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Our top story, plans have been unveiled that should lead to a cut | :00:08. | :00:15. | |
That's after Ofgem accepted a series of reforms. We will bring you the | :00:16. | :00:28. | |
details. Also today, as MPs tell local | :00:29. | :00:31. | |
authorities that not enough is being done to settle Syrian | :00:32. | :00:34. | |
refugees in this country the head of the Local Government Association | :00:35. | :00:37. | |
tells this programme they are on target and places | :00:38. | :00:38. | |
are ready and waiting. And later, we'll be | :00:39. | :00:43. | |
hearing Adrienne's story. She is a transgender woman living | :00:44. | :00:45. | |
in Belfast where same sex marriage is still not legal and she tells us | :00:46. | :00:48. | |
about how the community reacted I didn't really think that I would | :00:49. | :01:03. | |
ever find an acceptance in a Christian church that was able to | :01:04. | :01:09. | |
worlds that coexisted, but existed together and being here and being | :01:10. | :01:15. | |
who I am, you know, it made it so much more real to worship as a | :01:16. | :01:20. | |
person I was always meant to be. Lots coming up we are going to take | :01:21. | :01:30. | |
a look at how you can save money on your energy bills as the body | :01:31. | :01:36. | |
in charge of the big suppliers says more will be done to help people | :01:37. | :01:40. | |
switch more easily and pre-paid meters will have | :01:41. | :01:43. | |
a limit set on them. Get in touch with your experience | :01:44. | :01:45. | |
of trying to find the best deals Do get in touch on all the stories | :01:46. | :01:48. | |
we're talking about this morning - use the hashtag Victoria Live | :01:49. | :01:52. | |
and if you text, you will be charged Lower energy prices | :01:53. | :01:55. | |
could be on the way The gas and electricity regulator, | :01:56. | :01:59. | |
Ofgem, says it's going to introduce a cap on prices charged | :02:00. | :02:05. | |
by pre-payment meters, which are used by around | :02:06. | :02:07. | |
four million people. Ofgem says the cap will help | :02:08. | :02:12. | |
the most vulnerable and customers least likely | :02:13. | :02:15. | |
to switch suppliers. It's expected to save them around | :02:16. | :02:16. | |
?75 a year from next April. The announcement follows a report | :02:17. | :02:19. | |
published by the Competition and Markets Authority in June | :02:20. | :02:21. | |
which set out ways in Critics say it doesn't go far | :02:22. | :02:24. | |
enough but Dermot Nolan, the Chief Executive of Ofgem, | :02:25. | :02:31. | |
says people will get a better deal. I think it will be an improvement | :02:32. | :02:40. | |
for consumers and I think it will also deliver for them in a way that | :02:41. | :02:44. | |
it hasn't done before. I think there is a number of quite important | :02:45. | :02:49. | |
changes. One I would say is the recommendation that pre-payment | :02:50. | :02:51. | |
customers, about four million people in the UK are on pre-payment meters. | :02:52. | :02:54. | |
In the last few years they haven't been getting a great deal and we're | :02:55. | :02:58. | |
going to be introducing a clear protection for them which will save | :02:59. | :03:03. | |
them ?70 or ?80 a yearment that's important because electricity is an | :03:04. | :03:07. | |
essential service and the vulnerable really need to be protected so I | :03:08. | :03:10. | |
think it will be a better deal for them. I also think that by | :03:11. | :03:14. | |
encouraging people to be able to switch, by making switching easier, | :03:15. | :03:17. | |
by giving people far more information and empowering them, it | :03:18. | :03:21. | |
will over time make things better. It will drive down prices and you | :03:22. | :03:25. | |
will have a more empowered consumer making better choices and getting a | :03:26. | :03:26. | |
better deal. Our business correspondent | :03:27. | :03:29. | |
Theo Leggett is here. What are the most important | :03:30. | :03:37. | |
proposals and what's been left out? There has been criticism that things | :03:38. | :03:41. | |
have been missed? Well, the most change clearly is the move to | :03:42. | :03:46. | |
introduce a cap on the prices paid by people on pre-payment meters. | :03:47. | :03:50. | |
These are the poorest customers and the ones who find it harder to move | :03:51. | :03:54. | |
around. The cap will be introduced which should save them between ?70 | :03:55. | :04:02. | |
and ?80. That will stay in place until 2020 when smart meters will be | :04:03. | :04:06. | |
introduced. As far as things that have been left out are concerned, | :04:07. | :04:10. | |
well there is no move to cap standard variable tariffs, the ones | :04:11. | :04:15. | |
which you go on to in you don't bother shopping around and if your | :04:16. | :04:20. | |
discounted deal comes to an end. Some people wanted more action on | :04:21. | :04:23. | |
that and there is controversy around the way to the way price comparison | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
websites show deals, whether or not they are able to exclude deals, | :04:28. | :04:29. | |
where they are not paid commission for example. There is a lot of chat | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
about that at the moment and so far, all that Ofgem is doing is | :04:34. | :04:39. | |
consulting on it. Will much change for the average customer, the bulk | :04:40. | :04:43. | |
of customers who are with the big six on standard variable customers? | :04:44. | :04:50. | |
Not unless they decide to shop around for themselves. Ofgem, says | :04:51. | :04:56. | |
it will take more action to get disengaged customers to start | :04:57. | :05:01. | |
looking around for deals. If you are to take notice of the deal, you have | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
to be reading your bill in the first place, if you're not shopping | :05:06. | :05:08. | |
around, that suggests you are not paying as much acontinuation. | :05:09. | :05:11. | |
Two-thirds of customers don't shap around and they could be saving up | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
to ?300 a year according to Ofgem. OK, we will be talking more about | :05:16. | :05:18. | |
that later. Let us know your thoughts and | :05:19. | :05:22. | |
experiences on that. We will bring you thoughts into the conversation a | :05:23. | :05:23. | |
little later if we can. Julian is in the BBC | :05:24. | :05:26. | |
Newsroom with a summary Britain's border force has | :05:27. | :05:28. | |
a "worryingly low" number of boats MPs on the Commons Home Affairs | :05:29. | :05:43. | |
Committee say just three boats are available to patrol 7,000 | :05:44. | :05:46. | |
miles of shoreline. It's calling for the Royal Navy | :05:47. | :05:48. | |
to be brought in to support Our correspondent | :05:49. | :05:51. | |
Angus Crawford reports. Out of the dark, a lone boat, | :05:52. | :05:53. | |
adrift and in trouble. As rescuers close in, | :05:54. | :05:57. | |
it is clear the The group bypassed security | :05:58. | :05:59. | |
in France hoping to slip The Home Affairs Committee | :06:00. | :06:05. | |
warns more criminal gangs are doing the same, | :06:06. | :06:17. | |
exploiting inadequate policing at smaller ports | :06:18. | :06:19. | |
to smuggle people into the UK. It's the job of UK Border Force | :06:20. | :06:21. | |
vessels to stop them, but the report says only three | :06:22. | :06:24. | |
are available to patrol Britain's This one, Protector, | :06:25. | :06:27. | |
the biggest and most modern, is currently on duty | :06:28. | :06:30. | |
in the Mediterranean. I'm afraid, as an island nation, | :06:31. | :06:37. | |
there are weaknesses in our border security and we need | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
additional vessels used. There are Royal Naval vessels that | :06:41. | :06:42. | |
are not being used at the moment which should be deployed to deal | :06:43. | :06:45. | |
with people traffickers. The Home Office says it already | :06:46. | :06:52. | |
works with the Royal Navy, uses radar and aerial surveillance | :06:53. | :06:56. | |
and has ordered eight new vessels. All part of a constant struggle | :06:57. | :06:59. | |
to stop smuggling and save lives. A report by MPs into | :07:00. | :07:17. | |
the resettlement of Syrian refugees in the UK says not enough | :07:18. | :07:19. | |
is being done by local authorities to reach the goal of resettling | :07:20. | :07:22. | |
20,000 Syrians by 2020. It said the UK Vulnerable Persons | :07:23. | :07:27. | |
Resettlement Scheme started well with co-operation between local | :07:28. | :07:34. | |
authorities, the government and the agencies involved but that | :07:35. | :07:38. | |
a two-tier system was emerging with some providing | :07:39. | :07:40. | |
support to Syrian refugees A police officer in Pakistan | :07:41. | :07:42. | |
in charge of an investigation the death of a woman from Bradford | :07:43. | :07:48. | |
has confirmed she was strangled. Samia Shahid, who was 28, | :07:49. | :07:51. | |
died last month while visiting Her husband says she was the victim | :07:52. | :07:54. | |
of a so-called honour killing, an allegation denied | :07:55. | :08:04. | |
by her relatives in Pakistan. Profits at Britain's biggest bank, | :08:05. | :08:11. | |
HSBC, have fallen sharply. In the first six months of this year | :08:12. | :08:13. | |
they were down by 29% compared to the same period last year - at | :08:14. | :08:25. | |
?7.2 billion. The bank said there had been | :08:26. | :08:27. | |
"exceptional volatility" because of concern about China's | :08:28. | :08:29. | |
economy and Britain's There will be more armed police | :08:30. | :08:31. | |
officers patrolling the streets of London from today, | :08:32. | :08:35. | |
in response to recent attacks The move has been announced | :08:36. | :08:37. | |
by the Commissioner of the Metropolitan police, | :08:38. | :08:40. | |
Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, They say the aim is to reassure | :08:41. | :08:41. | |
the public and deter attackers. We already know that the threat | :08:42. | :08:46. | |
level is severe so we know that We have no intelligence | :08:47. | :08:49. | |
there will be an attack shortly, but what we do know is what we have | :08:50. | :08:54. | |
seen attacks in Germany and we have seen attacks in France and Belgium | :08:55. | :08:57. | |
and I think we would be foolish to ignore that | :08:58. | :09:00. | |
so it is important we get officers out there with firearms | :09:01. | :09:03. | |
to respond where necessary. A British man has been killed | :09:04. | :09:10. | |
while fighting with Kurdish forces against so-called Islamic State | :09:11. | :09:13. | |
militants in Syria. Kurdish reports say 22-year-old Dean | :09:14. | :09:15. | |
Carl Evans died last month. His father, John, has | :09:16. | :09:17. | |
confirmed the death. He is the second British man to die | :09:18. | :09:23. | |
while fighting as a volunteer A tribute to Dean Evans was posted | :09:24. | :09:26. | |
to one of the websites It also showed some | :09:27. | :09:33. | |
recent video of him. According to friends, | :09:34. | :09:37. | |
he was on the frontline behind a wall when he was | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
hit by an IS bullet. A female Kurdish fighter who tried | :09:42. | :09:43. | |
to save him was also killed when a rocket-propelled grenade | :09:44. | :09:46. | |
hit them both. On Facebook, John Evans | :09:47. | :09:51. | |
confirmed his son's death. He posted a photo of him | :09:52. | :09:53. | |
when he was a teenager and said he would be loved and missed | :09:54. | :09:57. | |
by all his family and friends. Dean Evans was killed in fierce | :09:58. | :10:03. | |
fighting around the town of Manbij. It's said to be a key staging post | :10:04. | :10:06. | |
on the road to Raqqa, The Foreign Office wasn't able | :10:07. | :10:09. | |
to confirm his death and advises against all travel to Syria | :10:10. | :10:15. | |
for whatever reason. Last year, another | :10:16. | :10:19. | |
Briton, Erik Scurfield, The former Royal Marine | :10:20. | :10:22. | |
from Barnsley was given full military honours when the Kurdish | :10:23. | :10:27. | |
forces handed over his Dean Evans is said to have left | :10:28. | :10:29. | |
a will saying he wanted to be buried in the Kurdish part of Syria, | :10:30. | :10:35. | |
next to the people he called his A legal ruling is expected later | :10:36. | :10:39. | |
today in the case of a British woman who claims she is being held | :10:40. | :10:54. | |
against her will in Saudi Arabia. 21-year-old Amina Al-Jeffery has | :10:55. | :10:58. | |
dual British and Saudi citizenship, She says her father has imprisoned | :10:59. | :11:02. | |
her at his home in Jeddah. A British High Court judge has been | :11:03. | :11:12. | |
considering whether he can call for her return, | :11:13. | :11:14. | |
but any ruling is likely to have limited power outside of the UK, | :11:15. | :11:17. | |
with the Saudi government Two leopards have been born at twi | :11:18. | :11:36. | |
cross Zoo. These CCTV pictures are the first glimpse of the cubs. They | :11:37. | :11:42. | |
are the second pair born to mum and dad. The zoo says the new arrivals | :11:43. | :11:48. | |
will help ensure the long-term survival of the species. | :11:49. | :11:52. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News. | :11:53. | :11:53. | |
They were scrummy, weren't they? We will look at how you can save | :11:54. | :12:07. | |
money on your energy bills as the body in charge of the big suppliers | :12:08. | :12:11. | |
says more will be done to help people switch easily and pre-payment | :12:12. | :12:14. | |
meters will have a limit set on them. Get in touch on your | :12:15. | :12:19. | |
experience about trying to find the best deals. We will hear from a | :12:20. | :12:28. | |
trans woman living in Belfast. She will tell us how the community | :12:29. | :12:31. | |
reacted to her sexuality. Do get in touch with us | :12:32. | :12:33. | |
throughout the morning - use the hashtag Victoria LIVE | :12:34. | :12:35. | |
and If you text, you will be charged With three days to go | :12:36. | :12:38. | |
until the start of the Olympics in Rio, today we will discover | :12:39. | :12:49. | |
the sports that will be added to the program | :12:50. | :12:51. | |
in Tokyo in four years time. With golf and Rugby Union added to | :12:52. | :12:54. | |
the schedule this year. Today the International | :12:55. | :12:59. | |
Olympic Committee is expected to announce that | :13:00. | :13:00. | |
Sports Climbing will be an event Which means we can expect to see | :13:01. | :13:03. | |
Shauna Coxsey compete. She is with me now. Thank you very | :13:04. | :13:12. | |
much for joining us. This would be pretty cool, wouldn't it, if you got | :13:13. | :13:16. | |
to compete at the Olympics? Yeah, it is something I never expected to see | :13:17. | :13:19. | |
in my professional career as a climber. Yeah, it is a bit | :13:20. | :13:25. | |
overwhelming considering climbing being in the Olympics, but it is an | :13:26. | :13:29. | |
exciting and historical day. Your specialism is bowledering? That's | :13:30. | :13:34. | |
correct. That's one of three events that you would have to take part in? | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
I specialise in bouldering and it is three events that have been selected | :13:40. | :13:43. | |
and it is one medal for the overall. Yeah, it is a little bit like asking | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
Usain Bolt to do his 100 meter race and run the 800 meters and a | :13:49. | :13:52. | |
marathon on top of that. It is complicated. One of the events is | :13:53. | :13:56. | |
speed climbing? It is speed climbing, yes. It is very different | :13:57. | :14:00. | |
to bowlering. Tell us about bouldering? It is a discipline of | :14:01. | :14:05. | |
climbing and you go not too high above the ground, above mats with no | :14:06. | :14:11. | |
ropes. It is a free sport. Speed climbing is as fast as k get up a | :14:12. | :14:15. | |
wall and there is league climbing you clip your rope in as you climb | :14:16. | :14:19. | |
up and it is a much more endurance based sport. You won a World Cup | :14:20. | :14:24. | |
event this year which means you're world number one in your sport, | :14:25. | :14:28. | |
aren't you? Yes, I'm world number. I won that title which is really | :14:29. | :14:32. | |
exciting and I have been competing for a while and you can see the | :14:33. | :14:36. | |
footage from one of the World Cups which was in Austria. On top of | :14:37. | :14:41. | |
that, it would be a few, speed climbing and league climbing as | :14:42. | :14:44. | |
well. Speed climbing looks great to watch, having seen the pictures this | :14:45. | :14:49. | |
morning, it looks exciting. It would make for a great sport and spectacle | :14:50. | :14:54. | |
at the Olympics, but how difficult is that to turny answerings and em-- | :14:55. | :15:03. | |
ayour attention and improve? It is up to my coach to work out! That's | :15:04. | :15:11. | |
his job. I'll do what I'm told. Have you been practising in anticipation | :15:12. | :15:14. | |
of the sport being included in the Olympics? Not currently. I was a | :15:15. | :15:19. | |
lead climber previously, transferring back to that discipline | :15:20. | :15:22. | |
wouldn't be too difficult and I'm excited about that, but the speed | :15:23. | :15:25. | |
climbing is alien to me, so it will be a challenge. I'm excited about | :15:26. | :15:30. | |
the challenge and I think with the announcement coming later today, I | :15:31. | :15:33. | |
think it will change the way our sport works right now and it is | :15:34. | :15:36. | |
really exciting and yeah, we don't know how it will work, but it is a | :15:37. | :15:38. | |
big step for our sport. Why is it set to be included, when | :15:39. | :15:48. | |
the announcement comes, we know that rock climbing is certainly one of | :15:49. | :15:53. | |
the UK's fastest-growing sports. Correct, it is a wheelie accessible | :15:54. | :15:56. | |
sport and a natural sport to do, as kids we want to climb trees and jump | :15:57. | :16:02. | |
around a climbing frame. It is something that feels natural to do | :16:03. | :16:05. | |
and it is so much fun, as an adult going back to it, you see people | :16:06. | :16:10. | |
doing it, it is as though you get to climb on things again, nobody will | :16:11. | :16:15. | |
tell you. Was it a love of climbing, when we were growing up. I began | :16:16. | :16:19. | |
climbing when I was four years old, nearly 20 years ago, it was | :16:20. | :16:24. | |
something that was so natural to me, I fell in love with it immediately, | :16:25. | :16:27. | |
I was really fortunate to have a supportive father who was keen to | :16:28. | :16:31. | |
take me climbing, it is something that was really natural to me and | :16:32. | :16:33. | |
something I fell in love with immediately. You could be competing | :16:34. | :16:42. | |
in the Olympics in four years' time. Crazy to think about, excellent. | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
Thank you very much for joining us. We await the announcement later on | :16:48. | :16:53. | |
the inclusion of rock climbing in the Olympics in Tokyo in for you is | :16:54. | :16:56. | |
time, we will be keeping an eye on that today, and, as we know, not | :16:57. | :17:02. | |
long until the start of the Olympic Games in Rio de Janeiro, just three | :17:03. | :17:05. | |
days away, that's the moment is all of the sport and we will have more | :17:06. | :17:10. | |
in 15 time. Ain't very much see you then. | :17:11. | :17:14. | |
Are the UK's borders up to the job of fighting the huge and growing | :17:15. | :17:17. | |
A group of MPs this morning says they're NOT. | :17:18. | :17:20. | |
The Home Affairs committee says smaller ports are being | :17:21. | :17:23. | |
exploited by criminal gangs, and the Border Force simply doesn't | :17:24. | :17:25. | |
The number of vessels patrolling the seas around Britain is, | :17:26. | :17:29. | |
We have three border boats, for seven and a half thousand miles | :17:30. | :17:33. | |
compared to Italy's 600 vessels, for 4,5000 miles. | :17:34. | :17:42. | |
a former Director General of the UK Border Force. | :17:43. | :17:50. | |
Comparing statistics, it seems woeful, why does Britain have so few | :17:51. | :17:56. | |
patrol boat? You need to understand the nature of the threat, places | :17:57. | :18:00. | |
like Italy face huge volumes of irregular migrants coming across the | :18:01. | :18:04. | |
Mediterranean Sea, that is not something we have seen in the UK | :18:05. | :18:07. | |
until recently, it is a fairly recent change. What we have had to | :18:08. | :18:12. | |
do is change the response mechanism, we actually have five cutters, we | :18:13. | :18:16. | |
have one aerial reconnaissance aircraft. When I was there. One is | :18:17. | :18:20. | |
in doc, one in the Mediterranean, so only three left. New threat of the | :18:21. | :18:26. | |
smugglers trying new routes, usually illegal migrants come through Dover, | :18:27. | :18:30. | |
in the backs of lorries, there has been a huge investment in Calais, it | :18:31. | :18:34. | |
is made it harder for them to do that, they are trying new methods. | :18:35. | :18:39. | |
We need new border surveillance to deal with the new threat. There are | :18:40. | :18:43. | |
boats coming, but there will not come through until the end of next | :18:44. | :18:46. | |
year, it will only be another eight, does the Royal Navy need to step in | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
in the meantime? It is important that it is not just about the net | :18:52. | :18:56. | |
red number of votes, it is a complicated structure, 16 different | :18:57. | :18:58. | |
agencies involved in border protection, not just the border | :18:59. | :19:03. | |
force. -- not just about the number of votes. -- boats. You have the | :19:04. | :19:13. | |
National Crime Agency, various agencies, the Navy as well, we need | :19:14. | :19:16. | |
to make sure they all work together under them for space of the national | :19:17. | :19:21. | |
maritime intelligence centre, there is no good having an armada of votes | :19:22. | :19:25. | |
out there if they do not known where to go or how to intercept. -- armada | :19:26. | :19:33. | |
of boats. Is it clear what is the picture, family migrants are trying | :19:34. | :19:39. | |
to come to this country on boats. How many are coming through? -- how | :19:40. | :19:45. | |
many migrant. How do we know if someone comes in a legally, unless | :19:46. | :19:49. | |
they come to our attention, the best answer is probably a silent intake, | :19:50. | :19:53. | |
most asylum seekers come in a legally, that has crept up by 12% in | :19:54. | :19:58. | |
the last year, there is evidence that there is more penetration | :19:59. | :20:01. | |
through the border. You do not know if that is by sea or any other | :20:02. | :20:05. | |
means. We only know how many we stopped at Calais, we know there has | :20:06. | :20:09. | |
been significant investment in Calais, ?25 million, with the French | :20:10. | :20:15. | |
fences, CCTV, makes it much harder for the smugglers to operate in what | :20:16. | :20:18. | |
has always been the traditional route into the UK. They are trying | :20:19. | :20:23. | |
other things, what we need to do is to adapt, so that we can tackle the | :20:24. | :20:28. | |
changing threat. The MPs are warning that small ports are particularly | :20:29. | :20:31. | |
vulnerable to people traffickers, and when you realise that smugglers | :20:32. | :20:36. | |
can make ?100,000 per journey, for each boat, you can see that there is | :20:37. | :20:41. | |
a huge incentive to find loopholes, and find those small ports, what is | :20:42. | :20:45. | |
the best way to protect individual ports, I know what you are saying | :20:46. | :20:49. | |
about a joined up approach to security, does it need to be the | :20:50. | :20:52. | |
case that there is something of these there are, in terms of boats, | :20:53. | :20:57. | |
or whatever it is that this sending out a signal in the way that Italy | :20:58. | :21:02. | |
has done with a lot about. General maritime has always been a threat, | :21:03. | :21:06. | |
small ports and coastal coverage, we do not have a border patrol in this | :21:07. | :21:10. | |
country, responsible for trolling between the ports of entry, it is | :21:11. | :21:14. | |
the same organisation that manages the ports as does the areas in | :21:15. | :21:19. | |
between, it is like community releasing, we have had coast watch | :21:20. | :21:25. | |
and we have had Project Kraken. Will rely upon Harbour Masters and the | :21:26. | :21:31. | |
Coast Guard to rely upon -- notice things. When we begin to identify | :21:32. | :21:37. | |
trends, then we can take a criminal gangs. How many boats are being | :21:38. | :21:42. | |
intercepted? The actual numbers of interceptions is not recorded, | :21:43. | :21:47. | |
because... Because there are different types of threat coming | :21:48. | :21:52. | |
into the UK, the border Force cutters do not just deal with | :21:53. | :21:54. | |
smuggling, they deal with environmental threats, things like | :21:55. | :22:00. | |
fishing and environmental issues and so on, the cutters are being | :22:01. | :22:05. | |
deployed on an intelligence led basis, to different operations, some | :22:06. | :22:08. | |
of the operations are covert, that will be organised by the national | :22:09. | :22:16. | |
crime agency, made be deployed by a larger organisation. Spread more | :22:17. | :22:21. | |
thinly than just being about border patrols and people smuggling, does | :22:22. | :22:23. | |
that send out a message that written is a soft touch, if you want to try | :22:24. | :22:28. | |
to get a boat load of people in? Britain is not a soft touch, when I | :22:29. | :22:34. | |
was head of border force, what a lot of people visited to see how we did | :22:35. | :22:38. | |
things, of course we still have a border with Europe, most of Europe | :22:39. | :22:41. | |
does not have won because of Shannon, and the external frontier | :22:42. | :22:46. | |
is broken, with huge numbers coming across the Mediterranean, we have a | :22:47. | :22:49. | |
change in threat but we should not put this out of perspective. -- | :22:50. | :22:53. | |
Schengen. It is a change and we are adapting to it, we just need to keep | :22:54. | :22:54. | |
ahead of the smugglers. Did not long strongly critical of local | :22:55. | :23:34. | |
authorities for not acting quickly enough in their resettlement plans | :23:35. | :23:37. | |
for new arrivals. It is reported that many councils are refusing to | :23:38. | :23:42. | |
house refugees because of high costs. Well it's not long since the | :23:43. | :23:55. | |
British government was lambasted for reportedly taking in only 216 | :23:56. | :23:58. | |
refugees from Syria. Those numbers were well up by the beginning of | :23:59. | :24:01. | |
July - as you'd expect - and we've now received eight thousand | :24:02. | :24:03. | |
refugees. But MPs still say there's little sign that the UK will meet | :24:04. | :24:05. | |
its goal of resettling 20-thousand Syrians by 2020. The same report | :24:06. | :24:07. | |
we've just heard about, which is warning about border force problems, | :24:08. | :24:10. | |
is also strongly critical of local authorities for not acting quickly | :24:11. | :24:12. | |
enough in their resettlement plans for new arrivals. It's reported that | :24:13. | :24:14. | |
many councils are refusing to house refugees due to high accommodation | :24:15. | :24:16. | |
costs. I spoke to Councillor David Simmons, who heads up an asylum, | :24:17. | :24:19. | |
migration and refugee task force for the Local Government Association. | :24:20. | :24:19. | |
The figures used are out of date, after the official arrival of | :24:20. | :24:23. | |
refugees, there would be a pause while they learn what could be done | :24:24. | :24:25. | |
to improve logistics. During that period the local government | :24:26. | :24:27. | |
Association and local councils have been coming forward with offers of | :24:28. | :24:29. | |
accommodation as part of the programme for resettling 20,000 | :24:30. | :24:32. | |
Syrians and I am confident they are talking to councils around the | :24:33. | :24:34. | |
country that those 20,000 targets will be met. -- that 20,000 target | :24:35. | :24:37. | |
will be met. A survey has found that one in three councils have been | :24:38. | :24:39. | |
fusing to take in refugees, is that still the picture? All councils are | :24:40. | :24:42. | |
playing a part in bringing refugees to the UK, it depends upon | :24:43. | :24:44. | |
whereabouts in the country, how many offers of houses they are able to | :24:45. | :24:47. | |
make, and it also depends upon what other refugees they may already be | :24:48. | :24:49. | |
looking after. The Syrian scheme is one small part of the picture, we | :24:50. | :24:52. | |
also have a number of other government schemes for resettling | :24:53. | :24:54. | |
destitute refugees and a 100 cent increase in the number of | :24:55. | :24:55. | |
unaccompanied refugee children being looked after by councils across the | :24:56. | :24:58. | |
UK. This survey which is being done and the Home Office side committee | :24:59. | :25:01. | |
report is a small part of that picture. We need to be aware of | :25:02. | :25:08. | |
wider context. Are some local authorities point blank refusing to | :25:09. | :25:12. | |
take in refugees, in London, only 11 of 32 London boroughs had agreed to | :25:13. | :25:18. | |
take 521 refugees. Across the total number of borrowers there. Other | :25:19. | :25:25. | |
local authorities are also not and have not been taking... Is it right | :25:26. | :25:29. | |
that any local authority should not take a single refugee under this new | :25:30. | :25:34. | |
proposal? Local authorities, most local authorities will have some | :25:35. | :25:37. | |
refugees and some will have large numbers which will not appear in the | :25:38. | :25:40. | |
total because they have not been brought to the UK as part of this | :25:41. | :25:44. | |
specific scheme which the survey on the report we are looking at, my own | :25:45. | :25:49. | |
authority, Hillingdon, has more than 100 unaccompanied refugee children, | :25:50. | :25:52. | |
because there is a very severe shortage of accommodation, its entry | :25:53. | :25:55. | |
cannot be found within the funding that is being offered by the Home | :25:56. | :25:59. | |
Office, we will not be taking significant numbers of adults and | :26:00. | :26:03. | |
families but elsewhere in the country, different picture, there | :26:04. | :26:06. | |
are parts that have few if any refugee children because they do not | :26:07. | :26:10. | |
have the expertise in looking after them perhaps, but where | :26:11. | :26:13. | |
accommodation can be more readily found, taking very significant | :26:14. | :26:16. | |
numbers, that is why we will see a patchwork of offers based upon what | :26:17. | :26:22. | |
local communities have the capacity to provide. What about it being the | :26:23. | :26:26. | |
right thing to do, the deputy leader of Coventry City Council, which has | :26:27. | :26:30. | |
been one of the most welcoming councils has said, " we have | :26:31. | :26:36. | |
accepted refugees because it is the right thing to do, they say that is | :26:37. | :26:43. | |
why they want to do it. There is a combination of factors which is | :26:44. | :26:48. | |
always at work. Clearly no council wants to have to face is local | :26:49. | :26:52. | |
community later on and say that the may have to close libraries and may | :26:53. | :26:54. | |
be struggling for school places because this finance simply is not | :26:55. | :27:02. | |
there. We need to balance local communities and we need to look at | :27:03. | :27:05. | |
what we have the capacity to provide, parts of the country will | :27:06. | :27:08. | |
be spending a good deal of money and providing a good deal of support to | :27:09. | :27:11. | |
refugee children who may not be taking in families, they may be | :27:12. | :27:15. | |
areas of the country which offer specific support to adults with | :27:16. | :27:19. | |
disabilities or injuries as a result of what has happened with has led to | :27:20. | :27:22. | |
them being refugees but may not be able to take young children, that is | :27:23. | :27:26. | |
why it is so important in this game and that is why it is a cause for | :27:27. | :27:30. | |
celebration that we have reached the target of 7000, although we could be | :27:31. | :27:36. | |
significantly more if called upon to do so. It is inevitable that any | :27:37. | :27:40. | |
council taking in refugees will cut costs on something else that they | :27:41. | :27:44. | |
are spending money on as a result, when you look at the figures, the | :27:45. | :27:49. | |
way that they break down, councils get ?8,500 for every refugee in the | :27:50. | :27:52. | |
first year, ?1000 in the fifth year, councils say that covers only 80% of | :27:53. | :27:58. | |
their costs, that is at the same time as local authority funding has | :27:59. | :28:02. | |
been cut by one third. The pressures on council funding have been | :28:03. | :28:06. | |
well-publicised, we know that all of the councils coming forward with | :28:07. | :28:09. | |
offers of accommodation for refugees will need to make difficult | :28:10. | :28:12. | |
decisions in order to make that happen but we also need to recognise | :28:13. | :28:16. | |
that the circumstances of refugees vary a lot, in London, for example, | :28:17. | :28:21. | |
large numbers of refugees who are either from their own resources | :28:22. | :28:24. | |
paying for the accommodation or who are coming to the UK to stay with | :28:25. | :28:28. | |
extended family members, at members of the community from which they | :28:29. | :28:32. | |
come in the country that they fled. Not all refugees will be dependent | :28:33. | :28:36. | |
upon the taxpayer, that is why it is very much a mixed picture around the | :28:37. | :28:40. | |
country. How much scrutiny is there of a council when it says, we are | :28:41. | :28:44. | |
not going to take in any refugees, this is voluntary and we do not have | :28:45. | :28:48. | |
too. Enormous scrutiny but we need to make sure that is well-informed, | :28:49. | :28:52. | |
it is no good simply looking at how money refugees a council may take | :28:53. | :28:55. | |
the Syrian scheme, we need to look at whether the council is in a | :28:56. | :29:00. | |
dispersal area, one of the Home Office's six compass contract, | :29:01. | :29:04. | |
whether they have significant numbers of unaccompanied refugee | :29:05. | :29:07. | |
children, we also need to consider how money people they may already be | :29:08. | :29:12. | |
looking for housing for the Council in that local area, that is why it | :29:13. | :29:16. | |
is best that it is done at a local level, because the council is in a | :29:17. | :29:19. | |
position to know what is going on in the local community and look at what | :29:20. | :29:22. | |
it has the capacity to provide without putting unfair pressure on | :29:23. | :29:24. | |
other people who may also need help. We can speak with a Syrian refugee | :29:25. | :29:34. | |
living in south London tried to get on his feet after a long and | :29:35. | :29:38. | |
dangerous journey to the UK, in Coventry, I'm joined by Sabir Zazai, | :29:39. | :29:44. | |
who is the Director of the Refugee and Migrant Centre there. He arrived | :29:45. | :29:47. | |
in Britain from Afghanistan 17 years ago. And in Birmingham we have | :29:48. | :29:57. | |
Louise Calvey. She travels the country as Head of Resettlement at | :29:58. | :29:59. | |
charity Refugee Action helping Local Authorities support refugees. Thank | :30:00. | :30:10. | |
you for joining us. Sabir, you are in Coventry and it has been | :30:11. | :30:13. | |
described as the gold standard, where is the balance made between | :30:14. | :30:16. | |
the needs of the local community against the needs of refugees? I | :30:17. | :30:20. | |
think the most important thing that we have in Coventry is a strong | :30:21. | :30:24. | |
goodwill within the public, mainly across the communities and the | :30:25. | :30:32. | |
support of the Bishop of Coventry and faith organisations. But on top | :30:33. | :30:36. | |
of that, Coventry has also got the resources and the infrastructure. | :30:37. | :30:47. | |
Dispersed to this city and also in addition to this Coventry has a | :30:48. | :30:58. | |
worldwide reputation as a city of peace and reconciliation and we were | :30:59. | :31:01. | |
one of the first cities of sanctuary. So I think within the | :31:02. | :31:07. | |
city, the leadership of the city takes those legacies of the city | :31:08. | :31:10. | |
seriously and I think for that reason we have been able to work | :31:11. | :31:16. | |
with local communities to galvanise and get their support behind us and | :31:17. | :31:23. | |
Coventry has extended to Syrian refugees, but it has extended to | :31:24. | :31:27. | |
people over many years fleeing conflicts across the world. What | :31:28. | :31:34. | |
about balancing the pressures on local resources for the local | :31:35. | :31:38. | |
community? We were hearing from the Local Government Association talking | :31:39. | :31:40. | |
about the difficulties fore a council if it has to justify closing | :31:41. | :31:46. | |
facilities like libraries or pressure on other budgets when | :31:47. | :31:53. | |
refugees have been taken in? I wouldn't blame all of that | :31:54. | :31:58. | |
pressure on refugees. We are resettling Syrian refugees at an | :31:59. | :32:01. | |
economically difficult time. It was straight after the recession. The | :32:02. | :32:05. | |
plans for closing libraries, the plans for closing children's | :32:06. | :32:11. | |
centres, were there in place because of the austerity plans, but what we | :32:12. | :32:18. | |
have is that we know that the Syrian programme comes with funding, but at | :32:19. | :32:22. | |
the same time, we focus more on the issue of integrating and allowing | :32:23. | :32:27. | |
these people to set up their lives and rebuild their lives in safety | :32:28. | :32:33. | |
and dignity. Instead of focussing on those blame issues that we blame it | :32:34. | :32:37. | |
on refugees, we support these refugees so that they can find jobs | :32:38. | :32:41. | |
and they can be active members of our society and our city. At the end | :32:42. | :32:46. | |
of the day everyone wants to rebuild their lives, everyone wants to have | :32:47. | :32:51. | |
a job and a dignified income and our focus, the focus of our charity at | :32:52. | :32:57. | |
Coventry and Migrant Centre and the migrants is we help these people | :32:58. | :33:01. | |
earlier on so they have got jobs to help and support themselves and also | :33:02. | :33:04. | |
make a contribution to the local economy. | :33:05. | :33:09. | |
Louise, the local authorities have now offered up the 20,000 places in | :33:10. | :33:14. | |
total. MPs were concerned that they weren't coming forward and there may | :33:15. | :33:18. | |
not be enough places. Are you happy that the Local Government | :33:19. | :33:20. | |
Association says that the places are on offer? Absolutely. That can only | :33:21. | :33:26. | |
be good news. Particularly in the context of the 200 figure we were | :33:27. | :33:29. | |
looking at in the summer of last year. In refugee Action's experience | :33:30. | :33:35. | |
we are seeing local authorities and the Home Office working very much | :33:36. | :33:38. | |
with communities, local communities to create a position of welcome for | :33:39. | :33:42. | |
some of the most vulnerable people in society. That's a brilliant | :33:43. | :33:48. | |
thing. That work has to continue. Refugee Action believes that 20,000 | :33:49. | :33:52. | |
is an achievable number in the UK. We need to be doing more. We need to | :33:53. | :33:56. | |
find more routes to safety. We need to be bringing more vulnerable | :33:57. | :34:00. | |
people into the UK so that they can form members of our society to | :34:01. | :34:05. | |
contribute in the way that we know that they want to. Are you happy | :34:06. | :34:08. | |
that all local authorities are pulling their weight? Because some | :34:09. | :34:13. | |
are taking in higher numbers than others. But the Local Government | :34:14. | :34:18. | |
Association says you need to look at the picture that isn't always clear | :34:19. | :34:21. | |
when you look at the headline figures because obviously different | :34:22. | :34:25. | |
pressures will be put in different areas depending on what has gone | :34:26. | :34:29. | |
before, whether it is child refugees there or any other refugees? Yeah, I | :34:30. | :34:34. | |
think there can be no doubt that pressures on Local Government at the | :34:35. | :34:37. | |
moment are very high. There are a lot of vulnerable members of our | :34:38. | :34:42. | |
communities and many of those are very keen to welcome refugees as | :34:43. | :34:46. | |
well. In our experience, local authorities are working hard to find | :34:47. | :34:50. | |
solutions to some of those problems. And working hard with the | :34:51. | :34:57. | |
communities around them. One of the overwhelming positively things | :34:58. | :34:59. | |
that's happened over the last few months is that position of welcome | :35:00. | :35:02. | |
from local communities, from all different types of communities | :35:03. | :35:06. | |
whether it be, you know, rural chocolate-box Middle England all the | :35:07. | :35:11. | |
way through to urban areas, communities wanting to come together | :35:12. | :35:14. | |
to welcome Syrians and vulnerable members of our society and local | :35:15. | :35:17. | |
authorities have really been alive to that in our experience have been | :35:18. | :35:23. | |
trying to find solutions to come to a position of welcome. Kamal you | :35:24. | :35:35. | |
came as a refugee from Syria. Have you felt welcomed here? Yeah, I | :35:36. | :35:41. | |
think, most people they welcomed me. Most people I met, they welcomed me. | :35:42. | :35:47. | |
Have you had any issues? Some issues about the accommodation, about when | :35:48. | :35:51. | |
I moved from Stockton-on-Tees to London, I found it difficult to find | :35:52. | :36:01. | |
a job and found accommodation and to rent a house, but we welcomed me | :36:02. | :36:06. | |
when I found Homeless For Syria, it is a website. They helped me to get | :36:07. | :36:15. | |
accommodation and now I live with an English family and I am part of this | :36:16. | :36:21. | |
family. I'm happy to be there. They helped me to find work and to update | :36:22. | :36:29. | |
my CV, to do a lot of things, to contact other people. Are they a | :36:30. | :36:34. | |
family that offered themselves in a charitable gesture and you don't pay | :36:35. | :36:43. | |
rent? Because when I moved from Stockton-on-Tees to London, I live | :36:44. | :36:49. | |
in the room with people I don't know. They used drugs. They drank | :36:50. | :36:55. | |
alcohol all the time. I can't stay with them. One day we make some high | :36:56. | :37:03. | |
sounds and shouting and they kicked me out. So I went to the coffee shop | :37:04. | :37:18. | |
and I tried find somebody to particular me in, I tried to search | :37:19. | :37:24. | |
on the web to find a new solution for me. So I wpt on the internet and | :37:25. | :37:33. | |
I found Homeless For Syria and I e-mailed them and they helped me to | :37:34. | :37:39. | |
find a family to guest me. Thank you for coming in and talking | :37:40. | :37:44. | |
to us. A couple of e-mails from you. Sydney e-mailed, "I am ashamed at | :37:45. | :37:48. | |
the lack of help we are giving to refugees. We demeanour respect and | :37:49. | :37:54. | |
ourselves with our callous attitude." Malcolm e-mailed, "It is | :37:55. | :37:59. | |
all very well having boats intercepting people smuggling small | :38:00. | :38:01. | |
boats in the channel, but what happens? These people are brought to | :38:02. | :38:05. | |
this country, so these poor migrants have succeeded anyway." The Home | :38:06. | :38:11. | |
Office have issued a statement saying, "Our priority to offer | :38:12. | :38:15. | |
humanitarian support to those most in need while maintaining the | :38:16. | :38:18. | |
security of our borders. Refuge has been provided for more than 1800 | :38:19. | :38:23. | |
Syrians under the scheme while the Government is on track to deliver | :38:24. | :38:26. | |
its pledge to resettle 20,000 by the end of the Parliament. We have made | :38:27. | :38:30. | |
clear our commitment to bringing very vulnerable children from | :38:31. | :38:31. | |
Europe. Still to come, we'll be hearing | :38:32. | :38:40. | |
from a transgender woman in Belfast about her life in a community | :38:41. | :38:42. | |
where sexual identity, And as events are cancelled | :38:43. | :38:44. | |
across France this summer because of the security threat, | :38:45. | :38:48. | |
we look at what you need to know if you're heading | :38:49. | :38:50. | |
to Europe on holiday. Here's Julian in the BBC Newsroom | :38:51. | :38:59. | |
with a summary of today's news. The gas and electricity regulator, | :39:00. | :39:04. | |
Ofgem, has endorsed a series of proposals designed to cut | :39:05. | :39:09. | |
customers' energy bills in England, Wales and Scotland, | :39:10. | :39:12. | |
calling them a "watershed The proposals including a price cap | :39:13. | :39:14. | |
for prepayment meters were put forward in June by another | :39:15. | :39:18. | |
regulator, the Competition A number of quite important changes. | :39:19. | :39:34. | |
One I would say is the recommendation of pre-payment | :39:35. | :39:36. | |
customers. About four million people in the UK are on pre-payment meters. | :39:37. | :39:40. | |
In the last few years they haven't been getting a great deal and we | :39:41. | :39:44. | |
will be introducing a very clear protection for them which will save | :39:45. | :39:51. | |
them ?70, ?80 a year. Electricity is an essential service and the | :39:52. | :39:54. | |
vulnerable really need to be protected. | :39:55. | :40:00. | |
A police officer in Pakistan in charge of an investigation | :40:01. | :40:01. | |
into the death of a woman from Bradford has confirmed | :40:02. | :40:04. | |
Samia Shahid, who was 28, died last month while visiting | :40:05. | :40:07. | |
Her husband says she was the victim of a so-called honour killing, | :40:08. | :40:11. | |
an allegation denied by her relatives in Pakistan. | :40:12. | :40:15. | |
Profits at HSBC have fallen sharply. In the first six months of this | :40:16. | :40:21. | |
year, they were down by 29%, compared to the same period last | :40:22. | :40:26. | |
year. That's at ?7.2 billion. The bank said there had been exceptional | :40:27. | :40:31. | |
volatility because of concern about China's economy and Britain's | :40:32. | :40:32. | |
decision to leave the EU. There will be more armed police | :40:33. | :40:35. | |
officers patrolling the streets of London from today, | :40:36. | :40:37. | |
in response to recent attacks The move has been announced | :40:38. | :40:39. | |
by the commissioner of the Metropolitan police, | :40:40. | :40:43. | |
Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, They say the aim is to reassure | :40:44. | :40:44. | |
the public and deter attackers. Two Amur leopards - | :40:45. | :40:53. | |
believed to be the world's rarest big cat have been born | :40:54. | :40:56. | |
at Twycross Zoo in Leicestershire. There are only about 70 | :40:57. | :40:58. | |
of the leopards left in the wild. Theses CCTV pictures are the first | :40:59. | :41:03. | |
glimpse of the cubs. They're the second pair born to mum | :41:04. | :41:10. | |
Kristen and dad Davidoff. That's a summary of | :41:11. | :41:16. | |
the latest BBC News. Here's the latest | :41:17. | :41:18. | |
sport now with John. After missing three drugs tests | :41:19. | :41:29. | |
which could have forced Cyclist Lizzie Armitstead to be | :41:30. | :41:32. | |
banned from the Rio Olympics, the silver medallist | :41:33. | :41:34. | |
from London 2012 has admitted she that she was naive in not | :41:35. | :41:36. | |
challenging the first of those until her Olympic place was | :41:37. | :41:40. | |
in jeapordy. It was only | :41:41. | :41:42. | |
after missing a third test and facing a possible two year | :41:43. | :41:44. | |
suspension, she took her case to the court of arbitration | :41:45. | :41:46. | |
for sport and her first failure UK Anti-Doping, while happy | :41:47. | :41:49. | |
with the process, feels there needs to be more explanation | :41:50. | :41:53. | |
as to why it was not upheld. Cyclist Sir Bradley Wiggins has said | :41:54. | :41:57. | |
the honour of being flag bearer at the opening ceremony | :41:58. | :42:00. | |
of the Rio Olympics should Wiggins featured in the opening | :42:01. | :42:02. | |
of the Games at London 2012. Boxer Nicola Adams, long-distance | :42:03. | :42:07. | |
runner Jo Pavey and tennis player Andy Murray are among | :42:08. | :42:10. | |
the contenders with a decision And Steven Finn is back | :42:11. | :42:12. | |
in the England side to face Pakistan He replaces the injured | :42:13. | :42:19. | |
all rounder Ben Stokes. With the series level at 1-1, | :42:20. | :42:27. | |
with two tests left to play. This weekend is the annual gay | :42:28. | :42:36. | |
pride march in Belfast Same-sex marriage is | :42:37. | :42:38. | |
still illegal there. Last night the Scottish Conservative | :42:39. | :42:45. | |
leader Ruth Davison called on Northern Ireland to follow | :42:46. | :42:47. | |
the example of the rest of the UK So what are the challenges that face | :42:48. | :42:50. | |
lesbian, gay and transgender people living in Northern Ireland | :42:51. | :42:54. | |
where sexual identity and politics Our reporter Peter Coulter has been | :42:55. | :42:57. | |
to meet a transgender You will legislate | :42:58. | :43:00. | |
perversion and immorality. A murderer can be redeemed | :43:01. | :43:11. | |
by the blood of Christ, Homosexuality was decriminalised | :43:12. | :43:13. | |
in Northern Ireland in 1982, A ban on gay men donating blood | :43:14. | :43:30. | |
was lifted this year, Same-sex marriage is still not legal | :43:31. | :43:38. | |
in Northern Ireland. Legislation has been blocked five | :43:39. | :43:45. | |
times by the country's biggest political party, the | :43:46. | :43:50. | |
Democratic Unionist Party. Northern Ireland has come a long way | :43:51. | :43:52. | |
over the past few decades in terms of the peace process, | :43:53. | :43:56. | |
but now it's facing up As time moves on, the country begins | :43:57. | :43:58. | |
to adapt to social changes and the more liberal leanings | :43:59. | :44:05. | |
of its young people, but where does the LGBT community | :44:06. | :44:07. | |
fit into this new piece time I'm Adrianne Elson | :44:08. | :44:10. | |
and I'm a transgender I grew up on the Merseyside | :44:11. | :44:28. | |
and Cheshire border roughly halfway Certainly my primary school was very | :44:29. | :44:33. | |
conservative and I suppose that's where I learned | :44:34. | :44:38. | |
to suppress my feelings a lot. At what point did you realise | :44:39. | :44:44. | |
that you were different? Sort of pre-school age but I had | :44:45. | :44:51. | |
no way to vocalise it. So what was it like for | :44:52. | :44:55. | |
you growing up in Merseyside? It was very northern, | :44:56. | :44:58. | |
if you can say such a thing. Men were expected to be men | :44:59. | :45:01. | |
and women were expected to be women and the gender roles were much more | :45:02. | :45:04. | |
enforced than they are now. After years of struggling | :45:05. | :45:08. | |
with her gender identity, Adrianne decided to move to Northern | :45:09. | :45:11. | |
Ireland. I got myself involved in evangelical | :45:12. | :45:14. | |
Christianity and I just thought that would be a way of purging | :45:15. | :45:21. | |
my feelings from me. The way I was thinking about it, | :45:22. | :45:23. | |
the theory was the plant analogy, that if you don't water | :45:24. | :45:36. | |
plant, it will die. So if you don't give | :45:37. | :45:42. | |
the transgenderism any thought, nature abhors a vacuum | :45:43. | :45:46. | |
so if you are out doing lots of things from dawn till dusk, | :45:47. | :45:49. | |
you never get a chance to dwell Adrianne joined the prominent | :45:50. | :45:52. | |
Protestant leader, the Reverend Ian Paisley's church | :45:53. | :46:02. | |
and his Save Ulster From Sodomy movement, and she joined | :46:03. | :46:05. | |
the Unionist Orange Order. She also picked up manual work as | :46:06. | :46:07. | |
a depot operative on the railways. She hoped that by filling | :46:08. | :46:13. | |
her time with religion, protesting against Belfast's gay | :46:14. | :46:17. | |
pride parade in 2005. I was actually on a protest | :46:18. | :46:30. | |
about gay pride at City Hall and that was where my road | :46:31. | :46:33. | |
to Damascus conversion came because there was a LGBT protest | :46:34. | :46:36. | |
against our protest and I made, momentarily, fleetingly made eye | :46:37. | :46:38. | |
contact with a young man And I just thought, what am | :46:39. | :46:40. | |
I doing here? That's not the devil incarnate, | :46:41. | :46:44. | |
that's not a demon, It was after this incident that | :46:45. | :46:47. | |
Adrianne decided that she would I was so unhappy pretending to be | :46:48. | :47:08. | |
someone I wasn't. I felt like I was an actress playing | :47:09. | :47:12. | |
a male role, a part. Although I had actually come | :47:13. | :47:15. | |
to like the person I was playing, it was still, you know, | :47:16. | :47:18. | |
acting, it was still falsehood. Adrianne began to transition | :47:19. | :47:27. | |
about four years ago. Religion is still extremely | :47:28. | :47:35. | |
important to her and she remains Sometimes I feel marginalised | :47:36. | :47:37. | |
in the sense that I don't feel as though I entirely belong | :47:38. | :47:48. | |
in the LGBT community because of my history and some | :47:49. | :47:50. | |
of my political beliefs or whatever may not be in concert, | :47:51. | :47:53. | |
in tune with that which is widely And conversely, I no longer feel | :47:54. | :47:55. | |
part of the evangelical, sort of, you know, conservative, | :47:56. | :48:22. | |
Protestant community because by very nature of what I'm doing, | :48:23. | :48:24. | |
that excludes me from Adrianne has since found love | :48:25. | :48:27. | |
and has married her partner He has been the victim of a number | :48:28. | :48:30. | |
of trans-phobic attacks and has asked not to be identified in this | :48:31. | :48:36. | |
film for fears of increased abuse. I brought you outside here to show | :48:37. | :48:42. | |
you this church which is a special place for me because this | :48:43. | :48:46. | |
is where I got married in the non-subscribing | :48:47. | :48:48. | |
Presbyterian Church. You have obviously joined | :48:49. | :48:53. | |
this church. You've become a member | :48:54. | :48:56. | |
of the community there. It is really massively important | :48:57. | :48:59. | |
because I didn't really think I would ever find an acceptance | :49:00. | :49:05. | |
in a Christian church. It was like two worlds that | :49:06. | :49:10. | |
coexisted but could not exist together and then | :49:11. | :49:13. | |
being here and being who I am, it has made it so much more real | :49:14. | :49:15. | |
so that I can worship as the person And what's it's like for you walking | :49:16. | :49:19. | |
down the street in Belfast? It has got somewhat easier | :49:20. | :49:29. | |
but it is a little bit like having your fight or flight | :49:30. | :49:32. | |
response switched on. You always wonder if people | :49:33. | :49:34. | |
are checking you out, sizing you up. You walk around and things you may | :49:35. | :49:37. | |
have taken for granted in the past, like some teenagers loitering | :49:38. | :49:40. | |
on a street corner, you will cross the road to avoid them | :49:41. | :49:43. | |
where is maybe in the past Have you or your partner ever | :49:44. | :49:46. | |
encountered any trans-phobic abuse? It seems to be less but certainly | :49:47. | :49:55. | |
the awareness has become a lot more Anything that stands out, | :49:56. | :49:59. | |
anything that makes you different from the crowd will draw attention | :50:00. | :50:03. | |
to you and people will look and do a double-take and then the adverse | :50:04. | :50:06. | |
comments and the catcalls And at times it can be | :50:07. | :50:08. | |
extremely hurtful, some very, very vulgar and nasty | :50:09. | :50:12. | |
and threatening things can be said. And what sort of things have | :50:13. | :50:22. | |
they been saying? Sexual things and threatening | :50:23. | :50:25. | |
things, very, very hurtful things. or, you know, that you want raping | :50:26. | :50:38. | |
and things like that. There has been a lot more trans | :50:39. | :50:46. | |
awareness over the last few years. Do you see the likes | :50:47. | :50:49. | |
of Caitlyn Jenner having raised Yeah, absolutely, I don't know | :50:50. | :50:51. | |
if Caitlyn Jenner is necessarily a good example | :50:52. | :50:55. | |
of a transgender advocate. The celebrity transgender people | :50:56. | :50:57. | |
who can afford to queue-jump, who can afford to get surgery | :50:58. | :50:59. | |
and transition when they want, it's very different to the experiences | :51:00. | :51:02. | |
of maybe someone living in a bedsit in Belfast, vastly | :51:03. | :51:05. | |
different experiences. Adrianne wanted to take me back | :51:06. | :51:13. | |
to show me another part The Orange Order is a Protestant | :51:14. | :51:16. | |
society founded in 1795 to uphold Protestant power in Northern | :51:17. | :51:22. | |
Ireland. It takes its name from | :51:23. | :51:25. | |
the Dutch-born Protestant king, Its members wear orange sashes | :51:26. | :51:27. | |
and are referred to as Orangemen. They parade each year on the 12th | :51:28. | :51:36. | |
of July, marking the date King William defeated the army | :51:37. | :51:39. | |
of Catholic King James II The 12th of July is one | :51:40. | :51:42. | |
of the biggest cultural events in Northern Ireland and thousands | :51:43. | :51:48. | |
of Orangemen like this take For many of Northern | :51:49. | :51:51. | |
Ireland's Catholics, these marches are divisive, | :51:52. | :52:08. | |
with some traditional parade routes passing through staunchly | :52:09. | :52:10. | |
Catholic areas. Most Orange Order parades pass off | :52:11. | :52:19. | |
peacefully but the rest of the world has often only seen the images | :52:20. | :52:22. | |
of those that don't. Adrianne took me to see | :52:23. | :52:24. | |
the Belfast parade. The emphasis is very much | :52:25. | :52:37. | |
on the Christian side of it rather than the parading | :52:38. | :52:40. | |
I felt, but... It was a strange thing for someone | :52:41. | :52:41. | |
of my background to do, who was brought up nominally | :52:42. | :52:44. | |
Roman Catholic, it felt quite privileged to be accepted | :52:45. | :52:47. | |
to be honest with you. How did the Orange Order react | :52:48. | :52:53. | |
when you first told them They weren't sort of cross with me | :52:54. | :52:56. | |
if you see what I mean, they tried to maybe dissuade me | :52:57. | :53:07. | |
in a very gentle and Christian way Would you like to be asked to join | :53:08. | :53:10. | |
the women's Lodge? Yes, I think so, I would like to be | :53:11. | :53:18. | |
given the opportunity. Once again, I don't know if it | :53:19. | :53:21. | |
would really ever be possible. Maybe in the future it would be | :53:22. | :53:25. | |
nice if it was possible, maybe that is something | :53:26. | :53:28. | |
for another generation. Do you think that the Orange Order | :53:29. | :53:30. | |
could accept a transgender member? You have to challenge the status | :53:31. | :53:44. | |
quo or preconceptions Some people would say yes, | :53:45. | :53:48. | |
some people would say no but I'd like to think that it's something | :53:49. | :53:54. | |
for the future, yes. So you've actually brought your | :53:55. | :53:57. | |
Order collarette with you. Most people refer to them as sashes | :53:58. | :53:59. | |
but sashes are for the And this is one you used to have | :54:00. | :54:09. | |
when you used to be an Orangeman? Why do you think you kept it? | :54:10. | :54:18. | |
I don't honestly know. It may be too big a step | :54:19. | :54:23. | |
for the Orange Order to accept a transgender member | :54:24. | :54:26. | |
but Northern Ireland is adapting. There are currently no openly gay | :54:27. | :54:28. | |
politicians in the Northern However, the deputy mayor | :54:29. | :54:31. | |
of Belfast, Mary Ellen Campbell, is the first openly gay person | :54:32. | :54:34. | |
to hold a senior role in the city. Mary Ellen is on completely | :54:35. | :54:38. | |
the opposite side of the political She is a member of Sinn Fein | :54:39. | :54:41. | |
which is an Irish republican party. Mary Ellen invited Adrianne | :54:42. | :54:45. | |
to meet her in a scene many from Northern Ireland would be | :54:46. | :54:47. | |
surprised to see. An openly gay Irish republican | :54:48. | :54:51. | |
Deputy Mayor hosting a transgender | :54:52. | :54:55. | |
Unionist in Belfast City Hall. Years ago, you know, | :54:56. | :55:04. | |
it would have been inconceivable What are your own thoughts about | :55:05. | :55:27. | |
that? This council is run in this building from the 1960s, and I am | :55:28. | :55:34. | |
the first LGBT person, to hold this offers. It would have been | :55:35. | :55:39. | |
unthinkable even ten years ago. I am thankful for the people who elected | :55:40. | :55:44. | |
me and for the people of my party, it is a big role for me, and for the | :55:45. | :55:49. | |
community, for the LGBT community. What you think we need to do next? | :55:50. | :55:57. | |
Winnie to be bringing in legislation on equality that is more in line | :55:58. | :56:06. | |
with what is in GB and the Republic, within these islands, we are | :56:07. | :56:10. | |
sticking out like a sore thumb. How we change the way that things are | :56:11. | :56:14. | |
legislated, people come in and say, this is how I would like you to | :56:15. | :56:18. | |
focus on the issue, this is important. There are people like | :56:19. | :56:30. | |
yourself, who go through the hard battles. I really want to give you | :56:31. | :56:36. | |
that commendation. Belfast is a very welcoming city for all visitors and | :56:37. | :56:41. | |
for the people who live here. I think that if you are dealt to BT, | :56:42. | :56:47. | |
Belfast is a good place to visit, we are a progressive city and open for | :56:48. | :56:49. | |
business. We asked the orange order if | :56:50. | :56:55. | |
transgender members would be allowed to join, in a statement they said | :56:56. | :57:00. | |
that any application is treated on its own individual merits. The next | :57:01. | :57:05. | |
half hour we will be speaking with a campaign for equal marriage, a | :57:06. | :57:08. | |
transgender woman, and the Northern Ireland member of the Evangelical | :57:09. | :57:13. | |
Alliance that opposes gay marriage. Breaking news, which we are getting | :57:14. | :57:19. | |
on a couple of terrorism arrest, two have been arrested on relation of | :57:20. | :57:28. | |
Syria related terror offences. Two men were arrested today in Coventry | :57:29. | :57:32. | |
on suspicion of financing terrorism, West Midlands Counter-terrorism Unit | :57:33. | :57:35. | |
has said that officers are searching to properties, the arrests were part | :57:36. | :57:39. | |
of an ongoing investigation and intelligence led, no immediate | :57:40. | :57:46. | |
threat to public safety. The men can be questioned for an initial 24-hour | :57:47. | :57:49. | |
before they are charged, released or officers can apply for a warrant | :57:50. | :57:53. | |
further detention. Coming up: As a cap is introduced on how much | :57:54. | :58:02. | |
energy firms can charge customers using pre-payment meters - we look | :58:03. | :58:05. | |
at how you can save money on your energy bills and switch suppliers | :58:06. | :58:06. | |
more easily. Very wet weather conditions across | :58:07. | :58:19. | |
the UK, this is a picture from East Midlands, showing that gorgeous | :58:20. | :58:24. | |
sunrise, lots of blue sky. Further north, we have got some showers, | :58:25. | :58:28. | |
also some sunny spells, weather conditions across Northern Ireland, | :58:29. | :58:30. | |
parts of western Scotland going down. Rain and increasing wind. | :58:31. | :58:37. | |
Choppy seas in County Down. There is the area of low pressure, quite a | :58:38. | :58:43. | |
deep area, unseasonably windy for August. Northern areas will see most | :58:44. | :58:48. | |
of the rain, southern areas, compared to the last few days, | :58:49. | :58:51. | |
actually getting away with a lot of sunshine and feeling warm as well, | :58:52. | :58:55. | |
the wind will really be a feature, Irish Sea coast areas 40, 45 mph, | :58:56. | :59:01. | |
really going to be noticeable. Heavy, thundery showers through the | :59:02. | :59:06. | |
afternoon, in towards the Moray Firth, some of the showers hit and | :59:07. | :59:12. | |
miss, could get some local flooding. The wind gust, I have put the arrows | :59:13. | :59:16. | |
on, wet and windy, that will be a feature through the afternoon across | :59:17. | :59:20. | |
much of Northern Ireland, southern Scotland, north and north-west | :59:21. | :59:23. | |
England, North West Wales, heavy rain at times, some showers for | :59:24. | :59:27. | |
north-west England and West Wales but for the Midlands, South and | :59:28. | :59:31. | |
East, a lovely looking day, lots of sunshine around. With that sunshine, | :59:32. | :59:37. | |
averages 23, 20 4 degrees, still a warm day for the North and West. | :59:38. | :59:40. | |
Little bit cooler than that across the extreme north, where we have | :59:41. | :59:44. | |
strong wind and heavy rain. We have lost the humidity of yesterday. As | :59:45. | :59:49. | |
we head on towards the evening, heavy rain clearing away for much of | :59:50. | :59:51. | |
Scotland, overnight, blustery showers. The wind still quite a | :59:52. | :59:57. | |
feature, but easing down all of the time. Temperature wise, not too bad. | :59:58. | :00:02. | |
Area of low pressure tomorrow moving off into the North Sea, still fairly | :00:03. | :00:05. | |
strong wind across the northern half of the UK, continuing to ease down | :00:06. | :00:10. | |
through the day, another blustery start to the day, heavy rain | :00:11. | :00:15. | |
clearing away, then we look at areas of showers, sunshine and showers | :00:16. | :00:18. | |
really sums up tomorrow, some could be quite heavy, north-east England, | :00:19. | :00:22. | |
through the Cheshire Gap, a touch cooler across-the-board, eyes of 22 | :00:23. | :00:28. | |
degrees. Into Friday, pretty decent day, high-pressure rich moving in, | :00:29. | :00:33. | |
very few showers around, sunny spells, temperature 17 to 23 | :00:34. | :00:36. | |
degrees. This weekend looking good, away from the far north-west of | :00:37. | :00:40. | |
Scotland, which could see wet and windy weather, a few showers around, | :00:41. | :00:44. | |
plenty of sunshine, feeling warm in the sunshine. | :00:45. | :00:50. | |
I'm Joanna Gosling, welcome to the programme | :00:51. | :00:54. | |
Coming up before 11am: Four million of the UK's most vulnerable | :00:55. | :00:58. | |
households could see their energy bills capped - under | :00:59. | :01:01. | |
proposals that have been accepted by regulator Ofgem. | :01:02. | :01:02. | |
What it's like to live in a devout community | :01:03. | :01:10. | |
Adrienne from Belfast tells us her story. | :01:11. | :01:16. | |
When people look and do a double take and then the adverse comments | :01:17. | :01:22. | |
and the cat calls and the mockery will come and at times it can be | :01:23. | :01:28. | |
extremely hurtful. Some very, very vulgar, nasty and threatening things | :01:29. | :01:29. | |
can be said. And the terror threat in Europe, | :01:30. | :01:35. | |
as events are cancelled across France - we look | :01:36. | :01:38. | |
at what you need to know if you're Here's Julian in the BBC Newsroom | :01:39. | :01:41. | |
with a summary of today's news. Lower energy prices | :01:42. | :01:50. | |
could be on the way The gas and electricity regulator, | :01:51. | :01:54. | |
Ofgem says it's going to introduce The announcement follows a report | :01:55. | :02:00. | |
published by the Competition and Markets Authority in June | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
which set out ways in Critics say it doesn't go far | :02:05. | :02:07. | |
enough but Dermot Nolan, the Chief Executive of Ofgem, | :02:08. | :02:12. | |
says people will get a better deal. There are a number of important | :02:13. | :02:28. | |
changes. Four million people in the UK are on pre-payment meters. In the | :02:29. | :02:32. | |
last few years they haven't been getting a great deal and we will be | :02:33. | :02:36. | |
introducing clear protection for them which will save them ?70 or ?80 | :02:37. | :02:43. | |
a year. That's important because electricity is an essential service | :02:44. | :02:46. | |
and the vulnerable need to be protected. | :02:47. | :02:50. | |
Two men have been arrested in Coventry on suspicion | :02:51. | :02:52. | |
of terrorism offences related to Syria. | :02:53. | :02:53. | |
The pair, aged 38 and 40, were detained at an address | :02:54. | :02:56. | |
Police say the arrests are part of an on going investigation. | :02:57. | :03:08. | |
into the death of a woman from Bradford has confirmed | :03:09. | :03:11. | |
Samia Shahid, who was 28, died last month while visiting | :03:12. | :03:14. | |
Her husband says she was the victim of a so-called honour killing, | :03:15. | :03:18. | |
an allegation denied by her relatives in Pakistan. | :03:19. | :03:29. | |
Britain's border force has a "worryingly low" number of boats | :03:30. | :03:32. | |
MPs on the Commons Home Affairs Committee say just three boats | :03:33. | :03:35. | |
are available to patrol 7,000 miles of shoreline. | :03:36. | :03:37. | |
It's calling for the Royal Navy to be brought in to help. | :03:38. | :03:40. | |
Our correspondent Angus Crawford reports. | :03:41. | :03:47. | |
A former Director-General of the UK Border Force told this programme is | :03:48. | :03:53. | |
not just about having more boats. We have 16 different agencies involved | :03:54. | :03:57. | |
in border protection, not just the Border Force. Yes, the Royal Navy | :03:58. | :04:02. | |
are part of that. You have got the Maritime and Coastguard Agency, | :04:03. | :04:05. | |
Border Force under the Home Office, Navy under the MoD, you have got the | :04:06. | :04:09. | |
various police agencies and National Crime Agency, we need to make sure | :04:10. | :04:15. | |
they work together under the umbrella of the national maritime | :04:16. | :04:20. | |
intelligence centre. We don't want a number of boats out there if they | :04:21. | :04:25. | |
don't know where to go or who to intercept. Yes, we need more | :04:26. | :04:29. | |
vessels, but I don't think that's the only thing we need. | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
Profits at Britain's biggest bank HSBC have fallen sharply. | :04:34. | :04:38. | |
In the first six months of this year they were down by 29% | :04:39. | :04:49. | |
compared to the same period last year ?7.2 | :04:50. | :04:56. | |
The bank said there had been "exceptional volatility" | :04:57. | :04:58. | |
because of concern about China's economy and Britain's decision | :04:59. | :05:01. | |
There will be more armed police officers patrolling the streets | :05:02. | :05:04. | |
of London from today, in response to recent attacks | :05:05. | :05:06. | |
The move has been announced by the commissioner | :05:07. | :05:09. | |
of the Metropolitan police, Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, | :05:10. | :05:11. | |
They say the aim is to reassure the public and deter attackers. | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
A British man has been killed while fighting with Kurdish forces | :05:16. | :05:18. | |
against so-called Islamic State militants in Syria. | :05:19. | :05:20. | |
Kurdish reports say 22-year-old Dean Carl Evans died last month. | :05:21. | :05:22. | |
His father, John, has confirmed the death. | :05:23. | :05:25. | |
He is the second British man to die while fighting as a volunteer | :05:26. | :05:28. | |
A tribute to Dean Evans was posted to one of the websites | :05:29. | :05:37. | |
It also showed some recent video of him. | :05:38. | :05:41. | |
According to friends, he was on the frontline | :05:42. | :05:43. | |
behind a wall when he was hit by an IS bullet. | :05:44. | :05:45. | |
A female Kurdish fighter who tried to save him was also killed | :05:46. | :05:49. | |
when a rocket-propelled grenade hit them both. | :05:50. | :05:51. | |
On Facebook, John Evans confirmed his son's death. | :05:52. | :05:53. | |
He posted a photo of him when he was a teenager and said | :05:54. | :05:57. | |
he would be loved and missed by all his family and friends. | :05:58. | :06:00. | |
Dean Evans was killed in fierce fighting around the town of Manbij. | :06:01. | :06:05. | |
It's said to be a key staging post on the road to Raqqa, | :06:06. | :06:08. | |
The Foreign Office was unable to confirm his death and advises | :06:09. | :06:22. | |
against all travel to Syria for whatever reason. | :06:23. | :06:24. | |
Last year, another Briton, Erik Scurfield, | :06:25. | :06:25. | |
The former Royal Marine from Barnsley was given full | :06:26. | :06:28. | |
military honours when the Kurdish forces handed over his | :06:29. | :06:30. | |
Dean Evans is said to have left a will saying he wanted to be buried | :06:31. | :06:37. | |
in the Kurdish part of Syria, next to the people he called his | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
The parents of Anton Yelchin - the Star Trek actor who was crushed | :06:41. | :06:55. | |
to death by his jeep have been speaking out about their decision | :06:56. | :06:57. | |
to take legal action against the makers of his car. | :06:58. | :07:00. | |
The 27-year-old was found dead at his home in June. | :07:01. | :07:02. | |
A recall had been in place on the vehicle since April, | :07:03. | :07:05. | |
because similar Jeeps had rolled when owners thought the brake | :07:06. | :07:07. | |
He was our only son and he was a remarkable human being, very modest, | :07:08. | :07:22. | |
very simple, very honest, generous, loving. It is wrong, it is against | :07:23. | :07:31. | |
nature when the parents Bury their own child. That's why we hope that | :07:32. | :07:40. | |
this lawsuit will make our family never go through the same hell that | :07:41. | :07:43. | |
we are going through right now. Two Amur leopards - | :07:44. | :07:58. | |
believed to be the world's rarest big cat have been born | :07:59. | :08:00. | |
at Twycross Zoo in Leicestershire. There are only about 70 | :08:01. | :08:02. | |
of the leopards left in the wild. The zoo says the new arrivals | :08:03. | :08:05. | |
will help ensure the long-term They're the second pair born to mum | :08:06. | :08:09. | |
Kristen and dad Davidoff. The zoo says the new arrivals | :08:10. | :08:16. | |
will help ensure the long-term Lots of you getting in touch on the | :08:17. | :08:29. | |
report of the transgender living in Northern Ireland. Ben tweeted, | :08:30. | :08:33. | |
"Horrible. Northern Ireland is very far behind the UK when it comes to | :08:34. | :08:39. | |
treating trans people with dignity. Dwths Wendy treated, "That's scary. | :08:40. | :08:44. | |
Why can't folk be who they want to be?" | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
Time to catch up with John who has the latest sport. | :08:49. | :08:54. | |
Plenty going on this morning as the build up to the start | :08:55. | :08:58. | |
This morning at Edgbaston England Cricketers take on Pakistan | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
in the third test and that is where we will start. | :09:03. | :09:05. | |
Patrick one all after two tests, England levelling with a comfortable | :09:06. | :09:14. | |
win in the last match at Old Trafford. | :09:15. | :09:17. | |
And with two matches to play, it's all in the balance? | :09:18. | :09:21. | |
Cricket is going to have a lot of competition in the coming weeks with | :09:22. | :09:27. | |
the Olympic Games and the return of the football season dominating the | :09:28. | :09:30. | |
back pages and the sports bulletin, but this one is intriguingly poised. | :09:31. | :09:37. | |
The first Test Pakistan won at Lords, but England roared back in | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
that second Test and because of that have real momentum coming to | :09:42. | :09:44. | |
Edgbaston, but they don't have Ben Stokes. He is a real miss for | :09:45. | :09:47. | |
England both with ball and bat and because he is a big character in the | :09:48. | :09:53. | |
England dressing room. England have recalled Steven Finn which means | :09:54. | :09:58. | |
their batting will be weaker, but Finn has struggled to impress with | :09:59. | :10:01. | |
the ball this season and particularly in the first Test and | :10:02. | :10:06. | |
that's something that Alastair Cook acknowledged yesterday. We have gone | :10:07. | :10:09. | |
for a guy who has got a really good record here. His Test record is | :10:10. | :10:13. | |
fantastic. He picks up wickets. He has done that in the past and we're | :10:14. | :10:17. | |
backing a guy who hasn't had the best summer, but I think a couple of | :10:18. | :10:20. | |
things have changed over the last week, a couple of things physically | :10:21. | :10:26. | |
he sorted out and I thought the way he bowled for Essex, the pace is | :10:27. | :10:32. | |
back up to high 80s and 90s which is when Steven Finn is at his best. | :10:33. | :10:36. | |
Sometimes in selection going that way, you know, people aren't always | :10:37. | :10:40. | |
looking over their shoulder all the time which gives people confidence | :10:41. | :10:43. | |
to go out and express themselves. Changes being made to the England | :10:44. | :10:47. | |
side then Patrick. How will that affect things going into the Test | :10:48. | :10:53. | |
match? Well, it is an interesting one how this one will work out. It | :10:54. | :10:58. | |
won't be a quiet game, John. This ground has a reputation, a deserved | :10:59. | :11:02. | |
reputation as the most boisterous in England and Alastair Cook England | :11:03. | :11:09. | |
talked of the riotous atmosphere, which is something that will inspire | :11:10. | :11:13. | |
the England team. The Pakistan fan have been here going up and down the | :11:14. | :11:18. | |
Edgbaston Road in a bus! England have won six of the last ten Tests | :11:19. | :11:25. | |
and Pakistan have never beaten them here and it doesn't pay to bat first | :11:26. | :11:30. | |
on this pitch. This maybe the crucial day of the series. When I | :11:31. | :11:33. | |
came to the ground I was talking to a taxi driver about the match, they | :11:34. | :11:37. | |
always have an opinion, but he said he didn't know and I think that's a | :11:38. | :11:42. | |
good place to be on the first morning of a Test match! Thanks, | :11:43. | :11:46. | |
Patrick. After missing three drugs tests | :11:47. | :11:52. | |
which could have forced cyclist Lizzie Armitstead to be | :11:53. | :11:56. | |
banned from the Rio Olympics, the silver medallist | :11:57. | :11:59. | |
from London 2012 has admitted she that she was naive in not | :12:00. | :12:03. | |
challenging the first of those until her Olympic place was | :12:04. | :12:07. | |
in jeapordy. It was only | :12:08. | :12:08. | |
after missing a third test and facing a possible two year | :12:09. | :12:13. | |
suspension that she took her case to the court of arbitration | :12:14. | :12:16. | |
for sport and her first failure UK Anti-doping feels there needs | :12:17. | :12:19. | |
to be more explanation I'm not disappointed. I respect the | :12:20. | :12:32. | |
process, the Court of Arbitration for Sport is a very experienced | :12:33. | :12:36. | |
panel. They deal with anti-doping matters probably day in and day out. | :12:37. | :12:42. | |
I have yet to understand fully, because I have yet to see the | :12:43. | :12:47. | |
written decision of the Court of Arbitration for Sport, what it is | :12:48. | :12:51. | |
that this case turned on. And only at that point will I really be able | :12:52. | :12:53. | |
to fully come to a conclusion. We're just days away | :12:54. | :12:56. | |
from the opening ceremony of the Rio Olympics, | :12:57. | :12:58. | |
but already we're looking ahead to Tokyo 2020, | :12:59. | :13:00. | |
with the IOC set to announce today which sports will be added | :13:01. | :13:02. | |
to the Games in four years time. It's one of eight sports that | :13:03. | :13:08. | |
have been shortlisted, British climber and Bouldering world | :13:09. | :13:15. | |
number one Shauna Coxsey says it would be incredible if she gets | :13:16. | :13:18. | |
the chance to compete. I mean it's something that I never | :13:19. | :13:27. | |
expected to see in my professional career as a climber. So it's, it is | :13:28. | :13:33. | |
a bit overwhelming considering climbing being in the Olympics. It | :13:34. | :13:37. | |
is a really accessible sport and it is a very natural sport to do. As | :13:38. | :13:42. | |
kids we want to climb trees and jump around on climbing frames. It is | :13:43. | :13:45. | |
something that feels quite natural and it is so much fun. You see | :13:46. | :13:51. | |
people come in and you get to be a big kid and jump around and climb on | :13:52. | :13:54. | |
things and no one will tell you off for it! | :13:55. | :13:59. | |
That's all the sport for now, I will have more at 10.30am. See you then, | :14:00. | :14:00. | |
thank you. Good news for people who have | :14:01. | :14:04. | |
to use a pre-payment meter There's to be a cap set on how much | :14:05. | :14:07. | |
energy firms can charge It's one of a range of plans | :14:08. | :14:11. | |
designed to make the energy Big energy firms are also | :14:12. | :14:15. | |
going to be encouraged to make it easier for people to switch to other | :14:16. | :14:19. | |
companies to get better deals. The energy watchdog Ofgem says | :14:20. | :14:22. | |
the meter limit will help the most vulnerable and could | :14:23. | :14:26. | |
save them around ?75 a year. Let's talk to David Cox an | :14:27. | :14:33. | |
energy analyst. Ed Kamm, | :14:34. | :14:35. | |
managing director of energy company First Utility and Guy Thompson | :14:36. | :14:37. | |
who runs price-comparison website My Utility Genius, | :14:38. | :14:39. | |
Lisa Frederiksen, a working mum who has found switching | :14:40. | :14:41. | |
to a new supplier frustrating, Thank you very much for joining us. | :14:42. | :14:50. | |
David, first of all, you look at what's going on in the industry. | :14:51. | :14:54. | |
What do you think about what Ofgem has come up with? I think they will | :14:55. | :14:59. | |
implement the CMA report. I think most people in the industry think | :15:00. | :15:04. | |
the CMA report... The competition markets authority. It is a missed | :15:05. | :15:07. | |
opportunity. They have not done a good job in identifying the problems | :15:08. | :15:11. | |
in the competitive market. What's the problems you've identified? | :15:12. | :15:14. | |
People weren't switching enough. They are not looking for the | :15:15. | :15:19. | |
cheapest priced deals and the energy companies, the big six dominate the | :15:20. | :15:24. | |
energy market. Is anything that's come out today going to change that? | :15:25. | :15:28. | |
I don't think so. I'm disappointed with what Ofgem are going to do in | :15:29. | :15:31. | |
terms of implementing the findings. They have to. Ofgem are in a | :15:32. | :15:34. | |
difficult place. They have been criticised heavily in the past for | :15:35. | :15:37. | |
allowing this market not to work very well and in fact, putting in | :15:38. | :15:41. | |
some measures that have actually damaged competition in the market in | :15:42. | :15:45. | |
the past. So they're going to try and implement some of the measures, | :15:46. | :15:48. | |
but I'm not confident that we will see a major step improvement. | :15:49. | :15:54. | |
Ed, you are the biggest of the independents, what do you think | :15:55. | :16:01. | |
about this? We agree. I disagree in that I think the competition | :16:02. | :16:04. | |
authority correctly identified the problem. Too many customers take a | :16:05. | :16:08. | |
passive approach to energy buying. Unlike any product that they buy. As | :16:09. | :16:13. | |
such, 70% of the consumers in the household energy market are on the | :16:14. | :16:17. | |
worse tariffs. I don't blame the consumers for that. The suppliers | :16:18. | :16:20. | |
don't do a lot to prompt them to look at the market to look at better | :16:21. | :16:25. | |
deals and so I think the competition authority correctly identified the | :16:26. | :16:29. | |
problem that you have what we call the tale of two markets, one market | :16:30. | :16:33. | |
that's engaged and they look to switch tariffs and switch providers | :16:34. | :16:37. | |
and they are getting great deals and another segment of the market that | :16:38. | :16:40. | |
doesn't look to engage and doesn't look at the offers on the market and | :16:41. | :16:43. | |
therefore, they get a raw deal from the big six. What they haven't done | :16:44. | :16:47. | |
is they haven't involved that. They have put it back on the consumer to | :16:48. | :16:54. | |
look around. The information remedies of giving the consumers the | :16:55. | :16:58. | |
right information so they can make the right choice isn't strong | :16:59. | :17:04. | |
enough. We think they get worse. It used to be any provider to only | :17:05. | :17:09. | |
provide four tariffs, now you can provide an unlimited amount of | :17:10. | :17:10. | |
tariffs. 'S very few consumers have said that | :17:11. | :17:17. | |
they want more tariffs, if any thing they have said the opposite, we are | :17:18. | :17:22. | |
not pleased because we don't think the competition authority has the | :17:23. | :17:25. | |
right solutions, they have put it on the back of the consumer, and in | :17:26. | :17:29. | |
essence, customers can wallow away on the standard variable tariff, the | :17:30. | :17:33. | |
highest placed on the market, for decades, that is what we see | :17:34. | :17:36. | |
happening in the market today and I do not see that changing. You think | :17:37. | :17:41. | |
it will be more likely that people will switch after today? I don't | :17:42. | :17:47. | |
think it will make any material difference to the man industry. They | :17:48. | :17:52. | |
were not engaged before, they were not engage now. Nobly has chosen to | :17:53. | :18:04. | |
grasp the nettle, symptomatic, when you get the CDMA brought in to deal | :18:05. | :18:08. | |
with the market that already had a regulator, you know that something | :18:09. | :18:11. | |
is fairly substantive the wrong, they still have not chosen to grasp | :18:12. | :18:17. | |
the nettle, 70% of people on standard variable tariff, six | :18:18. | :18:21. | |
companies have a massive voice in the market, in terms of marketing, | :18:22. | :18:25. | |
they can do more talking to people, they can manage the situation. -- | :18:26. | :18:31. | |
CMA. Until you effectively decide that... It is... We have discussed | :18:32. | :18:35. | |
it so many times, there are organisations, companies like yours, | :18:36. | :18:39. | |
all kinds of options out there, that should make it easy for people to | :18:40. | :18:44. | |
switch and they are not switching. It is easy, that is the irony, but | :18:45. | :18:49. | |
the message does not get out there because the people with the weight | :18:50. | :18:54. | |
from a marketing perspective are marketing stay with us, not switch. | :18:55. | :18:59. | |
The messaging is 85% stay with us, because of these reasons... Only 15% | :19:00. | :19:06. | |
of the messaging is switch. Switching is easy but the mechanism, | :19:07. | :19:12. | |
any time anything goes wrong, it is normally a result of the company you | :19:13. | :19:15. | |
are switching from that is the problem, that is not how the | :19:16. | :19:19. | |
consumer sees it, they seem switching as having been the | :19:20. | :19:22. | |
problem... Is that a deliberate ploy by the companies that are being | :19:23. | :19:27. | |
switched away from? I don't know, I think they don't have an incentive | :19:28. | :19:32. | |
to fix it, if you don't have an incentive to fix the issue, then the | :19:33. | :19:38. | |
old adage, that a happy person tells to people and an unhappy person | :19:39. | :19:42. | |
tells 11 people, one person has a bad experience switching because of | :19:43. | :19:47. | |
some fundamental data related issue with the existing supply business, | :19:48. | :19:54. | |
their first move is to blame the switching business or blamed the | :19:55. | :19:57. | |
company they are switching to, simultaneously, the other companies | :19:58. | :20:00. | |
phoning them saying, why are you moving, we can change your direct | :20:01. | :20:03. | |
debit level, which does not change the price, to a more amendable | :20:04. | :20:10. | |
number. Lisa is a consumer, what has your experience been, have you | :20:11. | :20:17. | |
switched? We are one of those consumers, every year we look at the | :20:18. | :20:20. | |
costs and we try to get the best deal, but the issue we have had, | :20:21. | :20:25. | |
with trying to switch, telling a new supply what the meter reading was, | :20:26. | :20:29. | |
they read the meter, they confirmed it, then the old supplier refused to | :20:30. | :20:36. | |
accept that as some kind of method of communication between electricity | :20:37. | :20:41. | |
supplies and gas suppliers, they would not accept the meter reading, | :20:42. | :20:45. | |
it took three months to sort out, in the meantime, they owed us ?290. | :20:46. | :20:51. | |
What do you take from that, does it make you less likely to switch? We | :20:52. | :20:58. | |
look at it every year, switching should be simple, it is not. Finding | :20:59. | :21:04. | |
competitive tariffs is quite congregated, very often you have to | :21:05. | :21:09. | |
do dual fuel versus single fuel, that becomes an issue for some | :21:10. | :21:13. | |
people, because the market is geared towards tiny in towards getting both | :21:14. | :21:20. | |
from one supplier. We asked to go on the single tariff electricity, and | :21:21. | :21:24. | |
single tariff gas, they refused and said we had to go on the joint | :21:25. | :21:30. | |
tariff, which is more expensive. I think that they are pricing it | :21:31. | :21:34. | |
against the consumer all of the time. In the end, if everybody | :21:35. | :21:40. | |
switch, prices would go up across-the-board, because they | :21:41. | :21:44. | |
identified ?1.7 billion that could be saved if everybody switch, it is | :21:45. | :21:45. | |
a mythical number. I think it is. We are privately held, we don't | :21:46. | :22:22. | |
report profit margins, but I cannot say that it is a fraction of six to | :22:23. | :22:27. | |
8%. You cannot run a business on a 1% profit margins, the idea that we | :22:28. | :22:34. | |
can work ?300 of everyone's combined bill would drive the energy | :22:35. | :22:37. | |
companies into bankruptcy, we would not get the investment in | :22:38. | :22:40. | |
infrastructure that we need to the lights on. There is a bit of a | :22:41. | :22:45. | |
fulsome Raj being presented here, to consumers, if everyone switches | :22:46. | :22:53. | |
?300, you will not. Focusing on margin is the wrong thing, you | :22:54. | :22:57. | |
should be focusing on the cost and what a reasonable cost to the market | :22:58. | :23:01. | |
should be, and the reality is that if a company has 70% of the customer | :23:02. | :23:07. | |
bases that do not switch, it has no incentive to become more efficient | :23:08. | :23:10. | |
or deploy the best systems, what you have, having worked with these | :23:11. | :23:14. | |
companies, I have an insider view, businesses that have absolutely no | :23:15. | :23:18. | |
requirement to get better at what they are doing. So they can still | :23:19. | :23:23. | |
report a relatively small margin because costs are massively inflated | :23:24. | :23:28. | |
because they are inefficient. If the competitive market forces them to be | :23:29. | :23:32. | |
competitive, then not all of the 1.3 billion is going to fly back to the | :23:33. | :23:35. | |
consumers, but a significant chunk will. It is not right to say that in | :23:36. | :23:44. | |
a fully competitive world, we... It is not going to happen. Thank you | :23:45. | :23:48. | |
very much, thank you for coming in to speak with us, thank you for your | :23:49. | :23:52. | |
comments, keep them coming in, let us know what your spirits is having. | :23:53. | :23:56. | |
Still to come, another British man has been killed while fighting with | :23:57. | :24:03. | |
Kurdish forces against Islamic State in Syria, we will speak with a | :24:04. | :24:07. | |
representative of his family. Last night, the Scottish Conservative | :24:08. | :24:09. | |
leader Ruth Davidson called on Northern Ireland to follow the rest | :24:10. | :24:13. | |
of Britain and legalise gay marriage. In a moment we will speak | :24:14. | :24:16. | |
with the people directly affected. First, a place where sexual | :24:17. | :24:20. | |
identity, politics and religion regularly clash, Peterculter has | :24:21. | :24:24. | |
spent time with a transgender woman living in Belfast. | :24:25. | :25:04. | |
adapt to social changes, and more liberal leanings of its young | :25:05. | :25:12. | |
people. What where is the LGBT community fitting into this new | :25:13. | :25:17. | |
piece time Northern Ireland? -- piece time. -- peacetime. | :25:18. | :25:31. | |
You have obviously joined this church, you have become a member of | :25:32. | :25:35. | |
the community, how important has that been for you? It is massively | :25:36. | :25:40. | |
important, I did not think that I would ever find an acceptance in the | :25:41. | :25:48. | |
Christian church, it was like to world that coexisted but could not | :25:49. | :25:51. | |
exist together. Being here and being who I am, it has just made it so | :25:52. | :25:59. | |
much more real. So that I can worship as the person I was always | :26:00. | :26:00. | |
meant to be. How did the Orange Order react | :26:01. | :26:33. | |
when you first told them They weren't sort of cross with me | :26:34. | :26:35. | |
if you see what I mean, they tried to maybe dissuade me | :26:36. | :26:40. | |
in a very gentle and Christian way Would you like to be asked to join | :26:41. | :26:43. | |
the women's Lodge? Yes, I think so, I would like to be | :26:44. | :26:47. | |
given the opportunity. Once again, I don't know if it | :26:48. | :26:49. | |
would really ever be possible. Maybe in the future it would be | :26:50. | :26:53. | |
nice if it was possible, maybe that is something | :26:54. | :26:56. | |
for another generation. Do you think that the Orange Order | :26:57. | :26:58. | |
could accept a transgender member? Some people would say yes, | :26:59. | :27:01. | |
some people would say no but I'd like to think that it's something | :27:02. | :27:05. | |
for the future, yes. We ask the orange order if | :27:06. | :27:10. | |
transgender members would be able to join. In a statement they said that | :27:11. | :27:12. | |
"Any application for membership of the Orange Institution is treated on | :27:13. | :27:15. | |
its own individual merits." Last year the assembly voted in favour of | :27:16. | :27:17. | |
legalising same sex marriage but the ruling Democratic Unionist Party | :27:18. | :27:19. | |
used what's known as a Petition of Concern to stop the reform going | :27:20. | :27:21. | |
through. Last year the assembly voted in | :27:22. | :27:42. | |
favour of legalising same sex marriage but the ruling Democratic | :27:43. | :27:45. | |
Unionist Party used what's known as a Petition of Concern to stop the | :27:46. | :27:47. | |
reform going through. We asked the party to allow us to speak to one of | :27:48. | :27:50. | |
their assembly members this morning to discuss the issue, but they | :27:51. | :27:52. | |
refused to allow any to participate. They also refused to provide a | :27:53. | :27:55. | |
statement on any of the issues we'll be discussing. Lets talk now with | :27:56. | :27:58. | |
Adam Murray who works for an LGBT organisation in Belfast and has | :27:59. | :28:00. | |
campaigned for equal marriage, Ellen Murray, transgender woman who works | :28:01. | :28:02. | |
for a support group for trans people in Northern Ireland. Peter Lynas who | :28:03. | :28:04. | |
is the Northern Ireland director of the Evangelical Alliance and opposes | :28:05. | :28:07. | |
gay marriage, Why'd you oppose gay marriage? Good morning, it is | :28:08. | :28:09. | |
important that we get some facts correct, in your report it said that | :28:10. | :28:12. | |
it had been blocked by the times, but that is incorrect, there were | :28:13. | :28:14. | |
four votes prior to that, majority people voted against any change, | :28:15. | :28:16. | |
only in the final vote, this has come before the Zambia five times, | :28:17. | :28:19. | |
only on the last occasion was the petition of concern used, the reason | :28:20. | :28:24. | |
is simple, it requires cross community support. -- this has come | :28:25. | :28:29. | |
before it five times. One is about right, there is no European or UN | :28:30. | :28:34. | |
right to same-sex marriage or to redefine marriage, the second is | :28:35. | :28:37. | |
around love, the reality is that love is not a human rights in that | :28:38. | :28:42. | |
way, the law does not legislate for love, it always puts limits on who | :28:43. | :28:45. | |
you can marry, based on age and family relationships. The final | :28:46. | :28:50. | |
argument is a quality, not long ago, Stonewall were saying that marriage | :28:51. | :28:53. | |
was a hetero normative concept and they wanted civil partnerships, | :28:54. | :29:00. | |
civil partnerships came into being, I gave Adam ?5 notes -- the way in | :29:01. | :29:08. | |
which society has chosen to approach this issue is in the same way as if | :29:09. | :29:12. | |
I gave Adam to ?5 note and I gave you a ?10 note. Adam Murray, what do | :29:13. | :29:21. | |
you say about that? -- ?25 notes. Different but equal, where have we | :29:22. | :29:28. | |
heard that before! -- 2 five pound notes. It is a big thing to ask of a | :29:29. | :29:36. | |
society that has come so far, we won that vote, this cross community | :29:37. | :29:42. | |
support, created to support sectarian domination of one side | :29:43. | :29:46. | |
over the other, this legislation was designed to protect equality, | :29:47. | :29:49. | |
equality is being denied at this point in time. It is really not | :29:50. | :29:53. | |
acceptable and we are not going to accept this different but equal | :29:54. | :29:58. | |
status, this is not just a religious issue, if single marriage as macro | :29:59. | :30:03. | |
marriage is something that is offered to the population large, it | :30:04. | :30:07. | |
must at be offered to everyone equally, the love between two adult | :30:08. | :30:10. | |
men or women is no different than the love shared by one man and one | :30:11. | :30:14. | |
woman. There is no such thing as civil marriage, you can have a civil | :30:15. | :30:19. | |
wedding and a religious wedding but there is only one marriage. Those | :30:20. | :30:26. | |
are intertwined. You cannot have a civil marriage, there is only one | :30:27. | :30:31. | |
marriage. This can redefine marriage and put views on other people. | :30:32. | :30:36. | |
Northern Ireland is getting portrayed as backward, it is | :30:37. | :30:42. | |
inaccurate. Northern Ireland is out of kilter with the rest of the UK on | :30:43. | :30:47. | |
this. 170 countries around the world have marriage between a man and a | :30:48. | :30:51. | |
woman, only 20 have recognised a different form of marriage. It is | :30:52. | :30:56. | |
out of kilter with Scotland and England and Wales but not out of | :30:57. | :30:59. | |
kilter with the vast majority of countries around the world, it is | :31:00. | :31:02. | |
not backward in that sense, it has chosen to go a different way, a | :31:03. | :31:06. | |
consequence of devolution, Northern Ireland gets to do things | :31:07. | :31:07. | |
differently. Does it matter to you? Certainly, it matters to the LGBT | :31:08. | :31:20. | |
community generally in a large way, even for folks who don't avail of it | :31:21. | :31:26. | |
personally, it sends a signal to our community that we have equal access | :31:27. | :31:31. | |
to the benefits of society. This is not about religious institutions and | :31:32. | :31:34. | |
those who have been protected throughout the discussions. We are | :31:35. | :31:37. | |
talking about the role of the State in recognising relationships and not | :31:38. | :31:40. | |
further. What difference do you think it would make, Adam, if gay | :31:41. | :31:44. | |
marriage were given the go-ahead in Northern Ireland? Well, there is | :31:45. | :31:49. | |
that important symbolic aspect. It is about equal status under the law | :31:50. | :31:55. | |
that you have equal access to civil marriage. You know, it is not | :31:56. | :32:01. | |
actually, I think, the biggest issue, you know, we have really big | :32:02. | :32:06. | |
problems with homophobia within our schools and that's for me | :32:07. | :32:09. | |
personally, that's something I care about maybe a lot more, but... So to | :32:10. | :32:15. | |
focus on that then, what do you think would make a difference? In | :32:16. | :32:21. | |
terms of schools? Just in terms of the general intolerance that you are | :32:22. | :32:25. | |
describing and schools are part of that. Schools are the biggest part | :32:26. | :32:30. | |
of it, I think. A lot of the issues we deal with in the LGBT community, | :32:31. | :32:35. | |
higher levels of self-harming and suicide and lower levels of good | :32:36. | :32:38. | |
mental health, these are problems which are formed actually during the | :32:39. | :32:42. | |
formative years of schools and if you asked me one big change I would | :32:43. | :32:48. | |
want, it would be for section 75 or some similar legislation to apply to | :32:49. | :32:52. | |
schools that they have to track homophobic bullying and they have to | :32:53. | :32:57. | |
track homophobic incidents and they have to train their teachers to deal | :32:58. | :33:01. | |
with homophobia and they have to treat homophobia in the same way as | :33:02. | :33:07. | |
they would treat racism. If we were to change that, I think it would | :33:08. | :33:12. | |
have massive changes on our society. Peter respond to that. I have no | :33:13. | :33:16. | |
problem. We have been very clear. I have been at Pride and I have been | :33:17. | :33:21. | |
involved in discussions with Rainbow and other groups on the ground. | :33:22. | :33:25. | |
Clear in term of saying homophobic bullying is wrong. There is no place | :33:26. | :33:28. | |
for that, but it is important that all sides then show how we debate | :33:29. | :33:34. | |
this issue well. The last motion that came, it was limited to | :33:35. | :33:40. | |
couples, only to couples and there are already asking why can't three | :33:41. | :33:43. | |
people who love each other come into a relationship? We need to have the | :33:44. | :33:50. | |
debate. The Green Party said in the UK they want to see three people in | :33:51. | :33:54. | |
a relationship. That's an open and valid position to take. It is one I | :33:55. | :33:57. | |
would object to and say that's our concern. It is undermining a | :33:58. | :34:02. | |
fundamental relationship that is uniquely placed in the case of | :34:03. | :34:05. | |
children. It is a different discussion from the one about gay | :34:06. | :34:08. | |
marriage, but thank you all very much for joining us. Thank you for | :34:09. | :34:10. | |
your time. With the news, here's Julian | :34:11. | :34:13. | |
in the BBC Newsroom. Yoan that, thank you very much. | :34:14. | :34:17. | |
-- Joanna. The gas and electricity regulator, | :34:18. | :34:24. | |
Ofgem, has endorsed a series of proposals designed to cut | :34:25. | :34:26. | |
customers' energy bills in England, Wales and Scotland, | :34:27. | :34:29. | |
calling them a "watershed The proposals include | :34:30. | :34:31. | |
a price cap for pre-payment meters which are used | :34:32. | :34:34. | |
by around four million people. The announcement follows a report | :34:35. | :34:36. | |
published by the Competition and Markets Authority in June | :34:37. | :34:38. | |
which set out ways in Dermot Nolan says people will get a | :34:39. | :34:48. | |
better deal. There is a number of quite important changes. One I would | :34:49. | :34:53. | |
say is the recommendation of pre-payment customers. Four million | :34:54. | :34:56. | |
people in the UK are on pre-payment meters. In the last few years, they | :34:57. | :34:59. | |
haven't been getting a great deal and we will be introducing a clear | :35:00. | :35:03. | |
protection for them which will save them ?70, ?80 a year. That's an | :35:04. | :35:07. | |
important, because electricity is an essential service and the vulnerable | :35:08. | :35:09. | |
really do need to be protected. Two men have been arrested | :35:10. | :35:13. | |
in Coventry on suspicion of terrorism offences | :35:14. | :35:15. | |
related to Syria. The pair, aged 38 and 40, | :35:16. | :35:16. | |
were detained at an address West Midlands Police say | :35:17. | :35:19. | |
the arrests are part A police officer in Pakistan | :35:20. | :35:24. | |
in charge of an investigation the death of a woman from Bradford | :35:25. | :35:28. | |
has confirmed she was strangled. Samia Shahid, who was 28, | :35:29. | :35:31. | |
died last month while visiting Her husband says she was the victim | :35:32. | :35:33. | |
of a so-called honour killing, an allegation denied | :35:34. | :35:38. | |
by her relatives in Pakistan. UK Border Force has a "worryingly | :35:39. | :35:44. | |
low" number of boats patrolling Britain's coasts, | :35:45. | :35:47. | |
according to MPs. The Home Affairs Select Committee | :35:48. | :35:49. | |
said that just three boats are available to patrol 7,000 miles | :35:50. | :35:52. | |
of shoreline. It has called | :35:53. | :35:56. | |
for the Royal Navy to be brought The Government says it's already | :35:57. | :35:59. | |
taking measures to combat a rise in people smuggling and it's ordered | :36:00. | :36:03. | |
eight more patrol vessels. But a former Director-General | :36:04. | :36:08. | |
of the UK Border Force told this programme it is not just | :36:09. | :36:10. | |
about having more boats. We do have about 16 different | :36:11. | :36:18. | |
agencies involved in border protection, not just the Border | :36:19. | :36:21. | |
Force, so yes, the Royal Navy are part of that. You have got the | :36:22. | :36:25. | |
Maritime and Coastguard Agency which comes under the Department for | :36:26. | :36:28. | |
Transport, Border Force under the Home Office, navy under the MoD, you | :36:29. | :36:32. | |
have got the various police agencies, we need to make sure they | :36:33. | :36:37. | |
all work together under the umbrella of the national maritime | :36:38. | :36:39. | |
intelligence centre so that we get the right intelligence because we | :36:40. | :36:44. | |
don't want an armada of boats out there if they don't know where to go | :36:45. | :36:48. | |
and what to intercept. Yes, we need more vessels, but I don't think | :36:49. | :36:53. | |
that's the only thing we need. That's a summary of the latest | :36:54. | :36:59. | |
news, join me for BBC Here's the latest | :37:00. | :37:01. | |
sport now with John. After missing three drugs tests | :37:02. | :37:04. | |
which could have forced Cyclist Lizzie Armitstead to be | :37:05. | :37:07. | |
banned from the Rio Olympics, the silver medallist | :37:08. | :37:09. | |
from London 2012 has admitted she that she was naive in not | :37:10. | :37:11. | |
challenging the first of those until her Olympic place was | :37:12. | :37:14. | |
in jeapordy. It was only | :37:15. | :37:16. | |
after missing a third test and facing a possible two year | :37:17. | :37:18. | |
suspension, she took her case to the court of arbitration | :37:19. | :37:20. | |
for sport and her first failure UK Ant-doping, while happy | :37:21. | :37:23. | |
with the process, feels there needs to be more explanation | :37:24. | :37:27. | |
as to why it was not upheld. Cyclist Sir Bradley Wiggins has said | :37:28. | :37:35. | |
the honour of being flag-bearer at the opening ceremony | :37:36. | :37:38. | |
of the Rio Olympics should Wiggins featured in the opening | :37:39. | :37:40. | |
of the Games at London Playing his part in | :37:41. | :37:45. | |
the opening ceremony. Boxer Nicola Adams, long-distance | :37:46. | :37:47. | |
runner Jo Pavey and tennis player Andy Murray are among the other | :37:48. | :37:50. | |
contenders to carry the flag in Rio, with a decision expected | :37:51. | :37:53. | |
by the BOA today. Steven Finn is back in the England | :37:54. | :37:56. | |
side to face Pakistan He replaces the injured | :37:57. | :37:59. | |
all-rounder Ben Stokes. With the series level at 1-1, | :38:00. | :38:08. | |
it's all in the balance, That's all the sport for now. | :38:09. | :38:22. | |
The Australian family living in the Highlands have been told they have | :38:23. | :38:30. | |
lost their battle to stay in the UK. Gregg and Catherine Brain have | :38:31. | :38:34. | |
failed to find jobs. The Home Office has written to them saying it is | :38:35. | :38:40. | |
asking them to leave. Let's talk to Gregg. Thank you for joining us. Is | :38:41. | :38:44. | |
that it, you have been told you have to go? Well, we have been told we | :38:45. | :38:54. | |
have to go. I think, however, I said I would not characterise this as | :38:55. | :38:58. | |
over. We are talking to our lawyer. We may be able to make an | :38:59. | :39:01. | |
application if an employer comes forward. So certainly, we will be | :39:02. | :39:04. | |
talking to the Home Office about what arrangements need to be made | :39:05. | :39:09. | |
going forward. But we are a long way from giving up yet. What have you | :39:10. | :39:13. | |
been told by the Home Office? Well, we have been told by the Home | :39:14. | :39:18. | |
Office, the letter we received essentially mirrors who they have | :39:19. | :39:23. | |
made in their public statement. As of 1st August we have not made an | :39:24. | :39:28. | |
application, which is true. And that obviously at this point we are here | :39:29. | :39:32. | |
without leave and should be making arrangements to leave voluntarily, | :39:33. | :39:36. | |
however, we are of the understanding that we may be able to make an | :39:37. | :39:39. | |
application and have that considered by the Home Office. We are still | :39:40. | :39:43. | |
searching for an employer and hope that one will come forward and make | :39:44. | :39:47. | |
an application to allow us to stay. We are disappointed that they have | :39:48. | :39:51. | |
decided not to follow what we would have hoped would have been the | :39:52. | :39:55. | |
honourable course in giving us what was promised in the advertising to | :39:56. | :39:59. | |
entice us to come over here when they told us if you come over her on | :40:00. | :40:03. | |
a study visa, there will be this workplace after it. The Immigration | :40:04. | :40:09. | |
Minister says that there are no exceptional considerations which | :40:10. | :40:12. | |
would justify granting you leave to remain outside the immigration rules | :40:13. | :40:15. | |
as they are. Officials will be in touch with you later this week to | :40:16. | :40:19. | |
discuss a voluntary departure to Australia. If immigration officials | :40:20. | :40:24. | |
get in touch and say, "Right, let's plan how you head back to | :40:25. | :40:27. | |
Australia." What will you say? What will you do? Well, what we will be | :40:28. | :40:31. | |
saying to them is we are in discussions with our lawyer that we | :40:32. | :40:34. | |
will be doing everything we can to comply with the laws as they | :40:35. | :40:39. | |
currently stand. We are in the rather cynical situation of hoping | :40:40. | :40:42. | |
that the laws will remain the case and not be changed again because | :40:43. | :40:45. | |
that's what happened. The Home Office said this is the law as it | :40:46. | :40:50. | |
stands and you don't fulfil the criteria, you are here illegally so | :40:51. | :40:54. | |
you have to go? Well, that's the situation as it stands if we don't | :40:55. | :40:58. | |
make an application. I think that the possibility exists that we may | :40:59. | :41:02. | |
still be able to make an application which the Home Office would | :41:03. | :41:05. | |
consider. While things are awkward for us, they certainly admit that, I | :41:06. | :41:08. | |
don't think we are at a situation where they are expecting us to turn | :41:09. | :41:13. | |
ourselves into the local police station and put us in a detention | :41:14. | :41:17. | |
centre and put us on a plane. We are a long way from that point yet. | :41:18. | :41:22. | |
Gregg Brain, thank you for joining us. No problem at all, thank you. | :41:23. | :41:28. | |
The businessman Ian Taylor, who was reportedly in line | :41:29. | :41:30. | |
for a knighthood in David Cameron's resignation honours list, | :41:31. | :41:32. | |
has said he does not want his name to go forward. | :41:33. | :41:35. | |
The oil firm boss is a Conservative Party donor | :41:36. | :41:37. | |
and also made donations to the EU Remain campaign. | :41:38. | :41:39. | |
He has written to both Mr Cameron and Theresa May asking | :41:40. | :41:42. | |
for his name to be withdrawn from the list. | :41:43. | :41:44. | |
Our Political correspondent, Tom Bateman is following | :41:45. | :41:45. | |
Tom, tell us more about the controversy around this and what the | :41:46. | :41:53. | |
latest is? Well, of course, it is several days now since the Sunday | :41:54. | :41:57. | |
Times leaked that list of what it said were people who were in line | :41:58. | :42:01. | |
for honours. The controversy around many of it being because many of the | :42:02. | :42:05. | |
people in that apparent list were those who had given money to a | :42:06. | :42:09. | |
campaign for Britain to remain in the European Union which, of course, | :42:10. | :42:15. | |
the vote that was lost by that side. So there was some criticism of David | :42:16. | :42:20. | |
Cameron in the resignation honours for having apparently wanting those | :42:21. | :42:24. | |
people to get knighthoods and other such awards. Now, what we have had | :42:25. | :42:30. | |
overnight, late last night, Ian Taylor, who as you mentioned is a | :42:31. | :42:34. | |
Chief Executive of the oil company, but also a key beenor to the Tory | :42:35. | :42:38. | |
Party, understood to have given hundreds of thousands of pounds over | :42:39. | :42:42. | |
the years and donated to the Remain campaign in the referendum. He came | :42:43. | :42:45. | |
out and said well, look, if it is true that I am on the list, to be | :42:46. | :42:50. | |
given a knighthood, effectively, I don't want it. He in a statement | :42:51. | :42:54. | |
said that he had written to the current Prime Minister, Theresa May | :42:55. | :42:57. | |
and her predecessor David Cameron saying he wishes to be taken out of | :42:58. | :43:02. | |
the running for that honour. He also referred to the way in which his | :43:03. | :43:07. | |
company had been the subject of attacks of speculation in the press | :43:08. | :43:11. | |
which was completely inaccurate. So this is another twist in that sort | :43:12. | :43:18. | |
of furore around the honours, the resignation list that David Cameron | :43:19. | :43:21. | |
put out. I don't think will be the end of it, we are seeing mutterings | :43:22. | :43:25. | |
that perhaps the system needs to be reformed further and being made more | :43:26. | :43:28. | |
transparent, but remember, there is a key difference between these | :43:29. | :43:32. | |
resignation honours that are in the gift of an outgoing Prime Minister | :43:33. | :43:37. | |
and the usual honours we are used to at New Year and the Queen's birthday | :43:38. | :43:41. | |
honours which tend to go through what is seen to be a system that is | :43:42. | :43:45. | |
more balanced and with greater transparency, but I think we can | :43:46. | :43:47. | |
expect more questions about that as well. | :43:48. | :43:48. | |
Thank you very much, Tom. A British man has reportedly been | :43:49. | :43:53. | |
killed while fighting with Kurdish forces against so-called | :43:54. | :43:55. | |
Islamic State militants in Syria. Kurdish forces say Dean Carl Evans, | :43:56. | :43:57. | |
who's from Reading, was killed His father has confirmed his death | :43:58. | :44:00. | |
on social media saying, "He was loved and will be missed | :44:01. | :44:05. | |
by all his family and friends". Mr Evans was one of many foreign | :44:06. | :44:09. | |
volunteers who joined the People's Defence Units or YPG, | :44:10. | :44:14. | |
the Kurdish military force With me is Mark Campbell, | :44:15. | :44:16. | |
a UK-based pro-Kurdish activist, who speaks on behalf | :44:17. | :44:24. | |
of Dean Carl Evans' family and also Hamish De Bretton-Gordon, | :44:25. | :44:26. | |
a former British Army officer now helping train Peshmerga | :44:27. | :44:29. | |
forces in Iraq. Thank you very much for coming in. | :44:30. | :44:36. | |
Mark, tell us more about Dean, where he was and what he was doing? Well, | :44:37. | :44:42. | |
can I first say before I do that that when Dean join the force, he | :44:43. | :44:50. | |
put on his next of kin form, his stepfather who he has been brought | :44:51. | :44:55. | |
up by for the last 16 years. So it is his stepfather rather than his | :44:56. | :45:00. | |
biological father who I'm here speaking on behalf. OK. I mean Dean | :45:01. | :45:07. | |
made his way, it was his second time out. He went there last year and he | :45:08. | :45:12. | |
was there for the last three or four months this time. He made his way to | :45:13. | :45:20. | |
the front line against Isis. And found himself fighting fierce | :45:21. | :45:27. | |
battles going on which is the town which the Kurdish forces with the | :45:28. | :45:35. | |
air support of the Americans are to take before Raqqa the main head | :45:36. | :45:38. | |
quarters and he was behind a wall. He was shot. | :45:39. | :45:46. | |
A Kurdish woman fighter from the word PJ, she came to his aid, and | :45:47. | :45:54. | |
tragically both of them were hit by an RPG rocket from the icy side. And | :45:55. | :46:04. | |
he died. Both of them died. -- YPJ. Why was he there? Why did he want to | :46:05. | :46:10. | |
go there and fight? Like a lot of these fighters... You interviewed me | :46:11. | :46:15. | |
one year ago on BBC news 24, when the first UK fighter died, we are on | :46:16. | :46:26. | |
the second anniversary of the taking of these Edy genocide, today is the | :46:27. | :46:34. | |
second anniversary, and if you follow the situation very closely, | :46:35. | :46:41. | |
people cannot be anything but impressed by the heroic actions of | :46:42. | :46:48. | |
these heroic fighters. We talk about the latest Isis attack in Germany | :46:49. | :47:05. | |
and Nice. -- Yazidis. Speaking with his stepfather, he had a very | :47:06. | :47:10. | |
intense interest in military matters, and he tried to join the | :47:11. | :47:13. | |
British Army, but he could not because he had mild asthma. I think | :47:14. | :47:20. | |
that watching the rise of Isis, coupled with his interest in | :47:21. | :47:24. | |
military matters led him to the front lines, which is where | :47:25. | :47:29. | |
tragically he has lost his life. Are there many like him, Brits fighting | :47:30. | :47:37. | |
in this this way? I salute his courage, and to go back to a | :47:38. | :47:40. | |
battlefield twice, that takes real guts, for a young man from Reading. | :47:41. | :47:45. | |
I absolutely do not recommend this for anybody. The Foreign Office | :47:46. | :47:49. | |
direction on this is absolutely right, do not do it, if you want to | :47:50. | :47:54. | |
help, join the Army, I know that Dean could not, and maybe the Army | :47:55. | :47:59. | |
should look at that for courageous people like him, exactly the sort of | :48:00. | :48:04. | |
people we want in the Army, if you cannot, will some charities, medical | :48:05. | :48:07. | |
charities that I work with in Syria and Iraq, medics under fire, they | :48:08. | :48:13. | |
would love this kind of support. When I am in northern Iraq, working | :48:14. | :48:17. | |
with the Peshmerga, I occasionally meet foreign fighters who are there, | :48:18. | :48:22. | |
but if you are not fully trained, getting on a battlefield like this, | :48:23. | :48:26. | |
whatever your motivation for doing it, and we all want to fight against | :48:27. | :48:31. | |
Islamic State and see the end of it but it is not the way to do it, you | :48:32. | :48:36. | |
need to be properly trained and equipped to be on a battlefield like | :48:37. | :48:40. | |
this. What would it be like for an individual like him to arrive in | :48:41. | :48:43. | |
that environment and find their way to the front line, what would he | :48:44. | :48:48. | |
have been encountering? A huge challenge, I do not know the YPJ | :48:49. | :48:53. | |
very well at all, the Syrian Kurds, the Iraqi Kurds, the Peshmerga, I | :48:54. | :48:56. | |
know them very well. You can fly very easily there are, three-hour | :48:57. | :49:02. | |
flight from the UK, there are British military personnel, the 1st | :49:03. | :49:05. | |
Battalion of the rifles are there, training the Peshmerga at the | :49:06. | :49:09. | |
moment. The Peshmerga are doing an amazing job. What we have two | :49:10. | :49:14. | |
remember, the Kurdish are our boots on the ground, the British public | :49:15. | :49:18. | |
have very clearly articulated they do not want to see British boots on | :49:19. | :49:22. | |
the ground in Iraq and Syria to defeat Islamic State, therefore we | :49:23. | :49:26. | |
must do all that we can to support them, the activities of Dean and | :49:27. | :49:30. | |
others, although slightly misguided, absolutely right, what we should be | :49:31. | :49:36. | |
asking is, what should we be doing more, what should the British | :49:37. | :49:40. | |
government be doing more, the international coalition, what more | :49:41. | :49:43. | |
should be done to make sure the Kurdish are properly equipped, | :49:44. | :49:46. | |
supported and trained to carry out the battle on the ground that week, | :49:47. | :49:50. | |
democratically, do not want to do ourselves. Anchor | :49:51. | :49:56. | |
In Europe, Germany is deploying troops on the streets for the first | :49:57. | :50:10. | |
time since the Second World War. In France, as well as increased | :50:11. | :50:13. | |
security on the street, dozens of much anticipated events have been | :50:14. | :50:16. | |
cancelled because of concerns that there would not be adequate | :50:17. | :50:27. | |
security. Here in Britain, the Met Police and the London Mayor Sadiq | :50:28. | :50:29. | |
Khan have said there will be more armed officers at prominent | :50:30. | :50:35. | |
landmarks in the capital. In Nice, where 84 people were killed after a | :50:36. | :50:38. | |
man crashed a lorry into a large crowd who were celebrating Bastille | :50:39. | :50:40. | |
day, the council has abandoned plans for open air concerts on August | :50:41. | :50:43. | |
15th. In Marseille, they've cancelled a show by the equivalent | :50:44. | :50:46. | |
of the French Red Arrows which was set for August the 13th. And in the | :50:47. | :50:51. | |
capital Paris, where last November, gunmen and suicide bombers killed | :50:52. | :50:53. | |
130 people, they've cancelled a basketball tournament, a popular | :50:54. | :50:55. | |
open air film festival, and called off plans to turn the Champs Elysees | :50:56. | :50:56. | |
into a car-free zone for 24 hours. With me now is Tom Jenkins, Chief | :50:57. | :51:00. | |
executive, at the European Tour Operation Association. And joining | :51:01. | :51:06. | |
us from Nice is Vincent Rozeron, a journalist from French Newspaper | :51:07. | :51:11. | |
Nice Matin and we're also joined by Francois Navarro, Managing Director | :51:12. | :51:13. | |
of Paris Region Tourist Board. First of all, if I can come to you, you | :51:14. | :51:20. | |
are a journalist in Nice, what impact has the attack had, what | :51:21. | :51:23. | |
changes you are seeing, what cancellations? The drama, the | :51:24. | :51:36. | |
concert on the 15th of July, Rihanna, that has been cancelled. | :51:37. | :51:40. | |
The Nice jazz festival, that has been cancelled. In the city next to | :51:41. | :51:54. | |
it. Juan-les-Pins, they're jazz festival has been cancelled, and the | :51:55. | :51:59. | |
fireworks, that has been cancelled as well. What is the atmosphere, are | :52:00. | :52:06. | |
holiday-makers going about holidays as usual, does it feel different? It | :52:07. | :52:12. | |
feels different, there is still a lot of tourists everywhere. After | :52:13. | :52:22. | |
the drama, people have said that Nice is becoming empty. That is not | :52:23. | :52:26. | |
true, there is a lot of people in the streets, because it is the | :52:27. | :52:31. | |
French Riviera, a lot of people, but still, there is less than expected, | :52:32. | :52:35. | |
of course. You represent the region of Paris, the tourism board, | :52:36. | :52:46. | |
Francois, are you seeing visible changes? We are noticing that | :52:47. | :52:48. | |
everything is done by the authorities to protect tourists in | :52:49. | :52:55. | |
Paris. All the main museums and monuments, the department stores, | :52:56. | :53:00. | |
train stations, even the airports. Paris is back to business. We have | :53:01. | :53:05. | |
less tourist, of course, but everything is back to normal. When | :53:06. | :53:12. | |
you say less tourist, how much of the numbers falling? If you add up | :53:13. | :53:19. | |
Japanese and American visitors and Chinese visitors, I think we are | :53:20. | :53:26. | |
less ten or 15% for the high season, of course there is an impact, but | :53:27. | :53:34. | |
Paris is still Paris. The impact is real, we cannot deny it, but we | :53:35. | :53:40. | |
think that next autumn, everything will be back to normal. When you say | :53:41. | :53:44. | |
specifically Japanese, American and Chinese tourist, is that because | :53:45. | :53:49. | |
they are the nationalities who are mostly staying away? Yes, Chinese | :53:50. | :53:56. | |
visitors are very impacted by this issue. In Japan, security is | :53:57. | :54:05. | |
something very important. We have less 60 persons in Paris, that is | :54:06. | :54:12. | |
very important and huge. Talking about American Chinese visitors, it | :54:13. | :54:18. | |
is not the same impact. American visitors, 10%. -- | :54:19. | :54:24. | |
-- Japanese is the worst market for us at the moment, we have less 60%. | :54:25. | :54:33. | |
The markets are reacting strongly, that is good for us. John Jenkins, | :54:34. | :54:38. | |
you are from the European tour operators Association, how are you | :54:39. | :54:41. | |
looking at this? I would echo what has been said by Francois, naturally | :54:42. | :54:46. | |
when you look at long haul visitors coming into Europe, they see it as | :54:47. | :54:53. | |
Europe, and if an incident happens in France, it impacts the UK and | :54:54. | :54:59. | |
Germany as well. Overall, we are seeing a drop in demand from America | :55:00. | :55:07. | |
and Japan and China, roughly 15%. It is a measurable impact, it has to be | :55:08. | :55:11. | |
said. 15% here in the UK, same across the board. Translate that | :55:12. | :55:20. | |
into what it can potentially mean for businesses? If you are | :55:21. | :55:23. | |
unreliable upon American and Japanese business, you will be | :55:24. | :55:25. | |
seeing a significant shortfall, the thing to realise is that normally, | :55:26. | :55:31. | |
the impact at such events is temporary, we would expect, | :55:32. | :55:36. | |
particularly nowadays, with consumers much more sophisticated | :55:37. | :55:42. | |
than they were ten, 15, 20 years ago, we would see a shortfall in | :55:43. | :55:47. | |
bookings of about six, seven weeks. After that period, things bounce | :55:48. | :55:54. | |
back. I would hope that the season from September onwards will see a | :55:55. | :55:57. | |
sick of the conductor and, particularly with the stronger | :55:58. | :56:01. | |
dollar. Obviously the summer season is particularly important in the | :56:02. | :56:12. | |
area where you are. Of course, people wait for this season, because | :56:13. | :56:20. | |
it is where tourists come. It is very big here. Are the tourists | :56:21. | :56:28. | |
reassured by the visible presence of security on some beaches, even, in | :56:29. | :56:33. | |
the south of France? I don't know about that. The security has been | :56:34. | :56:42. | |
reinforced since the 14th of July, in the airport, for example, there | :56:43. | :56:47. | |
is a military force which has been doubled. The national police have | :56:48. | :56:59. | |
more power now. Tom, you said about your expectation and hope that a | :57:00. | :57:07. | |
downturn would be short lived. Desperately sad and sensational in | :57:08. | :57:12. | |
some ways, the incidence we have had in Paris and Nice, but they must be | :57:13. | :57:18. | |
seen in the context of 80 million foreign visitors going to France | :57:19. | :57:22. | |
every year. Statistically, your chance of being caught up in | :57:23. | :57:28. | |
anything is almost zero. I think that gradually, the reality creeps | :57:29. | :57:34. | |
in to the marketplace, people genuinely discount the kind of scare | :57:35. | :57:38. | |
stories we are getting at the moment. I have every confidence that | :57:39. | :57:44. | |
the market will return, it always does. Thank you very much | :57:45. | :57:47. | |
with joining us. Breaking news to bring new there has been an incident | :57:48. | :57:55. | |
at the main airport in to buy, and Emirates flight has crash landed | :57:56. | :57:59. | |
from India, 275 passengers were on board. -- at the main airport in day | :58:00. | :58:10. | |
by. -- at the main airport in Dubai. Emirates has an excellent safety | :58:11. | :58:13. | |
record. Emergency services are there, the latest coming up on that | :58:14. | :58:17. | |
and all the rest of the news on BBC newsroom live. Thank you for your | :58:18. | :58:21. | |
company today, have a lovely afternoon. | :58:22. | :58:24. |