04/01/2017 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello it's Wednesday, it's 9:00, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

Muddled thinking. Ill founded arguments. How Britain's outgoing

ambassador to the describes the Brexit strategy and how it will

affect negotiations. This programme has discovered that

some staff at a private ambulance company have had as little

as one hour's training We'll bring you the full exclusive

story after 9.15 this morning and keen to hear your experiences

of private ambulance companies. didn't really tell me what to do. He

just gave me the blue lights and said off you go. That is

astonishing. It is astonishing. Janet Jackson's given

birth to her first baby We'll get advice from other mums

who gave birth at the age of 50. Welcome to the programme,

we're live until 11:00 this morning. As always, we'll bring

you the latest breaking news and developing stories and we're

really keen to hear from you. A little later we'll be hearing how

four days into January some fat cat bosses have already earned more this

year than the average British worker Use the hashtag Victoria LIVE

and If you text, you will be charged Britain's outgoing ambassador

to the European Union, criticised the government's

preparations for Brexit. In his resignation letter he said

he didn't know what ministers' negotiating objectives

were and called on his colleagues to challenge

what he called muddled thinking. Our Diplomatic Correspondent,

James Landale, reports. Sir Ivan Rogers has been

Britain's ambassador to the EU for three years,

and his criticisms about the Government's preparations

for Brexit will be hard to ignore. In his resignation e-mail, he says

there is a short supply of... He reveals that even he does not

know what the Government's negotiating objectives

for Brexit will be. But it is Sir Ivan's implicit

and thinly veiled criticism He urges fellow officials never

to be afraid to speak truth to power, and to challenge

what he calls muddled thinking He says they should support each

other in difficult moments when they have to deliver messages

that are disagreeable to those So, Sir Ivan's charge

is a serious one - that the Government isn't ready

for Brexit and it is ignoring Let's cross to Westminster

and to our Political What will be the reaction to this

resignation e-mail? There has been widespread reaction this morning. A

number of fronts, believe campaigners, Iain Duncan Smith is

saying, it wasn't possible for the government to trust Sir Ivan

Rodgers. If you look at the Manor of this letter, he doesn't seem to be

in sync with the government's views on Brexit and perhaps it was better

for him to go. But remain campaigners have been regretting his

departure. They say there has been a lot of experience, Sir Ivan Rodgers

felt he was too close to Brussels. But he knew how Brussels work. We

heard from the former head of the Foreign Office, the former head of

the diplomatic service who said he thinks Sir Ivan Rodgers will be a

great loss just several months before Theresa May is due to press

the button on Article 50, the process of leaving the European

Union. He thinks one of the reasons he left is because his advisor

wasn't being listened to in Downing Street. What comes through in that

note is a certain amount of frustration from Ivan Rogers, on

what he says the negotiating position has been coordinated in

London and the advice from negotiators in Brussels is being

included in that. By the time we trigger Article 50, we need clarity

about the objectives and the purpose of the negotiation. How much of a

problem is this for Theresa May and Downing Street? Having to replace

your senior EU representative at this point is not something that is

desirable. But we will have to get on with it, the Prime Minister will

have to go ahead and there will be a selection process involving the

Foreign Office, the Foreign Secretary, the Cabinet Secretary and

the Prime Minister, to find someone who is qualified and able to take

over from Ivan. That is one of the problems that has been pointed out

to her, the process and the timescale for the replacement. The

clock is ticking and Theresa May has said Article 50 has to be invoked

before the end of March. But from my conversations this morning, there

isn't a clear process in place to find a replacement for Sir Ivan

Rodgers. One of the key jobs he did was meet representatives from all of

the other EU member states every week. So in terms of getting the

intelligence from Brussels, what other countries might be up to, is

vitally important. So far it looks as though it might be a

recommendation from a senior civil servant as to who his successor

should be. But the fact no timescale is in place for his replacements,

suggest it was a surprise to Downing Street that he left at this stage,

even though he was due to stand down before the end of the. That will be

a challenge for Theresa May. But the biggest political challenge will be

to answer the central accusation in his central Brexit resignation

letter, is that the government wouldn't give us a running

commentary on Brexit, or share the negotiating strategy with us, but

they don't know what the objectives are when they go into those crucial

negotiations with the rest of the EU. Thank you very much.

Now, a news summary from the BBC Newsroom.

Former drivers for a private ambulance firm that provides

emergency cover for the NHS, say they were given just an hour's

A company based in Essex called the 'Private Ambulance Service'

is contracted to respond to emergencies during busy times.

The company says the level of training of its staff exceeds

Victoria will have more on this after quarter past.

An Israeli military court has convicted a soldier of manslaughter

for killing a wounded Palestinian who had stabbed another soldier.

Sergeant Elor Azaria, who's now 20, shot Abdul Fatah al-Sharif

while he was apparently incapacitated in the

It happened during a wave of Palestinian knife attacks.

Sharif and another Palestinian had stabbed and wounded an Israeli

soldier in Hebron before troops opened fire, wounding Sharif

Footage shows Sharif was then shot dead from a few metres away.

The BBC's Yolande Knell is in Tel Aviv.

Can you tell us a bit more about the sensitivities around this and the

reaction? The panel of three judges are still handing down their verdict

in this case. What they have said is they don't buy the defence claimed

by the soldier that he believed that Abdul Fatah al-Sharif continued to

pose a threat, because he saw him moving. He told the court he thought

perhaps he had a suicide belt underneath his jacket. But the

prosecution claimed this was an act of revenge after the earlier

stabbing attack on soldiers. Elor Azaria had been a medic and treated

one who was wounded. Sentencing in this case will take place at a later

date. There was a small crowd of people supporting Elor Azaria

outside the court with signs saying, the nation is behind you. There have

previously been rallies in his support here in Tel Aviv, with

thousands of people turning out. Some top Israeli officials have

spoken also backing him, but the IDF has been clear, this is a breach of

its moral values and military regulations and Palestinians and

Israeli human rights groups who distributed the video that was shot

in Hebron on the day, very disturbing footage, they have said

this case is evidence that excessive force was being used in some cases

during the wave of Palestinian attacks, which were mostly

stabbings, but in some cases car ramming and shootings, over the past

year. Thank you. Military and security experts

in the UK are urging people to learn lifesaving skills in case they're

caught up in a terror attack. They've launched an app called

CitizenAid, which offers people a step-by-step guide to saving lives

in the event of such an attack. They say people need to know how

to give vital first aid, such as stopping severe bleeding,

before paramedics arrive. The retailer Next says

it is bracing for "tougher times" in 2017 as it reported

a worse-than-expected The company said full-price sales

fell by 0.4% in the 54 days to Christmas Eve compared

with the previous year. It also said its profits

for the year as a whole would be A think tank on high pay says top

bosses will have earned more by lunchtime today than

typical workers take The High Pay Centre says that

midday, on what it calls "Fat Cat Wednesday"

is the time some executives will pass the average

UK salary of ?28,200. The government is considering plans

to make firms reveal the pay gap between chief executives

and average workers. Janet Jackson has given birth

to her first child at the age of 50. A statement said the musician

and her Qatari businessman husband Wissam Al Mana were "thrilled"

to welcome their son. The singer stopped a world tour last

April, telling her fans she was planning a family

with her husband. That's a summary of

the latest BBC News. We will be talking about private

ambulance companies. Quite a few of you getting in touch. This e-mail

from somebody who wishes to remain anonymous. I have worked as an NHS

paramedic for an early 20 years and private Ambulance Service crews lack

of training, other worrying, would be the least of my concerns. I am

often embarrassed by the stuff that back me up and I readily find myself

making excuses for them to patients and explained they are private

ambulance personnel and not NHS. I would like to remain anonymous

because of the fear of repercussions of voicing my concerns. Get in touch

with us. Use the hash tag Victoria live on Twitter. A private Ambulance

Service say they don't accept the nature of the allegations have been

made. You can e-mail as well. And the Premier League

leaders Chelsea are looking for a record-breaking

night against Tottenham. They're looking for an historic 14th

straight win in the English top And I'm sure they wouldn't

mind setting that record against their arch enemies

Tottenham. What's more, a win would extend

their lead at the top So, a big night for Chelsea,

a big night for the fans. If they do win, this is something

that hasn't happened since top-flight football was first

played in 1888. Formidable as Chelsea

are at the moment, though, Spurs are enjoying a good run

of form themselves. They've won their last four league

games on the bounce, At one their revenge against Chelsea

who had a hand in them not winning the league last season. Bournemouth

will be kicking themselves? Arsenal's title ambitions

were dented last night, but Bournemouth will still be

kicking themselves, won't they? Arsenal fans have had quite a bit

to celebrate in recent days, after Olivier Giroud's

remarkable scorpion-kick goal. And although they didn't beat

Bournemouth last night, this may The Gunners were 2-0 down

at half-time, before Bournemouth So, Arsenal 3-0 down

with half an hour to play, and would you believe it,

they pulled it back. Who else but that man Giroud

with the equalising goal. Mike Phelan, wasn't that long he was

winning manager of the month? It was only in August, it shows how brutal

football management can be. This is the third sacking of a Premier

League boss in as many weeks. Phelan was manager of the month

in August, before getting the role But Hull City are bottom

of the league, and have been in the relegation

zone since mid-October. It's indicative of the difficult

season they're having At the start of the campaign

the club had just 13 fit senior Also, the owners are trying to sell

the club, which contributed to a breakdown in the relationship

with the previous Understandable, then,

that with all that happening in the background this season,

Hull City have struggled Just one win in their last 18

leagues games, and they're The club say they will announce

a replacement in due course. One name being mentioned is former

Birmingham City boss Gary Rowett. This programme has discovered that

some staff at a private ambulance company have had as little as one

hour's training to drive NHS trusts are increasingly

using companies and charities to respond to emergency calls

when they don't have The Private Ambulance Company,

based in Basildon in Essex, has a contract to respond to 999

calls for the NHS ambulance trust in the East of England,

as well as emergency transport Whistle blowers have told this

programme about a lack of training, dirty conditions in the vehicles

and inappropriate equipment. The company denies the allegations,

and says all its staff have Our reporter James Melley

has been investigating. One hour's training on blue

lights, that was it. It was quite clear that

I was working with people that weren't trained,

weren't competent in the job. And now I've got to find a way

of living without him. When we dial 999 for an emergency,

most people expect NHS ambulances and their highly-trained crews

to respond, but increasingly, as NHS trusts struggle to meet demand,

private companies are stepping One of these companies

is the Private Ambulance Service, which is based in Basildon,

in Essex. It carries out work like taking

patients to hospital appointments, transferring sick people

between hospitals, and it also provides cover for 999 calls

for the East of England NHS But whistle-blowers have told us

staff aren't properly trained, and the equipment they use is not

up to scratch. Now, a woman is taking legal action

against an ambulance The Private Ambulance Service

was in the news last year, after the Essex coroner criticised

it over the death of One of the company's crews

responded to a call saying And he said, "I think

it's my heart." She put the stethoscope

on his chest and said, They ran tests and said Mr Page had

got indigestion or had a hurt muscle He later died, having

suffered a heart attack. And I've got to find a way

of living without him. Mrs Page's solicitor Stefanie Prior

is seeking compensation for her. What has the impact

been on Kim Page? I don't think any words can describe

how Kim feels on a daily basis. Preparing for Christmas

was very hard for her. She also had a family

wedding in America. I actually spoke to her

when she was in America, the night before the wedding,

and she was really in a bit of difficulty with the whole process

of attending the wedding with Gary's What have you found out

about the way the Private Well, I've been contacted

by various individuals who were former employees

of the Private Ambulance Service who were worried about

the safety of patients. One particular former

employee had reported them to Care Quality Commission twice,

to no avail. We've spoken to several people

that work or have worked "Paul" would only speak to us

if we disguised his identity. He worked for PAS as a medic,

but lost his job last year. What was it like when you

started working there? Surprising, I never had any

induction or training. Pretty much just sent

out, and that was it. So you had no induction,

no training? It was quite clear that

I was working with people that, not through their own fault,

that weren't trained. They weren't competent in the job,

and they certainly weren't confident In particular, on the ambulance

side, coming across what we call running calls, so you come

across a patient, quite a few staff Didn't know how to take simple

things like blood sugars, ECGs, didn't know how to do

manual blood pressures. Is there an example where that

happened that particularly We drove out of a hospital one day

doing PTS, or patient transport service work,

and there was a lady collapsed The colleague I was with at the time

didn't have a clue what to do. As I say, she didn't know how

to take a blood sugar, how to read ECGs, how to even

do an ECG. I ended up treating the patient,

by which time other crews coming out of the hospital ended

up assisting us. When it's putting patients at risk,

it's putting lives at risk, it's delaying what could be

time-critical first We started to hear more disturbing

stories about a lack of basic training for staff

at the Private Ambulance Service. Dan Duke worked at the company

in patient transport until 2013, The job could require him to drive

under blue lights when taking an emergency patient

between different hospitals. What training were you actually

given, in order to drive One hour's training

on blue lights, that's it. All I'd done was got in the vehicle,

got everything ready, started to drive out,

put the blue lights on and then it was, "Just drive,"

all the way down the A127, By that time it was about 4:00,

so there was quite a bit of traffic, so it was having to go

through the traffic Then all the way along the seafront,

and then back along the seafront up towards Leigh-On-Sea,

back on the A127 and into Basildon Trading Estate,

where they were based at. He told me once, "There's

a sharp corner coming up, when you come off the end

of the seafront and go round, there's a sharp turn,"

and he told me, "Don't forget about that turn," but I

already know it's there. But that's the only thing

he really said to me He didn't really tell me what to do

or anything like that. He just gave me everything, said,

"Put the blue lights on, Dan says he now works for another

ambulance company, where he receives The Private Ambulance Service says

that staff are fully qualified, In law, emergency-service staff can

break certain rules of the road So, what is an acceptable level of

training to drive under blue lights? The East Midlands NHS

Ambulance Service let me watch it train its staff

on its four-week course. Just change that siren

again to the phaser, They've stopped, they've

seen you, that's good. Left-hand indicator,

left hand mirror as we come out. Nice and slow, in case we come

across one of these. What kind of dangers do ambulance

drivers have to be aware of when they're driving

under blue lights? If you imagine everything that's

on the road or by the side of the road is a potential hazard,

it's a potential hazard to us, so some of the particular ones

would be, as you'd expect, We've got an exemption under law

to treat a red traffic light So we can proceed at a slow walking

pace through those traffic lights, with maximum observation all around,

to make sure it's safe Of course, the other traffic that's

crossing us has the green light, so they have got priority,

and we can only proceed In your opinion, would it be

possible to train somebody to drive under blue lights with an hour,

a day of training? The fact that our whole

course is four weeks long, and the first two weeks

are the foundation, if you like, to actually move on to doing blue

light training and then that We just couldn't, as

an Ambulance Service Trust, sanction anything really

like that, no. During our investigation,

we were contacted on social media by several existing members of staff

at the Private Ambulance Service. So, I can see a bug there

on the floor of some description. That could be a used

sheet on the stretcher. So what's happened here is they've

come into work and they've found And there's another picture

of some form of insect. I mean, the patient that's got

to ride in that ambulance has the right for that ambulance to be

clean and in a condition that is Patient Transport Services move some

very ill and vulnerable people. So anything in there that could be

a source of infection could get into somebody's system

and could harm them. So, I can see what looks

like a two-person carry chair, and by the looks of it,

the foot strap is broken. I guess the issue with things

like foot straps is it's not like moving parcels

or pieces of equipment. When you move people,

they're unpredictable. I think certainly there

is a difficulty with the staff trying to perform things like manual

handling and lifting If you drop someone's parcel,

it doesn't matter, but if you drop someone's mother or their grandma,

that's something that you can't take back,

so the equipment needs to be safe. It's an absolute duty

on the employer to make sure the equipment they provide

is in safe working order. The Care Quality Commission told us

it found poor standards in infection control,

staff not having enough time between shifts,

and poor leadership arrangements during an inspection at the Private

Ambulance Service in August. A follow-up inspection found

things were improving, including better cleaning procedures

and there was an action plan We approached the Private Ambulance

Service for an interview, The NHS East of England

Ambulance Service, which uses the Private Ambulance Service

to provide cover for But the solicitor representing

the widow of Gary Page is worried what might happen if all the lessons

aren't learned from his death. I'm concerned for other patients,

because Gary's situation, it was quite obvious

he was suffering from chest pain, he should have been transported

to hospital, and this is just a simple thing that

shouldn't have happened. There could be other patients

in similar predicaments and the same thing might happen,

or more serious medical conditions which could be left,

which could be devastating If you work for a private

ambulance company or you've experience of them, do get

in touch this morning. Stuart says, I worked there for two

years and I can back up the claims. I had been trained to drive under

blue lights, but when I was assessed at the company, I was more qualified

than the assessor. William says, your claims are quite correct, I had

no driving training and I was expected to blue light immediately.

I voiced my concerns as a retired police traffic officer, and I left

after three years, it was 100% unsafe and the managers do not

listen. Darren says, the blue light training I went through was for 15

days and that was done by qualified instructors. The firm involved in

our report, the Private Ambulance Service, said they do not accept the

nature of the allegations. And if you want to watch that

film again and share it, go to our programme page,

which is bbc.co.uk/victoria. In the next hour we'll be hearing

from a former worker of the Private Ambulance Service

and her claims she felt she was putting lives at risk due

to the working conditions. This news to do with Southern Rail.

A six-day strike by drivers from Monday has been cut to three days.

Good news of sorts. But there is a likelihood of further action. That

is according to Aslef. A six-day strike which was chewed to start on

Monday, and is still due to start on Monday, has been cut to three days,

but Aslef say there is still a likelihood of further action.

In his first British broadcast interview,

we speak to the CIA analyst who questioned Saddam Hussein

At 9:35am, we'll be speaking to Britain's oldest first-time mum.

Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

Britain's outgoing ambassador to the European Union,

Sir Ivan Rogers, has strongly criticised the government's

In his resignation letter, Sir Ivan urged British colleagues

The government said he had stood down so a successor could be

in place before Brexit negotiations started.

Former drivers for a private ambulance firm that provides

emergency cover for the NHS, say they were given just an hour's

A company based in Essex called the 'Private Ambulance Service'

is contracted to respond to emergencies during busy times.

Whistle-blowers have set the level of some of the equipment in the

ambulances is poor. The company says the level

of training of its staff exceeds An Israeli military court has

convicted a soldier of manslaughter for killing a wounded Palestinian

who had stabbed another soldier. Sergeant Elor Azaria, who's now 20,

shot Abdul Fatah al-Sharif while he was apparently

incapacitated in the It happened during a wave

of Palestinian knife attacks. Sharif and another Palestinian had

stabbed and wounded an Israeli soldier in Hebron before troops

opened fire, wounding Sharif Footage shows Sharif was then shot

dead from a few metres away. The rail union Aslef says

that a planned six-day strike by drivers on Southern

Railway from next Monday has The network has been plagued

by cancellations and delays for months as the two sides wrangle

over pay, jobs and conditions. However Aslef also said this

morning that there's still a likelihood

of further action. Military and security experts

in the UK are urging people to learn lifesaving skills in case they're

caught up in a terror attack. They've launched an app called

CitizenAid, which offers people a step-by-step guide to saving lives

in the event of such an attack. They say people need to know how

to give vital first aid, such as stopping severe bleeding,

before paramedics arrive. A think tank on high pay says top

bosses will have earned more by lunchtime today than

typical workers take The High Pay Centre says that

midday, on what it calls "Fat Cat Wednesday"

is the time some executives will pass the average

UK salary of ?28,200. The government is considering plans

to make firms reveal the pay gap between chief executives

and average workers. Janet Jackson has given birth

to her first child at the age of 50. A statement said the musician

and her Qatari businessman husband Wissam Al Mana were "thrilled"

to welcome their son. The singer stopped a world tour last

April, telling her fans she was planning a family

with her husband. Congratulations to Janet Jackson and

family. Did you give birth at 50? If so, get in touch.

You know that feeling in January - never quite sure what year it is -

well it happens to the best of us - including the Vice President

34 senators elected the beginning that term January the 3rd 2007. 17.

2017. 2017. Do you solemnly swear

that you will support and defend the Constitution

of the United States against all Chelsea are chasing an historic 14th

straight win in the English top flight in one season when they

travel to to Tottenham tonight. A win for the Blues would extend

their lead at the top of the Premier League

to eight points. Arsenal came back from 3-0 down

to draw 3-3 with at Bournemouth. Olivier Giroud scored

the equaliser in the 92nd minute, and keeps Arsenal fourth

in the table. Mike Phelan, wasn't that long

he was winning manager of the month? And there's lots of British tennis

action this morning. Naomi Broady here has been knocked

out of the Auckland Classic, the Hopman Cup team lost in Perth

to France, but more positively Kyle Edmund

is through to the quarter final The brother of a private

detective found murdered 30 years ago has written

to the Prime Minister Theresa May, asking her not to drop plans

to investigate the relationship but first here's his

brother's story. It's one of the biggest unsolved

murders in British history. Daniel Morgan was a private

detective working in London. 30 years ago, in 1987,

he was found dead in a pub car park in Sydenham,

in south-east London. He'd been struck three times

with an axe in the back of the head. His Rolex had been stolen,

there was ?1,000, though, Southern Investigations,

the company Daniel Morgan set up with his business partner

Jonathan Rees, was thought to be working with the police and News

of the World journalists. It's thought that Mr Morgan

was ready to expose Despite five police investigations,

no-one has been successfully The family wanted an

independent inquiry. They fear a corrupt police

officer may be connected As Home Secretary, Theresa May

was the only minister in 25 years In 2013 she set up an expert panel,

investigating the role of corrupt police, and their relationships

with journalists and But Daniel's brother,

Alastair Morgan, says its work has been delayed due to what he called

a "lack of full The Metropolitan Police said this

was an exceptionally complex process, and they were working

closely with the panel. Daniel Morgan's brother

Alistair, who is here, believes police corruption prevented

Scotland Yard from ever He is calling on Theresa May not

to drop so-called Leveson 2 Alongside Alastair Morgan

is Professor Tim Luckhurst, who's Professor of Journalism

at the University of Kent who doesn't believe there's any

need for a Leveson 2. The government is weighing this up,

why do you think the government should go ahead? We have this

enquiry looking into my brother's murder. When I accepted this

proposal from the Home Secretary that this should be looked into in

this way, I had, in the back of my mind, the firm idea that Leveson two

was going to take place. And because a panel does not have statutory

powers, it cannot subpoena witnesses, it cannot order them to

give evidence or disclose papers or anything like that. I thought that

if there were areas the panel could not deal with because they did not

have the powers, then Leveson two would be available afterwards after

a kind of backstop, if you like. Is that, bearing in mind, the cost of a

potential Leveson two, running into the millions, is that the right way

forward to try to find out what happened to your brother? Well, as I

said it is a backstop. If the panel cannot get answers to seven very

important questions, then this would be a means of doing that. I also

think that Leveson two, the issue of journalists and the police has not

been dealt with fully by leather someone. I know from my brother's

case, there are areas that need to be looked into. Professor Lott

cursed, it would be worth reminding our audience what Leveson two is

meant to be? It is about regulation of the British press, it is a

successor to Leveson one. Looking into relationships in the past

between British journalist and the police. It is an aspect some people

think it is worth pursuing. These relationships were very long time

ago, there have been many enquiries into the conduct of the police since

1987. The police have reformed their actions, journalists have reformed

also and there is no need for Leveson two on that basis. More

importantly, Leveson one is a spectacular failure and there is no

need for Leveson two on that basis. More importantly, Leveson one is a

spectacular failure and the Isner public demand for there is nothing

more to explain between the relationship between journalists and

the police? It may in the past, on occasion have thrown up allegations

of corruption, the proper way to investigate those is to criminal

prosecutions and through the courts. Which has happened? Most of those

cases has turned out not to convict jealous, although in some cases they

have convicted police officers. That is the right way to do it. Let's

remember the fundamental point. Journalists exist to find out things

which powerful people don't want the public to know. That means

journalists often do need to have police sources, the work with police

sources often reveals information that is dramatically in the public

interest. That is what the attempt to prosecute journalists discovered.

Your worry is that Leveson two could potentially bring in further

regulation of the press and you think it could be a bad thing? I

have been a critic of this process from the beginning. It has failed to

win their support of any substantial British newspaper. It is not

surprising it failed to gain the support of any substantial British

newspaper, is it? It was the Guardian that broke the bone hacking

story. The Godding campaign year after year to bring back an enquiry.

Also it is refusing to abide by the conclusions. Nobody from the left of

the Guardian, right through to the Daily Mail on the right believes the

proposals Lord Le the Sun put forward are worth accepting. But

tells us something very interesting. You think it could lead to more...

It is out of date and it is the problem on how the Internet treat

the news. Do you think that as a result of the criminal prosecutions

of various public officials, members of the police service and

journalists, that actually the media and the police have made significant

changes to the way they operate? I don't really know about that, but

what I am sure of, is that they haven't really got to the bottom of

this. Leveson one didn't get to the bottom of the relationship between

the press and the police, I am quite sure of that. Do you think Leveson

two would? I think the police have been seriously compromised at a high

level why their interaction with journalists in the past. This has

not been examined properly. We will find out what Theresa May is going

to do in the next few weeks. Thank you both very much.

The Metropolitan Police told us it was working closely

with the Home Office and Daniel Morgan Independent Panel

on what is an exceptionally complex process.

It added that the panel have had access to over one million

We've been told to run and escape from a terrorist attack.

Now experts want us to learn basic first aid and help the injured.

We will talk more about that later. Janet Jackson has given birth to her

first child at the age of 50. # Let's work together to improve our

way of life will stop. # You've got one life to live, whose

right, who's wrong? # That's the Way love goes.

# Oh, baby. # Any time your world is crazy.

# All you have to do is call me. # Come back to me...

# Come back to me. # Lord knows, that I have tried.

In April last year, she announced her pregnancy. My husband and I, my

husband and I are planning a family so I am going to have to delay the

tour. Please try and understand it is important I do this now. I have

di Resta, Doctor's orders. But I have not forgotten about you. I will

continue the tour as soon as I possibly can.

Her birth is reported to have been "stress free" and "healthy" -

You had your daughter at 51, tell us about the reaction from people when

you had a baby at nearly 51. It was universally thrilled for me. Nobody

raised their eyebrows and said, how old will you be on the school run? I

did not notice any negative reaction until I wrote about it in the

Guardian. Then there were lots of very miserable people who expressed

themselves rather horribly. In the comments section. Give us a flavour,

without giving them too much publicity. There was some miserable

20-something who probably never did anything other than have children,

who said, this is distorting, revolting, etc. But for years on, I

have forgotten all of them. It is the most wonderful thing, the most

magical thing I have ever done. Slightly grumpy for your rod running

around behind me, she says she does not want to be on television, so we

may have to coax her out, so you can meet Sadie. I don't blame her, to be

honest. Tell us how you managed to become pregnant. Thanks to miracles

of IVF. Did you have a number of attempts before a successful

pregnancy? Yes, Sadie was the last roll of the dice. I honestly had

rolled out -- ruled out the enterprise as a financial scam.

There were two macro financial -- frozen embryos at their clinic in

Barcelona, and they had extended the deadline by three months. They

allowed me to go up to the age of 51, and I had just passed 51, so I

did not know what got me to book that last flight to Barcelona, but I

am glad that I did. We can speak to Sue Tollefsen

who became Britain's oldest first-time mum when she gave birth

to her only child I am sorry, it is Sarah. You gave

birth at the age of 50. How are you? Quite a lot of people would expect

it to be more tiring to be a mother for the first time at 50, is that

true or not? I don't find that it is true. I try to stay fit and active.

It depends a lot on your attitude. If you think you can do it, you can.

Tell us about your circumstances leading to your pregnancy. I spent

many years trying to get pregnant, almost six. I met my husband later

on in life. In the end, I did it in Spain with a donor egg, but we had

many attempts, there were many failed attempts. Describe your joy

when finally there is a successful pregnancy after a number of

attempts. It is indescribable. I will ask you to describe it, I am

sorry! Disbelief, happiness, I was ecstatic. At the same time

cautiously optimistic, because I knew getting pregnant was not the

whole story, I needed to stay pregnant. When Andre was born and

came into the world healthy, I was over the moon. You will not want to

give any advice for Janet Jackson, but I will ask you anyway, what

would you say to somebody giving birth at 50?

Enjoyed it. Follow your own path. Have fun and enjoy every second.

Naomi, can I ask you the same question? You are going to get a lot

of unsolicited advice. Ignore whatever you want to ignore. Trust

your instincts. This is going to be the one thing... Nobody tells a

childless person how much fun it is. It is exhausting, but it is a lot of

fun. I am sure Joe Jackson has the money to pay for a lot of help. The

advice I would give her is to spend as much time as she can with her

son, because it is the most wonderful, interesting thing you

will ever do. What is Sadie bashing in the background? She has turned a

toy on. That is a screen that says, no way am I doing what you want at

this moment! She is very much her own person!

Just before Christmas, we were telling you what was happening

in the besieged Syrian city of Eastern Aleppo on a daily basis -

at the time people were living under daily bomb attacks and waiting

But after the fragile government ceasefire, news

We'll speak to people who've left shortly -

but first here's a reminder of the events in Aleppo.

The situation inside of Aleppo is the doomsday.

Every day dozens of people are dying, that's continuously.

I might die just now, whilst speaking to you.

The situation now is getting horrifically intensified.

No one can imagine what happened inside Aleppo,

We hope to have a ceasefire soon because those people

It's catastrophe, the situation, it's a real catastrophe.

Zouhir, are you comfortable with continuing to talk to us,

I can't move anywhere else, there's nowhere else is safe

This is a shame on the world, because it is 2016 and people

are getting burned to death, and suffocated to death,

Let's talk now to our correspondent Lina Sinjab in Beirut.

We are speaking now to the freelance journalist we spoke to before

Christmas. You got out on the 19th of December, what were the last few

days like? We were evacuated, the last day was

horrible. Even though there was no shelling. People were executed and

were taken as hostages. It was chaos, people were covering in one

area. There was no organisation from the Red Crescent or the Red Cross,

they were struggling to organise the mob. People were waiting to get the

bus. It was quite bad. We were waiting for quite a long time, it

was freezing, and even after we got the bus, hours of waiting, we waited

for another 12 or 13 hours on the buses. There were negotiations with

the Russian and a radiant militias about evacuating the injured people.

They were compromising about us leaving. After struggling for a long

day, we have our life back. You still in touch with people who are

still in eastern Aleppo? If so, what are they saying see you?

Yes, there are people who were brought back to their home. Many of

them were scared to be back in the East, but quite a few of them have

gone onto the street. The regime have raided the houses,

they have taken every piece of furniture, every machine. If it was

the owner himself, they would take him out. They would take everything.

And beating them as well. People were taken and arrested in

the East and West. Until the age of 50, they were

arrested because of their relationship with the opposition,

activists or relatives. It was for the regime forces and

militias to take anyone. Taking them and putting them in jail. It was

chaos. Which thank you for talking to us.

If it is OK, we will come back to you for states. He is now in Idlib,

having been evacuated from Eastern Aleppo just before Christmas. It is

coming up to 10am and we will have the latest news and sport, but

before that we will have the weather with Carol.

It is going to turn colder, widespread frost away from the coast

and the fact it is cold today indicate we have clearer skies and

some sunshine. We also have this weather from moving steadily south

and westwards in the direction of the surplus producing thick cloud

and spots of rain. Cold air is feeding in. It will continue to feed

in behind it. The other thing we have today is strong wind coming

down this North Sea coastline. If you are exposed to that it will feel

cold and it will generate some large waves. Wintry showers getting in

behind Aberdeenshire, Shetland in particular but some rain showers

getting in across parts of Norfolk. For the rest of us, as the weather

front continues to drift towards the south-west, a fair bit of cloud,

patchy rain and maybe drizzle. But even so it will break here and there

are allowing sunny spells. Sunshine across parts of East Anglia along

with the showers and as we had further north across further England

-- northern England. In the far North East we will see the wintry

showers but they will be hit and miss. It will brighten up nicely

across southern parts of Northern Ireland as we go through the day. It

is the same to south Wales, the brightness streaming in across the

North as the weather front continues into part of the Midlands and also

down into the south-west England. Here too, some patchy rain. Under

those clear skies in the evening that bridges will drop rapidly. By

night, there is a lot of blue on the charts. In towns and cities, those

are the times of temperature values. In rural areas, we're looking at

temperatures as low as minus six and possibly minus seven. Widespread

frost away from the coast first thing tomorrow morning. The remnants

of the weather front affecting surplus tingling, temperature and

Northern Ireland. But for the rest of us, a cold day and a crisp and

sunny one. But later on the next set of other fronts waiting will come

in, moving in from the heading steadily down to the south-east.

Ahead of them there will be some frost and more fog around. Here

comes the rain steadily southwards, winds around it and then a return to

brighter conditions, but nonetheless there will still be some showers

around. Starting to turn milder from the North as we go of the day,

unless you are in Norwich, where it will still be chilly. It leads us

into a mild and settled weekend as well.

How Britain's outgoing ambassador to the EU describes

This programme has discovered that some staff at a private ambulance

company have had as little as one hour's training

He didn't tell me what to do or anything like that. He just gave me

everything, said put the blue lights on and off you go, sort of thing.

That is astonishing. It is astonishing. If you work for a

private ambulance company, let us know. And the former CIA man who

came face-to-face with Saddam Hussein after he was captured in

2003. Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom

with the latest BBC News. Britain's outgoing ambassador

to the European Union, Sir Ivan Rogers, has strongly

criticised the government's In his resignation letter,

Sir Ivan urged British colleagues in Brussels to challenge

"muddled thinking and The government said he had stood

down so a successor could be in place before Brexit

negotiations started. This programme has learned that

former drivers for a private ambulance firm that provides

emergency cover for the NHS, say they were given just an hour's

training to drive under blue lights. A company based in Essex called

the 'Private Ambulance Service' is contracted to respond

to emergencies during busy times. Whistleblowers have

also told us that some equipment in the ambulances

is in poor condition. The company says the level

of training of its staff exceeds I never had any induction

overtraining. Just send out. No induction overtraining? No, it was

clear I was working with people, not through their own faults, not

trained, and not confident with dealing with situations. Coming

across what we call running calls, so you come across a patient. Few

staff did know how to respond. The rail union Aslef says

that a planned six-day strike by drivers on Southern

Railway from next Monday has The network has been plagued

by cancellations and delays for months as the two sides wrangle

over pay, jobs and conditions. However Aslef also said this

morning that there's still a likelihood

of further action. An Israeli military court has

convicted a soldier of manslaughter for killing a wounded Palestinian

who had stabbed another soldier. Sergeant Elor Azaria, who's now 20,

shot Abdul Fatah al-Sharif while he was apparently

incapacitated in the It happened during a wave

of Palestinian knife attacks. Sharif and another Palestinian had

stabbed and wounded an Israeli soldier in Hebron before troops

opened fire, wounding Sharif Footage shows Sharif was then shot

dead from a few metres away. That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 10.30. Here is an e-mail from the chairman

of a private ambulance company. He is called Jack. He says, I was

distressed to hear your piece this morning. We are professional

companies, just about all the paramedics and technicians use

bikers are ex-trust employees and in the case of some of our bank

employees, current trust employees. All our staff are properly trained

to a high standard. We have been recognised by all the trusts of

reworked for as a high-quality provider. I would urge you to come

and visit us, meet our people and see for yourselves how the funding

of the trusts directly affects the level of service the trusts are able

to provide and how we support their service and have to respond as a

result. Jeff, thank you very much for the offer. We would like to take

you up on that, so we will get in touch.

Do get in touch with us throughout the morning.

Use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged

Chelsea are looking for an historic 14th straight win in the English

They play arch rivals Tottenham at White Hart Lane tonight.

A win would extend their lead at the top of the table to eight points.

If Chelsea do win, this is something that hasn't happened since top

flight football was first played in 1888.

There have been a few teams who have managed 14 wins on the bounce.

But their run spanned two seasons - 2001-02 and the following year.

50 years before that, Preston North End did

Bristol City did it in the Second Division way back in 1905 -

they only conceded one goal all season.

And the season before, also in the Second Division,

Manchester United put together 14 wins in a row, but remarkably

only finished third, and missed out on promotion.

So can Tottenham stop Chelsea joining them tonight?

I think there is a bit of extra spice on this. What happened at

Stamford Bridge at the end of last season. Chelsea remaining

Tottenham's chances of winning the Premier League. But Chelsea beat

them earlier this season. Tottenham will want to spoil the party. It is

not often a lot of revenge in football because Time moves on in

football and players change but these are the same set of players

and Tottenham will be desperate to stop them getting the record.

There was a remarkable comeback from Arsenal last night,

who scored three goals in the last 20 minutes, to earn a 3-3

Eddie Howe's side were in complete control as they led 3-0, Ryan Fraser

But Arsenal fought back, and a stoppage-time header

from Olivier Giroud completed the turnaround.

Just watch the celebration. He is very nimble on his feet.

Mike Phelan is the latest Premier League manager to be sacked,

with Hull City bottom of the Premier League.

Phelan replaced Steve Bruce on a temporary basis before

the start of the season, and was appointed

Despite winning their opening two league games in August,

And there's lots of British tennis action this morning.

Kyle Edmund is through to the quarterfinal of the Brisbane

International. Naomi Broady here has been knocked

out of the Auckland Classic, the Hopman Cup team lost in Perth

to France, but more positively Kyle Edmund

is through to the quarter final England rugby union head coach

Eddie Jones says Dylan Hartley will captain England

during the Six Nations, Hartley is currently serving

a suspension after being sent off His six week ban will end

before England play Dylan is doing everything he can,

has worked hard and to get into the England side is to be very fit. Not

playing games means he has got to undergo an unbelievably stringent

fitness programme over the next five or six weeks. He is doing that and

putting himself in the best putting it -- position to continue as

captain. That is all the sport. Up until yesterday the UK's

ambassador to the EU was a man But then he resigned,

which was a surprise, not least because the UK

starts its talks for exiting the European Union after Article 50

is triggered, which we know will be And Sir Ivan, an experienced

negotiator, was expected Overnight, an email he wrote

to his staff explaining why he'd stepped down,

referred to "muddled thinking". It also spoke of

"ill-founded arguments". And he urged his staff

to "speak truth to power", which sort of implies

that the advice he'd been giving to Downing Street had

fallen on deaf ears. So what does all this mean

for Brexit negotiations? Let's speak to our guests. Did he

jump, or was he pushed? Having had the chance to read the e-mail you

referred to overnight, a man who has been in this game for a very long

time, understands what will be most useful and helpful for the Prime

Minister as she triggers Article 50 and has a two-year negotiation

process, is to have someone in place for that cycle. He was due to retire

in October, and his number two said she would be leaving the team to

work for the Welsh government. He has seen that looking forward the

best thing Theresa May could have at her disposal for these discussions

is a full team who will be there for the duration. Wasn't he expected to

have is contract extended? I'm not sure that is the right terminology

for the diplomatic service! The view was, he had been in post for a while

and he had planned to have, whether he is retiring going back into the

private sector, I have no idea. But his message is clear he wanted to

see a team in place that would be able to drive forward, a complex and

detailed discussion over the next two. Jenny Chapman, according to

Anne Marie, it was a very sensible decision and he took it in advance

of his retirement so Theresa May could get the full team in place?

That isn't what he said. He made it very clear in his e-mail that he is

deeply troubled by the way the negotiation look as though they may

be carried out. He could not have been more straightforward really.

Quite transparent in his e-mail. Muddled thinking, he thinks the

government doesn't have a plan and now we find the government doesn't

have a plan and it has more or less experienced well-connected person to

help Britain get what needs out of Brexit. It is bad news. The whole

situation is deeply worrying. I disagree with Jenny. The start of

his letter is very clear, the departure of his number two does fit

will having a faulty. He was watching and hoping that when he was

leading discussions with David Cameron in February, to get is a

good deal. I was hopeful that there was a good deal, we wouldn't need to

leave because we would have a new relationship. But failed. What he

highlighted in his letter, Whitehall really hadn't driven forwards. I was

shocked when we got to the other side of Brexit, Whitehall hadn't

prepared for what was a 50-50 chance of out or in, Whitehall assumed the

British people would stay in. That was very muddled thinking in

Whitehall and he has tried and then decided a new team need to take that

on. I was not surprised by those words, but they reflect the

Whitehall view that now needs to change, civil servants need and are

coming together would Theresa May's new departments. Jenny Chapman, do

you think the muddled thinking was referring to civil servants or the

Prime Minister and those around her? You cannot just say Whitehall had to

prepare for the possibility of a vote to leave. The Government should

have required the civil service to do that. There was a long lead-in

into the referendum, it had ample opportunity to do that, and the

Government failed to pre-empt this outcome. It is negligent on the

Government. What we have now is a task that we must undertake

seriously and carefully, and we need our best negotiators to do this.

Everybody who has had anything to do with Simon Rogers, including George

Osborne, has been incredibly, commentary about his skills,

experience and networks. That would have had a huge impact. We have now

lost that, but we need to move forward, and the Government have to

be much better in the way that it approaches Brexit. We should be much

further forward by now, we should have much more clarity. British

people are getting a bit fed up with the lack of information. This is

another case of the Government not dealing with Brexit as well as it

should. This programme has discovered that

some staff at a private ambulance company have had as little as one

hour's training to drive NHS trusts are increasingly

using companies and charities to respond to emergency calls

when they don't have The Private Ambulance Company,

based in Basildon in Essex, has a contract to respond to 999

calls for the NHS Ambulance Trust in the East of England,

as well as emergency transport Whistle blowers have told this

programme about a lack of training, dirty conditions in the vehicles

and inappropriate equipment. The company denies the allegations,

and says all its staff have Here's a short extract

from our reporter James When we dial 999 for an emergency,

most people expect NHS ambulances and their highly-trained crews

to respond, but increasingly, as NHS trusts struggle to meet demand,

private companies are stepping One of these companies

is the Private Ambulance Service, which is based in Basildon,

in Essex. It carries out work like taking

patients to hospital appointments, transferring sick people

between hospitals, and it also provides cover for 999 calls

for the East of England NHS But whistle-blowers have told us

staff aren't properly trained, and the equipment they use is not

up to scratch. We've spoken to several people

that work or have worked "Paul" would only speak to us

if we disguised his identity. He worked for PAS as a medic,

but lost his job last year. What was it like when you

started working there? Surprising, I never had any

induction or training. Pretty much just sent

out and that was it. So you had no induction,

no training? It was quite clear that

I was working with people that, not through their own fault,

that weren't trained. They weren't competent in the job,

and they certainly weren't confident In particular, on the ambulance

side, coming across what we call running calls, so you come

across a patient, quite a few staff Didn't know how to take simple

things like blood sugars, ECGs, didn't know how to do

manual blood pressures. We started to hear more disturbing

stories about a lack of basic training for staff

at the Private Ambulance Service. Dan Duke worked at the company

in patient transport until 2013, The job could require him to drive

under blue lights when taking an emergency patient

between different hospitals. What training were you actually

given in order to drive One hour's training

on blue lights, that's it. So, what is an acceptable level of

training to drive under blue lights? In your opinion, would it be

possible to train somebody to drive under blue lights with an hour,

a day of training? The fact that our whole

course is four weeks long, and the first two weeks

are the foundation, if you like, to actually move on to doing blue

light training and then that We just couldn't, as

an Ambulance Service Trust, sanction anything really

like that, no. We approached the Private Ambulance

Service for an interview. The NHS East of England

Ambulance Service, which uses the Private Ambulance Service

to provide cover for We asked the Private Ambulance

Service to talk to us But in a statement they told us

they do not accept the nature of the allegations that

have been made. And that, "We outsource our

blue-light driver training to an approved training organisation

used by the NHS. We started using our current

provider in January 2016. All staff receive induction training

and full training where necessary." Your experiences of private

ambulances welcome as always. We can speak now to Alan Howson,

executive chairman of the Independent Ambulance Association,

who represents the Also to Will Broughton,

a paramedic and a trustee And Heide Stone, who worked

for the Private Ambulance Service from October 2014 to March 2015

and claims she was What do you think? It is not

acceptable that somebody would only have one hour's training for blue

light work. But at the time that company were doing PTS work, this

was not 999... Patient transport services, it was not 909 support

work. The training is very different. But this was an hour's

training for blue light work. Blue light work, as defined, it was not

that work. He said he was called upon from time to time to deliver

patients from one hospital to another, not emergency, dedicated

patient. Why would you have the blue lights on? You might still have the

blue light on to transfer a patient, it might also be an emergency. And

that clearly is unacceptable. At the time the programme or three weeks in

length, it is now four weeks, and that is a national reference

programme. These people were not getting three weeks. Not by the

sound of it, that is not acceptable, and we are not here to defend that.

What do you think? I very much agree, what has been presented is

totally unacceptable. We would expect anybody driving and billiards

under emergency conditions to have completed the four week nationally

approved programme. Which is what the NHS does. And which this company

in Basildon now do as well, from November 20 16th they brought the

four-week training in. Private companies who are subcontracted

working into a framework set by the Anne Boleyn stressed, and that will

include reference to clinical training and driver training. They

will have to provide records that there staff have been trained and

certificated to those levels. Jeff, can you hear me? Maybe we have lost

him. We will try to get him back in a moment. He is the chairman of a

private ambulance company in the east of England. He wants to defend

the kind of work that these firms do. Many of these firms. Which you

would echo, as boss of the Independent ambulance Association?

One of our members are ventilated and registered with the CQC. -- all

of our members. They can have spot inspections, unannounced visits to

audit activity. In terms of the rules of training, it is vague. The

NHS does four-week training, but it is not compulsory? My understanding

is it is not yet legally required. But it is required by the NHS trusts

that all of their own employees have completed the programme. It is a

broad question, Private and villains firms, are they safe? Yes. --

Private ambulance firms. They are regulated, they held up to the same

criteria, so yes, they are safe. Would you agree? Yes, they are all

registered with the CQC. The paramedics working in the

independent sector are all registered with the council and they

meet their standards of proficiency, any of whom honour those of the

College of paramedics, and meet their requirements as well. The

other claims that we heard from current and former employees were

dirty vehicles and inadequate equipment. I know you will say that

is unacceptable, but it is going on. Dirty vehicles are a fact of life,

whether it is the independent sector or the NHS. If they have a bad

incident and the vehicle needs a complete the clean, it usually is

put to one side whilst 18 will address that, while another vehicle

is prepared. They are given time at the beginning of their shift to

check the vehicle over, to restock, to check the facilities are working.

Being handed, if your vehicle is dirty, you would clean it if there

was no other vehicle available. It is a rare occurrence, and there is a

procedure for reporting it. Let me read messages. This from somebody

who wishes to remain anonymous, I fear reprisals from these people, I

am a former employee of the Private Ambulance Service in Basildon, I was

a team leader and asked to make checks on the vehicles. Most of the

crews worked long hours but still had a duty of care to clean the

vehicles after use. Some were cleaned, some were not. I reported

the crew started not clean but nothing came of it. The company

floated the rules to the highest degree. Agreement that was faulty

still got sent out. Whitman went missing, leaving vehicles without

life-saving it went. Debbie says, I worked for this company and I am

sorry to say I can back up everything. I left you to getting

ill and management would not help with any changes in my hours.

Phillips says, shocked and appalled that these staff are given a one

hour crash course, this surely poses a serious threat to the ordinary

road user, who undergoes a rigorous examination before going behind the

wheel. We have got Jeff back now. He is on the phone. Can you hear us? I

can. You run a private company. What did you make about the claims that

one hour's driver training for driving under the light? It is

unusual. Ours is three weeks. I don't understand how that can be

allowed. The company denied the nature of our allegations. From

November they changed the way they train their drivers, they now get

the four weeks, which is mirrored across the NHS. Tel is about your

company and the service you provide. We provide a debate range of

services, from blue light and... -- bluelight ambulances to patient

transfer services, to a number of trust. What you offer is necessary

because... Explain why. Because the trust do not have enough resources

to cope. There are holes in what they can do, which we can fill. Cost

is strangling the trust. We can put ambulances on the road at between 60

and 70% of their costs, simply because of the massive overhead the

NHS has to carry. The couple more e-mails. Somebody who wishes to

remain anonymous, I have worked in the service for ten years, some

Private services have better standards that the NHS. Robert says,

I work for this company and I have successfully completed a three-week

intensive qualification to drive on bluelight.

If you want to share the film or watch it again, you can go to our

programme page. we speak to the CIA analyst

who questioned Saddam Hussein Saddam Hussein: rude,

arrogant and nasty but he could also The 1960's mass murderer

Charles Manson has been taken to hospital from high-security

prison in California. Britain's outgoing ambassador

to the European Union, Sir Ivan Rogers, has strongly

criticised the government's In his resignation letter,

Sir Ivan urged British colleagues in Brussels to challenge

"muddled thinking and The government said he had stood

down so a successor could be in place before Brexit

negotiations started. Shares in the retailer Next dropped

14% this morning after it reported worse-than-expected sales

over the festive period. The company said full-price sales

fell by 0.4% in the 54 days to Christmas Eve compared

with the previous year. It also said its profits

for the year as a whole would be An Israeli military court has

convicted a soldier of manslaughter for killing a wounded Palestinian

who had stabbed another soldier. Sergeant Elor Azaria, who's now 20,

shot Abdul Fatah al-Sharif while he was apparently

incapacitated in the It happened during a wave

of Palestinian knife attacks. Sharif and another Palestinian had

stabbed and wounded an Israeli soldier in Hebron before troops

opened fire, wounding Sharif Footage shows Sharif was then shot

dead from a few metres away. The rail union Aslef says

that a planned six-day strike by drivers on Southern

Railway from next Monday has The network has been plagued

by cancellations and delays for months as the two sides wrangle

over pay, jobs and conditions. However Aslef also said this

morning that there's still a likelihood

of further action. Janet Jackson has given birth

to her first child at the age of 50. A statement said the musician

and her Qatari businessman husband Wissam Al Mana were "thrilled"

to welcome their son. The singer stopped a world tour last

April, telling her fans she was planning a family

with her husband. That's a summary of the latest

news, join me for BBC I wasn't text thing. I was looking

at Twitter to get some of your comments, which I will read after

the sport. Chelsea are chasing an historic 14th

straight win in the English top-flight in one season,

when they travel A win for the Blues would extend

their lead at the top of the Premier League

to eight points. Arsenal came back from 3-0 down

to draw 3-3 with at Bournemouth. Olivier Giroud scored

the equaliser in the 92nd minute, and keeps Arsenal

fourth in the table. Mike Phelan has been sacked

as manager of Hull City. The club are bottom

of the Premier League, And have won just one league

game in their last 18. And there's lots of British tennis

action this morning. Naomi Broady, here, has been knocked

out of the Auckland Classic. The Hopman Cup team lost

in Perth to France. But more positively, Kyle Edmund

is through to the quarter final That is all the sports an hour, but

there will be more on the BBC News channel throughout the day.

Thank you very much. Rude, arrogant and nasty,

but he could also be charismatic, Those are the words used to describe

the former Iraqi dictator by the man tasked with interrogating him,

days after his capture And today we can talk to John Nixon

in his first British He's the CIA analyst who sat

opposite Saddam Hussein for dozens of hours,

questioning him over the supposed location of weapons

of mass destruction, the very weapons that intelligence

services assured the world Iraq had, and provided the premise for forces

to invade the country. Hello, good morning. People will

remember he was found in that small, underground hole near a farm

building, when did you come face-to-face with him? Just a few

hours when he came out of the hole. He was brought down to the airport

in Baghdad and that is when I first met him. What were your first

impressions? I was kind of stunned. I just never thought that, I never

thought we were going to find him and I never thought we were ever

going to meet. At first he was a little... He was much more in

control of himself than I thought. For a person who had just had his

world tipped upside down. He acted like he came here every Saturday

night and the US military, who were his captors, where his guests and he

was hosting them. In terms of what you needed to get out of him, what

was your aim? Washington had a number of questions that they wanted

answered quite away. I put those to him that first night, but afterwards

we sat down for a more informal debriefing process. The number one

question was, where was the weapons of mass destruction. That is what

Washington wanted to know. After that, it was more of a series of

other questions that we had in terms of links to various groups, what

were his intentions in the war? The insurgency was also another very

important topic and then questions I personally had in terms of having

been an expert on him and tried to get at some of the questions we were

thinking about when we started. When he asked him where the matter

weapons of mass destruction were, what was his reply? He didn't have

any, he didn't have an ongoing weapons programme and he didn't

intend to start one. He is the most secretive and suspicious person I

have ever met. It is hard to believe him because he is so secretive. You

felt like he was holding back on you, even when he was telling the

truth. I was wary of what he was saying. As we began to check out

other things and talk to other members of the nuclear programme,

senior officials in the nuclear programme, we began to find that he

was actually telling the truth. Which is the irony, I suppose. One

of many? Yes, he was his own worst enemy in that regard. How long did

it take you until you are saying to your superiors back in Washington,

he is telling the truth and there are no weapons of mass destruction?

I returned back to Washington in January and the irony is, nobody

really came to talk to me, except a few officials, sort of mid-level

bureaucrats. That is when I said to them, I don't think he has them.

Then I spoke to a few of my colleagues and we sort of huddled

together and came to the conclusion. Some of these colleagues had a lot

more knowledge of the technical aspect of weapons and nuclear

material than I did. We all kind of agree, this was the case. You said

you had some of your own personal questions, having been an expert on

him, give us a flavour of the questions you have the opportunity

to ask him? I was a leadership analyst. One of the things we used

to do was write profiles on people. I asked him a lot of things about

his life and his experiences. It was kind of fascinating to get it from

the horses mouth, if you will. So many things I have read from other

scholars turned out to be false. Even going back to his

characterisation of his stepfather, who, I had always been told,

mercilessly beat him, not treated and this is why he turned out to be

the where he was. I asked him, what was your relationship like? He said,

I loved my stepfather. He was the most wonderful man, he made me what

I am today. If it wasn't for him, I would never have achieved anything.

Did you ever feel sorry for him? Yes, there was a time we were

talking, I don't recall what we were talking about, I remember looking

down at his sandals that he was wearing and thinking, you know, you

have done terrible things and I don't approve of your methods, but

this was not for us to come here and take you out of power. It was for

the Iraqi people to have chosen to do that. If they couldn't do that,

maybe it was meant for you to stay in power. I felt that this was all

wrong. Thank you very much for talking to us. Thank you for your

time this morning. Thank you for having me. John Nixon, talking to us

live from Washington. His book 'Debriefing

the President' is out now. More on the breaking news that a

six-day strike by drivers on Southern rail has been cut to three

days. Richard Wescott is here. Why? Don't get too excited. My suspicion

is they were just announced those days further down the line. As I

understand it, we have spoken to drivers off the record and they are

not getting paid for each strike day. So potentially losing six days

pay in January after Christmas is not a great thing for any union to

do to its members. I am not saying that is the reason, but it could be.

It doesn't mean there is any breakthrough. Informal talks

yesterday, no plans to talk today or in the future. No closer to coming

to a solution. I cannot see this ending any time soon. I suspect this

is just moving three days further down the line. Just remind people

what this dispute is over? It is about the role of guards on trains.

But the problem is, what will happen here will happen on all rail

franchises across the country. It is all about driver only operated

trains, already half of services run that way and they want to bring in

more. The unions see that as a threat to safety and the threat to

their staff as well. This is a line in the sand, because what happens on

Southern could be repeated all over the country. You suspect cutting it

to three days just means they will move three days to a different

month, more strikes potentially after that? Potentially, there is no

rule on how many they can call. As long as they give the statutory

notice, which is seven days, they can keep calling strikes. They had a

vote and got the mandate. This could go on and on, potentially. Thank

you, Richard. The 1960's mass murderer

Charles Manson has been taken to hospital from high-security

prison in California. It's not yet clear

why the 82-year-old - who is serving nine concurrent life

sentences - has been hospitalised. Manson, a cult leader,

sent a group of his indoctrinated followers,

known as the Family, to the home of heavily pregnant

Hollywood actress Sharon Tate She and four others

were stabbed to death. Let's get more insight into the man

and why he's so notorious. Professor Craig Jackson is Head

of Psychology at Birmingham City university and specialises

in mass and serial murders. We don't know the reasons for this

hospitalisation, but he is 82 and has been in jail for a long time.

Let's go back to the 60s and what he did, what he ordered and the

reaction around the world? Charles Manson is famous for being

associated with the Sharon Tate murders. Essentially, he and his

calls, his family were convicted for nine murders in 1969. But the

pathology of Manson goes back much further. He had been in and out of

state and federal prisons throughout his adolescence and early 20s for a

variety of pimping, using guns for violence and robbery. This was a

month up by 32 years of age had spent more than half his life in the

federal prison system. He was a very troubled individual before the

infamous Sharon Tate murders occurred. Tell us more about the

cult and the family? He was a very disordered individual but was able

to be charismatic. He had been on the fringes of the Californian music

scene and was into the free love and drug-taking and dropout society. He

tried to write a few pop songs and befriend musicians and people in the

entertainment industry. Was very frustrated that kind of career never

talk. His attempt to rehabilitate himself from his criminal past. He

was very deluded, was suffering from severe psychoses. His distance from

what we would see as normal life, partially because of his years in

prison, from alcohol and drug abuse. His delusions began to take over his

life and normality began to be very, very small.

He had great believes in the helter-skelter, he seemed to believe

that some kind of apocalyptic race war would be coming. He wanted his

cold to commit a series of crimes that would hopefully in his eyes be

blamed on black people, specially on the growing black power movement,

which would facilitate the race war that he said would be inevitable.

In the event of a terrorist attack in Britain we're told to run

If we can't we should hide and call the emergency services once safe.

But now military and security experts want us

They want us to learn some basic first aid to help anyone injured.

The team have developed an app called Citizenaid,

which is a step-by-step guide to saving lives if the worst case

We will discuss this more and have a live demonstration

of basic first-aid treatment in just a moment.

But first, watch this - it's a dramatisation of a terror

What you will see next is a reconstruction and I should say

some of you might find it upsetting - it lasts around 90 seconds.

It was filmed on a set developed by ex-SAS personnel

Yes, a shooting, there's a gunman in the street.

The app says cap the wound and then put pressure on the wound.

Keep the hand elevated, above the heart.

Let's talk now to Brigadier Tim Hodgetts from the Defence Medical

Services and Andrew Thurgood, a consultant emergency nurse.

They both developed the CitizenAid app and will be demonstrating

some of the potentially life-saving first-aid techniques.

Richard Harding is head of the National Counter

And we can also speak to Paul Dadge, who was on the train behind

the Edgware Road bombing on July 7th.

He helped victim Davinia Turrell, holding a mask over her burned face.

It was one of the most-widely used images of the aftermath

Let's talk about why this app might be useful in a particular scenario.

I cannot imagine getting my phone out in the middle of some kind of

attack and looking on an app. You are right, if you are in the heat of

having to run away and hide and escape, that is not the time to get

it out. We are talking about following the national police

guidance, to run, hide and tell. Once you are in the safe place, you

can then get out the app or the paper version and treat the patient.

What kind of injuries are you giving advice about treating? We identify

for different scenarios, one is an unexploded bomb, and an exploded

bomb, then there is the active shooter and the knife attacker.

There are different wind types that you see with gunshot and blast. But

in terms of treatment it is about stopping the external bleeding. We

know that in terms of avoidable deaths on the battlefield they are

often attributed to external bleeding from limbs. But if we

empower the bystander, the public, if we give them simple skills that

they can apply in the first few minutes, they can save lives. We

have demonstrated this statistically, we have had an

increasing number of unexpected survivors in recent military

campaigns because we have pushed skills and knowledge and simple

equipment for forward. The slightly different thing in the civilian

setting is you might not have equipment. Therefore, it is OK to

improvise. We have within the app the opportunity to use equipment if

you have it, but if you don't, it is still OK to improvise, and we show

how you can pack a wind, press into the wind, elevate the bleeding limb,

and then move on, using everyday clothing or household items. Andrew,

helped him show us what you have and how you might be able to improvise

in a scenario. We have rehearsed this! If you are going to practice a

tourniquet, don't practice on each other. You can make a very simple

limb yourself. Two rolled up magazine is inside a rolled up

towel, shocked and he tries alike. We don't want to produce any harm

when you don't need the tourniquet. You apply a tourniquet to a real

person when they have bleeding that cannot be controlled by any other

means. Nobody will spend time making that. But tell me again. A couple of

magazines inside a towel, shot down a trouser leg. If you practice on

yourself, it hurts. It is a key safety message. This is a leg. With

a wound, we but start packing it with what is available. Use a sock

to start. Packing, you have to fill the wound, you press hard. If it is

a small wound you can press with your fingertips, if it is bigger

with your knuckles or fingertips -- list. That is to stop the blood

flowing. You don't let go. If you can, you also elevate it. If

packing, pressure and elevation is not enough, and you still have

life-threatening reading's bleeding, you move to your improvised

tourniquet. Anti-war demonstrator. You can use a scarf, tie or belt. I

have used a belt myself, a couple of years later he won a gold medal at

the Paralympics, so these things do work. You have just tied a scarf

around the lake. How tight? Not that you will spend much time considering

that! We would use a spoon, I will pop it into the knot, tie it nicely

in place, the knot holds the spoon in place. If there is not a spoon,

scissors, a fork, a screwdriver, any straight device. If you cut in the

basement, there is your nozzle. I am turning the pressure. When the

bleeding stops, I don't need to turn anymore. That is useful. We have a

tie, a belt, all of those other implements, the Sox, what is that?

That is another scarf. If the first tourniquet does not stop the

bleeding, you put a second just above it and do the same. Sometimes,

with a big fight, you need a broader band. One tourniquet might not be

enough. Two side-by-side gives a broader band. You have the

experience as a nurse and from the military. Paul, you have been in the

middle of an attack. How are you? Very well. What do you think of this

idea? It put into an app the common-sense initiative that many

people showed on the 7th of July, not just myself but other members of

the public. People expect people to panic in that situation, that it was

very calm. The ability now to take first aid to another level and have

this information will be good. My view is we will face a terrorist

attack in the UK, it is only a matter of time, so if people can

prepare and look at apps like this, it can only be beneficial. Is

another terrorist attack inevitable? Viewers will be aware that the

national threat level is severe, each means an attack is considered

highly likely. It has been for a couple of years. You will know from

senior colleagues that we have said for some time that it is not a

matter of if, it is a matter of when. We know from our experience

both practically and from research that people who are prepared and

have a plan have better outcomes. Which is why we support the

programme. Can you tell us how many credible terror threats have been

thwarted in the last 12 months? It is on helpful to talk about numbers.

But it is true to say that both the police and the Security intelligence

agencies are working tirelessly to prevent the threat that is presented

to the UK. People will be aware of some of those incidents and arrests

in the public domain, but there are many more which we are working on a

behind-the-scenes which people will be unaware of. To give us a little

insight, you say it is on helpful to talk about numbers, people would be

interested to know how many are being thwarted. Is it on a weekly

basis, a monthly basis? There are a number of investigations ongoing

throughout the country continually. I will not be John on numbers, but

we are continually vigilant and working to protect the citizens of

the UK. The challenge is that at some point something will happen,

and it's about how we make sure that people are prepared and able to

support themselves, but also support ourselves to support communities to

recover and manage those incidents as best as they can. Is the lone

wolf type attack high on a list of your priorities? People will have

seen from recent incidents across the world that there are a number of

attack methodologies. Those involving individuals who are either

tasked or motivated through the Internet and elsewhere are a real

risk for us, because there is not much intelligence background for us

to work on to interdict those attacks. Those are clearly a concern

for us. We pay vigilance to those kinds of risks and threats. In terms

of this app, you can download it. You said there is a paper leaflet as

well. Where do people get it from? You can get the link from our

website. The app is downloadable for free on the standard app stores.

There is a small charge for the paper version.