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I'm Joanna Gosling, welcome to the programme. | :00:08. | :00:11. | |
Thousands more people are evacuated from Aleppo | :00:12. | :00:13. | |
The operation to rescue civilians is continuing round the clock - | :00:14. | :00:19. | |
one of those who's leaving is Zouhir Alshimale, whose story | :00:20. | :00:22. | |
I can't move anywhere else. Nowhere is safe in the whole East. | :00:23. | :00:40. | |
It is heartbreaking, sending the last message from me from my | :00:41. | :00:43. | |
neighbourhood where I used to live, and work from. | :00:44. | :00:46. | |
Former Royal Marine Sergeant Alexander Blackman, | :00:47. | :00:47. | |
who was convicted of the murder of an injured Taliban | :00:48. | :00:50. | |
fighter in Afghanistan, could be granted bail today ahead | :00:51. | :00:52. | |
And I've been speaking to Judy Murray about the incredible | :00:53. | :00:57. | |
We also talked about her hopes for her granddaughter, | :00:58. | :01:02. | |
the weather in Scotland and why she works so tirelessly to get | :01:03. | :01:05. | |
I realise how much harder you have to work to make things happen in the | :01:06. | :01:19. | |
women's side of any sport, compared to the men's, and also very aware | :01:20. | :01:23. | |
that the majority of the decision-makers, certainly within | :01:24. | :01:24. | |
tennis, they are all guys. Hello, welcome to our last | :01:25. | :01:31. | |
live show of the year, We'll be looking ahead | :01:32. | :01:34. | |
to tomorrow's final with fans We're down to the final four - | :01:35. | :01:39. | |
let us know who you're supporting. We'll also look at | :01:40. | :01:45. | |
the runners and riders This is our last programme before | :01:46. | :01:47. | |
we break for Christmas. Do get in touch on all the stories | :01:48. | :01:52. | |
we're talking about this morning - If you text, you will be charged | :01:53. | :01:58. | |
at the standard network rate. Our top story today - | :01:59. | :02:02. | |
an evacuation of civilians and fighters from the Syrian city | :02:03. | :02:04. | |
of Aleppo is continuing round the clock, as a ceasefire | :02:05. | :02:06. | |
held firm overnight. Some 3000 people, including hundreds | :02:07. | :02:11. | |
of children and the injured, were transported out of the city | :02:12. | :02:14. | |
in the first convoys yesterday. The United Nations estimates that up | :02:15. | :02:18. | |
to 50,000 people may still be in the eastern districts of the city | :02:19. | :02:21. | |
that the rebels had These were the first convoys | :02:22. | :02:24. | |
to leave Aleppo yesterday. A fleet of ambulances brought out | :02:25. | :02:35. | |
some of the sick and injured. Next, a long line of green buses | :02:36. | :02:38. | |
carrying hundreds of civilians and rebel fighters weave | :02:39. | :02:41. | |
through the streets, ravaged by years of bombing | :02:42. | :02:44. | |
and a month-long siege. During the day, around 3,000 people, | :02:45. | :02:49. | |
among them the very youngest, were taken to neighbouring Idlib | :02:50. | :02:52. | |
province, which is mainly Many to already | :02:53. | :02:55. | |
overstretched refugee camps. Over the coming days, | :02:56. | :03:03. | |
around 50,000 more people are expected to be moved | :03:04. | :03:05. | |
out of Aleppo. For those who remain, | :03:06. | :03:10. | |
there's a desperate need for food Turkey, which helped | :03:11. | :03:13. | |
broker the evacuation, is preparing to take in some | :03:14. | :03:17. | |
of the most vulnerable people and last night the UK pledged money | :03:18. | :03:22. | |
to help those affected. The UK is going to provide an extra | :03:23. | :03:27. | |
?20 million of practical support The mayor of East Aleppo said | :03:28. | :03:30. | |
to us we can't bring back those who are lost, | :03:31. | :03:38. | |
but we can save those who remain, But now there are deep concerns | :03:39. | :03:41. | |
that the war in Syria will move from the streets of eastern Aleppo | :03:42. | :03:49. | |
to other parts of the country and that the suffering | :03:50. | :03:53. | |
for so many is far from over. Our correspondent Lina Sinjab | :03:54. | :03:58. | |
is in Beirut for us now, Well, another round of buses loaded | :03:59. | :04:20. | |
with people from Aleppo is being uploaded now, another round of | :04:21. | :04:24. | |
evacuation is taking place today. The Syrian Observatory said -- the | :04:25. | :04:29. | |
Syrian Observatory for human rights said that over the past 24 hours | :04:30. | :04:35. | |
around 8500 people have been evacuated, including 3000 civilians. | :04:36. | :04:39. | |
The Ministry of Defence, the Russian Ministry of Defence, says the | :04:40. | :04:43. | |
numbers were around more than 6000. The UN, as you said earlier, | :04:44. | :04:47. | |
believes that at least 50,000 people are still trapped in eastern Aleppo | :04:48. | :04:51. | |
and need to be evacuated, this will not happen overnight, this will take | :04:52. | :04:57. | |
a few days of the evacuation process with tens of buses loaded with | :04:58. | :05:03. | |
people taken mainly to the northern province of a blip, which is still | :05:04. | :05:08. | |
under rebel control. Thank you. -- the northern province of Idlib. | :05:09. | :05:14. | |
Annita McVeigh has the rest of the news. | :05:15. | :05:16. | |
President Barack Obama has said the US will take action | :05:17. | :05:18. | |
against Russia for what he calls interfering in the US election. | :05:19. | :05:21. | |
Russia has been accused of hacking the emails of the Democratic Party | :05:22. | :05:24. | |
The Kremlin says the claims are nonsense. | :05:25. | :05:29. | |
Laura Bicker has the latest from Washington. | :05:30. | :05:32. | |
Thank you to the incredible people of Pennsylvania, thank you! | :05:33. | :05:45. | |
As he tours the country to thank voters, he's dismissing claims that | :05:46. | :05:49. | |
Vladimir Putin helped put him in the White House. | :05:50. | :05:51. | |
But the Obama administration made Russian hacking claims | :05:52. | :05:53. | |
Now they say the Russian president was directly involved | :05:54. | :05:58. | |
in the operation which targeted the e-mails of Hillary | :05:59. | :06:00. | |
Mr Obama gave this response to NPR Radio. | :06:01. | :06:07. | |
that when any foreign government tries to impact the integrity of our | :06:08. | :06:18. | |
elections that we need to take action, and we will at a time | :06:19. | :06:21. | |
Earlier the White House Press Secretary pointed | :06:22. | :06:24. | |
Based on my personal reading, and not based on any knowledge that | :06:25. | :06:33. | |
I have that may be classified or otherwise, it's pretty obvious! | :06:34. | :06:37. | |
That they were referring to the senior most government | :06:38. | :06:42. | |
Vladimir Putin has always denied the accusations and said | :06:43. | :06:46. | |
they were laughable nonsense, no proof has ever been made public. | :06:47. | :06:52. | |
The dispute over Russia's role in the election is overshadowing | :06:53. | :06:55. | |
The President-elect and the president do not agree over | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
A Royal Marine found guilty of murdering an injured Afghan | :07:00. | :07:12. | |
fighter is today asking senior judges to grant him bail. | :07:13. | :07:15. | |
Sergeant Alexander Blackman - known as Marine A - | :07:16. | :07:18. | |
was jailed in 2013 and sentenced to life imprisonment | :07:19. | :07:20. | |
He has been granted the right to appeal his conviction. | :07:21. | :07:26. | |
And we'll be speaking to Sergeant Blackman's wife Claire | :07:27. | :07:29. | |
Theresa May has told EU leaders that she wants an early agreement | :07:30. | :07:34. | |
on the status of British people living on the continent, | :07:35. | :07:36. | |
She was talking ahead of the latest Brexit talks in Brussels. | :07:37. | :07:42. | |
The leaders of the other 27 member states agreed | :07:43. | :07:44. | |
that the European Parliament would have a formal role | :07:45. | :07:47. | |
Thousands of Southern rail commuters are facing more disruption | :07:48. | :07:54. | |
after talks aimed at resolving the dispute ended without agreement. | :07:55. | :07:57. | |
Drivers on the network began a 24-hour stoppage at midnight. | :07:58. | :08:01. | |
Andy Moore sent this update from Victoria Station in London. | :08:02. | :08:20. | |
All 2000 services on Southern have been cancelled, 300,000 people have | :08:21. | :08:25. | |
been told to make alternative travel arrangements. Talks at ACAS ended | :08:26. | :08:31. | |
yesterday, the parent company of Southern said they put forward a | :08:32. | :08:35. | |
practical offer to the union, the union said it was basically a | :08:36. | :08:40. | |
non-offer, there was nothing new in it at all. Both sides say they have | :08:41. | :08:45. | |
an open door to new talks but no date has been set. There was a | :08:46. | :08:49. | |
protest last night, people gathered on the concourse with banners and | :08:50. | :08:54. | |
placards and then marched to the Department for Transport nearby and | :08:55. | :08:56. | |
presented the Transport Secretary, Chris Grayling, with an early | :08:57. | :09:01. | |
Christmas present of a toy train set. Many commuters blame him for | :09:02. | :09:05. | |
not stepping in to resolve this dispute. He says the dispute is all | :09:06. | :09:11. | |
down to union militancy. This strike lasts until midnight and nights, | :09:12. | :09:16. | |
there will be another strike involving conductors from the RMT | :09:17. | :09:19. | |
union on Monday and Tuesday next week. Some but not all services will | :09:20. | :09:26. | |
be cancelled. There is more disruption over the New Year and | :09:27. | :09:29. | |
there is another big strike planned on Monday January the 9th, which is | :09:30. | :09:33. | |
last for six days. Murray reporting. | :09:34. | :09:35. | |
Regulators say banks should not have to reimburse customers | :09:36. | :09:37. | |
who are tricked into transferring money into the accounts | :09:38. | :09:39. | |
The Payment Systems Regulator was responding to a complaint | :09:40. | :09:42. | |
It said banks needed to better protect victims | :09:43. | :09:45. | |
Hospitals in England will be so full this winter that infection | :09:46. | :09:50. | |
rates are bound to rise, according to a new report. | :09:51. | :09:53. | |
NHS England said plans to maximise the number of beds available | :09:54. | :09:56. | |
But the independent healthcare research charity the Nuffield Trust | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
says accident and emergency targets will also be missed. | :10:02. | :10:06. | |
A sugar tax on soft drinks could reduce the numbers of adults | :10:07. | :10:09. | |
and children in the UK who become obese by tens of thousands, | :10:10. | :10:12. | |
A study in the medical journal The Lancet says a proposed sugar | :10:13. | :10:18. | |
levy is likely to have a significant impact on health. | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
But the British soft drinks association says there is no | :10:23. | :10:24. | |
It was one small snack for man, one giant treat for mankind. | :10:25. | :10:38. | |
Three, two, one! CHEERING | :10:39. | :10:42. | |
Scientists have sent a meat and potato pie into space to see | :10:43. | :10:45. | |
if travelling to a height of nearly 20 miles would affect | :10:46. | :10:48. | |
It was attached to a weather balloon and launched from Wigan, | :10:49. | :10:51. | |
It reached the stratosphere then came back to earth, | :10:52. | :10:55. | |
landing around 50 miles away in North Yorkshire. | :10:56. | :11:01. | |
Boldly going where no pie has gone before! | :11:02. | :11:05. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9:30am. | :11:06. | :11:08. | |
What on earth is that about?! And updates on Aleppo, we're getting | :11:09. | :11:18. | |
reports that that operation to take people out of the city has been | :11:19. | :11:23. | |
suspended. AFP say the operation to evacuate civilians and fighters from | :11:24. | :11:27. | |
the last rebel held parts of Aleppo has been suspended, are quoting a | :11:28. | :11:35. | |
security and -- Syrian security force, the opposition forces are | :11:36. | :11:39. | |
accusing the opposition of violating the deal, there is an accusation | :11:40. | :11:43. | |
that the militants fail to respect the agreement. AFP have been told | :11:44. | :11:50. | |
that, reportedly, and Reuters says that the Syrian official overseeing | :11:51. | :11:54. | |
the evacuation says it has been suspended because of obstructions. | :11:55. | :11:58. | |
Those reports coming through that the evacuation of eastern Aleppo has | :11:59. | :12:03. | |
been suspended, we will check out those reports and keep you updated. | :12:04. | :12:04. | |
Do get in touch with us throughout the morning - | :12:05. | :12:07. | |
If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. | :12:08. | :12:11. | |
This is our last programme before we break for Christmas. | :12:12. | :12:13. | |
I love your Christmas jumper! I think it is great, it has bells on | :12:14. | :12:29. | |
it. It makes a noise, can you hear that? The best part is, wait for | :12:30. | :12:34. | |
this... Not only does it have bells, can you see is lighting up? That is | :12:35. | :12:42. | |
quality, brilliant. Only nine days until Christmas, but I'm here to | :12:43. | :12:45. | |
talk about sports, not my Christmas jumper. The cricketers have just | :12:46. | :12:53. | |
come back after tea where England are hoping for a win in the fifth | :12:54. | :12:57. | |
and final test in July against India. They have already lost the | :12:58. | :13:01. | |
series, Captain Alastair Cook won the toss, decided to bat and did not | :13:02. | :13:06. | |
start very well, England were 21-2 after Cook and opening partner | :13:07. | :13:12. | |
Keaton Jennings were dismissed. Joe Root Moeen Ali fared better, taking | :13:13. | :13:17. | |
the run tally to an hundred and 67 before Root was controversially | :13:18. | :13:21. | |
given out on 88, he was not happy at all, walked off the pitch shaking | :13:22. | :13:25. | |
his head. He had been judged to have got an edge on the board. Ali is on | :13:26. | :13:32. | |
63 and has been joined at the crease by Jonny Bairstow, England on 187-3 | :13:33. | :13:35. | |
in the final session of the day. There's news of a potential | :13:36. | :13:38. | |
replacement for Nico His name is Valtteri Bottas, he | :13:39. | :13:45. | |
drives for Williams but they say they will be prepared to let him | :13:46. | :13:49. | |
leave his contract if they can find a credible alternative, as they put | :13:50. | :13:55. | |
it, to replace him. Nico Rosberg won the world title and shocked everyone | :13:56. | :13:59. | |
in the sport by retiring five days later. Valtteri Bottas could be | :14:00. | :14:03. | |
Lewis Hamilton's new Mercedes team-mate. It is a brilliant | :14:04. | :14:08. | |
opportunity for him, the 27 air Finn has had nine podium finishes but is | :14:09. | :14:13. | |
yet to win a race, his best position in the drivers championship is | :14:14. | :14:20. | |
fourth so it is interesting to see how he would develop with a leading | :14:21. | :14:23. | |
team like Mercedes. Mercedes say they will not announce anything | :14:24. | :14:26. | |
official about the new Jallow -- new driver until January the 3rd at the | :14:27. | :14:28. | |
earliest. And Ronnie O'Sullivan is going well | :14:29. | :14:30. | |
at the Scottish Open snooker? Through to the quarterfinals in | :14:31. | :14:37. | |
Glasgow and will play a very informed John Higgins, who won two | :14:38. | :14:42. | |
yaks -- won two matches yesterday without losing a single frame. | :14:43. | :14:49. | |
Sullivan beat Mark Allen by four frames to two, scoring two century | :14:50. | :14:54. | |
breaks to seal his place in the last eight. The last time O'Sullivan and | :14:55. | :14:57. | |
Higgins played each other last month, Higgins won 10-7, so The Rock | :14:58. | :15:04. | |
At might be out for revenge as he looks to add to the Masters and | :15:05. | :15:10. | |
Welsh open title that he has already won. | :15:11. | :15:13. | |
Thank you, Jessica, I am sorry I did not wear my Christmas jumper, but | :15:14. | :15:14. | |
yours is better than my next Sergeant Alexander Blackman | :15:15. | :15:21. | |
will today find out if he will be granted bail as he awaits an appeal | :15:22. | :15:24. | |
against his conviction for murdering His legal team and many high-profile | :15:25. | :15:38. | |
supporters say he suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder at | :15:39. | :15:38. | |
the time. In a moment we'll be speaking | :15:39. | :15:41. | |
to Sergeant Blackman's wife Claire. But first our correspondent | :15:42. | :15:44. | |
Robert Hall explains A helmet camera, worn by a member | :15:45. | :15:45. | |
of Marine Sergeant Al Blackman's squad, captures the moment they find | :15:46. | :15:54. | |
a wounded insurgent, one of two men who'd | :15:55. | :15:59. | |
attacked their base. At his court-martial, | :16:00. | :16:01. | |
Sergeant Blackman was told he'd disgraced the name of | :16:02. | :16:16. | |
the British Armed Forces. He spent the past three years | :16:17. | :16:18. | |
at Erlestoke prison in Wiltshire as family and supporters argue that | :16:19. | :16:22. | |
Sergeant Blackman's mental state and weaknesses in the prosecution | :16:23. | :16:28. | |
case mean the murder Had he been charged with | :16:29. | :16:30. | |
manslaughter, on the technicality of making a bad mistake, | :16:31. | :16:37. | |
but nevertheless a mistake, he would probably have | :16:38. | :16:42. | |
got three or so years. Halve it for good behaviour, | :16:43. | :16:44. | |
he'd be out already. But others believe that even | :16:45. | :16:47. | |
in the brutal combat of Afghanistan, the laws of warfare | :16:48. | :16:51. | |
must be adhered to. The fact remains, what he did | :16:52. | :16:53. | |
was break the Geneva Convention by shooting a wounded prisoner | :16:54. | :16:56. | |
and that is absolutely wrong in all circumstances, | :16:57. | :16:58. | |
unless you can show that An appeal against conviction is many | :16:59. | :17:01. | |
months away but Sergeant Blackman's family say release | :17:02. | :17:08. | |
on bail should be considered for a hugely experienced soldier | :17:09. | :17:13. | |
who is not a criminal Let's talk now to his | :17:14. | :17:15. | |
wife Claire Blackman. Thank you for joining us. How are | :17:16. | :17:34. | |
you feeling ahead of the bail hearing today? A bit nervous, if I'm | :17:35. | :17:38. | |
honest. It's a big day but we will find out this afternoon. Have you | :17:39. | :17:42. | |
been able to speak to him to see how he's feeling today? Yes, I spoke to | :17:43. | :17:48. | |
him last night. He was on good form. He is also trying to manage his | :17:49. | :17:53. | |
expectations. He's hopeful but not getting carried away. It would be | :17:54. | :17:58. | |
unusual for a person convicted of murder to be allowed out on bail | :17:59. | :18:05. | |
pending a hearing. Why do you think he should be allowed out on bail? We | :18:06. | :18:11. | |
have quite a strong case, we think, for bail. The legal team have worked | :18:12. | :18:15. | |
hard to put together a strong application. We just need to be able | :18:16. | :18:19. | |
to convince the judges this afternoon. How often do you manage | :18:20. | :18:22. | |
to speak to him? Pretty much every evening. And how is he? He is good, | :18:23. | :18:29. | |
he is incredible, I don't know how he does it but he keeps his spirits | :18:30. | :18:33. | |
up and keeps busy. Tell us more about how this has impacted on you | :18:34. | :18:38. | |
and your family? Obviously it has been really hard, I suppose in a way | :18:39. | :18:43. | |
being the wife of a Royal Marines who has served on as many tours as | :18:44. | :18:48. | |
he has we are used to the time apart. This is obviously exceptional | :18:49. | :18:52. | |
and it would be really nice to think that this afternoon we could have | :18:53. | :18:56. | |
him home and have some time back together. | :18:57. | :18:58. | |
You and your husband do have a lot of support in this but equally there | :18:59. | :19:04. | |
will be people who say, well, what about the family of the man he | :19:05. | :19:10. | |
killed? He killed a man. What do you say? You know, it's difficult, | :19:11. | :19:14. | |
everybody's entitled to their opinion and I don't for one minute | :19:15. | :19:19. | |
wish to diminish the impact on anybody's family, where somebody has | :19:20. | :19:23. | |
lost. But this was war, it was exceptional circumstances. You and I | :19:24. | :19:29. | |
will fortunately never experience that. I don't think we can, | :19:30. | :19:32. | |
therefore, really understand what happened. The judge said he killed | :19:33. | :19:42. | |
in cold blood. It was a difficult trial and there were many things | :19:43. | :19:47. | |
that were said and the CCRC's decision now to go back and look | :19:48. | :19:51. | |
over that trial and look at the many things that didn't happen and should | :19:52. | :19:54. | |
have happened is what gives us the most hope that actually we can move | :19:55. | :19:58. | |
this case forward now. It is focusing on his state of mind | :19:59. | :20:03. | |
at the time? That is one of the main arguments, | :20:04. | :20:07. | |
as we understand it. Tell us more about him. I asked how | :20:08. | :20:14. | |
it has impacted on you and the family. What about him? | :20:15. | :20:22. | |
Well, I think, to be honest, the training that Royal Marines receive | :20:23. | :20:26. | |
has set him up well to cope with the environment that he's in. He's happy | :20:27. | :20:30. | |
with the regime, he is happy with discipline, he's making the best of | :20:31. | :20:33. | |
his time, he is working, he's studying, he's doing a degree and | :20:34. | :20:38. | |
he's going to the gym as much as he can. He's doing everything he can to | :20:39. | :20:41. | |
keep positive and pass the time. What happens after today? Obviously | :20:42. | :20:45. | |
today it's possible he will be released on bail and will be home | :20:46. | :20:50. | |
with you just prior to your wedding anniversary. Yes. Equally he may not | :20:51. | :20:58. | |
be. Yes, and I suppose the best way for us to look at it is that bail | :20:59. | :21:02. | |
would be the icing on the cake. The biggest, most important decision we | :21:03. | :21:07. | |
have had is the referral back to the Appeal Courts, that's the important | :21:08. | :21:10. | |
thing we need to focus on. Bail would be wonderful, absolutely, but | :21:11. | :21:13. | |
getting back to the Appeal Courts and getting the conviction and the | :21:14. | :21:18. | |
sentence potentially overturned is our main focus. | :21:19. | :21:22. | |
We have talked about the level of support that you have had. Four | :21:23. | :21:27. | |
people have come forward to stump up ?50,000 each in bail money. That's | :21:28. | :21:31. | |
obviously a sort of financial offer, an offer of financial assistance, | :21:32. | :21:36. | |
how much has that support and other support you have received actually | :21:37. | :21:40. | |
meant to you? It's incredible. I find it really | :21:41. | :21:44. | |
hard to put into words what a difference that support makes, to | :21:45. | :21:47. | |
feel like the whole country is behind us, just gives as energy and | :21:48. | :21:51. | |
motivation to keep going. What's your life like on a daily | :21:52. | :21:57. | |
basis? Do you just kind of carry on as you were before? | :21:58. | :22:00. | |
I have settled into a routine. It's obviously not the routine I would | :22:01. | :22:04. | |
choose but it's fine. I have fantastic support from family and | :22:05. | :22:08. | |
friends and I have plenty to do with the campaign. It keeps me busy. | :22:09. | :22:12. | |
Thank you very much indeed for coming in to talk to us, Claire | :22:13. | :22:17. | |
Blackman. Thank you. We will cover what happens at that hearing today | :22:18. | :22:20. | |
and let you know the outcome on BBC News. | :22:21. | :22:24. | |
Five years ago Rupert Ross was jailed for life for murder along | :22:25. | :22:30. | |
with another man. The victim was Darcy Austin Bruce Forsyth he was | :22:31. | :22:33. | |
shot five times at close range outside Wandsworth prison in south | :22:34. | :22:38. | |
London but Rupert Ross's mother thought her son had been wrongfully | :22:39. | :22:41. | |
convicted and set about trying to prove it. She wanted to find out the | :22:42. | :22:45. | |
identity of a woman who gave evidence anonymously against Ross at | :22:46. | :22:48. | |
his trial which meant obtaining confidential details of the witness | :22:49. | :22:53. | |
from a police database. Two civilian police staff who accessed the | :22:54. | :23:00. | |
computer were found guilty. His girlfriend and her will be sentenced | :23:01. | :23:04. | |
next month. But Diana was cleared off the two juries failed to reach | :23:05. | :23:08. | |
verdicts on her. In her first interview she has been speaking to | :23:09. | :23:10. | |
our home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw. | :23:11. | :23:14. | |
Why did you take the risk of going to prison? I started looking into, | :23:15. | :23:25. | |
after Rupert and Leon's conviction, I sat down and I started reading the | :23:26. | :23:32. | |
papers, the legal papers and Rupert and Leon had always said to me that | :23:33. | :23:36. | |
they did not do the murder. And you believe them? | :23:37. | :23:43. | |
100%, 100%. There had been cracks in the trial, stuff that was not | :23:44. | :23:52. | |
disclosed, and stuff that Rupert and Leon had always said this doesn't | :23:53. | :23:55. | |
seem right, this doesn't seem right. So I started investigating and | :23:56. | :24:02. | |
looking into certain things to see if what they said was not correct, | :24:03. | :24:07. | |
well, not correct, but wasn't accurate. You had doubts about the | :24:08. | :24:13. | |
convictions, serious doubts. Yes. But most people who have a loved one | :24:14. | :24:17. | |
who think they have been wrongly convicted don't go to the lengths | :24:18. | :24:22. | |
that you went to and don't risk wrecking the law and being sent to | :24:23. | :24:27. | |
jail for it. Why did you do that? A copy of an image was shown at | :24:28. | :24:30. | |
Rupert's trial that wasn't clear so I wanted the original image from the | :24:31. | :24:39. | |
camera. And I got nowhere. I hired private detectives, I had face | :24:40. | :24:50. | |
recognition experts, I went to other experts to enhance the CCTV. I went | :24:51. | :24:53. | |
from door to door knocking on people's doors asking if the police | :24:54. | :24:59. | |
had ever asked for their CCTV. I felt that the investigation that the | :25:00. | :25:06. | |
police had done at the time was inadequate. It didn't seem like they | :25:07. | :25:12. | |
had fully investigated every avenue. So at what point, after you had | :25:13. | :25:17. | |
taken all of the steps, did it occur to you that actually you might have | :25:18. | :25:24. | |
to do something completely underhand here and find out the details of an | :25:25. | :25:28. | |
anonymous witness at Rupert Ross's trial? | :25:29. | :25:34. | |
At the trial there had been an independent anonymous witness who | :25:35. | :25:40. | |
had gone in as an independent witness, and it was only when we had | :25:41. | :25:48. | |
changed the legal team for the appeal that I've actually met with a | :25:49. | :25:57. | |
QC who been at the trial who said the anonymous witness is more key | :25:58. | :26:03. | |
than what you're doing. So you have to find more details about the | :26:04. | :26:08. | |
anonymous witness? He said you need to discredit the anonymous witness. | :26:09. | :26:12. | |
How can you do that if they are anonymous? I started off by asking | :26:13. | :26:19. | |
on the street. Fulham is a huge hub of people and I asked around, and I | :26:20. | :26:27. | |
had actually been given names of certain people. And then Leon who | :26:28. | :26:39. | |
had gone out with Lydia Lauro, had given me some names to give to her | :26:40. | :26:48. | |
to look up the names. You must have realised at that point that what | :26:49. | :26:53. | |
that entailed was against the law, was against police rules and against | :26:54. | :26:58. | |
the law? I don't think I realised the enormity of the seriousness of | :26:59. | :27:05. | |
it. But you did it nonetheless? Yes. Yes. But you felt justified in doing | :27:06. | :27:13. | |
it at that time? 100%. Curse you had tried all other avenues? Absolutely. | :27:14. | :27:19. | |
-- because you have tried all other avenues. Some people might say that | :27:20. | :27:22. | |
is all very well but that witness was anonymous for a reason. When we | :27:23. | :27:26. | |
actually found out that it wasn't an independent witness, but she did | :27:27. | :27:32. | |
have connections with people close to the murder, I think that's quite | :27:33. | :27:39. | |
shocking that the police had held all of this back. But you discovered | :27:40. | :27:42. | |
that information after you found out the name illicitly. Yes. And two | :27:43. | :27:50. | |
innocent people had gone to prison. But some people would say that | :27:51. | :27:56. | |
balancing your right to investigate miscarriages of justice with the | :27:57. | :27:59. | |
right of the criminal justice system to keep some witnesses who come | :28:00. | :28:03. | |
forward anonymous to safeguard their identity because they are scared or | :28:04. | :28:07. | |
vulnerable and that happens in other cases as well. I don't think | :28:08. | :28:09. | |
anonymous witnesses are used that often. In my trial, the trial was | :28:10. | :28:17. | |
opened up that it was rare to use the anonymous witness. I imagine it | :28:18. | :28:24. | |
is quite a dangerous thing to do to use anonymous witnesses. Now you've | :28:25. | :28:29. | |
got the information about that witness's identity and some | :28:30. | :28:32. | |
background details, where does that leave your son's case? The legal | :28:33. | :28:37. | |
people are now going to take the information that we have received | :28:38. | :28:42. | |
through my two trials to the CCRC. Criminal Cases Review Commission? | :28:43. | :28:48. | |
That's correct. You hope to get a fresh appeal? Yes. The judgment was | :28:49. | :28:54. | |
very decisive against them. Yes, because they haven't been given all | :28:55. | :28:58. | |
of it, they had only been given a percentage of the information. IU | :28:59. | :29:01. | |
hopeful that the conviction will be quashed? Yes. It is a shame that | :29:02. | :29:07. | |
this has to happen. To find out the truth. I think it's really sad. -- | :29:08. | :29:12. | |
are you hopeful. We will be live until 11am as usual | :29:13. | :29:18. | |
and also we will have the latest from Eastern Aleppo live. There is a | :29:19. | :29:21. | |
report that the evacuation of citizens has been suspended after | :29:22. | :29:24. | |
four blasts were heard at a location from where buses had been departing. | :29:25. | :29:30. | |
Plus, an extra special Christmas for two and a half -year-old Ben Cooper. | :29:31. | :29:33. | |
Around this time last year he was undergoing emergency surgery on his | :29:34. | :29:39. | |
brain after being critically ill with meningitis. We will be joined | :29:40. | :29:43. | |
by Ben, his mum and his brother and the surgeon who saved Ben's life. | :29:44. | :29:48. | |
Let's catch up with all the news within Eton. -- Annita McVeigh. It | :29:49. | :29:59. | |
has been reported in the last half-hour that the evacuation of | :30:00. | :30:03. | |
civilians and fighters from the Syrian city of Aleppo has halted. | :30:04. | :30:06. | |
Around three thousand people, including hundreds of children, | :30:07. | :30:08. | |
were transported out of the city yesterday. | :30:09. | :30:10. | |
It's thought there are 50,000 people still waiting to leave. | :30:11. | :30:12. | |
President Barack Obama has said the US will take action | :30:13. | :30:15. | |
against Russia for what he calls "interfering in the US election". | :30:16. | :30:17. | |
The White House has said the Russian President, | :30:18. | :30:19. | |
Vladimir Putin, knew about the hacking of | :30:20. | :30:21. | |
Democratic Party email accounts during the campaign. | :30:22. | :30:23. | |
The Kremlin says the claims are nonsense. | :30:24. | :30:25. | |
A Royal Marine found guilty of murdering an injured Afghan | :30:26. | :30:28. | |
fighter is today asking senior judges to grant him bail. | :30:29. | :30:32. | |
Sergeant Alexander Blackman - known as Marine A - | :30:33. | :30:35. | |
was jailed in 2013 and sentenced to life imprisonment | :30:36. | :30:37. | |
He has been granted the right to appeal his conviction. | :30:38. | :30:45. | |
Theresa May has told EU leaders that she wants an early agreement | :30:46. | :30:48. | |
on the status of British people living on the continent, | :30:49. | :30:51. | |
She was talking ahead of the latest Brexit talks in Brussels. | :30:52. | :30:57. | |
The leaders of the other 27 member states agreed | :30:58. | :31:05. | |
There has been concern in other countries about the status of their | :31:06. | :31:10. | |
National 's in the country when it leaves the EU. | :31:11. | :31:11. | |
The leaders of the other 27 member states agreed | :31:12. | :31:13. | |
that the European Parliament would have a formal role | :31:14. | :31:16. | |
Thousands of Southern rail commuters are facing more disruption | :31:17. | :31:19. | |
after talks aimed at resolving the dispute ended without agreement. | :31:20. | :31:21. | |
Drivers on the network began a 24-hour stoppage at midnight. | :31:22. | :31:24. | |
Passengers have already endured two days of disruption this week | :31:25. | :31:26. | |
and last night fed up commuters held protests outside the | :31:27. | :31:28. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10am. | :31:29. | :31:39. | |
See you later. Let's catch up with the latest sports with Jess. | :31:40. | :31:49. | |
England's cricketers are playing for pride in the fifth and final test in | :31:50. | :31:56. | |
India. Moeen Ali and true roots steadied the ship, Root was | :31:57. | :31:59. | |
controversially given out and 88. The visitors are currently 208-3. | :32:00. | :32:01. | |
Valtteri Bottas is being lined up to replace retired world champion | :32:02. | :32:04. | |
Williams say they are prepared to release the 27-year-old | :32:05. | :32:07. | |
is an experienced, credible alternative is available. | :32:08. | :32:11. | |
Ronnie O'Sullivan is through to the quarter-finals | :32:12. | :32:15. | |
of the Scottish Open snooker in Glasgow. | :32:16. | :32:17. | |
He'll now play a very in-form John Higgins who won two matches | :32:18. | :32:21. | |
I will be back with a bit more sport at around 10am. And the twinkly | :32:22. | :32:36. | |
jumper is still in action! Thank you. | :32:37. | :32:37. | |
This morning an exclusive interview with the mother of two-and-a-half | :32:38. | :32:40. | |
year old Ben Cooper, who had a life-saving operation | :32:41. | :32:42. | |
in Great Ormond Street Hospital last Christmas. | :32:43. | :32:43. | |
Ben had just started to take his first steps | :32:44. | :32:46. | |
when he became critically ill with meningitis. | :32:47. | :32:47. | |
While most people were spending Christmas day opening presents | :32:48. | :32:49. | |
with their loved ones, Ben had emergency | :32:50. | :32:51. | |
After three months in hospital, Ben is now back at home | :32:52. | :32:56. | |
and Christmas will be an extra special celebration | :32:57. | :32:58. | |
Ben's here today with his mum Viki and his twin brother James. | :32:59. | :33:07. | |
And we're reuniting them with Mr Owase Jeelani - | :33:08. | :33:09. | |
the neurosurgeon who saved Ben's life on Christmas Day - | :33:10. | :33:12. | |
who's at Great Ormond Street hospital working this morning. | :33:13. | :33:17. | |
We will talk to him as well. Thank you so much for coming in, it is | :33:18. | :33:26. | |
great to see your wall. Hello, boys. Tell us, Fed, you had obviously an | :33:27. | :33:30. | |
absolutely dreadful time last Christmas because both of the boys | :33:31. | :33:35. | |
had been poorly, but it was really Ben who took a turn for the worse? | :33:36. | :33:41. | |
We just assume that we had a cop/ cold going on with everybody, | :33:42. | :33:46. | |
unfortunately in a couple of days Ben deteriorated, it is clear he was | :33:47. | :33:50. | |
not his usual self, he became quite subdued and we sought additional | :33:51. | :33:55. | |
help. Unfortunately, they thought it was a virus, it was a few days | :33:56. | :33:59. | |
before we realise the extent of how seriously are all he was. It was | :34:00. | :34:05. | |
meningitis. None of the classic symptoms? No, it was that viral | :34:06. | :34:09. | |
meningitis and there was no rash or anything you would expect to see, he | :34:10. | :34:14. | |
became more and more unwell until he was unresponsive, we could not get | :34:15. | :34:17. | |
him to wake up, talk or respond in any way, so we called an ambulance. | :34:18. | :34:31. | |
You ended up in Great Ormond Street? Within 24 hours, yes. At the local | :34:32. | :34:33. | |
hospital they were doing everything they could to understand, but when | :34:34. | :34:35. | |
they said Great Ormond Street are coming to collect Ben, that is when | :34:36. | :34:38. | |
I knew it was quite serious. They don't have many children in their | :34:39. | :34:41. | |
intensive care unit, if my child is one of the sickest in the country, | :34:42. | :34:46. | |
it is serious. Horrendous, how did you feel? Terrified, we thought we | :34:47. | :34:51. | |
would lose him. It was Christmas Eve when he really took a turn for the | :34:52. | :34:55. | |
worse and had swelling on the brain? At that stage he had come out of the | :34:56. | :34:59. | |
induced coma and it looked as though things were recovering OK, on | :35:00. | :35:02. | |
Christmas Eve, things were going well for the first part of the | :35:03. | :35:07. | |
evening, I stayed over, the tension is spent part of Christmas with Ben | :35:08. | :35:13. | |
and part with James, it was difficult to juggle. But the nurse | :35:14. | :35:17. | |
woke me up and said, he has gone downhill, I have called the doctor, | :35:18. | :35:20. | |
I think we might have the problem. That was the start of a very, very | :35:21. | :35:27. | |
difficult 204I was. What were you told before his surgery? That there | :35:28. | :35:31. | |
was fluid building on the brain, they needed to relieve the pressure | :35:32. | :35:35. | |
and the easiest way was to do surgery straightaway. Obviously they | :35:36. | :35:39. | |
did not have plans for surgery on Christmas Day, they do not intended, | :35:40. | :35:46. | |
so it was calling people from home to help Ben, which was very scary. | :35:47. | :35:53. | |
Owase, you wouldn't know it -- the neurosurgeon who performed that | :35:54. | :35:59. | |
surgery. When you arrived at hospital, what were your thoughts on | :36:00. | :36:02. | |
how serious the situation was for Ben? | :36:03. | :36:08. | |
It is good to have Ben again. Ben was in a critical condition when he | :36:09. | :36:15. | |
came to us. The meningitis was clearly full-blown at that time. He | :36:16. | :36:20. | |
needed a lot of supportive management to stabilise him. A lot | :36:21. | :36:24. | |
of the complications that can occur with meningitis is raised pressure | :36:25. | :36:27. | |
in the head, which can be life-threatening if untreated. We | :36:28. | :36:33. | |
have seen this scenario with the children, when we were told about | :36:34. | :36:36. | |
Ben and had been monitoring him it was clear that he needed urgent | :36:37. | :36:41. | |
intervention to treat the pressure. Failure to do that could potentially | :36:42. | :36:45. | |
be catastrophic. It is never an easy time to be at | :36:46. | :36:49. | |
Great Ormond Street for children of families, these are often very sick | :36:50. | :36:53. | |
children, particularly at Christmas time when we are meant to be at home | :36:54. | :36:58. | |
with the families, loved ones. That has an extra layer of, I suppose, | :36:59. | :37:06. | |
complexity of emotions. Great Ormond Street runs 24/7, the nature of the | :37:07. | :37:10. | |
workers that there are specialist teams, allied health care | :37:11. | :37:15. | |
professionals available 24/7, Christmas is no exception. Kids like | :37:16. | :37:28. | |
Ben fall ill at Christmas and need help and care. From the standpoint | :37:29. | :37:30. | |
of you, everybody is in a Christmas mood and it is that extra feeling | :37:31. | :37:33. | |
that we are trying to give and do our best for the families and | :37:34. | :37:36. | |
children under our care on Christmas Day, it is part of the Christmas | :37:37. | :37:39. | |
spirit. Viki, I don't think you have spoken to Owase since the surgery? I | :37:40. | :37:43. | |
don't think so. It is good to bring you back together, what would you | :37:44. | :37:48. | |
like to say? I can't thank him and the team enough, they have given us | :37:49. | :37:52. | |
Ben back, there was a stage where we did not think that would happen. | :37:53. | :37:55. | |
They are wonderful at the hospital, they really are. It is an absolute | :37:56. | :38:01. | |
pleasure to be able to help in any way that we can add to see Ben doing | :38:02. | :38:09. | |
so well is an absolute pleasure. It must be nice to see what happens | :38:10. | :38:15. | |
sometime after the surgery, you are performing life-saving surgery all | :38:16. | :38:18. | |
the time and impacting on lives in ways that it is sometimes difficult | :38:19. | :38:23. | |
to keep track of, I guess? It is precisely this that keeps us | :38:24. | :38:28. | |
going, it is very challenging work, working with young children, very | :38:29. | :38:32. | |
sick children, seeing kids recover like Ben has and carry on and lead | :38:33. | :38:37. | |
fulfilling lives, it gives is the energy to keep going, dealing with | :38:38. | :38:45. | |
such cases. Hell is Ben? Doing very well, he has recently started | :38:46. | :38:48. | |
school, which is quite young at two and a half, but he is in a special | :38:49. | :38:52. | |
school with a very supportive environment and lots of therapy. A | :38:53. | :38:57. | |
little bit of his hearing has come back, he has got a cochlear device | :38:58. | :39:02. | |
fitted, he is using his hands in a way he has not before Anders | :39:03. | :39:07. | |
vocalising and trying to communicate, positive things | :39:08. | :39:09. | |
happening, we have a long way to go but he is doing very, very well. He | :39:10. | :39:15. | |
has a bright future ahead. He is a happy boy, all I can hope is that he | :39:16. | :39:20. | |
enjoyed life coming he clearly is. How has James been about it? His | :39:21. | :39:25. | |
twin? Because they were so young when it happened, he does not | :39:26. | :39:29. | |
remember life before. From James' point of view, this is how things | :39:30. | :39:33. | |
are with Ben. His first thought when he comes from preschool or the | :39:34. | :39:38. | |
childminder is Ben, he rushes to him and is keen to see him. Thank you | :39:39. | :39:43. | |
darling, that is very helpful. Come and sit me. | :39:44. | :39:49. | |
Ben has had a lot of surgery since the life-saving surgery, will that | :39:50. | :39:53. | |
up to continue? Hopefully not too much, he has had several pieces of | :39:54. | :39:56. | |
surgery on his brain but we hope there will not be too much more, | :39:57. | :40:01. | |
there is also surgery, he has a tube for feeding and medication due to be | :40:02. | :40:04. | |
put into his stomach eventually. He might have to have hip surgery, the | :40:05. | :40:10. | |
cerebral palsy means his hips are not in position, that will worsen as | :40:11. | :40:16. | |
he gets older. He was only working for one month -- walking for one | :40:17. | :40:19. | |
month so his hips had not really formed, we are not sure whether he | :40:20. | :40:22. | |
will be able to get back upright. He can't sit or hold his head about the | :40:23. | :40:26. | |
moment but we are working on that with physio and he is showing signs | :40:27. | :40:31. | |
of supporting his own head, who knows where he will end up? He has | :40:32. | :40:35. | |
little seizures which distract from everything he is trying to do at the | :40:36. | :40:41. | |
time. Some of his site is coming back, it is evolving? He is still | :40:42. | :40:45. | |
recovering from meningitis, I have heard that the damage to the brain | :40:46. | :40:49. | |
from the meningitis and the recovery period can take up to two McCready | :40:50. | :40:53. | |
is, he is only two and a heart so his brain is just about thing | :40:54. | :40:57. | |
anyway. The two things are in parallel so I think it will be a few | :40:58. | :41:01. | |
years before we know what he can do and where he will end up, in terms | :41:02. | :41:05. | |
of ability. Surgery is not scheduled on | :41:06. | :41:10. | |
Christmas Day, but life happens. How often are you called in on Christmas | :41:11. | :41:17. | |
Day? It's interesting, quite often. | :41:18. | :41:20. | |
Within the neurosurgery department there would always be 18, 20 four | :41:21. | :41:26. | |
sevenths, present at the hospital, and the consultants would always | :41:27. | :41:29. | |
come in every day of the year to do rounds and see the patient. If | :41:30. | :41:33. | |
emergency surgery needs to take place, there was always a consultant | :41:34. | :41:38. | |
available. It is the nature of the work and the critical nature of the | :41:39. | :41:41. | |
children that we need to provide that work. As I mentioned, it is | :41:42. | :41:48. | |
really seeing kids recover which really just gives us all the energy | :41:49. | :41:53. | |
to carry on year-on-year, on Christmas Day, the other days, it is | :41:54. | :41:58. | |
an absolute pleasure to see how well Ben is doing. | :41:59. | :42:02. | |
Viki, very different Christmas for you? We are really looking forward | :42:03. | :42:05. | |
to it, not least because the boys are starting to understand. Someone | :42:06. | :42:09. | |
is very excited and talks about it all the time, it will be lovely to | :42:10. | :42:13. | |
have him at home and not do the juggling act and wondering what will | :42:14. | :42:18. | |
happen every day at the hospital, I am looking forward rather than | :42:19. | :42:22. | |
worrying about the day-to-day stuff. James, are you excited about | :42:23. | :42:26. | |
Christmas? Are you looking forward to seeing Father Christmas? Yes. Had | :42:27. | :42:33. | |
you asked for lots of presents? I don't think he understands the | :42:34. | :42:39. | |
concept. He will when he gets them! It is great to talk to you all. Have | :42:40. | :42:43. | |
a lovely Christmas. Thank you. Coming up, I've been speaking | :42:44. | :42:46. | |
to Judy Murray about the incredible We also talked about her hopes | :42:47. | :42:48. | |
for her granddaughter, the weather in Scotland and why | :42:49. | :42:52. | |
she works so tirelessly to get Let's bring you up to date with | :42:53. | :42:55. | |
Aleppo. There are reports an operation | :42:56. | :43:10. | |
to evacuate civilians and rebel fighters from the eastern parts | :43:11. | :43:13. | |
of the Syrian city of Aleppo Syrian officials have accused | :43:14. | :43:15. | |
the rebel side of breaching According to the Russian defence | :43:16. | :43:18. | |
ministry, more than six thousand people have left Aleppo | :43:19. | :43:22. | |
since the operation We caught up with Zouhir Al Shimale | :43:23. | :43:24. | |
earlier this week, who's a freelance He's posted this update | :43:25. | :43:31. | |
on social media as he waited This is the last message I'm | :43:32. | :43:35. | |
going to send from here. As you can see in the background, | :43:36. | :43:46. | |
cars are heading to the area It's heartbreaking sending | :43:47. | :43:55. | |
the last message for me, from my neighbourhood where I used | :43:56. | :44:00. | |
to live and report A group of doctors is taking medical | :44:01. | :44:02. | |
equipment to help build a hospital. It is hoped the hospital will help | :44:03. | :44:25. | |
treat thousands of children Also travelling with her is British | :44:26. | :44:40. | |
journalist Paul Conroy, he was injured in an attack in the Syrian | :44:41. | :44:49. | |
city of Jess in 2012. -- city of Homs. | :44:50. | :44:52. | |
We can also speak to two aid workers currently looking after Syrian | :44:53. | :44:55. | |
refugees in the middle east - Dr Renee Bou raad in Beirut | :44:56. | :44:58. | |
This was your idea, three weeks ago you had the idea that you wanted to | :44:59. | :45:04. | |
get a crowdfunding campaign together to build a hospital? What made you | :45:05. | :45:08. | |
think of doing that? It was approximately three weeks ago when | :45:09. | :45:12. | |
the last remaining five hospitals in eastern Aleppo were bombed, I felt | :45:13. | :45:16. | |
so incredibly devastated, I felt like I had lost a family member. | :45:17. | :45:20. | |
I've been working on the humanitarian response in Syria in | :45:21. | :45:23. | |
the last five years, this is the sixth hospital I am involved in | :45:24. | :45:34. | |
building in Syria, I was so devastated at the tragedy of these | :45:35. | :45:37. | |
war crimes, bombing a hospital is a war crime. We have documented over | :45:38. | :45:40. | |
380 of them. I knew that so many people were feeling the | :45:41. | :45:41. | |
powerlessness and devastation of wanting to do something for Syria | :45:42. | :45:44. | |
but there was nothing to get behind, I wanted a bold, positive action, | :45:45. | :45:49. | |
that is where the idea came from that I wanted to bring to life the | :45:50. | :45:53. | |
issue of bombing of hospitals, so by building a new hospital, the last | :45:54. | :45:58. | |
Children's Hospital in Aleppo was bombed, that's why a children's | :45:59. | :46:02. | |
hospital was needed, and I thought that the governments were really | :46:03. | :46:05. | |
failing. People want to and can act, this is our way of doing it. It was | :46:06. | :46:08. | |
incredible. What are the logistics, how will you | :46:09. | :46:19. | |
do it? Amazingly we raised over ?92,000 in eight days. So that will | :46:20. | :46:24. | |
go to build a whole new hospital in the Aleppo countryside. We are | :46:25. | :46:26. | |
taking on Saturday all of the equipment that will go to the | :46:27. | :46:33. | |
hospital, ventilators, incubators, cots, stethoscopes, everything you | :46:34. | :46:35. | |
need for a hospital and we will travel across Europe with it as a | :46:36. | :46:40. | |
show of solidarity and support to the phenomenal and courageous Syrian | :46:41. | :46:44. | |
doctors and humanitarians and we will hand over the equipment to the | :46:45. | :46:48. | |
Syrian NGO independent doctors Association and they were set up the | :46:49. | :46:52. | |
hospital so they will then take the equipment over the border from | :46:53. | :46:57. | |
Turkey into Syria and setting of the hospital. As we speak we have been | :46:58. | :47:00. | |
getting reports that the ceasefire in Aleppo, which has enabled people | :47:01. | :47:05. | |
to be taken out of Eastern Aleppo in convoys has ended. The United | :47:06. | :47:11. | |
Nations is now confirming that the operation to evacuate people from | :47:12. | :47:16. | |
eastern Aleppo has ended. Elizabeth Hough, the UN representative in | :47:17. | :47:19. | |
Syria, has just spoken at a news conference in Geneva a short while | :47:20. | :47:24. | |
ago. Let's hear what she said. A few minutes ago the operation was | :47:25. | :47:29. | |
aborted and the ICSC and WHO were informed to leave the area with | :47:30. | :47:34. | |
ambulances and buses. No reason has been explained for | :47:35. | :47:40. | |
this information. I would like to inform you that so far 147 patients | :47:41. | :47:50. | |
have been received at the transit .2-macro. That's the confirmation | :47:51. | :47:59. | |
that the ceasefire is over. Rola it underlines how changing the | :48:00. | :48:05. | |
situation is, how volatile the situation is. You are obviously | :48:06. | :48:10. | |
going to be going into this environment, this was on. You have | :48:11. | :48:14. | |
been there before. Do you have concerns for your own safety? We | :48:15. | :48:21. | |
will go to the Turkey- Syria border and colleagues will carry out the | :48:22. | :48:25. | |
setting up of the hospital. Of course, being a doctor or a | :48:26. | :48:28. | |
humanitarian has become one of the most dangerous jobs in the world, | :48:29. | :48:32. | |
and certainly in Syria alongside being a journalist, and it just | :48:33. | :48:35. | |
shows you the brutality and war crimes and scale of it that is | :48:36. | :48:39. | |
happening. I am often getting asked that, aren't you worried that the | :48:40. | :48:44. | |
hospital will get bombed, and the answer is absolutely, of course, | :48:45. | :48:53. | |
that's ridiculous to say, hospital shouldn't be bombed, it is enshrined | :48:54. | :48:55. | |
in humanitarian laws and that's why we need the United Nations and | :48:56. | :48:58. | |
international community to put aside politics and ideologies and all of | :48:59. | :49:00. | |
these things and say, there are international legal, moral and | :49:01. | :49:04. | |
ethical standards that we need to uphold and these war crimes can't | :49:05. | :49:07. | |
continue with impunity and it is only them provide the situation | :49:08. | :49:11. | |
otherwise I fear for the lives of my colleagues every single day. Paul | :49:12. | :49:16. | |
Conroy is a British journalist who will travel with the convoy. You | :49:17. | :49:22. | |
were injured in Homs in Syria in 2012 in the same incident that | :49:23. | :49:27. | |
killed Marie Colvin. You haven't been back. How are you feeling about | :49:28. | :49:33. | |
going back? I'm feeling good about going back. I've spent five years | :49:34. | :49:40. | |
from various hospital beds in England is doing what I can on the | :49:41. | :49:46. | |
political side, on any side really, to keep the Syrian story on the news | :49:47. | :49:55. | |
agenda. And when Roller called me to say do you want to take this convoy | :49:56. | :50:01. | |
in I was delighted and instantly answered yes. With regards to the | :50:02. | :50:06. | |
question you have just asked about the failed ceasefires and failed | :50:07. | :50:11. | |
policies, don't forget we are sitting down and listening to people | :50:12. | :50:18. | |
who are presidents, who in fact should be sitting behind jails and | :50:19. | :50:25. | |
bars in the Hague and that is how close we are to finishing this | :50:26. | :50:29. | |
conflict. We are no closer now than we were five years ago, and this | :50:30. | :50:33. | |
government backed by Russia, backed by Iran, have no other policy other | :50:34. | :50:41. | |
than to regain the whole of Syria no matter what cost. That cost is human | :50:42. | :50:54. | |
life. You said that obviously you believe the hospital may well be | :50:55. | :50:58. | |
targeted. What do you think you can achieve, if you go in and set | :50:59. | :51:00. | |
something up and it's wiped out again? So, I think our job as medics | :51:01. | :51:06. | |
and humanitarians is to save lives and we will not be stopped by war | :51:07. | :51:10. | |
criminals from doing the life-saving work we need to do. I think that's | :51:11. | :51:14. | |
the oath that we have taken as doctors and humanitarians to do | :51:15. | :51:20. | |
that. Now we are calling upon everyone else, especially | :51:21. | :51:25. | |
politicians, to do their job. It is our job to save lives and build | :51:26. | :51:28. | |
hospitals but it is theirs to make sure hospitals don't get bombed. The | :51:29. | :51:32. | |
fault is absolutely with the perpetrator and those who watch it | :51:33. | :51:37. | |
and do nothing. I hold them responsible for the safety of my | :51:38. | :51:42. | |
colleagues and of patients in the hospitals. I don't know if you have | :51:43. | :51:45. | |
seen the images of hospitals being bombed while children are being | :51:46. | :51:48. | |
treated by chemical attacks and chlorine gas attacks. It is a war | :51:49. | :51:53. | |
crime laid upon a war crime and we are watching it all in real-time on | :51:54. | :51:57. | |
our TV screens like a horror show and allowing it to continue. Renee | :51:58. | :52:07. | |
Bou Raad, you work for Medecins Sans Frontieres in Aleppo. When people | :52:08. | :52:16. | |
get to you after having gone through what they have enjoyed in Aleppo | :52:17. | :52:19. | |
what sort of state are there in? Well, first of all, you can imagine | :52:20. | :52:26. | |
these refugees first of all are fleeing immediate threat and danger | :52:27. | :52:33. | |
to their own lives. They are packing anything they can get hold of. It | :52:34. | :52:37. | |
could be basic clothing. Sometimes they don't even have their own | :52:38. | :52:40. | |
personal documents with them and they are fleeing across the borders, | :52:41. | :52:45. | |
so it could be a decision they take on the spot. Most of them come | :52:46. | :52:49. | |
seeking shelter, they are in dire social economic need, they need | :52:50. | :52:58. | |
health care, they need shelter. So it's a real humanitarian crisis for | :52:59. | :53:08. | |
these refugees. The resilience that they have to have to get through | :53:09. | :53:12. | |
having lived in that city for four years, seeing so much of it reduced | :53:13. | :53:18. | |
to rubble, hospitals attacked, reports of chemical weapons attacks. | :53:19. | :53:20. | |
The resilience must be extraordinary. Yes, absolutely. A | :53:21. | :53:29. | |
lot of them, when you actually talk to some of the refugees and the | :53:30. | :53:32. | |
patients in the clinics, most of them express the hope that one day | :53:33. | :53:38. | |
they can return back to their country. But unfortunately, to what | :53:39. | :53:43. | |
they are not sure they would be returning to. Most of their homes | :53:44. | :53:47. | |
have been destroyed. But most of them, basically my now with the war | :53:48. | :53:52. | |
going on for so long, really hope just to have a stable future for | :53:53. | :53:58. | |
themselves and for their children as well, be that in Syria or anywhere | :53:59. | :54:04. | |
else they can find. So they remain hopeful. Omar Gharebo, you are | :54:05. | :54:12. | |
working in a refugee camp in Byzantium in Turkey. How many people | :54:13. | :54:15. | |
are coming to you and what are the needs you are seeing? -- Gaziantep. | :54:16. | :54:32. | |
More than 5000 are coming from Aleppo. They are coming to the city. | :54:33. | :54:44. | |
All of the organisations are distributing refugees to other | :54:45. | :54:56. | |
cities or other communities. We at Human Care and another organisation | :54:57. | :55:07. | |
work hard to provide the needs of refugees coming from Aleppo, the | :55:08. | :55:10. | |
needs of food, shelter or other needs. Paul Conroy, how important is | :55:11. | :55:17. | |
it to you to be involved in this and to tell the story of what is | :55:18. | :55:22. | |
happening there? Extremely important. Just going back to the | :55:23. | :55:25. | |
point that these crimes have been going on for five years. Marie | :55:26. | :55:30. | |
Colvin died reporting these crimes. This isn't a revelation what is | :55:31. | :55:38. | |
happening, it has been documented for five years and the fact the | :55:39. | :55:43. | |
international community has sat for five whole years. Can you imagine if | :55:44. | :55:49. | |
there was a lone gunman going around London shooting people, the reaction | :55:50. | :55:52. | |
there would be. And we are looking here at up to 500,000 people | :55:53. | :55:57. | |
starved, killed, most of the population be housed, utter terror | :55:58. | :56:05. | |
and chaos. The siege in Homs was medieval. They were starving, there | :56:06. | :56:10. | |
was no water, there was no medicine. And what will happen, and I can | :56:11. | :56:15. | |
guarantee this, and it sickens me to be able to guarantee it, that once | :56:16. | :56:19. | |
the siege of Aleppo is completely broken, what happens then is all of | :56:20. | :56:22. | |
those forces that were surrounding the town of Aleppo then open up and | :56:23. | :56:27. | |
fan out into the countryside and what we have next is the scorched | :56:28. | :56:31. | |
earth policy. They will go through that province and they will not be a | :56:32. | :56:36. | |
building standing. And we will sit and watch it on television. The idea | :56:37. | :56:45. | |
of being the opportunity to go back to in many ways repair debt, lots of | :56:46. | :56:52. | |
people died getting out of Syria, and I feel to keep this story alive | :56:53. | :56:55. | |
and keep this News going is very, very important to me. Thank you very | :56:56. | :57:01. | |
much. I want to read out a couple of comments. | :57:02. | :57:05. | |
The UK must allow full resettlement of all Aleppo refugees and full NHS | :57:06. | :57:10. | |
medical treatment. Sydney e-mailed: huge respect for the work being done | :57:11. | :57:13. | |
to help these poor people. Shame the great and good and those with | :57:14. | :57:17. | |
responsibilities are still letting them and their own humanity down. | :57:18. | :57:21. | |
Thank you for joining us. And good luck with the convoy. | :57:22. | :57:25. | |
Coming up: the charity single recorded in the memory of murdered | :57:26. | :57:29. | |
MP Jo Cox is released today. We will speak to two members of the London | :57:30. | :57:33. | |
hospices choir also hoping for the top spot this year, and one of last | :57:34. | :57:41. | |
year's winners from the NHS choir. Just to remind you, this is our last | :57:42. | :57:44. | |
live programme for the Christmas break. We will be back on Tuesday | :57:45. | :57:49. | |
3rd of January. In a moment we will have the news and sport but first | :57:50. | :57:53. | |
let's catch up with the weather with Sarah Keith-Lucas. | :57:54. | :57:57. | |
It has been a gloomy start, we have missed and fog patches around but | :57:58. | :58:04. | |
not everywhere, there was some brightness out there. Here is a | :58:05. | :58:08. | |
scene captured by a weather watcher in North Somerset, so certainly some | :58:09. | :58:11. | |
spells of sunshine but for most of us it is a cloudy picture, that's | :58:12. | :58:15. | |
because the cloud has been working in from the Atlantic, this weather | :58:16. | :58:18. | |
front draped across northern and western parts of the country, clear | :58:19. | :58:21. | |
spells for central and eastern areas but here we have mist and fog around | :58:22. | :58:25. | |
through the morning. As we had through today the weather front will | :58:26. | :58:29. | |
clear away from Northern Ireland, so the rain pushing away towards the | :58:30. | :58:32. | |
east. Much of Scotland will see a pretty damp picture through much of | :58:33. | :58:35. | |
the day. They return to brighter skies when the front clears to the | :58:36. | :58:39. | |
east, across Northern Ireland and the west of Scotland, and improving | :58:40. | :58:43. | |
picture. Central and eastern Scotland, cloudy with outbreaks of | :58:44. | :58:46. | |
rain, nothing particularly heavy but the rain is slow-moving, and a few | :58:47. | :58:50. | |
spots of rain in the north-west of England and north-west Wales. | :58:51. | :58:54. | |
Further south across Wales, Devon, Cornwall, quite a lot of cloud and | :58:55. | :58:58. | |
reasonably mild, 12 degrees or so, but not as mild as recent days. Dry | :58:59. | :59:02. | |
with a little hazy sunshine breaking through across central and eastern | :59:03. | :59:06. | |
parts of England when the fog clears. This evening and overnight | :59:07. | :59:09. | |
the weather front makes its way further south across the country, | :59:10. | :59:12. | |
tending to peter out as it does so, suggest a band of cloud, drizzle and | :59:13. | :59:15. | |
mist and fog in the South once again. By tomorrow morning you have | :59:16. | :59:20. | |
blue colours across Northern Ireland and Scotland, and it will be a | :59:21. | :59:23. | |
frosty morning, something we have not seen for a little while across | :59:24. | :59:26. | |
Northern Ireland and Scotland, also chilly across parts of the North of | :59:27. | :59:29. | |
England. Further south a different feel, still the mild and murky air | :59:30. | :59:35. | |
with quite a lot of cloud, mist and fog. Further north in many parts of | :59:36. | :59:39. | |
the country have a pretty decent looking day, despite temperatures of | :59:40. | :59:42. | |
six or 7 degrees, there will be sunshine to compensate for Stuckless | :59:43. | :59:45. | |
in the way of sunshine further south but temperatures in double figures. | :59:46. | :59:51. | |
The is looking quite, the weather front building from the south | :59:52. | :59:54. | |
keeping weather fronts at bay in the far north, breezy with the odd | :59:55. | :59:57. | |
shower across the far north of Scotland but elsewhere it is a quite | :59:58. | :00:01. | |
picture through the day on Sunday. Again, we could see mist, frost and | :00:02. | :00:04. | |
fog first thing and then variable amounts of cloud. There will be | :00:05. | :00:08. | |
brightness breaking through at times so a usable date if you have plans | :00:09. | :00:12. | |
command temperatures around eight or 9 degrees. It could be mild up | :00:13. | :00:15. | |
towards the north-east of Scotland by the time we get a Sunday. Next | :00:16. | :00:20. | |
week after that fairly quiet spell of whether things will turn much | :00:21. | :00:23. | |
more unsettled into the lead up to Christmas. You can find more detail | :00:24. | :00:27. | |
on the Weather for the Week Ahead by heading to our website. | :00:28. | :00:31. | |
I'm Joanna Gosling, welcome to the programme. | :00:32. | :00:34. | |
An operation to evacuate civilians and rebel fighters from the eastern | :00:35. | :00:38. | |
parts of the Syrian city of Aleppo has been suspended. | :00:39. | :00:43. | |
It's not yet clear what triggered the suspension - one unconfirmed | :00:44. | :00:46. | |
report spoke of blasts being heard in the area where evacuees | :00:47. | :00:55. | |
I spoke to Judy Murray about the incredible | :00:56. | :01:03. | |
We also talked about her hopes for her granddaughter, | :01:04. | :01:07. | |
the weather in Scotland and why she works so tirelessly to get | :01:08. | :01:10. | |
I realise how much harder you have to make things work in women's Bart | :01:11. | :01:15. | |
-- had to work to make things happen in women's sport than men's, and the | :01:16. | :01:18. | |
majority of decision-makers, certainly within tennis, our guys. | :01:19. | :01:24. | |
Strictly reaches its crescendo tomorrow night, we will be joined by | :01:25. | :01:30. | |
one of the professionals and the former contestant infamously shot | :01:31. | :01:33. | |
out of a cannon, Russell Grant, to talk about who they think will win. | :01:34. | :01:35. | |
Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news. | :01:36. | :01:38. | |
The evacuation of civilians and fighters from the Syrian city | :01:39. | :01:43. | |
Reports on Syrian State Television say that rebels opened fire | :01:44. | :01:47. | |
on a convoy at one of the crossing points of the rebel-held enclave. | :01:48. | :01:50. | |
Around 3000 people, including hundreds of children, | :01:51. | :01:52. | |
were transported out of the city yesterday. | :01:53. | :01:56. | |
I World Health Organisation official has told reporters that a planned | :01:57. | :02:02. | |
evacuation of the sick and wounded had been halted on the orders of | :02:03. | :02:03. | |
Russian forces. It's thought there are 50,000 people | :02:04. | :02:05. | |
still waiting to leave. President Barack Obama has said | :02:06. | :02:09. | |
the US will take action against Russia for what he calls | :02:10. | :02:11. | |
interfering in the US election. The White House has said Russian | :02:12. | :02:24. | |
President Vladimir Putin knew about the hacking of Democratic Party | :02:25. | :02:25. | |
e-mail accounts during the campaign. The Kremlin says the | :02:26. | :02:27. | |
claims are nonsense. A Royal Marine found guilty | :02:28. | :02:29. | |
of murdering an injured Afghan fighter is today asking senior | :02:30. | :02:31. | |
judges to grant him bail. Sergeant Alexander Blackman - | :02:32. | :02:33. | |
known as Marine A - was jailed in 2013 and sentenced | :02:34. | :02:35. | |
to life imprisonment He has been granted the right | :02:36. | :02:38. | |
to appeal his conviction. The Gambling Commission has fined | :02:39. | :02:48. | |
the lottery operator Camelot It's after the company | :02:49. | :02:50. | |
paid out prize money to a fraudster, without doing | :02:51. | :02:53. | |
a thorough investigation. Most of the penalty represents | :02:54. | :02:56. | |
the ?2.5 million that would have been given to good causes | :02:57. | :02:58. | |
if the prize had not been paid. Camelot say they won't be appealing | :02:59. | :03:06. | |
the decision. Theresa May has told EU leaders | :03:07. | :03:10. | |
that she wants an early agreement on the status of British people | :03:11. | :03:13. | |
living on the continent, She was talking ahead of the latest | :03:14. | :03:15. | |
Brexit talks in Brussels. The leaders of the other 27 | :03:16. | :03:19. | |
member states agreed that the European Parliament | :03:20. | :03:21. | |
would have a formal role That's a summary of the latest BBC | :03:22. | :03:23. | |
News - more at 10.30am. Thank you very much, any two. -- | :03:24. | :03:32. | |
Anita This is our last programme before | :03:33. | :03:40. | |
we break for Christmas. Do get in touch with us | :03:41. | :03:42. | |
throughout the morning - If you text, you will be charged | :03:43. | :03:46. | |
at the standard network rate. she is still sparkling, lovely! | :03:47. | :03:50. | |
Good morning. They've just come back out after tea | :03:51. | :03:56. | |
in Chennai where England's cricketers are playing for pride | :03:57. | :03:58. | |
in the 5th and final Captain Alastair Cook won | :03:59. | :04:01. | |
the toss and decided to bat. It didn't start well though - | :04:02. | :04:05. | |
They were 21-2, after Cook and his opening partner | :04:06. | :04:08. | |
Keaton Jennings were both dismissed. Joe Root and Moeen Ali took | :04:09. | :04:10. | |
the run tally up to 167, before Root was controversially | :04:11. | :04:15. | |
given out on 88. The Yorkshireman livid to have | :04:16. | :04:19. | |
been judged to have got He kicked the boundary as he left. | :04:20. | :04:30. | |
England have moved on to 241-3 in the final session of the day, Ali is | :04:31. | :04:34. | |
on 87, Jonny Bairstow on 45. Valterri Bottas is in line | :04:35. | :04:35. | |
to become Lewis Hamilton's new Mercedes team mate, | :04:36. | :04:38. | |
to replace retired world The Williams team have said they'd | :04:39. | :04:39. | |
be willing to release Bottas IF they can find a "credible | :04:40. | :04:43. | |
alternative", as they put it, 27-year-old Bottas has been | :04:44. | :04:47. | |
on the podium 9 times in his career, but is | :04:48. | :04:51. | |
yet to win a race. And his best finish in | :04:52. | :04:53. | |
the Drivers Championship is fourth. Mercedes say they won't be making | :04:54. | :04:55. | |
any official announcements about their new driver, | :04:56. | :04:59. | |
until the 3rd of January Ronnie O'Sullivan is through | :05:00. | :05:01. | |
to the quarter-finals He'll now play a very | :05:02. | :05:04. | |
in-form John Higgins, who won two matches yesterday | :05:05. | :05:09. | |
without losing a frame. The five-time world champion | :05:10. | :05:17. | |
O'Sullivan, beat fellow Englishman Mark Allen | :05:18. | :05:18. | |
by four frames to two, O'Sullivan and Higgins last played | :05:19. | :05:20. | |
each other last month in the Champions of Champions final | :05:21. | :05:26. | |
where Higgins won 10-7. That's all the sport now, I will be | :05:27. | :05:40. | |
back with the headlines and my sparkly Christmas jumper at just | :05:41. | :05:43. | |
after half past. Thank you, see you later. We will | :05:44. | :05:48. | |
keep you updated on Aleppo. It has been confirmed that the evacuation | :05:49. | :05:52. | |
operation to get civilians out of eastern Aleppo has been suspended, | :05:53. | :05:58. | |
not entirely clear why. But buses were able to take civilians and | :05:59. | :06:04. | |
children and injured people and also rebels out of eastern Aleppo | :06:05. | :06:07. | |
yesterday on buses, but that operation has been suspended this | :06:08. | :06:12. | |
morning, we will keep you updated on the latest. | :06:13. | :06:15. | |
Now, it has been quite a year for the Murrays. Andy and brother Jamie | :06:16. | :06:20. | |
were both ranked number one, Andy in the men's singles and Jamie in the | :06:21. | :06:23. | |
doubles. Andy became a dad for the first time at Cheney received an | :06:24. | :06:28. | |
OBE. Two Brothers achieving this agenda senior will make for family | :06:29. | :06:33. | |
harmony and no and no fighting this Christmas, according to them. I | :06:34. | :06:37. | |
spoke about their remarkable achievements and why she is | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
desperate for some long-awaited family time, and to find out more | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
about her ongoing campaign to get more young girls into tennis. I | :06:45. | :06:47. | |
asked her why she thinks that girls are reluctant. | :06:48. | :06:57. | |
The programme that I set up is called Miss-Hits, | :06:58. | :06:59. | |
and it's a fun and starter programme for girls aged five to eight. | :07:00. | :07:02. | |
I realised when I was just started doing the Fed Cup captain job, | :07:03. | :07:05. | |
which is basically captaining the women's team, that we have a big | :07:06. | :07:08. | |
problem in getting girls into our sport. | :07:09. | :07:10. | |
There's so many other things now competing for little girls' | :07:11. | :07:12. | |
attention that our sport was, when we did the research, it was, | :07:13. | :07:15. | |
"I don't like tennis because it's too difficult", | :07:16. | :07:17. | |
"I don't like tennis because I get cold", ie it's outside, | :07:18. | :07:20. | |
"I don't like tennis because I don't like being | :07:21. | :07:23. | |
Boys are more noisy and more physical, more | :07:24. | :07:26. | |
So we looked at all the things that were maybe barriers or things that | :07:27. | :07:31. | |
would put girls off, and realised that we have | :07:32. | :07:33. | |
to make our sport more fun, more stimulating, | :07:34. | :07:35. | |
So I set about creating a programme to try and solve that, | :07:36. | :07:40. | |
but the other problem that it will start to solve | :07:41. | :07:43. | |
is it is delivered by female coaches and could also be delivered | :07:44. | :07:46. | |
by non-coaches, it could be delivered by teachers | :07:47. | :07:49. | |
or mums or students, because we significantly have | :07:50. | :07:51. | |
to increase our female coach workforce, in order to retain more | :07:52. | :07:54. | |
Simply because girls are different from boys, | :07:55. | :08:01. | |
and female teachers and coaches understand better how girls tick. | :08:02. | :08:05. | |
Just prior to coming along to meet us you were at | :08:06. | :08:12. | |
the Lawn Tennis Association talking about these sorts of issues. | :08:13. | :08:15. | |
Why do you feel it incumbent on you to be pushing this stuff? | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
Because you spend a huge amount of time doing it, don't you? | :08:20. | :08:22. | |
I think obviously when I was doing the Fed Cup job, I stopped doing | :08:23. | :08:27. | |
that in February this year, but I realised how much harder | :08:28. | :08:30. | |
you have to work to make things happen on the women's side of any | :08:31. | :08:34. | |
sport, compared to the men's, and also very aware that | :08:35. | :08:37. | |
the majority of the decision-makers, certainly within our sport, | :08:38. | :08:40. | |
They don't necessarily realise that dealing with girls and women | :08:41. | :08:48. | |
We tick in completely different ways. | :08:49. | :08:54. | |
So if I can explain that a little bit better... | :08:55. | :08:59. | |
It's like if we don't have women in decision-making positions, | :09:00. | :09:04. | |
then largely everything gets created to suit men and boys, and that | :09:05. | :09:07. | |
I see such a huge opportunity for tennis to grow a lot, | :09:08. | :09:18. | |
because of what's happened with Andy and Jamie's success, | :09:19. | :09:22. | |
with Davis Cup success, and now with Johanna Konta breaking | :09:23. | :09:26. | |
into the top ten there's a buzz about the women's side of the game. | :09:27. | :09:29. | |
I just see it as a big opportunity to grow that side. | :09:30. | :09:32. | |
I'm wondering if there is a part of you that looks back | :09:33. | :09:35. | |
at the girl that used to play tennis professionally? | :09:36. | :09:39. | |
You stopped after school and then went on to university and did | :09:40. | :09:42. | |
something else completely and then got back into tennis. | :09:43. | :09:46. | |
I wonder when you're sort of looking at the young girls | :09:47. | :09:48. | |
now going out there, whether there is an element | :09:49. | :09:51. | |
in you that looks that, perhaps, the fact you could have gone | :09:52. | :09:53. | |
on to have been a successful player, had you had the sort | :09:54. | :09:56. | |
of support you're now talking about giving girls today? | :09:57. | :10:00. | |
I grew up playing tennis in Scotland, where we have terrible | :10:01. | :10:05. | |
weather and we had no indoor courts when I was young, so you played | :10:06. | :10:08. | |
tennis in the summer, and you played badminton | :10:09. | :10:10. | |
I played for Scotland at both of those sports, | :10:11. | :10:13. | |
which is no great shakes because tennis particularly | :10:14. | :10:17. | |
is a minority sport, not many people played it. | :10:18. | :10:20. | |
So I think, for me, when I left school and I wanted | :10:21. | :10:24. | |
to try and play tennis, I had to go out on my own. | :10:25. | :10:27. | |
My dad had his own business, my mum was looking after my two | :10:28. | :10:30. | |
younger brothers, so I had to travel overseas on my own, no coach, | :10:31. | :10:33. | |
This was in the days of no mobile phones, no ATM machines, | :10:34. | :10:39. | |
the coin phone boxes, etc etc, wiring money to the post | :10:40. | :10:43. | |
So we'll never know how good I might have been, | :10:44. | :10:52. | |
but my point really is there were no opportunities, there | :10:53. | :10:54. | |
You just had to go out and find it on your own. | :10:55. | :10:59. | |
Your boys have achieved brilliant things, particularly this year has | :11:00. | :11:02. | |
Andy number one in the men's singles, Jamie number | :11:03. | :11:06. | |
When you look at them and you look at what you've achieved, | :11:07. | :11:11. | |
at what they've achieved, what do you think? | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
You know, it's amazing what they've done, it's amazing they did | :11:15. | :11:18. | |
It's great for family harmony and no fighting at Christmas, | :11:19. | :11:22. | |
I think when I go home and I pass our tennis club in Dunblane, | :11:23. | :11:34. | |
it's four artificial grass courts with some floodlights, it's nearly | :11:35. | :11:36. | |
But against that backdrop of no track record of tennis | :11:37. | :11:41. | |
in our country, minority sport, terrible weather, very limited | :11:42. | :11:45. | |
indoor facilities and just a number of people who were really passionate | :11:46. | :11:49. | |
to try and create opportunities for young players to develop. | :11:50. | :11:57. | |
They've come through that, and they've ended up at the very top | :11:58. | :12:00. | |
It's, it really is remarkable what they've achieved. | :12:01. | :12:07. | |
Pat Rafter is questioning whether Andy can keep his | :12:08. | :12:11. | |
form going next year, and whether Novak Djokovic starts | :12:12. | :12:13. | |
It's one thing getting to the top or near the top, | :12:14. | :12:24. | |
It brings an added pressure, but it's a new situation, | :12:25. | :12:28. | |
it's a new experience and you have to learn to deal with that. | :12:29. | :12:32. | |
The one thing I do know about both of the boys, | :12:33. | :12:35. | |
is that the more they gain the success, the harder they work. | :12:36. | :12:40. | |
They know they have to, to stay up there, but it's | :12:41. | :12:43. | |
almost like it drives them on to want to achieve even more. | :12:44. | :12:46. | |
It would have been easy for both of them at the end of this | :12:47. | :12:50. | |
season to have gone, that's it, we've done it now, | :12:51. | :12:52. | |
It's almost like right, now, what's next? | :12:53. | :12:55. | |
So are you saying potentially even bigger and better and next year? | :12:56. | :13:04. | |
I think it would be hard to be better than this year. | :13:05. | :13:08. | |
I think so many great things happen and this year for them, | :13:09. | :13:11. | |
There's just so many great things that happened. | :13:12. | :13:18. | |
But I know that they'll be as driven, if not more driven, | :13:19. | :13:21. | |
I'm actually just quite happy to, I'd be quite happy to have a bit | :13:22. | :13:29. | |
more time at home with them, a bit more normal family time, | :13:30. | :13:32. | |
because that's the sort of thing that goes out of the window | :13:33. | :13:35. | |
when your kids do a job like this and they're not | :13:36. | :13:38. | |
Where do they get that inner strength, and than that resilience, | :13:39. | :13:42. | |
and that mental strength that, as you say, is as important | :13:43. | :13:44. | |
When you're doing particularly a sport that is a solitary sport, | :13:45. | :13:51. | |
very difficult and demanding being out there on the road. | :13:52. | :13:56. | |
I think both of them have had struggles from time to time | :13:57. | :13:59. | |
at different stages of their career, for completely different reasons. | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
I think the thing about staying at the top of whatever you do, | :14:05. | :14:07. | |
whether it's a sport or a profession or an art, is that you have to be | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
in a really good place mentally, in your life. | :14:13. | :14:17. | |
Their wives are incredibly supportive wives, fantastic wives. | :14:18. | :14:21. | |
They're both so, so lucky in that respect. | :14:22. | :14:23. | |
And family, of course, the people who are around you, | :14:24. | :14:27. | |
you're a product of your environment, so it's | :14:28. | :14:29. | |
very, very important that you have the right | :14:30. | :14:31. | |
I wanted to talk to you about a wider issue in sport right | :14:32. | :14:38. | |
now, the sexual abuse allegations in football. | :14:39. | :14:41. | |
The former tennis player Andrew Castle has said | :14:42. | :14:43. | |
that there may have been the same sort of culture in tennis. | :14:44. | :14:47. | |
I think probably every sport could find you examples of that | :14:48. | :14:55. | |
You know, it's impossible to rule everyone out, but I know that, | :14:56. | :15:04. | |
certainly within tennis in the UK, every coach who goes | :15:05. | :15:07. | |
through a qualification has to be licensed and vetted, | :15:08. | :15:10. | |
I can't remember what it's called now, it used to be called a CRB | :15:11. | :15:17. | |
check, I think it's called a DBS check or something now. | :15:18. | :15:20. | |
But, I mean, there's always going to be rogue people out there, | :15:21. | :15:23. | |
and you have to do whatever you can to eliminate that. | :15:24. | :15:29. | |
But you always hear, you would always hear stories, | :15:30. | :15:32. | |
and I know of some instances where that kind of thing has | :15:33. | :15:35. | |
You know, trying to help the kids to understand that | :15:36. | :15:47. | |
if something isn't right, they must speak up and they must | :15:48. | :15:53. | |
tell people and they mustn't hold it to themselves for years | :15:54. | :15:55. | |
There's been some talk that Andy may get a knighthood. | :15:56. | :16:04. | |
He is also the favourite in BBC's Sports Personality of the Year | :16:05. | :16:07. | |
He's not interested in the fame and fortune - | :16:08. | :16:24. | |
it's always been about working hard and trying to achieve | :16:25. | :16:26. | |
So those are the things that are important to him. | :16:27. | :16:34. | |
He got an OBE the year that he won Wimbledon in 2013. | :16:35. | :16:40. | |
I know he's said he feels he's too young for something | :16:41. | :16:42. | |
like a knighthood, and I certainly don't fancy calling him Sir Andy! | :16:43. | :16:45. | |
What sort of age would you be thinking about putting a tennis | :16:46. | :16:50. | |
racket in a child's nand, in your granddaughter's hand, | :16:51. | :16:52. | |
I'm not sure I would be looking to do that, to be honest! | :16:53. | :16:57. | |
I would much rather teach her to dance. | :16:58. | :16:59. | |
I can't think of anything worse for her. | :17:00. | :17:05. | |
Could you imagine being the child of some well-known tennis player? | :17:06. | :17:08. | |
I mean every other kid in the block is going to want | :17:09. | :17:11. | |
I think it would be ghastly. I hope she does something else. | :17:12. | :17:16. | |
He's great, yeah, he's great, he's very hands-on, very | :17:17. | :17:20. | |
When you did Strictly, do you feel that changed | :17:21. | :17:26. | |
I was a huge Strictly fan, so it wasn't something I ever | :17:27. | :17:33. | |
imagined I would get the chance to do. | :17:34. | :17:36. | |
I really wanted to do it because of loving the show, | :17:37. | :17:39. | |
I couldn't tell you the last time that I had done | :17:40. | :17:51. | |
I think, for me, it did let a lot of people see that I was... | :17:52. | :18:02. | |
I was going to say perfectly normal, but I'm maybe not perfectly, | :18:03. | :18:05. | |
I'd say the vast majority of the public would only see in that | :18:06. | :18:09. | |
incredibly stressful situation, that is the player box at Wimbledon | :18:10. | :18:11. | |
or one of the slams, where the cameras always find you. | :18:12. | :18:14. | |
And it goes without saying you would be so incredibly proud of your boys. | :18:15. | :18:17. | |
I think they were quite funny when I was doing Strictly, | :18:18. | :18:25. | |
because when I said to them, look, I've been asked to do | :18:26. | :18:28. | |
Jamie said, oh mum, you love Strictly, go for it. | :18:29. | :18:35. | |
Andy just went, oh my God, you'll be awful! | :18:36. | :18:37. | |
But I think they were concerned for me, that perhaps it didn't go | :18:38. | :18:41. | |
But as I went on through the competition, they were loving | :18:42. | :18:45. | |
seeing me dressed up, loving the fact that | :18:46. | :18:47. | |
I was enjoying myself, and also that people were saying | :18:48. | :18:50. | |
Because probably for most of their careers people weren't | :18:51. | :18:53. | |
saying particularly nice things about me. | :18:54. | :18:55. | |
Had to put up with a lot of bad media over the years, I think, | :18:56. | :18:58. | |
for being the competitive mum, and in many peoples lives | :18:59. | :19:06. | |
for being the competitive mum, and in many people's eyes | :19:07. | :19:09. | |
But this has all changed now and Strictly probably has | :19:10. | :19:15. | |
a part to do with that, maybe the Fed Cup and maybe the fact | :19:16. | :19:19. | |
just that the boys are successful and that people now realise | :19:20. | :19:21. | |
what I do, in terms of trying to pay back into our own sport. | :19:22. | :19:25. | |
Judy Murray, an amazing woman, very glad to have met her, she is working | :19:26. | :19:32. | |
tirelessly to promote women's tennis. She is also obviously a | :19:33. | :19:36. | |
great mum as well with those incredibly successful boys. | :19:37. | :19:38. | |
Well, you can watch the BBC Sports Personality of the Year | :19:39. | :19:42. | |
awards on BBC One on Sunday at 6.40pm. | :19:43. | :19:44. | |
The full list of nominees are Andy Murray, Nicola Adams, | :19:45. | :19:46. | |
Gareth Bale, Alistair Brownlee, Sophie Christiansen, | :19:47. | :19:48. | |
Kadeena Cox, Mo Farah, Jason Kenny, Laura Kenny, | :19:49. | :19:51. | |
Adam Peaty, Kate Richardson-Walsh, Nick Skelton, Dame Sarah Storey, | :19:52. | :19:54. | |
Jamie Vardy, Max Whitlock, Danny Willett. | :19:55. | :19:56. | |
We will talk more about Strictly later, Judy had her on the starring | :19:57. | :20:10. | |
role on it. We will get into the Strictly groove later as we look | :20:11. | :20:11. | |
forward to the final this weekend. Let's get more on the story | :20:12. | :20:13. | |
that's been developing The operation to evacuate civilians | :20:14. | :20:16. | |
and rebel fighters from the eastern parts of the Syrian city of Aleppo | :20:17. | :20:20. | |
has been suspended. Our correspondent Lina Sinjab | :20:21. | :20:28. | |
is in Beirut for us now, The Syrian government announced that | :20:29. | :20:37. | |
the operation has been suspended. It says it blames the hold on rebel | :20:38. | :20:44. | |
fighters and claiming they have opened fire on the buses of the | :20:45. | :20:52. | |
convoy at the crossing point. The rebel fighters blamed the shooting | :20:53. | :20:56. | |
on the government. There's a pro-government militias are the ones | :20:57. | :21:00. | |
that opened fire on the convoy. All that we know now is that the | :21:01. | :21:02. | |
operation has been suspended for now. It has also been confirmed by | :21:03. | :21:08. | |
the Red Cross that there were some preparations in the morning | :21:09. | :21:12. | |
announced by the Russian Ministry of Defence that the evacuation will | :21:13. | :21:16. | |
resume and more will leave today but that is all on hold at the moment. | :21:17. | :21:20. | |
All that we know is that lots of efforts have been going on behind | :21:21. | :21:24. | |
the scene to resume these operations. Many people, some 50,000 | :21:25. | :21:28. | |
people trapped in East Aleppo, are hoping to leave the east of Aleppo | :21:29. | :21:35. | |
including rebel fighters. But so far little details are available about | :21:36. | :21:42. | |
what has caused this halt and what will happen next. We know that this | :21:43. | :21:45. | |
operation is simultaneously organised with the evacuation of | :21:46. | :21:51. | |
some two villages in Idlib that are besieged by the rebels and there are | :21:52. | :21:55. | |
reports as well that the operation there has also been stopped. We are | :21:56. | :22:00. | |
waiting for more details about that. Lots of efforts going on for this | :22:01. | :22:05. | |
operation to resume and not to stop completely. Lina Sinjab reporting. | :22:06. | :22:27. | |
Elizabeth Hoff, of the World Health Organisation | :22:28. | :22:29. | |
representative in Syria updated the UN news conference | :22:30. | :22:30. | |
Two minutes ago the operation was aborted and the ICSC, Sarc and WHO | :22:31. | :22:35. | |
were informed to leave the area with the ambulances and buses. | :22:36. | :22:38. | |
No reason has been explained for this | :22:39. | :22:39. | |
I would like to inform you that so far 147 patients have | :22:40. | :22:43. | |
The worrying part for us at the moment | :22:44. | :22:48. | |
the besieged enclaves of East Aleppo, the remaining | :22:49. | :23:00. | |
besieged enclave where the evacuation has been going on, | :23:01. | :23:02. | |
there are still high numbers of women and infants, | :23:03. | :23:04. | |
children under five, that need to get out. | :23:05. | :23:08. | |
They have been collecting themselves at | :23:09. | :23:12. | |
the points where the buses and ambulances were waiting for them. | :23:13. | :23:15. | |
But now with the operation aborted they will have to go | :23:16. | :23:18. | |
because we know that they are desperate. | :23:19. | :23:32. | |
Elizabeth Hoff with the latest on the evacuation. How did we get to | :23:33. | :23:41. | |
today's devastating situation in Aleppo? Let's look back at the | :23:42. | :23:43. | |
events of the last few years and hear from those living in the city | :23:44. | :23:45. | |
through this single War. The situation inside | :23:46. | :23:49. | |
Aleppo is doomsday. I might die just now, | :23:50. | :25:41. | |
while speaking to you. The situation now is getting | :25:42. | :25:45. | |
horrifically intensified, No one can imagine what | :25:46. | :25:47. | |
happened inside Aleppo, We hope that, we really hope | :25:48. | :25:57. | |
to have a ceasefire soon, because these people now | :25:58. | :26:02. | |
who are dying here... The situation here is | :26:03. | :26:09. | |
a real catastrophe. It might be one of the worst, | :26:10. | :26:20. | |
you know, humanitarian Zouhir, are you comfortable | :26:21. | :26:23. | |
with continuing to talk to us, I can't move anywhere else, | :26:24. | :26:28. | |
there is nowhere else safe This is a shame on the world, | :26:29. | :26:35. | |
because it is 2016 and people are getting burned to death, | :26:36. | :26:44. | |
suffocated to death I don't believe any more | :26:45. | :26:46. | |
in the United Nations. Don't believe any more | :26:47. | :26:54. | |
in the international community. Don't think that they are not | :26:55. | :27:01. | |
satisfied with what's going on... They are satisfied that | :27:02. | :27:07. | |
we are being killed. That we are facing one | :27:08. | :27:12. | |
of the most difficult, or the most serious, | :27:13. | :27:17. | |
or the most horrible massacre There is an urgent need | :27:18. | :27:24. | |
for humanitarian teams to be deployed and given unfettered access | :27:25. | :28:04. | |
to Aleppo, once government forces We are beginning to learn | :28:05. | :28:07. | |
the price of not intervening. There are other solutions, | :28:08. | :28:16. | |
such as using unmanned drones If we do nothing, if we just stand | :28:17. | :28:21. | |
by and watch, then thousands more people in Syria will die in agony, | :28:22. | :28:25. | |
and millions in Britain will live They would make every effort | :28:26. | :28:29. | |
to shoot down a British plane. The tragedy in Aleppo did not | :28:30. | :28:33. | |
come out of a vacuum, it was created by a vacuum - | :28:34. | :28:44. | |
a vacuum of Western leadership, of American leadership, | :28:45. | :28:48. | |
British leadership. we have an update on the journalist | :28:49. | :31:55. | |
who you saw in that film, he has left Aleppo. He posted this update | :31:56. | :32:00. | |
on social media as he waited early this morning to leave the city. | :32:01. | :32:07. | |
It is nearly 6am now, I am near the office. I am waiting to go now, this | :32:08. | :32:15. | |
is the last message. I am willing to leave now. As you can see from the | :32:16. | :32:20. | |
background, cars are heading towards the area where people are | :32:21. | :32:24. | |
assembling. It is heartbreaking sending the last message for me from | :32:25. | :32:29. | |
the neighbourhood where I used to live and report from and work from. | :32:30. | :32:37. | |
That journalist, prior to leaving eastern Aleppo this morning before | :32:38. | :32:39. | |
the evacuation operation was suspended. We will keep you up to | :32:40. | :32:45. | |
date with what is happening in Aleppo. Also... | :32:46. | :32:47. | |
The National Lottery operator, Camelot has been fined ?3 million | :32:48. | :32:49. | |
by the Gambling Commission for paying out on a fraudulent | :32:50. | :32:52. | |
We'll get the very latest from our correspondent John Moylan. | :32:53. | :32:58. | |
The charity single recorded in memory of the murdered MP | :32:59. | :33:02. | |
We'll be speaking to two members of The London Hospices Choir, | :33:03. | :33:06. | |
who are also hoping for the top spot this year. | :33:07. | :33:14. | |
Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news. | :33:15. | :33:17. | |
The evacuation of civilians and fighters from the Syrian city | :33:18. | :33:21. | |
Reports on Syrian State Television say that rebels opened fire | :33:22. | :33:26. | |
on a convoy at one of the crossing points of the rebel-held enclave. | :33:27. | :33:32. | |
The World Health Organisation official has told reporters that a | :33:33. | :33:34. | |
planned evacuation of the sick and wounded has been halted | :33:35. | :33:37. | |
Around 3000 people, including hundreds of children, | :33:38. | :33:41. | |
were transported out of the city yesterday. | :33:42. | :33:43. | |
It's thought there are 50,000 people still waiting to leave. | :33:44. | :33:48. | |
President Barack Obama has said the US will take action | :33:49. | :33:51. | |
against Russia for what he calls interfering in the US election. | :33:52. | :33:55. | |
The White House has said Russian President Vladimir Putin knew about | :33:56. | :33:58. | |
the hacking of Democratic Party e-mail accounts during the campaign. | :33:59. | :34:02. | |
Russia has been accused of hacking the emails of the Democratic Party | :34:03. | :34:05. | |
The Kremlin says the claims are nonsense. | :34:06. | :34:08. | |
A Royal Marine found guilty of murdering an injured Afghan | :34:09. | :34:10. | |
fighter is today asking senior judges to grant him bail. | :34:11. | :34:13. | |
Sergeant Alexander Blackman - known as Marine A - | :34:14. | :34:15. | |
was jailed in 2013 and sentenced to life imprisonment | :34:16. | :34:17. | |
He has been granted the right to appeal his conviction. | :34:18. | :34:24. | |
Theresa May has told EU leaders that she wants an early agreement | :34:25. | :34:28. | |
EDF Energy plans to cut gas prices from January but will increase | :34:29. | :34:31. | |
It will reduce variable gas prices by 5.2% on 6 January, | :34:32. | :34:35. | |
then will raise electricity bills by 8.4% on 1 March. | :34:36. | :34:40. | |
After both changes, EDF's dual fuel customers will pay 1.2% more a year, | :34:41. | :34:45. | |
taking their energy costs to ?1,082. | :34:46. | :34:53. | |
That's a summary of the latest news, join me for BBC | :34:54. | :34:58. | |
England's cricketers are playing for pride in the fifth | :34:59. | :35:04. | |
Captain Alastair Cook won the toss, opted to bat. They are currently | :35:05. | :35:19. | |
262-4. Johnny Wickett -- Jonny Bairstow was the last wicket to fall | :35:20. | :35:24. | |
for 49, Moeen Ali just got his century. | :35:25. | :35:25. | |
Valtteri Bottas is being lined up to replace retired world champion | :35:26. | :35:28. | |
Williams say they are prepared to release the 27-year-old | :35:29. | :35:31. | |
if an experienced, credible alternative is available. | :35:32. | :35:33. | |
And Ronnie O'Sullivan is through to the quarter-finals | :35:34. | :35:35. | |
of the Scottish Open snooker in Glasgow. | :35:36. | :35:37. | |
He'll now play a very in-form John Higgins who won two matches | :35:38. | :35:41. | |
I'll have more sport on the News Channel throughout the day. | :35:42. | :35:51. | |
That is it for sport on Victoria Derbyshire over 2016. | :35:52. | :35:57. | |
Thank you very much, Jessica. It's the great Christmas | :35:58. | :36:00. | |
chart debate again. Last year it was the Lewisham | :36:01. | :36:02. | |
and Greenwich NHS Choir who dominated the charts | :36:03. | :36:04. | |
with A Bridge Over You after fighting off fierce competition | :36:05. | :36:07. | |
from US popstar Justin Bieber. Five years before that, | :36:08. | :36:09. | |
it was the turn of the Military Wives and Gareth Malone's Wherever | :36:10. | :36:12. | |
You Are, which raised money for the Royal British Legion - | :36:13. | :36:14. | |
selling more than 556,000 copies But battling for the top spot this | :36:15. | :36:18. | |
year are the unlikely rivals MP4 - a band made up of musicians and MPs | :36:19. | :36:25. | |
who have come together to record a Rolling Stones Classic in tribute | :36:26. | :36:28. | |
to the murdered MP Jo Cox - Let's take a look at | :36:29. | :36:33. | |
the other contenders. And those two. | :36:34. | :36:48. | |
# What will they do now? # When Christmas comes around? | :36:49. | :36:55. | |
# We were so in love. The Rec until I missed it up. | :36:56. | :36:58. | |
# You can't always get what you want. | :36:59. | :37:03. | |
# No, you can't always get what you want. | :37:04. | :37:08. | |
# You can't always get what you want. | :37:09. | :37:17. | |
# If every day was Christmas, and there was no all year. | :37:18. | :37:23. | |
# Fires started blazing by. # I'd be with my girl tonight. | :37:24. | :37:37. | |
# Say it loud, say it's clear. # Don't delay. Some pretty good | :37:38. | :37:45. | |
offerings! With me now is Lillian John - | :37:46. | :37:46. | |
she's 94 and is a patient at St Joseph's Hospice and a member | :37:47. | :37:50. | |
of the London Hospices Choir. Their music producer and director, | :37:51. | :37:52. | |
James Hawkins is also here. In Westminster is the SNP's | :37:53. | :37:56. | |
Peter Wishart - he's a member of the cross-party parliamentary | :37:57. | :37:58. | |
band MP4 who are behind the tribute And Dr Katie Rogerson - | :37:59. | :38:01. | |
she's a paediatrician at a hospital in London and is one of the 32 | :38:02. | :38:06. | |
members of the The NHS Choir who were last year's | :38:07. | :38:10. | |
christmas number one. Thank you all so much for joining | :38:11. | :38:24. | |
us. Hello, Lillian. You joined this choir in order to make this song, | :38:25. | :38:28. | |
and how much have you enjoy doing it? Oh, and mentally. It's so | :38:29. | :38:33. | |
different from sitting indoors looking at the paint dry, isn't it? | :38:34. | :38:41. | |
-- oh, immensely. Why did you want to do it? Saint Joseph 's, they are | :38:42. | :38:46. | |
so kind to me, I love it there, I owe them a lot. The words got to | :38:47. | :38:54. | |
you? Yes. They are so true. It is The Living Years. Every day of the | :38:55. | :39:00. | |
week you can hear somebody saying, if only I had done something. I am | :39:01. | :39:07. | |
too late now. That is so true. I have heard it, I said it myself. I | :39:08. | :39:12. | |
should have gone to visit people, now it is too later, they are gone. | :39:13. | :39:19. | |
Think on the words, they are very good. | :39:20. | :39:22. | |
They are beautiful words. What has it been like being involved with | :39:23. | :39:29. | |
this for you? An amazing journey. Full of emotions. The song stirs it | :39:30. | :39:34. | |
up, actually hearing the choir, the people that are singing it to you, | :39:35. | :39:38. | |
it is really from the heart. The words really gather their meaning | :39:39. | :39:44. | |
even more from the 300 piece choir. Let's bring in Peter Wishart, one of | :39:45. | :39:48. | |
the MPs in the song that has been put out in memory of Jo Cox. Why has | :39:49. | :39:54. | |
it been important for you to do that? The whole community was | :39:55. | :39:57. | |
traumatised by the tragic death of Jo Cox. We felt we had to do | :39:58. | :40:01. | |
something and we thought what better way to unite people other than | :40:02. | :40:06. | |
through music? We got everybody from all political parties participating, | :40:07. | :40:10. | |
we have had such great support from a range of superb artists like Katie | :40:11. | :40:15. | |
to install, David Gray. We decided just to put it out. I think the | :40:16. | :40:21. | |
music stands up, I am so grateful to everybody who got behind this that | :40:22. | :40:24. | |
supported it. How did you pick this in particular, | :40:25. | :40:30. | |
who decided on the song? It was back in the summer when we decided to try | :40:31. | :40:34. | |
to do this, it has a real communal feel to it. I think it is very much | :40:35. | :40:40. | |
in line with the this is that Jo had, you can't always get what you | :40:41. | :40:44. | |
want, sometimes you get what you need. I think that was the message | :40:45. | :40:49. | |
we wanted to communicate. Katie Rodgerson, you were one of the | :40:50. | :40:54. | |
members of the NHS Choir that took number one last year, beating Justin | :40:55. | :40:58. | |
Bieber. A real example of people power in action when it comes to the | :40:59. | :41:03. | |
Christmas number one. It is a very changed prospect these days? It is. | :41:04. | :41:10. | |
The great British public getting behind it are fantastic, in my | :41:11. | :41:14. | |
opinion, both of these songs are encapsulated that and we will be | :41:15. | :41:18. | |
rooting for all these good causes and we're looking forward to | :41:19. | :41:24. | |
hearing. Whether you get to the number one spot or not, obviously | :41:25. | :41:27. | |
you did, but for the others, they are still raising money for charity? | :41:28. | :41:35. | |
Exactly. (INAUDIBLE) That is exactly what both of these | :41:36. | :41:40. | |
(INAUDIBLE) . It is lovely we're doing such a | :41:41. | :41:48. | |
great tribute to her. And the London Hospices Choir continues a lot of | :41:49. | :41:52. | |
the work and encapsulated by the NHS Choir, it is all great causes and it | :41:53. | :41:56. | |
is a tradition of just thinking about others at Christmas time. | :41:57. | :42:01. | |
We are struggling to hear you a little bit, Katie. | :42:02. | :42:04. | |
Lillian, what is it like being a pop star at the age of 94? Oh! Luckily I | :42:05. | :42:11. | |
have a lot of family and they love the record. A lot of fans, too. Of | :42:12. | :42:19. | |
course! I have enjoyed it. I really have. Come Christmas I suppose they | :42:20. | :42:25. | |
will have forgotten me with all their presents, but, no, it has made | :42:26. | :42:28. | |
a real difference to me. Taken me out of my usual routine of sitting | :42:29. | :42:36. | |
and doing not a lot. I have been enjoying it, every minute. Has it | :42:37. | :42:42. | |
given you a taste for it? I don't know about that! I get tired, | :42:43. | :42:48. | |
remember. But singing? Wendy due last sing before joining this choir? | :42:49. | :42:53. | |
I sometimes home when a tune comes on that I remember. -- I sometimes | :42:54. | :43:02. | |
hum. My songs go back a bit, they all had stories to them, that is why | :43:03. | :43:07. | |
I appreciated this one. They are not all just head-bangers, you know? It | :43:08. | :43:14. | |
enables people to see something different with the song you are | :43:15. | :43:18. | |
putting out, a different side to some MPs, is that important? Yeah. I | :43:19. | :43:24. | |
think it demonstrates the way we can work together and how we respond to | :43:25. | :43:28. | |
events like this. It is all for charity. I have just been listening | :43:29. | :43:31. | |
to all your other interviewees, isn't it wonderful that there are | :43:32. | :43:35. | |
all these great records and people are making a massive effort to try | :43:36. | :43:39. | |
to raise money for a range of charities. If we are beaten by any | :43:40. | :43:48. | |
of these we will be happy, it is one of the of year when people can look | :43:49. | :43:51. | |
at music and see what they can do through music to raise funds for | :43:52. | :43:53. | |
very important charities. Gym, music really brings people | :43:54. | :43:58. | |
together? Are especially at this time of year, choirs build | :43:59. | :44:02. | |
communities. Your message can come across a lot stronger with the | :44:03. | :44:05. | |
strength in numbers and through singing the words. I think that is | :44:06. | :44:12. | |
what we are all achieving. There is something particularly special about | :44:13. | :44:24. | |
acquire cock -- a choir, that is what encapsulates? Through chief | :44:25. | :44:28. | |
executives to clean as it is a real leveller. Good luck to you all, | :44:29. | :44:32. | |
thank you very much. It has been wonderful to meet you, thank you | :44:33. | :44:36. | |
very much. And happy Christmas. Thank you very much. | :44:37. | :44:38. | |
Strictly reaches its crescendo tomorrow evening. | :44:39. | :44:40. | |
We'll be joined by one of the professional dancers, | :44:41. | :44:43. | |
and the former contestant - infamously shot out of a cannon - | :44:44. | :44:45. | |
Russel Grant to see who they think will win. | :44:46. | :44:59. | |
The National Lottery operator, Camelot, who have been running | :45:00. | :45:07. | |
the lottery since 2004, have been fined three million pounds | :45:08. | :45:10. | |
by UK gambling regulator, the Gambling Commission, | :45:11. | :45:12. | |
for paying out an allegedly fraudulent prize claim in 2009. | :45:13. | :45:17. | |
The three million pound penalty includes the two and half million | :45:18. | :45:20. | |
which should have gone to good causes had the multi-million pound | :45:21. | :45:23. | |
The National Lottery operator, Camelot, who have been running | :45:24. | :45:29. | |
Let's find out more about this fine and what it means for Camelot | :45:30. | :45:32. | |
from our business correspondent John Moylan. | :45:33. | :45:38. | |
Details are just emerging, in truth we don't know exactly what happened | :45:39. | :45:43. | |
but it is alleged that happened in 2009 and it would appear to be | :45:44. | :45:46. | |
linked to a fraudulent claim based on a deliberately damaged ticket. | :45:47. | :45:51. | |
Subsequently, millions of pounds have been paid out on the back of | :45:52. | :45:55. | |
that. The incident didn't come to light until last year. There was a | :45:56. | :45:59. | |
full investigation. The police have been involved, obviously. Camelot | :46:00. | :46:04. | |
are today accepting the findings that there were weaknesses in their | :46:05. | :46:08. | |
controls, weaknesses in how this particular issue was dealt with. So | :46:09. | :46:11. | |
they are accepting the findings, they have paid the ?3 million, and | :46:12. | :46:16. | |
they are saying today they believe such an incident couldn't happen | :46:17. | :46:20. | |
again. Has anyone been prosecuted over the fraudulent claim? All we | :46:21. | :46:23. | |
know at this stage is the police looked into it and they have decided | :46:24. | :46:26. | |
that they will not be taking any further action. It may well be that | :46:27. | :46:28. | |
it was just so long ago, or that the paper trail | :46:29. | :46:42. | |
linked to one of this has disappeared in some way. So whoever | :46:43. | :46:45. | |
got the money kept it? We don't know the details. One assumes that that | :46:46. | :46:47. | |
is the situation. It leads to all sorts of questions about how it | :46:48. | :46:49. | |
happened, good other frauds have happened of that nature at the same | :46:50. | :46:52. | |
time when there were weak processes in place and could it happen again? | :46:53. | :46:55. | |
Camelot this morning are saying that it was an alleged fraud linked to a | :46:56. | :46:58. | |
deliberately damaged ticket. They think this is limited to a unique | :46:59. | :47:03. | |
incident. They point out that the police did investigate it | :47:04. | :47:05. | |
thoroughly, they are not going to take it any further. They regret | :47:06. | :47:09. | |
there were weaknesses in their control. There was an independent | :47:10. | :47:12. | |
review of their processes carried out last year which found no | :47:13. | :47:16. | |
evidence of similar circumstances, and they are completely confident, | :47:17. | :47:20. | |
they say, that this would not be possible today. Is that it then? | :47:21. | :47:24. | |
They have had a hefty fine, haven't they? Is that the end of the matter? | :47:25. | :47:29. | |
Is interesting this question of how hefty a fine. We are told that they | :47:30. | :47:34. | |
had this fraud not happened ?2.5 million would have been made | :47:35. | :47:37. | |
available for good causes. The overall penalty here is ?3 million, | :47:38. | :47:41. | |
which in fact means the penalty to Camelot is in the region of | :47:42. | :47:45. | |
?500,000. This is a company that makes ?100 million per year. | :47:46. | :47:50. | |
Jonathan, thank you very much. After 13 weeks of shimmying, | :47:51. | :47:54. | |
twirling, heel leads and reverse turns the Strictly Come Dancing | :47:55. | :47:57. | |
final takes place on Saturday. The three finalists are BBC | :47:58. | :48:02. | |
Sports Presenter Ore Oduba, singer and TV presenter Louise Redknapp | :48:03. | :48:05. | |
and ex-Hollyoaks actor Danny Mac. Strictly fans will be glued | :48:06. | :48:09. | |
to their TV screen as they tune in to find out who will be crowned | :48:10. | :48:14. | |
the winner of this year's dancing extravaganza and take home | :48:15. | :48:18. | |
the coveted glitter ball trophy. Let's get a flavour of the series so | :48:19. | :48:23. | |
far. I have left tests and Claudia over | :48:24. | :48:58. | |
there to talk to Ian Waite, one of the original Strictly come dancing | :48:59. | :49:02. | |
professional dancers and in Berkshire we are joined by the | :49:03. | :49:06. | |
celebrity astrologer Russell Grant, famously a contestant in 2000 | :49:07. | :49:09. | |
elevenths when he was infamously shot out of a cannon on the show. | :49:10. | :49:19. | |
Michelle Harville, founder of the Ed Balls strictly macro Frank Leboeuf | :49:20. | :49:25. | |
and Eleanor Chalkley who runs a dancing podcast. Thank you for | :49:26. | :49:30. | |
joining us. Thank you for joining us. How does this year compared to | :49:31. | :49:36. | |
previous years? It is a bit of a cliche but Strictly seems to get | :49:37. | :49:39. | |
better and better in the way other reality shows don't seem to manage, | :49:40. | :49:43. | |
while others like X factor are going off the boil strictly macro grows | :49:44. | :49:46. | |
and becomes ever more joyous and glorious which is amazing. This year | :49:47. | :49:49. | |
they have some of the best dancers and talent they have ever had. Why | :49:50. | :49:54. | |
do you think it gets ever more glorious and joyous? Sometimes we | :49:55. | :49:58. | |
can live in grim times and strictly macro is an antidote to that, it is | :49:59. | :50:02. | |
so happy and so joyous and the judges and everyone feels like they | :50:03. | :50:06. | |
are part of their lives already. The talent is so great, everything about | :50:07. | :50:11. | |
it, what is not to love? The particularly joyous thing for you | :50:12. | :50:17. | |
has been Ed Balls. Why? It is just because he has been so entertaining. | :50:18. | :50:25. | |
He has shown just great sporting acumen in coming out and doing | :50:26. | :50:31. | |
something that is just completely out of his ballpark. I think he's | :50:32. | :50:35. | |
done amazingly. I know loads of people who have just gone, I'm | :50:36. | :50:41. | |
really enjoying that. Eleanor, you love Doug Marrone the Keep Dancing | :50:42. | :50:45. | |
podcast. What have you loved about the show this year? -- Keep Dancing | :50:46. | :50:55. | |
podcast. Judge Rinder falling in love with dance and the fabulously | :50:56. | :50:59. | |
technical heights that the contest has come to. I have just seen you in | :51:00. | :51:06. | |
your outfit over my shoulder. Thank you, you look fabulous. I was asked | :51:07. | :51:12. | |
to. I cannot see you by the way, so I will just look into the camera. I | :51:13. | :51:17. | |
thought you had been to the supermarket dressed like that. | :51:18. | :51:20. | |
Badger has been done a lot and that is where the word infamous would be | :51:21. | :51:25. | |
right. By the way, although I danced with Joanne Clifton the cha-cha in | :51:26. | :51:33. | |
this when we did Aladdin I never took the Magic carpet as far as | :51:34. | :51:36. | |
Berkshire, I'm in Middlesex this morning. I love a good start so here | :51:37. | :51:41. | |
are some I wanted to let the viewers know about, if you don't know this | :51:42. | :51:47. | |
already. 57 litres of fake tan using every season, 1200 sets of fake | :51:48. | :52:01. | |
eyelashes. I never used the tan, it would have gone up to 100 gallons! I | :52:02. | :52:10. | |
just think that the make-up artists led by Lisa Armstrong, are just | :52:11. | :52:13. | |
incredible. The styling of the hair, everything else is amazing. What | :52:14. | :52:21. | |
made it so wonderful is my background is musical theatre, so to | :52:22. | :52:25. | |
be able to go on to Strictly, at the age of 60, my goodness I wish I had | :52:26. | :52:29. | |
done it at the age of 30, but it was just the most amazing and wonderful | :52:30. | :52:34. | |
experience and one I will remember for ever. Ian, you've been involved | :52:35. | :52:37. | |
in the seven series of the show. What has been your highlight for | :52:38. | :52:43. | |
this one? Well, Ed has been amazing. I think like she said earlier, that | :52:44. | :52:48. | |
we don't expect a politician to be coming out and doing those moves. It | :52:49. | :52:53. | |
just doesn't tally up together, but he was so good. I thought his | :52:54. | :52:56. | |
dancing was a lot better than people gave him credit for. And also, Danny | :52:57. | :53:02. | |
Mac, every week his performances, he came out doing a different style | :53:03. | :53:05. | |
every week and is difficult to do all those different styles and still | :53:06. | :53:10. | |
stay on top. Week after week. He came out the first week and we all | :53:11. | :53:15. | |
thought he is going to go down from this. But every week he came out | :53:16. | :53:20. | |
with a better dance every single week, so it's been amazing to watch. | :53:21. | :53:25. | |
The thing on strictly macro is people on a journey and people were | :53:26. | :53:28. | |
worried that Danny would not have won but he is so good people can | :53:29. | :53:32. | |
forgive him that. Exactly that, when you see somebody who has two left | :53:33. | :53:36. | |
feet at the start getting better and better. What is the element of magic | :53:37. | :53:42. | |
for you, Ian? Well, it is definitely a very family show and it is like a | :53:43. | :53:47. | |
family when you work on it. Even, I'm working on it takes two, it is | :53:48. | :53:55. | |
such a lovely family and it is nice to see the couples coming in. They | :53:56. | :53:59. | |
support each other too. The professionals have a reputation for | :54:00. | :54:02. | |
being competitive, which they are but it produces the best, you see | :54:03. | :54:06. | |
the amazing shows and they are choreographing on a Sunday. There | :54:07. | :54:08. | |
must be tantrums and hissy fits behind-the-scenes. I don't think so | :54:09. | :54:14. | |
so much anymore. They may use to have been. Let's talk about what | :54:15. | :54:17. | |
used to happen. We used to have quite a few divas on the show but | :54:18. | :54:21. | |
they have all gone now. Was Russell one of them? Russell was one of | :54:22. | :54:29. | |
them! No, no! He was one of the best. Everybody gets on so well. For | :54:30. | :54:32. | |
a celebrity going through that experience, they don't spend that | :54:33. | :54:36. | |
much time, even probably with their own partners, as they do with their | :54:37. | :54:40. | |
dance partners. So you do get so involved in it that it's an | :54:41. | :54:46. | |
experience you never forget. They are all working so hard. People | :54:47. | :54:49. | |
still don't really understand the training they put in and the press | :54:50. | :54:52. | |
commitments and all those things going on. It is 8-10 hours a day and | :54:53. | :54:57. | |
the week of the final was the hardest because you do more | :54:58. | :54:59. | |
interviews and more other things other than the practice. So than the | :55:00. | :55:03. | |
actual practice goes out of the window for the week of the final so | :55:04. | :55:07. | |
it's difficult. Was it hard work, Russell? Yes, but it's all about the | :55:08. | :55:12. | |
chemistry with your partner. I was absolutely so lucky to have Claudia. | :55:13. | :55:18. | |
You are working all the time, but it's the joy of discovering new | :55:19. | :55:26. | |
steps and new challenges and just luxuriating in the whole thing. I | :55:27. | :55:30. | |
don't understand if anyone has been a diva in the past because you've | :55:31. | :55:34. | |
got too much time to spend learning things without being a diva. If your | :55:35. | :55:40. | |
nerves are bad, that is for sure, but at the same time it is a | :55:41. | :55:43. | |
wonderful, wonderful time. The best time of my television life. Who will | :55:44. | :55:52. | |
you be rooting for? I danced with Joanne. I want Joanne and Ore to | :55:53. | :56:02. | |
win, he is full of bounce and joy and enthusiasm and happiness. And | :56:03. | :56:08. | |
she is the sweetest, most wonderful person you could hope to meet and | :56:09. | :56:11. | |
they have a winning formula and that is where the chemistry between two | :56:12. | :56:16. | |
people works. Michelle Conn favourite Ed Balls, is out, | :56:17. | :56:19. | |
obviously. Who do you want -- Michelle, your favourite. I'm quite | :56:20. | :56:26. | |
looking forward to seeing Danny Mac raise the Glitterball Trophy. | :56:27. | :56:30. | |
He's done some amazing work and he is mesmerising. Eleanor, who would | :56:31. | :56:38. | |
you like to see women? You could make a case for all three couples | :56:39. | :56:42. | |
winning. You've got Kevin and Louise with their massive fan base, Ore | :56:43. | :56:47. | |
Oduba and Joe who are so charismatic together, but in sheer dance terms I | :56:48. | :56:51. | |
will have to go for Danny and Oti, they are beautiful together. I am | :56:52. | :56:57. | |
team Danny as well however this is Kevin Clifton's fourth final and he | :56:58. | :57:00. | |
is a popular pro and that could swing it. And Ian? You know, they'll | :57:01. | :57:10. | |
have something to give, as you said. But I think I'd like Danny to win. | :57:11. | :57:16. | |
But I think Louise will win. I've done a little tally, the hot | :57:17. | :57:22. | |
favourite among you is Danny. Next year, you said, it gets bigger and | :57:23. | :57:25. | |
better every year. What could take it to the next level? A lot of | :57:26. | :57:30. | |
politicians will be thinking, can I do and Ed Balls and turn my | :57:31. | :57:33. | |
popularity around? We could have some interesting contestants. It | :57:34. | :57:36. | |
just needs to keep going the way it is going, keep having inspiring | :57:37. | :57:40. | |
choreography, we will have a new judge next year because Len Goodman | :57:41. | :57:43. | |
will not be there so that will be interesting to see how it goes down | :57:44. | :57:48. | |
with the public. It is fair to say that everybody who goes on the sort | :57:49. | :57:52. | |
of ends up being well loved by the audience. I can't think of anyone. | :57:53. | :57:58. | |
It is hard to be a popular at the end, it is a good PR exercise. For | :57:59. | :58:03. | |
most celebrities it is difficult because you have to block out three | :58:04. | :58:06. | |
months to do it but it's amazing to do. It's an amazing skill to learn | :58:07. | :58:11. | |
as well. Thank you so much for Sabine joy tomorrow, I trust you | :58:12. | :58:14. | |
will be attending strict Li parties as you watch. Thank you, enjoy. -- | :58:15. | :58:19. | |
strict Li. This is our last programme | :58:20. | :58:21. | |
before Christmas. We will be back on | :58:22. | :58:22. | |
Tuesday 3rd January. Oh, Walt. You got to call me Walt. | :58:23. | :58:26. | |
Mr Disney was my old man. | :58:27. | :58:49. |