02/03/2017 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello it's Thursday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling in for Victoria,

Our top story - The public faces an unacceptable risk as police

forces around England and Wales struggle with cutbacks.

The warning comes from the Government's police

One of the problems is a shortfall of detectives -

There just isn't enough hours in a day to do everything. I think

officers are carrying 20 or more crimes. Sometimes there was more

than one victim in an investigation, and more than one suspect.

New figures from housing charity Shelter suggest 8 out of 10 families

in England can't afford new homes being built in their area.

And two women who were sick more than thirty times

a day while pregnant, tell us more why doctors need to

Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

If you're suffering from extreme morning sickness

or you have in the past, then do get in touch -

use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text,

you will be charged at the standard network rate.

Did you consider a termination to stop the sickness? One charity has

told us that women have aborted their baby because the condition got

so bad. Victims are being let down

and suspects left untracked by some police forces in England and Wales

according to a report Her Majesty's Inspectorate

of Constabulary found a third It said a small number were putting

the public at unacceptable risk by rationing services

as they struggle with cutbacks. Here's our Home Affairs

Correspondent, Dominic Casciani. The cornerstone of British policing

- the bobby on the beat. But are these vital community posts

being eroded as forces That's one of the warnings

in a stark report from Her Majesty's After five years of budget cuts,

some forces aren't making the right tough calls over how

to use their resources. It's raised what it

calls a red warning flag Some have been downgrading 999 calls

if they're short on officers. That means they don't have

to respond as quickly. The HMIC also says domestic violence

calls to some forces have been downgraded because of a lack

of specialist officers. Other forces have ignored leads

on organised crime because it Only Durham is delivering

outstanding policing. Neighbourhood policing,

that proactive, preventative presence of police officers

in communities is eroding even further, so that means they're not

stopping crime from happening in the first place and that's

what the public want to see. This isn't in all forces -

many forces still have a really great service in that area -

but some forces are beginning to take officers out

of neighbourhood policing to focus on other areas, and we're saying

absolutely that erosion of neighbourhood policing can't be

allowed to happen. The HMIC says overall most

forces are doing well, but a third may be placing

the public at unacceptable risk Some chief constables believe

the inspectors have got it wrong, but their national council says each

force is facing difficult decisions We will have a special report on why

London has a shortfall of 700 detectives. Right now, the rest of

the news with Rebecca Jones in the newsroom. Nearly two thirds of

England's hospitals have been rated as adequate or needing improvement.

The report, by the Care Quality Commission, also found that four

out of five trusts need to improve patient safety.

But more than 90% were judged to be "good" or "outstanding"

It's the first wide-ranging snapshot of the state

The regulator for the Care Quality Commission spent nearly three years

carrying out inspections following the Mid Staffordshire

This is the first annual report on all of them.

One of the key findings is the wide variation

Across the major hospital trusts in England, 68% have been rated

as inadequate or requiring improvement.

81% of trusts are said to need to improve safety.

But 93% were rated as good or outstanding for the caring

There is variation between trusts, there's variation within trusts,

you can get a very good service within a trust that's struggling

or you can get an individual service that's not doing so well

Praise is given to some trusts which have made significant

improvements, including University Hospitals Bristol.

The first to go from requiring improvement direct to outstanding

I think the findings of the report are very positive for us.

I think in the report it acknowledges a lot of the hard work

that this department does and a very positive culture for providing

The Department of Health said the comprehensive inspections formed

a key part of a plan to make the NHS is the safest and most transparent

The government says it will seek to overturn a demand by the House

of Lords that EU citizens living in the UK should be allowed to stay

Peers defied ministers when they voted by a large margin

to guarantee their rights but the prime minister, Theresa May,

has said that should be negotiated alongside a deal for British

The Bill will return to the Commons later this month.

With us now is our Assistant Political Editor Norman Smith.

What happens next? All eyes move from here to the House

of Commons to see whether MPs have been emboldened by last night's

massive defeat where the government lost by many more votes than anybody

expected to margin of 102, we saw several former Conservative Cabinet

ministers challenging the government. The tone was passionate.

Will MPs now feel emboldened to challenge Theresa May and thwart her

attempts to overturn last night's defeat. I must say, I think that is

unlikely. Talking to some of the potential Tory rebels, they by and

large trust Theresa May on this issue. They accept she wants to

guarantee the rights of EU nationals. They believe she wants to

do this quickly. And they acknowledge there are EU countries

that are reluctant to make an agreement on this before the

negotiations begin. They are willing to give Theresa May time. We have

seen again and again on votes on Brexit in the Commons, the threat on

the Tory revolt never materialises in the way some have suggested. I

suspect despite last night's defeat it probably will be reversed in the

Commons and Theresa May will remain on course to trigger Article 50 by

the end of March. Thanks very much.

Senior opponents of President Trump are calling for his newly appointed

It emerged that Jeff Sessions, had two undisclosed

encounters with the Russian ambassador, during the recent

Mr Sessions oversees the FBI, which is currently investigating

The White House maintains there was no improper contact.

Voting is underway in the Northern Ireland Assembly elections -

The election was triggered after the power-sharing government

Ninety members will be elected - 18 fewer than previously.

Polling closes at ten o'clock tonight.

MPs have called for the government to publish a long-delayed plan

The government promised in its manifesto that it

would restore damaged wildlife habitats - and leave them

in a better state than before - but MPs want to see how they propose

Our environment analyst Roger Harrabin reports:

To the west of Manchester, a landscape devastated by digging

So many wildlife sites degraded in England and the government's

Here is one way how - row on row of tiny sphagnum moss

plants being nurtured in a polytunnel.

Planted out, they are helping to recreate a peat bog that stores

Meadows used to be a common delight, now more than 90% of them are lost.

The government has promised to safeguard them but its nature

People of this country love their natural environment.

Whether it's the green spaces in our cities,

the seaside, the rivers, the forests, and they are,

unfortunately, in decline and we need to see ambitious

Wildlife around the seas should be enhanced by the nature strategy.

MPs have now joined the chorus demanding for it to be published

People seeking compensation over mis-sold payment protection

insurance will have until the end of August 2019 to make a claim.

Banks including Lloyds and RBS, have collectively paid out

more than ?24 billion to customers so far.

The final deadline for claims has been announced by the financial

watchdog, to try and draw a line under one of the banking

The head of the Oscars says the two accountants responsible for muddling

up the main award envelopes at Sunday's ceremony will "never

Brian Cullinan and Martha Ruiz were responsible for

It's been described as the biggest mistake in 89 years

The competition is on to become the UK City of Culture in 2021,

succeeding this year's chosen city of Hull.

Perth, Paisley, Stoke, Sunderland, Coventry and Hereford

had already put themselves up for the accolade when they declared

Five more are now added, including the smallest city

The winner will be named in December.

The BBC News Channel has won the Royal Television Society TV

Journalism Award for News Channel of the Year.

The jury recognised the News Channel for its coverage of stories

including the EU Referendum, Donald Trump's election,

the Nice terror attack, Jo Cox's murder and the inquests

They say that elephants never forget - but it seems

A new study of African elephants in the wild has revealed

they sleep on average for just two hours a night.

It's the shortest amount time recorded of any mammal on earth.

Researchers say it could be down to the threat posed

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30.

Thank you. Picking up on the story we are covering about the police

service is being overstretched and having to downgrade some crimes

because of lack of resources. Tessa says well done for running the story

on net detectives. I left the Met last year. All too often we hear

about police officers doing something wrong, but never how hard

they work under impossible conditions. Keep your thoughts

coming in on that and everything else we are talking about on the

programme this morning. Use the hashtag Victoria Live

and if you text, you will be charged Let's get some sport

now with Hugh... Hugh - a difficult day

for British Cycling and Team Sky at the Culture, Media and Sport

Select Committee yesterday. That's true. The situation is

worsening. Well the situation in cycling

is worsening just a few months ago British Cycling and Team Sky

were amongst the country's most Now, with stories regarding

"therapeutic use exemptions" and "mystery packages",

that "faith" seems The latest news concerns

that "package" delivered to Sir Bradley Wiggins on the final

day of the Criterium du Team Sky boss Sir Dave Brailsford

told a Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee

in December, that it contained an "over-the-counter decongestant" -

but now we know the medic working with the team at the time -

Dr Richard Freeman - who missed hearing incidently,

due to ill health - has no record of Wiggins' treatment

at the time and that a laptop containing the details of medical

treatment had been stolen in 2014. UK Anti-Doping chief Nicole Sapstead

described the situation as "odd" and the Committee's chairman,

the MP Damian Collins said after the hearing

that the "credibility of Team Sky Despite those responses,

it seems things are unravelling for cycling and public perception

around the sport is bound to change for the worse should more

details like this come out. Turning to boxing. David Haye and

Tony Bellew have been warned after what they called extremely

disappointing comments before the heavyweight bout. What have they

been saying? Now there's a big bout this weekend

for boxing fans as David Haye the former World Champion takes

on Tony Bellew in a heavyweight clash in London but the build up

to the meeting has been marred by the words that have been used

by each fighter but particularly Haye who has been warned

by the British Boxing Board Haye told us last night he stands

by all of his comments, despite saying Bellew

was "risking his life" by moving up Every single thing I said. At the

time I meant it. If I could rewind time I would probably do things a

different way. But everything leading up to this fight will be

forgotten once Tony Bellew is stretchered out of the ring. It is

disrespectful. Dragging the sport through the mud. Wrong things to

say. Saying what he said in Liverpool, about Scousers and

lawyers, saying he was racially abused, we need to forget about it.

He is a brilliant fighter. But a scumbag of a man.

It should be a fantastic fight - you can hear it on Saturday night

in full on BBC Radio 5 Live from around 10pm.

A shortage of police detectives means "insufficient action"

is being taken to track down murderers, rapists and

other suspects in parts of England and Wales.

The warning comes from Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary -

the official watchdog which oversees policing standards.

Their report says one in three police forces need to improve

and a small number are putting the public at risk by rationing

The country's biggest force - the Metropolitan Police in London -

A Former Met Detective Dan Clark-Neal has been

Just a warning that this film contains flashing images

I wasn't able to give the level of service I wanted to give.

Because of the pressures you are under all the time.

They are carrying far too much of a workload

and also, they are short of colleagues.

The police are running on empty and goodwill, but unfortunately,

that goodwill is rapidly running out and it's frightening

and it's going to be to the detriment of victims.

You get the feeling the organisation doesn't

really care about you, but the people do.

It's not good for me, it's not good for my health,

The Metropolitan Police Service is the largest force in the country,

with over 31,000 officers, and I myself used to be

one of those officers, working as a detective

Last month Cressida Dick was named as the Met's new commissioner.

As she steps into the shoes of Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe

and becomes Britain's top police officer, she will undoubtedly face

intense media scrutiny from the start, having to tackle

a rise in violent crime, deciding on the use of tasers

and spit guards and dealing with political turbulence,

all whilst inheriting a force hit by low officer morale,

concerns about its performance and a budget under question

Despite retaining most of its officers, approximately one

third of the Met civilian and backroom workforce has been cut

and the Police Federation, who represent rank and file

officers, predict a reduction is now inevitable.

Since 2010, we have seen, across the country, a reduction

of about 21-22,000 of my colleagues from other forces.

The Met has not been subject to that at all,

so we haven't lost yet any of our officers in the Met.

We can't find the sort of money that is being

It is only recognisable that you have to reduce your numbers

So, with worries that officer numbers could be hit,

Cressida Dick may be concerned by reports of a shortage of 700

This is partly because of increased investigations into offences

like historic child abuse and cyber crime, all of which adds

London is currently divided into 32 boroughs and each one

has a dedicated CID, or criminal investigation

department, and the Met Police Federation says the detective

shortage is having an impact on staff.

They are carrying far too much of a workload and also,

Bearing in mind, we are 700 short, 700 CID officers short,

That is my colleagues you are talking about who are carrying 50,

60 crimes at a time, which puts them under

huge stress and it all attributes to where we are.

You never saw officers saying, I'm coming out of CID

But officers like Rachel made that decision.

She was a detective for 15 years, investigating everything

from fraud and burglary, to robbery and child abuse.

But recently, the pressures became too much and she decided to move

She has asked us to hide her identity.

There are 700 detective vacancies in the Met and I can

Why on earth would you put yourself through all of that aggravation

for the same pay when you can go back into uniform

Work a great shift pattern, turn up, whizz around in a car,

then answer 999 calls, someone needs arresting,

you do that, book them in, hand them over to a detective,

and then, the next day, you just come back in

A detective is a trained investigator and it took me two

years from applying in 2000 to actually becoming substantive

and there was a real sense of achievement that came with it.

I'm really looking forward to starting my new job.

It's a sense of achievement shared with former detectives like Anji

who in February resigned after ten years in the Met.

Explain to me why being a detective isn't as appealing now

as it was when you applied to do the job.

There is work coming in all the time and there just aren't enough hours

I think officers are carrying sort of 20 crimes or more.

Sometimes there is more than one victim in an investigation,

You don't just get allocated an investigation and that is it,

you are left to get on with it, there's work coming in.

We can't say, "Sorry, we are full, we are shut.

Simon also left this year after ten years in the job.

He was in the flying squad, the specialist unit investigating

I loved the role and the work and there is nothing better

when you are on a busy fast-time operation, but in ten years' time,

when my children are growing up and I'm a bit older,

I probably wouldn't want to be rolling out of bed at 4am

So I was going through the promotion process to become a detective

sergeant in the police and my options would have been

limited there because generally, when you get promoted,

you have to move off specialist unit, go back to a borough

constabulary and the idea of that, frankly, did not

Certainly the CID in borough has just been decimated.

I certainly noticed that when I was going into CID

Very few numbers and you could sense that morale was quite down.

This is all against a backdrop of a rise in crime.

In 2016, the Met recorded nearly 762,000 offences,

3.5% up on 2015, so, of course, with an increased

workload and a lack of staff comes heightened pressure.

And a little bit of stress is good, you can strive on it,

but when it is so high all the time, it's just not sustainable,

I'd often wake up with headaches because I wasn't

No matter how much you try to be organised at work and try to keep

on top of everything, there was just more and more

and more and there just wasn't enough of us to cope

Although everybody is trying to make it work and make the best of it,

it was just getting really stressful and I just found I was

thinking, I don't think I can do this any more.

Made me feel a bit of a failure, to be honest,

But you shouldn't be so hard on yourself, should you?

I thought it was a career I was going to do for 30 odd years and...

With a really heavy heart, I have had to leave now.

Rachel had a similar experience working in CID.

I don't want to be so exhausted or so under pressure

that I miss something, that either one of my victims gets

killed or gets hurt, a case gets thrown out of court

because of something I missed because I was

I found myself no longer being a police officer.

I was a stationary orderer, a photocopier fixer,

a social worker to team-mates, then there was being

Very rarely did I actually find myself doing any of the police work

Detectives are just so downtrodden and fed up and demotivated.

Things are going to get put on the back burner or some things

just get written off because there isn't the time

People just stop coming forward and then bad people will end up

Do you feel that is happening already, Rachel?

Bad people are getting away with things, suspects are not

getting dealt with properly because of a lack of resources?

Undoubtedly, because of stupid technicalities and mistakes

being made, and it doesn't matter whether evidence is overwhelming,

that somebody has done something, because procedure just hasn't been

followed and a case will get thrown out because of a mistake.

From the people we have spoken to, it seems morale among the Met

detectives is at a concerning low and with worries that continued

budget cuts will hit officer numbers in 2017,

the question is, where does this leave the world-famous Met CID?

We heard in your report, obviously, people talking about their distress,

really, and not being able to do the job properly. But some would say, if

you know what to do any job, you get on and do it, is there an element

about it being bad policing? There is really not. In that film you

could see that the officers we spoke to have over ten years experience,

they've been doing the role of detector for at least five years and

you cannot do it that long if you are not up to a -- detective. It is

down to heightened pressures as a result of increased workloads. There

is increased reporting of serious offences, like child abuse, rape,

domestic violence, and cybercrime has become a big issue. The

resources we once had are still there but that is the point to make

about the Met police but they have been moved to other departments and

offices are struggling. The report says crimes that have been

downgraded have not been properly investigated, the inspector says

that she is raising a red flag, a warning and consequences of it. We

heard about people getting away with things, what are the consequences?

To those we spoke to over the last couple of weeks, that seems to be

the case. Victims are not getting the services they should because

they cannot cope with pressures. That means that people are getting

away with crimes they committed. What message does it send to

criminals? Victims would feel neglected, trust will be damaged,

criminals will be thinking, we can get away with it? They will be. That

is why HM ICR clear that the national police... I forgot the

forename! Apologies there. The National police chief 's counsel,

they will have to sit with the College of policing and come up with

a resolution for this problem -- HMIC. They wanted done by June, and

have it in action by the end of the year. -- they wanted done. Thank

you. As we heard at the end of Dan's

report, the Met Police say detective recruitment and retention

is a priority. They also told us it's not an issue

unique to London and said: "London is actually the only force

to have maintained officer We also asked the Mayor's

office to respond. They told us there are a number

of schemes in place to attract recruits including: "External

recruitment campaigns; detective recruitment open days; a specialist

crime trainee detective scheme; There is also work to recruit more

direct-entry detectives." Mike e-mailed to say that he was a

detective constable and a police force outside of London where

officers regularly work 12-16 hours per day, they work seven days on,

three days off as a shift pattern. It is a must guarantee that you'll

go home late before overtime many my colleagues earn between 28- ?33,000,

after overtime we are paid less than many skilled workers. The situation

is not unique in the public sector but it is no wonder that recruitment

and retention is a dire problem. We will be talking more about it

after 10am, keep your thoughts coming in...

The NHS is standing on a 'burning platform' -

a dire warning from the chief inspector of hospitals in England -

who says four out of five hospitals are unsafe

And we will hear from women who expressed extreme morning sickness.

Some sufferers have said, according to a charity, that they have

terminated their pregnancies. We will speak to two women sick at

least 30 times per day during their pregnancies.

We would love to hear from you if you have had experience of that and

how desperate you got knowing that the sickness was going to continue

for months during the pregnancy. Here's Rebecca in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of todays news. Her Majesty's Inspectorate

of Constabulary, which oversees policing standards, has warned

of the "potentially perilous" state It found a third of forces

needed improvement - while a small number were putting

the public at unacceptable risk Some chief constables say

the report is unfair - because they have limited resources

- but the report's author said it The government says it will seek

to overturn a demand by the House of Lords that EU citizens living

in the UK should be allowed to stay Peers defied ministers

when they voted by a large margin to guarantee their rights

but the prime minister, Theresa May, has said that should be negotiated

alongside a deal for British The Bill will return

to the Commons later this month. Nearly two-thirds of England's

hospitals have been rated as "inadequate" or "needing

improvement" in a major new study The report, by the Care Quality

Commission, also found that four out of five trusts need

to improve patient safety. But more than 90% were judged to be

"good" or "outstanding" Senior opponents of President Trump

are calling for his newly appointed It emerged that Jeff Sessions,

had two undisclosed encounters with the Russian

ambassador, during the recent Mr Sessions oversees the FBI,

which is currently investigating The White House maintains

there was no improper contact. Voting is underway in the Northern

Ireland Assembly elections - The election was triggered

after the power-sharing government Ninety members will be elected -

18 fewer than previously. Polling closes at ten

o'clock tonight. The head of the Oscars says the two

accountants responsible for muddling up the main award envelopes

at Sunday's ceremony will 'never work on the show again.'

Brian Cullinan and Martha Ruiz were responsible for handing out

the envelopes, It's been described as the biggest mistake in 89 years

of Academy Awards history. That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 10.00. We are getting a report that a North

Korean official in Malaysia has been talking about the death of the half

brother of the North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. He was assassinated at

Kuala Lumpur airport 's, dying as a result of nerve gas. But an official

has said that he actually died of natural causes and that a heart

attack was the cause of death. There have been efforts by North Korea to

have the body repatriated to North Korea. There was also unhappiness

there about the postmortem exacerbation being carried out in

Malaysia. -- examination. That's the latest on that ongoing story after

the dramatic death of Kim Jong-Un's half brother.

British Cycling has acknowledged 'serious failings' in its record

keeping after being criticised by the woman in charge

Nicole Sapstead told a committee of MPs that UK Anti-Doping's

investigation into wrongdoing in the sport has been

hampered by problems - including Team Sky's

Andy Murray is into the quarterfinals at

the Dubai International, after a comfortable straight sets

-- victory over Spain's Gullermo Garcia-Lopez yesterday.

He'll play Germany's Philipp Kohlschreiber,

Earlier this morning Heather Watson was beaten in the second

Manchester City are through to the last eight of the FA Cup

after a comfortable 5-1 win in their replay against

City will play Middlesborough in the next round.

Celtic are now 27 points clear at the top

Scott Sinclair and two Moussa Dembele goals helped them

to a 4-0 win over bottom side Inverness Caledonian Thistle.

There were also wins for Rangers, Ross County and Partick Thistle.

And finally, Celtic have paid tribute to

Lisbon Lion Tommy Gemmell, who has died aged 73

The former defender Gemmell scored in the 2-1 victory

against Inter Milan in 1967 when Celtic became the first British

I'll have more sport Joanna just after ten.

The Chief Inspector of Hospitals in England has given a stark

warning that the NHS stands on a "burning platform".

Professor Sir Mike Richards says the traditional model of caring

for patients is "no longer capable" of delivering the needs

Our Health Correspondent Nick Triggle is here.

Really dramatic comments by him. What has led him to make these

comments? They are. This is a milestone for hospitals. The last

three years hospitals have been undergoing a tougher regime which

was meant to be patient safety at its heart. After the last one was

described as a tick box exercise. All 136 trusts in England have been

looked at. Four in five are not good enough on safety. They have cited

overcrowded wards, not enough nurses available, not enough doctors in

accident and emergency, not enough doctors in maternity units. This is

what Sir Mike Richards had to say: Increasing numbers of people being

referred to hospital, or arriving at accident and emergency.

We see the difficulty in what we call the flow through the hospital.

People having to wait too long in a and E particularly if they require

admission. This is where people are referred to trolley waits. People

being moved from waterboard because there are not enough beds. -- people

being from -- people being moved from Ward to

Ward. What is he hinting at? He is hinting at moving care from

hospitals to communities. They want to see hospital doctors running

community clinics. They want to see GPs, nurses and council care staff

working together in super hubs. The idea was to keep people well in the

community so vast numbers don't go into hospital and that relieves the

pressure. Thanks very much. Bungled out - after that

infamous Oscars mistake - the two accountants in charge

of the envelopes, are given The cost of housing in the UK seems

to be one of those problems Today, another damming account

from the homelessness charity Shelter shows that 8 out

of 10 families in rented accommodation can't afford to buy

a new home where they live. That's even if they use

the government's Help to Buy scheme. The report claims the West

Midlands is the least affordable region, with a 93%

of privately renting families struggling to afford to buy

an average-priced new home. It says the homes being built

are too expensive and poor quality. Today we want to focus

on what can be done to solve With me now are Beth Thomas -

she's been unable to afford to buy a family home,

and has been forced to rent with her husband and two children

for the past thirteen years. Henry Gregg from the National

Housing Federation - which represents Housing

Associations. Andrew Boff, chair of

London's Housing Committee, Kate Webb is Head

of Policy at Shelter. Thank you all for coming in. When

eight out of ten people cannot afford to buy a new home in their

area, it clearly shows this is not just a problem affecting London.

Absolutely not. Our housing market really is broken. The government

acknowledge this with their White Paper. The reasons for this, going

to the heart of how we build homes, we have relied in recent years on

the speculative development model where we sell land to the highest

bidder. Developers have to stretch themselves to the limited by it.

Which means you then need to price it as high as possible, but often

compromise on quality. It means developers are making profits

landowners are doing well, but the local communities who actually need

the homes are not getting homes they can afford and there are a beautiful

places where they want to live. -- they are. It is not about kite marks

and standard it is about how we build houses, starting with buying

land. Turning to the Victorian model of philanthropy. Yes. That is one

example of how it has worked well. But there is also the garden cities,

places like Letchworth. The Olympic Park was built because you had a

Housing Corporation who wanted to use the land for local people and

have homes in attractive places that crucially people can afford. Why is

that not happening more often. The problem is, there is not enough

people in the market. There is not enough people in the housing

business who are developing homes. And they're recent enough diversity

of provision as Shelter have indicated. There is one provision,

developers buying land, building as much as they can, and selling it for

as much profit as they can. I'm not saying we need to abandon that

wholesale. But we would need other forms. Has there been naivete? Have

builders just been cashing in? Meanwhile with the government

subsidising it, meaning that people who need the houses cannot afford it

because of the high prices? For a generation we haven't focused on the

housing market. We have let it go, hoping it would settle itself. In

the meantime we've loaded obligations on to developers.

Meaning it is harder to build homes. If you look at some of the proposals

from the report, it would encourage things like community land trusts. A

land trust strips the value of the land out of the equation and means

that you are just buying the home. That is going to be a marvellous

start for a lot of young people who are looking to get that first step

on the ladder. Let's not forget that most people in this country, their

aspiration is to have a home, have a stake in their home. It isn't to

rent. And that is what they have to do. And you are one of these people

who would like to buy their own home. Married, two kids, but you

just can't. Even at the height of mine and my husband's earnings we

haven't been in a position to buy a house. We've had to rent. Then rent

goes up. Then we can't save to get a deposit for a mortgage. It just

carries on. Each year prices go up again. We just gave up in the end.

We just thought there is no point in even thinking about trying to get a

mortgage, let's continue renting. Cut our hours, stop being so

stressed trying to earn so much money to buy a house, just wasn't

going to happen. You have given up. Yes. There are offerings by the

government, the first by scheme, the share scheme, was that no good? That

is unaffordable. Because you need to have a deposit together. While we

are renting we cannot afford to save for a deposit. We have nothing. We

are paying our outgoings with our incomings and that's it. There is

nothing left to save. What would help? What Shelter are proposing

would help. Having schemes where the housing is more affordable to the

normal kind of person like myself. Even on the share to buy scheme,

shared ownership, we would still have to have an income of ?40,000

between us just for a 40% share of a property in our area. My husband and

I can't... We don't have jobs that pay ?20,000 each. It's just not the

norm, I don't think. Lots of people probably do earn that much, but for

the general majority I think 20 grand and under is more realistic.

You with the National Federation, what is the answer? Political

leadership. Everyone accepts there is a housing crisis. They have done

the years, we've been talking about this forever. The government, this

year, with the white Paper has accepted the housing market has

broken. It's the first on the government has spoken like that. It

is really welcome. But we now need concrete proposals which will make a

difference. The main proposals need to be around land. We could do much

more. But we need land to come through at an affordable rate. We

can then build homes which are affordable to local people like Beth

so she can stay in the area where her parents are, where she has grown

up, and stay in the community. You both jumped in. When we said that it

has been like this for years, but you feel there is a change. Is now a

time when the issue is being properly grappled?

Certainly, it was important the government admitted the market is

broken, it gives them permission to do the radical changes needed and

have worked in the past. A really good example is how we use public

land. There's aways been the sunshine that yes, we could use

public land for building but they've always been told to sell it to the

highest bidder. But today, let's rethink that, it says on the report

today. It would be important agriculture is for if the council

retained a steak so that they could use public land to be used for homes

the local community could afford. Let's build that way rather than

flogging it to a developer and negotiating a few affordable homes.

Andrew, what about, there may be restrictions on who buys the houses,

places are built and then snapped up by investors, they are not for the

local community. That is a feature of the way we are developing

housing. We are putting so many obligations and developers that in

order to make up the obligations, they are building these very

expensive penthouse apartments that are unattainable for the local

people. The system is definitely broken. We think this has always

been the case. If you look at the election before last in London,

housing was really unimportant as an issue. It was transport, policing,

they were the burning hot topics. It is only recently we have realised

that we've not been providing solutions. Anyone who tells you

there is one solution to the housing problem is a charlatan, we need a

lot of little solutions. We need to encourage more self building, you

could build a home potentially for tens of thousands of pounds, rather

than the hundreds we talk about, if we are permitted self building.

Would you do that? I think possibly... It sounds.. Not a bad

option. But you would have to buy the land. This is an option, why not

just be able to choose a piece of land where you can develop and say

to the local authorities, I will build on this land, I'll pay you

when I first sell it so you can live there and pay your local authority

the capital value once you sell it on. That would start more excitement

and all of those people who watch grand designs, for example, I hope

that is not a plug for a programme we should not, but for all those

people who watch that programme and then, this is not achievable, in

many countries in Europe it is not that way because they have a better

attitude towards the use of land. Some creative solutions, thank you.

Keep your comments coming in. Let me read you some on police issues that

we've been reporting on this morning, the shortage of police

officers and pressure put on the services as a result, Richard says

he is a recently retired police constable. The lack of detectors has

a knock-on effect on the neighbourhood and uniformed response

officers who have to investigate crimes previously allocated to a

detective. They are often more serious and the victims need a

specialist approach that a response officer cannot provide to the same

degree. The public are being let down. Poor e-mailed, I resigned from

Cleveland Police in December 2013, he had approached 13 years of

service and several of those predominantly in CAD -- Paul. He

left for similar reasons and was completely disillusioned by how we

were treated by the government. Budgets were slashed and workloads

increased, I had commendations for my Chief Constable and a Crown Court

judge, I did not leave under any kind of clout that I left with a

heavy heart. -- under any kind of cloud. It is or is great for your

input, please keep it coming. -- it is always great to have your input.

Extreme morning sickness affects about one in 100 expectant mothers.

The Duchess of Cambridge famously suffered from the condition

which can cause women to be sick up to 50 times a day, and even

Pregnancy charities have found that some sufferers are being given such

poor care they feel they have no choice but to terminate

sickness or 'hyperemesis gravidarum' and suffered from extreme morning

during pregnancies for both her children.

She said it was so severe she won't have a third.

Megan Crawford, who had baby Otis just over three months ago,

struggled with the condition throughout her pregnancy.

She says her condition wasn't taken seriously by medical professionals.

And, Caitlin Dean is a nurse specialist and the chair

of pregnancy charity 'Pregnancy Sickness Support'

who also suffered from HG through all three of her pregnancies.

She says there's a huge disparity in care in the UK right now.

Thank you for coming in. Megan, you had Otis three months ago but it was

a terrible pregnancy, tell us about it. Four weeks into finding out that

we were pregnant with Otis, the sickness came on. I was being sick

up to 20 to 30 times per day, I lost a stone and a half in five weeks. It

took a bit of time from the GP surgeries to get referred to the

hospital. To the point that actually, by the time we got into

the hospital, I collapsed and lots of people struggle to get IVs into

me because I was so severely dehydrated. It sounds horrific.

Normally, when we are sick, not to that extent, just dozens of times

per day, you know it will lend because it will be a bug that you

knew it was related to the pregnancy. How did you get through

that? The trouble with it was is that when you are ill and sick, you

get 30 minutes relief after. But there is no relief. You feel

completely desperate. What was a typical day like? You lose day and

night, you will sleep for an hour, followed for one hour, then sleep

for one hour... On a rotation for months. The charity which is talking

about this today has said people have opted to terminate pregnancies

because of this. That's the only way that they can see to stop this

sickness. Did that thought ever cross your mind? I think the thought

of going on with the pregnancy was a very difficult thing to consider.

But I was quite lucky, in the end I did get really good care at the

hospital I was treated at. So, eventually, it was under control but

I spoke to women since volunteering for the charity that that has been

their only option. You know women who have terminated? Not personally,

but I have spoken to people. Rachel, you had extreme sickness through

both of your pregnancies, you have Molly and Oscar, now for Michael

Cole four and single Mac, how many times where you sick per day? -- now

four and one years old. It was relentless, that was at its worst.

When it was not vomiting, the nausea was overwhelming. It was continuous

for the first five months. How did you cope? It must have been

traumatic. It is, and it is very difficult. Obviously, with my son,

because I already have my daughter, it was more difficult on top. Caring

for her is very difficult when you cannot get off the bathroom floor or

get out of bed because you are so sick. I became very reliant on my

husband and other members of the family to help out. It is very

challenging, emotionally and mentally, when you cannot function

physically. Were you worried about the unborn baby as well? Yes. It is

very worrying to go through a pregnancy when he also ill and

malnourished. I lost over 20% of my prepregnancy birth weight. You would

be very concerned about the impact on the foetus and the fact that you

are taking medication, I was on strong medication for a long time,

and even though doctors reassured me that it was safe, you wonder if

you are doing the right thing by your child. The British pregnancy

advisory service said that this is not being taken seriously enough,

what is your view? That is the problem, luckily Rachel was

reassured that the medications was safe but many women face being told

that nothing is safe and they should not be taking medication or that

what they suffer is normal, but this isn't and they need treatment. It is

when women cannot access treatment that they are really being failed.

Have you met women, do you know women, who have terminated because

of it? Yes, a lot. A lot? Yes, I've run the charity and the helpline for

a number of years and termination is relatively common. We estimate about

10% will terminate the pregnancy because... 10% of women with

hyperemesis gravidarum would terminate? Yes, generally, that is

because they are not supported enough by the health care

professionals, or offer before range of medications. That is massively

improving at the moment, over the last couple of years we've seen

improvements thanks to the guidelines coming out and

introduction of day units for treating this so that they can

manage it in their lives. But women face losing their jobs are not being

able to pay their mortgages or childcare. They cannot manage it

within their lives, so they have no choice but to terminate. Megan,

would you have another baby after going through that? Yeah, we

desperately want voters -- we desperately want Otis to have

a sibling but it would take some planning. You said that you got good

treatment in the end, did it stop the sickness? I went back to work at

five months, but I was off for four weeks. It is a huge amount of time

to be out of work, when some people expect they can carry on as normal

throughout pregnancy? And maternity leave is calculated on a period of

time where most women with hyperemesis gravidarum are off sick

so they lose maternity pay because of that which is a big problem. Did

that pitted burden on the families? Umm, yes, I was sorted in terms of

maternity leave but it does have an impact -- did it put a burden. And

you would not have another baby as a result of the sickness you had,

Rachel? Yes, we have two children now, we are very blessed but to put

my daughter through that again, we cannot do that. And my husband, it

was a huge pressure on him. I had a lot of time off work because of how

ill I was, I was hospitalised for a long time, and with my daughter, I

was admitted for over four months. To put my children through that is

too much. The tall in your body as well, it does a lot to you

physically and mentally, and I'm not prepared to go through that again,

unfortunately -- toll. Understandably. Thank you to all

three of you. Let us know your experiences if you've had to go

through that. The Lords rebel against

the government - voting to ensure EU citizens to stay in the UK -

the government vow to Let's get the latest weather

update with Carol. How are you?

It is nice to see you. We had a spectacular Northern lights pictures

last night. We will show you them in a minute but if you are interested

in the Northern lights, tonight there's a good chance of seeing them

between 9pm and 3am across parts of Scotland, north of the Central belt,

and we are looking at places like Borrie, Aberdeenshire, and the

north-west Highlands and the Highlands. This is a cracking

picture from last night. In Aberdeenshire, look at this lovely

colours. And this one from northern Scotland, beautiful colours, a

really good set of Northern lights last night. And this one in the Isle

of Skye, another cracking picture. And more, this one is from this

morning, not the Northern lights but we have seen some snow as well as

rain across parts of the North of England. It has been a bright and

breezy day, windy this morning, across southern England and Wales.

That wind will ease as we go through the day, but it will still be

breezy. We have this line of cloud across North Wales, the North

Midlands, northern England and East Anglia. It has been producing snow.

But most of it will fizzle as we go through the day. Further south, dry

weather round today. Some sunshine, a couple of shower was dotted across

north-west England and south-west Wales. You would be unlucky if you

catch one in the South East, a lot of dry weather, breezy, sunshine in

the north-west, some showers. Bright skies in Northern Ireland, cloudy

from the South, showers on the hills of Scotland, and between, there will

be sunshine. Through the evening Anne -- and overnight, hill snow

extends across the Channel, into Scotland and northern England. These

two bands of rain push up from the south, in southern England and

Wales, and Northern Ireland. The risk of ice, damp surfaces and

low-temperature is in Scotland, this is also where you have a good chance

of seeing the Northern lights. Tomorrow, both bands of rain

continued to advance northwards. We could hang onto brighter breaks in

the far north of England. It is fairly tenuous. And some of it gets

into western Scotland with hill snow. Most of the North of Scotland

sees the lions share of any sunshine. Here, cold, six and 7

degrees. In the south, anywhere between ten and 12. As we head into

the weekend, the theme remains unsettled. Still dominated by low

pressure. This weather front extends from the Mediterranean through

Central parts of Europe, into our own shores. It produces rain in the

south-east, moving through Scotland and depositing hill snow. That is

across Northern Ireland and the last bit of the coal into the south-west

and also Wales. No heatwave, about 8 degrees to 11 degrees.

Hello it's Thursday, it's 10 o'clock - I'm Joanna Gosling.

Victims are being let down and suspects left untracked

as police forces around England and Wales struggle with cutbacks -

that's according to a report out this morning.

We will be speaking to former and serving

Everybody is trying to make it work and make the best of it, it was

getting really stressful. I ended up thinking, I don't think I can do

this any more, it made me feel a bit of a failure, to be honest, that I

could not stick at it. We will be talking more about this later. Lots

of former police officers have been messaging us about that. Also coming

up: Content 358, not content, 256. The contents have it.

The first defeat for the Brexit Bill in the House of Lords.

Now Government sources say ministers will try and overturn the vote.

But after last night's crushing defeat here will MPs over there be

emboldened and ready to define Theresa May-- the FAI Theresa May

and thwart her efforts. -- And after the mishap hailed

as the biggest mistake in 89 years of Oscar's history,

the two accountants responsible for muddling up the envelopes

will not be employed to do the job Here's Rebecca in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of todays news. Her Majesty's Inspectorate

of Constabulary, which oversees policing standards, has warned

of the potentially perilous state of the service in England and Wales.

It found a third of forces needed improvement while a small number

were putting the public at unacceptable risk

by rationing services. Some chief constables say the report

is unfair because they have limited resources but the report's author

said it should serve The Government says it will seek

to overturn a demand by the House of Lords that EU citizens living

in the UK should be allowed to stay Peers defied ministers last night

when they voted by a large margin But the Prime Minister, Theresa May,

has said that should be negotiated alongside a deal for British

citizens living in the EU. The Bill will return

to the Commons later this month. Nearly two-thirds of England's

hospitals have been rated as inadequate or needing improvement

in a major new study The report, by the Care Quality

Commission, also found that four out of five trusts need

to improve patient safety. But more than 90% were judged

to be good or outstanding The Department of Health has

welcomed the inspections, saying they form a key part

of its plan to make the health service the safest and most

transparent in the world. The North Korean foreign ministry

has questioned the Malaysian government's account

of the death of Kim Jong-nam, the half-brother of

North Korea's leader, who was killed at Kuala Lumpur

airport two weeks ago. In a statement it described

Malaysia's account, that said he had been poisoned with VX nerve agent,

as the height of absurdity. The North Korean official said

that there was a strong indication that the cause of his death

was a heart attack. Voting is under way

in the Northern Ireland Assembly elections for the second time

in ten months. The election was triggered

after the power-sharing government 90 members will be elected,

18 fewer than previously. Polling closes at 10

o'clock tonight. Senior opponents of President Trump

are calling for his newly appointed The BBC News Channel has won

the Royal Television Society TV Journalism Award for News Channel

of the Year. The jury recognised the News Channel

for its coverage of stories including the EU Referendum,

Donald Trump's election, the Nice terror attack,

Jo Cox's murder and the inquests That's a summary of the latest BBC

News, more at 10.30. Do get in touch with us

throughout the morning, If you text, you'll be charged

at the standard network rate. lots of people getting in touch

about the new report into police forces. One message says I can

empathise, by the time I retired I was shattered after the workload

kept increasing. Jack has said the police are in crisis, I recently

retired from the police, there are half the amount of police per capita

than the right in other European countries. Protection is suffering

because of this. Thanks for highlighting this. We will be

talking to the lead inspector who has made those comments about

raising a red flag because of concerns over the implications.

British Cycling has acknowledged serious failings in its record

keeping after being criticised by the woman in charge

Nicole Sapstead told a committee of Mps that UK Anti-Doping's

investigation into wrongdoing in the sport has been

hampered by problems with medical record keeping.

They've been trying to verify the contents of a mystery package

delivered to Team Sky in France six years ago.

What we are trying to establish in our enquiry is how does British

cycling and Team Sky administer the anti-doping policies to make sure

their riders and teams are clean. We have found out today that they

don't. It is a damning indictment of the way things are being run in

British cycling and at Team Sky. Heather Watson was knocked out

by France's Kristina Mladenovic in the second round of

the Mexican Open this morning. The match lasted three and a half

hours before Mladenovic won Andy Murray is into

the quarterfinals at the Dubai International,

after a comfortable straight The world number one needed just

an hour and 12 minutes to see off He'll face Germany's Philipp

Kohlschreiber in the last eight. Dan Evans is out though

after losing to Gael Monfils. The final day of the first

Formula One preseason test The track has been drenched in water

to simulate wet weather. Lewis Hamilton has described

driving the new cars There won't be any thrills and

spills for the Williams team though. They're sitting out today's sessions

after their rookie driver Williams say they'll be ready

for the second test next week. Big news in Spain last night,

as Luis Enrique the Barcelona manager announced he'd be leaving

the club at the end of the season, The former club captain

has won eight trophies in his three seasons in charge -

and it could be more. They lead the title race by a point

after Real Madrid's draw Wales international

Gareth Bale saw red for Real - Although he insisted

he didn't deserve it. Manchester City are through to

the last eight of the FA Cup after a comfortable win

in their replay against That's despite going behind early

on to this goal from Harry Bunn. City though were soon

back in control, Sergio They'll visit Middlesbrough

in the next round. Celtic are now 27

points clear at the top Scott Sinclair and two

Moussa Dembele goals helped them to a four nil win over bottom side

Inverness. There were also wins for Rangers,

Ross County and Partick Thistle. Finally staying with Celtic,

and the club have paid tribute to Lisbon Lion Tommy Gemmell,

who has died aged 73 The former defender Gemmell

scored in the 2-1 victory against Inter Milan in 1967

when Celtic became the first British Victims are being let down

and suspects left untracked by some police forces in England and Wales

according to a report out today. Her Majesty's Inspectorate

of Constabulary found a third It said a small number were putting

the public at unacceptable risk by rationing services

as they struggle with cutbacks. For some police officers,

the increase in workload has made Former detective Angelina Dawson

told this programme her reasons This is all I ever wanted to do

and I thought it was a career Officers are carrying sort of 20

crimes or more, give or take. That is a minimum of 20 victims,

a minimum of 20 suspects. I'd often wake up with

headaches because I wasn't No matter how much you try to be

organised at work and try and keep on top of everything

that there was just It was just getting really

stressful and I just found myself thinking,

"Actually, I don't think Joining me now is the report's

author, Zoe Billingham. Tom Gash, who's from

the Institute for Government. Sue Sim, former Chief Constable

of Northumbria Police. Also Dr Alan Billings who's

the Police and Crime Commissioner Thank you for joining us. Tell us

more about the specific evidence you found of police forces downgrading

crime, Zoe. To put this in context, two thirds are doing a good job.

What we said about the one third who is on occasions they are rationing

police services. Really by stealth. It isn't by grand design. We found

instances of in control rooms and emergency calls coming in, response

officers not being available and may be tied up in other jobs. Slowly

that call which was originally a high risk call is then, well, we

will go in an hour, then longer than that, 24 hour 's. What crimes are

being downgraded? It could be any sort. We spent a lot of time in

control rooms. We looked into the pot of unallocated jobs, if you

like. There were cases involving victims of domestic abuse, cases

involving children. I have to stress, this is a small minority of

forces at the moment. We are raising a warning flag. We don't want to see

these practices creep any further. We appreciate most are doing a good

job. One example given was a uniformed officer carrying out a

rape investigation. People just carrying out the sorts of

investigations which they are not trained for. That is linked to the

issue we have said is a national crisis, which is the lack of

detectives across England and Wales. We just heard from Angelini --

Angelina about her experience. We speak to detectives dealing with

complex crime, more straightforward crime, and they tell us their jobs

are hard. They have high caseloads. I have had tears in these rooms with

people who see some of the nasty as things. The ravages of the depraved

he -- depravity of people. The pressure of the workload is causing

people to leave the service. People we don't want to see leaving the

service. We have said there is this national crisis in terms of the

shortage of detectives. The police service needs to get to grips with

that. He needs to understand why people are leaving. There are many

different reasons why people are leaving or not wanting to become

detectives. There needs to be a national plan to address this. How

do you think people who are doing bad things will look at this? The

public need to understand the context of our message. I will go

back to our core message. Two thirds of police forces are doing a really

good job for the public. And even that third where we are seeing

problems, they are still doing some things very well. The problems you

have highlighted, it sounds like people are getting away with crime.

When this is put out there it sends a message, well, certain crimes

going to be taken that seriously, I can get away with it. You are right.

And moving on to another area, how domestic abuse victims are dealt

with. We have seen in some forces that police are discontinuing

investigation early on on the grounds that the victim does not

support police action. We know the complexities about a woman coming

forward to the police. We want to see forces supporting victims. We

don't want to see the position of one falls in the country where if

you are a perpetrator of domestic abuse you have a 75% chance of not

being arrested for that crime. Whereas if you are a perpetrator in

another force you have a 75% chance of being arrested. It makes no

sense. It is not about money. Those forces are struggling in some of

those areas we have identified, they forces which are not subject to

severe financial crises like other forces. It is a complicated picture.

They're all sorts of things we are saying that need be put right. --

there are. The police service isn't in crisis. It isn't in meltdown.

There is a national crisis around detectives. But things can get

better. Does it stop with the constables? Everybody doing a job,

they know what is right, what is wrong, how is this?

Chief constables are the leaders of the organisations, it is their

responsibilities to work out, with the police and crime commission, the

priorities. It is their job to make sure they have sufficient resources

to meet those priorities, and if there is a stretch in the system,

let's not see that and be shuffled under the carpet, the demand be

suppressed, let's not act as if it is a problem, let's have the debate

in public. Let's raise these issues. If the police service says it cannot

do certain things, at least the debate should be informed in public

and by the public. Sue, you resigned in 2015 after five years in charge,

were these pressures that you were experiencing, were you experiencing

those when you were in charge? Actually, firstly, let me make it

clear I retired in 2015, not resigned! Sorry. No, one of my big

issues with policing per se, I agree with the majority of Zoe's report.

But, to me, the issue is chief constables still act in splendid

isolation, as indeed do government departments. The Home Office, the

Department of Health, the local authorities, everybody works in

splendid isolation. When you are looking at things like police

officers not being able to attend the most urgent of calls and that,

to me, is absolutely appalling as a former Chief Constable, it's a

dreadful situation which should not be able to continue but if what we

are saying is police officers should be getting to the most urgent of

causing the appropriate time, then one of the things we should be

looking at is how do you manage the lesser calls? They are still very

important to the public. How would you categorise what is a lesser

call? Obviously, anything bad that happens to any victim feels like

something is absolutely worth investigating, plus it is about the

messaging. If police let the public know, that the people doing bad

things know that certain things were be treated seriously, it sends a

powerful message in that direction? It's not about not taking them

seriously but, for example, a number of years ago, when I first took over

as temporary Chief Constable in Northumbria, we ran a project

through the Home Office, together with our partners in the local

authorities, which actually allowed us to deal with less urgent calls

across all of the appropriate agencies, and so we made sure that

calls that should have been dealt with by police were dealt with by

police, and those that should have been dealt with by local authorities

were done so. It was classified as a great success by all of the local

authorities and by Northumbria Police across the Northumbria area.

But we could not come to any consensus about how funding should

be delivered, to deliver the project. OK, sorry to interrupt, I

want to bring in the serving police and crime commission in Yorkshire,

where you surprised by the overall picture or is this your experience?

I'm not surprised at all, it paints a stark picture, and this is a red

flag, a warning sign, that things are potentially heading in not a

good direction. Two things are going on. One is that demand is

increasing, and the other is that resources are getting fewer, there

are fewer officers and police and community support officers

available. Why is demand increasing? In part because the police service

is becoming the default surface medical service for other public

bodies. As they reduce, do less, they do more as a 365 days per year

service, to pick up. Is it OK to downgrade a car crime and not treat

it as priority? Of course not but under those pressures, that is what

will happen and the report... Is it happening in your area? I hope not,

one of the things the report does for every police force area is

identify those things which need attention. As all police and crime

commission is, I will be going through the report as it applies to

us to see what we can do. I'd take the point that we can do more with

local authorities operating locally, but they are also squeezed. We have

another guest I would like to bring in, Tom, you talk about crime policy

committee wrote a book and you think there should be a new approach to

policing? The important thing happening that we need to recognise

at the moment, police are responding to what they are told to do. What is

most urgent. That is people who call up and the pressure that comes from

HMIC to do more of this, more of that, and more of the other. When

you have 14% less money and officers and 16% less money than 2010, it is

nonsense to say you can do more of everything. You need to, obviously,

be effective. Some are proving more effective than others in the forces,

but you need to tackle demand and do things that reduce crime. Things

that have been effective over the last 20 years have actually been to

do with working with industry to improve car security, which has seen

car crime reduce by about one sixth of the level to what it was 20 years

ago, working with Internet providers to think about the same things for

online fraud, and about how we work in local places to do with the risk

of violence around alcohol. That makes sense in terms of long-term

strategy, but right now, with police forces in the situation they are in,

with calls coming in, how do you prioritise? It's a good question.

The challenges I would imagine too few people are willing say what C

said, we have two prioritise calls coming in. Everybody would say that

they would hope that the caller is treated with utmost seriousness,

nobody politically is going to say, can we do things differently and

take a call from the public when their car has been stolen, and ask

them whether they want us to come to the scene of the crime, or whether

they would want us to put it into tracking data? Would that be an

answer? I do not think so. There are simpler lances in a convex world of

policing. I think Tom is right about prevention. We've seen one quarter

of all forces deteriorate in their performance in neighbourhood

policing. This is where police officers are in communities, getting

ahead of crime and stopping it happening in the first place,

nipping it in the bud and doing directed and targeted activity to

keep people safe. People would tell you and they tell me they would

rather not be a victim of crime in the first place, and police do a

good response. There's that thing about bobbies on the beat, is that a

priority? It's an interesting question. The model of policing in

the 21st-century must be preventative at heart but also

provided in a different way. In the report, we say the police service

and the College of policing, the body which sets standards for

policing, they need to determine those bits of neighbourhood policing

which are important to stop crime happening in the first place. How do

we adapted to meet 21st-century? Across the country, we see some

forces do interesting things with PCSOs. Instead of them patrolling

the streets, they are patrolling cyberspace so they are online and

providing information to people. We do not know that is happening, so it

is not the high profile thing people like. Exactly, it is a warning

people about crime about being ripped off online or coria fraud,

whatever it might be. Let's not go back to a bobby on every beat, but

have police officers and PCSOs in communities, it is fundamental to

solving this problem and stopping crime happening in the first place,

addressing those issues that Alan talked about, about demand. It is

fundamental to policing. Tom, you wanted to add? Yes, if you look at

what policing has done, it has coped very well compared to other public

services with the levels of cuts and constraints it had. The government

should get credit for not cutting further in 2015. It was going to but

decided against it. In prisons, they cut further. We saw the consequences

in prisons. What the government needs to have this the right early

warning systems and what we can be thankful for is the Inspectorate

raised these issues before things got worse than they were. Every

year, you have said they are managing well, but now is the time

to raise the flag? We must emphasise that the reports show that more

forces got better than got worse this year, which is an extraordinary

achievement. It is a credit to the officers, at what cost? Some are

going off sick, there are problems with morale. We must address it in

terms of funding and in terms of priorities. We got any milk from a

serving officer who wants to remain anonymous, they are so exhausted but

keen to write a few lines to add their voice -- and e-mail. In 2007 I

became a detective constable. At first, it was excitable,

unpredictable, for filling and enjoyable, the teams were great to

work in but it is not unusual for the main detectives to carry over 20

crimes. At my lowest point I was on 25. If you speak to any detective in

the Met, they would say a figure of 18-20 max is the maximum anyone can

investigate realistically. I told my line manager at the time the

concerns with dealing with this many but he was not interested. One of

the many things, to be clear, police officers across the UK are the best

anywhere in the world. But, it is still incumbent on Chief constables

and the College of policing, to look at our

outdated procedures and the huge amount of bureaucracy that the

stores are still telling me they carrying. -- that officers. You talk

about the length of time detectives take to be trained, do we actually

need to do that? Can we do things differently? There are all sorts of

different educational ways that we can teach investigative procedures,

policing needs to move out of the 20th century ideals and into the

21st-century. I agree with what Tom was saying about prevention. I

absolutely agree that neighbourhood policing is an essential tool, but

Chief constables still have the responsibility to look at cutting

unnecessary bureaucracy and improving our processes and

procedures. Thank you to all of you. A quick comment from the Minister

for policing, he says the government has protected police funding through

2015 spending reviews, as you mentioned, and there is no excuse

for any force who fail to deliver on their obligations, those identified

as requiring improvements must take the HMIC findings seriously, and I

expect to see rapid improvements. Thank you to all of you.

Problems for the government Brexit bell in the House of Lords last

night. Norman Smith, there's problems in the form of defeat?

Many people would take the view that the House of Lords is a sleepy old

chamber, anything but, last night, the peers inflicted a crushing

defeat on Theresa May. Anyone inside and outside of the government was

surprised by the ferocity of the defeat but the question is, whether

it has emboldened MPs in the Commons to do exactly the same and whether

it encourages the peers here to inflict more defeats on Theresa May

surrounding Brexit. Let's have a listen to some of the exchanges from

last night. Take the high moral ground. Give reassurance to the

millions who have made their home here in the expectation that they

can continue to live and work here. These people need to know now, not

in two years or 12 months, they simply cannot put their lives on

hold. We need them to stay, as much, if not more, than they wish to do

so. So, the negotiating position amongst the same. Do as we wish, or

we will shoot our own foot off. I completely repudiates your idea that

I should treat any fellow human being as a bargaining counter or

anything of the kind. Why is anybody here today so excited about an

amendment? Which looks after the foreigners and not the British. The

best way of helping them is to pass this legislation as quickly as

possible, to activate Article 50, and then to negotiate to give these

people the rights they deserve to stay in our country. So, what

happens next? Theresa May will try to overturn last night's defeat in

the House of Commons and the question is, whether there are

enough Tory MPs to rebel and walked. I have to say, talking to people

this morning, my sense is that there is a rebellion which will be on the

small side, suggesting Theresa May will probably be able to overcome

last night's reverse, so she is still on course to trigger Article

50, perhaps by mid-March. A lot of people possibly pointing to

Wednesday, March 15th. OK, Norman, thank you.

The Conservative peer, and former pensions minister,

Baroness Altman voted against the government.

She joins me now. If I can put Norman's comment to you. He said why

is everybody so bothered about an amendment which looks after the

foreigners and not the British? I fundamentally disagree with that

viewpoint. In fact, what the amendment would do, or even better

what the government itself could do without needing any amendments to

the bill, it could just unilaterally guaranteed the right of the Citizens

to stay, is helping British citizens who are in the EU to have a better

chance of a quick resolution of their uncertainty. And what we are

suggesting here is that the government take back control of the

moral high ground and guarantee the rights of citizens here that need to

stay, that we need, and when I was listening to the debate last night,

and I hadn't made up my mind what I was going to do before I sat down

yesterday, it became obvious to me that we are being illogical and

immoral in refusing to unilaterally guarantee the rights of those people

who are already here, who came here in good faith, who are part of our

communities, part of our health service. Who are doing all sorts of

wonderful work in our country. Just doing the decent thing which British

people will normally do. And saying straightaway that we are not going

to use them as negotiating collateral. We are going to go into

these very difficult negotiations with our European partners, having

shown the goodwill, having taken the moral high ground, and then just

move on to the much, much more difficult and stressful negotiations

from a position of strength. You say from a position of strength. The

government's view is, you talk about a moral high ground, but the

government says without a bargaining chip what would guarantee reciprocal

rights for British citizens in the EU? Well, what became apparent in

the debate last night was two things. One, the groups representing

British people who live in the EU have asked the government to

unilaterally guarantee the rights of EU citizens here, because they

believe that will force the hand of the EU. And they will just have to

do this much more quickly rather than making it part of the

negotiation. But there is no guarantee on that. That requires

other people to do the right thing, as well. The logic of that argument

is that we are not going to guarantee the rights of the EU

citizens here. Morally that is utterly wrong. If we still insist on

making them negotiating, bargaining chips, whatever you want to call

them, we are not going to do the right thing. As Lord Lawson himself

said, in the end the British Parliament isn't going to vote to

throw these people out. So why are we putting them through this

distress and misery? Why are we not saying we are going to do the right

thing? Two wrongs never make a right. And it has got to be

appropriate for Britain to show that we have decided to leave the EU but

the Boat Leaves campaign said that the Citizens here will not be

affected. -- Vote Leave. Right now we guarantee... It doesn't need to

delay article 50 triggering, it doesn't need to be part of this

whole thing. If it comes back to the House of Lords, some peers have

indicated that they wouldn't vote against the government again in

order not to frustrate the process so that Article 50 could still be

triggered on the 15th of March, what would your approach be, would you

vote against again? What the House of Lords has done yesterday is what

it is supposed to do, which is sent back something to the Commons to

think again if we believe that a decision has been made that needs

more careful consideration. That is what we have done. What I hope is

that the government itself will come forward with its commitment to these

people. But if it doesn't... If that doesn't happen, if it does come back

to the House of Lords, you are facing the same choice again, but

come you know, would you go down the route of potentially thwarting the

government triggering article 50, or would you give the government your

vote? Ultimately the final decision rests with the elected house, the

House of Commons, I respect that. I think the role of the House of Lords

is to ask the government to think again and that's what we've done.

Thank you very much for your time. Let's catch up with all of the news

with Rebecca. Her Majesty's Inspectorate

of Constabulary, which oversees policing standards, has warned

of the potentially perilous state of the service in England and Wales.

It found a third of forces needed improvement while a small number

were putting the public at unacceptable risk

by rationing services. Some chief constables say the report

is unfair because they have limited resources but the report's author

said it should serve Nearly two-thirds of England's

hospitals have been rated as inadequate or needing improvement

in a major new study The report, by the Care Quality

Commission, also found that four out of five trusts need

to improve patient safety. But more than 90% were judged

to be good or outstanding The Department of Health has

welcomed the inspections, saying they form a key part

of its plan to make the health service the safest and most

transparent in the world. A former pensions minister has told

this programme that the government should take back control of the

moral high ground and guarantee now writes for EU citizens living in the

UK after Brexit. Peers defeated the government last night over the

issue. Baroness Altman told us ministers should do the right thing

now. But Theresa May says the right of EU citizens in the UK will be

negotiated after article 50 is triggered. The bill will return to

the House of Commons later this month.

The North Korean foreign ministry has questioned the Malaysian

government's account of the death of Kim Jong-nam,

the half-brother of North Korea's leader,

who was killed at Kuala Lumpur airport two weeks ago.

In a statement it described Malaysia's account, that said he had

been poisoned with VX nerve agent, as the height of absurdity.

The North Korean official said that there was a strong indication

that the cause of his death was a heart attack.

Voting is under way in the Northern Ireland Assembly

elections for the second time in ten months.

The election was triggered after the power-sharing government

90 members will be elected, 18 fewer than previously.

Polling closes at 10 o'clock tonight.

The BBC News Channel has won the TV journalism award for news channel of

the year. The jury recognised the news channel for its coverage

including the EU referendum, Donald Trump's election, the Nice terror

attack, Jo Cox's murder, and the coverage of the Hillsborough

disaster. That's a summary of the latest

BBC News, more later. British Cycling has acknowledged

serious failings in its record keeping after being criticised

by the woman in charge Nicole Sapstead told a committee

of Mps that UK Anti-Doping's investigation into wrongdoing

in the sport has been hampered by problems

with medical record keeping. Andy Murray is into the

quarterfinals of the Dubai International after a comfortable

straight sets victory over Garcia-Lopez yesterday. He will play

Philipp Kohlschreiber next. Dan Evans is out. Heather Watson was

also beaten in the second round of the Mexico Open.

Manchester City are through to the last eight of the FA Cup

after a comfortable win in their replay against

That's despite going behind early on to this goal from Harry Bunn.

City though were soon back in control, Sergio

They'll visit Middlesbrough in the next round.

Celtic are now 27 points clear at the top

Scott Sinclair and two Moussa Dembele goals helped them

to a four nil win over bottom side Inverness.

There were also wins for Rangers, Ross County and Partick Thistle.

Finally staying with Celtic, and the club have paid tribute

to Lisbon Lion Tommy Gemmell, who has died aged 73

The former defender Gemmell scored in the 2-1 victory

against Inter Milan in 1967 when Celtic became the first British

Some more of your comments to bring you on the police story, the

restrictions on what police can do because of constraints on resources.

An anonymous e-mail says I'm a serving officer in the West Midlands

Police and have direct experience where domestic violence incidents

which need to be attended within an hour sometimes don't get a response

for over six hours. We are supposed to have 1100 officers on response

but currently we only have 800, not enough. Many are on long-term sick

due to pressures. Broken. An e-mail from Bob, my wife worked

as a civilian support Officer, she did all of the mundane jobs

mentioned in your report allowing detectives to detect. Our job was

done away with as a saving leaving officers to photocopy all on top of

their day job. Cost effectiveness is not thought through.

Mavis says I have a first-hand experience of this as a victim.

Youths were throwing stones at my house. I had to hide in my garden

shed whilst waiting for a response. The youngsters were left to do what

they want, the police never turned up. Keep those comments coming.

an international conference to support women's health services

Belgium is hosting an international conference to help support women's

health services in developing countries that provide

It's an attempt to make up for a shortfall caused

by President Trump's decision to ban foreign aid being used

The announcement last month is more far reaching than previous

restrictions on non-governmental organisations, because it

includes those providing information about abortion,

and could put at risk maternal health services and HIV AIDS groups.

a nation that depends heavily on international aid.

Our correspondent, Naomi Grimley, is in Brussels for us.

Over to you. You may remember the picture of Trump 's signing into law

that executive order on the global gag rule. Because it involved him

sitting at a desk with several men behind him. It caused a lot of

controversy on social media. Today a load of European countries and

Canada which is also attending are trying to fill the shortfall in the

funding left by that global gag rule. To talk more about this I have

with me Micah. Thanks for joining us. Can you explain what is at stake

because of this new US policy. Women's health is at stake and

women's choice in reproductive choices. This global gag rule means

that organisations like ours will no longer receive funding from the US.

For us, about 1.5 million women come every year, will no longer be able

to access family planning. The impact of that on their lives and

health is significant. There is a worry that this time around it goes

further than other Republican administrations have done before.

There is a worry to that, indeed. We are still finding out what exactly

the parameters will be of the Mexico City policy with the global gag

rule. We fear other organisations will also have to sign up to it,

which means that abortion services, which are very necessary for women

worldwide and are illegal in many countries, organisations can't talk

about it any more, and cannot even direct women to an abortion

provider, or cancel women -- or counsel a woman about it. Is this