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could surge up to 11 feet and winds reach 120 mph if Matthew has its

way. People have been boarding up properties, trying to nail down what

they can. And stocking up on essentials. The picture of what

Matthew could do couldn't be clearer. If you need to evacuate and

you haven't - evacuate. This storm will kill you. Time is running out,

we don't have that much time left. These pictures showed the Harry Kane

as -- show Harry Kane Matthew. There are fears Matthew Cutler loop back

towards Florida via the Bahamas again. -- Matthew could loop. The

extent of the devastation it caused in Haiti is just emerging. The death

toll continues to rise. The relief effort hampered with raging

floodwaters that cut off the south of the island. In this coastal town,

80% of the buildings have been destroyed.

People who had very little to begin with now left with nothing.

Even the wealth of the Bahamas, Haiti's rich neighbour, could not

shelter it from Matthew. And now Florida waits with bated breath for

what it will wake up to, knowing that Matthew respects nothing in its

path. Matt Taylor from BBC Weather

is here to explain. Tell us exactly where it has been

and where it is right now? This is an incredible storm, it has held its

strength. The long time. It is flying across the Caribbean, you can

see from the satellite it has been working over the Bahamas overnight.

Freeport got hit by the are you of the store where the strongest winds

well. It was category four, it has weakened a little bit to category

three, the wind took it to 120 mph. You can see the radar chart, this

shows where the rainfall has been. You can see the bands of rain

spoiling around the eye, the centre bit where there is nothing. That is

where the wind is lightest. It is around bad weather strongest winds.

Crucially, this is offshore. It is around 20 or 30 miles offshore. The

winds are the strongest and fairly tightly packed around that. We are

starting to see winds along the central Florida coast touch around

80 mph at the moment. There is a suggestion it might not make

landfall in the US. What is the latest on that? There is potential

on that, but the winds could still be damaging. The greatest concern in

terms of flooding, both flooding from the sea rising, this could see

waves three metres above where they normally are. There has been reports

from Bhoys in the ocean where we can see waves very high. It is a

low-lying area, highly populated along the Florida- Georgia coast. To

go with that, half a year's worth of rainfall falling in 24 hours. It is

incredible, it is a monster. Where is it going? There are suggestions

that it might loop back. It will probably hug the coast and stay

offshore. The flood risk extends into Georgia on Saturday. Where Rick

goes is uncertain, there is potential it could loop back. But

there is also potential it could go out into the Atlantic, we will keep

an eye on that in the next few days. Thank you for keeping an eye on

that. We will be live in Miami and also just north of there with two

respondents on the ground with the latest from there.

Annita McVeigh is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has started reshuffling his cabinet,

but critics have suggested he's already failed in his promise

to unite the parliamentary party. One of Mr Corbyn's closest allies,

Diane Abbott, has been promoted to Shadow Home Secretary -

a position she says she's honoured to have.

And the former civil liberties campaigner Shami Chakrabarti,

who was recently made a Labour peer after her review into anti-Semitism

in the party, joins the top team as Shadow Attorney General.

We will have more on that story in just a moment.

Ukip's Steven Woolfe has told reporters he was punched

by a colleague after a meeting of his party's MEPs.

The Ukip leadership hopeful is recovering

in hospital after he collapsed at the European

He told the Daily Mail that his colleague Mike Hookem came

A spokesman for Mr Hookem denied he had been involved in a fight.

The party says it's investigating the incident, as our Political

The damage done to his party may take much longer to repair.

The altercation here in the European Parliament

is understood to have taken place following a heated

Steven Woolfe's team announced online he had been

Nigel Farage said an altercation took place after the gathering

of MEPs, where it is understood some of Stephen Woolfe's colleagues

were angry he'd thought about joining the Conservatives

despite wanting to be Ukip's next leader.

In the UK we are always being told...

Ukip said it did not deny reports that their defence spokesman

Mike Hookem was the MEP that left the room with Mr Woolfe.

A spokesman for Mike Hookem denied being involved in a physical fight.

I have spoken with our party leader, and we've agreed there

will be an investigation into the events of this morning.

But understandably today, as Nigel has already outlined,

our thoughts are with Stephen and his health, the priority

is making sure that Stephen recovers quickly.

This comes just days after Diane James said she would not

take up her role as Ukip Leader, plunging the party into a fresh

This latest incident has led to the top donor of a party

threatening to remove his support, saying Ukip was at breaking point

and blaming high-profile figures who had joined

Stephen Woolfe says he is back to his smiling self.

It might be much longer before joy returns to his party.

Let's return now to the Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn's reshuffle of

his Cabinet. Our Political Correspondent Alan

Soady joins us from Westminster. Good morning, Alan. When Jeremy

Corbyn was re-elected as leader, you promised he would reunite the Labour

Party. But judging by some of the reaction to this reshuffle so far,

that will not be easy to accomplish? That's right. The real test of this

reshuffle was always going to be to what extent he is offering out the

olive branch. He talked in his conference speech at the Labour

Party conference last week about coming together, reunifying the

party. Some of his internal critics will be a little concerned that some

of his closest allies have been rewarded for their loyalty,

particularly Diane Abbott getting a big promotion the Shadow Home

Secretary. Shami Chakrabarti, the performer director of Liberty, who

has only just been given a peerage from Labour, she already becomes the

shadow Attorney General. On the other hand, there are still more

appointment is to be made today. And there have been a couple of olive

branches at least. For example, Kearse,, performer Director of

Public Prosecutions, not generally known as a fan of Jeremy Corbyn, he

has been made the Brexit secretary. Neal Gruffydd, another MP who

resigned from Jeremy Corbyn's top team at a protest of his leadership,

she comes back into the fold. Whether there is real anger

simmering away in Jeremy Corbyn's internal opponents is his decision

to sack the Chief Whip, Rosie Winterton. She was seen as something

of a diplomat behind-the-scenes who had stuck with it through thick and

thin, who had helped broker peace between the two wings of the party,

and yet the first announcement when they started coming out late

yesterday that she is being dropped. That is important, because it is not

just whether Jeremy Corbyn is willing to give jobs to his internal

opponents, it is also whether they are willing to accept jobs. There

are some suggestions that some who may have perhaps been willing to

give it another go so incensed at Rosie Winterton being dropped as the

person in charge of party discipline that they now won't come back. Alan,

from the current Labour leader to a previous Labour leader, Tony Blair,

he has been giving a hint, just a hint, that he may consider a return

to front line politics. What can you tell us? Of all the bizarre twists

and turns in British politics, you'd have thought we'd had enough for now

and we didn't need another one, and yet absolutely extraordinary from

Tony Blair in a magazine article, saying the question of whether he

would return to front line British politics in some way, shape or form,

is an open question. He says he is very worried that the country seems

to have become pretty much a 1-party state for the Conservatives, and one

that has a Prime Minister who hasn't been elected as Prime Minister,

while his own party has drifted off to the left wing. Now, he doesn't

give any sort of detail of what on earth he might have in mind of any

sort of possible political comeback. Could you really see Tony Blair

sitting in a Jeremy Corbyn cabinet? It would be pretty bizarre. But then

again, we live in funny political times. Thank you, Alan Soady.

The pound fell dramatically against the dollar when Asian

markets opened this morning - suffering the biggest drop

in value since the UK voted to leave the EU.

At one point, sterling fell by almost 10% against the dollar,

and it also plunged against the euro before quickly rebounding.

Doctors have warned of the dangers of giving children complementary

therapies after a four-year-old boy ended up in A

He had been taking 12 different holistic supplements -

including vitamin D and camel's milk -

He developed a potentially fatal condition, but made a full recovery.

Writing in the British Medical Journal, clinicians

from St Bartholomew's Hospital in London said it should be "routine

practice" to ask whether patients are taking any

We will have more on this story later in the show.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30am.

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Let's get some sport with Hugh Woozencroft.

Hugh, some allegations coming out overnight concerning former

New Zealand rugby union player Dan Carter.

Good morning, Joanne. These allegations coming overnight from

the French newspaper L'Equipe, which reported that the form all Blacks

Dan Carter gave drug tests which showed anomalies, but the pair's

manager said they had therapeutic use exemptions, we are becoming very

familiar with that term, TUEs, giving them exemptions. The coach

said that the understanding and assure insist that all the documents

around the TUE was in place. Dan Carter is regarded as one of the

sport's greatest ever players, and the winger scored 20 points between

them as their team, racing Metro, beat to launch back in June. They

were all tested by France's anti-doping agency, you're in

samples from the two of them received traces of something called

corticosteroids. Carter played 112 tests for New Zealand, he was part

of the all Blacks side which won the World Cup a year ago. The winger

scored 46 tries in 28 tests, two very big names indeed in Robbie

union currently having their integrity questioned.

And a former Team Sky cyclist has been talking about the use of

prescribed medicines? Yes, staying with the same theme,

the use of the therapeutic use exemptions, Jonathan Kinnon Locke

has questioned the team's stands in allowing Bradley Wiggins to take a

banned drug for his asthma. He was allowed to take it before his 2012

Tour de France win. Athletes are allowed to take certain substances

if there is a medical need. The cyclist was offered an illegal but

controversial painkiller four years ago and told our sports editor that

he was offered tramadol buy a doctor, but the doctor denies the

claim. There was a time I rode the World

Championships, we were offered a painkiller called tramadol, I was

not in any pain so I did not need to take it, it was offered freely. We

are seeing later on that they are calling for it to be banned, it

should be on the Wada list and whatnot. It did not sit well with me

at the time, I thought, I am not in pain, why would I need a painkiller?

You can see more of that interview on the BBC sport website, he also

discusses his own troubles, insisting he is 100% innocent of

doping despite a two-year ban for irregularities in his blood

passport, but it looks like this issue is set to continue. We will

have more on that later in the programme.

It's the most powerful Caribbean storm in a decade.

Hurricane Matthew killed at least 300 people as it

The International Red Cross has told this programme 80% of people

Now the south east coast of the United States is bracing

The hurricane is now bearing down on Florida.

It's set to be the strongest storm to hit the United States for 12

years, with the threat of 130mph winds and huge storm surges.

In a moment we'll be live in Miami for the latest,

but first Ines Brill from the Red Cross in Haiti says

that urgent humanitarian assistance is needed.

She told me relief agencies don't yet know the full extent

of what they are dealing with, particularly in outlying areas

where communications are down and transport infrastructure badly

We think that more than 1 million people have been affected, that

hundreds of thousands are in need of humanitarian assistance. We were

there before the hurricane hit doing preparedness and sensitising the

population to evacuate. Right now obviously we are in the response

phase, and be prepared already an emergency appeal that will fund

basically first aid and emergency help and psychological support,

treatment of water and sanitation, assistance and cleaning water and

personal hygiene items and basic needs for the population. The Red

Cross movement is currently in the country working very hard in the

affected areas right now. Our teams see Jeremie particularly, massive

disruption in the town, water and electricity have been cut and

medical services are not functioning animal, the population are urgently

needs food, clean water, and obviously help assistance. It is

going to obviously take some time to get to every area that has been

affected. Based on previous experience, how long would you

expect that to take? Our teams have reported, I think it is quite a big

emergency in the sense that with the information we have received almost

80% of the population were homeless, there is no water, communications

were very difficult, and since the roads were blocked obviously it was

very difficult to access and provide humanitarian assistance, so I think

it is going to be difficult to start right now because of these

constraints, but obviously housing, water, sanitation, infrastructure,

it is going to take some time. Sorry, I could not hear clearly, did

you say 30% or 80% of the population? 80%, at least in

Jeremie, our teams reported there was a very big portion of the

population homeless, there are groups were blown up and then

obviously this is not an official figure in the sense that we need to

go there and assess what happened, what the damages were and what kind

of needs the population have at this stage. So in a community where 80%

of the population are homeless, how do people come together? They need

urgently to receive support and the government is trying to assess what

is happening, the humanitarian community is trying to coordinate,

we are working very closely, the Red Cross is working closely with the

Haitian government to capture the full extent of the damage and the

humanitarian need. Ines Brill from the Red Cross, thank you very much.

That is the picture in Haiti. Let's go live now to Florida -

first to our correspondent Luis Fajardo, who's in Miami

on the south east coast. And we can go further up

the coast to Melbourne, which is about an hour

away from Orlando, and speak to ABC's correspondent

Jim Ryan who's there. And we can speak to Jason Foster -

he calls himself a storm chaser and he's been filming

Hurricane Matthew this morning. He's in Melbourne too

and is on the phone now. Jason, thank you for joining us,

what has it been like? Pretty hectic, we have a night-time

landfall, most of the activity has been at night so it has been

difficult to see the damage and things but the winds have been very

strong and a lot of activity going on as far as the weather. Luckily

everybody has pretty much cleared out of town and done the evacuation,

so from what I can tell so far up the evacuation has really worked and

most people have stayed safe with this one. Luis, you are in Miami,

what is the situation there? A sense of relief, we were told to expect a

very serious storm but thankfully it moved a little to the right and did

not really affect Miami. People of cores are very concerned about what

is going on in the north of the state and the central part of the

state, and the stories about Haiti, Miami has a very big Haitian

population so it strikes close to home even though Miami, fortunately,

for the time being, has not been very hurt by this. For the time

being? It could still have an impact, presumably? Some

meteorologists are suggesting that the storm could have a path that

might turn back to the south, to sub in Florida and the Bahamas, at this

point it is only speculation and projections, but people are still

paying close attention to this storm, which was supposed to be the

first major storm to hit this area in more than ten years. So, again,

Miami has kept its Lucky strike for the time being. Let's go to Jim

Ryan, who is about an hour away from Orlando. What is it like where you

are? Good morning. High winds now, extreme rain began late last night

and is nearly constant, most of the power has gone out around

this community. Not many people are around to see it because the

evacuation orders have been heeded in large part so while power is out,

the wind is raging, the rain is coming down, but most of the people

who live and vacation here have evacuated, heeding the warnings that

went out late yesterday from the governor, whose words were stern, he

said, Hurricane Matthew can kill you. It seems it will not be as bad

as had been feared because hopefully the hurricane will not touch the

land? This storm has been unpredictable, it is about 45 miles

to the latest Reading East of where I am, offshore. If it takes a little

turn to the left towards the shoreline at this point it would

have devastating impact if it made landfall here. It could be just as

bad though if it stays offshore, causing open up along the shoreline

through Florida to Georgia, the Carolinas, it could impact many more

people than it would if it made a direct hit here. And whatever

happens, that many people leaving an area and then returning have an

impact, doesn't it? What will happen in terms of an orderly return of

people? The evacuation was remarkably orderly. I remember a

storm that hit Huston a few years ago and caused mass destruction,

confusion as millions of people hit the road. This time it has been

fairly orderly, fairly phased, in other words people left in phases

which kept the traffic from being too bad, and I assumed the return

would be just as orderly, not in a panic situation either. Jason is in

the same area and said the same, that there are not so many people

around. You have experience of storm chasing, you have seen these things

many times, how does this compare with your previous experience? Was

that for me? Yes, Jason. It was interesting because for years we

have talked about in Florida, because we did not have any

hurricanes, there would be a forgetfulness of how serious the

situation was, whereas other years, year two there is always a reminder,

it is pretty serious, we have to do this, which now we have gone through

it and there has been evacuations and it has worked as a good thing,

the storm has been intense, as strong as something you folks were

talking about, very unpredictable but very strong, there was a

potential with hurricane Charley back in 2004, a strong storm like

that, so its strength compares but so far it has stayed offshore and

everybody is thankful, so far, that that is the case. Jim, it must be

terrifying knowing that you are in the path of something where you can

see the impact it is having in areas prior to coming to where you are.

How do people react to that? Yes, I think it prompted them to action.

There is concern even among veterans of storms like this, there has not

been a powerful storm like this in this part of the country for about

11 years but people who have been here longer than that recognise the

potential danger and they are willing to pack up their cars and

trucks and leave the area. Unfortunately there has been a

population explosion along the coast in the past decade or so and many

people who live here have not been through this

sort of storm and government leaders were concerned people would not take

it seriously. This car is being rocked back and forth by the wind

which is pushing to regain strength at this point. Even if it does not

hit the land, it was to have a big impact? Absolutely, the size of the

storm and the intense wind speeds, even if it does not make a direct

hit, it will still have a big impact in the area. What is the time frame

now? Over the next several hours, 12, 15, 16 hours, we will continue

to the effect from this large storm, some 300 miles across, I believe,

from side to side, as it makes its way up the coast. We are looking at

many hours of very heavy rain still to come and high winds. Jason, what

is it that makes you want to race into an area with a storm like this

when everyone else is leaving? It is one of those things, I go after the

footage, it is the storytelling aspect of it, it first started out

as a general interest in mother nature and the extreme aspect of it,

but the more I have done it it is the fact that people do evacuate and

they don't always get a chance to see why, and I am providing the why,

when people see the footage they are like, oh, yeah, that is why I leave,

that is why it is a great idea to evacuate, because they can see for

real what the footage is, and I can do it as an expert and then other

people can just watch it on TV and on shows later on and see it. Have

you ever felt at risk yourself? Oh, yeah, there is always a risk. One of

the things as a storm chaser, hurricane Jason, you are always

trying to evaluate how to mitigate the risk down to the lowest amount

possible. You don't do this without risk, there is always a risk, but

sometimes, those rewards come with that risk, so you have to worry

about storm surge and flying debris, and other dangers, it takes longer

hours, I have been up 24 hours and that comes with its own risks, so

you have to balance and know how to work that. Jason Foster, Storm

Jonas, and ABC correspondent Jim Ryan, thank you both very much. --

storm chaser. One of its MEPs is in hospital

following a bust-up with a colleague, and one

of its main donors is threatening to withdraw his support,

saying the party's Can Ukip pull itself together

again? And we'll be talking

about racism on and off the football pitch with Liverpool's first black

player Howard Gayle, Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news. Hurricane Matthew, the most powerful

storm to threaten the US Atlantic coast for 12 years,

is now moving towards Florida. Officials in Haiti say more than 300

people there have been killed. And in the US, around 2 million

people living along the south-east coast have been urged

to move inland. Rick Scott, the Governor of Florida,

has declared a state of emergency Ukip's Steven Woolfe has told

reporters he was punched by a colleague after a meeting

of his party's MEPs. The Ukip leadership hopeful

is recovering in hospital after he collapsed at

the European Parliament yesterday. He told the Daily Mail

that his colleague Mike Hookem came A spokesman for Mr Hookem denied

he had been involved in a fight. The party says it's

investigating the incident. The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has

started reshuffling his cabinet, but critics have suggested he's

already failed in his promise Diane Abbott, has been promoted

to Shadow Home Secretary - a position she says she's

honoured to have. And the former civil liberties

campaigner Shami Chakrabarti, who was recently made a Labour peer

after her review into anti-Semitism in the party, joins the top team

as Shadow Attorney General. Doctors have warned of the dangers

of giving children complementary therapies, after a four-year-old boy

ended up in A He had been taking 12 different

holistic supplements - including vitamin D

and camel's milk - He developed a potentially fatal

condition, but made a full recovery. Writing in the British Medical

Journal, clinicians from St Bartholomew's Hospital

in London said it should be "routine practice" to ask whether

patients are taking any The first deal limiting greenhouse

gases from international aviation has been agreed,

after years of arguing. From 2020, any increase in airline

carbon dioxide emissions will be offset by activities

like tree planting, Scientists have welcomed the deal,

but warned that plans to cut That is a summary of the latest BBC

News. More at 10am. Here's some sport now,

with Hugh Woozencroft. It was billed as the toughest trip

of the Wales World Cup qualifying campaign, and afterwards their

manager, Chris Coleman, described it as a point gained. They led twice

against Austria in Vienna, but goals from Marko Arnautovic made it 2-2.

The Republic of Ireland got their first win in the qualifiers, beating

Georgia 1-0 in Dublin. Seamus Coleman's goal put them level on

points with Serbia and Austria. Manchester city's women won their

first match of their Champions League campaign. Lewis Hamilton's

hopes of getting his title challenge back on track have suffered a blow.

Nico Rosberg topped the time sheet in the practice sessions. Edgbaston

will host the first date- night test might session. It will start at 2pm

and end after 9pm. England won the toss and decided to bat in their

first ODI against Bangladesh in back. We will keep you fully updated

with that one. -- in Dakar. It's been another extraordinary week

in the life of Ukip. On Tuesday - their new leader,

Diane James, stood down Yesterday, the man tipped to take

over was hospitalised after an apparent row

with a colleague at Steven Woolfe suffered two seizures

after reportedly getting into a fight with another Ukip

member after a heated party Mr Woolfe issued a statement

from his hospital bed yesterday saying he was feeling much better

and he's due to be discharged later. He also told the Daily Mail that

Ukip's Defence Spokesperson, Mike Hookem, "came at me

and landed a blow". Nigel Farage - who's back

as the party's stand-in leader - condemned the incident,

saying he would be launching an inquiry to get

to the bottom of it. We can chat about this

now with Lisa Duffy, who's a Ukip councillor,

and was runner up in the last Ukip She gave her reaction to Radio 4's

today programme. Mike said they were in and MEPs' closed meeting, things

got very heated when they were talking about different subjects,

such as Stephen thinking about defecting to the Tories. Stephen

said, let's take this outside, and started taking his jacket off. Mike

said there was a small scuffle but no punches were thrown. He said it

all opened and Stephen fell backwards and he then hit his head.

He is categorically stating that he never threw a punch at Stephen, and

he will be giving a press conference this afternoon at about 2pm. You

will know that Steven Woolfe is quoted in the Daily Mail

as saying, "Mike came at me and landed a blow". To be fair, I have

not had an opportunity to speak to Stephen. I have known both MEPs for

such a long time, this is a terrible thing to be happening at the moment,

and I'm really wishing Stephen a very speedy recovery. Did Michael

come say he was sorry about what happened? We didn't go into that

level of detail, it was a quick conversation was going to come onto

the radio this morning, I was hoping to have a few moments with him, but

I'm sure he will be talking about that at the press conference that

afternoon. The thing that he was keen for you to get across was that

he didn't hit him? Absolutely. We are joined from Cardiff

by Neil Hamilton, who's Ukip's leader in Wales,

and here in the studio is Dr Simon Usherwood,

senior lecturer in politics at the University of Surrey,

who has a special interest in UKIP Neil Hamilton, you said that Stephen

hit a fight and came off worse, you have been criticised by Ukip's donor

Aaron Banks. Do you stand by what you said? I was just reporting what

I have been told. I made it clear in the interview yesterday that I

wasn't present in the meeting, I was asked, what did you know and what

have you been told's we will find out today what the truth is. Steven

Woolfe has made an extremely serious allegation about Mike Hookem. He

said that he was punched, the consequence was actual bodily harm.

Nigel Farage said yesterday that he thought that even Wolf might

actually die as a consequence of this. Why has he not reported this

to the police? He has actually said that his party colleague came at him

and, yes, he said landed a blow, pushed him into a door frame, but

obviously Mike Hookem is disputing this. Hearing all of this third

hand. Whatever has happened here, I mean, it is just dreadful for the

party, isn't it, how does this look? Dreadful, of course it does, it is

grossly irresponsible, whatever happened. This is the sort of thing

which should not be tolerated by a serious political party which is

vying to be a part of the government of the country, ultimately. And in

Wales, we've got six members in the Welsh Assembly, we're getting on

with our day jobs here, we are absolutely frustrated at the

headlines which have been generated by Ukip Central over the last week

or so. Eusebio shouldn't be tolerated. It looks to be

symptomatic of a party in disarray with senior figures openly fighting

verbally for some time, insult is being thrown all over the place.

Yes, this is absolutely appalling. You referred to Aaron Banks moment

ago. For months now I've been on the receiving end of a tirade of

vilification from Aaron Banks and his followers. A lot of it is

appalling abuse. He has e-mailed my wife and insulted her. And this is

the sort of thing which simply cannot be tolerated. You're all

adults. What's going on? Exactly. I'm not responding to that guide

reviews. Have you never said anything rude about anyone else in

the party? I've defended myself when attacks, but I do not hurl abuse,

certainly personal abuse, at other people. Aaron Banks has said that

Douglas Carswell, our only MP, is semi-autistic, and he's referred

disparagingly to his wonky chin and so on. What are we doing, pitting

people like this to run amok inside our party? Should Aaron Banks go's

he has said he will go if you influence what happens in terms of

trying to block Steven Woolfe standing as leader? I can't block

Steven Woolfe standing as leader, I'm the leader of Ukip's Assembly

Members in Cardiff, I'm a member of Ukip, I'm entitled to my views on a

candidate in an election where I will have a vote. But it is Aaron

Banks simply stirring the pot here in a way which is not helpful to the

party, and he is misrepresenting the situation. Can the party afford not

to have Aaron Banks? What is the state of the party's finances right

now? I can assure you we can afford not to have somebody like Aaron

Banks in our party, I'm not interested in his money, Ukip is not

for sale. In the course of a long life in politics, I've seen many

rich men who suddenly becoming France to buy all the publicity

which politicians are able to generate -- suddenly become

entranced. Many rich men think they can buy political parties as a kind

of trophy or toy to play with. I afraid Aaron Banks is one of those.

He has only been in the party around five minutes and thinks he ruled the

roost. I'm not even aware he has attended a single branch meeting

anywhere, he has never been elected anywhere, we are better off without

people of that kind. What about Nigel Farage, is he ruling the roost

at the moment? He is now interim leader of the party, so, yes, he is

ruling the roost. Going back to the financial position, there are

reports that Ukip is in the red to the tune of several million pounds?

If you look at our financial accounts at companies house, which

were filed only two months ago, last month we had a loss of ?850,000.

These figures are easily dulled with with the right leadership, if people

think it is worth investing in the party -- easily dealt with. That is

a question, is it worth investing in the party's what does the party

stand for now, Brexit has happened, we have got a Tory government

talking about delivering on what the people wanted on immigration, why

would people invest in Ukip, what is the future for it? To start with, it

is going to be at least two years before we leave the European Union,

we have to hold the Government to its promises. We have had some very

high standing slogans from Theresa May, particularly on immigration,

but in the years that she was Home Secretary she added 2 million people

to the population of this country. I'm waiting to see what action takes

place rather than relying on words of somebody who represents a party

which has fallen down on its promises for every single year that

it has been in office. There are a great deal of things for Ukip to do.

Wales, we fought an election in May and got 30% of the vote and seven

Assembly Members are elected on a full programme of domestic reform.

We're the only party calling for the democratisation of the health

service, elected health boards, so the people who actually use the

service can decide its priorities. There is a whole range of domestic

issues that we are fighting for day in and day out in the Welsh

Assembly, we are a shop window every Ukip in the rest of the UK. If Aaron

Banks closes his wallet and nobody else is forthcoming to plug the

financial hole that Ukip has, is the party kaput? No, of course it isn't.

The parties of I've corrupt Aaron Banks before he came on board and we

will survive again. So will the party survived without Aaron Banks.

In member of the Ukip National executive has given the party of

nearly ?2 million over the last few years. There are other donors who

would contribute. In fact, many people would contribute to Ukip who

put off by the antics of people like Aaron Banks. Steven Woolfe, can he,

has he brought the party into disrepute, getting caught up,

whatever the detail is on what has happened, as the party being into

disrepute in a way which means he should not stand as leader? Well,

will find out as a result of an inquiry, I'm not going to speculate

on that, but I will repeat what I said at the start of this programme,

that is somebody makes an allegation of a physical attack which has

resulted in hospitalisation, that is actual bodily harm, and in English

law, you know, that is very definitely a matter for the police.

This alleged assault took place in Strasbourg, and therefore has to be

judged by French law, which I am not an expert on. But nevertheless, it

seems to me that this goes far beyond the need for a party inquiry

and it is something which the police ought to investigate. Should anybody

be looted from the party in the meantime? No, I mean, -- should

anybody be excluded. We will have to see what the results of this

inquiry. I heard Lisa Duffy saying that Mike Hookem is going to make a

statement this afternoon, maybe we will get a better picture in a few

hours' time. Steven Woolfe is saying one thing, Mike Hookem is saying the

other, it shouldn't be too difficult to get to the truth. I interviewed

you yesterday, I think it was, and you said you wouldn't stand. Are you

getting tempted? No, absolutely not. I've never had the slightest

intention of putting my name forward for the leadership of Ukip. I've got

a full-time job in Cardiff is leading the Ukip group. I'm four

days a week in the Assembly in Cardiff, other days I am out and

about in my vast region of mid and West Wales. I'm perfectly happy

doing what I'm doing here. We are working as a cohesive group and

we're making constructive contributions to the political life

of Wales. And we should be the shop window every Ukip in the rest of the

UK, not these kind of sideshows and pantomimes that have been dominated

headlines in the past few weeks. A statement from Nigel Farage, he says

he has confirmed he has asked the party chairman and secretary to

conduct an investigation early next week, from which the truth will be

discovered, all other claims being made in the media by people who were

not there at the time or extremely helpful. It sounds like that might

be partly directed at you. I'm not making any claims. You did speak

about it initially when you it sounded like Steven Woolfe

basically... No, I have not made any statement about what happened

yesterday. I was asked yesterday by a reporter what have I heard, and I

simply reported what I had heard. The newspapers are full of it this

morning not because I have been saying this, Steven Woolfe said one

thing and Mike Hookem said another, this is not something which I have

invented or would be reported but for what I'm saying. It is a new

story, a matter of public interest, dairy inconvenient for Ukip, but we

can't pretend it is not happening. So, you know, I'm not stirring the

pot or doing anything of that kind. But, you know, people out there,

members of Ukip in particular, wondering what is going on.

Simon Ashwood, it is particularly interesting for everyone at the

moment, what do you make of what is going on? I think this reflects a

deeper issue in the party that, as you said, we have had the

referendum, for a lot of voters they think it has been secured, Neal is

right to say that we have not left the EU yet, but the purpose of the

party seems to have disappeared. You are seeing different elements within

the party that are articulate in different ideas about where the

party should be happening. To see all of this playing out so publicly,

the level of infighting that there is, it is an extraordinary thing to

be watching isn't it? It is, but I think we need to still see what

happens with this inquiry and quite what the truth of the matter is. But

regardless I think it reflects on the difficulties that the party

faces in what is a very difficult political landscape. So much has

changed in British politics at the moment, trying to find a way forward

is very hard. Do you think Ukip will survive? I think you have to put

your bets on saying that they will. They have been through similar and

different kinds of conflicts before, internal rifts, they have survived

and persisted through that. Because there was the goal of Brexit? Yes,

but I think you will find people, like Neal, who are still committed

to holding the Government to account, it is an issue that will

remain live in British politics for the next decade at least. The

question is, what more can the party do? How can it build and maintain

the coalition it has had under Nigel Farage, the people who feel they

have been left behind by the system, the people disaffected by politics

and who want to change? That is a constituency which requires a

different. In terms of the finances of the party, what I was talking

about with Neil Hamilton of the financial black hole, the need to

plug that, he was saying that if Aaron Banks goes and does not keep

donating, who knows what will happen, he is threatening to go, but

talking about the importance of people wanting to invest in the

party, is it clear that there are many people out there queueing up to

invest in the party? The party has had a big increase in membership in

the last few years which has helped to increase the number of

subscriptions, small donors helping to provide a stable base, but the

party relies on big donors like Aaron Banks, people making large

contributions. Remember that Aaron Banks has also been responsible for

funding leave .edu, which was... Sorry to interrupt, we are going to

the hospital in Strasberg weather is a statement.

He cannot wait to go and be with them, he is sick of croissant and

looking forward to a good full English breakfast, so he is in good

form. He has been observed overnight, they have been waking him

up as a precaution to keep an eye on him. He was very tired, quite

groggy, but now he is definitely in a better state. The hospital have

moved him to the neurological department as a precaution, and they

have asked to keep him in for a further 48 hours so that they can

observe him. But I must stress that this is precautionary. Stephen has

this morning reached out the hand of friendship to Mr Hookem, to Mike,

and has realised that things did go too far in the MEP meeting, so he

has made moves forward for keeping us all as a band of friends. I also

want to point out the fact that there are people back in the UK who

are speculating about what has been happening both in the EP beating and

also here in the hospital with Stephen's help. That needs to stop.

Stephen has a large family and they are concerned about things they are

hearing through the media and we are asking that people who are in the

know are the ones that actually inform the media and we are asking

that the media please leave his family alone. Steven will now need

to recuperate when he gets home and will need time to himself to make a

full recovery. Can you explain what exactly happened? There are two very

contradictory stories. The party will be holding a full and

thorough investigation into what happened. I, myself, was not in the

room at the moment that it happened, I walked into the room as it was

happening, so I cannot comment fully and I do not wish to at this stage.

As I say, the party will hold a full and thorough investigation, as we

always do in these situations. What was his account to you? To be

honest, we have not talked about that, we were more concerned about

Steven 's help. It was very worrying yesterday, a stressful occurrence to

see one of your colleagues lying on the floor surrounded by doctors and

nurses, wearing a neck brace, bound up with machines attached to him. We

were very concerned. Will he stand for leader still? It is way too

early for us to even consider that now in the circumstances. He has

reached out the hand of friendship to Mike. How has he done that? I

believe by e-mail. Has Michael Kum responded? I don't know. I think

only people who were in the room should be commenting on what

happened in the room, we do not want second or third hand accounts of

what happened being relayed and it is inappropriate for people to

comment about things that have happened when we did not know what

was going to be happening to Steven Woolfe health-wise. It was, at one

stage, touch and go. Are you staying here? No, I will be going home to my

family, I have a very busy schedule next week. Nigel has now gone back

as well. What do you think this has done to the reputation of the party?

We will have to wait and see but as we have discovered many times with

Ukip, we are a bit Teflon aren't we, things get thrown at us and it seems

to bounce off. We will wait and see. You throw things at yourselves leg

we often do, don't read. But I cannot comment, I was not in the

room at the time. It was an MEP meeting. You say staying at hospital

is precautionary, is there any concern about his health? As far as

I know, no. What did the e-mail say? He was reaching out the hand of

friendship to Mike. That is as far as I can tell you. How many MEPs

have been to visit Mr Woolfe? I don't, to honest. Did he apologise

in the e-mail? I cannot comment. When will he be discharged? They are

saying 48-hour spot observation and we will see where it goes from

there. Thank you very much. Have the police wanted to talk to Mr Woolfe?

There has been no police involvement at all and Mr Woolfe does not want

any police involvement. Thank you very much, I need to go and get a

flight, I apologise for dragging you all the way to Strasberg.

Goodbye. Nathan Gill saying there is no police involvement in what has

happened, Steven Woolfe does not want there to be any police

involvement. He said at one stage it was touch and go, and he said the

hand of friendship is being reached out because Steven Woolfe realised

things had gone too far. Let's go back to Neil Hamilton. Can you all

kiss and make up now? We have done it many times in the past and I'm

sure it can happen again. But I'm rather disturbed by what I have just

heard, because we have had an allegation publicly made that a

physical assault was made on one of our MEPs which might have been

fatal. How can the police not be involved when there is an allegation

of such gravity that has been made? It wasn't fatal, Mike Hookem says he

did not hit Steven Woolfe, and Steven Woolfe says he does not want

there to be any police involvement? He has made a serious allegation

publicly that Michael Kum hit him so hard, Nathan Gill has just said,

that it looked like it was touch and go -- might welcome. Can you imagine

anything more serious as an allegation than that? And

investigation ought to be conducted, and the best people, when an

allegation of criminality of that kind is made against somebody else,

should be investigated by the police. But if Steven Woolfe does

not want there to be any police involvement, shouldn't it just stay

there? If he is not prepared to talk to the police then they won't get

anywhere, but he has made this allegation publicly, it has of

course had a significant impact on Ukip's reputation publicly, and I

think we should now ask why he does not want to involve the police.

Should he still stand as leader? He was the favourite. He is perfectly

entitled to stand as leader and as I understand it, I'm not sure he has

actually put his nomination papers in as yet, last time he had

difficulty in that department, but of course he is perfectly entitled

to stand the leadership of the party. When you say that, it sounds

at odds with your previous sentence about your concerns about what has

gone on here. I'm not sure what you mean? You are talking about how

serious this is and how it should be investigated by the police, saying

he has made a serious allegation. Should somebody caught up in that

sort of situation be standing as party leader? He is entitled to

stand, party members will take a view on whether he would be elected.

Would you want to see him as party leader if he did stand? I didn't

support him when he put his hat in the ring last time but that was for

internal reasons, that he was standing on a platform of getting

rid of the National Executive Committee which is elected by party

members as a counterbalance to the leader. He wanted to concentrate

more powers in the hands of a leader who would not be accountable, which

seems to me to be fundamentally wrong in organisational terms. I

have no personal quarrel with Steven Woolfe, I know him well, I have

known him for years, perfectly friendly, cordial relationship, but

I did have political differences with him on the last leadership

election campaign. But party members will have the choice. Neil Hamilton,

thank you. Quickly, Simon Ashwood, what will happen with the leadership

campaign, is it clear what the time frame would be? We do not have a

timetable on a new election, I think they will want to do it quickly

because they will want stability back in the party. It will partly

depend on this inquiry and how long it takes and what the outcome is,

but I think we will have something sorted by Christmas, for the time

being at least. Thank you very much Simon Ashwood and Neil Hamilton.

Coming up, we will have the latest on Hurricane Matthew and Kylie

Minogue 's fiance talking about why the couple will not marry until

same-sex marriages are legalised in Australia. How can I be part of a

campaign like this and then go and get married? It is not right, it is

not fair, and it should be fair, it should all be there, and that start

at home, change starts at home. Stay with us for that interview a

little bit later. Now, a weather update with Matt and the latest in

particular on the hurricane. Yes, it is still off the coast of

Florida. Our weather, in contrast, completely quiet. The heat at the

start of the month has gone away. Let me show you this stunning

weather Watch is shot from Moray this morning. Little shards of Prost

on the grass, a lovely sunny start but the indication that the air has

got colder and more of us will wake up to Prost over the next few days.

Saying that, for most it is a completely different story, so some

grey skies as well not just today but through the weekend. Called by

day, not too bad by night, get the frost to pay for it.

Let's deal with what is happening out there at the moment, high

pressure in charge across Scandinavia keeping bees rain

bearing weather front add to the west at the moment, but it has

bought in huge amounts of cloud, Lang gives of cloud across much of

the UK. Fairly difficult to find the sunshine at the moment, a few

glimpses out to the west of Cornwall, Devon, western parts of

Wales through the West of -- the rest of the day. Pretty damp here

and there, particularly northward through the North Midlands,

Lancashire, the Isle of Man, eastern parts of Northern Ireland as well.

The manner in the sunshine but plenty of cloud at least until

lunchtime for the rest. There will be a few more breaks in the cloud

appearing in north-west England, the West of Northern Ireland, western

Wales through this afternoon. The wind is lighter than yesterday, it

might not feel too unpleasant but elsewhere a rather cool feeling day,

even if the wind has eased somewhat. Easterly weather dominates tonight,

areas of thick cloud, one or two showers in eastern England

especially, particularly towards East Anglia and the south-east

detente. Most will have a dry night and with some clear skies in the

north and west, this is away from the towns and cities, and

temperatures will drop and there could be Prost and Bob into the

morning. What is driving this settled weather? The high pressure

across Scandinavia, we are on the wrong side of it, dragging out from

the north-east, it is a fairly cool flow which continues into this

weekend but at least the wind gets lighter. A lovely day in store,

cloud at times across England and Wales, not as much as today, one or

two showers in East Anglia and the south-east, particularly the

Suffolk, Essex and Kent, some heavy ones in the afternoon. Lighter

winds, a bit more sunshine, so it will feel quite pleasant. Little

changes into Sunday, showers limited in the south-east corner, most fine,

dry, sunny spells as day chilly and frosty start. A quick update on

Hurricane Matthew, here it is to the east rain band swirling around,

the strongest and at the moment offshore so I think we will be

spared the worst of the wind across the Florida coast if that stays

offshore, but we will see a huge storm surge and torrential rain

storms and flooding from Central Florida to Georgia over the next 24

hours. Updates through the day on the News Channel.

Welcome to the programme if you've just joined us.

Ukip says Steven Woolfe won't be calling the police

after an altercation with a colleague left him

in hospital - instead he's admitted things went too far and has reached

out the hand of friendship to Mike Hookem

Stephen has this morning reached out the hand of friendship to Mr Hookem,

the mike. He has realised that things did go too far.

Doctors warn of the dangers of parents using alternative

medicines on children with autism, after a four-year-old boy

is hospitalised after being given bath salts in an attempt

We have an exclusive interview with Kylie Minogue's

fiance Joshua Sasse, who says they refuse to marry

until same sex-unions are legalised in Australia.

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

More than 300 people are known to have died in Haiti as a result

Ukip's Steven Woolfe has told reporters he was punched

by a colleague after a meeting of his party's MEPs.

The Ukip leadership hopeful was taken to hospital

after he collapsed at the European Parliament yesterday.

He told the Daily Mail that his colleague Mike Hookem came

A spokesman for Mr Hookem denied he had been involved in a fight.

Mr Woolfe's friend, the MEP Nathan Gill,

has just given a statement - he said that Steven Woolfe

is in good spirits and is trying to put the incident behind him.

Stephen has this morning reached out a hand of friendship to Mr Hookem,

to Mike. He has realised that things did go so far -- too far. He has

made moves forward for keeping us all as a band of friends. I also

want to point out the fact that there are people back in the UK who

are speculating about what has been happening both in the MEP meeting

and also here in the hospital with Stephen's health. Now, that does

need to stop. Let's talk to our Political Correspondent Alex Waller

boast who is in hospital. -- Alex Forsyth. Nathan Gill said Ukip are a

bit Teflon. Is this going to be good enough in terms of the credibility

of the party, are they going to move on from this without any further

investigation. This undoubtedly has caused further damage to Ukip's

reputation, the question of its credibility as a party, when you

hear about MEPs allegedly fighting in the European Parliament, one of

the party's major donors, Aaron Banks, said that the party is at

breaking point. Nathan Gill said today that they are Teflon. We know

that Ukip have been through similar things in the path that could have

caused reputational damage and yet they still won 4 million votes at

the election, it doesn't seem to have dented their reputation. You

get the sense they are trying to calm this down after the past 24, 48

hours, they have been tumultuous. We had the unexpected resignation of

the leader, Nigel Farage reappointed as the interim leader, Nathan Gill

saying we need to stop speculating about what has happened, Steven

Woolfe has reached out to the other MEP allegedly involved, Mike Hookem.

Steven Woolfe said he does not want the police involved. You get the

sense they are trying to calm this down and move on. News coming again

in the last few moments. The Nobel committee has announced that the

Colombian president, Hookem, has been awarded this

the Colombian president, Juan Manuel Santos, has been awarded the Nobel

Peace Prize for his effort to bring the Civil War in that country to an

end. The Colombian president, Juan Manuel Santos, announced as the

winner of this year's Nobel Peace Prize.

More than 300 people are known to have died in Haiti as a result

The most powerful storm to threaten the US Atlantic coast for 12 years

Around 2 million people living along the south-east coast of America have

The governor of Florida, Rick Scott, has declared a state of emergency as

the weather worsens. The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has

started reshuffling his cabinet, but critics have suggested he's

already failed in his promise to unite the parliamentary party.

One of Mr Corbyn's closest allies, Diane Abbott, has been promoted

to Shadow Home Secretary - a position she says she's

honoured to have. And the former civil liberties

campaigner Shami Chakrabarti, who was recently made a Labour peer

after her review into anti-Semitism in the party, joins the top team

as Shadow Attorney General. Doctors have warned of the dangers

of giving children complementary therapies, after a four-year-old boy

ended up in A He had been taking 12 different

holistic supplements - including vitamin D

and camel's milk - He developed a potentially fatal

condition, but made a full recovery. Writing in the British Medical

Journal, clinicians from St Bartholomew's Hospital

in London said it should be "routine practice" to ask whether

patients are taking any That's a summary of

the latest BBC News. Do get in touch with us

throughout the morning. If you text, you will be charged

at the standard network rate. I will be interviewing Howard Gayle

shortly, the first black Liverpool player on the pitch. He went out on

the pitch for the first time in the early 80s. I will be talking to him

about his life, his experience on and off the pitch, and also why he

turned down an MBE in the summer. Here's some sport now, and Hugh,

you have a very special guest Good morning, Joanne. We are taking

a look back at the Paralympics and talking about women's sport this

morning. It is actually women's sport week 2016, and we are lucky

enough to be joined by the five-time Paralympic gold medallist Hannah

Cockroft. Fantastic to have you with us. What has it been like in the

last few months for you, with Rio, the build-up, your fantastic

performance, when you came home, was it similar all very different to

London 2012? It has been very different. London was my first

Games, I had no idea what to expect, I just went with it. The build-up to

Rio, going for two new events, the training was a lot different,

getting out there, the preparations was a lot different. It's just been

really busy since I got back, to be honest. I dust haven't really

stopped, but it has been great. It is women's sport week. How important

is it for you, do you feel, to have this in the calendar and that we

discuss issues around women's sport? A think it's really important. You

know, the quality has got a lot better but it has still got a long

way to go. Especially as a disabled woman, we are kind of bottom of the

roster right now. We need to put ourselves out there, say, we are

still training hard, we're still here, where not just going to

disappear for four years and come back in 2020. That is a really

important message, to get more people involved. You took part in

our BBC body talk session in Liverpool yesterday. What was it

like meeting of athletes and young girls discussing issues around

positivity of the female form? It was really interesting, for me, just

to hear that maybe you don't always talk about the issues that you have

with your soul. To go there and hear that maybe other women's have the

same problems, the same thoughts and ideas -- the issues you have with

yourself. It means if we can talk one-on-one about it, it needs to be

said to all women and to be told that actually, whoever you are, you

are OK with that. We heard this week from Sarah Storey and Laura Kenny

talking about inequalities in their sports. You mentioned it there. What

do you feel can be done to bring women's sport level with men's sport

from your perspective? I think right now it's about raising participation

numbers. If we're still seen as any of our sport is being seen as not

many people competing in that, then they are not really going to get the

crowds or the sponsorship. So many things are tied in with it. We

really need to get it out there and, for me, make wheelchair racing more

accessible for women across the country. Thank you very much for

joining us. If you want to get involved in women's sports week,

there is more coverage on TV, radio and online. Look up the hashtag BBC

body talk as well. Despite most people thinking

John Barnes was Liverpool's first black footballer,

it was Howard Gayle who was actually When the young Liverpudlian took

to the pitch in his dream job, he experienced extreme racism

from both players and fans. It's something that led Howard

to become a prominent anti-racism Earlier this year he was offered

an MBE for his work, but turned it down immediately,

saying it went against his values. I'm very pleased to say that Howard

is with us. Well, now Howard has a book out

about his life and he's with us Thank you very much for coming in

and talking to us. When you first went out onto the pitch in a red

shirt for the full in 1980, did you see your race is a big deal as part

of that? Well, no, not really, as I say, I was able to deliver a

childhood dream. I used to go to bed most nights dreaming about playing

for a club like Liverpool, which I supported. And I never thought that

it would be, in my lifetime, I never thought that it would happen to me.

And when it did, the game, as I say, it was a moment which I was ever so

proud of, as an achievement for, well, my own well-being, but I never

really looked at the point of race on the being the first black player.

It was as I got closer to the first team that the media started to take

attention to the achievement that I was about to make. And back then, in

the late 70s, early 80s, again, race was starting to play a major part in

sport, and people were starting to focus a lot more on it. So when it

was an issue for others, and obviously it eventually became an

issue for you. How did that change? Did it change your perception of

what you were doing, not just being able to get on with the game of

football, there was another dimension? No, not really, again, I

always said you had to play with the cards you've been dealt. Back in the

60s and 70s, racist chance on the terraces were read, and think. It

happened most weeks. -- racist chants on the terraces were a common

thing. I never see much racism and the Liverpool fans, because they

recognise that I've been a supporter and followed the club both home and

away since I was a boy. Most of them knew me, anyway. When I got to play

football and to play for Liverpool and also for other clubs, I played

in the European semifinal in Munich where 60,000 Germans, it was a

crescendo of monkey chance as soon as I got near the pitch. For me,

something like that was something that inspired me. And I've always

had a thought process and a mentality that the racists would

never, ever win. The only way to silence them would be to play well,

to do well, and to contribute to my team. That takes huge internal

strength in every way, mental strength, to go out and see that as

something that would inspire you. Yeah, well, I'm fortunate that I've

got a really good family around me for most of my life. And I've had

two brothers and a sister who's been really supportive of me. I tried to

keep a lot of the racism growing up in school from my parents because I

knew that it would have been upsetting to my mother, and my

father was a man of discipline, a disciplinarian, old school, his

answer would have been, well, stay in, and that would have meant that I

wouldn't have been able to play football. I tried to keep as much of

it from my parents as I could. But obviously again it was playing a

major role in everyday life, some of the abuse and the things that I had

to endure. But also again, some of the things that I had to do to stop

it. They were things that I wasn't comfortable with, but as I say,

there was no complaints system then, there was nobody you could go to,

whereas nowadays obviously racism is a criminal offence.

You have been instrumental in helping to change attitudes, working

to educate people, and for the work that you have done you were offered

an MBE. You said no, why? As the terminology is, it is a member of

the British Empire, and obviously my ancestors were born out of Africa

and the West Indies, and I'm well aware of the history of what the

Empire did and over 100 million Africans never made the

transatlantic journey, they were thrown into the sea, and some of the

appalling things that happen to my ancestors, it would have been kind

of a kick in the teeth to the memory of those Africans. So you had no

qualms in saying no, an instant reaction? No, it was a decision made

by me, I was possibly always aware, because of the work that I did, that

there may be a time when I was going to be offered an award like this,

and I made a conscious decision in my own mind, if I did, that the

answer was going to be a refusal. This was my decision. Other people

have chosen to accept the MBE, the CBE, the OBE, that is their

decision, but mine on reflection was that I could not accept it. Do you

think it is time for the system to be changed? I think if it wants to

include black people then, again, my decision has invoked debate amongst

all quarters, I have had a lot of positive response on my decision

from all quarters of the world and from all different races as well.

Maybe it is something that could be looked at in the future, but I think

now again it has come too late for me, and I'm recognised by the work

that I do within football and within my own community. That is enough for

me. Sydney on e-mail, lots of respect for Howard Gayle for turning

down the MBE, it is called having principles and integrity. Caroline

on e-mail, it has puzzled me why the term Empire has not been replaced, I

have thought of writing to Olympic medallist and suggesting that they

insist it be changed to Commonwealth, for example.

Are they typical of the reactions? Yes, and, as I say, other people

have different views to those tweets or e-mails, but the vast majority

have agreed with the statement and baby for the future the debate

should be, the decision on whether you are eligible for some sort of

award should come from the field which you work in rather than the

community, and I have had a number of accolades and thanks given from

the people within Liverpool and around the country where I have done

my work for Show Racism The Red Card and Kick It Out. Thank you so much

for coming in. 61 Minutes In Munich: The Story

of Liverpool's First Black Still to come: More than 800,000

people in the UK are thought to have a condition which makes them pull

out of their own hair. We speak to one clinic which tells us the NHS is

not taking it seriously, and a woman who has suffered with it since she

was ten. A four-year-old boy ended up

in hospital after he was given a variety of so-called alternative

medicines, including bath salts, It sounds like something

from Victorian times, doesn't it? The boy made a full recovery,

but the case has led doctors to warn of the dangers of giving children

complementary therapies. They're concerned about the number

of people turning to alternative therapies try to cure

conditions like autism. They warn that even so-called

natural substances can cause death. We can get into this a bit more

now with Matt Davis, who blogs about having

a child with autism. who's the Head of Policy

at the National Autistic Society, and Emma Dalmayne, who is autistic

herself and investigates Thank you all for joining us. Sarah,

have you heard anything like this before? This case was an awful case,

obviously. The parents in this case were looking for help and went to a

particular therapist who recommended these supplements, and what is

really important which we think at the National Autistic Society is the

parents need to come to us at our website and really find out what it

is that can help their children and make sure they get the right advice

and support, and they should not be taking supplements or medicines

without advice from medical professionals. Can supplement ever

help anyone with autism? No, they can't. We all take some supplements,

lots of people take vitamins and supplements, but in this case the

child was taking quite a lot of calcium, which would be harmful to

anyone, and clearly was not helpful for this child's autism, so it is

really, really important that parents talk to medical

professionals and get that advice as soon as possible and as early as

possible so that they don't give their children things that can be

harmful to them and simply won't make any difference and will not

work. Autism is not a disease, it cannot be cured, and so parents, in

the run-up to diagnosis and post diagnosis, they can feel quite

desperate because very few people really know about autism, until they

have a family member who is on the autism spectrum, and they can be

desperately looking for things that can help. You have got an autistic

son, Isaac. What was it like for you when you had the diagnosis? Were you

ever tempted by alternative therapies? Never, whatsoever. This

is a devastating, upsetting case. It was a year between noticing a

typical behaviours with Isaac and diagnosis, and when you get

diagnosed there is really a sense of relief, that the symptoms he was

shivering actually have a cause and description. A But there is a sense

of relief, there is obviously a nervousness and one in 100 people

have autism so statistically you will not know that many people so

you need the support and you need that because there is a lack of

predictability about the future, but there is lots of intervention you

can access it be have the right support, and autism is something to

live with, not against. Do you understand the vulnerability that

Sarah was describing that people feel when they are caught up in

something they don't understand and want to fix it? I do, it is a

difficult situation because just the smallest level of education that one

would hope a paediatrician would give would rule out these quack

therapies immediately. These people prey on confused, vulnerable

parents. If you have got absolutely no support around you and you cannot

access systems, then maybe people would turn to them. But they are

dangerous and they have no benefit whatsoever. Emma, you are autistic

and you do your own undercover investigations into illegal autism

therapies. What was it that first alerted you to what was happening? I

opened a Facebook support group for autistic adults and parents of

autistic children and that is how I found out about groups who give

their children things like chlorine dioxide bleached... Lets not talk

about specifics because those organisations are not here to defend

themselves, but we can talk more generally about the issues you

became aware of? Parents are using unregulated and scientifically

proved treatment to cure children of autism, which cannot be cured

because it is a neurological difference, it will not go away.

Obviously people out there do think something like this will help. There

are, yes, and it needs to be made illegal to do this to your child. It

should not be allowed. Sarah, what do you think about making it

illegal? What was useful about the report that came out from the BMJ

was medical professionals recommending that what needs to

happen is that those professionals in contact with families of children

with autism are able to give them the right information as soon as

possible to prevent this happening. It is important that people can get

the right advice. We did a survey a couple of years ago that showed just

28% of families said they got good advice and support post diagnosis so

there is a massive gap between people getting diagnosed and knowing

what they should be doing next. The thing is, these parents are not

going to take the advice because they believe that autism needs to be

cured, so they are taking these alternative routes. This little boy

was given diet pills and camel's milk and so many other unregulated

product he should not have been on because his parents wanted to cure

his autism. It is child abuse, it needs to be stopped. One of the

things in the report that came out was a high level of calcium

supplements, and lots of people take supplements for lots of different

types of things, and it seems like they would be benign and not

harmful, but the level of calcium he was given was really harmful. There

is something about alternative medicine and some of these types of

things that parents wouldn't think of as actually being able to harm

their child, and I think in the case report... Sorry to interrupt, but

what isn't being told is this child was vomiting, he was very sick for

three weeks, he had kidney failure for three weeks and he was watched

like that and his mother did not take into the doctors. Are told that

it is the autism leaving so to keep it up because the more sick they

get, the more the autism is leaving, and that is what she did, and that

is what needs to be looked at. These parents are not educated enough.

That is exactly the problem and I think the legal argument might be a

red herring in the whole thing. The education is absolutely critical.

Organisations like NAS are brilliant with this. They are great but they

need to back me up for legislation. You obviously feel strongly about

this. Very as an autistic person watching them being experimented on.

Do you come across parents when you are blogging who have the

perspective that supplements might help? The odd one. The vast majority

support my view. Can you engage in a discussion? It often becomes

trolling, Twitter nonsense, if you are not careful. My wife is a strong

voice within the autism community and we should it down immediately

and say there is no substance whatsoever, it is not a condition to

be cured, they are dangerous things, but I think it is just about

education, right from the point of diagnosis, through all the joined up

services within education, people need that foundation because no-one

of any respect and repute would recommend them. Elisabeth on

Facebook has got in touch to say, when my son was diagnosed with

autism I asked the paediatrician about alternative therapies and

medicine and she gave me the best advice ever which was that there are

people out there happy to take money from vulnerable families trying to

help their children. Eight years on I can see this is sadly true. That

is the thing, parents presumably do it because they think it is the

right thing, they do not want to harm their children? I think so. I

would have thought so too, but the minute you see your child getting

sick, you take them to the doctors! So many cases I am seeing. From my

perspective as a parent, I have been lucky to have a strong wife, we

lived in an area where they champion Isaac. It is not easy to access the

services, we are in Brent... I have five children, several on the

spectrum. I understand what you are saying, you are and informed,

educated person, but some parents are desperate. But some parents see

their child's developing completely atypically, they might be one parent

families, they might have family and friends who normalise the behaviour

or don't understand autism, and like anything it is not that it is not

cancer or any other treatment, you can be thrown into utter chaos in

your life and people are preying on you, and it is a situation... I am

more worried about the children. The children are right at the heart of

it. The child is literally given the treatment. The best way to prevent

that is making sure the parents understand it is not the way and

alongside that we need to make sure the services are in place. That is

what I am saying. Thank you very much, Sarah, Matt and Emma, thank

you very much. Still to come, Kylie Minogue's

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married until same-sex unions are legalised in Australia. Also, the

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at the European The Ukip leadership hopeful has told

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that his colleague Mike Hookem came A spokesman for Mr Hookem denied

he had been involved in a fight. Mr Woolfe's friend,

the MEP Nathan Gill, He said that Steven Woolfe

is in good spirits, and is trying He has realised that things did go

too far in the MEP meeting. So he has made moves forward for keeping

us all as a band of friends. And I also want the point out the fact

that there are people back in the UK who are speculating about what has

been happening, both in the MEP meeting, and also here in the

hospital with Stephen's health. Now, that does need to stop. Nathan Gill.

The Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos has won

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The deal failed when Colombians narrowly rejected the deal

Hurricane Matthew, the most powerful storm to threaten the US

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Officials in Haiti say more than 300 people there have been killed.

And in the US, around 2 million people living along the south-east

coast have been urged to move inland.

Rick Scott, the Governor of Florida, has declared a State of Emergency

The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has started reshuffling his cabinet,

but critics have suggested he's already failed in his promise

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Diane Abbott, has been promoted to Shadow Home Secretary -

a position she says she's honoured to have.

And the former civil liberties campaigner Shami Chakrabarti,

who was recently made a Labour peer after her review into anti-Semitism

in the party, joins the top team as Shadow Attorney General.

Doctors have warned of the dangers of giving children complementary

therapies, after a four-year-old boy ended up in A

He had been taking 12 different holistic supplements -

including vitamin D and camel's milk -

He developed a potentially fatal condition, but made a full recovery.

Writing in the British Medical Journal, clinicians

from St Bartholomew's Hospital in London said it should be "routine

practice" to ask whether patients are taking any

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Good morning. England have lost three wickets after they won back

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Bangladesh. Jason Roy will be frustrated, he fell for 41. Jonny

Bairstow out for a duck as well. England now 68-3 in the 14th over in

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be back with more on BBC news throughout the day. Thank you, Hugh.

More than 800,000 people in the UK are thought to have a condition

which makes them pull out their own hair.

It's known as trichotillomania, and it is a compulsive anxiety disorder.

People who suffer from it say pulling out their hair

gives them a fleeting but intense sense of release,

but it can leave you almost completely bald.

Reality star Sam Faiers and US actress Olivia Munn are among

those who say they've pulled out their hair

But some sufferers and hair loss clinics say the condition is not

being taken seriously enough by the NHS.

Lucinda Ellery is a hair loss consultant with concerns about how

Charlotte Suggett started pulling out her hair when she was 10.

And Neomie Da Costa runs Trichotillomania Support -

a group which provides therapy for sufferers.

I mean, obviously it is not a laughing matter, it is just not a

word that we are familiar with because it is not something people

know much about. The definition is an irresistible urge to pull out

your hair. To gain a sense of calm, if you like, sometimes in a medic to

state. According to Professor John Grant, there are 100 million people

worldwide who have to manage this situation -- sometimes in a

meditative state. Education is very important, because I've been doing

it for such a long time, girls back in the date would go to the doctors

and have never heard of it, let alone be able to say it was ballot.

Presumably they would have thought they would be only person who had

it. -- sell spell it or say it. There was nothing on the internet

for a long, long time. Charlie, you started pulling your hair out when

you were ten. Were you doing it consciously? Do you remember when

you started and why? I was never able to pinpoint exactly when, a lot

of it was denial, I wasn't really aware of it. When I was that age, I

lost my dad to cancer, I think that triggered it. It was overwhelming,

you've got a lot of other things to deal with. I noticed that the bits

but chose not to pay attention to it, not to deal with it. Was at an

absent-minded think? Did it hurt? That's the thing, it does hurt a

bit, but it is a release, it is a comfort, it feels good to pull it

out, that is the problem. It is like a release that makes you feel

better. I do it more if I'm stressed. If I get anxious thought

nowadays, Mike hand goes up to my head, I will play, you seek a hat

which feels like a good one, it sounds very old, but... You're

running your hands through parts of your hair, and you miss out little

bits, you find a section that you know will feel good to pull out. You

might get a good route, maybe. And it's just a comfort thing, it makes

you feel better about the situation to deal with the time. And obviously

you end up with bald patches. How many bald patches... It varies,

unfortunately. When I was younger I used to have a couple. Usually

around the crown. They used to be separate, but when I first moved to

London about six years ago, I think you know, I was going through a

break-up, new city, new worries, new things to deal with. And those

different patches merged into one, pretty much. That is a picture of

you, Charlie. So you've got a hair we've now? Not so much a weave, it

is a system implies, it helps put a barricade on between the patches. It

helps give the hair a chance to grow, which it hasn't had for a long

time. You're ripping your hair out. So it is just a system, like a mesh.

And, you know, I remember the first time I had it on, I called my mum in

tears, I said, I've got a centre parting for the first time, because

I'd always had a side parting. Glorified Como no -- glorified Como

over, you learn ways to cover it up. Even then, when you are covering it

up, you are presumably conscious of it and conscious of people around

you being conscious of it. Did you have to explain? If you get a gust

of wind blowing against the way your hair is style, you are having to

worry about it. Some people... My way of dealing with it is the

volunteer the information, almost beat them to the punch, I've got

this, I noticed you looking at my hair. I'd rather be open about it

from the beginning. You do see some people look at you, like, OK, right,

you're trying to grasp exactly what you're telling them. That you do to

yourself, out of choice. Part of the healing is getting rid of the shame,

humiliation and embarrassment that you carry around with you the

decades. Very damaging to your psyche. If you have a secret that

you don't want to be discovered, it is not a very good frequency to walk

around with. It is much, much better, if you can be like Charlie,

where you can sort of chat to your friends, it is so good for the girls

to be able to do that and share, it is very important, and it does help

towards you coping with it, because there is no known cure anywhere at

all that we know of as yet. ? When you say no known cure, would there

be therapy? The same as alcoholism, it would be therapy, but there are

no polls or patience. You have to manage it. -- pills or potions. You

have to try and live a normal life in extreme circumstances. You

managed a support group, how many girls are coming to you? We are

worldwide, not just in the UK. But basically what we do is, there are

many sites for people with trigger the mania. A lot of them are

encouraging people to live with the condition and accept the condition,

to accept polling. Our ethos is basically that we need to accept the

condition and accept that it is chronic. As Lucinda said, it is like

alcoholism in the sense, I have been over 13 years pull free, but I'm not

short, I'm in a recovery. I am aware of the fact that there is a strike

possibility that I could pull again. -- a slight possibility. I know the

steps that I need to take should I have any edges at all. What are

those steps? If you are an alcoholic, you can steer clear of

drink, but you've always got your hair. Were absolutely right, that is

the key point. The main step would be to keep your hands and mind

occupied. The biggest trigger for TTM is boredom. If we make sure that

we don't get bored, which is kind of difficult. What you do is you

basically take how the brain works, the human brain works, so that if

there is a period of quiet you are looking for something to do, so that

you improve your life, you increase functionality. If you've got a

wonderful house, you're still don't want better. When you describe it

like that -- you're still going to want something better. It is like

any habit, repetitive behaviour that you just need to distract yourself.

It is a message from your brain that you are in discomfort. It is in the

nervous system, actually. Please under, I know you are concerned that

the NHS is not taking this seriously -- Lucinda. What are you basing this

on Brazil if you try and get NHS help it is very, very difficult.

Girls give up, which is very sad. It is a clinical condition. It is

worldwide recognised as such. Are people going and trying to get help

and being turned away by their GP because they don't understand what's

going on? You probably get CBT, if you're lucky. Cognitive behavioural

therapy. The approach is definitely through emotional self and

psychological soph, it is full of remissions and relapses. The idea

that you have, as you say, you are 13 years in remission, this is

wonderful, that is good to a lot of people, she can actually say, I am

pull free for 13 years. It is a massive coup to do something like

that. But there isn't enough out there. There is not education in the

medical profession, there isn't very much help. CBT is as much as you can

get if you're lucky. If you had something for ten or 15 years, you

get six or eight sessions with somebody who perhaps is going to be

different each time you go. Often the girls complain that they seem to

be the ones educating the medical profession about TTM. Education is

really what we need, because it helps. James on e-mail says, I

started pulling my hair out in my 30s, although I'm right-handed I

always use my left hand and I created a bald patch. The only way I

found was to have my hair cut extremely short. What has worked for

you, Charlie? Wearing hats indoors if I find myself pulling. Easy in my

hands, like you said, just trying to find ways. -- making my hands busy.

Even the smallest thing is a massive stress, finding things to do with

your hands. What about help? Have you had help from the NHS? I did

try, I applied to try and get some funding from the NHS through

Lucinda, but the paperwork alone was quite stressful. I'm coming to the

end of some CBT sessions at the moment through the NHS, which was

brilliant. Obviously, I got the 12 sessions, although it takes a while

to get comfortable with the person, you start to really open up to them,

and obviously then it comes to an end and you have to start again with

someone else. It's good, I'm definitely learning things, they've

helped in that way, but it took well, there is long waiting list. We

were talking about if you've got something and you don't know anyone

else around you who's got it, if somebody at home is watching and

feeling like they are the only one, they are listening to you and that