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Good morning. As you can see and hear, we are live at Westminster | :00:00. | :00:13. | |
this morning, the day after a man brought terror and chaos to the | :00:14. | :00:17. | |
heart of the capital city. After Brussels, after Paris and Istanbul, | :00:18. | :00:23. | |
after Berlin, it was inevitable, say some, this would happen again in | :00:24. | :00:29. | |
London. We are about 100 metres from the Palace of Westminster. This is | :00:30. | :00:34. | |
the House of Lords end and beyond that the House of Commons and over | :00:35. | :00:38. | |
to my left, Westminster Bridge, where hundreds of tourists, | :00:39. | :00:42. | |
Londoners, people from around the world were going about their daily | :00:43. | :00:46. | |
business as they cross that bridge and a man drove onto the pavement | :00:47. | :00:53. | |
and moved down dozens of people, killing some and critically injuring | :00:54. | :00:56. | |
others. Police have made their first arrests in connection with the | :00:57. | :00:57. | |
attack. Raids were carried out | :00:58. | :01:00. | |
in Birmingham overnight - The Metropolitan Police a four | :01:01. | :01:11. | |
people died in the incident including the attacker. A man and | :01:12. | :01:15. | |
woman died when the attacker drove a car at pedestrians on Westminster | :01:16. | :01:16. | |
Bridge. PC Keith Palmer was stabbed to death | :01:17. | :01:21. | |
as he tried to stop the attacker The suspect was then shot dead | :01:22. | :01:24. | |
by plain-clothes police officers. 29 people are being treated | :01:25. | :01:28. | |
in hospital - seven of them A minute's silence will be | :01:29. | :01:31. | |
held across Westminster The moment of the attack on | :01:32. | :01:46. | |
Westminster Bridge. On the right-hand side we see a car moving | :01:47. | :01:51. | |
at speed along the pavement in front of a slow-moving line of traffic. A | :01:52. | :01:56. | |
figure, we now know it is a woman, falls into the water. And then panic | :01:57. | :02:03. | |
as members of the public realise something is wrong. Three shots rang | :02:04. | :02:09. | |
out. A photograph shows the immediate aftermath. An armed police | :02:10. | :02:15. | |
officer stands poised over the attacker. At the foot is a knife and | :02:16. | :02:20. | |
another knife is found on the ground. The police officer stabbed | :02:21. | :02:26. | |
to death was Keith Palmer, 48, a husband and father. He was a member | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
of the Parliamentary and diplomatic police command. The major terror | :02:31. | :02:37. | |
investigation is under way in the capital and West Midlands. Overnight | :02:38. | :02:41. | |
there was a raid on a flat in East Birmingham, the area closed off for | :02:42. | :02:46. | |
more than two hours. The car used in the attack is believed to be hired | :02:47. | :02:50. | |
in Solihull. Hundreds of detectives have worked through the night and we | :02:51. | :02:56. | |
have searched six addresses and made seven arrests. The inquiries in | :02:57. | :03:00. | |
Birmingham, London and other parts of the country continue. It is our | :03:01. | :03:07. | |
belief that this attacker acted alone and was inspired by | :03:08. | :03:13. | |
international terrorism. Two people died on the bridge. At least 29 | :03:14. | :03:17. | |
others were wounded, seven are in critical condition. The Prime | :03:18. | :03:22. | |
Minister said parliament would meet as normal today. She urged the | :03:23. | :03:27. | |
people of London and its visitors to do the same. And we will move | :03:28. | :03:30. | |
forward together. Never giving in to terror. And never allowing the | :03:31. | :03:37. | |
voices of hate and evil to drive us apart. Police have not named the | :03:38. | :03:44. | |
attacker, but they believe they know his identity. They are treating it | :03:45. | :03:49. | |
as a case of Islamist-related terrorism. My message to those who | :03:50. | :03:54. | |
want to harm us and destroy our way of life is you will not succeed, you | :03:55. | :04:00. | |
will not divide us, we will not be cowed by terrorists. Overnight a | :04:01. | :04:04. | |
show of solidarity from the French capital, a city that has also | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
suffered from the scourge of terrorism. The lights of the Eiffel | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
Tower was switched off. The Prime Minister called the incident sick | :04:13. | :04:16. | |
and depraved, but the official terror alert level has not been | :04:17. | :04:21. | |
raised. The priority for the police now will be to find out if the | :04:22. | :04:33. | |
attacker was working alone. Good morning. What is the feeling in | :04:34. | :04:39. | |
Westminster this morning, Nicky Morgan? Clearly there is disruption. | :04:40. | :04:46. | |
People are having to get into the Houses of Parliament by a different | :04:47. | :04:50. | |
route. I think a sense of shock and a sense of, did this really | :04:51. | :04:56. | |
happening? And yes it did. But also a determination we will get on with | :04:57. | :05:01. | |
life which is why the Commons will sit this morning. People going | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
around their normal daily lives. In terms of the House of Commons | :05:06. | :05:11. | |
sitting as usual. At 9:30am there will be a minute's silence and then | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
an opportunity for you and your colleagues to pay tribute to those | :05:16. | :05:19. | |
who lost their lives, but the significance of those going about | :05:20. | :05:23. | |
their business as normal, what is that? It is business as usual. If | :05:24. | :05:30. | |
the terrorists win, we start affecting our daily lives when we | :05:31. | :05:33. | |
allow the terror they attempt to create to stop us going about our | :05:34. | :05:37. | |
usual business. It is significant that after the minute's silence we | :05:38. | :05:42. | |
will continue to discuss the business we were going to discuss | :05:43. | :05:44. | |
which is international trade questions. The first hour of every | :05:45. | :05:49. | |
day we have question to administer and we will continue with that and | :05:50. | :05:53. | |
then a statement from the Prime Minister. It is deeply significant | :05:54. | :05:59. | |
the message you send is of course a moment of sombre reflection about | :06:00. | :06:03. | |
heroism, the police officer who died, the tragedy of people | :06:04. | :06:05. | |
innocently murdered, but also that we go on. The terrorist struck at | :06:06. | :06:14. | |
the heart of Westminster, but, many of those who lost their lives were | :06:15. | :06:18. | |
on Westminster Bridge, tourists, people going about their daily | :06:19. | :06:22. | |
business. They were innocent victims. That is what makes this | :06:23. | :06:29. | |
particularly awful. We are guarded at Westminster by fantastic | :06:30. | :06:31. | |
policemen and security personnel and one of them lay down his life | :06:32. | :06:37. | |
yesterday and ran towards the danger as others did. This seems on | :06:38. | :06:41. | |
Westminster Bridge of innocent people and many will watch the | :06:42. | :06:46. | |
programme, who will have walked over the bridge and visited London, live | :06:47. | :06:50. | |
in London, come from overseas, and the thought that they can suddenly | :06:51. | :06:54. | |
be struck down in such a terrible way I think will weigh heavily on | :06:55. | :06:59. | |
all of us. I would like to say London is still open, we would like | :07:00. | :07:04. | |
people to come and visit. The Palace of Westminster is a World Heritage | :07:05. | :07:09. | |
site and it is important it remains open. I want to ask about your | :07:10. | :07:18. | |
colleague who tried to help save the life of the police officer. Tobias | :07:19. | :07:26. | |
Ellwood. That is a picture used by many newspapers today. He is an | :07:27. | :07:32. | |
extraordinary man. His family has faced personal tragedy. He lost a | :07:33. | :07:39. | |
brother in the Balie bombings. I was in Bangladesh when we had an | :07:40. | :07:42. | |
earthquake and there he was telling everybody where to go, how to be | :07:43. | :07:47. | |
safe. It is typical of the man he would run to that event and try to | :07:48. | :07:51. | |
help, based I think on his army background. You say it is important | :07:52. | :07:56. | |
people get the message London is open as usual. I have spoken to | :07:57. | :08:01. | |
people on their way to work, college, university, this morning, | :08:02. | :08:07. | |
and a number said, yes, I am scared, I am anxious. My heart goes out to | :08:08. | :08:12. | |
the people who lost loved ones yesterday but you have to go on with | :08:13. | :08:18. | |
your life. Precisely. There is reason to be cautious and to be | :08:19. | :08:25. | |
vigilant, but, what the terrorists want, the moment they win is the | :08:26. | :08:31. | |
moment we cease to be a civilised society, the moment we cease to | :08:32. | :08:35. | |
operate as business as usual. One of the most telling things about | :08:36. | :08:40. | |
yesterday, after the police shot the terrorist, they attempted to save | :08:41. | :08:46. | |
his life. That is what we do in civilised, Western society. We do | :08:47. | :08:50. | |
not try to operate in the same way the murderers do, we show a | :08:51. | :08:55. | |
different example. People can hear the sirens and see the activity | :08:56. | :09:00. | |
behind us 150 metres away from the Palace of Westminster, does it feel | :09:01. | :09:03. | |
different to you this morning? Of course. We have a huge media scrum | :09:04. | :09:10. | |
here, things are different. We live under the shadow of what happened | :09:11. | :09:15. | |
yesterday. But we will simultaneously be vigilant and | :09:16. | :09:22. | |
defiant and we will carry on doing our best. Unfortunately, the forces | :09:23. | :09:27. | |
of darkness may continue to do their worst. What about security at the | :09:28. | :09:32. | |
Palace of Westminster? Is it inevitable it will be reviewed? It | :09:33. | :09:38. | |
is always kept under review and I am sure they will book, in time, at | :09:39. | :09:44. | |
what happened, and what was breached. As somebody pointed out, | :09:45. | :09:49. | |
it did hold because the attacker only got 20 metres inside and then | :09:50. | :09:55. | |
was stopped by police and tackled. There may be other areas, ways that | :09:56. | :10:00. | |
people responded to this that will be needed to be looked at. It is | :10:01. | :10:06. | |
important that Parliament, it is a place of work, not just MPs there, | :10:07. | :10:12. | |
there are thousands of members of staff, journalists, members of the | :10:13. | :10:16. | |
Public come for beatings. We have school tours, and it is important it | :10:17. | :10:21. | |
continues -- members of the public come in for meetings. Things are | :10:22. | :10:29. | |
taken off people when they can come in, if there is a sense of danger, | :10:30. | :10:34. | |
which can be inconvenient, like an airport, but that balance has two | :10:35. | :10:38. | |
continue. You do not want it to be a fortress? Not at all. It worked. The | :10:39. | :10:46. | |
tragic circumstances as a result of that, but the security stood up. | :10:47. | :10:55. | |
This attack happened almost exactly at the time we had a vote and you | :10:56. | :11:00. | |
had 600 members of Parliament travelling across the Parliamentary | :11:01. | :11:04. | |
estate at that moment. We may need to consider the gates are constantly | :11:05. | :11:11. | |
opening because you have ministerial cars arriving. Those gates were not | :11:12. | :11:17. | |
locked because of the frequent use? The majority of the day the gates | :11:18. | :11:22. | |
are locked. You have to beep your horn to get access. The time of the | :11:23. | :11:26. | |
vote they opened and shut because you have ministerial cars arriving | :11:27. | :11:32. | |
will stop whether that was a factor I am not certain but all those | :11:33. | :11:38. | |
things will be reviewed. The balance will continue. For viewers watching | :11:39. | :11:43. | |
on BBC Two, coverage continues now on BBC One. | :11:44. | :12:54. | |
We can say good morning to viewers on BBC One. We are live from | :12:55. | :13:10. | |
Westminster. Both have been talking about their desire that the Palace | :13:11. | :13:13. | |
of Westminster does not become a fortress after what happened | :13:14. | :13:24. | |
yesterday. We will talk to Phil Mackie who is in Birmingham, where | :13:25. | :13:28. | |
police have carried out raids overnight we are told. We are | :13:29. | :13:33. | |
expecting a minute's silence, and then an opportunity for you and your | :13:34. | :13:36. | |
colleagues to pay tribute to those who try to help yesterday, and to | :13:37. | :13:38. | |
those who lost their lives. to offer support to our police and | :13:39. | :13:58. | |
security services in the continuing investigations. This will be a | :13:59. | :14:02. | |
long-running investigation. This is only the start of it. Thanks for | :14:03. | :14:10. | |
your time. We will go live to Birmingham and our correspondent. | :14:11. | :14:15. | |
Tell us the latest from there. I have just seen three plain clothes | :14:16. | :14:20. | |
and one uniformed police officers go through the brown door, the door to | :14:21. | :14:24. | |
the flats above this Iranian restaurant, where armed officers | :14:25. | :14:28. | |
came at around 11 o'clock last night. People in the other flats say | :14:29. | :14:32. | |
they saw them here, certainly until the early hours, when three people | :14:33. | :14:40. | |
were taken away. We also know that during the night officers were seen | :14:41. | :14:45. | |
taking out boxes of what we presume is evidence in this investigation. | :14:46. | :15:24. | |
There are several police vans parked up here and one presumes inside they | :15:25. | :15:29. | |
are still carrying out forensically investigations. There you can see | :15:30. | :15:40. | |
the Prime Minister leaving Downing Street. Making her way to the House | :15:41. | :15:46. | |
of Commons where the assistant political editor Norman Smith is. | :15:47. | :15:49. | |
What is the atmosphere like this morning. It is quieter than usual. | :15:50. | :16:14. | |
Life is continuing as normal. People are determined to carry on as usual. | :16:15. | :16:19. | |
Ordinary staff at Westminster waiting to get back with their work. | :16:20. | :16:30. | |
Starting with questions to Liam Fox. At 10:30am we will get the statement | :16:31. | :16:36. | |
by the Prime Minister when she will lead tributes to those killed | :16:37. | :16:42. | |
yesterday. That will be a sombre moment. | :16:43. | :17:01. | |
Democracy faces a challenge from those who reject its values. The | :17:02. | :17:10. | |
desire to almost send a visible symbol of democracy that is not | :17:11. | :17:15. | |
going to be cowed, that will not speak tailed and is carrying on as | :17:16. | :17:21. | |
usual. We will have the speaker's procession going through shortly, | :17:22. | :17:25. | |
and there will be the Chaplin, Sergeant at Arms. They have done | :17:26. | :17:30. | |
that route week in, week out, it has been the same for sentries and will | :17:31. | :17:34. | |
continue today. Members of the public will come here to ask to see | :17:35. | :17:43. | |
their MP and raise issues with them. They will still be able to queue up | :17:44. | :17:47. | |
to go to the public gallery and hear debates. The only thing they will | :17:48. | :17:51. | |
not be able to do is go on the tours. That is a crime scene. That | :17:52. | :18:02. | |
is the only thing curtailed. Apart from that, democracy continues as | :18:03. | :18:08. | |
usual as it has done for centuries. We will be back with you at 9:30am, | :18:09. | :18:14. | |
just ahead of that minute silence. The police have just named one of | :18:15. | :18:24. | |
the victims of the attack yesterday. According to a member of staff at | :18:25. | :18:27. | |
the college she went to she was a highly | :18:28. | :18:33. | |
In fact it is her principal, the head of DLD College London, one of | :18:34. | :18:45. | |
the victims named in the last few minutes. This is BBC News, we are | :18:46. | :18:58. | |
live from Westminster. Also with us, leader bridge, your reflections, | :18:59. | :19:12. | |
having experience what you extends 12 years ago? It has taken me right | :19:13. | :19:18. | |
back. I was in the tube that got bombed, and when the news broke | :19:19. | :19:21. | |
yesterday and the photo started appearing on the net, I was at my | :19:22. | :19:27. | |
office and I said I can't see this. It was just like rewinding back in | :19:28. | :19:32. | |
time, and seeing those bodies and injured people, I just started | :19:33. | :19:36. | |
thinking about what happened on the Piccadilly tube when the bomb went | :19:37. | :19:41. | |
off. But what did stand out, and what really hit me was how London | :19:42. | :19:47. | |
came together yesterday. We unfortunately lost a police officer | :19:48. | :19:52. | |
yesterday who tragically was killed. For me, 12 years ago, what stood out | :19:53. | :19:58. | |
was that one voice saying it is the police, we are coming to get you. It | :19:59. | :20:02. | |
was a male police officer. When the bomb went off, it felt like there | :20:03. | :20:05. | |
was a noose around my heart and it was being tightened, but when I | :20:06. | :20:11. | |
heard that voice, it is police, we are coming to get you, I felt the | :20:12. | :20:15. | |
most reassurance and my life. To lose a police officer, those who | :20:16. | :20:19. | |
make London and the UK say for us, has released truck me and everyone. | :20:20. | :20:26. | |
It is unfortunate we have lost his life and others with him as well, | :20:27. | :20:31. | |
but it has been 12 years on, we have faced another attack, we can't let | :20:32. | :20:34. | |
this divide us in any way. In fact, let's be the London that we are. We | :20:35. | :20:38. | |
stand together. We will not be defeated, because if we are we are | :20:39. | :20:41. | |
feeding right into the hands of those who want to divide us. Which | :20:42. | :20:47. | |
is an echo of what the Prime Minister Theresa May said. Lee. | :20:48. | :20:51. | |
Average, a former national security adviser. This attack hired a 4x4 and | :20:52. | :20:59. | |
could have got a knife from anywhere. That is almost impossible | :21:00. | :21:04. | |
to protect people against, isn't it? It is very difficult. Last year, Al | :21:05. | :21:11. | |
Baghdad Ebert out a call to all their supporters from ISAs, and they | :21:12. | :21:16. | |
used the term household terrorism, to use but ever resources you have, | :21:17. | :21:21. | |
knives, axes, hammers, your vehicles, they didn't have to look | :21:22. | :21:24. | |
at complicated attacks like expose of all requiring firearms. A very | :21:25. | :21:31. | |
low technical approach to an attack. In their eyes, a successful outcome | :21:32. | :21:35. | |
to yesterday, tragic from our perspective. Could have been a lot | :21:36. | :21:41. | |
worse. But very difficult for us to identify that activity, the main | :21:42. | :21:45. | |
thing we can do as we saw fantastically well was the police | :21:46. | :21:48. | |
response and the emergency services, the medics and members of the | :21:49. | :21:54. | |
public. It was a very cohesive response to that tragic event | :21:55. | :21:55. | |
yesterday. Which the Accu -- acting they prepared, they knew what they | :21:56. | :22:13. | |
would do. They train on a regular basis around the country, not just | :22:14. | :22:17. | |
at iconic sites. They are training and rehearsing all the time for | :22:18. | :22:21. | |
these sorts of incidents. Is this also train. Yesterday we saw the | :22:22. | :22:25. | |
dynamic lockdown kick in at Westminster. This is where normal | :22:26. | :22:30. | |
businesses should be doing this on a regular basis, just in case, and it | :22:31. | :22:34. | |
is a rare incident that you will be involved, but so they can protect | :22:35. | :22:39. | |
you and members of the public. We will talk to you much more in the | :22:40. | :22:44. | |
next half an hour or so. You can probably hear the police helicopters | :22:45. | :22:46. | |
across and also the media helicopters above. The road ahead of | :22:47. | :22:52. | |
me is jam-packed because this main thoroughfare through Westminster is | :22:53. | :22:57. | |
obviously shutdown. We are just in front of a police called in because | :22:58. | :23:00. | |
that is where a major investigation is going on. On the other side of | :23:01. | :23:04. | |
the Palace of Westminster is Annita McVeigh. | :23:05. | :23:18. | |
I am just outside. The Forces Chaplain, the Reverend Jonathan | :23:19. | :23:23. | |
Osborne in the service of the force. We are | :23:24. | :23:39. | |
told that Craig Mackey will make some brief statement. We heard from | :23:40. | :23:46. | |
the acting deputy head of the Met police. | :23:47. | :23:52. | |
The latest figures I now have are currently only four dead, and 29 | :23:53. | :23:58. | |
were treated in hospital. We are also still collating numbers of | :23:59. | :24:01. | |
walking wounded. Sadly seven of those in hospital are still in | :24:02. | :24:06. | |
critical condition. Tragically, the deaths included PC Keith Palmer who | :24:07. | :24:12. | |
was protecting Parliament, two members of the public, a woman in | :24:13. | :24:17. | |
her mid-40s and a man in his mid-50s. The fourth man of course | :24:18. | :24:20. | |
was the terrorist who was shot dead by armed police at the scene. | :24:21. | :24:24. | |
Hundreds of detectives have been working through the night, and | :24:25. | :24:28. | |
during that time I can confirm we have searched six addresses and made | :24:29. | :24:32. | |
seven arrests. The enquiries in Birmingham, London and other parts | :24:33. | :24:37. | |
of the country are continuing. It is still our belief, which continues to | :24:38. | :24:40. | |
be borne out by our investigation, that this attack at acted alone and | :24:41. | :24:45. | |
was inspired by international terrorism. To be explicit at this | :24:46. | :24:49. | |
stage we have no specific information about further threats to | :24:50. | :24:54. | |
the public. The investigation is ongoing and developing all the time, | :24:55. | :24:59. | |
and we continue to focus on his motivation, his preparation and his | :25:00. | :25:05. | |
associates. The latest from the police at New Scotland Yard. It is | :25:06. | :25:08. | |
coming up to 930 on this Thursday morning, we are live from | :25:09. | :25:12. | |
Westminster. It is a cold, bright morning here in the capital. In the | :25:13. | :25:18. | |
heart of the city, the morning after the terrorist attack on the seat of | :25:19. | :25:24. | |
government, the seat of Parliament, four people were killed, including | :25:25. | :25:28. | |
the attacker, the man who took his car onto the pavement of Westminster | :25:29. | :25:32. | |
Bridge and mowed down dozens and dozens of pedestrians before making | :25:33. | :25:35. | |
his way into the Palace of Westminster, into the the environs, | :25:36. | :25:43. | |
the railings behind the gates, where he stabbed a police officer, PC | :25:44. | :25:47. | |
Keith Palmer. And after that he was shot by armed police. In a moment or | :25:48. | :25:52. | |
two we will go live to the Commons, where we are expecting a minute's | :25:53. | :25:57. | |
silence, and then we are expecting politicians to mark what happened | :25:58. | :26:01. | |
yesterday, and to pay tribute to those who lost their lives. Former | :26:02. | :26:12. | |
national counter terrorist adviser Lee Dodderidge is with me. What | :26:13. | :26:17. | |
would you want to hear from your elected representatives this | :26:18. | :26:22. | |
morning? I would like them to send out a message, we are London, we are | :26:23. | :26:30. | |
united. I survived 7-712 years ago and we did not let that the foetus. | :26:31. | :26:34. | |
I will post you there because MPs are filing in to the chamber, the | :26:35. | :26:40. | |
House of Commons, as you can see. A sombre mood, clearly. And in the | :26:41. | :26:48. | |
next moment or two, they will pause for 60 seconds to remember the three | :26:49. | :26:54. | |
people killed by the attacker yesterday. Norman, what is the | :26:55. | :26:59. | |
feeling amongst politicians right now? Obviously shock, anger too, but | :27:00. | :27:08. | |
the two other emotions I think our, one, that sense of defiance, | :27:09. | :27:13. | |
determination that Parliament is not going to be disrupted, it will carry | :27:14. | :27:16. | |
on as usual. It always does whenever it is under attack. And of course it | :27:17. | :27:24. | |
is a moment for reflection, and really for people to be given an | :27:25. | :27:27. | |
opportunity because we will have that statement from the Prime | :27:28. | :27:30. | |
Minister in about an hour's time, for MPs to be able to reflect on the | :27:31. | :27:36. | |
courage of the police officer who died, but also the bravery of other | :27:37. | :27:40. | |
officers, and the work they do, date in, day out, giving this place safe, | :27:41. | :27:49. | |
and to reflect too the sense of horror at the terrible, pointless | :27:50. | :27:53. | |
slaughter of innocent people, many tourists, just enjoying London on a | :27:54. | :27:57. | |
beautiful spring day, crossing Westminster Bridge, taking in the | :27:58. | :28:06. | |
iconic views. And just how precious and fragile democracy is, that there | :28:07. | :28:10. | |
are those who reject the values of democracy, and the fact come as the | :28:11. | :28:17. | |
Prime Minister said yesterday that Westminster was targeted, it | :28:18. | :28:19. | |
underlines the fact that Westminster, the way it is seen | :28:20. | :28:23. | |
around the world because it was the first sort of modern parliament, and | :28:24. | :28:28. | |
it is seen as emblematic of aspirations around freedom, freedom | :28:29. | :28:32. | |
of expression, tolerance, all those sort of values, which may be we take | :28:33. | :28:37. | |
for granted, but which events like yesterday bring home just help | :28:38. | :28:41. | |
precious those values are and how they have to be defended. I expect | :28:42. | :28:47. | |
when the Prime Minister delivers her tribute, much of it will be similar | :28:48. | :28:51. | |
to watch said last night but I also suspect she will urge people to be | :28:52. | :28:56. | |
vigilant. Although we have 30,000 police officers in the capital, they | :28:57. | :29:01. | |
cannot be everywhere guarding everyone at all times. Much of the | :29:02. | :29:06. | |
responsibility for safeguarding the city falls on individual citizens to | :29:07. | :29:12. | |
be alert, to be aware, to respond to concerns, and I suspect that too | :29:13. | :29:15. | |
will form part of the message that she gives to MPs when we hear from | :29:16. | :29:23. | |
her in about one hour's time. Before then, we should have very soon a | :29:24. | :29:30. | |
minute's silence in parliament, but also along Whitehall too, to give | :29:31. | :29:36. | |
people, people who can't come in here, a chance to just reflect on | :29:37. | :29:43. | |
what happened yesterday, to pause, to take stock, I think we may well | :29:44. | :29:48. | |
hear the division that Bell signed here before the minute's silence | :29:49. | :29:52. | |
just to alert MPs and staff were ever they are -- the division Bell. | :29:53. | :29:58. | |
Many will still be in their offices, to give them an opportunity to let | :29:59. | :30:04. | |
them know that the minute's silence is taking place. And of course in | :30:05. | :30:10. | |
the police enquiry, that continues, going ahead not just here in London | :30:11. | :30:14. | |
but there have been investigations in Birmingham, where that was that | :30:15. | :30:29. | |
raid. Still no firm details about the attacker. The police not | :30:30. | :30:36. | |
confirming his nationality, but again suggesting they believe he was | :30:37. | :30:38. | |
acting on his own. We gather to join in prayer is for | :30:39. | :31:49. | |
those who mourn Keith and victims of yesterday's incident. We give thanks | :31:50. | :31:55. | |
for Keith, who, as we honour his memory, we put our trust in the | :31:56. | :32:02. | |
future. Loving God, we remember all people of faith and no faith. We ask | :32:03. | :32:08. | |
you to protect and guard all those who are called to serve at the | :32:09. | :32:12. | |
Metropolitan Police Service and other emergency services. Grant them | :32:13. | :32:16. | |
the spirit of wisdom and discernment. Make them strong, | :32:17. | :32:22. | |
upright and compassionate for the welfare of all who they serve. | :32:23. | :32:30. | |
Order, order. Questions to the Secretary of State for international | :32:31. | :33:45. | |
trade, Mr Bob Blackman. Question number one, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, | :33:46. | :33:56. | |
as we begin... As we begin our questions today it is appropriate we | :33:57. | :34:01. | |
recommit ourselves to the values this parliament represents. Those | :34:02. | :34:03. | |
who carry out such wicked and depraved actions. We must ensure it | :34:04. | :34:12. | |
is not violence, hatred or division, but decency, forgiveness and | :34:13. | :34:15. | |
tolerance that prevails in our country. | :34:16. | :34:36. | |
A minute's silence at Scotland Yard and also along Whitehall and here in | :34:37. | :34:44. | |
parliament in Central lobby, where officers and MPs, staff, stood, | :34:45. | :34:56. | |
heads bowed, the business coming to a standstill. Marked by the division | :34:57. | :35:02. | |
bell, to say the silence will begin and a division bell at the end | :35:03. | :35:05. | |
markets ending. I think we can cross now to Scotland Yard. As part of my | :35:06. | :35:13. | |
leadership role, I will be going to Cobra later this morning for the | :35:14. | :35:18. | |
next meeting for an update in relation to the various elements of | :35:19. | :35:22. | |
this investigation and response. You will be aware that I personally was | :35:23. | :35:29. | |
a witness to yesterday's events. Part of yesterday's events, | :35:30. | :35:34. | |
including part of the tragic attack on PC Palmer. As with all police | :35:35. | :35:40. | |
officers, I have a duty to secure my evidence and give statements | :35:41. | :35:44. | |
yesterday evening, which I did before resuming our role, leading | :35:45. | :35:50. | |
the response to this incident. I know I will have the opportunity | :35:51. | :35:53. | |
later to take questions but thank you for being with us this morning | :35:54. | :35:56. | |
and thank you for that act of remembrance. | :35:57. | :36:14. | |
Craig Mackey from the Scotland Yard, from the Metropolitan Police with | :36:15. | :36:21. | |
the latest on the investigation. After what happened yesterday. I | :36:22. | :36:27. | |
will introduce you now to three Londoners, Olivia, Neil and Ali. | :36:28. | :36:40. | |
What is your feeling? Travelling around London it is a sombre mood. | :36:41. | :36:44. | |
People have lost their lives and families affected. There is also a | :36:45. | :36:51. | |
feeling of resilience and determination in the air. I think | :36:52. | :36:57. | |
Londoners are fairly, I suppose resilient to these sorts of things | :36:58. | :37:01. | |
and life has to go one and we have to get on with life. Just walking | :37:02. | :37:05. | |
around London, people are going about their business, which is | :37:06. | :37:10. | |
fantastic to see. I really noticed this morning a level of nervousness | :37:11. | :37:14. | |
but people determined to go about their daily life and that is | :37:15. | :37:20. | |
crucial. My concern is what are the repercussions of this, where do | :37:21. | :37:25. | |
people take this story and start the investigations and peoples views, | :37:26. | :37:30. | |
particularly at a time when the country feels divided and what will | :37:31. | :37:36. | |
happen in terms of people'sconversations and | :37:37. | :37:38. | |
perceptions of others in the community, which is concerning, but | :37:39. | :37:42. | |
in terms of daily life it is about getting on with it. To not allow it | :37:43. | :37:49. | |
to take us away from what we do in our daily life. Good morning. What | :37:50. | :37:57. | |
is your attitude today? As the guests summarised, nervousness. | :37:58. | :38:05. | |
There was definitely a sense of people getting on with things but my | :38:06. | :38:09. | |
thoughts are also of course with what happened yesterday with the | :38:10. | :38:12. | |
people of the bridge and the potential backlash that other | :38:13. | :38:18. | |
Londoners might experience, especially in the Muslim community, | :38:19. | :38:21. | |
the more visible members of the community. But life goes on. Who's | :38:22. | :38:27. | |
responsibility do you think it is to draw people together? Primarily the | :38:28. | :38:32. | |
politicians, the Mayor of London. He has done a good job so far. The most | :38:33. | :38:38. | |
important thing they need to do is show unity and leadership and bring | :38:39. | :38:41. | |
everyone together and I think they are doing that so far. I have spoken | :38:42. | :38:48. | |
to lots of people, schoolchildren, students, people going to work, and | :38:49. | :38:53. | |
you talk about nervousness. Some said, I am scared, but I have to go | :38:54. | :39:02. | |
to work. Inevitably there is a nervousness, your senses are | :39:03. | :39:06. | |
heightened that somehow we have to move through that. There is a fear. | :39:07. | :39:10. | |
Last night when I heard the news and I was in central London, there was | :39:11. | :39:17. | |
fear for my family and friends. How will I get home? Who do I know in | :39:18. | :39:22. | |
that area? But that was a quick thought process and now it was, I | :39:23. | :39:29. | |
have to get home. As Londoners, we have become sadly prepared for | :39:30. | :39:35. | |
things like this. We are very aware of our surroundings and people | :39:36. | :39:39. | |
around us. It has been hammered over the past 12 years. Keeping an eye | :39:40. | :39:47. | |
out for things, be vigilant, and Londoners are prepared. Of course | :39:48. | :39:54. | |
people might be nervous. I place faith in the emergency services and | :39:55. | :39:57. | |
intelligence services and I'm sure they are doing the best they can. As | :39:58. | :40:03. | |
people who come into the city we have a responsibility to keep an eye | :40:04. | :40:06. | |
out for things and people will continue to do that. It is a | :40:07. | :40:10. | |
collective responsibility, you are right about politicians and leaders | :40:11. | :40:16. | |
but as individuals we have a collective responsibility to watch | :40:17. | :40:19. | |
out for each other but not be concerned about reporting things we | :40:20. | :40:24. | |
are concerned about. How can you be so aware of people driving badly | :40:25. | :40:30. | |
down a bridge? It is a car, not the traditional terrorism we have been | :40:31. | :40:37. | |
Euston the pass. Although sadly they are getting used to in other | :40:38. | :40:46. | |
European cities. We saw it last July in Nice. At the Christmas markets. | :40:47. | :40:56. | |
In Germany. It is something you cannot predict or forecasts. There | :40:57. | :41:02. | |
is so much you can do. It is a random act. Talking about | :41:03. | :41:10. | |
responsibility and politicians. I am a teacher and a big part of what we | :41:11. | :41:17. | |
do as teachers is trying to create a culture of a acceptance, awareness, | :41:18. | :41:22. | |
diversity, multicultural aspects, and that is important. I'm sure | :41:23. | :41:27. | |
children this morning have woken up whose families work in London are | :41:28. | :41:33. | |
scared. I spoke to boys between 13 and 15, on their phones, obviously, | :41:34. | :41:39. | |
and I said, what is your attitude this morning? They said, we are a | :41:40. | :41:45. | |
bit scared and our mums and dads have said be aware. But they are | :41:46. | :41:48. | |
walking to school as they do every day. It is a testimony to Londoners | :41:49. | :41:56. | |
that all the terror attacks we have experience through the IRA days, | :41:57. | :42:01. | |
onwards, people go about their daily lives. There is a remarkable level | :42:02. | :42:07. | |
of resilience. We spoke about Londoners and that is testament to | :42:08. | :42:12. | |
them and it is the best thing anybody can do, having the fear and | :42:13. | :42:15. | |
sense of proportion and continuing with daily life. And for those | :42:16. | :42:24. | |
tragically affected. They will not be feeling resilient today. Fear was | :42:25. | :42:29. | |
one of those things but last night, watching the news, I was close to | :42:30. | :42:33. | |
tears listening to stories about the policeman, who is a father. And all | :42:34. | :42:39. | |
the others. We have heard one of the women killed yesterday is a member | :42:40. | :42:44. | |
of staff at a college in London and the principal said she was a loved | :42:45. | :42:50. | |
colleague. Absolutely. And the devastation. They will need support | :42:51. | :42:57. | |
at some point. They have family and friends, but as a society we have a | :42:58. | :43:01. | |
responsibility to reach out to people when they have been through | :43:02. | :43:03. | |
such tragic circumstances. Did the Prime Minister get it right | :43:04. | :43:13. | |
when she talked about in a defiant way, the will have said, that this | :43:14. | :43:17. | |
evil will not so divisions in our society? It was a very powerful | :43:18. | :43:27. | |
speech, but to claim it won't divide us, it is a big claim. I think there | :43:28. | :43:32. | |
is a level of division that we have to face in this country anyway, and | :43:33. | :43:38. | |
it is easy to make those statements, but what you practically do? It is | :43:39. | :43:42. | |
one thing to say that outside Downing Street but what are the | :43:43. | :43:46. | |
practical actions, how are we bridging those divisions and gaps | :43:47. | :43:49. | |
between different communities and individuals? But aside from the | :43:50. | :43:55. | |
practical realities besides this challenge, as a symbol of the leader | :43:56. | :43:58. | |
of the United Kingdom she was absolutely right and she had to make | :43:59. | :44:03. | |
that statement as the symbol of Britain. Of course. She was right to | :44:04. | :44:07. | |
say that but it is to a certain extent rhetoric and it is | :44:08. | :44:12. | |
translating that into actionable outcomes. No one should | :44:13. | :44:22. | |
underestimate how difficult that task is. Thank you very much. I | :44:23. | :44:29. | |
appreciate your time. We are live at Westminster and the terror attack | :44:30. | :44:35. | |
here yesterday began at around 20 to three yesterday afternoon with a car | :44:36. | :44:40. | |
travelling at high speed North across the bridge towards | :44:41. | :44:44. | |
Parliament. This is how the story unfolded, and a warning that you | :44:45. | :44:45. | |
might find some scenes upsetting. This appalling incident began when a | :44:46. | :44:56. | |
single attacker drove his vehicle into pedestrians walking across | :44:57. | :44:57. | |
Westminster Bridge. We have details of a potentially | :44:58. | :45:10. | |
serious incident coming from various news agencies of two people shot | :45:11. | :45:15. | |
outside the Westminster Parliament. The building is apparently in | :45:16. | :45:21. | |
lockdown. You like, get undercover now! Police are currently evacuating | :45:22. | :45:28. | |
the street outside Parliament, amidst reports someone has been | :45:29. | :45:29. | |
shot. There is blood everywhere. People | :45:30. | :45:41. | |
have been shot or stabbed all over the place. I am now going to suspend | :45:42. | :45:51. | |
the sitting of the house, this house is now suspended but please wait | :45:52. | :45:56. | |
here. We heard what we thought were gunshots, turned around and we saw | :45:57. | :46:01. | |
the car had ploughed into a lady, I think it was a lady, I'm not 100% | :46:02. | :46:05. | |
sure, but underneath the wheel, and you could hear screams. On the other | :46:06. | :46:10. | |
side of the red there was a body and when I looked further up there was | :46:11. | :46:15. | |
another body. When I looked over the side of the bridge there appeared to | :46:16. | :46:20. | |
be a body in the water as well. Bodies of military must have been | :46:21. | :46:24. | |
about ten or 12 bodies in different places along the bridge. It seems a | :46:25. | :46:32. | |
police officer has been stabbed. This man had something in his hand, | :46:33. | :46:36. | |
it looked like a stick of some sort. We could see the man in Black moving | :46:37. | :46:42. | |
his arm in a way that suggested he was either starving or striking the | :46:43. | :46:48. | |
yellow jacketed policeman. We do not yet know the full impact of this | :46:49. | :46:53. | |
terrible incident, but I know that the whole country will be thinking | :46:54. | :46:56. | |
and praying for those who are affected, as I am. We have declared | :46:57. | :47:01. | |
this as a terrorist incident, and the counterterrorism command are | :47:02. | :47:04. | |
carrying out a full-scale investigation into the events today. | :47:05. | :47:08. | |
Sadly I can confirm that now four people have died. One of those who | :47:09. | :47:12. | |
died today was a police officer, PC Keith Palmer, a member of our | :47:13. | :47:16. | |
Parliamentary and diplomatic protection command. Aged 48, Keith | :47:17. | :47:23. | |
had 15 years service and was a husband and father. Let me make it | :47:24. | :47:26. | |
clear today, as I have had cause to do before, any attempt to defeat | :47:27. | :47:33. | |
those values through violence and terror is doomed to failure. We will | :47:34. | :47:40. | |
all move forward together. Never giving in to terror, and never | :47:41. | :47:44. | |
allowing the voices of hate and evil to drive us apart. | :47:45. | :47:52. | |
Theresa May V Prime Minister Maliki last night, this morning at | :47:53. | :47:58. | |
Westminster is it is a cruel, blow each morning, you can hear the | :47:59. | :48:00. | |
sounds of the police helicopters above us. We are at the House of | :48:01. | :48:10. | |
Lords end of Westminster, this is normally a very busy thoroughfare, | :48:11. | :48:12. | |
completely closed off as you would expect. Let me introduce you to Ben | :48:13. | :48:17. | |
Wallace, the security minister, and Kevin Scocco from politics home, who | :48:18. | :48:20. | |
saw the events unfold yesterday within the parameters of | :48:21. | :48:28. | |
Westminster. Ben Wallace, as security minister, how safe is | :48:29. | :48:33. | |
London? London is safe, we have some of the best security services of the | :48:34. | :48:38. | |
world, some of the best police. They have cancelled leave, there is more | :48:39. | :48:42. | |
police on the streets, reassurance patrols, and we are following up any | :48:43. | :48:45. | |
leads we have found from this attack. We are determined to make | :48:46. | :48:49. | |
sure that London goes back to work. Parliament is taking part of that | :48:50. | :48:55. | |
lead, we are back in business, and I think what Londoners who have been | :48:56. | :48:58. | |
here before over many decades and I'm afraid we'll probably be here | :48:59. | :49:02. | |
again at some stage, that we are getting on with business. We should | :49:03. | :49:06. | |
reassure the public that we really have some of the best people well | :49:07. | :49:09. | |
invested over the decades to make sure we have the tools they need to | :49:10. | :49:13. | |
follow up and see off any other danger. The police say they believe | :49:14. | :49:18. | |
at this stage that this man was acting alone, that he was inspired, | :49:19. | :49:25. | |
they say, by international Islamist ideology, but he was acting alone. | :49:26. | :49:29. | |
Yes, that is the evident point at the moment, that it was a single | :49:30. | :49:37. | |
person in that car who then carried out the attack on poor old PC Keith | :49:38. | :49:42. | |
Palmer, and that is why the incident is effectively over here, but of | :49:43. | :49:45. | |
course no one does anything without a trace, no one does things entirely | :49:46. | :49:49. | |
on their own. If he was radicalised committee had support elsewhere, and | :49:50. | :49:52. | |
that is what the police will following up. Kevin, hello to you, | :49:53. | :50:00. | |
you watched this unfold. What is it like to see this from your office | :50:01. | :50:05. | |
window? It is a very strange experience, you can't really take it | :50:06. | :50:10. | |
in. I saw that the man forced his way through a security gate, and | :50:11. | :50:16. | |
attack the police officer. And at that point it didn't make any sense. | :50:17. | :50:21. | |
We had heard a crash just before it, but thought they had maybe been a | :50:22. | :50:25. | |
smash on Westminster Bridge Road or something like that. But I saw him | :50:26. | :50:30. | |
come through, almost like it was in slow motion. He wrestled the police | :50:31. | :50:36. | |
officer the ground and then another police officer approached he got up | :50:37. | :50:39. | |
and produced a knife, or what looked like a knife anyway, his | :50:40. | :50:43. | |
outstretched arm towards the second police officer. Then my view was | :50:44. | :50:46. | |
obscured and then if you seconds later I heard gunfire. That was the | :50:47. | :50:51. | |
moment it became obvious that it was some kind of terror attack. Just | :50:52. | :50:55. | |
trying to take it on board was very strange. So you work right there in | :50:56. | :51:00. | |
the heart of what happened, what is your attitude about that today? I | :51:01. | :51:05. | |
think it is great that Parliament is back. We just had a minute was like | :51:06. | :51:09. | |
silence of MPs, you send out a strong message that Britain and | :51:10. | :51:15. | |
London won't be cowed by events like yesterday. We can go back to | :51:16. | :51:19. | |
business as normal. We have seen all around people in London walking to | :51:20. | :51:22. | |
work as if nothing happened, which is very good to see and sends out a | :51:23. | :51:28. | |
strong message. Hello Ann McLauchlan, SNP MP. What is your | :51:29. | :51:34. | |
attitude this morning? I just feel very sad for the people who have | :51:35. | :51:39. | |
died, and the people who have what is described as catastrophic | :51:40. | :51:42. | |
injuries. Who knows how their lives will change? The families of Keith | :51:43. | :51:47. | |
Palmer and others who died, just utter sadness. How do you view this | :51:48. | :51:55. | |
attack, is it about striking at democracy, harming innocent people | :51:56. | :52:02. | |
going about their business at a bridge? It is a murderer, murdering | :52:03. | :52:07. | |
people for no good reason. None of those people are known to the guy, I | :52:08. | :52:10. | |
assume. They did nothing to him and I don't think we should allow | :52:11. | :52:13. | |
anything else to get in the way of the fact that this person has | :52:14. | :52:19. | |
murdered these people. The attacker was able to get through carriage | :52:20. | :52:23. | |
gate, which one MP described as a weak spot, in terms of security. It | :52:24. | :52:31. | |
is a gate in frequent use, it isn't locked, there is a bolt that could | :52:32. | :52:34. | |
go straight across it. That is going to have to change, isn't it? I don't | :52:35. | :52:41. | |
think they will on the hoof look at the overall protective security of | :52:42. | :52:43. | |
Parliament but we shouldn't forget that this individual did not get | :52:44. | :52:48. | |
into Parliament. He was stopped with little -- lethal force, PC Keith | :52:49. | :52:54. | |
Palmer made sure that he gave his life and protected me and those who | :52:55. | :52:59. | |
work in Parliament. We are a Parliament of the people, we are | :53:00. | :53:04. | |
open for the people. My constituents, trade unions, people | :53:05. | :53:06. | |
come and see us every day and that is what we are there to do. | :53:07. | :53:10. | |
Entrances are always vulnerable in every place, that is why we have | :53:11. | :53:14. | |
armed police there, that is why we have police on the gate. But of | :53:15. | :53:20. | |
course all these things are reviewed. The meeting I had before | :53:21. | :53:23. | |
this incident was with the head of security in Parliament about what we | :53:24. | :53:31. | |
can do to keep MPs and their staff say. All of that is always under | :53:32. | :53:36. | |
constant review. After this, we should give the space for the | :53:37. | :53:41. | |
professionals to do their job, to make sure we pursue any other | :53:42. | :53:44. | |
suspects or certainly make sure it is safer throughout the United | :53:45. | :53:47. | |
Kingdom, and then in the cold light of day, further on, of course these | :53:48. | :53:52. | |
things will continue to be reviewed. But I think the best thing for now | :53:53. | :53:56. | |
is to remember that this assailant did not get into the House of | :53:57. | :54:00. | |
Commons, did not get more than a few metres into the front gate. PC Keith | :54:01. | :54:06. | |
Palmer did his duty, and more so saved many other lives by what he | :54:07. | :54:09. | |
did, and I think that is the key point about it. We are expecting the | :54:10. | :54:15. | |
Prime Minister to make a statement to the Commons and we will ring that | :54:16. | :54:20. | |
to our viewers live. What are we expecting from Mrs May this morning? | :54:21. | :54:26. | |
The Prime Minister's speech gave last night I thought was incredibly | :54:27. | :54:31. | |
moving but powerful. Reiterating what British values are all about, | :54:32. | :54:34. | |
reiterating that people who try to twist religion, or try to make an | :54:35. | :54:40. | |
attack on our values and the people in Parliament, will always fail. And | :54:41. | :54:43. | |
that we are supported, and we are very lucky to be supported in this | :54:44. | :54:48. | |
country by police and intelligence services who are some of the best of | :54:49. | :54:51. | |
the world, and many governments have invested in their capability. I | :54:52. | :54:56. | |
would just reassure your viewers, the counterterrorism strategy is | :54:57. | :54:58. | |
about not just catching people, it is about preventing people being | :54:59. | :55:03. | |
radicalised, and about delivering all over the United Kingdom, in | :55:04. | :55:07. | |
Scotland, Lancashire, where I represent, and in the capital and in | :55:08. | :55:10. | |
the very iconic buildings we see here. It is about making sure people | :55:11. | :55:14. | |
understand that the best thing we can do is to go back to work and be | :55:15. | :55:18. | |
confident that they have underneath them the net of some of the most | :55:19. | :55:22. | |
professional people in the world in this area of counterterrorism. Thank | :55:23. | :55:26. | |
you very much, Ben Wallace, Devon Schofield and Ann McLauchlan, SNP | :55:27. | :55:33. | |
MP. As you heard Mr Wallace say, the best thing that people can do is go | :55:34. | :55:37. | |
back to work. We will bring you the very latest news at ten o'clock this | :55:38. | :55:42. | |
morning live from Westminster. As you can hear, police helicopters | :55:43. | :55:47. | |
overhead, and the media helicopters overhead going about their business. | :55:48. | :55:51. | |
One of the women who died in the attack has been named as Aysha | :55:52. | :55:57. | |
Frade, who worked at a sixth form college close to Westminster Bridge. | :55:58. | :56:05. | |
The principle of DLD College said Aysha Frade was highly regarded and | :56:06. | :56:09. | |
loved and would be deeply missed. We can get the latest from New Scotland | :56:10. | :56:12. | |
Yard where Annita McVeigh is this morning. | :56:13. | :56:15. | |
Yes, the police are the public and the public the Pliskova those were | :56:16. | :56:23. | |
the words a few minutes ago of Craig Mackey, Acting Commissioner of the | :56:24. | :56:27. | |
Metropolitan and, as he stood alongside colleagues in front of the | :56:28. | :56:33. | |
eternal flame, the flame that commemorates those who have lost | :56:34. | :56:36. | |
their lives in the service of the Metropolitan Police, and of course | :56:37. | :56:41. | |
uppermost in their thoughts, the loss of their colleague, PC Keith | :56:42. | :56:44. | |
Palmer, yesterday in the Westminster attack. Of course 24 hours a day, | :56:45. | :56:52. | |
every day of the year, the men and women of the Met collect -- protect | :56:53. | :56:57. | |
people in London. That protection continues today amidst the huge | :56:58. | :57:02. | |
investigation of yesterday's attack and the loss of their colleague, one | :57:03. | :57:08. | |
of their own, in the line of duty. Craig Mackey, Acting Commissioner, | :57:09. | :57:11. | |
went on to say that investigation continues. It is also about | :57:12. | :57:16. | |
reassurance for the public and Hi-Vis ability of officers on the | :57:17. | :57:21. | |
streets, many more officers on duty. He said although the police practice | :57:22. | :57:27. | |
for all sorts of scenarios in response to different possible | :57:28. | :57:29. | |
terrorist attacks, nothing he said, could prepare them as officers or | :57:30. | :57:37. | |
the public for the reality of yesterday's attack and of course the | :57:38. | :57:42. | |
loss of one of their own. That is the latest from New Scotland Yard. | :57:43. | :57:48. | |
We can hear the chimes of Big Ben live from Westminster where an | :57:49. | :58:01. | |
attack by a man thought to be inspired by so-called Islamic State | :58:02. | :58:03. | |
brought chaos and terror to the heart of London yesterday. | :58:04. | :58:09. | |
The man killed three people and left 29 others needing hospital treatment | :58:10. | :58:15. | |
before being shot dead outside the Houses of Parliament. | :58:16. | :58:17. | |
Anti-terror police have not released the attacker's name, | :58:18. | :58:19. | |
but confirm they've made seven arrests in raids around the UK. | :58:20. | :58:26. | |
Hundreds of detectives have been working through the night, | :58:27. | :58:28. | |
and during that time I can confirm we have searched six addresses | :58:29. | :58:31. | |
London and other parts of the country are continuing. | :58:32. | :58:45. | |
In the past hour, the second victim is named as mother Aysha Frade. | :58:46. | :58:49. | |
She was reportedly on her way to pick up her children from school. | :58:50. | :58:52. | |
has been named as the police officer who was killed. | :58:53. | :59:00. | |
MPs held a minute's silence to remember the victims. | :59:01. | :59:04. | |
The Government's emergency Cobra committee will meet later. | :59:05. | :59:10. | |
The Prime Minister has left Downing Street | :59:11. | :59:13. | |
and will address the House of Commons in around half an hour. | :59:14. | :59:18. | |
Last night, she described the attack as "sick and depraved." | :59:19. | :59:23. | |
We will all move forward together, never giving in to terror. | :59:24. | :59:29. | |
And never allowing the voices of hate and evil to drive us apart. | :59:30. | :59:38. | |
Inside Parliament, staff, MPs and peers return to work as normal in a | :59:39. | :59:48. | |
calculated act of defiance, with tributes to be lead shortly by the | :59:49. | :59:51. | |
Prime Minister for those murdered in yesterday's slaughter. | :59:52. | :00:15. | |
Police have made their first arrests in connection with the attack in | :00:16. | :00:21. | |
Westminster in which four people were killed, including the attacker. | :00:22. | :00:26. | |
Raids were carried out in Birmingham. Seven people have been | :00:27. | :00:27. | |
arrested. In the past half an hour, | :00:28. | :00:28. | |
silences and prayers were held in Parliament | :00:29. | :00:30. | |
and at New Scotland Yard to reflect Two people died when the attacker | :00:31. | :00:33. | |
drove a car at pedestrians One of the victims has been named | :00:34. | :00:40. | |
this morning as Aysha Frade. She's been described by her college | :00:41. | :00:45. | |
principal PC Keith Palmer was stabbed to death | :00:46. | :00:48. | |
as he tried to stop the attacker The suspect was then shot dead | :00:49. | :00:57. | |
by plain-clothes police officers. 29 people are being treated | :00:58. | :01:03. | |
in hospital, seven of them The moment of the attack | :01:04. | :01:06. | |
on Westminster Bridge. On the right-hand side we see a car | :01:07. | :01:17. | |
moving at speed along the pavement in front of a slow-moving | :01:18. | :01:21. | |
line of traffic. A figure, we now know it is a woman, | :01:22. | :01:23. | |
falls into the water. And then panic as members | :01:24. | :01:29. | |
of the public realise A photograph shows | :01:30. | :01:31. | |
the immediate aftermath. An armed police officer stands | :01:32. | :01:41. | |
poised over the attacker. Under his foot is a knife | :01:42. | :01:47. | |
and another knife is The police officer stabbed to death | :01:48. | :01:49. | |
was Keith Palmer, 48, He was a member of the Parliamentary | :01:50. | :01:55. | |
and Diplomatic Police Command. A major terror investigation | :01:56. | :02:03. | |
is under way in the capital Overnight there was a raid | :02:04. | :02:06. | |
on a flat in East Birmingham, the area closed off for more | :02:07. | :02:09. | |
than two hours. Hundreds of detectives have worked | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
through the night and we have searched six addresses | :02:15. | :02:17. | |
and made seven arrests. The inquiries in Birmingham, | :02:18. | :02:22. | |
London and other parts It is our belief that this attacker | :02:23. | :02:24. | |
acted alone and was inspired They included mother of two Aysha | :02:25. | :02:46. | |
Frade, a Spanish teacher who worked at a college a few hundred metres | :02:47. | :02:47. | |
away. At least 29 others were wounded, | :02:48. | :02:48. | |
seven are in critical condition. The Prime Minister said parliament | :02:49. | :02:52. | |
would meet as normal today. She urged the people of London | :02:53. | :02:56. | |
and its visitors to do the same. And we will all move | :02:57. | :03:00. | |
forward together. And never allowing the voices | :03:01. | :03:02. | |
of hate and evil to drive us apart. Police have not named | :03:03. | :03:13. | |
the attacker, but they believe They are treating it as a case | :03:14. | :03:15. | |
of Islamist-related terrorism. My message to those who want to harm | :03:16. | :03:22. | |
us and destroy our way of life is you will not succeed, | :03:23. | :03:25. | |
you will not divide us, Overnight a show of solidarity | :03:26. | :03:28. | |
from the French capital, Paris, a city that has also suffered | :03:29. | :03:36. | |
from the scourge of terrorism. The lights of the Eiffel Tower | :03:37. | :03:41. | |
were switched off. The Prime Minister called | :03:42. | :03:43. | |
the incident sick and depraved, but the official terror alert level | :03:44. | :03:47. | |
has not been raised. The priority for the police | :03:48. | :03:51. | |
now will be to find out You can hear sirens going off and | :03:52. | :04:10. | |
that is the sound that will accompany London life for the rest | :04:11. | :04:14. | |
of today and the next few days possibly. It is really busy. The | :04:15. | :04:20. | |
road behind me that leads to the Palace of Westminster obviously that | :04:21. | :04:24. | |
is cordoned off and completely empty and it is normally a main | :04:25. | :04:28. | |
thoroughfare. A high the camera, the roads are jam-packed, because | :04:29. | :04:34. | |
commuters, tourists and the like are trying to find their way around | :04:35. | :04:38. | |
London roads because so many in the heart of the city are shut. We will | :04:39. | :04:45. | |
now speak to a former counterterrorism detective who was | :04:46. | :04:50. | |
part of the 7/7 investigation. Also Chris Carley, and a doctor from the | :04:51. | :05:03. | |
counter extremism group Quilliam. I want to talk about PC Keith Palmer. | :05:04. | :05:10. | |
A 48-year-old officer with over a decade of service, a husband and | :05:11. | :05:15. | |
dad, an unarmed officer who tried to stop the attacker. How do you pay | :05:16. | :05:24. | |
tribute? He paid the ultimate sacrifice. We should be thankful | :05:25. | :05:30. | |
there are people like him who stand in the way of a man who wanted to | :05:31. | :05:37. | |
hurt many people. It is a tragic event and the ultimate sacrifice | :05:38. | :05:41. | |
that hopefully all police officers hope they will never have too pay | :05:42. | :05:44. | |
but he did his duty and it is a great tragedy. What is the priority | :05:45. | :05:51. | |
for officers in terms of the investigation? The biggest thing to | :05:52. | :05:56. | |
find out is to identify the man who drove the car on the bridge, where | :05:57. | :06:01. | |
the car came from. They believe they know who he is and they believe he | :06:02. | :06:06. | |
was acting alone. The next thing is to find out where he lives and | :06:07. | :06:11. | |
searches home and gain as much intelligence from thereabout who he | :06:12. | :06:16. | |
has been in contact with. He is dead, there will be no criminal | :06:17. | :06:20. | |
prosecution of him, the police will look at his wider circle and who he | :06:21. | :06:24. | |
has been associating with and see if they can find evidence against | :06:25. | :06:30. | |
those. Do you question how the attacker could have got into Palace | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
Yard? This is like a pedestrianised area and a car park for members of | :06:36. | :06:41. | |
Parliament. Surrounded by metal fencing, but it appears he got | :06:42. | :06:48. | |
through an unlocked gate, manned by two unarmed officers and unlocked | :06:49. | :06:51. | |
because it is in frequent use, I am told. It is one of these bizarre | :06:52. | :06:57. | |
things that happens. The individual has moved rapidly and people would | :06:58. | :07:03. | |
have been focused on what was going on on the bridge and suddenly you | :07:04. | :07:07. | |
have an individual moving at speed through a gate that is open. It | :07:08. | :07:12. | |
happens. Hard and fast and quickly, that is how these events occur. I | :07:13. | :07:21. | |
can bring in the doctor from counter extremism group Quilliam. How does | :07:22. | :07:26. | |
somebody become radicalised? The core message that terrorist groups | :07:27. | :07:32. | |
promote worldwide is that Muslims are separate and Muslims need their | :07:33. | :07:36. | |
own state and to live under their own law and oh no allegiance for a | :07:37. | :07:43. | |
garden -- Raiola no allegiance to for example of British Governor -- | :07:44. | :07:47. | |
payola no allegiance. That is a basic message used to | :07:48. | :08:00. | |
promote this kind of radicalisation. The message from Al-Qaeda and IS in | :08:01. | :08:05. | |
recent months has been to use vehicles to cause carnage? We saw | :08:06. | :08:10. | |
that in Nice and Berlin and we must take that threat seriously. When | :08:11. | :08:16. | |
they say it they mean it, to use cars and trucks as murderous | :08:17. | :08:19. | |
weapons. It is important to come together. We are united as citizens | :08:20. | :08:28. | |
of Britain and society is built on trust, including that vehicles do | :08:29. | :08:37. | |
not become weapons of murder. Society is based on mutual trust and | :08:38. | :08:42. | |
we must work harder on our sense of shared values and what brings us | :08:43. | :08:47. | |
together as a society and nation. If people use vehicles as lethal | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
weapons, how do you protect the public? It is almost impossible. | :08:52. | :08:57. | |
People walking across the bridge, tourists, people going about their | :08:58. | :09:02. | |
business and suddenly a car drives down the pavement. Trying to stop it | :09:03. | :09:07. | |
and mitigate against it is almost impossible. Westminster Bridge is | :09:08. | :09:13. | |
unusual. We have a lot of street furniture. Lamp posts, rubbish bins, | :09:14. | :09:21. | |
benches. Westminster Bridge is unusual, there is nothing on it and | :09:22. | :09:24. | |
if you have a long run of nothing and can get a vehicle on a pavement | :09:25. | :09:29. | |
with hundreds of people on the pavement looking at Big Ben, if you | :09:30. | :09:35. | |
get a vehicle up there there is a free run. It is a weakness we need | :09:36. | :09:42. | |
to identify. In mainland Europe, it is low-grade attacks with knives, | :09:43. | :09:46. | |
blunt weapons, cars and lorries and that is where we need to invest our | :09:47. | :09:54. | |
money. As a former counterterrorism officer, for you, what security | :09:55. | :10:00. | |
flaws have been exposed as a result of the attack? I would not say it | :10:01. | :10:05. | |
has exposed any flaws. It is interesting to see where the vehicle | :10:06. | :10:11. | |
hit the outer perimeter walls. Where the hostile mitigation stops. When | :10:12. | :10:16. | |
we look at security, it should be based on how the response will kick | :10:17. | :10:21. | |
in after. People say the gate was open, but it is meant to be open for | :10:22. | :10:26. | |
people to walk inside but the proof of the response was when they dealt | :10:27. | :10:30. | |
with the attacker, albeit he was inside. There are no flaws. We can | :10:31. | :10:37. | |
look back in hindsight. This morning additional measures were taken down | :10:38. | :10:42. | |
the road behind us. It will be interesting to see where the | :10:43. | :10:46. | |
barriers will be positioned through the day. The acting Deputy | :10:47. | :10:50. | |
Commissioner said there will be more armed police on the streets. | :10:51. | :10:54. | |
Something people will have to to get used to for the short-term. We need | :10:55. | :11:00. | |
to give support to officers. There has been a lot of bad press about | :11:01. | :11:05. | |
them walking out and buying sandwiches in Tesco but these people | :11:06. | :11:09. | |
are doing an important job and we need full support behind them. | :11:10. | :11:18. | |
Thanks. We can go to Birmingham now. Police say they have made several | :11:19. | :11:23. | |
arrests. Our correspondent is there. I am in front of the flats where the | :11:24. | :11:27. | |
arrests happened last night. The brown door leads upstairs to two | :11:28. | :11:34. | |
flats above a Persian restaurant. It happened around 11pm in the busy | :11:35. | :11:44. | |
Hagley Road. They closed it. People in the restaurants and the shops and | :11:45. | :11:47. | |
the pub at that time were told to stay put. They were held on lockdown | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
until about 1am when they were let go. I have spoken to someone living | :11:53. | :11:57. | |
in the neighbouring flat who took pictures from his window. Around | :11:58. | :12:05. | |
11pm, two or three unmarked vehicles pulled in and armed officers got out | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
and went in through that door. Later witnesses said they saw three people | :12:11. | :12:16. | |
take it away. We have not had it confirmed they were arrested but we | :12:17. | :12:19. | |
are assuming that three people were part of the investigations to which | :12:20. | :12:25. | |
the Met police referred to today. Several hours later, police officers | :12:26. | :12:31. | |
brought out sealed boxes of evidence from the flat. There is still police | :12:32. | :12:35. | |
activity this morning with several vehicles parked along the street. | :12:36. | :12:42. | |
About an hour ago, a uniformed officer and three plainclothes | :12:43. | :12:46. | |
officers went back into the flats and there is still clearly forensics | :12:47. | :12:49. | |
work going on. There is another line of enquiry in the West Midlands over | :12:50. | :12:58. | |
towards Solihull, where it is believed there is a link to a rental | :12:59. | :13:02. | |
car company and the car involved in the attack on Westminster Bridge | :13:03. | :13:07. | |
yesterday. We do not have any of the names of people taken out of that | :13:08. | :13:13. | |
flat. Although we are in Edgbaston, we are on the north side of Hagley | :13:14. | :13:18. | |
Road, on the edge of Ladywood will stop Edgbaston one of the most | :13:19. | :13:23. | |
expensive places to live in the city, Ladywood certainly one of the | :13:24. | :13:26. | |
poorest districts in the whole country. This is an area where you | :13:27. | :13:31. | |
get people from different countries living, a transient area with people | :13:32. | :13:35. | |
coming and going all the time. Neighbours I spoke to were not | :13:36. | :13:41. | |
necessarily sure of who lived in the flat that was the scene of | :13:42. | :13:44. | |
investigations last night, and it continues to be so today. Thank you. | :13:45. | :13:53. | |
Phil Mackie reporting live from Birmingham. BBC News live from | :13:54. | :13:58. | |
Westminster. Yesterday an attack paralysed the heart of government, | :13:59. | :14:03. | |
as MPs and hundreds of government officials were held in lockdown for | :14:04. | :14:07. | |
hours in the House of Commons, and yet this morning the House of | :14:08. | :14:13. | |
Commons sits as normal, the usual time at 930. Let me introduce you to | :14:14. | :14:19. | |
two Labour MPs, Barbara Keeley and Clive Lewis, and what do you think | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
of that, the fact it was business as usual at 9:30am today? It was very | :14:24. | :14:43. | |
good. It was very moving. It sends the right message that London | :14:44. | :14:45. | |
carries on and business carries on as usual. I would agree. It does | :14:46. | :15:02. | |
send a clear message. Clearly there is a tenseness, you can see the | :15:03. | :15:06. | |
police helicopters and the police presence. There was quiet and empty | :15:07. | :15:09. | |
on the trends this morning but people are going about their | :15:10. | :15:12. | |
business. This reflects in what is happening. | :15:13. | :15:31. | |
A mum reportedly going to pick up her kids from school. She's a normal | :15:32. | :15:37. | |
woman trying to get on with her life. Life.. Their parents must have | :15:38. | :15:42. | |
been really worried about them. They were fantastic in spirit. Sipping, | :15:43. | :15:45. | |
wavings to us. It was great to have them there. It is very important | :15:46. | :15:49. | |
everything carries on as usual. People still visit and London is | :15:50. | :15:54. | |
open. But I think what we have to reflect on is because of the police, | :15:55. | :16:00. | |
they are our human shield and they protect us so we can do this work as | :16:01. | :16:04. | |
MPs that we are able to carry on. It is very touching. I really feel for | :16:05. | :16:08. | |
these guys this morning who've lost one of their own and everybody in | :16:09. | :16:13. | |
the Westminster village feels that. It is very important we pay tribute, | :16:14. | :16:18. | |
the most important people today are the families of those victims. PC | :16:19. | :16:26. | |
Keith Palmer and his family. Important messages have come from | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
people like Brendan Brendan Cox who lost Jo last year. They've | :16:31. | :16:34. | |
experienced the biggest loss. You're on your way to the House of Commons | :16:35. | :16:37. | |
now. We're expecting the Prime Minister to give a statement in | :16:38. | :16:40. | |
about ten minutes' or so time. You'll be walking back up there into | :16:41. | :16:46. | |
a street which is cordoned off. A street which is quiet compared to a | :16:47. | :16:50. | |
normal Thursday morning. What would you like to hear from the Prime | :16:51. | :16:56. | |
Minister this morning? She will pay respects to those who've died. We | :16:57. | :17:01. | |
will pay our respects in a minute's silence. It is time to pause for | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
reflection on the work the security service do to protect us every day. | :17:07. | :17:11. | |
They run towards shots. We run away from them, if anything. Every day | :17:12. | :17:15. | |
we're in there, we speak to these people, talk to them, say good | :17:16. | :17:18. | |
morning to them. I think, at the back of your mind, you always know | :17:19. | :17:22. | |
that something like this can happen. At the back of your mind sub | :17:23. | :17:27. | |
consciously. Today, a day we half expected has occurred. I want to | :17:28. | :17:32. | |
hear from the Prime Minister a pause. I don't want to see a knee | :17:33. | :17:36. | |
jerk reaction. Do you mean in terms of security? I think so. Changing | :17:37. | :17:40. | |
the way we live our lives? Completely. I don't think we'd hear | :17:41. | :17:46. | |
that today. It will be a reflection, on update on the security situation, | :17:47. | :17:50. | |
the investigation on the latest we know that she can explain. I think | :17:51. | :17:55. | |
she'll read the public mood which is one of reflection and thinking about | :17:56. | :17:59. | |
those who've lost their lives and where we go from here in a positive | :18:00. | :18:04. | |
and practical way. How important is to you both as politicians that the | :18:05. | :18:08. | |
House of Commons stays relatively open? Clearly, there's airport-style | :18:09. | :18:12. | |
security, concrete bollards outside. All those things you'd expect. But | :18:13. | :18:17. | |
it's full of members of the public in there? That's right. The most | :18:18. | :18:21. | |
important thing is we keep access. We all though that was important | :18:22. | :18:25. | |
after we lost Jo last year. We've carried on with extra security. | :18:26. | :18:30. | |
Seeing our constituents, doing our campaigning work. It is important | :18:31. | :18:36. | |
Parliament reflects the way wee behave in our constituencies. We did | :18:37. | :18:41. | |
have that cordon of police. Amazing emergency services people. People | :18:42. | :18:46. | |
ran over from St Thomas' Hospital. We have remarkable capacity to cope. | :18:47. | :18:49. | |
Westminster are a village. We'll pull together. There is a really | :18:50. | :18:53. | |
important message in the fact we're back there this morning working. It | :18:54. | :18:58. | |
is a balancing act. When people from my constituency come down to visit, | :18:59. | :19:02. | |
I say, this is your place. It is a people's palace. We work here but | :19:03. | :19:07. | |
you own it. That mustn't change. We've already seen changing over the | :19:08. | :19:13. | |
years from very little security. We now see bollards, gates, armed | :19:14. | :19:16. | |
police which are there permanently now. We've seen chose changing. If | :19:17. | :19:21. | |
there needs for a few changes, that's acceptable. But the principle | :19:22. | :19:27. | |
of people being able to come in as the public and enjoy what is their | :19:28. | :19:31. | |
palace is right and proper. That needs to happen. Thank you very | :19:32. | :19:38. | |
much. I better let you go. Two Labour MPs on their way to the House | :19:39. | :19:45. | |
of Commons to hear Theresa May before she gives her statement to | :19:46. | :19:51. | |
the Commons and tries to sum up the mood of a nation, as well as paying | :19:52. | :19:57. | |
tribute to those who lost their lives, including 48-year-old PC | :19:58. | :20:03. | |
Keith Palmer who we know was a husband, a dad, who'd served in the | :20:04. | :20:08. | |
Metropolitan Police for over ten years. We'll take you live to the | :20:09. | :20:12. | |
House of Commons, of course, at 10.30 as you'd expect ahead of that | :20:13. | :20:15. | |
statement from Theresa May. We can talk now to the former Mayor of | :20:16. | :20:23. | |
London, Ken Livingstone. Who was the mayor during the 7/7 attacks. What's | :20:24. | :20:28. | |
your attitude this morning? The important thing is Londoners | :20:29. | :20:31. | |
shouldn't Czech the way we live our lives or turn against each other. | :20:32. | :20:39. | |
That's what the terrorists want. More security, more surveillance, | :20:40. | :20:44. | |
all that can go over the top. The simple fact is we stop almost every | :20:45. | :20:51. | |
terrorist attack. Only about one every three or four years gets | :20:52. | :20:54. | |
through. We've very good Sir veilance. A terrorist like this, | :20:55. | :21:00. | |
most probably an individual acting on their own, it is very difficult | :21:01. | :21:05. | |
to get hold of them. Most of the terror attacks have been that. An | :21:06. | :21:09. | |
individual. Not someone taking direct orders from Isis in | :21:10. | :21:13. | |
Afghanistan or something. We heard from Mark Rowley, Acting Deputy | :21:14. | :21:18. | |
Commissioner for the Metropolitan Police, since the killing of Lee | :21:19. | :21:23. | |
Rigby outside his barracks in May 2013, the Metropolitan Police | :21:24. | :21:28. | |
counter-terrorism officers have thwart 13 terrorists attacks. | :21:29. | :21:32. | |
Potential terrorist attacks. It's important to keep perspective, isn't | :21:33. | :21:38. | |
it? Absolutely. It was very much like that in the immediate aftermath | :21:39. | :21:43. | |
of the terrorist attacks in 2005. The police were still able to stop | :21:44. | :21:49. | |
two or three attempts a year. It isn't justice lambic | :21:50. | :21:52. | |
fundamentalists. We found extreme far right groups that were | :21:53. | :21:55. | |
stockpiling weapons and things like that. We've been able to stop them | :21:56. | :22:00. | |
as well. I'm going to bring in Jackaway Puttnam. Come round here. | :22:01. | :22:09. | |
Come in. Jackie is a survivor of the London bombings in July 2005. | :22:10. | :22:13. | |
Goodness, how were you feeling yesterday? Terrible. I was working | :22:14. | :22:21. | |
not too far from here. Saw it on the news. And it felt as if it was | :22:22. | :22:28. | |
happening again. What I was thinking was what I'm sure lots of us were | :22:29. | :22:33. | |
thinking, which was oh, no, not again. It surprised me because we're | :22:34. | :22:43. | |
11 years on. You think you're doing fine, everything's wonderful, you've | :22:44. | :22:46. | |
got it all under control. Then it takes the legs out from under you | :22:47. | :22:51. | |
again. I know that you're on a WhatsApp group with other survivors | :22:52. | :22:57. | |
from 7/7. I'm guessing there were messages going around amongst you? | :22:58. | :23:01. | |
Absolutely. Everyone wanted to check where everyone was. Is everyone OK. | :23:02. | :23:06. | |
People were posting in, yes, I'm feeling like this. The warmth of it | :23:07. | :23:14. | |
was tremendous. It made such a difference to know there were people | :23:15. | :23:18. | |
who were... It was like, just the comfort of it. Support group. It was | :23:19. | :23:24. | |
huge. I'm hearing police are now saying they have made eight arrests. | :23:25. | :23:29. | |
We were reporting earlier it was seven. We're told from the | :23:30. | :23:34. | |
Metropolitan Police they have made eight arrests in connection with | :23:35. | :23:37. | |
what happened at Westminster yesterday. Jackie, you're back here | :23:38. | :23:42. | |
today. You work not far from here. You're here. That's an amazing | :23:43. | :23:47. | |
thing? Well, it's a fight I fight every day. Really? Some days are | :23:48. | :23:54. | |
worse than others. Most day are fine. The first battle I had to | :23:55. | :24:00. | |
fight was get back on the Underground. I needed to take | :24:01. | :24:03. | |
control back. Decisions I wanted to make about my life were my decisions | :24:04. | :24:08. | |
to make not anyone else's. So I had to get that back. It's taken a very | :24:09. | :24:14. | |
long time. You do it to begin with minute by minute. Those minutes get | :24:15. | :24:21. | |
longer. There is help. There is tremendous amount of help out there. | :24:22. | :24:26. | |
Can I mention Tim, Harry Jonathan bawl foundation for peace who | :24:27. | :24:32. | |
specialise in - they were formed after the Warrington bombings by | :24:33. | :24:38. | |
Colin and Wendy Parry. They support people who've suffered from | :24:39. | :24:40. | |
terrorism and support the families. There is support out there for | :24:41. | :24:46. | |
people who suffered yesterday. In terms of your psychological recovery | :24:47. | :24:51. | |
from that day back in 2005 to now, where would you say, Jackie, if you | :24:52. | :24:57. | |
don't mind me asking, you are at? I'm functioning. There are days when | :24:58. | :25:03. | |
obviously there's a lot of time when you don't think about it. Times like | :25:04. | :25:08. | |
yesterday, when it suddenly seems as if it wasn't ten years ago, it's | :25:09. | :25:14. | |
still going on. It's, time telescopes for you in those moments. | :25:15. | :25:19. | |
I have to say, when the survivors meet and get together we don't talk | :25:20. | :25:23. | |
about it unless somebody's having a bad time. It's not a hug-fest have | :25:24. | :25:35. | |
you see what I mean. We meet for drinks, males, go to weddings. | :25:36. | :25:39. | |
Babies have been born. It's wonderful. They're my second family. | :25:40. | :25:44. | |
They're my extended family. It's about the future. It's not about | :25:45. | :25:50. | |
what happened. But it's a long road. A long road to travel. There are | :25:51. | :25:53. | |
people who suffer terribly yesterday. My heart goes out to | :25:54. | :25:59. | |
them. The families. There is support there. Post-traumatic stress cannot | :26:00. | :26:07. | |
necessarily kick in straightaway. You may think you're fine. Sometimes | :26:08. | :26:13. | |
it can take years. But then you do get the effects and it is, there is | :26:14. | :26:18. | |
help out there. You don't have to live with it the way soldiers used | :26:19. | :26:27. | |
to in the past. There's help and it can be, my therapist says it can be | :26:28. | :26:33. | |
fixed. We're competingness against the helicopter above us. What | :26:34. | :26:36. | |
happened here will be reported aren't the world. The iconic Big | :26:37. | :26:42. | |
Ben, the palace of Westminster, Westminster Bridge, those images | :26:43. | :26:45. | |
have gone around the world, of course. London is safe. That is the | :26:46. | :26:51. | |
message that has to be got out there? It axe luteally is. My | :26:52. | :26:56. | |
parents went through the Second World War. The Nazis were bombing | :26:57. | :26:59. | |
London, killing hundreds of people every night. It didn't break our | :27:00. | :27:05. | |
will. We went on to defeat them. No amount of attacks here can change | :27:06. | :27:08. | |
the way we are or, in the end, defeat us. What are you expecting to | :27:09. | :27:13. | |
hear? What do you want to hear from the Prime Minister when she makes | :27:14. | :27:17. | |
her statement in the Commons? The most important thing is to look at | :27:18. | :27:22. | |
the success in the aftermath of the 7 selfen bombings. Not a single | :27:23. | :27:26. | |
Muslim was attacked. No police record of a single incident. What | :27:27. | :27:33. | |
the Muslims who did that attack wanted, was us to attack Muslims, | :27:34. | :27:38. | |
divide us. There was no recorded incidence. No-one daubed a mosque or | :27:39. | :27:41. | |
anything. That's the important thing. We stand together. People who | :27:42. | :27:46. | |
come to our country come because of our values, freedom and democracy. | :27:47. | :27:50. | |
Not to change it. We're seeing live pictures of the House of Commons | :27:51. | :27:53. | |
now. We are expecting to hear from the Prime Minister, Theresa May, | :27:54. | :27:57. | |
very shortly. As soon as she begins speaking, of course, you will be | :27:58. | :27:59. | |
able to hear what she says live. Jackie, thanks for talking to us and | :28:00. | :28:13. | |
Ken Livingstone, former Mayor of London, the mayor of this capital | :28:14. | :28:18. | |
city during the July the 7th bombings in 2005. We expect the | :28:19. | :28:24. | |
Prime Minister to speak in the next minute. Norman Smith, from what | :28:25. | :28:31. | |
Theresa May said last night, she is in defiant made? She is and it is | :28:32. | :28:37. | |
striking that the Commons chamber is more full than often on Thursday | :28:38. | :28:42. | |
mornings when it can be relatively quiet and that reflects the fact | :28:43. | :28:46. | |
many MPs deliberately want to be seen to be there as there being | :28:47. | :28:53. | |
reports of MPs cancelling trips away to make sure they can be their for | :28:54. | :28:56. | |
the statement from Theresa May and just to show Parliament continues | :28:57. | :29:03. | |
despite yesterday's outrage. The only difference was the minute's | :29:04. | :29:08. | |
silence, beginning with the division bell sounding so that everyone in | :29:09. | :29:12. | |
the Palace of Westminster knew it was about to take place. We went | :29:13. | :29:19. | |
into questions to Liam Fox, who made opening remarks about how the attack | :29:20. | :29:25. | |
underlined the need for MPs and people who work here to reaffirm the | :29:26. | :29:29. | |
values of democracy and then we were straight into business as usual with | :29:30. | :29:33. | |
questions about trade with Israel, what it will mean if we leave the EU | :29:34. | :29:41. | |
and rely on WTO terms. I think Mrs May is coming into the chamber to | :29:42. | :29:49. | |
make a statement. A police officer, PC Keith Palmer, was killed | :29:50. | :29:54. | |
defending us, defending Parliament, and defending Parliamentary | :29:55. | :30:00. | |
democracy. Arrangements have been made for books of condolence in the | :30:01. | :30:06. | |
library and Westminster Hall. Our hearts go out to all those directly | :30:07. | :30:12. | |
and indirectly touched by yesterday's events. I should like to | :30:13. | :30:21. | |
thank all colleagues, staff of the house, and members' staff for their | :30:22. | :30:26. | |
forbearance in stressful circumstances yesterday. Naturally, | :30:27. | :30:32. | |
the Parliamentary security authorities have taken measures to | :30:33. | :30:37. | |
ensure Parliament is safe in the light of the attack. In due time, | :30:38. | :30:44. | |
the commission that I chair will consider together with our Lord's | :30:45. | :30:49. | |
counterparts what sort of review of lessons learned would be | :30:50. | :30:55. | |
appropriate. However, let the security personnel who protect us, | :30:56. | :31:00. | |
police security officers and doorkeepers, be in no doubt | :31:01. | :31:07. | |
whatsoever as to our profound appreciation of the way in which | :31:08. | :31:14. | |
they discharged their duties yesterday. Matched by other staff of | :31:15. | :31:20. | |
the house. That means that this morning, the house has been able to | :31:21. | :31:27. | |
resume its business undeterred. Border. | :31:28. | :31:34. | |
Statement, the Prime Minister. Mr Speaker, yesterday, an act of | :31:35. | :31:40. | |
terrorism tried to silence our democracy. But today we meet as | :31:41. | :31:46. | |
normal. As generations have done before us and as future generations | :31:47. | :31:50. | |
will continue to do, to deliver a simple message. We are not afraid. | :31:51. | :31:56. | |
Our resolve will never waver in the face of terrorism. We meet here in | :31:57. | :32:01. | |
the oldest of all parliaments because we know democracy and the | :32:02. | :32:06. | |
values it entails will always prevail. Those values, free speech, | :32:07. | :32:16. | |
liberty, human rights and the rule of law are embodied here in this | :32:17. | :32:20. | |
place. That they are shared by free people around the world. A terrorist | :32:21. | :32:28. | |
came to the place where people of all nationalities and cultures | :32:29. | :32:32. | |
gather to celebrate what it means to be free and he took out his rage | :32:33. | :32:36. | |
indiscriminately against innocent men, women and children. This was an | :32:37. | :32:43. | |
attack on free people everywhere. And on behalf of the British people, | :32:44. | :32:49. | |
I would like to thank our friends and allies around the world who have | :32:50. | :32:53. | |
made it clear they stand with us at this time. What happened on the | :32:54. | :32:59. | |
streets of Westminster yesterday sickened us all. While there is an | :33:00. | :33:06. | |
ongoing police investigation, the house will understand there are | :33:07. | :33:10. | |
limits to what I can say, but having been updated by police and security | :33:11. | :33:15. | |
officials, let me set out what I can tell the House at this stage. At | :33:16. | :33:22. | |
2:40pm yesterday, a single attacker drove his vehicle at speed into | :33:23. | :33:26. | |
innocent pedestrians crossing Westminster Bridge, killing two | :33:27. | :33:31. | |
people and injuring around 40 more. In addition to 12 Britons admitted | :33:32. | :33:38. | |
to hospital, we know the victims include three French children, two | :33:39. | :33:45. | |
Romanians, four South Koreans, one German, one Polish person, one | :33:46. | :33:53. | |
Irish, one Chinese, one Italian, one American and two Greeks and we are | :33:54. | :33:57. | |
in contact with the countries of those affected. The injured included | :33:58. | :34:02. | |
three police officers who were returning from an event to recognise | :34:03. | :34:08. | |
their bravery. Two of those three remain in a serious condition. The | :34:09. | :34:12. | |
attacker then left the vehicle and approached a police officer at | :34:13. | :34:16. | |
carriage Gates, attacking the officer with a large knife before he | :34:17. | :34:20. | |
was shot dead by an armed police officer. Tragically, 48-year-old PC | :34:21. | :34:29. | |
Keith Palmer was killed. PC Palmer had devoted his life to the service | :34:30. | :34:35. | |
of his country. He had been a member of the Parliamentary and diplomatic | :34:36. | :34:40. | |
protection command for 15 years and a soldier in the Royal Artillery | :34:41. | :34:45. | |
before that. He was a husband and father, killed doing a job he loved. | :34:46. | :34:51. | |
He was every inch a hero. His actions will never be forgotten. I | :34:52. | :34:59. | |
know the house will join me in sending our deepest condolences to | :35:00. | :35:03. | |
his family and to the families and friends of those killed or injured | :35:04. | :35:09. | |
in yesterday's awful attacks. I know also that house will wish to thank | :35:10. | :35:15. | |
those who acted with such speed and professionalism to secure this place | :35:16. | :35:18. | |
and ensure we are able to meet as we are doing today. At 7:30pm, I | :35:19. | :35:26. | |
chaired a meeting of the emergency committee Cobra and will have | :35:27. | :35:31. | |
further briefings and meetings with security today. The threat level to | :35:32. | :35:37. | |
the UK is set that severe, meaning attack is highly likely for | :35:38. | :35:41. | |
sometime. This is the second-highest threat level. The highest level, | :35:42. | :35:46. | |
critical, means there is specific intelligence and attack is imminent. | :35:47. | :35:53. | |
As there is no such intelligence, the independent joint terrorism | :35:54. | :35:55. | |
analysis centre has decided the threat level will not change the | :35:56. | :35:59. | |
light of the attack yesterday. The whole country will want to know who | :36:00. | :36:04. | |
was responsible for this atrocity and the measures we are taking to | :36:05. | :36:08. | |
strengthen security, including here in Westminster. A counterterrorism | :36:09. | :36:15. | |
investigation is already under way. Hundreds of police and security | :36:16. | :36:20. | |
officers have been working through the night to establish everything | :36:21. | :36:24. | |
possible about the attack, including its preparation, motivation and | :36:25. | :36:27. | |
whether there were any associates involved in its planning. While | :36:28. | :36:32. | |
there remained limits on what I can say at this stage, I can confirm | :36:33. | :36:37. | |
overnight police have searched six addresses and made eight at -- | :36:38. | :36:47. | |
arrests in Birmingham and London. It is believed still he acted alone and | :36:48. | :36:51. | |
police have no reason to believe there are further imminent attacks | :36:52. | :36:56. | |
on the public. His identity is known to the police and MI5 and when | :36:57. | :37:02. | |
operational considerations allow, he will be publicly identified. I can | :37:03. | :37:07. | |
confirm he was British-born and that, some years ago, he was once | :37:08. | :37:13. | |
investigated by MI5 in relation to concerns about violent extremism. He | :37:14. | :37:18. | |
was a peripheral figure. The case is historic. He was not part of the | :37:19. | :37:23. | |
current intelligence picture. There was no prior intelligence of his | :37:24. | :37:30. | |
intent or of the plot. Intensive investigations continue. As Acting | :37:31. | :37:34. | |
Deputy Commissioner confirmed last night, our working assumption is the | :37:35. | :37:40. | |
attacker was inspired by Islamist ideology. We know the threat from | :37:41. | :37:46. | |
Islamist terrorism is very real, but while the public should remain | :37:47. | :37:50. | |
vigilant, they should not and will not be cowed by this threat. As | :37:51. | :37:57. | |
Acting Deputy Commissioner has made clear, we are stepping up policing | :37:58. | :38:02. | |
to protect communities across the country and to reassure the public | :38:03. | :38:05. | |
and as a precautionary measure this will mean increasing the number of | :38:06. | :38:10. | |
patrols in cities across the country with more police and armed police on | :38:11. | :38:17. | |
the streets. Since June 2013, our police, security and intelligence | :38:18. | :38:22. | |
agencies have successfully disrupted 13 separate terrorist plots in | :38:23. | :38:27. | |
Britain. Following the 2015 strategic defence and security | :38:28. | :38:31. | |
review, we protected police budgets for counterterrorism and committed | :38:32. | :38:36. | |
to increase spending on counterterrorism by 30% in real | :38:37. | :38:38. | |
terms over the course of this Parliament and over the next five | :38:39. | :38:43. | |
years we will invest an extra 2.5 billion in building the global | :38:44. | :38:51. | |
security and intelligence network, employing 1900 additional staff at | :38:52. | :38:56. | |
MI5 and MI6 and GCHQ and doubling our global network of experts | :38:57. | :39:01. | |
working with priority countries in Europe, the Middle East, Africa and | :39:02. | :39:06. | |
Asia. In terms of security in Westminster, we should be clear | :39:07. | :39:11. | |
first of all that an attacker attempted to break into Parliament | :39:12. | :39:16. | |
and was shot dead within 20 yards of the gate. If his intention was to | :39:17. | :39:21. | |
gain access to this building, we should be clear he did not succeed. | :39:22. | :39:30. | |
The police heroically did their job. But as is routine, the police | :39:31. | :39:33. | |
together with the house authorities are reviewing security of the | :39:34. | :39:39. | |
Parliamentary estate with the Cabinet Office, who have | :39:40. | :39:41. | |
responsibility for the security measures in place. All of us in this | :39:42. | :39:49. | |
house have a responsibility for the security and safety of staff and | :39:50. | :39:52. | |
advice is available for members who need it. Yesterday we saw the worst | :39:53. | :39:59. | |
of humanity, but we will remember the best. We will remember the | :40:00. | :40:04. | |
extraordinary efforts to save the life of PC Keith Palmer, including | :40:05. | :40:08. | |
those by my right honourable friend, the member for Bournemouth East. And | :40:09. | :40:15. | |
we will remember the exceptional bravery of our police, security and | :40:16. | :40:19. | |
emergency services, who once again ran towards the danger, even as they | :40:20. | :40:24. | |
encouraged others to move the other way. On behalf of the whole country, | :40:25. | :40:29. | |
I want to pay tribute to them for the work they have been doing to | :40:30. | :40:33. | |
reassure the public, treat the injured, and bring security back to | :40:34. | :40:38. | |
the streets of our capital city. That they have lost one of their own | :40:39. | :40:42. | |
in the attack only makes their calmness and professionalism all the | :40:43. | :40:50. | |
more remarkable. A lot has been said since Terra struck London yesterday, | :40:51. | :40:54. | |
much more will be said in the coming days. But the greatest response lies | :40:55. | :41:00. | |
not in the words of politicians, but in the everyday actions of ordinary | :41:01. | :41:06. | |
people. Beyond these walls today, in scenes repeated in towns and cities | :41:07. | :41:10. | |
across the country, millions of people are going about their days | :41:11. | :41:15. | |
and getting on with their lives. The streets are as busy as ever, offices | :41:16. | :41:20. | |
full and shops bustling. Millions will be boarding trains and | :41:21. | :41:26. | |
aeroplanes to travel to London and see for themselves the greatest city | :41:27. | :41:30. | |
on earth. It is in these actions, millions of acts of normality, we | :41:31. | :41:36. | |
find the best response to terrorism. A response that denies enemies their | :41:37. | :41:41. | |
victory, that refuses to let them win. That shows we will never give | :41:42. | :41:48. | |
in. A response driven by that same spirit that drove a husband and | :41:49. | :41:53. | |
father to put himself between us and our attacker and to pay the ultimate | :41:54. | :42:00. | |
price. A response that says to the men and women who propagate this | :42:01. | :42:03. | |
hate and evil, you will not defeat us. Mr Speaker, let this be the | :42:04. | :42:10. | |
message from this house and this nation today, our values will | :42:11. | :42:15. | |
prevail. And I commend this statement to the house. | :42:16. | :42:23. | |
Order, colleagues, I am advised we have been joined today by French | :42:24. | :42:30. | |
Foreign Minister who is accompanied by a number of his colleagues and | :42:31. | :42:35. | |
also by the Deputy Foreign Secretary of the right honourable gentleman, | :42:36. | :42:42. | |
sir, we appreciate your presence and you're very fitting display of | :42:43. | :42:47. | |
solidarity with us. Mr Jeremy Corbyn. | :42:48. | :42:56. | |
I'd like to associate myself with the Prime Minister's remarks that | :42:57. | :43:01. | |
she's just made. What happened yesterday within metres of where we | :43:02. | :43:06. | |
sit now was an appalling atrocity. The police are still piecing | :43:07. | :43:10. | |
together what took place. And what lay behind it. It behoves us all not | :43:11. | :43:17. | |
to rush to judgment but to wait for the police to establish the facts, | :43:18. | :43:23. | |
to stay united in our communities and not allow fear or the voices of | :43:24. | :43:31. | |
hatred to divide or cower us. Today, we're united by our humanity and by | :43:32. | :43:39. | |
our democratic values. And by that human impulse of solidarity. To | :43:40. | :43:44. | |
stand together in times of darkness and adversity. Mr Speaker, I | :43:45. | :43:51. | |
expressed my condolences to the family and friends of police officer | :43:52. | :43:55. | |
Keith Palmer who gave his life yesterday in defence of the public | :43:56. | :44:01. | |
and of our democracy we thank the police and security personnel who | :44:02. | :44:04. | |
keep us safe every day on this estate. We especially pay tribute to | :44:05. | :44:10. | |
the bravery of those who took action to stop the perpetrator of | :44:11. | :44:17. | |
yesterday's assault. The police and security staff lost a colleague | :44:18. | :44:21. | |
yesterday and continue to fulfil their duties despite their shock and | :44:22. | :44:26. | |
their grief for their fall yep colleague which many expressed to me | :44:27. | :44:28. | |
late last night when he was talking to them. We see the police and | :44:29. | :44:35. | |
security every day. They are our colleagues, fellow workers, they are | :44:36. | :44:39. | |
friends and neighbours. As the Prime Minister said, when dangerous and | :44:40. | :44:45. | |
violent incidents take place, we all instinctively run away from them for | :44:46. | :44:49. | |
our own safety. The police and emergency services run towards them. | :44:50. | :44:54. | |
We are grateful for the public service yesterday, today and every | :44:55. | :44:58. | |
day that they pull on their uniforms to protect us all. I want also, Mr | :44:59. | :45:05. | |
Speaker, to express our admiration to the honourable member for | :45:06. | :45:08. | |
Bournemouth East whose efforts yesterday deserve special | :45:09. | :45:11. | |
commendation. He used his skill to try and safe life. Innocent people | :45:12. | :45:17. | |
were killed yesterday walking across Westminster Bridge. As many millions | :45:18. | :45:24. | |
of Londoners and tourists have before them and as all of us in this | :45:25. | :45:28. | |
chamber have. As the Prime Minister said, the injured include people of | :45:29. | :45:34. | |
ten nationalities. We send our deepest condolences to their loved | :45:35. | :45:38. | |
once and the loved ones of those still in a very critical condition, | :45:39. | :45:42. | |
including the French schoolchildren so welcome in our capital visiting | :45:43. | :45:50. | |
yesterday from corn co-in Britney. We send our sympathies to them and | :45:51. | :45:53. | |
the people in their town and community. We thank all the | :45:54. | :45:58. | |
dedicated National Health Service staff working to save lives, | :45:59. | :46:04. | |
including all those from St Thomas' Hospital who rushed out O'Straight | :46:05. | :46:07. | |
over to the scene of the incident to try and support and save lives. Many | :46:08. | :46:14. | |
people, Mr Speaker, will have been totally traumatised by yesterday's | :46:15. | :46:18. | |
awful events. Not joust all of us here but watching on television | :46:19. | :46:22. | |
worried for the safety of their friends and loved ones. I ask in | :46:23. | :46:27. | |
this House and the country, please, look after each other. Help one | :46:28. | :46:33. | |
another and think of one another. It is by demonstrating our values | :46:34. | :46:38. | |
solidarity, community, humanity and love, that we will defeat the poison | :46:39. | :46:46. | |
and division of hatred. THE SPEAKER: Prime Minister. First | :46:47. | :46:52. | |
of all may I join the right honourable gentleman in expressing | :46:53. | :46:57. | |
our gratitude to the support and solidarity the French Government | :46:58. | :47:01. | |
have shown us at this time, like other countries on the continent, | :47:02. | :47:05. | |
France itself felt the horror and trauma of terrible terrorist | :47:06. | :47:09. | |
attacks. We're grateful to the French Government for the support | :47:10. | :47:13. | |
they've shown us. The right honourable gentleman is right in his | :47:14. | :47:16. | |
description of the police officers. Every day when they put on that | :47:17. | :47:20. | |
uniform, they don't know what they are going to confront in the course | :47:21. | :47:25. | |
of their duties that day. It is a fact often forgotten when people see | :47:26. | :47:28. | |
the police officer walking on the streets that actually, they do put | :47:29. | :47:32. | |
their lives on the line for our safety and security. They show | :47:33. | :47:36. | |
enormous bravery. We are grateful to them all. We're also grateful, as | :47:37. | :47:40. | |
the right honourable gentleman said, to all those from the emergency | :47:41. | :47:44. | |
services. To those from the hospitals who, and others, who | :47:45. | :47:48. | |
rushed forward to give aid and support to those who had been | :47:49. | :47:52. | |
injured at a time when they knew not what else might be happening in the | :47:53. | :47:57. | |
vicinity and whether they might, themselves, be in danger. Finally, | :47:58. | :48:00. | |
as the right honourable gentleman says, at this time, it is so | :48:01. | :48:04. | |
important we show that it is our values that will prevail. That the | :48:05. | :48:09. | |
terrorists will not win. That we will go about our lives showing that | :48:10. | :48:15. | |
unity of purpose and the values that we share as one nation going forward | :48:16. | :48:20. | |
and ensuring that the terrorists will be defeated. | :48:21. | :48:29. | |
THE SPEAKER: Mr Dominic Greave. I join with my right honourable friend | :48:30. | :48:32. | |
with everyone she said in respect of the deaths and injuries that have | :48:33. | :48:37. | |
taken place. I join with her sending our condolences to the families and | :48:38. | :48:42. | |
also to the injured. My right honourable friend has set exactly | :48:43. | :48:49. | |
the right tone. Those of us who are privy to the information and | :48:50. | :48:52. | |
background of these matters know very well that it is has been little | :48:53. | :48:59. | |
short of a miracle over the course of the last few years we have | :49:00. | :49:03. | |
escaped so lightly from the evil that is, I'm afraid, present in our | :49:04. | :49:09. | |
society and manfests itself in these senseless and hideous acts of | :49:10. | :49:14. | |
violence and evil. We have been very fortunate in that our security | :49:15. | :49:19. | |
services have been immensely diligent and helpful in preventing | :49:20. | :49:23. | |
such attacks. But she may agree with me that the house is going to have | :49:24. | :49:29. | |
to simply be resolute in accepting that such attacks cannot always be | :49:30. | :49:34. | |
prevented. And that we have as a society to accept we are going to | :49:35. | :49:39. | |
have to fight this evil with rational, democratic principles in | :49:40. | :49:42. | |
order to get rid of it and that there are in reality no short cuts | :49:43. | :49:48. | |
that will ever enable us to do that. THE SPEAKER: Prime Minister. I | :49:49. | :49:55. | |
absolutely agree with my right honourable friend. He refers to the | :49:56. | :50:00. | |
number of plots which have been disrupted in recent years. It is | :50:01. | :50:04. | |
easy to forget that when the threat level is at severe, what that means | :50:05. | :50:09. | |
is an attack is highly likely. It is not possible. We live in a free and | :50:10. | :50:13. | |
open country, we live in a democracy. It's not possible to | :50:14. | :50:18. | |
ensure, as he says, that we can prevent any attack from taking place | :50:19. | :50:22. | |
but we can work as hard as our security services and police do, | :50:23. | :50:28. | |
precisely to try to prevent attacks from taking place. They have worked | :50:29. | :50:32. | |
hard. They have been doing a good job and they continue to do a good | :50:33. | :50:37. | |
job in keeping us safe and will do so into the future. If we are to | :50:38. | :50:43. | |
defeat this evil, my right honourable friend is right. We'll | :50:44. | :50:46. | |
defeat it through our democracy and our values. We must defeat, of | :50:47. | :50:53. | |
course, the terrible ideology which leads people to conduct these | :50:54. | :50:58. | |
terrible attacks. May I begin by associating myself and my Ron Habel | :50:59. | :51:02. | |
and right honourable colleagues with everything that has been said by the | :51:03. | :51:05. | |
Prime Minister, the leader of the Labour Party and by you, Mr Speaker. | :51:06. | :51:13. | |
Today of all days, we are reminded notwithstanding our difficulties on | :51:14. | :51:17. | |
political and constitutional issues we, we are as one in democracy, the | :51:18. | :51:23. | |
rule of law and harmonies between people of all faiths and none. May I | :51:24. | :51:31. | |
begin personally by wishing the Home Secretary and Prime Minister well as | :51:32. | :51:36. | |
they deal on our behalf with the aftermath of the appalling | :51:37. | :51:39. | |
indiscriminate terrorist act yesterday. Our hearts go out to the | :51:40. | :51:44. | |
family, friends and colleagues of PC Keith Palmer and all other | :51:45. | :51:50. | |
casualties. We are hugely grateful to all police, security and | :51:51. | :51:52. | |
intelligence staff and first responders who ran towards danger | :51:53. | :51:56. | |
without western for their own safety. I include our colleague | :51:57. | :52:03. | |
Tobias Ellwood. Today is not a day for detailed questions. Will the | :52:04. | :52:08. | |
Prime Minister accept on behalf of the Scottish National Party and no | :52:09. | :52:12. | |
doubt every member of this House, our huge debt of gratitude to all | :52:13. | :52:15. | |
police and security agency staff who are working so hard to keep everyone | :52:16. | :52:20. | |
in the country safe. Does she agree with me, no terrorist outrage is | :52:21. | :52:27. | |
representative of any faith or of any faith community and we recommit | :52:28. | :52:32. | |
ourselves to strengthening the bonds of tolerance and understanding? | :52:33. | :52:37. | |
Finally s it not best to follow the advice of Brendan Cox, the husband | :52:38. | :52:42. | |
of our murdered MP colleague Jo Cox, who has said in the days to come, I | :52:43. | :52:47. | |
hope we will remember the love and bravery of the victim not just the | :52:48. | :52:52. | |
hatred and cowardice of the attacker. May I thank the right | :52:53. | :52:58. | |
honourable gentleman for his words. He absolutely correct. Now is a time | :52:59. | :53:03. | |
for us to come together to promote those values of tolerance and | :53:04. | :53:07. | |
understanding he has referred to. To recognise that what motivates the | :53:08. | :53:14. | |
terrorist is a warped ideology and a desire to destroy the values that we | :53:15. | :53:19. | |
share and the values that underpins our democracy. Those values of the | :53:20. | :53:25. | |
rule of law of human rights, of tolerance and understanding and | :53:26. | :53:30. | |
democracy itself. We should be at one in ensuring those values | :53:31. | :53:33. | |
prevail. Finally, as he says, we should remember the bravery of the | :53:34. | :53:38. | |
victims and the bravery of those who keep us safe day in and day out. | :53:39. | :53:45. | |
THE SPEAKER: Mr Iain Duncan Smith. Mr Speaker, may I commend my right | :53:46. | :53:49. | |
honourable friend's powerful statement. I add my prayers to those | :53:50. | :53:54. | |
of hers for those who have died and who are suffering. Also, | :53:55. | :54:00. | |
particularly, for Keith Palmer, our wonderful and brave police officer. | :54:01. | :54:05. | |
We have faced such threats before. By those of twisted and violent | :54:06. | :54:09. | |
ideologies and the broken stones of the arch that we enter through on a | :54:10. | :54:15. | |
daily basis bear testament to time and again. They have failed. They | :54:16. | :54:19. | |
will always fail because we are a beacon of freedom in this place. | :54:20. | :54:24. | |
That is why they target us. But as they fail, may I urge my right | :54:25. | :54:29. | |
honourable friend to ensure that as we extoll our righteous defiance in | :54:30. | :54:36. | |
the face of such evil, we also lace it with compassion, tolerance and | :54:37. | :54:43. | |
hope. Well, I absolutely share the thoughts that my right honourable | :54:44. | :54:46. | |
friend has set out. He is right, this place is a beacon of freedom. | :54:47. | :54:51. | |
We should never forget that. We should be absolutely resolute in our | :54:52. | :54:55. | |
determination to defeat this evil. But we should also be optimistic and | :54:56. | :55:00. | |
hopeful for our democracy and our society in the future. | :55:01. | :55:05. | |
THE SPEAKER: Mr Tim Farron. Thank you. Can I thank the Prime Minister | :55:06. | :55:09. | |
for her statement and early sight of it. Can I also thank her for her | :55:10. | :55:15. | |
words from the steps of 10 Downing Street last Knight. They were | :55:16. | :55:21. | |
unifying and defiance. She did speak for us all. We know the police keep | :55:22. | :55:25. | |
us safe. Yesterday, in the most shocking of ways, we saw how true | :55:26. | :55:32. | |
that really is. In my prayers are Keith Palmer, his family and all the | :55:33. | :55:36. | |
victims of yesterday's outrage. They will continue to be there. We are | :55:37. | :55:41. | |
beyond thankful to the police, the NHS, emergency services, actually, | :55:42. | :55:44. | |
to the staff of this House in keeping us safe and being so utterly | :55:45. | :55:51. | |
dedicated to their roles. Those who attack us hate our freedom, our | :55:52. | :55:57. | |
peaceful democracy, our love of country, our tolerance, openness and | :55:58. | :56:03. | |
unity. As we work to unravel how this unspeakable attack happened, | :56:04. | :56:07. | |
will she agree with me that we must not, either in our laws or by our | :56:08. | :56:12. | |
actions curtail these values. Indeed, we should have more of them. | :56:13. | :56:17. | |
I thank the right honourable gentleman for his comments. He is | :56:18. | :56:21. | |
right, of course, as others have said, we should ensure that our | :56:22. | :56:27. | |
values, those values of democracy and tolerance, freedom prevail, it | :56:28. | :56:31. | |
is those values which the terrorists are trying to attack. It is our very | :56:32. | :56:35. | |
way of life that they wish to destroy. That is why it is so | :56:36. | :56:39. | |
important out there, those millions of citizens going about their lives | :56:40. | :56:44. | |
as they would do normally showing, in the very smallst of ways, but | :56:45. | :56:49. | |
each of every one of them, a defiance of the terrorists. | :56:50. | :56:54. | |
THE SPEAKER: Mark Field. Whilst the dreadful events of yesterday took | :56:55. | :56:59. | |
place within the boundaries of my own constituency, the Palace of | :57:00. | :57:02. | |
Westminster is close to the hearts of not just the 650 of us but many | :57:03. | :57:08. | |
millions of our country men and people who live abroad. May I thank | :57:09. | :57:13. | |
the Prime Minister for speaking so eloquently for our nation on the | :57:14. | :57:16. | |
steps of Downing Street yesterday and in the House today. She reminds | :57:17. | :57:21. | |
us all the greatest tribute we collectively can pay to those so | :57:22. | :57:25. | |
tragically murdered is to ensure we go about our business as normally as | :57:26. | :57:30. | |
possible and maintain the values and liberties our forefathers have | :57:31. | :57:37. | |
fought so hard to win on our behalf. I agree with my honourable friend. | :57:38. | :57:41. | |
It is so important we continue to show that we, not just value but | :57:42. | :57:51. | |
espouse in every action embody those pre-Domes and liberties. Those | :57:52. | :57:56. | |
freedoms were hard fought. There are parts of this palace where there | :57:57. | :58:00. | |
have been many arguments in the past about those very freedoms and | :58:01. | :58:05. | |
liberties. We must ensure that they remain and that we show in our | :58:06. | :58:10. | |
actions in our deeds and in our words that they remain at the heart | :58:11. | :58:12. | |
of our democracy. Can I thank the Prime Minister for | :58:13. | :58:22. | |
her words here today and also her words on the steps of Downing Street | :58:23. | :58:27. | |
yesterday. At this very difficult and important time she spoke froth | :58:28. | :58:31. | |
all, so I thank her for that. We are so proud of the bravery of PC Keith | :58:32. | :58:40. | |
Palmer, so grateful for what he did to keep us safe and I would like to | :58:41. | :58:45. | |
add my tribute to all the policing here at Westminster and the | :58:46. | :58:49. | |
parliamentary staff who acted with such calmness and professionalism | :58:50. | :58:53. | |
yesterday, and I would like to pay tribute to the emergency trauma team | :58:54. | :58:57. | |
at Kings College Hospital who are caring the injured. This was an | :58:58. | :59:05. | |
horrific crime and it has cost lives and caused injury, but as an act of | :59:06. | :59:10. | |
terror, it has failed. It has failed because we are here and we are going | :59:11. | :59:15. | |
to go about our business. It has failed because despite the trauma | :59:16. | :59:20. | |
that they witnessed outside their windows, our staff are here and they | :59:21. | :59:24. | |
are getting on with their work. It failed because as the Prime Minister | :59:25. | :59:28. | |
so rightly said, we are not going to allow this to be used as a pretext | :59:29. | :59:45. | |
for division, hatred and Islamophobia. This democracy is | :59:46. | :59:47. | |
strong and this Parliament is robust. This was an horrific crime | :59:48. | :59:50. | |
but as an act of terror, it has failed. The right honourable lady | :59:51. | :59:53. | |
speaks very well and I utterly agree with the words she has spoken. Some | :59:54. | :00:00. | |
of us were present 38 years ago and where nearby when Airey Neave was | :00:01. | :00:06. | |
murdered. The message then was not to condemn a whole group of people. | :00:07. | :00:11. | |
The message I got from my imam was we will always be with those who | :00:12. | :00:16. | |
work for peace. Can I suggest we try and disappoint those who try to | :00:17. | :00:20. | |
calculate the publicity will work in their favour and make sure we work | :00:21. | :00:24. | |
together to disappoint them? My honourable friend makes a very | :00:25. | :00:28. | |
important point. The Metropolitan Police are bringing a number of | :00:29. | :00:31. | |
faith leaders together for a meeting with them today to show the | :00:32. | :00:36. | |
importance of that coming together of faith leaders, and they are, of | :00:37. | :00:50. | |
course, working with communities up and down the country both to | :00:51. | :00:53. | |
reassure, because there will be communities concerned about the | :00:54. | :00:55. | |
possible reaction, that might take place, to reassure those | :00:56. | :00:57. | |
communities, the job of the police is to keep us all safe. Ed Miliband. | :00:58. | :01:02. | |
Can I join others in commending the prime Mr for her statement last | :01:03. | :01:06. | |
night and today. In her tone and substance she has spoken for the | :01:07. | :01:09. | |
whole country and I commend her for it. Can I also echoed those who have | :01:10. | :01:15. | |
said that we must not allow in the coming days and weeks, anyone to try | :01:16. | :01:19. | |
and divide our country on the basis of faith or nationality after these | :01:20. | :01:24. | |
attacks, because the reality is, but across London, across the country, | :01:25. | :01:30. | |
we are a country united against these attacks. That is who we are. | :01:31. | :01:36. | |
The right honourable gentleman was absolutely right. The country is | :01:37. | :01:40. | |
united. People of all faiths and none are going about their business | :01:41. | :01:44. | |
in defiance of the terrorists. They have a very clear message, they will | :01:45. | :01:49. | |
not be cowed and this is a message the House gives very clearly today, | :01:50. | :01:53. | |
that this country will not be cowed by these terrorists. | :01:54. | :02:00. | |
Theresa Villiers. I to send my sympathies to all those bereaved in | :02:01. | :02:03. | |
yesterday's horrific attack. And as we reflect on what happened, | :02:04. | :02:29. | |
is it time to consider whether the police who guard sensitive sites | :02:30. | :02:31. | |
known to be of interest to terrorists, like Parliament or a | :02:32. | :02:33. | |
airport is, should routinely carry personal protection weapons, even | :02:34. | :02:35. | |
when those offices are not part of the units formerly tasked with armed | :02:36. | :02:38. | |
response? Over the 20 years since I have been in this House, the level | :02:39. | :02:40. | |
of security has been enhanced significantly and the number of | :02:41. | :02:42. | |
offices on the parliamentary estate has been enhanced significantly. As | :02:43. | :02:45. | |
to whether offices are routinely armed, that is an operational matter | :02:46. | :02:50. | |
for the police themselves. They are the best able to judge the | :02:51. | :02:55. | |
circumstances in which it is best for individuals to have those arms. | :02:56. | :03:01. | |
But of course, we have seen a significant increase in the number | :03:02. | :03:06. | |
of armed response vehicles, specialist firearms officers and | :03:07. | :03:09. | |
counterterrorism officers. It is a sad reflection that it is necessary | :03:10. | :03:16. | |
to do that. The question that my right honourable friend specifically | :03:17. | :03:18. | |
raises is really an operational matter for the police. Mr Nigel | :03:19. | :03:25. | |
Dodds. Can I to commend the prime Mr for her words last evening and today | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
and she spoke for the entire country. PC Keith Palmer was and is, | :03:30. | :03:36. | |
and his colleagues are the reason we are here today and any other day, | :03:37. | :03:40. | |
and he embodied the rule of law which we stand for. He stood in | :03:41. | :03:44. | |
harms way for all of us and we remember and pray for his family and | :03:45. | :03:48. | |
all those victims who suffered yesterday and the Arriva. We must | :03:49. | :03:54. | |
remember as well the bravery and always will of the emergency | :03:55. | :03:59. | |
services and the parliamentary staff, and the decency of the | :04:00. | :04:08. | |
ordinary members of the public who rushed to help and our right | :04:09. | :04:11. | |
honourable friend, the member for Bournemouth East. We must uphold the | :04:12. | :04:15. | |
values of this place. The democratic values we have learned in Northern | :04:16. | :04:20. | |
Ireland, is the way to overcome terrorism is working together | :04:21. | :04:22. | |
politically and in every other way to ensure that our democratic | :04:23. | :04:27. | |
values, the rule of law, human rights are all upheld in every way | :04:28. | :04:31. | |
that they can and we must rededicate ourselves to that in the future. I | :04:32. | :04:37. | |
absolutely agree with the right honourable gentleman. We are able to | :04:38. | :04:40. | |
be here today because of the bravery of our police officers. He also | :04:41. | :04:44. | |
refers rightly to mothers of the emergency services and the public | :04:45. | :04:50. | |
and the staff of this House and Parliament, who calmly went about | :04:51. | :04:54. | |
their job to end sure that everybody was safe yesterday. And as he has | :04:55. | :04:59. | |
said, and he has referred to the experience in Northern Ireland, the | :05:00. | :05:03. | |
way to defeat terrorism is by working together and by upholding | :05:04. | :05:07. | |
our democratic values. As a backbencher is seems to me that | :05:08. | :05:16. | |
both the Prime Minister and the leaders of the opposition parties | :05:17. | :05:19. | |
have set exactly the right tone today and proven it is values which | :05:20. | :05:21. | |
unite this kingdom. When this chamber was completely destroyed in | :05:22. | :05:25. | |
the war, Mr Churchill and Mr Attlee decided not a single day would pass | :05:26. | :05:30. | |
without us carrying on our work. The Prime Minister showed today and her | :05:31. | :05:33. | |
opposite number has shown today that the best way to defeat terrorism is | :05:34. | :05:37. | |
to prove that we will not be moved from our values and our place. My | :05:38. | :05:42. | |
honourable friend is absolutely right. He refers to a specific | :05:43. | :05:49. | |
example in the past when once again Parliament upheld our democracy, and | :05:50. | :05:54. | |
showed our values in the face of evil and we continue to do it today. | :05:55. | :06:01. | |
Mr Alan Johnson. The Prime Minister is dealing with this outrage in a | :06:02. | :06:07. | |
calm and assured way. Does she agree with me that an effective | :06:08. | :06:12. | |
counterterrorism strategy, designed to prepare, protect and pursue would | :06:13. | :06:17. | |
be inadequate without the strand of prevent? And in that vein, will she | :06:18. | :06:25. | |
assure the House that across all 43 constabularies, there will be | :06:26. | :06:29. | |
neighbourhood policing teams visible to and contactable by the public, | :06:30. | :06:35. | |
which is a crucial strand in feeding information on terrorism to the | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
counterterrorism organisations? The right honourable gentleman was | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
right, and as he will know from his experience, our counterterrorism | :06:45. | :06:46. | |
strategy does indeed embody those four pillars within it, including | :06:47. | :06:50. | |
the pillar of prevent. And the action that is taken to prevent | :06:51. | :06:55. | |
terrorism, to prevent violent extremism and prevent extremism will | :06:56. | :07:01. | |
come in many forms. What is important, of course, is that | :07:02. | :07:03. | |
individuals within communities feel they are able to give information | :07:04. | :07:08. | |
when they are concerned about somebody within their community or | :07:09. | :07:11. | |
concerned about somebody perhaps within their family and what is | :07:12. | :07:14. | |
happening to them and it is important that there are those | :07:15. | :07:17. | |
opportunities for them, and there will be a variety of means. Some | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
through policing, some through other opportunities where people can go | :07:22. | :07:24. | |
and give that information, not just to the protection of us all but to | :07:25. | :07:29. | |
the benefit of the individual concerned. | :07:30. | :07:32. | |
May I commend the Prime Minister on her very fitting statement. When | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
police officers die, they leave behind husbands, wives, sons and | :07:38. | :07:42. | |
daughters. The police dependents' trust was set up to support the | :07:43. | :07:45. | |
dependence of police officers killed or injured on duty following the | :07:46. | :07:50. | |
brutal murder of three police officers in Shepherd's Bush in 1966. | :07:51. | :07:55. | |
With the prime Mr join me in encouraging people to donate to the | :07:56. | :08:03. | |
police dependents' trust? I am very happy to encourage people to do | :08:04. | :08:09. | |
exactly as my honourable friend has suggested. It is a valuable | :08:10. | :08:15. | |
organisation providing help and support. The families who are left | :08:16. | :08:20. | |
behind have to live forever with what for us has been an act of | :08:21. | :08:24. | |
bravery for their family member, but for them is a tragedy and a trauma. | :08:25. | :08:33. | |
Yvette Cooper. I to welcome the Prime Minister's words as she speaks | :08:34. | :08:36. | |
for all of us with the backing of all parties today, and she was right | :08:37. | :08:41. | |
to say this was an attempted attack on parliament and democracy, that | :08:42. | :08:47. | |
failed because of the bravery of PC Keith Palmer, who gave his life | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
doing a job with others to keep people safe. It was also an | :08:52. | :08:58. | |
attempted violent cowardly attack on our freedom, by mowing down people | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
who were just walking along a bridge. As our hearts go out to | :09:03. | :09:07. | |
them, would she agree that that attack on freedom also fails, not | :09:08. | :09:11. | |
just because of communities' resilience and determination, but | :09:12. | :09:15. | |
also perhaps because of the unique partnership we have in this country | :09:16. | :09:19. | |
between the police and communities of all faiths across all parts of | :09:20. | :09:23. | |
the country, and that partnership working will be crucial to making | :09:24. | :09:30. | |
sure the terrorists never win. The right honourable lady is right. It | :09:31. | :09:35. | |
was a cowardly attack as she said. Parliament has particularly focused | :09:36. | :09:40. | |
on the attempt to attack here in parliament, but the mowing down of | :09:41. | :09:45. | |
innocent men, women and children, who were just going about their | :09:46. | :09:48. | |
business in a variety of ways, but many of whom had come here as | :09:49. | :09:54. | |
tourists to enjoy the great delights of this wonderful city, was an | :09:55. | :09:57. | |
absolutely cowardly and appalling act, and we do need to ensure, we | :09:58. | :10:03. | |
have I think a unique bond between our police and their communities, | :10:04. | :10:07. | |
and that is important that that partnership and that bond continues. | :10:08. | :10:15. | |
Mr Philip Davies. Can I commend the Prime Minister's statement and can I | :10:16. | :10:19. | |
commend the Prime Minister for her reassuring dignity and resolve that | :10:20. | :10:24. | |
she showed. She has shown why she is proving to be a good Prime Minister | :10:25. | :10:28. | |
and why we are proud to have her as our Prime Minister. Of course, our | :10:29. | :10:32. | |
hearts go out to the victims and we honour the police who risked their | :10:33. | :10:38. | |
lives every day to keep us safe and unfortunately, too often give up | :10:39. | :10:43. | |
their lives to keep us safe. Can the Prime Minister assure us that she | :10:44. | :10:46. | |
will make sure the police forces up and down the country and the | :10:47. | :10:50. | |
security services will always have the resources that they need in | :10:51. | :10:55. | |
order to carry out their job of keeping us all safe? I thank my | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
honourable friend for his comments. And indeed, as I indicated in | :11:00. | :11:04. | |
Maesteg and, we have taken steps to enhance resources available for our | :11:05. | :11:09. | |
security and intelligence agencies, and to protect the resources | :11:10. | :11:14. | |
available for our police forces, particularly working in the | :11:15. | :11:17. | |
counterterrorism area. We have looked in recent times to increase, | :11:18. | :11:23. | |
as I indicated earlier, the number of armed response vehicles | :11:24. | :11:26. | |
available, and that is not just here but in other parts of the country as | :11:27. | :11:31. | |
well. Of course, we constantly look at making sure our response is | :11:32. | :11:36. | |
appropriate, but we are very conscious of the job that our police | :11:37. | :11:42. | |
do day in, day out and we give them the support that they need. | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
I speak for my party Plaid Cymru and also commend the Prime Minister on | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
the words she has given us today. I also want to say that us here today, | :11:53. | :11:58. | |
this is not a show of defiance, it is a show of respect for the dead | :11:59. | :12:03. | |
and the injured. Respect to our duty, respect to democracy and our | :12:04. | :12:08. | |
duty to our constituents. One man cannot shut down a city and one man | :12:09. | :12:13. | |
cannot lock down democracy. Does she also agree that we must not react to | :12:14. | :12:21. | |
such a warped ideology with unworthy responses? I think what is | :12:22. | :12:25. | |
absolutely appropriate is the response that this House has shown | :12:26. | :12:29. | |
today. It has shown gratitude for the bravery of our police and | :12:30. | :12:33. | |
emergency services. It has shown respect and concern for those who | :12:34. | :12:37. | |
have been the victims of the terrible attacks which took place. | :12:38. | :12:42. | |
But also it has shown normality, and I think that is what is important as | :12:43. | :12:49. | |
we defied the terrorists, and as we work to defeat them. Mr Nigel Evans. | :12:50. | :12:55. | |
Mr Speaker, I thank the Prime Minister for her statement. Over 25 | :12:56. | :13:00. | |
years, well, I had been an MP for 25 years, and I have seen the police | :13:01. | :13:04. | |
play many roles around the Palace of Westminster. One is to give advice | :13:05. | :13:08. | |
to members of the public about where to go. On other occasions, none of | :13:09. | :13:13. | |
us can have passed the gates without seeing members of the public having | :13:14. | :13:16. | |
their photographs taken with the police. It is one of the things that | :13:17. | :13:20. | |
they do. And one of the other things they do is to protect our democracy | :13:21. | :13:24. | |
which we saw yesterday with brutal consequences. I'm very proud of the | :13:25. | :13:30. | |
police and everything they do in defending our democracy. Keith | :13:31. | :13:39. | |
Palmer was one of us. The police to protect us one of us. I hope that at | :13:40. | :13:44. | |
one stage, the tribute to Keith and the police that we are here today | :13:45. | :13:50. | |
and our proceedings are going on. We have the arch which has been spoken | :13:51. | :13:54. | |
about the four which is a lasting memorial to those who paid the | :13:55. | :13:59. | |
ultimate sacrifice for our democracy, and I do hope that at an | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
appropriate time, with discussion with the family, that we also may be | :14:05. | :14:07. | |
able to look at a lasting memorial to Keith in order that each and | :14:08. | :14:11. | |
everyone of us know that there are people putting their lives on the | :14:12. | :14:16. | |
line for our democracy today. I thank my honourable friend and I'm | :14:17. | :14:21. | |
sure the House authorities wish to consider the point he has made. If I | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
may reflect on his earlier remarks, I think it is a particular | :14:26. | :14:30. | |
characteristic of policing here in the United Kingdom, that our police | :14:31. | :14:34. | |
are able to have that link and that bond with members of the public, at | :14:35. | :14:38. | |
the same time as they are doing that very difficult job of keeping us | :14:39. | :14:43. | |
safe. We see it so often when major events take place, Royal weddings, | :14:44. | :14:48. | |
the Olympics and so forth, but actually, he is absolutely right, we | :14:49. | :14:53. | |
see it day in, day out here in this parliamentary estate. Mr Hilary | :14:54. | :14:55. | |
Benn. Thank you. As we mourn those who | :14:56. | :15:09. | |
were so cruelly cut down yesterday, give our grateful thanks to the | :15:10. | :15:11. | |
police and the emergency and security services for their | :15:12. | :15:13. | |
exemplary courage and devotion to duty, and show was a country by our | :15:14. | :15:16. | |
determination to carry on, that we will not be cowed, as the prime and | :15:17. | :15:19. | |
the birds are eloquently, does she agree that we will also need to show | :15:20. | :15:24. | |
the same determination to stand up to anyone who seeks to sow division | :15:25. | :15:30. | |
or stir up hatred in the wake of the Howard Lee attacks -- as the Prime | :15:31. | :15:35. | |
Minister put it so eloquently. We must be very clear that the voices | :15:36. | :15:40. | |
of evil and hate must not divide us and that must be a very clear | :15:41. | :15:46. | |
message from this House today. Whilst our hearts go to all those | :15:47. | :15:51. | |
people who were wounded and murdered yesterday and to all the people who | :15:52. | :15:55. | |
sought to help them, with your indulgence I would like to turn for | :15:56. | :15:59. | |
just a moment to PC Keith Palmer who I first met 25 years ago as Gunnar | :16:00. | :16:07. | |
Keith Palmer at headquarters battery 100 Regiment Royal Artillery. He was | :16:08. | :16:12. | |
a strong professional public servant. And it was a delight to | :16:13. | :16:19. | |
meet him here again only a few months after being elected. Would my | :16:20. | :16:27. | |
right honourable friend the Prime Minister, in recognition of the work | :16:28. | :16:34. | |
that he did, and the other police officers and public servants here in | :16:35. | :16:39. | |
the house do, consider recognising his gallantry and sacrifice formally | :16:40. | :16:49. | |
with a posthumous recognition? I thank my honourable friend for the | :16:50. | :16:57. | |
obvious compassion and the passion with which he has spoken about an | :16:58. | :17:02. | |
individual he knew, and he bears witness to the tremendous public | :17:03. | :17:05. | |
service that Keith Palmer has given this country in so many ways, and | :17:06. | :17:09. | |
having served in our Armed Forces, and then come here to this place, | :17:10. | :17:17. | |
and paid the ultimate sacrifice here at our heart of democracy, I can | :17:18. | :17:22. | |
assure my honourable friend that the issue he has raised is of course one | :17:23. | :17:26. | |
which will be considered in due course. Obviously yesterday we saw | :17:27. | :17:37. | |
absolutely the best of security, policing and emergency services, but | :17:38. | :17:41. | |
I would just make a small fleet going forward, yesterday we also saw | :17:42. | :17:45. | |
the camaraderie that got people through the locked down. We had | :17:46. | :17:50. | |
staff stuck in offices all over the estate. As we go forward, if people | :17:51. | :17:56. | |
can take the bravery and determination of yesterday, but | :17:57. | :18:00. | |
remember to talk among themselves, support their staff and not bury any | :18:01. | :18:05. | |
feelings of fear from yesterday, but to let that out, so that there is | :18:06. | :18:16. | |
absolutely no scar remnant within this place as we go forward? The | :18:17. | :18:19. | |
honourable lady has made a very important point. It is too easy for | :18:20. | :18:22. | |
us to come to this chamber, to rightly show the gratitude for the | :18:23. | :18:27. | |
bravery of those who protect us, but to forget that for all our staff who | :18:28. | :18:31. | |
were caught up in this, this could have lasting impacts, and I think it | :18:32. | :18:36. | |
is important that we do make, and I understand that there are moves | :18:37. | :18:39. | |
afoot, to ensure that the staff, as I said in my staff, that members are | :18:40. | :18:45. | |
able to access help and support should they wish to do that. But | :18:46. | :18:48. | |
actually, just allowing people to talk about what happened is often | :18:49. | :18:58. | |
the best remedy. And Mr Speaker, can I thank the Prime Minister for her | :18:59. | :19:01. | |
statement this morning and her message last night in Downing | :19:02. | :19:05. | |
Street? Canales is a former Metropolitan Police officer, pass my | :19:06. | :19:10. | |
condolences personally to Constable Palmer's family and also to the | :19:11. | :19:14. | |
pedestrians and everyone involved yesterday. A summary who served on | :19:15. | :19:18. | |
the counterterrorism command in the 1980s here in London, when the IRA | :19:19. | :19:25. | |
and other Middle Eastern groups were bombing London, I know only too well | :19:26. | :19:30. | |
the challenge which is faced by the police. I know the Prime Minister | :19:31. | :19:34. | |
has already been asked about resourcing, but can I reinforce that | :19:35. | :19:39. | |
by asking that in the area of counterterrorism, that the Met | :19:40. | :19:42. | |
police, indeed all police forces, and the security services generally | :19:43. | :19:50. | |
should want for nothing? I can reassure my honourable friend that | :19:51. | :19:57. | |
we did do this major exercise of looking at the resources that should | :19:58. | :20:01. | |
be available for counterterrorism, across all aspects of dealing with | :20:02. | :20:06. | |
counterterrorism. This is about the security and intelligence agencies | :20:07. | :20:09. | |
and about the police, but also there are other parts of government which | :20:10. | :20:13. | |
have a role to play in counterterrorism as well and extra | :20:14. | :20:17. | |
resources are going in as I indicated in my statement. Of | :20:18. | :20:20. | |
course, we do want to ensure that all those who are involved in acting | :20:21. | :20:23. | |
against terrorism have the support they need to do the job that we want | :20:24. | :20:31. | |
them to do. Could I associate myself with the | :20:32. | :20:35. | |
prime Mr's words and those of my right honourable friend the Leader | :20:36. | :20:39. | |
of the Opposition -- the Prime Minister's words. Would she accept | :20:40. | :20:43. | |
this is not about the personal security of us as members of | :20:44. | :20:51. | |
Parliament or the security of this building. PC Keith Palmer died | :20:52. | :20:57. | |
defending the values of free people everywhere, and isn't the proper | :20:58. | :21:01. | |
response over the coming days, as more facts emerge, that we stand | :21:02. | :21:06. | |
firm for those selfsame values of free people everywhere? The | :21:07. | :21:14. | |
honourable gentleman is absolutely right. It is not about individuals | :21:15. | :21:18. | |
in this House or this building, it is what we stand for and we should | :21:19. | :21:22. | |
stand absolutely firm in those values. | :21:23. | :21:27. | |
May I start off by commending the Prime Minister on a very powerful | :21:28. | :21:31. | |
speech, particularly the tone with which it was delivered. Yesterday, | :21:32. | :21:39. | |
we saw an attack on the centre of democracy, and also an attack on the | :21:40. | :21:43. | |
citizens of ten countries. The message that we need to take away | :21:44. | :21:50. | |
from here is this ideology, this evil ideology is not only an attack | :21:51. | :21:54. | |
on Western countries and the values we hold so dear, but it is an evil | :21:55. | :21:59. | |
which seeks to destroy the way of life across the globe. And I hope | :22:00. | :22:04. | |
that the message will go out to all decent and civilised countries, that | :22:05. | :22:10. | |
we must all redouble our resolve to deal with this evil. I say to my | :22:11. | :22:16. | |
honourable friend that I have been struck by the number of messages I | :22:17. | :22:20. | |
have received, the number of foreign leaders who I have spoken to, who | :22:21. | :22:24. | |
have been absolutely clear at this time that we stand together as he | :22:25. | :22:30. | |
says, in defiance but also in ensuring that we will defeat this | :22:31. | :22:38. | |
evil. Regarding the immense bravery of everyone yesterday, should we not | :22:39. | :22:41. | |
recognise that terror attacks are likely to continue for years to come | :22:42. | :22:48. | |
and this country is not unique, let alone -- in Europe let alone | :22:49. | :22:53. | |
elsewhere, and having onslaughts against them? But regarding what the | :22:54. | :22:57. | |
Prime Minister has just said, can I tell her that during the sustained | :22:58. | :23:00. | |
IRA bombing, I did not receive during all those years as a member | :23:01. | :23:05. | |
of Parliament, I did not receive any letters at all, or anyone come to my | :23:06. | :23:10. | |
surgery telling me that we should change our policy in combating | :23:11. | :23:15. | |
terrorism. And I have to say, it illustrates once again our people | :23:16. | :23:20. | |
are simply not appeasers. The honourable gentleman is right. I | :23:21. | :23:25. | |
believe the British public stand with this parliament in wanting to | :23:26. | :23:30. | |
see us in defiance of the terrorists, defeating the | :23:31. | :23:33. | |
terrorists, and showing that it is the values of democracy and the rule | :23:34. | :23:38. | |
of law, the values of free people everywhere, that underpin our way of | :23:39. | :23:42. | |
life. I think people recognise that and they want to see this House | :23:43. | :23:48. | |
endorsing that. I support all that the Prime | :23:49. | :23:51. | |
Minister has said and done and my thoughts are with all those who have | :23:52. | :23:57. | |
been affected by this evil act. The assistant Police Commissioner in | :23:58. | :24:01. | |
2016 said two people a day are being turned away from extremism, and that | :24:02. | :24:06. | |
it is often members of the individual's on community who are | :24:07. | :24:14. | |
alerting the authorities. Can I ask what further steps we are taking to | :24:15. | :24:17. | |
engage with all our communities so that we can work together to defeat | :24:18. | :24:24. | |
nonviolent extremism which often leads to violent extremism? My | :24:25. | :24:27. | |
honourable friend is right, it is important that we defeat that | :24:28. | :24:31. | |
extremism and deal with it at that early stage, and there is a lot of | :24:32. | :24:37. | |
work that is being done within communities, working with | :24:38. | :24:38. | |
communities. Obviously, there is work that the police do to encourage | :24:39. | :24:43. | |
people within communities to come forward with information, when it is | :24:44. | :24:49. | |
to do so, when they have those concerns, and that is important, | :24:50. | :24:52. | |
that people need to have the confidence of feeling that they can | :24:53. | :24:58. | |
do that and it is important to create the environment within | :24:59. | :25:01. | |
communities when people feel, when there are those who are trying to | :25:02. | :25:08. | |
destroy our way of life, and they feel able to take action about that. | :25:09. | :25:14. | |
But my honourable friend is right, bringing communities together is an | :25:15. | :25:19. | |
important part of the work that the government is doing. I had intended | :25:20. | :25:22. | |
to call another burning a member who has sadly left the chamber. In the | :25:23. | :25:27. | |
absence of that honourable member, let's hear the voice of Jack Dromey. | :25:28. | :25:33. | |
Can I thank the Prime Minister for her leadership in a bleak moment for | :25:34. | :25:38. | |
our country. As a brave guardian of Parliament, Keith Palmer fought for | :25:39. | :25:42. | |
his life yesterday. The right honourable member for Bournemouth | :25:43. | :25:45. | |
East fought to save his life, and can I say about the right honourable | :25:46. | :25:49. | |
member, he is one of Parliament's finest. Can I also ask the Prime | :25:50. | :25:57. | |
Minister this, in backing our police to defeat terrorism, does she | :25:58. | :26:01. | |
believe we should heed their wise words, that to demonise and divide | :26:02. | :26:07. | |
is to play right into the hands of the evil that is terrorism? We | :26:08. | :26:15. | |
should not be it making any attempt to demonise individual communities. | :26:16. | :26:18. | |
What we should recognise is it is individuals who are terrorists, that | :26:19. | :26:24. | |
they are adhering to a warped ideology, warped ideology of evil. | :26:25. | :26:28. | |
And that is true whatever the origin of the terrorism and there are | :26:29. | :26:33. | |
different ideologies and this House has been struck before, as we know, | :26:34. | :26:38. | |
and has felt terrorism of a different sort hitting at a member | :26:39. | :26:43. | |
of this House, so we must make sure we do not demonise communities but | :26:44. | :26:47. | |
we work with them to identify and isolate those who wish to do us | :26:48. | :26:55. | |
harm. Andrew Bridgen. In the wake of yesterday's evil, tragic but not | :26:56. | :26:59. | |
wholly unexpected attack on this place, as the Prime Minister said | :27:00. | :27:02. | |
there will be a review of the response of our excellent police and | :27:03. | :27:07. | |
security services. But does my right honourable friend agree with me, | :27:08. | :27:11. | |
that in an open and free democracy such as ours, there is always going | :27:12. | :27:17. | |
to be a balance between our security and public access and the | :27:18. | :27:20. | |
transparency of our democracy, and if that balance is not maintained, | :27:21. | :27:26. | |
then unfortunately the terrorists will have won? My honourable friend | :27:27. | :27:31. | |
is absolutely right. It is a balance, we live in an open and free | :27:32. | :27:35. | |
democracy. We want members of the public to have access to members of | :27:36. | :27:39. | |
their representatives and four months of this place to have easy | :27:40. | :27:44. | |
access to this place. That is part of how we operate. It is important | :27:45. | :27:48. | |
as we look ahead and we ask that question whether there is anything | :27:49. | :27:51. | |
more that needs to be done, we recognise that we should not in | :27:52. | :27:56. | |
anyway destroy the values that underpin our democracy, because if | :27:57. | :27:59. | |
we do that, as he says, the terrorists will have won. | :28:00. | :28:04. | |
I want to agree with everything that every member has said. But can I add | :28:05. | :28:13. | |
thanks to two more groups of people who haven't been mentioned. The | :28:14. | :28:18. | |
staff at Westminster Abbey who received people who were left from | :28:19. | :28:24. | |
this house and also the firearms officer who actually acted in a way | :28:25. | :28:28. | |
that he had been trained to, but probably never expected to and we | :28:29. | :28:33. | |
owe him our thanks. The Prime Minister knows better than any of us | :28:34. | :28:39. | |
that this sort of attack, it looks like a lone wolf kind of attack, is | :28:40. | :28:45. | |
the hardest for our Security Services to prevent. Its prevention | :28:46. | :28:52. | |
as her remarks have made clear, is best achieved by us celebrating our | :28:53. | :28:56. | |
values. The values which meant that among the victims there were people | :28:57. | :29:01. | |
of eleven different nationalities, our openness, our democracy, what | :29:02. | :29:06. | |
can she do to help ensure that everybody in Britain, every child, | :29:07. | :29:12. | |
everyone of every religion is given the opportunity to learn about those | :29:13. | :29:17. | |
values and to celebrate them, because I think that's the best way | :29:18. | :29:21. | |
to keep us safe. May I join the honourable lady in commending as she | :29:22. | :29:27. | |
has said, the staff of Westminster Abbey, who played a role in | :29:28. | :29:30. | |
supporting people from Parliament yesterday. But also she says the | :29:31. | :29:37. | |
firearms officer. Who acted we know had to make a split second decision | :29:38. | :29:42. | |
about what to do. It is not an easy job. It is difficult. They are | :29:43. | :29:46. | |
trained to do it. But when the point comes, it is a difficult decision to | :29:47. | :29:52. | |
take. But we are grateful that he did that and with the consequences | :29:53. | :29:56. | |
that we know. It is important that we celebrate those values. That is | :29:57. | :30:00. | |
an important element of us countering the extremist is to | :30:01. | :30:06. | |
ensure that the values that we share are championed, but are resolutely | :30:07. | :30:10. | |
put forward. It is for all of us, the honourable lady asks what I can | :30:11. | :30:14. | |
would do, but actually I think it is for everybody in this House as we go | :30:15. | :30:18. | |
about our business as members of Parliament to encourage that | :30:19. | :30:21. | |
celebration of the values that we share. Can I commend my honourable | :30:22. | :30:31. | |
friend for the resolute, brave and courageous way she stood up for our | :30:32. | :30:36. | |
country and how proud we are of her. Does she a I degree with me that one | :30:37. | :30:40. | |
-- agree with me that one terrorist will not destroy our country, ten | :30:41. | :30:50. | |
thousand will not destroy our country, no amount of terrorists | :30:51. | :30:53. | |
will ever destroy our way of life, because they're trying to destroy | :30:54. | :30:58. | |
what we represent, freedom and democracy. My honourable friend is | :30:59. | :31:03. | |
right, terrorism will not destroy our way of life. It will not win. We | :31:04. | :31:10. | |
up hold those values and they underpin our way of life, they are | :31:11. | :31:13. | |
what the terrorists are trying to attack. Ha the terrorists dislike, | :31:14. | :31:21. | |
but we must ensure that we uphold those values and no number of | :31:22. | :31:25. | |
terrorists will defeat this place or defeat those values. PC Keith Palmer | :31:26. | :31:34. | |
didn't return home from work yesterday to his family, so the rest | :31:35. | :31:38. | |
of us in this House could. We should never forget that sacrifice and | :31:39. | :31:42. | |
every day we should pass our thanks to the staff, security of this House | :31:43. | :31:46. | |
and the emergency services. And I wonder if I could ask the Prime | :31:47. | :31:50. | |
Minister to join my in cherishing what happened here yesterday with | :31:51. | :31:55. | |
staff coming to together, who were terrified and all supporting each | :31:56. | :31:59. | |
other and in itself is way to say to terrorism that it will never win. | :32:00. | :32:03. | |
No, I join the honourable gentleman in, as he says, I think the way that | :32:04. | :32:08. | |
people came together, they showed that camaraderie and support each | :32:09. | :32:16. | |
other at what was a difficult time. And that was a very important | :32:17. | :32:22. | |
message to the terrorists. It is reported that what happened | :32:23. | :32:26. | |
yesterday was an act of Islamic terror, will the Prime Minister | :32:27. | :32:30. | |
agree with me that what happened was not Islamic, just as | :32:31. | :32:43. | |
the murder of AirieN Neave was not Christian. Yes it is not Islamic, it | :32:44. | :32:55. | |
is a perversion of a great faith. I would like to pay tribute to the | :32:56. | :33:02. | |
Prime Minister and wish her well and the cabinet well. Can I echo | :33:03. | :33:05. | |
everything that has been said about those who have been killed and their | :33:06. | :33:11. | |
families and the victims. Can I ask the Prime Minister that every effort | :33:12. | :33:16. | |
will be made to support the victims and their families and also the | :33:17. | :33:20. | |
police officer whose role it was to stop the terrorist in the end? I can | :33:21. | :33:24. | |
assure the honourable gentleman that that support will be available. Of | :33:25. | :33:30. | |
course for those who have been affected by the attacks for those | :33:31. | :33:34. | |
who have been injured and the bereaved families, the Metropolitan | :33:35. | :33:38. | |
Police have already in place support arrangement necessary. But I have | :33:39. | :33:42. | |
also asked government to look at what further support can be | :33:43. | :33:45. | |
available for victims in a wider sense. There will be people who may | :33:46. | :33:49. | |
not have been physically injured by the attack yesterday, but perhaps | :33:50. | :33:54. | |
were caught up in it and for whom there may be other scars and it is | :33:55. | :34:00. | |
important we provide that support. Parliament is a very different place | :34:01. | :34:05. | |
this morning. Coming in I realised that millions of people live with | :34:06. | :34:10. | |
the after effects of terrorism avp it was almost within the hour | :34:11. | :34:14. | |
yesterday that in my summing up to the Foreign Office minister, I said | :34:15. | :34:17. | |
I understand his experience of terrorism is something that is not | :34:18. | :34:22. | |
known to the rest of us. I could repeat that assertion again this | :34:23. | :34:25. | |
morning about his experience yesterday afternoon. Does the Prime | :34:26. | :34:28. | |
Minister agree with me that we should use the honours system to | :34:29. | :34:33. | |
recognise those people who made a contribution yesterday, including | :34:34. | :34:38. | |
the member for Bournemouth east. As I have indicated, I think proper | :34:39. | :34:42. | |
consideration will be given to the issue that my honourable friend | :34:43. | :34:46. | |
raises. But if I may just say about my honourable friend the member for | :34:47. | :34:51. | |
Bournemouth East, who I spoke to yesterday, I think we should all | :34:52. | :34:57. | |
recognise that not only did he show huge professionalism in putting his | :34:58. | :35:02. | |
past training to the use and the hope that he had of rescuing the | :35:03. | :35:07. | |
life of PC Keith Palmer, but of course it was in the middle of a | :35:08. | :35:14. | |
terrorist attack and he is somebody who knows the trauma and tragedy of | :35:15. | :35:18. | |
losing somebody in a terrorist attack. I very much associate myself | :35:19. | :35:25. | |
with the statement the Prime Minister and everyone has made. And | :35:26. | :35:33. | |
pay tribute to all of those involved we. Atds the sister of a police | :35:34. | :35:37. | |
officer -- as the sister of a police officer in uniform, none of us know | :35:38. | :35:42. | |
when they go out in the morning what they're going to face. ? I have to | :35:43. | :35:50. | |
say yesterday hit hard for those of us with family in uniform. I'm | :35:51. | :35:58. | |
pleased she will giving help to those affected. When I was Home | :35:59. | :36:03. | |
Secretary, there were two events that brought home the commitment and | :36:04. | :36:07. | |
bravery and dedication of police officers, one was the national | :36:08. | :36:11. | |
police service memorial day when the police recognise those who have | :36:12. | :36:16. | |
fallen and the other was the police bravery awards when groups of police | :36:17. | :36:19. | |
officers are recognised for brave acts they have undertaken. What | :36:20. | :36:26. | |
always struck me and I'm sure other members was the matter of fact way | :36:27. | :36:30. | |
in which our police officers would, whatever they had done, whoever they | :36:31. | :36:37. | |
had dealt with, whatever action they had had to take, whatever injuries | :36:38. | :36:41. | |
they had suffered would just say they were doing their job. We owe | :36:42. | :36:48. | |
them a very great deal. Can I thank the Prime Minister for the tone with | :36:49. | :36:53. | |
which she has reaebgted. She has spoken for the nation in this | :36:54. | :36:58. | |
moment. Yesterday, many of us were gathered in Westminster Abbey, in | :36:59. | :37:02. | |
lock down, in a stunning moment, people from left and right, people | :37:03. | :37:13. | |
from Muslim, Hindu and Christian faiths and none. Could I support | :37:14. | :37:20. | |
those who reminded us this is not a an act of faith, it is an act of | :37:21. | :37:25. | |
distortion of faith and it we will defend the values we cherish. My | :37:26. | :37:29. | |
honourable friend is right, I think it is, it shows the importance of | :37:30. | :37:35. | |
all of our faiths working together and recognising the values that we | :37:36. | :37:39. | |
share and as he says this act of terror was not an act of faith, it | :37:40. | :37:45. | |
was an a perverse, a warped ideology, which leads to an act of | :37:46. | :37:55. | |
terrorism and it will not prevail. My prayers are those who were | :37:56. | :37:58. | |
injured and lost their lives and their family and particularly P | :37:59. | :38:03. | |
xrchlt Keith Palmer, who made the ultimate accusifies. This attacker | :38:04. | :38:08. | |
and -- that he had the ultimate sacrifice. This attacker is not of | :38:09. | :38:13. | |
my religion or community and we should attack all those, because | :38:14. | :38:16. | |
they're not of religion. If they were of religion they wouldn't be | :38:17. | :38:21. | |
carrying acts like this. We have to stay united and show them they can't | :38:22. | :38:25. | |
win on these grounds and we are here to stay. May I commend the | :38:26. | :38:32. | |
honourable gentleman for comments he has made and the stance he has | :38:33. | :38:36. | |
taken. He has been very clear that this is not of his religion. It is a | :38:37. | :38:43. | |
perverse, it is a warped evil mentality that leads to these acts | :38:44. | :38:51. | |
of terror. Could I join in saluting my honourable friend and fellow | :38:52. | :38:56. | |
Dorset member for his bravery yesterday. It is a hall mark of his | :38:57. | :39:03. | |
character, he stands below the bar of the house today. Would he agree | :39:04. | :39:10. | |
with these words written by a worker on the London Underground yesterday | :39:11. | :39:15. | |
and penned on a public notice board, my judgment is he or she speaks for | :39:16. | :39:21. | |
the whole country, irrespective of faith and creed, all terrorists are | :39:22. | :39:26. | |
reminded that this is London and whatever you do to us, we will drink | :39:27. | :39:38. | |
tea and jolly well carry on! I think that is a wonderful tribute and if a | :39:39. | :39:45. | |
very simple way I think has encapsulated everything everybody in | :39:46. | :39:53. | |
this House has said today. Like many members I have walked through the | :39:54. | :39:57. | |
carriage gate and said a small prayer for the safety of those who | :39:58. | :40:01. | |
stand there to protect us and will now add a prayer for the soul of PC | :40:02. | :40:08. | |
Keith Palmer. Among the bravery we saw yesterday and the | :40:09. | :40:13. | |
professionalism and I say this as a former teacher, were the actions of | :40:14. | :40:19. | |
the teacher, both nose those injured in the attack and those kept here in | :40:20. | :40:24. | |
the lock down and kept those children calm on a day they saw, | :40:25. | :40:29. | |
witnessed and heard of things that they should never have to see. The | :40:30. | :40:33. | |
honourable gentleman is right, it is, it must have been particularly | :40:34. | :40:36. | |
difficult for those children who were here and being caught up in | :40:37. | :40:41. | |
this. The work of, we should commend the work of their teachers in | :40:42. | :40:46. | |
offering them that reassurance and calm and recognise particularly the | :40:47. | :40:50. | |
role of the French teachers, of the French group, the last thing you | :40:51. | :40:55. | |
expect when you bring a group of young people to another country is | :40:56. | :40:58. | |
something terrible like that is going to happen. Of course, they | :40:59. | :41:03. | |
would have acted to support and will be continuing to support the other | :41:04. | :41:07. | |
members of that group who have been through this trauma. As we were | :41:08. | :41:15. | |
evacuated yesterday, I too met several school groups who had been | :41:16. | :41:20. | |
involved with visits that had been organised by the Parliamentary | :41:21. | :41:22. | |
education service. Does my honourable friend agree that such | :41:23. | :41:32. | |
visits are vital and help provide an antidote to hatred. Yes and they're | :41:33. | :41:37. | |
important in helping to promote the values we share. The honourable | :41:38. | :41:41. | |
lady, the member for Slough asked me about how we can ensure we promote | :41:42. | :41:46. | |
those values, I think that work that Parliament does in bringing in | :41:47. | :41:48. | |
children and showing them the work of Parliament and values of our | :41:49. | :41:52. | |
democracy is an important part of that. My thoughts are with PC | :41:53. | :42:00. | |
Palmer's family and the families of all those who were victims of | :42:01. | :42:05. | |
yesterday's terrorist attacks. We are so grateful to the emergency | :42:06. | :42:10. | |
services and etch who protect -- everyone who protect us. The Prime | :42:11. | :42:14. | |
Minister speaks for the whole country in her message of unity, | :42:15. | :42:21. | |
does she agree with me that the painstaking work begins now for all | :42:22. | :42:27. | |
of us in our constituencies in providing reassurances and | :42:28. | :42:31. | |
maintaining that unity, because it is in the days after an vent like | :42:32. | :42:36. | |
what's happened that we have to be vigilant against those who try to | :42:37. | :42:44. | |
exploit these kinds of attacks and cause backlashes and intolerance | :42:45. | :42:47. | |
against different communities. The role of the media is critical in | :42:48. | :42:54. | |
ensuring that we maintain our resilience and that sense of | :42:55. | :42:59. | |
definals -- defines and solidarity. The honourable lady is right, there | :43:00. | :43:06. | |
is an immediate focus on the event, but of course as he says it is in | :43:07. | :43:14. | |
the days after that some may try to sow hatred. I would like to thank | :43:15. | :43:22. | |
the Prime Minister for h her statement and to offer condelenses | :43:23. | :43:26. | |
to all affected. As a former armed forces family I know at this time it | :43:27. | :43:29. | |
is more important to show our resolve. I also hope that we will | :43:30. | :43:35. | |
continue to support alaffected -- all affected. Although trauma may | :43:36. | :43:44. | |
not impact straight awashings -- away it may have long-term fbgts. | :43:45. | :43:50. | |
Effects. The honourable lady makes a good point. Over time with a number | :43:51. | :43:54. | |
of incidents we have come to learn more about the importance of | :43:55. | :43:59. | |
providing that support, that is not just about an immediate reaction, | :44:00. | :44:04. | |
but for some the impact of an attack can kick in quite a while later. | :44:05. | :44:07. | |
That is why we are looking at the support that is available for | :44:08. | :44:13. | |
victims. I commend my honourable friend's statement and hope she will | :44:14. | :44:16. | |
agree that Britain's police force is the greatest in the world and for | :44:17. | :44:21. | |
those of us who served as police officers, I pay tribute to PC Keith | :44:22. | :44:31. | |
Palmer, who was stood serving this house unarmed when duty call and he | :44:32. | :44:38. | |
paid the ultimate sacrifice. These lone wolf type attacks are difficult | :44:39. | :44:41. | |
to defend against, what can be done to make sure this does not happen | :44:42. | :44:48. | |
again? In terms of protective security, work will be done with the | :44:49. | :44:55. | |
Parliamentary estate. But the best way of defeating terrorist is | :44:56. | :44:59. | |
through intelligence and finding information about the potential for | :45:00. | :45:03. | |
attacks taking place in advance and preventing them as I said, since | :45:04. | :45:09. | |
June 2013, 13 plots have been disrupted. That is due to the hard | :45:10. | :45:14. | |
work of the our police and security and intelligence agencies. They work | :45:15. | :45:19. | |
day in and out to keep us safe and will continue to do so. I think | :45:20. | :45:24. | |
everyone who works on the Parliamentary estate has considered | :45:25. | :45:28. | |
what they would do if a day like yesterday ever happened. For those | :45:29. | :45:31. | |
who work with families on site it is of particular concern. I wonder if | :45:32. | :45:35. | |
the Prime Minister would join me in saying a specific word for the staff | :45:36. | :45:40. | |
at the House of Commons nursery for their actions. Many can attest to | :45:41. | :45:45. | |
looking after one toddler for a number of hours is not easy, but | :45:46. | :45:49. | |
they looked after the children in difficult circumstances and kept in | :45:50. | :45:52. | |
touch with some very worried parents. I was in the nursery during | :45:53. | :45:58. | |
the lock down and their action was much appreciated. Very happy to join | :45:59. | :46:01. | |
the honourable gentleman in commending the work of staff of the | :46:02. | :46:07. | |
nursery. It must have been very difficult with young children in an | :46:08. | :46:10. | |
uncertain and difficult circumstance. I'm sure they did an | :46:11. | :46:14. | |
excellent job and I'm happy to join him in commending the work they did. | :46:15. | :46:22. | |
I join in all the tributes that have been paid, those of us that were | :46:23. | :46:28. | |
locked down will pay tribute to your deputy, the chairman of ways and | :46:29. | :46:32. | |
means and the leader of the House for their keeping calm and carrying | :46:33. | :46:40. | |
on and I would pay tribute to the Hansard reporters who recorded three | :46:41. | :46:44. | |
hours after the business had finished up to the adjournment. That | :46:45. | :46:51. | |
is a tribute to our democracy. I would join the honourable gentleman | :46:52. | :46:54. | |
in commending the actions of both the chairman of way and mean and the | :46:55. | :46:59. | |
leader of the house yesterday who I think calmly was able to reassure | :47:00. | :47:04. | |
members at a time when nobody knew everything about what was happening. | :47:05. | :47:07. | |
There was limited information available. Thank you Mr Speaker, | :47:08. | :47:16. | |
yesterday, showed us the worst of humanity but it showed us more the | :47:17. | :47:20. | |
best of humanity, whether that was the member from Bournemouth east or | :47:21. | :47:33. | |
the action of PC Palmer or the firearms officer. I have been | :47:34. | :47:38. | |
touched in the last two days by the number of people from my | :47:39. | :47:42. | |
constituency who have contacted of me of Christian, Jewish and Muslim | :47:43. | :47:47. | |
faith and of no faith and particularly I want to pay tribute | :47:48. | :47:51. | |
to the chairman of the mosques in Leeds, who contacted me to say his | :47:52. | :47:54. | |
thought and prayers and of all the community in Leeds are with all of | :47:55. | :48:00. | |
us at this difficult time and there will be prayers across our country | :48:01. | :48:06. | |
in the days ahead. I join trade, I think all faith communities across | :48:07. | :48:11. | |
this country will be becoming together and will as she says, be | :48:12. | :48:15. | |
remembering those who have suffered as a result of those attack and in | :48:16. | :48:20. | |
their coming together ensuring that they again show how, because they | :48:21. | :48:23. | |
do, they represent those values that we have talked about, that are so | :48:24. | :48:30. | |
important to our way of life. The Prime Minister has been exemplary on | :48:31. | :48:38. | |
this. As she was on Hillsborough. The member for Ribble Valley was | :48:39. | :48:42. | |
right to Tay that Keith was one of us. One of the things we saw | :48:43. | :48:46. | |
yesterday was that the Parliamentary family is a big family and includes | :48:47. | :48:51. | |
cooks and cleaners and clerks and door keepers and people who make our | :48:52. | :48:56. | |
democracy function, who are in my ways more important than we are. We | :48:57. | :49:04. | |
have, when an MP dies in action, a shield is put up or when they're | :49:05. | :49:10. | |
killed like Ian Gou in a terrorist incident, they have a shield put up | :49:11. | :49:15. | |
and sadly I hope soon there will be one for Jo Cox. It is time, whatever | :49:16. | :49:23. | |
tribute there is play be, in the future, Keith's, Keith had a shield | :49:24. | :49:28. | |
in this chamber. Because he was our shield and defender yesterday. I say | :49:29. | :49:34. | |
to the honourable gentleman I think it is appropriate that PC Keith | :49:35. | :49:38. | |
Palmer for his bravery and his act of sacrifice should be recognised in | :49:39. | :49:42. | |
an appropriate way. The honourable gentleman will realise what that is | :49:43. | :49:45. | |
is a matter for the House authorities. Thank you, yesterday on | :49:46. | :49:54. | |
Wembridge and in New Palace Yard many members of public attempted to | :49:55. | :49:58. | |
give life saving aid to the injured. Many will have asked the question | :49:59. | :50:02. | |
about whether we would have had the skills had we been there, will the | :50:03. | :50:06. | |
Prime Minister join me in encouraging those who seek to | :50:07. | :50:11. | |
acquire those skills to do and and perhaps contact the St John's | :50:12. | :50:18. | |
ambulance. My friend makes a good point and I would join him in that | :50:19. | :50:21. | |
encouragement. I think there are probably the vast majority of | :50:22. | :50:25. | |
members of the House would not have had the skills to be able to act in | :50:26. | :50:30. | |
that way. It is a good message that more of us should acquire the | :50:31. | :50:39. | |
skills. The aim of any terrorist is to exploit the natural and | :50:40. | :50:49. | |
inevitable sense of public interest and sympathy to sow disunity and | :50:50. | :50:55. | |
disruption and fear beyond the act, the physical act of terror, in | :50:56. | :51:00. | |
building on her commendable words about the resolution of British | :51:01. | :51:04. | |
people, does she think that we should also take time to reflect in | :51:05. | :51:08. | |
is in chamber and outside it, including in the media, about how we | :51:09. | :51:16. | |
can balance the public interest and the people's feelings of grief with | :51:17. | :51:23. | |
seeking not to give oxygen or pub lilsty -- publicity to whatever | :51:24. | :51:26. | |
cause it is that a terrorist seeks to promote? It is, this question of | :51:27. | :51:35. | |
oxygen of publicity is an important one and we should reflect on the | :51:36. | :51:38. | |
points that the honourable gentleman has made. He references the actions | :51:39. | :51:43. | |
of media. We shouldn't forget, we have talked about people who were | :51:44. | :51:46. | |
caught up in this yesterday, there were many journalists who were | :51:47. | :51:51. | |
caught up either on the periphery of the Parliamentary estate or in the | :51:52. | :51:54. | |
Parliamentary estate and continuing and doing their best to do their job | :51:55. | :51:59. | |
in reporting faithfully what was happening. But I think how these | :52:00. | :52:05. | |
matters are addressed, how these matters are reported, is an | :52:06. | :52:11. | |
important consideration, as he says, we want to ensure is not possible to | :52:12. | :52:19. | |
use these actions to encourage others or to sow division. I would | :52:20. | :52:26. | |
add my condolences and my gratitude tho those expressed. Yesterday two | :52:27. | :52:29. | |
of my constituents were caught up in the attacks, one op whom was eight | :52:30. | :52:33. | |
months pregnant and they have asked me to pass on their gratitude and | :52:34. | :52:38. | |
thanks to the House staff and the police for the consideration with | :52:39. | :52:42. | |
which they were treated during the five hour lock down. Would the Prime | :52:43. | :52:47. | |
Minister agree with me that just as we go about continue to go about our | :52:48. | :52:53. | |
daily work, so those we represent must continue to see this House as | :52:54. | :52:57. | |
their House, and must be encouraged to come here to see and participate | :52:58. | :53:03. | |
in the democracy which puts our values into action. I think that is | :53:04. | :53:08. | |
a very important point. It is part of our democracy that members of | :53:09. | :53:12. | |
public, that the constituents we represent, are able to come to this | :53:13. | :53:17. | |
place and learn about this place and also are able to access their | :53:18. | :53:21. | |
representatives at this place and we should ensure that will always | :53:22. | :53:27. | |
continue. My honourable friend has mentioned the House of Commons staff | :53:28. | :53:34. | |
who were showing exemplary behaviour and I wanted to pay tribute to the | :53:35. | :53:41. | |
manager who dealt with nervous parents. It is every part's worst | :53:42. | :53:47. | |
nightmare and they stayed calm under an attack. May I add that people who | :53:48. | :53:54. | |
commit acts of terrorism in the name of Islam do not speak for the | :53:55. | :54:01. | |
Muslims is in country or this city and do not speak for me. I'm | :54:02. | :54:06. | |
grateful for her words. Again for the warm way in which she has spoken | :54:07. | :54:11. | |
of the actions of the House of Commons staff who were looking after | :54:12. | :54:16. | |
children. But she is right, the terrorists do not speak in the name | :54:17. | :54:21. | |
of the faith. Never a warped ideology. The murder who used both | :54:22. | :54:29. | |
his car and also a knife as weapons of murder yesterday care not what | :54:30. | :54:35. | |
the faith of the people he killed was or the nationality. Doesn't it | :54:36. | :54:40. | |
say everything about why our values will prevail and the values of | :54:41. | :54:44. | |
murder will not, that after the police had shot him, they attempted | :54:45. | :54:50. | |
to save his life? I think it does show those values that underpin our | :54:51. | :54:55. | |
way of life. That that was, the first thought that they did try to | :54:56. | :54:59. | |
save the individual's life. That is what the police do. It is what they | :55:00. | :55:04. | |
have done in previous incidents as well. And as he says, I think that | :55:05. | :55:11. | |
shows the values that are at the heart of our society. Can I commend | :55:12. | :55:18. | |
the Prime Minister for her strength of character and for her leadership | :55:19. | :55:22. | |
at this time cometh the hour, cometh the woman. We thank you and we thank | :55:23. | :55:28. | |
you others. The Prime Minister, at this moment we are all aware of | :55:29. | :55:34. | |
review that will take place, the policy review will make | :55:35. | :55:40. | |
recommendations, could I ask Prime Minister what assurance, or seek an | :55:41. | :55:44. | |
assurance they will be conveyed to the Scottish Parliament, the Welsh | :55:45. | :55:53. | |
Assembly and the Irish Assembly and co-operation with the Irish | :55:54. | :55:56. | |
republic. I thank the honourable gentleman for his comments. Any | :55:57. | :56:00. | |
lessons learned here in this Parliamentary estate, we must | :56:01. | :56:05. | |
recognise there are other representative bodies, Parliaments | :56:06. | :56:07. | |
and Assemblies across the United Kingdom and of course it is | :56:08. | :56:12. | |
important that we ensure those messages are shared. This morning I | :56:13. | :56:22. | |
spoke with the Imam of my area who wanted to share his sorrow. Which | :56:23. | :56:33. | |
will come away from that debate, MPs meeting determined to show their | :56:34. | :56:36. | |
work will continue and the Prime Minister saying we are not afraid, | :56:37. | :56:43. | |
our resolve will never waiver in the face of tomorrow. Terrorism. He | :56:44. | :56:51. | |
described the attack yesterday, where the police officer was killed | :56:52. | :57:00. | |
as an attack on free people. We saw the worst of humanity, but we will | :57:01. | :57:03. | |
remember the best of humanity as well. She described PC Keith Palmer | :57:04. | :57:12. | |
as every inch a hero. We have heard are that the queen has sent a | :57:13. | :57:18. | |
statement. The Buckingham Palace said her thoughts, prayers and | :57:19. | :57:23. | |
sympathies are with all those affected by yesterday's violence. We | :57:24. | :57:28. | |
will bring you full coverage throughout the day from here in | :57:29. | :57:32. | |
Westminster. Where we are at the edge of the police cordon. Many of | :57:33. | :57:37. | |
the streets and key roads leading to the Palace of Westminster still | :57:38. | :57:41. | |
closed this afternoon. You're watching BBC news. | :57:42. | :57:50. | |
This is BBC News. I'm Ben Brown live at Westminster. As the Prime | :57:51. | :57:56. | |
Minister says the man behind the terror attack here was British-born | :57:57. | :57:58. | |
and known | :57:59. | :57:59. |