04/08/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello it's Thursday - it's nine o'clock, good morning

I'm Chloe Tilley in for Victoria, welcome to the programme.

Our top story today - One dead and five injured in a knife

Police arrest a 19-year-old man - they say mental health could be

a significant factor - but terror is 'one line of inquiry'.

I'm in Russell Square at the scene of the attack where the police

investigation continues and the police are saying terrorism remains

one line of enquiry. Also today - at midday,

all eyes will be on Bank of England governor Mark Carney who's expected

to announce the first interest rate cut for seven years -

we'll be looking at what that could mean for you, your family -

and for the economy. Five years ago the fatal shooting

five years ago of Mark Duggan in Tottenham spark major right across

England. People in Tottenham have always said the social issues led to

the violence. We will be looking at what has changed. -- sparked major

riots. Hello, welcome to the programme,

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A woman in her 60s has been killed in two people remain in hospital

after a night attack in central London. Police were called to

Russell Square at 10:30pm last night. The suspected attacker, 19,

was tasered on the scene and arrested on suspicion of murder. He

remains in custody at South London police station. Police say mental

health was a significant factor but terrorism remains a line of enquiry.

Our correspondent reports. It was just after 10.30 when police

were called to Russell Square in Central London, where a man armed

with a knife was reported A woman, believed to be

in her 60s, died at the scene. Two women and three

men were injured. And overnight came a statement

from the Head of Counterterrorism Early indications suggest that

mental health is a significant factor in this case -

and that is one major But, of course, at this stage

we should keep an open mind regarding motive, and, consequently,

terrorism as a motivation remains but one line of enquiry

for us to explore. Armed officers were at the scene

within minutes, and they used a taser stun gun while they were

arresting the suspect. I arrived here to my hotel

and I saw the guy getting There were two police cars,

and it was like, erm, African, native American man...dark-skinned

man, you know, black person... And we heard that there's

been stabbing going on. The streets were blocked and no-one

was allowed through, yeah, from 1am until now -

so it's been a good six hours. The investigation is being led

by the Met's Homicide Command, and they're being supported

by counterterrorism detectives. At the crime scene,

forensics teams will spend A 19-year-old man is under

arrest in hospital. Well, for more on this I'm joined

by our correspondent Richard Galpin, who's outside Russell Square

underground station Richard, a very confused picture as

to the motive, but what details do you have right now? The details are

still pretty scant. We had the one statement from the police during the

night in which they say they are looking at a whole series of

different, potential motives for this attack. But one of them, they

are saying, they are not ruling out the possibility that terrorism was a

motive. They are saying more strongly that they believe mental

health was a significant factor in this attack. One eyewitness has been

saying to us that he witnessed the incident and was saying that they

heard the man who carried out the attack screaming his guts out. That

was when the police tasered him and were pinning him down. That is going

to be a significant factor in this enquiry. It still leaves the issue

of what the motive for the attack was. Terrorism is one line of

enquiry, just one. We know these people were injured. Is it clear how

serious those injuries are at this stage? Five other people were

injured. We've just heard from the police that three of those people

have actually now been discharged from hospital. For them their

injuries were not serious. But two remain in hospital. We don't have

details. Their injuries must be more serious if they are still in

hospital hours after this attack. Thank you very much. Now, a summary

of the rest of the day's news. There is speculation that the Bank of

England may cut interest rates today for the first time since 2009. It is

thought Mark Carney will announce a reduction from 0.5% down to 0.25% at

noon. Economists have predicted a rate cut is intended to boost the UK

economy after the vote to leave the European Union. Millions of people

have become so worried by their addiction to digital devices that

they have taken a digital detox. Emma Simpson has more details.

Nothing beats getting away from it all.

If I Google that, we will be able to look today.

I find it totally impossible just to put it away and not

I like to keep in touch with everybody and I like to be able

to post all my photos to Facebook so my friends can see where we are.

I am usually on Facebook a bit of Instagram.

We are now spending the equivalent of just over a day a week online

A third of adults have taken a "digital detox" or break to strike

For instance, 16% of us have made a point of going somewhere with no

I don't find it is something you need every day. I don't have to be

on the Internet. We are better connected than ever before.

But the challenge is to not let technology take over our lives.

Jeremy Corbyn and the former Shadow Cabinet minister Owen Smith

will go head to head tonight in the first Labour

It's the first of a series of hustings between the contenders.

In a speech this morning, Mr Corbyn is expected

to explain how he'll "rebuild and transform Britain",

while Mr Smith is expected to say that only he can unite the party.

The Olympic Games opening ceremony takes place tomorrow,

and the Olympic torch has arrived in Rio de Janeiro

after a three-month tour of Brazilian cities.

There were chaotic scenes when the Torch relay was challenged

by hundreds of demonstrators, who are angry at the cost

Riot police used tear gas and pepper spray to disperse the crowd.

One of David Cameron's closest political allies has attacked the

honours list and said it is a serious type of very British

corruption. Steve Hilton, one of Cameron's close senior advisers

while in Downing Street, said the list was proof that places in the

House of Lords could be bought for political donations. He suggested a

cap on donations and an elected upper house.

The world's tallest moving observation tower

The viewing tower,created by the architects of the London Eye,

and called the i360, consists of a column

with a moving glass viewing pod, which takes customers to the top

On a clear day, they can see the Isle of Wight,

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30.

Thank you. Looks coming up. We will be hearing from an eyewitness who

was caught up in that knife attack last night in central London.

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I was confused yesterday because the Olympics opening ceremony was

tomorrow, but the football has started for the women.

It has yeah, it is a longer tournament and they need the time to

fill it in. It has to start before the opening ceremony. There is big

news concerning the opening ceremony. Andy Murray said he was

left speechless by being asked to be Great Britain's flag bearer at that

opening ceremony on Friday. A warning, some flash photography

coming up. Murray has competed at the last two Olympic Games, winning

gold and silver in London. Sir Bradley Wiggins had turned down the

opportunity. Murray says he is honoured to have been selected. I

was just getting into bed, about 11:15pm, I was in my pants. Our team

leader came and said that the Chef de Mission needed to speak to me. I

jumped out of bed, ran downstairs, Mark gave me the news and I was

speechless, really. I didn't know what to say. I was repeating myself,

I think, a lot, saying how honoured I was.

The Russian athletes seemed in good spirits as they were officially

welcomed to the Olympic Village, despite their team being severely

reduced due to the numerous bands following allegations of

state-sponsored doping. Many not knowing if they will be allowed to

compete but there is some defiance among those who will be. We are even

more united than ever. We have all come together. We sang the national

anthem today. There was a great atmosphere. We are stronger.

Everybody is extremely motivated. We will try to prove we deserve this

and we are one of the best nations of the world. I think it is very

important in this political situation. Hopefully we will become

stronger. The Olympic action is already

underway with the women's football starting yesterday. Hosts Brazil

were one of the teams in action. They beat China 3-0. The men's

tournament gets underway this afternoon.

World heavyweight champion Tyson Fury faces a UK and in tribunal

alleging he has tested positive for a banned substance. He was

provisionally suspended in June. That has been lifted pending his

hearing. His cousin and fellow boxer has also been charged, although both

deny the charges. England's hopes of winning their

Test series against Pakistan suffered a setback. They were bowled

out on day one of the third test at Edgbaston yesterday. Five wickets

for Sohail Khan. He tore through the opening quarter as England struggled

to 158-5. They recovered to reach 297. But it was Pakistan's day

thanks to Sohail Khan's wickets. They have got a good attack. They

bowled well. There was sideways movement for them. It was tough all

day. It kept you honest. At the end of the day we probably have a fine

score. Celtic are through to the Champions

League play-offs after a narrow win against Astana. They needed a

last-minute penalty against the Kazakhstan side to make it through.

Meanwhile, Wayne Rooney celebrated 12 years at Manchester United last

night with a testimonial against his former club Everton. He sat with his

youngest son, who looks ready for a spot on the Old Trafford bench

already. That is all the sport for now. We

will be live in Edgbaston to look ahead today two -- to day two.

A woman has been killed and five people have been injured in a knife

Two of the injured are still in hospital.

The attack took place around ten thirty last night in Russell Square.

A 19-year-old man was tasered, and arrested at the scene.

Detectives say mental health was a 'significant

factor' but terror is also a line of inquiry.

This eye witness describes what he saw as the man was detained.

What I heard first was the sirens, and then I saw flashing lights,

which is quite unusual because this is a quiet street, right?

Then I opened the window and I heard people screaming,

And this man, the guy, the suspect, was running this way.

And three or four police officers were running after him.

I saw them shooting at him, almost here, can't really remember where.

I thought it was a gun, but then I found that it was not a gun.

So many police officers just came here, they blocked the street.

I actually thought he was dead because he wasn't moving.

And then I saw him, like, moving his legs.

And he stayed down there for, like, I don't know,

And, yeah, at the end they arrested him.

The Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, has this morning urged Londoners

Amy Cole is outside the Metropolitan Police

We were speaking a while ago to Richard Com he said it is such a

confused picture and it is still not clear what the motive is, what are

the police telling you? -- to Richard, he said.

Armed police officers were at the scene within five minutes of

receiving the call. They tasered the 19-year-old suspect. No shots were

fired. In what was a slightly unusual move, the Met police held a

press conference in the early hours of this morning. Mark Rowley gave us

a bit more of an idea, a bit more of an insight into those lines of

enquiry. A 19-year-old man was arrested

shortly after 10:39pm and is currently in police

custody at hospital. Early indications suggest that

mental health is a significant factor in this case, and that is one

major line of enquiry. At this stage we should

keep an open mind regarding motive, and consequently,

terrorism as a motivation remains one line of enquiry

for us to explore. At present, the Met's homicide

command are investigating the incident, but at present

they are supported by our As a precautionary measure tomorrow,

Londoners will wake up and in the morning they will notice

an increased police presence on the This is there to provide

reassurance and safety. We ask the public to remain calm,

vigilant and alert. As he said this morning, Londoners

waking up to an increased armed presence. While I have been here in

the last hour I have seen a couple of armed police officers walking up

and down. Their presence is designed to reassure the public and to deter

would-be attackers. This is a situation where we are still waiting

to hear more about. The 19-year-old suspect is now in police custody,

where upon the police will have chance to properly interview him and

try to find out what his motives were. STUDIO: Thank you for speaking

with us. The Bank of England is expected to make the first cut in

interest rates for more than seven years today as the economy falters

in the wake of the vote to leave the European Union. Economists predict

the bank's monetary policy committee will slash rates from half a percent

to a historic low of quarter of a percent in an effort to stave off a

recession. What would the cuts mean for you? Let's take a look.

For the first time in a long time, interest rates might be

The last time the Bank of England changed the cost of borrowing

Back then, Gordon Brown was still Prime Minister,

David Beckham was still playing for England and the Olympics in

Now, though, most people do expect to see an interest rate

The idea is to give the economy a boost after that

Plenty of critics, though, think that may do more harm than good.

So, here are the arguments for and against -

This decision may come down to confidence, or how confident

I'm reading the headlines in the newspapers, and they're

all saying, people clamouring to do trade deals with us.

I'm a little unsure as to what's going to happen, with Brexit

And my future, because I'm only young, and I need to

And I'm worrying that I won't be able to afford a mortgage.

Since we voted to leave the EU, new economic data has been a bit

But what we do have isn't very encouraging.

A closely-watched poll of consumer confidence showed the biggest drop

in optimism in a quarter of a century last month.

There are also some early signs that house-buyers are starting

An interest rate cut should make borrowing cheaper and go some way

So this is the new property that we're looking at buying,

It could help people like Andrew, about to move into a bigger place

When you look at purchasing a new property, how important

are interest rates and that calculation to you?

You know, that affects our mortgage payments, it affects what we can

And we've obviously got to weigh it up carefully with the size

So it's really important for our monthly budgets, really.

He's holding of signing the documents for the moment,

though, until he's sure what the Bank of England will do.

If it's a favourable decision for us and the rate goes down,

then we will go back to the bank and renegotiate.

If it goes up, which I doubt, but if it does, we'll

sign the paperwork as quickly as possible!

A quarter point rate cut this afternoon could save someone

with a ?200,000 tracker mortgage about ?300 a year.

But it's thought 80% of homeowners are now on some kind of fixed-rate

deal, so they're unlikely to benefit straightaway

Then there are what companies and businesses are feeling,

and again, there are some early signs of a slowdown.

A handful of big firms, British Airways among them, have

Manufacturers in particular are getting jittery.

We've seen a number of confidence surveys coming from consumers

and businesses since the vote to leave the European Union,

and they've all painted a pretty negative picture.

So there has been a shock to the system from the

That could potentially weigh on economic growth

We don't have any concrete data on that at the moment

but I think it's right that the bank act quickly.

A done deal, then - a quarter point cut in rates today

to calm the economy and encourage us to start spending.

There are a heap of good reasons to think all this talk of economic

It might look like France or Germany, but no, this vineyard

English wine has been talked up as the next big thing for years.

A third of this crop is already exported,

much to countries outside the EU, like the United States and Japan.

If there's doom and gloom here, it's very hard to find it.

Demand for the products has been basically skyrocketing.

So, Brexit doesn't really worry me unduly, if I was honest.

The common external tariff is pretty low -

it's only 25 cents a bottle, or thereabouts.

So if we had no deal at all with Europe, presumably

we would end up having to pay 25 cents a bottle, to get

But reality check - the Europeans sell far,

far more wine to us than we would ever sell to them,

so I would expect that a deal would be done on that.

Since we voted to leave the EU, the value of the pound

That works both ways for a company like this.

It makes selling wine either more profitable or easier.

But on the other hand, we buy a lot of capital

equipment from Europe - tanks, presses - that

will cost us more to import because of the fall in the pound.

So overall, do you benefit from that fall, or does it cost you money?

Some believe the drop in confidence we saw in the immediate aftermath

A new government has been formed quickly,

and the stock markets have now bounced back.

A cut in interest rates might help borrowers,

but it hurts savers, of course, and it could damage

Many think there are better ways of encouraging us to spend.

I'm not convinced that the benefit of cutting interest rates now

I think there are some very significant downsides.

I would now be looking at something like a VAT cut.

I would be wanting to see the Chancellor do something

I would want to see measures to put more money into people's

pockets, basically - give them more to spend,

perhaps some other tax cuts, perhaps looking at reversing some

of the benefit cuts we've had as well.

A difficult balance, then, for the Bank of England.

Perhaps its most important decision in seven years.

We will get the official verdict on the stroke of midday. We will be

looking out for that. For more analysis

Bronwyn Curtis is here. Bronwyn is an independent economist

who is on The Times' The Shadow MPC includes nine former

policymakers who monitor the Monetary Policy Committee's

Bank Rate decisions, and make rate

recommendations of its own. We heard the case for the cut, a

quarter of 1%. Do you think it's the right thing to do now? No, I don't

think it's the right thing to do now. I think we should just wait,

because it's so uncertain. We don't know what's going on. The reason we

had this knee jerk reaction of companies not probably investing

because it's uncertain, and people not spending. I don't think a

quarter of a percent will make any difference, but it has been so well

talked about now by Mark Carney, the governor of the Bank of England,

that I think they have to do it. . They also have to do it because if

the bank of England does nothing and we hit a recession however many

months down the line, he would be criticised. He might be criticised

but we expect the monetary policy committee to do the right thing. Not

just because they would be criticised, they are meant to be

independent, so they should be looking at it to do the right thing.

I don't think it will do much harm having quarter of a percent. They

will probably do something to increase the amount of money

available for banks to lend as well. That might come with it. But it

doesn't matter how much and you have till end, if people don't want to

borrow, then the economy anyway will tend to fall. And we expect to see a

recession. Why don't you think people will borrow money? If the

money is made available, why won't it a carriage people, which is the

plan? People are worried about the future. -- why won't it encourage

people. They tend not to borrow when they are worried, they tend to wait

and see what will happen. You need demand for credit. If you didn't get

demand at half a percent, is a quarter of a percent cut going to

make a huge difference? That point on having a recession and you think

that's inevitable, what do you think Mark Carney and the new Chancellor

of the Exchequer should do if the rate cut is not the right thing to

do. Overall policy is what they need to look at, monetary and fiscal

policy. In other words, tax and spend, as well as monetary policy.

There are discussions in the markets about perhaps the Bank of England

providing money to the government to do some spending. Borrowing at very

cheap rates and giving it to the government to do infrastructure

spending and all sorts of things like that. That's a combination. We

want to see what will happen with tax and spend. That will have more

impact than monetary policy now. We have seen that across the world, not

just the UK. Monetary policy at these levels has reached the end of

its effective time. Is it all because of Brexit? Yes, it's mostly

because of Brexit. I think the economy was already slowing before

Brexit, but we have seen the currency dropped by 11% since May.

7% since Brexit against all the other currencies in the world. We

have seen companies say that they will wait. I think a lot of it, the

tip into recession, which I expect to see in the third quarter, and I

expect growth next year to be much lower and inflation higher, which

isn't good if you are buying food, clothing and all that sort of thing.

Lots of people in the media since the Brexit vote have said, you'll

talk us into a recession, stop saying it because it can be avoided.

But you it's inevitable. I think it's inevitable come you don't talk

yourself into a recession. We need to get rid of the uncertainty and we

need stability. With Brexit, the uncertainty goes on for a long time

and it will have an impact. That's causing the problem. I will not take

out an extra mortgage just because rates come down a quarter of a

percent. In fact, banks might not cut mortgage rates. Because it might

cost too much money to do so. HSBC said yesterday that a cut of quarter

of a percent would cost them ?100 million in lost net income. Thank

you for coming in. After 10am we will talk to four people who have

different perspectives of whether an interest rate cut would be good or

bad for them. More on the London stabbing attack shortly. We have

heard Maher of London Sadiq Khan is cutting short his holiday and will

give a news briefing at 3pm. Still to come...

Five years ago, the fatal shooting of Mark Duggan in Tottenham

by undercover police officers sparked the worst riots of recent

times across London and other English cities: we'll be looking

Since Nigel Farage resigned last month, the party has been hit

by bitter in-fighting over who should replace him -

Here's Julian in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

An old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a woman in

her 60s was killed and five people were injured in a knife attack in

Russell Square, central London. -- a 19-year-old man. The man remained in

custody at a south London police station. Two victims remain in

hospital. Three others have been discharged. Sadiq Khan is cutting

short his holiday to deal with the response of the attack. One witness

told us what she saw. I looked out the window and I saw a black man who

was running down the street. As he was running down the street he was

turning to see if the police were coming close. I could hear the

policeman screaming stop, don't go any further, stay where you are, and

he turned round and continued running. He wasn't prepared to stop.

There's speculation that the Bank of England may cut interest rates

today, for the first time since March 2009.

It's anticipated that Mark Carney, the Bank's Governor,

will announce a reduction from half a percent, to a quarter

Last month the Monetary Policy Committee voted to hold

interest rates, despite economists predicting a cut.

A rate cut would be intended to boost the UK economy

following the vote to leave the European Union.

Internet overload has led millions of people in the UK

to take a digital detox, according to research

Its survey found more than 30 per cent of internet users have

taken between a day and a month away from the web.

Almost 60% of those surveyed, consider themselves to be

Jeremy Corbyn and the former shadow cabinet minister Owen Smith will go

head to head tonight in the first Labour leadership debate.

It's the first of a series of hustings between the contenders.

In a speech this morning, Mr Corbyn is expected

to explain how he'll "rebuild and transform Britain",

while Mr Smith is expected to say that only he can unite the party.

The Olympic Games opening ceremony takes place tomorrow,

and the Olympic torch has arrived in Rio de Janeiro

after a three-month tour of Brazilian cities.

There were chaotic scenes when the Torch relay was challenged

by hundreds of demonstrators, who are angry at the cost

Riot police used tear gas and pepper spray to disperse the crowd.

One of David Cameron's closest political allies has attacked

the honours list and said it is a serious type

Steve Hilton, one of Cameron's close senior advisers

while in Downing Street, said the list was proof that places

in the House of Lords could be bought for political donations.

He suggested a cap on donations and an elected upper house.

The world's tallest moving observation tower

The viewing tower, created by the architects of the London Eye,

and called the i360, consists of a column

with a moving glass viewing pod, which takes customers to the top

On a clear day, they can see the Isle of Wight,

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10:00.

Thanks, let's get some sport. The main headlines in sport, Andy

Murray said he lapped out of his bed in his underpants to learn he would

be Great Britain's flag bearer in fright's opening ceremony at the Rio

Olympics. He has said he is humbled and will be extremely proud to carry

the flag. Climbing is one of the new sports to

be approved for the next Olympic Games. Skateboarding, serving,

karate, and baseball have also been brought in for 2020. -- surfing.

Tyson Fury will face an anti-doping tribunal after he was charged over

the alleged presence of a banned substance in tests taken early in

2015. A provisional suspension has been lifted pending the case. He and

his cousin, also a boxer, have denied any wrongdoing.

England were bowled out for 297 on the third day -- on the first day of

the third test against Pakistan. Mousa Dembele scored in injury time

penalty to send Celtic through to the Champions League play-off round.

They beat Kazakhstan champions Astana 2-1 in Glasgow to seal a 3-2

aggregate win. We will be back just after ten,

talking cricket. Thank you.

It's five years today since the killing of Mark Duggan

who was shot by undercover officers in Tottenham in north London.

It was originally reported that there had been a shootout

between Mr Duggan and the Police, but two days later it emerged

that the only shots fired had been from the officers.

What followed were five nights of rioting that started in Tottenham

They left five people dead and caused more

Howard Johnson takes a look at the epicentre of that

That's why I'm saying to myself, you know what, in order for them

to be some sort of change, the community needs to do it.

We need to, we're the people that live in the community,

So, this is Tangmere - this is where I used to live.

This is where me and Mark used to live.

The riots is the language of the unheard, you get me?

So I believe people in high places heard that voice,

But at the same time, Jermaine Beckford got

So I don't think it's really changed, but I think

they recognise now that these people are willing to fight.

If they get pushed into a corner too much.

It's something what stirs up every now and again,

It can be quiet for a while, and then for some reason,

Tottenham, five years on, we have moved on quite considerably.

They've refurbished a lot of the areas that people would not

So, things have definitely changed economically,

We need to speak to our young people.

They're still being stopped, they're still being searched.

So I would say, five years' time, we're making steps, we not fully

there but we're making the steps that we need to get ourselves heard.

People in Tottenham maintain that there were a vast array

of social issues that lead to the riots rather

than just mindless violence by an apathetic youth.

We asked both the Secretary of State for Communities

and Local Government Sajid Javid and Haringey Council Leader Claire

Kober to join our discussion this morning but both refused.

Let's talk now to Marcus Knox-Hooke, Mark Duggan's best friend

and the subject of documentary 'The Hard Stop', that films

producer George Amponsah, a long time Tottenham resident

and lawyer who defended a number of people accused

of rioting Jude Lanchin, and Oxford Law graduate Fahim Alam

who was falsely accused of violent disorder during the riots.

Thank you all for coming in. I appreciate it. In that BT we were

talking about this, a story like this happens, the media descends,

then they disappear for five years and suddenly people are interested

again. -- VT. Would you take us back to the aftermath of your friend's

Mark Duggan's death, what you think happened, and why the riots began?

The day mark got shot. No family liaison officer came to report his

death. -- Mark. We got no answers to what he was shot. An announcement

was made by the family that we would go to the police station and demand

answers to why nobody has come to the family and to find out what he

had been shot. Saturday, we went to the police station, the mother of

Mark's kids, she enquired as to what was going on. She was asked to wait

for a Police Commissioner, or somebody, to come to speak to her.

Six hours later an officer came out and said the commission cannot make

it. -- Commissioner. They locked the doors and left us on the streets. We

were out there with our mothers, Mark's mum was there, so were his

children. My mum, just family members. I suppose we just felt

humiliated, disrespected, and just felt, yeah, like, just disregarded

as nobody, I suppose. I went into my own zone. We didn't expect what was

about to happen next. We can't just walked away from everybody. A police

car was parked the side road -- on the side road. I took out my

frustration on the car. From that initial act everything kind of

escalated from there. As you did that did people follow you? Yeah.

Was that just anger. Was that, you are not listening to ask you are

disrespected us, this will make you listen? -- listening to us. It was a

little bit of that. And what we've witnessed over the years. Somebody

was killed in the 1985 riots. I was about four on the estate, and years

after Joey Gardner was killed, years after that Roger Sylvester was

killed, and obviously Mark Duggan being the last person. It's like,

enough was enough. Do you... You are obviously angry. You felt

disconnected. But do you look back and regret because you were blamed

by the police. The riots? You went to prison. People died, a lot was

damaged, do you regret what you did? A lot of people were made homeless.

-- by the police for the riots. My initial fight was against the

police. I would not blame myself for the riots. At the police spoke to us

-- had the police, and spoken to us within that hour I'm sure the crowd

would have left peacefully. -- had the police,

We were made to wait outside a police station for six hours. Later

disrespected. You were nodding throughout. Tell us your thoughts.

-- blatant disrespect. It is probably the wrong question to say

that he is responsible for the riots. That is what the police said.

Obviously he had a particular set of feelings at the time. There was

obviously anger. But deep grief. He lost his best friend in

circumstances which were unexplained. There had been a media

blow out. Initially straightaway saying Mark was involved in a shoot

out, which then turned out not to be true. But it is worth saying that a

gun was found close to his body and there was some disagreement as to

whether it was thrown by Mark. That is something we can confirm. In the

inquest the forensic expert confirmed that given the injuries

Mark received he was shot twice, including in the right arm. There is

no way he could have thrown the gun to the distance it was found. There

is all of this anger in the community. Explain what Tottenham

was like before that. This was not just a one-off incident as Marcus

has explained, it sounds like you are saying this was the straw that

broke the camel's back. Tottenham had the riots in 1985, which came

out of the death of a black woman. In circumstances where her son had

been arrested for a minor crime. They went to the house and she died.

Subsequent to that there was the death of Joy Gardner at the hands of

immigration detention officers and the police. Roger Sylvester who had

mental health difficulties. And in fact where the jury in the inquest

had found was unlawfully killed and then Mark. And also I think it is to

do with Tottenham and the sense of grievance. And years and years of

lack of accountability that all of these things happened. But also

compounded by the daily experiences people had of interaction with the

police that were negative. No accountability within the judicial

processes for those deaths. For example, in Roger Sylvester's case

the jury found he was unlawfully killed and an application was made

to a higher court to get that overturned on the basis that the

jury was apparently confused by the evidence. It's a long history. Then

compounded by the utter disrespect that the family felt that nobody

from the police authorities, police or ICC, went to the family to say to

them this is what has happened. Nobody in two days. George, you have

been in, you have followed Marcus and his friends. You got involved in

the following years from those riots. What are your thoughts

following that, speaking to Marcus, speaking to other people?

I'm not from Tottenham. I was born in West London, but I'm old enough

to remember the 1985 news reports. To be honest, someone emanating from

nice places like Putney and Chiswick, I remember thinking, I'm

glad I don't have to live there. Skip 30 years, and London is in

flames, emanating from a riot, again in Tottenham from somebody who comes

from Broadwater farm. The phrase, history repeating itself, it

couldn't be more apt at that point. My initial interest in making the

film was simply... I had the opportunity and access to film with

childhood friends of Mark Duggan, and as far as I saw it, here was an

opportunity to actually find out from people who I felt at the time

perhaps had a genuine reason for rioting, and these were clearly not

people who were taking an opportunity to run into Foot Locker

to get free goods. That was my initial impression. What do you mean

about that? So many reports on the news about people running up with

plasma televisions and things. I think that kind of detracted.

Although it was happening and was very tragic, it was quite

extraordinary the way the rioting spread, and was allowed to spread.

But it kind of detracted from why this happened in the first place and

what happened in the first place. And that was all about Mark Duggan.

You were falsely accused of taking part in the riots. Explain what

happened. I was arrested in Hackney on the 8th of August 20 11. They had

an overnight court setup. I was remanded in custody and not given

bail. Six weeks after spending some time in prison, I was on a tag for

six months before I was acquitted in a trial by jury. What did you make

of the justice meted out? You had all these politicians with very

strong words about the riots across England, and many police criticising

young people. Did you feel there was an understanding of the grievances?

You went through that justice system. There was a lot of

injustice. As Marcus and everyone else has pointed out, there is

historical and structural injustice. There is a pattern behind all of

this that is all too familiar. You can look in the United States where

there is a similar situation going on. It's something that isn't

accidental. There is a lack of focus on institutions such as the police,

IPCC, the court system, and the media, including the BBC and other

agencies who took the word of the IPCC or what the police had to say,

and reported it as though Mark Duggan was a gunmen. What has

changed five years on? Marcus, has Tottenham changed? Nothing has

really changed. Just a couple of months ago, five years on from

Mark's death, another young lad was shot dead, Jermaine Baker. The only

thing I've noticed that has changed, since Mark's shooting, there have

hardly been any police on the estate. Up until that point police

were always present on Broadwater farm. But since Mark was shot, you

don't see police on the state really. What's the relationship

between the police? You mentioned in the US, Black Lives to make matter.

Do you think there is a better connection between the police and

community in Tottenham? The main response to the riots in Tottenham

and many other areas was this relentless process of

gentrification. There were many reports and enquiries that came out

after the riots, eventually, that the government commissioned after

deciding it wasn't all about criminality. From each of you, what

would you like to see and what would you like the police to do and what

would you like to see change in Tottenham? For them to police the

streets properly, and not abuse their authority, so to speak. It's

like they are using their permission to oppress people instead of helping

them. -- using their position to oppress people. Maybe I'm

old-fashioned but I would like to see some sort of return to real

community policing, so you have sections of the police in Tottenham

who are part of the community and regarded as such. What I would like

to see in Tottenham and across the board, not so much about policing,

is proper funding, government and local authority funding and

initiatives for young people. We are in a situation five years on where

there has been huge cuts, and it seems self-evident, and I know

people might see it as a repeated mantra, young people, young people,

but the reality is that in Tottenham, as in many places, there

have been huge cuts in youth provisions. If there was a

substantially different approach to working with young people on an

everyday level, perhaps many things would change. I think the police

need to change their ways and also admit where they have done wrong in

order for the community to be able to move on and move forward. As long

as there is this historical injustice hanging over the

community, nothing will be resolved. You are all talking about trust.

Thank you for coming in today to all of you. We asked the Metropolitan

Police for a statement that we have not yet received. But we did get a

statement from Haringey Council... The Department for Communities

and Local Government have also sent Coming up, could you give up social

media for a whole week? I had to, and I will explain why in a while.

60% of you in the UK admit to being hooked on digital devices.

Since Nigel Farage resigned as Ukip leader straight after the UK voted

for Brexit on June 23rd, bitter infighting has overshadowed

Yesterday, the favourite, Steven Woolfe was excluded -

when he submitted his nomination papers 17 minutes

Three members of Ukip's ruling National Executive Committee

immediately resigned amid accusations of political bias.

Let's talk to Matthew Goodwin, author of the book Revolt

On The Right and a leading expert on Ukip

and Lesley Ede, Graham Reakes and David Adams -

three Ukip voters who have been watching the leadership

Also with us via Skype is Mick McGough, who stepped down

from the NEC after the decision to exclude Steven Woolfe yesterday.

Thank you all for coming in. Mick, you were one of the members of Ukip

who resigned from the NEC. Why was that? I had been unhappy for some

time. It has been building up. I was particularly against the treatment

of Nathan Gill, the leader in Wales, who they want to stand down as an

MEP. If he does that, we lose an MEP, and there will be great cost to

the public to have a by-election. We would lose staff, we would be one

MEP down, and it's a nonsense. Fair enough, he said he would stand down

if he got both jobs, but things have moved on. They are not pragmatic

enough to accept change. The NEC are now bound rigidly to the minutiae in

order to attack people. In regard to the leadership election, Steven

Woolfe was overwhelmingly the favourite in my opinion. I'm getting

inundated with calls. He was a face that people outside Ukip would

possibly no more than anyone else. Just bringing in Matthew for a

moment. Some people say Ukip is in complete disarray after losing Nigel

Farage, this huge character. And they are now getting rid of the one

person everyone else seemed to know. There is certainly a crisis brewing

and it could get worse before it gets better. There is talk on the

one hand about completely reforming Ukip, getting rid of the ruling

body, which is quite controversial in the party. It could go in a

different way which would be a new movement, a breakaway party, perhaps

led by influential Ukip donors and those loyal to Nigel Farage. As

voters, what would you like to see Ukip do now? Lots of people sate

Brexit is sorted, what purpose does Ukip have? Nothing has been sorted

on Brexit whatsoever yet. Until we see anything concrete, I think it's

too soon to say. Regarding the election for a reader, I think

Steven Woolfe and Diane James are my two preferred choices. But Steven

Woolfe seems to have tripped up and we can't really afford to throw

talent like that away. Tripped up, 17 minutes seems very harsh. It is.

We need Ukip to be able to hold the government to account on Brexit. We

don't want Brexit-lite. The red line for me is the immigration issue. We

don't want open borders, so we need a strong Ukip to hold the government

to account. And also we need it for democracy, we need checks and

balances that the other parties give to that. Interesting that you both

say you need Ukip to hold the government to account. Does it mean

that when Brexit has been achieved there is no place for Ukip any more?

Nobody knows any of their other policies. They have lots of other

policies beside that. For example, they are into the environment. For

example, they want to get rid of wind farms, because they think they

damage the environment. And there's other issues, more local to me, an

issue with Goodwin Sands where the local harbour board want to dredge

Goodwin Sands, and they are against that. Do you think many other people

know these other policies of Ukip? Most people just see them as the

exiting Europe party. It played a part in winning nap vote. Ukip needs

to think about what it says on the economy and health care, what it

says on big issues that really matter to voters aside from

immigration and how the negotiations with the EU go from here. Do you

worry about your party going forward, Nick? Looking at the list

of names on the ballot for the leadership, most people will not

have heard of these people. Whether or not people have been heard of,

doesn't mean they are not a credible force. But you have to engage the

public and if there is a general perception that you are just the

leave Europe party, you needed Nigel Farage for that character, didn't

you? We've had a lot of success in the council elections. It's not just

about Europe. We had a very well-received manifesto to the

general election last year. It was so good that the media didn't want

to pick up on it. It was fully costed. All the policies are there.

But when we get a reader, that leader will be in the spotlight and

be able to put themselves forward and address the situation. I have no

worries about the party and qualities of the party and the

policies will promote. As your colleagues on the panel say, Brexit

was our raison d'etre and we have to see it through. And it will happen

for a feud years yet, it will take quite a bit of time to see that

through. Thank you all for coming in and joining us. Coming up on the EE

of the Olympic Games opening ceremony, we will speak to an

athlete who is about to board her playing to Rio and 218 GP super fan.

Time for the latest weather update. Improvement today regarding the

wind. The deep area of low pressure...

As for a mixture of sunshine and showers, some of them quite heavy

and thundery at times. Potentially through the Midlands and North East

England, very hit and miss the showers, difficult to pinpoint where

they will be. A lotto dry weather in between, blustery at times with wind

easing down through the day. Top temperature of 2223 in the

south-east, a view down on what we had yesterday. -- of 22 or 23. Here,

feeling chilly with temperatures of 13 or 14 in Scotland, plenty of

sunshine in Belfast. Wind beginning to die down further, becoming much

lighter. Also showers disappearing, so with clear skies and light wind,

recipe for a chilly night, particularly across the Glens of

Scotland where we could see freezing temperatures and a touch of frost in

sheltered glens. Friday starting on a cool note with a ridge of high

pressure coming in to settle things down. Light wind, a a lot of dry

weather with very few showers. Some later on in Northern Ireland and

northern Scotland, but most places will be dry. Because of lighter

winds and strong August sunshine, it will feel warmer than today. For the

weekend, for much of England and Wales, eastern Scotland, dry weather

and warmth. It will be quite settled across Northern Ireland and Scotland

with a deep area of low pressure moving in. We could see some severe

gales, pretty unusual for this type of year. Warm, mid 20s in the south,

high teens in the North. Our top story this morning -

a woman's been killed Police have arrested

a 19-year-old man - they say mental health could be

a significant factor - He was carrying a knife in his hands

and he had blood on his hands. I'm in Russell Square where the

attack took place last night. The police cordon has been lifted but

the investigation continues. Also today:

For the first time since March 2009 - the Bank of England is expected

to cut UK interest rates at midday today.

We'll be looking at what that could mean for you, your family -

The Olympic Games opening ceremony gets underway tomorrow -

we'll be talking to two athletes about to board their plane to Rio

Here's Julian Worriker in the BBC Newsroom

A 19-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a woman

in her 60s was killed and five people were injured in a knife

attack in Russell Square in central London last night.

Police used a Taser to arrest the man who later received

He's now in custody at a south London police station.

Two victims are still in hospital while three others

The Mayor of London Sadiq Khan is cutting short his holiday to deal

This eye witness describes what he saw as the man was detained.

What I heard first was the sirens, and then I saw flashing lights,

which is quite unusual because this is a quiet street, right?

Then I opened the window and I heard people screaming,

And this man, the guy, the suspect, was running this way.

And three or four police officers were running after him.

I saw them shooting at him, almost here, can't really remember where.

I thought it was a gun, but then I found that it was not a gun.

So many police officers just came here, they blocked the street.

I actually thought he was dead because he wasn't moving.

And then I saw him, like, moving his legs.

And he stayed down there for, like, I don't know,

And, yeah, at the end they arrested him.

There's speculation that the Bank of England may cut interest rates

today, for the first time since March 2009.

It's anticipated that Mark Carney, the Bank's Governor,

will announce a reduction from half a percent, to a quarter

Last month the Monetary Policy Committee voted to hold

interest rates, despite economists predicting a cut.

A rate cut would be intended to boost the UK economy

following the vote to leave the European Union.

Internet overload has led millions of people in the UK

to take a digital detox, according to research

Its survey found more than 30% of internet users

have taken between a day and a month away from the web.

Almost 60% of those surveyed, consider themselves to be

Jeremy Corbyn and the former shadow cabinet minister Owen Smith will go

head to head tonight in the first Labour leadership debate.

It's the first of a series of hustings between the contenders.

In a speech this morning, Mr Corbyn is expected

to explain how he'll "rebuild and transform Britain",

while Mr Smith is expected to say that only he can unite the party.

The Olympic Games opening ceremony takes place tomorrow,

and the Olympic torch has arrived in Rio de Janeiro

after a three-month tour of Brazilian cities.

There were chaotic scenes when the Torch relay was challenged

by hundreds of demonstrators, who are angry at the cost

Riot police used tear gas and pepper spray to disperse the crowd.

Dramatic footage test emerged -- has emerged of the devastation caused by

wildfires in Fort McMurray, Alberta. The blaze forced 80,000 residents to

leave their homes. Canada's Red Cross says it has raised more than

?150 million to help Fort McMurray residents to recover.

One of David Cameron's closest political allies has attacked

the honours list and said it is a serious type

Steve Hilton, one of Cameron's close senior advisers

while in Downing Street, said the list was proof that places

in the House of Lords could be bought for political donations.

He suggested a cap on donations and an elected upper house.

The world's tallest moving observation tower

The viewing tower, created by the architects of the London Eye,

and called the i360, consists of a column

with a moving glass viewing pod, which takes customers to the top

On a clear day, they can see the Isle of Wight,

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30.

Lots more coming up, including: Could you live without your digital

devices? According to Ofcom well over half of us are hooked to the

Internet and it is apparently affecting the way we lead our lives.

What do you think? Do get in touch. Now let's get the sport from Hugh,

and Andy Murray's year gets better He says he was left speechless by

being asked to become Great Britain's flag bearer at the

Olympics opening ceremony. He's competed at the last two Olympic

Games, winning gold and silver in London.

Sir Bradley Wiggins had turned down the opportunity.

Murray says he is honoured to have been selected.

I was just getting into bed, about 11:15pm, I was in my pants.

Our team leader came and said that the Chef de Mission

I jumped out of bed, ran downstairs, Mark

gave me the news and I was speechless, really.

I was repeating myself, I think, a lot, saying how honoured I was.

bowled out for 297 on day one of them at test against Pakistan at

Edgbaston. The result could be crucial. It is currently at 1-1.

Patrick is at the ground. I guess Pakistan would be more pleased but

we won't know where it stands until they have batted, as well.

Yes, one of the unwritten rules of Test cricket is do not judge a score

too much until you've seen both sides battled the same pitch. When

we left yesterday 297 all out seemed below par. But this could be a

useful total. It was a very good day for Sohail Khan, the Pakistan

bowler, back in the test side for the first time in nearly five years.

He took 5-96, including some special deliveries to get rid of the England

top order. There were some mistakes from individual batsmen. That is

certainly what Pakistan would have decided to bowl first. The team

batting first don't have a good record here. The fact England have

any respectability is down to Gary Ballance who made a very careful 70.

He admitted in his press conference yesterday that England found batting

tricky. They've got a good, balanced attack in this game. A good attack

overall. They bowled well on a pitch that offered a bit of, you know,

sideways movement for them. It was topped the whole day. It felt like

they were always in the game. It kept you honest. I think we probably

have a powerful score. The weather in Salford hasn't been great. I can

see a patch of blue sky behind you. What will it be like in Edgbaston,

and who would it suit? Positively tropical at the moment.

Some showers are lurking. There is a strong breeze which will push them

through. That may create some disruptions. We got lucky yesterday

even though there was some rain. Tomorrow looks more settled. If it

becomes more overcast you feel it would suit the inswinger seam

bowlers of England. Chris Woakes especially. He made his debut here

for Warwickshire ten weeks ago to the day. Today might be his day.

Thanks very much. World heavyweight champion

Tyson Fury faces a UK anti tribunal alleging he has tested

positive He was provisionally

suspended in June. That has been lifted

pending his hearing. His cousin and fellow boxer

has also been charged, Celtic are through to

the Champions League play-offs They needed a last-minute penalty

against the Kazakhstan side Meanwhile, Wayne Rooney celebrated

12 years at Manchester United last night with a testimonial

against his former club Everton. He sat with his youngest son,

who looks ready for a spot A woman in her 60s has been killed

in two people remain in hospital after a night attack in central

London. Police were called to Russell Square at 1030 last night.

The suspected attacker, 19, was tasered at the scene and has been

arrested on suspicion of murder. Scotland Yard says mental health was

a significant factor but terrorism remains a line of enquiry. Our

correspondent is in Russell Square, central London. This line from

police that they are looking at mental health but not ruling out

terrorism. No, although I think it is

potentially significant in this latest statement we've had. They are

not mentioning terrorism at all. They say the focus of their enquirer

is the issue of mental health. They are keeping an open mind as to what

the motive was. No mention of the word terrorism in the latest

statement from the police. That was what they were saying earlier, that

was something they were looking at. At the moment the investigation is

still being looked at by the homicide squad and the Metropolitan

Police but they have support from counterterrorism officers, as well.

Any more details on the conditions of the people who have been injured?

Not really, no, but we do know now that initially five people were

taken to hospital. They had injuries. Three of them have now

been discharged. Obviously their injuries were not significant. But

still two are in hospital receiving treatment.

This comes one day after we saw the Metropolitan Police and the London

Mayor saying we will have more armed officers on the streets of London to

protect people and make people feel safe.

That's right. Already it's been announced that there will be a

greater presence of police here on the streets of London. Some of whom

will be armed. They have ramped up the police presence after this

attack. There was a huge demonstration yesterday by police of

these armed officers who are going to be around in a much more visible

form on the streets because of the concern about some kind of terrorist

attack. We know that the threat level remains very high, it is at

severe. A lot of very senior police officials have been talking about

the situation, that it is a question of when, not if and they are on high

alert. Thanks. Could you live without the

Internet or social media? A new survey suggests 15 million people in

the UK have done a digital detox. How would you cope?

The Bank of England's monetary policy committee is expected to

announce an interest rate cut this lunchtime. It will be for the first

time since 2009. It is expected to move by a quarter of a percentage

point to 0.25%. Mark Carney has hinted at the move since the Brexit

referendum result. Today's decision will be a reflection of how the

economy is faring so we sent our reporter out to find out how people

are feeling about their finances. Why do you feel so

confident at the moment? Well, I think that our

new Prime Minister is very confident that she will

get us the best deal. I'm reading headlines

in the newspapers, and basically they are all sort of saying that

people are clamouring to do trade First-time buyers, can't even

save to buy a house. So you're not very confident

at the moment? Has the fact that we voted to leave

Europe, has that changed Well, I haven't seen

any changes at the moment, but I think

it's going to happen. -- moment, but I think

it's a good thing There's quite a lot of jobs

going round at the moment, opening Obviously there are new houses

and things like that coming in. I'm a little unsure

about what's going to happen after Brexit happening

and everything. And my future, because I'm only

young and I need to save up I'm worrying I won't be able

to afford a mortgage. Let's talk with four people who have

different perspectives on whether an interest rate cut would be good or

bad. Anthony Gold, 73, owns two businesses in London. Tony Horne has

an international web development company and is worried about how the

interest rate cut could affect sterling. The de Witt is a financial

planner and a mother of two. A 19-year-old Anna Peters is a

university student with loans that may be helped by an interest rate

cut. Thank you for coming in. Who thinks an interest rate cut is a

good idea? No one. I don't know about the rest of them,

but the cuts they are proposing is not going to have much of an impact,

I feel. You are a student, do you have loans? Firstly I think it might

be OK, for loans, the interest rate will make our loans cheaper. I think

in the short term it's a good thing. Out of interest, do you know how

much cheaper? Not much cheaper. Not sure. It's negligible. Personally I

don't think it's going to make much of a difference. The only people

affected will be those with variable rate mortgages right now. Somebody

with a ?200,000 mortgage will see their interest rate cut by half,

paying 1000 paying 500, that's quite a big difference. What I say to my

clients is that now is a really good time to build up that emergency fund

you haven't been able to do so far. Not a time to go crazy or make major

changes, but maybe a time to really look at your family budget. You are

saying to save, but that's exactly what Mark Carney doesn't want to

hear. He once does to spend that money. I know, but there hasn't

really been an incentive for everyday people to save, interest

rates have been so low. We can't rely on anything we get from our

savings. But it's important to have a emergency buffer for all families,

have that extra cash. Take it that we will not get a return, but we

need it there as a buffer to protect us when we need access to cash.

Anthony, what about you as a businessman? It doesn't make a lot

of difference as a businessman. The big banks are very reluctant to lend

to business. That's the problem, not the interest rate. A quarter of a

percent, they are probably charging ten or 15% anyway. Going down to 14

and a half percent, will it make any difference? But if it increases

confidence in people feel happier, then that's good. My own business is

doing very well because fortunately for me, I deal in dollars and euro

so we bring in much more money. You are laughing at the moment. This is

the thing, there are winners and losers in everything. An interest

rate cut, if you pay 20% for your credit card interest, if it goes

down to 19.75, will it make you spend more? I don't think it will.

My guess is it's a confidence builder and makes you realise

somebody is trying to do something rather than cut the percentage

itself. The buzzword at the moment is stability, after Brexit and the

pound tanking and problems on the stock market, although they have

recovered a little bit, people need stability and confidence. I think

Tony made a valid point earlier. For many people, and interest rate cut

might bring some economic stability but without the political stability

that everyday people need to feel, there will not be much of a change.

We need to feel that the people at the helm know what they are doing.

At the moment many people feel that isn't the case. The government, we

have a new Chancellor of the X to who knows what's going to happen.

Well! -- Chancellor of the Exchequer. She gets along with

Angela Merkel which is nice. We are spending in other markets right now,

like Germany, and also the US next year. For us, one of the major

issues will be the currency exchange rate. For the last few months since

Brexit, it has taken wild swings either way. I've long as politically

we don't know what is happening for certain, and until there are more

announcements, it's difficult to plan ahead. -- as long as. The

argument is that the governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney, would

be criticised if he didn't do anything. That's what worries me.

Confidence is a very delicate flower. If people keep on about doom

and gloom, you can talk yourself into a recession. Equally, if you

are bullish and upbeat, as businessmen should be, it's an

opportunity, it won't be immediate, it might be a couple of years away,

but plan and allow for whatever the deal might be, and it should be an

opportunity because it's not business as usual. If you think

about it, the underlying fundamentals are great. Before

Brexit we were on an upward hill. Just because of Brexit, doesn't mean

the underlying fundamentals will change, but people don't seem to

realise that. Unemployment has come down sharper than I remember for

years. My view is that businesses have to take advantage of this and

not sit back and say, this is bad news, what do I do? You have to look

at your opportunities. We are often the number one story in the US,

Japan, Australia. I have generated business in these countries and they

want to speak to us in the UK. All news is good news, basically. You

just get on with it. As business owners we are quite used to

uncertainty. I think that everyday people this is an uncomfortable

situation to be in. Maybe if we all just realised that it's OK to be

uncertain, we can still plan, still do the best we can for our families

and our family budget. If there is an interest-rate cut, will it make

that much difference for us? It shouldn't stop us doing anything. Do

you worry about your future? You are young, at university with your whole

life ahead of you. But times. Definitely. The interest rate cut is

not very much, but it's worrying about whether the economy will

improve and what condition it will be in when we graduate. -- but

uncertain times. That's the worry for young people coming into the

world. And I want to get into finance! At least you'll know lots

about it by the time you get out. Anthony, you said it would encourage

lending. Presumably that will help people start businesses. That's

exactly what the economy needs, and to help business expand if money is

cheaper and they can get hold of it. If you can get hold of it is the

point. The banks are very clever, they say they are trying to lend to

small businesses and small businesses don't take them up. But

the reason is, they have so many conditions. They want your home as a

surety. That's not a business loan, it's a personal loan. Consequently,

they can say to the Bank of England that they have tried to lend and

businesses are not taking it up. The reason is the conditions they are

prepared to lend on. So you want the political landscape to change and

that would make a huge difference. Yes, the biggest difference the Bank

of England could make would get more Challenger banks working to the

benefit of small businesses. But they sat on by the monopolies held

by the big four. Thank you for coming in. Grateful for having the

conversation. We have been looking back at the riots five years ago

across England that were triggered by the shooting dead by police of

Mark Duggan at Tottenham in London. Earlier I spoke to Marcus, who grew

up with Mark Duggan, and he spoke about the circumstances surrounding

his friend 's death. The day that Mark got shot, no police liaison

came to the family household to report his death. Friday, we didn't

hear anything. No answers as to why he was shot. There was an

announcement made by the family that we would go to the police station on

Saturday to demand answers because nobody had come to the family. We

wanted to find out why he had been shot. Saturday, we went to the

police station. The mother of Mark's kids went inside to find out what

was going on. She was asked to wait about an hour for the Police

Commissioner or somebody to come and speak to her. Six hours later and

officer came out and said that the Commissioner couldn't make it, and

to clear the streets. We were outside the police station, and they

locked the door and left us on the streets. We were out there with our

mothers, Mark's mother was out there, children, family members. We

felt humiliated, disrespected. We just felt... Yeah, like disregarded

as nobody. I went into my own zone. The crowd around didn't expect what

was going to happen next. I walked away from everybody. There was a

police car parked on a side road. So I ended up smashing it up, taking

out my frustration on the car. And I think from that initial act,

everything kind of escalated from there. The official police watchdog

investigated the circumstances surrounding Mark Durkan's death and

cleared the officers involved of any wrongdoing. After that report was

released in 2013, the Assistant Commissioner of the Metropolitan

Police said in a statement... Still to come, we will hear from

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has in Vail what he's calling his blueprint

to rebuild Britain. He will be speaking live in east London. And

could you live without the Internet and social media? A new survey

suggests 15 million people in the UK have done a digital detox. How would

you cope? Dave has got in touch, he says he took a break from social

media for a day and was reported as a missing person. Jules says it's

important for your health and families to take a break. Get in

touch with your experiences. We can get the news with Julian in the BBC

newsroom. A 19-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder

after a woman in her 60s was killed and five people were injured in a

knife attack in Russell Square in central London last night. Police

used a Taser to arrest the man who later received treatment in

hospital. He is now in custody at a south London police station. Two

victims are still in hospital while three others have been discharged.

Mayor of London Sadiq Khan is cutting short his holiday to deal

with the response to the attack. There is speculation the Bank of

England might cut interest rates today for the first time since March

2000 nine. It is anticipated Mark Carney, the governor of the Bank of

England, would reduce interest rates from half a percent to a quarter of

a percent at noon. Last month economists predicted a cut at the

monetary policy committee did not make any. Millions of people in the

UK are taking a digital peacock detox according to Ofcom. People

have taken between a day and a month away from the web. About 60% of

those surveyed consider themselves to be hooked on devices. Jeremy

Corbyn and former Shadow Cabinet Minister Owen Smith will go

head-to-head tonight in a Labour leadership debate, the first of a

series of hustings between the contenders. Mr Corbyn will explain

in a speech how he intends to rebuild and transform Britain. Owen

Smith is expected to say that only he can unite the party. The Olympic

games opening ceremony takes place tomorrow with the Olympic torch

arriving in Rio de Janeiro after a three-week tour of Brazil's cities.

The torch was challenged by hundreds of demonstrated angry at the cost of

hosting the games. Riot police used tear gas and pepper spray to

disperse the crowd. Dramatic footage has emerged of the devastation

caused by a wildfire in Canada earlier this year. The aerial drone

footage provides an up close look at the devastation in Fort McMurray,

Alberta. The blaze forced around 80,000 residents to leave their

homes. The Canada Red Cross says it's raised around ?150 million to

help residents to recover. The world's tallest moving observation

tower opens today in Brighton. The viewing tower, created by the

architects of the London eye, consists of a column with a moving

glass viewing pod that takes visitors to the top of the 137 metre

structure. On a clear day they can see the Isle of Wight, more than 40

miles away. That's the summary of the latest news. Join me on BBC

newsroom live from 11am. Time for some sport. The main headlines

today, Andy Murray says he let it out of bed in his underpants to

learn he would be great Britain's flag bearer in Friday's Olympic

opening ceremony in Rio. He says he's humbled and extremely proud to

carry the flag. Sports climbing is one of five new sports approved for

the next Olympic Games in Tokyo in four years' time. Skateboarding,

surfing, karate, baseball and softball have also been brought in

for 2020. In cricket, England were bowled out for 297 of the first day

of the third test against Pakistan at Edgbaston. Batsman Gary Ballance

says the team are relatively happy ahead of their first chance of a

bowl in around half an hour. World Heavyweight Champion Tyson Fury will

face a UK anti-doping tribunal after he was charged over the alleged

presence of a banned substance, reportedly nandrolone, in tests

taken early in 2013. He denies any wrongdoing. New signing Mousa

Dembele scored an injury time penalty to send Celtic into the

Champions League play-off round, beating Astana 3-2 in Glasgow.

Are you addicted to the Internet, social media and gaming? According

to Ofcom, which oversees the communications industry, well over

half of us are hooked our digital devices. On average, you adults

spend an entire day on the Internet, going online more than 50 times a

day. -- UK adults. A study of 2000 adults and 500

teenagers felt reliance on the Internet is affecting people's

personal and working lives, with many feeling we need to step away

from anything digital and take back our lives. What can be done to curb

the digital addiction? Let's talk to the principal academic and imputing

and head of research into digital addiction at Bournemouth University.

This sounds amazing, what did you do, you went away somewhere? In

April I decided I would book myself into a digital detoxing weekend. We

went to Norfolk for the weekend. We arrived at Norwich station, went

into a car, it wake cottage where there is no electricity, no running

water, and we had to hand in all of our phones. Fabulous, literally a

box going around. Did you feel you couldn't be trusted? You thought,

I'm at home, I will put my phone to the site of the weekend. Absolutely.

In theory it was nice, but I wanted to do it properly. Meet some people

and get to know them on a different level. I will bring Ryan in now. I

had a minor incident with a washing machine and a mobile phone a few

weeks ago and it didn't work. For ten days it didn't work. The first

couple of days I was concerned, I almost e-mailed my friends to tell

them, if you need me, but then it was liberating and I didn't want my

phone back. Addiction is really about the time you spend not using

it at all. Internet and digital devices are almost like a washing

machine, almost like electricity. You need it all the time. What we

care about is dependency. You can imagine somebody who is going to

sleep but thinking about their Facebook profile and how many likes

they get, and activity on Twitter, and so on. It is the dependency that

matters, really. I am a man with two junket, it drives me mad when I see

mums on their phone all the time, not gain attention to their kids.

-- I am a mum with two young kids. In the studies we've done we've seen

people who care about their online identity more than their personal

identity. They develop another character. They start to get a

complex. They care more about their online presence than personal

presence. It could have harmful consequences. Like gamers, gaining

after a couple of days nonstop, and being attached to much to the game,

they forget about health, hygiene, and so on. -- gaming. There was

another example and that is Pokemon Go. They get so immersed into it

that they go to risky places and they do something that is called

impaired decision-making. I was reading yesterday about the Japanese

gymnast who has gone to reopen. He is into Pokemon Go and he spent

thousands of pounds on roaming charges. What happened, was there a

moment when you said I need to put this down? Yeah, I work for a

technology company. We are in the start-up phase. Being online is

important for us. It got to a point in the evenings where I was feeling

anxious about e-mails, feeling I had to react to them and it got to a

point where friends were thinking that I need to do something about

it. I looked into digital detoxing. I found this course. I thought it

would be a good idea of teaching myself to put the phone down in the

evening and enjoy time with friends and things like that. Doctor Ali was

talking about people worrying about their Facebook profile. But you are

talking about what many people feel, which is a work pressure. You go

home from work, you have your phone can you get the e-mails at night and

you feel you need to respond. Yes, it is about knowing what to respond

to. I know in France they are thinking about this. Young

professionals are feeling pressured about being reactive and being the

best in the workplace. -- I know in France they are thinking about

banning this. My company has been on a digital detox. I recommended it

for everyone and they thoroughly enjoyed it. We thought a lot about

contacting each other, learning about what is urgent and what isn't.

Have you gone back to bad habits? Some, little bit, but I've stopped

looking at my phone before going to bed. The nice thing about the

digital detox is we didn't have watches. You didn't know what the

timeous. You didn't reach your phone and scroll for half an hour instead

of getting some good sleep. I wanted to ask that, I know AQ couples who

will sit next to each other in bed scrolling through their phones. -- I

know a view. It is badly your sleep and your relationship as well, isn't

it? -- a few couples. Some people think it is a new lifestyle. What we

care about is a cognitive load. Students are checking Twitter and

Facebook. They say they are doing it in two seconds but it is costing

them mentally and cognitively a lot. It is really disturbing. The digital

media and the e-mail and communications systems these days

are designed to keep you connected. They have not designed it in a way

to help the preoccupation. When you go off grid, or off-line, you know

that others know that you off-line and so you shouldn't have to

respond. -- others know that you are off-line. You don't see this very

often in the current software industry practice. Some people might

think, I might have an issue, maybe I should bring it back a bit. What

would be your tips on gently regulating yourself? There is

self-regulation systems. Specify some goals for yourself in

regulating your life in the first instance. Nobody is addicted to

mobile phones because they like them, they like and what is in them.

And what is in the social network and what is in the games. There are

underlying issues. Those should be solved first. Otherwise a digital

detox isn't going to be effective and it won't last. If people are

addicted to social networks they might have a problem in real life,

they have relation breakdowns, depression, whatever, they try to

compensate by doing it online. The first thing is to look at the

issues, regulate their Way of thinking of digital media. Otherwise

a digital detox white -- will not last. Many comments coming in. Far

better to pick up a phone, write a letter, send a birthday card, talk

face-to-face. It's important to get a break from social media. I took a

break for a week and it was much better. Emily says all of them try

digital detox is, it never lasts more than an hour. Heidi says

digital detox needs social media. I spent most of my time alone, it is

my link to the rest of humanity, it is my lifeline. When he went away on

your digital detox did you suddenly notice things? When I lost my phone

I realise that when I walked places I noticed things, instead of just

checking my phone, I noticed birds singing covered trees, flowers,

without being cliche you are more aware aren't you? The first hour was

difficult, but itching feeling of going to your phone. You see

something lovely and you want to take a photo and put it on

Instagram. Then you realise you cannot share it. But then you

realise it is quite nice, it is something personal to experience

with friends I've just met. There was lots of wildlife around, as

well. We did some life drawing, as well, which is good. You do

appreciate more the experiences when you don't have social media. I was

more present. Thank you both. Thank you for sharing your thoughts

online, as well. Later on we are expecting to hear from Labour leader

Jeremy Corbyn. He's going to be making an announcement in east

London. He is fighting to remain leader of the Labour Party. We were

expecting it around now, but it is running late, so we will bring it to

you just as soon as it happens. A 19-year-old man is being held at a

police station on suspicion of murder after a woman was killed in a

knife attack in central London last night. Five other people were hurt,

two of them are still in hospital. Police say they are focusing on

mental health issues but counterterrorism officers are

involved in the enquiry. We can now hear more from an eyewitness who was

in the area at the time. I was in the hotel room. I heard

some commotion down the street, some voices. I looked out the window. I

saw a black man who was running down the street. As he was running down

the street he was turning to see if the police were coming close. I

could hear the policeman screaming stop, don't move, don't go any

further, just stay where you are. He turned round and continued running.

He wasn't prepared to stop. The next thing I knew they had gone out of my

sight. Then police cars and everything came straight down. I

believe they obtained him here. Was the man who was being chased

carrying anything? Yes, he was carrying a knife in his hand, and he

had blood on his hands. As he turned to look at the police he actually

turned in my direction to where I was at the window and that was to

the left-hand side. But he was continuing to run as he was checking

back to see how far the police were coming. Did you see whether

apprehended him? No, they had gone out of my vision at that point. --

when they apprehended him. I heard the Taser. I heard a little scream

and then it went silent. That is what I opened the window, looked

down, and by this point there were some different police cars etc who

had arrived at the scene. Sadiq Khan, who is cutting short his

holiday and returning to London, has urged residents to remain calm and

they didn't. He said the safety of all Londoners is my number one

priority and that we all have a vital role to play as eyes and ears

for our police and security services and in helping to ensure London is

protected. Our correspondent is outside the Metropolitan Police

headquarters at Scotland Yard. We were speaking earlier to Richard

Galpin. He said there seems to be a great emphasis now on the mental

health issues here rather than a link to terrorism, is that what you

are hearing? Indeed it is. That a suspect is now

in police custody at a south London police station. The Metropolitan

Police's homicide squad is investigating and they are supported

by counterterrorism officers. We understand armed police were on the

scene of the attack last night within five minutes of getting the

call. They tasered the suspect. No gunshots were fired. We know five

people were injured and very sadly a woman in her 60s lost her life.

There was an unusual move, the Met police had a press conference in the

early hours of this morning. The Assistant Commissioner, Mark Rowley,

talked about whether the suspect did have mental health problems. That

was certainly the strongest line of enquiry. He said they were not

ruling out links to terrorism at the time. He was urging Londoners to be

alert and to stay vigilant. He mentioned about the extra armed

police patrols, which were now going to be on the streets. As we heard

yesterday he met Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe and the London Mayor,

Sadiq Khan, and they announced there would be an increased number of

armed officers in the capital from 600 to 2800. As well as an extra 900

armed officers that will be on patrol in the rest of England and

Wales. That would happen over the next couple of years. We are waiting

to hear from the Met police to find out any more information. The main

things they want to ascertain is the motive behind this.

Do we have any more news on the injuries?

We understand a couple of people of those five are still in hospital.

Three have been discharged. No more yet on their injuries. The main

thing at the moment is interviewing the suspect and trying to find out

what was behind the attack, what was going through his mind and whether

mental health has a significant part to play. Thank you for speaking to

us from Scotland Yard. There may not have been an opening ceremony yet

but the Olympic Games are officially underway with the women's football

starting last night, and today is the men's turn. Tomorrow is the main

event with Wimbledon champion Andy Murray flying the flag for Great

Britain, the opening ceremony will be watched by an audience of

billions. # Don't tell the gods

I left the mess. More than seven years

after London was announced as the Olympic venue,

the eyes of the world will once # He said, go dry your eyes

and live your life... Thousands of competitors

are here to take part in Billions of people around the globe

are preparing to tune in to follow In the next two weeks,

we will show all that has made London one of the greatest cities

in the world. For the athletes gathered here

on the eve of this great endeavour, faster, to jump higher,

to be stronger. # But we're dancing with the demons

in our minds. # Don't say a word,

don't make a sound. # I make worms turn

into butterflies. # Wake up and turn

this world around. # He said, I've never

left your side. # When you were lost,

I followed right behind. STEVE CRAM: Mo Farah, for

Great Britain! ANDY CASTLE: It's a golden

triumph for Andy Murray! # There is a truth to sport -

a purity, a drama, an intensity. This is what I've dreamt

of my entire life. In every Olympic sport,

there is all that matters in life. And one day, we will

tell our children and our grandchildren that when our time

came, we did it right. I get goose bumps looking at that.

It takes me right back to London 2012. Before we speak to our

Olympians and Olympic super fan, in the next few minutes we expect

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn to speak in East London, delivering his ten

pledges to rebuild and transform Great Britain. We were expecting in

20 minutes ago but he hasn't appeared as yet. When he does, we'll

cross over to that. We have a three-time Olympic champion here.