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Hello, it's Thursday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

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Our top story - as a teenage girl is grabbed off the street in Oxford

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on her way to school, police hunt for

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The girl was sexually assaulted before raising the alarm.

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school children in the area are warned to stay together in groups.

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Complaints against the police fall by staggering 90% when they wear

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when they wear body cameras, according to new research.

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We'll ask officers why the cameras seem to have such a big impact

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on their behaviour - and the people they deal with.

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Drop the knife now! Down on the floor!

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And the success of Welsh athletes at the Rio games

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is celebrated in a major event in Cardiff this evening.

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We'll speak to some of the medal winners who'll be there.

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Welcome to the programme, we're live each weekday morning until 11.

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After ten we're going to bring you a video diary which an aid

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worker in iraw has been recording for you - as she goes to help

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families who are being freed from living under Islamic State

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I really would urge you to watch that just after 10; use the hashtag

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Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged

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If you're a police officer, I would love your experiences

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of working with body cameras, what difference have

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Do get in touch and we'll talk to you this morning.

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Police in Oxford are appealing for witnesses after a teenage girl

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was abducted while walking to school and sexually assaulted.

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snatched from a busy street by two white men in a silver car.

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She was found at midday yesterday knocking on doors

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of nearby houses and is now

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Let's talk to our reporter Brennan Nicholls who's in Oxford for us.

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This happened not far from where you are, what do we know? 8:25am

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yesterday on the junction of Banbury Road, it's a medieval city on the

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River Thames so there are crossings over the river, major routes into

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the city, the Banbury Road is one of those. It's extremely busy every

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hour of every day as is the next road at the junction and there are

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several schools in the area, so to keep time when students were walking

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to school this girl, said the police, was snatched from the street

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by two man in a silver vehicle at 830. She was found around midday one

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mile away at a housing estate, knocking on doors. Please describe

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it as a serious and shocking case. They say that they are putting extra

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police presence in the area to gather information and alleviate

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concerns. -- police describe it as a serious case. Parents and pupils

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will be worried. Really busy, broad daylight, the police must be hoping

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somebody saw these men. They hope so, they say the investigation is

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ongoing, the girl is dealing with specially trained officers. The

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recommendation to pupils and parents today is not to walk to school

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alone. They must go with other friends bought with their parents.

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That's pretty stark, something I haven't heard from the Thames Valley

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Police, this is not the type of story of dealt with in my 20 years

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reporting. It is unusual, unprecedented, worrying for all

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parents. The police say they are committing as much as possible to

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read. At the moment that girl is getting specialist care from

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officers trained to deal with this kind of situation. If anyone saw

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anything at 8:25am yesterday please get in contact with Thames Valley

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Police. Thank you. We hope to speak to a representative of Thames Valley

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Police this morning. Ben Brown is in the BBC

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Newsroom with a summary The inquiry into child sexual abuse

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in England and Wales has been thrown into fresh chaos with the suspension

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of its most senior lawyer. A spokeswoman said officials had

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recently become very concerned about aspects of Ben

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Emmerson's leadership. Our home affairs correspondent,

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Tom Symonds, reports. Ben Emmerson QC has plenty

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of experience of public inquiries. His role in this one was to include

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questioning witnesses at hearings But now the inquiry has published

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the damaging statement... It has become very concerned

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about the leadership of his team. Mr Emmerson has refused to comment,

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beyond claiming that he learnt about his suspension

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from media reports. The BBC has been told more than one

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complaint has been made against him. Emmerson has been a central figure

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of what has become an enquiry Last month, Lowell Goddard became

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the third chair to resign. Now Professor Alexis Jay,

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the academic who revealed child sexual exploitation in Rotherham,

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is in charge, but the suspension of her senior lawyer means the sense

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of crisis has not gone away. The Italian Prime Minister,

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Matteo Renzi, has told the BBC it will be impossible for Brexit

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negotiations to result in a deal that gives British people more

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rights than others outside Mr Renzi said he thought

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that the referendum result was a bad decision,

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but he was ready to work with Theresa May to ensure the EU

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and Britain remained "best friends". Complaints against the police have

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fallen up to 90% in forces A study involving 2,000 officers

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in England, Northern Ireland and the United States found

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that the cameras had a big impact on the behaviour of officers,

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and the people they deal with. Just a switch at the side,

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and obviously it clicks quite Wherever the officers

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go, their cameras go, Today, the two policemen are sent

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to Cambridge Magistrates Court. A man has been sentenced for theft,

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but the officers need to question him about another offence,

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so they bring him in. The use of body-worn cameras

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has become as routine as driving a police car,

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and now there is evidence that these devices are having a profound

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impact on the culture and conduct of officers

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and the public. Cambridge University looked

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at seven areas where police Complaints from the public dropped

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93%, compared to the year before, even when officers didn't

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have cameras attached. The camera has an effect

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on the behaviour of officers and people they interact with,

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and it seems that it's contagious, because not only did the complaints

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go down for the officers that wore the cameras,

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it also went down for the officers A body-worn camera in volatile

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situations records clearly what's happened, and can

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provide crucial evidence. Barnsley football club has

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suspended assistant manager Tommy Wright after he was named

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in a Daily Telegraph investigation Mr Wright has been filmed apparently

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being given an envelope of money in return for allegedly

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helping to persuade Barnsley to sign The Championship club says he has

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been suspended "pending an internal investigation

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into these allegations". Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe is to retire

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after five years as the Commissioner He'll remain in his

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post until February, when a successor will be appointed

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by the Home Secretary His time as head of the Met has

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included leading the response to the London riots and policing

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during the London Olympics. A new development in the tax credit

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story we've been following, the BBC now understands that 150 temporary

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staff at the Belfast office of concentrates will be let go

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tomorrow. They say the workers were due to finish soon and recruited on

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a short term basis. The move is related to the decision by HMRC not

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to renew a contract with the company. Commonly prescribed

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painkillers are released to the Mac linked to an increase in heart

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problems. Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs given to

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almost 10 million people were analysed but UK experts say that

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because most people in the study are older the findings have little

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relevance for most people under 65. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge

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have stopped off in the Yukon as they toured Canada, they had a

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lesson in local history and joint elders at an indigenous language

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event for young children, listening to songs and traditional

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storytelling. That's a summary of the latest news. More from me at

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930. Thank you. We will be talking about whether all police officers

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should be is it with one body comes. If you are a police officer and you

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have used one we would be very interested to hear about your

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experiences. Now the sports News. John Watson is in Salford. Let's

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start with more allegations of corruption in football. More

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allegations coming out of the Daily Telegraph newspaper, this time

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involving QPR manager Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink, who has been pictured

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and filmed negotiating a ?55,000 fee to act as a sports ambassador,

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essentially, for sports company which then saw them go on and

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proposed to him the sale of players to his club. Queens Park Rangers

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have said they would investigate this fully. As we heard in the news,

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Tommy Wright, Barnsley assistant manager, is alleged to have accepted

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a bunch of ?5,000 to assist in the buying and selling players. They

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both deny wrongdoing, it's a sorry state of affairs, what three days in

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football, it started with those allegations against the now former

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England manager Sam Allardyce and also the Daily Telegraph say they

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have the details of eight Premier League and former Premier League

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managers who accepted bounds. It leaves the FA in a difficult

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position to try to source the root of this corrupt behaviour, the

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details of which, of course we know at this stage, they are having to

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find a new England manager to replace Sam Allardyce. Interesting

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that one of the names in the running, Eddie Howe, the Bournemouth

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manager, has said that while he is committed to Bournemouth he feels

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the England job is one of the biggest jobs in world football, he

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called it the ultimate job so it would seem he is potentially putting

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himself in the frame for that. In the Champions League a lot of goals

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from British sides. Goals galore. We'll start with the standout game

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last night, Celtic against Manchester City, a six goal thriller

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which finished 3-3, Celtic took the lead through Mousa Dembele, twice

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Celtic took the lead but were pegged back. This was his second, which put

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them ahead, 3-2 and then City equalised, Nolito equalising

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disappointing for the Celtic fans, Pep Guardiola is on an amazing run,

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ten matches with his winning run and now it was a draw. Theo Walcott

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scored for Arsenal, they beat Basle 2-0 last night, he also had a good

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start to the season. They had a draw in their opening group game so four

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points on the board for Arsenal and also for Manchester City who got on

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opening day win in the Champions League and then to last night. The

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Ryder Cup starts tomorrow and already controversy. He would never

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need much more motivation to get yourself worked up for the Ryder

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Cup, such a fantastic tournament between the United States and team

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Europe but some incendiary comments have come from Peter Willett, the

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brother of Danny Willett. He called the American Ryder Cup fans a bunch

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of imbecile 's. This was in a story that he wrote for a golfing

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magazine. This was how he described them, as pudgy basement dwelling

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irritants and obnoxious dads with shiny teeth, Lego man hair,

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medicated ex-wives and resentful children! It was meant to be tongue

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in cheek but I suppose with any joke it goes a bit too far. Danny Willett

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has distanced himself from those comments and has apologised

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wholeheartedly to Davis Love III, the American captain. Not the sort

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of comments that you want to be associated with, and certainly

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there's incendiary comments will no doubt fire up the American team even

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more so it will be very interesting to see what happens when play starts

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tomorrow! Thank you, John. The figures seem to speak of themselves,

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when police were body one camera is 90% of complaints of abuse fall.

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This comes a study involving 2000 officers in England, Northern

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Ireland and the United States. Let's speak to Rozske home affairs

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correspondent, Danny Shaw. Let's talk about this research. This was

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the biggest study of its kind conducted by the University of

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Cambridge. They monitored complaints about 2000 officers over the course

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of one year and they completed almost 1.5 million hours of shift

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work. So it's a big study. What they found across the board, here and in

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America was that complaints went down, 113 complaints in those 12

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months compared to more than 1500 in the previous year, that's a fall of

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93%. One of the interesting points was that there is a control group of

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officers who did not have body one Camara is attached but complaints

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also fell amongst those officers. The reason, say researchers, is what

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they term contained just accountability. So the new cultures

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and practices of policing are becoming embedded across the force,

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not just with those officers wearing cameras.

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Why did the complaints go down? Police know their behaviour is being

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recorded every step of the way so there is some kind of subconscious

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decision to act more professionally. That perhaps is having the effect of

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cooling down potentially volatile encounters in the same regard as the

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public are warned the cameras are switched on, so they know that

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anything they do could be used in evidence against them. So it's a

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complex interaction that I think both the public and the police are

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modifying their behaviour. Talk us through a couple of practical

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examples of how they work? Body worn cameras are a familiar piece of kit

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across the UK. They have been around for ten years but more and more

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officers now have them. We have footage from the West Midlands

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showing an incident in which press were called to reports -- police

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were called to reports of a stabbing. You can hear the sights

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and sounds from this particular incident in the West Midlands and it

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can obviously help officers when they are supposed to give an

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account, they can say, here is the footage, here is exactly what

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happened. Here is the clip. Officer with a Taser! Drop the knife

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now! Put the knife down on the floor! Put it down! Get out! Get

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down on the floor! Put your arms out where I can see them. Do it now!

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That was one clip from West Midlands police. What officers are telling us

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is that they're most useful in cases of domestic violence. When they go

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to an incident and record what's happened, perhaps a very upset

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victim or a perhaps who perhaps has been injured and that evidence can

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then be used in court even in cases where the victim, the next day

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retracts her evidence or says they don't want to cooperate with police,

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and there have been a number of successful convictions. Here is an

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example of the body worn footage again from West Midlands police in a

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domestic violence case. I just want him to leave my home.

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Calm yourself down. Really upsetting but can be crucial

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evidence. Yes, very crucial evidence and is really a game-changer in some

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domestic violence cases. I want to ask you about Searle

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Bernard Hogan-Howe, the country's top police officer and an anonesment

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-- and an announcement that he's retiring. He has had a controversial

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period in charge? The Met lost Sir Stevenson, there was talk about

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divisions and splits and leaks, too cosy a relationship with the press

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and Sir Bernard had to steady the ship. Sir Bernard's ran a tight ship

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having to oversee cuts. There have been controversies, particularly in

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his relations with the press, with the Plebgate affair, but south-east

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been seen to be in command of the force in a way that perhaps some of

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the previous incumbents of that role haven't been. The surprise is the

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announcement because we were told his contract, which was running out

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in autumn, would be extended to next autumn. So going a few months ahead

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of the start of that contract is a surprise. I wonder if there had been

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discussions with Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, and it's become

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apparent that the Mayor would want a new person in charge next year and

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he's decided to go early because of that. I don't know if that is the

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case, but that is a suspicion. Let me introduce you to Che Donald

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from the Police Federation Benjamin Read,

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his company designs and supplies cameras to 21 police

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forces in the UK. a solicitor who works

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on police misconduct cases. And in our Leeds Studio,

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we have Chief Inspector Ian Williams You've brought some

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cameras with you, can Pull the switch down, you can hear a

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beep so when an officer wants to record, they get audio confirm

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confirmation they are recording because sometimes they won't be able

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to check. The screen is displaying the footage in real time so the

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person being recorded can see themselves. We are just obviously

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recording our camera at the moment and Matt who is behind it. Sure.

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This has really a great impact on the behaviour of the person being

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recorded. Not only are they aware they are being filmed but there is a

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visible demonstration, they can actually see themselves on camera.

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You mean the person being recorded can see themselves so that has an

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impact on them? . Yes. How do you access what is being recorded? At

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the end of the shift, an officer will come back and dock the camera

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in a docking station, our software will then automatically pull that

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footage off the camera into a secure software which we provide, it's

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automatically categorised, everything is password and

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user-level protected and there the officer is able to search back all

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the footage from the cameras they have been using. They are able to

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look at the footage, edit it, share it with whatever needs to see it. ?

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Edit it? So if there is a 20-minute clip so they need three minutes of

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it, they are able to cut out the three minutes to send to the courts

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perhaps to be viewed by a jury. But if the prosecution wanted the whole

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20 minutes they could have that? Exactly, yes. The original file is

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never altered, it's a new file that's created. OK, so you are

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wearing one which clips on to your shirt. I am. If it was a police

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officer it would be one of these? That's right. Why does that keep

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beeping? I just keep turning it on and now it's recording. Depending on

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the mounting method, most will not use a clip, they'll use this which

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is a clip stud. It's actually how they secure the radio and all sorts

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of bits of kit on. It's the most secure way of mounting and it will

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click in like that. It's very difficult to take off so it's a good

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mounting solution. Let's bring in the police officer, Chief Inspector

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Ian Williams from West Yorkshire Police. Welcome to the programme.

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What do you think of the body cameras? Good morning. Yes, they're

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excellent. We have rolled out 2,000 of them in West Yorkshire, we are in

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the process of doing that. We did that on the back of the study which

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we were part of. The learning we got from that wasn't just about reduced

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complaints, there were all sorts of benefits that we really need to

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emphasise, such as the reduction in time spent at court, the fact that

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vulnerable victims no longer need to go in certain cases. The increased

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detection rate. Complaints is a small part of it and that's not the

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driving force for why we have done it, it's more about accountability

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and really sort of supporting victims, that's the driving force

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behind it for West Yorkshire Police. Sure but it's had a modifying effect

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on police officer's behaviour. What do you think about that - clearly a

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good thing - but what do you say about the fact that the cameras are

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having this impact? I'm sure it does have an impact on what they are

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thinking when they're there, but at the end of the day police officers

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are professional people. I draw your attention to some recent examples.

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We had a complaint made to the police recently where the officers

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were wearing body-worn footage and the allegation was in relation to

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the way that this lady had been treated and damage caused and, the

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footage was looked at early on in the investigation, and it was found

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to be completely at odds with what the complainant had said. She was

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phoned back and told this and she withdrew the complaint, so it's not

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just about the behaviour of officers but suspects as well that are being

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dealt with because they'll change their behaviour when they know they

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are on camera. It's about the reduced complaints because people

:24:19.:24:22.

won't make malicious complaints any more which we get a lot of. It's

:24:23.:24:26.

about early resolution of people that make genuine complaints too

:24:27.:24:29.

because it's absolutely right that that shouldn't be dragged out and

:24:30.:24:33.

take any longer than it needs to. We can get that resolution quickly with

:24:34.:24:39.

body Armour. Shay McDonald, for your members and officers out and about

:24:40.:24:42.

doing their job wearing these, are there any disadvantages? No, I don't

:24:43.:24:53.

think so. When body worn cameras were first introduced, there was a

:24:54.:24:58.

bit of scepticism. Officers saw the benefits that the cameras provided.

:24:59.:25:03.

It changed that mindset. From the federation point of view, we'd

:25:04.:25:09.

recommend that every police officer that's front line has access at

:25:10.:25:15.

least to body worn video. It's a prerequisite that if you have it,

:25:16.:25:19.

you are equipped with it. Does the individual officer have

:25:20.:25:23.

control over when she or he switches the camera on? He or she does. So it

:25:24.:25:35.

depends entirely on the way that the situations are recorded upon when

:25:36.:25:38.

that officer switches on the camera itself. In the study that was

:25:39.:25:42.

produced, the cameras were on all the time.

:25:43.:25:48.

Most definitely switched on before they arrived. The study also went on

:25:49.:25:53.

to show that if it was switched on half way through, it changed the

:25:54.:25:59.

playing field somewhat, so although it's fantastic and the numbers are

:26:00.:26:03.

great, it's not overall the panacea to resolving police complaints. I

:26:04.:26:06.

think the study makes reference to that as well. Lawrence Barker, your

:26:07.:26:15.

firm fights the cases of misconduct. What have you heard about the use of

:26:16.:26:21.

body cameras? We are cautiously positive about their introduction

:26:22.:26:23.

generally. Chief Inspector Williams picked up on a single case where a

:26:24.:26:27.

complaint may not have been warranted but there are thousands of

:26:28.:26:32.

justified complaints each year. Anything that increases police

:26:33.:26:34.

accountability is going to be a positive thing. We have seen

:26:35.:26:39.

concerns expressed over the operation of the devices. Meaning

:26:40.:26:45.

when they are switched on? Yes and we had a case for instance where the

:26:46.:26:51.

allegation by a client is that the police engaged in a situation,

:26:52.:26:55.

turned the camera on and there was an initial period where they dealt

:26:56.:26:58.

with each other and it was fine. The camera was then turned off and there

:26:59.:27:02.

is an alleged assault and the camera is turned back on again. And so all

:27:03.:27:07.

the time officers have control over whether the camera is recording or

:27:08.:27:10.

not, that is going to be open to that sorted of abuse. Do you accept

:27:11.:27:14.

that? Yes, without a doubt. It's user-operated. All the time the user

:27:15.:27:19.

has control of it when switchling the camera on or off, what is

:27:20.:27:24.

recorded is down to the user. -- switching. The IPCC who investigate

:27:25.:27:31.

offences against police showed an increase in police complaints year

:27:32.:27:34.

on year for the last three years. What's also interesting to note is

:27:35.:27:40.

that although 37,000 complaints were recorded, only 31,000 were

:27:41.:27:45.

investigated. Of those 31,000 that were investigated, 14% were shown to

:27:46.:27:49.

be upheld. So we also have to be mindful that a lot of times police

:27:50.:27:56.

officers in a front-facing role do face complainants. There are serious

:27:57.:28:02.

concerns over the way in which the police investigate complaints

:28:03.:28:06.

leading to such low numbers of complaints being upheld. But that is

:28:07.:28:10.

a separate argument. Again that was the IPCC. Is there any way around

:28:11.:28:15.

the example that you gave dealing with a client where allegedly an

:28:16.:28:18.

officer recorded the first bit, switched it off, there is an alleged

:28:19.:28:22.

assault on the individual and a member of public and then after

:28:23.:28:27.

that, the cameras go back on. Any procedures you could introduce that

:28:28.:28:31.

would get around that or not? We'd like to think that in such an

:28:32.:28:34.

incident there would have been two officers. Were there two? I don't

:28:35.:28:39.

know, I don't believe so. If there were two officers, they should

:28:40.:28:42.

have... But if there's just one officer? Then the officer is going

:28:43.:28:45.

to have to explain their own actions. Any use of force undertaken

:28:46.:28:50.

by a police officer has to revert back to the justification behind

:28:51.:28:56.

that. I would say that if you have entered into an incident, why not

:28:57.:29:00.

leave the camera running all the way through because it would only leave

:29:01.:29:02.

you with difficult questions to answer later. It also comes back

:29:03.:29:07.

down to policies and Police Departments. It's important there is

:29:08.:29:10.

a robust policy in place. We like to help our clients get those in place.

:29:11.:29:17.

Yes, so education as well of the officers, if they had a good clear

:29:18.:29:21.

policy as to when they should start recording and stop, if they are

:29:22.:29:26.

educated correctly, hopefully problems like that can be avoided.

:29:27.:29:30.

Chief Inspector Williams, there is a serious issue about recording at

:29:31.:29:35.

events like protests and keeping footage of people without their

:29:36.:29:38.

knowledge isn't there? There are concerns about that.

:29:39.:29:42.

Obviously this whole thing that you have been discussing involves the

:29:43.:29:45.

Human Rights Act. We are very kaifshl about how we train that and

:29:46.:29:51.

we give comprehensive training in relation to all of that -- careful.

:29:52.:29:57.

You are right about that and people do have the right to information

:29:58.:30:02.

access requests to find out if they've been captured on any

:30:03.:30:06.

footage. We do have imaging departments that can blank out faces

:30:07.:30:09.

of people who're not involved in an incident, so if we have kept that

:30:10.:30:14.

footage for an evidential reason, anything that we display in a court

:30:15.:30:18.

or anywhere else will have all the faces blanked out and it will only

:30:19.:30:22.

concentrate on the subject matter, so all these things are in our

:30:23.:30:25.

policy and we have discussed those at length with the IPCC, the College

:30:26.:30:32.

of Policing, various other bodies and community groups. We have done

:30:33.:30:36.

quite a lot of work on that to make sure we are taking everyone's views

:30:37.:30:40.

into account. How much is one of these cameras? ?545, comes with the

:30:41.:30:46.

licence to use the software, that's the whole package. Body-worn video

:30:47.:30:52.

is not just about the camera. Is that cost effective, Che? It depends

:30:53.:30:57.

on how much budgets are available to each individual forces. They have

:30:58.:31:02.

been subjected to austerity measures and everyone's tightening their

:31:03.:31:08.

belts. Some forces have ringfenced money for the introduction of the

:31:09.:31:11.

cameras. But the camera itself is only part of the solution. The rest

:31:12.:31:14.

is the back office system which is how you store the data, how you

:31:15.:31:19.

access to data and a big problem with the UK policing is that IT

:31:20.:31:24.

infrastructure isn't as good as it should be to be dealing with such

:31:25.:31:26.

modern technology. OK. Thank you very much all of you.

:31:27.:31:33.

This texter says, I'm a supervisor managing civil enforcement officers

:31:34.:31:37.

for a local authority. We started using body cameras two years ago. We

:31:38.:31:42.

have seen a reduction in assaults of over 50%. We also use the cameras

:31:43.:31:47.

for evidence-gathering in disabled badge misuse cases and fraud. Our

:31:48.:31:52.

cameras are always seen, never covert. Julie says recording by the

:31:53.:31:57.

policely make the police behave and the people they are dealing with.

:31:58.:32:01.

Zoe, why doesn't every force have body cameras and Paul says, as we

:32:02.:32:05.

have seen in the States, they can be turned off and on and manipulated to

:32:06.:32:08.

suit the needs of police officers sometimes. Who want to cover things

:32:09.:32:13.

up. Still to come later in the

:32:14.:32:18.

programme. Scientists warn that popular

:32:19.:32:21.

painkillers such as ibuprofen are linked to an increased risk

:32:22.:32:23.

of heart failure. And after their success in Rio,

:32:24.:32:25.

Welsh athletes will be feted with a massive carnival party

:32:26.:32:28.

in Cardiff later, we'll be speaking Here's Ben in the BBC Newsroom

:32:29.:32:31.

with a summary of today's news. Police in Oxford are appealing

:32:32.:32:37.

for witnesses after a teenage girl was abducted while walking to school

:32:38.:32:42.

and sexually assaulted. Detectives say the girl

:32:43.:32:45.

was wearing school uniform and was snatched from a busy

:32:46.:32:46.

street by two white She was found at midday knocking

:32:47.:32:49.

on doors of nearby houses and is now The inquiry into child sexual abuse

:32:50.:32:53.

in England and Wales has been thrown into fresh chaos with the suspension

:32:54.:33:03.

of its most senior lawyer. A spokeswoman said officials had

:33:04.:33:07.

recently become very concerned about aspects of Ben

:33:08.:33:09.

Emmerson's leadership. The inquiry was set up

:33:10.:33:11.

more than two years ago, but has been hit by delays

:33:12.:33:15.

and the resignation The Italian Prime Minister,

:33:16.:33:18.

Matteo Renzi, has told the BBC it will be impossible for Brexit

:33:19.:33:26.

negotiations to result in a deal that gives British people more

:33:27.:33:31.

rights than others outside Mr Renzi said he thought

:33:32.:33:35.

that the referendum result was a bad decision,

:33:36.:33:38.

but he was ready to work with Theresa May to ensure the EU

:33:39.:33:41.

and Britain remained "best Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe is to retire

:33:42.:33:43.

after five years as the Commissioner He'll remain in post until February,

:33:44.:33:48.

when a successor will be appointed by the Home Secretary and London

:33:49.:33:54.

Mayor. His time as head of the Met includes

:33:55.:33:56.

leading the response to the London riots and policing

:33:57.:33:59.

during the London Olympics. Commonly prescribed painkillers

:34:00.:34:06.

including ibuprofen are linked to an increased risk

:34:07.:34:08.

of heart failure, A group of European researchers

:34:09.:34:10.

analysed the effects of non-steroid anti-inflammatory drugs given

:34:11.:34:18.

to nearly 10 million people. However, UK experts say

:34:19.:34:23.

that because most people in the study were older,

:34:24.:34:26.

the findings have very little That's a summary of the latest BBC

:34:27.:34:28.

News, more at 10.00 . Here's some sport now

:34:29.:34:42.

with John Watson. Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink is the

:34:43.:34:57.

latest to be Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink is the latest to have allegedly

:34:58.:35:04.

accepted financial incentives. Last night between Celtic and Manchester

:35:05.:35:10.

City in the Champions League they do 3-3. Pep Guardiola has an unbeaten

:35:11.:35:17.

record in 11 games, his best starting record in his career.

:35:18.:35:26.

Arsenal won their match, 2-0, England's record Test wicket taker

:35:27.:35:32.

James Anderson is that of the forthcoming tour with the show

:35:33.:35:37.

injury and Durham's Mark Wood is also out with the recurring ankle

:35:38.:35:40.

problem. Jake Ball has been called up as cover to the test squad.

:35:41.:35:46.

European Ryder Cup rookie Danny Willett has apologised for comments

:35:47.:35:50.

made by his brother describing Americans as a braying mob of

:35:51.:35:55.

imbecile 's and pudgy basement dwelling irritants. Just some of the

:35:56.:35:58.

remarks he made in a golfing article he wrote, with the Ryder Cup about

:35:59.:36:04.

to start 24 hours away, I think you can expect to see those pudgy fans

:36:05.:36:09.

getting a little riled when that first ball is hit tomorrow! We will!

:36:10.:36:15.

Thank you. There's been a new development in an exclusive story

:36:16.:36:18.

that we brought you a couple of weeks ago, the tax credit chaos

:36:19.:36:28.

caused by the US firm Banbury Road and HMRC. Chris is in Belfast. Over

:36:29.:36:33.

the last few weeks you've heard from benefit claimants who said, from

:36:34.:36:38.

Concentrix, employed by the government to try to cut down on

:36:39.:36:43.

benefit fraud in the system, benefit payments had wrongly been cut to

:36:44.:36:47.

those claimants. Another development today. After the failings

:36:48.:36:52.

highlighted, HM Revenue and Customs decided that Banbury Road's

:36:53.:36:56.

contract, which was due to run until May next year would not be extended

:36:57.:37:02.

beyond that. Today it has emerged that 150 temporary staff at the

:37:03.:37:05.

Banbury Road offices in Belfast would lose their jobs tomorrow. The

:37:06.:37:10.

company now say the staff were recruited on a short-term basis and

:37:11.:37:22.

had been due to finish in August, last month, the firm says they are

:37:23.:37:25.

working to minimise any impact on those who are going to lose their

:37:26.:37:27.

jobs. Nonetheless the Northern Ireland Finance Minister says he is

:37:28.:37:29.

concerned about this and he will contact the Treasury. That's the

:37:30.:37:31.

latest development. Banbury Road have said that all the way through

:37:32.:37:34.

their staff have followed guidelines laid down by HM Revenue and Customs.

:37:35.:37:39.

Chris Page, from Belfast, thank you. The husband of a British-Iranian

:37:40.:37:44.

woman jailed in Iran after visiting her parents

:37:45.:37:46.

there on holiday is pleading Nazanin Ratcliffe was arrested

:37:47.:37:48.

on issues of national security, separated from her two-year

:37:49.:37:54.

old daughter and sentenced to five years in prison

:37:55.:37:57.

after a secret trial. Now her husband Richard has turned

:37:58.:37:58.

to the human rights organisation Let's talk to Nazanin's husband

:37:59.:38:01.

Richard and Kathy Voss You still don't know, I think, what

:38:02.:38:17.

your wife has been charged with. That's correct. She had a trial in

:38:18.:38:22.

August. Sentencing was announced to because cleared. A sentence of five

:38:23.:38:28.

years but on secrets charges. We've applied for an appeal that it is

:38:29.:38:32.

secret as to which court will do the appeals are still no clue. She will

:38:33.:38:38.

be able to appeal? As far as we know, we have filed for an appeal,

:38:39.:38:43.

we don't know which court will do it.

:38:44.:38:53.

The last time you spoke to her? She was sentenced on Tuesday, she called

:38:54.:38:57.

me and clarified she had been given five years, that was two weeks ago,

:38:58.:39:00.

that was the third call. How was she? Previously she has been sad and

:39:01.:39:03.

broken, this time she was angry. I took it as a good sign. She says

:39:04.:39:07.

that this has been going on for months, what are you doing, the

:39:08.:39:12.

government has been negotiating and Theresa May has raised this with the

:39:13.:39:15.

President more than a month ago, I am held every day, it is horrendous,

:39:16.:39:20.

it is more than one fifth of my daughter's life that I have been

:39:21.:39:25.

away, do you understand what that is like? Your little girl is with her

:39:26.:39:33.

in Iran, how is she? She is too young to understand. She cannot come

:39:34.:39:36.

back, they have a passport although we have asked for it. Yesterday her

:39:37.:39:42.

mother called so she was happy and was saying that she had spoken to

:39:43.:39:46.

her memory. She was dancing and jumping off the sofa. -- she'd

:39:47.:39:54.

spoken to her mummy. You seem calm. I go through phases and when bad

:39:55.:39:58.

news happens I fight it for a couple of days and then feed it afterwards.

:39:59.:40:04.

At the moment we are in the face of thinking, whatever next. Kathy Voss

:40:05.:40:16.

from Amnesty, is there a chance of a deal because recently there was a

:40:17.:40:20.

woman accused of doubling in feminism and she was released. She

:40:21.:40:25.

was arrested in June, she was released on Monday on humanitarian

:40:26.:40:29.

grounds because she was extremely sick and had actually been released

:40:30.:40:33.

into a hospital. The Canadians managed to bring about her release

:40:34.:40:39.

on Monday. We at Amnesty have been in contact with Richard for months,

:40:40.:40:43.

working on the campaign and getting our activists to write letters.

:40:44.:40:48.

Shortly after Nazanin was arrested we wrote to Boris Johnson asking him

:40:49.:40:53.

to meet with the family and with Nazanin and make a public statement

:40:54.:40:56.

calling for her release although we haven't had it yet. Have you had a

:40:57.:41:02.

response from Mr Johnson's office? Liverpool we haven't. We know that

:41:03.:41:07.

he received our request. We still waiting. What could he do, call

:41:08.:41:11.

publicly for Iran to release your wife? Liverpool the government has

:41:12.:41:18.

raised this case at the highest levels, we know, Theresa May spoke

:41:19.:41:21.

to the president about it and David Cameron did before her, they have

:41:22.:41:24.

said they know about the case and are working on it although there is

:41:25.:41:29.

no public stance on calling for her release so until they do that we

:41:30.:41:34.

don't know if they are making this the priority that they say they are.

:41:35.:41:39.

Right. Is your thinking that your wife is being held on political

:41:40.:41:46.

grounds? Honestly, yes. She was sentenced the day after the British

:41:47.:41:52.

Embassy was attacked. I understand that there is a part of a round that

:41:53.:41:55.

wants to make friends and apart from that wants to stop that. It is the

:41:56.:41:59.

part that wants to stop that that is using her as a bargaining chip.

:42:00.:42:04.

There's a reason why she was taken while relations were improving,

:42:05.:42:09.

taking a mother and baby is about as provocative as possible. Why have

:42:10.:42:17.

secrets charges? If it is to say, this is a political situation, we

:42:18.:42:20.

can solve it through political means, I think that is exactly what

:42:21.:42:24.

has happened. The statement from the Foreign Office is this.

:42:25.:42:26.

"We are deeply concerned by reports that Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe has been

:42:27.:42:29.

sentenced without confirmation of the charges made against her.

:42:30.:42:31.

The Prime Minister and Foreign Secretary have both raised her case

:42:32.:42:34.

with their counterparts in Iran and will continue to do so.

:42:35.:42:37.

Minister for the Middle East,

:42:38.:42:45.

Tobias Ellwood, has met the family to reassure them

:42:46.:42:47.

that we will continue to do all we can.

:42:48.:42:50.

That is all true. We don't know what that is. We have seen that

:42:51.:42:57.

governments that intervene can secure releases, we did see some

:42:58.:43:01.

prisoners released from around a couple of years ago after pressure

:43:02.:43:05.

on the government so we can see that this happens. We want to see the

:43:06.:43:08.

government doing absolutely everything they can to make sure

:43:09.:43:12.

that she is released. Thank you, both of you.

:43:13.:43:20.

Later, after their success in Rio, Welsh athletes will be feted

:43:21.:43:22.

with a massive carnival party in Cardiff later -

:43:23.:43:25.

we'll be speaking to four of the medallists going.

:43:26.:43:29.

Now, if you take the painkiller ibuprofen, you increase the risk

:43:30.:43:31.

of going into hospital with a heart problem by a fifth.

:43:32.:43:34.

A huge study that looked at the use of the drug by nearly 10 million

:43:35.:43:38.

people found that in the fortnight after taking the painkiller,

:43:39.:43:53.

those with an average age of 77 who took it were 19% more likely

:43:54.:43:56.

to be admitted to hospital with a heart

:43:57.:43:58.

If taken regularly this painkiller can cause heart attack or a truck.

:43:59.:44:06.

Heart failure is the leading cause of hospital admissions for those

:44:07.:44:08.

over 65. With me is Helen Williams,

:44:09.:44:10.

she's a Consultant Pharmacist for Cardiovascular Disease with

:44:11.:44:12.

the Royal Pharmaceutical Society. So what should people watching do if

:44:13.:44:19.

they take this painkiller regularly? The headlines are a bit alarming

:44:20.:44:26.

today. Are they accurate? Accurate in relation to this specific study.

:44:27.:44:30.

The patients were on average aged 77. So young patients buying

:44:31.:44:42.

ibuprofen for a sports injury or for back pain, this isn't a problem for

:44:43.:44:46.

them. We need to reassure them. But for older patients we do need to be

:44:47.:44:52.

cautious. Meaning what? Most older patients are probably not buying the

:44:53.:44:57.

ibuprofen they are taking for things like arthritis, they are getting it

:44:58.:45:01.

from prescription from the GP who will help them to calculate the

:45:02.:45:05.

benefits and the risks of the drug and give them monitoring, we know

:45:06.:45:09.

these things can affect the kidneys so they need regular kidney

:45:10.:45:11.

monitoring when they take these things routinely for this sort of

:45:12.:45:18.

pain. Should we be able to buy this stuff over-the-counter? As I said,

:45:19.:45:24.

for younger patients aged 20, 30, 40, taking these drugs for short

:45:25.:45:34.

courses to treat sharp pain, they are not at risk in this way. It's

:45:35.:45:37.

the older patients who tend to be frailer and have other diseases that

:45:38.:45:40.

put them at risk of problems like hypertension or diabetes and maybe

:45:41.:45:42.

already their kidneys are showing strain. They need to be monitored by

:45:43.:45:46.

a GP and properly supported if they are undergoing this sort of therapy.

:45:47.:45:52.

Broadly speaking, do we use these painkillers to regularly? You can

:45:53.:45:56.

get them in the supermarket. Absolutely. These are

:45:57.:45:59.

anti-inflammatories so suitable for joint or muscle pain, if you have a

:46:00.:46:04.

headache take paracetamol, you don't need anti-inflammatory drugs for

:46:05.:46:07.

that. It's about choosing the right drag the right type of pain. I think

:46:08.:46:17.

what you mean is, if you are around 77 and using please don't

:46:18.:46:19.

immediately stop. You have to go back to your GP and work it out

:46:20.:46:22.

together. There will be risks but also benefits, or else he would not

:46:23.:46:24.

be on it. Absolutely and people, like if

:46:25.:46:35.

people have rheumatoid arthritis, they need the drugs. Are there

:46:36.:46:39.

alternatives, antiinflammatories that don't increase risk of heart

:46:40.:46:43.

failure? The purpose of the study was to look at all the different

:46:44.:46:49.

types of nonsteroid antiinflammatory and some are much likery to cause

:46:50.:46:55.

heart problems than others, so ibuprofen, that is in the lower end

:46:56.:47:00.

of risk so we are already minimising risk. Also using the lowests do to

:47:01.:47:06.

kill the -- dose to kill the pain and where possible minimising the

:47:07.:47:09.

duration of treatment. Thank you very much.

:47:10.:47:13.

We get the latest from Oxford where a teenage girl has been

:47:14.:47:18.

assaulted after being grabbed off the street in Oxford

:47:19.:47:21.

Celebrations will be held in Cardiff later to mark the success of Welsh

:47:22.:47:33.

Incredible footage of the moment a police officer used his vehicle to

:47:34.:47:42.

stop a person after he fell into a coma. The PC has received an award

:47:43.:47:48.

for saving the lives of the young woman driving, her child and

:47:49.:47:52.

potentially other motorists. Have a look.

:47:53.:48:38.

We are hoping to talk to PC Pattison later in the programme.

:48:39.:48:45.

Celebrations will be held in Cardiff later to mark the success of Welsh

:48:46.:48:48.

athletes at the 2016 Olympic and Paralympic games.

:48:49.:48:50.

So how does it feel to come back to your hometown with gold,

:48:51.:48:53.

and what message do our athletes hope to bring to their

:48:54.:48:56.

Let's talk now to four Welsh athletes who all brought back

:48:57.:48:59.

Hollie Arnold, who won gold in Paralympic javelin.

:49:00.:49:03.

Hollie was born without a right forearm.

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one after winning gold in Paralympic wheelchair table tennis.

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Hollie, your throw, an incredible world record throw of 43 metres. How

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did you do it? ! I knew I could go out there and

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possibly break the world record, just didn't expect to break it by

:49:33.:49:37.

quite that much just because I had a shoulder injury for two months but I

:49:38.:49:41.

just went out there and did it with every faith in myself. Can we just

:49:42.:49:45.

see your medal because it's just below the camera. Oh, it's

:49:46.:49:50.

beautiful. Very shiny. When you put that on in the morning, what do you

:49:51.:49:56.

feel like? It feels heavy! But it feels really happy and I look

:49:57.:50:00.

down at it and realise that this is, all my hard work, all the training,

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sacrificing I've done and everybody else around me, yes, I guess it just

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is probably the best jewellery any girl can wear!

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Even better than diamonds! Even better! Rob, let's have a look at

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yours? Beautiful. What a close-up. Love it. That final for you was so

:50:20.:50:25.

tense, so emotional. Just talk us through that from your point of

:50:26.:50:30.

view? Yes, it was just amazing when I realised I'd won, it was so

:50:31.:50:33.

exhilarating. There was a lot of pressure and training that had gone

:50:34.:50:39.

into it. I let it all out pretty much and yes, just to keep calm in

:50:40.:50:44.

the last end, you know, dream come true for me really.

:50:45.:50:48.

Have you come down yet or not? I think it's quite hard, to be

:50:49.:50:51.

honest. There are a lot of things going on, a lot of media. For me,

:50:52.:50:58.

it's my first medal of course and my second Paralympics, just enjoying it

:50:59.:51:02.

at the moment and yes, just enjoying holding this and giving this a

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rattle every day. I love that noise, I love that sound!

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In terms of being involved in this parade, people are going to come

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out, praise and applaud you. I suppose you want to say thank you to

:51:15.:51:18.

people for supporting you as well don't you? Yeah, for sure, definite.

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Huge support back here in Wales and I've got to thank everyone from when

:51:25.:51:30.

I started playing table-tennis, the Sport Wales guys, to the gays that

:51:31.:51:34.

put the tables up every day and the people that we don't see, you know,

:51:35.:51:38.

the fans, thank you very much for being behind us all the way. I think

:51:39.:51:44.

Victoria's joined us as well, she won silver with Katherine Grainger,

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good morning! Hi, good morning. How are you? Good, thank you. Have you

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come down yet, what are you thinking several weeks on? Yes, it's

:51:53.:51:59.

obviously been a bit further away for us than the Paralympics but it's

:52:00.:52:04.

been nice to come home, the Olympics was an amazing experience and a wa

:52:05.:52:10.

great silver for Katherine and me. Coming home seeing family and

:52:11.:52:12.

friends has been lovely, being able to share it with them as well. You

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are from a small place called St Asatisfied, is that how you say it

:52:19.:52:29.

-- St Asaph. When you go home and you have this medal around your

:52:30.:52:32.

neck, what is the community saying to you? We live near Wrexham, I've

:52:33.:52:39.

just had lots of letters of congratulations from the Mayor and

:52:40.:52:42.

everything and it's been really lovely to see that my town back home

:52:43.:52:46.

have been watching and they've been cheering me on as well.

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Hollie, you were injured two months before when you turn up at the

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parade with a gold, that's quite an astonishing achievement isn't it?

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Yes, I guess. I wasn't going to let that small injury bother me going

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out there, I've trained so hard, it's my third Paralympics, I wanted

:53:10.:53:12.

to go out there and hopefully make it a lucky one. I had so much

:53:13.:53:19.

support. Everybody helped me and also Loughborough had to go there

:53:20.:53:25.

for recovery, so just everybody's effort worked and just went out

:53:26.:53:28.

there and did exactly what I wanted to do. Your third Paralympics did

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you say? No, it's my third. Third, yes. And you are still what, 22?

:53:34.:53:40.

Yes. So what more can we have from you over the next few years?

:53:41.:53:45.

Hopefully plenty. I'm still just 22, still a built of a young chicken,

:53:46.:53:52.

but hopefully plenty more to come! What about you Victoria and Tokyo,

:53:53.:53:56.

what are you thinking? Still taking time to think about it. It's a lot

:53:57.:54:00.

of commitment and another four years in rowing, so I love the sport, but

:54:01.:54:05.

I've got to make sure if I go back I'm doing it for absolutely the

:54:06.:54:10.

right reasons but just some time to speak to a few people and think

:54:11.:54:13.

about what's best and whether I want to go for another four or not. It's

:54:14.:54:17.

a big decision isn't it? Yes, it is. You have to put your life on hold in

:54:18.:54:23.

some ways and you sacrifice a lot to do the training it takes to become

:54:24.:54:31.

an Olympian, let alone an Olympic champion. It takes a lot of

:54:32.:54:35.

dedication. It's something to think about seriously, yes.

:54:36.:54:40.

Rob, what about you and Tokyo? It's quite exciting, the thought of it.

:54:41.:54:46.

Obviously like the guys said before, it's a big commitment, sacrifice,

:54:47.:54:50.

the family has to sacrifice a fair bit as well. I'm excited for it,

:54:51.:54:53.

it's in the back of my mind and there are a lot of young new tall

:54:54.:54:57.

ens coming up through the ranks in GB at the moment, Tom Matthews,

:54:58.:55:02.

another Welsh lad. It would be good to go there maybe do something --

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new talent. Tokyo will be a great amazing experience, I'm sure.

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Thank you very much. Enjoy the parade. Hollie, enjoy it, Rob and

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Victoria. Thank you very much. We'll get the latest from Oxford as

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a schoolgirl was abducted and sexually assaulted on her way to

:55:38.:55:40.

school. Police are warning that school children should walk together

:55:41.:55:45.

in groups. Coming up 2010 o'clock. The news and

:55:46.:55:48.

sport in a minute but first the weather with Matt. What's happening?

:55:49.:55:54.

Good morning. The nights are starting to draw in. Some may be

:55:55.:55:59.

thinking of heading somewhere that bit warmer and sunnier, the southern

:56:00.:56:04.

hemisphere for example, Australia. If we could afford it, we'd all love

:56:05.:56:09.

to two to Australia, blimey! This whole mass of cloud looks

:56:10.:56:13.

picturesque here, but this is a storm with a punch. One of the

:56:14.:56:16.

deepest storm systems they have had in Australia for decades and it's

:56:17.:56:21.

had massive impacts, as well as impacts to travel, there's been

:56:22.:56:24.

flooding around, damage, destruction. The entire state of

:56:25.:56:29.

south Australia, including the capital Adelaide were without power

:56:30.:56:33.

yesterday morning. These are big storms in Yes and it's not over yet

:56:34.:56:42.

with a few days to go. Winds up to 60-70mph, 120mm worth of rain that,

:56:43.:56:46.

will push on to Tasmania and impact New South Wales as well. Puts into

:56:47.:56:51.

perspective our winds last night. We have had similar wind strengths this

:56:52.:56:55.

morning but perhaps not the impact they've had.

:56:56.:56:59.

But yes, Australia looking down the eye of a spring storm at the moment.

:57:00.:57:03.

For us, it's an autumn storm across the UK at present.

:57:04.:57:11.

It's been producing gloomy skies. It's the wind strength that has been

:57:12.:57:17.

the main concern. Caithness and Sutherland and Orkney, this is where

:57:18.:57:22.

the wind strength is peaking. Elsewhere over Scotland, winds gust

:57:23.:57:28.

50, 60mph, which has been impacting the ferries and the bridges as well.

:57:29.:57:33.

Persistent across the Highlands at the moment.

:57:34.:57:38.

Better chance of dry weather to the east of Scotland. Winds picking up

:57:39.:57:41.

in Northern Ireland and northern England, touching gale force at

:57:42.:57:47.

times throughout the day. Some showers across the north, into

:57:48.:57:51.

Wales, and a good part of England and Wales dry now with sunshine.

:57:52.:57:56.

Lots of cloud through the Midlands now clearing. Outbreaks of rain into

:57:57.:57:59.

the afternoon in parts of East Anglia and the south-east. As that

:58:00.:58:03.

pushes away, we introduce the fresher air.

:58:04.:58:08.

It's going to feel fresh out there. A blustery afternoon, lots of

:58:09.:58:14.

sunshine for England and Wales. More showers for Northern Ireland. Plenty

:58:15.:58:19.

for western Scotland here too. The good news is, the winds ease

:58:20.:58:22.

later in the day and tonight there'll be enough of a breeze

:58:23.:58:26.

around to push the showers into the west. Away from that, in clearer

:58:27.:58:31.

skies, a chilly night. Eastern areas down to single figures in rural

:58:32.:58:34.

parts. Northern Scotland could get to around two or three degrees. But

:58:35.:58:39.

you may get to see the Northern Lights once again, like recent

:58:40.:58:42.

nights. Friday morning, a fresher start compared with today. Sunshine

:58:43.:58:46.

around and it will be one of those days, shower clouds pushing in from

:58:47.:58:49.

the west. You may get lucky and avoid them all together, you may see

:58:50.:58:52.

one or two showers throughout the day, but the showers clouds will be

:58:53.:58:55.

there, drier weather in-between them.

:58:56.:59:01.

We continue with the cool theme into the weekend.

:59:02.:59:06.

The start of the weekend, low pressure is the name of the game

:59:07.:59:10.

particularly for England and Wales. Widespread rain to start the day.

:59:11.:59:14.

Heavy bursts mixed in. Things turn drier and brighter for the west

:59:15.:59:18.

later on. Further north, lighter winds and for

:59:19.:59:20.

Scotland and Northern Ireland some will get away with a largely dry

:59:21.:59:24.

day. A general cool theme for the weekend. Wettest on Saturday,

:59:25.:59:28.

sunniest on Sunday and indeed most of us will see dry weather on

:59:29.:59:32.

Sunday. Breezy to the East Coast of England with a few showers, then

:59:33.:59:37.

cloudy and windy in the west later. Enjoy your day.

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Hello it's Thursay, it's 10am I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:59:53.:59:54.

Our top story - a teenage girl is grabbed off a busy street

:59:55.:59:58.

The girl was sexually assaulted before raising the alarm -

:59:59.:00:02.

school children in the area are warned to stay

:00:03.:00:04.

From Iraq, the latest video diary from our aid worker as she travels

:00:05.:00:13.

into areas only recently abandoned by brutal IS militants.

:00:14.:00:23.

From their faces, we can see that it doesn't matter to them how long it

:00:24.:00:31.

will take as long as, at the end of the day, they will reach home. And

:00:32.:00:38.

as Barnsley suspend the assistant manager over corruption allegations

:00:39.:00:41.

will speak to the man who yesterday became the head of the Association

:00:42.:00:44.

of football agents and we will be asking him why we need them at all.

:00:45.:00:54.

It's time to the latest news with Ben. Thank you, Victoria.

:00:55.:00:57.

Police in Oxford are appealing for witnesses after a teenage girl

:00:58.:00:59.

was abducted while walking to school and sexually assaulted.

:01:00.:01:02.

Detectives say the girl was wearing school uniform

:01:03.:01:03.

and was snatched from a busy street by two white

:01:04.:01:06.

She was found at midday knocking on doors of nearby houses and is now

:01:07.:01:10.

The inquiry into child sexual abuse in England and Wales has been thrown

:01:11.:01:21.

into fresh chaos with the suspension of its most senior lawyer.

:01:22.:01:23.

A spokeswoman said officials had recently become very

:01:24.:01:25.

concerned about aspects of Ben Emmerson's leadership.

:01:26.:01:27.

The inquiry was set up more than two years ago, but has been hit

:01:28.:01:33.

by delays and the resignation of three chairwomen.

:01:34.:01:37.

Let's talk to our correspondent Tom Symonds who's at the inquiry

:01:38.:01:39.

Another problem for this inquiry. Absolutely, Ben. Ben Emmerson is an

:01:40.:01:58.

important person in this inquiry, one of the senior figures with it

:01:59.:02:01.

from the beginning, seen as a driving force pushing the inquiry

:02:02.:02:07.

through although incredibly it has lost three previous chairs and is on

:02:08.:02:13.

its fourth, Professor Alexis Jay. The inquiry has, I am told, received

:02:14.:02:17.

complaints about him. There is no more detailed than that, more than

:02:18.:02:21.

one complaint. An investigation has begun. The inquiry also took time to

:02:22.:02:29.

dismiss suggestions in the press in the last few days that Ben Emmerson

:02:30.:02:32.

had been on the point of resigning because of his concerns about the

:02:33.:02:36.

way in which the inquiry is going, the size of it and the fact that

:02:37.:02:40.

there was a social worker at the head of it rather than a judge or a

:02:41.:02:45.

senior lawyer. So the inquiry is saying that they believe he did not

:02:46.:02:51.

raise those concerns and we understand there were discussions

:02:52.:02:54.

about his position yesterday, given this investigation going on. All of

:02:55.:02:59.

which throws the investigation into, if not a crisis, of the feeling of

:03:00.:03:05.

crisis. I've spoken this morning to several groups involved in

:03:06.:03:08.

representing survivors of child abuse, some say they will pull out

:03:09.:03:12.

all together, others say they are deeply frustrated about what is

:03:13.:03:16.

going on. This inquiry relies on the trust of those involved and they

:03:17.:03:20.

feel they are not getting it at the moment. Tom, thank you.

:03:21.:03:23.

The Italian Prime Minister, Matteo Renzi, has told the BBC it

:03:24.:03:25.

will be impossible for Brexit negotiations to result in a deal

:03:26.:03:28.

that gives British people more rights than others outside

:03:29.:03:30.

Mr Renzi said he thought that the referendum

:03:31.:03:36.

result was a bad decision, but he was ready to work

:03:37.:03:38.

with Theresa May to ensure the EU and Britain remained "best

:03:39.:03:41.

Complaints against the police have fallen by up to 90% in forces

:03:42.:03:51.

A study involving 2,000 officers in England, Northern Ireland

:03:52.:03:54.

and the United States found that the cameras had a big impact

:03:55.:03:57.

on the behaviour of officers, and the people they deal with.

:03:58.:04:00.

The findings are being published in the journal

:04:01.:04:02.

Che Donald from the Police Federation told this programme that

:04:03.:04:08.

body worn cameras shouldn't be considered a magic bullet

:04:09.:04:10.

The cameras were on all the time, and most definitely switched on

:04:11.:04:22.

before they arrived at an incident. The study also went on to show that

:04:23.:04:27.

if it was switched on halfway to the incident it did change the playing

:04:28.:04:31.

field somewhat. So although it is fantastic and the numbers are great,

:04:32.:04:36.

it is not over all the panacea to resolving police complaints and I

:04:37.:04:38.

think the study refers to that as well.

:04:39.:04:40.

There's been a new development in one of the stories we've been

:04:41.:04:44.

following on this programme, the tax credit chaos caused by US firm

:04:45.:04:47.

Now the BBC understands that 150 temporary staff

:04:48.:04:57.

at the Belfast office of Concentrix are to be let go tomorrow.

:04:58.:04:59.

The company said the workers involved had been due

:05:00.:05:02.

to finish last month and were recruited

:05:03.:05:04.

The move is related to the decision by HMRC not to renew a call-handling

:05:05.:05:08.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News, more at 10.30.

:05:09.:05:16.

Thank you, thanks to David who said that police body cameras were

:05:17.:05:23.

brilliant innovation but he said he could understand reservations about

:05:24.:05:26.

an officer having too much control over the camera, could it not be

:05:27.:05:32.

operated so that it comes on when the sound level is raised to a level

:05:33.:05:35.

above normal speech? When travelling in the car and using please radio it

:05:36.:05:40.

wouldn't need to come on but when voices are raised, it could mean

:05:41.:05:48.

things get heated. Mamadou Sakho C welcomes the cameras, hopes they

:05:49.:05:51.

will bring them into police stations, he has been wrongly

:05:52.:05:54.

accused of criminal damage by police officers who used nothing more than

:05:55.:05:58.

intimidation. Do get in touch with us

:05:59.:06:00.

throughout the morning - use the hashtag Victoria Live

:06:01.:06:02.

and if you text, you will be charged Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink is the

:06:03.:06:13.

latest manager named in the sting into football corruption, the QPR

:06:14.:06:18.

manager was filmed appearing to negotiate a ?55,000 deal to act as

:06:19.:06:21.

ambassador to a sports company who then proposed the sale of players to

:06:22.:06:27.

his club. The club say they will launch a full investigation.

:06:28.:06:29.

Barnsley assistant manager Tommy Wright has been suspended by the

:06:30.:06:33.

club after publicly accepting a ?5,000 bank to assist in the buying

:06:34.:06:40.

and selling of players. Both deny any wrongdoing. More on this story

:06:41.:06:45.

later in the programme. What a match last night between Celtic and

:06:46.:06:48.

Manchester City in the Champions League. A six goal thriller. It

:06:49.:06:54.

finished 3-3. This was after Mousa Dembele had given Celtic the lead.

:06:55.:06:59.

And he got his second and Celtic's third in the second half. Again City

:07:00.:07:07.

came back to level the match at 3-3, this was the equaliser after the

:07:08.:07:12.

shot from Aguero came off the keeper. Manager Pep Guardiola was on

:07:13.:07:15.

a ten match winning run, his best ever start in his managerial career.

:07:16.:07:22.

Arsenal also played last night, straightforward 2-0 win over Basle

:07:23.:07:25.

at the Emirates Stadium, Theo Walcott scored both goals. They

:07:26.:07:29.

finished joint top of the group along with Paris St Germain. After

:07:30.:07:33.

the match Arsene Wenger spoke about speculation linking him with the

:07:34.:07:38.

England manager's job, no vacant after Sam Allardyce left on Monday.

:07:39.:07:45.

This is what Arsene Wenger said. My priority has always been this club

:07:46.:07:48.

and until the end of this season, I am here. I am completely focused on

:07:49.:07:57.

that. Do you know the words of the English national anthem? Yes! I

:07:58.:08:06.

know! You never know! That could come in handy. Another manager

:08:07.:08:12.

linked to the vacant England position is Eddie Howe of

:08:13.:08:14.

Bournemouth. He has described it as the ultimate job and added that he

:08:15.:08:18.

is very much committed to his club at the moment. Before the Ryder Cup

:08:19.:08:22.

begins tomorrow the brother of Danny Willett, one of the European cup

:08:23.:08:26.

team, has come out with some astonishing criticism of American

:08:27.:08:30.

golf fans, calling them a bunch of imbecile is. He was writing in an

:08:31.:08:36.

article for a golf magazine. This is what he said. He said that Europe

:08:37.:08:42.

needed to silence the pudgy, basement dwelling the obnoxious

:08:43.:08:52.

dads, with their shiny teeth, Lego man hair, medicated ex-wives and

:08:53.:08:55.

resentful children. As you can imagine, Danny Willett has

:08:56.:08:58.

apologised for these comments by his brother. I'd just like to apologise

:08:59.:09:03.

to everyone involved, it is not the thoughts of myself, of the team, or

:09:04.:09:08.

of Captain Darren Clarke. I said to Peter that I was disappointed in

:09:09.:09:11.

what was said and written about the American fans. I went to see Davis

:09:12.:09:18.

and we had a chat about it all. He took it very well. I think he has

:09:19.:09:25.

drawn a line under it, for himself, and for the team. I think it will

:09:26.:09:29.

certainly adds spice between the teams when play begins tomorrow.

:09:30.:09:34.

Brothers, who needs them! Thank you, John.

:09:35.:09:37.

For several months now, an aid worker in Iraq has been

:09:38.:09:39.

recording a video diary for you of what life

:09:40.:09:41.

is like for families who've been left homeless by the conflict

:09:42.:09:44.

between fighters from the so-called Islamic State

:09:45.:09:46.

Her footage certainly puts our own challenges into perspective.

:09:47.:09:50.

In her latest video diary, Dr Bernadita Gaspar

:09:51.:09:54.

of the International Medical Corp says this.

:09:55.:09:56.

"In the midst of the most difficult times, you see

:09:57.:09:59.

the goodness of humanity", and then she cries.

:10:00.:10:02.

Her footage shows family homes destroyed by fighting,

:10:03.:10:06.

villages raised to the ground, and images of burning oil fields

:10:07.:10:09.

with dark smoke filling the usually blue sky.

:10:10.:10:13.

You'll see Dr Gaspar travelling with her team into areas that have

:10:14.:10:19.

been newly liberated from IS control.

:10:20.:10:27.

After nine months of being in Iraq, I would think that I would

:10:28.:10:31.

understand more and know more about what is happening.

:10:32.:10:33.

But the opposite seems to be the case.

:10:34.:11:28.

This is the grab bag in here, so it is full of water in there.

:11:29.:11:32.

The team is preparing to go for an assessment to Tinah village.

:11:33.:11:45.

This village is south-west of Erbil, where we have our base office.

:11:46.:11:51.

This village has been one of the areas that has been liberated

:11:52.:11:54.

They're saying about 60 families arrived in Tinah.

:11:55.:12:03.

There's 40 or 50 families have gone to Debaga.

:12:04.:12:11.

You see there's a lot of destroyed buildings and destroyed houses.

:12:12.:12:19.

One minute your house is there, the next minute your house is gone.

:12:20.:12:26.

I mean, it's lucky if it's just a house, but then people will tell

:12:27.:12:35.

us that there would be family members who would be,

:12:36.:12:39.

who are hurt and worse, who are killed as well.

:12:40.:12:45.

Oh, my goodness, just look at their faces!

:12:46.:13:08.

It's September 24th and it's a very happy day for most of the displaced

:13:09.:13:12.

families that have been living in this camp for more

:13:13.:13:19.

than two months now, because today they've managed

:13:20.:13:24.

to arrange transportation to go back to their villages

:13:25.:13:28.

We can see a long line of trucks in the background.

:13:29.:13:39.

These are families that will be going back home today.

:13:40.:13:41.

It seems that, from their faces, we can see that it doesn't

:13:42.:13:44.

Today, at last, they know that, at the end of the day,

:13:45.:13:59.

This is a family of seven, five boys, from 12 years

:14:00.:14:14.

TRANSLATION: Especially, like, the winter is coming

:14:15.:14:24.

How about pregnant women, do you see pregnant women,

:14:25.:15:45.

In the last few days, I've met a lot of interesting people.

:15:46.:16:19.

I've come to know persons that have stories to tell, and also

:16:20.:16:25.

discovered that, in the midst of the most difficult times,

:16:26.:16:31.

Experts believe the next flashpoint in Iraq is Mosul,

:16:32.:16:53.

it's still under the control of IS militants and just yesterday

:16:54.:16:57.

the USA and Iraqi government agreed a plan to send an extra 600

:16:58.:17:00.

American soldiers to Iraq to try to help retake Mosul.

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Try and picture yourselves living in a city

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controlled by brutal IS, knowing that that a some point

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there's going to be a battle to try to liberate it?

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Let me introduce you to DR Ahmed Sabani who is from Mosul

:17:29.:17:32.

Tell us about Mosul, it was a lovely city to grow up in? It was is second

:17:33.:18:00.

largest city after Baghdad and Iraq, so it's a very big, beautiful city

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in the North of Iraq. Life was so normal inside the city before 2014.

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You can't separate Mosul from other parts of Iraq. There were some

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security situations, bad situations, but, you know, it was normal, you

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know, people are living their normal life. You can't separate from other

:18:22.:18:27.

parts of Mosul, but after 2014, everything is changed. It's been

:18:28.:18:32.

like a traumatic change in Mosul because Isis suddenly took oaf the

:18:33.:18:38.

city -- over the city and they were like a big seagull on the city and

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people are like hostages, you know. And for your family who're there,

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who was there in Mosul? All of my family member. Parents? Brother,

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sisters, cousins, I have a lot of cousins. All of them, they are like

:18:54.:18:59.

hostages in the city now. Isis has started to, from the first they

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started to force people to follow the Shari'a rules and make life very

:19:05.:19:11.

hard and they have tough punishment for everybody who doesn't follow

:19:12.:19:15.

their Shari'a rule. Can you give us an example of things that your

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relatives have to do now because IS are in control that they didn't have

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to do before or things they are not allowed to do any more? Yes, to be

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honest, there are many challenges. In terms of the situation, it's very

:19:33.:19:37.

bad because the vast majority of people in Mosul are government

:19:38.:19:45.

employees. It's impossible to establish any new building within

:19:46.:19:50.

the city. It's hard to run an existing business in there. An

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example of that, men are forced to make like a beard to follow Shari'a

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and women must cover their faces. Anybody doesn't follow these things

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will be punished by Isis. For your relatives, similar? Similar

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thing, yes, horrible stories that we hear about daily. We have extended

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family and friends there, colleagues, many fled the city, went

:20:18.:20:21.

to other parts of Iraq or actually fled the country. It's a very

:20:22.:20:26.

horrible situation economically financially, socially, so people

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can't live there because of the security situation, they leave their

:20:30.:20:34.

houses, they can't work. I'm trying to imagine getting into their shoes,

:20:35.:20:38.

if you like, you are living under IS, you don't want to, there is a

:20:39.:20:42.

big battle coming down the road at some point, you want to be liberated

:20:43.:20:46.

but the fear of the violence that's going to be perpetrated... It's

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definitely enormous. Nobody knows what the results of the military

:20:50.:20:55.

offensive will be, hopefully with the least civil casualties.

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With your defence and security expertise, tell us what we can

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expect when Iraqi government soldiers turn up and start fighting?

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Mosul has been under occupation for over two years now, so that means

:21:10.:21:16.

they have had time to prepare, Isis have, building booby traps, setting

:21:17.:21:21.

up defensive positions in hospitals, schools, mosques, forcing coalition

:21:22.:21:26.

forces and Iraqi forces deciding whether to target those places or

:21:27.:21:38.

not. In other important places, small towns, things have been

:21:39.:21:42.

happening, but Mosul is a big place. Two million people? There are now

:21:43.:21:49.

1.5 people. Still a lot of people. House-to-house fighting that, even

:21:50.:21:53.

with success, will cause enormous destruck on of what was a fine,

:21:54.:21:59.

flourishing city -- enormous destruction. The other challenge is,

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there are multiple different groups fighting to take it back. There are

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Shia militias commanded by Iran, Kurdish forces who have their own

:22:10.:22:13.

objectives and ambitions to rule over parts of Mosul and American

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forces over 5,000 of them now who're directly flying Apache attacked

:22:21.:22:23.

helicopters around Mosul. You can imagine how complex an operation is

:22:24.:22:27.

with that many forces. Which leads us to the looming humanitarian

:22:28.:22:31.

situation there which is going to be serious? Exactly. We don't know

:22:32.:22:37.

exactly how this offensive is going to go, but we know it will be a

:22:38.:22:41.

disaster for children and families still trapped. That's 1.5 million

:22:42.:22:47.

people. Half of them are children. They are currently trapped because

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the checkpoints are all around Mosul, there are landmines, so they

:22:57.:23:00.

face a terrible decision, whether to stay there, be caught in the

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crossfire, to be used as a human shield or to take the journey which

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is going to be very risky. Do you want your relatives to get out or

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stay? It's quite a hard decision, you know. People inside the city

:23:13.:23:17.

left with a very hard and difficult options. Unbelievable. People who're

:23:18.:23:23.

trying to flee the city will be expected to be at extreme risk. But

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what do you want your parents, your brother, your sister, your cousins

:23:29.:23:31.

to do? There is a trade-off, you know. You can escape life there but

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you could find yourself in the worst case scenario in a conflict, you

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could be a war victim. What do you want your relatives to do? Well, I

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want the best for them. It's nearly impossible to leave the city, but I

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think if there are opportunities to leave, why not, they should I think

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use it. It's better to leave. Interesting dimension of sectarian

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politics in Mosul than Iraq, historically there's been a small

:24:05.:24:09.

Sunni majority in Mosul. The vast majority are Sunnis. But of course,

:24:10.:24:14.

one of the key forces on the ground that's most effective will most

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no-holds barred in the way it fights are the Shia militias, many under

:24:19.:24:21.

control of the state, some under the control of Iran. That creates

:24:22.:24:25.

inevitable tensions when a Shia majority force may take over or

:24:26.:24:31.

detain lots of Sunni individuals with a prior history of sectarian

:24:32.:24:34.

tensions in some of these areas. So there are fears above the

:24:35.:24:37.

consequences -- about the consequences of that as well. You

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have just come back from Iraq, what did you see there in terms of the

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children you were trying to help? So people are already being displaced

:24:46.:24:52.

from Mosul and from areas that have already been taken. I spoke to

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people who had made a journey from Mosul and to a mother in particular

:24:58.:25:02.

who was fleeing with her three children, including a four-month-old

:25:03.:25:05.

baby and she was Dodging Bullets while trying to leave. She reached

:25:06.:25:12.

safety, but there's also this worry for those who are able to leave

:25:13.:25:18.

afterwards on whether we'll be able to respond to the humanitarian

:25:19.:25:22.

needs. We estimate this is going to be the biggest humanitarian crisis

:25:23.:25:25.

by the end of this year. Thank you all of you, very much, for

:25:26.:25:28.

coming on the programme. Thank you, thank you, nice to see you, thank

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you. Jeremy Corbyn urged his party to end

:25:31.:25:40.

what he called the trench warfare. Later, we'll speak to a Labour

:25:41.:25:45.

member who was subject to abuse when she was on Labour's ruling governing

:25:46.:25:47.

body. The latest round of corrpuption

:25:48.:25:52.

allegations in football in a series of stings by the Daily Telegraph has

:25:53.:25:54.

resulted in Barnsley football club He was filmed by undercover

:25:55.:25:57.

reporters allegedly accepting five thousand pounds for agreeing to help

:25:58.:26:02.

fake businessmen who wanted The FA, the Premier League

:26:03.:26:04.

and the English Football League have issued a joint statement

:26:05.:26:11.

on in response to a series of allegations by the

:26:12.:26:13.

Daily Telegraph. Mike Miller is the new

:26:14.:26:15.

Independent Chairman of the Association of Football

:26:16.:26:36.

Agents. He only started in the

:26:37.:26:38.

role this yesterday. Congratulations, you only took up

:26:39.:26:46.

the role yesterday. Why do we need agents? They play an important role,

:26:47.:26:49.

not just in the football industry but in many industries. You use an

:26:50.:26:54.

agent to negotiate your deals, footballers want to concentrate on

:26:55.:26:57.

playing football, being the best possible player they can be, they

:26:58.:27:02.

don't have the time or the skills necessarily to negotiate, to

:27:03.:27:05.

understand rules and regulations, to talk to sponsors, to be up-to-date

:27:06.:27:11.

with the latest things. Football's got loads of time -- footballers.

:27:12.:27:16.

They... They've got loads of time? They spend a lot of time in the gym,

:27:17.:27:20.

they spend time thinking about the game. They don't spend time thinking

:27:21.:27:24.

about the game! The point is, they need people like agents to help them

:27:25.:27:28.

out so they can get the best possible deal. We don't want a

:27:29.:27:31.

return to the good old days when a footballer would walk in, the

:27:32.:27:35.

manager would say, here's two and six, a contract for another year,

:27:36.:27:38.

thank you very much and walk away. They deserve to be paid properly as

:27:39.:27:41.

the entertainers that they are. Sure, but what is allegedly

:27:42.:27:44.

happening according to the Daily Telegraph in a small minority of

:27:45.:27:49.

cases is that managers and agents are doing deals together and that is

:27:50.:27:55.

potentially corrupt? In every industry, walk of life, there are

:27:56.:27:57.

good people and bad people. There are people who try and bend the

:27:58.:28:01.

rules, there are people who try to break the rules. What the

:28:02.:28:04.

Association of football agents are saying is, we need to have proper

:28:05.:28:08.

regulation within the game to make sure that those temptations aren't

:28:09.:28:14.

put in people's way. Where will that regulation come from, which

:28:15.:28:17.

organisation? Originally Fifa regulated this aspect of the game. A

:28:18.:28:22.

few years ago they decided to deregulate it but the agents thought

:28:23.:28:26.

was a huge mistake. So it has to involve everyone because it's an

:28:27.:28:30.

international game, has to involve Fifa, UEFA and the Football

:28:31.:28:35.

Association. Or agents could just not be corrupt, they could do it

:28:36.:28:38.

without regulations, they are groundups? In every walk of life,

:28:39.:28:42.

you need regulation. We have seen what's happened in the City and

:28:43.:28:46.

other activities. You need proper regulation. Also it's a question of

:28:47.:28:52.

building and maintaining trust. Again, if n the old days, to become

:28:53.:28:56.

an agent, you had to pass a test, have insurance, prove that you were

:28:57.:28:59.

worthy and professional. Anyone who wants to use an agent wants to know

:29:00.:29:03.

that they'll represent them properly and that they have the skills to be

:29:04.:29:08.

able to do so. If you have proper regulation, proper code of conduct,

:29:09.:29:11.

you have trust and you know that you can choose from among aple of people

:29:12.:29:15.

who know what they are doing and can help you.

:29:16.:29:18.

There are many, many, many professional agents who do a really

:29:19.:29:26.

good job for their clients. Many behave impeccably, but I wonder, do

:29:27.:29:31.

you think it's possible for business of football to become more

:29:32.:29:34.

transparent which would also potentially lead to more

:29:35.:29:36.

accountability? We do think it is. Not just possible

:29:37.:29:40.

but also necessary. Agents want to do the best for their

:29:41.:29:44.

clients. They also want to play on a level playing field. They don't want

:29:45.:29:49.

other people to get work at their expense by doing things which are

:29:50.:29:53.

illegal or immoral which they would not do themselves. So regulation

:29:54.:29:56.

actually helps everyone. Transparency is very important.

:29:57.:30:02.

And in terms of some of the kind of staggering fees that some agents

:30:03.:30:08.

require for high-profile transfers, how do you justify that? Agents do a

:30:09.:30:14.

lot of good work, it takes a long time to become a proficient agent.

:30:15.:30:18.

You have to make sure you are up to speed on regulations, rules, be a

:30:19.:30:23.

good negotiator, I think agents get what they deserve in terms of they

:30:24.:30:26.

should be paid for doing their work just like anyone else.

:30:27.:30:27.

Thank you very much. Thank you, you only began the job

:30:28.:30:46.

yesterday! Thank you. Now the latest news with Ben.

:30:47.:30:48.

Police in Oxford are appealing for witnesses after a teenage girl

:30:49.:30:51.

was abducted while walking to school and sexually assaulted.

:30:52.:30:54.

Detectives say the girl was wearing school uniform and was snatched

:30:55.:30:57.

from a busy street by two white men in a silver car.

:30:58.:30:59.

She was found at midday knocking on doors of nearby houses and is now

:31:00.:31:03.

The inquiry into child sexual abuse in England and Wales has been thrown

:31:04.:31:11.

into fresh chaos with the suspension of its most senior lawyer.

:31:12.:31:14.

A spokeswoman said officials had recently become very concerned

:31:15.:31:16.

about aspects of Ben Emmerson's leadership.

:31:17.:31:17.

The inquiry was set up more than two years ago,

:31:18.:31:27.

but has been hit by delays and the resignation

:31:28.:31:30.

The Italian Prime Minister, Matteo Renzi, has told the BBC it

:31:31.:31:33.

will be impossible for Brexit negotiations to result in a deal

:31:34.:31:49.

Mr Renzi said he thought that the referendum

:31:50.:31:54.

result was a bad decision, but he was ready to work

:31:55.:31:57.

with Theresa May to ensure the EU and Britain remained "best

:31:58.:31:59.

Complaints against the police have fallen by up to 90% in forces

:32:00.:32:03.

A study involving 2,000 officers in England, Northern Ireland

:32:04.:32:07.

and the United States found that the cameras had a big impact

:32:08.:32:10.

on the behaviour of officers, and the people they deal with.

:32:11.:32:12.

The findings are being published in the journal

:32:13.:32:14.

One officer told this programme the cameras are changing the way

:32:15.:32:18.

It is not just about the behaviour of officers but about the behaviour

:32:19.:32:28.

of suspects dealt with because they will change their behaviour when

:32:29.:32:31.

they know they are on camera. It's about reduced complaints because

:32:32.:32:34.

people want make malicious complaints any more and we do get a

:32:35.:32:38.

lot of those but it is also about early resolution of people who make

:32:39.:32:41.

genuine complaint because it is right that that should not be

:32:42.:32:45.

dragged out and that take any longer than it needs to take and we can get

:32:46.:32:49.

that resolution quickly with body worn cameras. This programme wrote a

:32:50.:32:56.

story earlier about about The tax credit chaos caused

:32:57.:32:59.

by US firm Concentrix and HMRC. Now the BBC understands that 150

:33:00.:33:02.

temporary staff at the Belfast office of Concentrix

:33:03.:33:05.

are to be let go tomorrow. The company said the workers

:33:06.:33:07.

involved had been due to finish last month and were recruited

:33:08.:33:10.

on a short-term basis. The move is related to the decision

:33:11.:33:12.

by HMRC not to renew a call-handling Commonly prescribed painkillers -

:33:13.:33:15.

including ibuprofen - are linked to an increased risk

:33:16.:33:24.

of heart failure, A group of European researchers

:33:25.:33:26.

analysed the effects of non-steroid anti-inflammatory drugs given

:33:27.:33:38.

to nearly 10 million people. However, UK experts say

:33:39.:33:40.

that because most people in the study were older,

:33:41.:33:42.

the findings have very little that the latest BBC News, join me at

:33:43.:33:44.

11 o'clock for BBC Newsroom Life. Queens Park Rangers manager Jimmy

:33:45.:34:02.

Floyd Hasselbaink is the latest named in a sting into corruption,

:34:03.:34:06.

discounting negotiated a fee of ?50,000 to act as ambassador to a

:34:07.:34:10.

sports company were then proposed the sale of players to his club. A

:34:11.:34:14.

six goal thriller between Celtic and Manchester City in the Champions

:34:15.:34:19.

League last night, it finished 3-3 at Celtic Park, three times City

:34:20.:34:24.

came from behind, Pep Guardiola had won or ten of his previous matches

:34:25.:34:28.

before taking charge of them. Arsenal beat Basle 2-0, both goals

:34:29.:34:31.

by Walcott. They now have a win and a draw from

:34:32.:34:47.

their opening two matches. European Ryder Cup rookie Danny Willett has

:34:48.:34:50.

apologised for comments made by his brother, describing American fans as

:34:51.:34:52.

a braying mob of imbecile 's and pudgy basement dwelling irritants.

:34:53.:34:54.

This ahead of the start of the Ryder Cup tomorrow. The brother made the

:34:55.:34:57.

comments in an article for a golfing magazine, meant to be tongue in

:34:58.:35:00.

cheek, I am not sure it will be taken that way, expect to see

:35:01.:35:01.

pudgy fans getting a little riled up tomorrow.

:35:02.:35:12.

More details on the abduction of the Oxford schoolgirl yesterday, we will

:35:13.:35:19.

speak to Elizabeth Wade who is better councillor in the area where

:35:20.:35:26.

it happened, good morning, how has the community reacted? And is a

:35:27.:35:30.

close community and we don't have much crime. This is the last thing

:35:31.:35:37.

we would have expected. The community will be concerned about

:35:38.:35:41.

this girl and other people in the community, there are a lot of

:35:42.:35:44.

schools, primary schools and two secondary schools and throughout the

:35:45.:35:48.

day children are coming and going and it's always been a comfortable

:35:49.:35:53.

place to be. Now we have every parent's nightmare and every child's

:35:54.:35:57.

nightmare. I think it's very shocking. This happened in broad

:35:58.:36:03.

daylight at half past eight in the morning. I am told it is a really

:36:04.:36:09.

busy area as well. Incredibly busy, a major crossing between two bits of

:36:10.:36:14.

the time, traffic queues, people the time, traffic queues, people

:36:15.:36:19.

complain about the traffic all the time, children are around all the

:36:20.:36:22.

time, it should have been a completely safe place for this go to

:36:23.:36:28.

be. It does make one realise that one cannot be careful enough and

:36:29.:36:32.

that children should go around at least in twos and threes. They

:36:33.:36:37.

should not be alone until whoever perpetrated this terrible thing has

:36:38.:36:42.

been caught. I know that the police are working very hard on this this

:36:43.:36:46.

morning. Hopefully, they will have success later in the day.

:36:47.:36:48.

This schoolgirl was abducted and sexually assaulted at 838 in this

:36:49.:37:14.

area of Oxford, she was found at midday knocking on nearby doors of

:37:15.:37:20.

housing estate. More to come on this story later.

:37:21.:37:22.

Jeremy Corbyn has ended his party's conference in Liverpool by calling

:37:23.:37:25.

on Labour MPs to "end the trench warfare" and get behind

:37:26.:37:28.

He announced plans for a new fund to help areas with a lot

:37:29.:37:32.

of immigration, asking business to help pay for education

:37:33.:37:34.

through higher taxes, and promised to lift borrowing

:37:35.:37:36.

restrictions on councils to let them build more homes.

:37:37.:37:38.

He also said the party should prepare for a general election,

:37:39.:37:41.

which could happen as early as next year.

:37:42.:37:49.

Our job is now two win over the unconvinced of our fission. Only

:37:50.:37:56.

that we can we secure the Labour government we need. Let's be frank,

:37:57.:38:02.

no one will be convinced of a vision promoted by a divided party. We all

:38:03.:38:08.

agree on that. So I ask each and every one of you to accept the

:38:09.:38:13.

decision of the members, and the trench warfare, and work together to

:38:14.:38:19.

take on the Tories! - and the trench warfare.

:38:20.:38:33.

And we can speak now to a Labour member who was very much

:38:34.:38:36.

on the receiving end of abuse from party membes over the summer.

:38:37.:38:39.

Johanna Baxter was a member of Labour's ruling NEC.

:38:40.:38:41.

She's since lost her seat on that powerful committee.

:38:42.:38:43.

This is Johanna talking to the BBC in July.

:38:44.:38:45.

A number of us and a number of my colleagues in that room had been

:38:46.:38:49.

subject to bullying and intimidation prior to the meeting. Certain groups

:38:50.:38:54.

within the party published my personal contact details online.

:38:55.:39:05.

One of my colleagues had recently had her stalker sectioned, she was

:39:06.:39:11.

in tears and begged the leader for a secret ballot to protect her and

:39:12.:39:15.

other colleagues who had received intimidating behaviour and Boeing.

:39:16.:39:19.

The thing that upset me about that meeting was that the Labour Party

:39:20.:39:23.

leader voted against a proposal to have a secret ballot. Let's speak to

:39:24.:39:29.

Johanna Baxter now. Your first interview since leaving the NEC, the

:39:30.:39:34.

ruling governing body. I know that you are a little nervous about

:39:35.:39:43.

speaking now because you think it might lead to another torrent of

:39:44.:39:45.

abuse which have already experienced and you don't want to again.

:39:46.:39:48.

Absolutely. During that time on the national executive committee, until

:39:49.:39:50.

that interview I had never spoken to the press. I only did because I felt

:39:51.:39:54.

something needed to be said for change to be affected. That seemed

:39:55.:40:00.

to perpetrate the abuse that was happening. So it intensified after

:40:01.:40:07.

that, and I don't think any of that is helpful for the party. You will

:40:08.:40:13.

have heard Jeremy Corbyn as everyone else did insist yesterday but this

:40:14.:40:17.

kind of intimidation and abuse is absolutely not acceptable. I have

:40:18.:40:20.

heard him say that so many times yet it seems to me that it still goes

:40:21.:40:26.

on. That's right, Jeremy has always condemned abuse. I respect that from

:40:27.:40:30.

him. The problem is that much of it is done in his name. It is all very

:40:31.:40:43.

well for him to say the words, that he condemns abuse, but he has to be

:40:44.:40:47.

seen tackling it, clamping down on it. Does that mean sanctions for

:40:48.:40:50.

people who get involved in that kind of abuse? Absolutely, we have

:40:51.:40:52.

policies within the party about the conduct of members and how they

:40:53.:40:54.

should treat each other. Jeremy needs to be seen to enforce that.

:40:55.:40:59.

Also there is a responsibility on him as leader to say, that is not

:41:00.:41:04.

done in my name, and to call some of the worst of it out, when it

:41:05.:41:11.

happens, when it is seen. What about sanctions, are you talking about

:41:12.:41:14.

being banned from the party? The party has a number of types of

:41:15.:41:20.

sanctions, disciplinary procedures. Do you know of anyone who has been

:41:21.:41:25.

through those disciplinary procedures for bullying and

:41:26.:41:28.

intimidation? In the recent leadership election one of those was

:41:29.:41:32.

a bad saying that there should be no abuse within the leadership contest

:41:33.:41:37.

so anyone found to be particularly abusive to other party members or

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representatives, would have been dealt with through the processes

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that were in place to deal with the leadership election. So some members

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would not have had a vote in the leadership election because of that

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conduct. Is a practical things are being done? That Haddin process

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itself lead to a huge amount of abuse being inflicted on the people

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involved in it. I think the problem is that Jeremy himself needs to show

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leadership on that issue. Jeremy has a huge mandate to lead, and people

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need to respect that, as I do. But his leadership should not be

:42:23.:42:27.

unquestioning. I have never been an critical of any leader within the

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party. -- Shashank. Where there are concerns, they should be heard. So

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Jeremy has absolutely condemned abuse yet he see needs to be seen to

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be taking action, not just words. Let's look at the speech, some of

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the things mentioned sound like they should be in the next Labour

:42:57.:43:00.

manifesto, whenever that is. Will it be enough to attract those who have

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gone to Ukip from Labour, those who have voted Conservative since the

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last time they voted Labour? Enough to attract the wider electorate?

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Jeremy Purdy us on an election footing yesterday which I think is

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probably right because I think Theresa may will hold a general

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election earlier than 2020 Dodge Jeremy put us on an election

:43:23.:43:27.

footing. If we are on an election footing we must begin the backing of

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a lot of party members but it is not a detailed manifesto. We must find a

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way of compiling that manifesto and we have a process in the party to do

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that which is through the National policy Forum. One thing that

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concerns me is that the national policy Forum hasn't met in the last

:43:52.:43:55.

12 months at all. So I think it's incumbent on the leadership to

:43:56.:43:59.

engage with the democratic process that we have in place in the party

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to engage members in constructing the manifesto put to the nation.

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Some of the ideas mentioned yesterday, are they appealing enough

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to the numbers of voters that Labour will need if they want to win the

:44:12.:44:17.

next general election? We must put flesh on the bones. It is all very

:44:18.:44:22.

well for us to say that we will build more council homes, which I do

:44:23.:44:26.

support but we must explain where the money is coming from all these

:44:27.:44:30.

things. One question we had at the last election was about economic

:44:31.:44:34.

competence so we need to demonstrate that we understand that concern and

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we have a fully funded manifesto to present to the public. Thank you

:44:40.:44:43.

very much a coming on the programme, Johanna Baxter.

:44:44.:44:54.

Let me bring you this breaking news, it is from our health correspondent

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Hugh Pym, it appears that young women when it comes to mental health

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conditions have become a key high risk group, the gender gap has

:45:07.:45:14.

widened, the proportion of 16-24 -year-old women reporting these

:45:15.:45:20.

problems is up to 26% in 2014. Experts note that the growth has

:45:21.:45:24.

coincided with the growth in social media usage although they are not

:45:25.:45:29.

saying this is the course. Women between 16 and 24 reporting mental

:45:30.:45:34.

health disorders, the number has risen by 5% in the last seven years.

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Coming up we will talk to the boss of a police officer who used his

:45:39.:45:42.

vehicle to save a female motorist and her baby after she went into a

:45:43.:45:49.

diabetic, on the M1. That footage is absolutely astonishing, you can see

:45:50.:45:52.

at their -- she went into a diabetic coma.

:45:53.:45:56.

A fiasco - that's how the inquiry into child sex abuse in England

:45:57.:45:59.

and Wales has been described after it's most senior lawyer

:46:00.:46:02.

It's the biggest public inquiry in British history, set up two years

:46:03.:46:06.

ago by Theresa May and has already cost more than ?20 million.

:46:07.:46:09.

And the latest turn, which sees Ben Emmerson QC

:46:10.:46:12.

temporarily removed from his post has raised questions

:46:13.:46:19.

A spokesperson for Alexis Jay, the inquiry's fourth chairwoman says

:46:20.:46:24.

the suspension comes after concerns about "aspects of Mr Emmerson's

:46:25.:46:27.

Lord MacDonald, former director of public prosecutions says

:46:28.:46:33.

the inquiry is now "careering out of control".

:46:34.:46:35.

It's the latest in a line of controversies involving

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Baroness Butler-Sloss was appointed as chairwoman of the inquiry the day

:46:40.:46:44.

after it was announced, but stood down a week later.

:46:45.:46:48.

Dame Fiona Woolf succeeded her, but resigned after less

:46:49.:46:51.

They had both been criticised for being too close

:46:52.:46:56.

Then Justice Lowell Goddard took over the role in February 2015,

:46:57.:47:03.

In her statement, the New Zealand judge said the legacy of failure had

:47:04.:47:10.

Professor Alexis Jay, who reported on child sexual

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exploitation in Rotherham, is the current chair.

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It was hoped that her appointment would bring some

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Now, Ben Emmerson QC, who has served as counsel

:47:22.:47:26.

to the panel since October 2014, has been suspended from his role.

:47:27.:47:29.

Yesterday the inquiry said they would investigate concerns over

:47:30.:47:32.

Mr Emmerson said he was "unable" to comment at this time.

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So what does this mean for the future of the Inquiry; let's

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talk to Peter Saunders, Member of the Victims

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and Survivors' Consultative Panel and founder of NAPAC,

:47:48.:47:50.

The National Association for People Abused in Childhood.

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we also have Micael Pether, Partner at BLM Law who specialises

:47:54.:47:58.

in child sexual abuse claims and in Edinburgh we're joined

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by Ian McFayden, Campaigner and survivor of abuse,

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he's applying to be a core participant on the inquiry.

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Welcome all of you. Let's start with you Peter, if I may. What do you

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make of this latest development? Good morning, Victoria. The inquiry

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is, as your introduction says, the biggest inquiry in British history.

:48:24.:48:30.

I would argue it's probably in a sense the most toxic of issues to be

:48:31.:48:36.

examined, you know. We are talking about the abuse on an industrial

:48:37.:48:41.

scale of children over generations. Huge credit to Theresa May for

:48:42.:48:45.

setting up the inquiry and for amber Rudd to continue to. Does it matter

:48:46.:48:54.

if a QC has been suspended? I don't agree with Lord McDonald that it's

:48:55.:48:59.

descending into fiasco. I think the toxicity of the content maybe is

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something that's contributing to the difficulties that nobody's going to

:49:05.:49:08.

deny. But I see a large group of people who're very committed and

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working very, very hard to make this all work. I'm not here to speak on

:49:13.:49:17.

behalf of the inquiry, I'm not even here to speak as a member of the

:49:18.:49:25.

VSCP... What is that, sorry? The Victims and Consultative Panel,

:49:26.:49:28.

boldly appointed to advise the work and have been doing a sterling job.

:49:29.:49:35.

I'm here as the founder of NAPAC and a Suhr rival who wants the truth to

:49:36.:49:41.

be told. This is our best bet yet -- survivor. It's the nature of the

:49:42.:49:48.

inquiry, I'm afraid. I'm saddened that so many people continually have

:49:49.:49:51.

a pop at it before it's even really had a chance to get off the ground.

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OK. The nature of these things, it's just a hiccup, Michael Pether, do

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you agree? It's been marred by negligent 'til press and

:50:06.:50:08.

developments, but essentially there is an enormous group of very well

:50:09.:50:14.

qualified people who're supporting the inquiry.

:50:15.:50:28.

-- marred by negative press. There are some people working very

:50:29.:50:35.

efficiently. They need to get some positive developments, progress and

:50:36.:50:38.

clarity of direction and... They've got the terms of reference, haven't

:50:39.:50:41.

they? The difficulty with that is that they are so wide. That is the

:50:42.:50:45.

nature of these inquiries. Which is important. Yes. And without that, it

:50:46.:50:49.

wouldn't be achieving what it's trying to do. Let me bring in Ian

:50:50.:50:56.

McFayden, a campaigner and abuse survivor. Do you worry about this,

:50:57.:51:02.

or is it a hiccup, as Peter says? This is beyond a hiccup, you know.

:51:03.:51:08.

Within the last month and a half, we've lost our chair, we've now had

:51:09.:51:12.

the lead counsel suspended. At what stage are people going to

:51:13.:51:16.

understand, this is not about hiccups and issues that we can

:51:17.:51:20.

resolve, this is about examining why this inquiry is failing us as a

:51:21.:51:27.

survivors. We have to engage in this inquiry, it needs to be fit for our

:51:28.:51:32.

purposes, you know. I've people who've been waiting a lifetime for

:51:33.:51:35.

this inquiry. It's a one-off opportunity to get this right and

:51:36.:51:39.

no, I'm not grateful to Theresa May or amber Rudd, neither of them want

:51:40.:51:43.

to give us this inquiry, they have been pushed into giving us this

:51:44.:51:47.

inquiry, yes. My question is, is where is the influence that's

:51:48.:51:51.

destroying the leaders of this inquiry? Just so I'm clear, are you

:51:52.:51:58.

saying that this QC, Ben Emmerson is essential to it or it can carry on

:51:59.:52:03.

without him? The lead counsel who's been in place since 2014 who, when

:52:04.:52:08.

we've had chairpersons step down, has held the inquiry together and

:52:09.:52:12.

led it and driven it forward and is now suspended, is a real issue for

:52:13.:52:16.

us, yes, I do. OK, so what should happen?

:52:17.:52:21.

I think that basically the inquiry, if there are problems within it,

:52:22.:52:27.

they need to deal with it within and not wash their dirty laundry in

:52:28.:52:31.

public. For us to engage in this process and for this process to be a

:52:32.:52:36.

success, you require survivors' trust to step forward and give

:52:37.:52:41.

testimony and at the moment, it's lacking that sort of trust as far as

:52:42.:52:45.

I'm concerned. All right. I would have to disagree.

:52:46.:52:57.

It was never going to be an easy task. The best has been done. But

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I... I didn't interrupt you, Ian. Sorry. At NAPAC, we hear every day

:53:04.:53:09.

from survivors who're encouraged by this inquiry and it's a myth that

:53:10.:53:15.

nothing's happening. I hope people watching will come forward to the

:53:16.:53:19.

inquiry to give their testimony. There will be interim reports. The

:53:20.:53:22.

panel and other members of the inquiry are already doing a great

:53:23.:53:27.

deal of work. I'm not speaking for the inquiry, but I witness what is

:53:28.:53:31.

going on and it will never be good enough for some people. But let's

:53:32.:53:35.

get on with it. Very briefly, Ian, let's get on with

:53:36.:53:40.

it, crack on with it. Briefly? Whilst we have a chair and a lead

:53:41.:53:45.

counsel resigning, stepping away, being suspended, how can we allow

:53:46.:53:51.

this to go on? What is happening with our inquiry? Why are the

:53:52.:53:56.

leaders of our inquiry either stepping away or being suspended?

:53:57.:54:00.

These are questions that need to be answered.

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Thank you, I'm going to leave it there. Thank you very much for

:54:04.:54:04.

coming on the programme. Thank you. Now, before we go some incredible

:54:05.:54:09.

footage of the moment a police officer forced a car to stop

:54:10.:54:12.

using his own vehicle when the driver fell

:54:13.:54:15.

into a diabetic coma on the M1. PC Daniel Pattison has received

:54:16.:54:19.

an award for his act of bravery, which saved the lives of the woman

:54:20.:54:22.

driving, her young child and potentially

:54:23.:54:25.

many other motorists. Joining me now is Chief Inspector

:54:26.:54:27.

Phil Vickers from East Midlands operational support service who PC

:54:28.:55:16.

Danny Pattison also works for. We can't get hold of Danny so we'll

:55:17.:55:25.

have you! Thank you very much. Good morning. This was absolutely

:55:26.:55:29.

astonishing but it also was a bit of a team effort as well, wasn't it?

:55:30.:55:33.

Yes, absolutely. As well as Dan, there were four other members of the

:55:34.:55:37.

team, another officer in the vehicle, the control room staff and

:55:38.:55:40.

inspector managing the operation that morning that have received

:55:41.:55:44.

commendations. Just talk us through it from the officer's point of view?

:55:45.:55:49.

The initial report we received from a number of different members of the

:55:50.:55:53.

public was that the car was weaving from one side of the road to the

:55:54.:55:57.

other. That's not an uncommon report for us to receive, but when the

:55:58.:56:02.

officers attended and tried to stop the vehicle, it failed to stop.

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Although it wasn't making off at great speed, it was clear to the

:56:06.:56:09.

officers that were in the car that, not only was the driver in there,

:56:10.:56:12.

but there was an 18-month-old child as well. Talk us through how they

:56:13.:56:18.

stopped it? Well, they tried to use the normal way, came up behind the

:56:19.:56:22.

car and illuminated the blue lights and tried to stop it but

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unfortunately because of the medical condition the lady was suffering

:56:27.:56:29.

from at that point, she wasn't able to stop so, as you saw on the video,

:56:30.:56:34.

ultimately, the officers needed to push the car into the crash barrier

:56:35.:56:37.

and bring to it a safe conclusion. It wasn't just the safety of the

:56:38.:56:41.

driver, obviously, it was other road-users as well. It was a

:56:42.:56:43.

fantastic piece of work by everybody involved. What kind of training

:56:44.:56:47.

would your officers get to be able to do that? Dan's an experienced

:56:48.:56:53.

road policing officer, an advanced driver, trained in pursuit tactics

:56:54.:56:57.

and he's trained to do this kind of thing. It probably emphasises the

:56:58.:57:02.

kind of non-crime work we do on a daily basis when policing the roads,

:57:03.:57:06.

more often when a car fails to stop it's related to criminality but in

:57:07.:57:09.

this case obviously it was about the welfare of the driver.

:57:10.:57:15.

It's so good to be reporting a story that has a successful outcome. I

:57:16.:57:19.

mean, when the come came out of the coma, how did she respond to what

:57:20.:57:23.

happened? The first thing that happened, as the officers gave her

:57:24.:57:27.

first-aid by the side of the road, they shared their packed lunch with

:57:28.:57:31.

her. Oh! They were able to identify that she was having a diabetic

:57:32.:57:36.

episode and in fact in terms of being able to help her immediate

:57:37.:57:40.

recovery, being able to share the food with her helped her immensely

:57:41.:57:45.

by the side of the road. And that little girl will, I mean, when she

:57:46.:57:49.

grows up, she'll remember nothing about it one would think. Clearly

:57:50.:57:52.

she's going to watch the footage because it's gone around the world?

:57:53.:57:56.

The officer said that she was very happy obviously to be speaking to

:57:57.:58:00.

them, but she came out of it unharmed which is obviously the good

:58:01.:58:03.

news. Well, really nice to talk to you and

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give our regards to Danny and his colleagues, thank you very much Phil

:58:08.:58:09.

Vickers. Thank you for your company today,

:58:10.:58:13.

Joanna is here tomorrow.

:58:14.:58:19.

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