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Our top story today - chaos at Ukip as their leader quits | :00:07. | :00:15. | |
Wonder how former leader Nigel Farage reacted to the news? | :00:16. | :00:22. | |
Was it like this? Or like this? | :00:23. | :00:30. | |
Or maybe like this? You get the picture. | :00:31. | :00:32. | |
Also on the programme, a woman who helped her husband | :00:33. | :00:38. | |
fake his own death tells this programme she will feel guilt | :00:39. | :00:41. | |
"for the rest of my life" for lying about it to her two sons. | :00:42. | :00:46. | |
That guilt will remain with me for the rest of my life and I am just so | :00:47. | :00:58. | |
grateful that they have allowed me back into their lives and offered me | :00:59. | :00:59. | |
a second chance. In an in-depth interview Anne Darwin | :01:00. | :01:01. | |
also tells us she's now happy I'm comfortable in my own skin. I | :01:02. | :01:13. | |
feel a more confident person. I do enjoy life. | :01:14. | :01:15. | |
We'll bring you the full interview throughout the programme. | :01:16. | :01:18. | |
And fears for the boxer Tyson Fury as he says he's taken | :01:19. | :01:21. | |
"lots of cocaine" over the past six months and hopes someone kills him | :01:22. | :01:24. | |
We'll get reaction from those who know him. | :01:25. | :01:45. | |
Throughout the morning we'll bring you the latest news | :01:46. | :01:55. | |
and developing stories - including the latest from Aleppo | :01:56. | :01:57. | |
in Syria where 106 children have been killed in the last nine days. | :01:58. | :02:00. | |
Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning - | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
use the hashtag Victoria Live and If you text, you will be charged | :02:05. | :02:07. | |
The UK Independence Party is facing fresh turmoil after its new leader, | :02:08. | :02:12. | |
Diane James, announced she was resigning. | :02:13. | :02:13. | |
Ms James, who was elected less than three weeks ago, | :02:14. | :02:16. | |
said in a statement she didn't feel she had sufficient support. | :02:17. | :02:18. | |
Her predecessor, Nigel Farage, stood down after the Brexit vote | :02:19. | :02:21. | |
in June and has ruled out standing in any future leadership contest. | :02:22. | :02:24. | |
He also said that Diane James had faced "considerable unpleasantness" | :02:25. | :02:26. | |
Ladies and gentlemen, it is an absolute pleasure | :02:27. | :02:33. | |
to announce, with 8,451 votes, the leader of the UK Independence | :02:34. | :02:36. | |
Less than three weeks ago, Diane James was chosen by Ukip | :02:37. | :02:43. | |
An MEP from the south-east, she was deemed by many the credible, | :02:44. | :02:50. | |
stable hand the party needed and she promised change, | :02:51. | :02:52. | |
speaking of the need for unity after a period of bitter infighting. | :02:53. | :02:58. | |
Wherever you are in the United Kingdom at the moment, | :02:59. | :03:01. | |
I ask you, support me, work with me, win with me, | :03:02. | :03:03. | |
make Ukip the winning machine it will become. | :03:04. | :03:12. | |
In a statement she says she is stepping outside saying: | :03:13. | :03:32. | |
Diane James cited professional and personal reasons. | :03:33. | :03:36. | |
It's thought she is contending with family illness | :03:37. | :03:38. | |
as well as having suffered some abuse since her election. | :03:39. | :03:44. | |
Speculation is rife about who will take over. | :03:45. | :03:46. | |
There will be an emergency meeting of the party's ruling body | :03:47. | :03:48. | |
to decide the next steps but for now her sudden departure | :03:49. | :03:51. | |
Speculation is rife about who will take over. | :03:52. | :04:10. | |
Our Political Correspondent Iain Watson is in Westminster. | :04:11. | :04:14. | |
It is not clear what happens next and I will explain why. First of | :04:15. | :04:20. | |
all, Nigel Farage told me this morning that he is checking with the | :04:21. | :04:24. | |
Electoral Commission to find out if he is still leader of the party | :04:25. | :04:28. | |
because what Diane James should have done was put a form into the | :04:29. | :04:31. | |
Electoral Commission saying she was leader of the party after her | :04:32. | :04:38. | |
election, there are rumours she wrote on to that form that she was | :04:39. | :04:43. | |
doing it under duress. If that's the case Nigel Farage is still | :04:44. | :04:45. | |
technically leader. However, it doesn't look as if he is willing to | :04:46. | :04:49. | |
stay on in the job unlike after the general election when he unresigned | :04:50. | :04:54. | |
within a few days so it is likely we will get fresh elections. We don't | :04:55. | :05:00. | |
know who the runners and riders are, but Suzanne Evans, who has suspended | :05:01. | :05:04. | |
from the party, that suspension has been lifted and Steven Woolfe who | :05:05. | :05:07. | |
was unable to stand last time because he got his nomination papers | :05:08. | :05:11. | |
in 18 minutes too late, he may well throw his hat in the ring as well. | :05:12. | :05:20. | |
Lisa Duffy a UK councillor told the BBC this morning that shao he is not | :05:21. | :05:23. | |
ruling it out. We expect elections in the next couple of months, but | :05:24. | :05:28. | |
the first thing we have to clarify is whether there will be an interim | :05:29. | :05:34. | |
leader or whether Nigel Farage will be back on our screens with the | :05:35. | :05:36. | |
title Ukip leader in evidence? Joanna is in the BBC | :05:37. | :05:40. | |
Newsroom with a summary Theresa May will pledge to make | :05:41. | :05:43. | |
the Conservatives the party for "ordinary working-class people" | :05:44. | :05:47. | |
in a speech on the final day of The Prime Minister will make clear | :05:48. | :05:49. | |
she wants to claim the "new centre ground of British politics", | :05:50. | :05:54. | |
and that Labour has lost the right to represent the interests | :05:55. | :05:57. | |
of its traditional voters. Our political correspondent | :05:58. | :05:58. | |
Carole Walker reports Hurricane Matthew has hit Cuba | :05:59. | :06:00. | |
after leaving a trail of devastation in its wake across Haiti | :06:01. | :06:07. | |
and the Dominican Republic. A number of people were killed | :06:08. | :06:09. | |
in the strongest hurricane to hit Our correspondent Nick Bryant | :06:10. | :06:12. | |
reports from Haiti. Haiti has taken a brutal pounding | :06:13. | :06:24. | |
from the worst storm to rip through the Caribbean | :06:25. | :06:30. | |
in almost a decade. Hurricane Matthew has brought | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
sustained winds of 145mph. This is one of the world's | :06:36. | :06:40. | |
poorest nations. And many of the country's 11 million | :06:41. | :06:51. | |
people live in shanty towns that offer little protection | :06:52. | :06:57. | |
from the high winds and rains. Many refuse to evacuate, | :06:58. | :06:59. | |
fearing the few possessions This is the main route | :07:00. | :07:03. | |
into the capital, Port-au-Prince, almost impassible as the floodwaters | :07:04. | :07:12. | |
began to rise. And the fear is of catastrophic | :07:13. | :07:15. | |
mudslides in a landscape badly Hurricane Matthew could drop as much | :07:16. | :07:17. | |
as three-feet of rain and we're seeing evidence of | :07:18. | :07:25. | |
flash-flooding already. The conditions here are | :07:26. | :07:28. | |
absolutely atrocious. To step outside is to become | :07:29. | :07:30. | |
drenched within seconds. But coastal areas along the southern | :07:31. | :07:35. | |
shoreline, which we've yet been able to reach, | :07:36. | :07:40. | |
are by far the worst hit. There the floodwaters are said | :07:41. | :07:42. | |
to be shoulder high. The two American vice-presidential | :07:43. | :07:50. | |
candidates have clashed over foreign policy, | :07:51. | :07:53. | |
the economy and Donald Trump's taxes in their first | :07:54. | :07:56. | |
and only televised debate. The Democratic senator, Tim Kaine, | :07:57. | :07:59. | |
said he was scared to death by the thought of Donald Trump | :08:00. | :08:02. | |
as commander-in-chief of US forces. Mr Trump's Republican running-mate, | :08:03. | :08:05. | |
Mike Pence, said people were right to question the trustworthiness | :08:06. | :08:07. | |
of Hillary Clinton. We have a tax code, senator, that | :08:08. | :08:22. | |
actually is designed to encourage entrepreneurship... Well, why won't | :08:23. | :08:27. | |
he release his tax returns. His tax returns show he went through a very | :08:28. | :08:32. | |
difficult time but he used the tax code the way it is supposed to be | :08:33. | :08:38. | |
used and he did it brilliantly. He said he would release his tax | :08:39. | :08:44. | |
returns. When Hillary said, "You haven't been paying taxes. He said, | :08:45. | :08:49. | |
"That makes me smart. So it is smart not to pay for teachers and I guess | :08:50. | :08:54. | |
all of us who pay for those things, I guess we're stupid. | :08:55. | :08:57. | |
The president of the Philippines has renewed his attack | :08:58. | :09:00. | |
on President Obama over his drugs policy which has resulted | :09:01. | :09:03. | |
in the killing of thousands of alleged drug dealers in just | :09:04. | :09:06. | |
Last month Rodrigo Duterte called Obama a "son of a whore", | :09:07. | :09:09. | |
prompting the White House to cancel a meeting between the two leaders. | :09:10. | :09:12. | |
Now Mr Duterte has said that Mr Obama could "go to hell", | :09:13. | :09:15. | |
and that he might end his country's alliance with the US. | :09:16. | :09:43. | |
A United Nations official in Syria has called for an immediate end | :09:44. | :09:45. | |
to the bombing of eastern Aleppo by Government and Russian forces. | :09:46. | :09:53. | |
Kieran Dwyer of Unicef says the types of attacks that | :09:54. | :09:55. | |
are being carried out using massive explosives | :09:56. | :09:57. | |
106 children in rebel-held Aleppo have died in the past nine days. | :09:58. | :10:01. | |
A woman who helped her husband fake his own death has said | :10:02. | :10:05. | |
she will feel guilt "for the rest of my life" for lying | :10:06. | :10:08. | |
Ann Darwin hid John Darwin in their Teesside home for several | :10:09. | :10:13. | |
years after he pretended to go missing on a canoe trip in the North | :10:14. | :10:17. | |
But their story unravelled and both were sentenced to more | :10:18. | :10:20. | |
The actor Ben Stiller has revealed he's been successfully treated | :10:21. | :10:27. | |
The 50-year-old was diagnosed with a tumour in 2014. | :10:28. | :10:31. | |
Writing about his experience on social media, he says he wants | :10:32. | :10:33. | |
to share his story to lend support for a screening test that he says | :10:34. | :10:37. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News. | :10:38. | :10:46. | |
We have clips of the interview with Anne Darwin on Facebook. Emily says, | :10:47. | :11:00. | |
"Other poor me. Bla-bla." Maggie says, "She put greed before her | :11:01. | :11:06. | |
children. A despicable woman." Lisa, "Surely this woman doesn't want | :11:07. | :11:14. | |
sympathy." This viewer says, "She knew more than she let on. To lie to | :11:15. | :11:21. | |
her sons was disgusting." I will be really interested to hear what you | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
have got to say after you have seen the full interview. | :11:27. | :11:28. | |
Do get in touch with us throughout the morning - | :11:29. | :11:34. | |
use the hashtag Victoria live and If you text, you will be charged | :11:35. | :11:37. | |
He's often in the news isn't he, and often not for good reasons. | :11:38. | :11:50. | |
He did a interview with Rolling Stone magazine recently | :11:51. | :11:52. | |
In it he reveals he's taken lots of cocaine, is suffering | :11:53. | :11:56. | |
from depression, and doesn't want to live anymore. | :11:57. | :11:58. | |
Earlier this week, people close to Fury told of how worried | :11:59. | :12:00. | |
He pulled out of a world heavyweight rematch with Vladimir Klitschko | :12:01. | :12:04. | |
for a second time recently, saying he was suffering | :12:05. | :12:06. | |
He has a anti-doping hearing next month for an alleged drugs | :12:07. | :12:10. | |
Here's what he had to say to Rolling Stone. | :12:11. | :12:40. | |
I should add that Fury also says he stopped all drug and alcohol use | :12:41. | :12:46. | |
And wants to be left alone to deal with his demons. | :12:47. | :12:51. | |
So it seems unlikely Victoria that we'll see him | :12:52. | :12:54. | |
Maria Sharapova, the ban for doping has been cut. There has been a mixed | :12:55. | :13:04. | |
response, hasn't there? Essentially this | :13:05. | :13:10. | |
is a tennis player - one of the best tennis | :13:11. | :13:12. | |
players in the world - found guilty of taking | :13:13. | :13:18. | |
a banned substance and although she had her ban | :13:19. | :13:21. | |
reduced from 24 months to 15, But her racquet sponsors Head | :13:22. | :13:23. | |
were quick to release a statement of congratulations for Sharapova | :13:24. | :13:27. | |
saying "justice has been served" They added that they were "proud" | :13:28. | :13:29. | |
to have stuck by Sharapova and even called for a "wholesale | :13:30. | :13:33. | |
comprehensive review" Some people weren't happy | :13:34. | :13:35. | |
about that, certainly not on social media, feeling that Head | :13:36. | :13:38. | |
were supporting a drugs cheat. Remember that Nike and Porsche | :13:39. | :13:47. | |
suspended their relationships with Sharapova when news | :13:48. | :13:50. | |
of her failed drugs test came to light, but Head taking | :13:51. | :13:54. | |
a very different response. And Wayne Rooney and comments about | :13:55. | :14:01. | |
Sam Allardyce. He's basically defended himself | :14:02. | :14:05. | |
against claims made by the former Rooney came in for a bit of stick | :14:06. | :14:07. | |
after an unimpressive performance in England's 1-0 win over | :14:08. | :14:13. | |
Slovakia last month. Allardyce claimed Rooney had | :14:14. | :14:16. | |
played where he wanted. Rooney has now said actually, | :14:17. | :14:17. | |
I played exactly where I was asked. Rooney told the media that Allardyce | :14:18. | :14:20. | |
knew he had made a mistake and that Allardyce had even apologised | :14:21. | :14:24. | |
to him on the plane home. Rooney goes on to say | :14:25. | :14:26. | |
he was "slaughtered" by the press and fans | :14:27. | :14:28. | |
but he thought his performance Interesting to get such candid | :14:29. | :14:30. | |
comments from the England captain. We will have more on that at 10am. | :14:31. | :14:34. | |
The headlines at 9.30am. "The guilt will remain with me | :14:35. | :14:40. | |
for the rest of my life" - that's how Anne Darwin | :14:41. | :14:43. | |
describes her decision to make her sons believe their father | :14:44. | :14:46. | |
John Darwin had died Speaking to this programme, | :14:47. | :14:48. | |
Anne Darwin says that going along with her husband's decision | :14:49. | :14:52. | |
to fake his own death in order to claim insurance money | :14:53. | :14:59. | |
was like "getting on a roller-coaster ride | :15:00. | :15:02. | |
that she couldn't get off". They were both eventually caught | :15:03. | :15:03. | |
five years later and sentenced Take the North Sea, a canoe | :15:04. | :15:06. | |
and a death certificate. The conclusion, under normal | :15:07. | :15:17. | |
circumstances, the tragic death But this case is | :15:18. | :15:19. | |
anything but normal. In reality, John Darwin, | :15:20. | :15:27. | |
saddled with debts, had faked his own death | :15:28. | :15:29. | |
as part of a ?250,000 fraud. In 2002, he took his canoe down | :15:30. | :15:33. | |
to the water near where he lived with his wife, Anne Darwin, | :15:34. | :15:36. | |
and paddled out to sea. He left his canoe in the water | :15:37. | :15:38. | |
and came back to shore, arranging for his wife to dispose | :15:39. | :15:41. | |
of his wet clothes in a skip A body, of course, was never found, | :15:42. | :15:44. | |
but in 2003, a coroner announced Of course, he was alive and well, | :15:45. | :15:50. | |
living in a vacant bedsit at the side of the family home, | :15:51. | :15:58. | |
accessed via a secret entrance I didn't think I would be caught | :15:59. | :16:02. | |
for the simple reason that I would change my | :16:03. | :16:07. | |
appearance dramatically. I had a stick, I had | :16:08. | :16:10. | |
a limp, I had a stoop. Whenever the couple's sons came | :16:11. | :16:13. | |
to visit their mother, he would make His wife, Anne Darwin, | :16:14. | :16:24. | |
has always described this as the most difficult part | :16:25. | :16:27. | |
of the ruse. John Darwin was, however, | :16:28. | :16:29. | |
spotted from time to time. Some neighbours didn't quite piece | :16:30. | :16:31. | |
together the truth. Now, when I look back now, | :16:32. | :16:35. | |
yeah, I actually saw him, where he was, especially | :16:36. | :16:42. | |
when he said where he The couple's ultimate | :16:43. | :16:44. | |
aim was to move abroad. John Darwin would use the identity | :16:45. | :16:49. | |
of a dead baby, born around the same time as him to acquire a fake | :16:50. | :16:55. | |
passport and move to Panama, buying a house with Anne Darwin | :16:56. | :16:57. | |
using the money from the scam. The problem however | :16:58. | :17:01. | |
was that the Panama government decided to have a crackdown on visas | :17:02. | :17:03. | |
for immigrants and that meant it would be impossible for John Darwin | :17:04. | :17:06. | |
to stay under his fake identity. He decided to return home | :17:07. | :17:10. | |
and pretend he had amnesia, reporting himself to | :17:11. | :17:13. | |
the police in London. His wife, Anne Darwin, | :17:14. | :17:15. | |
feigned shock and surprise. John Darwin very well might have | :17:16. | :17:19. | |
been suffering amnesia Then the media picked | :17:20. | :17:26. | |
up on the story. Publishing a photo of | :17:27. | :17:36. | |
the couple from 2006, The couple were | :17:37. | :17:38. | |
arrested and charged. John Darwin was sentenced | :17:39. | :17:41. | |
to six years and three months and Anne Darwin | :17:42. | :17:43. | |
six and a half years. She had pleaded not guilty, using | :17:44. | :17:48. | |
the defence of marital coercion, While in prison, she ended her | :17:49. | :17:51. | |
marriage with John Darwin over the phone and work | :17:52. | :17:57. | |
hard at rebuilding her In an in-depth interview she tells | :17:58. | :17:59. | |
us that she never thought She says she's not a good liar and | :18:00. | :18:09. | |
that she is now happy her life. We'll play you that interview in two | :18:10. | :18:19. | |
parts over the programme - here she starts by telling us why | :18:20. | :18:22. | |
she's speaking out now. I think I have just reached a point | :18:23. | :18:24. | |
in my life where I want to finally put this whole episode behind me, | :18:25. | :18:28. | |
and I want to start looking What do you think about your former | :18:29. | :18:31. | |
husband, John Darwin, now? I have no feelings | :18:32. | :18:35. | |
toward him whatsoever. Completely zero, | :18:36. | :18:39. | |
nothing, no emotion? He obviously has embarked | :18:40. | :18:41. | |
on a new life in the Philippines with his new wife and that is fine, | :18:42. | :18:49. | |
that is his new life and I am not part of it and I am happy I am | :18:50. | :18:56. | |
living the life I lead now When your husband first | :18:57. | :19:00. | |
talked about this plan of somehow faking his death, | :19:01. | :19:07. | |
what do you recall about those I was absolutely shocked that he | :19:08. | :19:10. | |
would even contemplate such a thing. I begged of him to declare | :19:11. | :19:19. | |
bankruptcy and he just wouldn't hear of it and it | :19:20. | :19:26. | |
didn't matter what I said, or how many times I said it, | :19:27. | :19:30. | |
he was just having none of it. He said he couldn't live | :19:31. | :19:33. | |
with the shame of bankruptcy, but instead we had to live with | :19:34. | :19:35. | |
the shame of a criminal record now. And why, because you owned various | :19:36. | :19:39. | |
properties you are renting out? We did, but they were all grouped | :19:40. | :19:45. | |
together in one mortgage. We started out buying one house | :19:46. | :19:51. | |
to let and that was as a replacement pension fund for myself, | :19:52. | :20:00. | |
because I hadn't paid I was quite happy to go along | :20:01. | :20:02. | |
with that, but then John just wanted more and more, until eventually | :20:03. | :20:09. | |
we had something like 12 properties. But he wasn't able to finance them | :20:10. | :20:14. | |
properly and it was just a nightmare So this idea of pretending that he'd | :20:15. | :20:19. | |
died so you could claim the life insurance and mortgage | :20:20. | :20:29. | |
company pay-outs, you said you were shocked initially, | :20:30. | :20:31. | |
but the conversation didn't just happen one day and the next day | :20:32. | :20:34. | |
he paddles out in a canoe, It was weeks, I think, | :20:35. | :20:37. | |
when he suggested faking his death. Initially he contemplated | :20:38. | :20:43. | |
crashing his car but then thought he could either injure himself badly | :20:44. | :20:49. | |
or indeed kill himself and he didn't He did watch the weather and just | :20:50. | :20:52. | |
sprung it on me the day before that it will be ideal weather | :20:53. | :21:02. | |
conditions tomorrow to put this At this point you are | :21:03. | :21:04. | |
saying what to him? I am still saying don't do it, | :21:05. | :21:09. | |
please don't do it, He always said it will all be over | :21:10. | :21:12. | |
in a couple of weeks. It will only take two weeks and then | :21:13. | :21:19. | |
I will be able to come back Neither of us envisaged that it | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
would be as prolonged as it was. I certainly didn't expect | :21:24. | :21:35. | |
it to go on for years. Once you get on that roller coaster, | :21:36. | :21:40. | |
it is difficult to get out. What is the roller-coaster that | :21:41. | :21:43. | |
means you can't get off when you are going to have | :21:44. | :21:45. | |
to pretend that he is dead and you're going to lie to your sons | :21:46. | :21:49. | |
who are then going to be grieving? That is easy to get off that | :21:50. | :21:53. | |
roller-coaster, isn't it? It wasn't, because John had always | :21:54. | :21:57. | |
been the controlling partner. He'd always made all of | :21:58. | :22:02. | |
the decisions in life, particularly I always felt he was better equipped | :22:03. | :22:05. | |
to deal with those things from the early days in our marriage, | :22:06. | :22:11. | |
and I just got into a habit Because he was adamant that it | :22:12. | :22:14. | |
would be over in a short time, I just got swept along with it, | :22:15. | :22:23. | |
and I just didn't have the courage Talk us through the morning | :22:24. | :22:26. | |
when John Darwin is going off It was an awful, surreal, | :22:27. | :22:39. | |
strange moment to be living. How I got through | :22:40. | :22:45. | |
the day, I don't know. It was just going through | :22:46. | :22:52. | |
the motions and at one point in the afternoon | :22:53. | :22:56. | |
there was a phone call from him and I thought he has seen sense | :22:57. | :23:03. | |
at last, he went through with it, but his phone call was asking me | :23:04. | :23:06. | |
to get home sooner, if I could, to take him on to his journey, | :23:07. | :23:10. | |
where he could travel I was just a complete wreck and then | :23:11. | :23:13. | |
I had to meet him at the rendezvous point and again I said do you really | :23:14. | :23:31. | |
want to go through with this, He said I have not gone | :23:32. | :23:39. | |
through all of this, we have not got to this point | :23:40. | :23:50. | |
to turn back, I'm going through with it | :23:51. | :23:53. | |
and I need your help. It was you who had to ring | :23:54. | :23:55. | |
the police, I thought I am here and I am doing | :23:56. | :23:57. | |
this and I just don't want to do it but all the time I had his voice | :23:58. | :24:09. | |
in my head saying you have to do it, you have to do it, | :24:10. | :24:13. | |
I need you to do this. Then that launched the lifeboats | :24:14. | :24:16. | |
going out and a search party which went on for a number of hours, | :24:17. | :24:24. | |
and all the time you knew Yes, and I feel dreadful | :24:25. | :24:27. | |
that I did that. It is something that is quite | :24:28. | :24:34. | |
unforgivable, to have endangered I would like to say sorry | :24:35. | :24:39. | |
to the RNLI for doing that. This is one of the reasons I want | :24:40. | :25:02. | |
them to benefit from the book. I am not allowed to profit | :25:03. | :25:06. | |
from the book because I would end up back in prison, and having | :25:07. | :25:16. | |
experienced that once in my lifetime I certainly don't want | :25:17. | :25:19. | |
to experience it a second time. Tell us what it was like telling | :25:20. | :25:24. | |
your sons the news that their dad was missing, feared | :25:25. | :25:29. | |
dead, when he wasn't. Fortunately I didn't have | :25:30. | :25:35. | |
to do that in person. Nonetheless, that guilt will remain | :25:36. | :25:43. | |
with me for the rest of my life and I am just so grateful | :25:44. | :25:51. | |
that they have allowed me back into their lives and offered | :25:52. | :25:57. | |
me a second chance. For most people it is unimaginable | :25:58. | :26:01. | |
that this massive lie you have to carry it on to your children, | :26:02. | :26:08. | |
who you love dearly, you have to go through | :26:09. | :26:12. | |
a funeral, you have Tell us about your husband coming | :26:13. | :26:15. | |
back to the family home and hiding, effectively, next door | :26:16. | :26:30. | |
whenever your sons came round or anybody knocked | :26:31. | :26:32. | |
on the door, how he was having keep It was two quite large houses | :26:33. | :26:35. | |
and there were connecting doors on each floor, | :26:36. | :26:46. | |
so if we heard a car approaching on the gravel drive, | :26:47. | :26:51. | |
or it was a knock on the window, or a knock at the door, | :26:52. | :26:54. | |
I would go to the window to see who was there, | :26:55. | :26:59. | |
who was approaching, and we would then decide | :27:00. | :27:02. | |
whether he had to make an escape into his bedsit next door, | :27:03. | :27:06. | |
or whether he could remain In fact, as time went on, | :27:07. | :27:10. | |
John Darwin got more and more confident and would be out | :27:11. | :27:20. | |
and about in disguise, but one of his former | :27:21. | :27:25. | |
colleagues thought he The police telephoned one day | :27:26. | :27:27. | |
and said it had been reported by someone that John had been | :27:28. | :27:36. | |
in the area and they asked me had I seen him, and I said no, | :27:37. | :27:44. | |
I hadn't and it wasn't until much later it had been a former | :27:45. | :27:47. | |
colleague of John's. Then, the plan to go | :27:48. | :27:51. | |
to Panama, he had looked at various other places, | :27:52. | :27:55. | |
but it ended up being Panama. Because he had always been that | :27:56. | :27:59. | |
controlling influence in my life. I couldn't envisage | :28:00. | :28:21. | |
life without him. At what point did John Darwin | :28:22. | :28:28. | |
say and why did he say, I am going to go back to England | :28:29. | :28:31. | |
and say I have had an easier and here I am alive | :28:32. | :28:34. | |
and everything will be all right? He had known for a while that | :28:35. | :28:49. | |
the visa rules in Panama were not He felt it was too | :28:50. | :28:52. | |
big a risk to stay... Because he was | :28:53. | :28:56. | |
on a fake passport So he wanted to come back | :28:57. | :28:58. | |
to England, re-establish himself as John Darwin and then hopefully go | :28:59. | :29:06. | |
and return back to Panama. It was in Panama that the now | :29:07. | :29:09. | |
infamous photograph was taken of yourself and your husband | :29:10. | :29:14. | |
and a property agent which led, When that photograph | :29:15. | :29:16. | |
was being taken, did you think that was a risk, | :29:17. | :29:27. | |
that was potentially careless? My biggest fear was that the boys | :29:28. | :29:36. | |
would see the photograph if it should be posted on an internal site | :29:37. | :29:41. | |
somewhere, but we were just led to think that it would go | :29:42. | :29:51. | |
on to the wall of the property agent I tried to put all thoughts of that | :29:52. | :29:54. | |
to the back of my mind. Because he thought he got away | :29:55. | :29:59. | |
with faking the death, he thought he could get away | :30:00. | :30:02. | |
with just turning up in a police station one day and saying he had | :30:03. | :30:05. | |
had amnesia for a number of years? Well, he came across to me | :30:06. | :30:09. | |
as believing that the police would just more for less | :30:10. | :30:12. | |
accept what he was saying. I thought they really | :30:13. | :30:14. | |
would see through it. But actually, the police | :30:15. | :30:19. | |
did take his story They contacted your sons, | :30:20. | :30:21. | |
who were completely overwhelmed and a huge mass of emotion | :30:22. | :30:31. | |
because they had grieved, but then this amazing feeling of elation, | :30:32. | :30:34. | |
but then confusion and bewilderment and lots of questions | :30:35. | :30:37. | |
and so on and so forth and you had to pretend when you got a phone call | :30:38. | :30:44. | |
from one of your sons that you were shocked that | :30:45. | :30:47. | |
suddenly your husband had turned up, having forgotten his memory | :30:48. | :30:50. | |
apparently, Again, that phone call | :30:51. | :30:51. | |
was so full of emotion but it was relief on my part knowing | :30:52. | :30:56. | |
that they once again knew I had all those feelings of guilt | :30:57. | :30:59. | |
and regret and it was just a very Then it unravelled, because that | :31:00. | :31:12. | |
photograph of you and your husband and the property agent had been | :31:13. | :31:27. | |
found on the internet because your names were in the press | :31:28. | :31:31. | |
again because John Darwin had turned up and that was sent to a journalist | :31:32. | :31:34. | |
and that journalist travelled That was the beginning | :31:35. | :31:37. | |
of the next stage, yes. Lynn says, "I worked with Anne | :31:38. | :32:02. | |
Darwin. She cried every day and fooled us all." Another viewer says, | :32:03. | :32:07. | |
"People make mistakes when they are desperate. It is easy to get into. | :32:08. | :32:15. | |
Not so uneasy to unravel and easy for others to judge. Annie says, | :32:16. | :32:26. | |
"Anne Darwin is only sad that she was caught." This from Denise, "I | :32:27. | :32:36. | |
knew Anne Darwin and her husband John many years before she committed | :32:37. | :32:42. | |
this crime, no matter how despicable people think she is, I can accept | :32:43. | :32:45. | |
completely that she was under the complete control of her husband and | :32:46. | :32:48. | |
did not have the confidence to refuse to do what he demanded of | :32:49. | :32:53. | |
her. What she says about him is true." | :32:54. | :33:01. | |
And after 10am we'll hear more from Anne Darwin. | :33:02. | :33:06. | |
She'll talk about her relationship with her sons and her | :33:07. | :33:09. | |
Her book "out of my depth" is out now. | :33:10. | :33:12. | |
And of course we didn't pay Anne Darwin for her interview with us. | :33:13. | :33:15. | |
With the airstrikes and violence in Aleppo increasing | :33:16. | :33:19. | |
over recent weeks - the impact on children | :33:20. | :33:21. | |
has been devastating - Over one hundred have been killed | :33:22. | :33:23. | |
We will speak to those trying to help them. | :33:24. | :33:31. | |
Boxer Tyson Fury says taking cocaine and getting drunk out of his mind | :33:32. | :33:35. | |
are the only ways he can cope with his manic depression. | :33:36. | :33:40. | |
He says he hopes someone kills him before he kills himself. | :33:41. | :33:42. | |
We'll get reaction from those who know him. | :33:43. | :33:48. | |
Joanna is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary | :33:49. | :33:50. | |
The leader of Ukip Diane James has resigned just 18 days | :33:51. | :33:55. | |
She cited personal and professional reasons for her resignation, | :33:56. | :33:59. | |
saying she didn't feel she had sufficient authority. | :34:00. | :34:01. | |
Her predecessor, Nigel Farage, has said he doesn't want | :34:02. | :34:03. | |
Theresa May will pledge to make the Conservatives the party | :34:04. | :34:11. | |
for "ordinary working-class people" in a speech | :34:12. | :34:14. | |
on the final day of the Tory conference in Birmingham. | :34:15. | :34:18. | |
The Prime Minister is expected to criticise MPs who view patriotism as | :34:19. | :34:24. | |
distasteful. in its wake across Haiti | :34:25. | :34:28. | |
and the Dominican Republic. Hurricane Matthew has hit Cuba | :34:29. | :34:31. | |
after leaving a trail of devastation in its wake across Haiti | :34:32. | :34:34. | |
and the Dominican Republic. A number of people were killed | :34:35. | :34:36. | |
in the strongest hurricane to hit 145mph winds destroyed | :34:37. | :34:39. | |
houses, left roads blocked Preparations are beginning | :34:40. | :34:42. | |
in some US states for The two American vice-presidential | :34:43. | :34:45. | |
candidates have clashed over foreign policy, | :34:46. | :34:52. | |
the economy and Donald Trump's taxes in their first | :34:53. | :34:54. | |
and only televised debate. The Democratic senator, Tim Kaine, | :34:55. | :34:59. | |
said he was scared to death at the thought of Donald Trump | :35:00. | :35:02. | |
being in charge of US forces. Mr Trump's Republican running-mate, | :35:03. | :35:05. | |
Mike Pence, said people were right to question the trustworthiness | :35:06. | :35:07. | |
of Hillary Clinton. A woman who helped her husband | :35:08. | :35:14. | |
fake his own death has told this programme that she will feel guilty | :35:15. | :35:17. | |
for the rest of her life for lying Anne Darwin hid John Darwin | :35:18. | :35:20. | |
in their Teesside home for several years, after he pretended to go | :35:21. | :35:24. | |
missing on a canoe trip in the North But their story unravelled and both | :35:25. | :35:28. | |
were sentenced to more I have no feelings towards him | :35:29. | :35:45. | |
whatsoever. Completely zero, nothing? Completely, zero. No | :35:46. | :35:52. | |
emotion whatsoever. He has embarked on a new life in the Philippines | :35:53. | :35:57. | |
with his new wife and that's his life and I'm not part of it and I'm | :35:58. | :36:03. | |
happy that I'm living the life that I lead now as an Independent person. | :36:04. | :36:07. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News. | :36:08. | :36:09. | |
Thank you for your comments about Ukip. This text from Mark says, "I | :36:10. | :36:17. | |
am a Ukip member. There is no turmoil for the party. There won't | :36:18. | :36:20. | |
be a general election until 2020 and we will have a new leader soon, so | :36:21. | :36:28. | |
where is the turmoil. PS, I wish Diane James well." Michael says, | :36:29. | :36:33. | |
"Not long after she was voted leader Diane James was accosted, spat and | :36:34. | :36:38. | |
abused by a left-wing activist. You have been reporting on stories where | :36:39. | :36:42. | |
Labour MPs especially women have been abused by left-wing activists, | :36:43. | :36:47. | |
why not this one? Is it because it is Ukip?" After 10am, we will talk | :36:48. | :36:52. | |
to Nigel Farage as well. Could he return as leader? Despite | :36:53. | :36:56. | |
protestations from him that he won't? | :36:57. | :37:00. | |
World heavyweight champion Tyson Fury has admitted to taking | :37:01. | :37:04. | |
"lots of cocaine" and wanting to kill himself. | :37:05. | :37:06. | |
In an interview with Rolling Stone magazine, Fury said he was suffering | :37:07. | :37:10. | |
from depression and wanted to be left alone to deal with his demons. | :37:11. | :37:18. | |
Some comments from Wayne Rooney this morning. He says former manager Sam | :37:19. | :37:25. | |
Allardyce knew he made a mistake when he said that Rooney played | :37:26. | :37:36. | |
wherever he wanted against Slovakia. Maria Sharapova still doesn't | :37:37. | :37:40. | |
believe that meldonium has any performance enhancing qualities. She | :37:41. | :37:47. | |
said in Russia, where she is from, the drug is taken like aspirin. | :37:48. | :37:50. | |
British number one Johanna Konta is through to the third | :37:51. | :37:52. | |
round of the China Open in Beijing after a straight sets win over | :37:53. | :37:55. | |
Victory too for Kyle Edmund in the men's singles. | :37:56. | :37:59. | |
Sorry I had a few issues with pictures. We'll get that right at | :38:00. | :38:04. | |
10am. Theresa May will say today she wants | :38:05. | :38:08. | |
the Conservatives the party to be She will be making a speech | :38:09. | :38:11. | |
on the final day of the Tory Our political guru, | :38:12. | :38:16. | |
Norman Smith, is there. And I think, where is he? | :38:17. | :38:25. | |
There he is! Phew, you are there Norman! | :38:26. | :38:28. | |
LAUGHTER I'm on the balcony, don't worry. | :38:29. | :38:31. | |
They are loving their new Prime Minister, aren't they? They are. | :38:32. | :38:38. | |
Today, Vic is May Day when we get the Prime Minister's big pitch and | :38:39. | :38:42. | |
we're told it will be about building a new centre ground in British | :38:43. | :38:46. | |
politics. Of course, I have to say, pretty much all party leaders tend | :38:47. | :38:49. | |
to talk that sort of language, you think Tony Blair talked about | :38:50. | :38:56. | |
famously Mondeo man and Gordon Brown had his hard-pressed working | :38:57. | :38:59. | |
families, David Cameron, I think, had a squeezed middle. What we get | :39:00. | :39:03. | |
from Theresa May today is those who are just getting by. People who have | :39:04. | :39:08. | |
got a job, got a house, but they are still struggling. They are still | :39:09. | :39:11. | |
maybe they have got to take two jobs. They are finding life hard. | :39:12. | :39:16. | |
Those are the sort of people Theresa May is trying to appeal to, but | :39:17. | :39:23. | |
let's listen how she cat gor rises those just getting by people? If | :39:24. | :39:29. | |
you're from an ordinary working class, life is harder than most | :39:30. | :39:31. | |
people in Westminster realise. You have a job, but you don't always | :39:32. | :39:35. | |
have job security. You have your own home, but you worry about paying the | :39:36. | :39:40. | |
mortgage. You can just about manage, but you worry about the cost of | :39:41. | :39:43. | |
living and getting your kids into a good school. If you're one of those | :39:44. | :39:48. | |
families, if you're just managing, I want to address you directly. I know | :39:49. | :39:53. | |
you're working around the clock, I know you're doing your best and I | :39:54. | :39:57. | |
know that sometimes life can be a struggle. The Government I lead will | :39:58. | :40:03. | |
be driven not by the interests of the privileged few, but by yours. We | :40:04. | :40:09. | |
will do everything we can to give you more control over your lives. | :40:10. | :40:15. | |
When we take the big calls, we'll think not of the powerful, but you. | :40:16. | :40:20. | |
When we pass new laws, we'll listen not to the mighty, but to you. When | :40:21. | :40:25. | |
it comes to taxes, we'll prioritise, not the wealthy, but you. When it | :40:26. | :40:31. | |
comes to opportunity, we won't entrench at the advantages of the | :40:32. | :40:34. | |
fortunate few, we will do everything we can to help anybody, whatever | :40:35. | :40:39. | |
your background, to go as far as as your talents will take you. | :40:40. | :40:45. | |
So, what is Mrs May going to do for those who are just getting by? Well, | :40:46. | :40:49. | |
she will point to grammar schools because she believes grammar schools | :40:50. | :40:53. | |
can be an engine of social mobility. They can help ordinary working class | :40:54. | :40:58. | |
kids to get on, to get good jobs. She has pointed out that she and | :40:59. | :41:02. | |
Jeremy Corbyn both went to grammar schools and wouldn't have got where | :41:03. | :41:04. | |
they are today if they hadn't gone to grammar schools. And she'll talk | :41:05. | :41:09. | |
about housing and she'll point to the fact that her Government, she | :41:10. | :41:14. | |
says, is going to borrow money to lend to small developers to build | :41:15. | :41:19. | |
more affordable homes. She'll talk about using more land which is owned | :41:20. | :41:23. | |
by the State for developers to build homes on. To make more affordable | :41:24. | :41:28. | |
housing available to people who are just getting by and lastly, she is | :41:29. | :41:33. | |
going to talk about jobs and she'll say there will be new obligations on | :41:34. | :41:39. | |
companies to recruit and train and offer apprenticeships to more | :41:40. | :41:42. | |
British workers. There will be new tests that companies have to face | :41:43. | :41:47. | |
before they can simply go abroad and recruit people from abroad before | :41:48. | :41:51. | |
looking at the sort of available labour in the UK. But you have to | :41:52. | :41:56. | |
say Vic, the big hulking elephant sitting in the living room is, of | :41:57. | :42:01. | |
course, Brexit! And again and again Europe has been the issue which has | :42:02. | :42:08. | |
devoured previous Tory leaders, think of David Cameron, the man who | :42:09. | :42:12. | |
offered that referendum, he seemed pretty confident he was going to win | :42:13. | :42:17. | |
it. He launched Project Fear and the rest is history. He was out of a job | :42:18. | :42:21. | |
the next morning. Think of John Major, he called his Cabinet | :42:22. | :42:26. | |
colleagues names for plotting against him over Europe and there | :42:27. | :42:31. | |
were constant rebellions and revolts against him during his premiership | :42:32. | :42:35. | |
because Tory MPs didn't believe he was tough enough on Europe and Mrs | :42:36. | :42:38. | |
Thatcher, the woman who said, no, no, no Europe, even in the end, she | :42:39. | :42:45. | |
too was forced to step down because of that crunch issue of Europe and | :42:46. | :42:49. | |
Theresa May will know those tensions still exist. Well, let's mull over | :42:50. | :42:53. | |
some of that with two Tory members who have come to this conference, | :42:54. | :43:00. | |
Carol and Hugo. Carol, Europe is the issue which divided your party for | :43:01. | :43:03. | |
so long, the question is can Theresa May put it back together again over | :43:04. | :43:09. | |
Brexit? I believe so. I'm confident she will. I really hope today that I | :43:10. | :43:16. | |
will hear she will. I'm a recent Conservative member and a reluctant | :43:17. | :43:22. | |
leaver. You want to know exactly how leaving and Brexit is going to | :43:23. | :43:28. | |
impact on small businesses, normal people, people in surburbia, I want | :43:29. | :43:32. | |
to know how she is going to help guide us through that, that's what I | :43:33. | :43:36. | |
want to hear today. Hugo, you will know, looking at the history of the | :43:37. | :43:39. | |
Tory Party, every Tory leader seems in the end to have been devoured by | :43:40. | :43:44. | |
Europe. Is history about to repeat itself? I don't think so, Norman, | :43:45. | :43:49. | |
no, if you look at David Cameron, the economy figures are quite strong | :43:50. | :43:52. | |
at the moment and history will look back at David Cameron as the man who | :43:53. | :43:58. | |
gave us a referendum on Europe and history will thank him for doing | :43:59. | :44:02. | |
because eventually everyone will thank us for leaving. Theresa May is | :44:03. | :44:06. | |
off to a flying start. The at moss fore in the conference is | :44:07. | :44:09. | |
acceptance. The remainers accepted the result. We want to know what the | :44:10. | :44:13. | |
world is going to hold for us after Brexit. Theresa May is a mystery in | :44:14. | :44:17. | |
many ways. She has barned politics a long time, but a lot of people think | :44:18. | :44:22. | |
she is a bit of an enigma, what does she have to do and she has to tell | :44:23. | :44:29. | |
us about herself? I think she does. I wasn't a member of the Bullingdon | :44:30. | :44:36. | |
club, I struggled to relate to the Cameron-Osborne era, but Theresa May | :44:37. | :44:40. | |
maybe I can relate to her more. I want to back her. I want to hear | :44:41. | :44:46. | |
more about how normal she is. And Hugo, I mean when people try to | :44:47. | :44:50. | |
identify who Mrs May is, you get the sense that she is not really a very | :44:51. | :44:55. | |
sort of idea sort of person. You almost feel she is more of a | :44:56. | :44:58. | |
pragmatist when it comes to politics, she doesn't have a core | :44:59. | :45:01. | |
set of beliefs, she tries to handle issues and problems as they crop up? | :45:02. | :45:05. | |
Well, we do see a different style of leadership to David Cameron. David | :45:06. | :45:08. | |
Cameron was more of a thinker, I think Theresa May is more of an | :45:09. | :45:12. | |
actions person. And I think that's a good thing. I think it is a good | :45:13. | :45:17. | |
thing to shape up a bit differently, but I'm looking forward to hearing | :45:18. | :45:21. | |
what she has to say because I think that this will divine her | :45:22. | :45:22. | |
premiership. Let's talk immigration, are you | :45:23. | :45:34. | |
happy with what the parties propose -- what the party is proposing? | :45:35. | :45:40. | |
Immigration isn't a big issue for me, personally. I voted Leave in the | :45:41. | :45:44. | |
end because of the democratic deficit. I think immigration has a | :45:45. | :45:49. | |
huge part to play in Brexit. I would like to see we're looking towards a | :45:50. | :45:54. | |
world, rather than just focusing on Europe. I think it's a balance that | :45:55. | :45:59. | |
can be struck and I really hope the party can, the government can strike | :46:00. | :46:04. | |
that balance. Your thoughts? I don't want to see too much bureaucracy | :46:05. | :46:09. | |
placed on immigration. I was opposed to free movement of people in | :46:10. | :46:12. | |
general, but you should be able to go to a country and accept a job, | :46:13. | :46:17. | |
particularly a high skilled job that country needs. I don't want to see | :46:18. | :46:21. | |
too much red tape put on the system. There we go, thank you for your | :46:22. | :46:26. | |
time. I think it is fair to say that although Theresa May has quite | :46:27. | :46:30. | |
successfully managed to contain the issue of Brexit at this conference, | :46:31. | :46:34. | |
there has been a lot of big policy announcements, it has gone to plan | :46:35. | :46:39. | |
for team May, my feeling is when it gets back to Westminster it will be | :46:40. | :46:45. | |
game on when it comes to Brexit and difficult to keep a lid on how on | :46:46. | :46:49. | |
earth we get out of the European Union. Thank you very much, Norman. | :46:50. | :46:54. | |
Theresa May's speech live later on BBC News today. | :46:55. | :46:57. | |
The world's most awarded and iconic club closes its doors | :46:58. | :47:00. | |
And after ten o'clock we will talk to a former leader of Ukip, he's | :47:01. | :47:11. | |
done it a couple of times... Nigel Farage, about whether that party is | :47:12. | :47:16. | |
in turmoil or not after Diane James, the recently elected leader, | :47:17. | :47:17. | |
resigned after 18 days. A United Nations official in Syria | :47:18. | :47:21. | |
is calling for an immediate end to the bombing of eastern Aleppo | :47:22. | :47:24. | |
by Government and Russian forces. Kieran Dwyer of Unicef says | :47:25. | :47:28. | |
there have been blatant 106 children in rebel-held | :47:29. | :47:30. | |
Aleppo have been killed in the past nine days, | :47:31. | :47:37. | |
and as our Special Correspondent Fergal Keane reports, | :47:38. | :47:41. | |
many more have been injured. A warning his report contains | :47:42. | :47:43. | |
some distressing images Russian and Syrian government bombs | :47:44. | :47:45. | |
fall on rebel held eastern Aleppo. Abu Al-Zayat, seven, | :47:46. | :48:10. | |
has shrapnel lodged near his spine. We can speak now to Fira Al Khateeb, | :48:11. | :48:15. | |
spokesperson for the UN refugee And Sonia Khush, Syria Director | :48:16. | :49:32. | |
for Save the Children. She is in Antakya, the Turkish city | :49:33. | :49:40. | |
bordering Syria which is only a few It is absolutely grim for every | :49:41. | :50:00. | |
family, Fira, particularly in the east of Aleppo, but for those | :50:01. | :50:05. | |
families and children being killed, it is horrific? Yes, this is because | :50:06. | :50:11. | |
of ongoing conflict. Ever since this crisis started. This has really been | :50:12. | :50:19. | |
the main obstacle stopping us from delivering aid, the ongoing | :50:20. | :50:25. | |
conflict. And now we are witnessing both sides of the city in Aleppo | :50:26. | :50:30. | |
have no electricity or freshwater supplies and they are in dire need. | :50:31. | :50:34. | |
Were missed the last time you did get access to Aleppo with aid? | :50:35. | :50:45. | |
Aleppo, we operate in Aleppo and we have an office that receives | :50:46. | :50:56. | |
products. It's been very disrupted and we have not been able to get | :50:57. | :51:06. | |
through. The only time that we were able to do so in a smooth and | :51:07. | :51:12. | |
ongoing manner with during the cessation of hostilities, that | :51:13. | :51:14. | |
started earlier this year in February. We were able to reach over | :51:15. | :51:22. | |
one point million civilians in besieged towns. Sonia Khush from | :51:23. | :51:29. | |
Save The Children, you are there Syria director. The Syrian president | :51:30. | :51:33. | |
doesn't care that kids are being killed, the Russians don't care they | :51:34. | :51:36. | |
are killing kids, so I don't know how you stop this? Yes, it's really | :51:37. | :51:42. | |
tragic to see there's been such a discriminant bombing of civilian | :51:43. | :51:50. | |
areas. If they are bombing apartment buildings and schools and hospitals, | :51:51. | :51:53. | |
surely they know that civilians make up the majority of people in those | :51:54. | :51:59. | |
areas. Children just an safe anywhere in Aleppo right now. With | :52:00. | :52:08. | |
this buster bombs, they are now hitting schools. There is no safe | :52:09. | :52:13. | |
place to be a child in Aleppo now. For those who are severely injured, | :52:14. | :52:17. | |
some of those bombs are also hitting hospitals? That's true. One of the | :52:18. | :52:24. | |
main hospitals in Aleppo is completely out of service as of this | :52:25. | :52:29. | |
week. There are very few remaining field hospitals. There's no chance | :52:30. | :52:42. | |
to evacuate into Turkey any more. Options are limited for emergency | :52:43. | :52:46. | |
health care. What else can anyone do to stop it? What really needs to | :52:47. | :52:53. | |
happen is the bombardment needs to stop and then needs to be a | :52:54. | :52:57. | |
ceasefire that nationally works this time, unlike the last time this was | :52:58. | :53:00. | |
tried. At this point that's really the main issue. We need the bombing | :53:01. | :53:07. | |
to stop. We need to get medical supplies back into those field | :53:08. | :53:10. | |
hospitals to restock them. We need to get some sort of infrastructure | :53:11. | :53:16. | |
running, schools up and running, so kids have a place to be that say. | :53:17. | :53:23. | |
Options are running out while the aerial bombardment continues. Thank | :53:24. | :53:27. | |
you very much to both of you for talking to us. Sonia Khush from Save | :53:28. | :53:34. | |
The Children and Fira Al Khateeb from the UN refugee aid agency. | :53:35. | :53:43. | |
Thank you for your e-mails. There was one that said thank you for your | :53:44. | :53:46. | |
interview with Anne Darwin, does this individual thing she can fall | :53:47. | :53:49. | |
us with faked his quest much she knew what she was getting into. | :53:50. | :53:52. | |
Nobody believes she was being controlled by her husband. She | :53:53. | :53:56. | |
should have served longer in jail for this crime. Don't give her the | :53:57. | :54:01. | |
pleasure by buying her book, she is a fake like a husband. She said the | :54:02. | :54:05. | |
proceeds of her book would go to the RNLI and RSPCA, where she now works. | :54:06. | :54:10. | |
Another view is that I'm shocked the BBC has given this viewer airtime as | :54:11. | :54:14. | |
if she was a victim. She was just as much a criminal as her husband. It | :54:15. | :54:18. | |
was pure greed. She could have said no and left him. She was clearly | :54:19. | :54:23. | |
happy in Panama, spending her ill gotten gains, I'm disgusted. Another | :54:24. | :54:27. | |
says, and Darwin does seem genuinely sorry for what she did and she is a | :54:28. | :54:32. | |
very lucky person of her sons can forgive her. I couldn't. Part two of | :54:33. | :54:36. | |
her interview in the next hour of the programme. | :54:37. | :54:41. | |
The world's most awarded and iconic club, Space Ibiza, | :54:42. | :54:43. | |
has closed its doors for forever after 27 years of captivating | :54:44. | :54:45. | |
It'll be replaced by a new club run by Ushuaia next year. | :54:46. | :54:49. | |
Here's a film about why it was so good. | :54:50. | :55:06. | |
Space has always been there, for something of which it's a | :55:07. | :55:10. | |
discovery within yourself and the music. | :55:11. | :55:12. | |
It's always been one of these places. | :55:13. | :55:17. | |
That something magical happens. | :55:18. | :55:19. | |
Something about being outside on the terrace, you never get | :55:20. | :55:41. | |
I think what makes it so unique and special is Pepe. | :55:42. | :55:58. | |
He never really thought I will build a club and make money. | :55:59. | :56:01. | |
He just thought I'll build a club and make people | :56:02. | :56:03. | |
So this is what Space has always been about. | :56:04. | :56:06. | |
It was a match made in heaven based on our ethos and our initial success | :56:07. | :56:10. | |
based on how people walked away from the club and kept | :56:11. | :56:12. | |
I've been here for aeons and played too many people over the years. | :56:13. | :56:41. | |
It was the sun coming up, everybody's out on the terrace, | :56:42. | :56:45. | |
and the vibe was just, you felt like you | :56:46. | :56:48. | |
The music would be playing in the afternoon and as | :56:49. | :56:57. | |
the plane would come screaming down the crowds would just go "Yeah" | :56:58. | :57:03. | |
and as the plane goes by overhead and the record kicks in, it's just | :57:04. | :57:07. | |
You see these people that basically couldn't be any younger than their | :57:08. | :57:11. | |
60s and 70s going for it, the same way 19, 20, | :57:12. | :57:14. | |
And it's just those moments were the ones that made me | :57:15. | :57:21. | |
realise how important music is to connect people. | :57:22. | :57:24. | |
I kind of want to celebrate the spirit of the era of Space. | :57:25. | :57:48. | |
Space is a worldwide award-winning club and its | :57:49. | :57:53. | |
everybody's dream to be able to DJ and played music to people there. | :57:54. | :58:05. | |
If you want to see the film again or share it it is on the BBC News site. | :58:06. | :58:12. | |
Let's get the latest weather. Carol is with us and that hurricane has | :58:13. | :58:22. | |
caused some damage. Yes, it has. Let me show you the track of Hurricane | :58:23. | :58:27. | |
Matthew. You can see how over the next couple of days it goes through | :58:28. | :58:32. | |
the Bahamas, eastern seaboard of Florida, heading towards Georgia and | :58:33. | :58:38. | |
the Carolinas. Whether its landfall is open to question, it may do, but | :58:39. | :58:42. | |
you can see the circles, that is the kind of area where the impacts will | :58:43. | :58:45. | |
be felt. Currently there is a hurricane warning in force in the | :58:46. | :58:50. | |
Bahamas, eastern parts of Florida, Miami has a tropical storm warning. | :58:51. | :58:54. | |
This track could change out to sea or inland. If you have a look at the | :58:55. | :59:02. | |
rainfall picture, as this hurricane transfers towards the Bahamas, which | :59:03. | :59:06. | |
is fairly low lying, it's going to have wind speeds of 125 miles an | :59:07. | :59:13. | |
hour. Those are sustained winds, the gusts will be much more. It will | :59:14. | :59:19. | |
produce 200-400 millimetres of rain and you can imagine the impact, | :59:20. | :59:24. | |
flash floods and huge storm surges. As it moves north-westwards, it's | :59:25. | :59:29. | |
also going to be travelling at six miles an hour, quite slow, which | :59:30. | :59:34. | |
means the impacts will be felt. It's quite a big beast still to be | :59:35. | :59:38. | |
reckoned with. We will of course keep you updated on it as they go | :59:39. | :59:41. | |
through the next few days. Back to the UK, the UK's forecast is | :59:42. | :59:46. | |
a lot quieter. We have sunny spells today, feeling cooler than it did | :59:47. | :59:49. | |
yesterday and it's going to feel cooler again by the time we get to | :59:50. | :59:51. | |
Thursday. High pressure across Scandinavia is | :59:52. | :59:58. | |
blocking weather fronts coming to our direction but you can see the | :59:59. | :00:02. | |
flow of the isobars, today the wind coming from the south-east, tomorrow | :00:03. | :00:05. | |
it will be more easterly. Which will be cooler. Today, after a cloudy | :00:06. | :00:12. | |
start, the cloud turning over. Some of us already have a lot of | :00:13. | :00:16. | |
sunshine. More sunshine to come. Breezy as well. If you are in the | :00:17. | :00:21. | |
cloud and breeze it will feel quite nippy, but out of the cloud and | :00:22. | :00:25. | |
breeze in the sunshine will feel nice. It should stay dry. In East | :00:26. | :00:29. | |
Anglia, Essex and Kent this afternoon, blue skies. The same from | :00:30. | :00:33. | |
the Midlands down to the Isle of Wight, heading towards the | :00:34. | :00:36. | |
south-west. Here and now there will be bits and pieces of cloud but | :00:37. | :00:40. | |
nothing that will be rain bearing. A lovely afternoon in Wales through | :00:41. | :00:44. | |
Cheshire improve Lancashire, Cumbria, the Isle of Man. After a | :00:45. | :00:48. | |
cloudy start in Northern Ireland, there will be some sunshine this | :00:49. | :00:52. | |
afternoon. Highs in Belfast of around 15. For Scotland, sunshine | :00:53. | :00:55. | |
across north-west Scotland. That will carry on through the day. Where | :00:56. | :01:00. | |
we have cloud across eastern and southern parts of Scotland at the | :01:01. | :01:03. | |
moment, that will break up. Some will cling to the East Coast. For | :01:04. | :01:08. | |
north-east England, a chilly feel if you are on the coast without breeze | :01:09. | :01:12. | |
coming in from the North Sea. As we head through the evening and | :01:13. | :01:19. | |
overnight, to start with the breeze will be very noticeable. It will | :01:20. | :01:21. | |
ease a little through the night and slowly we will see more cloud | :01:22. | :01:23. | |
developed. With that combination means it won't be a particularly | :01:24. | :01:27. | |
cold night. Most of us staying in double figures, except in rural | :01:28. | :01:30. | |
areas where it will be a bit lower. Tomorrow, starting off on a cloudy | :01:31. | :01:34. | |
note, but like today some of that cloud will break up. We will see | :01:35. | :01:38. | |
sunny spells develop. Still quite breezy and somewhere could see the | :01:39. | :01:41. | |
odd shower coming from thicker cloud. Showers will be hit and miss | :01:42. | :01:45. | |
and most of us will miss them. Tomorrow with more of an easterly | :01:46. | :01:50. | |
flow, it will feel cooler. Add on the fact that temperatures will be | :01:51. | :01:55. | |
that bit lower at 13-14- 15, you get the picture. A quick look at Friday. | :01:56. | :02:00. | |
A bit of cloud, some sunshine around, breezy conditions, 102-macro | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
showers, more in the east, but most of us will miss them again. | :02:05. | :02:07. | |
Temperatures feeling much more like autumn. | :02:08. | :02:11. | |
Ukip is looking for a new leader again after the woman who got | :02:12. | :02:22. | |
the job just over two weeks ago throws in the towel. | :02:23. | :02:24. | |
Wonder how former leader Nigel Farage reacted to the news? | :02:25. | :02:27. | |
Was it like this? Or like this? Or maybe like this? | :02:28. | :02:37. | |
You get the picture. And we'll be asking him that | :02:38. | :02:40. | |
when he speaks to us live In an in-depth interview | :02:41. | :02:43. | |
Anne Darwin also tells us she's I had no idea that would happen. I | :02:44. | :03:01. | |
was shocked when I learned that would be the case. | :03:02. | :03:06. | |
I wish I could have spared them from that ordeal. | :03:07. | :03:12. | |
Anne Darwin tells us about the first meeting she had with one of her sons | :03:13. | :03:17. | |
after she went to jail. His first meeting with him and his wife in | :03:18. | :03:24. | |
prison is when I found out that I had my first grandchild. | :03:25. | :03:29. | |
Boxer Tyson Fury says taking cocaine and getting drunk out of his mind | :03:30. | :03:32. | |
are the only ways he can cope with his manic depression. | :03:33. | :03:34. | |
And that he hopes someone will kill him before | :03:35. | :03:37. | |
We'll get reaction from those who know him. | :03:38. | :03:50. | |
Joanna is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary | :03:51. | :03:53. | |
The leader of Ukip, Diane James, has resigned just 18 days | :03:54. | :04:00. | |
She cited personal and professional reasons for her resignation, | :04:01. | :04:03. | |
saying she didn't feel she had sufficient authority. | :04:04. | :04:05. | |
Her predecessor, Nigel Farage, has said he doesn't want | :04:06. | :04:07. | |
Theresa May will address the Conservative conference later, | :04:08. | :04:13. | |
saying she wants to position the party on the centre-ground | :04:14. | :04:15. | |
The Prime Minister is also expected to criticise MPs who view patriotism | :04:16. | :04:20. | |
as "distasteful" and she'll say that working people will no longer be | :04:21. | :04:23. | |
ignored by the "powerful and the privileged". | :04:24. | :04:28. | |
Hurricane Matthew has hit Cuba after leaving a trail of devastation | :04:29. | :04:35. | |
in its wake across Haiti and the Dominican Republic. | :04:36. | :04:37. | |
11 people are known to have been killed | :04:38. | :04:39. | |
in the strongest hurricane to hit the Caribbean in almost a decade. | :04:40. | :04:46. | |
145mph winds destroyed houses, left roads blocked | :04:47. | :04:48. | |
Preparations are beginning in some US states for the arrival | :04:49. | :04:51. | |
The two American vice-presidential candidates have clashed | :04:52. | :04:54. | |
over foreign policy, the economy and Donald Trump's | :04:55. | :04:56. | |
taxes in their first and only televised debate. | :04:57. | :04:58. | |
The Democratic senator, Tim Kaine, said he was scared to death | :04:59. | :05:00. | |
at the thought of Donald Trump being in charge of US forces. | :05:01. | :05:03. | |
Mr Trump's Republican running-mate, Mike Pence, said people were right | :05:04. | :05:06. | |
to question the trustworthiness of Hillary Clinton. | :05:07. | :05:19. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News. | :05:20. | :05:21. | |
Some comments about Ukip and the fact that their new leader has | :05:22. | :05:31. | |
resigned. Phil says, "I want to make a comment. I have been a Labour | :05:32. | :05:35. | |
voter all my life, but started voting for Ukip a couple of years | :05:36. | :05:39. | |
ago, but when Nigel Farage left recently I decided not to vote for | :05:40. | :05:43. | |
them again because I think the party is without nothing as Nigel as its | :05:44. | :05:50. | |
leader." David on Facebook says, "I will be backing Steven Woolfe, he is | :05:51. | :05:54. | |
a great guy. He will move our cause forward. I wish Diane well and thank | :05:55. | :05:58. | |
her for her service." Do get in touch with us | :05:59. | :06:00. | |
throughout the morning. Use the hashtag Victoria Live | :06:01. | :06:03. | |
and If you text, you will be charged World heavyweight champion | :06:04. | :06:06. | |
Tyson Fury has revealed he's taken lots of cocaine, | :06:07. | :06:10. | |
is suffering from depression, In a interview with Rolling Stone | :06:11. | :06:12. | |
magazine, Fury said he was suffering from depression and wanted to be | :06:13. | :06:17. | |
left alone to deal with his demons. He told them, "Why | :06:18. | :06:25. | |
shouldn't I take cocaine? He continued, "I'm in a very bad | :06:26. | :06:27. | |
place at the moment. I don't know if I'm going to see | :06:28. | :06:33. | |
the year out to be honest." And then, "If I could | :06:34. | :06:37. | |
take my own life and I wasn't a Christian, | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
I'd take it in a second. I just hope someone kills me before | :06:41. | :06:43. | |
I kill myself." Fury also says he stopped all drug | :06:44. | :06:46. | |
and alcohol use on the first But it seems unlikely that we'll | :06:47. | :06:49. | |
see him in a boxing ring any time Maria Sharapova has spoken | :06:50. | :06:53. | |
after her ban for taking the banned drug meldonium was reduced | :06:54. | :06:57. | |
by nine months. The Russian was yesterday told | :06:58. | :06:58. | |
she could resume her career next April by the Court | :06:59. | :07:01. | |
of Arbitration for Sport. But despite being found guilty | :07:02. | :07:03. | |
of doping, Sharapova still insists that meldonium | :07:04. | :07:06. | |
is not performance enhancing. No, because I know how common it is. | :07:07. | :07:16. | |
I know how common it is. I know that it is on the vital and essential | :07:17. | :07:25. | |
list in Russia which protects along with ibrfen. I can't get my head | :07:26. | :07:30. | |
around that fact and when I started taking it, I took it under my | :07:31. | :07:34. | |
doctor's orders and that's why I kept taking it for years. | :07:35. | :07:46. | |
And finally, an example of how not to repay friendship. | :07:47. | :07:48. | |
American cyclist Jeremy Santucci was coming to the end | :07:49. | :07:50. | |
of the Red Hook Criterium race in Milan when his frustration got | :07:51. | :07:53. | |
the better of him - and he broke his bike in two. | :07:54. | :07:56. | |
The trouble was - it wasn't his bike but his friend Sergio's who had | :07:57. | :07:59. | |
I don't think Sergio will be loaning him anymore bikes or anything for | :08:00. | :08:09. | |
that matter. No, but Sergio will forgive him, I think. | :08:10. | :08:15. | |
It was a scam so brazen it shocked the world. | :08:16. | :08:18. | |
In 2002 husband and wife John and Anne Darwin faked John's death, | :08:19. | :08:21. | |
pretending he'd died in a canoeing accident. | :08:22. | :08:26. | |
For years the couple lived a lie with John Darwin hiding in half | :08:27. | :08:29. | |
of the large house they owned, while cashed in on | :08:30. | :08:31. | |
In 2007, they moved to Panama with Mr Darwin | :08:32. | :08:38. | |
He returned to the UK that year and walked into a police station, | :08:39. | :08:44. | |
Mrs Darwin pretended to be shocked at his return but this photograph | :08:45. | :08:55. | |
of the couple with an estate agent in Panama surfaced later | :08:56. | :08:57. | |
Now in an in-depth interview Anne Darwin has told this programme | :08:58. | :09:05. | |
she will feel guilty "for the rest of her life" for lying | :09:06. | :09:08. | |
In this second part of our interview, she tells | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
us about the moment she realises journalists had | :09:13. | :09:14. | |
I was just flabbergasted at the speed in which I was tracked | :09:15. | :09:22. | |
down to the very apartment in which I was living and I tried | :09:23. | :09:26. | |
to ignore them for as long as I could but David | :09:27. | :09:29. | |
He kept knocking and he said he could help me and he painted | :09:30. | :09:46. | |
a very bleak picture of many more journalists coming to knock | :09:47. | :09:48. | |
on the door and at that point I was absolutely | :09:49. | :09:51. | |
terrified of being stuck in there and surrounded | :09:52. | :09:53. | |
But Anne, you still carried on the lies with him, didn't you? | :09:54. | :10:07. | |
This was part of the plan, I had to do it. | :10:08. | :10:15. | |
His voice is still in my head saying this is the next stage. | :10:16. | :10:21. | |
But you still had a chance in court to plead guilty | :10:22. | :10:23. | |
The reason for pleading not guilty was because I wanted people | :10:24. | :10:29. | |
to see that I hadn't gone along with it willingly. | :10:30. | :10:31. | |
I always knew I would be found guilty. | :10:32. | :10:37. | |
I didn't expect to get away with it by any means. | :10:38. | :10:41. | |
You tried to persuade the jury that you did what you did, | :10:42. | :10:44. | |
you went along with it, because of marital coercion, | :10:45. | :10:46. | |
that your husband was effectively coercing | :10:47. | :10:49. | |
I interviewed your husband, John Darwin, your ex-husband, | :10:50. | :10:55. | |
back in 2011 and he had a slightly different picture | :10:56. | :10:57. | |
I'm not going into percentages, but it was joint. | :10:58. | :11:10. | |
At the end of the day, when she sold the properties, | :11:11. | :11:15. | |
she was in the UK, I was abroad, everything was in her name, | :11:16. | :11:18. | |
I didn't force her to go over to Panama, for example, | :11:19. | :11:25. | |
She could have gone off to Australia and just disappeared into thin air. | :11:26. | :11:37. | |
She wanted to be with me just as much as I wanted to be with her. | :11:38. | :11:47. | |
But I wanted people to see that I hadn't gone | :11:48. | :11:50. | |
along with it willingly but I feel that I didn't get that | :11:51. | :11:52. | |
I was just in that alien environment and mentally and physically | :11:53. | :11:58. | |
By pleading not guilty, what it meant was that your sons | :11:59. | :12:09. | |
then ended up testifying against you in court. | :12:10. | :12:12. | |
I had absolutely no idea that would happen. | :12:13. | :12:17. | |
I was shocked when I learned that would be the case. | :12:18. | :12:25. | |
I wish I could have spared them from that ordeal. | :12:26. | :12:28. | |
From entering prison I had written to them on a regular basis just | :12:29. | :12:32. | |
saying to them I do love you and I am sorry. | :12:33. | :12:38. | |
The jury didn't believe your defence that you had been coerced and, | :12:39. | :12:44. | |
in fact, you were given a longer jail sentence than John Darwin. | :12:45. | :12:49. | |
Yes, I got six months longer than he did. | :12:50. | :12:55. | |
Because you had pleaded not guilty, he pleaded guilty. | :12:56. | :13:00. | |
What, and it is a huge question, what was it like in prison for you? | :13:01. | :13:04. | |
It wasn't easy. I felt very isolated. | :13:05. | :13:12. | |
To find yourself in a high security prison at the age of 56, | :13:13. | :13:19. | |
having led a good life up until that incident was a bit of a nightmare. | :13:20. | :13:24. | |
I was surrounded by some quite notorious people. | :13:25. | :13:31. | |
I just felt like I didn't belong there. | :13:32. | :13:44. | |
Knowing that everyone in prison knew my story made it even harder | :13:45. | :13:56. | |
and I lost all contact with every member of my family. | :13:57. | :14:02. | |
It took a few months before I heard from anyone at all. | :14:03. | :14:14. | |
You wrote several letters to your sons and eventually | :14:15. | :14:16. | |
Yes, a few months after the trial when I actually got a letter, | :14:17. | :14:29. | |
But still, a sign that he was acknowledging you. | :14:30. | :14:45. | |
Getting that letter offered me some hope that perhaps I hadn't | :14:46. | :15:02. | |
lost them forever, which by this point, | :15:03. | :15:04. | |
Then it was some months before I heard from him again | :15:05. | :15:14. | |
and he asked if he could come and see me in prison. | :15:15. | :15:19. | |
Because this was the first time he was going to ask me | :15:20. | :15:31. | |
I was waiting for the visit and it was quite a cold greeting, | :15:32. | :15:53. | |
a difficult visit, but when it came to an end, there was some affection | :15:54. | :16:00. | |
and I was just greatly relieved and hopeful. | :16:01. | :16:05. | |
That was effectively the beginning of you trying to rebuild trust | :16:06. | :16:07. | |
It was quite a few more months after that before I actually | :16:08. | :16:16. | |
It took him longer, and his first meeting with him | :16:17. | :16:29. | |
and his wife in prison is when I found out that | :16:30. | :16:32. | |
Again, that was a very emotional visit. | :16:33. | :16:42. | |
It was when you were in prison that you decided to end your | :16:43. | :16:45. | |
Do your sons still have a relationship with him, or do | :16:46. | :16:54. | |
He felt, Anthony it was, felt that John had shown no | :16:55. | :17:11. | |
remorse for what he had done, and so he has no contact | :17:12. | :17:14. | |
He told me that he was really interested in contacting you once | :17:15. | :17:25. | |
He wanted to carry on with your married life, he wanted | :17:26. | :17:30. | |
I may have ruined three years, six years, of our life. | :17:31. | :17:38. | |
Are you trying to turn round and say well, because of what one action, | :17:39. | :17:50. | |
yes it was a long action, but because of one action, | :17:51. | :17:53. | |
all of our married life has been a joke, for nothing? | :17:54. | :17:56. | |
I don't know, I am just saying, I am just wondering. | :17:57. | :17:58. | |
It is such a huge thing that you did, perhaps it does | :17:59. | :18:01. | |
Well, perhaps it does, all I was interested in, when I came | :18:02. | :18:06. | |
I'd wanted to carry on with our married life, | :18:07. | :18:16. | |
All I really wanted was to sit in front of her when we were both | :18:17. | :18:25. | |
out, even in a McDonald's or somewhere else, | :18:26. | :18:29. | |
So, yes, I have ended up putting in divorce papers and yes the court | :18:30. | :18:37. | |
has found that her behaviour, her behaviour, is unreasonable | :18:38. | :18:41. | |
for not wanting to try to patch up the marriage or even | :18:42. | :18:44. | |
Why had you made the decision that that was it then? | :18:45. | :18:51. | |
I think probably, about half way through my prison sentence, | :18:52. | :19:01. | |
I had really hit rock bottom and it wasn't until that point where I got | :19:02. | :19:08. | |
so very badly depressed, and I began to recognise that I needed | :19:09. | :19:11. | |
Once I'd accepted that help and treatment was given, | :19:12. | :19:25. | |
then I was able, with the help of a psychologist, to actually look | :19:26. | :19:30. | |
back over my life, not just those six years, | :19:31. | :19:38. | |
but go right back to the beginning of my life and just examine | :19:39. | :19:42. | |
where I had gone wrong, and it was only at that point that | :19:43. | :19:47. | |
I realised that a lot of it had come about through my lack | :19:48. | :19:50. | |
I thought, I need to do something about this. | :19:51. | :20:01. | |
I wasn't happy at the way things had progressed | :20:02. | :20:04. | |
There had been numerous times when I'd felt perhaps I wasn't | :20:05. | :20:11. | |
I by no means had an equal partnership with John, and I think | :20:12. | :20:17. | |
it was only because I had been removed from that situation that | :20:18. | :20:20. | |
I had the opportunity to really fully explore my feelings, | :20:21. | :20:28. | |
and from that point on, I began to think about leading | :20:29. | :20:33. | |
The more time we spent apart, his voice began to fade | :20:34. | :20:41. | |
in my head and I had room for my own thoughts and ideas. | :20:42. | :20:47. | |
I decided that that was the best way forward. | :20:48. | :20:49. | |
I did, as I have explained, go along with it unwillingly. | :20:50. | :20:59. | |
I felt I was just following the pattern of our marriage. | :21:00. | :21:03. | |
I'd got into the habit and that was just no way out of it. | :21:04. | :21:08. | |
As for taking responsibility, yes I have to take responsibility | :21:09. | :21:13. | |
for my own actions, I can't put 100% of the blame onto John either | :21:14. | :21:17. | |
I can see that now, but at the time, when you are in that | :21:18. | :21:26. | |
My life was unbearable and once you get onto that slippery slope, | :21:27. | :21:30. | |
There will be people watching who will be able to relate not | :21:31. | :21:43. | |
to the huge fraud that you and your husband carried out, | :21:44. | :21:52. | |
but will relate to the way you describe feeling trapped | :21:53. | :21:54. | |
in a marriage and not able to exit it. | :21:55. | :22:02. | |
For all sorts of reasons, children, money, debt, | :22:03. | :22:04. | |
This is one of the reasons for writing the book as well, | :22:05. | :22:08. | |
to give some hope and encouragement to people who can identify with some | :22:09. | :22:16. | |
Have the courage of your convictions. | :22:17. | :22:18. | |
If you are not happy in a relationship, don't stay there. | :22:19. | :22:21. | |
It is possible to lead an independent life and I am quite | :22:22. | :22:26. | |
I am coming out of it and I have got an independent life. | :22:27. | :22:36. | |
I am responsible for my own actions, I answer only to myself. | :22:37. | :22:44. | |
I can take a full role in family life and I have got my job | :22:45. | :22:47. | |
and I pay my own bills and if I can encourage someone else to do maybe | :22:48. | :22:51. | |
take that step then I would love to do that. | :22:52. | :22:58. | |
Indeed, another aspect that I feel I would like to happen is maybe | :22:59. | :23:06. | |
if by some means I could go into women's prisons | :23:07. | :23:09. | |
and speak to women prisoners, and I can give them some hope | :23:10. | :23:18. | |
Do people recognise you in the street? | :23:19. | :23:23. | |
People often say have we met before, I recognise your face, | :23:24. | :23:31. | |
But no one has ever actually come up to me and said are you Anne Darwin? | :23:32. | :23:41. | |
And usually I just pass it off by saying no, I am sorry, | :23:42. | :23:45. | |
if we had met I think I would remember. | :23:46. | :23:48. | |
Or I will say to them, have you been into the RSPCA | :23:49. | :23:51. | |
recently, you might have seen me on the reception desk. | :23:52. | :23:54. | |
I feel a more confident person and I do enjoy life. | :23:55. | :24:14. | |
It would be nice to have someone to go home to at the end | :24:15. | :24:19. | |
Anne's book, Out Of My Depth is out now. | :24:20. | :24:27. | |
And, of course, we didn't pay Anne Darwin for her | :24:28. | :24:29. | |
Just when it seemed British politics in 2016 could get through a month | :24:30. | :24:34. | |
without a leadership crisis, Ukip's new leader, Diane James, | :24:35. | :24:39. | |
has announced she's quitting after 18 days in the job. | :24:40. | :24:42. | |
It means her time as leader lasted longer than Britney | :24:43. | :24:51. | |
Spears' first marriage - 55 hours - but not as long | :24:52. | :24:54. | |
as Sam Allardyce's reign as England manager - | :24:55. | :24:55. | |
So how do you think former Ukip leader, Nigel Farage, | :24:56. | :24:59. | |
who's already un-resigned once before, reacted to the news? | :25:00. | :25:01. | |
Hello to you, Mr Farage. Welcome to our programme. You had dinner with | :25:02. | :25:13. | |
Diane James the night before last, so what did she say to you about why | :25:14. | :25:21. | |
she was going to resign? She obviously had personal problems. I | :25:22. | :25:25. | |
think that being attacked on Waterloo Station and realising that | :25:26. | :25:32. | |
her life would mean being surrounded by security and everything else... I | :25:33. | :25:37. | |
think she recognised it is a 24-7 job, it isn't very much fun and | :25:38. | :25:41. | |
better, I think, to recognise she'd made a mistake now than to do so in | :25:42. | :25:48. | |
6-9 months' time. So I'm sorry for her. It's a very difficult thing to | :25:49. | :25:53. | |
have done. As far as the parties concerned, it's not a great day, but | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
it's not the end of the world. Can you shed a bit more light on those | :25:59. | :26:04. | |
personal problems you referred to? I think you will find there is a | :26:05. | :26:08. | |
problem with health in the family. As I say, I think to be attacked on | :26:09. | :26:14. | |
the station the way that she was was a shock. And with that came a | :26:15. | :26:20. | |
realisation that actually, when you take this job, your life finishes. | :26:21. | :26:25. | |
This is what you are, 24-7, there is nothing else. I think she looked | :26:26. | :26:30. | |
down the barrel of that and thought, this is not how I want to live my | :26:31. | :26:35. | |
life. But she would have known, certainly from your own experience, | :26:36. | :26:39. | |
it's tough being the leader of a political party and it comes with | :26:40. | :26:43. | |
all sorts of added responsibilities and challenges that you don't have | :26:44. | :26:49. | |
when you are not a leader? Nobody in life heaven knows what something is | :26:50. | :26:53. | |
like until they are there and doing it. She has made this decision. It's | :26:54. | :26:58. | |
been 18 days. It hasn't been very long, but I would rather she has | :26:59. | :27:01. | |
made that decision now than perhaps made in the middle of next year. So | :27:02. | :27:06. | |
what we will do is I will continue as the interim leader of Ukip. We | :27:07. | :27:10. | |
will go through the electoral process again. After all, we are | :27:11. | :27:15. | |
hardly unique to this. Labour have had two leadership elections in the | :27:16. | :27:22. | |
space of a year. Many think this morning that Ukip without a leader | :27:23. | :27:25. | |
is more electable than Labour with one. You are the interim leader | :27:26. | :27:31. | |
until fresh elections? Yes, I keep trying to escape, I keep getting | :27:32. | :27:35. | |
over the wall and running for the hills but before I'm finally free, | :27:36. | :27:39. | |
they dragged me back! I will continue as the interim leader until | :27:40. | :27:44. | |
we complete this process. There are rumours that your ruling governing | :27:45. | :27:51. | |
body is going to put Neil Hamilton in as interim leader. They are going | :27:52. | :27:56. | |
to install Mr Hamilton as interim leader? Really? We will have to see | :27:57. | :28:02. | |
about that, won't we? I find that extremely unlikely. I do not see any | :28:03. | :28:08. | |
prospect of that horror story coming to pass. Why would that be a horror | :28:09. | :28:14. | |
story, he's the leader of Ukip in the Welsh Assembly? I'm afraid he | :28:15. | :28:21. | |
is. Why would it be a horror story? Because I'm afraid he doesn't do | :28:22. | :28:25. | |
what our public image a whole host of good. But there we go, that's | :28:26. | :28:29. | |
life. We are at the Democratic party and he was chosen by the people to | :28:30. | :28:33. | |
become a member of the Welsh Assembly for us. I don't think it's | :28:34. | :28:37. | |
done is a lot of good, but that's life. I'm interested. You said you | :28:38. | :28:43. | |
are interim leader. There is this suggestion the ruling governing body | :28:44. | :28:46. | |
will put its own interim leader in. Who has the initiative here? I've | :28:47. | :28:51. | |
spoken to the electoral commission this morning. I'm technical still | :28:52. | :28:58. | |
leader of the party as Diane James's forms didn't get processed, so I | :28:59. | :29:02. | |
will continue as interim leader. Irrespective of what your ruling | :29:03. | :29:06. | |
governing body wants to do... You don't know that either. This is wild | :29:07. | :29:13. | |
speculation, isn't it? Which is why I was putting it to you, to see what | :29:14. | :29:18. | |
your take was. Steven Woolfe was one of the favourites last time. He was | :29:19. | :29:22. | |
banned from taking part last time. Will he win it next time? Is he your | :29:23. | :29:29. | |
favoured candidate? Last time I didn't publicly back any of the | :29:30. | :29:32. | |
candidates, and it's not my intention at this stage to back any | :29:33. | :29:36. | |
of them this time round. I don't know if Steven Woolfe. And not, I | :29:37. | :29:41. | |
would be surprised, frankly, if he doesn't. There are people saying | :29:42. | :29:46. | |
this is the demise of Ukip, really. You've gone, OK your back as an | :29:47. | :29:50. | |
interim, as long as you mean that this time. You've successfully | :29:51. | :29:55. | |
persuaded the government to give a referendum which you won. There is | :29:56. | :30:00. | |
no need for Ukip any more? There are millions of people out there who | :30:01. | :30:03. | |
voted Ukip and through doing so had seen a dramatic change in British | :30:04. | :30:09. | |
politics. A lot of those people want to go on voting for Ukip. Labour has | :30:10. | :30:13. | |
now put itself in a position where it is so far away from those voters, | :30:14. | :30:17. | |
particular in the Midlands, the North and Wales, who voted for | :30:18. | :30:21. | |
Brexit, that I think actually Ukip can harvest a lot more votes from | :30:22. | :30:25. | |
them. Theresa May's government, it all sounds terrific, doesn't it? But | :30:26. | :30:30. | |
will she actually deliver? And if Brexit doesn't mean Brexit and we | :30:31. | :30:34. | |
don't get our passports back and we don't get our fishing waters back, | :30:35. | :30:38. | |
come the next general election Ukip will be bigger than it's been | :30:39. | :30:43. | |
before. Thank you for talking to us. Thank you. Nigel Farage who is the | :30:44. | :30:47. | |
interim leader of Ukip and they have fresh elections. | :30:48. | :30:55. | |
We can speak now to two other potential leadership contenders. | :30:56. | :30:59. | |
Good morning to you. Good morning. First of all your reaction to the | :31:00. | :31:08. | |
fact that Diane James stepped down one because somebody would appear to | :31:09. | :31:12. | |
not be very well in her family and two because of somebody spitting at | :31:13. | :31:16. | |
her not that long ago when she had become leader? Well, it is a huge | :31:17. | :31:19. | |
disappointment for the party. Not only did we have the shock of Nigel | :31:20. | :31:24. | |
resigning on the Monday morning, now we have this other shock of Diane | :31:25. | :31:30. | |
resigning as well. I mean, it put our party back I would say several | :31:31. | :31:35. | |
months now so I can't see we will be up and running with regard to fresh | :31:36. | :31:39. | |
policies and with regard to a vigorous approach to planning the | :31:40. | :31:42. | |
2017 local elections until the end of this year or the beginning of | :31:43. | :31:46. | |
next year so it is a huge disappointment to us. Peter, Diane | :31:47. | :31:52. | |
James didn't take part in any hustings, didn't, there weren't many | :31:53. | :31:57. | |
interviews when she put her candidacy forward, I wonder if she | :31:58. | :32:03. | |
had gone through that process and the questioning from the likes of | :32:04. | :32:06. | |
terrible journalist that she would have realised it wasn't a job she | :32:07. | :32:10. | |
didn't want? Diane took the decision not to do the debates and hustings, | :32:11. | :32:14. | |
it didn't do her any harm when it came to the actual leadership | :32:15. | :32:17. | |
election. Think the point is this really - things are very | :32:18. | :32:22. | |
hypothetical when you want to maybe become leader, it is still | :32:23. | :32:26. | |
hypothetical even if you are on the frontline of politics, but when you | :32:27. | :32:31. | |
take over as Nigel said, it becomes a different story altogether. Not | :32:32. | :32:36. | |
long ago xhoum was going to stand to be leader of the Labour Party, this | :32:37. | :32:41. | |
wasn't long ago and then he withdrew after two or three days because the | :32:42. | :32:45. | |
level of pressure on his family and all the rest of it was just too | :32:46. | :32:50. | |
much. And what happens therefore, is that people have different | :32:51. | :32:52. | |
thresholds of what they can take and I think that really in a way, credit | :32:53. | :32:57. | |
where credit is due, Diane went sooner rather than later and I think | :32:58. | :33:01. | |
that you know, the fact is I don't think really that the party has been | :33:02. | :33:06. | |
put back because this will be forgotten about by next year, we | :33:07. | :33:11. | |
will have a new leader and we are 16% in the polls, we are setting the | :33:12. | :33:16. | |
whole political agenda at the Tory Party conference at the moment, we | :33:17. | :33:20. | |
have an absolute point. We have a bigger point than ever in fact. When | :33:21. | :33:27. | |
does your ruling governing body meet next to discuss this turmoil? We | :33:28. | :33:31. | |
will behaving a meeting on 17th October when we will be discussing | :33:32. | :33:34. | |
the issue of interim leader. I only heard today coming into the studio | :33:35. | :33:38. | |
that Nigel Farage is now positioned as the interim leader and has had | :33:39. | :33:44. | |
information from the Electoral Commission about that. Clearly, we | :33:45. | :33:49. | |
will be discussing that at length. When I say the party has been put | :33:50. | :33:53. | |
back, it has really, because we were hoping to be up and running, to be | :33:54. | :34:00. | |
organising for the local elections and this resignation stalled that | :34:01. | :34:02. | |
process. You will throw your hat into the ring? I may well do. Are | :34:03. | :34:08. | |
you prepared for what Diane James hasn't been prepared for? God, yes, | :34:09. | :34:11. | |
I have been through a lot of this before. I have contested 11 | :34:12. | :34:15. | |
elections for Ukip. Sure. Nigel Farage says unless you're doing it, | :34:16. | :34:20. | |
it is only then when you realise? It is a 24/7 responsibility, but if | :34:21. | :34:24. | |
you're from a professional background then I'm sure, well, I | :34:25. | :34:29. | |
wouldn't say it is easy, but it is a predictable state of stresses that | :34:30. | :34:32. | |
you will be experiencing. And you're going to throw your hat into the | :34:33. | :34:35. | |
ring, are you? I'm thinking about it. But this is not the point really | :34:36. | :34:39. | |
at the moment. What we've got to do is look at the extraordinary talent | :34:40. | :34:44. | |
that we have in the frontbench if you like of our party. Have a proper | :34:45. | :34:48. | |
discussion over the next few weeks, do all the hustings and then emerge | :34:49. | :34:51. | |
with someone that we know and that we have questioned. That's really | :34:52. | :34:56. | |
what we should do. But I must emphasise again that, we are not | :34:57. | :35:01. | |
going anywhere soon. Ukip is here to stay absolutely. And all parties | :35:02. | :35:05. | |
have setbacks, I don't accept that this is really a setback. It is | :35:06. | :35:09. | |
better to get it out of the way now than having it had spun on for god | :35:10. | :35:13. | |
knows how long. OK. Thank you very much. | :35:14. | :35:18. | |
Thank you. A couple of comments, Tina says, "As a Ukip member, I'm | :35:19. | :35:22. | |
saddened, but BBC please don't blow it out of proportion. There were | :35:23. | :35:28. | |
other reasons for Diane James' resignation, including being shaken | :35:29. | :35:33. | |
by an attack on Waterloo station and her husband's health." Eric tweets, | :35:34. | :35:41. | |
"There is no getting rid of Nigel" Dara says if Nigel Farage wants to | :35:42. | :35:46. | |
escape from the leadership, he could borrow John Darwin's canoe." | :35:47. | :35:51. | |
As the London Film Festival kicks off celebrating | :35:52. | :35:54. | |
black talent in cinema, we'll ask its director | :35:55. | :35:56. | |
Also coming up, Tyson Fury admits having taken "lots of cocaine" | :35:57. | :36:02. | |
We'll talk to his former trainer about whether the heavyweight | :36:03. | :36:06. | |
champion can get his career back on track. | :36:07. | :36:10. | |
But more importantly his health actually. | :36:11. | :36:16. | |
Are flexible working arrangements only for the well off? | :36:17. | :36:19. | |
New research shows that if you're a low earner you're far less likely | :36:20. | :36:22. | |
to be given flexible working arrangements, which can include | :36:23. | :36:24. | |
things like working from home or working part time. | :36:25. | :36:28. | |
Parents who earn more than ?70,000 a year are nearly | :36:29. | :36:32. | |
50% more likely to work flexibly than those earning | :36:33. | :36:34. | |
We can speak now to Gaenor Bagley who is a mum of three and senior | :36:35. | :36:41. | |
partner at a city firm who has flexible working arrangements. | :36:42. | :36:45. | |
Bill Stringer, whose small investment company has seen | :36:46. | :36:50. | |
the benefit of flexible workers, and Juliet Turnbull who owns | :36:51. | :36:53. | |
a recruitment company targeted specifically at mums wanting | :36:54. | :36:55. | |
And in our Salford studio is Kellie Siommons who | :36:56. | :37:02. | |
quit her teaching job because she was refused flexible | :37:03. | :37:05. | |
Hello all of you. Kellie, you were a deputy head and you asked for | :37:06. | :37:12. | |
flexible working after your second child. What hours did you want to | :37:13. | :37:18. | |
work? I wanted to work between 9.30am and 2.20pm so I could take my | :37:19. | :37:23. | |
children to cycle and pick them up myself rather than relying on | :37:24. | :37:26. | |
breakfast and after school clubs and I do the rest of my workload from | :37:27. | :37:31. | |
home because my job wasn't a face-to-face role the majority of | :37:32. | :37:34. | |
the time. So when they turned that down, what was your response? My | :37:35. | :37:38. | |
response was initially I went back to work on the arrangement that they | :37:39. | :37:42. | |
did put in place for me. It was always a temporary arrangement and | :37:43. | :37:44. | |
when we had the discussion about how we move forward after the temporary | :37:45. | :37:48. | |
arrangement ended, I decided then this it wasn't for me. I to make a | :37:49. | :37:53. | |
choice between seeing my children grow up or having that career. So I | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
chose to walk away from my job so I could see my children grow up. OK, | :37:59. | :38:01. | |
do you think they did anything wrong or actually when you are a deputy | :38:02. | :38:04. | |
head you have to be there during school hours? I think that yes, in | :38:05. | :38:09. | |
one respect, but there were people under me who could do the majority | :38:10. | :38:13. | |
of the day-to-day management of that situation. So I think that, yeah, | :38:14. | :38:18. | |
from a business prospective I do believe they had to think about what | :38:19. | :38:23. | |
works best for the business, but from an individual prospective, I do | :38:24. | :38:26. | |
think I could have done that role in the proposal I put forward. Fair | :38:27. | :38:32. | |
enough. So you are a partner, a former Executive Board member at a | :38:33. | :38:36. | |
big multinational firm. It is well paid of the it is high pressured, it | :38:37. | :38:39. | |
is a lot of responsibility. How is it possible to do that in four days | :38:40. | :38:43. | |
a week? I think you have to be organised and very clear about your | :38:44. | :38:48. | |
boundaries. In a being more senior means you have more control about | :38:49. | :38:52. | |
the shape of your job and you have a team underneath you, but you have | :38:53. | :38:55. | |
responsibilities about that to be a clear role model and make it work, | :38:56. | :38:59. | |
but for me, it is about really setting boundaries and being | :39:00. | :39:02. | |
flexible both ways. I need to do this. But I will be flexible and | :39:03. | :39:05. | |
come in and do other things. Do you think there is truth to this | :39:06. | :39:09. | |
research today which suggests if you are in higher paid work, you have | :39:10. | :39:12. | |
more control, you are more likely to get flexible working if you request | :39:13. | :39:16. | |
it? Well, there seems to be evidence that's the case. Two reasons, | :39:17. | :39:21. | |
probably you are more senior and the firm has invested in, there is more | :39:22. | :39:25. | |
trust, but if you think that true, why do you only trust people that | :39:26. | :39:31. | |
you have known for ten years. We have got to re-think how we approach | :39:32. | :39:36. | |
the world of work. So many people need to work flexibly and we can't | :39:37. | :39:41. | |
count them out of the workforce. Do you think there is a pool of mums | :39:42. | :39:46. | |
who want to work, but raise their children at the same time? Yes, it | :39:47. | :39:51. | |
is huge. Is it? I have got them on my website and they are registering | :39:52. | :39:56. | |
24 hours a day. All across the country and even abroad. And you're | :39:57. | :40:00. | |
trying to match them up with employers who are happy to offer | :40:01. | :40:05. | |
flexible working? Our mission is really, really simple. We are there | :40:06. | :40:08. | |
to match and connect employers from large organisations through to small | :40:09. | :40:12. | |
businesses across the UK, who get the value of employing this mother | :40:13. | :40:16. | |
on a part-time flexible basis. Bill, you are a boss who gets that? | :40:17. | :40:22. | |
Absolutely. You just employed two mums through Juliette's company. | :40:23. | :40:26. | |
What sort of jobs and what salaries? We have hired a group marketing | :40:27. | :40:31. | |
manager, Suzy, we didn't need a full-timer, we run a portfolio of | :40:32. | :40:37. | |
small businesses. And we, in a small business, you have to have the best | :40:38. | :40:41. | |
talent and it is hard to find and what I recognised through Juliette's | :40:42. | :40:46. | |
website is there is a huge pool of what TA Talent out there that can't | :40:47. | :40:50. | |
seem to access the workplace and great for us because we have been | :40:51. | :40:54. | |
able to and there is Karen my assistant, again, she is able to | :40:55. | :40:58. | |
work flexibly and I can be very flexible too. By that, you mean the | :40:59. | :41:02. | |
hours she works or the fact that sometimes she is at home to do work | :41:03. | :41:06. | |
or what does that mean? Both Suzy and Karen work from home, but we | :41:07. | :41:12. | |
communicate daily and we meet weekly. So communication is very | :41:13. | :41:19. | |
important. Let's have a look at your own company. What is it about or | :41:20. | :41:24. | |
your working life actually, sometimes bosses are just not happy | :41:25. | :41:29. | |
with people working from home. They can't let go slash trust that | :41:30. | :41:33. | |
employee. I think it is dealing with change, isn't it? You're challenging | :41:34. | :41:39. | |
the status quo. Somebody like me is saying, "I'm going to work in a | :41:40. | :41:43. | |
different way from you." You have to get over that puzzlement, confusion, | :41:44. | :41:47. | |
I don't understand how this is going to work. I always say to people, in | :41:48. | :41:52. | |
order for our people to trust us, we have to trust them. Work is | :41:53. | :41:57. | |
something you do, it is in the a place you go to. Juliette then, this | :41:58. | :42:07. | |
hidden untapped pool of mums are probably watching our programme | :42:08. | :42:10. | |
right now. If they want to go back to work, how do they get in touch | :42:11. | :42:17. | |
with you? It is www. Www.e 2 to 3 days.com and they complete their | :42:18. | :42:19. | |
profile which they can do in a matter of minutes and then there are | :42:20. | :42:24. | |
jobs on our site. We're growing by the day from large corporations | :42:25. | :42:26. | |
through to microbusinesses who get the value. Bill, what would you say | :42:27. | :42:30. | |
to bosses who might be looking at you thinking you're being taken for | :42:31. | :42:35. | |
a ride here, mate? I've Karen and Suzy have been with the business for | :42:36. | :42:40. | |
sometime now. And the results are fantastic and the next time we have | :42:41. | :42:46. | |
an opportunity, I'm straight on to Juliette. | :42:47. | :42:48. | |
Thank you very much all of you, thank you. Thanks, Kellie. | :42:49. | :42:56. | |
The film industry has come under fire recently | :42:57. | :42:58. | |
The Oscars have been fiercely criticised over the past two years | :42:59. | :43:02. | |
for a lack of black nominees, with some actors and directors | :43:03. | :43:05. | |
Idris Elba sums up the situation well when he says, | :43:06. | :43:09. | |
"Talent is everywhere. Opportunity isn't". | :43:10. | :43:16. | |
Star Wars Rogue One actor Riz Ahmed says, "the industry is too reluctant | :43:17. | :43:19. | |
Another young upcoming actress told the BBC earlier this year she's | :43:20. | :43:22. | |
tired of being cast always as a slave. | :43:23. | :43:29. | |
Daniel Radcliffe, who now also has a vote | :43:30. | :43:42. | |
in the awarding of some Oscars, told me a few weeks ago he thought | :43:43. | :43:45. | |
Yeah, I think it's pretty undeniable. | :43:46. | :43:48. | |
I mean, that's the thing, we like to think of ourselves | :43:49. | :43:50. | |
as being, you know, a very, very progressive industry. | :43:51. | :43:52. | |
But we sort of have been lagging behind in all | :43:53. | :43:55. | |
kinds of areas that have been very well-documented. | :43:56. | :43:57. | |
I think there is lots of things about the Oscars, | :43:58. | :43:59. | |
there's lots of amazing performances every year that don't get recognised | :44:00. | :44:02. | |
and it can be for things like they were released | :44:03. | :44:04. | |
I don't know a huge amount about it but I understand there is a | :44:05. | :44:09. | |
real campaign structure that you have to go | :44:10. | :44:11. | |
through if you are going to get one of those things. | :44:12. | :44:13. | |
I feel like there is a lot of kind of unseen about | :44:14. | :44:16. | |
Do you feel that by being able to vote you can make a difference? | :44:17. | :44:21. | |
Yeah, I can make a tiny difference. Absolutely, yeah. | :44:22. | :44:23. | |
I do think now that these conversations have come up it's | :44:24. | :44:29. | |
going to, you know, things are going to start changing. | :44:30. | :44:31. | |
I'm starting to see it in scripts I read, actually | :44:32. | :44:35. | |
particularly for female characters because you are just seeing people | :44:36. | :44:37. | |
actually trying to make more of an effort. | :44:38. | :44:46. | |
But this year's London Film Festival, which starts today, | :44:47. | :44:48. | |
Organisers say this year's theme is called Black Star. | :44:49. | :44:58. | |
Our entertainment reporter Chi Chi Izundu is here. | :44:59. | :45:04. | |
Black star is going to be celebrating black stars celebrating | :45:05. | :45:09. | |
films throughout history and recent ones. The talent that we have in | :45:10. | :45:13. | |
this country and in the States. How much of the problem is that, | :45:14. | :45:22. | |
this lack of diversity? Report came out last month saying diversity | :45:23. | :45:26. | |
across-the-board weather about your colour, gender or sexual bias, is | :45:27. | :45:32. | |
still a massive problem. 17 out of the 100 top grossing films didn't | :45:33. | :45:36. | |
feature a black actor at all that is a problem, out of the nearly 4500 | :45:37. | :45:43. | |
speaking parts, only less than 32% went to a woman in a Hollywood film. | :45:44. | :45:49. | |
Another one is Tim Burton's his latest film has come under fire | :45:50. | :45:55. | |
because it didn't have any diversity except Samuel L. Jackson. But then | :45:56. | :45:59. | |
it turned out he was the first leading black actor to appear in a | :46:00. | :46:03. | |
Tim Burton film and he's made 36. Wow. Thank you. We can speak to | :46:04. | :46:11. | |
Claire Stewart now. Celebration of black talent, why has it taken so | :46:12. | :46:18. | |
long? I think for us it coincides very much with a recognition that | :46:19. | :46:24. | |
this has not been sufficiently champion. From the BFI perspective | :46:25. | :46:29. | |
it's about taking very active strategies, in terms of getting | :46:30. | :46:34. | |
behind film-making talent and creating, through the diversity | :46:35. | :46:40. | |
standards the BFI are setting up, a platform for funding films on the | :46:41. | :46:44. | |
basis of diversity. How would that work, in terms of the funding and | :46:45. | :46:52. | |
getting access to that cash? My colleague, this is his field, it's | :46:53. | :46:57. | |
about putting a set of requirements in place behind the camera, because | :46:58. | :47:00. | |
one of the things that we do recognise it when there is more | :47:01. | :47:04. | |
diversity behind the camera, that does translate into more diverse | :47:05. | :47:09. | |
stories on screen. At the BFI London film Festival this year, we have a | :47:10. | :47:15. | |
really substantive programme, 249 films, but there are some real | :47:16. | :47:19. | |
highlights, in terms of black stories and black performances. Some | :47:20. | :47:26. | |
examples? Our opening night film is the United Kingdom, a new film by | :47:27. | :47:30. | |
the first black film-maker to open the London film Festival, which in | :47:31. | :47:35. | |
itself points to a historical issue. She's done an impassioned, elegant | :47:36. | :47:44. | |
drama about the true story of the King of what is now Botswana, and | :47:45. | :47:53. | |
his marriage to way white London office worker, place by Rosamund | :47:54. | :48:04. | |
Pike. The film is by David yellow, who is an advocate for black | :48:05. | :48:09. | |
representation and women actors. He stars in another film we have on the | :48:10. | :48:18. | |
programme. A very inspirational story that comes out of Uganda. Ruth | :48:19. | :48:28. | |
Ahmed, starts of many things said in an interview recently that the | :48:29. | :48:34. | |
British problem when it comes to a lack of diversity is much worse than | :48:35. | :48:37. | |
the United States. What you think of that? I think that is probably | :48:38. | :48:43. | |
correct. The BFI is undertaking a large research project to bring more | :48:44. | :48:46. | |
statistical information to the surface around this. She is starring | :48:47. | :48:54. | |
in two films in the festival. City of tiny lights, which is a film that | :48:55. | :49:02. | |
is interesting in itself in its depiction of London. Its north-west | :49:03. | :49:07. | |
London on show with all of its diversity. There's only one or two | :49:08. | :49:12. | |
white characters. It felt like a very unfamiliar representation of | :49:13. | :49:18. | |
the UK, in terms of film. I think there's a lot of consciousness | :49:19. | :49:23. | |
burgeoning right now. The important thing, as David, who will be | :49:24. | :49:28. | |
headlining our symposium on this tomorrow, David has spoken not only | :49:29. | :49:32. | |
about the need for discussion and debate, but the need for action. | :49:33. | :49:36. | |
During the festival we will be running a series of workshops and | :49:37. | :49:40. | |
masterclasses for emerging British film-makers from black, Asian, | :49:41. | :49:46. | |
minority ethnic backgrounds. So they have the opportunity to have that | :49:47. | :49:50. | |
exposure to the international film-makers who are in town for the | :49:51. | :49:53. | |
festival. Good luck, thank you very much. Clare Stewart, the director of | :49:54. | :49:55. | |
the London film Festival. The boxer now claims he's taken | :49:56. | :49:59. | |
"lots of cocaine" over the past six months and doesn't know | :50:00. | :50:07. | |
if he'll see the year out. Adding, "I hope someone | :50:08. | :50:12. | |
kills me before I kill myself." He hasn't fought since | :50:13. | :50:16. | |
November when he beat Ukraine's Wladimir Klitschko win | :50:17. | :50:18. | |
the WBA, IBF, WBO and IBO titles. Fury's admission follows weeks | :50:19. | :50:24. | |
of speculation over his well-being. On Saturday he tweeted this image | :50:25. | :50:29. | |
showing his face photo-shopped He's surrounded by white powder | :50:30. | :50:35. | |
and the hashtag, Tyson Montana. Then on Monday he tweeted | :50:36. | :50:43. | |
an expletive laden statement where he appeared to | :50:44. | :50:45. | |
announce his retirement, saying that boxing was the saddest | :50:46. | :50:48. | |
thing he had ever taken part in. A few hours later he retracted that. | :50:49. | :50:55. | |
He said: Joining me now on the phone | :50:56. | :51:06. | |
in Steve Egan, who trained Tyson Fury from the age of 14 up | :51:07. | :51:10. | |
until he turned pro. And David Anderson, who is the | :51:11. | :51:13. | |
boxing correspondent at the Mirror. Hello to both of you. Let me ask you | :51:14. | :51:25. | |
Steve, first of all, what you're thinking when you are seeing what | :51:26. | :51:32. | |
looks like an unravelling of a man you knew so well? Very sad, really. | :51:33. | :51:40. | |
He's obviously got problems going on. Not getting? Sorry? Not getting | :51:41. | :51:50. | |
the full accolade at he should have got when he beat Klitschko. Meaning | :51:51. | :51:57. | |
what? Nobody else got behind him properly, if anyone out beat | :51:58. | :52:01. | |
Klitschko they'd go mad about it. David, what do you think? I know | :52:02. | :52:09. | |
that is an argument use. I covered that fight and our article the next | :52:10. | :52:13. | |
day was full of praise for the British voter abroad. I think the | :52:14. | :52:17. | |
problem was was what Tyson subsequently said and even before | :52:18. | :52:26. | |
that, those comments about gays, women, Jews. A lot of people didn't | :52:27. | :52:29. | |
really like that sort of comment. He had an opportunity, after Klitschko, | :52:30. | :52:37. | |
to become a big household name but unfortunately he went the other way. | :52:38. | :52:40. | |
When you say going the other way. What he's saying in this interview | :52:41. | :52:43. | |
is eyeing a manic depressive. He's talked about being in hospital at | :52:44. | :52:48. | |
the moment. He says he's seeing psychiatrists. He doesn't want to | :52:49. | :52:52. | |
live, all the money in the world, the fame, the glory means nothing if | :52:53. | :52:55. | |
you aren't happy. These are issues that presumably go back sometime? | :52:56. | :53:00. | |
They do indeed. I remember talking to Tyson in 2011 when he beat Dereck | :53:01. | :53:06. | |
Chisora to the British heavyweight title. He was stalking vents about | :53:07. | :53:12. | |
his battles with bulimia. How he would go to a petrol station at the | :53:13. | :53:16. | |
end of night, by a bag of chocolate, eat them in the car until he felt | :53:17. | :53:20. | |
sick and then eat more. He felt worthless and had low self-esteem. | :53:21. | :53:25. | |
He would talk about sitting in his car, revving it up and wanting to | :53:26. | :53:32. | |
drive into a wall. He's had these problems, and fortunate, for a few | :53:33. | :53:36. | |
years. He had been on top of them. He did brilliantly when he beat | :53:37. | :53:40. | |
Klitschko, a fantastic achievement, but unfortunately his Demons are | :53:41. | :53:44. | |
back and in need help in tackling them. Steve, when you were training | :53:45. | :53:49. | |
him between the ages of 14 and 20, you must have been aware of some of | :53:50. | :53:54. | |
those issues, were you? He had the odd time when he felt a bit low. | :53:55. | :53:59. | |
Your job as a coach and a friend is to give him a lift, pick him up and | :54:00. | :54:03. | |
convince him he is the best and he can be a world champion. That is | :54:04. | :54:07. | |
your job as a coach and friend. Do you think he realised how serious it | :54:08. | :54:12. | |
was? No, no, no. Everyone has ups and downs in life. Some tender with | :54:13. | :54:17. | |
and some can't. At the moment it seems like Tyson is struggling a | :54:18. | :54:21. | |
bit. David, one of the quotes makes it clear that he sees himself as a | :54:22. | :54:26. | |
victim. He says ever since he got a bit of fame for doing good there's | :54:27. | :54:30. | |
been a witch on him because of his background? Well that the. Listen, | :54:31. | :54:36. | |
let's be honest, there is unfortunately in this country some | :54:37. | :54:42. | |
bad sentiment. But we have Billy Joe Saunders from the travelling | :54:43. | :54:47. | |
community, he is also a world champion, before that there was Andi | :54:48. | :54:51. | |
Lila who fought for Limerick. He was a traveller as well. These guys were | :54:52. | :54:57. | |
respected and liked by people. I think what our unfortunate are these | :54:58. | :55:03. | |
comments Tyson keeps coming out with against different groups in society. | :55:04. | :55:08. | |
What you think of that, Steve? That he feels it is an anti-traveller | :55:09. | :55:12. | |
sentiment and people have been on his back since he initially beat | :55:13. | :55:15. | |
Klitschko? I think quite a few people in the country don't like | :55:16. | :55:19. | |
travellers. I don't know why. We have a lot of them in our gym and we | :55:20. | :55:26. | |
would have. We bring them through. And yes, the public have to realise | :55:27. | :55:31. | |
how good he is and what great lad he is. Nobody sees what a good kid he | :55:32. | :55:36. | |
is. He's a nice lad. He came down to our gym three weeks ago I did a full | :55:37. | :55:41. | |
session with the kids. He's not superfit because he's not in the | :55:42. | :55:46. | |
best shape, but he stayed all night, signing autographs, having pictures | :55:47. | :55:49. | |
taken with all the kids. He's a good lad. We went for a chat afterwards | :55:50. | :55:54. | |
and he said he's not feeling it. David, do you think we will ever see | :55:55. | :56:00. | |
Tyson Fury box again? I think it is possible. Obviously it's a long way | :56:01. | :56:03. | |
off at the moment because of his mental health issues. There is an | :56:04. | :56:10. | |
anti-doping hearing about his positive test which he vehemently | :56:11. | :56:13. | |
denies. There could be a band. I think he will lose his WBA, WBO | :56:14. | :56:20. | |
titles because he has been inactive so long. But he would go to this | :56:21. | :56:25. | |
champion and recess title when he could challenge for them again if he | :56:26. | :56:28. | |
could get his head straight and come back, if he were banned. I think it | :56:29. | :56:37. | |
will be 12 or 18 months, but he's 28, he is talented enough. He is | :56:38. | :56:42. | |
undefeated, the current heavyweight in the world, he has that status. If | :56:43. | :56:48. | |
he can get his head straight and deal with the other problems outside | :56:49. | :56:51. | |
of the ring, there is a possibility he could fight at sometime in the | :56:52. | :56:55. | |
future. Thank you David, David Anderson, the Mirror's boxing | :56:56. | :57:00. | |
correspondent and Steve, who was Tyson Fury's coach from the age of | :57:01. | :57:03. | |
14 to 20, when he turned pro. This morning we brought you an | :57:04. | :57:12. | |
in-depth interview with an darling who helped fake his husband 's | :57:13. | :57:17. | |
death. She said she will feel guilt forever for lying to her two sons | :57:18. | :57:21. | |
and talked about her experience in prison. A few months after the trial | :57:22. | :57:30. | |
I got a letter, initially from Mark. Just a brief letter. | :57:31. | :57:36. | |
Clare got in touch with us this bunny, not her real name, she worked | :57:37. | :57:40. | |
with Aaron morning. Hello. What are your feelings towards her | :57:41. | :57:52. | |
now? She is a good actress. She did this every day at work. She was | :57:53. | :57:58. | |
forever crying, for ever making us feel really, really bad around her. | :57:59. | :58:02. | |
We used to do everything to try and help, make a coffee or tea, bring | :58:03. | :58:07. | |
her bow case of flowers, anything to cheer her up. And we all believed | :58:08. | :58:13. | |
it. We believed everything she said. Thank you very much, Claire. She | :58:14. | :58:18. | |
referenced that in the interview and said it the emotions were the guilt | :58:19. | :58:21. | |
she was feeling for conning everybody. You can watch the | :58:22. | :58:26. | |
interview again on the programme page on our website. Thank you for | :58:27. | :58:28. | |
watching today, we are back tomorrow. | :58:29. | :58:31. |