14/10/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello it's Friday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling.

It's the army scandal that won't go away.

Deepcut, the barracks where four young soldiers died from gunshots.

Today, a judge decides whether a new inquest should be held

into the death of one of them, Private Sean Benton,

who was found with five bullet wounds to his chest.

The original inquest said it was suicide.

We talk to one someone who was at Deepcut

with Sean and will bring you the decision when it breaks.

Also, if your child will eat only sweetcorn, or bananas,

Scientists have found some kids are just born fussy eaters.

We will be discussing it with food writer Annabel Karmel and a mum

whose daughter would only eat beige food.

And, you fall overboard in shark-infested

seas, your boat sails away over the horizon, what do you do?

We've got an interview with the man who had to contend with sharks

and dive-bombing birds as he trod water for a day

and a night in the Indian Ocean before being rescued.

I mean, the horror of that moment... But I never really felt fear. I

thought this was where it ends. It was shock, disbelief.

Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

Also coming up, hospital patients and visitors

are being hit in the pocket after one in three hospital trusts

in England increased their car parking charges in the last year.

New figures reveal some are now charging as much

We will be talking to a cancer patient who says he constantly has

to pay to attend appointments, and also to someone who says

And what about whether some kids are born fussy eaters?

Usual ways of getting in touch - hashtag #victorialive.

Texts will cost the standard network rate.

A baby has died and a child is seriously injured

Police in Essex say the surviving child was left

An adult was slightly hurt in the attack.

Well our correspondent Helena Lee is here to tell me more.

We know this attack happened just after 3pm in Essex. The ambulance

were called to this a -- called to this address. All three

people were taken to hospital, where we know that the baby boy died and

the other child we're being told is being treated for serious injuries

which are being described as life changing, and the mother has got

mine injuries. Police were at the scene and there is a chord and up.

We don't know the breed of the dog yet at this stage and we'll so don't

know whether it was a family pet, but Essex Police say it is clearly a

very difficult time for the family and they are being supported by

specially trained officers at the moment. Thank you.

Annita is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

MPs have attacked the Government's handling of rail franchises,

saying passengers have been let down badly.

The Transport Select Committee is urging ministers to "get

And in a report it highlights what it calls the "woeful"

experience of Southern commuters, who've suffered

Here's our transport correspondent, Richard Westcott.

Rail passengers are being let down and the Government

must do more to help, according to this new report.

Passengers are not being given proper information about journeys

and how to link up different journeys to get

If passengers have a number of journeys to make

Too many people are in overcrowded carriages and nothing

There are calls for better ways of measuring late

But the MPs saved their harshest comments for the way the Government

has handled the chaos on Southern Rail, which runs

services between the south coast and London.

Passengers have endured months of strikes, cancellations,

broken-down trains and staff shortages, making it the most

The report says the Government must get a grip on the situation

and should be prepared to either change the company's contract

Ministers say that wouldn't solve the problem, it

The next Southern strike is due next week and there is little sign

An investigation's started at London Zoo into how a 29 stone

Kumbuka was on the loose for nearly two hours

News of the great escape is all over this morning's tabloids.

18-year-old Kumbuka got out of his den and into an area only

He stayed there until a vet was called in to tranquilise him.

But the zoo also asked the police to assist.

This footage was filmed by an eyewitness.

Before anyone could leave, visitors told how they were locked in a cafe

We were stuck in the cafe and then we were escorted

out of there by police after we were told to get

And then we were taken into the pavilion but we're

The zoo says the public was never at risk.

It was a safe and secure keeper area, so at no

time did he actually get out into the zoo.

And I am happy to report that Kumbuka is back

in his den and interacting happily with his family.

This is Kumbuka when he's not trying to make a run for it.

He has been living in London Zoo for three years.

It's a far cry from his natural habitat, a tropical

But his species is critically endangered.

The zoo has not confirmed how this silverback heavyweight managed

It will reopen to the public today, although the Gorilla Kingdom remains

cordoned off and a full investigation is now under way.

The former chief of the defence staff, Lord Bramall,

says the Metropolitan Police have apologised to him for the way

it handled allegations of child sexual abuse.

The retired Field Marshal was told in January that no

action would be taken, ten months after officers

Scotland Yard had previously insisted it had nothing

The SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon has been defending her decision

to revive proposals for Scottish independence.

She's confirmed that a Bill for a Referendum will be published

The Scottish First Minister said Brexit meant that people in Scotland

needed the opportunity to their their vote.

needed the opportunity to have their vote.

I think the UK right now is potentially about to take a step off

the edge of a cliff in coming out of the single market and I don't want

to happen to Scotland. I actually don't want that to happen to the UK.

But I am the First Minister for Scotland and Theresa May is the

Prime Minister of the UK and I respect that and we have to work

well together. That's what I'm prepared to do. What we heard from

her last week was a pretty strong business or Scotland's voice, and

that is not acceptable to me. Researchers say they believe that

a child's fussy eating is as much down to genetic influences

as poor parenting. Scientists in London compared nearly

2,000 sets of identical and non-identical twins and found

that their likes and Here's more from our health and

science reporter, James Gallagher. It is tea-time in

the Parnham household. Alice is only two, but she already

knows what she likes. She wolfs down sweet potato, peas

and sweetcorn, and she loves her Foods Alice is less keen

on are meat, she doesn't really like chicken or bits of beef

in a stew. A nightly battle over greens

is hugely frustrating for parents. But a study on twins at UCL shows

half of a child's willingness to eat or even try new foods

is hard-wired into their DNA. It's because your child is showing

an innate trait and you just have to work with your child

and not against your child. Parents often take the blame

for a fussy child, so Alice's mum I think it make parents feel a bit

better that it's not Because obviously you try your

hardest to make your children eat things and sometimes they just

don't like it. So if you want your kids to try more

food, the advice is to start early, keep trying, but never force a child

to eat something they don't want to. Campaigners are warning that

hundreds of pharmacies in England will have to close if the Government

goes ahead with steep A body representing the pharmacy

industry said the plan - which is expected within weeks -

would cause chaos. The Department of Health said no

final decision had been taken. Thousands of mourners in Thailand

are taking part in a ceremony today to honour their king,

who died yesterday aged 88. A late night vigil was held

in Bangkok, and thousands of people have been lining the streets

to pay their respects. The king's body will be

taken to the city's The official mourning

will last a year. King Bhumibol Adulyadej

was the world's In the US presidential race,

the Republican candidate, Donald Trump, has said the women

accusing him of sexual misconduct are horrible liars

and in cahoots with media outlets who support his rival

Hillary Clinton. These fishes claims about me of

inappropriate conduct with women are totally and absolutely false. --

these vicious claims. Meanwhile, the First

Lady, Michelle Obama, in a speech to students

in New Hampshire. This was a powerful individual

speaking freely and openly about sexually predatory behaviour, and

actually bragging about kissing and groping women, using language so

obscene that many of us were worried about our children hearing it when

we turned on the TV. An international deal to tackle

climate change is expected It will involve phasing out

the use of gases known as hydrofluorocarbons,

which are found in fridges, Representatives from nearly 200

counties have been meeting The comic book character

Wonder Woman is to be named as a new honorary ambassador

for the United Nations. The heroine will be used to promote

messages about women's empowerment The UK Women's Equality Party said

it was fittingly comic that the UN could not think of a single human

woman who could take on the role. That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 9:30am. Later in the programme, we're going

to be talking about kids who are fussy eaters. Scientists say that

genes play a big role and some kids are just born that way. Do you agree

or do you think it's just down to parenting? We would love to know

what you think if you had a particularly fussy that has a child.

Texts will cost the standard network rate.

Let's get some sport now with Jessica.

We're hearing about concussion this morning,

it's the most common injury in professional rugby.

And the BBC has been given access to new video technology which helps

What is it? Yes, concussion is a massive issue and the top rugby

union league in England, the premiership, has become the first in

the world to introduce video technology to address a problem.

Staff members of a team, known as spotters, said pitch side during the

match and have access to an instant pitch side review system, where they

look out for potential head injuries. They then mark the footage

for doctors to take a closer look. They can rewind a clip of a

collision or play it in slow motion, which allows them to make an

immediate decision whether a player needs further attention. Before,

decisions could be delayed if collisions were missed, which is of

course very dangerous for the players. What can the effects of

concussion beads, long-term? Concussion is something that can end

a player's career. Two have already retired this season and the number

of recorded concussions has a ready tripled in the past five seasons. It

was the start of three really dark months of my life. For the first few

days I couldn't sleep, even though I had the overwhelming need to sleep

and I wanted to sleep. I felt like a zombie but I just couldn't quite get

to sleep. That was the first few days, really, really bad. Then I was

really sensitive to light and noise and rarely angry order time, really

agitated around my kids, which is totally not normal for me. Canadian

international Jamie Cudmore there, who has played for one of Europe's

top clubs in Clermont Auvergne and he was describing just how badly

concussion can affect you. Between 1995 and 2002 four young

soldiers died of gunshot wounds The first of them was Private

Sean Benton. He was found with five gunshot

wounds to his chest. This morning his family will find

out at the High Court whether they will be

granted a fresh inquest into his death, which at the time

was recorded as suicide. I'll be speaking to Sean's friend

and his family's lawyer in a moment, but first here's a round-up

of developments so far. Over the years, thousands

of army recruits have gone through the Deepcut Barracks

in Surrey for their Between 1995 and 2002,

four young army recruits died from gunshot wounds in unexplained

circumstances at Deepcut . They were 20-year-old Sean Benton,

18-year-old Cheryl James, 17-year-old Geoff Gray and another

17-year-old, James Collinson. The deaths came amid claims

of widespread abuse The army treated all of the deaths

and suicides, but each The families pushed to have fresh

inquests into their deaths. In February this year,

there was a second inquest It concluded she took her own life,

but acknowledged there was a highly There were also serious failings

in the care and A recent ruling means there may be

a fresh inquest into the death Well, we'll find out in a matter

of hours whether that The solicitor for Sean Benton's

family, Emma Norton, Thank you very much for joining us.

Tell as a bit more about exactly why the family want a second inquest and

what the evidence that has emerged has shown?

The circumstances into the death of Sean Benton were never properly

investigated. Sean died of five gunshot wounds to the chest early

one morning by one of the rear gate said Deepcut barracks. It was a

death on military property, it is investigated by the military police.

The civilian police did not investigate at that time. Forensic

tests were not conducted and the coroner did not conduct a proper

inquest, either. For all of these reasons, the family has always been

deeply unsatisfied that they have never been able to be satisfied as

to how he came by his death. The reason the second inquest might

be granted is that Sean's mother used human rights legislation to get

evidence from Surrey Police given to the family. What is that evidence,

what does it show? We are not able to reveal the full details but

evidence today until the matter is heard in the High Court, but I will

say that it involves forensic evidence, new witness evidence, lots

of evidence that Sean was the victim of prolonged serious physical and

psychological bullying, and that needs to come out and be

investigated by a coroner at a new inquest. Why do you think that has

not come out previously? The coroner at the first inquest,

which lasted for less than two I was, heard from a fraction of the

witnesses it should have heard from, did not hear all the medical

evidence that it should have, there were no forensic or ballistic tests.

The true circumstances of Sean's death have never been fully

investigated. What has the official explanation

been for the fact that he had five bullet wounds to the chest, and

whether they could be self-inflicted? Agog at the original

inquest the coroner heard evidence that Sean turned the gun on himself,

and that is what led to five bullet wounds being found in his chest.

Have you spoken to ballistics experts on whether that is possible

that somebody could conflict that sort of wound on themselves? Not

yet, we have only had I done my gripe sisters of the forensics and

ballistic work which has been taken very recently following Linda

Benton's application under the Human Rights Act. Whether we instruct for

further ballistic tests to be taken is dependent on whether a fresh

inquest is driven today. And we can also speak

to Stewart Thompson, who was at the Deepcut barracks

when Sean was there Thank you very much for joining us.

As I mentioned, you were there at the same time as Sean, tell as a bit

about Sean. When you first knew him, what was he like? Sean was a great

soldier. He was like everybody else. We will all the same, we all went

through Pirbright together. We all had different strengths and

weaknesses. But when I arrived at the same time as Sean at the end of

November 94, we changed, progressively, from recruits into

soldiers. Like I say, everybody had strengths and weaknesses. Sean

changed a lot over that period. I watched him change, his character

and personality changed over the next six months. Eventually that

culminated in his death, which is why we are here today discussing the

fresh inquest. Describe the changes in him that you saw?

His character became more withdrawn, depressed, for quiet -- more quiet

and unpredictable. He was involved in a number of reported incidents of

islands. Whether he was responsible, I don't know. -- reported incidents

of violence. He suffered from character withdrawal, he reported

incidences of bullying. It is difficult to discuss even now after

all this time. A long time has passed, and I remember him changing

as a person. When you say he reported incidences of bullying, did

he talk directly to you? Obviously you can't name anybody or point the

finger in any direction, but generally, what with the allegations

made? Yeah, he didn't go into a great detail with me, personally.

But I did speak to him maybe a month before he died, and he mentioned

that he was being targeted and some of the instructors were on his back

all the time, giving him grief. Even a month before he died he was facing

a number of military investigations for his behaviour. So he had a lot

of problems. But, yeah, he did specifically name some people to me,

but like you say I can't discuss those names now. Basically. How did

everybody react when it emerged that he had died, and the nature of the

injuries and the fact that it was subsequently described as a suicide?

Yeah, it was shocking, really. I know he was struggling, he was

having problems. Lots people do, you know? Lots of people have problems

in military basic training. People get through it. So his death was a

big surprise. I never imagined that he would commit suicide. He

certainly was not displaying, you know, that kind of behaviour. Of

course he was withdrawn and is depressed, but other people were.

Which made it very, very shocking at the time. Even today, more than 20

years later, I remember the exact place I was in when I heard of his

death. It still has an impact on me as a person. I remember, you know,

the precise moment. It was disbelief, really. And then the

details into his death, they emerged and it was five gunshot to the

chest. It was very bizarre. Very bizarre. The details were not made

public for quite a number of years. It was disbelief, really, complete

shock. Ehmer Norton, how important is it to

the family that they get this second inquest? Really, really important. I

have not even really got words for it. They have now been without Sean

for longer than they had him. It has impacted all their lives in the most

devastating way. Both of his parents died recently, his siblings are

taking this forward. All of this pain could have been avoided if it

was properly and independently investigated at the outset, all of

it could have been avoided. It is a very, very important day, but also a

very sad one for them. Emma, solicitor for the family of Sean

Benton, thank you. And Stuart Thomson, thank you.

The MoD said in a statement today that the Army's thoughts remain with

the family of Sean Benton, adding... We will bring you the ruling at the

court when it happens. Countries around the world are on

the brink of taking what has been called the biggest step to fight

climate change. They are meeting to try to phase out one of the most

potent greenhouse gases, HFCs, used in aerosols, fridges and air

conditioners. The sort of action has worked before. A similar agreement

was reached 30 years ago when the world faced the deadly threat of the

hole in the ozone layer. This short film reflects on that momentous

deal. In the traditional motion

picture story, the villains are usually defeated,

the ending is a happy one. I can make no such promise for

the picture you are about to watch. This is a story that stars two

leaders, Ronald Reagan They became the most unlikely

eco-warriors of all time, playing the leading roles

in a largely forgotten drama that saved all life on Earth

from disaster. In the 1920s, coolants

in refrigerators were so toxic that So, we invented safer chemicals

to do the job - CFCs. The wonder chemicals

of the 20th century. There were so versatile people's

lives were transformed. Fridges, air-conditioners,

aerosols, cleaners. Hairspray that will make it

all through her day. But then Mario, a chemist

from Mexico, worked out that maybe He predicted that the Earth's

natural sun shield, the ozone layer, was being eaten by CFCs

at a terrifying rate. We felt a great responsibility

to actually warn society that Chemical companies didn't

like the sound of his warning. His research threatened

a billion-dollar industry. Destroying a perfectly good

and useful product Sure enough, there was an enormous

hole in the stratosphere It was such a shocking revelation,

over half the ozone layer destroyed over

Antarctica, in a decade. If the destruction wasn't stopped,

we would be We'll have a blind,

burnt population. We might have to become

nocturnal in order to escape. The US needed a leader to stand up

to industry and ban CFCs. Ronald Reagan's record

on the environment left His appointments at EPA

ranged from incompetent So, environmental lawyers,

economists and scientists built an argument so strong

that the President simply We pretty much backed him

into a corner. And this guy had

the President's ear. I was secretary of state

for President Reagan. And Ronnie, who had skin

cancer on his nose... Understood the threat

from the sun's radiation. He became convinced it

would be a catastrophe. So, in 1987, with America leading

the way, more than 30 countries agreed to phase out the production

of CFCs and signed It was done in Montreal,

so it was called But two years later,

the agreement was faltering. Poorer countries couldn't afford

the greener alternatives. She pushed the rich nations to help

pay for every country We carry common burdens,

face common problems and must With CFCs now banned,

the ozone hole is healing. And Mario won the Nobel Prize for

Chemistry. But today a new disaster

movie is unfolding. The lead actors have changed,

but the drama is the same. If today's leaders learn

from Ronnie and Maggie, and phase out the chemicals causing

the damage, there's still time And that film was made by Windfall

Films. When you or a relative go

into hospital, parking costs are probably the last thing

you want to worry about - but one in three hospitals

in England have put up their charges Sharks, storms and killer seagulls -

we hear from a man who spent a day and a night alone,

treading water in the middle Thank you, good morning. A

four-month-old boy has died and his nearly two-year-old brother has been

seriously injured after being attacked by a dog. Police in Essex

were called to Colchester yesterday. They say the surviving toddler was

left with life changing injuries. An adult was also slightly hurt in the

attack, which happened yesterday afternoon. MPs have attacked the

Government's handling of rail franchises, saying that passengers

have been let down badly. The transport Select Committee is urging

ministers to get a grip on the problem. It highlights the what if

goals woeful experience of Southern commuters. A judge is to decide

whether there should be a fresh inquest into the death of a young

soldier at deep cut barracks. Emma North and is the solicitor the Shaun

Venter's family and she told this programme what a new inquest would

mean to him. This has impacted all their lives in

the most devastating way. All of this pain could have been avoided if

this had been properly and independently investigated at the

outset. All of it could have been avoided. So it's a very, very

important day-to-day but also a really sad one for them. An

investigation has started at London zoo into how an 18-year-old gorilla

-esque scraped his enclosure. He managed to get into an area for

zookeepers before eventually being shot with a tranquilliser dart.

Visitors were kept inside a cafe. They said there was no danger to the

public. Lord Bramall says the police have apologised to him for their

handling of child sex abuse accusations.

A third of hospital trusts in England have increased their car

parking charges in the past year. An investigation by the press

Association news agency found that some are now charging for pounds 41

hour stay. It was found that most trusts didn't increase their

charges, but the average rise among those who did was 15%. Researchers

say they believe that a child's fussy eating is as much down to

genetic influences as parenting. Scientists compared to cows and set

of identical and not identical twins and found that their likes and

dislikes may be inherited. There are findings have been published in the

Journal of Child psychology and psychiatry.

Gordon Strachan is to carry on as Scotland manager. It is understood

he was considering his future after the defeat to Slovakia but it is

understood he has decided to stay on for the game against England. Hull

city have made Mike Phelan and their permanent head coach. He has been in

the caretaker position since the departure of Steve Bruce. Sir

Bradley Wiggins will not be at next week's parade celebrating the

achievements of our Olympians and Paralympians. He hasn't attended one

since 2004. New video technology has been introduced to rugby's top

league in England, the premiership, to help doctors identifying head

injuries more quickly. It is -- concussion is the most common injury

Overboard and alone in the ocean for more than 28 hours

except for sharks, deadly jellyfish and his hallucinations

We now bring you one man's truly astonishing story of survival.

Brett Archibald was on a tour boat off the coast of Indonesia

with friends when he fell overboard in the early hours of the morning.

I spoke to Brett yesterday, and we'll hear

from him in a minute, but first this is the incredible

moment he was rescued from the water by some passing Australians.

This lost South African has been at sea now 29 hours

Go back to that moment when you actually fell overboard.

Well, I don't think I'll ever forget that moment.

I had been violently ill in the boat.

I'd gone on to the top deck to help one my friends.

I'd gone to the side of the boat to be ill overboard

And I actually woke up in the water to see my boat probably 10 or 15

metres ahead of me, lights blazing, 2:30am in the morning,

and them just sailing away into the night.

I just knew at that moment my life was over, you know.

Can you describe how you felt in that moment, and the enormity

You know, I've actually read the dictionary from front to back

to find one word that can just put in perspective, and

But, interestingly, I never felt fear.

It was almost a serene feeling, that this is where it all ends.

I couldn't believe it, I was in a complete state

I'm a boat skipper, I've been on the water my whole life.

I could see my mate lying on the deck.

I screamed, I screamed with everything I had in my lungs.

I thought my lungs were actually going to come out of my throat.

And I realised very quickly that there were never

I put my head down, I swam with everything I had,

There was no way I was going to catch a boat.

Interestingly, I heard this funny sound and I thought

I looked around me in the sea and it was me.

It was actually this crazy noise coming out of my throat.

The ordeal went on for many hours, during which you encountered

Tell us in particular, first of all, about seagulls.

Because here was a particularly difficult incident

involving seagulls for you, wasn't there?

I think my head had bobbed into the sea.

This thing smacks me on the back of the head.

I lifted my head up to go, what on earth was that?

And out of the blue, this bird just exploded

I just felt the bridge of my nose, blood start flowing.

I felt like someone had hit me with a baseball bat.

I looked up on these two seagulls were just dive-bombing me.

They were coming from nowhere and squawking, and screaming.

Jonathan Livingston Seagull was my favourite set book.

And suddenly I thought, you know what, I can catch one of them

I started sticking my tongue out, trying to attract them back again.

I thought, in my crazy state, I thought I could actually pluck one

of them out of the air, bite its head off, squeeze the blood

I would have eaten that thing, feathers and all, I was so hungry

And a real terror that anybody would have is sharks out

You know, I thought about it so much.

I don't know the exact hours, but it was probably 15 or 16

I kept thinking, am I going to die, by being eaten by a shark?

The next minute, something bumped me in my back left kidney.

I thought it was a barracuda, a big fish, initially.

Then suddenly this thing nudged me again and actually turned me

I thought, it's a shark, I know it's a shark.

I went under the water and started feeling around.

My eyes wide open, I just saw this shark.

My first thought, I remember going, oh my God, that is so big.

I thought it was the size of a red bus in London.

Then I looked at it, it's weird how the human mind,

my first thought was, he's going to eat me.

I remember lifting my throat and saying, buddy,

I've dived a lot, then I very quickly calmed down.

I realised it was a black tipped reef shark.

I thought I could catch this guy and he would take me to a reef.

I started in my mind plotting, I even used the words,

Bear Grylls, take off your mask, here comes Archie, and I'm

going to catch you, and you're going to take me to land.

I've never been so devastated in my life.

That was the closest I came to crying, when the shark

You need to understand, it was the first time I had

found something I thought could save my life,

When you talk about what you went through, it sounds like you were

You couldn't really do much to help your own survival out

Did you just have to kind of ride it out?

Did you feel there was anything active that you could do?

People said, did you try to swim somewhere?

I just tried to swim to keep my head up.

I just designed this weird breaststroke, pulled my arms,

kicked my legs, pulled my arms, kicked my legs.

I used that as a counting mechanism to kind of work out time.

But I think, more than anything, my family.

I'm married to the most amazing woman, my kids were nine

I just remember talking to them all the time saying,

I'm hanging in there for you, I'm going to do this.

And then I would get so exhausted and something would happen.

But every time I gave up, something happened.

I had weird hallucinations, I got bumped by sharks,

Every time I could do no more, something happened.

A crazy thing happened that got me going again,

I was a big proponent of chasing all the wrong things.

Money was very important, big houses, cars.

I think now I have what I call my three Fs.

I find if I focus on those three things and they are all working

in sync, they are all in harmony, the rest just clicks in place.

Yeah, my life is a very different place to what it was

Brett Archibald with his extraordinary story of survival.

Lots of you getting in touch on whether it kids are born fussy

eaters. Stuart says," put food on the table and kids will need if they

are hungry. Kids create fussy eaters with constant pandering". Betty

says, "I have a three-year-old boy who doesn't want to eat, except for

sausage and chips. Another says my child was the same, I'm not

surprised with today's research. Another says, try this, you might

like it, but don't worry if you don't. Don't put that out in their

minds. It's negative behaviour and when constantly used will encourage

the child not to try new foods". Another says, "I believe fussy

eating is a choice and if a child is hungry, they will eat". Let us know

what you think. When you or a relative have to go

into hospital it can be a traumatic experience,

and probably one of the last things you want to worry

about is the cost of parking. But some hospitals are now

charging more than ?3 for an hour's stay -

the highest is ?4. A third of all hospitals in England

have increased their average charge for a three hour stay over

the last year. England is the only part

of the UK where hospitals routinely charge for parking,

and the costs vary widely So are these charges a necessary

evil, or a stealth tax Let's talk to Caroline Davey,

chief executive of the charity Bliss that has been campaigning

on the issue, Andrew Haldenby - director of the think tank Reform -

and Michael Seres, a patient who regularly attends hospitals

in Oxford and is forced to shell out Thank you for joining us. Michael,

how much have you spent on parking? Last week I spent ?14. To hospital

visits. I go to hospital at least twice a month so it is a continuing

monthly cost of on average ?7 a visit. KERS I'm there for longer

than an hour or two for my treatment. How do you feel about

having to pay the that? I'm frustrated. I understand that trusts

are under financial constraints and difficulties but long-term patients

like myself who have no choice but to keep coming back on a regular

basis should be offered concession, season tickets. You know when you

become a long-term patient you're going back continuously. To have to

remember to have cash... Not every Ms machine takes cards. Some are

dependent on where you are. It adds to the stress.

Have you not been offered concessions, no? Caroline, you have

complained about parking charges in hospitals, what is your view, and

the fact that they are going up? Bliss has been campaigning for a

number of years, we support premature and sick babies and the

parents of those babies who had to spend hours and hours in hospital

every day. Parents are part of care team in a neonatal unit, things like

breast-feeding and skin to skin contact for many hours at a time are

vital to the recovery of those babies. Parents are being charged,

as research today shows, many hundreds of pounds over their four,

eight, ten, 12 weeks or more that some of the most sick babies in

hospital. The last thing any parent wants is to see their newborn baby

sick, vulnerable, fragile in hospital, and the last thing they

need on top of a stress and strain is thinking about car parking

charges. Andrew, you are in favour of charges

that hospitals? Why? You use the phrase necessary evil, I think that

is exactly what it is. I think if any of us were running a hospital or

the Secretary of State for Health or whatever it might be, defending car

parking charges in hospitals would not be the best part of our job. But

the reason they are there, I think, is that in many towns, if the

hospital's car parks were free, they would fill up because there is a

competition, rather than go to the car park down the road which

charges, people could go to the NHS one which was free. I think it is a

key, key reason to keep some spaces available for patients. You think

that is more the driver than making money for the trust? Some trusts are

making ?3 million a year? Car parks cost money. If only they didn't, but

they do, they have to be maintained and there will always be some cost.

The total amount raised for the NHS is ?200 million a year, a huge

amount. If that was not raised, the money would have to be found

somewhere else, meaning less treatment. At my complete sympathy

is with both my colleagues here, because some years ago the

Department of Health said there should be concessions for disabled

people, people visiting gravely ill patients, patients who are in

regularly. These concessions schemes should be there. Actually, I think

they would be complicated to arrange but it is the policy to have those

schemes. I think they are there in order to preserve some spaces for

patients. Do you accept that? Michael? In Scotland, Wales and

Northern Ireland, they do not have car parking charges, the devolved

nations have waived them, it is only in England but hospital car parks

routinely charge. We can also say that Scotland, Wales and Northern

Ireland do not have prescription charges. But if it is an argument

about keeping car park 34 patients...? But it is partly about

money. I think prescription charges are quite sensible, even though they

are not very popular. But England's NHS has less money than those other

countries. Michael? There are not enough car parking spaces that

hospitals anyway, on average, I know from myself and the trust that I go

for, it is at least 30 minutes driving around to find the parking

space, so often your free 30 minute period is taken up trying to find a

space. So the argument that you are leaving spaces open for patients is

not correct, there are spaces there. And in this day and age, with

technology and credit card machines, it can be difficult to provide

season tickets, sadly, for those that had to go a bit longer, free

charges if you are disabled badge holder, which does not exist at the

moment. It cannot be difficult to work out. As a patient, you can into

hospital and go into a parallel universe which operates in a

different system. If we could keep tighter control hospital times, I

could get a text in the morning, my clinic is running late. If your

ticket runs out, have you ever had a fine for that? No, because I have

begged and pleaded so I have been very lucky. But you have been given

one and got out of paying it? Exactly. Parents in hospital for a

long time, a baby takes a turn for the worse or they are in the middle

of breast-feeding and they get a fine and they struggle to find the

money. Government guidance to Michael years ago said that trust

should offer concessions or free parking to certain groups, but that

guidance is not being followed. There is real inconsistency across

trusts. Some babies are transferred from one hospital to another, they

may go to one where they get a discount scheme and in the other

hospital they are being charged ?20 or ?30 a day to visit their baby,

and they are in every day. Should hospital parking facility ever find

somebody who has outstayed their -- ever find somebody who has outstayed

their ticket because their clinic has run over or whatever? Hospital

car park is different to normal car park, as we have already said, the

Government has said these car parks had to be run sensitively and

certain people should not be discriminated against. My sympathies

slightly go to the people running the hospital, I suspect they did not

get into medicine to run car parks. It is a challenge to them that they

have to get it right. Sundre said I had weeks of treatment for

leukaemia, I spent ?600 on parking costs plus petrol costs, I lost my

job and was bringing up two children. I did publicity for Mac

Millan. Nothing has changed, even my consultant was angry. Michael, do

you feel that you are subsidising an NHS Trust? Ultimately I am paying to

be treated. I understand your argument about trusts needing to

raise money, and I am sympathetic, but I'm not sympathetic to the

inconsistencies. The Government has issued two guidelines that trusts

have blatantly ignored. There is such disparity. Tell us the rules of

the game, make them consistent, treat people fairly and then you

understand what you are working on. At the moment it is complete this

parity. I am paying to see my doctor, yes. And the costs are

off-loaded onto carers, in our case parents of babies in neonatal care,

whereas having a baby in hospital is already more expensive, as the

person has just written in. The trouble, the petrol costs, the

additional food costs of the very expensive hospital canteens. It

already costs a lot. Will anything change? We have been talking about

this for a long time. And we have to continued until it changes. I know

the NHS has money worries but we should not have to accept that, we

should say, what does it cost to offer that free at the point of use,

including things like getting to hospital for your treatment or

visiting your sick baby in hospital? Andrew, could that ever be worked

out? Covering the costs of running the car parks and making sure that

people like Michael do not have too paid? That is Government policy now,

and hospitals should be held accountable. But the small charges

that we pay as patients, prescription charges, dentistry, car

parks, it is not much on they are there for a reason. Michael,

Caroline Andrew, thank you. -- Caroline and Andrew.

We invited the three Trusts with the most expensive car

parks onto the programme to explain their prices,

Royal Surrey County Hospital sent us a statement though.

That statement comes from Basildon Hospital.

Now, we will seize on dogs which may look cute, but they have an

important job to do, and demand for them has been growing. Charity

Canine Partners says it has struggled to keep up for request

with assistance dogs, with requests increasing fourfold. Each dog costs

?20,000 from selection as a puppy to retirement and it takes to Macri is

to train and to help people with complex disabilities with everything

from collecting post to fetching help. 20 many Mac Rizzelli has a

number of debilitating conditions leaving her needing a wheelchair

24-hour care. -- 29 your old Sally. Her assistant stock has given her a

level of independence she never thought possible.

Without Ethan, I don't feel like I'm Sally any more.

In a practical way, he's my hands and legs.

But in a psychological and emotional way, it's Sally and Ethan.

So, my life was completely normal until I was 17.

I was gradually confined more and more, from being out

and dancing, or doing drama or skiing, to not being able

And I gradually deteriorated from there.

I was in hospital for about eight months, I think.

I was gradually - well, actually, rapidly losing weight

and the ability to speak or to do any movements for myself.

I just had movements in my right hand.

There were a couple of times that my parents and my boyfriend,

who was up in Edinburgh, were called to say,

They had to come and say goodbye to me a few times,

I still thought, even then, when they told me I was dying,

When I first came out of the hospital, I was unable

If I had to go to the toilet, they would have to transfer me

to a manual wheelchair and push me, or transfer me to the commode.

It's very disempowering, as a 20-something,

if you can't do anything for yourself at all.

Where I've had a faint or a fall, or when I'm about to have a seizure,

one, he can specifically go and get someone and lead them back to me,

or the other way is if we are in my flat, he's trained to press a bell,

Wherever he is in the house, he is able to get to that bell,

I go into hospital a lot, often in emergency situations.

I have really scary seizures and those things are not normal.

But having the idea that Ethan was going to come into it -

obviously, I didn't know it was going to be Ethan,

that there might be some dog out there that was going

He likes to get out pink pants, I don't know why.

But that's not a problem, is it, Ethan?

It doesn't matter if I'm in my pyjamas, if I've just come out

of hospital and haven't had my hair washed for ten days,

if I've just had a seizure and my joints are all dislocated,

he will always love me and come to me, often with kisses.

It feels amazing to have someone who will always be there and always,

You brought me the post, thank you!

He's just like a constant source of support, but also of fun.

Now let's catch up with the weather. What

rest of today have in store for us? A cold wind blowing across northern

Scotland. Showers in Scotland fading to allow Sunny spells to come

through. A lot of dry weather, temperatures around 12-15dC. In

tonight we will keep a few showers going especially into northern

Scotland, an area of rain pushing up England. It will be a bit colder

than this in the clear rural parts, down into single figures. Saturday,

a wet and windy start for Northern England and Scotland, heavy showers

feed into southern England and South Wales as the afternoon goes on. In

between the two weather systems, a lot of dry and sunny weather around

and it starts to turn milder through the weekend. Sunday you may get a

dry start but it will be thundery and possibly heavy showers around.

That is your forecast. Hello, it's Friday October

14th, it's 10am. I'm Joanna Gosling in for Victoria

Derbyshire. Welcome to the programme

if you've just joined us. Is your child a fussy eater,

or were you one as a child? Well, relax, because scientists have

found some kids are We will be discussing it with food

writer Annabel Karmel. Lord Bramall tells the BBC he has

had a personal apology from the police all the way they handled

child abuse allegations. Barak Obama's presidency

is almost at an end, so what will his legacy be

for young black Americans? Newsbeat has been travelling around

the US to speak to the young people who've grown up

under his leadership. When he got elected, everyone had

very high expectations, perhaps unrealistic expectations. Black

people admit you would see a change economically and be able to see

families rise out of poverty. And a lot of that is just not occurred.

A four month old baby boy has died, and his 22 month old brother has

been seriously injured, after being attacked by a dog.

Police in Essex were called to Harwich Road

They say the surviving toddler, his brother, was left

An adult was slightly hurt in the attack.

MPs have attacked the Government's handling of rail franchises,

saying passengers have been let down badly.

The Transport Select Committee is urging ministers to get

And in a report it highlights what it calls the woeful experience

of Southern commuters, who've suffered months

of disruption because of strikes and staff shortages.

A judge is to decide whether there should be a fresh

inquest into the death of a young soldier at Deepcut

Private Sean Benton from Hastings was found with bullet wounds

to his chest in 1995 while on a training exercise

Emma Norton is the solicitor for Sean Benton's family.

She told this programme what a new inquest

They've now been without Sean for longer than they had him. This has

impacted all of their lives in the most devastating way. Both of his

parents died recently, so his siblings are now taking this

forward. All of this pain could have been avoided if this had been

properly and independently investigated at the outset. All of

it could have been avoided. So it's a very, very important day-to-day

but also a really sad one for them. An investigation's started

at London Zoo into how a 29 stone Kumbuca, an 18-year-old

silverback, managed to get out of his den and into an area

for zookeepers, before eventually being shot

with a tranquilliser dart. Visitors were kept locked

inside a cafe while armed police The zoo said there was no danger

to members of the public. We can talk now to someone who was

at the zoo yesterday, Jonathan Moore, who was attending a

conference. Tell us when you became aware there was a problem? They

sounded the siren, it was really loud and was followed by something

like, "Staff, please proceed to the gorilla enclosure". I was right next

to it, so like an idiot, I just thought, let's go in. I went

directly into the heart of the gorilla enclosure. And what did you

see that? You don't know what to expect and it was completely empty.

There were no people inside and I couldn't see any gorillas or any

chimps. I saw two staff members looking a bit stressed out but still

professionally composed and I jokingly asked them, did the gorilla

escaped? They said, "We don't know, please get out". So I got out and

yeah... I understand you ended up taking shelter in a bird enclosure.

Did you hear anything from any members of staff about how the

gorilla had escaped from it then? Not from the staff at all. The next

staff person I met, on my way out, was just telling me like, look at

please, get away quickly. I saw other people running away so I

thought OK, this is serious. I thought they may not have known

exactly what happened, so they would just be keeping everyone safe and

asking us to go to the nearby building, so that's what we did. Did

you feel under threat or in any danger? Did you think that the

situation was handled well? Well, you know, our company does research

into these kind of associations and when you hear gorilla and some kind

of noise in a bush, what do you think? You get really afraid and

your heart is pumping. There were people around me, older people and

people with anxiety disorders who were obviously not feeling so well.

And yeah, you're really scared. A gorilla is serious business. You

didn't hear anyone say that the gorilla had escaped via a service

entrance? I have a note that you had perhaps spoken to a member of staff

who said something about the gorilla escaping by a service entrance? I

don't know whether that's correct or not, we were allowed back and when I

spoke to staff members that is what they told me. A colleague saw the

gorilla charge the class a couple minutes before this whole thing

happen, before the alarm sounded, and the glass didn't budge, it's

very safe. So the only explanation really is that he escaped through

some kind of door. But it's a little bit hearsay. I think they're correct

in saying no one was in danger at any point. Thank you for sharing

your experiences with us today. You're welcome.

Thousands of mourners in Thailand are taking part in a ceremony today

to honour their king, who died yesterday aged 88.

People have been lining the streets to pay their respects.

The official mourning will last a year.

Thailand's king was the world's longest-reigning monarch.

In January Barack Obama will leave the White House,

His election in 2008 - as the first black President

of the United States - symbolised great change.

But what has his legacy been for young black Americans?

What about fussy eating? Do you believe that some kids are just born

fussy? Also let us know what you think about hospital parking. Let's

catch up with the sport. Good morning. We're talking rugby

union this morning and tonight sees the first match in the premier

European competition, the Champions Cup, as Glasgow host Leicester. I'm

joined by the former Scottish fly-half Craig Charm is in our

London studio. Thanks so much for holding us. We've been hearing about

video technology being used in England to help doctors more quickly

identify concussions. Is that something you have experience with?

I've experienced concussion a few times over the years at club rugby

and internationally as well with Scotland. I got knocked out in Paris

playing against the French and woke up in the changing rooms. I've

experienced it, it's not great, but nowadays there is so much being done

for player welfare and making sure the players are looked after really

well and there are no after-effects. Everything 's been done. Saracens

are doing that and it's fantastic news. Concussion is obviously still

a massive problem within rugby as a professional sport. How much do you

think this kind of technology will help to address that problem? I

think anything that can be done to help is a step forward. As I said

before, player welfare is massive. You don't want to discourage young

players from playing it. Parents worried about their kids playing...

It's a contact sport, there's going to be bangs and knocks, but we've

got to look at everything we can to make it as safe as possible. We've

been talking a little bit about the Champions Cup and the fact that the

night Glasgow host Leicester. Scottish success has been in kind of

short supply in that competition. Do you feel that this season, Scottish

teams can make an impact? Glasgow are the only Scottish team in the

competition. Edinburgh had a success a couple of the other guy when they

got to the semifinal. But I think this year, Townsend has got a squat

and Glasgow deep enough and strong enough to compete. The big challenge

is getting out of the group. If they can get out of the group, they've

got a great opportunity to go further. It's a tough group with

Racing and Munster and Leicester. The day's match is really important

because to win the first game is massive. Who do you think might win

it? Racing won it last year. There's 506 teams out there. Sorry, Saracens

won it last year, I beg your pardon. I think Saracens are strong. Bath

are going great at the moment. -- there are five or 16 is out there.

You can't really tell until after the first few games have taken place

and then we will hopefully be able to tell more in a few weeks' time.

Craig, thanks so much for joining us. Great to hear your insight.

Former Scottish fly-half Craig charmers. There will be five live

commentary of that match between Glasgow and Leicester tonight.

A 4-month-old baby has died, and his 22-month-old brother

is seriously injured, after being attacked by a dog.

Police in Essex were called to Harrich Road

They say the surviving child was left with "life-changing injuries".

An adult was slightly hurt in the attack.

Our correspondent Gareth George is in Colchester.

What can you tell us about what happened here? Well, a police Gordon

is still in place here. -- a police cordoned. What we know

so far is that the police were called here yesterday afternoon just

after 3pm by the Ambulance Service and three people were found injured

inside the property. This morning we had the confirmation from Essex

Police that a baby boy has been pronounced dead and we now know that

that baby boy was four months old. A young child, also a boy, is being

treated for serious injuries which have been described as life

changing. We now know that that boy is 22 months old. Essex Police have

told us this is a tragic incident and specially trained officers are

providing support to the family at this difficult time. The dog has

been removed from the property by Essex Police. We don't know what

type of dog that was. It's been reported that perhaps it's a

Staffordshire type of dog but that Bedale has yet to be confirmed.

People I've spoken to in the area say the family hadn't lived here

that long but neighbours have expressed their sadness about what's

been taking place. Let's speak to Ryan O'Mara,

the editor of K9 magazine, and a former professional dog

trainer. He joins us via webcam

from Nottinghamshire. Thank you very much for joining us.

We don't know the type of dog involved here. Our reporter saying

it's reported locally that it's a Staffordshire type of dog. Can any

dog turn and attack children? Absolutely. My starting position on

all dogs is, it's not so much that all dogs are potentially dangerous,

but all dogs are potentially unpredictable. One of the problems

that we've got in this country is a lack of awareness really about what

dogs are. Dogs are animals alike people, they are prone to acting in

one way on one day and on another day, acting completely differently.

What we have to acknowledge is that the two things that dogs have got is

a personality of their own and a mouth that is full of teeth will

start so ultimately we have to treat every single dog as if it is

potentially capable of fighting someone will stop but are some

breeds more unpredictable and dangerous than others?

Are some breeds more dangerous and unpredictable than others? No, and

this is part of the problem we need to try and fix. The danger dogs act

-- Dangerous Dogs Act claimed there were four dogs breeds who were

particular dangerous. What that implies is that they are taken care

of because they are banned and every other type of dog is safe because it

is not banned. All of the expert studies, all the analysis that has

been done around the world says that this isn't the case. The dangerous

message that that can pose to people is that it is the dog's fault. When

a dog does something wrong, it's our responsibility as its own and the

person that is responsible for making sure people don't come to any

harm as a result of something our dog does. We need to make sure that

the Dangerous Dogs Act is reformed, do away with this idea that certain

breeds are at fault for the great ills we are suffering.

When you say any dog can turn and attack, what do you say about the

way that people should handle bipeds, particularly if they're

right young kids around? We need to look at two things, the first one is

the understanding of dogs. It is my personal experience based on what I

have seen over the past 20 years that if 50% of dogs are well trained

in that country, -- this country, I think that is very generous. I need

very good dog owners at my local park, and I meet people whose him

become to control their dogs. If you can't control your dog and you have

not put the requisite amount of training in with your dog, and

socialisation, then these are the problems that later occur if you

then think our dog is great with kids, it is fine to play in the

garden or to leave the kids and attended with dogs. There is no

upside to doing that. A dog is a dog, it is responsibility to make

sure they behave. Secondly, and think the Government could do this,

is looking up the supply of dogs in this country. If we are talking

regularly added themes, sadly, regularly, about losing children to

dog attacks, who breeds and supplies dogs? We have an unregulated

production line of dogs in this country. If we really are committed

to fixing these problems, we have to address the unregulated supply of

dogs and two move away from this idea that it is just certain slant

abilities to breed good dog is make sure we train when we get them.

Ryan, thank you. In January Barack Obama

will leave the White House, His election in 2008 -

as the first black President of the United States -

symbolised great change. But what has his legacy been

for young black Americans? The BBC's Newsbeat travelled

across the country to speak to those who voted for him,

and the young people who have grown Barack Obama will be the 49th

President of the United States. His campaign harnessed hope

and promise to change. But tonight, because of what we did

on this day, in this election, at this defining moment,

change has come to America. Eight years since his supporters

celebrated victory, have things We've travelled across the US

to speak to people who voted for Barack Obama, to see

what they think of his When he got elected,

everybody had very, Perhaps, maybe,

unrealistic expectations. For a lot of people, it meant

you would see change economically. It meant that you would see families

be able to rise out of poverty. And a lot of that, we see, just did

not occur. And we look to the future with those

who have grown up in a country run by him. I don't know what will

happen. Some people really, really love him and some people really,

really don't. For this Californian, 2008 would be

a year that changed his life forever. I just joined the military,

because there is a lot of fierce nationalism still over what happened

with 9/11. It was the first time I had ever voted. I remember sitting

around hoping that Barack Obama was going to get in, because he was

really young, very charismatic, and he looked like he was probably the

smartest person in the room. But on election day itself, Rico had

other things on his mind. I was getting ready to deploy to

Afghanistan, so I was not really able to share that moment with

everybody else. I think I might have been in Germany all Kuwaiti at the

time. So we did not really have a huge celebration. -- Germany all

Kuwaiti. But back yet, everyone was going nuts.

One of those was this woman. She lives in Chicago and works as a

school administrator in the south side of the city. I told people as a

kid that I wanted to be president, they pointed me to a map that had a

picture of all the presidents that we had in the past and said we would

never have an African American one. I had an immediate rush back to that

time and wanted to find that teacher and let her know that you was wrong.

Looking back on it, I think I could not cast a bowled from here on out

that would be as lamentable as -- mementos or meaningful to me on a

personal level as that one was. I had been working the night shift.

We were in the Persian Gulf area. Navy veteran manual watched history

unfolds while serving on a warship. -- Emmanuel. The image picked up, it

was an image of Senator Obama with a flag-waving in the background. A

cheesy background. Fireworks were going. The 44th president, I just

jumped up and started screaming and hollering, everybody looked to me

like I was crazy and eventually looked at the TV to see what was

going on. It felt like I was invincible. I had a stern talking to

afterwards so I guess I was that invincible!

Barack Obama's promised changes to the health care system and his

handling of the economic crisis are often seen as the most important

things he has done. Whether people agreed with or not.

But since 2008, other issues have divided the nation. Police shootings

of unarmed black men have sparked protests in cities across the US,

highlighting racial tension. This is not just a black issue, not just a

Hispanic issue. This is an American issue. Emmanuelle grew up on the

south side of Chicago and has seen the relationship between police and

young back -- black people close up. To see hearts and minds change about

African-Americans in the country on the world will be difficult to

overcome. Having a black president changes stuff. You do not

automatically assume that I am a criminal, I could be the future

president. He is a very articulate person. He

handled the situation is eloquently. But towards the ends of his term,

now, he is being a bit more vocal in saying some things. I think it would

have been a bit more powerful if he had done them a little bit more.

There is a big chunk of our fellow citizenry that feels as if because

of the colour of their skin, they are not being treated the same. But

for Emmanuel, these problems are part of a wider issue in poor black

communities across the country. Go and gang violence is common in

places like this. 500 people have died as a result in Chicago alone

this year. We had a neighbourhood youth killed

not too far. We both grew up here. That is the scary thing. There have

been shootings right across the street at that house, that house was

shot at a few times. Lots of people I grew up with are

not living any more, are serving 20 or 30 years in prison. I am guilty

of it myself, I have been riding around in cars with people I

probably should not have been riding around with and if we got pulled

over, I was not doing anything wrong or participating in any activities

but, you know, one African-American in a car with drugs equals four

African-Americans in a car with drugs.

This woman says that the protests show the pace of change is too slow.

I live in Chicago, that is ground zero for police brutality. That

makes things harder. It makes things harder to reflect a map and know

that President Obama is also from south side Chicago. Knowing the gun

and gang violence rates here, knowing it is hard even for students

year to come to school Sundays and having to cross gun turf, having to

cross gang turf, having to come from communities that are, to be honest,

extremely broken. That is a hard sell for me, and I did not expect

the president to wave a magic wand and things change, but on that same

token I think I expected a lot more. Shut it down! Shut it down!

But as well as protests, there has been celebration. This is awesome!

That gay marriage is now legal in the whole country, I'm so excited.

Amazing, we have waited a long time. Last year, the highest court in

America ruled that same-sex marriage was illegal nationwide. It's, you

know... I am a young gay person of colour, and so things have been

going pretty well for me. I love Barack Obama. Everything he has been

pushing have worked out great for me. Let's see, now. We got... The

gay rights movement has finally been able to achieve, I would say, a good

80% of what we wanted to do. We have got marriage. There is a lot more

accidents of the LGBT community as a whole. -- a lot more acceptance of.

Working out pretty well. It is the new normal. People say now, I am

gay. Whatever. He would not have had that eight years ago, people would

be like what?! We are a giant leap closer to a quality today. It is

proud to be an American and understand that the highest court in

our land has validated our relationship.

Today we can say, in no uncertain terms, that we have made our union a

little more perfect. But did Barack Obama's focus on LGBT

writes Nina lack of progress on race relations?

I think this President and administration has worked very

diligently in the LGBT community, and I am a huge supporter of that

work. But I think that presupposed and kind of took over a lot of the

other policy goals and initiatives he was working towards the

beginning. I think LGBT writes were an easy win for the president,

partially because of the Ciara we are in. And the LGBT lobby is very

large and influential and very monetary. I did not expect him to

come in and change all things at once, that was one area where I

think he fell short. Good evening. Tonight I can report

to the American people and to the world that the United States has

conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of

Al-Qaeda. Osama bin Laden died at the hands of

US special forces that this compound in Pakistan, a moment many Americans

had waited years for. It is a victory for which Obama, as

commander-in-chief, will partly be remembered. Bin Laden's actions on

September the 11th lead to long, drawn-out military action by the US

in Afghanistan and Iraq. It encouraged many Americans, like

Rico, to serve. It was not quite like I imagined. I imagined it would

be like Saving Private Ryan or something, or a video game, where

you fire them off and do this other stuff. It was a lot more confused. I

would say two out of the four firefights I have been in, I was

wearing sandals. We are running around and we like, who is shooting

at us, what time is being attacked? Nobody knows what is going on,

people are running all over the place, grabbing weapons to fire at

the person he was randomly joule wielding pistols for some reason.

We're just looking at their shooting. And the person with the

shotgun was just like... The mark 19 automatic grenade launcher, it is a

grenade machine gun. That was pretty much what did it. But that was one

of our first cases of all that. Everyone therefore the most part was

18 or 19, we had come out of basic training. -- everyone that, for the

most part. Obama has dramatically reduced the number of US troops in

Afghanistan, they are now only there to help local forces keep control.

I don't think he was a reticent leader, I think he knew enough to

know that he did not understand everything about the military,

because he did not serve himself, that he had lots of people who had,

and lots of advisers who were very intelligent much regard. But I think

he understood that when you are digging yourself into a hole, the

way to stop getting deeper is to stop that and try to climb out of

it. It stunned a lot of people because they were saying, OK, why

did we lose this? Barack Obama already cut and run. No, we lost

because it was lost the minute we went in there. Going to Afghanistan

and putting your life on the line debit thing else, it was worth it to

me, personally, but from a grand geopolitical perspective, I don't

really know how much of the difference we made.

His foreign policy has faced criticism. A lack of strategy to

tackle Isis, allowing the war in Syria to continue and a failure to

close the military prison at Guantanamo Bay.

The previous administration was very, I would say, aggressive in

their beliefs of the world and how they handled things. The president,

sometimes to the detriment, wanted to go to the appropriate process and

make sure he was not being heavy-handed. Lots of people said he

led from behind but I think he gave others opportunity to take

ownership. I think you did a really good job in trying to engage other

foreign leaders to say that this is not only Irish Yukoner it is

everybody's, we need your support. -- this is not only answer is shoe.

Thousands of American soldiers have been killed since 2001, Rico's

colleague was one. He had only been there two weeks, he was a late

deployer. He got there near the middle of the deployment, he was

therefore two weeks and got blown up in an IED. He had some little kids.

I don't know, I am still processing. A person is there one day and gone

the next. -- one minute. You take personal victories and losses where

you can. As far as foreign policy, I don't necessarily think that we

would have been able to do better and anybody else. -- and anybody

else. These students in Washington, DC

have grown up with Barack Obama as president. For most of them, he's

the only president they really remember. As America prepares to

elected next leader, some of them will be voting for the first time.

It's been really cool to have a Democratic president, and

African-American president, a huge part of that. There have been ups

and downs. There are still lots more issues when it comes to LGBT writes,

in grain braces, ingrained sexism in our society that we need to keep

moving forward. We are a generation who doesn't know much other than

him. It's kind of awesome we've had a black president. 2016 is a scary

year so far. People have reason to be afraid. Terrorism is scary. It's

really difficult. I do know what's going to happen. It makes you feel

proud as an American. My party has really supported me and who I am.

It's really incredible how we've gone from 2004 when it was demonised

to where we are now, when gay rights is the norm and mainstream. I think

it's just amazing how far we've come. I'm really hoping the next

eight years look very similar to the past eight years. I think things

have got considerably better. He's always been a very polarising

character. You have people who really really love him and then you

have people who really really don't. Because the president has been able

to elevate the discussion, has been able to make people uncomfortable, I

think sometimes you have to make people uncomfortable to get to a

certain level of change. That, in and of itself, has been something

that I think he can hang his hat on and something that as an

African-American I'm proud of. I have a six-year-old daughter and

when she goes to school next year, she will be learning about the

presidents and she might think it is odd that this one president looks

like her and all the previous 43 didn't! When I was growing up you

had a couple of black actors and that was it. No body dogs about

immigrants, nobody talked about people as individuals or eagles or

anything else. Now it's completely different, things are completely

different. That film was by Radio 1 News beat

and if you want to see it again or tell your friends about it, it is on

the BBC iPlayer now. Breaking news just in, we've just

heard that the High Court has given the go-ahead for a second inquest

into the death of Private Sean Benton at deep cut Barrett's 21

years ago. The original inquest recorded a verdict of suicide. His

family have always disputed that. They went to the High Court to try

to get a second inquest ordered and they have won that case this

morning. The High Court giving the guy had for a fresh inquest into the

death of Private Sean Benton at the deep cut Barrett's.

Fussy eating is mainly genetic, according to the latest

We will be talking to one of the researchers from

University College London, along with food writer Annabel Karmel.

Lord Bramall has told the BBC that he's had a personal apology

from the police for the way they handled child abuse allegations.

We'll get more details from columnist and writer Charles Moore.

Now let's catch up with the sport. Some breaking news and Queen's Park

Rangers have announced they are backing their manager, Jimmy-Floyd

Hasselbaink. It follows an investigation by the club

interesting by the Daily Telegraph newspaper which claimed that he had

agreed to act as an ambassador for a sports company. The club say the

newspaper hasn't provided evidence to them and so they are fully

supporting him as club manager. Hull City have made Mike Phelan

their permanent head coach. He's been acting as caretaker

manager since the departure Hull are currently 15th

in the Premier League table. Sir Bradley Wiggins won't be at next

week's parades celebrating the achievements of our

Olympians and Paralympians. Yesterday, Wiggins pulled out

of the four day Abu Dhabi Tour race And new video technology has been

introduced to rugby union's top league in England the Premiership,

to help doctors act more quickly Concussion is the most common injury

in professional rugby. That's all the sport for now,

Joanna. Thanks. Those of you getting

involved with your thoughts on paying for hospital parking. Andy on

Facebook, "My son was taken to hospital a month ago and it was very

serious. The amount we had to pay in parking fees was scandalous".

Another says, "Greed, outsourcing and bad management has clearly come

in". Been in magister," I paid ?148 for parking while attending to my

epileptic wife and baby in intensive care. -- Dean in Manchester. Another

says, "I'm about to give birth and find it astonishing that we will be

paying ?3 an hour when the likelihood is that we will be in the

hospital for at least 24 hours. Parking charges for expecting

mothers is outrageous those quote. Another says, " we had to park

outside them to arrive punctually. It's disgraceful". John on Twitter,

I agree that charging like that is wrong. "We Had apparently overstayed

the 30 minutes allowed for visitors to the bereavement department when

we collected his death the delegates. To target someone at one

of the lowest points in their life is despicable and beyond reproach".

Michael says, "I'm a cancer patient and have to visit the hospital on a

regular basis. I have no problem paying the parking fees. Too many

people want something for free. Let's look in a little more detail

now about the apology that Lord Bramall has had,

from the Metropolitan Police over the way it handled

child abuse allegations. Of course, Lord Bramall was cleared

of any wrongdoing at all - and had always denied it -

but it wasn't until ten months after a raid on the Bramalls' house

that he was given that news. During that terrible

period of waiting, So the apology was reported first in

the Daily Telegraph this morning - and the paper's former editor

Charles Moore is joining me now. Thank you much for joining us. It's

been a long awaited apology. What's your reaction now it's come? Well,

of course, it's good that it's come. But you have to remember why it

came, which is that they are refusing to publish the report of

their behaviour, the police are refusing. The head of the

Metropolitan Police, Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, went to see Lord Bramall

to give the apology but of course he couldn't fully tell him what he was

apologising for because he won't release the whole of the report.

While I know Lord Bramall welcomes the apology, he also still doesn't

really know the full nature of what the police did and how wrong what

they did... I mean come on he knows from his own experience, but they've

not admitted it. You know Lord Bramall and I know you don't regard

yourself as a friend but you do know him. How has he been coping through

this? Well, he's a very brave old gentleman. He is 92, I think. He

fought at D-Day. He's run the British Armed Forces, he's had to

deal with some difficult things. But that doesn't mean it's not very all,

what happened to him. The rule that you are innocent until proven guilty

was completely ignored. Police descended on his house, 20 of them

came in and searched the house for ten hours, all on the basis of the

evidence of one total fantasist. And they still didn't apologise, even

though they have privately admitted that they knew pretty quickly that

it wasn't true, but they didn't apologise to him because they were

investigating other people accused in the same way and they didn't

want, as they put it, to compromise that. So he knew, well, obviously he

knew he was innocent anyway, and he was just kept waiting, as you said

in his report, -- your report, his wife died. He's a tough man but it's

been very hard for him and very hard for all the other people in this

situation, such as the widow of Lord Brittan for example. When an

allegation is taken to police, is the only way they can investigate it

to actually do exactly what they did in this case? Is there any way

around scrutinising the investigation? I see what you're

saying but I think it is really wrong, this. The police get

accusations about everything, every day. One of the most important thing

is the police have to do is form a decent way of working out whether an

accusation is likely to be true, in all departments of life. And if you

suspend any critical judgment about accusations in the case of

accusations of child abuse, then you promote the most enormous wrong

because you waste a huge amount of time and money and even more

importantly, you ruin the lives of people who face these accusations.

This can't be good for the victims of child abuse and it can't be good

for justice. Are we where we are because previously critical judgment

was suspended to far the other way? That may well be true but it is

really a case of too wrong is not making a right. If you don't presume

innocent then you presume guilt. And if you presume guilt, people like

Lord Bramall or any schoolteacher or clergyman or child carer or whatever

is open to the most appalling threats. This has happened to

hundreds of people and it has ruined their lives. Should there be

anonymity for the accused? Well, at Parliament on Monday, Lady Brittan

and Cliff Richard and Paul Gamba Genie are all going to be talking a

demeaning about this -- meeting about this. There's a strong case

for having anonymity until charge. Because otherwise, this ruination

that I'm speaking of becomes commonplace. Interesting. Anonymity

until charge, because the police argument is always that when a name

is out there, it's helpful for their investigation because if there are

other victims, they will come forward, which obviously helps build

a case. Would that be damaged if there were anonymity until charge? I

think the police have some reason in that but they mustn't start using

individuals who are accused of something as hostages, tethered goat

is to bring out others. Also there is an obvious unfairness here

because if the person accused is named and the accuser is not named,

in fact is never named, the inequality between the two becomes

very great. So I think something that have to be done about this. You

said Lord Bramall is a strong character but to go through this at

his stage of life must have been incredibly hard? Yes, his wife was

very ill and she died without knowing that he had been cleared.

These are horrible things to happen and something similar, Lady Brittan

is younger, 76 today actually, but she had to go through this, police

knew that charges weren't true but they didn't tell Lord Brittan before

he died. These are very bad, dreadful things do happen to people.

Thanks very much indeed for joining us. Now let's talk about something

clearly different. We all know kids who would eat

chocolate all day long and hate Maybe you were like that when you

were a child. Well, you may be relieved

to know that scientists at University College London have

found that fussy eating in kids is mainly genetic,

rather than down to poor parenting. By studying the behaviour of twins,

the researchers found that refusing to try new foods or being picky

about what they ate had little to do Let's talk now to Annabel Karmel,

a children's food expert who helps Also joining us is Ciara Atwell -

her daughter Aoife only eats beige Sophie Mei Lan Slack

and her daughter Sophie says she had to make

food fun to help her And Andrea Smith is joint lead

on the study from Thank you all for joining us.

Andrea, kids are born fussy? How have you managed to come to that

assessment? Well, we studied twins over at UCL College London, and we

look at how much two types of twins are alike for these behaviours, then

we can tease out the relative effects of genes and the environment

on these traits in early childhood. So when you conclude that they are

born fussy, is that they are predisposed to like or not like

certain things, or they are just generally fussy, meaning they take a

wary approach to food? We found that there are small genetic differences

in their behaviours and temperament or the way that they perceive food

that give them a tendency to be more fussy about foods. We know that

these traits can still be modified, it is not a definite destiny. OK, we

will talk more about that in a moment. Ciara, you have a child who

will only eat beige food? She did, she is much better now. She is five

now. She was two going on three, she was incredibly fussy. She liked

beige food, or bland foods. How did that start, what happened? I blame

myself. Well, you shouldn't, but tell us more. I feel much better

more. I blamed myself at the time, I was pregnant with my son and I felt

very sick throughout most of my pregnancies alight, naturally, eight

very bland foods. Plain pasta, bread, rice, that of thing. And I

think that then rubs off on her and made her a fussy eater and made it

not so well. When my son was born and my normal appetite for regular

and healthy food and vegetables and fruit came back, she would not eat

them any more. Until I realised that maybe I had played a part in the

situation. Andrea, what do you think? Parents are very important as

role models, so your child will have undoubtedly seen you at the table

and mimicked your behaviours at some point, so I am sure that will have

been a factor. Let's bring in Sophie, you have your 20-month-old

daughter Arianna with you. Is she fussy? To start off with, because of

pregnancy and breast-feeding and my love of spicy food, she was not

fussy to start with, and the same with my eldest child. It is since

they have been mixing with their friends that they have started to

develop habits that they don't like certain food. So we have always

tried to be really positive and focused on making food firm. So how

do you do that? We don't add pressured to dinner times, we don't

force them to finish a portion, because kids don't need that much to

eat. We put out a range of different home-made things and if they don't

like certain things, we won't call it bad, we will just call food good,

it is about sustaining and health. So we try to just keep dinner time

is relaxed, or sometimes we even have picnics just to make it a bit

more phone and get the kids involved in the cooking and even in the

growing self vegetables. -- just to make it a bit more fun. We try to

encourage them so that they have knowledge and pride in what they'd.

Annabel Karmel, most people who have kids will probably have seen your

books, you advocate, to some extent, the sort of food that we are seeing