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Good morning, welcome to the programme, I'm Joanna Gosling. | :00:13. | :00:14. | |
The funeral is taking place of Israel's former | :00:15. | :00:16. | |
Prince Charles and Boris Johnson are amongst the hundreds of people | :00:17. | :00:19. | |
His critics often claimed he was a naive, overly | :00:20. | :00:24. | |
They were only wrong about the naive part. | :00:25. | :00:32. | |
We will join the service, throughout the morning. | :00:33. | :00:42. | |
President Obama is due to speak in the next half an hour. | :00:43. | :00:48. | |
The end is nigh for the spacecraft Rosetta - | :00:49. | :00:52. | |
as it prepares to crash-land into the comet it's been studying | :00:53. | :00:54. | |
We are live at the European Space Agency. | :00:55. | :00:58. | |
And later, a drug charity says it's saved hundreds of lives | :00:59. | :01:01. | |
It's a year since a change in the law made it possible | :01:02. | :01:05. | |
for an heroin antidote to be given out to friends and relatives to use | :01:06. | :01:08. | |
on addicts who are in danger of overdosing. | :01:09. | :01:19. | |
Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11am. | :01:20. | :01:25. | |
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Leaders from around the world are gathered in Jerusalem this | :01:33. | :01:35. | |
morning to pay their final respects to the former Israeli President | :01:36. | :01:38. | |
The 93-year-old Nobel Peace Prize winner suffered a stroke two | :01:39. | :01:42. | |
weeks ago and passed away earlier this week. | :01:43. | :01:46. | |
President Barack Obama and Prince Charles are amongst those | :01:47. | :01:49. | |
Speaking at the ceremony a short while ago, Israeli Prime Minister | :01:50. | :01:55. | |
Benjamin Netanyahu paid tribute to Peres as a man of vision. | :01:56. | :01:59. | |
That so many leaders came from around the world to bid | :02:00. | :02:01. | |
farewell to Shimon is a testament to his optimism, his quest | :02:02. | :02:04. | |
The people of Israel deeply appreciate the honour | :02:05. | :02:19. | |
And the State to which he dedicated his life. | :02:20. | :02:29. | |
He swept so many with his vision and his hope. | :02:30. | :02:40. | |
But we find hope in his legacy, as does the world. | :02:41. | :03:04. | |
With us now is our Middle East correspondent Yolande | :03:05. | :03:06. | |
Tell us more about the tributes that have been heard at the funeral so | :03:07. | :03:14. | |
far. It's a really impressive | :03:15. | :03:20. | |
international line-up, first of all, something quite incredible. To see | :03:21. | :03:26. | |
the National cemetery filled with dozens of world leaders are | :03:27. | :03:31. | |
assembling to remember the life of Shimon Peres. They come from 70 | :03:32. | :03:35. | |
different countries, some of them came from the other side of the | :03:36. | :03:40. | |
world. This is a man, as Israeli politicians have been pointing out, | :03:41. | :03:43. | |
his life really mirrored that of Israel itself. Which was created in | :03:44. | :03:48. | |
just 1948. He was somebody who served as an aid to the country's | :03:49. | :03:53. | |
founding fathers. He was a defence official early on and somebody who | :03:54. | :03:59. | |
was very hawkish. Widely credited with many of the achievements making | :04:00. | :04:04. | |
Israel a nuclear power. Also, early on, he supported the creation of | :04:05. | :04:10. | |
Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank, on occupied Palestinian | :04:11. | :04:15. | |
land. But then, he went through his big turnaround. He was the hawk that | :04:16. | :04:21. | |
became a dove. In 1993, he oversaw the peace deal, the first peace deal | :04:22. | :04:26. | |
with the Palestinians. That was what won him a Nobel Peace Prize. That is | :04:27. | :04:31. | |
why, really, the Palestinian president, Matt Millar bass, has | :04:32. | :04:35. | |
made just a short visit here but an extremely rare one to Jerusalem. | :04:36. | :04:41. | |
Withstanding a lot of criticism about the mixed legacy of Mr Peres | :04:42. | :04:50. | |
so he could be had. His vision and optimism Barack Obama will focus on, | :04:51. | :04:54. | |
when he gives his eulogy very shortly. What happens, from here? | :04:55. | :05:00. | |
At the moment, we are just hearing from the children of Mr Peretz, | :05:01. | :05:06. | |
their personal recollections of him and then he will be laid to rest | :05:07. | :05:12. | |
alongside the Prime Minister of Israel who was assassinated back in | :05:13. | :05:17. | |
1995. A joint winner of the Nobel Peace Prize with Mr Peretz and the | :05:18. | :05:22. | |
Palestinian president at the time, Yasir Arafat. He will then take his | :05:23. | :05:31. | |
place in the history of Israel. So people can continue to pay their | :05:32. | :05:34. | |
respects. 50,000 members of the Israeli public, most of them went to | :05:35. | :05:40. | |
visit the coffin of Mr Peres, when he was lying in state at the Israeli | :05:41. | :05:47. | |
parliament yesterday. Thank you. This is the scene live in and. We | :05:48. | :05:52. | |
will go back and continue with further coverage. We are expecting | :05:53. | :05:56. | |
to hear from President Barack Obama and we will bring you his tribute | :05:57. | :05:58. | |
when that happens. Annita is in the BBC | :05:59. | :06:00. | |
Newsroom, with a summary It's one of the most complicated | :06:01. | :06:02. | |
and difficult missions ever undertaken by a spacecraft, | :06:03. | :06:08. | |
but the 12-year journey by the Rosetta probe | :06:09. | :06:10. | |
is about to come to an end. Dramatically. The probe, Rosetta, | :06:11. | :06:21. | |
has been in close orbit around the comet 67P will crash landing to the | :06:22. | :06:23. | |
comet in a couple of hours' time. Rosetta is so far out in space | :06:24. | :06:26. | |
that its solar powered instruments are failing, but before impact, | :06:27. | :06:29. | |
it's expected to send back some more Our global science correspondent | :06:30. | :06:31. | |
Rebecca Morelle has more. A final farewell to Comet 67P | :06:32. | :06:35. | |
and a trailblazing mission that's The Rosetta spacecraft's been | :06:36. | :06:38. | |
orbiting this alien world, Now, though, its power is fading, | :06:39. | :06:44. | |
and a crash-landing will bring It's sad that, on the one | :06:45. | :06:49. | |
hand, this is over, but we've achieved | :06:50. | :07:00. | |
something fantastic. There's the excitement | :07:01. | :07:03. | |
of what we have achieved already by doing this mission, | :07:04. | :07:05. | |
and the huge amount of science we have that we've only | :07:06. | :07:07. | |
just started to scrape So, the operations end now, | :07:08. | :07:09. | |
but the science continues. The Rosetta mission blasted off | :07:10. | :07:15. | |
in 2004 and, after a 10-year journey, and it made history when it | :07:16. | :07:18. | |
dropped a small robot After a bumpy touchdown, | :07:19. | :07:21. | |
the robot stopped working But the next landing, | :07:22. | :07:30. | |
of its mothership, will The Rosetta spacecraft was designed | :07:31. | :07:33. | |
to fly to the comet, around the comet, | :07:34. | :07:38. | |
but not to land on it. There's no doubt that | :07:39. | :07:41. | |
as soon as it touches down But it gives scientists | :07:42. | :07:43. | |
the chance to squeeze every last drop of science | :07:44. | :07:48. | |
of this mission, and all the way down, | :07:49. | :07:50. | |
it's going to be taking close-up Rosetta's transformed our | :07:51. | :07:53. | |
understanding of comets. But it's also a mission that has | :07:54. | :08:03. | |
captured the public's imagination. The most senior lawyer working | :08:04. | :08:11. | |
for the independent inquiry into historical allegations of child | :08:12. | :08:13. | |
sex abuse has resigned. Ben Emmerson, who was suspended | :08:14. | :08:18. | |
from the inquiry yesterday after what were said to be questions | :08:19. | :08:20. | |
about his leadership, has denied falling out | :08:21. | :08:23. | |
with the chairwoman, Alexis Jay. The investigation was | :08:24. | :08:29. | |
set up 18 months ago to look at failures by institutions, | :08:30. | :08:31. | |
such as schools and hospitals, to protect children | :08:32. | :08:34. | |
in England and Wales. Questions have been raised | :08:35. | :08:37. | |
about the inquiry's future, but the Prime Minister Theresa May | :08:38. | :08:39. | |
has defended its work. We should always remember why | :08:40. | :08:44. | |
it is that the inquiry was set up And when those terms | :08:45. | :08:47. | |
of reference were set, they were agreed with | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
victims and survivors. And it's victims and survivors | :08:52. | :08:53. | |
who are at the heart For too many years, too many people | :08:54. | :08:55. | |
have been raising their voice, saying what has happened to them, | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
and people have not been listening. We need to learn the | :09:00. | :09:02. | |
lessons from the past. If we don't do that, we can't | :09:03. | :09:10. | |
guarantee that we're going to be able to stop such abuse | :09:11. | :09:13. | |
from happening in the future. The assistant manager | :09:14. | :09:15. | |
of Southampton Football Club has become the latest figure implicated | :09:16. | :09:24. | |
in the Daily Telegraph's investigation into football | :09:25. | :09:27. | |
corruption. The paper says Eric Black has been | :09:28. | :09:28. | |
secretly filmed allegedly advising undercover reporters how to bribe | :09:29. | :09:30. | |
staff at lower league clubs. A spokesperson for | :09:31. | :09:34. | |
Southampton said the club The Chief Constable | :09:35. | :09:36. | |
of South Yorkshire Police has said he'll take legal action | :09:37. | :09:45. | |
after the region's Police and Crime Commissioner | :09:46. | :09:47. | |
asked him to resign. David Crompton was suspended | :09:48. | :09:53. | |
from his role, following the Hillsborough inquest | :09:54. | :09:55. | |
verdicts in April. The PCC Alan Billings says he should | :09:56. | :09:57. | |
quit because he had led a force that put its own reputation before | :09:58. | :10:07. | |
the welfare of victims. Mr Crompton says he'll challenge | :10:08. | :10:09. | |
that in the high court. The Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt | :10:10. | :10:11. | |
is threatening to 'name and shame' restaurants, | :10:12. | :10:14. | |
cafes and pubs that do not reduce In private meeting | :10:15. | :10:16. | |
Mr Hunt and the head of Public Health England, | :10:17. | :10:19. | |
Duncan Selbie, met more They discussed the implementation | :10:20. | :10:21. | |
of the government's obesity strategy, which includes | :10:22. | :10:24. | |
a commitment to cut sugar Shares the troubled in Deutsche Bank | :10:25. | :10:26. | |
- Europe's second largest lender - have fallen sharply amid reports | :10:27. | :10:41. | |
that some hedge funds There have been questions | :10:42. | :10:43. | |
about the bank's stability since news emerged that it is facing | :10:44. | :10:51. | |
a penalty of up to $14 billion in the US for mis-selling | :10:52. | :10:54. | |
mortgage-backed securities. Investigations are continuing | :10:55. | :10:56. | |
in America into what caused a train to crash into a station | :10:57. | :10:58. | |
in New Jersey yesterday. A 34-year-old woman died and more | :10:59. | :11:00. | |
than 100 other people were injured. The packed commuter service failed | :11:01. | :11:03. | |
to slow down and then The packed commuter service failed | :11:04. | :11:06. | |
to slow down and then The train driver has been released | :11:07. | :11:09. | |
from hospital and is expected to be If you're in your 30s, | :11:10. | :11:13. | |
you're probably only half as wealthy as someone who is now in their 40s | :11:14. | :11:18. | |
was at the same age. That's one of the findings of some | :11:19. | :11:21. | |
research looking at differences in wealth between people born | :11:22. | :11:23. | |
in the 1970s and 1980s. The property boom and generous | :11:24. | :11:26. | |
pensions are the big Our personal finance correspondent | :11:27. | :11:28. | |
Simon Gompertz explains. Making the best of it, | :11:29. | :11:34. | |
but this is the generation Early-30s, struggling to get | :11:35. | :11:37. | |
on the housing ladder, shelling out for rent, | :11:38. | :11:40. | |
instead of a pension. It was very much everyone | :11:41. | :11:45. | |
was spending on credit cards that were limitless, and people could get | :11:46. | :11:48. | |
another one and another one. And I think people didn't think | :11:49. | :11:50. | |
they needed a plan, really. And I grew up in that | :11:51. | :11:53. | |
scenario, as a little boy. It is hard to try and get a place | :11:54. | :11:59. | |
of my own, as well, as it is. I'd like to get to maybe | :12:00. | :12:08. | |
house-sharing stage, or renting, but I think that | :12:09. | :12:10. | |
what is the norm now is renting. It's getting a lot more | :12:11. | :12:13. | |
like Europe, I think. I think it's becoming a bit | :12:14. | :12:15. | |
of a daydream that people can The stark numbers are | :12:16. | :12:18. | |
that the average wealth of this group, born in the early 1980s, | :12:19. | :12:22. | |
is ?27,000 each, including home and savings, while those only ten | :12:23. | :12:25. | |
years old had wealth by the same stage in their lives of ?53,000, | :12:26. | :12:28. | |
helped by house prices and the value If we look across the country | :12:29. | :12:31. | |
as a whole, on average, those born in the '80s have half | :12:32. | :12:40. | |
the wealth of those born ten years earlier | :12:41. | :12:42. | |
did at the same age. And when we look at their incomes, | :12:43. | :12:44. | |
they look about the same. But renters are spending a bigger | :12:45. | :12:47. | |
share of their income That bigger share, | :12:48. | :12:50. | |
who don't own a home. That's crucial, because young adults | :12:51. | :12:53. | |
now paying high rents are watching older generations | :12:54. | :12:58. | |
pull far ahead, as far And, when they're older, | :12:59. | :13:00. | |
they are likely to have stingier That's a summary of the latest BBC | :13:01. | :13:07. | |
News, more at 9:30am. Thank you, let's go back to | :13:08. | :13:26. | |
Jerusalem where the funeral service is underway for the former Prime | :13:27. | :13:30. | |
Minister and President Shimon Peres, being laid to rest in a ceremony | :13:31. | :13:34. | |
being attended by leaders from around the world, the largest | :13:35. | :13:38. | |
gathering of world leaders injuries and for years. The children of | :13:39. | :13:46. | |
Shimon Peres have just paid tribute. They have just followed on from | :13:47. | :13:52. | |
eulogies that have been delivered, paid tribute to the life of a man | :13:53. | :13:56. | |
who has been described as a man of peace. The Prime Minister, Benjamin | :13:57. | :14:07. | |
-- Benjamin Netanyahu said he sought to incredible heights, great man of | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
Israel, great man of the world. This is his funeral service. He will soon | :14:13. | :14:21. | |
be laid to rest, alongside other former leaders and President Obama | :14:22. | :14:26. | |
is about to deliver his eulogy to Shimon Peres. | :14:27. | :14:44. | |
To the generations of the Peres family. To the president, Prime | :14:45. | :14:56. | |
Minister, Netanyahu, members of the Israeli government, heads of state, | :14:57. | :15:02. | |
and government and guests from around the world, including | :15:03. | :15:11. | |
President Mahmoud Abbas, whose presence here is a gesture and a | :15:12. | :15:14. | |
reminder of the unfinished business of peace. To the people of Israel, I | :15:15. | :15:23. | |
could not be more honoured to be in Jerusalem, to say farewell to my | :15:24. | :15:27. | |
friend, Shimon Peres. Who showed us that justice and hope | :15:28. | :15:43. | |
are at the heart of the Zionist idea. A free life in a homeland | :15:44. | :15:57. | |
regained. A secure life in a nation that can defend itself by itself. A | :15:58. | :16:07. | |
full life in friendship with nations that can be counted on as allies. | :16:08. | :16:12. | |
Always. A bountiful life, driven by the | :16:13. | :16:22. | |
simple pleasures of family and by big dreams. This was Shimon Peres' | :16:23. | :16:33. | |
life. This is the state of Israel. This is the story of the Jewish | :16:34. | :16:41. | |
people over the last century. It was made possible by a founding | :16:42. | :16:47. | |
generation that accounts Shimon as one of its own. Shimon once said | :16:48. | :16:56. | |
that the message of the Jewish people to mankind is that faith and | :16:57. | :17:05. | |
moral vision can triumph over all adversity. For Shimon, that moral | :17:06. | :17:13. | |
vision was rooted in an honest reckoning of the world as it is. He | :17:14. | :17:24. | |
said he felt surrounded by a sea of sick and threatening forests when he | :17:25. | :17:29. | |
was born. When his family got the chance to go to Palestine, his | :17:30. | :17:32. | |
beloved grandfather's parting words were simple. Shimon, stay Jew. | :17:33. | :17:46. | |
Propelled with fat face, he found his home, he found his purpose. He | :17:47. | :17:53. | |
found his life's work. -- propelled with that faith. But he was still a | :17:54. | :17:57. | |
teenager when his grandfather was burned alive by the Nazis in the | :17:58. | :18:02. | |
town where Shimon was born. The synagogue in which he prayed became | :18:03. | :18:08. | |
an inferno. The railroad tracks which carried him towards the | :18:09. | :18:13. | |
promised land also delivered so many of his people to death camps. And | :18:14. | :18:23. | |
so, from an early age, Shimon bore witness to the cruelty that human | :18:24. | :18:28. | |
beings could inflict on each other. The ways that one group of people | :18:29. | :18:35. | |
could dehumanise another. The particular madness of anti-Semitism, | :18:36. | :18:45. | |
which has run like a stain through history. That understanding of man's | :18:46. | :18:49. | |
ever present sinfulness would steal him against hardship and make him | :18:50. | :18:57. | |
the jewel and against threats to Jewry around the world. But that | :18:58. | :19:04. | |
understanding would never harden his heart. It would never extinguish his | :19:05. | :19:20. | |
face. -- his faith. It broadened his moral imagination instead, and gave | :19:21. | :19:24. | |
him the capacity to see all people as deserving of dignity and respect. | :19:25. | :19:33. | |
It helped him see not just the world as it is but the world as it should | :19:34. | :19:41. | |
be. What Shimon did to shape the story | :19:42. | :19:47. | |
of Israel is well chronicled. Starting in the kibbutz that he | :19:48. | :19:55. | |
founded with his wife, he began the work of building a moral community. | :19:56. | :20:03. | |
Begu Rhian called him to serve at their headquarters to make sure that | :20:04. | :20:07. | |
the British people have the armaments and organisation to secure | :20:08. | :20:12. | |
their freedom. After independence, surrounded by enemies who denied | :20:13. | :20:16. | |
Israel's existence and sought to drive it into the sea, the child who | :20:17. | :20:24. | |
had wanted to be a poet of the stars became a man who built Israel's | :20:25. | :20:31. | |
defence industry, who laid the foundation for the formidable Armed | :20:32. | :20:40. | |
Forces that won Israel's wars. His skills secured Israel's strategic | :20:41. | :20:45. | |
position, his boldness sent Israeli commandos to rescue Jews from | :20:46. | :20:53. | |
Ethiopia. His statesmanship built an unbreakable bond with United States | :20:54. | :21:02. | |
of the America -- United States of America and so many other countries. | :21:03. | :21:09. | |
His contributions did not end there. Shimon showed what people can do | :21:10. | :21:15. | |
when they harness reason and science to a common cause. He understood | :21:16. | :21:19. | |
that a country without many natural resources could more than make up | :21:20. | :21:22. | |
for it with the talents of its people. He made hard choices to roll | :21:23. | :21:32. | |
back inflation and climb back from a terrible economic crisis. He | :21:33. | :21:36. | |
champions the promise of science and technology to make the desert bloom | :21:37. | :21:44. | |
and turned this tiny country into a central hub of the digital age, | :21:45. | :21:48. | |
making life better not just for people here but people around the | :21:49. | :21:57. | |
world. In deed, Shimon's contribution to this nation is so | :21:58. | :22:06. | |
fundamental, so pervasive that perhaps sometimes they can be | :22:07. | :22:11. | |
overlooked. For younger generation, Shimon was | :22:12. | :22:19. | |
probably remembered more for a peace process that never reached its end | :22:20. | :22:27. | |
point. They would listen to critics on the left who might argue that | :22:28. | :22:33. | |
Shimon did not fully acknowledge the failings of his nation, or perhaps | :22:34. | :22:40. | |
more numerous critics on the right who argue that he refused to see the | :22:41. | :22:44. | |
true wickedness of the world and called him naive. | :22:45. | :23:02. | |
But whatever he shared with his family or his closest friends, to | :23:03. | :23:08. | |
the world he brushed off the critics. And I know from my | :23:09. | :23:15. | |
conversations with him that his pursuit of peace was never naive. | :23:16. | :23:26. | |
On one special occasion, each time, he would read the names of the | :23:27. | :23:31. | |
family that he lost. As a young man he fed his village by working in the | :23:32. | :23:35. | |
fields during the day, but then defending its by carrying a rifle at | :23:36. | :23:40. | |
night. He understood, in this war-torn region, where too often | :23:41. | :23:47. | |
Arab youths are taught to hate Israel from an early age, he | :23:48. | :23:52. | |
understood just how hard peace would be. I'm sure he was alternatively | :23:53. | :24:04. | |
angry and used to hear the same critics who called him hopelessly | :24:05. | :24:07. | |
naive depend on the defence architecture that he himself had | :24:08. | :24:17. | |
helped to build. I don't believe he was naive. He understood from | :24:18. | :24:24. | |
hardened experience that true security comes to making peace with | :24:25. | :24:31. | |
your neighbours. We won them all, he said of Israel's wars, but we did | :24:32. | :24:37. | |
not win the greatest victory that we aspire to, release from the need to | :24:38. | :24:48. | |
win victories. And just as he understood the practical necessity | :24:49. | :24:56. | |
of peace, Shimon believe that Israel's exceptionalism was rooted | :24:57. | :24:59. | |
not only infidelity to the Jewish people, -- was rooted not only in | :25:00. | :25:09. | |
fidelity to the Jewish people but in the moral precepts of his Jewish | :25:10. | :25:15. | |
faith. The Jewish people were not born to rule another people, he | :25:16. | :25:21. | |
said. From the very first day, we are a guest, slaves and masters. Out | :25:22. | :25:35. | |
of the hardships of the diaspora he found room in his heart for others | :25:36. | :25:43. | |
who suffered. He came to hate prejudice with the passion of one | :25:44. | :25:48. | |
who knows how it feels to be its targets. Even in the face of | :25:49. | :25:56. | |
terrorist attacks, even after repeated disappointments at the | :25:57. | :26:04. | |
negotiation table, he insisted that, as human beings, Palestinians must | :26:05. | :26:11. | |
be seen as equal in dignity to Jews and must therefore be equal in | :26:12. | :26:15. | |
self-determination. Because of his sense of justice, his analysis of | :26:16. | :26:24. | |
Israel's security, his understanding of Israel's meaning, he believes | :26:25. | :26:30. | |
that the Zionist idea would be best protected when Palestinians too had | :26:31. | :26:39. | |
a state of their own. Of course, we gather here in the knowledge that | :26:40. | :26:47. | |
Shimon never saw his dream of peace achieved. The region is going | :26:48. | :26:59. | |
through a chaotic time. Threats are ever present. And yet he did not | :27:00. | :27:11. | |
stop dreaming, and he did not stop working. By the time that I came to | :27:12. | :27:17. | |
work with Shimon he was in the twilight of his years, although he | :27:18. | :27:24. | |
might not admit it. I would be the tenth US president since John F. | :27:25. | :27:29. | |
Kennedy to sit down with Shimon. The tenth to fall prey to his charms. I | :27:30. | :27:37. | |
think of him sitting in the Oval Office, this final member of | :27:38. | :27:41. | |
Israel's founding generation, under the portrait of George Washington, | :27:42. | :27:48. | |
telling me stories from the past but, more often, talking with and | :27:49. | :27:52. | |
he's Yaz of the present. His most recent lecture, his next project. | :27:53. | :28:04. | |
His plans for the future. The wonders of his grandchildren. In | :28:05. | :28:12. | |
many ways, he reminded me of some of the giants of the 20th-century that | :28:13. | :28:20. | |
I've had the honour to meet. -- some other giants. Men like Nelson | :28:21. | :28:26. | |
Mandela, women like Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth. Leaders who have | :28:27. | :28:30. | |
seen so much, whose lives span such momentous ethics that they find no | :28:31. | :28:39. | |
needs to posture or traffic in what is popular in the moment. People who | :28:40. | :28:53. | |
speak with the depth and knowledge, not in sound bites. They find no | :28:54. | :29:05. | |
interest in polls or fads, and like these leaders, Shimon could be true | :29:06. | :29:08. | |
to his convictions even if they cut against the grain of current | :29:09. | :29:17. | |
opinion. He knew better than the cynic that if you look out over the | :29:18. | :29:23. | |
arc of history, human beings should be filled not with fear but with | :29:24. | :29:32. | |
hope. I'm sure that is why he was so excited about technology because, | :29:33. | :29:37. | |
for him, it symbolised the march of human progress. And it is why he | :29:38. | :29:42. | |
loved so much to talk about young people. Because he saw young people | :29:43. | :29:47. | |
unburdened by the prejudices of the past. It's why he believed in | :29:48. | :29:57. | |
miracles, because, in Israel, he saw a miracle come true. As Americans | :29:58. | :30:07. | |
and Israelis, we often talk about the unbreakable bond between our | :30:08. | :30:12. | |
nations and, yes, these bonds and compass common interests. Vital | :30:13. | :30:19. | |
cooperation that makes both our nations more secure. But, today, we | :30:20. | :30:28. | |
are reminded that the bonds that matter most... Anchored in a | :30:29. | :30:36. | |
Judaeo-Christian tradition we believe an irreducible value of | :30:37. | :30:42. | |
every human being. I nations were built on that idea -- our nations | :30:43. | :30:50. | |
were built. They were built in large part by stubborn idealists and | :30:51. | :30:54. | |
striping immigrants, including those who had fled war and oppression. -- | :30:55. | :31:01. | |
striving immigrants. Both our nations had flaws that were not | :31:02. | :31:09. | |
always fixed. Parts of our history that dates back to our founding that | :31:10. | :31:14. | |
we do not always squarely address. But because our founders planted not | :31:15. | :31:25. | |
just flags in the eternal soil, but also planted the seeds of democracy, | :31:26. | :31:32. | |
we have the ability to always pursue a better world. We have the capacity | :31:33. | :31:43. | |
to do what is right. As an American, as a Christian, a person partly of | :31:44. | :31:51. | |
African descent, born in Hawaii, a place that could not be further than | :31:52. | :32:00. | |
where Shimon spent his youth, I took great pleasure in my friendship with | :32:01. | :32:11. | |
his older, wiser man. We shared a love of words and books and history. | :32:12. | :32:17. | |
And, perhaps, like most politicians we shared too much great joy in | :32:18. | :32:26. | |
hearing ourselves talk. But beyond that, I think, our friendship was | :32:27. | :32:30. | |
rooted in the fact that I could somehow see myself in his story and | :32:31. | :32:35. | |
maybe he could see himself in line. Because, for all of our differences, | :32:36. | :32:43. | |
both of us had lived such unlikely lives. | :32:44. | :32:51. | |
It was so surprising to see the two of us, | :32:52. | :32:54. | |
where we had started. Talking together in the White House, meeting | :32:55. | :33:03. | |
here, in Israel. Both of us understood we were here | :33:04. | :33:16. | |
only because, in some way, we reflected the magnificent story of | :33:17. | :33:25. | |
our nations. Shimon 's story, the story of Israel. The experience of | :33:26. | :33:31. | |
the Jewish people. I believe it is universal. It's the story of a | :33:32. | :33:37. | |
people who come over so many centuries in the wilderness, never | :33:38. | :33:41. | |
gave up on that basic human longing to return home. It's a story of a | :33:42. | :33:49. | |
people who suffered the boot of oppression and the shutting of the | :33:50. | :33:54. | |
gas chamber's door. And, yet, never gave up on a belief in goodness. | :33:55. | :33:59. | |
And it's the story of a man who was counted on and off and counted out, | :34:00. | :34:10. | |
again and again, and who never lost hope. | :34:11. | :34:15. | |
Shimon Peres reminds us that the state of Israel, like the United | :34:16. | :34:21. | |
States of America, was not built by cynics. We exist, because people | :34:22. | :34:29. | |
before us refused to be constrained by the past or the difficulties of | :34:30. | :34:34. | |
the present. And Shimon Peres was never cynical. | :34:35. | :34:38. | |
It is that faith, that optimism, that belief, even when all the | :34:39. | :34:47. | |
evidence is to the contrary, that tomorrow can be better. That makes | :34:48. | :34:55. | |
us not just on Shimon Peres, but love him. -- just honour. The last | :34:56. | :35:03. | |
of the founding generation has gone and Shimon accomplish enough things | :35:04. | :35:07. | |
in his life for 1000 members he understood it is better to live to | :35:08. | :35:11. | |
the very end of his time on earth with a longing not for the past, but | :35:12. | :35:15. | |
for the dreams that have not yet come true. Then Israel that is | :35:16. | :35:23. | |
secure with a just and lasting peace with its neighbours. Now this work | :35:24. | :35:27. | |
is in the hands of Israel's next generation. In the hands of Israel | :35:28. | :35:40. | |
's next generation and friends. Like Joshua, we feel the weight of | :35:41. | :35:45. | |
responsibility that Shimon seemed to wear so lightly. We draw strength | :35:46. | :35:48. | |
from his example and the fact that he believed in us. Even when we | :35:49. | :35:58. | |
doubted ourselves. Scripture tells us that before his death, Moses | :35:59. | :36:03. | |
said, "I call upon heaven and earth to bear witness this day that I have | :36:04. | :36:11. | |
set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Therefore, | :36:12. | :36:17. | |
choose life. That you and your offspring may live. | :36:18. | :36:30. | |
Choose life. Fort Shimon chose life. Let us make his work our own. May | :36:31. | :36:39. | |
God bless his memory, may God bless this country and this world that he | :36:40. | :36:41. | |
loved so dearly. Shimon : President Barack Obama paying | :36:42. | :37:19. | |
tribute to Shimon Peres, now being embraced by members of his family. | :37:20. | :37:24. | |
He said he had the capacity to see all people as deserving of dignity | :37:25. | :37:29. | |
and respect. He understood true security comes from making peace | :37:30. | :37:33. | |
with your neighbours. He hated prejudice, he said. He said that he | :37:34. | :37:37. | |
seemed to wear the weight of responsibility lightly. Some of what | :37:38. | :37:43. | |
he said echoed Bill Clinton, who spoke a little earlier. You can see | :37:44. | :37:48. | |
him there, now. He spoke earlier at this service. And said how Israel | :37:49. | :37:55. | |
had watched Shimon Peres grow into a wise statesman. I think this is now | :37:56. | :38:01. | |
in the morning prayer. At the service. | :38:02. | :38:07. | |
In our Tel Aviv studio this morning is the Former Israeli Justice | :38:08. | :38:09. | |
Minister Dr Yossi Beilin who served under Shimon Peres as his cabinet | :38:10. | :38:12. | |
Secretary and was instrumental in initiating the Oslo Accords. | :38:13. | :38:14. | |
From Jerusalem, is the Editor in Chief of the Jerusalem Post, | :38:15. | :38:18. | |
Yaakov Katz, who met the former Israeli Prime Minister several times | :38:19. | :38:21. | |
as a reporter and travelled with him on official trips. | :38:22. | :38:25. | |
Joining me now is Professor Yossi Mekleberg an associate fellow | :38:26. | :38:27. | |
for the Middle East and North Africa at the think tank Chatham House. | :38:28. | :38:30. | |
He's an expert in the politics and history of Israel. | :38:31. | :38:37. | |
Thank you all for joining us. , first of all, Yossi you worked with | :38:38. | :38:49. | |
him for many years, tell us what he was like. | :38:50. | :38:54. | |
First of all, I loved him, I loved this man. I was very close to him, | :38:55. | :39:02. | |
for many, many years. It was never boring to be with him. He was | :39:03. | :39:08. | |
unusually interesting. He always could tell you things that you never | :39:09. | :39:15. | |
knew about. He didn't like to waste time, which was our common | :39:16. | :39:22. | |
denominator. So, he liked to work, I liked to work. . We could do many | :39:23. | :39:30. | |
things together. What I can say about him is that he was curious in | :39:31. | :39:37. | |
an unusual way. I mean, it was not that he was only cure is in some | :39:38. | :39:40. | |
political issues, wanted to know about politics of other nations and | :39:41. | :39:45. | |
whatever -- only curious. He was curious about everything. Which was | :39:46. | :39:53. | |
difficult, for me. I was interested in many things, but not in | :39:54. | :39:58. | |
everything! But, sometimes he was like a child, wanting to know more | :39:59. | :40:02. | |
about everything. The last thing was his interest in the human brains. | :40:03. | :40:08. | |
And another thing, he knew he was a very important person. He had his | :40:09. | :40:15. | |
ego, no doubt. He had his self-confidence, no doubt. But he | :40:16. | :40:22. | |
was never ever smug. In the highest point of his career, when it felt | :40:23. | :40:29. | |
like he was exactly where he wanted to be, you could think that maybe | :40:30. | :40:35. | |
this is a moment in which he will allow himself to be a little bit | :40:36. | :40:40. | |
smug or cynical about others, to dismiss others it's never happened | :40:41. | :40:46. | |
to him. He was a politician who knew what he wanted, which is quite rare. | :40:47. | :40:54. | |
He had a very, very clear agenda. As an executive, he knew more than many | :40:55. | :41:00. | |
others how to get there. Both President Barack Obama and Bill | :41:01. | :41:05. | |
Clinton felt the need to address what some have described as naivete | :41:06. | :41:09. | |
in Shimon Peres, because of his desire for peace. They said he | :41:10. | :41:14. | |
absolutely was not naive, but he had that vision. How would you describe | :41:15. | :41:15. | |
him? First of all, there was naivete in | :41:16. | :41:24. | |
him. It is never, you know, black and white. That people are totally | :41:25. | :41:29. | |
cynical or totally naive. He was old enough and experienced enough not to | :41:30. | :41:33. | |
be a naive person, a dreamer, who is not connected to reality. But there | :41:34. | :41:40. | |
were points of naivete. Mainly about trust in people. Sometimes, I said | :41:41. | :41:46. | |
to him, Shimon, how can you trust this person? You know who he is. He | :41:47. | :41:53. | |
said, no, no, no, in everybody there is positive things. I believe he | :41:54. | :41:56. | |
said to me something like that, he will fulfil it. Sometimes he was | :41:57. | :42:03. | |
right. Sometimes he was wrong. But, there is no doubt that he was very | :42:04. | :42:11. | |
optimistic. Now, most of the wise people are pessimistic, in my view. | :42:12. | :42:15. | |
But, without optimism, you cannot achieve anything. Even if he knew | :42:16. | :42:22. | |
that in many cases he will not be able to implement what he wanted, he | :42:23. | :42:29. | |
understood that, as an optimist, you can believe that if you are doing | :42:30. | :42:33. | |
the right things, in your view, you can achieve your target. Or at least | :42:34. | :42:41. | |
get close to it. But if you are pessimistic, wise as much as you can | :42:42. | :42:45. | |
be wise, and you do not do things because you believe the chance is | :42:46. | :42:49. | |
not big, then, for sure, nothing will happen. As the years... That | :42:50. | :42:55. | |
was, perhaps, close to naivete. As the years went on and as he realised | :42:56. | :43:00. | |
what might hope happen after the Oslo accords might not happen, did | :43:01. | :43:05. | |
he grow close to disillusioned at all? No. On the one hand, we all | :43:06. | :43:11. | |
hoped that in five years, we could get to the permanent agreement. The | :43:12. | :43:17. | |
deadline was made 1999. Nothing happened under Netanyahu. Of course, | :43:18. | :43:23. | |
it created frustration. But, he did not give up. | :43:24. | :43:29. | |
He convinced us, the people who were his colleagues then, in the party or | :43:30. | :43:39. | |
others that you have to wait longer. Apparently. The fact that we did not | :43:40. | :43:44. | |
meet the deadline didn't mean that we are doomed and only we, Israelis, | :43:45. | :43:50. | |
will never have peace with our neighbours. He understood that | :43:51. | :43:56. | |
eventually it will happen because it is a mutual interest of the | :43:57. | :44:01. | |
Palestinians and of the Israelis. Because of the extremists on both | :44:02. | :44:04. | |
sides, it might take longer. But he never gave up. It was not because of | :44:05. | :44:13. | |
unusual strength or whatever, he just couldn't. He couldn't. Because | :44:14. | :44:17. | |
of being, if you wish, selfish, he could not give up on it and we could | :44:18. | :44:25. | |
not give up on it. Yaakov Katz editor in chief of the Jerusalem | :44:26. | :44:30. | |
Post, obviously, he had his ideals, optimism about peace, but it was | :44:31. | :44:34. | |
founded in a pragmatism for the protection of Israel. And he made | :44:35. | :44:39. | |
sure that Israel's defence industry was strong. No question about it. | :44:40. | :44:46. | |
Shimon Peres, I think is beyond just being about a founding father and | :44:47. | :44:49. | |
one of the members of the founding generation of the state of Israel in | :44:50. | :44:54. | |
having a hand in building the state. Mostly known for building the | :44:55. | :44:58. | |
military as we know today. He was the one who crafted the deal in the | :44:59. | :45:01. | |
midnight and 50s for Israel to obtain a nuclear reactor from the | :45:02. | :45:06. | |
French around the Suez crisis -- mid-19 50s. He opened the doors to | :45:07. | :45:11. | |
France to get France as Israel's main strategic partner and combat | :45:12. | :45:16. | |
air -- aircraft. Over the years, that was what he was known for, he | :45:17. | :45:20. | |
built up the Israel air space industries which is an international | :45:21. | :45:21. | |
conglomerate today. He is possibly the world leader when | :45:22. | :45:32. | |
it comes to drones, electronic warfare and other systems. You can | :45:33. | :45:36. | |
attribute those things to Shimon Peres. But, I think, at the same | :45:37. | :45:40. | |
time, you genuinely believe that a peace deal with the Palestinians and | :45:41. | :45:45. | |
the separation from them, the establishment of a Palestinian state | :45:46. | :45:50. | |
no doubt including the removal of many Israeli settlements in the West | :45:51. | :45:54. | |
back was part of the Israeli interest, part of a vision in | :45:55. | :46:00. | |
keeping Israel strong, ensuring its strength and survival in the face of | :46:01. | :46:04. | |
the multitude of threats and challenges it faces in the region. | :46:05. | :46:07. | |
That is what made him unique. On the one hand he was a hawk when it came | :46:08. | :46:12. | |
to Israeli security and military, but when you look at his vision of | :46:13. | :46:17. | |
the new Middle East, how Israel should separate from the | :46:18. | :46:20. | |
Palestinians and give them a state which is something that, let's say, | :46:21. | :46:23. | |
people on the right and even some members of the current Israeli | :46:24. | :46:27. | |
government believe is wrong and too dangerous, Peres would have argued | :46:28. | :46:34. | |
that this is part of the way of keeping Israel strong. It is part of | :46:35. | :46:37. | |
one overarching vision. Yaakov Katz, thank you for joining us. Dr Yossi | :46:38. | :46:44. | |
Beilin, I hope you can remain with us for a few minutes longer. With me | :46:45. | :46:51. | |
in the studio I have Professor Yossi Mekleberg from Regents University, | :46:52. | :46:57. | |
the director of social sciences. How did you see the legacy of Shimon | :46:58. | :47:02. | |
Peres? Gulp it is so difficult to talk about the legacy of someone who | :47:03. | :47:06. | |
was active politically in Israeli life for seven decades, just to sum | :47:07. | :47:13. | |
it up in a sentence. I think Dr Yossi Beilin express the complexity | :47:14. | :47:16. | |
of the man and the revolution of his thinking. He is the product of the | :47:17. | :47:23. | |
history that he lived, from the Holocaust and post-Holocaust and | :47:24. | :47:29. | |
independence, the Cold War, to globalisation. In many ways, he | :47:30. | :47:34. | |
evolved with the world and saw the changes. He had this intellectual | :47:35. | :47:38. | |
capacity that many politicians don't have, to change his mind and to | :47:39. | :47:43. | |
understand that it was right at a certain point but not necessarily | :47:44. | :47:48. | |
right at another point. So at one point it was red phase rail to be a | :47:49. | :47:56. | |
strong military power, -- it was right for Israel to be a strong | :47:57. | :48:00. | |
military power, but also to understand that this -- that of | :48:01. | :48:08. | |
Israel wants to stay... They need to extend the hand of peace towards the | :48:09. | :48:13. | |
Palestinians and acceptability within the region. I obviously did | :48:14. | :48:21. | |
not know Shimon Peres as well as Dr Yossi Beilin, but in the meeting of | :48:22. | :48:27. | |
a small British delegation you could see some of the dreams, but not a | :48:28. | :48:33. | |
daydreamer. It is a vision. When he talks... Why are you talking to me | :48:34. | :48:37. | |
about boulders, talk to me about the digital age. We need to talk about a | :48:38. | :48:43. | |
Middle East that is not a low-wage economy, people involved in hi-tech. | :48:44. | :48:47. | |
So it is this capacity of renewal that I have not seen in any other | :48:48. | :48:53. | |
politician. Dr Yossi Beilin, a man with the huge legacy, a man with the | :48:54. | :48:56. | |
enormous ability, as you have described. Why did he never win a | :48:57. | :49:05. | |
popular mandate at an election? Well, he won once in 84, he became | :49:06. | :49:22. | |
the Prime Minister. Then he got the real popular support. Otherwise, you | :49:23. | :49:27. | |
got 50% in 96, which was a tragedy. I believe that had he then be the | :49:28. | :49:31. | |
Prime Minister of Israel, we could have achieved peace with the | :49:32. | :49:37. | |
Palestinians by 1999. I think that what happened to him, if we talk | :49:38. | :49:41. | |
about popularity, is that he was very popular when he was a hawkish | :49:42. | :49:49. | |
leader in the Labour Party, because then he could get the support of one | :49:50. | :49:58. | |
of its leaders, and on the other hand the support of the | :49:59. | :50:03. | |
centre-right. When he moved in the 70s, 80s and, of course, the 90s, | :50:04. | :50:13. | |
them all dovish part of the political arena in Israel, he lost | :50:14. | :50:18. | |
the centre-right, and he was left with the centre-left and the left, | :50:19. | :50:22. | |
which made it very very difficult for him to win again. When he was | :50:23. | :50:31. | |
nominated as the leader of his party after the resignation of Yitzhak | :50:32. | :50:35. | |
Rabin and 77, he was nominated because he was the most popular | :50:36. | :50:42. | |
leader in that party, as a minister of defence who was considered a real | :50:43. | :50:47. | |
hawk. When he became dovish, at least in the perception of the | :50:48. | :50:52. | |
people, rightly so, I believe, you lost part of the support and | :50:53. | :50:58. | |
regained it only when he became president. And, in a way, he gave up | :50:59. | :51:04. | |
on actually speaking his mind loudly enough. Professor Yossi Mekleberg, | :51:05. | :51:15. | |
is that the eternal conundrum, effectively, in Israel, trying to | :51:16. | :51:19. | |
get the right balance between hawkish and being a dove, the need | :51:20. | :51:22. | |
for popular support and the desire for peace? You need to won an | :51:23. | :51:29. | |
election on a platform that you need to change completely your glove for | :51:30. | :51:35. | |
the sake of the country. But I think there is a way to combine, and | :51:36. | :51:41. | |
Shimon Peres managed to combine it for many years. It was not as | :51:42. | :51:45. | |
popular when he was a politician, then he became a father figure as a | :51:46. | :51:52. | |
president. But there is a real conundrum. I think it is wrong in | :51:53. | :51:57. | |
Israeli politics that you had to be very strong in negotiation. You have | :51:58. | :52:01. | |
to be strong negotiation but you need to have a strategy and a | :52:02. | :52:05. | |
long-term vision about peace, which the current Government 's not have. | :52:06. | :52:12. | |
I think Shimon Perez is the only politician in Israeli history that | :52:13. | :52:17. | |
has had both at the same time, the village -- the vision of strength, | :52:18. | :52:23. | |
but with the need to be generous in negotiations. I think at the end of | :52:24. | :52:30. | |
the day, more than it was Shimon Peres loss for not serving as Prime | :52:31. | :52:36. | |
Minister, it was the loss of the country. Thank you very much, Dr | :52:37. | :52:42. | |
Yossi Beilin. The body of Shimon Peres will be laid to rest in a | :52:43. | :52:45. | |
burial plots between Yitzhak Rabin and another former Prime Minister. | :52:46. | :52:52. | |
That'll be happening shortly. For now, we will leave injuries. -- will | :52:53. | :53:05. | |
leave events injuries. -- in Gerry Solano. | :53:06. | :53:08. | |
In around about two and a half hours, the Rosetta spacecraft | :53:09. | :53:12. | |
will crash land on a comet it has been orbiting for two years. | :53:13. | :53:15. | |
It'll bring to an end a twelve year mission by the European Space Agency | :53:16. | :53:18. | |
to try to gather data, which could eventually tell us how | :53:19. | :53:21. | |
It's pretty big stuff and since being launched into space, | :53:22. | :53:24. | |
Rosetta has travelled billions of miles. | :53:25. | :53:26. | |
It is sent back thousands of images and even landed a Robert onto the | :53:27. | :53:30. | |
surface of the comet. Now there is just the small matter of crushing | :53:31. | :53:32. | |
itself into a frozen peas of cosmic debris travelling through space at | :53:33. | :53:33. | |
around 30,000 miles an hour. Oh, I'm just so happy, | :53:34. | :53:38. | |
it's just wonderful! We've waited so long | :53:39. | :54:22. | |
and now it's happening! Let's talk now to Sarah | :54:23. | :54:56. | |
Cruddas, who's a space And Paul McMahon, he works | :54:57. | :54:58. | |
for Airbus which built the Rosetta spacecraft - he's responsible | :54:59. | :55:01. | |
for the 'reaction wheels' which basically control the movement | :55:02. | :55:03. | |
of it, and he had to fix them when they failed | :55:04. | :55:06. | |
on the other side of Jupiter. We will get you to explain how you | :55:07. | :55:15. | |
did that. Sarah, it has been described as you's moon landing | :55:16. | :55:20. | |
moment. Really? I think we take for granted how much we have done in | :55:21. | :55:25. | |
space, but we had an very little. We have not sent humans back to the | :55:26. | :55:29. | |
Moon" years, we have never landed on a comet until this mission happened. | :55:30. | :55:34. | |
It had an epic journey across the solar system. The technical | :55:35. | :55:40. | |
equivalent of this was landing a fly on a speeding bullet. At the moment, | :55:41. | :55:46. | |
the comet is moving at around 14 kilometres a second. We have managed | :55:47. | :55:49. | |
to send a spacecraft from Earth, which was dreams up in the | :55:50. | :55:54. | |
mid-1980s, send it to this comet, chase it across the solar system, | :55:55. | :55:58. | |
study how life might have come to be. Comets were around at the early | :55:59. | :56:03. | |
solar system we think they might have ceded a very young earth with | :56:04. | :56:07. | |
the potential ingredients for life. We are updating the jigsaw pieces | :56:08. | :56:10. | |
together and we have never done something like this before, it is an | :56:11. | :56:14. | |
Apollo moment in terms of exploration. It is great for Europe, | :56:15. | :56:19. | |
it is just huge ad incredible. Lots of people have worked very hard. It | :56:20. | :56:23. | |
was an expensive mission, but you get a lot of innovation and | :56:24. | :56:27. | |
technology back from. It is a game changeable to stop it is the next | :56:28. | :56:31. | |
piece in the jigsaw of asking the fundamental questions of who we are, | :56:32. | :56:37. | |
where we came from, why we exist, is there life beyond the solar system | :56:38. | :56:41. | |
and in the solar system? All these questions, extraordinary claims | :56:42. | :56:44. | |
require extraordinary evidence, as a MIDI wants that. We are piecing | :56:45. | :56:48. | |
together evidence to answer fundamental questions about our | :56:49. | :56:52. | |
existence. Paul, I said you are effectively responsible for the | :56:53. | :56:57. | |
wheels? There four reaction wheels on board Rosetta, used to point the | :56:58. | :57:00. | |
spacecraft whenever they want to image something or reorient the | :57:01. | :57:05. | |
spacecraft. There was a problem with them, and it is quite a long way | :57:06. | :57:12. | |
away?! After Rosetta flew past a comet in 2008, we noticed that the | :57:13. | :57:16. | |
friction that one of the wheels was increasing, so we had to work on it, | :57:17. | :57:20. | |
change the parameters, managed to really book eight it when it was | :57:21. | :57:25. | |
orbiting Jupiter, so that when it came out of hibernation in January | :57:26. | :57:29. | |
2014, it started at the wheels again, things were running much | :57:30. | :57:33. | |
better. If that had not been fixed, it would have been kaput? It would | :57:34. | :57:39. | |
not have been a kaput mission, but it would have been a degraded | :57:40. | :57:42. | |
mission. They could not have used the reaction wheels as they wanted, | :57:43. | :57:47. | |
they would have had to rely more on thrusters. Looking at the orbit of | :57:48. | :57:51. | |
Rosetta, it is a triangular shaped orbit. Every time the spacecraft | :57:52. | :57:59. | |
goes round one of the corners of the triangle, the reaction wheels rotate | :58:00. | :58:02. | |
the spacecraft and pointed in a new direction. They were working very, | :58:03. | :58:06. | |
very hard. Sarah, you have described what was | :58:07. | :58:10. | |
done as like landing a fly on a moving bullet, that brings it home | :58:11. | :58:14. | |
when you talk about that. In terms of what is being done today, why is | :58:15. | :58:20. | |
it being crashed into the comet? Its panels will not get enough energy or | :58:21. | :58:24. | |
heat from the sun to keep it away, because it is going so far away. It | :58:25. | :58:30. | |
could be sent to sleep. The comet orbits around the earth, it takes | :58:31. | :58:34. | |
about six years to orbit around the sun. We could put was that it sleep | :58:35. | :58:39. | |
and maybe wake it up, it probably would not wake up and it could just | :58:40. | :58:44. | |
end up as space junk, space debris. As humans we have always generated | :58:45. | :58:49. | |
waste. I am talking about colliding with a comet, it is the final piece | :58:50. | :58:54. | |
of science in the mission, I really interesting area where they will try | :58:55. | :58:57. | |
to land Rosetta. As soon as it collides we will not get further | :58:58. | :59:02. | |
communication, but we will get lots of closer pictures. This but they | :59:03. | :59:06. | |
have picked is rather flat, it is almost like goose bumps, embryos of | :59:07. | :59:13. | |
comments. It will help us understand more about how comets form. You hear | :59:14. | :59:17. | |
about words like solar systems, comets etc, but we don't know the | :59:18. | :59:22. | |
exact and says about many things, so it is helping along the way in terms | :59:23. | :59:27. | |
of science and potential. The amount of research and data and information | :59:28. | :59:32. | |
means that kids at school now who might be interested in space, if | :59:33. | :59:36. | |
they become a scientist in 20 or 30 years, they will be studying data | :59:37. | :59:45. | |
from this mission, so it is not over in terms of research and exciting | :59:46. | :59:46. | |
developments. Very cool, thank you. Get in touch | :59:47. | :59:51. | |
if you have any thoughts on that, now mat has the weather. | :59:52. | :59:57. | |
A cool breeze will bring in showers. They have been most frequent across | :59:58. | :00:03. | |
western area so far. If you will make towards the east in the | :00:04. | :00:08. | |
afternoon. Big gaps between some of the showers, many staying completely | :00:09. | :00:13. | |
dry through the day. Not far off yesterday's values, 12 to 19 | :00:14. | :00:18. | |
degrees. As showers go through you will notice a chill in the wind. | :00:19. | :00:22. | |
Showers continuing this evening, fading away from northern and | :00:23. | :00:26. | |
western parts, by and large. They get close to Wales and the later, | :00:27. | :00:33. | |
more showers pushing in and longer spells of rain. Into the start of | :00:34. | :00:36. | |
the weekend, eastern England, northern Scotland, Northern Ireland, | :00:37. | :00:40. | |
temperatures could be cold enough for frost in sunspots. | :00:41. | :00:46. | |
Saturday is a story of two Hobbs, Scotland, Northern Ireland and | :00:47. | :00:50. | |
northern England, not many showers. Wales Midlands, East Anglia and | :00:51. | :00:54. | |
seven counties, generally cloudy with outbreaks of rain. Temperatures | :00:55. | :00:59. | |
around 11 or 12 Celsius. A few brighter spells between the showers | :01:00. | :01:04. | |
later, generally a cool day. Shallots fade away through Saturday, | :01:05. | :01:08. | |
lasting longer into the night through East Anglia and the | :01:09. | :01:12. | |
south-east. -- showers fade away through Saturday. Frost around | :01:13. | :01:17. | |
Scotland, Northern Ireland, parts of north-west England, a lovely, | :01:18. | :01:19. | |
autumnal day nonetheless. I'm back at 11am. | :01:20. | :01:23. | |
Good morning, I'm Joanna Gosling, it's 10am. | :01:24. | :01:25. | |
World leaders have been paying tribute to Israel's former | :01:26. | :01:27. | |
Prince Charles and Boris Johnson are amongst the hundreds of people | :01:28. | :01:30. | |
US President Barack Obama gave a 20 minute eulogy. | :01:31. | :01:36. | |
Shimon accomplished enough things in his life for a 1000 men. | :01:37. | :01:43. | |
But he understood that it's better to live to the very end | :01:44. | :01:46. | |
of his time on Earth, not with a longing for the past, | :01:47. | :01:49. | |
but for the dreams that have not yet come true. | :01:50. | :01:51. | |
The end is nigh for the spacecraft Rosetta, | :01:52. | :01:55. | |
as it prepares to crash-land into the comet it's been studying | :01:56. | :01:57. | |
We are live at the European Space Agency. | :01:58. | :02:02. | |
And later, a drug charity says it's saved hundreds of lives | :02:03. | :02:04. | |
It's a year since a change in the law made it possible | :02:05. | :02:08. | |
for an heroin antidote to be given out to friends and relatives to use | :02:09. | :02:12. | |
on addicts who are in danger of overdosing. | :02:13. | :02:23. | |
Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news. | :02:24. | :02:28. | |
Leaders from around the world are gathered in Jerusalem this | :02:29. | :02:33. | |
morning to pay their final respects to Israel's former President | :02:34. | :02:36. | |
The 93-year-old Nobel Peace Prize winner suffered a stroke, two weeks | :02:37. | :02:40. | |
Prince Charles and Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson are among those | :02:41. | :02:54. | |
attending the funeral in Jerusalem. The American President, Barack Obama | :02:55. | :03:00. | |
paid tribute to Peres as a man of conviction and faith. | :03:01. | :03:02. | |
Shimon could be true to his convictions, even if they cut | :03:03. | :03:05. | |
against the grain of current opinion. | :03:06. | :03:09. | |
He knew better than the cynic that if you look out | :03:10. | :03:12. | |
over the arc of history, human beings should be filled not | :03:13. | :03:15. | |
I'm sure that's why he was so excited about technology, | :03:16. | :03:26. | |
because, for him, it symbolised the march of human progress. | :03:27. | :03:29. | |
And it's why he loved, so much, to talk about young people. | :03:30. | :03:34. | |
Because he saw young people unburdened by | :03:35. | :03:36. | |
Because, in Israel, he saw a miracle come true. | :03:37. | :03:55. | |
It's one of the most daring missions ever undertaken by a spacecraft, | :03:56. | :03:58. | |
but the 12-year journey by the Rosetta probe | :03:59. | :04:00. | |
In a few hours, it will be deliberately crashed into the comet | :04:01. | :04:04. | |
67P, which it has been tracking for the past two years. | :04:05. | :04:07. | |
Rosetta is so far out in space that its solar powered | :04:08. | :04:10. | |
instruments are failing, but scientists say its findings will | :04:11. | :04:12. | |
The most senior lawyer working for the independent inquiry | :04:13. | :04:18. | |
into historical allegations of child sex abuse has resigned. | :04:19. | :04:21. | |
Ben Emmerson, who was suspended from the inquiry yesterday | :04:22. | :04:23. | |
after what were said to be questions about his leadership, | :04:24. | :04:25. | |
has denied falling out with the chairwoman, | :04:26. | :04:27. | |
The investigation was formally set up 18 months ago | :04:28. | :04:33. | |
to look at failures by institutions, such as schools and hospitals, | :04:34. | :04:35. | |
to protect children in England and Wales. | :04:36. | :04:37. | |
Questions have been raised about the inquiry's future, | :04:38. | :04:39. | |
but the Prime Minister Theresa May has defended its work. | :04:40. | :04:47. | |
The assistant manager of Southampton Football Club has | :04:48. | :04:49. | |
become the latest figure implicated in the Daily Telegraph's | :04:50. | :04:51. | |
investigation into football corruption. | :04:52. | :04:53. | |
The paper says Eric Black has been secretly filmed allegedly advising | :04:54. | :04:55. | |
undercover reporters how to bribe staff at lower league clubs. | :04:56. | :04:57. | |
A spokesperson for Southampton said the club was investigating | :04:58. | :05:00. | |
The Chief Constable of South Yorkshire Police has said | :05:01. | :05:09. | |
he'll take legal action after the region's Police | :05:10. | :05:11. | |
and Crime Commissioner asked him to resign. | :05:12. | :05:14. | |
David Crompton was suspended from his role following | :05:15. | :05:16. | |
the Hillsborough inquest verdicts in April. | :05:17. | :05:18. | |
The PCC Alan Billings says he should quit because he had led a force that | :05:19. | :05:21. | |
put its own reputation first before considering victims. | :05:22. | :05:23. | |
Mr Crompton says he'll challenge that in the high court. | :05:24. | :05:26. | |
Mr Crompton says he'll challenge that in the High Court. | :05:27. | :05:35. | |
Shares in Deutsche Bank, Europe's second-largest lender, | :05:36. | :05:37. | |
have fallen sharply amid reports that some hedge funds | :05:38. | :05:39. | |
There have been questions about the bank's stability, | :05:40. | :05:44. | |
since news emerged that it is facing a penalty of up to $14 billion | :05:45. | :05:47. | |
in the US for mis-selling mortgage-backed securities. | :05:48. | :05:55. | |
Police searching for the missing toddler Ben Needham on the Greek | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
island of Kos have been asked to call off their work, | :06:01. | :06:04. | |
by the owner of the land they are digging up. | :06:05. | :06:07. | |
It follows the announcement yesterday that a number of graves | :06:08. | :06:12. | |
dating back 1,500 years had been found on the site | :06:13. | :06:14. | |
where it is believed Ben Needham went missing more | :06:15. | :06:17. | |
Our correspondent, Danny Savage, is in Kos with the latest. | :06:18. | :06:20. | |
Well, this is the search site in Kos for the investigation into the | :06:21. | :06:23. | |
For the time being, work is continuing as normal. | :06:24. | :06:31. | |
We have a digger outlying strips of dirt, which has been dug | :06:32. | :06:34. | |
up from a neighbouring olive grove and once they are out, searchers | :06:35. | :06:37. | |
will come through them with rakes, to see if they can find anything of | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
How long work will continue here, like this, is a bit | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
Because, you can see them continuing to dig over here, where the cesspit | :06:45. | :06:50. | |
They're continuing to dig there, to see if they can find any evidence. | :06:51. | :06:59. | |
But, beyond there, yesterday, a number of graves were found. | :07:00. | :07:02. | |
Four or five adults, dating back some 1,500 years. | :07:03. | :07:04. | |
The landowner, we understand, has approached South Yorkshire Police | :07:05. | :07:11. | |
and asked them to stop work in that olive grove, which is the focus | :07:12. | :07:15. | |
All the earth being searched through here is coming from that field | :07:16. | :07:20. | |
beyond this house, which is where Ben Needham was last seen alive. | :07:21. | :07:23. | |
If the work stops there, that will cause serious issues | :07:24. | :07:25. | |
for the British police, here, because this is day | :07:26. | :07:28. | |
They found nothing of significance, so far and | :07:29. | :07:35. | |
if they have to stop, it could jeopardise | :07:36. | :07:37. | |
So, in the last few minutes, Jon Cousins, the senior | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
investigating officer from South Yorkshire Police has headed off down | :07:41. | :07:43. | |
to the local magistrates to see if he can clarify the | :07:44. | :07:45. | |
He says this work is too important to have to stop now. | :07:46. | :07:51. | |
It's important to Ben Needham's family, | :07:52. | :07:52. | |
Determination from South Yorkshire Police to continue this | :07:53. | :07:57. | |
investigation on this Greek island but will it fall victim to the legal | :07:58. | :08:00. | |
process here and the very strict rules regarding the discovery of | :08:01. | :08:02. | |
archaeological remains, which have been found, here? | :08:03. | :08:16. | |
If you're in your 30s, you're probably only half as wealthy | :08:17. | :08:19. | |
as someone who is now in their 40s was, at the same age. | :08:20. | :08:22. | |
That's according to research from the Institute for Fiscal Studies | :08:23. | :08:25. | |
that found people in their early 30s now have an average net household | :08:26. | :08:29. | |
wealth of ?27,000 per adult compared to ?53,000 for those born | :08:30. | :08:32. | |
in the 1970s when they were at the same stage. | :08:33. | :08:34. | |
The study found the property boom and generous pensions | :08:35. | :08:35. | |
Making the best of it, but this is the generation | :08:36. | :08:37. | |
Early-30s, struggling to get on the housing ladder, | :08:38. | :08:42. | |
shelling out for rent, instead of a pension. | :08:43. | :08:47. | |
It was very much everyone was spending on credit cards that | :08:48. | :08:50. | |
were limitless, and people could get another one and another one. | :08:51. | :08:53. | |
And I think people didn't think they needed a plan, really. | :08:54. | :08:55. | |
And I grew up in that scenario, as a little boy. | :08:56. | :09:00. | |
It is hard to try and get a place of my own, as well, as it is. | :09:01. | :09:06. | |
I'd like to get to maybe house-sharing stage, | :09:07. | :09:08. | |
or renting, but I think that what is the norm now is renting. | :09:09. | :09:11. | |
It's getting a lot more like Europe, I think. | :09:12. | :09:13. | |
I think it's becoming a bit of a daydream, | :09:14. | :09:15. | |
The stark numbers are that the average wealth of this | :09:16. | :09:21. | |
group, born in the early 1980s, is ?27,000 each, including home | :09:22. | :09:24. | |
and savings, while those only ten years old had wealth by the same | :09:25. | :09:27. | |
stage in their lives of ?53,000, helped by house prices and the value | :09:28. | :09:30. | |
If we look across the country as a whole, on average, those born | :09:31. | :09:40. | |
in the '80s have half the wealth of those | :09:41. | :09:42. | |
born ten years earlier did, at the same age. | :09:43. | :09:45. | |
And when we look at their incomes, they look about the same. | :09:46. | :09:48. | |
But renters are spending a bigger share of their | :09:49. | :09:50. | |
That bigger share, who don't own a home. | :09:51. | :09:56. | |
That's crucial, because young adults now paying high rents | :09:57. | :10:00. | |
are watching older generations pull far ahead, as far | :10:01. | :10:02. | |
And, when they're older, they're likely to have stingier | :10:03. | :10:05. | |
A 28-year-old man has appeared in court | :10:06. | :10:26. | |
charged with the murders of two shopworkers in Cardiff | :10:27. | :10:28. | |
Andrew Patrick Saunders spoke to confirm his name, | :10:29. | :10:31. | |
He was remanded in custody and will appear before crown court | :10:32. | :10:35. | |
Prince George and Princess Charlotte were the star guests at a children's | :10:36. | :10:44. | |
tea party in Canada on the latest leg of the Royal | :10:45. | :10:47. | |
The grounds of Government House, the home of the Lieutenant Governor | :10:48. | :10:50. | |
of British Columbia, was the venue for the event, | :10:51. | :10:52. | |
which featured balloons, a petting zoo, and miniature ponies. | :10:53. | :10:55. | |
Our Royal Correspondent Peter Hunt reports. | :10:56. | :10:58. | |
A lifetime of waving and welcoming awaits 16-month-old | :10:59. | :11:04. | |
Princess Charlotte, but for now, fun, not formality, is the focus. | :11:05. | :11:13. | |
Pop, she says, as she tries her hardest to do just that. | :11:14. | :11:17. | |
For the Prince, another attraction is here. | :11:18. | :11:30. | |
It will gladden his great grandmother, though | :11:31. | :11:42. | |
the Queen may wish he stayed astride for longer. | :11:43. | :11:45. | |
It's much more fun as a toddler squirting bubbles at your dad. | :11:46. | :11:48. | |
Even if he is the future king of Canada and the UK. | :11:49. | :11:52. | |
A children's party can be a mesmerising affair. | :11:53. | :11:54. | |
For Charlotte, though, there's one part of it | :11:55. | :11:56. | |
Balloons are the way to this Princess's heart, | :11:57. | :12:03. | |
and an entertainer was here to indulge her in the grounds | :12:04. | :12:06. | |
of Government House, where the other guests | :12:07. | :12:15. | |
Royal sibling rivalry is alive and well. | :12:16. | :12:20. | |
It's rare to see Prince George and Princess Charlotte. | :12:21. | :12:22. | |
William and Kate are determined their children grow up in private | :12:23. | :12:27. | |
Peter Hunt, BBC News, Victoria, British Columbia. | :12:28. | :12:35. | |
Italian police have recovered two Van Gogh paintings that | :12:36. | :12:37. | |
They are the 1882 work Seascape at Scheveningen and a later work, | :12:38. | :12:43. | |
Congregation leaving the Reformed Church in Nuenen. | :12:44. | :12:45. | |
Police in Naples discovered the paintings during | :12:46. | :12:47. | |
Pandas are notoriously reluctant to reproduce but one breeding centre | :12:48. | :12:55. | |
in South West China is having a bumper year. | :12:56. | :12:58. | |
23 baby pandas have made their public debut in Cheng-du. | :12:59. | :13:01. | |
Since it was set up nearly 30 years ago, the centre has | :13:02. | :13:04. | |
bred 176 giant pandas, the world's largest | :13:05. | :13:06. | |
artificially-bred giant panda population. | :13:07. | :13:18. | |
I don't know how much they've bumped up the world panda population but by | :13:19. | :13:22. | |
quite a lot, I think. That's a summary of the latest BBC | :13:23. | :13:24. | |
News, more at 10:30am. Thank you, certainly scoring very | :13:25. | :13:29. | |
high on the cuteness factor. So sure was Darren Clarke | :13:30. | :13:37. | |
about his opening pairing for the Ryder Cup that he had | :13:38. | :13:40. | |
decided on them even before He's chosen two golfers who had | :13:41. | :13:43. | |
a 100% record two years ago They are Justin Rose, | :13:44. | :13:47. | |
the Olympic champion being introduced to the crowd | :13:48. | :13:50. | |
at the opening ceremony last night, and Henrik Stenson, | :13:51. | :13:52. | |
the Open champion. They'll take on Jordan Spieth | :13:53. | :13:57. | |
and Patrick Reed at just One player that has to wait | :13:58. | :13:59. | |
until later is Danny Willett. The Masters champion isn't part | :14:00. | :14:07. | |
of the foursomes, but, according to his captain, | :14:08. | :14:09. | |
not because of what his brother said in his recent magazine column | :14:10. | :14:12. | |
when he described the American fans When I had to explain to the guys, | :14:13. | :14:25. | |
tell the guys who are not playing tomorrow morning, they are all | :14:26. | :14:27. | |
playing well and are disappointed they are not playing but there is a | :14:28. | :14:31. | |
reason behind it. I have a plan, what I will try to execute, this | :14:32. | :14:36. | |
week. Danny is fine, he's ready to go, he wants to play. He's like all | :14:37. | :14:40. | |
the guys, he's disappointed he's not playing in the morning but he | :14:41. | :14:44. | |
understands what I am trying to do is for the team. There is no | :14:45. | :14:49. | |
individual in our 12. It's about the team. | :14:50. | :14:51. | |
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has said it is possible he could one day | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
manage England if he had no club commitments. | :14:56. | :14:56. | |
His contract at the Emirates runs out at the end of the season, | :14:57. | :15:00. | |
and England are looking for a new manager after | :15:01. | :15:02. | |
Gareth Southgate will see them through the next four matches. | :15:03. | :15:09. | |
After a week of three defeats in a row, Manchester United have | :15:10. | :15:12. | |
now won three in a row, and they're off the bottom | :15:13. | :15:14. | |
of their Europa League group thanks to a 1-0 win over the Ukrainian side | :15:15. | :15:18. | |
United had 70% of the ball but it took until the 70th | :15:19. | :15:21. | |
minute to have their first effort on target. | :15:22. | :15:24. | |
And Zlatan Ibrahimovic tucked it away after | :15:25. | :15:26. | |
It's been confirmed Rooney will stay on as England captain, | :15:27. | :15:33. | |
but Jose Mourinho decided to leave him on the bench again | :15:34. | :15:35. | |
for the club's first European win of the season. | :15:36. | :15:45. | |
Southampton are top of their Europa League group | :15:46. | :15:47. | |
after picking up a point against Israeli champions | :15:48. | :15:49. | |
Virgil Van Dyke had a great early chance for Saints but his header | :15:50. | :15:55. | |
almost resulted in a throw in, somewhat summing up a terrible game. | :15:56. | :16:00. | |
It finished goalless, and both sides have four points in Group K. | :16:01. | :16:05. | |
Lewis Hamilton says he needs to drive better in Malaysia this | :16:06. | :16:08. | |
weekend to get his world title campaign back on track. | :16:09. | :16:10. | |
And he did just that, clocking the quickest time | :16:11. | :16:12. | |
of the day in second practice at Sepang. | :16:13. | :16:14. | |
He was almost a quarter of a second ahead of his Mercedes | :16:15. | :16:17. | |
team mate Nico Rosberg, who leads the drivers' championship | :16:18. | :16:19. | |
But the most dramatic moment of the day involved Kevin Magnussen. | :16:20. | :16:32. | |
The Dane was fortunate to escape unharmed when his Renault caught | :16:33. | :16:34. | |
It took several attempts by his mechanics to put it out | :16:35. | :16:38. | |
Back at the Ryder Cup there is always a lot | :16:39. | :16:41. | |
of passion shown by the fans, who often think | :16:42. | :16:43. | |
Well, there's one who actually could. | :16:44. | :16:47. | |
Rory McIlroy and Andy Sullivan had a few attempts at a 12-foot | :16:48. | :16:50. | |
putt on the 8th hole and missed every time. | :16:51. | :16:52. | |
There came a heckle from the crowd and Henrik Stenson told fan | :16:53. | :16:56. | |
David Johnson, "Come on, then, you have a go!" | :16:57. | :17:00. | |
Justin Rose made it interesting, putting $100 dollars next | :17:01. | :17:04. | |
to the ball, and Johnson drilled it into the hole. | :17:05. | :17:13. | |
He celebrated in just the way you would expect an American fan to | :17:14. | :17:27. | |
celebrate at the Ryder Cup. Back to you, Joanna | :17:28. | :17:29. | |
That is great, thank you. In around about two and a half | :17:30. | :17:31. | |
hours, the Rosetta spacecraft will crash land on the comet it has | :17:32. | :17:35. | |
been orbiting and studying It'll bring an end to | :17:36. | :17:37. | |
an amazing 12-year mission by the European Space Agency | :17:38. | :17:41. | |
to try to gather data from the comet data, which could help us discover | :17:42. | :17:44. | |
how our solar system was created. Since being launched into space, | :17:45. | :17:47. | |
Rosetta has travelled billions of miles, sent back thousands | :17:48. | :17:49. | |
of images and even landed a robot Now there's just the small matter | :17:50. | :17:52. | |
of crashing itself, at something approaching walking pace speed, | :17:53. | :17:56. | |
into a frozen piece of cosmic debris travelling through space | :17:57. | :17:59. | |
at about 30,000 miles an hour. We can speak to Rebecca Morelle, our | :18:00. | :18:15. | |
correspondent at mission control in Germany. It is almost over for | :18:16. | :18:21. | |
Rosetta, tell us about how they are feeling? Not too long to go. The | :18:22. | :18:26. | |
Rosetta spacecraft is currently in freefall, heading for a gentle | :18:27. | :18:32. | |
collision. It will not be an explosive impact with the surface of | :18:33. | :18:36. | |
the comet, but it will finish the spacecraft. There is a mix of | :18:37. | :18:40. | |
emotions from the team. There is the pride in what the mission has | :18:41. | :18:44. | |
achieved, it was conceived in the 1980s, the idea to do this. It is | :18:45. | :18:51. | |
one of the most bold and, in some ways, bonkers space missions ever | :18:52. | :18:56. | |
attempted. The idea of hunting a comet down that speeding through the | :18:57. | :19:00. | |
solar system, take ten years to get there, put a spacecraft in orbit | :19:01. | :19:04. | |
around it, land something on that. But all things had to come to an | :19:05. | :19:09. | |
end, so pride and then sadness. But rather than letting the spacecraft | :19:10. | :19:12. | |
fade into oblivion, because the problem is that the comet is moving | :19:13. | :19:17. | |
away from the sun at the moment and resented his solar powered, it will | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
run out of power a eventually. -- and Rosetta is solar powered. So | :19:22. | :19:30. | |
they are dumping it on the surface of the comet, where it will remain | :19:31. | :19:33. | |
for a very long time to come. There is real sadness from the team, one | :19:34. | :19:36. | |
of the scientists I spoke to had a pack of tissues, he said he has | :19:37. | :19:40. | |
cried at every stage so will be crying at the end of the mission. A | :19:41. | :19:46. | |
real mix at Mission HQ. It has cost a huge amount, troubled | :19:47. | :19:51. | |
a huge distance, what has been achieved? What is known now that was | :19:52. | :19:59. | |
not known before Rosetta's mission? The mission has totally transformed | :20:00. | :20:04. | |
our understanding of comets. We knew that comets were balls of ice and | :20:05. | :20:09. | |
dust whizzing around the solar system. But when you look at the | :20:10. | :20:13. | |
first images that came back, the shape and the geological complexity, | :20:14. | :20:18. | |
the mountains on the surface, the cracks, the boulders the size of | :20:19. | :20:22. | |
houses, it is a really interesting place just to look at, for starters. | :20:23. | :20:28. | |
Comets are really imparted to study, they are relics from the dawn of the | :20:29. | :20:32. | |
solar system -- really important to study. They are practically | :20:33. | :20:37. | |
unchanged for 4.6 billion years. If you can get onto the surface of a | :20:38. | :20:43. | |
comet and study it in detail, like the Philae robot did, it is like a | :20:44. | :20:50. | |
time capsule. We found out that the comet has chemicals on their recent | :20:51. | :20:54. | |
to life, so there is an idea that a crash landing from a comet into the | :20:55. | :20:59. | |
earth delivered to these chemicals here and kick-started life here. If | :21:00. | :21:04. | |
you find these things, you can find about the origins of planets, | :21:05. | :21:08. | |
origins of the Earth and our origin, too. The observations will stop, but | :21:09. | :21:13. | |
scientists recommend have enough to keep them busy for decades to come. | :21:14. | :21:19. | |
Joining the dots from what you describe as a relic from the dawn of | :21:20. | :21:26. | |
the solar system to how planets became, there is a huge amount of | :21:27. | :21:31. | |
distance between those two. How on earth do you join those dots? What | :21:32. | :21:40. | |
happens now? Basically, the idea is that you just have a bucket load of | :21:41. | :21:45. | |
data. The two years that the Rosetta spacecraft has been orbiting the | :21:46. | :21:49. | |
comet, there are 11 instruments are. It has recorded the gases coming | :21:50. | :21:54. | |
off, the chemical make-up, the temperature. The magnetic field | :21:55. | :21:59. | |
around it. That sort of thing. And also the data that came back from | :22:00. | :22:04. | |
Philae. But then you had to take it back and study, it will take time. | :22:05. | :22:09. | |
You need to find out what is there and how it fits together. We have | :22:10. | :22:13. | |
models of what happened at the very start up the solar system. If you | :22:14. | :22:18. | |
have the raw material, you can chuck that information into those models | :22:19. | :22:21. | |
and that will give you a better idea of what happened. The science is one | :22:22. | :22:27. | |
legacy of this. One thing is how it has captured the public's | :22:28. | :22:31. | |
imagination. This is a robotic mission. People have an affinity | :22:32. | :22:35. | |
with the spacecraft that went down two years ago. There must have been | :22:36. | :22:38. | |
kids there watching their coverage couple of years ago of the Philae | :22:39. | :22:44. | |
landing thinking that being a scientist sounds really quite fun | :22:45. | :22:50. | |
and interesting as a job, so there is also that and the ambition of | :22:51. | :22:53. | |
this. The mission goes to show that you can have really bold ideas, | :22:54. | :22:58. | |
hunting down a comet, getting to orbit around it, landing on it costs | :22:59. | :23:02. | |
a lot of money. It takes a lot of guts to do it. It might have gone | :23:03. | :23:06. | |
horribly wrong. If you have these big ideas and you can achieve them, | :23:07. | :23:12. | |
that is also fantastic. That will be important for the space missions to | :23:13. | :23:18. | |
come into in the future. The Rosetta mission has held up exactly what you | :23:19. | :23:21. | |
can do in terms of space science, that will be a real legacy. Thank | :23:22. | :23:24. | |
you, Rebecca. A short time ago I spoke to Paul | :23:25. | :23:42. | |
McMahon, who built the wheels on the Rosetta. | :23:43. | :23:44. | |
There are four reaction wheels which are used | :23:45. | :23:45. | |
to point the spacecraft where they want to image something | :23:46. | :23:48. | |
or re-orientate the spacecraft on a new trajectory. | :23:49. | :23:50. | |
There was a problem with them, wasn't there? | :23:51. | :23:52. | |
What a long way away, explain what happened. | :23:53. | :23:54. | |
After Rosetta flew past, comet is in 2008, we noticed | :23:55. | :23:56. | |
that the friction on one of the wheels was increasing, | :23:57. | :23:58. | |
We changed some of the parameters and we managed to read lubricated | :23:59. | :24:01. | |
-- really lubricate it while it was out by Jupiter. | :24:02. | :24:11. | |
So that when it came out of hibernation, in January, 2014, | :24:12. | :24:13. | |
they started up the wheels again and things were running much better. | :24:14. | :24:16. | |
So, presumably, that was fundamental. | :24:17. | :24:18. | |
If that hadn't have been fixed that would have been kaput? | :24:19. | :24:20. | |
No, it would not have been kaput to the mission, | :24:21. | :24:23. | |
but it would it would have been a degraded mission | :24:24. | :24:25. | |
because they would not have been able to use the reaction wheels | :24:26. | :24:28. | |
They would have had to rely more on the thrusters. | :24:29. | :24:31. | |
If you look at the orbit of Rosetta round the comment, | :24:32. | :24:34. | |
basically a triangular-shaped orbit, every time the spacecraft goes | :24:35. | :24:36. | |
round one of the corners of the triangle, the reaction wheels | :24:37. | :24:39. | |
and rotate the space craft and point it in a new direction, | :24:40. | :24:42. | |
Let's talk to Monica Grady, who joins us from Darmstadt. | :24:43. | :24:49. | |
She's a Professor of Planetary and Space Science at | :24:50. | :24:51. | |
the Open University, based at the European Space Agency. | :24:52. | :24:56. | |
Thank you very much for joining us. Before I ask how you are feeling, I | :24:57. | :25:03. | |
want to just show everyone how you are feeling and reacting two years | :25:04. | :25:07. | |
ago when the Rosetta dropped the Philae lander on the comet. | :25:08. | :25:10. | |
I think you were quite excited. I was mildly pleased, yes. What has | :25:11. | :25:44. | |
got you so excited about this mission? I have been involved with | :25:45. | :25:49. | |
it for a long time. I was looking to day as a picture that was drawn of | :25:50. | :25:56. | |
the instrument that I have been associated with, it was run in 1993. | :25:57. | :26:02. | |
This is the first schematic diagram. I have been looking into the science | :26:03. | :26:05. | |
of comets since well before then. To go through the journey of Rosetta | :26:06. | :26:12. | |
and the Philae, of course, and come to the end, it has been huge part of | :26:13. | :26:17. | |
my scientific career. Our science correspondent Rebecca said it was a | :26:18. | :26:21. | |
bold and bonkers project. Did you ever think it would be possible to | :26:22. | :26:25. | |
achieve what has been achieved, landing a probe on a comet? | :26:26. | :26:31. | |
I take issue with the bonkers. It was certainly bold. You don't start | :26:32. | :26:37. | |
out a mission thinking that you will not be able to achieve it, you | :26:38. | :26:42. | |
started thinking, yes, actually, it is really well planned, the | :26:43. | :26:46. | |
engineers know what they are doing. Then something goes wrong like, oh, | :26:47. | :26:51. | |
crikey, the launch was postponed for a year. And you have to look for | :26:52. | :26:54. | |
another commentary target, which is what happened. And you think, OK, we | :26:55. | :27:01. | |
have not had quite the information that we need. But it has been | :27:02. | :27:06. | |
fantastic to trouble for 8 billion kilometres or whatever it is, a huge | :27:07. | :27:10. | |
number of kilometres, and do the things that the Rosetta spacecraft | :27:11. | :27:16. | |
has done, it is an enormous project and has been a huge success. | :27:17. | :27:21. | |
With something that is so outside of the thinking of most of us, it has | :27:22. | :27:26. | |
been hard to grapple with how significant this is and what has | :27:27. | :27:32. | |
been achieved in terms of technically and everything else. | :27:33. | :27:37. | |
Just try to encapsulate that for us? Technically, the landing of Philae | :27:38. | :27:43. | |
on the comet was almost successful. It landed on its side instead of its | :27:44. | :27:48. | |
legs. It achieved most of its objective. You had to think about | :27:49. | :27:55. | |
the communications. I'm talking to you from Darmstadt in Germany, I can | :27:56. | :27:59. | |
hear a tiny delay on the line. Imagine trying to talk to me if the | :28:00. | :28:03. | |
delay was 20 minutes, which is what it is between here and Rosetta. You | :28:04. | :28:08. | |
can't have a proper conversation, so you have to send a packet of | :28:09. | :28:12. | |
instructions and wait for something to happen. All that programming has | :28:13. | :28:17. | |
to be done in advance. The fact that the instruments worked as well as | :28:18. | :28:22. | |
they did with each other on very, very low amounts of power, it has | :28:23. | :28:26. | |
been a wonderfully cooperative venture with all these scientists | :28:27. | :28:32. | |
throughout Europe. And to come together and then get different data | :28:33. | :28:37. | |
from the different instruments and then talk about the data together | :28:38. | :28:41. | |
and collaborate, to build up a much more complete picture of a comet, | :28:42. | :28:46. | |
which is overturning the other models we have had in the past of a | :28:47. | :28:52. | |
comet, it has just been wonderful. What have you learned, then? We have | :28:53. | :29:01. | |
learned about what the comet is made from, we have seen the composition | :29:02. | :29:05. | |
is perhaps slightly different from what we thought in terms of the | :29:06. | :29:09. | |
minerals. Certainly with the water and the ice, the hydrogen in the | :29:10. | :29:15. | |
water is different from how we would have predicted it to be, knowing | :29:16. | :29:19. | |
what we do about the hydrogen in the sun and on the earth. So we had to | :29:20. | :29:24. | |
think a lot about what happened to the water when the solar system was | :29:25. | :29:29. | |
forming. Of course, we have found all these building blocks, the | :29:30. | :29:33. | |
glycine, the sugars, these really important molecules essential for | :29:34. | :29:37. | |
life. We have found those. I think the most fascinating thing is the | :29:38. | :29:41. | |
images. When you look at these images, as Rebecca said a minute | :29:42. | :29:49. | |
ago, the chasms, they appear to be strata, they look like riverbeds and | :29:50. | :29:53. | |
grey seal valleys. They are not. You try to interpret them in terms of | :29:54. | :29:57. | |
terrestrial processes, and you can't. It has built a new science | :29:58. | :30:04. | |
of, tree morphology, which is interpreting these landforms. That | :30:05. | :30:08. | |
is so important and so interesting -- a new science of comet | :30:09. | :30:12. | |
morphology. They will apply to all sorts of bodies in the solar | :30:13. | :30:18. | |
systems, moons around other planets, Pluto, asteroids. It is the | :30:19. | :30:25. | |
beginning. The mission, the data collection part of the mission is | :30:26. | :30:31. | |
over, but the data reduction and interpretation and understanding and | :30:32. | :30:35. | |
application has only just started. Thank you very much, Monica. | :30:36. | :30:39. | |
As Italian police recover two stolen Van Goghs, | :30:40. | :30:42. | |
during an anti-mafia raid, we will get the latest on what happened | :30:43. | :30:45. | |
Stolen from an Amsterdam museum in 2002. | :30:46. | :30:52. | |
And research suggests if you're in your thirties you're probably | :30:53. | :30:54. | |
only half as wealthy as someone who is now in their 40s | :30:55. | :30:57. | |
We'll talk to the lead researcher about why this is the case. | :30:58. | :31:10. | |
Let's catch up with all the news with Anita. | :31:11. | :31:14. | |
Leaders from around the world are gathered in Jerusalem this | :31:15. | :31:16. | |
morning to pay their final respects to Israel's former President | :31:17. | :31:19. | |
The 93-year-old Nobel Peace Prize winner suffered a stroke, two weeks | :31:20. | :31:22. | |
President Obama and Prince Charles were among those attending the | :31:23. | :31:35. | |
funeral. Former American President Bill Clinton paid tribute as a man | :31:36. | :31:38. | |
who dared to dream. His critics often claimed | :31:39. | :31:43. | |
he was a naive, overly They were only wrong | :31:44. | :31:45. | |
about the naive part. He knew exactly what he was doing, | :31:46. | :31:50. | |
in being overly optimistic. He knew exactly what he was | :31:51. | :31:55. | |
doing, with his dreams. A 23-year-old man has | :31:56. | :32:02. | |
admitted causing the deaths of a boy and his aunt, | :32:03. | :32:05. | |
who were hit by a car being chased by police | :32:06. | :32:07. | |
in south-east London in August. Makayah McDermott and Rosie Cooper | :32:08. | :32:11. | |
were walking along a road Joshua Dobby, of no fixed abode, | :32:12. | :32:13. | |
acknowledged the "pain and suffering" he caused, | :32:14. | :32:18. | |
but has denied manslaughter charges It's one of the most daring missions | :32:19. | :32:21. | |
ever undertaken by a spacecraft, but the 12-year journey | :32:22. | :32:30. | |
by the Rosetta probe In a few hours, it will be | :32:31. | :32:32. | |
deliberately crashed into the comet 67P, which it has been tracking | :32:33. | :32:37. | |
for the past two years. Rosetta is so far out in space | :32:38. | :32:40. | |
that its solar-powered instruments are failing, | :32:41. | :32:43. | |
but scientists say its findings will The most senior lawyer working | :32:44. | :32:45. | |
for the independent inquiry into historical allegations of child | :32:46. | :32:53. | |
sex abuse has resigned. Ben Emmerson, who was suspended | :32:54. | :33:01. | |
from the inquiry yesterday after what were said to be questions | :33:02. | :33:08. | |
about his leadership, has denied falling out | :33:09. | :33:11. | |
with the chairwoman, The investigation was formally | :33:12. | :33:12. | |
set up 18 months ago to look at failures by institutions, | :33:13. | :33:15. | |
such as schools and hospitals, to protect children | :33:16. | :33:18. | |
in England and Wales. The assistant manager | :33:19. | :33:20. | |
of Southampton Football Club has become the latest figure implicated | :33:21. | :33:22. | |
in the Daily Telegraph's investigation into | :33:23. | :33:24. | |
football corruption. The paper says Eric Black has been | :33:25. | :33:27. | |
secretly filmed allegedly advising undercover reporters how to bribe | :33:28. | :33:30. | |
staff at lower-league clubs. A spokesperson for Southampton said | :33:31. | :33:34. | |
the club was investigating The Chief Constable | :33:35. | :33:36. | |
of South Yorkshire Police has said he'll take legal action | :33:37. | :33:46. | |
after the region's Police and Crime Commissioner | :33:47. | :33:48. | |
asked him to resign. David Crompton was suspended | :33:49. | :33:50. | |
from his role following the Hillsborough inquest | :33:51. | :33:52. | |
verdicts in April. The PCC Alan Billings says he should | :33:53. | :33:56. | |
quit because he had led a force that put its own reputation first | :33:57. | :33:59. | |
before considering victims. Mr Crompton says he'll challenge | :34:00. | :34:01. | |
that in the High Court. Shares in Deutsche Bank, | :34:02. | :34:09. | |
Europe's second-largest lender, have fallen sharply amid reports | :34:10. | :34:11. | |
that some hedge funds There have been questions | :34:12. | :34:13. | |
about the bank's stability, since news emerged that it is facing | :34:14. | :34:21. | |
a penalty of up to $14 billion in the US for mis-selling | :34:22. | :34:24. | |
mortgage-backed securities. If you're in your 30s, | :34:25. | :34:32. | |
you're probably only half as wealthy as someone who is now in their 40s | :34:33. | :34:34. | |
was, at the same age. That's according to research from | :34:35. | :34:37. | |
the Institute for Fiscal Studies that found people in their early 30s | :34:38. | :34:40. | |
now have an average net household wealth of ?27,000 per adult compared | :34:41. | :34:43. | |
to ?53,000 for those born in the 1970s when they | :34:44. | :34:46. | |
were at the same stage. The study found the property boom | :34:47. | :34:48. | |
and generous pensions It's emerged that the BBC's | :34:49. | :34:50. | |
governors intervened in the 1960s when it was proposed | :34:51. | :35:02. | |
that the glove puppet, Sooty, A new documentary about its creator | :35:03. | :35:04. | |
Harry Corbett reveals he wanted He was initially overruled, | :35:05. | :35:11. | |
because the BBC thought it was inappropriate for two puppets | :35:12. | :35:21. | |
to be romantically linked. That's a summary of the latest | :35:22. | :35:24. | |
news, join me for BBC More allegations of corruption in | :35:25. | :35:47. | |
English football starting with Sam Allardyce, England manager, this | :35:48. | :35:52. | |
week. What is the latest? Early on in the week, the beginning of what | :35:53. | :35:57. | |
we understand will be a whole range of allegations that are made over a | :35:58. | :36:04. | |
series of days in the newspaper. Continued this week. Ten month | :36:05. | :36:08. | |
investigation. The results of which they are revealing and have been | :36:09. | :36:14. | |
doing so. Sam Allardyce was revealed to be, by undercover reporters, | :36:15. | :36:20. | |
talking to them about potentially getting around third-party ownership | :36:21. | :36:24. | |
rules. Suggesting he knew a way how to do that. He was the negotiating | :36:25. | :36:29. | |
an appearance fee of ?400,000. It was within 24 hours, almost, there's | :36:30. | :36:35. | |
newspaper allegations coming out, in the Daily Telegraph, that he lost | :36:36. | :36:40. | |
his job. Tommy Wright in the day subsequent was one of those named, | :36:41. | :36:44. | |
Barnsley Assistant Manager placed under investigation. You can see him | :36:45. | :36:48. | |
here. Sacked yesterday as a result of the allegations in the Daily | :36:49. | :36:52. | |
Telegraph. Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink, QPR manager, never Championship | :36:53. | :36:55. | |
club, allegations made against him. QPR were investigating those | :36:56. | :36:59. | |
investigations but they have said in the last half an hour they are | :37:00. | :37:03. | |
unable to proceed -- another Championship club. Because they have | :37:04. | :37:06. | |
not yet received all the details on the Daily Telegraph. Massimo | :37:07. | :37:11. | |
Cellino, Leeds owner was also named in that piece by the Daily | :37:12. | :37:18. | |
Telegraph. It has been a sinew of, including today of allegations that | :37:19. | :37:24. | |
Southampton manager Eric Black gave undercover reporter 's advice on how | :37:25. | :37:29. | |
to bribe officials at other clubs. Here he is, having taken over at | :37:30. | :37:33. | |
Southampton. Assistant Manager Southampton. Claude Poole sitting | :37:34. | :37:39. | |
next to him in the summer. He was filmed apparently doing that. He | :37:40. | :37:43. | |
denies the claims. Southampton have said they will investigate those | :37:44. | :37:47. | |
claims, including, you can understand that as these claims and | :37:48. | :37:51. | |
all the investigations, the details of that are revealed, day by day, | :37:52. | :37:55. | |
there are more investigations that have to be done by clubs. They are | :37:56. | :37:59. | |
seeking all the information from the Daily Telegraph. Police are getting | :38:00. | :38:04. | |
involved as well. We don't know how long it will go on for. A suggestion | :38:05. | :38:09. | |
that ten months of work will be relayed in the newspaper over the | :38:10. | :38:12. | |
next few days. Interesting to see who else they are able to name and | :38:13. | :38:16. | |
what effect it has on some of those people's careers. | :38:17. | :38:21. | |
It's a year since a change in the law made it possible | :38:22. | :38:28. | |
for people who might have to deal with overdosing heroin users to be | :38:29. | :38:31. | |
The injection, Naloxone can be carried | :38:32. | :38:35. | |
by lifeguards, toilet attendants, carers, and also friends, | :38:36. | :38:37. | |
family and even children of drug users. | :38:38. | :38:39. | |
Charity Change Grow Live says the antidote has saved | :38:40. | :38:41. | |
But figures show more people than ever in England and wales | :38:42. | :38:45. | |
are dying from heroin and other opiate drugs. | :38:46. | :38:51. | |
With me now is Karl Price a former drug user who has been saved | :38:52. | :38:54. | |
from dying of an overdose by naloxone on three occasions. | :38:55. | :38:56. | |
And Stacey Smith from the charity Change Grow Live, which has trained | :38:57. | :38:59. | |
more than 6,000 people to be able to administer naloxone. | :39:00. | :39:02. | |
Thank you both for coming in. Stacey, tell us how it works. It | :39:03. | :39:11. | |
sounds like a miracle if somebody has overdosed, but this injection | :39:12. | :39:15. | |
can reverse that? What naloxone does, it reverses the effect of the | :39:16. | :39:20. | |
opiate overdose. The main killer from an acute overdose is not being | :39:21. | :39:25. | |
able to breathe. What naloxone does, it boots out the opiate and allows | :39:26. | :39:29. | |
the person to breathe again. It is as simple as that. How many people | :39:30. | :39:35. | |
has your charity actually trained? We've trained round about... Mostly | :39:36. | :39:40. | |
all of our staff teams, we've already saved 241 lives. It has been | :39:41. | :39:45. | |
a real driver for us, when the regulations changed in October, we | :39:46. | :39:48. | |
were really driving this training for people. Stacey says you can't | :39:49. | :39:55. | |
breathe when you overdose with an opiate. You have been there, three | :39:56. | :40:02. | |
times, describe what it is like. You kind of, you know, becomes | :40:03. | :40:06. | |
semi-unconscious. Your breathing drops, your heart rate drops. You | :40:07. | :40:11. | |
can, kind of, you are where little bit of what is going on around you | :40:12. | :40:14. | |
but you can't speak, you can't move, stuff like that. -- you are aware. | :40:15. | :40:20. | |
It's not a nice place to go to. And you feel you are dying? That there's | :40:21. | :40:28. | |
no way back? No... You kind of... You're not really sure what's going | :40:29. | :40:32. | |
on. You feel like you're kind of slipping into a deep sleep type of | :40:33. | :40:39. | |
thing. You will feel really drowsy. And you are, pretty much, | :40:40. | :40:43. | |
unconscious. As I mentioned, you have overdosed three times and on | :40:44. | :40:47. | |
those three occasions, your life has been saved with this injection. | :40:48. | :40:52. | |
Yeah. When you are injected, what happens, then? What it does, it | :40:53. | :40:56. | |
actually removed the morphine from your receptors in your brain. It | :40:57. | :41:00. | |
will give you a massive adrenaline rush. -- it actually removes. You go | :41:01. | :41:05. | |
from being unconscious, unresponsive, and you will wake up | :41:06. | :41:10. | |
really quickly. It will put you into a withdrawal. Describe how all of | :41:11. | :41:14. | |
that feels, in the moment. The first time I had it, obviously, | :41:15. | :41:23. | |
it was quite surprising because I never had it before. The second and | :41:24. | :41:27. | |
third time I had it, I obviously knew what was happening. I was more | :41:28. | :41:32. | |
aware. I was just pretty relieved to be alive, if I'm honest. Once the | :41:33. | :41:36. | |
doctors and nurses had explained to me what had happened, I was just | :41:37. | :41:44. | |
relieved that it was there. I wouldn't be sitting here today if it | :41:45. | :41:48. | |
wasn't for naloxone. I am one of the success stories because I had it on | :41:49. | :41:53. | |
three occasions. On one of those occasions, I had overdosed and 20 | :41:54. | :41:58. | |
minutes later, when the naloxone wore off, I overdosed again. It kind | :41:59. | :42:02. | |
of saved my life twice in one sitting. Having gone through that | :42:03. | :42:08. | |
experience once and knowing that you would have died, if you hadn't of | :42:09. | :42:13. | |
had the naloxone, you might think that would be a wake-up call. How | :42:14. | :42:19. | |
did you react to that? I guess, when you're addicted to, you know, class | :42:20. | :42:24. | |
a drugs, every time you use, you're risking life, really. You don't | :42:25. | :42:30. | |
really look at it like that. The power of addiction and the way that | :42:31. | :42:34. | |
you think, even though you know you are taking a risk, you, kind of, | :42:35. | :42:41. | |
don't think about that stuff. Your main priority is using drugs. Did | :42:42. | :42:48. | |
naloxone take away your fear of overdosing? To be fair, kind of | :42:49. | :42:54. | |
before I'd had the naloxone, I didn't really have a fear of | :42:55. | :42:58. | |
overdosing. It's not something that you think about. When I was using, I | :42:59. | :43:04. | |
would kind of use as much as I could, every single day, if I could | :43:05. | :43:09. | |
get hold of it. I didn't, kind of, think well, there's a risk I might | :43:10. | :43:15. | |
overdose. My overdoses and a lot of ones I have heard of and I have had | :43:16. | :43:19. | |
friends and a partner who died, they are accidental overdoses because | :43:20. | :43:23. | |
they are not thinking they are using too much. Or that they are at risk | :43:24. | :43:30. | |
of overdose. Stacey, could the knowledge that there is an injection | :43:31. | :43:35. | |
that can effectively bring you back to life after an overdose take away | :43:36. | :43:41. | |
a fear of overdosing, for some? I think as Karl has explained, people | :43:42. | :43:46. | |
are not in that state of mind at that moment. We know that most | :43:47. | :43:49. | |
overdoses are accidental overdoses, these people don't necessarily want | :43:50. | :43:53. | |
to die but they are caught up in their habit. I think when we give | :43:54. | :43:57. | |
naloxone, there is a lot more training that goes with it around | :43:58. | :44:01. | |
basic life support, how to put people in the recovery position, | :44:02. | :44:06. | |
make sure you ring 999 and it is an opportunity for drugs workers to | :44:07. | :44:09. | |
bring people into treatment. The most dangerous is when you use on | :44:10. | :44:13. | |
your own in an unsafe place because there is nobody there to help you. | :44:14. | :44:17. | |
One of our drivers at the moment is trying to get naloxone out to as | :44:18. | :44:20. | |
many people as possible through drug workers, pharmacists, through | :44:21. | :44:24. | |
lifeguards, the police. There are all of these people that may come | :44:25. | :44:28. | |
across those people. What message is that sending? A message that an | :44:29. | :44:32. | |
overdose isn't the worst thing to fear because there is the antidote? | :44:33. | :44:38. | |
Everybody deserves a second chance. If Karl hadn't received naloxone, he | :44:39. | :44:43. | |
would not be here today. That is the message. People go through stages | :44:44. | :44:47. | |
and they deserve a chance to get their lives on track and it brings | :44:48. | :44:50. | |
people into services and allows us to work with people. It is very | :44:51. | :44:53. | |
difficult to work with someone when they are dead. This is a drug that | :44:54. | :44:57. | |
is completely simple. It is given and it reverses the effects. Andrew | :44:58. | :45:01. | |
on Facebook, we spend too much time and money pandering to the | :45:02. | :45:05. | |
self-inflicted injuries. Youngsters think it is fine to take legal highs | :45:06. | :45:10. | |
and self-inflicted drugs, no it isn't, it is the slippery slope. | :45:11. | :45:14. | |
Think of the money and time wasted in hospitals to save these people so | :45:15. | :45:17. | |
they can do it again. Life is tough for everybody, get over it. Do you | :45:18. | :45:19. | |
want to react to that? I think until you have actually been | :45:20. | :45:30. | |
few active addiction, to understand that, for me, addiction is a mental | :45:31. | :45:34. | |
illness. When I was using drugs, people might think that I had a | :45:35. | :45:39. | |
choice on whether or not to do that, but once I was mentally and | :45:40. | :45:43. | |
physically addicted to it it's kind of became my whole life. I was | :45:44. | :45:48. | |
saying yesterday it is kind of like when you put a horse into a race, | :45:49. | :45:52. | |
they have got blinkers on, they don't see anything else around them, | :45:53. | :45:59. | |
they have just got complete tunnel vision. That is kind of what it was | :46:00. | :46:03. | |
like when I was using. I was rounded from a really early age, I had a | :46:04. | :46:07. | |
really traumatic childhood. It is not as simple as one day I decided | :46:08. | :46:11. | |
to use drugs, I will just pick them up. At the end of the day, there are | :46:12. | :46:17. | |
people out there using, there are people out there that will overdose. | :46:18. | :46:25. | |
Nalaoxone will save their life. It does not make them bad people | :46:26. | :46:29. | |
because they are using drugs. For me, it can only be positive. Now I | :46:30. | :46:37. | |
get to work with people and I get to see it on a daily basis, and I am | :46:38. | :46:43. | |
very passionate about trying to make people more aware of Nalaoxone, and | :46:44. | :46:47. | |
the fact that it can save people's lives. I get people coming out of | :46:48. | :46:52. | |
prison with no tolerance, who might think that they can come out of | :46:53. | :46:55. | |
prison and use the same amount of drugs as they did before they went | :46:56. | :47:00. | |
into prison, they are at massive risk of overdose. And like Stacey | :47:01. | :47:05. | |
said, about the families as well. Because obviously I have had a | :47:06. | :47:09. | |
partner that has died from it. On that particular day, if I had had a | :47:10. | :47:14. | |
Naloxone kit with me, she would probably still be here today. | :47:15. | :47:18. | |
When you look back on your life, what was it that made you decide in | :47:19. | :47:25. | |
the end to stop taking drugs? I kind of got to a point where I had just | :47:26. | :47:30. | |
had enough, you know? You have to hit rock bottom. I got to a point | :47:31. | :47:34. | |
where it was either using drugs was probably going to kill me, my life | :47:35. | :47:41. | |
was just chaos, you know? I was sick of hurting other people. The thing | :47:42. | :47:45. | |
with addiction, it is a family illness. It is not just about poor | :47:46. | :47:50. | |
me, I am addicted to drugs. I never used to think about the impact that | :47:51. | :47:56. | |
it would have on my family, my loved ones, people around me. And society | :47:57. | :48:00. | |
in general. I didn't think about that stuff. I got to a point where I | :48:01. | :48:05. | |
had just had enough. I wanted to change my life, I did not want to be | :48:06. | :48:12. | |
that person any more, I wanted to become a better person. I just got | :48:13. | :48:16. | |
sick of it, if I'm honest. Thank you, Carl and Stacey. | :48:17. | :48:23. | |
Still to come, did the Mafia steel two appraisers Vanguard painting | :48:24. | :48:26. | |
stolen from a new theme in Amsterdam in 2002? -- two priceless Vincent | :48:27. | :48:32. | |
van Gogh paintings? Leaders from around the world have | :48:33. | :48:36. | |
been paying their final respects to the former Israeli President | :48:37. | :48:38. | |
Prime Minister Shimon Peres. The 93 year old Nobel Peace Prize | :48:39. | :48:41. | |
winner suffered a stroke two weeks Picking attending the funeral | :48:42. | :48:50. | |
included Prince Charles, Tony Blair, Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. | :48:51. | :48:55. | |
Mahmoud A bars, the Palestinian president, shook hands with Israeli | :48:56. | :48:58. | |
President Benjamin Netanyahu shortly before the ceremony began. | :48:59. | :49:00. | |
Speaking at the funeral, Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin | :49:01. | :49:03. | |
Netanyahu said ex-President Shimon Peres was a great | :49:04. | :49:05. | |
That so many leaders came from around the world to bid | :49:06. | :49:09. | |
farewell to Shimon is a testament to his optimism, his quest | :49:10. | :49:13. | |
The people of Israel deeply appreciate the honour | :49:14. | :49:25. | |
And the State to which he dedicated his life. | :49:26. | :49:36. | |
He swept so many with his vision and his hope. | :49:37. | :49:48. | |
But we find hope in his legacy, as does the world. | :49:49. | :50:11. | |
President Obama paid tribute to Mr Peres' stature as both | :50:12. | :50:14. | |
a defender of Israel and a maker of peace. | :50:15. | :50:19. | |
He understood, in this war-torn region, where, too often, Arab | :50:20. | :50:22. | |
youths are taught to hate Israel, from an early age. | :50:23. | :50:30. | |
He understood just how hard peace would be. | :50:31. | :50:37. | |
I am sure he was alternatively angry and | :50:38. | :50:39. | |
bemused, to hear the same critics who called him hopelessly naive | :50:40. | :50:46. | |
depend on the defence architecture that he himself had helped to build. | :50:47. | :50:50. | |
But he understood, from hard-earned experience, that true security comes | :50:51. | :51:06. | |
through making peace with your neighbours. | :51:07. | :51:12. | |
We won them all, he said of Israel's wars, but we did not win | :51:13. | :51:15. | |
the greatest victory that we aspired to. | :51:16. | :51:19. | |
Release from the need to win victories. | :51:20. | :51:31. | |
President Obama paying tribute to Shimon Peres at his funeral. | :51:32. | :51:39. | |
Those born in the early 80s now have about half the wealth that those | :51:40. | :51:42. | |
born in 70s had at same age, a new report by the Institute | :51:43. | :51:45. | |
The IFS says that today's thirty-something generation has | :51:46. | :51:51. | |
missed out on house price increases and better pensions. | :51:52. | :51:53. | |
Let's talk to Andrew Hood, who is an economist at the Institute | :51:54. | :51:56. | |
of Economic Affairs and one of the authors of the report. | :51:57. | :52:02. | |
Thank you very much for joining us. It is a very short difference in | :52:03. | :52:10. | |
terms of age for a huge difference in terms of wealth. How has that | :52:11. | :52:15. | |
happened? Because there has been a sharp fall in the homeownership | :52:16. | :52:19. | |
rate. Looking at those born in the early 1980s, at the age of 30, 40% | :52:20. | :52:24. | |
owned their own home, compared to more than 55% of those born in the | :52:25. | :52:30. | |
1970s. That figure is more than 55% for those born in the 40s, 50s and | :52:31. | :52:35. | |
60 's. Will the trend continue at this sort of rate? I don't know | :52:36. | :52:40. | |
about this sort of rate, but as long as house prices continue to rise | :52:41. | :52:45. | |
faster than earnings, as they have over the past decade and beyond, it | :52:46. | :52:50. | |
is likely that that home ownership trend we are seeing across | :52:51. | :52:54. | |
generations is likely to continue. That is partly because it is not | :52:55. | :52:58. | |
about the fact that people can't afford the mortgage is, they can't | :52:59. | :53:02. | |
afford the deposits. It is quite a tight snapshot over a | :53:03. | :53:06. | |
short time frame. Would you expect that to change or will this be a | :53:07. | :53:10. | |
moment looked back on as the moment weather was a big divide? | :53:11. | :53:17. | |
Taking a longer view, the issue is not just the wealth that those in | :53:18. | :53:21. | |
their 30s have now, it is how they will build up as they move towards | :53:22. | :53:26. | |
retirement. Not only do they own fewer homes, meaning they have less | :53:27. | :53:30. | |
wealth now, they will not benefit to the same extent from future house | :53:31. | :53:35. | |
price increases. On top of that, you have the fact that generous company | :53:36. | :53:39. | |
pensions in the private sector are much less available to those | :53:40. | :53:43. | |
currently in their 30s to those that win their 30s 20 ago. | :53:44. | :53:50. | |
Rolling forward, people will own their houses, it is just who and | :53:51. | :53:55. | |
where they are concentrated? Can you evaluate what you think the future | :53:56. | :54:00. | |
trends would be? The houses that are older generations and the current | :54:01. | :54:05. | |
retired population hold will have to go to somebody. The question is who. | :54:06. | :54:11. | |
That is where this difference in inequality between generations might | :54:12. | :54:14. | |
turn into an inequality within the younger generation. Obviously it | :54:15. | :54:19. | |
will matter whether your parents were homeowners, that determines | :54:20. | :54:22. | |
whether you will inherit the wealth that comes from their house. Other | :54:23. | :54:27. | |
research we have done has shown that those who already have higher wealth | :54:28. | :54:31. | |
are much more likely to expect to inherit, so it could be that wealth | :54:32. | :54:36. | |
inequality in the younger generation is driven by the inheritances coming | :54:37. | :54:41. | |
from the richer, older generation. Thank you very much, Andrew. | :54:42. | :54:43. | |
Two priceless paintings by Vincent van Gogh have been | :54:44. | :54:45. | |
recovered by Italian police - 14 years after they were stolen | :54:46. | :54:48. | |
The missing masterpieces were found in Naples, among millions | :54:49. | :54:51. | |
of euros' worth of assets seized from the city's | :54:52. | :54:53. | |
Our correspondent Jane Frances Kelly has been covering the story for us. | :54:54. | :55:04. | |
What has emerged? I have read that, allegedly, these paintings were | :55:05. | :55:12. | |
recovered from the house of an international drugs dealer. This has | :55:13. | :55:17. | |
not been confirmed. But the Italian government is cracking down on the | :55:18. | :55:23. | |
Camorra, or the Naples Mafia, because of a spiral in drugs related | :55:24. | :55:30. | |
violence, extortion and so on. This has led to the recovery of these two | :55:31. | :55:36. | |
paintings that, as you mentioned, were taken from the Van Gogh Museum | :55:37. | :55:42. | |
in Amsterdam in 2002. This seed is apparently got through the roof. It | :55:43. | :55:47. | |
was a mystery how they managed to get away with the paintings -- the | :55:48. | :55:51. | |
seeds apparently got through the roof. The paintings were cut from | :55:52. | :55:57. | |
their frames. The paintings, you have the View of | :55:58. | :56:01. | |
the Sea at Scheveningen, I hope that I am pronouncing that correctly. It | :56:02. | :56:05. | |
was painted in 1882, a small painting. Apparently I have read | :56:06. | :56:09. | |
that Sonya fought against the elements and pieces of sand became | :56:10. | :56:15. | |
embedded in the wet paint. -- I have read that Van Gogh fought against | :56:16. | :56:20. | |
the elements. The second painting is from 1884, Congregation Leaving the | :56:21. | :56:23. | |
Reformed Church in Nuenen. This was for his mother, and, partly, his | :56:24. | :56:28. | |
father, the 's at this church. He lived with them until they went to | :56:29. | :56:35. | |
Antwerp. He committed suicide in 1890. If you have broken into the | :56:36. | :56:40. | |
Van Gogh Museum, you get your pick of Van Goghs, why those two? I'm | :56:41. | :56:48. | |
afraid I don't know the answer. Are they particularly significant? They | :56:49. | :56:52. | |
are the early period of his career. The museum has over 200 paintings, | :56:53. | :56:58. | |
I'm afraid only the people who stole them can tell us that. Maybe they | :56:59. | :57:03. | |
were commissioned to steal those particular items. One does not know. | :57:04. | :57:09. | |
After knee is very, very famous paintings will go underground. -- | :57:10. | :57:13. | |
often these very, very famous will go underground. You can't sell them | :57:14. | :57:17. | |
on the open market, whole departments are looking for stolen | :57:18. | :57:20. | |
art. People would be aware, you could not turn up at an auction | :57:21. | :57:24. | |
house with them, but they could be used as collateral in drugs deaths | :57:25. | :57:29. | |
or, potentially, to a private collector. So they will go straight | :57:30. | :57:35. | |
back to the museum? Yes, but we do not know when. Presumably with | :57:36. | :57:40. | |
better security? I would have thought that, after that, security | :57:41. | :57:45. | |
would have been improved, yes. Thank you very much. | :57:46. | :57:46. | |
There will be continuing coverage of the Rosetta mission and that crash | :57:47. | :57:58. | |
landing into a comet. That is due at around 2:15pm. The spacecraft itself | :57:59. | :58:06. | |
will be travelling very slowly, the comet will be travelling very | :58:07. | :58:10. | |
quickly, so making sure they crash will be something of a mission, but | :58:11. | :58:14. | |
it brings to an end that time in history for the Rosetta spacecraft. | :58:15. | :58:17. |