13/03/2017 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello it's Monday, it's 9.00am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

This morning: could cancer sniffing dogs save lives and millions

I want to tell you something extraordinary with pioneering change

on how we diagnose cancer and people living

leader Iain Duncan Smith calls with serious

And he meets some of the people whose lives have also been saved

by dogs trained to spot signs of diabetes.

I am going to go to bed and my husband doesn't have to worry when

he wakes up in the morning, I will be dead next to him. Simple things

like that, it is difficult to put into words, but that is what it's

like having magic. We'll bring you the

full story shortly. Also on the programme -

the final hurdle before the UK officially begins divorce

proceedings from the EU gets Tory MPs and peers paving the way

for Theresa May to trigger Article 50 as early as tomorrow morning.

And aid agencies are warning that time is running out

to save an estimated 20 million people facing famine

We'll be live in those four affected countries and ask whether the world

is doing enough to tackle a humanitarian crisis.

We will bring you the latest breaking news and developing

stories. We are going to talk about a case in the Supreme Court which

could have profound legal implications for policing because it

will determine whether officers can be sued by victims if they don't

investigate a case adequately. Plus, find out who was in this box and

why. Get in touch. Use #Victoria Live and if you text,

you will be charged The bill which gives Theresa May the

power to trigger the Brexit process enters its final stages in the House

of Commons later. Ministers believe they have enough support to overturn

the two changes made to the bill by the House of Lords. One guarantees

the rights of EU nationals living here. The other, ensures parliament

will be given a meaningful vote on any exit deal. Norman Smith is at

Westminster. This is almost it, what is likely to

happen today, Norman? The truth is, by the end of the day, Theresa May

will have got her bill paving the way to leave the EU through

Parliament unamended. I said that because talking to rebel Tory MPs,

who will get a vote on those two changes proposed by the House of

Lords, guaranteeing the right of EU nationals, guaranteeing Parliament

vote. They are not in the mood to have a real fight. My sense is, Tory

rebels will back down, provided ministers make some reassurance,

saying they understand. I think they will back off. When the measure goes

back to the House of Lords, although Liberal Democrat peers are talking

about getting camp beds in, preparing to stay all night to fight

this, hour by hour, the reality is, when you put together Labour peers,

crossbench peers, they too will back down which means about midnight or

so, I suspect the reason may well have her Article 50 bill. Albeit,

this morning Jeremy Corbyn was saying, he still wants parliament to

be kept in the loop during the negotiations. We don't have Jeremy

Corbyn! Sorry about that. If it goes the way you have just described it

today, what, when will Theresa May trigger Article 50, the process for

us to begin the negotiations to leave the European Union? The truth

is, if anyone says they know when Theresa May is going to trigger

Article 50, I think they are telling a porky. The only person who really

knows, really knows is Theresa May herself. I am guessing, but I think

she will be waiting to see how the debate goes today. The mood of

Parliament. She will also want to see the reaction in tomorrow's

papers. I feel personally, she will go sooner, rather than later, maybe

even tomorrow, just to show she is on the front foot, pressing ahead,

got momentum and is not hanging around until the end of the month.

My gut instinct is she will go sooner rather than later and back

could be tomorrow. Joanna is in the BBC

Newsroom with a summary A British man has been jailed

for six years in Indonesia, over the killing of a policeman

on the island of Bali. Our South East Asia Correspondent,

Jonathan Head is following What more can you tell us about this

case, Jonathan? It is a disturbing and baffling case in some ways.

David Taylor was a DJ living in Australia. He was visiting Bali with

his Australian girlfriend, Sarah, last August. They had just arrived.

On the beach that night they had an altercation with a police officer,

who they believe was involved in taking Sarah,'s bag. That

altercation ended up in a fight in which David Taylor struck the

policeman several times, apparently with a bottle and other items and

then left him, although took his credit cards and his phone. The

policeman later died on the beach where he was left. The couple were

apprehended a couple of days later. In the end they were not charged

with murder, they were charged with assault, leading to death. That is

what he has been convicted. We understand he is not going to

contest the sentence I think he may view, given the outcome of his

fight, there were apparently 42 injuries on the policeman, getting a

six-year sentence might be considered lenient. His girlfriend,

Sarah Connor may appeal her sentence. She argued she only tried

to intervene in the fight to stop it, but was convicted of being an

accessory and got four years in prison. It is a strange case. There

doesn't seem to be any reason why in incident turned out as violently as

this one did. The sentence today won't surprise anybody. Thank you,

Jonathan. Rail staff from three firms

across England have started 24-hour strikes in a dispute over

the role of guards. The RMT's 30th strike day

in its dispute with Southern over plans for driver-only-operated

trains, has spread to Guards and drivers working for

Merseyrail and Northern are taking Rail bosses argue it's

about modernising services Police are launching

an unprecedented appeal at the Supreme Court

against a ruling it failed the victims of one of the UK's

most dangerous rapists. Judges said Scotland Yard had

breached the human rights of two women because officers didn't

properly investigate John Worboys who was jailed for life in 2009

after committing more The outcome of the case

could have profound legal A trusted Black Cab driver,

but one of the country's John Worboys attacked more than 100

women over six years, hunting them down late at night

in London with an elaborate trick. He'd show off a bag of cash claiming

it was a big gambling win and offer Few of his victims could entirely

remembered what happened next Few of his victims could entirely

remember what happened next and police did not take

their complaints seriously. One of his victims from 2007

had her account dismissed. Had the officers who looked

at my case taken my allegations seriously, they would've found

substantial pieces of evidence. They didn't do that,

and as a result, so many more women The botched investigation led

to a landmark ruling by the High Court that Scotland Yard

breached the human rights of the women, and that

means police can be sued. The force is now challenging that

unprecedented ruling. This case is really important

because women need to be able to hold police to account

when they fail as catastrophically If the police had acted sooner,

if they'd listened to the women, and if they had followed their own

policies, it's likely that fewer As it was, he was

left on the streets. The force admits it made mistakes

but argues that important legal If the justices rule

against the Met, it could have profound implications about how

police chiefs prioritise serious After 9.30 this morning,

Victoria will be talking to a former Met Dectective inspector,

who was with the Met at the time Worboys committed his early crimes,

and a woman who was raped by two strangers two years ago,

when she 18 years old. Aid agencies are warning that time

is running out to save an estimated 20 million people facing famine

in four African countries. There's growing concern

about four countries in particular, Nigeria,

South Sudan, Yemen and Somalia. It's been described as the worst

humanitarian crisis in 60 years and experts say that without urgent

help many will simply starve. After 10.00, Victoria

will be talking to aid agencies in Nigeria,

South Sudan, Yemen and Somalia. NHS trials are currently assessing

if dogs could also be used to detect One study shows that specially

trained dogs can pick up the presence of such cancer in urine

samples in 93 % of cases. the presence of such cancer in urine

samples in 93% of cases. Coming up on Victoria Derbyshire,

we have an exclusive film with the former Conservative Party

leader, Iain Duncan Smith, who's drawing attention to research

happening in the UK, which aims to show how dogs can

help diagnose cancer. The Queen is launching

the Commonwealth Games Baton relay The relay marks the start

of the countdown to The Games which will be held in

April next year. Over 388 days the baton

will visit all 71 Commonwealth countries, before arriving

at the Australian Gold Coast That's a summary

of the latest Palace. We will have a dog in the studio who

saved his own's life thousands and thousands of times.

Do get in touch with us throughout the morning use the hashtag Victoria

live and If you text, you will be charged

Time for the sport now with Hugh and the giant-killing

The semi-finals will involve four of the best teams

If you are a supporter of those teams, it is marvellous, if you are

not, you are like, really? The likes of Sutton getting to the

fifth round and Lincoln getting to the quarterfinals, it is rare to

have four of the top six sides contesting the semifinals. I think

it has happened only twice in at least 20 years and with Manchester

United and Chelsea having the chance to join the three already true, that

will be the case later. Lincoln did ever so well to get to the

quarterfinals and also until nearly half time until Theo Walcott got the

first of five goals for Arsenal in that much. Eventually losing and

their fairy tale run may be over, but their heads are high. Danny

Cowley and his brother who is the assistant, the Lincoln management

team got to spend an hour or so with Arsene Wenger after the game. They

will appreciate that time. Arsenal are now two to the third semifinal

in four years. They will it the other times. Across north London,

Spurs went one better. No doubt hoping to do exactly that. They won

6-0. Millwall have beaten two of the Premier League sides on their way to

the quarterfinals. But you are right, the giant-killing is done for

another year. Could Millwall be in trouble

with the FA because of the behaviour They may be, the FA will be looking

at some of the chanting that seemed to have a racist element. They were

aimed at Sonia men. The FA will ask for observations from both the

clubs. Neil Harris said at the time he didn't hear anything and he

doesn't condone it and any guilty fans will be dealt with harshly.

Now, I know you're nowhere near the age of 50, Hugh...

But I'm assuming you'll be hanging up your football boots well

before you get there - there's a Japanese player

This man is 50 and still scoring competitively in professional

matches. He has broken the record held by Sir Stanley Matthews. He was

the oldest player to score a goal in professional football at the age of

50 years and five days. But this Japanese player made his debut in 19

76. He scored Big E Raqqa goal in his second division match. It is

quite impressive. Not only that, he is psychic. He said the vibes were

with him before he scored that goal, he had a feeling. Thank you very

much. Much more from you later. Those of you who watch our programme

regularly will know that every so often we ask an MP to make a film

for us about an issue When we approached former

Conservative Party leader Iain Duncan Smith, who is the former

Work and Pensions Secretary and one of the highest profile campaigners

to leave the EU the subject he was most passionate

about surprised us. He chose to draw attention

to some incredible research happening in the UK,

which aims to show how dogs - can help us to diagnose cancer

in the very early stages. Initial studies show specially

trained dogs can detect prostate Iain Duncan Smith's wife Betsy

was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2009 and became involved

with the charity "medical detection dogs" which is what sparked

Mr Duncan Smith's interest. Here's his exclusive

film for this programme. My name is Iain Duncan Smith. I'm

the member of Parliament for Chingford and Woodford Green. I used

to be a member of the Cabinet, but I'm not here to talk about politics,

I'm here to talk about something much, much more interesting.

In this film, I want to tell you about something extraordinary. About

pioneering research with the potential to change how we diagnose

cancer and how people living with serious illness can be helped to

manage their conditions with the help of this lot and their

remarkable sense of smell. Dogs like these are capable of

detecting the tiniest of odour concentration. I mean up to one part

per trillion, and maybe even more, but what does that mean? Imagine one

teaspoon of sugar, dissolved not just in one Olympic sized swimming

pool, but in two Olympic sized swimming pools and the dogs can

detect that. That means that once properly trained they're able to

detect odours associated with disease in human beings. In other

words these dogs are capable of literally sniffing out disease.

Experts agree that early detection is the most important factor in

surviving cancer and the research has been conducted here offers an

opportunity for us to drast drastically improve the early

detection of the disease. In this test, a specially trained cancer

detection dog is told to circle a carousel holding eight evenly spaced

urine samples. One is from a patient with prostate cancer and the other

seven are from healthy individuals. Indication four. Remarkably, the dog

is able to detect the sample from the cancer patient. Well, that was

amazing. I mean, I have never seen anything like that. How do you

actually get the dogs to do all that, to train, to make sure they

check the right samples? How does that come about? Well, all our work

is based on positive reinforcement, the dog wants to come in and search

the samples and gets paid. He understands the scent of prostate

cancer means a reward. He gets a sound and food. Is there a certain

number or a person percentage of times that if a dog isn't getting it

right, you say, do you know what, I can't use that dog? What is that

like? When we are looking at the development of the dog, we're

looking at reliability of 85%, 90%, we need to make sure the dog is

operating at that level. I heard these remarkable stories, stories...

As Chief Executive of the charity Medical Detection Dogs, Dr Clare

Guest is a leading figure in driving this research forward. In fact, her

interest in this area began after she was alerted by her own dog to a

potentially life threatening condition. One of my dogs, Daisy,

she is a bladder cancer detection dog started behaving differently

around me. She started giving me a worried look and started nudging at

my chest, it led me to investigate and I found a lump. I went to the

doctor's and was referred and to cut a long story short, I was diagnosed

with a very early stage breast cancer. I was fascinated by Clare's

story, but I wanted to be sure that the research being under taken by

Clare's team was meeting the highest scientific standards. How reliable

do you think the science is? How robust are you? So this is really,

really rigorous work. We don't know exactly what it is the dogs use to

make the identification that cancer is there, but we know it is a

volatile, we know it is a smell. In fact, studies published in France,

Italy and elsewhere have confirmed the extraordinary potential of dogs

to assist with the diagnosis of disease in human beings and Clare's

team is working on one of the largest studies to date. We're doing

an incredibly robust clinical trial. We've got 3,000 patients involved in

this next trial detecting prostate cancer from urine. Over the next few

years we'll fund the results and the ability of the dogs to do this over

a large sample patient size. What do you say to the clinicians who say,

that's very nice and all very well, but we can't have dogs running

around in GPs surgeries, you know, just sniffing everybody, that's

ludicrous and the other thing they say is, this is a matter of life and

death. You can't have dogs involved in life and death, it is too

serious. How do you get through that barrier in a sense of praej tis, how

do you get through that and show them this is pure science? Well,

there is a number of ways. Firstly, the dog doesn't have to be in the

hospital sniffing around the patient. The samples come to the dog

in the training facility and the dog give their answer and the result

goes back to the clinician. The dog is a highly sophisticated biosensor.

Evolution has given him this highly sensitive nose. We're talking about

a science here, we're not talking about fluffy dogs. The other thing

is, that I'd say to you as well, you rely on dogs every day when you go

into the House of Commons. You rely on the dogs to ensure your safety.

People board planes every day that have been screened by detector dogs

to see if there is explosives on board. That's a life and death

decision. Why do we rely on them and not with health? How much support

has the Government been giving you and where do you think the future

lies? To date we have no support from the Government. And you think

this could literally save lives? Absolutely. I know this can save

lives. It saved my life and that inspired me to keep going. I am a

scientist and I love the scientist. We are talking about a robust study

and the ability of a biosensor to detect a disease. . Like Clare, my

interest in this research is more than academic. It's personal. The

doctor thought the lump had been there more about 18 months. My wife

Betsy has had breast cancer. In many respects I was lucky and my

children, my youngest was 16, but when I was so ill I remember

thinking how would I have managed if my children had, if it had been ten

years earlier and my children were little? I was written off. I was

very, very ill as you remember. I couldn't look after myself. I

couldn't do anything for myself. The sooner you can detect cancer the

better. The sooner you can detect all diseases the better. But this

re-McAble ability has implications for more than just the detection of

cancer. Dogs cab trained to alert patients with conditions such as

type one diabetes to a minute shift in Nair blood sugar levels which

might, in extreme cases, signal the onset of a coma. The dogs are able

to detect when a patient might be in danger and fetch any vital medical

supplies. He has got it now. He's going round and round. I went to

visit Steve and Molly. Steve was diagnosed with type one diabetes in

2006. It is no exaggeration to say having Molly at his side has been

life changing for Steve and his family. Halfs life like for both of

you before Molly arrived? Where were the big problems, how difficult was

all of this? Well, when Stephen was little, we would have him just

running around and then falling over. We would be scooping him up

and putting him on the sofa and trying to get things into him. I had

gone in the night and he had scezures, we were testing all night,

every night. So you were getting up through the night. Setting alarms.

We did that until Molly came along and suddenly when we realised we

could trust her, that's when we stopped and now I only get up when

she alerts. She comes and sits at football, doesn't she? She alerts

from the sidelines of the football pitch. I used to have to call

Stephen off and keep testing him and sometimes he had gone so low he was

tripping over the ball so he'd have to have glucose and sit out for 20

minutes. Shoal know in an open football pitch and she will alert

and you will know that she is alerting that your son, who is busy

about to score a goal, has to come off the pitch to get himself sorted

out? Yes. Is that right? That's remarkable. She has got permission

from the club referees to be let loose on the pitch with her coat on.

Molly is capable of detecting at any stage out in the fields, in the

garden, on the playing pitch, if you're upstairs and she is is

downstairs, she will get agitated. Yes. Clare is a beneficiary of her

dog's ability to detect shifts in blood glucose levels that might

indicate she is is in danger. In In the three-and-a-half years we have

been together he has aall righted and saved my life over 3500 times.

He does it all for a dog biscuit and often leaves me emotional after all

this time because I know without him, I wouldn't be alive today. I

actually work as a children's diabetes nurse. My job is to help

care, support, and educate children and families that have got type one

diabetes. So having Magic means I can carry on my job. Without him I

would be testing my blood glow can yous level every 20 or 30 minutes to

try and pre-empt what was going to happen. With Magic I don't have to

do that which means I can carry on doing my job, but I'm being safe

with patients and I'm not likely to collapse when I'm in the middle of a

consultation with them, which is not only embarrassing for me, but it is

giving the wrong message to patients that you can still live life to the

full even though you've got diabetes. So this Magic telling me

he wants me to do a blood glucose test. I will ask Magic to fetch my

kit. Fetch kit. Good boy. And then I'll check my blood sugar to see

what is going on. Good boy, Magic. And the blood glucose is 5.5 so his

target is 4.7. So he's telling me that in the next 20, 30 minutes he

thinks my blood glucose level will be too low. Magic sleeps by my bed

so he is always close by me, but he can detect a change in my blood

glucose level even when I'm upstairs and he's downstairs, but he sleeps

by my bed and he will wake up overnight and tell me to test.

Before I got Magic I would be up every hour, day and night, trying to

check my blood glucose level and trying to pre-empt when the episodes

would happen. That meant I was exhausted, many a time I would be

too afraid to go to sleep in case I had an episode and wouldn't wake up

from them. Other times I would be too exhausted I didn't care if I was

going to die. I wanted to close my eyes and get sleep. What Magic

allowed me to do is to go to bed and not be afraid that I'm never going

to wake up. I'm going to go to bed and my husband doesn't have to worry

that when he wakes up, I won't be dead next to him. Simple things like

that, it is very difficult to put into words, but that's what having

Magic means is I can have an ordinary life and do ordinary things

and I've got an amazing companion that's going to follow me all the

way through it. I have been so impressed with the progress made in

in field that I wanted to find out why its potential hasn't been

properly recognised and why it isn't receiving the funding it deserves. I

went to see the Health Secretary for England, Jeremy Hunt. I started by

asking why it was that the Health Service hasn't so far got behind

this incredibly promising work? I think probably ideas like this

sometimes don't get looked at as quickly as they should because they

get put in the quackery box when actually what we're doing now, what

you're doing is saying well, let's look at the science. Let's actually

see whether these new ways of doing things are scientifically valid and

sometimes when you do that, you get a surprise. From 2004, this work has

been peer reviewed and been available and published and actually

a lot of doctors involved in cancer treatment, have been absolutely

certain there is something rather unique and special about what has

been going on. It has been the devil's own business to get medical

professionals on a wider scale to say let's have a look at this. Do

you think this says something about the resistance to investment and

invowation at times that comes from the medical profession within the

NHS? I wouldn't characterise the NHS as not being innovative, but

sometimes nonetheless, when you have something that's so unorthodox as

this, I mean, I can imagine that lots of doctors heart would miss a

beat at the thought of using a dog to help detect cancer, but as

doctors and scientists, they need to look at the evidence. So instead of

it being dogs, I was able to say to you or to anyone from the medical

profession, what we have here is a laboratory that detects cancer

earlier and more accurately than any of the existing medical tests, what

do you think would be the natural reaction to that without the word

dogs in it? Well, of course, it's the dogs bit that, I think, as I

say, probably causes one or two people's heart rates to miss a beat

or two. But I will look at the results of this research when it

comes through. One of our jobs as MPs is sometimes to question

orthodoxes and look at different ways of doing things that possibly

the establishment has swept under the carpet or not wanted to look at.

So if this research is good then I want to know about it and I will

certainly look at it carefully. The work of our pioneering researchers

in this field doesn't just have the potential to save lives, but also to

save our NHS many millions of pounds if it's properly funded. We need to

recognise that we can still reimagine our century's old

relationship with dogs and find new ways to make use of their absolutely

extraordinary abilities. You have been telling us what you

think. This view tweets, with no hint of irony, Victoria has Iain

Duncan Smith reporting on dogs detecting cancer. This view says, my

dog started to display unusual behaviour. Wouldn't stay in the same

room as me and became anxious. When I saw a specialist I had a tumour on

one of my kidneys which had been missed by my GP.

After ten o'clock Iain Duncan Smith will be here and we will be meeting

one of the life-saving dogs. Keep your comments coming in.

Still to come, police are launching an unprecedented appeal

at the Supreme Court against a ruling that it failed

victims of one of the UK's most dangerous rapists.

And the singer Adele has found a novel way of getting

to the stage in a box designed for transporting musical equipment.

Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

MPs are due to debate changes to the Brexit bill

It comes after the House of Lords voted in favour of amendments

which would guarantee the rights of EU citizens living

in the UK, and would give parliament a "meaningful" say

If MPs and peers do pass the bill today, Theresa May could start

the process of the UK leaving the European Union this week.

A British man has been jailed for six years in Indonesia,

over the killing of a policeman on the island of Bali.

David Taylor had admitted his role in the crime, saying he feared

for his life during a fight with the police officer,

who was attacked with a beer bottle and his own binoculars.

his partner Sarah Connor has been sentenced to four years as an

accessory to the crime. Rail staff from three firms

across England have started 24-hour strikes in a dispute over

the role of guards. The RMT's 30th strike day

in its dispute with Southern over plans for driver-only-operated

trains, has spread to Guards and drivers working for

Merseyrail and Northern are taking Rail bosses argue it's

about modernising services Police are launching

an unprecedented appeal at the Supreme Court

against a ruling it failed the victims of one of the UK's

most dangerous rapists. Judges said Scotland Yard had

breached the human rights of two women because officers didn't

properly investigate John Worboys who was jailed for life in 2009

after committing more The outcome of the case

could have profound legal Aid agencies are warning that time

is running out to save an estimated 20 million people facing famine

in four African countries. There's growing concern

about four countries in particular, Nigeria,

South Sudan, Yemen and Somalia. It's been described as the worst

humanitarian crisis in 60 years and experts say that without urgent

help many will simply starve. That's a summary of

the latest BBC News. Here's some sport now

with the other Hugh! The FA Cup fairy tales are over as

Spurs ensure the semifinalists will come from the Premier League.

Celtic need only six more points to win the Scottish Premiership again

but they were denied a 23rd consecutive league win by Rangers -

a late Clint Hill equaliser gave them a 1-1 draw.

Derby County have sacked Steve McClaren for a second time...

Just five months after he rejoined the club.

Derby are tenth in the Championship - they've won only once

There are no British players left in the singles

draw at the Indian Wells tennis in California.

Women's number one, Johanna Konta, was knocked out in the third

round by Caroline Garcia of France, and Dan Evans and Kyle

John Worboys is one of Britain's most dangeorus rapists.

He's serving a life sentence for carrying out more than 100

rapes and sexual assaults while he was a black

Over a period of six years between 2002 and 2008,

he'd drug his victims, female passengers in his taxi,

by pretending he'd won on the lottery, persuading them

to "celebrate" with a glass of doped champagne.

The Metropolitan Police had several opportunities

to apprehend and stop him, and didn't.

On one occasion Worboys was so confident of getting

away with his crimes, that he actually drove his victim

to a police station and dropped her off there,

officers took neither his name nor his cab registration details.

Here's how the story was reported at the time.

In his familiar and licensed black cab, they should have been safe,

but John Warboys is convicted of drugging, sexually molesting

or raping dozens, possibly even hundreds, of women

While those offences are being investigated by the police,

and there are serious questions being asked about their inquiry

and whether he could have been caught sooner, tonight he stands

convicted of 19 counts dating back to October 2006.

Sources say in the 13 years he drove this black cab,

John Warboys may have attacked more than 200 women.

While he now faces a lengthy prison sentence, the IPCC wants to know

why, having arrested him once, the police allowed him and his taxi

Their failings led two women to sue the police

for breaching their human rights, and judges agreed.

Today the Met Police are trying to challenge that ruling

in the highest court in the land, the Supreme Court.

Today's appeal could have profound implications for how police

investigate serious sexual offences and means they could be sued

for the most serious of crimes that amount to inhuman or degrading

treatment if they fail to conduct an effective investigation.

The case is so important to the law around police

negligence that Theresa May, when she was still Home

Secretary, intervened to support Scotland Yard.

Let's speak to her knee, only using her first name. We are not showing

her face to protect her identity. she was raped by two strangers two

years ago when she 18. She thinks police should be held

accountable if they fail Hamish Brown, a former

Met Dectective inspector, who was with the Met at the time

Worboys committed his early crimes. Harriet Wistrich , the solicitor

for the two women who sued the Met. Harriet, your clients are arguing,

had the police investigated properly, John Worboys would have

been caught earlier and they would not have been raped, is that right?

Those are the facts of the case. There were a number of

opportunities, about ten women came forward at different times before he

was eventually arrested and prosecuted. And had they conducted

an effective investigation, there were a whole series of failings at

every stage along the route, but the judge found at the High Court. Then

he wouldn't have gone on to rape so many women. The police have

acknowledged their errors and apologised and they have put in

place things to improve the way they deal with this. You don't believe

that? The problem is, there were some good policies in place at the

time. There was a policy about how to prosecute, how to investigate

drug assisted rape. That policy was not followed by the officers on the

ground. There isn't an answer to save the police constantly say, we

have changed, we have put in place better procedures. This wouldn't

happen again. But they said that at the time and it did happen. The

problem is, the officers on the ground were not necessarily

enforcing these policies and following them properly. In fact, at

the trial, an inspector said in evidence, when asked if the policies

were there and they didn't follow it, he said, I don't know, and that

came under criticism. You have to put those policies in place and you

have to have officers on the ground who are trained and realise it is

important to follow them. It didn't happen in this case. The Met want to

make it clear, by defending this action, they are not doubting the

voracity of the claimants' accounts. What they yell saying it is the

boundaries of police responsibility and liability. If the Court upholds

the ruling, the police could be sued if they are deemed to have failed to

conduct a proper investigation. Why would that be a good thing? They

should be held to an account. Where they fell, they should be held to

account. This is a mechanism for victims to hold the state body to

account. We can hold all other state organisations, doctors, social

services and we hold all sorts of people to account through common law

as long as through the human rights frameworks. Why are the police

accepted and if they continue to fail even where the framework and

the policies are in place, and this is a mechanism which enables another

mechanism to say, you cannot carry on doing this and put in place, not

just policies, but measures to make those policies work. Honey, thanks

for talking to others, you were raped two years ago by strangers. In

your case, the police were incredibly supportive and two men

were convicted last year. But you were nervous about reporting it

initially? I don't know why, we cannot hear you. Maybe we will

reconnect the line. In the meantime, let's bring in Hamish Brown, former

Met policeman and Chris. Some of the 's mistakes made, one believable.

John Worboys dotting of one of his victims at a police station and

offers is not taking his name or cab registration details. Had they done

that, they might have caught him earlier? Regrettably, everything is

true and I go along with everything Harriet said. But I think the police

are concerned about the floodgates, at one stage I going to stop whether

police have made a mistake. Let's take the case of a burglary. It is

not investigated properly for whatever reason and that burglar

goes on to commit another hundred crimes. It affects people taking

their personal things, or that people going to come forward and sue

the police? Or, investigate the case properly? Yes, in times of cuts, the

Metropolitan Police have just lost 700 detectives because of one reason

or another. Maybe it is not unattractive job any more. Will this

work and will the police go out of business? Why should the police be

in a different position, why should there be an exception when NHS

surgeons can be sued, teachers can be sued. I would agree in the most

serious of cases, they should be. I am not against that. Where the

caution is is opening the flood gates and where should the line be

drawn. Harriet is wanting to come back in. Can I make a point. Can you

hear me OK? Just to be clear, burglary would not come within this

sort of case. It has to be a breach of article three, which is inhumane

and degrading treatment. It is not every crime the police investigate,

it affects the most serious crimes as Hamish said. It isn't any

failure, it has to be serious failures in the best a geisha in. To

suggest it will open the floodgates and every time a police officer

investigate something and they mess up, they will be sued, is not

correct. It is designed only in relation to those very serious cases

and you are talking about really serious crimes, you know, not short

of having huge impacts on victims, that we are having this safeguard

in. It is not just one minor mistake, it has to be a serious

failure. Thank you for clarifying that. We will try and talk to honey

again, I hope we can hear you. Tell us about your apprehension

before you reported to the police? I was just really nervous that I

wouldn't be taken seriously and that people would sort of, they would be

suspicious and wouldn't believe me. And actually, the police treated you

incredibly well and were incredibly supportive and did their job

properly? They were just professional the whole way through,

you know, it was just amazing. So when people say, "I'm not sure if

the police are going to believe me." They didn't express an opinion in

your case, they just investigated? They were 100% behind me. They never

said you're right or you're wrong, but they investigated it as they

should with any crime. What do you think of this legal case that could

lead to the police being sued if they fail to investigate a serious

crime properly? If there are serious failings and if the crime involved

degrading treatment? I do think that the police being sued would be

important because with this type of crime it's so important that women

are supported and anyone supported when they report abuse or sexual

violence. If the police are failing to not take people seriously and

also be professional in their job then yeah, they should be taken to

court and they should be sued for it. Thank you very much. Rachel,

Chris, why are you supporting the two women who are taking the case?

We've intervened because it is really important that women have the

ability to challenge the police, to hold them to account. Very few rapes

get reported, about 15% we think of rapes get reported to the police and

in part that's because women are concerned that they won't be

believed or they won't be taken seriously and when that happens, we

really need to be able to challenge the police who are not following

their policies and not following their procedures properly. So it is

important to us. Do you accept that since the John Warboys case police

have made progress? There has been progress, but the progress is patchy

and we still hear from women who still get disbelieved and whose

cases are not taken certificate lussy and evidence not being

followed up. Human Rights see this crime as discrimination against

women. It is extremely serious sexual violence as a crime. It's

really important that the Human Rights that we've got work in

practise so they are not just on paper, it is not enough to have that

human right, you have to be able to have it when the State does

something wrong and gets it so catastrophically wrong that more

women are raped you have to be able to hold them to account for that.

Honey, are you still with us? No, I think she has gone. I'm going

to ask Harriet about the comments from the female judge last week that

drunk women are putting themselves at greater risk of rape. Saying

women were entitled to drink themselves into the ground, but

their behaviour could put them in danger. Is she right? I think the

reason this has caused a lot of controversy is because, you know,

it's a sense of women being blamed again for getting raped and the

concern is that men and in fact, it is interesting because Warboys

deliberately targeted women coming out of nightclubs late at night

often who would have had a few drinks. The issue is about

identifying those men who target women who are vulnerable and I think

it's not necessarily very helpful to focus in that way, but it's true and

I think we need to look at the ways in which vulnerability is targeted.

It is drink. It maybe people who have mental illness or learning

disability or who are very young. There are all different sorts of

ways in which women are targeted and the challenge is really to try and

challenge those men who are targeting the women rather than to

blame women for their behaviour. A final thought from Hamish. I'm sure

the judge meant very well and I'm sor the interpretation that's been

put on it, but I hear what Harriet says as well. Look, there is a lot

of good work in the Metropolitan Police and police forces around the

country on rape and serious sexual offences, progress has been made

from the 60s, 70s and 80s when it all went wrong of the mistakes will

be made. The police will be punished, but there is a shortage of

police officers. It's going to be difficult to go forward, but I hope

the police will learn from this and we all move on. Thank you.

Thank you. We will report back what happens in the Supreme Court.

Thank you for your comments on the film that Iain Duncan Smith made

which we showed earlier about cancer detecting dogs. Specially trained

dogs. This e-mail from John, "Remarkable film that should be sent

to all medical practises." Harry says, "Fantastic. A new way of

looking at things." LJ, "A great story on what could be a

breakthrough detected by man's best friend." This from Duncan, "IDS

trying to convince people he has a compassionate bone in his body. He

hasn't folks." After 10am, we will talk this this lady and her dog. She

has type one diabetes and her dog helps her out when her blood sugar

levels change. That's Caroline and Simba, so we'll hear her experience

after 10am. Also, we'll bring you the latest on Brexit.

As parliament considers the final stage of the law

that will allow the UK to begin divorce proceedings

The Queen is launching the Commonwealth Games Baton relay

Over 388 days the baton will visit all 71 Commonwealth

countries, before arriving at the Australian Gold Coast

Our correspondent Katherine Downs is at Buckingham Palace.

Hello Victoria. A lot of numbers to remember in this one. All kinds of

stats. This is the longest Commonwealth Games baton in history.

388 days, 230,000 miles it will travel around the world before it

ends up on the gold coast in Australia for the Commonwealth Games

which start in April. So just over a year to go in Australia next year. I

don't know if you can hear behind me, they're testing the public

announcement system. The crowds are beginning to gather in front of

Buckingham Palace where the ceremony will start later on this morning. It

is the beginning really of the countdown to the Commonwealth Games

and what will happen is that the Queen will come out on to that

platform behind me here. She will put a message of hope and friendship

into the Commonwealth Games baton that will invite athletes from

around the Commonwealth to come together in peaceful and friendly

competition in Australia next year and what she'll do, she will hand

the baton to the first baton runner who is Anna Mears, the most

decorated female cyclist in history, five times Commonwealth Games Gold

Medallist. She has to run 20 meters across the fore court of Buckingham

Palace to the big gate in the centre and she will hand the baton then to

her long time rival Victoria Pendleton. Anna Mears pipped

Victoria Pendleton. Now they've retired the rivalry is water under

the bridge! Victoria Pendleton will run around the Queen Victoria

Memorial and send the baton off. The baton has arrived with the designers

from Design Works. Here is the baton. This is it. I have never seen

a baton that sums up Australia. Talk us through the design. It was to

represent the gold coast very well. There is lots of things of the shape

itself is all about boundless energy of the people, place, and spirit of

the coast. So that's what the loop is all about. Then on the side, we

split it up into three different sectors, that represents, the past,

the present and the future. The back of the baton is made from a wood, it

is a tree that's indigenous to the gold coast. It is an important story

from the indigenous people of the gold coast. They would take seeds

and plant them along the paths that they walked to provide suss ten nans

for the future. The guest of honour is arriving behind us. I don't know

if you can see that. That's the Queen and her outriders arriving for

the Olympic, sorry Commonwealth baton ceremony, going around the

Queen Victoria Memorial and she will be heading into Buckingham Palace

where she will be meeting elders from the gold cos and coast. That

represents the past. We have a stringer on the side which is the

stainless part. The stringer has engaved all the nations that will

see the baton as it goes through its journey. They are in the order of

the relay. The front here is reclaimed plastic. So we collected

plastic from the ocean, beaches and waterways of the gold coast. It is

quite clean. We had a lot of people helping us. Community groups and the

gold coast City Council. We reclaimed that and reconstituted it

into the leading edge. Where does this message go? I thought she was

putting it in the baton, but it looks hollow? There is this little

part. A capsule will get dropped in. And then the message is inside the

capsule. It is on some really special paper. The paper is made

using a special paper that has really strong properties using the

nano particles. How many batons are there? Is this just the only baton

that will be going around the Commonwealth or are there loads in

case one gets lost or dropped in the sea? We have to have a back-up. But

there is one baton with the message and it will go around the

Commonwealth and of course, there is back-up. How important do you think

it is that there is a baton like this that goes around the

Commonwealth and kind of unites people and invites the athletes to

take part in the Games? When you have the pictures of past baton

relays, the Glasgow one and the kids in South Africa or the Caribbean,

just the excitement that it brings. We're trying to include, ignite and

inspire and I think that's what this really does. Well, thank you for

bringing it along to show us this morning. It is a beautiful piece of

artwork and the first time we have been up close to a Commonwealth

Games baton. So that's it. That's the baton that will be taking its

centre stage really at the ceremony this morning before heading off on

that enormous 388 day journey to the gold coast. The Commonwealth Games

next year kicks off on 4th April and you will be able to watch that baton

set-up on its baton journey on the BBC News Channel this morning. Thank

you. Thank you for your e-mails about

dogs. Sean on Facebook, "Fantastic and interesting film about

biomarking. As the scientist says there is no funding from the UK

Government in this area." We will talk more about this after 10. We

will talk to Cancer Research UK who are sceptical. The latest news and

sport in a moment. Before that, the weather. Look at you! What a bright,

shining deliciousness you are on this Monday morning!

We're in the mood for spring. There is some cloud around. But we have

seen some amazing sunrises this morning. We have got BBC Weather

Watcher pictures to show you what it was like. If we look at what's

happening around the country. First of all, we have got this beautiful

one from Saltburn and another one, another beautiful sunrise from

Suffolk. And then as we travel around the country, you can see in

Cardiff, a little bit more in the way of frost. It was a nippy start

for you. But beautiful blue skies in Hampshire. Again, lovely, lovely

weather out there if you like it sunny. You can see on the satellite

picture where we have the clear skies, this area here is actually a

weather front. The weather front moved across Northern Ireland and

Scotland last night and it raised temperatures overnight, but it is

still producing a fair bit of cloud and the odd spot of rain, nothing

too much. As it sink southwards and bumps into the high pressure, it

will be a fairly weak affair. So as we go through the morning, a lot of

sunshine in the south. Some sunshine in Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Behind this weather front. The weather front continues to drift

across the rest of Northern England and in through Wales and the

south-west. Quite murky conditions around the coast with sea fog as

well in the south-west. But by then Northern Ireland will be busking in

sunshine. Highs of 13 Celsius in Belfast. Across much of Scotland

too, a lot of sunshine, but rain starting to come in across the

north-west, breezy across the north of Scotland as well. As we move down

towards the north of England, here under the influence of the weather

front it will be fairly cloudy, but the very far north of Northern

England improving and that cloud prevails towards the Midlands and

the Wash, but for East Anglia, Essex and Kent and the Isle of Wight and

Dorset, we are looking at some blue skies into the afternoon. For

south-west England though, under that weather front, cloudier. Again,

there is murkiness around the coast and for parts of Wales, again cloudy

this afternoon under that weather front. It gets down to the

south-east with all its cloud. Some brighter breaks behind, but then

another weather front comes in across Northern Ireland and Scotland

with rain and strengthening winds. The rain turning more showery

through the course of the night. Tomorrow we start off with showers

across the north of Scotland. Some of those will be wintry and

accompanied by gusts of wind 60mph to 70mph. As we come south, murky

around Cardigan Bay and Pembrokeshire and around the Bristol

Channel area. Inland if you're in the sunshine, temperatures 12 to 15

Celsius. But somewhere tomorrow in the south-eastern quarter of the UK

we could hit 17 Celsius or 18 Celsius in the south-east. The

average at this time in March is 11 Celsius.

Hello, it's Monday, it's 10am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

After the news we'll have more on our top story -

Former Minister Iain Duncan Smith will be here to tell us what these

Imagine one teaspoonful of sugar dissolved, not just in one Olympic

sized swimming pool, but in two Olympic sized swimming

The dogs can also help people with diabetes tell

when their blood sugar is low, and having one can be a life

I had gone in in the night and he had

so we were testing every hour-and-a-half every

So you were getting up through the night?

We'll bring you the latest on Brexit, later today the bill to

allow divorce proceedings to begin is expected to be

At Westminster, Tory MPs and peers are ready to back down paving the

way for Theresa May to trigger our departure from the EU.

And if you were a superstar singer, how would you get

Adele has developed an interesting technique,

Joanna is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

The legislation paving the way for Theresa May to start formal

Brexit negotiations faces its final test in parliament today.

Ministers believe MPs will reject the two changes made

to the Brexit Bill in the House of Lords , one guaranteeing

to the Brexit Bill in the House of Lords, one guaranteeing

the rights of EU nationals living in Britain and another calling

for parliament to have a "meaningful" vote on the final deal.

If MPs and peers do pass the bill today, Theresa May could start

the process of the UK leaving the European Union this week.

A British man has been jailed for six years in Indonesia,

over the killing of a policeman on the island of Bali.

David Taylor had admitted his role in the crime, saying he feared

for his life during a fight with the police officer,

who was attacked with a beer bottle and his own binoculars.

His partner Sara Connor has been sentenced to four years

Energy supplier SSE says it will increase standard domestic

electricity prices from the end of next month.

It would result in an average 6.9% rise for a typical

The company said it would keep gas prices at their current level

but electricity prices would rise by an average 14.9%.

Police are launching an appeal at the Supreme Court

against a ruling that it failed the victims of one of the UK's

Judges said Scotland Yard had breached the human rights of two

women because officers didn't properly investigate John Worboys

who was jailed for life in 2009 after committing more than 100 rapes

The outcome of the case could have profound legal

Hamish Brown is a former Detective inspector,

who was with the Met at the time Worboys committed his early crimes,

The police are now worried about opening the floodgates at a time

when forces are facing cuts. At what stage will you stop when it

is a mistake? What about burglary? What if the case wasn't investigated

properly and the burglar goes on to commit another 100 crimes. Is it

that kind of crime where victims will come forward and sue the

police? Or investigate the case properly. Yes, at a time when the

police have just had 700 job cuts, maybe it isn't an attractive job any

more. Rail staff from three firms

across England have started 24-hour strikes in a dispute over

the role of guards. The RMT's 30th strike day

in its dispute with Southern over plans for driver-only-operated

trains, has spread to Guards and drivers working for

Merseyrail and Northern are taking Rail bosses argue it's

about modernising services Aid agencies are warning that time

is running out to save an estimated 20 million people facing

famine in Africa. There's growing concern

about four countries in particular: Nigeria,

South Sudan, Yemen and Somalia. It's been described as the worst

humanitarian crisis in 60 years and experts say that without urgent

help many will simply starve. That's a summary of the latest BBC

News, more at 10.30. Samantha has message on Facebook. I

have a medical detection dog called Charlie who detects and Norton make

condition which causes me to black out and hurt myself. Charlie has

transformed my life, I am safe and no longer scared to leave my home.

Since having Charlie, the charity have managed two more to people with

the same condition who continued to alert. Charlie walk me down the

aisle at my wedding. Without Charlie I may have ended up in hospital on

my wedding day. Thanks for letting us know about that, Samantha. We

will talk more about dogs able to wander owners in changes in their

medical condition and dogs who can detect cancer as well.

Do get in touch with us throughout the morning,

use the hashtag Victoria live and If you text, you will be charged

Spurs ensured the FA Cup semi finals will be an all Premier League affair

after beating League one Millwall 6-0 in the last

South Korean Son-Hueng Min scored a hat-trick after top scorer

Harry Kane was forced off with what looked like

They joined Manchester City and Arsenal in the last four.

We are really pleased, very happy. And now we need to prepare this week

for the Premier League game against Southampton. Please, very happy. It

was fantastic. Meanwhile the Football Association

is to investigate allegations Millwall supporters directed

what appeared to be racist chants at Son Heung-min during the match

at White Hart Lane. They'll wait for the

referee's match report. And also ask for the observations

of both clubs and the police before Millwall are also under

investigation for the behaviour of some of their fans

in the previous round. So the last of the quarter finals,

Chelsea against Manchester United, is live on BBC One,

coverage starts at 7.30. There's also commentary on radio

Five Live and coverage In the Premier League, Jurgen Klopp

says he saw his Liverpool team win And was pretty

relieved about it too. They came from behind

to beat Burnley 2-1, Liverpool are fourth in the table

just a point now behind Spurs, Managing Derby County seems to be

something of a tricky challenge, Steve McClaren has been sacked

for a second time, only five months Derby are tenth in the Championship

after winning only one And they say there had

been a "significant, unexpected and persistent decline

in results, team unity and morale". Celtic are now just two

wins away from another Scottish Premiership title,

but they were prevented from a 23rd straight league victory

by their Old Firm rivals. They were held to a 1-1 draw

at Celtic Park after a late So Celtic are just the 25

points clear of Aberdeen There are no British

players left in the singles draw at the Indian Wells

tennis in California. Women's number one, Johanna Konta,

said she wasn't "brave enough", after losing in three sets

to Caroline Garcia of France. A few years ago, Andy Murray

predicted that Garcia would make it She's currently ranked 25th,

14 places lower than Konta. Also out both remaining men,

Kyle Edmund lost in straight While British number two Dan Evans

was beaten by Kei Nishikori, And Judd Trump says he's

hitting form at the right time, ahead of snooker's

World Championship next month. He came from 5-2 down to beat

Marco Fu 10-8 in the final of the Players Championship

in Llandudno, that's Trump's second That is it for now, much more coming

up in the headlines at 10:30 a.m.. Good morning, welcome to the

programme. This morning, we've been telling

you about a pioneering trial which has the potential

to save lives and save the NHS But is there a reluctance

amongst some in the medical community to adopt it

because it involves dogs? Initial studies show specially

trained dogs can detect prostate In an exclusive film for this

programme, the former Conservative party leader Iain Duncan Smith tells

us he wants to see it England's Health Secretary Jeremy

Hunt has promised he will personally take a look at the results

of an initial trial. We played you Iain Duncan Smith's

full film earlier in the programme. I'm the Member of Parliament

for Chingford and Woodford Green. I used to be a member

of the Cabinet but I'm not I'm here to talk about something

much, much more interesting. Dogs like these are capable

of detecting the tiniest I mean up to one part

per trillion, maybe even more. That means that once properly

trained they are able to detect odours associated with disease

in human beings. In other words, these dogs

are capable of literally In this test, a specially trained

cancer detection dog is told to circle a carousel holding eight

evenly spaced urine samples. One is from a patient with prostate

cancer and the other seven Remarkably the dog is able to detect

the sample from a cancer patient. Dr Claire Guest is a leading figure

in driving this research forward. We don't know exactly

what it is the dogs use to make the identification that the cancer

is there but we know it is We are doing an incredibly

robust clinical trial. We've got 3000 patients

who are going to be involved in this trial detecting prostate

cancer from urine. Dogs can also be trained to alert

patients with conditions such as type one diabetes to a minute

shift in their blood sugar levels which might in extreme cases signal

the onset of a coma. Steve was diagnosed with type

one diabetes in 2006. Before Molly arrived,

where were the big problems? When Stephen was little

we would have him running around We would be scooping him up

and putting him on the sofa I had gone in in the night and he'd

had seizures so we were testing every hour and a half to two hours

all night every single night. So you were getting

up through the night And we did that until Molly

came along and suddenly That's when we stopped and I now

only get up when she alerts. Claire is also a type one diabetic

and she is also a beneficiary of her dog's ability to detect

shifts in blood glucose levels that In the three and a half years

that we have been together, he has alerted and potentially

saved my life over 3500 times and he does it

all for a dog biscuit. What Magic has allowed me to do

is I can go to bed and not be afraid that I'm never going to wake up

in the morning, that I can have an ordinary life,

do ordinary things, and I've got an amazing companion

that's going to follow me I've been so impressed

by the progress that's been made in this field that I wanted to find

out why its potential hasn't been I went to see my old colleague,

the Health Secretary I think probably ideas like this

sometimes don't get looked at as quickly as they should

because they get put But if this research is good then

I want to know about it and I will certainly look

at it carefully. We need to recognise that we can

still reimagine our centuries-old relationship with dogs and find

new ways to make use of their absolutely

extraordinary abilities. So should the NHS get behind

cancer-detecting dogs? He became interested

in the issue after his wife, who had breast cancer,

became a trustee of the charity Claire Guest who is a research

scientist and co-founder of that Cancer expert Professor Karol Sikora

and Dr Emma Smith from Cancer There are many other ways

dogs can save people's Also with us Carolyn Gatenby

who is here with her dog Simba. He helps her to manage her type 1

diabetes and has saved her She will tell you all about that in

a moment. Welcome to all of you. We have had a huge response. People are

fascinated. Tell us how you became interested in the potential of these

dogs to do this? It was because, as the film so, my wife had quite late

detection of cancer. I still kick myself over the fact I hadn't

spotted what was going on. She went through all of the stuff everybody

has to do, the chemo, radiotherapy, mastectomy. All of these are very

traumatic for somebody. Coming out at the end of it, a couple of years

later, she has still been knocked back a bit and has less energy than

she used to have. Somebody mentioned there was this organisation and she

went to have a look at it and was bowled over by what they were doing.

If they are detecting earlier than most of the medical tests seem to

be, then why not try and find a way to get the medical side to use this

and to engage. That is what she went to do and eventually got so

involved, she has become part of the trust. It is remarkable, when you

get to see it, we have had the cancer specialist from the health

department go down, Skype Tickle. Bowled over after an hour and a

half. -- sceptical. The Health Secretary, had a poor brief from the

health Department. Walked out and he is going to ask why he didn't get a

better be. So my question is constantly, they are there, they are

showing the signs exist, showing your works, even whatever else we

want to do to take this forward, they are here, why can't we use this

now and get some funding from the various health agencies.

Is Simba all right? Yes. He is agreeing with me. A viewer tweets,

"A remarkable piece. Dogs are a man's best friend." A viewer said,

"I spent three years in hospital. She has alerted over 5,000 times and

kept me out of hospital." So Clare, the question, are the dogs really

detecting earlier than conventional tests? We have a long way to go in

term of working out how early they are able to diagnose the cancer.

Yes, the dog finds it easier the earlier the stage of the cancer.

That's because, we are using the dog's incredible sense of smell.

What we see is that every disease and condition in cancer has its own

biochemical changes which produce an odour change in our bodies. It is

like sitting next to someone with nice aftershave on. Now, we have

this big three year trial with 3,000 patients and we're looking at it not

only their reliability and accuracy, they are more reliable than the

current prostate cancer which is the PSA, the blood test which

unfortunately though it picks up cancer well, it has a high false

positive rate. That leads to unnecessary interventions? Yes and

unnecessary anxiety. The dog detects with a high level of accuracy

without that false positive read. That's what's going to be exciting.

Cancer volatiles travel from infected cells into the urine as the

body tries to dispose of the chemicals. It is thought the dogs

can pick up the odour of the volatiles. You say in prostate it is

93% accurate? That's what the training trials have shown and there

is a publication in Italy that showed it was 98% reliable from a

drop of urine. When a dog looks at a volatile pattern sorted with a

disease, the less it is going on in the body, the more strongly that

pattern stands out. That's why in early detections the dogs are very

good. The difference between someone who is healthy and someone with

cancer odour is very, very big. By the time that person becomes very

unwell, there is so much going on that the dog has to peer through the

disease and the conditions to see the volatiles. Professor, there is

not much you don't know about cancer, what do you think about it?

It is fascinating. I love dogs and I have one myself, but we have to get

away from the dog. The dog had evolutionary training to smell

something we don't understand. We have got to find out what it is and

develop a laboratory test. The trouble with using animals and when

I heard about this, Clare, I thought you'd come to the clinic and the dog

would round up the patients that have got cancer and shoe the others

out of the clinic. We have got to work out what the dog is detecting

and then make a laboratory test and that would be practical. We haven't

done that yet. I'm saying, we, I have got nothing to do with it?

Since 2004 there were in-roads, the interest has been reignited in the

detection of cancer through volatiles. The dog's sense of smell

sin credibly reliable and that's going to be the challenge. Emma

Smith Cancer Research UK, what's your view? I'm not sceptical about

the science behind it. There is good rational for looking for the smelly

molecules to get cancer diagnosed earlier. Like Carol said, there is

no way we could be using dogs as a routine diagnostic test. Why not?

350,000 people are diagnosed. Dogs need feeding and walking and they

need a rest and plus I would be interested to look at economics of

how much it would cost to keep the dogs and to have working dogs as

opposed to a test. You say you want to look for another way to do there,

but as you start looking for that right now, what has been

demonstrated categorically that it is possible for dogs to do this.

Now, you say there are lots of different people diagnosed with

cancerment even if the dogs save one life, this is quite important. You

say it's not practical. I challenge you to go to medical detection dogs

and figure out how practical it is to set-up different centres, call

them laboratories if you like, to detect cancer instead of saying no,

we're not going to do that, why don't you say, let's embrace this.

Let's help them and support them with finance and let's see where

this goes first of all with the dags and then extrapolate to see whether

or not in the future you can produce something else that replicates a

dog, but at moment you've got dogs and they're better than the medical

test. It is being embraced and that's why the research is on going

and Clare is doing her studies. We will take it to biotech companies

and develop a mechanical test. I think Emma is correct. It is

impracticable to have the dogs do it. And the biotech industry should

grab this. They don't think that because science is molecular. The

dog has it in his brain and his nose. Smelly molecules are not

something that has been researched. I don't understand why the medical

profession is so resistant to saying we can do these in parallel, you can

learn from one while we learn to diagnose cancer at the same time and

we can run a parallel process that says extragting from the wider sense

of what we're doing will learn more as the dogs do more with it rather

than saying it is all very well, we will have a look at this, but we put

our money and our thoughts in here. What we should do, in any other walk

of life everybody in science and engineering, they would be doing

parallel work. Use what you've got now, parallel that with testing. At

the moment you just want to do the bit on the electronic nose. We don't

use diagnostic tests until we have robust evidence that it works. You

can get robust evidence on this. We will have the situation where some

cases are missed and other people are getting a positive result when

actually they don't need fi nurt tests. What about the pH A test.

Every man will tell you, it is a horrible test... That's why it is

not a screening test. Why don't we think about that more and even

checking on the PSA test and run it past the dogs. There are issues with

the PSA test and I don't think anyone would recommend that as a

single test to determine whether a man has prostate cans are or not. So

a doctor will look at all the man's other symptoms and do a physical

examination and combine that with information from the PSA test. The

PSA test is not a diagnosis. Hundreds of people go to have that

second test I is painful and can lead to disease because they can't

focus on who has. Why not use the dogs? We never ever believed it was

dog or the dog took over. What we believe is the dog can assist the

cln i and the -- clinician and the point is if somebody has a raised

PSA, why not have a Ukraine test as well and that could be something we

could cover because the clinician has the PSA against a urine test but

the point that's been so frustrating for myself is that the amount of

money that's been invested into this work, we have been going ten years

now, we have had to raise money ourselves to do this work whereas

other organisations would have spent millions by now to get the answers

that we've got and that's the frustration. We have to

commercialise it and get the biotech industry involved. It is not

something that cancer charities can do. We have got to have peer review

publications and then we have to get away from the dog and that will

produce the future. Iain is sort of right. I'm seeing patients and the

dog comes out positive, what do we know? It is too varied yable,

different dogs, different diseases and we have got to get it

standardised. This is not standardisable. I want to bring in

Carolyn. Megan tweets, "A very interesting report on dogs helping

to diagnose cancer by smell." Another viewer says, "Dogs are

fantastic animals." ." Explain to our audience, you found out that

Simba was touble to detect changes in your medical condition, your type

one diabetes? That's right with no warning signals. I had got to the

end of my medical profession where they could actually offer me no more

really. The only thing they could offer me was a transplant, but the

side-effects was breast cancer and I had already been through that. So I

knew that I would end up in a nursing home because at that stage I

was needing help day and night. And so I actually went on to the

internet and found Medical Detection Dogs. And Clare came to assess Simba

to see if he was suitable and my goodness, within a week he was

actually alerting me. What does that involve? What does that mean? Tell

me who aren't aware of what Simba can do. Well, Simba is able to tell

me the change in my sugar levels in my blood. So he can alert me when my

sugars are going high. -My sugaring going low and when they are also

dropping quickly which I suffer from. So I can be quite at a high

rate, but within five or ten minutes I could be nearly in a coma. So

Simba actually gives me total quality of life. He would jump up at

you or... He has got quite a few different ways. The main one, he's

coming up to me and licking my face. You would get your kit out which you

carry? Frlghts it is teamwork. So when he alerts me, he expects me to

take my sugars. Right. He is not usually wrong. The I'm in the normal

change and he's chilled out. We can see that. Thank goodness you have

been in the normal range while you have been on the programme? That's

right. I'm unpredictable, he's there 24 hours a day. I'm getting quite

emotional because I believe solely, I've given my life to him because he

has given me such a good life. I've had, since he has been trained, I've

had six-and-a-half years of quality life. It isn't where I'm scared of

going out anymore, I'm living it to the fullest and I'm enjoying it.

Good. All I have to do is take Simba wherever I go. He doesn't stop

working when he has got his coat off. He is continually working. He's

not made to, but as soon as he sees the changes in, or smells the

changes, he will react. I know he's chilled. I don't know if we can see

him properly. Is it a bit mean if we ask him to stand up. Simba? Simba?

Come on. Oh, Simba, you are delicious!

Clare was taken to hospital three times a week before she had Simba.

She was at risk of going into a care home. There is ?13 million a year

spent on hypoglycemic events which could be prevented. I was falling

everywhere. I would walk to the shops and end up in a coma so

whenever I went out of the house, I never knew if I was going to make it

home, but more times than not, I would end up in an ambulance or at

the A So my life was very, very on a rocky, you know, place. Well,

he has transformed it and saved your life countless times. He is checking

her now to see if her sugars are right. This is him. So... So he has

just licked your face, do you need to check something? He sensed a

change in my odour. So if you don't mind, am I allowed to? We'll look

after her. Can you just explain what you're doing as you're doing it

because this is really instructive for everybody? Simba has alerted me

and so obviously he senses some change within me. In terms of your

blood sugar levels? Yes. So my responsibility now is to actually

take a test so I know if I'm dropping, I'm low. If I'm dropping

quickly, or if I'm going high. So then I can sort myself out. Is it

all right, you have just done that. You've clicked your finger. I've

wiped me finger. I've wiped everything off. Now I'm going to put

blood on my blood strip. OK. So then it will actually tell me what's

going on in my body. OK. And before I came in here, I were eight. I'm

now 6.9. Just show that to the camera.

What Simba is telling me is that I am on a quick drop. What will you

need to do? I will need to take Luke said an something to boost my sugars

back-up. If not, I walk into my coma, I don't have any signals. Then

it is a hospital job. He actually saves the National health thousands

and thousands of pounds because I wouldn't acknowledge I was going low

and then you would have to take me to hospital. That is extraordinary

to see that in action. Thank you, Simba. Iain Duncan Smith, going back

to the cancer detection, a number of viewers are criticising you in

trying to come over as cosy and cuddly because of your background as

Work and Pensions Secretary. You detract from the message, how do you

react to that? You will always get politicians on both sides of the

fence. But this isn't about politics, you have just seen this,

the ability of these dogs to detect cancer and sugar diabetic falls. It

is not about me, I am not the founder of this, Claire is. It is

not about my involvement, it is about me going to look at it. My

wife had breast cancer and like anybody else, once you see

something, you think it can be done better, you want to go and change it

and it is just about alerting people as to what is going on. Thank you

all for coming on the programme. We have breaking news to bring you...

Former Crewe Alexandra football coach Barry Bennell has been

remanded in custody charged with 12 child sex offences.

Our correspondent Katie Gornall is at South Cheshire

Victoria, Barry Bennell didn't appear in person, he appeared via

video link on Raman. We saw him on a TV screen in the corner of the court

room, he was wearing a blue jumper and sat with his arms crossed. Spoke

only to confirm his name and date of birth and understood the fresh 12

charges. These include for indecent assault charges relating to a boy

under 14 alleged to have taken place between 1981 and 1982 and eight

counts of child sex abuse relating to two boys under the age of 16,

alleged to have taken place between 1980 and 1987. Barry Bennell is a

former football coach with Crewe Alexander. He has now been remanded

into custody, as you say, where he will appear again on the 22nd of

March, faced with a total of 20 child sex abuse allegations. It

follows on from a recent court appearance where he pleaded not

guilty to similar offences. He will appear at Chester Crown Court on the

22nd of March facing 20 child sex abuse allegations. Thank you very

much. Still to come: Aid agencies are

warning time is running out to save 20 million people facing famine in

African countries. We will speak to people in each of the affected

nations who are working on the ground. And...

Still to come, what's the best way for a superstar singer to avoid

being distracted by adoring fans on the way to the stage?

Adele hides in a giant box. More later.

Joanna is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

MPs are due to debate changes to the Brexit bill

It comes after the House of Lords voted in favour of amendments

which would guarantee the rights of EU citizens living

in the UK, and would give parliament a "meaningful" say

If MPs and peers do pass the bill today, Theresa May could start

the process of the UK leaving the European Union this week.

A British man has been jailed for six years in Indonesia,

over the killing of a policeman on the island of Bali.

David Taylor had admitted his role in the crime, saying he feared

for his life during a fight with the police officer,

who was attacked with a beer bottle and his own binoculars.

His partner Sara Connor has been sentenced to four years

Rail staff from three firms across England have started 24-hour

strikes in a dispute over the role of guards.

The RMT's 30th strike day in its dispute with Southern over

plans for driver-only-operated trains, has spread to

Guards and drivers working for Merseyrail and Northern are taking

Rail bosses argue it's about modernising services

That's a summary of the latest news, join me for BBC

Spurs ensured the FA Cup semi finals will be an all Premier League affair

after beating League one Millwall 6-0 in the last

South Korean Son-Hueng Min scored a hat-trick after top scorer

Harry Kane was forced off with what looked like

They joined Manchester City and Arsenal in the last four.

Celtic are now just two wins away from another

Scottish Premiership title, but they were prevented from a 23rd

straight league victory by their Old Firm rivals.

They were held to a 1-1 draw at Celtic Park after a late

So Celtic are just the 25 points clear of Aberdeen

Managing Derby County seems to be something of a tricky challenge,

Steve McClaren has been sacked for a second time, only five months

Derby are tenth in the Championship after winning only one

Former Birmingham boss, Gary row it is the overwhelming favourite to

replace him. There are no British

players left in the singles draw at the Indian Wells

tennis in California. Women's number one, Johanna Konta,

said she wasn't "brave enough", after losing in three sets

to Caroline Garcia of France. A few years ago, Andy Murray

predicted that Garcia would make it She's currently ranked 25th,

14 places lower than Konta. Also out both remaining men,

Kyle Edmund lost in straight While British number two Dan Evans

was beaten by Kei Nishikori, The government is urging MPs

to reject the changes to the Brexit Bill which were made

by the Lords when it returns to be Our political guru

Norman Smith is here. How will it play out? Let me talk

you through the choreography of what will be a big and confusing day at

Westminster. The Brexit bill comes back to the Commons round about

3:30pm today. What we will get is a sort of Parliamentary ping-pong when

the bill shuttles back and forwards between the Commons and Lords.

Because when it first came to the House of Commons last month, it was

approved without any amendments at all. It went through with huge

majorities. It then went to the House of Lords, but the House of

Lords inflicted two defeats on the government. Won over guaranteeing

the rights of EU nationals and the one over guaranteeing Parliament and

meaningful vote. Now that Bill goes back to the Commons today. David

Davis, the Brexit secretary will open the debate and we are expecting

a vote around six o'clock. But the likelihood is, MPs will overturn

those two defeats. Then, the bill goes back to the House of Lords.

Round about ten o'clock, I think we will get the final vote in the House

of Lords. The thinking of most people is, the House of Lords will

back down, which means by the close of play today, Theresa May will

probably have her Brexit bill. The only question then, we are waiting

to see when will she trigger it, when will she "A set of leaving the

EU. She has got until the end of March, but she could go tomorrow.

The only person who does know is Theresa May and maybe her husband.

And anybody who says they do know, I am not sure they are telling the

truth. That speak to our guests. I am seeking Parliament will have a

meaningful and timely vote towards the end of the negotiation process.

It is important is our Parliament sees first, the final deal, if you

like, before it goes to the European Union. Hasn't Theresa May said you

will get some kind of vote? She has, but we need some clarity. The other

question to answer is what would happen if we don't get a deal at

all? That would mean we would be heading towards leaving the European

Union without any proper arrangements with 27 nation states

and the European Union as a whole. Do you expect to get an answer to

that today? I will be seeking an answer. David Davis, an effective

parliamentarian himself, will go some way, and I hope the whole way,

towards reassuring us that the Parliamentary sovereignty matters.

What do you think of your colleague, who might potentially vote against

the government the night? It is a pity if they do. You cannot stop

them of course, but this is a referendum authorised by the

sovereign act of Parliament, it passed the House of Commons and the

House of Lords by a massive majority. In the House of Commons,

by 544 and then we got in the business of the Supreme Court. The

bottom line is, we accepted of course, the House of Commons and the

House of Lords would need to have a bill to legislate, but simply form a

question. This is the main point, to notify the withdrawal process. It

wasn't to go into all begins an ounce, but it was to deal with the

simple question. That is what happened, with a massive majority,

499 to around 120 or something. I see in Neal and nodding his head,

because he knows it is the case. On the third reading, which took into

account the amendments which had already been discussed, which cover

these questions as well, Niall and others did vote. It is up to people

to make up their own minds, but the House of Lords has its own

functions, they had an opportunity to look at it. But the time has come

now, we don't want the Prime Minister's hands to betide. She

would find herself in extreme difficult circumstances, if there

was some arrangements as a result of these amendments, the effect of

which was to give leveraged to those who want to make it as difficult as

possible for her in the negotiations. Why do you think it is

right to attach conditions to this simple, short bill which is, simply

about triggering the process? I am not thinking we should be attaching

any conditions, because it is a short Bill anyway. It is about

process and not outcomes. If we were talking about outcomes, we would be

talking about all sorts of priorities we might have. What we

are talking about is process. It is about giving Parliament the ability

to comment on and decide upon aspects of the deal as it emerges.

And I think it is also important to note, it would be I think, sensible,

to have some sort of process to discuss the situation if we don't

get a deal. Because we have two years and just two years. Now is the

time to put down a marker that in about 18 months, or thereabouts, we

should have an opportunity to discuss what the actual process is.

What if there is no deal? The bottom line on that is, as David Davis said

yesterday, he has been discussing the whole question, if there is no

deal, what the outcome would be in terms of a planned. We had the

chairman of the foreign affairs select committee yesterday as well,

who discuss this. They said if there is no deal, they would hope there is

a plan. David Davis and the government have made it clear, there

is a plan. One of the problems in relation to negotiations before the

referendum, David Cameron and his government, didn't have a plan. It

is clear to us, Theresa May's government does have a plan. You

think so? Will they tell us what the plan is if there isn't a deal? You

have to conceive, it is not appropriate to go out and tell

people on the other side of the negotiating table, everything you

will be doing. It is part of the negotiations. I think basically

there will be a good discussion this afternoon. We want to come to the

end of this process and get royal assent and get on with it. That is

what people outside really want. Thank you both for coming on the

programme. Aid agencies are warning that time

is running out to save an estimated 20 million people facing famine

in four African countries. It has been described as the worst

humanitarian crisis in 60 years. This next film contains upsetting

images right from the beginning. This baby was four months