox laughingly described

herself, after being picked to represent Paralympics

Cox is already a world champion in cycling and athletics -

and next month she'll become the first competitor since 1992

to represent Great Britain in more than one sport.

It's crazy and exciting, and I'm really looking forward to it. It is

a challenge that I wanted to undertake from the beginning, to

finally be able to say that I am about to embark on it is super

exciting, crazy at the same time. I like to be Kadeena, Kadeena is

unique, I have a unique name, so I live up to it. It is good to do

something that not many have attempted to do and, hopefully, make

some history. Concerns over pollution

and construction remain in Rio. Team GB's sailors are preparing

to compete in some of the most polluted waters around

the city in Gunabara Bay. And that's if they can even get

to the water after a boat ramp at the sailing venue collapsed,

raising further questions One thing that is holding strong

is this Lego model of Rio. It took a year and almost a million

pieces to put together the 25 scenes, including the Olympic rings,

the stadiums and other iconic Rio One thing that has been delivered on

time ahead of the Rio cut games. -- Rio Games.

That is all the sport for now, more later.

Today we'll find out which candidates can stand

as contenders for Ukip's leadership to replace Nigel Farage.

The party's National Executive Committee will make

the final decision - but the former leader has described

the executive committee as amateurs and the lowest grade of people that

He's urged candidates to poll the party membership

The apparent frontrunner MEP Steven Woolfe missed the nominations

deadline and is waiting to hear whether he can stand.

Officially six candidates have declared their intention to stand.

These are, as we just mentioned, Steven Woolfe, Lisa Duffy,

Bill Etheridge, Jonathan Arnott, Philip Broughton and Liz Jones.

We'll be speaking to some of those candidates in a moment.

First our political correspondent Carole Walker joins us from

Westminster. Is it clear whether or not Steven Woolfe will be able to

stand? It is still very much in doubt. You have quite a line-up of

the candidates, but not Steven Woolfe. He is probably the

frontrunner, but he missed the deadline for getting his application

in. He has blamed the Ukip technicalities, that the website

simply was not working, he was trying to get his application

through but it eventually landed about 17 minutes late. Since then,

it has emerged that he forgot to mention a previous drink-driving

conviction when he ran to be the Police and Crime Commissioner in

Greater Manchester back in 2012. This offence had occurred ten years

previously, he said he simply forgot about it, but that is a further

cloud over his application, clearly. We have a panel of the National

Executive Committee meeting today to look at all the applicants. They

could decide whether or not Steven Woolfe will be on that list. But

they could also decide that because there is such a row about all of

this, it is better to put it back to the full National Executive

Committee. But as you mentioned in the introduction, there is a huge

amount of infighting behind-the-scenes. The outgoing

leader, Nigel Farage, yesterday described the NEC as some of the

lowest grade of people I've ever met. He described them as total

amateurs who turn up for meetings in London with sandwiches in their

rucksacks for meetings that go on for seven hours. I am not sure it is

too serious a crime to have sandwiches in your rucksack, but

there is clearly a huge amount of manoeuvring and infighting going on

behind-the-scenes. Is that the worst of the offences, that is what I was

just thinking. If Steven Woolfe does not get to stand, what about the

others? Is there a standout favourite? I think that would put

the field wide open. Les Jones is certainly not well known to the

wider public. She was out and about on the radio talking about her track

record -- Liz Jones is certainly not wandered to the wider public. Two

MEPs are standing. Another councillor, Lisa Duffy, has the

backing of quite a few senior figures in the party. They see her

as somebody who would modernise the party, she is a councillor with a

track record of working for Ukip in Cambridgeshire. I think the fields

would be wide open. It is interesting that this is a party

which, after all, garnered almost 4 million votes at the last general

election, a party whose pressure certainly contributed to David

Cameron calling the EU referendum which ultimately lost him his job,

and there is now a field of people who are certainly not household

names looking to take on the party and looking to what the party will

stand for, what is its big motivation going to be now that the

country has voted to leave the EU? When is the decision taken? The

final decision, we get it later in September, September the 15th. We

will get the final result. There is a full summer of campaigning and a

chance for some of those lesser-known candidates to put

themselves forward, make themselves known, get out and about around the

country and make sure that the members of Ukip and the wider public

get to know who they are. Thank you, Carole

Now we can talk to four of those candidates who have said

they are standing: Liz Jones the Deputy Chairman

for the Lambeth branch of Ukip, Lisa Duffy, a district

councillor on Huntingdon, Jonathan Arnott, the MEP

for the North East, and Bill Etheridge, MEP

Carole describes you all is not being household names, so if you

would introduce yourselves to us, starting with you, Liz Introduce

yourselves, tell us what you think Ukip is for, going forward? My

neighbours Elizabeth Jones, I'm the deputy chairwoman of Ukip Lambeth,

one of the most Europhile areas in the entire country. I am also on the

NEC, the National Executive Committee, and I am a divorce lawyer

of some 20 years standing based in London. I have worked in the private

sector my entire life, I am not a professional politician. My deputy

is councillor Lawrence Webb, the Ukip leader in the London Borough of

Hague and he has a great deal of campaign experience behind him. We

have contested 33 elections for Ukip and we have about 100,000 votes. My

platform is one of opportunity and trade. Also, we have is to accept

that the challenge for the new Ukip leader will have changed. Our

primary motive for setting of Ukip was to leave the EU. Stage one of

that has been passed. We have to pass onto stage two and get some MPs

into Westminster. I wish I had started with a stopwatch. Lisa? I am

Cancer Lisa Duffy, I have been parted Ukip for 12 years and I have

been a huge part of the success where we have got to today. I built

at the young independents, I have been their party director, I have

built the team that managed the assessment centres. What is your

vision? We do not need Nigel Farage the second. We need someone with a

proven track record. I have done that through Westminster

by-elections. What would Ukip stand for? We have a fully costed

manifesto for 2015. We need to make sure we put some traction underneath

that. Fell those policies and do not be afraid about talking about

integration. It is important that the party continues on the strength

it has that now is the time to show the electorate we can go to

Westminster. I am Jonathan Arnott, a former maths teacher. I have spent

six years with Ukip. I'm a member of the European Parliament for

north-east England. My campaign is all about reaching out to be 13.6

million people out there, who voted for Brexit, but did not vote Ukip at

the last general election. We need to be the party that is never, ever,

ever anti-immigrant. It is anti-controlled immigration. There

may be some tweaks needed to our policies slightly. Actually, what we

stand for, we need to get out there and communicate. We need to show our

vision for what the UK could be like post-Brexit. Our equivalent perhaps

of Reagan was Max shining city on a hill. That show what the UK can be

like and use that as our way to build for the future and get Ukip

the sea to need in Westminster, to make a difference for people in this

country. My name is Bill Etheridge. I am a councillor in deadly. I am

also an MEP for the West Midlands. I have seen politics domestically and

in Europe. My whole platform for selection is combined with my

running mate, Mike Bookham, the defence spokesman for Ukip. We are

looking to reform the party to make this a more effective mechanism and

declare war on cronyism within the party. After that we want to be a

voice for the people against the establishment. We want to tackle the

issues that get voided by everyday politicians and make a change in

this country. Personal liberty and freedom are top of the list. Lisa,

you talked about integration. Jonathan Parr me talked about not

being anti-immigrant but anti-immigration. Tell us more about

what you mean when you talk, Lisa Duffy, about having a vision for a

modernised Britain. I will be launching as part of my campaign.

What I want to talk about today is integration. We feel the UK is a

fantastic place. As Jonathan said in the past, we need to get the great

back into Great Britain. That is platitudes. What about specific

policy? I will be launching properly with a full speech, either at the

end of this week beginning of next week. What we have to think about is

there are huge amounts of Muslim people, British Muslims, living in

our country, who do not get full equality. When Jonathan talks about

immigration, it is about having a fair immigration policy. Spell out

what you mean by full equality? You must have a specific policy. If you

think about young, Muslim women, they do not have the same rights. I

worked with many of them when I was in Manchester. When I was working in

Woking. These young ladies wanted to go out and follow western styles.

They wanted to go out with boyfriends but they were being

restricted. You have FGM and arranged marriages. We need to think

about what being a British Muslim means in this day and age. On a full

manifesto, we will be selling it. You have a policy on this. You want

to ban the Burke, tell us why? I do not mind what people do for their

religious values of their cultural values. We are in a security

situation. If you are in a public place, you need to show your face

and that means any face covering. That is part of Ukip policy already,

having your face not covered in high security areas. That is the policy

we have all been backing for the last few years. The way you have to

look at this is simple. It is the motorcycle helmet test. If there is

an area where you could not go someone wearing a motorcycle helmet,

it is inappropriate for people to then be wearing this. If it is not

secure, to be in a place where your face cannot be seen, that is a

problem. I would not say you ban it simply for people walking down the

street. That would be going too far. You are qualified and what you

think. It is a security issue as far as I am concerned. That does not

mean you ban it everywhere. How do you draw the line, someone walking

down the street? If you look, for example, if you are going through

airport security, you need to show your face. That does not sound the

party policy you talking about. I am talking about high security areas. A

blanket ban. My view is we have to take a delicate approach to this. We

do not want to do anything which is counter-productive. We look at the

desperately tragic incidents that happened in France recently, luckily

they have not happened in the United Kingdom. I think that is because we

have developed a very good relationship in the United Kingdom

with all the national groups who live here. I think that needs to be

maintained and cherished. I am a family solicitor. Ideal intimately

with many divorces that involve people who are from very religious

backgrounds who do wear this garment. We need to take a very

subtle approach. I think it does send out a very strong message to

perhaps many non-Muslim women, and many moderate Muslim women, that

this is excluding women from public society. I think, with regard to

security measures, in courts, as Jonathan says, in airports, anywhere

where there is a serious security risk, I think the face will have to

be uncovered. This is absolutely different to how a lot of people

will see it about religious sensitivities. When you make

comments like that, where do you think that leaves tolerance? I have

just said we must not do anything that is counter-productive. I have

just said we have a very good relationship with all the

communities in this country, probably far more so than in France.

Let's not forget, in Iran, and in Turkey, those two countries, as I

understand, have banned this garment. I am sure they know far

better than we do about security risks. We need to take an approach

which is not counter-productive, is inclusive, but is also ensuring our

safety. I think it should not be worn in court. It is incredible that

anyone giving witness in court has their faces covered. It should not

be worn in an airport situation. In a private setting, of course, you

wear whatever you wish. If you're walking down the street, I do not

see a major issue with that unless it is likely to lead to a security

risk. It is all about security and inclusion. We want everyone to being

deluded -- be included in the country. There was a rise in number

of attacks burble and otherwise for people living in this country

whether by descent of first generation. Are you sensitive to

those sorts of issues? Of course we are sensitive to those issues. In

the referendum campaign, the project via was telling anybody who opposed

uncontrolled immigration, you said earlier that I had expressed

opinions that are anti-immigration. I did nothing of the sort. What I

said was we must be controlled to Daschle opposed to uncontrolled mass

immigration. It is all about control. -- opposed. Many have

people on the other side of the debate who tried to make and used

stand on something you do not stand for, try to make it out you believe

in something you do not believe. It will heighten tension. Do people

hear what they want and therefore comments that are made can give rise

to justification for something that perhaps you do not agree with? I

must take you to task. I have heard time and again that there is

allegedly a massive increase, not massive, but an increase

post-Brexit. Someone said something that someone disagrees with on

Twitter. Someone said something someone disagrees with on Facebook.

I will take you to task. There was one major incident, which was

misrepresented by the Evening Standard in London. And that was in

a London- Polish community centre. That had graffiti written on it.

This was misrepresented by the media as being racist. Oh NP is a Polish

language think tank which was supportive of Brexit. Sounds like

there was a swearword alongside it to. In terms of hate crimes on the

council I sit on and Huntingdonshire, we took a unanimous

vote on supporting anti-hate crimes. None of us agrees with it. Even in

the local community I live in in Ramsey in Cambridgeshire, we had

reports of immigrants having doors knocked on saying, if we get Brexit,

they will send you home. This is Project Beer. I'm hoping now that

this is getting less and less. I'm hoping anything we get about this

will have a definite outcome. Why did this still need to exist when

Britain is still leaving the EU? It is happening. Ukip needs to exist

more than ever. The whole point, why most of us are involved in Ukip, it

was not just about leaving the EU. It was opening the doors that we

could make some serious and radical changes to our country. We have to

get rid of the overpowering states. Too many rules and regulations and

too much taxation. Let's give people more freedom. Freedom to keep money

in your pocket with a total change to the tax system. Make it simpler.

Let's look at replacing VAT and allow real competition across the

country on taxation. The kind of innovations we can bring into play

now on Security and the economy can make our country a better and safer

place. Ukip can be the voice of the people against the tired old

astonishment that kept them down for so long. This is our time to really

represent the people. Bill is right on that. The way I'd best place, I

am a local councillor, I am grass-roots. I had been in the party

for 12 years. I have been building up Westminster by-election is

knocking on doors, hearing what the British public is asking for. Going

forward we all of the agreement it is about Westminster, building on

the policies we have already been having a leader that is able to

build teams and bring people together. We need to be the party

that is not just about bringing from Brussels to Westminster but taking

the power from Westminster and it brings it back into the hands of the

people. We need to reach out to working class communities, people

who have been despised by the Conservatives were so long and find

themselves completely abandoned by the Labour Party. Ukip has a massive

potential for a breakthrough in places like Hartlepool, in my

constituency. We were just 3000 votes short of beating Labour at the

last election. If there were a general election tomorrow, I'm sure

we would take seats like Hartlepool. We took about issues that actually

matter to working people. We are out of time. We'll get that result,

September 15. Those campaigning and policy announcements between now and

then. Thank you. We're expecting a ruling very

shortly on whether the NHS in England should fund a new drug

to prevent HIV. We'll be live at the High Court

when that decision is announced. And coming up, is the long-awaited

second album from Frank Ocean First, let's catch up with the news,

with Rebecca in the BBC newsroom. Levels of home ownership have

fallen to their lowest levels since the 1980s,

according to new analysis. The think tank, The Resolution

Foundation, says the housing crisis in London has now spread,

with regions in the north and the Midlands becoming

increasingly unaffordable. The biggest fall in home ownership

has been in Manchester. The High Court will decide shortly

whether the NHS in England should It's called PrEP and has been

shown to reduce the risk The idea is to give the daily drug

to uninfected gay men as a preventative measure

against the virus - a treatment campaigners

call a "game changer". But NHS England argues

that it is not legally allowed to commission the drug,

as HIV prevention services are the responsibility

of local authorities. A man and woman have been charged

in connection with the death of a baby in Gloucester

over the weekend. The three-month-old boy was treated

at Bristol Children's Hospital Hannah Henry, who is 20

and 26-year-old Alistair Walker from Gloucester will appear

at Cheltenham Magistrates Court A police investigation

into the baby's death continues. The sudden collapse of a bridge has

caused major disruption to trains between the East Midlands and

London. The road bridge crossing a railway line near Loughborough

collapsed in the early hours. Trains between London and Nottingham, Derby

and Leicester have been cancelled or delayed. Network Rail has been

working to clear the route but does not expected to reopen quickly. --

does not expect it. The UK's new European Commissioner

is to lead the EU's battle Sir Julian King was offered

the post this morning by the Commission President,

Jean Claude Juncker. The European Parliament must now

approve the appointment. A group of MPs is calling on the BBC

to disclose which of its stars earn more than the Prime Minister -

that's ?143,000 a year. The Culture, Media and Sport

Committee says there's no good reason for performers,

presenters or executives It also says there should be

a separate Six O'Clock That's a summary of the latest

news, join me for BBC We are just hearing from the courts

that the National AIDS Trust has won its case against the NHS over the

HIV prevention drug PrEP. The National AIDS Trust argued that the

NHS should pay for that drug. The NHS had said it was not even legally

allowed to fund it because HIV prevention services are the domain

of local authorities. The NHS was fighting the prospect of funding

that drug on that basis. The National AIDS Trust took a legal

case and it has now won. It does not mean the drug automatically gets

funded by the NHS. There may, obviously, be an appeal. Even if

there is not, what would have to happen is that the issues around the

viability of funding and whether it is cost-effective would need to be

looked at by the NHS for it gets the go-ahead, but the National AIDS

Trust has won that ruling at the High Court, we will get you more on

that as soon as we can. Now, John Watson has

the sports headlines. Not long to go until the start of

the Rio Olympics. After facing a possible

ban from the Olympics, Cyclist Lizzie Armitstead has been

cleared to compete. Having missed three drug tests over

the course of 12 months, which would have led

to a suspension, Armitstead proved to the Court of Arbitration

for Sport that one of those missed tests was the fault

of anti-doping officials. There are ongoing concerns

over pollution ahead of the start of the Olympics,

just days away. Anyone involved in sports

on the open water have been warned to keep their mouths closed,

to lower the risk of picking up a virus from

the polluted waters in Rio. Former Derby County boss

Paul Clement has confirmed he turned down a coaching role with England

under new boss Sam Allardyce. Clement has been an assistant

manager to Carlo Ancelotti at German champions Bayern Munich

since he was sacked And Warwickshire all-rounder

Chris Woakes says it's been a surreal summer,

as he prepares to play in his first Test match at his home

ground of Edgbaston. Woakes has been one of the stand-out

performers with bat England's third Test

against Pakistan starts tomorrow, And that is all the sport for now,

back to you, Joanna. If you live in the UK, you're less

likely to own your own home than at any time since the 1980s -

that's according to a new report. The social policy think tank

The Resolution Foundation says the housing crisis in the London

area has spread, with regions in the Midlands and north becoming

increasingly unaffordable. Greater Manchester has seen

the biggest drop in home It peaked at 72% in

2003, but is now 58%. Joining us in our Edinburgh

studio is Andrew Steel - he's a father of three

from Livingston, who's struggling And with me here in the studio

is Conor D'arcy, policy analyst at the Resolution Foundation,

which has put the report together. Thank you both for joining us. Talk

is through the figures, what have you found? We have seen a really big

drop, we are back to the levels of home ownership that we saw in the

80s. The story around the housing crisis is that London housing is

badly affected, it is difficult to get on a housing ladder here. That

is borne out by the findings. But what is left in the public

consciousness is that this has spread across the country,

particularly the north. In Manchester we have seen a sharp

drop, but also in cities like Leeds and Sheffield. Why do you think that

is? Incomes have not been able to keep up with house prices. House

prices have risen and risen and risen, the amount you need to save

to get a deposit has gone up. Even before the crisis, the incomes of

typical families have not kept pace with the risers, so trying to get

the money together to afford the home is very difficult. Andrew, you

are joining us from Edinburgh, you are from Livingston, Telus your

experience? My partner and I both have full-time employment, but as

you'll contributed just said, we are unable to save, to put something

aside to pay for a deposit. We are taking a risk if we apply for a

mortgage. We both working full-time, unfortunately we are having to look

further afield for work. I work in the public sector. My wages have not

kept up with what it would take to pay for that mortgage. And

fortunately we have had to move in with our mother-in-law to support

our children -- unfortunately we have had to. Can you see the

situation changing. You are talking about looking further afield, are

there possibilities elsewhere? My job is 125 miles from my home

address, I had to travel there. It was the job that I wanted, the only

job that would have me at the moment. Trying to get onto that

property ladder, saving, commuting, paying for the things you had to pay

for, it is not enough. I am not paid enough. You can't put things aside.

All the savings that we have go towards paying for family holidays,

I am not prepared to say to my children, sorry, we can't go on a

family holiday because your parents don't earn enough. Does home

ownership matter to you? Yes, it does. It would give as a place to

call roam. It is unfortunate that we are stuck in a position where we are

living with a family member -- a place to call our own. The only

chance others getting on a property ladder is for that family member to

pass on and leave the house to us. I don't want to be in that position, I

know my partner does not. I would like my own home, I would like that

when my children grow up they can afford their own homes as well.

Conor, is that a pretty typical example of the sort of things you

are hearing? I think so. The intergenerational point is key. As

Andrew said, at the moment it is difficult to try to get by, making

difficult decisions about whether to go on holiday or other things to do.

It is the longer term issue of when he is retired, if you are still

renting, having extra costs going out, you are not building the assets

that people rely on in the future and want to pass down to their kids,

so it is a long-term problem as well short term. Obviously if people are

unable to afford to buy, you would say market forces would mean that

house prices would drop, looking back to what has happened in the

past and the trends now, is it likely that the balance be re-struck

in order to make less of a gap between incomes and house prices? It

looks unlikely at the moment, but the focus from Theresa May's

Government has to be putting the focus on building more houses,

increasing the supply in places where the risen high demand,

Edinburgh, Manchester, where more and more families are looking to get

onto the ladder. We talked about the private rented sector, that can be

very good, especially for younger people, but it is about improving

the security of the tenancies, improving the quality and

overcrowding. Victoria on Facebook, my husband and I are on ?38,000 and

?48,000, good salaries, it is depressing that we can't afford to

pay for our own home because we are paying ?800 a month in rent. We have

only managed to save ?7,000, I am 43, my husband is 42, we are

Generation Rent. Matt says something has to give, but as it is so heavily

linked to the economy I doubt the Government will do anything. Chris

says the buy to let market has driven house prices up, due to

interest rates being so low. Those with money to invest have bought out

the stock. Private landlord should have to abide by the same rules as

social tenants. -- social landlords. Another person says that property

landlords now owed more than highly paid professionals, no wonder

everybody wants to be one. The Government says that continuing

decline in home ownership has been halted because of rights to buy and

other initiatives. What difference have those initiatives made? They

have definitely helped, but the target group and those who have most

benefited those trying to get on the housing ladder, two burners on

?30,000 or ?40,000, better off than most. These types of policies are

likely to help them. But for people lower down the ladder it is much

more difficult to build up a deposit in the first place, even with the

help of these policies. Andrew, could those policies help you? If

they could help us, it would be helpful for the Government, both the

UK Government and the devolved Government, to show us how to access

these schemes, gives us better advice and support on how to access

these schemes and how to get on that property ladder, I just don't see

that. What would you do? I think I will just have to carry on trying to

save, trying to get on that property ladder, hopefully at some point the

housing prices in my area will come down, hopefully at some point my

partner and I can move out and have a place of Rome, have the security

which we really want. As you says, are you seeing prices going up,

which is always soul destroying when you are constantly trying to catch

up? -- as you save? Yes, we are trying to put aside, get ourselves

up to that level so that we can afford, unfortunately it is not

happening because the housing prices are going up faster than wages.

Grant has e-mailed, what has not been mentioned, the buy to let trend

may have a consequence on the amount of properties available to buy. Some

landlords have more than 300 houses on their books, diminishing the

housing stock available to buy. These are usually affordable

first-time buyer type houses. Jane, one contributing factor never

mentioned is the impact of university debt. Few graduates and

young professionals can afford to buy in their 20s because they are

saddled with debt. Stuart says my granny saved for years to get a

mortgage, then paid 25 years paying the ?800 back. Times change, the

struggle does not. Thank you for joining us and for your comments.

Still to come, the live stream where nothing much happens, so why has it

got so many people excited? It could be that one hip-hop star is about to

release his much anticipated second album.

The High Court has ruled that a drug that can prevent HIV can be funded

by the NHS. It is a victory for a leading AIDS charity. Let's go to

Richard, who is outside the court. Tell us what this ruling will mean.

I think it is very significant. Mr Justice Green, the judge, has ruled

in favour of the National aids trust, which brought this case to

the High Court. He has said NHS England has made a mistake. Saying

it did not have the power all the duties to prevent the drug. He is

saying the NHS in England does have a broad, preventative role in

treatment of HIV and the NHS does have the power to commission these

preventative treatments. A pretty clear ruling from him. It is not the

end of the story. There will be an appeal, certainly the possibility of

an appeal, that the judges saying he wants to have done as quickly as

possible. There is another stage which is the NHS in England as to

commission the drug. They have been talking about dealing with many new

drugs, whether to commission them or not. It is not clear how long that

process would last. I have been speaking to the national aids trust.

They are hoping it could be done as quickly as possible. In theory the

drug could be available to those who need it. It could drag on for some

time and is not clear at this stage. Mr Khan electrified the convention,

challenging Donald Trump to read the US Constitution. It Donald Trump

called it a vicious attack. Mr Khan said the Republican candidate cannot

insult Muslim men and women and members of the party and not face

criticism. He is not capable of understanding.

He lacks empathy. He lacks empathy. It will never come to him. The

reason for that is, his leadership has come to him behind closed doors.

It is public knowledge that all patriotically American Republican

leaders have cancelled him on behaviour and fear mongering. You

must have read the press release of Congressman the catheter to speak up

of the house. There is no room for bashing Muslims in politics. -- be

Speaker. The moral burden on the leadership of the Republican party

will haunt them if they do not differ so is it themselves from him.

What do you think - the Republican party should apologise to you?

Apologies are needed. This is political discourse is taking place.

This will affect the lives of millions and millions of Americans

and the rest of the world is watching, because of the political

season in America. America is cherished, valued. The system is

given respect. This demagogue, this fear mongering, this person who

insults all ethnicities, women, judges, continues to his ways. The

Republican party should cancel him and the time has come. He will not

change. They should repudiate him, disassociates from him. Otherwise,

this moral, ethical burden will remain on their souls.

Frank Ocean's long awaited follow-up album could be

Four years after the singer released his debut, Channel Orange,

a mysterious stream has appeared on his website.

The tease shows what looks to be a woodwork bench in a warehouse.

Ocean was supposed to have an album out in July 2015 but it

never came and the wait for his fans has continued.

Since the stream appeared people have taken to Twitter

Let's speak now to Sam Wolfson who is the Executive Editor of Vice UK.

And Kieran Yates who's a freelance music journalist.

Thank you, both. Is this a masterclass in how to get attention?

I think so. There has been a lot of anticipation for this album,

probably more than anything else. Every time there is a new release

date, the internet gets into a buzz and feels let down. Everyone thought

it was coming out and then it was not. People were getting furious.

There is a strange stream. If you watch it, there is basically nothing

going on, just an empty workshop. Slowly you see a guy sort of

chopping wood in half. If you look at the progress he has made from the

beginning of the estate to the end of this today, it is not that much.

-- the beginning of yesterday. How much time Harry spent watching this?