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I'm Joanna Gosling, welcome to the programme.

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Thousands more people are evacuated from Aleppo

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The operation to rescue civilians is continuing round the clock -

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one of those who's leaving is Zouhir Alshimale, whose story

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I can't move anywhere else. Nowhere is safe in the whole East.

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It is heartbreaking, sending the last message from me from my

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neighbourhood where I used to live, and work from.

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Former Royal Marine Sergeant Alexander Blackman,

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who was convicted of the murder of an injured Taliban

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fighter in Afghanistan, could be granted bail today ahead

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And I've been speaking to Judy Murray about the incredible

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We also talked about her hopes for her granddaughter,

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the weather in Scotland and why she works so tirelessly to get

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I realise how much harder you have to work to make things happen in the

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women's side of any sport, compared to the men's, and also very aware

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that the majority of the decision-makers, certainly within

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tennis, they are all guys. Hello, welcome to our last

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live show of the year, We'll be looking ahead

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to tomorrow's final with fans We're down to the final four -

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let us know who you're supporting. We'll also look at

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the runners and riders This is our last programme before

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we break for Christmas. Do get in touch on all the stories

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we're talking about this morning - If you text, you will be charged

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at the standard network rate. Our top story today -

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an evacuation of civilians and fighters from the Syrian city

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of Aleppo is continuing round the clock, as a ceasefire

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held firm overnight. Some 3000 people, including hundreds

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of children and the injured, were transported out of the city

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in the first convoys yesterday. The United Nations estimates that up

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to 50,000 people may still be in the eastern districts of the city

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that the rebels had These were the first convoys

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to leave Aleppo yesterday. A fleet of ambulances brought out

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some of the sick and injured. Next, a long line of green buses

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carrying hundreds of civilians and rebel fighters weave

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through the streets, ravaged by years of bombing

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and a month-long siege. During the day, around 3,000 people,

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among them the very youngest, were taken to neighbouring Idlib

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province, which is mainly Many to already

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overstretched refugee camps. Over the coming days,

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around 50,000 more people are expected to be moved

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out of Aleppo. For those who remain,

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there's a desperate need for food Turkey, which helped

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broker the evacuation, is preparing to take in some

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of the most vulnerable people and last night the UK pledged money

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to help those affected. The UK is going to provide an extra

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?20 million of practical support The mayor of East Aleppo said

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to us we can't bring back those who are lost,

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but we can save those who remain, But now there are deep concerns

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that the war in Syria will move from the streets of eastern Aleppo

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to other parts of the country and that the suffering

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for so many is far from over. Our correspondent Lina Sinjab

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is in Beirut for us now, Well, another round of buses loaded

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with people from Aleppo is being uploaded now, another round of

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evacuation is taking place today. The Syrian Observatory said -- the

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Syrian Observatory for human rights said that over the past 24 hours

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around 8500 people have been evacuated, including 3000 civilians.

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The Ministry of Defence, the Russian Ministry of Defence, says the

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numbers were around more than 6000. The UN, as you said earlier,

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believes that at least 50,000 people are still trapped in eastern Aleppo

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and need to be evacuated, this will not happen overnight, this will take

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a few days of the evacuation process with tens of buses loaded with

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people taken mainly to the northern province of a blip, which is still

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under rebel control. Thank you. -- the northern province of Idlib.

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Annita McVeigh has the rest of the news.

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President Barack Obama has said the US will take action

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against Russia for what he calls interfering in the US election.

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Russia has been accused of hacking the emails of the Democratic Party

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The Kremlin says the claims are nonsense.

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Laura Bicker has the latest from Washington.

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Thank you to the incredible people of Pennsylvania, thank you!

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As he tours the country to thank voters, he's dismissing claims that

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Vladimir Putin helped put him in the White House.

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But the Obama administration made Russian hacking claims

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Now they say the Russian president was directly involved

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in the operation which targeted the e-mails of Hillary

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Mr Obama gave this response to NPR Radio.

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that when any foreign government tries to impact the integrity of our

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elections that we need to take action, and we will at a time

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Earlier the White House Press Secretary pointed

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Based on my personal reading, and not based on any knowledge that

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I have that may be classified or otherwise, it's pretty obvious!

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That they were referring to the senior most government

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Vladimir Putin has always denied the accusations and said

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they were laughable nonsense, no proof has ever been made public.

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The dispute over Russia's role in the election is overshadowing

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The President-elect and the president do not agree over

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A Royal Marine found guilty of murdering an injured Afghan

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fighter is today asking senior judges to grant him bail.

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Sergeant Alexander Blackman - known as Marine A -

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was jailed in 2013 and sentenced to life imprisonment

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He has been granted the right to appeal his conviction.

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And we'll be speaking to Sergeant Blackman's wife Claire

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Theresa May has told EU leaders that she wants an early agreement

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on the status of British people living on the continent,

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She was talking ahead of the latest Brexit talks in Brussels.

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The leaders of the other 27 member states agreed

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that the European Parliament would have a formal role

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Thousands of Southern rail commuters are facing more disruption

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after talks aimed at resolving the dispute ended without agreement.

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Drivers on the network began a 24-hour stoppage at midnight.

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Andy Moore sent this update from Victoria Station in London.

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All 2000 services on Southern have been cancelled, 300,000 people have

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been told to make alternative travel arrangements. Talks at ACAS ended

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yesterday, the parent company of Southern said they put forward a

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practical offer to the union, the union said it was basically a

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non-offer, there was nothing new in it at all. Both sides say they have

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an open door to new talks but no date has been set. There was a

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protest last night, people gathered on the concourse with banners and

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placards and then marched to the Department for Transport nearby and

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presented the Transport Secretary, Chris Grayling, with an early

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Christmas present of a toy train set. Many commuters blame him for

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not stepping in to resolve this dispute. He says the dispute is all

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down to union militancy. This strike lasts until midnight and nights,

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there will be another strike involving conductors from the RMT

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union on Monday and Tuesday next week. Some but not all services will

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be cancelled. There is more disruption over the New Year and

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there is another big strike planned on Monday January the 9th, which is

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last for six days. Murray reporting.

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Regulators say banks should not have to reimburse customers

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who are tricked into transferring money into the accounts

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The Payment Systems Regulator was responding to a complaint

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It said banks needed to better protect victims

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Hospitals in England will be so full this winter that infection

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rates are bound to rise, according to a new report.

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NHS England said plans to maximise the number of beds available

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But the independent healthcare research charity the Nuffield Trust

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says accident and emergency targets will also be missed.

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A sugar tax on soft drinks could reduce the numbers of adults

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and children in the UK who become obese by tens of thousands,

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A study in the medical journal The Lancet says a proposed sugar

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levy is likely to have a significant impact on health.

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But the British soft drinks association says there is no

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It was one small snack for man, one giant treat for mankind.

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Three, two, one! CHEERING

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Scientists have sent a meat and potato pie into space to see

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if travelling to a height of nearly 20 miles would affect

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It was attached to a weather balloon and launched from Wigan,

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It reached the stratosphere then came back to earth,

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landing around 50 miles away in North Yorkshire.

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Boldly going where no pie has gone before!

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That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9:30am.

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What on earth is that about?! And updates on Aleppo, we're getting

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reports that that operation to take people out of the city has been

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suspended. AFP say the operation to evacuate civilians and fighters from

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the last rebel held parts of Aleppo has been suspended, are quoting a

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security and -- Syrian security force, the opposition forces are

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accusing the opposition of violating the deal, there is an accusation

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that the militants fail to respect the agreement. AFP have been told

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that, reportedly, and Reuters says that the Syrian official overseeing

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the evacuation says it has been suspended because of obstructions.

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Those reports coming through that the evacuation of eastern Aleppo has

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been suspended, we will check out those reports and keep you updated.

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Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

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If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.

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This is our last programme before we break for Christmas.

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I love your Christmas jumper! I think it is great, it has bells on

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it. It makes a noise, can you hear that? The best part is, wait for

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this... Not only does it have bells, can you see is lighting up? That is

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quality, brilliant. Only nine days until Christmas, but I'm here to

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talk about sports, not my Christmas jumper. The cricketers have just

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come back after tea where England are hoping for a win in the fifth

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and final test in July against India. They have already lost the

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series, Captain Alastair Cook won the toss, decided to bat and did not

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start very well, England were 21-2 after Cook and opening partner

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Keaton Jennings were dismissed. Joe Root Moeen Ali fared better, taking

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the run tally to an hundred and 67 before Root was controversially

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given out on 88, he was not happy at all, walked off the pitch shaking

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his head. He had been judged to have got an edge on the board. Ali is on

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63 and has been joined at the crease by Jonny Bairstow, England on 187-3

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in the final session of the day. There's news of a potential

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replacement for Nico His name is Valtteri Bottas, he

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drives for Williams but they say they will be prepared to let him

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leave his contract if they can find a credible alternative, as they put

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it, to replace him. Nico Rosberg won the world title and shocked everyone

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in the sport by retiring five days later. Valtteri Bottas could be

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Lewis Hamilton's new Mercedes team-mate. It is a brilliant

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opportunity for him, the 27 air Finn has had nine podium finishes but is

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yet to win a race, his best position in the drivers championship is

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fourth so it is interesting to see how he would develop with a leading

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team like Mercedes. Mercedes say they will not announce anything

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official about the new Jallow -- new driver until January the 3rd at the

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earliest. And Ronnie O'Sullivan is going well

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at the Scottish Open snooker? Through to the quarterfinals in

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Glasgow and will play a very informed John Higgins, who won two

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yaks -- won two matches yesterday without losing a single frame.

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Sullivan beat Mark Allen by four frames to two, scoring two century

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breaks to seal his place in the last eight. The last time O'Sullivan and

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Higgins played each other last month, Higgins won 10-7, so The Rock

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At might be out for revenge as he looks to add to the Masters and

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Welsh open title that he has already won.

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Thank you, Jessica, I am sorry I did not wear my Christmas jumper, but

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yours is better than my next Sergeant Alexander Blackman

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will today find out if he will be granted bail as he awaits an appeal

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against his conviction for murdering His legal team and many high-profile

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supporters say he suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder at

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the time. In a moment we'll be speaking

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to Sergeant Blackman's wife Claire. But first our correspondent

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Robert Hall explains A helmet camera, worn by a member

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of Marine Sergeant Al Blackman's squad, captures the moment they find

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a wounded insurgent, one of two men who'd

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attacked their base. At his court-martial,

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Sergeant Blackman was told he'd disgraced the name of

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the British Armed Forces. He spent the past three years

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at Erlestoke prison in Wiltshire as family and supporters argue that

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Sergeant Blackman's mental state and weaknesses in the prosecution

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case mean the murder Had he been charged with

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manslaughter, on the technicality of making a bad mistake,

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but nevertheless a mistake, he would probably have

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got three or so years. Halve it for good behaviour,

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he'd be out already. But others believe that even

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in the brutal combat of Afghanistan, the laws of warfare

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must be adhered to. The fact remains, what he did

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was break the Geneva Convention by shooting a wounded prisoner

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and that is absolutely wrong in all circumstances,

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unless you can show that An appeal against conviction is many

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months away but Sergeant Blackman's family say release

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on bail should be considered for a hugely experienced soldier

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who is not a criminal Let's talk now to his

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wife Claire Blackman. Thank you for joining us. How are

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you feeling ahead of the bail hearing today? A bit nervous, if I'm

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honest. It's a big day but we will find out this afternoon. Have you

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been able to speak to him to see how he's feeling today? Yes, I spoke to

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him last night. He was on good form. He is also trying to manage his

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expectations. He's hopeful but not getting carried away. It would be

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unusual for a person convicted of murder to be allowed out on bail

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pending a hearing. Why do you think he should be allowed out on bail? We

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have quite a strong case, we think, for bail. The legal team have worked

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hard to put together a strong application. We just need to be able

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to convince the judges this afternoon. How often do you manage

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to speak to him? Pretty much every evening. And how is he? He is good,

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he is incredible, I don't know how he does it but he keeps his spirits

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up and keeps busy. Tell us more about how this has impacted on you

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and your family? Obviously it has been really hard, I suppose in a way

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being the wife of a Royal Marines who has served on as many tours as

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he has we are used to the time apart. This is obviously exceptional

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and it would be really nice to think that this afternoon we could have

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him home and have some time back together.

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You and your husband do have a lot of support in this but equally there

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will be people who say, well, what about the family of the man he

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killed? He killed a man. What do you say? You know, it's difficult,

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everybody's entitled to their opinion and I don't for one minute

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wish to diminish the impact on anybody's family, where somebody has

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lost. But this was war, it was exceptional circumstances. You and I

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will fortunately never experience that. I don't think we can,

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therefore, really understand what happened. The judge said he killed

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in cold blood. It was a difficult trial and there were many things

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that were said and the CCRC's decision now to go back and look

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over that trial and look at the many things that didn't happen and should

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have happened is what gives us the most hope that actually we can move

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this case forward now. It is focusing on his state of mind

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at the time? That is one of the main arguments,

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as we understand it. Tell us more about him. I asked how

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it has impacted on you and the family. What about him?

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Well, I think, to be honest, the training that Royal Marines receive

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has set him up well to cope with the environment that he's in. He's happy

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with the regime, he is happy with discipline, he's making the best of

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his time, he is working, he's studying, he's doing a degree and

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he's going to the gym as much as he can. He's doing everything he can to

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keep positive and pass the time. What happens after today? Obviously

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today it's possible he will be released on bail and will be home

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with you just prior to your wedding anniversary. Yes. Equally he may not

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be. Yes, and I suppose the best way for us to look at it is that bail

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would be the icing on the cake. The biggest, most important decision we

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have had is the referral back to the Appeal Courts, that's the important

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thing we need to focus on. Bail would be wonderful, absolutely, but

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getting back to the Appeal Courts and getting the conviction and the

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sentence potentially overturned is our main focus.

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We have talked about the level of support that you have had. Four

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people have come forward to stump up ?50,000 each in bail money. That's

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obviously a sort of financial offer, an offer of financial assistance,

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how much has that support and other support you have received actually

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meant to you? It's incredible. I find it really

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hard to put into words what a difference that support makes, to

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feel like the whole country is behind us, just gives as energy and

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motivation to keep going. What's your life like on a daily

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basis? Do you just kind of carry on as you were before?

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I have settled into a routine. It's obviously not the routine I would

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choose but it's fine. I have fantastic support from family and

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friends and I have plenty to do with the campaign. It keeps me busy.

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Thank you very much indeed for coming in to talk to us, Claire

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Blackman. Thank you. We will cover what happens at that hearing today

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and let you know the outcome on BBC News.

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Five years ago Rupert Ross was jailed for life for murder along

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with another man. The victim was Darcy Austin Bruce Forsyth he was

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shot five times at close range outside Wandsworth prison in south

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London but Rupert Ross's mother thought her son had been wrongfully

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convicted and set about trying to prove it. She wanted to find out the

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identity of a woman who gave evidence anonymously against Ross at

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his trial which meant obtaining confidential details of the witness

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from a police database. Two civilian police staff who accessed the

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computer were found guilty. His girlfriend and her will be sentenced

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next month. But Diana was cleared off the two juries failed to reach

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verdicts on her. In her first interview she has been speaking to

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our home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw.

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Why did you take the risk of going to prison? I started looking into,

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after Rupert and Leon's conviction, I sat down and I started reading the

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papers, the legal papers and Rupert and Leon had always said to me that

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they did not do the murder. And you believe them?

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100%, 100%. There had been cracks in the trial, stuff that was not

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disclosed, and stuff that Rupert and Leon had always said this doesn't

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seem right, this doesn't seem right. So I started investigating and

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looking into certain things to see if what they said was not correct,

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well, not correct, but wasn't accurate. You had doubts about the

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convictions, serious doubts. Yes. But most people who have a loved one

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who think they have been wrongly convicted don't go to the lengths

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that you went to and don't risk wrecking the law and being sent to

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jail for it. Why did you do that? A copy of an image was shown at

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Rupert's trial that wasn't clear so I wanted the original image from the

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camera. And I got nowhere. I hired private detectives, I had face

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recognition experts, I went to other experts to enhance the CCTV. I went

:24:51.:24:53.

from door to door knocking on people's doors asking if the police

:24:54.:24:59.

had ever asked for their CCTV. I felt that the investigation that the

:25:00.:25:06.

police had done at the time was inadequate. It didn't seem like they

:25:07.:25:12.

had fully investigated every avenue. So at what point, after you had

:25:13.:25:17.

taken all of the steps, did it occur to you that actually you might have

:25:18.:25:24.

to do something completely underhand here and find out the details of an

:25:25.:25:28.

anonymous witness at Rupert Ross's trial?

:25:29.:25:34.

At the trial there had been an independent anonymous witness who

:25:35.:25:40.

had gone in as an independent witness, and it was only when we had

:25:41.:25:48.

changed the legal team for the appeal that I've actually met with a

:25:49.:25:57.

QC who been at the trial who said the anonymous witness is more key

:25:58.:26:03.

than what you're doing. So you have to find more details about the

:26:04.:26:08.

anonymous witness? He said you need to discredit the anonymous witness.

:26:09.:26:12.

How can you do that if they are anonymous? I started off by asking

:26:13.:26:19.

on the street. Fulham is a huge hub of people and I asked around, and I

:26:20.:26:27.

had actually been given names of certain people. And then Leon who

:26:28.:26:39.

had gone out with Lydia Lauro, had given me some names to give to her

:26:40.:26:48.

to look up the names. You must have realised at that point that what

:26:49.:26:53.

that entailed was against the law, was against police rules and against

:26:54.:26:58.

the law? I don't think I realised the enormity of the seriousness of

:26:59.:27:05.

it. But you did it nonetheless? Yes. Yes. But you felt justified in doing

:27:06.:27:13.

it at that time? 100%. Curse you had tried all other avenues? Absolutely.

:27:14.:27:19.

-- because you have tried all other avenues. Some people might say that

:27:20.:27:22.

is all very well but that witness was anonymous for a reason. When we

:27:23.:27:26.

actually found out that it wasn't an independent witness, but she did

:27:27.:27:32.

have connections with people close to the murder, I think that's quite

:27:33.:27:39.

shocking that the police had held all of this back. But you discovered

:27:40.:27:42.

that information after you found out the name illicitly. Yes. And two

:27:43.:27:50.

innocent people had gone to prison. But some people would say that

:27:51.:27:56.

balancing your right to investigate miscarriages of justice with the

:27:57.:27:59.

right of the criminal justice system to keep some witnesses who come

:28:00.:28:03.

forward anonymous to safeguard their identity because they are scared or

:28:04.:28:07.

vulnerable and that happens in other cases as well. I don't think

:28:08.:28:09.

anonymous witnesses are used that often. In my trial, the trial was

:28:10.:28:17.

opened up that it was rare to use the anonymous witness. I imagine it

:28:18.:28:24.

is quite a dangerous thing to do to use anonymous witnesses. Now you've

:28:25.:28:29.

got the information about that witness's identity and some

:28:30.:28:32.

background details, where does that leave your son's case? The legal

:28:33.:28:37.

people are now going to take the information that we have received

:28:38.:28:42.

through my two trials to the CCRC. Criminal Cases Review Commission?

:28:43.:28:48.

That's correct. You hope to get a fresh appeal? Yes. The judgment was

:28:49.:28:54.

very decisive against them. Yes, because they haven't been given all

:28:55.:28:58.

of it, they had only been given a percentage of the information. IU

:28:59.:29:01.

hopeful that the conviction will be quashed? Yes. It is a shame that

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this has to happen. To find out the truth. I think it's really sad. --

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are you hopeful. We will be live until 11am as usual

:29:13.:29:18.

and also we will have the latest from Eastern Aleppo live. There is a

:29:19.:29:21.

report that the evacuation of citizens has been suspended after

:29:22.:29:24.

four blasts were heard at a location from where buses had been departing.

:29:25.:29:30.

Plus, an extra special Christmas for two and a half -year-old Ben Cooper.

:29:31.:29:33.

Around this time last year he was undergoing emergency surgery on his

:29:34.:29:39.

brain after being critically ill with meningitis. We will be joined

:29:40.:29:43.

by Ben, his mum and his brother and the surgeon who saved Ben's life.

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Let's catch up with all the news within Eton. -- Annita McVeigh. It

:29:49.:29:59.

has been reported in the last half-hour that the evacuation of

:30:00.:30:03.

civilians and fighters from the Syrian city of Aleppo has halted.

:30:04.:30:06.

Around three thousand people, including hundreds of children,

:30:07.:30:08.

were transported out of the city yesterday.

:30:09.:30:10.

It's thought there are 50,000 people still waiting to leave.

:30:11.:30:12.

President Barack Obama has said the US will take action

:30:13.:30:15.

against Russia for what he calls "interfering in the US election".

:30:16.:30:17.

The White House has said the Russian President,

:30:18.:30:19.

Vladimir Putin, knew about the hacking of

:30:20.:30:21.

Democratic Party email accounts during the campaign.

:30:22.:30:23.

The Kremlin says the claims are nonsense.

:30:24.:30:25.

A Royal Marine found guilty of murdering an injured Afghan

:30:26.:30:28.

fighter is today asking senior judges to grant him bail.

:30:29.:30:32.

Sergeant Alexander Blackman - known as Marine A -

:30:33.:30:35.

was jailed in 2013 and sentenced to life imprisonment

:30:36.:30:37.

He has been granted the right to appeal his conviction.

:30:38.:30:45.

Theresa May has told EU leaders that she wants an early agreement

:30:46.:30:48.

on the status of British people living on the continent,

:30:49.:30:51.

She was talking ahead of the latest Brexit talks in Brussels.

:30:52.:30:57.

The leaders of the other 27 member states agreed

:30:58.:31:05.

There has been concern in other countries about the status of their

:31:06.:31:10.

National 's in the country when it leaves the EU.

:31:11.:31:11.

The leaders of the other 27 member states agreed

:31:12.:31:13.

that the European Parliament would have a formal role

:31:14.:31:16.

Thousands of Southern rail commuters are facing more disruption

:31:17.:31:19.

after talks aimed at resolving the dispute ended without agreement.

:31:20.:31:21.

Drivers on the network began a 24-hour stoppage at midnight.

:31:22.:31:24.

Passengers have already endured two days of disruption this week

:31:25.:31:26.

and last night fed up commuters held protests outside the

:31:27.:31:28.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10am.

:31:29.:31:39.

See you later. Let's catch up with the latest sports with Jess.

:31:40.:31:49.

England's cricketers are playing for pride in the fifth and final test in

:31:50.:31:56.

India. Moeen Ali and true roots steadied the ship, Root was

:31:57.:31:59.

controversially given out and 88. The visitors are currently 208-3.

:32:00.:32:01.

Valtteri Bottas is being lined up to replace retired world champion

:32:02.:32:04.

Williams say they are prepared to release the 27-year-old

:32:05.:32:07.

is an experienced, credible alternative is available.

:32:08.:32:11.

Ronnie O'Sullivan is through to the quarter-finals

:32:12.:32:15.

of the Scottish Open snooker in Glasgow.

:32:16.:32:17.

He'll now play a very in-form John Higgins who won two matches

:32:18.:32:21.

I will be back with a bit more sport at around 10am. And the twinkly

:32:22.:32:36.

jumper is still in action! Thank you.

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This morning an exclusive interview with the mother of two-and-a-half

:32:38.:32:40.

year old Ben Cooper, who had a life-saving operation

:32:41.:32:42.

in Great Ormond Street Hospital last Christmas.

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Ben had just started to take his first steps

:32:44.:32:46.

when he became critically ill with meningitis.

:32:47.:32:47.

While most people were spending Christmas day opening presents

:32:48.:32:49.

with their loved ones, Ben had emergency

:32:50.:32:51.

After three months in hospital, Ben is now back at home

:32:52.:32:56.

and Christmas will be an extra special celebration

:32:57.:32:58.

Ben's here today with his mum Viki and his twin brother James.

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And we're reuniting them with Mr Owase Jeelani -

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the neurosurgeon who saved Ben's life on Christmas Day -

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who's at Great Ormond Street hospital working this morning.

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We will talk to him as well. Thank you so much for coming in, it is

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great to see your wall. Hello, boys. Tell us, Fed, you had obviously an

:33:27.:33:30.

absolutely dreadful time last Christmas because both of the boys

:33:31.:33:35.

had been poorly, but it was really Ben who took a turn for the worse?

:33:36.:33:41.

We just assume that we had a cop/ cold going on with everybody,

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unfortunately in a couple of days Ben deteriorated, it is clear he was

:33:47.:33:50.

not his usual self, he became quite subdued and we sought additional

:33:51.:33:55.

help. Unfortunately, they thought it was a virus, it was a few days

:33:56.:33:59.

before we realise the extent of how seriously are all he was. It was

:34:00.:34:05.

meningitis. None of the classic symptoms? No, it was that viral

:34:06.:34:09.

meningitis and there was no rash or anything you would expect to see, he

:34:10.:34:14.

became more and more unwell until he was unresponsive, we could not get

:34:15.:34:17.

him to wake up, talk or respond in any way, so we called an ambulance.

:34:18.:34:31.

You ended up in Great Ormond Street? Within 24 hours, yes. At the local

:34:32.:34:33.

hospital they were doing everything they could to understand, but when

:34:34.:34:35.

they said Great Ormond Street are coming to collect Ben, that is when

:34:36.:34:38.

I knew it was quite serious. They don't have many children in their

:34:39.:34:41.

intensive care unit, if my child is one of the sickest in the country,

:34:42.:34:46.

it is serious. Horrendous, how did you feel? Terrified, we thought we

:34:47.:34:51.

would lose him. It was Christmas Eve when he really took a turn for the

:34:52.:34:55.

worse and had swelling on the brain? At that stage he had come out of the

:34:56.:34:59.

induced coma and it looked as though things were recovering OK, on

:35:00.:35:02.

Christmas Eve, things were going well for the first part of the

:35:03.:35:07.

evening, I stayed over, the tension is spent part of Christmas with Ben

:35:08.:35:13.

and part with James, it was difficult to juggle. But the nurse

:35:14.:35:17.

woke me up and said, he has gone downhill, I have called the doctor,

:35:18.:35:20.

I think we might have the problem. That was the start of a very, very

:35:21.:35:27.

difficult 204I was. What were you told before his surgery? That there

:35:28.:35:31.

was fluid building on the brain, they needed to relieve the pressure

:35:32.:35:35.

and the easiest way was to do surgery straightaway. Obviously they

:35:36.:35:39.

did not have plans for surgery on Christmas Day, they do not intended,

:35:40.:35:46.

so it was calling people from home to help Ben, which was very scary.

:35:47.:35:53.

Owase, you wouldn't know it -- the neurosurgeon who performed that

:35:54.:35:59.

surgery. When you arrived at hospital, what were your thoughts on

:36:00.:36:02.

how serious the situation was for Ben?

:36:03.:36:08.

It is good to have Ben again. Ben was in a critical condition when he

:36:09.:36:15.

came to us. The meningitis was clearly full-blown at that time. He

:36:16.:36:20.

needed a lot of supportive management to stabilise him. A lot

:36:21.:36:24.

of the complications that can occur with meningitis is raised pressure

:36:25.:36:27.

in the head, which can be life-threatening if untreated. We

:36:28.:36:33.

have seen this scenario with the children, when we were told about

:36:34.:36:36.

Ben and had been monitoring him it was clear that he needed urgent

:36:37.:36:41.

intervention to treat the pressure. Failure to do that could potentially

:36:42.:36:45.

be catastrophic. It is never an easy time to be at

:36:46.:36:49.

Great Ormond Street for children of families, these are often very sick

:36:50.:36:53.

children, particularly at Christmas time when we are meant to be at home

:36:54.:36:58.

with the families, loved ones. That has an extra layer of, I suppose,

:36:59.:37:06.

complexity of emotions. Great Ormond Street runs 24/7, the nature of the

:37:07.:37:10.

workers that there are specialist teams, allied health care

:37:11.:37:15.

professionals available 24/7, Christmas is no exception. Kids like

:37:16.:37:28.

Ben fall ill at Christmas and need help and care. From the standpoint

:37:29.:37:30.

of you, everybody is in a Christmas mood and it is that extra feeling

:37:31.:37:33.

that we are trying to give and do our best for the families and

:37:34.:37:36.

children under our care on Christmas Day, it is part of the Christmas

:37:37.:37:39.

spirit. Viki, I don't think you have spoken to Owase since the surgery? I

:37:40.:37:43.

don't think so. It is good to bring you back together, what would you

:37:44.:37:48.

like to say? I can't thank him and the team enough, they have given us

:37:49.:37:52.

Ben back, there was a stage where we did not think that would happen.

:37:53.:37:55.

They are wonderful at the hospital, they really are. It is an absolute

:37:56.:38:01.

pleasure to be able to help in any way that we can add to see Ben doing

:38:02.:38:09.

so well is an absolute pleasure. It must be nice to see what happens

:38:10.:38:15.

sometime after the surgery, you are performing life-saving surgery all

:38:16.:38:18.

the time and impacting on lives in ways that it is sometimes difficult

:38:19.:38:23.

to keep track of, I guess? It is precisely this that keeps us

:38:24.:38:28.

going, it is very challenging work, working with young children, very

:38:29.:38:32.

sick children, seeing kids recover like Ben has and carry on and lead

:38:33.:38:37.

fulfilling lives, it gives is the energy to keep going, dealing with

:38:38.:38:45.

such cases. Hell is Ben? Doing very well, he has recently started

:38:46.:38:48.

school, which is quite young at two and a half, but he is in a special

:38:49.:38:52.

school with a very supportive environment and lots of therapy. A

:38:53.:38:57.

little bit of his hearing has come back, he has got a cochlear device

:38:58.:39:02.

fitted, he is using his hands in a way he has not before Anders

:39:03.:39:07.

vocalising and trying to communicate, positive things

:39:08.:39:09.

happening, we have a long way to go but he is doing very, very well. He

:39:10.:39:15.

has a bright future ahead. He is a happy boy, all I can hope is that he

:39:16.:39:20.

enjoyed life coming he clearly is. How has James been about it? His

:39:21.:39:25.

twin? Because they were so young when it happened, he does not

:39:26.:39:29.

remember life before. From James' point of view, this is how things

:39:30.:39:33.

are with Ben. His first thought when he comes from preschool or the

:39:34.:39:38.

childminder is Ben, he rushes to him and is keen to see him. Thank you

:39:39.:39:43.

darling, that is very helpful. Come and sit me.

:39:44.:39:49.

Ben has had a lot of surgery since the life-saving surgery, will that

:39:50.:39:53.

up to continue? Hopefully not too much, he has had several pieces of

:39:54.:39:56.

surgery on his brain but we hope there will not be too much more,

:39:57.:40:01.

there is also surgery, he has a tube for feeding and medication due to be

:40:02.:40:04.

put into his stomach eventually. He might have to have hip surgery, the

:40:05.:40:10.

cerebral palsy means his hips are not in position, that will worsen as

:40:11.:40:16.

he gets older. He was only working for one month -- walking for one

:40:17.:40:19.

month so his hips had not really formed, we are not sure whether he

:40:20.:40:22.

will be able to get back upright. He can't sit or hold his head about the

:40:23.:40:26.

moment but we are working on that with physio and he is showing signs

:40:27.:40:31.

of supporting his own head, who knows where he will end up? He has

:40:32.:40:35.

little seizures which distract from everything he is trying to do at the

:40:36.:40:41.

time. Some of his site is coming back, it is evolving? He is still

:40:42.:40:45.

recovering from meningitis, I have heard that the damage to the brain

:40:46.:40:49.

from the meningitis and the recovery period can take up to two McCready

:40:50.:40:53.

is, he is only two and a heart so his brain is just about thing

:40:54.:40:57.

anyway. The two things are in parallel so I think it will be a few

:40:58.:41:01.

years before we know what he can do and where he will end up, in terms

:41:02.:41:05.

of ability. Surgery is not scheduled on

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Christmas Day, but life happens. How often are you called in on Christmas

:41:11.:41:17.

Day? It's interesting, quite often.

:41:18.:41:20.

Within the neurosurgery department there would always be 18, 20 four

:41:21.:41:26.

sevenths, present at the hospital, and the consultants would always

:41:27.:41:29.

come in every day of the year to do rounds and see the patient. If

:41:30.:41:33.

emergency surgery needs to take place, there was always a consultant

:41:34.:41:38.

available. It is the nature of the work and the critical nature of the

:41:39.:41:41.

children that we need to provide that work. As I mentioned, it is

:41:42.:41:48.

really seeing kids recover which really just gives us all the energy

:41:49.:41:53.

to carry on year-on-year, on Christmas Day, the other days, it is

:41:54.:41:58.

an absolute pleasure to see how well Ben is doing.

:41:59.:42:02.

Viki, very different Christmas for you? We are really looking forward

:42:03.:42:05.

to it, not least because the boys are starting to understand. Someone

:42:06.:42:09.

is very excited and talks about it all the time, it will be lovely to

:42:10.:42:13.

have him at home and not do the juggling act and wondering what will

:42:14.:42:18.

happen every day at the hospital, I am looking forward rather than

:42:19.:42:22.

worrying about the day-to-day stuff. James, are you excited about

:42:23.:42:26.

Christmas? Are you looking forward to seeing Father Christmas? Yes. Had

:42:27.:42:33.

you asked for lots of presents? I don't think he understands the

:42:34.:42:39.

concept. He will when he gets them! It is great to talk to you all. Have

:42:40.:42:43.

a lovely Christmas. Thank you. Coming up, I've been speaking

:42:44.:42:46.

to Judy Murray about the incredible We also talked about her hopes

:42:47.:42:48.

for her granddaughter, the weather in Scotland and why

:42:49.:42:52.

she works so tirelessly to get Let's bring you up to date with

:42:53.:42:55.

Aleppo. There are reports an operation

:42:56.:43:10.

to evacuate civilians and rebel fighters from the eastern parts

:43:11.:43:13.

of the Syrian city of Aleppo Syrian officials have accused

:43:14.:43:15.

the rebel side of breaching According to the Russian defence

:43:16.:43:18.

ministry, more than six thousand people have left Aleppo

:43:19.:43:22.

since the operation We caught up with Zouhir Al Shimale

:43:23.:43:24.

earlier this week, who's a freelance He's posted this update

:43:25.:43:31.

on social media as he waited This is the last message I'm

:43:32.:43:35.

going to send from here. As you can see in the background,

:43:36.:43:46.

cars are heading to the area It's heartbreaking sending

:43:47.:43:55.

the last message for me, from my neighbourhood where I used

:43:56.:44:00.

to live and report A group of doctors is taking medical

:44:01.:44:02.

equipment to help build a hospital. It is hoped the hospital will help

:44:03.:44:25.

treat thousands of children Also travelling with her is British

:44:26.:44:40.

journalist Paul Conroy, he was injured in an attack in the Syrian

:44:41.:44:49.

city of Jess in 2012. -- city of Homs.

:44:50.:44:52.

We can also speak to two aid workers currently looking after Syrian

:44:53.:44:55.

refugees in the middle east - Dr Renee Bou raad in Beirut

:44:56.:44:58.

This was your idea, three weeks ago you had the idea that you wanted to

:44:59.:45:04.

get a crowdfunding campaign together to build a hospital? What made you

:45:05.:45:08.

think of doing that? It was approximately three weeks ago when

:45:09.:45:12.

the last remaining five hospitals in eastern Aleppo were bombed, I felt

:45:13.:45:16.

so incredibly devastated, I felt like I had lost a family member.

:45:17.:45:20.

I've been working on the humanitarian response in Syria in

:45:21.:45:23.

the last five years, this is the sixth hospital I am involved in

:45:24.:45:34.

building in Syria, I was so devastated at the tragedy of these

:45:35.:45:37.

war crimes, bombing a hospital is a war crime. We have documented over

:45:38.:45:40.

380 of them. I knew that so many people were feeling the

:45:41.:45:41.

powerlessness and devastation of wanting to do something for Syria

:45:42.:45:44.

but there was nothing to get behind, I wanted a bold, positive action,

:45:45.:45:49.

that is where the idea came from that I wanted to bring to life the

:45:50.:45:53.

issue of bombing of hospitals, so by building a new hospital, the last

:45:54.:45:58.

Children's Hospital in Aleppo was bombed, that's why a children's

:45:59.:46:02.

hospital was needed, and I thought that the governments were really

:46:03.:46:05.

failing. People want to and can act, this is our way of doing it. It was

:46:06.:46:08.

incredible. What are the logistics, how will you

:46:09.:46:19.

do it? Amazingly we raised over ?92,000 in eight days. So that will

:46:20.:46:24.

go to build a whole new hospital in the Aleppo countryside. We are

:46:25.:46:26.

taking on Saturday all of the equipment that will go to the

:46:27.:46:33.

hospital, ventilators, incubators, cots, stethoscopes, everything you

:46:34.:46:35.

need for a hospital and we will travel across Europe with it as a

:46:36.:46:40.

show of solidarity and support to the phenomenal and courageous Syrian

:46:41.:46:44.

doctors and humanitarians and we will hand over the equipment to the

:46:45.:46:48.

Syrian NGO independent doctors Association and they were set up the

:46:49.:46:52.

hospital so they will then take the equipment over the border from

:46:53.:46:57.

Turkey into Syria and setting of the hospital. As we speak we have been

:46:58.:47:00.

getting reports that the ceasefire in Aleppo, which has enabled people

:47:01.:47:05.

to be taken out of Eastern Aleppo in convoys has ended. The United

:47:06.:47:11.

Nations is now confirming that the operation to evacuate people from

:47:12.:47:16.

eastern Aleppo has ended. Elizabeth Hough, the UN representative in

:47:17.:47:19.

Syria, has just spoken at a news conference in Geneva a short while

:47:20.:47:24.

ago. Let's hear what she said. A few minutes ago the operation was

:47:25.:47:29.

aborted and the ICSC and WHO were informed to leave the area with

:47:30.:47:34.

ambulances and buses. No reason has been explained for

:47:35.:47:40.

this information. I would like to inform you that so far 147 patients

:47:41.:47:50.

have been received at the transit .2-macro. That's the confirmation

:47:51.:47:59.

that the ceasefire is over. Rola it underlines how changing the

:48:00.:48:05.

situation is, how volatile the situation is. You are obviously

:48:06.:48:10.

going to be going into this environment, this was on. You have

:48:11.:48:14.

been there before. Do you have concerns for your own safety? We

:48:15.:48:21.

will go to the Turkey- Syria border and colleagues will carry out the

:48:22.:48:25.

setting up of the hospital. Of course, being a doctor or a

:48:26.:48:28.

humanitarian has become one of the most dangerous jobs in the world,

:48:29.:48:32.

and certainly in Syria alongside being a journalist, and it just

:48:33.:48:35.

shows you the brutality and war crimes and scale of it that is

:48:36.:48:39.

happening. I am often getting asked that, aren't you worried that the

:48:40.:48:44.

hospital will get bombed, and the answer is absolutely, of course,

:48:45.:48:53.

that's ridiculous to say, hospital shouldn't be bombed, it is enshrined

:48:54.:48:55.

in humanitarian laws and that's why we need the United Nations and

:48:56.:48:58.

international community to put aside politics and ideologies and all of

:48:59.:49:00.

these things and say, there are international legal, moral and

:49:01.:49:04.

ethical standards that we need to uphold and these war crimes can't

:49:05.:49:07.

continue with impunity and it is only them provide the situation

:49:08.:49:11.

otherwise I fear for the lives of my colleagues every single day. Paul

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Conroy is a British journalist who will travel with the convoy. You

:49:17.:49:22.

were injured in Homs in Syria in 2012 in the same incident that

:49:23.:49:27.

killed Marie Colvin. You haven't been back. How are you feeling about

:49:28.:49:33.

going back? I'm feeling good about going back. I've spent five years

:49:34.:49:40.

from various hospital beds in England is doing what I can on the

:49:41.:49:46.

political side, on any side really, to keep the Syrian story on the news

:49:47.:49:55.

agenda. And when Roller called me to say do you want to take this convoy

:49:56.:50:01.

in I was delighted and instantly answered yes. With regards to the

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question you have just asked about the failed ceasefires and failed

:50:07.:50:11.

policies, don't forget we are sitting down and listening to people

:50:12.:50:18.

who are presidents, who in fact should be sitting behind jails and

:50:19.:50:25.

bars in the Hague and that is how close we are to finishing this

:50:26.:50:29.

conflict. We are no closer now than we were five years ago, and this

:50:30.:50:33.

government backed by Russia, backed by Iran, have no other policy other

:50:34.:50:41.

than to regain the whole of Syria no matter what cost. That cost is human

:50:42.:50:54.

life. You said that obviously you believe the hospital may well be

:50:55.:50:58.

targeted. What do you think you can achieve, if you go in and set

:50:59.:51:00.

something up and it's wiped out again? So, I think our job as medics

:51:01.:51:06.

and humanitarians is to save lives and we will not be stopped by war

:51:07.:51:10.

criminals from doing the life-saving work we need to do. I think that's

:51:11.:51:14.

the oath that we have taken as doctors and humanitarians to do

:51:15.:51:20.

that. Now we are calling upon everyone else, especially

:51:21.:51:25.

politicians, to do their job. It is our job to save lives and build

:51:26.:51:28.

hospitals but it is theirs to make sure hospitals don't get bombed. The

:51:29.:51:32.

fault is absolutely with the perpetrator and those who watch it

:51:33.:51:37.

and do nothing. I hold them responsible for the safety of my

:51:38.:51:42.

colleagues and of patients in the hospitals. I don't know if you have

:51:43.:51:45.

seen the images of hospitals being bombed while children are being

:51:46.:51:48.

treated by chemical attacks and chlorine gas attacks. It is a war

:51:49.:51:53.

crime laid upon a war crime and we are watching it all in real-time on

:51:54.:51:57.

our TV screens like a horror show and allowing it to continue. Renee

:51:58.:52:07.

Bou Raad, you work for Medecins Sans Frontieres in Aleppo. When people

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get to you after having gone through what they have enjoyed in Aleppo

:52:17.:52:19.

what sort of state are there in? Well, first of all, you can imagine

:52:20.:52:26.

these refugees first of all are fleeing immediate threat and danger

:52:27.:52:33.

to their own lives. They are packing anything they can get hold of. It

:52:34.:52:37.

could be basic clothing. Sometimes they don't even have their own

:52:38.:52:40.

personal documents with them and they are fleeing across the borders,

:52:41.:52:45.

so it could be a decision they take on the spot. Most of them come

:52:46.:52:49.

seeking shelter, they are in dire social economic need, they need

:52:50.:52:58.

health care, they need shelter. So it's a real humanitarian crisis for

:52:59.:53:08.

these refugees. The resilience that they have to have to get through

:53:09.:53:12.

having lived in that city for four years, seeing so much of it reduced

:53:13.:53:18.

to rubble, hospitals attacked, reports of chemical weapons attacks.

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The resilience must be extraordinary. Yes, absolutely. A

:53:21.:53:29.

lot of them, when you actually talk to some of the refugees and the

:53:30.:53:32.

patients in the clinics, most of them express the hope that one day

:53:33.:53:38.

they can return back to their country. But unfortunately, to what

:53:39.:53:43.

they are not sure they would be returning to. Most of their homes

:53:44.:53:47.

have been destroyed. But most of them, basically my now with the war

:53:48.:53:52.

going on for so long, really hope just to have a stable future for

:53:53.:53:58.

themselves and for their children as well, be that in Syria or anywhere

:53:59.:54:04.

else they can find. So they remain hopeful. Omar Gharebo, you are

:54:05.:54:12.

working in a refugee camp in Byzantium in Turkey. How many people

:54:13.:54:15.

are coming to you and what are the needs you are seeing? -- Gaziantep.

:54:16.:54:32.

More than 5000 are coming from Aleppo. They are coming to the city.

:54:33.:54:44.

All of the organisations are distributing refugees to other

:54:45.:54:56.

cities or other communities. We at Human Care and another organisation

:54:57.:55:07.

work hard to provide the needs of refugees coming from Aleppo, the

:55:08.:55:10.

needs of food, shelter or other needs. Paul Conroy, how important is

:55:11.:55:17.

it to you to be involved in this and to tell the story of what is

:55:18.:55:22.

happening there? Extremely important. Just going back to the

:55:23.:55:25.

point that these crimes have been going on for five years. Marie

:55:26.:55:30.

Colvin died reporting these crimes. This isn't a revelation what is

:55:31.:55:38.

happening, it has been documented for five years and the fact the

:55:39.:55:43.

international community has sat for five whole years. Can you imagine if

:55:44.:55:49.

there was a lone gunman going around London shooting people, the reaction

:55:50.:55:52.

there would be. And we are looking here at up to 500,000 people

:55:53.:55:57.

starved, killed, most of the population be housed, utter terror

:55:58.:56:05.

and chaos. The siege in Homs was medieval. They were starving, there

:56:06.:56:10.

was no water, there was no medicine. And what will happen, and I can

:56:11.:56:15.

guarantee this, and it sickens me to be able to guarantee it, that once

:56:16.:56:19.

the siege of Aleppo is completely broken, what happens then is all of

:56:20.:56:22.

those forces that were surrounding the town of Aleppo then open up and

:56:23.:56:27.

fan out into the countryside and what we have next is the scorched

:56:28.:56:31.

earth policy. They will go through that province and they will not be a

:56:32.:56:36.

building standing. And we will sit and watch it on television. The idea

:56:37.:56:45.

of being the opportunity to go back to in many ways repair debt, lots of

:56:46.:56:52.

people died getting out of Syria, and I feel to keep this story alive

:56:53.:56:55.

and keep this News going is very, very important to me. Thank you very

:56:56.:57:01.

much. I want to read out a couple of comments.

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The UK must allow full resettlement of all Aleppo refugees and full NHS

:57:06.:57:10.

medical treatment. Sydney e-mailed: huge respect for the work being done

:57:11.:57:13.

to help these poor people. Shame the great and good and those with

:57:14.:57:17.

responsibilities are still letting them and their own humanity down.

:57:18.:57:21.

Thank you for joining us. And good luck with the convoy.

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Coming up: the charity single recorded in the memory of murdered

:57:26.:57:29.

MP Jo Cox is released today. We will speak to two members of the London

:57:30.:57:33.

hospices choir also hoping for the top spot this year, and one of last

:57:34.:57:41.

year's winners from the NHS choir. Just to remind you, this is our last

:57:42.:57:44.

live programme for the Christmas break. We will be back on Tuesday

:57:45.:57:49.

3rd of January. In a moment we will have the news and sport but first

:57:50.:57:53.

let's catch up with the weather with Sarah Keith-Lucas.

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It has been a gloomy start, we have missed and fog patches around but

:57:58.:58:04.

not everywhere, there was some brightness out there. Here is a

:58:05.:58:08.

scene captured by a weather watcher in North Somerset, so certainly some

:58:09.:58:11.

spells of sunshine but for most of us it is a cloudy picture, that's

:58:12.:58:15.

because the cloud has been working in from the Atlantic, this weather

:58:16.:58:18.

front draped across northern and western parts of the country, clear

:58:19.:58:21.

spells for central and eastern areas but here we have mist and fog around

:58:22.:58:25.

through the morning. As we had through today the weather front will

:58:26.:58:29.

clear away from Northern Ireland, so the rain pushing away towards the

:58:30.:58:32.

east. Much of Scotland will see a pretty damp picture through much of

:58:33.:58:35.

the day. They return to brighter skies when the front clears to the

:58:36.:58:39.

east, across Northern Ireland and the west of Scotland, and improving

:58:40.:58:43.

picture. Central and eastern Scotland, cloudy with outbreaks of

:58:44.:58:46.

rain, nothing particularly heavy but the rain is slow-moving, and a few

:58:47.:58:50.

spots of rain in the north-west of England and north-west Wales.

:58:51.:58:54.

Further south across Wales, Devon, Cornwall, quite a lot of cloud and

:58:55.:58:58.

reasonably mild, 12 degrees or so, but not as mild as recent days. Dry

:58:59.:59:02.

with a little hazy sunshine breaking through across central and eastern

:59:03.:59:06.

parts of England when the fog clears. This evening and overnight

:59:07.:59:09.

the weather front makes its way further south across the country,

:59:10.:59:12.

tending to peter out as it does so, suggest a band of cloud, drizzle and

:59:13.:59:15.

mist and fog in the South once again. By tomorrow morning you have

:59:16.:59:20.

blue colours across Northern Ireland and Scotland, and it will be a

:59:21.:59:23.

frosty morning, something we have not seen for a little while across

:59:24.:59:26.

Northern Ireland and Scotland, also chilly across parts of the North of

:59:27.:59:29.

England. Further south a different feel, still the mild and murky air

:59:30.:59:35.

with quite a lot of cloud, mist and fog. Further north in many parts of

:59:36.:59:39.

the country have a pretty decent looking day, despite temperatures of

:59:40.:59:42.

six or 7 degrees, there will be sunshine to compensate for Stuckless

:59:43.:59:45.

in the way of sunshine further south but temperatures in double figures.

:59:46.:59:51.

The is looking quite, the weather front building from the south

:59:52.:59:54.

keeping weather fronts at bay in the far north, breezy with the odd

:59:55.:59:57.

shower across the far north of Scotland but elsewhere it is a quite

:59:58.:00:01.

picture through the day on Sunday. Again, we could see mist, frost and

:00:02.:00:04.

fog first thing and then variable amounts of cloud. There will be

:00:05.:00:08.

brightness breaking through at times so a usable date if you have plans

:00:09.:00:12.

command temperatures around eight or 9 degrees. It could be mild up

:00:13.:00:15.

towards the north-east of Scotland by the time we get a Sunday. Next

:00:16.:00:20.

week after that fairly quiet spell of whether things will turn much

:00:21.:00:23.

more unsettled into the lead up to Christmas. You can find more detail

:00:24.:00:27.

on the Weather for the Week Ahead by heading to our website.

:00:28.:00:31.

I'm Joanna Gosling, welcome to the programme.

:00:32.:00:34.

An operation to evacuate civilians and rebel fighters from the eastern

:00:35.:00:38.

parts of the Syrian city of Aleppo has been suspended.

:00:39.:00:43.

It's not yet clear what triggered the suspension - one unconfirmed

:00:44.:00:46.

report spoke of blasts being heard in the area where evacuees

:00:47.:00:55.

I spoke to Judy Murray about the incredible

:00:56.:01:03.

We also talked about her hopes for her granddaughter,

:01:04.:01:07.

the weather in Scotland and why she works so tirelessly to get

:01:08.:01:10.

I realise how much harder you have to make things work in women's Bart

:01:11.:01:15.

-- had to work to make things happen in women's sport than men's, and the

:01:16.:01:18.

majority of decision-makers, certainly within tennis, our guys.

:01:19.:01:24.

Strictly reaches its crescendo tomorrow night, we will be joined by

:01:25.:01:30.

one of the professionals and the former contestant infamously shot

:01:31.:01:33.

out of a cannon, Russell Grant, to talk about who they think will win.

:01:34.:01:35.

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:01:36.:01:38.

The evacuation of civilians and fighters from the Syrian city

:01:39.:01:43.

Reports on Syrian State Television say that rebels opened fire

:01:44.:01:47.

on a convoy at one of the crossing points of the rebel-held enclave.

:01:48.:01:50.

Around 3000 people, including hundreds of children,

:01:51.:01:52.

were transported out of the city yesterday.

:01:53.:01:56.

I World Health Organisation official has told reporters that a planned

:01:57.:02:02.

evacuation of the sick and wounded had been halted on the orders of

:02:03.:02:03.

Russian forces. It's thought there are 50,000 people

:02:04.:02:05.

still waiting to leave. President Barack Obama has said

:02:06.:02:09.

the US will take action against Russia for what he calls

:02:10.:02:11.

interfering in the US election. The White House has said Russian

:02:12.:02:24.

President Vladimir Putin knew about the hacking of Democratic Party

:02:25.:02:25.

e-mail accounts during the campaign. The Kremlin says the

:02:26.:02:27.

claims are nonsense. A Royal Marine found guilty

:02:28.:02:29.

of murdering an injured Afghan fighter is today asking senior

:02:30.:02:31.

judges to grant him bail. Sergeant Alexander Blackman -

:02:32.:02:33.

known as Marine A - was jailed in 2013 and sentenced

:02:34.:02:35.

to life imprisonment He has been granted the right

:02:36.:02:38.

to appeal his conviction. The Gambling Commission has fined

:02:39.:02:48.

the lottery operator Camelot It's after the company

:02:49.:02:50.

paid out prize money to a fraudster, without doing

:02:51.:02:53.

a thorough investigation. Most of the penalty represents

:02:54.:02:56.

the ?2.5 million that would have been given to good causes

:02:57.:02:58.

if the prize had not been paid. Camelot say they won't be appealing

:02:59.:03:06.

the decision. Theresa May has told EU leaders

:03:07.:03:10.

that she wants an early agreement on the status of British people

:03:11.:03:13.

living on the continent, She was talking ahead of the latest

:03:14.:03:15.

Brexit talks in Brussels. The leaders of the other 27

:03:16.:03:19.

member states agreed that the European Parliament

:03:20.:03:21.

would have a formal role That's a summary of the latest BBC

:03:22.:03:23.

News - more at 10.30am. Thank you very much, any two. --

:03:24.:03:32.

Anita This is our last programme before

:03:33.:03:40.

we break for Christmas. Do get in touch with us

:03:41.:03:42.

throughout the morning - If you text, you will be charged

:03:43.:03:46.

at the standard network rate. she is still sparkling, lovely!

:03:47.:03:50.

Good morning. They've just come back out after tea

:03:51.:03:56.

in Chennai where England's cricketers are playing for pride

:03:57.:03:58.

in the 5th and final Captain Alastair Cook won

:03:59.:04:01.

the toss and decided to bat. It didn't start well though -

:04:02.:04:05.

They were 21-2, after Cook and his opening partner

:04:06.:04:08.

Keaton Jennings were both dismissed. Joe Root and Moeen Ali took

:04:09.:04:10.

the run tally up to 167, before Root was controversially

:04:11.:04:15.

given out on 88. The Yorkshireman livid to have

:04:16.:04:19.

been judged to have got He kicked the boundary as he left.

:04:20.:04:30.

England have moved on to 241-3 in the final session of the day, Ali is

:04:31.:04:34.

on 87, Jonny Bairstow on 45. Valterri Bottas is in line

:04:35.:04:35.

to become Lewis Hamilton's new Mercedes team mate,

:04:36.:04:38.

to replace retired world The Williams team have said they'd

:04:39.:04:39.

be willing to release Bottas IF they can find a "credible

:04:40.:04:43.

alternative", as they put it, 27-year-old Bottas has been

:04:44.:04:47.

on the podium 9 times in his career, but is

:04:48.:04:51.

yet to win a race. And his best finish in

:04:52.:04:53.

the Drivers Championship is fourth. Mercedes say they won't be making

:04:54.:04:55.

any official announcements about their new driver,

:04:56.:04:59.

until the 3rd of January Ronnie O'Sullivan is through

:05:00.:05:01.

to the quarter-finals He'll now play a very

:05:02.:05:04.

in-form John Higgins, who won two matches yesterday

:05:05.:05:09.

without losing a frame. The five-time world champion

:05:10.:05:17.

O'Sullivan, beat fellow Englishman Mark Allen

:05:18.:05:18.

by four frames to two, O'Sullivan and Higgins last played

:05:19.:05:20.

each other last month in the Champions of Champions final

:05:21.:05:26.

where Higgins won 10-7. That's all the sport now, I will be

:05:27.:05:40.

back with the headlines and my sparkly Christmas jumper at just

:05:41.:05:43.

after half past. Thank you, see you later. We will

:05:44.:05:48.

keep you updated on Aleppo. It has been confirmed that the evacuation

:05:49.:05:52.

operation to get civilians out of eastern Aleppo has been suspended,

:05:53.:05:58.

not entirely clear why. But buses were able to take civilians and

:05:59.:06:04.

children and injured people and also rebels out of eastern Aleppo

:06:05.:06:07.

yesterday on buses, but that operation has been suspended this

:06:08.:06:12.

morning, we will keep you updated on the latest.

:06:13.:06:15.

Now, it has been quite a year for the Murrays. Andy and brother Jamie

:06:16.:06:20.

were both ranked number one, Andy in the men's singles and Jamie in the

:06:21.:06:23.

doubles. Andy became a dad for the first time at Cheney received an

:06:24.:06:28.

OBE. Two Brothers achieving this agenda senior will make for family

:06:29.:06:33.

harmony and no and no fighting this Christmas, according to them. I

:06:34.:06:37.

spoke about their remarkable achievements and why she is

:06:38.:06:40.

desperate for some long-awaited family time, and to find out more

:06:41.:06:44.

about her ongoing campaign to get more young girls into tennis. I

:06:45.:06:47.

asked her why she thinks that girls are reluctant.

:06:48.:06:57.

The programme that I set up is called Miss-Hits,

:06:58.:06:59.

and it's a fun and starter programme for girls aged five to eight.

:07:00.:07:02.

I realised when I was just started doing the Fed Cup captain job,

:07:03.:07:05.

which is basically captaining the women's team, that we have a big

:07:06.:07:08.

problem in getting girls into our sport.

:07:09.:07:10.

There's so many other things now competing for little girls'

:07:11.:07:12.

attention that our sport was, when we did the research, it was,

:07:13.:07:15.

"I don't like tennis because it's too difficult",

:07:16.:07:17.

"I don't like tennis because I get cold", ie it's outside,

:07:18.:07:20.

"I don't like tennis because I don't like being

:07:21.:07:23.

Boys are more noisy and more physical, more

:07:24.:07:26.

So we looked at all the things that were maybe barriers or things that

:07:27.:07:31.

would put girls off, and realised that we have

:07:32.:07:33.

to make our sport more fun, more stimulating,

:07:34.:07:35.

So I set about creating a programme to try and solve that,

:07:36.:07:40.

but the other problem that it will start to solve

:07:41.:07:43.

is it is delivered by female coaches and could also be delivered

:07:44.:07:46.

by non-coaches, it could be delivered by teachers

:07:47.:07:49.

or mums or students, because we significantly have

:07:50.:07:51.

to increase our female coach workforce, in order to retain more

:07:52.:07:54.

Simply because girls are different from boys,

:07:55.:08:01.

and female teachers and coaches understand better how girls tick.

:08:02.:08:05.

Just prior to coming along to meet us you were at

:08:06.:08:12.

the Lawn Tennis Association talking about these sorts of issues.

:08:13.:08:15.

Why do you feel it incumbent on you to be pushing this stuff?

:08:16.:08:19.

Because you spend a huge amount of time doing it, don't you?

:08:20.:08:22.

I think obviously when I was doing the Fed Cup job, I stopped doing

:08:23.:08:27.

that in February this year, but I realised how much harder

:08:28.:08:30.

you have to work to make things happen on the women's side of any

:08:31.:08:34.

sport, compared to the men's, and also very aware that

:08:35.:08:37.

the majority of the decision-makers, certainly within our sport,

:08:38.:08:40.

They don't necessarily realise that dealing with girls and women

:08:41.:08:48.

We tick in completely different ways.

:08:49.:08:54.

So if I can explain that a little bit better...

:08:55.:08:59.

It's like if we don't have women in decision-making positions,

:09:00.:09:04.

then largely everything gets created to suit men and boys, and that

:09:05.:09:07.

I see such a huge opportunity for tennis to grow a lot,

:09:08.:09:18.

because of what's happened with Andy and Jamie's success,

:09:19.:09:22.

with Davis Cup success, and now with Johanna Konta breaking

:09:23.:09:26.

into the top ten there's a buzz about the women's side of the game.

:09:27.:09:29.

I just see it as a big opportunity to grow that side.

:09:30.:09:32.

I'm wondering if there is a part of you that looks back

:09:33.:09:35.

at the girl that used to play tennis professionally?

:09:36.:09:39.

You stopped after school and then went on to university and did

:09:40.:09:42.

something else completely and then got back into tennis.

:09:43.:09:46.

I wonder when you're sort of looking at the young girls

:09:47.:09:48.

now going out there, whether there is an element

:09:49.:09:51.

in you that looks that, perhaps, the fact you could have gone

:09:52.:09:53.

on to have been a successful player, had you had the sort

:09:54.:09:56.

of support you're now talking about giving girls today?

:09:57.:10:00.

I grew up playing tennis in Scotland, where we have terrible

:10:01.:10:05.

weather and we had no indoor courts when I was young, so you played

:10:06.:10:08.

tennis in the summer, and you played badminton

:10:09.:10:10.

I played for Scotland at both of those sports,

:10:11.:10:13.

which is no great shakes because tennis particularly

:10:14.:10:17.

is a minority sport, not many people played it.

:10:18.:10:20.

So I think, for me, when I left school and I wanted

:10:21.:10:24.

to try and play tennis, I had to go out on my own.

:10:25.:10:27.

My dad had his own business, my mum was looking after my two

:10:28.:10:30.

younger brothers, so I had to travel overseas on my own, no coach,

:10:31.:10:33.

This was in the days of no mobile phones, no ATM machines,

:10:34.:10:39.

the coin phone boxes, etc etc, wiring money to the post

:10:40.:10:43.

So we'll never know how good I might have been,

:10:44.:10:52.

but my point really is there were no opportunities, there

:10:53.:10:54.

You just had to go out and find it on your own.

:10:55.:10:59.

Your boys have achieved brilliant things, particularly this year has

:11:00.:11:02.

Andy number one in the men's singles, Jamie number

:11:03.:11:06.

When you look at them and you look at what you've achieved,

:11:07.:11:11.

at what they've achieved, what do you think?

:11:12.:11:14.

You know, it's amazing what they've done, it's amazing they did

:11:15.:11:18.

It's great for family harmony and no fighting at Christmas,

:11:19.:11:22.

I think when I go home and I pass our tennis club in Dunblane,

:11:23.:11:34.

it's four artificial grass courts with some floodlights, it's nearly

:11:35.:11:36.

But against that backdrop of no track record of tennis

:11:37.:11:41.

in our country, minority sport, terrible weather, very limited

:11:42.:11:45.

indoor facilities and just a number of people who were really passionate

:11:46.:11:49.

to try and create opportunities for young players to develop.

:11:50.:11:57.

They've come through that, and they've ended up at the very top

:11:58.:12:00.

It's, it really is remarkable what they've achieved.

:12:01.:12:07.

Pat Rafter is questioning whether Andy can keep his

:12:08.:12:11.

form going next year, and whether Novak Djokovic starts

:12:12.:12:13.

It's one thing getting to the top or near the top,

:12:14.:12:24.

It brings an added pressure, but it's a new situation,

:12:25.:12:28.

it's a new experience and you have to learn to deal with that.

:12:29.:12:32.

The one thing I do know about both of the boys,

:12:33.:12:35.

is that the more they gain the success, the harder they work.

:12:36.:12:40.

They know they have to, to stay up there, but it's

:12:41.:12:43.

almost like it drives them on to want to achieve even more.

:12:44.:12:46.

It would have been easy for both of them at the end of this

:12:47.:12:50.

season to have gone, that's it, we've done it now,

:12:51.:12:52.

It's almost like right, now, what's next?

:12:53.:12:55.

So are you saying potentially even bigger and better and next year?

:12:56.:13:04.

I think it would be hard to be better than this year.

:13:05.:13:08.

I think so many great things happen and this year for them,

:13:09.:13:11.

There's just so many great things that happened.

:13:12.:13:18.

But I know that they'll be as driven, if not more driven,

:13:19.:13:21.

I'm actually just quite happy to, I'd be quite happy to have a bit

:13:22.:13:29.

more time at home with them, a bit more normal family time,

:13:30.:13:32.

because that's the sort of thing that goes out of the window

:13:33.:13:35.

when your kids do a job like this and they're not

:13:36.:13:38.

Where do they get that inner strength, and than that resilience,

:13:39.:13:42.

and that mental strength that, as you say, is as important

:13:43.:13:44.

When you're doing particularly a sport that is a solitary sport,

:13:45.:13:51.

very difficult and demanding being out there on the road.

:13:52.:13:56.

I think both of them have had struggles from time to time

:13:57.:13:59.

at different stages of their career, for completely different reasons.

:14:00.:14:04.

I think the thing about staying at the top of whatever you do,

:14:05.:14:07.

whether it's a sport or a profession or an art, is that you have to be

:14:08.:14:12.

in a really good place mentally, in your life.

:14:13.:14:17.

Their wives are incredibly supportive wives, fantastic wives.

:14:18.:14:21.

They're both so, so lucky in that respect.

:14:22.:14:23.

And family, of course, the people who are around you,

:14:24.:14:27.

you're a product of your environment, so it's

:14:28.:14:29.

very, very important that you have the right

:14:30.:14:31.

I wanted to talk to you about a wider issue in sport right

:14:32.:14:38.

now, the sexual abuse allegations in football.

:14:39.:14:41.

The former tennis player Andrew Castle has said

:14:42.:14:43.

that there may have been the same sort of culture in tennis.

:14:44.:14:47.

I think probably every sport could find you examples of that

:14:48.:14:55.

You know, it's impossible to rule everyone out, but I know that,

:14:56.:15:04.

certainly within tennis in the UK, every coach who goes

:15:05.:15:07.

through a qualification has to be licensed and vetted,

:15:08.:15:10.

I can't remember what it's called now, it used to be called a CRB

:15:11.:15:17.

check, I think it's called a DBS check or something now.

:15:18.:15:20.

But, I mean, there's always going to be rogue people out there,

:15:21.:15:23.

and you have to do whatever you can to eliminate that.

:15:24.:15:29.

But you always hear, you would always hear stories,

:15:30.:15:32.

and I know of some instances where that kind of thing has

:15:33.:15:35.

You know, trying to help the kids to understand that

:15:36.:15:47.

if something isn't right, they must speak up and they must

:15:48.:15:53.

tell people and they mustn't hold it to themselves for years

:15:54.:15:55.

There's been some talk that Andy may get a knighthood.

:15:56.:16:04.

He is also the favourite in BBC's Sports Personality of the Year

:16:05.:16:07.

He's not interested in the fame and fortune -

:16:08.:16:24.

it's always been about working hard and trying to achieve

:16:25.:16:26.

So those are the things that are important to him.

:16:27.:16:34.

He got an OBE the year that he won Wimbledon in 2013.

:16:35.:16:40.

I know he's said he feels he's too young for something

:16:41.:16:42.

like a knighthood, and I certainly don't fancy calling him Sir Andy!

:16:43.:16:45.

What sort of age would you be thinking about putting a tennis

:16:46.:16:50.

racket in a child's nand, in your granddaughter's hand,

:16:51.:16:52.

I'm not sure I would be looking to do that, to be honest!

:16:53.:16:57.

I would much rather teach her to dance.

:16:58.:16:59.

I can't think of anything worse for her.

:17:00.:17:05.

Could you imagine being the child of some well-known tennis player?

:17:06.:17:08.

I mean every other kid in the block is going to want

:17:09.:17:11.

I think it would be ghastly. I hope she does something else.

:17:12.:17:16.

He's great, yeah, he's great, he's very hands-on, very

:17:17.:17:20.

When you did Strictly, do you feel that changed

:17:21.:17:26.

I was a huge Strictly fan, so it wasn't something I ever

:17:27.:17:33.

imagined I would get the chance to do.

:17:34.:17:36.

I really wanted to do it because of loving the show,

:17:37.:17:39.

I couldn't tell you the last time that I had done

:17:40.:17:51.

I think, for me, it did let a lot of people see that I was...

:17:52.:18:02.

I was going to say perfectly normal, but I'm maybe not perfectly,

:18:03.:18:05.

I'd say the vast majority of the public would only see in that

:18:06.:18:09.

incredibly stressful situation, that is the player box at Wimbledon

:18:10.:18:11.

or one of the slams, where the cameras always find you.

:18:12.:18:14.

And it goes without saying you would be so incredibly proud of your boys.

:18:15.:18:17.

I think they were quite funny when I was doing Strictly,

:18:18.:18:25.

because when I said to them, look, I've been asked to do

:18:26.:18:28.

Jamie said, oh mum, you love Strictly, go for it.

:18:29.:18:35.

Andy just went, oh my God, you'll be awful!

:18:36.:18:37.

But I think they were concerned for me, that perhaps it didn't go

:18:38.:18:41.

But as I went on through the competition, they were loving

:18:42.:18:45.

seeing me dressed up, loving the fact that

:18:46.:18:47.

I was enjoying myself, and also that people were saying

:18:48.:18:50.

Because probably for most of their careers people weren't

:18:51.:18:53.

saying particularly nice things about me.

:18:54.:18:55.

Had to put up with a lot of bad media over the years, I think,

:18:56.:18:58.

for being the competitive mum, and in many peoples lives

:18:59.:19:06.

for being the competitive mum, and in many people's eyes

:19:07.:19:09.

But this has all changed now and Strictly probably has

:19:10.:19:15.

a part to do with that, maybe the Fed Cup and maybe the fact

:19:16.:19:19.

just that the boys are successful and that people now realise

:19:20.:19:21.

what I do, in terms of trying to pay back into our own sport.

:19:22.:19:25.

Judy Murray, an amazing woman, very glad to have met her, she is working

:19:26.:19:32.

tirelessly to promote women's tennis. She is also obviously a

:19:33.:19:36.

great mum as well with those incredibly successful boys.

:19:37.:19:38.

Well, you can watch the BBC Sports Personality of the Year

:19:39.:19:42.

awards on BBC One on Sunday at 6.40pm.

:19:43.:19:44.

The full list of nominees are Andy Murray, Nicola Adams,

:19:45.:19:46.

Gareth Bale, Alistair Brownlee, Sophie Christiansen,

:19:47.:19:48.

Kadeena Cox, Mo Farah, Jason Kenny, Laura Kenny,

:19:49.:19:51.

Adam Peaty, Kate Richardson-Walsh, Nick Skelton, Dame Sarah Storey,

:19:52.:19:54.

Jamie Vardy, Max Whitlock, Danny Willett.

:19:55.:19:56.

We will talk more about Strictly later, Judy had her on the starring

:19:57.:20:10.

role on it. We will get into the Strictly groove later as we look

:20:11.:20:11.

forward to the final this weekend. Let's get more on the story

:20:12.:20:13.

that's been developing The operation to evacuate civilians

:20:14.:20:16.

and rebel fighters from the eastern parts of the Syrian city of Aleppo

:20:17.:20:20.

has been suspended. Our correspondent Lina Sinjab

:20:21.:20:28.

is in Beirut for us now, The Syrian government announced that

:20:29.:20:37.

the operation has been suspended. It says it blames the hold on rebel

:20:38.:20:44.

fighters and claiming they have opened fire on the buses of the

:20:45.:20:52.

convoy at the crossing point. The rebel fighters blamed the shooting

:20:53.:20:56.

on the government. There's a pro-government militias are the ones

:20:57.:21:00.

that opened fire on the convoy. All that we know now is that the

:21:01.:21:02.

operation has been suspended for now. It has also been confirmed by

:21:03.:21:08.

the Red Cross that there were some preparations in the morning

:21:09.:21:12.

announced by the Russian Ministry of Defence that the evacuation will

:21:13.:21:16.

resume and more will leave today but that is all on hold at the moment.

:21:17.:21:20.

All that we know is that lots of efforts have been going on behind

:21:21.:21:24.

the scene to resume these operations. Many people, some 50,000

:21:25.:21:28.

people trapped in East Aleppo, are hoping to leave the east of Aleppo

:21:29.:21:35.

including rebel fighters. But so far little details are available about

:21:36.:21:42.

what has caused this halt and what will happen next. We know that this

:21:43.:21:45.

operation is simultaneously organised with the evacuation of

:21:46.:21:51.

some two villages in Idlib that are besieged by the rebels and there are

:21:52.:21:55.

reports as well that the operation there has also been stopped. We are

:21:56.:22:00.

waiting for more details about that. Lots of efforts going on for this

:22:01.:22:05.

operation to resume and not to stop completely. Lina Sinjab reporting.

:22:06.:22:27.

Elizabeth Hoff, of the World Health Organisation

:22:28.:22:29.

representative in Syria updated the UN news conference

:22:30.:22:30.

Two minutes ago the operation was aborted and the ICSC, Sarc and WHO

:22:31.:22:35.

were informed to leave the area with the ambulances and buses.

:22:36.:22:38.

No reason has been explained for this

:22:39.:22:39.

I would like to inform you that so far 147 patients have

:22:40.:22:43.

The worrying part for us at the moment

:22:44.:22:48.

the besieged enclaves of East Aleppo, the remaining

:22:49.:23:00.

besieged enclave where the evacuation has been going on,

:23:01.:23:02.

there are still high numbers of women and infants,

:23:03.:23:04.

children under five, that need to get out.

:23:05.:23:08.

They have been collecting themselves at

:23:09.:23:12.

the points where the buses and ambulances were waiting for them.

:23:13.:23:15.

But now with the operation aborted they will have to go

:23:16.:23:18.

because we know that they are desperate.

:23:19.:23:32.

Elizabeth Hoff with the latest on the evacuation. How did we get to

:23:33.:23:41.

today's devastating situation in Aleppo? Let's look back at the

:23:42.:23:43.

events of the last few years and hear from those living in the city

:23:44.:23:45.

through this single War. The situation inside

:23:46.:23:49.

Aleppo is doomsday. I might die just now,

:23:50.:25:41.

while speaking to you. The situation now is getting

:25:42.:25:45.

horrifically intensified, No one can imagine what

:25:46.:25:47.

happened inside Aleppo, We hope that, we really hope

:25:48.:25:57.

to have a ceasefire soon, because these people now

:25:58.:26:02.

who are dying here... The situation here is

:26:03.:26:09.

a real catastrophe. It might be one of the worst,

:26:10.:26:20.

you know, humanitarian Zouhir, are you comfortable

:26:21.:26:23.

with continuing to talk to us, I can't move anywhere else,

:26:24.:26:28.

there is nowhere else safe This is a shame on the world,

:26:29.:26:35.

because it is 2016 and people are getting burned to death,

:26:36.:26:44.

suffocated to death I don't believe any more

:26:45.:26:46.

in the United Nations. Don't believe any more

:26:47.:26:54.

in the international community. Don't think that they are not

:26:55.:27:01.

satisfied with what's going on... They are satisfied that

:27:02.:27:07.

we are being killed. That we are facing one

:27:08.:27:12.

of the most difficult, or the most serious,

:27:13.:27:17.

or the most horrible massacre There is an urgent need

:27:18.:27:24.

for humanitarian teams to be deployed and given unfettered access

:27:25.:28:04.

to Aleppo, once government forces We are beginning to learn

:28:05.:28:07.

the price of not intervening. There are other solutions,

:28:08.:28:16.

such as using unmanned drones If we do nothing, if we just stand

:28:17.:28:21.

by and watch, then thousands more people in Syria will die in agony,

:28:22.:28:25.

and millions in Britain will live They would make every effort

:28:26.:28:29.

to shoot down a British plane. The tragedy in Aleppo did not

:28:30.:28:33.

come out of a vacuum, it was created by a vacuum -

:28:34.:28:44.

a vacuum of Western leadership, of American leadership,

:28:45.:28:48.

British leadership. we have an update on the journalist

:28:49.:31:55.

who you saw in that film, he has left Aleppo. He posted this update

:31:56.:32:00.

on social media as he waited early this morning to leave the city.

:32:01.:32:07.

It is nearly 6am now, I am near the office. I am waiting to go now, this

:32:08.:32:15.

is the last message. I am willing to leave now. As you can see from the

:32:16.:32:20.

background, cars are heading towards the area where people are

:32:21.:32:24.

assembling. It is heartbreaking sending the last message for me from

:32:25.:32:29.

the neighbourhood where I used to live and report from and work from.

:32:30.:32:37.

That journalist, prior to leaving eastern Aleppo this morning before

:32:38.:32:39.

the evacuation operation was suspended. We will keep you up to

:32:40.:32:45.

date with what is happening in Aleppo. Also...

:32:46.:32:47.

The National Lottery operator, Camelot has been fined ?3 million

:32:48.:32:49.

by the Gambling Commission for paying out on a fraudulent

:32:50.:32:52.

We'll get the very latest from our correspondent John Moylan.

:32:53.:32:58.

The charity single recorded in memory of the murdered MP

:32:59.:33:02.

We'll be speaking to two members of The London Hospices Choir,

:33:03.:33:06.

who are also hoping for the top spot this year.

:33:07.:33:14.

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:33:15.:33:17.

The evacuation of civilians and fighters from the Syrian city

:33:18.:33:21.

Reports on Syrian State Television say that rebels opened fire

:33:22.:33:26.

on a convoy at one of the crossing points of the rebel-held enclave.

:33:27.:33:32.

The World Health Organisation official has told reporters that a

:33:33.:33:34.

planned evacuation of the sick and wounded has been halted

:33:35.:33:37.

Around 3000 people, including hundreds of children,

:33:38.:33:41.

were transported out of the city yesterday.

:33:42.:33:43.

It's thought there are 50,000 people still waiting to leave.

:33:44.:33:48.

President Barack Obama has said the US will take action

:33:49.:33:51.

against Russia for what he calls interfering in the US election.

:33:52.:33:55.

The White House has said Russian President Vladimir Putin knew about

:33:56.:33:58.

the hacking of Democratic Party e-mail accounts during the campaign.

:33:59.:34:02.

Russia has been accused of hacking the emails of the Democratic Party

:34:03.:34:05.

The Kremlin says the claims are nonsense.

:34:06.:34:08.

A Royal Marine found guilty of murdering an injured Afghan

:34:09.:34:10.

fighter is today asking senior judges to grant him bail.

:34:11.:34:13.

Sergeant Alexander Blackman - known as Marine A -

:34:14.:34:15.

was jailed in 2013 and sentenced to life imprisonment

:34:16.:34:17.

He has been granted the right to appeal his conviction.

:34:18.:34:24.

Theresa May has told EU leaders that she wants an early agreement

:34:25.:34:28.

EDF Energy plans to cut gas prices from January but will increase

:34:29.:34:31.

It will reduce variable gas prices by 5.2% on 6 January,

:34:32.:34:35.

then will raise electricity bills by 8.4% on 1 March.

:34:36.:34:40.

After both changes, EDF's dual fuel customers will pay 1.2% more a year,

:34:41.:34:45.

taking their energy costs to ?1,082.

:34:46.:34:53.

That's a summary of the latest news, join me for BBC

:34:54.:34:58.

England's cricketers are playing for pride in the fifth

:34:59.:35:04.

Captain Alastair Cook won the toss, opted to bat. They are currently

:35:05.:35:19.

262-4. Johnny Wickett -- Jonny Bairstow was the last wicket to fall

:35:20.:35:24.

for 49, Moeen Ali just got his century.

:35:25.:35:25.

Valtteri Bottas is being lined up to replace retired world champion

:35:26.:35:28.

Williams say they are prepared to release the 27-year-old

:35:29.:35:31.

if an experienced, credible alternative is available.

:35:32.:35:33.

And Ronnie O'Sullivan is through to the quarter-finals

:35:34.:35:35.

of the Scottish Open snooker in Glasgow.

:35:36.:35:37.

He'll now play a very in-form John Higgins who won two matches

:35:38.:35:41.

I'll have more sport on the News Channel throughout the day.

:35:42.:35:51.

That is it for sport on Victoria Derbyshire over 2016.

:35:52.:35:57.

Thank you very much, Jessica. It's the great Christmas

:35:58.:36:00.

chart debate again. Last year it was the Lewisham

:36:01.:36:02.

and Greenwich NHS Choir who dominated the charts

:36:03.:36:04.

with A Bridge Over You after fighting off fierce competition

:36:05.:36:07.

from US popstar Justin Bieber. Five years before that,

:36:08.:36:09.

it was the turn of the Military Wives and Gareth Malone's Wherever

:36:10.:36:12.

You Are, which raised money for the Royal British Legion -

:36:13.:36:14.

selling more than 556,000 copies But battling for the top spot this

:36:15.:36:18.

year are the unlikely rivals MP4 - a band made up of musicians and MPs

:36:19.:36:25.

who have come together to record a Rolling Stones Classic in tribute

:36:26.:36:28.

to the murdered MP Jo Cox - Let's take a look at

:36:29.:36:33.

the other contenders. And those two.

:36:34.:36:48.

# What will they do now? # When Christmas comes around?

:36:49.:36:55.

# We were so in love. The Rec until I missed it up.

:36:56.:36:58.

# You can't always get what you want.

:36:59.:37:03.

# No, you can't always get what you want.

:37:04.:37:08.

# You can't always get what you want.

:37:09.:37:17.

# If every day was Christmas, and there was no all year.

:37:18.:37:23.

# Fires started blazing by. # I'd be with my girl tonight.

:37:24.:37:37.

# Say it loud, say it's clear. # Don't delay. Some pretty good

:37:38.:37:45.

offerings! With me now is Lillian John -

:37:46.:37:46.

she's 94 and is a patient at St Joseph's Hospice and a member

:37:47.:37:50.

of the London Hospices Choir. Their music producer and director,

:37:51.:37:52.

James Hawkins is also here. In Westminster is the SNP's

:37:53.:37:56.

Peter Wishart - he's a member of the cross-party parliamentary

:37:57.:37:58.

band MP4 who are behind the tribute And Dr Katie Rogerson -

:37:59.:38:01.

she's a paediatrician at a hospital in London and is one of the 32

:38:02.:38:06.

members of the The NHS Choir who were last year's

:38:07.:38:10.

christmas number one. Thank you all so much for joining

:38:11.:38:24.

us. Hello, Lillian. You joined this choir in order to make this song,

:38:25.:38:28.

and how much have you enjoy doing it? Oh, and mentally. It's so

:38:29.:38:33.

different from sitting indoors looking at the paint dry, isn't it?

:38:34.:38:41.

-- oh, immensely. Why did you want to do it? Saint Joseph 's, they are

:38:42.:38:46.

so kind to me, I love it there, I owe them a lot. The words got to

:38:47.:38:54.

you? Yes. They are so true. It is The Living Years. Every day of the

:38:55.:39:00.

week you can hear somebody saying, if only I had done something. I am

:39:01.:39:07.

too late now. That is so true. I have heard it, I said it myself. I

:39:08.:39:12.

should have gone to visit people, now it is too later, they are gone.

:39:13.:39:19.

Think on the words, they are very good.

:39:20.:39:22.

They are beautiful words. What has it been like being involved with

:39:23.:39:29.

this for you? An amazing journey. Full of emotions. The song stirs it

:39:30.:39:34.

up, actually hearing the choir, the people that are singing it to you,

:39:35.:39:38.

it is really from the heart. The words really gather their meaning

:39:39.:39:44.

even more from the 300 piece choir. Let's bring in Peter Wishart, one of

:39:45.:39:48.

the MPs in the song that has been put out in memory of Jo Cox. Why has

:39:49.:39:54.

it been important for you to do that? The whole community was

:39:55.:39:57.

traumatised by the tragic death of Jo Cox. We felt we had to do

:39:58.:40:01.

something and we thought what better way to unite people other than

:40:02.:40:06.

through music? We got everybody from all political parties participating,

:40:07.:40:10.

we have had such great support from a range of superb artists like Katie

:40:11.:40:15.

to install, David Gray. We decided just to put it out. I think the

:40:16.:40:21.

music stands up, I am so grateful to everybody who got behind this that

:40:22.:40:24.

supported it. How did you pick this in particular,

:40:25.:40:30.

who decided on the song? It was back in the summer when we decided to try

:40:31.:40:34.

to do this, it has a real communal feel to it. I think it is very much

:40:35.:40:40.

in line with the this is that Jo had, you can't always get what you

:40:41.:40:44.

want, sometimes you get what you need. I think that was the message

:40:45.:40:49.

we wanted to communicate. Katie Rodgerson, you were one of the

:40:50.:40:54.

members of the NHS Choir that took number one last year, beating Justin

:40:55.:40:58.

Bieber. A real example of people power in action when it comes to the

:40:59.:41:03.

Christmas number one. It is a very changed prospect these days? It is.

:41:04.:41:10.

The great British public getting behind it are fantastic, in my

:41:11.:41:14.

opinion, both of these songs are encapsulated that and we will be

:41:15.:41:18.

rooting for all these good causes and we're looking forward to

:41:19.:41:24.

hearing. Whether you get to the number one spot or not, obviously

:41:25.:41:27.

you did, but for the others, they are still raising money for charity?

:41:28.:41:35.

Exactly. (INAUDIBLE) That is exactly what both of these

:41:36.:41:40.

(INAUDIBLE) . It is lovely we're doing such a

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great tribute to her. And the London Hospices Choir continues a lot of

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the work and encapsulated by the NHS Choir, it is all great causes and it

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is a tradition of just thinking about others at Christmas time.

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We are struggling to hear you a little bit, Katie.

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Lillian, what is it like being a pop star at the age of 94? Oh! Luckily I

:42:05.:42:11.

have a lot of family and they love the record. A lot of fans, too. Of

:42:12.:42:19.

course! I have enjoyed it. I really have. Come Christmas I suppose they

:42:20.:42:25.

will have forgotten me with all their presents, but, no, it has made

:42:26.:42:28.

a real difference to me. Taken me out of my usual routine of sitting

:42:29.:42:36.

and doing not a lot. I have been enjoying it, every minute. Has it

:42:37.:42:42.

given you a taste for it? I don't know about that! I get tired,

:42:43.:42:48.

remember. But singing? Wendy due last sing before joining this choir?

:42:49.:42:53.

I sometimes home when a tune comes on that I remember. -- I sometimes

:42:54.:43:02.

hum. My songs go back a bit, they all had stories to them, that is why

:43:03.:43:07.

I appreciated this one. They are not all just head-bangers, you know? It

:43:08.:43:14.

enables people to see something different with the song you are

:43:15.:43:18.

putting out, a different side to some MPs, is that important? Yeah. I

:43:19.:43:24.

think it demonstrates the way we can work together and how we respond to

:43:25.:43:28.

events like this. It is all for charity. I have just been listening

:43:29.:43:31.

to all your other interviewees, isn't it wonderful that there are

:43:32.:43:35.

all these great records and people are making a massive effort to try

:43:36.:43:39.

to raise money for a range of charities. If we are beaten by any

:43:40.:43:48.

of these we will be happy, it is one of the of year when people can look

:43:49.:43:51.

at music and see what they can do through music to raise funds for

:43:52.:43:53.

very important charities. Gym, music really brings people

:43:54.:43:58.

together? Are especially at this time of year, choirs build

:43:59.:44:02.

communities. Your message can come across a lot stronger with the

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strength in numbers and through singing the words. I think that is

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what we are all achieving. There is something particularly special about

:44:13.:44:24.

acquire cock -- a choir, that is what encapsulates? Through chief

:44:25.:44:28.

executives to clean as it is a real leveller. Good luck to you all,

:44:29.:44:32.

thank you very much. It has been wonderful to meet you, thank you

:44:33.:44:36.

very much. And happy Christmas. Thank you very much.

:44:37.:44:38.

Strictly reaches its crescendo tomorrow evening.

:44:39.:44:40.

We'll be joined by one of the professional dancers,

:44:41.:44:43.

and the former contestant - infamously shot out of a cannon -

:44:44.:44:45.

Russel Grant to see who they think will win.

:44:46.:44:59.

The National Lottery operator, Camelot, who have been running

:45:00.:45:07.

the lottery since 2004, have been fined three million pounds

:45:08.:45:10.

by UK gambling regulator, the Gambling Commission,

:45:11.:45:12.

for paying out an allegedly fraudulent prize claim in 2009.

:45:13.:45:17.

The three million pound penalty includes the two and half million

:45:18.:45:20.

which should have gone to good causes had the multi-million pound

:45:21.:45:23.

The National Lottery operator, Camelot, who have been running

:45:24.:45:29.

Let's find out more about this fine and what it means for Camelot

:45:30.:45:32.

from our business correspondent John Moylan.

:45:33.:45:38.

Details are just emerging, in truth we don't know exactly what happened

:45:39.:45:43.

but it is alleged that happened in 2009 and it would appear to be

:45:44.:45:46.

linked to a fraudulent claim based on a deliberately damaged ticket.

:45:47.:45:51.

Subsequently, millions of pounds have been paid out on the back of

:45:52.:45:55.

that. The incident didn't come to light until last year. There was a

:45:56.:45:59.

full investigation. The police have been involved, obviously. Camelot

:46:00.:46:04.

are today accepting the findings that there were weaknesses in their

:46:05.:46:08.

controls, weaknesses in how this particular issue was dealt with. So

:46:09.:46:11.

they are accepting the findings, they have paid the ?3 million, and

:46:12.:46:16.

they are saying today they believe such an incident couldn't happen

:46:17.:46:20.

again. Has anyone been prosecuted over the fraudulent claim? All we

:46:21.:46:23.

know at this stage is the police looked into it and they have decided

:46:24.:46:26.

that they will not be taking any further action. It may well be that

:46:27.:46:28.

it was just so long ago, or that the paper trail

:46:29.:46:42.

linked to one of this has disappeared in some way. So whoever

:46:43.:46:45.

got the money kept it? We don't know the details. One assumes that that

:46:46.:46:47.

is the situation. It leads to all sorts of questions about how it

:46:48.:46:49.

happened, good other frauds have happened of that nature at the same

:46:50.:46:52.

time when there were weak processes in place and could it happen again?

:46:53.:46:55.

Camelot this morning are saying that it was an alleged fraud linked to a

:46:56.:46:58.

deliberately damaged ticket. They think this is limited to a unique

:46:59.:47:03.

incident. They point out that the police did investigate it

:47:04.:47:05.

thoroughly, they are not going to take it any further. They regret

:47:06.:47:09.

there were weaknesses in their control. There was an independent

:47:10.:47:12.

review of their processes carried out last year which found no

:47:13.:47:16.

evidence of similar circumstances, and they are completely confident,

:47:17.:47:20.

they say, that this would not be possible today. Is that it then?

:47:21.:47:24.

They have had a hefty fine, haven't they? Is that the end of the matter?

:47:25.:47:29.

Is interesting this question of how hefty a fine. We are told that they

:47:30.:47:34.

had this fraud not happened ?2.5 million would have been made

:47:35.:47:37.

available for good causes. The overall penalty here is ?3 million,

:47:38.:47:41.

which in fact means the penalty to Camelot is in the region of

:47:42.:47:45.

?500,000. This is a company that makes ?100 million per year.

:47:46.:47:50.

Jonathan, thank you very much. After 13 weeks of shimmying,

:47:51.:47:54.

twirling, heel leads and reverse turns the Strictly Come Dancing

:47:55.:47:57.

final takes place on Saturday. The three finalists are BBC

:47:58.:48:02.

Sports Presenter Ore Oduba, singer and TV presenter Louise Redknapp

:48:03.:48:05.

and ex-Hollyoaks actor Danny Mac. Strictly fans will be glued

:48:06.:48:09.

to their TV screen as they tune in to find out who will be crowned

:48:10.:48:14.

the winner of this year's dancing extravaganza and take home

:48:15.:48:18.

the coveted glitter ball trophy. Let's get a flavour of the series so

:48:19.:48:23.

far. I have left tests and Claudia over

:48:24.:48:58.

there to talk to Ian Waite, one of the original Strictly come dancing

:48:59.:49:02.

professional dancers and in Berkshire we are joined by the

:49:03.:49:06.

celebrity astrologer Russell Grant, famously a contestant in 2000

:49:07.:49:09.

elevenths when he was infamously shot out of a cannon on the show.

:49:10.:49:19.

Michelle Harville, founder of the Ed Balls strictly macro Frank Leboeuf

:49:20.:49:25.

and Eleanor Chalkley who runs a dancing podcast. Thank you for

:49:26.:49:30.

joining us. Thank you for joining us. How does this year compared to

:49:31.:49:36.

previous years? It is a bit of a cliche but Strictly seems to get

:49:37.:49:39.

better and better in the way other reality shows don't seem to manage,

:49:40.:49:43.

while others like X factor are going off the boil strictly macro grows

:49:44.:49:46.

and becomes ever more joyous and glorious which is amazing. This year

:49:47.:49:49.

they have some of the best dancers and talent they have ever had. Why

:49:50.:49:54.

do you think it gets ever more glorious and joyous? Sometimes we

:49:55.:49:58.

can live in grim times and strictly macro is an antidote to that, it is

:49:59.:50:02.

so happy and so joyous and the judges and everyone feels like they

:50:03.:50:06.

are part of their lives already. The talent is so great, everything about

:50:07.:50:11.

it, what is not to love? The particularly joyous thing for you

:50:12.:50:17.

has been Ed Balls. Why? It is just because he has been so entertaining.

:50:18.:50:25.

He has shown just great sporting acumen in coming out and doing

:50:26.:50:31.

something that is just completely out of his ballpark. I think he's

:50:32.:50:35.

done amazingly. I know loads of people who have just gone, I'm

:50:36.:50:41.

really enjoying that. Eleanor, you love Doug Marrone the Keep Dancing

:50:42.:50:45.

podcast. What have you loved about the show this year? -- Keep Dancing

:50:46.:50:55.

podcast. Judge Rinder falling in love with dance and the fabulously

:50:56.:50:59.

technical heights that the contest has come to. I have just seen you in

:51:00.:51:06.

your outfit over my shoulder. Thank you, you look fabulous. I was asked

:51:07.:51:12.

to. I cannot see you by the way, so I will just look into the camera. I

:51:13.:51:17.

thought you had been to the supermarket dressed like that.

:51:18.:51:20.

Badger has been done a lot and that is where the word infamous would be

:51:21.:51:25.

right. By the way, although I danced with Joanne Clifton the cha-cha in

:51:26.:51:33.

this when we did Aladdin I never took the Magic carpet as far as

:51:34.:51:36.

Berkshire, I'm in Middlesex this morning. I love a good start so here

:51:37.:51:41.

are some I wanted to let the viewers know about, if you don't know this

:51:42.:51:47.

already. 57 litres of fake tan using every season, 1200 sets of fake

:51:48.:52:01.

eyelashes. I never used the tan, it would have gone up to 100 gallons! I

:52:02.:52:10.

just think that the make-up artists led by Lisa Armstrong, are just

:52:11.:52:13.

incredible. The styling of the hair, everything else is amazing. What

:52:14.:52:21.

made it so wonderful is my background is musical theatre, so to

:52:22.:52:25.

be able to go on to Strictly, at the age of 60, my goodness I wish I had

:52:26.:52:29.

done it at the age of 30, but it was just the most amazing and wonderful

:52:30.:52:34.

experience and one I will remember for ever. Ian, you've been involved

:52:35.:52:37.

in the seven series of the show. What has been your highlight for

:52:38.:52:43.

this one? Well, Ed has been amazing. I think like she said earlier, that

:52:44.:52:48.

we don't expect a politician to be coming out and doing those moves. It

:52:49.:52:53.

just doesn't tally up together, but he was so good. I thought his

:52:54.:52:56.

dancing was a lot better than people gave him credit for. And also, Danny

:52:57.:53:02.

Mac, every week his performances, he came out doing a different style

:53:03.:53:05.

every week and is difficult to do all those different styles and still

:53:06.:53:10.

stay on top. Week after week. He came out the first week and we all

:53:11.:53:15.

thought he is going to go down from this. But every week he came out

:53:16.:53:20.

with a better dance every single week, so it's been amazing to watch.

:53:21.:53:25.

The thing on strictly macro is people on a journey and people were

:53:26.:53:28.

worried that Danny would not have won but he is so good people can

:53:29.:53:32.

forgive him that. Exactly that, when you see somebody who has two left

:53:33.:53:36.

feet at the start getting better and better. What is the element of magic

:53:37.:53:42.

for you, Ian? Well, it is definitely a very family show and it is like a

:53:43.:53:47.

family when you work on it. Even, I'm working on it takes two, it is

:53:48.:53:55.

such a lovely family and it is nice to see the couples coming in. They

:53:56.:53:59.

support each other too. The professionals have a reputation for

:54:00.:54:02.

being competitive, which they are but it produces the best, you see

:54:03.:54:06.

the amazing shows and they are choreographing on a Sunday. There

:54:07.:54:08.

must be tantrums and hissy fits behind-the-scenes. I don't think so

:54:09.:54:14.

so much anymore. They may use to have been. Let's talk about what

:54:15.:54:17.

used to happen. We used to have quite a few divas on the show but

:54:18.:54:21.

they have all gone now. Was Russell one of them? Russell was one of

:54:22.:54:29.

them! No, no! He was one of the best. Everybody gets on so well. For

:54:30.:54:32.

a celebrity going through that experience, they don't spend that

:54:33.:54:36.

much time, even probably with their own partners, as they do with their

:54:37.:54:40.

dance partners. So you do get so involved in it that it's an

:54:41.:54:46.

experience you never forget. They are all working so hard. People

:54:47.:54:49.

still don't really understand the training they put in and the press

:54:50.:54:52.

commitments and all those things going on. It is 8-10 hours a day and

:54:53.:54:57.

the week of the final was the hardest because you do more

:54:58.:54:59.

interviews and more other things other than the practice. So than the

:55:00.:55:03.

actual practice goes out of the window for the week of the final so

:55:04.:55:07.

it's difficult. Was it hard work, Russell? Yes, but it's all about the

:55:08.:55:12.

chemistry with your partner. I was absolutely so lucky to have Claudia.

:55:13.:55:18.

You are working all the time, but it's the joy of discovering new

:55:19.:55:26.

steps and new challenges and just luxuriating in the whole thing. I

:55:27.:55:30.

don't understand if anyone has been a diva in the past because you've

:55:31.:55:34.

got too much time to spend learning things without being a diva. If your

:55:35.:55:40.

nerves are bad, that is for sure, but at the same time it is a

:55:41.:55:43.

wonderful, wonderful time. The best time of my television life. Who will

:55:44.:55:52.

you be rooting for? I danced with Joanne. I want Joanne and Ore to

:55:53.:56:02.

win, he is full of bounce and joy and enthusiasm and happiness. And

:56:03.:56:08.

she is the sweetest, most wonderful person you could hope to meet and

:56:09.:56:11.

they have a winning formula and that is where the chemistry between two

:56:12.:56:16.

people works. Michelle Conn favourite Ed Balls, is out,

:56:17.:56:19.

obviously. Who do you want -- Michelle, your favourite. I'm quite

:56:20.:56:26.

looking forward to seeing Danny Mac raise the Glitterball Trophy.

:56:27.:56:30.

He's done some amazing work and he is mesmerising. Eleanor, who would

:56:31.:56:38.

you like to see women? You could make a case for all three couples

:56:39.:56:42.

winning. You've got Kevin and Louise with their massive fan base, Ore

:56:43.:56:47.

Oduba and Joe who are so charismatic together, but in sheer dance terms I

:56:48.:56:51.

will have to go for Danny and Oti, they are beautiful together. I am

:56:52.:56:57.

team Danny as well however this is Kevin Clifton's fourth final and he

:56:58.:57:00.

is a popular pro and that could swing it. And Ian? You know, they'll

:57:01.:57:10.

have something to give, as you said. But I think I'd like Danny to win.

:57:11.:57:16.

But I think Louise will win. I've done a little tally, the hot

:57:17.:57:22.

favourite among you is Danny. Next year, you said, it gets bigger and

:57:23.:57:25.

better every year. What could take it to the next level? A lot of

:57:26.:57:30.

politicians will be thinking, can I do and Ed Balls and turn my

:57:31.:57:33.

popularity around? We could have some interesting contestants. It

:57:34.:57:36.

just needs to keep going the way it is going, keep having inspiring

:57:37.:57:40.

choreography, we will have a new judge next year because Len Goodman

:57:41.:57:43.

will not be there so that will be interesting to see how it goes down

:57:44.:57:48.

with the public. It is fair to say that everybody who goes on the sort

:57:49.:57:52.

of ends up being well loved by the audience. I can't think of anyone.

:57:53.:57:58.

It is hard to be a popular at the end, it is a good PR exercise. For

:57:59.:58:03.

most celebrities it is difficult because you have to block out three

:58:04.:58:06.

months to do it but it's amazing to do. It's an amazing skill to learn

:58:07.:58:11.

as well. Thank you so much for Sabine joy tomorrow, I trust you

:58:12.:58:14.

will be attending strict Li parties as you watch. Thank you, enjoy. --

:58:15.:58:19.

strict Li. This is our last programme

:58:20.:58:21.

before Christmas. We will be back on

:58:22.:58:22.

Tuesday 3rd January. Oh, Walt. You got to call me Walt.

:58:23.:58:26.

Mr Disney was my old man.

:58:27.:58:49.

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