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Good morning, welcome to the programme, I'm Joanna Gosling.

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The funeral is taking place of Israel's former

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Prince Charles and Boris Johnson are amongst the hundreds of people

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His critics often claimed he was a naive, overly

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They were only wrong about the naive part.

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We will join the service, throughout the morning.

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President Obama is due to speak in the next half an hour.

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The end is nigh for the spacecraft Rosetta -

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as it prepares to crash-land into the comet it's been studying

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We are live at the European Space Agency.

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And later, a drug charity says it's saved hundreds of lives

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It's a year since a change in the law made it possible

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for an heroin antidote to be given out to friends and relatives to use

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on addicts who are in danger of overdosing.

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Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11am.

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Leaders from around the world are gathered in Jerusalem this

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morning to pay their final respects to the former Israeli President

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The 93-year-old Nobel Peace Prize winner suffered a stroke two

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weeks ago and passed away earlier this week.

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President Barack Obama and Prince Charles are amongst those

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Speaking at the ceremony a short while ago, Israeli Prime Minister

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Benjamin Netanyahu paid tribute to Peres as a man of vision.

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That so many leaders came from around the world to bid

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farewell to Shimon is a testament to his optimism, his quest

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The people of Israel deeply appreciate the honour

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And the State to which he dedicated his life.

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He swept so many with his vision and his hope.

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But we find hope in his legacy, as does the world.

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With us now is our Middle East correspondent Yolande

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Tell us more about the tributes that have been heard at the funeral so

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far. It's a really impressive

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international line-up, first of all, something quite incredible. To see

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the National cemetery filled with dozens of world leaders are

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assembling to remember the life of Shimon Peres. They come from 70

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different countries, some of them came from the other side of the

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world. This is a man, as Israeli politicians have been pointing out,

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his life really mirrored that of Israel itself. Which was created in

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just 1948. He was somebody who served as an aid to the country's

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founding fathers. He was a defence official early on and somebody who

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was very hawkish. Widely credited with many of the achievements making

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Israel a nuclear power. Also, early on, he supported the creation of

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Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank, on occupied Palestinian

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land. But then, he went through his big turnaround. He was the hawk that

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became a dove. In 1993, he oversaw the peace deal, the first peace deal

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with the Palestinians. That was what won him a Nobel Peace Prize. That is

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why, really, the Palestinian president, Matt Millar bass, has

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made just a short visit here but an extremely rare one to Jerusalem.

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Withstanding a lot of criticism about the mixed legacy of Mr Peres

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so he could be had. His vision and optimism Barack Obama will focus on,

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when he gives his eulogy very shortly. What happens, from here?

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At the moment, we are just hearing from the children of Mr Peretz,

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their personal recollections of him and then he will be laid to rest

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alongside the Prime Minister of Israel who was assassinated back in

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1995. A joint winner of the Nobel Peace Prize with Mr Peretz and the

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Palestinian president at the time, Yasir Arafat. He will then take his

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place in the history of Israel. So people can continue to pay their

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respects. 50,000 members of the Israeli public, most of them went to

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visit the coffin of Mr Peres, when he was lying in state at the Israeli

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parliament yesterday. Thank you. This is the scene live in and. We

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will go back and continue with further coverage. We are expecting

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to hear from President Barack Obama and we will bring you his tribute

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when that happens. Annita is in the BBC

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Newsroom, with a summary It's one of the most complicated

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and difficult missions ever undertaken by a spacecraft,

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but the 12-year journey by the Rosetta probe

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is about to come to an end. Dramatically. The probe, Rosetta,

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has been in close orbit around the comet 67P will crash landing to the

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comet in a couple of hours' time. Rosetta is so far out in space

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that its solar powered instruments are failing, but before impact,

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it's expected to send back some more Our global science correspondent

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Rebecca Morelle has more. A final farewell to Comet 67P

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and a trailblazing mission that's The Rosetta spacecraft's been

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orbiting this alien world, Now, though, its power is fading,

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and a crash-landing will bring It's sad that, on the one

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hand, this is over, but we've achieved

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something fantastic. There's the excitement

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of what we have achieved already by doing this mission,

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and the huge amount of science we have that we've only

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just started to scrape So, the operations end now,

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but the science continues. The Rosetta mission blasted off

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in 2004 and, after a 10-year journey, and it made history when it

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dropped a small robot After a bumpy touchdown,

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the robot stopped working But the next landing,

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of its mothership, will The Rosetta spacecraft was designed

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to fly to the comet, around the comet,

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but not to land on it. There's no doubt that

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as soon as it touches down But it gives scientists

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the chance to squeeze every last drop of science

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of this mission, and all the way down,

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it's going to be taking close-up Rosetta's transformed our

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understanding of comets. But it's also a mission that has

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captured the public's imagination. The most senior lawyer working

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for the independent inquiry into historical allegations of child

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sex abuse has resigned. Ben Emmerson, who was suspended

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from the inquiry yesterday after what were said to be questions

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about his leadership, has denied falling out

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with the chairwoman, Alexis Jay. The investigation was

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set up 18 months ago to look at failures by institutions,

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such as schools and hospitals, to protect children

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in England and Wales. Questions have been raised

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about the inquiry's future, but the Prime Minister Theresa May

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has defended its work. We should always remember why

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it is that the inquiry was set up And when those terms

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of reference were set, they were agreed with

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victims and survivors. And it's victims and survivors

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who are at the heart For too many years, too many people

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have been raising their voice, saying what has happened to them,

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and people have not been listening. We need to learn the

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lessons from the past. If we don't do that, we can't

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guarantee that we're going to be able to stop such abuse

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from happening in the future. The assistant manager

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of Southampton Football Club has become the latest figure implicated

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in the Daily Telegraph's investigation into football

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corruption. The paper says Eric Black has been

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secretly filmed allegedly advising undercover reporters how to bribe

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staff at lower league clubs. A spokesperson for

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Southampton said the club The Chief Constable

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of South Yorkshire Police has said he'll take legal action

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after the region's Police and Crime Commissioner

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asked him to resign. David Crompton was suspended

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from his role, following the Hillsborough inquest

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verdicts in April. The PCC Alan Billings says he should

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quit because he had led a force that put its own reputation before

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the welfare of victims. Mr Crompton says he'll challenge

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that in the high court. The Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt

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is threatening to 'name and shame' restaurants,

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cafes and pubs that do not reduce In private meeting

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Mr Hunt and the head of Public Health England,

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Duncan Selbie, met more They discussed the implementation

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of the government's obesity strategy, which includes

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a commitment to cut sugar Shares the troubled in Deutsche Bank

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- Europe's second largest lender - have fallen sharply amid reports

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that some hedge funds There have been questions

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about the bank's stability since news emerged that it is facing

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a penalty of up to $14 billion in the US for mis-selling

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mortgage-backed securities. Investigations are continuing

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in America into what caused a train to crash into a station

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in New Jersey yesterday. A 34-year-old woman died and more

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than 100 other people were injured. The packed commuter service failed

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to slow down and then The packed commuter service failed

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to slow down and then The train driver has been released

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from hospital and is expected to be If you're in your 30s,

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you're probably only half as wealthy as someone who is now in their 40s

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was at the same age. That's one of the findings of some

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research looking at differences in wealth between people born

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in the 1970s and 1980s. The property boom and generous

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pensions are the big Our personal finance correspondent

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Simon Gompertz explains. Making the best of it,

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but this is the generation Early-30s, struggling to get

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on the housing ladder, shelling out for rent,

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instead of a pension. It was very much everyone

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was spending on credit cards that were limitless, and people could get

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another one and another one. And I think people didn't think

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they needed a plan, really. And I grew up in that

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scenario, as a little boy. It is hard to try and get a place

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of my own, as well, as it is. I'd like to get to maybe

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house-sharing stage, or renting, but I think that

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what is the norm now is renting. It's getting a lot more

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like Europe, I think. I think it's becoming a bit

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of a daydream that people can The stark numbers are

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that the average wealth of this group, born in the early 1980s,

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is ?27,000 each, including home and savings, while those only ten

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years old had wealth by the same stage in their lives of ?53,000,

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helped by house prices and the value If we look across the country

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as a whole, on average, those born in the '80s have half

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the wealth of those born ten years earlier

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did at the same age. And when we look at their incomes,

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they look about the same. But renters are spending a bigger

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share of their income That bigger share,

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who don't own a home. That's crucial, because young adults

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now paying high rents are watching older generations

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pull far ahead, as far And, when they're older,

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they are likely to have stingier That's a summary of the latest BBC

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News, more at 9:30am. Thank you, let's go back to

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Jerusalem where the funeral service is underway for the former Prime

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Minister and President Shimon Peres, being laid to rest in a ceremony

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being attended by leaders from around the world, the largest

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gathering of world leaders injuries and for years. The children of

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Shimon Peres have just paid tribute. They have just followed on from

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eulogies that have been delivered, paid tribute to the life of a man

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who has been described as a man of peace. The Prime Minister, Benjamin

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-- Benjamin Netanyahu said he sought to incredible heights, great man of

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Israel, great man of the world. This is his funeral service. He will soon

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be laid to rest, alongside other former leaders and President Obama

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is about to deliver his eulogy to Shimon Peres.

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To the generations of the Peres family. To the president, Prime

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Minister, Netanyahu, members of the Israeli government, heads of state,

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and government and guests from around the world, including

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President Mahmoud Abbas, whose presence here is a gesture and a

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reminder of the unfinished business of peace. To the people of Israel, I

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could not be more honoured to be in Jerusalem, to say farewell to my

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friend, Shimon Peres. Who showed us that justice and hope

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are at the heart of the Zionist idea. A free life in a homeland

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regained. A secure life in a nation that can defend itself by itself. A

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full life in friendship with nations that can be counted on as allies.

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Always. A bountiful life, driven by the

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simple pleasures of family and by big dreams. This was Shimon Peres'

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life. This is the state of Israel. This is the story of the Jewish

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people over the last century. It was made possible by a founding

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generation that accounts Shimon as one of its own. Shimon once said

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that the message of the Jewish people to mankind is that faith and

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moral vision can triumph over all adversity. For Shimon, that moral

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vision was rooted in an honest reckoning of the world as it is. He

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said he felt surrounded by a sea of sick and threatening forests when he

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was born. When his family got the chance to go to Palestine, his

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beloved grandfather's parting words were simple. Shimon, stay Jew.

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Propelled with fat face, he found his home, he found his purpose. He

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found his life's work. -- propelled with that faith. But he was still a

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teenager when his grandfather was burned alive by the Nazis in the

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town where Shimon was born. The synagogue in which he prayed became

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an inferno. The railroad tracks which carried him towards the

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promised land also delivered so many of his people to death camps. And

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so, from an early age, Shimon bore witness to the cruelty that human

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beings could inflict on each other. The ways that one group of people

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could dehumanise another. The particular madness of anti-Semitism,

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which has run like a stain through history. That understanding of man's

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ever present sinfulness would steal him against hardship and make him

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the jewel and against threats to Jewry around the world. But that

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understanding would never harden his heart. It would never extinguish his

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face. -- his faith. It broadened his moral imagination instead, and gave

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him the capacity to see all people as deserving of dignity and respect.

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It helped him see not just the world as it is but the world as it should

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be. What Shimon did to shape the story

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of Israel is well chronicled. Starting in the kibbutz that he

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founded with his wife, he began the work of building a moral community.

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Begu Rhian called him to serve at their headquarters to make sure that

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the British people have the armaments and organisation to secure

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their freedom. After independence, surrounded by enemies who denied

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Israel's existence and sought to drive it into the sea, the child who

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had wanted to be a poet of the stars became a man who built Israel's

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defence industry, who laid the foundation for the formidable Armed

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Forces that won Israel's wars. His skills secured Israel's strategic

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position, his boldness sent Israeli commandos to rescue Jews from

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Ethiopia. His statesmanship built an unbreakable bond with United States

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of the America -- United States of America and so many other countries.

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His contributions did not end there. Shimon showed what people can do

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when they harness reason and science to a common cause. He understood

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that a country without many natural resources could more than make up

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for it with the talents of its people. He made hard choices to roll

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back inflation and climb back from a terrible economic crisis. He

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champions the promise of science and technology to make the desert bloom

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and turned this tiny country into a central hub of the digital age,

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making life better not just for people here but people around the

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world. In deed, Shimon's contribution to this nation is so

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fundamental, so pervasive that perhaps sometimes they can be

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overlooked. For younger generation, Shimon was

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probably remembered more for a peace process that never reached its end

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point. They would listen to critics on the left who might argue that

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Shimon did not fully acknowledge the failings of his nation, or perhaps

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more numerous critics on the right who argue that he refused to see the

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true wickedness of the world and called him naive.

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But whatever he shared with his family or his closest friends, to

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the world he brushed off the critics. And I know from my

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conversations with him that his pursuit of peace was never naive.

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On one special occasion, each time, he would read the names of the

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family that he lost. As a young man he fed his village by working in the

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fields during the day, but then defending its by carrying a rifle at

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night. He understood, in this war-torn region, where too often

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Arab youths are taught to hate Israel from an early age, he

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understood just how hard peace would be. I'm sure he was alternatively

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angry and used to hear the same critics who called him hopelessly

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naive depend on the defence architecture that he himself had

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helped to build. I don't believe he was naive. He understood from

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hardened experience that true security comes to making peace with

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your neighbours. We won them all, he said of Israel's wars, but we did

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not win the greatest victory that we aspire to, release from the need to

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win victories. And just as he understood the practical necessity

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of peace, Shimon believe that Israel's exceptionalism was rooted

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not only infidelity to the Jewish people, -- was rooted not only in

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fidelity to the Jewish people but in the moral precepts of his Jewish

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faith. The Jewish people were not born to rule another people, he

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said. From the very first day, we are a guest, slaves and masters. Out

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of the hardships of the diaspora he found room in his heart for others

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who suffered. He came to hate prejudice with the passion of one

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who knows how it feels to be its targets. Even in the face of

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terrorist attacks, even after repeated disappointments at the

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negotiation table, he insisted that, as human beings, Palestinians must

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be seen as equal in dignity to Jews and must therefore be equal in

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self-determination. Because of his sense of justice, his analysis of

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Israel's security, his understanding of Israel's meaning, he believes

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that the Zionist idea would be best protected when Palestinians too had

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a state of their own. Of course, we gather here in the knowledge that

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Shimon never saw his dream of peace achieved. The region is going

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through a chaotic time. Threats are ever present. And yet he did not

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stop dreaming, and he did not stop working. By the time that I came to

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work with Shimon he was in the twilight of his years, although he

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might not admit it. I would be the tenth US president since John F.

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Kennedy to sit down with Shimon. The tenth to fall prey to his charms. I

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think of him sitting in the Oval Office, this final member of

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Israel's founding generation, under the portrait of George Washington,

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telling me stories from the past but, more often, talking with and

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he's Yaz of the present. His most recent lecture, his next project.

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His plans for the future. The wonders of his grandchildren. In

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many ways, he reminded me of some of the giants of the 20th-century that

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I've had the honour to meet. -- some other giants. Men like Nelson

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Mandela, women like Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth. Leaders who have

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seen so much, whose lives span such momentous ethics that they find no

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needs to posture or traffic in what is popular in the moment. People who

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speak with the depth and knowledge, not in sound bites. They find no

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interest in polls or fads, and like these leaders, Shimon could be true

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to his convictions even if they cut against the grain of current

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opinion. He knew better than the cynic that if you look out over the

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arc of history, human beings should be filled not with fear but with

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hope. I'm sure that is why he was so excited about technology because,

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for him, it symbolised the march of human progress. And it is why he

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loved so much to talk about young people. Because he saw young people

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unburdened by the prejudices of the past. It's why he believed in

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miracles, because, in Israel, he saw a miracle come true. As Americans

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and Israelis, we often talk about the unbreakable bond between our

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nations and, yes, these bonds and compass common interests. Vital

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cooperation that makes both our nations more secure. But, today, we

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are reminded that the bonds that matter most... Anchored in a

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Judaeo-Christian tradition we believe an irreducible value of

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every human being. I nations were built on that idea -- our nations

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were built. They were built in large part by stubborn idealists and

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striping immigrants, including those who had fled war and oppression. --

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striving immigrants. Both our nations had flaws that were not

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always fixed. Parts of our history that dates back to our founding that

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we do not always squarely address. But because our founders planted not

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just flags in the eternal soil, but also planted the seeds of democracy,

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we have the ability to always pursue a better world. We have the capacity

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to do what is right. As an American, as a Christian, a person partly of

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African descent, born in Hawaii, a place that could not be further than

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where Shimon spent his youth, I took great pleasure in my friendship with

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his older, wiser man. We shared a love of words and books and history.

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And, perhaps, like most politicians we shared too much great joy in

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hearing ourselves talk. But beyond that, I think, our friendship was

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rooted in the fact that I could somehow see myself in his story and

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maybe he could see himself in line. Because, for all of our differences,

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both of us had lived such unlikely lives.

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It was so surprising to see the two of us,

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where we had started. Talking together in the White House, meeting

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here, in Israel. Both of us understood we were here

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only because, in some way, we reflected the magnificent story of

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our nations. Shimon 's story, the story of Israel. The experience of

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the Jewish people. I believe it is universal. It's the story of a

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people who come over so many centuries in the wilderness, never

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gave up on that basic human longing to return home. It's a story of a

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people who suffered the boot of oppression and the shutting of the

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gas chamber's door. And, yet, never gave up on a belief in goodness.

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And it's the story of a man who was counted on and off and counted out,

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again and again, and who never lost hope.

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Shimon Peres reminds us that the state of Israel, like the United

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States of America, was not built by cynics. We exist, because people

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before us refused to be constrained by the past or the difficulties of

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the present. And Shimon Peres was never cynical.

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It is that faith, that optimism, that belief, even when all the

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evidence is to the contrary, that tomorrow can be better. That makes

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us not just on Shimon Peres, but love him. -- just honour. The last

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of the founding generation has gone and Shimon accomplish enough things

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in his life for 1000 members he understood it is better to live to

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the very end of his time on earth with a longing not for the past, but

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for the dreams that have not yet come true. Then Israel that is

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secure with a just and lasting peace with its neighbours. Now this work

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is in the hands of Israel's next generation. In the hands of Israel

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's next generation and friends. Like Joshua, we feel the weight of

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responsibility that Shimon seemed to wear so lightly. We draw strength

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from his example and the fact that he believed in us. Even when we

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doubted ourselves. Scripture tells us that before his death, Moses

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said, "I call upon heaven and earth to bear witness this day that I have

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set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Therefore,

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choose life. That you and your offspring may live.

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Choose life. Fort Shimon chose life. Let us make his work our own. May

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God bless his memory, may God bless this country and this world that he

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loved so dearly. Shimon : President Barack Obama paying

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tribute to Shimon Peres, now being embraced by members of his family.

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He said he had the capacity to see all people as deserving of dignity

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and respect. He understood true security comes from making peace

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with your neighbours. He hated prejudice, he said. He said that he

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seemed to wear the weight of responsibility lightly. Some of what

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he said echoed Bill Clinton, who spoke a little earlier. You can see

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him there, now. He spoke earlier at this service. And said how Israel

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had watched Shimon Peres grow into a wise statesman. I think this is now

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in the morning prayer. At the service.

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In our Tel Aviv studio this morning is the Former Israeli Justice

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Minister Dr Yossi Beilin who served under Shimon Peres as his cabinet

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Secretary and was instrumental in initiating the Oslo Accords.

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From Jerusalem, is the Editor in Chief of the Jerusalem Post,

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Yaakov Katz, who met the former Israeli Prime Minister several times

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as a reporter and travelled with him on official trips.

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Joining me now is Professor Yossi Mekleberg an associate fellow

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for the Middle East and North Africa at the think tank Chatham House.

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He's an expert in the politics and history of Israel.

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Thank you all for joining us. , first of all, Yossi you worked with

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him for many years, tell us what he was like.

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First of all, I loved him, I loved this man. I was very close to him,

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for many, many years. It was never boring to be with him. He was

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unusually interesting. He always could tell you things that you never

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knew about. He didn't like to waste time, which was our common

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denominator. So, he liked to work, I liked to work. . We could do many

:39:23.:39:30.

things together. What I can say about him is that he was curious in

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an unusual way. I mean, it was not that he was only cure is in some

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political issues, wanted to know about politics of other nations and

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whatever -- only curious. He was curious about everything. Which was

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difficult, for me. I was interested in many things, but not in

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everything! But, sometimes he was like a child, wanting to know more

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about everything. The last thing was his interest in the human brains.

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And another thing, he knew he was a very important person. He had his

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ego, no doubt. He had his self-confidence, no doubt. But he

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was never ever smug. In the highest point of his career, when it felt

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like he was exactly where he wanted to be, you could think that maybe

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this is a moment in which he will allow himself to be a little bit

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smug or cynical about others, to dismiss others it's never happened

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to him. He was a politician who knew what he wanted, which is quite rare.

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He had a very, very clear agenda. As an executive, he knew more than many

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others how to get there. Both President Barack Obama and Bill

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Clinton felt the need to address what some have described as naivete

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in Shimon Peres, because of his desire for peace. They said he

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absolutely was not naive, but he had that vision. How would you describe

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him? First of all, there was naivete in

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him. It is never, you know, black and white. That people are totally

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cynical or totally naive. He was old enough and experienced enough not to

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be a naive person, a dreamer, who is not connected to reality. But there

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were points of naivete. Mainly about trust in people. Sometimes, I said

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to him, Shimon, how can you trust this person? You know who he is. He

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said, no, no, no, in everybody there is positive things. I believe he

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said to me something like that, he will fulfil it. Sometimes he was

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right. Sometimes he was wrong. But, there is no doubt that he was very

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optimistic. Now, most of the wise people are pessimistic, in my view.

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But, without optimism, you cannot achieve anything. Even if he knew

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that in many cases he will not be able to implement what he wanted, he

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understood that, as an optimist, you can believe that if you are doing

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the right things, in your view, you can achieve your target. Or at least

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get close to it. But if you are pessimistic, wise as much as you can

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be wise, and you do not do things because you believe the chance is

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not big, then, for sure, nothing will happen. As the years... That

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was, perhaps, close to naivete. As the years went on and as he realised

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what might hope happen after the Oslo accords might not happen, did

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he grow close to disillusioned at all? No. On the one hand, we all

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hoped that in five years, we could get to the permanent agreement. The

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deadline was made 1999. Nothing happened under Netanyahu. Of course,

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it created frustration. But, he did not give up.

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He convinced us, the people who were his colleagues then, in the party or

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others that you have to wait longer. Apparently. The fact that we did not

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meet the deadline didn't mean that we are doomed and only we, Israelis,

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will never have peace with our neighbours. He understood that

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eventually it will happen because it is a mutual interest of the

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Palestinians and of the Israelis. Because of the extremists on both

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sides, it might take longer. But he never gave up. It was not because of

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unusual strength or whatever, he just couldn't. He couldn't. Because

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of being, if you wish, selfish, he could not give up on it and we could

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not give up on it. Yaakov Katz editor in chief of the Jerusalem

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Post, obviously, he had his ideals, optimism about peace, but it was

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founded in a pragmatism for the protection of Israel. And he made

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sure that Israel's defence industry was strong. No question about it.

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Shimon Peres, I think is beyond just being about a founding father and

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one of the members of the founding generation of the state of Israel in

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having a hand in building the state. Mostly known for building the

:44:55.:44:58.

military as we know today. He was the one who crafted the deal in the

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midnight and 50s for Israel to obtain a nuclear reactor from the

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French around the Suez crisis -- mid-19 50s. He opened the doors to

:45:07.:45:11.

France to get France as Israel's main strategic partner and combat

:45:12.:45:16.

air -- aircraft. Over the years, that was what he was known for, he

:45:17.:45:20.

built up the Israel air space industries which is an international

:45:21.:45:21.

conglomerate today. He is possibly the world leader when

:45:22.:45:32.

it comes to drones, electronic warfare and other systems. You can

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attribute those things to Shimon Peres. But, I think, at the same

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time, you genuinely believe that a peace deal with the Palestinians and

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the separation from them, the establishment of a Palestinian state

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no doubt including the removal of many Israeli settlements in the West

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back was part of the Israeli interest, part of a vision in

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keeping Israel strong, ensuring its strength and survival in the face of

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the multitude of threats and challenges it faces in the region.

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That is what made him unique. On the one hand he was a hawk when it came

:46:08.:46:12.

to Israeli security and military, but when you look at his vision of

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the new Middle East, how Israel should separate from the

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Palestinians and give them a state which is something that, let's say,

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people on the right and even some members of the current Israeli

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government believe is wrong and too dangerous, Peres would have argued

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that this is part of the way of keeping Israel strong. It is part of

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one overarching vision. Yaakov Katz, thank you for joining us. Dr Yossi

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Beilin, I hope you can remain with us for a few minutes longer. With me

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in the studio I have Professor Yossi Mekleberg from Regents University,

:46:52.:46:57.

the director of social sciences. How did you see the legacy of Shimon

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Peres? Gulp it is so difficult to talk about the legacy of someone who

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was active politically in Israeli life for seven decades, just to sum

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it up in a sentence. I think Dr Yossi Beilin express the complexity

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of the man and the revolution of his thinking. He is the product of the

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history that he lived, from the Holocaust and post-Holocaust and

:47:24.:47:29.

independence, the Cold War, to globalisation. In many ways, he

:47:30.:47:34.

evolved with the world and saw the changes. He had this intellectual

:47:35.:47:38.

capacity that many politicians don't have, to change his mind and to

:47:39.:47:43.

understand that it was right at a certain point but not necessarily

:47:44.:47:48.

right at another point. So at one point it was red phase rail to be a

:47:49.:47:56.

strong military power, -- it was right for Israel to be a strong

:47:57.:48:00.

military power, but also to understand that this -- that of

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Israel wants to stay... They need to extend the hand of peace towards the

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Palestinians and acceptability within the region. I obviously did

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not know Shimon Peres as well as Dr Yossi Beilin, but in the meeting of

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a small British delegation you could see some of the dreams, but not a

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daydreamer. It is a vision. When he talks... Why are you talking to me

:48:34.:48:37.

about boulders, talk to me about the digital age. We need to talk about a

:48:38.:48:43.

Middle East that is not a low-wage economy, people involved in hi-tech.

:48:44.:48:47.

So it is this capacity of renewal that I have not seen in any other

:48:48.:48:53.

politician. Dr Yossi Beilin, a man with the huge legacy, a man with the

:48:54.:48:56.

enormous ability, as you have described. Why did he never win a

:48:57.:49:05.

popular mandate at an election? Well, he won once in 84, he became

:49:06.:49:22.

the Prime Minister. Then he got the real popular support. Otherwise, you

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got 50% in 96, which was a tragedy. I believe that had he then be the

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Prime Minister of Israel, we could have achieved peace with the

:49:32.:49:37.

Palestinians by 1999. I think that what happened to him, if we talk

:49:38.:49:41.

about popularity, is that he was very popular when he was a hawkish

:49:42.:49:49.

leader in the Labour Party, because then he could get the support of one

:49:50.:49:58.

of its leaders, and on the other hand the support of the

:49:59.:50:03.

centre-right. When he moved in the 70s, 80s and, of course, the 90s,

:50:04.:50:13.

them all dovish part of the political arena in Israel, he lost

:50:14.:50:18.

the centre-right, and he was left with the centre-left and the left,

:50:19.:50:22.

which made it very very difficult for him to win again. When he was

:50:23.:50:31.

nominated as the leader of his party after the resignation of Yitzhak

:50:32.:50:35.

Rabin and 77, he was nominated because he was the most popular

:50:36.:50:42.

leader in that party, as a minister of defence who was considered a real

:50:43.:50:47.

hawk. When he became dovish, at least in the perception of the

:50:48.:50:52.

people, rightly so, I believe, you lost part of the support and

:50:53.:50:58.

regained it only when he became president. And, in a way, he gave up

:50:59.:51:04.

on actually speaking his mind loudly enough. Professor Yossi Mekleberg,

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is that the eternal conundrum, effectively, in Israel, trying to

:51:16.:51:19.

get the right balance between hawkish and being a dove, the need

:51:20.:51:22.

for popular support and the desire for peace? You need to won an

:51:23.:51:29.

election on a platform that you need to change completely your glove for

:51:30.:51:35.

the sake of the country. But I think there is a way to combine, and

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Shimon Peres managed to combine it for many years. It was not as

:51:42.:51:45.

popular when he was a politician, then he became a father figure as a

:51:46.:51:52.

president. But there is a real conundrum. I think it is wrong in

:51:53.:51:57.

Israeli politics that you had to be very strong in negotiation. You have

:51:58.:52:01.

to be strong negotiation but you need to have a strategy and a

:52:02.:52:05.

long-term vision about peace, which the current Government 's not have.

:52:06.:52:12.

I think Shimon Perez is the only politician in Israeli history that

:52:13.:52:17.

has had both at the same time, the village -- the vision of strength,

:52:18.:52:23.

but with the need to be generous in negotiations. I think at the end of

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the day, more than it was Shimon Peres loss for not serving as Prime

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Minister, it was the loss of the country. Thank you very much, Dr

:52:37.:52:42.

Yossi Beilin. The body of Shimon Peres will be laid to rest in a

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burial plots between Yitzhak Rabin and another former Prime Minister.

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That'll be happening shortly. For now, we will leave injuries. -- will

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leave events injuries. -- in Gerry Solano.

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In around about two and a half hours, the Rosetta spacecraft

:53:09.:53:12.

will crash land on a comet it has been orbiting for two years.

:53:13.:53:15.

It'll bring to an end a twelve year mission by the European Space Agency

:53:16.:53:18.

to try to gather data, which could eventually tell us how

:53:19.:53:21.

It's pretty big stuff and since being launched into space,

:53:22.:53:24.

Rosetta has travelled billions of miles.

:53:25.:53:26.

It is sent back thousands of images and even landed a Robert onto the

:53:27.:53:30.

surface of the comet. Now there is just the small matter of crushing

:53:31.:53:32.

itself into a frozen peas of cosmic debris travelling through space at

:53:33.:53:33.

around 30,000 miles an hour. Oh, I'm just so happy,

:53:34.:53:38.

it's just wonderful! We've waited so long

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and now it's happening! Let's talk now to Sarah

:54:23.:54:56.

Cruddas, who's a space And Paul McMahon, he works

:54:57.:54:58.

for Airbus which built the Rosetta spacecraft - he's responsible

:54:59.:55:01.

for the 'reaction wheels' which basically control the movement

:55:02.:55:03.

of it, and he had to fix them when they failed

:55:04.:55:06.

on the other side of Jupiter. We will get you to explain how you

:55:07.:55:15.

did that. Sarah, it has been described as you's moon landing

:55:16.:55:20.

moment. Really? I think we take for granted how much we have done in

:55:21.:55:25.

space, but we had an very little. We have not sent humans back to the

:55:26.:55:29.

Moon" years, we have never landed on a comet until this mission happened.

:55:30.:55:34.

It had an epic journey across the solar system. The technical

:55:35.:55:40.

equivalent of this was landing a fly on a speeding bullet. At the moment,

:55:41.:55:46.

the comet is moving at around 14 kilometres a second. We have managed

:55:47.:55:49.

to send a spacecraft from Earth, which was dreams up in the

:55:50.:55:54.

mid-1980s, send it to this comet, chase it across the solar system,

:55:55.:55:58.

study how life might have come to be. Comets were around at the early

:55:59.:56:03.

solar system we think they might have ceded a very young earth with

:56:04.:56:07.

the potential ingredients for life. We are updating the jigsaw pieces

:56:08.:56:10.

together and we have never done something like this before, it is an

:56:11.:56:14.

Apollo moment in terms of exploration. It is great for Europe,

:56:15.:56:19.

it is just huge ad incredible. Lots of people have worked very hard. It

:56:20.:56:23.

was an expensive mission, but you get a lot of innovation and

:56:24.:56:27.

technology back from. It is a game changeable to stop it is the next

:56:28.:56:31.

piece in the jigsaw of asking the fundamental questions of who we are,

:56:32.:56:37.

where we came from, why we exist, is there life beyond the solar system

:56:38.:56:41.

and in the solar system? All these questions, extraordinary claims

:56:42.:56:44.

require extraordinary evidence, as a MIDI wants that. We are piecing

:56:45.:56:48.

together evidence to answer fundamental questions about our

:56:49.:56:52.

existence. Paul, I said you are effectively responsible for the

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wheels? There four reaction wheels on board Rosetta, used to point the

:56:58.:57:00.

spacecraft whenever they want to image something or reorient the

:57:01.:57:05.

spacecraft. There was a problem with them, and it is quite a long way

:57:06.:57:12.

away?! After Rosetta flew past a comet in 2008, we noticed that the

:57:13.:57:16.

friction that one of the wheels was increasing, so we had to work on it,

:57:17.:57:20.

change the parameters, managed to really book eight it when it was

:57:21.:57:25.

orbiting Jupiter, so that when it came out of hibernation in January

:57:26.:57:29.

2014, it started at the wheels again, things were running much

:57:30.:57:33.

better. If that had not been fixed, it would have been kaput? It would

:57:34.:57:39.

not have been a kaput mission, but it would have been a degraded

:57:40.:57:42.

mission. They could not have used the reaction wheels as they wanted,

:57:43.:57:47.

they would have had to rely more on thrusters. Looking at the orbit of

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Rosetta, it is a triangular shaped orbit. Every time the spacecraft

:57:52.:57:59.

goes round one of the corners of the triangle, the reaction wheels rotate

:58:00.:58:02.

the spacecraft and pointed in a new direction. They were working very,

:58:03.:58:06.

very hard. Sarah, you have described what was

:58:07.:58:10.

done as like landing a fly on a moving bullet, that brings it home

:58:11.:58:14.

when you talk about that. In terms of what is being done today, why is

:58:15.:58:20.

it being crashed into the comet? Its panels will not get enough energy or

:58:21.:58:24.

heat from the sun to keep it away, because it is going so far away. It

:58:25.:58:30.

could be sent to sleep. The comet orbits around the earth, it takes

:58:31.:58:34.

about six years to orbit around the sun. We could put was that it sleep

:58:35.:58:39.

and maybe wake it up, it probably would not wake up and it could just

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end up as space junk, space debris. As humans we have always generated

:58:45.:58:49.

waste. I am talking about colliding with a comet, it is the final piece

:58:50.:58:54.

of science in the mission, I really interesting area where they will try

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to land Rosetta. As soon as it collides we will not get further

:58:58.:59:02.

communication, but we will get lots of closer pictures. This but they

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have picked is rather flat, it is almost like goose bumps, embryos of

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comments. It will help us understand more about how comets form. You hear

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about words like solar systems, comets etc, but we don't know the

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exact and says about many things, so it is helping along the way in terms

:59:23.:59:27.

of science and potential. The amount of research and data and information

:59:28.:59:32.

means that kids at school now who might be interested in space, if

:59:33.:59:36.

they become a scientist in 20 or 30 years, they will be studying data

:59:37.:59:45.

from this mission, so it is not over in terms of research and exciting

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developments. Very cool, thank you. Get in touch

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if you have any thoughts on that, now mat has the weather.

:59:52.:59:57.

A cool breeze will bring in showers. They have been most frequent across

:59:58.:00:03.

western area so far. If you will make towards the east in the

:00:04.:00:08.

afternoon. Big gaps between some of the showers, many staying completely

:00:09.:00:13.

dry through the day. Not far off yesterday's values, 12 to 19

:00:14.:00:18.

degrees. As showers go through you will notice a chill in the wind.

:00:19.:00:22.

Showers continuing this evening, fading away from northern and

:00:23.:00:26.

western parts, by and large. They get close to Wales and the later,

:00:27.:00:33.

more showers pushing in and longer spells of rain. Into the start of

:00:34.:00:36.

the weekend, eastern England, northern Scotland, Northern Ireland,

:00:37.:00:40.

temperatures could be cold enough for frost in sunspots.

:00:41.:00:46.

Saturday is a story of two Hobbs, Scotland, Northern Ireland and

:00:47.:00:50.

northern England, not many showers. Wales Midlands, East Anglia and

:00:51.:00:54.

seven counties, generally cloudy with outbreaks of rain. Temperatures

:00:55.:00:59.

around 11 or 12 Celsius. A few brighter spells between the showers

:01:00.:01:04.

later, generally a cool day. Shallots fade away through Saturday,

:01:05.:01:08.

lasting longer into the night through East Anglia and the

:01:09.:01:12.

south-east. -- showers fade away through Saturday. Frost around

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Scotland, Northern Ireland, parts of north-west England, a lovely,

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autumnal day nonetheless. I'm back at 11am.

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Good morning, I'm Joanna Gosling, it's 10am.

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World leaders have been paying tribute to Israel's former

:01:26.:01:27.

Prince Charles and Boris Johnson are amongst the hundreds of people

:01:28.:01:30.

US President Barack Obama gave a 20 minute eulogy.

:01:31.:01:36.

Shimon accomplished enough things in his life for a 1000 men.

:01:37.:01:43.

But he understood that it's better to live to the very end

:01:44.:01:46.

of his time on Earth, not with a longing for the past,

:01:47.:01:49.

but for the dreams that have not yet come true.

:01:50.:01:51.

The end is nigh for the spacecraft Rosetta,

:01:52.:01:55.

as it prepares to crash-land into the comet it's been studying

:01:56.:01:57.

We are live at the European Space Agency.

:01:58.:02:02.

And later, a drug charity says it's saved hundreds of lives

:02:03.:02:04.

It's a year since a change in the law made it possible

:02:05.:02:08.

for an heroin antidote to be given out to friends and relatives to use

:02:09.:02:12.

on addicts who are in danger of overdosing.

:02:13.:02:23.

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:02:24.:02:28.

Leaders from around the world are gathered in Jerusalem this

:02:29.:02:33.

morning to pay their final respects to Israel's former President

:02:34.:02:36.

The 93-year-old Nobel Peace Prize winner suffered a stroke, two weeks

:02:37.:02:40.

Prince Charles and Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson are among those

:02:41.:02:54.

attending the funeral in Jerusalem. The American President, Barack Obama

:02:55.:03:00.

paid tribute to Peres as a man of conviction and faith.

:03:01.:03:02.

Shimon could be true to his convictions, even if they cut

:03:03.:03:05.

against the grain of current opinion.

:03:06.:03:09.

He knew better than the cynic that if you look out

:03:10.:03:12.

over the arc of history, human beings should be filled not

:03:13.:03:15.

I'm sure that's why he was so excited about technology,

:03:16.:03:26.

because, for him, it symbolised the march of human progress.

:03:27.:03:29.

And it's why he loved, so much, to talk about young people.

:03:30.:03:34.

Because he saw young people unburdened by

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Because, in Israel, he saw a miracle come true.

:03:37.:03:55.

It's one of the most daring missions ever undertaken by a spacecraft,

:03:56.:03:58.

but the 12-year journey by the Rosetta probe

:03:59.:04:00.

In a few hours, it will be deliberately crashed into the comet

:04:01.:04:04.

67P, which it has been tracking for the past two years.

:04:05.:04:07.

Rosetta is so far out in space that its solar powered

:04:08.:04:10.

instruments are failing, but scientists say its findings will

:04:11.:04:12.

The most senior lawyer working for the independent inquiry

:04:13.:04:18.

into historical allegations of child sex abuse has resigned.

:04:19.:04:21.

Ben Emmerson, who was suspended from the inquiry yesterday

:04:22.:04:23.

after what were said to be questions about his leadership,

:04:24.:04:25.

has denied falling out with the chairwoman,

:04:26.:04:27.

The investigation was formally set up 18 months ago

:04:28.:04:33.

to look at failures by institutions, such as schools and hospitals,

:04:34.:04:35.

to protect children in England and Wales.

:04:36.:04:37.

Questions have been raised about the inquiry's future,

:04:38.:04:39.

but the Prime Minister Theresa May has defended its work.

:04:40.:04:47.

The assistant manager of Southampton Football Club has

:04:48.:04:49.

become the latest figure implicated in the Daily Telegraph's

:04:50.:04:51.

investigation into football corruption.

:04:52.:04:53.

The paper says Eric Black has been secretly filmed allegedly advising

:04:54.:04:55.

undercover reporters how to bribe staff at lower league clubs.

:04:56.:04:57.

A spokesperson for Southampton said the club was investigating

:04:58.:05:00.

The Chief Constable of South Yorkshire Police has said

:05:01.:05:09.

he'll take legal action after the region's Police

:05:10.:05:11.

and Crime Commissioner asked him to resign.

:05:12.:05:14.

David Crompton was suspended from his role following

:05:15.:05:16.

the Hillsborough inquest verdicts in April.

:05:17.:05:18.

The PCC Alan Billings says he should quit because he had led a force that

:05:19.:05:21.

put its own reputation first before considering victims.

:05:22.:05:23.

Mr Crompton says he'll challenge that in the high court.

:05:24.:05:26.

Mr Crompton says he'll challenge that in the High Court.

:05:27.:05:35.

Shares in Deutsche Bank, Europe's second-largest lender,

:05:36.:05:37.

have fallen sharply amid reports that some hedge funds

:05:38.:05:39.

There have been questions about the bank's stability,

:05:40.:05:44.

since news emerged that it is facing a penalty of up to $14 billion

:05:45.:05:47.

in the US for mis-selling mortgage-backed securities.

:05:48.:05:55.

Police searching for the missing toddler Ben Needham on the Greek

:05:56.:06:00.

island of Kos have been asked to call off their work,

:06:01.:06:04.

by the owner of the land they are digging up.

:06:05.:06:07.

It follows the announcement yesterday that a number of graves

:06:08.:06:12.

dating back 1,500 years had been found on the site

:06:13.:06:14.

where it is believed Ben Needham went missing more

:06:15.:06:17.

Our correspondent, Danny Savage, is in Kos with the latest.

:06:18.:06:20.

Well, this is the search site in Kos for the investigation into the

:06:21.:06:23.

For the time being, work is continuing as normal.

:06:24.:06:31.

We have a digger outlying strips of dirt, which has been dug

:06:32.:06:34.

up from a neighbouring olive grove and once they are out, searchers

:06:35.:06:37.

will come through them with rakes, to see if they can find anything of

:06:38.:06:40.

How long work will continue here, like this, is a bit

:06:41.:06:44.

Because, you can see them continuing to dig over here, where the cesspit

:06:45.:06:50.

They're continuing to dig there, to see if they can find any evidence.

:06:51.:06:59.

But, beyond there, yesterday, a number of graves were found.

:07:00.:07:02.

Four or five adults, dating back some 1,500 years.

:07:03.:07:04.

The landowner, we understand, has approached South Yorkshire Police

:07:05.:07:11.

and asked them to stop work in that olive grove, which is the focus

:07:12.:07:15.

All the earth being searched through here is coming from that field

:07:16.:07:20.

beyond this house, which is where Ben Needham was last seen alive.

:07:21.:07:23.

If the work stops there, that will cause serious issues

:07:24.:07:25.

for the British police, here, because this is day

:07:26.:07:28.

They found nothing of significance, so far and

:07:29.:07:35.

if they have to stop, it could jeopardise

:07:36.:07:37.

So, in the last few minutes, Jon Cousins, the senior

:07:38.:07:40.

investigating officer from South Yorkshire Police has headed off down

:07:41.:07:43.

to the local magistrates to see if he can clarify the

:07:44.:07:45.

He says this work is too important to have to stop now.

:07:46.:07:51.

It's important to Ben Needham's family,

:07:52.:07:52.

Determination from South Yorkshire Police to continue this

:07:53.:07:57.

investigation on this Greek island but will it fall victim to the legal

:07:58.:08:00.

process here and the very strict rules regarding the discovery of

:08:01.:08:02.

archaeological remains, which have been found, here?

:08:03.:08:16.

If you're in your 30s, you're probably only half as wealthy

:08:17.:08:19.

as someone who is now in their 40s was, at the same age.

:08:20.:08:22.

That's according to research from the Institute for Fiscal Studies

:08:23.:08:25.

that found people in their early 30s now have an average net household

:08:26.:08:29.

wealth of ?27,000 per adult compared to ?53,000 for those born

:08:30.:08:32.

in the 1970s when they were at the same stage.

:08:33.:08:34.

The study found the property boom and generous pensions

:08:35.:08:35.

Making the best of it, but this is the generation

:08:36.:08:37.

Early-30s, struggling to get on the housing ladder,

:08:38.:08:42.

shelling out for rent, instead of a pension.

:08:43.:08:47.

It was very much everyone was spending on credit cards that

:08:48.:08:50.

were limitless, and people could get another one and another one.

:08:51.:08:53.

And I think people didn't think they needed a plan, really.

:08:54.:08:55.

And I grew up in that scenario, as a little boy.

:08:56.:09:00.

It is hard to try and get a place of my own, as well, as it is.

:09:01.:09:06.

I'd like to get to maybe house-sharing stage,

:09:07.:09:08.

or renting, but I think that what is the norm now is renting.

:09:09.:09:11.

It's getting a lot more like Europe, I think.

:09:12.:09:13.

I think it's becoming a bit of a daydream,

:09:14.:09:15.

The stark numbers are that the average wealth of this

:09:16.:09:21.

group, born in the early 1980s, is ?27,000 each, including home

:09:22.:09:24.

and savings, while those only ten years old had wealth by the same

:09:25.:09:27.

stage in their lives of ?53,000, helped by house prices and the value

:09:28.:09:30.

If we look across the country as a whole, on average, those born

:09:31.:09:40.

in the '80s have half the wealth of those

:09:41.:09:42.

born ten years earlier did, at the same age.

:09:43.:09:45.

And when we look at their incomes, they look about the same.

:09:46.:09:48.

But renters are spending a bigger share of their

:09:49.:09:50.

That bigger share, who don't own a home.

:09:51.:09:56.

That's crucial, because young adults now paying high rents

:09:57.:10:00.

are watching older generations pull far ahead, as far

:10:01.:10:02.

And, when they're older, they're likely to have stingier

:10:03.:10:05.

A 28-year-old man has appeared in court

:10:06.:10:26.

charged with the murders of two shopworkers in Cardiff

:10:27.:10:28.

Andrew Patrick Saunders spoke to confirm his name,

:10:29.:10:31.

He was remanded in custody and will appear before crown court

:10:32.:10:35.

Prince George and Princess Charlotte were the star guests at a children's

:10:36.:10:44.

tea party in Canada on the latest leg of the Royal

:10:45.:10:47.

The grounds of Government House, the home of the Lieutenant Governor

:10:48.:10:50.

of British Columbia, was the venue for the event,

:10:51.:10:52.

which featured balloons, a petting zoo, and miniature ponies.

:10:53.:10:55.

Our Royal Correspondent Peter Hunt reports.

:10:56.:10:58.

A lifetime of waving and welcoming awaits 16-month-old

:10:59.:11:04.

Princess Charlotte, but for now, fun, not formality, is the focus.

:11:05.:11:13.

Pop, she says, as she tries her hardest to do just that.

:11:14.:11:17.

For the Prince, another attraction is here.

:11:18.:11:30.

It will gladden his great grandmother, though

:11:31.:11:42.

the Queen may wish he stayed astride for longer.

:11:43.:11:45.

It's much more fun as a toddler squirting bubbles at your dad.

:11:46.:11:48.

Even if he is the future king of Canada and the UK.

:11:49.:11:52.

A children's party can be a mesmerising affair.

:11:53.:11:54.

For Charlotte, though, there's one part of it

:11:55.:11:56.

Balloons are the way to this Princess's heart,

:11:57.:12:03.

and an entertainer was here to indulge her in the grounds

:12:04.:12:06.

of Government House, where the other guests

:12:07.:12:15.

Royal sibling rivalry is alive and well.

:12:16.:12:20.

It's rare to see Prince George and Princess Charlotte.

:12:21.:12:22.

William and Kate are determined their children grow up in private

:12:23.:12:27.

Peter Hunt, BBC News, Victoria, British Columbia.

:12:28.:12:35.

Italian police have recovered two Van Gogh paintings that

:12:36.:12:37.

They are the 1882 work Seascape at Scheveningen and a later work,

:12:38.:12:43.

Congregation leaving the Reformed Church in Nuenen.

:12:44.:12:45.

Police in Naples discovered the paintings during

:12:46.:12:47.

Pandas are notoriously reluctant to reproduce but one breeding centre

:12:48.:12:55.

in South West China is having a bumper year.

:12:56.:12:58.

23 baby pandas have made their public debut in Cheng-du.

:12:59.:13:01.

Since it was set up nearly 30 years ago, the centre has

:13:02.:13:04.

bred 176 giant pandas, the world's largest

:13:05.:13:06.

artificially-bred giant panda population.

:13:07.:13:18.

I don't know how much they've bumped up the world panda population but by

:13:19.:13:22.

quite a lot, I think. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:13:23.:13:24.

News, more at 10:30am. Thank you, certainly scoring very

:13:25.:13:29.

high on the cuteness factor. So sure was Darren Clarke

:13:30.:13:37.

about his opening pairing for the Ryder Cup that he had

:13:38.:13:40.

decided on them even before He's chosen two golfers who had

:13:41.:13:43.

a 100% record two years ago They are Justin Rose,

:13:44.:13:47.

the Olympic champion being introduced to the crowd

:13:48.:13:50.

at the opening ceremony last night, and Henrik Stenson,

:13:51.:13:52.

the Open champion. They'll take on Jordan Spieth

:13:53.:13:57.

and Patrick Reed at just One player that has to wait

:13:58.:13:59.

until later is Danny Willett. The Masters champion isn't part

:14:00.:14:07.

of the foursomes, but, according to his captain,

:14:08.:14:09.

not because of what his brother said in his recent magazine column

:14:10.:14:12.

when he described the American fans When I had to explain to the guys,

:14:13.:14:25.

tell the guys who are not playing tomorrow morning, they are all

:14:26.:14:27.

playing well and are disappointed they are not playing but there is a

:14:28.:14:31.

reason behind it. I have a plan, what I will try to execute, this

:14:32.:14:36.

week. Danny is fine, he's ready to go, he wants to play. He's like all

:14:37.:14:40.

the guys, he's disappointed he's not playing in the morning but he

:14:41.:14:44.

understands what I am trying to do is for the team. There is no

:14:45.:14:49.

individual in our 12. It's about the team.

:14:50.:14:51.

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has said it is possible he could one day

:14:52.:14:55.

manage England if he had no club commitments.

:14:56.:14:56.

His contract at the Emirates runs out at the end of the season,

:14:57.:15:00.

and England are looking for a new manager after

:15:01.:15:02.

Gareth Southgate will see them through the next four matches.

:15:03.:15:09.

After a week of three defeats in a row, Manchester United have

:15:10.:15:12.

now won three in a row, and they're off the bottom

:15:13.:15:14.

of their Europa League group thanks to a 1-0 win over the Ukrainian side

:15:15.:15:18.

United had 70% of the ball but it took until the 70th

:15:19.:15:21.

minute to have their first effort on target.

:15:22.:15:24.

And Zlatan Ibrahimovic tucked it away after

:15:25.:15:26.

It's been confirmed Rooney will stay on as England captain,

:15:27.:15:33.

but Jose Mourinho decided to leave him on the bench again

:15:34.:15:35.

for the club's first European win of the season.

:15:36.:15:45.

Southampton are top of their Europa League group

:15:46.:15:47.

after picking up a point against Israeli champions

:15:48.:15:49.

Virgil Van Dyke had a great early chance for Saints but his header

:15:50.:15:55.

almost resulted in a throw in, somewhat summing up a terrible game.

:15:56.:16:00.

It finished goalless, and both sides have four points in Group K.

:16:01.:16:05.

Lewis Hamilton says he needs to drive better in Malaysia this

:16:06.:16:08.

weekend to get his world title campaign back on track.

:16:09.:16:10.

And he did just that, clocking the quickest time

:16:11.:16:12.

of the day in second practice at Sepang.

:16:13.:16:14.

He was almost a quarter of a second ahead of his Mercedes

:16:15.:16:17.

team mate Nico Rosberg, who leads the drivers' championship

:16:18.:16:19.

But the most dramatic moment of the day involved Kevin Magnussen.

:16:20.:16:32.

The Dane was fortunate to escape unharmed when his Renault caught

:16:33.:16:34.

It took several attempts by his mechanics to put it out

:16:35.:16:38.

Back at the Ryder Cup there is always a lot

:16:39.:16:41.

of passion shown by the fans, who often think

:16:42.:16:43.

Well, there's one who actually could.

:16:44.:16:47.

Rory McIlroy and Andy Sullivan had a few attempts at a 12-foot

:16:48.:16:50.

putt on the 8th hole and missed every time.

:16:51.:16:52.

There came a heckle from the crowd and Henrik Stenson told fan

:16:53.:16:56.

David Johnson, "Come on, then, you have a go!"

:16:57.:17:00.

Justin Rose made it interesting, putting $100 dollars next

:17:01.:17:04.

to the ball, and Johnson drilled it into the hole.

:17:05.:17:13.

He celebrated in just the way you would expect an American fan to

:17:14.:17:27.

celebrate at the Ryder Cup. Back to you, Joanna

:17:28.:17:29.

That is great, thank you. In around about two and a half

:17:30.:17:31.

hours, the Rosetta spacecraft will crash land on the comet it has

:17:32.:17:35.

been orbiting and studying It'll bring an end to

:17:36.:17:37.

an amazing 12-year mission by the European Space Agency

:17:38.:17:41.

to try to gather data from the comet data, which could help us discover

:17:42.:17:44.

how our solar system was created. Since being launched into space,

:17:45.:17:47.

Rosetta has travelled billions of miles, sent back thousands

:17:48.:17:49.

of images and even landed a robot Now there's just the small matter

:17:50.:17:52.

of crashing itself, at something approaching walking pace speed,

:17:53.:17:56.

into a frozen piece of cosmic debris travelling through space

:17:57.:17:59.

at about 30,000 miles an hour. We can speak to Rebecca Morelle, our

:18:00.:18:15.

correspondent at mission control in Germany. It is almost over for

:18:16.:18:21.

Rosetta, tell us about how they are feeling? Not too long to go. The

:18:22.:18:26.

Rosetta spacecraft is currently in freefall, heading for a gentle

:18:27.:18:32.

collision. It will not be an explosive impact with the surface of

:18:33.:18:36.

the comet, but it will finish the spacecraft. There is a mix of

:18:37.:18:40.

emotions from the team. There is the pride in what the mission has

:18:41.:18:44.

achieved, it was conceived in the 1980s, the idea to do this. It is

:18:45.:18:51.

one of the most bold and, in some ways, bonkers space missions ever

:18:52.:18:56.

attempted. The idea of hunting a comet down that speeding through the

:18:57.:19:00.

solar system, take ten years to get there, put a spacecraft in orbit

:19:01.:19:04.

around it, land something on that. But all things had to come to an

:19:05.:19:09.

end, so pride and then sadness. But rather than letting the spacecraft

:19:10.:19:12.

fade into oblivion, because the problem is that the comet is moving

:19:13.:19:17.

away from the sun at the moment and resented his solar powered, it will

:19:18.:19:21.

run out of power a eventually. -- and Rosetta is solar powered. So

:19:22.:19:30.

they are dumping it on the surface of the comet, where it will remain

:19:31.:19:33.

for a very long time to come. There is real sadness from the team, one

:19:34.:19:36.

of the scientists I spoke to had a pack of tissues, he said he has

:19:37.:19:40.

cried at every stage so will be crying at the end of the mission. A

:19:41.:19:46.

real mix at Mission HQ. It has cost a huge amount, troubled

:19:47.:19:51.

a huge distance, what has been achieved? What is known now that was

:19:52.:19:59.

not known before Rosetta's mission? The mission has totally transformed

:20:00.:20:04.

our understanding of comets. We knew that comets were balls of ice and

:20:05.:20:09.

dust whizzing around the solar system. But when you look at the

:20:10.:20:13.

first images that came back, the shape and the geological complexity,

:20:14.:20:18.

the mountains on the surface, the cracks, the boulders the size of

:20:19.:20:22.

houses, it is a really interesting place just to look at, for starters.

:20:23.:20:28.

Comets are really imparted to study, they are relics from the dawn of the

:20:29.:20:32.

solar system -- really important to study. They are practically

:20:33.:20:37.

unchanged for 4.6 billion years. If you can get onto the surface of a

:20:38.:20:43.

comet and study it in detail, like the Philae robot did, it is like a

:20:44.:20:50.

time capsule. We found out that the comet has chemicals on their recent

:20:51.:20:54.

to life, so there is an idea that a crash landing from a comet into the

:20:55.:20:59.

earth delivered to these chemicals here and kick-started life here. If

:21:00.:21:04.

you find these things, you can find about the origins of planets,

:21:05.:21:08.

origins of the Earth and our origin, too. The observations will stop, but

:21:09.:21:13.

scientists recommend have enough to keep them busy for decades to come.

:21:14.:21:19.

Joining the dots from what you describe as a relic from the dawn of

:21:20.:21:26.

the solar system to how planets became, there is a huge amount of

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distance between those two. How on earth do you join those dots? What

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happens now? Basically, the idea is that you just have a bucket load of

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data. The two years that the Rosetta spacecraft has been orbiting the

:21:46.:21:49.

comet, there are 11 instruments are. It has recorded the gases coming

:21:50.:21:54.

off, the chemical make-up, the temperature. The magnetic field

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around it. That sort of thing. And also the data that came back from

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Philae. But then you had to take it back and study, it will take time.

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You need to find out what is there and how it fits together. We have

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models of what happened at the very start up the solar system. If you

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have the raw material, you can chuck that information into those models

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and that will give you a better idea of what happened. The science is one

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legacy of this. One thing is how it has captured the public's

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imagination. This is a robotic mission. People have an affinity

:22:32.:22:35.

with the spacecraft that went down two years ago. There must have been

:22:36.:22:38.

kids there watching their coverage couple of years ago of the Philae

:22:39.:22:44.

landing thinking that being a scientist sounds really quite fun

:22:45.:22:50.

and interesting as a job, so there is also that and the ambition of

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this. The mission goes to show that you can have really bold ideas,

:22:54.:22:58.

hunting down a comet, getting to orbit around it, landing on it costs

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a lot of money. It takes a lot of guts to do it. It might have gone

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horribly wrong. If you have these big ideas and you can achieve them,

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that is also fantastic. That will be important for the space missions to

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come into in the future. The Rosetta mission has held up exactly what you

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can do in terms of space science, that will be a real legacy. Thank

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you, Rebecca. A short time ago I spoke to Paul

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McMahon, who built the wheels on the Rosetta.

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There are four reaction wheels which are used

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to point the spacecraft where they want to image something

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or re-orientate the spacecraft on a new trajectory.

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There was a problem with them, wasn't there?

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What a long way away, explain what happened.

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After Rosetta flew past, comet is in 2008, we noticed

:23:55.:23:56.

that the friction on one of the wheels was increasing,

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We changed some of the parameters and we managed to read lubricated

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-- really lubricate it while it was out by Jupiter.

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So that when it came out of hibernation, in January, 2014,

:24:12.:24:13.

they started up the wheels again and things were running much better.

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So, presumably, that was fundamental.

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If that hadn't have been fixed that would have been kaput?

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No, it would not have been kaput to the mission,

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but it would it would have been a degraded mission

:24:24.:24:25.

because they would not have been able to use the reaction wheels

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They would have had to rely more on the thrusters.

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If you look at the orbit of Rosetta round the comment,

:24:32.:24:34.

basically a triangular-shaped orbit, every time the spacecraft goes

:24:35.:24:36.

round one of the corners of the triangle, the reaction wheels

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and rotate the space craft and point it in a new direction,

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Let's talk to Monica Grady, who joins us from Darmstadt.

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She's a Professor of Planetary and Space Science at

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the Open University, based at the European Space Agency.

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Thank you very much for joining us. Before I ask how you are feeling, I

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want to just show everyone how you are feeling and reacting two years

:25:04.:25:07.

ago when the Rosetta dropped the Philae lander on the comet.

:25:08.:25:10.

I think you were quite excited. I was mildly pleased, yes. What has

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got you so excited about this mission? I have been involved with

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it for a long time. I was looking to day as a picture that was drawn of

:25:50.:25:56.

the instrument that I have been associated with, it was run in 1993.

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This is the first schematic diagram. I have been looking into the science

:26:03.:26:05.

of comets since well before then. To go through the journey of Rosetta

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and the Philae, of course, and come to the end, it has been huge part of

:26:13.:26:17.

my scientific career. Our science correspondent Rebecca said it was a

:26:18.:26:21.

bold and bonkers project. Did you ever think it would be possible to

:26:22.:26:25.

achieve what has been achieved, landing a probe on a comet?

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I take issue with the bonkers. It was certainly bold. You don't start

:26:32.:26:37.

out a mission thinking that you will not be able to achieve it, you

:26:38.:26:42.

started thinking, yes, actually, it is really well planned, the

:26:43.:26:46.

engineers know what they are doing. Then something goes wrong like, oh,

:26:47.:26:51.

crikey, the launch was postponed for a year. And you have to look for

:26:52.:26:54.

another commentary target, which is what happened. And you think, OK, we

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have not had quite the information that we need. But it has been

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fantastic to trouble for 8 billion kilometres or whatever it is, a huge

:27:07.:27:10.

number of kilometres, and do the things that the Rosetta spacecraft

:27:11.:27:16.

has done, it is an enormous project and has been a huge success.

:27:17.:27:21.

With something that is so outside of the thinking of most of us, it has

:27:22.:27:26.

been hard to grapple with how significant this is and what has

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been achieved in terms of technically and everything else.

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Just try to encapsulate that for us? Technically, the landing of Philae

:27:38.:27:43.

on the comet was almost successful. It landed on its side instead of its

:27:44.:27:48.

legs. It achieved most of its objective. You had to think about

:27:49.:27:55.

the communications. I'm talking to you from Darmstadt in Germany, I can

:27:56.:27:59.

hear a tiny delay on the line. Imagine trying to talk to me if the

:28:00.:28:03.

delay was 20 minutes, which is what it is between here and Rosetta. You

:28:04.:28:08.

can't have a proper conversation, so you have to send a packet of

:28:09.:28:12.

instructions and wait for something to happen. All that programming has

:28:13.:28:17.

to be done in advance. The fact that the instruments worked as well as

:28:18.:28:22.

they did with each other on very, very low amounts of power, it has

:28:23.:28:26.

been a wonderfully cooperative venture with all these scientists

:28:27.:28:32.

throughout Europe. And to come together and then get different data

:28:33.:28:37.

from the different instruments and then talk about the data together

:28:38.:28:41.

and collaborate, to build up a much more complete picture of a comet,

:28:42.:28:46.

which is overturning the other models we have had in the past of a

:28:47.:28:52.

comet, it has just been wonderful. What have you learned, then? We have

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learned about what the comet is made from, we have seen the composition

:29:02.:29:05.

is perhaps slightly different from what we thought in terms of the

:29:06.:29:09.

minerals. Certainly with the water and the ice, the hydrogen in the

:29:10.:29:15.

water is different from how we would have predicted it to be, knowing

:29:16.:29:19.

what we do about the hydrogen in the sun and on the earth. So we had to

:29:20.:29:24.

think a lot about what happened to the water when the solar system was

:29:25.:29:29.

forming. Of course, we have found all these building blocks, the

:29:30.:29:33.

glycine, the sugars, these really important molecules essential for

:29:34.:29:37.

life. We have found those. I think the most fascinating thing is the

:29:38.:29:41.

images. When you look at these images, as Rebecca said a minute

:29:42.:29:49.

ago, the chasms, they appear to be strata, they look like riverbeds and

:29:50.:29:53.

grey seal valleys. They are not. You try to interpret them in terms of

:29:54.:29:57.

terrestrial processes, and you can't. It has built a new science

:29:58.:30:04.

of, tree morphology, which is interpreting these landforms. That

:30:05.:30:08.

is so important and so interesting -- a new science of comet

:30:09.:30:12.

morphology. They will apply to all sorts of bodies in the solar

:30:13.:30:18.

systems, moons around other planets, Pluto, asteroids. It is the

:30:19.:30:25.

beginning. The mission, the data collection part of the mission is

:30:26.:30:31.

over, but the data reduction and interpretation and understanding and

:30:32.:30:35.

application has only just started. Thank you very much, Monica.

:30:36.:30:39.

As Italian police recover two stolen Van Goghs,

:30:40.:30:42.

during an anti-mafia raid, we will get the latest on what happened

:30:43.:30:45.

Stolen from an Amsterdam museum in 2002.

:30:46.:30:52.

And research suggests if you're in your thirties you're probably

:30:53.:30:54.

only half as wealthy as someone who is now in their 40s

:30:55.:30:57.

We'll talk to the lead researcher about why this is the case.

:30:58.:31:10.

Let's catch up with all the news with Anita.

:31:11.:31:14.

Leaders from around the world are gathered in Jerusalem this

:31:15.:31:16.

morning to pay their final respects to Israel's former President

:31:17.:31:19.

The 93-year-old Nobel Peace Prize winner suffered a stroke, two weeks

:31:20.:31:22.

President Obama and Prince Charles were among those attending the

:31:23.:31:35.

funeral. Former American President Bill Clinton paid tribute as a man

:31:36.:31:38.

who dared to dream. His critics often claimed

:31:39.:31:43.

he was a naive, overly They were only wrong

:31:44.:31:45.

about the naive part. He knew exactly what he was doing,

:31:46.:31:50.

in being overly optimistic. He knew exactly what he was

:31:51.:31:55.

doing, with his dreams. A 23-year-old man has

:31:56.:32:02.

admitted causing the deaths of a boy and his aunt,

:32:03.:32:05.

who were hit by a car being chased by police

:32:06.:32:07.

in south-east London in August. Makayah McDermott and Rosie Cooper

:32:08.:32:11.

were walking along a road Joshua Dobby, of no fixed abode,

:32:12.:32:13.

acknowledged the "pain and suffering" he caused,

:32:14.:32:18.

but has denied manslaughter charges It's one of the most daring missions

:32:19.:32:21.

ever undertaken by a spacecraft, but the 12-year journey

:32:22.:32:30.

by the Rosetta probe In a few hours, it will be

:32:31.:32:32.

deliberately crashed into the comet 67P, which it has been tracking

:32:33.:32:37.

for the past two years. Rosetta is so far out in space

:32:38.:32:40.

that its solar-powered instruments are failing,

:32:41.:32:43.

but scientists say its findings will The most senior lawyer working

:32:44.:32:45.

for the independent inquiry into historical allegations of child

:32:46.:32:53.

sex abuse has resigned. Ben Emmerson, who was suspended

:32:54.:33:01.

from the inquiry yesterday after what were said to be questions

:33:02.:33:08.

about his leadership, has denied falling out

:33:09.:33:11.

with the chairwoman, The investigation was formally

:33:12.:33:12.

set up 18 months ago to look at failures by institutions,

:33:13.:33:15.

such as schools and hospitals, to protect children

:33:16.:33:18.

in England and Wales. The assistant manager

:33:19.:33:20.

of Southampton Football Club has become the latest figure implicated

:33:21.:33:22.

in the Daily Telegraph's investigation into

:33:23.:33:24.

football corruption. The paper says Eric Black has been

:33:25.:33:27.

secretly filmed allegedly advising undercover reporters how to bribe

:33:28.:33:30.

staff at lower-league clubs. A spokesperson for Southampton said

:33:31.:33:34.

the club was investigating The Chief Constable

:33:35.:33:36.

of South Yorkshire Police has said he'll take legal action

:33:37.:33:46.

after the region's Police and Crime Commissioner

:33:47.:33:48.

asked him to resign. David Crompton was suspended

:33:49.:33:50.

from his role following the Hillsborough inquest

:33:51.:33:52.

verdicts in April. The PCC Alan Billings says he should

:33:53.:33:56.

quit because he had led a force that put its own reputation first

:33:57.:33:59.

before considering victims. Mr Crompton says he'll challenge

:34:00.:34:01.

that in the High Court. Shares in Deutsche Bank,

:34:02.:34:09.

Europe's second-largest lender, have fallen sharply amid reports

:34:10.:34:11.

that some hedge funds There have been questions

:34:12.:34:13.

about the bank's stability, since news emerged that it is facing

:34:14.:34:21.

a penalty of up to $14 billion in the US for mis-selling

:34:22.:34:24.

mortgage-backed securities. If you're in your 30s,

:34:25.:34:32.

you're probably only half as wealthy as someone who is now in their 40s

:34:33.:34:34.

was, at the same age. That's according to research from

:34:35.:34:37.

the Institute for Fiscal Studies that found people in their early 30s

:34:38.:34:40.

now have an average net household wealth of ?27,000 per adult compared

:34:41.:34:43.

to ?53,000 for those born in the 1970s when they

:34:44.:34:46.

were at the same stage. The study found the property boom

:34:47.:34:48.

and generous pensions It's emerged that the BBC's

:34:49.:34:50.

governors intervened in the 1960s when it was proposed

:34:51.:35:02.

that the glove puppet, Sooty, A new documentary about its creator

:35:03.:35:04.

Harry Corbett reveals he wanted He was initially overruled,

:35:05.:35:11.

because the BBC thought it was inappropriate for two puppets

:35:12.:35:21.

to be romantically linked. That's a summary of the latest

:35:22.:35:24.

news, join me for BBC More allegations of corruption in

:35:25.:35:47.

English football starting with Sam Allardyce, England manager, this

:35:48.:35:52.

week. What is the latest? Early on in the week, the beginning of what

:35:53.:35:57.

we understand will be a whole range of allegations that are made over a

:35:58.:36:04.

series of days in the newspaper. Continued this week. Ten month

:36:05.:36:08.

investigation. The results of which they are revealing and have been

:36:09.:36:14.

doing so. Sam Allardyce was revealed to be, by undercover reporters,

:36:15.:36:20.

talking to them about potentially getting around third-party ownership

:36:21.:36:24.

rules. Suggesting he knew a way how to do that. He was the negotiating

:36:25.:36:29.

an appearance fee of ?400,000. It was within 24 hours, almost, there's

:36:30.:36:35.

newspaper allegations coming out, in the Daily Telegraph, that he lost

:36:36.:36:40.

his job. Tommy Wright in the day subsequent was one of those named,

:36:41.:36:44.

Barnsley Assistant Manager placed under investigation. You can see him

:36:45.:36:48.

here. Sacked yesterday as a result of the allegations in the Daily

:36:49.:36:52.

Telegraph. Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink, QPR manager, never Championship

:36:53.:36:55.

club, allegations made against him. QPR were investigating those

:36:56.:36:59.

investigations but they have said in the last half an hour they are

:37:00.:37:03.

unable to proceed -- another Championship club. Because they have

:37:04.:37:06.

not yet received all the details on the Daily Telegraph. Massimo

:37:07.:37:11.

Cellino, Leeds owner was also named in that piece by the Daily

:37:12.:37:18.

Telegraph. It has been a sinew of, including today of allegations that

:37:19.:37:24.

Southampton manager Eric Black gave undercover reporter 's advice on how

:37:25.:37:29.

to bribe officials at other clubs. Here he is, having taken over at

:37:30.:37:33.

Southampton. Assistant Manager Southampton. Claude Poole sitting

:37:34.:37:39.

next to him in the summer. He was filmed apparently doing that. He

:37:40.:37:43.

denies the claims. Southampton have said they will investigate those

:37:44.:37:47.

claims, including, you can understand that as these claims and

:37:48.:37:51.

all the investigations, the details of that are revealed, day by day,

:37:52.:37:55.

there are more investigations that have to be done by clubs. They are

:37:56.:37:59.

seeking all the information from the Daily Telegraph. Police are getting

:38:00.:38:04.

involved as well. We don't know how long it will go on for. A suggestion

:38:05.:38:09.

that ten months of work will be relayed in the newspaper over the

:38:10.:38:12.

next few days. Interesting to see who else they are able to name and

:38:13.:38:16.

what effect it has on some of those people's careers.

:38:17.:38:21.

It's a year since a change in the law made it possible

:38:22.:38:28.

for people who might have to deal with overdosing heroin users to be

:38:29.:38:31.

The injection, Naloxone can be carried

:38:32.:38:35.

by lifeguards, toilet attendants, carers, and also friends,

:38:36.:38:37.

family and even children of drug users.

:38:38.:38:39.

Charity Change Grow Live says the antidote has saved

:38:40.:38:41.

But figures show more people than ever in England and wales

:38:42.:38:45.

are dying from heroin and other opiate drugs.

:38:46.:38:51.

With me now is Karl Price a former drug user who has been saved

:38:52.:38:54.

from dying of an overdose by naloxone on three occasions.

:38:55.:38:56.

And Stacey Smith from the charity Change Grow Live, which has trained

:38:57.:38:59.

more than 6,000 people to be able to administer naloxone.

:39:00.:39:02.

Thank you both for coming in. Stacey, tell us how it works. It

:39:03.:39:11.

sounds like a miracle if somebody has overdosed, but this injection

:39:12.:39:15.

can reverse that? What naloxone does, it reverses the effect of the

:39:16.:39:20.

opiate overdose. The main killer from an acute overdose is not being

:39:21.:39:25.

able to breathe. What naloxone does, it boots out the opiate and allows

:39:26.:39:29.

the person to breathe again. It is as simple as that. How many people

:39:30.:39:35.

has your charity actually trained? We've trained round about... Mostly

:39:36.:39:40.

all of our staff teams, we've already saved 241 lives. It has been

:39:41.:39:45.

a real driver for us, when the regulations changed in October, we

:39:46.:39:48.

were really driving this training for people. Stacey says you can't

:39:49.:39:55.

breathe when you overdose with an opiate. You have been there, three

:39:56.:40:02.

times, describe what it is like. You kind of, you know, becomes

:40:03.:40:06.

semi-unconscious. Your breathing drops, your heart rate drops. You

:40:07.:40:11.

can, kind of, you are where little bit of what is going on around you

:40:12.:40:14.

but you can't speak, you can't move, stuff like that. -- you are aware.

:40:15.:40:20.

It's not a nice place to go to. And you feel you are dying? That there's

:40:21.:40:28.

no way back? No... You kind of... You're not really sure what's going

:40:29.:40:32.

on. You feel like you're kind of slipping into a deep sleep type of

:40:33.:40:39.

thing. You will feel really drowsy. And you are, pretty much,

:40:40.:40:43.

unconscious. As I mentioned, you have overdosed three times and on

:40:44.:40:47.

those three occasions, your life has been saved with this injection.

:40:48.:40:52.

Yeah. When you are injected, what happens, then? What it does, it

:40:53.:40:56.

actually removed the morphine from your receptors in your brain. It

:40:57.:41:00.

will give you a massive adrenaline rush. -- it actually removes. You go

:41:01.:41:05.

from being unconscious, unresponsive, and you will wake up

:41:06.:41:10.

really quickly. It will put you into a withdrawal. Describe how all of

:41:11.:41:14.

that feels, in the moment. The first time I had it, obviously,

:41:15.:41:23.

it was quite surprising because I never had it before. The second and

:41:24.:41:27.

third time I had it, I obviously knew what was happening. I was more

:41:28.:41:32.

aware. I was just pretty relieved to be alive, if I'm honest. Once the

:41:33.:41:36.

doctors and nurses had explained to me what had happened, I was just

:41:37.:41:44.

relieved that it was there. I wouldn't be sitting here today if it

:41:45.:41:48.

wasn't for naloxone. I am one of the success stories because I had it on

:41:49.:41:53.

three occasions. On one of those occasions, I had overdosed and 20

:41:54.:41:58.

minutes later, when the naloxone wore off, I overdosed again. It kind

:41:59.:42:02.

of saved my life twice in one sitting. Having gone through that

:42:03.:42:08.

experience once and knowing that you would have died, if you hadn't of

:42:09.:42:13.

had the naloxone, you might think that would be a wake-up call. How

:42:14.:42:19.

did you react to that? I guess, when you're addicted to, you know, class

:42:20.:42:24.

a drugs, every time you use, you're risking life, really. You don't

:42:25.:42:30.

really look at it like that. The power of addiction and the way that

:42:31.:42:34.

you think, even though you know you are taking a risk, you, kind of,

:42:35.:42:41.

don't think about that stuff. Your main priority is using drugs. Did

:42:42.:42:48.

naloxone take away your fear of overdosing? To be fair, kind of

:42:49.:42:54.

before I'd had the naloxone, I didn't really have a fear of

:42:55.:42:58.

overdosing. It's not something that you think about. When I was using, I

:42:59.:43:04.

would kind of use as much as I could, every single day, if I could

:43:05.:43:09.

get hold of it. I didn't, kind of, think well, there's a risk I might

:43:10.:43:15.

overdose. My overdoses and a lot of ones I have heard of and I have had

:43:16.:43:19.

friends and a partner who died, they are accidental overdoses because

:43:20.:43:23.

they are not thinking they are using too much. Or that they are at risk

:43:24.:43:30.

of overdose. Stacey, could the knowledge that there is an injection

:43:31.:43:35.

that can effectively bring you back to life after an overdose take away

:43:36.:43:41.

a fear of overdosing, for some? I think as Karl has explained, people

:43:42.:43:46.

are not in that state of mind at that moment. We know that most

:43:47.:43:49.

overdoses are accidental overdoses, these people don't necessarily want

:43:50.:43:53.

to die but they are caught up in their habit. I think when we give

:43:54.:43:57.

naloxone, there is a lot more training that goes with it around

:43:58.:44:01.

basic life support, how to put people in the recovery position,

:44:02.:44:06.

make sure you ring 999 and it is an opportunity for drugs workers to

:44:07.:44:09.

bring people into treatment. The most dangerous is when you use on

:44:10.:44:13.

your own in an unsafe place because there is nobody there to help you.

:44:14.:44:17.

One of our drivers at the moment is trying to get naloxone out to as

:44:18.:44:20.

many people as possible through drug workers, pharmacists, through

:44:21.:44:24.

lifeguards, the police. There are all of these people that may come

:44:25.:44:28.

across those people. What message is that sending? A message that an

:44:29.:44:32.

overdose isn't the worst thing to fear because there is the antidote?

:44:33.:44:38.

Everybody deserves a second chance. If Karl hadn't received naloxone, he

:44:39.:44:43.

would not be here today. That is the message. People go through stages

:44:44.:44:47.

and they deserve a chance to get their lives on track and it brings

:44:48.:44:50.

people into services and allows us to work with people. It is very

:44:51.:44:53.

difficult to work with someone when they are dead. This is a drug that

:44:54.:44:57.

is completely simple. It is given and it reverses the effects. Andrew

:44:58.:45:01.

on Facebook, we spend too much time and money pandering to the

:45:02.:45:05.

self-inflicted injuries. Youngsters think it is fine to take legal highs

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and self-inflicted drugs, no it isn't, it is the slippery slope.

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Think of the money and time wasted in hospitals to save these people so

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they can do it again. Life is tough for everybody, get over it. Do you

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want to react to that? I think until you have actually been

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few active addiction, to understand that, for me, addiction is a mental

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illness. When I was using drugs, people might think that I had a

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choice on whether or not to do that, but once I was mentally and

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physically addicted to it it's kind of became my whole life. I was

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saying yesterday it is kind of like when you put a horse into a race,

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they have got blinkers on, they don't see anything else around them,

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they have just got complete tunnel vision. That is kind of what it was

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like when I was using. I was rounded from a really early age, I had a

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really traumatic childhood. It is not as simple as one day I decided

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to use drugs, I will just pick them up. At the end of the day, there are

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people out there using, there are people out there that will overdose.

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Nalaoxone will save their life. It does not make them bad people

:46:26.:46:29.

because they are using drugs. For me, it can only be positive. Now I

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get to work with people and I get to see it on a daily basis, and I am

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very passionate about trying to make people more aware of Nalaoxone, and

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the fact that it can save people's lives. I get people coming out of

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prison with no tolerance, who might think that they can come out of

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prison and use the same amount of drugs as they did before they went

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into prison, they are at massive risk of overdose. And like Stacey

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said, about the families as well. Because obviously I have had a

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partner that has died from it. On that particular day, if I had had a

:47:10.:47:14.

Naloxone kit with me, she would probably still be here today.

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When you look back on your life, what was it that made you decide in

:47:19.:47:25.

the end to stop taking drugs? I kind of got to a point where I had just

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had enough, you know? You have to hit rock bottom. I got to a point

:47:31.:47:34.

where it was either using drugs was probably going to kill me, my life

:47:35.:47:41.

was just chaos, you know? I was sick of hurting other people. The thing

:47:42.:47:45.

with addiction, it is a family illness. It is not just about poor

:47:46.:47:50.

me, I am addicted to drugs. I never used to think about the impact that

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it would have on my family, my loved ones, people around me. And society

:47:57.:48:00.

in general. I didn't think about that stuff. I got to a point where I

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had just had enough. I wanted to change my life, I did not want to be

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that person any more, I wanted to become a better person. I just got

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sick of it, if I'm honest. Thank you, Carl and Stacey.

:48:17.:48:23.

Still to come, did the Mafia steel two appraisers Vanguard painting

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stolen from a new theme in Amsterdam in 2002? -- two priceless Vincent

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van Gogh paintings? Leaders from around the world have

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been paying their final respects to the former Israeli President

:48:37.:48:38.

Prime Minister Shimon Peres. The 93 year old Nobel Peace Prize

:48:39.:48:41.

winner suffered a stroke two weeks Picking attending the funeral

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included Prince Charles, Tony Blair, Barack Obama and Bill Clinton.

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Mahmoud A bars, the Palestinian president, shook hands with Israeli

:48:56.:48:58.

President Benjamin Netanyahu shortly before the ceremony began.

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Speaking at the funeral, Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin

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Netanyahu said ex-President Shimon Peres was a great

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That so many leaders came from around the world to bid

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farewell to Shimon is a testament to his optimism, his quest

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The people of Israel deeply appreciate the honour

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And the State to which he dedicated his life.

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He swept so many with his vision and his hope.

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But we find hope in his legacy, as does the world.

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President Obama paid tribute to Mr Peres' stature as both

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a defender of Israel and a maker of peace.

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He understood, in this war-torn region, where, too often, Arab

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youths are taught to hate Israel, from an early age.

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He understood just how hard peace would be.

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I am sure he was alternatively angry and

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bemused, to hear the same critics who called him hopelessly naive

:50:40.:50:46.

depend on the defence architecture that he himself had helped to build.

:50:47.:50:50.

But he understood, from hard-earned experience, that true security comes

:50:51.:51:06.

through making peace with your neighbours.

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We won them all, he said of Israel's wars, but we did not win

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the greatest victory that we aspired to.

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Release from the need to win victories.

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President Obama paying tribute to Shimon Peres at his funeral.

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Those born in the early 80s now have about half the wealth that those

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born in 70s had at same age, a new report by the Institute

:51:43.:51:45.

The IFS says that today's thirty-something generation has

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missed out on house price increases and better pensions.

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Let's talk to Andrew Hood, who is an economist at the Institute

:51:54.:51:56.

of Economic Affairs and one of the authors of the report.

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Thank you very much for joining us. It is a very short difference in

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terms of age for a huge difference in terms of wealth. How has that

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happened? Because there has been a sharp fall in the homeownership

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rate. Looking at those born in the early 1980s, at the age of 30, 40%

:52:20.:52:24.

owned their own home, compared to more than 55% of those born in the

:52:25.:52:30.

1970s. That figure is more than 55% for those born in the 40s, 50s and

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60 's. Will the trend continue at this sort of rate? I don't know

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about this sort of rate, but as long as house prices continue to rise

:52:41.:52:45.

faster than earnings, as they have over the past decade and beyond, it

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is likely that that home ownership trend we are seeing across

:52:51.:52:54.

generations is likely to continue. That is partly because it is not

:52:55.:52:58.

about the fact that people can't afford the mortgage is, they can't

:52:59.:53:02.

afford the deposits. It is quite a tight snapshot over a

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short time frame. Would you expect that to change or will this be a

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moment looked back on as the moment weather was a big divide?

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Taking a longer view, the issue is not just the wealth that those in

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their 30s have now, it is how they will build up as they move towards

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retirement. Not only do they own fewer homes, meaning they have less

:53:27.:53:30.

wealth now, they will not benefit to the same extent from future house

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price increases. On top of that, you have the fact that generous company

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pensions in the private sector are much less available to those

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currently in their 30s to those that win their 30s 20 ago.

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Rolling forward, people will own their houses, it is just who and

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where they are concentrated? Can you evaluate what you think the future

:53:56.:54:00.

trends would be? The houses that are older generations and the current

:54:01.:54:05.

retired population hold will have to go to somebody. The question is who.

:54:06.:54:11.

That is where this difference in inequality between generations might

:54:12.:54:14.

turn into an inequality within the younger generation. Obviously it

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will matter whether your parents were homeowners, that determines

:54:20.:54:22.

whether you will inherit the wealth that comes from their house. Other

:54:23.:54:27.

research we have done has shown that those who already have higher wealth

:54:28.:54:31.

are much more likely to expect to inherit, so it could be that wealth

:54:32.:54:36.

inequality in the younger generation is driven by the inheritances coming

:54:37.:54:41.

from the richer, older generation. Thank you very much, Andrew.

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Two priceless paintings by Vincent van Gogh have been

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recovered by Italian police - 14 years after they were stolen

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The missing masterpieces were found in Naples, among millions

:54:49.:54:51.

of euros' worth of assets seized from the city's

:54:52.:54:53.

Our correspondent Jane Frances Kelly has been covering the story for us.

:54:54.:55:04.

What has emerged? I have read that, allegedly, these paintings were

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recovered from the house of an international drugs dealer. This has

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not been confirmed. But the Italian government is cracking down on the

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Camorra, or the Naples Mafia, because of a spiral in drugs related

:55:24.:55:30.

violence, extortion and so on. This has led to the recovery of these two

:55:31.:55:36.

paintings that, as you mentioned, were taken from the Van Gogh Museum

:55:37.:55:42.

in Amsterdam in 2002. This seed is apparently got through the roof. It

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was a mystery how they managed to get away with the paintings -- the

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seeds apparently got through the roof. The paintings were cut from

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their frames. The paintings, you have the View of

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the Sea at Scheveningen, I hope that I am pronouncing that correctly. It

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was painted in 1882, a small painting. Apparently I have read

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that Sonya fought against the elements and pieces of sand became

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embedded in the wet paint. -- I have read that Van Gogh fought against

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the elements. The second painting is from 1884, Congregation Leaving the

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Reformed Church in Nuenen. This was for his mother, and, partly, his

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father, the 's at this church. He lived with them until they went to

:56:29.:56:35.

Antwerp. He committed suicide in 1890. If you have broken into the

:56:36.:56:40.

Van Gogh Museum, you get your pick of Van Goghs, why those two? I'm

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afraid I don't know the answer. Are they particularly significant? They

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are the early period of his career. The museum has over 200 paintings,

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I'm afraid only the people who stole them can tell us that. Maybe they

:56:59.:57:03.

were commissioned to steal those particular items. One does not know.

:57:04.:57:09.

After knee is very, very famous paintings will go underground. --

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often these very, very famous will go underground. You can't sell them

:57:14.:57:17.

on the open market, whole departments are looking for stolen

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art. People would be aware, you could not turn up at an auction

:57:21.:57:24.

house with them, but they could be used as collateral in drugs deaths

:57:25.:57:29.

or, potentially, to a private collector. So they will go straight

:57:30.:57:35.

back to the museum? Yes, but we do not know when. Presumably with

:57:36.:57:40.

better security? I would have thought that, after that, security

:57:41.:57:45.

would have been improved, yes. Thank you very much.

:57:46.:57:46.

There will be continuing coverage of the Rosetta mission and that crash

:57:47.:57:58.

landing into a comet. That is due at around 2:15pm. The spacecraft itself

:57:59.:58:06.

will be travelling very slowly, the comet will be travelling very

:58:07.:58:10.

quickly, so making sure they crash will be something of a mission, but

:58:11.:58:14.

it brings to an end that time in history for the Rosetta spacecraft.

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