27/03/2017 Victoria Derbyshire

I am Victoria Derbyshire. Welcome to the programme.

This morning, is this police risk assessment,

Now this programme understands the Government is going

I have done shows where it's not predominantly black form, I don't

have to do the form. When I am performing in Oceania, it's

middle-class white kids, certain areas don't have to do the form at

all. an exclusive interview with a man

who wants to change the law to allow which badly affect their quality

of life to end their life We will bring you that exclusive

interview after 10 am. And, you may think this is a video

of Peppa Pig and is safe for your young child to watch

on YouTube, but it fairly disturbing content not

suitable for children. Throughout the morning

the latest breaking news Later we will bring you more details

on a story that two girls aged 10 were stopped from boarding

a United Airlines flight because They were flying as guests

of employees and were Today we want your examples

of leggings discrimination. For some reason leggings

really annoy people. Do get in touch on that

and all the stories we are talking Use the hashtag Victoria live

and if you text you will be charged Our top story today,

Labour Shadow Brexit Secretary, Keir Starmer, has set

the terms his party will judge whether to support

any final Brexit deal. He announced six tests for Brexit,

asking for a deal that delivers the same benefits as the UK

currently enjoys as a member of Let's talk to Norman. What are the

conditions? These are the tests Labour say will have to be met if

they're going to vote for the deal that Theresa May comes back from her

negotiations. We are now moving into the sort of second phase of Brexit,

we are going to trigger Article 50 that begins the process, now we get

into the deal-making. We heard from the head of the EU negotiating team

this morning saying that Brexit bill, the amount of money we are

going to have to pay is central to their negotiations. Labour setting

out the six tests. Let me run through what they're suggesting

Theresa May will have to secure agreement on. One, fair migration

system, retaining a strong collaborative approach with the EU,

protecting national security, delivering for all the UK,

preventing a race to the bottom in terms of changes to workers' rights

and ensuring exactly the same benefits as we currently enjoy as

part of the single market. Keir Starmer also issued this warning to

Theresa May, not to come back with no deal. Have a listen. Once a small

minority in the Conservative Party, the Brexiteers are now in office and

in power. This idealogically driven approach to Brexit will be

disastrous and divisive and it would stand as a road block to continued

co-operation in the important fields of technology, research, medicine,

security, science, art and culture. The Prime Minister needs to face

down these Brexiteers. Will Theresa May be able to meet the six tests?

Most of them, yes, because they're slightly motherhood and apple pie.

One of the tests which it seems will be difficult to meet, that's the one

I talked about, having to ensure that the UK retains exactly the same

benefits as we currently enjoy. When you think about it that's difficult

because Theresa May has already said we are not going to be in the single

market, not in the customs union, so having the same benefits is going to

be very difficult indeed. Labour make the point it was David Davis,

the Brexit Secretary who first suggested that's what the Government

would try to achieve, that would seem to set the bar very high

indeed. So, you are thinking at the moment it's going to be very tough

for MrsMay to meet that which means Labour would, I expect, have to vote

against the final Brexit deal. There's a long way to go, thank you

very much. Now the rest of the morning's news.

The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, will meet European ministers today

to discuss ways of preventing further terrorist attacks.

She's called for the authorities

to be given access to encrypted messaging services.

The Westminster attacker, Khalid Masood, may have used

WhatsApp shortly before he began his assault.

This afternoon's deadline to form a new devolved

government in Northern Ireland following the elections is likely

Sinn Fein say they won't go into an executive led

by the Democratic Unionist Party leader, Arlene Foster,

while a public inquiry investigates her handling

MPs must introduce tougher measures to tackle childhood obesity

in England, including controlling supermarket price promotions on junk

A report out today by the Health Select Committee argues

missed several important opportunities and

Here's our health correspondent Dominic Hughes.

A levy on sugary drinks was the main element of the government's

childhood obesity strategy when it was announced last year.

While many health experts and campaigners said it was a start,

they also thought the government could and should have gone further.

Now a group of MPs has agreed that much more needs to be done

In particular, they want action to curb discounts and price

The committee also calls for clear goals on reducing overall levels

of childhood obesity and for the levy on sugary drinks

to be extended to milk-based products that have added sugar.

We know that one in three 11-year-olds are overweight

or obese, and that's not just about individual choices,

it's about the environment that children are growing up

in and really the key thing that's missing from the current strategy

is regulation around marketing and the promotions to children.

Representatives from the food industry itself told the committee

that responsible retailers are being disadvantaged by those

who continue to offer big discounts on food high in sugar and fat.

In a statement, the Department of Health in England

defended its use of a largely voluntary approach from the food

industry to the reduction of sugar and fat, and said ministers had not

ruled out further measures if results are not seen.

But the MPs argue the situation with childhood obesity

is so serious and urgent, ministers need to take

We will be talking to one of the MPs involved in that report and some

moneys later here on the programme. BT has been fined a record

42 million pounds by It found BT's Openreach division had

cut compensation payments to other telecoms providers for delays

in installing high speed business lines.The company said it

"apologised wholeheartedly" There are claims that changes

to disability benefits, called personal independent

payments, could lead to an increase The government has reversed a court

ruling which would have allowed more issues who suffer distress

when they travel alone. Nobody who already gets

the benefit will see a cut. And more on that later in the

programme. Nine out of 10 local

authorities in England are increasing their level

of council tax from April, Residents in some areas

will see their bills rise by the maxiumum 5%, as councils

use new powers to top up their charges with money

ring-fenced for social care. Only 22 councils out of 353

in England are freezing council tax in the next financial year according

to the Press Association. The government is to respond

to fears a police risk assessment form has been used in a "racist" way

to target grime artists. Promoters and licensees in many

areas are asked to complete a Form 696 before hosting some music events

featuring "DJs and Mcs". Culture Minister Matt Hancock

is set to raise concerns with Mayor Sadiq Khan about the use

of the form in London. The Met Police denies

the voluntary form targets We have a special report on that

coming up. A man is seeking to take his case

to the High Court to change the law on assisted Suicide

which is currently The 54-year-old father,

who cannot be identified by name, was diagnosed in 2014

with a rare degenerative disease. His illness is not terminal,

but means he is largely confined to his bed

and he needs constant care. The judgement is expected to be

announced in the coming days. And we have an exclusive interview

on this programme. An American airline has been

criticised after two young girls were stopped from boarding a flight

because they were wearing leggings. The incident at the airport was seen

by another passenger, who took to social media to tweet

United Airlines. The airline responded

by saying they had the right to refuse passengers for not

following their dress code. They later clarified that the girls

were not on a general ticket and had That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 9.30am. Let's get some sport.

Olly Foster is with us. Three wins out of three for the home

nations playing World Cup qualifiers yesterday,

but Jermain Defoe and a young boy Good morning. Yes, they forged a

Premiership and friendship. Jermaine Defoe and Bradley, who is five years

old and has a terminal disease. He has cancer and Sunderland the club

have been giving him and his family lots of support and Jermaine Defoe

at 34 was recalled to the England squad for the firs time in over

three years and there he is with Bradley and Joe Hart pushing

Jermaine Defoe out first. Joe Hart given the captaincy but says you

lead Bradley out. A special night for Bradley and Jermaine Defoe, as

well. Would you believe it, Defoe actually scored England's first

against Lithuania. It wasn't a great match this World Cup qualifier. But

a lovely finish and the manager says if he keeps on scoring there is no

reason why he can't go and play in Russia next summer. Jamie Vardy

scored their second. 2-0. England remain unbeaten and top of their

group. The match wasn't great but lovely scenes before, very poignant.

Gordon Strachan has more time in the Scotland job. It was the expectation

that had Scotland not won against Slovenia that would have pretty much

made it very difficult for them to qualify. But Chris Martin who came

on in the last eight minutes was booed, a lot of affect Scotland

fans. He scored that late winner. Now a couple of points behind second

place in that all-important play-off spot. Let's hear from Gordon

Strachan who has still got himself a Scotland job. All you can ask as a

manager is do certain things, they did they were asked. They pushed

themselves another level there. So I was calm enough, what will be will

be. But I was enjoying their performance as a manager.

So Scotland now fourth in that group. A couple of points in

England's group, but still going strong. Their next match is against

England in June. Northern Ireland are still going

strong in their group. Michael O'Neill says remember we got

to France at the Euros and that's driving them on trying to get to

back-to-back major championships and eight unbeaten now at Windsor Park.

They were playing Norway and they won 2-0. It helped that they scored

inside a couple of minutes. They were 2-0 up by half-time. Connor

Washington with their second. A lovely finish. Northern Ireland

making it a clean sweep for the home nations yesterday. Wales getting

that draw last week in the Republic. Thank you.

This is a police event risk assessment form known as Form 696.

Clubs and bars who want to put on an event with a DJ or an MC

performing to a backing track are asked to fill it out.

It's been used in London by the Metropolitan Police

for a number of years but has been branded racist and divisive

because people in the music industry feel it targets music performed

by black and Asian artists - whereas pop or rock acts don't

And depending on what goes on that form, police can shut down events

they think pose too high a risk to those attending.

Now this programme understands that the Culture Minister Matt Hancock

is set to raise concerns with London Mayor Sadiq Khan

We've also discovered some police forces outside of London still ask

for the ethnic make-up of the audience attending

and the music genre being played at an event, on the form.

Our reporter Chi Chi Izundu's been looking into this one,

and a warning, this piece does contain some flash photography.

If you submit your details through a 696 and an event gets

shut down, you kind of know it's the police.

We don't question it no more, we just know they're just trying

There should be a review of the whole 696 process.

So would you say that form 696 is racist?

It's all like a big tidal wave of positive things,

that's why I'm not complaining, it's a lot, but it's

all great things, it's all blessings, yeah, so...

Stormzy hit number one with his debut album Gang Signs

Prayers a couple of weeks back, and broke records, including racking

up the most first-week streams for a number one album

Attention is so strong on grime right now, when he freestyled about

the Brits failing to acknowledge anyone from it in 2016, Brits bosses

called him in and changed their voting structure.

Grime's exploded, it's absolutely exploded.

There's been a massive explosion in consumption,

in the retention rate of people that are coming across the grime shutdown

platform, and the people that are searching for grime artists.

If you look at someone like Skepta, for example,

or someone like Stormzy, they get several millions

# You're getting way too big for your boots.

# I've got the big size 12s on my feet...#.

I would say grime is like a musical representation

Like, so, it's fast-tempo, it's high-energy, it's an attitude,

It's fashion, it's the way we speak, all rolled

into like 140-bpm electronic dance hall-inspired fusion.

You've got to listen to it, you've got to experience

it to fully understand what it is, yeah?

One way to experience grime, like all genres of music,

But people in the industry say that this form used in London,

known as the Metropolitan Police's promotion event risk

assessment form 696, is stopping those experiences,

Because DJs and MCs performing to a backing track have

to fill out this form, so that can be things like garage,

R, grime - predominantly music enjoyed and performed

Other genres like pop or rock don't have to fill out a special

risk assessment form, and even though it's

voluntary in theory, those who do have to fill it

It was an idea that you'd be able to identify

So would you say that form 696 is racist?

If an artist seems to have a following where there's

a lot of incidents occur, or if an artist is seen

as proclaiming, encouraging a certain kind of dynamic

with different groups or what people call gangs coming together,

they are seen as a problem and they are then identified,

and I think that that's a way that people see the 696 form can work

People get into habits and they start hearing certain

things and then they think that this music means there's going to be more

problems because it's going to mean these types of people.

So actually the form isn't a racist form, the form is a form.

It's sad to say, but I do feel it is.

In my experience, when it's normally a night where it is predominantly

black people, without fail 696 form comes out of nowhere, have to do it.

When I've done shows where it's not predominantly black

people, I don't have to do the form.

When I'm performing in Oceana, it is mainly like middle class

or upper class white kids and stuff, certain unis, certain cities,

certain areas don't have to do the form at all.

To me, it does feel like a race thing.

Just going back again to the wording of the form,

like it's implicitly explicit, if that makes sense?

Like, you're targeting a specific genre of music that you know

a certain demographic is going to listen to.

You haven't written anything about any other type of demographic.

They can say it's not racist, but it's definitely targeted, which,

So let's be clear on how form 696 is supposed to work.

You want to put on a gig featuring, let's say, Stormzy.

He's an artist that would MC, spit bars, rap to a backing track

Details needed include the venue, the promoter, name of the event,

Stormzy's real name, date of birth and address.

That's then sent to the Metropolitan Police's central licensing team,

and the Met told us they do research with the information

They wouldn't go into detail, but it's likely to include

The gradings can go from low risk to medium to high,

but again police wouldn't tell us what constitutes a high,

That grade is then sent to the venue and to the local

licensing police unit, and according to the Metropolitan Police it's then

up to the venue or the promoter, or the local licensing police unit,

Last year, a club in Croydon in London hit the headlines

after it was revealed that, through form 696, police had told

the owner to ban bashment, a form of Jamaican music.

I received this letter from them, and it said that bashment

plays unacceptable forms of music and that if we continue to play it

we'd literally risk losing our business.

We were told that bashment may attract the wrong type of people.

I don't think they actually wanted to see too many black people

At the time, police disputed that was the case and the club has

remained open after many local people protested.

My birthday bash was nearly shut down unless I took an artist off.

It turned out to be because his brother had some sort of court case.

They said, yeah, basically he had to come off

otherwise your birthday bash isn't going to happen,

so I actually had to take him off the line-up.

I've definitely been booked at an event where

the promoter's like, last-minute, more time

on the day had to say, "Can't put this event on no more,

police have said no, we haven't got a reason why."

The Metropolitan Police refused to do an interview with this

programme on form 696, but they did answer a variety

of questions, including some sent in via a Freedom

We found that they have reviewed nearly 2,500 696s since 2016 alone,

Through an FOI with the Met, this programme has discovered

that the form encourages licensed venues, police and local authorities

It gives licensees up-to-date information about past

and future promotions, plus it helps reduce crime

But the Met said it's rare for police to advise that

If you say it straight, you do not get more crime with young

black men than you do with young white men or anyone else.

When there's an incident, it tags a whole genre

It's a bit like saying, well, we're not going to have rock

and roll or any music whatsoever of any kind because some guys

from Essex or from Hampstead have had a punch-up

You can't then say, "We're not going to have any

And that's where the tension lies, you know?

The Metropolitan Police's promotion event risk assessment form 696

was introduced in London back in 2005 after police said club

owners and promoters were concerned over a spate of violent attacks

at venues around the capital in the early noughties.

So are gigs where someone performs to a backing track more likely

The only figures we have are from 2009, when police looked

This 2009 review looked at violent crime linked to pubs and clubs

Officers looked at reports in particular of serious violent

crime, things like murder, GBH, threats to kill.

They also looked at crimes where a weapon had been used

and also where there'd been group fights.

All of these events were listed as having a variety of music styles.

The review says funk, house, Indian, pop.

At the top of the list, with 48 events where there

were serious violent incidents, was music which included R

And in at number three was pop, with 31 events which had had

Now, let's look at the list below that - all variety of music going.

The other interesting thing that the review found

was that the victims of these crimes were largely white Europeans, and it

But, despite that evidence, the review still concluded

that the likely profile of the music events where a serious violent

or weapon-related crime happened was with recorded music, DJs,

and the music type of R, house, funky house and similar.

Now, despite a recommendation to, there has not been a review

And when we asked, police were unable to update us with more

recent figures of crime linked to pubs and clubs

A bunch of young men all dressed in black dancing extremely

It made me feel so intimidated, and it's just not what I expect

In a statement, they said the 2009 review was done

by the clubs and vice unit, which no longer exists,

and that they now run regular forums where promoters are able to exchange

views and air grievances, as well as meetings for those

We asked to see the minutes of those meetings and the Met told us

they were private one-to-ones, so we asked to see the minutes

of the forum meetings, and the Met said if we wanted any

more information we'd have to submit a Freedom

of Information request, so we have.

And they said they are confident the majority understand

There's trouble at all types of gigs.

And I know for a fact many other different types of genres and gigs

Say, for example, Ed Sheeran had a show and a fight broke out -

he's not going to do a 696 form on his next arena tour.

There's situations everywhere, whether it's punk,

Things can happen in places, so if you're going to do

that to protect people, it should be for every single club.

It's not just these ones that have problems.

But grime isn't just a London thing, it's found love up and down the UK,

in places like South Yorkshire, the Midlands, even here

And now this programme can confirm that there are forces across England

that have their own version of a promotion risk assessment form,

or they've taken the questions from the Met version and added them

They basically said, "We've got to take off these grime acts."

We never actually get to talk to the police,

they don't really respond to the artist at all.

It's almost as if they don't have to tell us why.

For me, that's wrong, because at least if we know why,

then we know how to change it or how to go about it.

We wanted to know whether forces England have their own version

of the Metropolitan Police's promotion event risk

assessment form 696, so we asked them and,

of those that responded, we now know that at least 15

have their own version, or have taken questions

from the Met's one and added them to a generic risk assessment form.

Bedfordshire Police actually ask for the music genre

being played at an event, and they warn that if you don't fill

out their form correctly it could jeopardise future events

Leicestershire Police ask for a music genre,

but they also ask for the ethnic make-up of the audience,

and they also want to know the dress code.

And Nottinghamshire Police say they are open to

We generally know what the ethnic make-up's going to be

from what comes in anyway, so, you know.

It's about those types of events that bring certain risks,

and it's not necessarily any particular genre of music,

although there are particular performers that have a following

that bring with them a certain amount of problems.

By risk-assessing them, we can then make sure

that we identify problems, work with promoters and venues

to make sure that all of the mitigation is in place

to prevent those incidents happening, or at least to minimise

wherever possible the risk of those serious incidents happening.

# You trying to say he's better than me?

We did ask a number of promoters and venue owners to appear in this

film, but a lot said no over fears that they or their event

might become a target, because for years there's been

rumours about a police blacklist with acts, their followers

# On stage at the Brits I'm a back-up dancer.

# If that makes me a back-up dancer, the man in your vids?

Now some licensees are telling us that they are having constructive

conversations with the police over form 696, and,

to quote one promoter, on ways to get around the system.

That same promoter, though, asks, why should he have

We've been talking to central licensing and we've done some good

work with initiating a conversation, because we said that there's a real

concern around 696s, and particularly how it plays out

with certain genres of music and certain demographics,

particularly around grime and garage.

And we've bought some managers and labels in together

with the promoters and said that we would address it,

We actually think there should be a review of the whole 696 process.

We think that it's got challenges, and it's flawed.

But, despite that, and the intervention

of the Culture Minister, there are no plans to

Your views on this are, of course, welcome.

This comment, isn't the form basically a form of racial

profiling? Don't tarnish everyone with the same brush. Nightlife is

struggling as it is. This tweet, the nature of the event including the

genre is a relevant risk assessment criteria. Gail says on Twitter,

there is a discriminatory element to this form, keep people safe but it's

too far. Another says, some musics attracts people that are attracted

to knife, guns and violence, so it's a sensible form. The.

The Met say the form doesn't target any particular group -

Leicestershire police say their form is under review and some

The Mayor of London's office say it's very rare for police to assess

After 10am, we'll speak to grime act Post Diddy.

The online videos that mimic popular children's

programmes like Peppa Pig - but deliver disturbing content.

We'll look at what's being done to combat the problem.

And we'll discuss how proposed cuts to disability payments

are affecting the disabled - ahead of a vote on the

Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

will judge on whether to support any final Brexit deal.

He announced six tests for Brexit - asking for a deal that delivers

the same benefits as the UK currently enjoys as a member of

Once a small minority in the Conservative Party, the Brexiteers

This ideologically-driven approach to Brexit would be

And it would stand as a roadblock to continued co-operation

in the important fields of technology, research, medicine,

The Prime Minister needs to face down these Brexiteers.

And later today we'll be putting your questions to BBC

journalists on the triggering of Article 50.

Throughout the day, we'll be speaking with our

Europe editor Katya Adler and economics editor Kamal Ahmed.

You can get in touch via Twitter using the hashtag BBC Ask This,

Theresa May will meet Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon later

today for the first time since she rejected calls

for a second referendum on Scottish independence.

The Prime Minister's visit is part of a tour of all four nations

of the UK before the process of leaving the European Union

The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, will meet European ministers today

to discuss ways of preventing further terrorist attacks.

She's called for the authorities to be given access

The Westminster attacker, Khalid Masood, may have used

WhatsApp shortly before he began his assault.

The government is to respond to fears a police risk assessment

form has been used in a "racist" way to target grime artists.

Promoters and licensees in many areas are asked to complete a Form

696 before hosting some music events featuring "DJs and Mcs".

Culture Minister Matt Hancock is set to raise concerns

with Mayor Sadiq Khan about the use of the form in London.

The Met Police denies the voluntary form targets

This afternoon's deadline to form a new devolved

government in Northern Ireland following the elections is likely

Sinn Fein say they won't go into an executive led

by the Democratic Unionist Party leader, Arlene Foster,

while a public inquiry investigates her handling

A man is seeking to take his case to the High Court to change

the law on assisted Suicide which is currently

The 54-year-old father, who cannot be identified by name,

was diagnosed in 2014 with a rare degenerative disease.

His illness is not terminal, but means he is largely

confined to his bed and he needs constant care.

The judgement is expected to be announced in the coming days.

An American airline has been criticised after two young girls

were stopped from boarding a flight because they were wearing leggings.

The incident at the airport was seen by another passenger,

who took to social media to tweet United Airlines.

The airline responded by saying they had the right

to refuse passengers for not following their dress code.

They later clarified that the girls were not on a general ticket and had

But apparently their dad was able to get on wearing shorts. Something

about leggings annoys people so much, I don't know if people think

if you are wearing them you are lazy or you can't wear them if you are

too curvy. People discriminate against leggings and it needs to

stop. I frequently wear leggings, isn't it comfort first on a plane,

that's the most important thing, surely. We will talk more about that

later. If you have your own examples, let me know. Now the

latest sport. England won 2-0 against Lithuania,

Jermaine deforewith his first appearance in three years and

scoring. Jamie Vardy also scored. Scotland, and Chris Martin scored in

the 88th minute. They're two points off a possible play-off spot.

Northern Ireland remain second in their group behind Germany. They had

a 2-0 win. Andy Murray is unlikely to be fit for the Davis Cup tie.

He has a tear in his elbow and needs rest. I will be back with more sport

after 10am. This morning, claims that changes

to disability benefits called called personal independence payments,

or PIPs will lead to an increase The government has reversed a court

ruling which would have seen more people able to claim

Personal Independence Payments - people with severe mental health

issues who suffer distress Nobody who already gets

the benefit will see a cut. Earlier this month we heard

from Brian Rollinson, who lives with PTSD after serving

in the army in Northern I don't think that these people

making these decisions It was a very difficult

time yet again. Because of what I had

to go through in the last couple of years I didn't

want to be here any more, I think

that speaks for itself without

me saying those words, but this really

got me down, it really did. And I think ministers,

government, need to have a look at the

system in Hull Peers in the House of Lords

will try to force a vote on the issue today; let's talk

to Lib Dem peer Baroness Thomas, Celia Thomas - a member of the House

of Lords and and one of those opposed to what the

government has done. Good morning. What is it you are

objecting to specifically? Well, what we are objecting to is the

Government very quickly is seeking to overturn the two very carefully

considered judgments of the upper tier Tribunal by bringing in new

regulations to make it much harder for people with a very overwhelming

psychological distress in their impairment. They are not going to be

able to get higher rates mobility from PIP if they go out on a journey

alone. The Government are overturning this, they're still

appealing the decision, so they don't have to do this, what they're

doing now, they don't have to do it quite so fast. They're doing it

without consultation. They've just brought in the regulations and we

think that they should consult more, they should consider it more. After

all, this judgment was a carefully reached one and they're saying no,

we don't think the judge has got it right. So your vote today, what

would it achieve, assuming you win the vote, which is unlikely, unless

Labour peers in the House of Lords support you? We would be able to get

rid of the regulations. The Government could introduce them

tomorrow or new ones tomorrow, but we would get rid of these particular

ones today. The Government claims that if these changes, if they -

they've ignored the two judgments. They say if they follow what the

judgment say it's going to cost ?3. 7 billion in extra spending by 2023.

That's an enormous sum of money. It is, but that's a long time in the

future. You could say all sorts of spending is going to go up by that

amount if you go far enough into the future. We have got an ageing

society. What we don't want is for disabled people to be isolated in

their houses because they can't afford to have somebody with them or

to get a taxi to go even on a familiar journey and a lot of people

are in that position. Do you think what the Government has done will

lead to an increase in mental health problems? I do, because it really

will isolate people. The Government think that people can find a

strategy around this problem. Well, the strategy a lot of disabled

people find is to stay put. Stay in their home. Stay where they know

they're safe and not to worry. And we are not talking about just a bit

of anxiety or a bit of stress, we are talking about people who have

overwhelming psychological distress and some of the groups, the

impairment groups that speak up for these people, Mind, Mencap, all

sorts are saying don't do this. Here is a statement from the disabilities

Minister, she said that PIPs were designed to give non-physical

conditions the same recognition as physical ones, but added, now over

two thirds of claimants with mental health conditions get the higher

daily living award. Well, if they're reassessed some people only have

their PIP assessment, only have their award for a year. The next

time they're assessed it might be in a few months' time, might be next

year, under the new regulations they won't get the higher rate. They

might get the lower rate but they won't get the higher rate. So the

Government has changed the policy although they say they haven't. What

they have done, are you clear, do you believe that it means there is

not parity between mental health and physical health? This is exactly

what the judgment wanted to ensure and what the Government are now

overturning. There is no longer parity. And this is something the

Government were very proud that PIP did give parity of esteem to mental

and physical health and my colleague in the Commons, Norman Lamb has made

a really big campaign that the Government should do this, put their

money where their mouth is and this is them doing the opposite. Thank

you very much. It's Peppa Pig, but

not as you know it. We'll look at the disturbing

trend of fake children's programmes delivering

disturbing content online. It can feel like a challenge to eat

healthily when the food that's the most affordable,

is often also the most unhealthy; when supermarkets add the big

discounts to the stuff we know Today a group of MPs has attacked

the Government for not doing more to stop this,

and says it could be It wants ministers to reduce

the number of cut-price and multi-buy offers on unhealthy

food, saying the government's official obesity plan

contains vague statements One quick example is that most

supermarkets sell packs of eight chocolate bars for just ?1,

whereas a bag of apples A third of ten-year-olds in England

is overweight or obese. The head of the MPs committee

who published that report, Conservative Sarah

Wollaston, is with us. Meliny Tim and Jo Nicholas both work

in helping people to eat healthily so that they can avoid

the cheap option. Hello all of you. This is the

committee's second report, a follow-up to what you published

previously. The Government responded to that first one with a sugary

drinks tax. That was sort of it. What else do you want? We know there

are around 37% of what we buy is bought on these deep discounts and

promotions and we would like to see a rebalancing of that so that more

of them are on healthier food and like to see an end to the check-out

chicanes where people have to pass through long stretches of getting to

the tills of unhealthy food and snacks, it's about rebalancing and

taking the British cycling approach, if you like, the marginal gains. So

many things we need to do to tackle childhood obesity, if we focus on

one thing we are missing a trick. It's around diet and exercise, as

well. We need to do everything and the whole host of things are in our

report that we think are missing from the strategy and it matters

because one in four children now are leaving primary school who are the

most disadvantaged children, not just overweight but obese and huge

and widening inequality every year for the last nine years.

The Government say voluntary approaches have been shown to be

very effective, but we have not ruled out further measures if

results are not seen. Well, the trouble is they're missing several

years here because they're saying they're not going to review this

properly until 2020. We are already losing generations of children to

this because we know once you become obese, it is much more difficult to

get to grips with it than it is if we take a preventative approach. We

would like to see a greater focus on this. Do you want that to be

voluntary or do you want the Government to introduce legislation

to stop supermarkets doing the buy one, get one free? Well, the trouble

is, because this is such a huge part of profit margins we know if one

supermarket goes ahead and introduces these measures, it is

easy for them to be undermined by other supermarkets because it is a

huge part of their profit margin and we know that the British Retail

Consortium said they would rather it was mandated and there was a level

playing field and we agree. It is more likely to be effective. Let's

bring in Jo and Melanie. Good morning. From the children's food

trust which helps to teach parents about the value of good, over cheap.

It is not, it can't just be about the buy one get one free, offers,

can it? It has got to be more than that? We agree with the Health

Select Committee that we need to find actions on a number of areas to

really help parents. We surveyed parents recently and asked them

about the sorts of things that would help them to support their children

to eat better because we know parents are worried about it and

they identified that children are having more opportunities to learn

to cook as well as changes in environment such as the supermarket

where they get pestered by their children to buy the unhealthy

snacks. That's when the parent has to say no? Absolutely. And it was

really interesting, 40% of parents said they found it difficult or very

difficult to say no to that pestering and it can be really

relentless as a parent I know that. I'm often greeted by my children and

instead of hello, it's, "Mum, is there anything to eat?" It is within

of those things that happens multiple times of day and it can be

really tough for parents. Melanie, you reckon that supermarkets have a

lot to answer for when it comes to discounting in particular, what sort

of things are they discounting that you don't feel they should be? In

particular, it is the confectionery. So the chocolate bars, the crisps,

the biscuits. When we were really, really -- what we would like to see,

supermarkets are doing the big five. They select five fruit and

vegetables that are at a discounted rate and that's helpful. More

emphasis on fresh products, roots, vegetables, that would go a long

way. And I think even in terms of the leaflets that they do into

supermarkets, perhaps ideas on using fresh fruit and vegetables for

healthy snacks. I know certain supermarkets have the healthy eating

project which as your other guest mentioned really helps with the

education of teaching children to cook and that was part and parcel

with healthy eating is making those good choices, knowing your

ingredients, where they come from and how to use them in its most

nutritious format. You gave an example of good discounting, pick

five pieces of fruit. What about bad discounting? Right, so, it is a lot

is part of the meal deal that you find at the supermarket. A lot of it

is, it is the sugary drink, crisps and a sandwich. When it comes to

children, you know, could we perhaps do more in terms of emphasising the

positives and really pulling back on the negatives and the unhealthy

foods? Jo, is it true that unhealthy food is cheaper than healthy food?

It is. And that's the challenge for families when they're trying to

budget for their food shopping, what they want to be sure of is what they

buy and what they spend their money on are things that their children

will eat. The feedback from parents when we teach children to cook,

their amazement at the sorts of food their children will try if they have

prepared something and cooked with it. They always say, "Well, they

will never eat that at home." It is about that variety because that's

the key to eating well is a variety. So we have got to support parents

and make it more comfortable for them to buy those sorts of healthy

foods so they're confident the children will eat them. Go on

Melanie. I think also again, in terms of the supermarkets, where it

is promoting, you know, the cheaper and the unhealthy foods, if we could

really put that in the fore front of all their aisles and advertising and

things like that because children are perceptive to visual prompts and

again as Jo said, if we can visually prompt the children to make those

selections when they're with mum, the pester power could turn instead

from chocolate bar to sort of a pack of fruits and it would be

interesting fruits, pineapples, mangoes, not just the apples and the

oranges and bananas. Is that realistic We will see pester power

change from your seven-year-old saying, "Can I have a bag of fruit?

To, "I really want a KitKat." If we teach children cookery skills in

school, that's really important and getting children more education

about lifestyle and education and why that matters and it will have

knock on been fits for families at home as well. Is it right that

politicians like you, like your committee are suggesting ways,

possibly legislation to intervene in the market in order to help parents

and their obese children? It is about the Of the problem and as I

say, one in four of the most disadvantaged children leaving

primary school actually obese, not just overweight, that's storing up a

lifetime of problems for them. It really is the scale of this that

demands action. So it is not a small problem. This is a major problem. So

why is your Government reluctant to intervene? Why is it saying let the

market work this out? Well, it is understandably people are worried

about cost of living ip ceases and people who are managing on a tight

budget. But that's why we feel it should be about a rebalancing. So

we're not calling... Does that mean the Government is susceptible to

lobbying from big food companies? There is too much listening to the

big interests and not enough listening to what is a public health

emergency for our children and that's why it demands action and

this is about children's well-being and the whole of their future and

Theresa May on the steps of Downing Street talked about wanting to deal

with health inequality, the life expectancy gap between the richest

and the poorest, if she doesn't tackle childhood obesity we're going

to see that getting worse. Every year for the last nine years when we

look at the data from the child measurement programme, we can see

the gap is getting wider so it does demand some action and there is

progress being made on reform lation, it is fantastic news that

the money from the sugary drinks levy will go into school sports and

breakfast clubs and there are many missed opportunities and the scale

demands action. Can I add something in terms of evidence? Yes. Where

Government has taken action and put regulation in place in relation to

school food standards that it does change what children eat in school

at lunch time. So the evidence is there, that where it is appropriate,

regulation does work and it does make a difference.

Thank you very much. I've got comments here, but I'm waiting more

my tablet to update. Thanks Melanie and Jo.

Next, Rio Ferdinand on how he struggled to cope with his grief

following the death of his wife, Rebecca.

I had an amazing wife, great kids and bang, the moment Rebecca was

diagnosed with cancer, that all changed.

You don't believe the worst scenario can happen. At this point I am just

ain't into seeing a therapist. I want to see people who have been

through the situation experience what I have experience and who can

give me some knowledge first hand. I needed someone who was going through

the same thing as me to say, "You know what mate, it's going to be all

right. I raised this kid and he's doing all right." I started this

blog. The blog turned into a private group for young widowers, it is

referred to as Fight Club because the stuff we talk about in there

doesn't get spoken about anywhere else. Grief gets you at some point.

She will come into my head and I'll try and put it a box there and try

and get on with something. I remember going to my wife's funeral

and everyone said, "Be strong. You're doing so well. You arary

doing so well." On reflection I thought, "I'm not. I'm in shock.

This isn't me. This is just something that's kicked in." I

thought but what if I'm weak tomorrow? Am I failure then? How are

you supposed to grieve like a man when you don't know what it is to

grieve? When do you come to that point when you say you're not

married or rur ring finger? I needed to move on so I can use the last

line in the vows that says, "Until death do us part and we're not

married anymore." It brings it back to life again. There is a lot of my

life where I know I've not moved on and it is because of little things

like the wedding ring. I don't see myself taking off my wedding ring

and they're saying that was the thing that was holding them back.

You need to do those things to be able to breathe properly again and

move on with your life. Very moving. You can watch Rio

Ferdinand Being Mum And Dad at 9pm tomorrow night.

Thank you for your messages about the risk assessment form that the

Metropolitan Police and other forces send out to assess gigs being put on

particularly by grime artsts and others and some in the music

industry feel the form is effectively racist. This is from

Sue, "My son works with grime artsts and said their events are definitely

treated differently. Form 696 does discriminate." This texter says, "I

think 696 is another way of racial profiling and I think it should be

stopped." Simmy, "The 696 form is racial profiling. Let's not try and

lie about this." Phil says, "If people want to have safety, you need

to have risk assessment. To say it is racist is wrong because you might

be aggrieved by this process." Dee says, "More leftist reporting. 696

advises cops to keep an eye on gigs." Thank you for those. In a

couple of minutes time, we will bring you the news and sport. Before

that, here is the weather with Jay Wynne.

In the Highlands of Scotland yesterday, we did very well.

Temperature wise we got to 20 Celsius for the first time this

year. It started off pleasant across much of Scotland. Here is a photo

from this morning in North Queen's ferry. In Northamptonshire and

eastern England started off on a grey note. Some fairly extensive low

cloud. Some patches of mist and fog to go with that. But things are

slowly improving. All that low cloud is drifting back towards that

eastern coast. Some eastern coastal areas will keep the low cloud into

the afternoon keying it on the cool side. Elsewhere, it is another

lovely afternoon with sunshine. That's the case across most of

Scotland. Maybe up towards the Northern Isles in the way of cloud.

Even here we will stay cloud and across the Highlands we could get to

17 or 18 Celsius. A lovely afternoon in Northern Ireland. If you're stuck

under the cloud, temperatures may struggle to get to double figures.

Across the south of the UK, we've got much lighter winds than we saw

through the weekend. A better feel to things. 17 Celsius in the

capital. Now, through this evening, we start to see the low cloud and

the mist and the fog coming back in from the east and by dawn on

Tuesday, I think that low cloud, mist and fog will be extensive

across many central and eastern areas and some of the fog will be

quite dense, but not so in the south-west, more of a breeze with

cloud and patchy rain, ten Celsius here, but elsewhere it is four,

five, six Celsius and that's in larger towns and cities. Rural spots

lower than that. But basically, over the next few days, it is all change.

This area of low pressure out towards the west will start to

become the dominant force. It will bring in a south-westerly breeze and

it will feel things mild and it will throw quite a bit of cloud at us.

That cloud will bring rain. Always wettest on Tuesday. Scattered

showers getting across the eastern side, still doing well temperature

wise, 16 Celsius, 17 Celsius. So looking ahead towards the middle

part of the week. It looks like there will be a lot of cloud and

outbreaks of rain and probably a wetter day on Wednesday. Most of the

rain coming into the north and the west. The South East staying dry and

breezy and cloudy as well. So a different day, a different week

ahead from the last few days. Much more in the way of cloud around.

There will be outbreaks of rain, but with a southerly breeze it will stay

warm and on Tuesday, in the South East, probably getting to 20 or 21

Celsius. This morning, questions over

whether the police have adopted a racist approach to how

they assess gigs put It's fast tempo, high energy, it's

the attitude, it's the whole culture. It's fashion. It's the way

we speak all rolled into electronic dance hall inspired fusion. We will

hear how the Government is to respond to fears the form is being

used in a racist way to target grime artists.

A man with an incurable but not terminal disease.

He tells us about his fight to change the law on assisted suicide.

And, the two US girls stopped from boarding a flight

A huge row's erupted on social media after the airline said the girls'

tickets meant they had to follow a dress code.

Why do leggings cause such offence? Your examples of leggings

discrimination, please. Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news. Labour Shadow Brexit Secretary Kier

Starmer has set the terms his party will use to judge whether to support

any final Brexit deal. He announced six tests for Brexit -

asking for a deal that delivers the same benefits as the UK

currently enjoys as a member of Once a small minority in the

Conservative Party, the Brexiteers This ideologically-driven

approach to Brexit would be And it would stand as a roadblock

to continued co-operation in the important fields

of technology, research, medicine, The Prime Minister needs to face

down these Brexiteers. And later today we'll be

putting your questions to BBC journalists on the triggering

of Article 50. Throughout the day, we'll

be speaking with our Europe editor Katya Adler

and economics editor Kamal Ahmed. You can get in touch via Twitter

using the hashtag BBC Ask This - Theresa May will meet Scotland's

First Minister Nicola Sturgeon later today for the first time

since she rejected calls for a second referendum

on Scottish independence. The Prime Minister's visit is part

of a tour of all four nations of the UK before the process

of leaving the European Union The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd,

will meet European ministers today to discuss ways of preventing

further terrorist attacks. She's called for the authorities

to be given access The Westminster attacker,

Khalid Masood, may have used WhatsApp shortly before

he began his assault. This programme has learnt

that the government is to respond to fears a police risk assessment

form has been used in a racist way Promoters and licensees in many

areas are asked to complete a Form 696 before hosting some music

events featuring "DJs and Mcs". Culture Minister Matt Hancock

is due to raise concerns with Mayor Sadiq Khan about the use

of the form in London. The Met Police denies

the voluntary form targets This afternoon's deadline

to form a new devolved government in Northern Ireland

following the elections is likely Sinn Fein say they won't

go into an executive led by the Democratic Unionist Party

leader, Arlene Foster, while a public inquiry

investigates her handling In an exclusive interview for this

programme a man with an incurable disease says why he's

taking his case to the High Court to change the law

on assisted Suicide. The 54-year-old father,

who wants to be identified by his first name, Omid,

was diagnosed in 2014 with a rare His illness means he is largely

confined to his bed The judgment is expected to be

announced in the coming days. The government must do more

to reduce the number of cut-price offers on unhealthy food to help

curb childhood obesity, The Health Select Committee,

also calls for rules on junk food It argues the government's official

obesity plan contains "vague But ministers say the strategy

is the world's "most ambitious plan One comment, unhealthy food is not

cheaper. Steven, I have seven children, all healthy. I don't allow

crisps or sweets, it's called parenting. Leave the supermarkets

alone. This tweet says supermarket discounts are not the problem, kids

don't buy food, educate parents instead. If you are get in touch,

you are very welcome. If you text you will be charged at the standard

network rate. Here is the sport. England are unbeaten and top of

their World Cup qualifying group. They beat Lithuania 2-0 yesterday.

Not the greatest of games. Lithuania did their best to stifle England but

Jermaine Defoe at 34, got the opener, his 20th goal for England,

three years after his last appearance. Jamie Vardy got

England's second. If he stays fit he should be sure of a place in the

World Cup squad next summer but what about Defoe? It's really important

that we are able to call upon the likes of Jermaine and for him to

have the impact that he had in a game like today. If he is scoring

goals in the Premier League and playing as well as he has this

season, then there is no reason why he couldn't.

England's next qualifier is against Scotland in June. Gordon Strachan

might have been out of a job had they failed to beat Slovenia last

night. They left it late but Chris Martin's 88th minute goal for the

1-0 win moved them up to fourth in the group. A couple of points off

second, that could be good enough for a play-off come the final

reckoning. Hampden was less than half-full. Fans unhappy at recent

performances but Gordon Strachan said the first half was the best

since he has been in charge. All you can ask as a manage certificate go

and do certain things. They did everything they were asked. They

pushed themselves another level there. So, I was calm enough, what

will be will be. But I was enjoying their performance as a manager.

The best that Northern Ireland can probably hope for is a play-off spot

because Germany are running away with it in their group at the

moment. Michael O'Neill's side are two points clear in second after

maintaining their brilliant home form. They beat Norway 2-0. Jamie

Ward scored inside two minutes. Connor Washington added another by

half-time. They haven't been beaten in eight competitive matches at

Windsor Park. Their two remaining home games are against the Czech

Republic and the Germans which is going to be key to them making it

back-to-back major tournaments. Results build confidence and

momentum and belief. We have carried that on. We had the experience of

qualification for France. We had the experience of the finals. It's

credit to the group of players that they've not let their standards

drop. They're still wanting it and dream they can go to Russia, as

well. With every game obviously you are closer to reality.

Another tennis line this morning. Andy Murray's unlikely to be fit for

the Davis Cup tie against France a week on Friday. His brother Jamie

has revealed the world number one has a tear in his elbow and needs

rest. We already knew about that injury but not the severity. Murray

had already pulled out of a tournament in the US with the

problem. He had hoped to return for the start of the clay court season

in about three weeks. That's all the sport.

I will be back in about half an hour.

This is just in. Terry Adams, former gangster, has lost his court of

appeal challenge over how much money he has to pay back from his days of

crime. He says he has insufficient funds to meet a debt of ?651,000. He

has told a judge this morning that he was so broke that he was living

off his actress wife Ruth. And denied having hidden funds that were

behind a lavish lifestyle. The CPS do not agree with him. They say

there is a strong case that Terry Adams possessed substantial

undisclosed assets and the judge said she was not satisfied that

Adams had provided full and candid disclosure. Terry Adams denied he

was using his wife, family and associate to create a sham income

and loans to pay for visits to the opera and restaurants, spa

memberships and treatment at private clinics.

Thousands of videos on YouTube - like this -

look like versions of popular kids cartoons but actually contain

disturbing and inappropriate content not suitable for children.

It may look like Peppa Pig - but in this video a dentist appears

with a huge syringe and her teeth get pulled out.

There are fake videos that contain content not suitable for children.

BBC Trending has found hundreds of similar videos

of children's cartoon characters with inappropriate themes -

featuring characters from the Disney movie Frozen,

the Minions franchise, Thomas The Tank Engine, and many more.

There was an episode where I saw a popular character,

I think it was Peppa Pig again, they actually set fire to a house

with one of the other characters in it to try and kill them.

I mean, these are things that, for a child to see, they are not

The YouTube kids app sort of starts to recommend at the bottom

underneath the videos, and I heard something that didn't

sound right after she'd been watching for maybe ten

She just wanted me to not take it away from her

because she was engrossed in what the video was.

YouTube could come out and say, you know, this is not

You can't have an algorithm that is filtering out the videos

from YouTube and, you know, helping you catch

I hope parents see this and they realise that that Peppa Pig

video that their children are watching might not be Peppa Pig.

We can speak now to Mike Wendling a producer for BBC Trending who's

also a parent and spotted these offensive videos.

We have also Keith White, whose young son watched one of these

videos on their ipad and Professor Sonia Livingston,

Hi, Mike, how did you come across them? It was on the YouTube

recommended videos, you might see them on the right of the screen,

sometimes at the bottom if you are using the app. Like some parents I

am not proud of it, but use YouTube to entertain children every once in

a while, noticed something funny about one of the videos that was

suggested because my children were watching Peppa Pig. The team looked

into them and found, as you say, hundreds, probably thousands of

these videos are on YouTube that are fakes. Who is behind them? We don't

know because nobody actually came back to us. We tried to contact

dozens of the people who are making these films. We think it's a

combination of pranksters, people who think that this stuff is funny.

But then also people who are clearly aiming them at children and trying

to make money off advertising. Right. That could be the motivation.

Keith, what did - how old is your little boy? I have an eight-year-old

and and a six-year-old. They've been using YouTube since the age of one

really. I do think a lot of parents use it to try and entertain their

kids, sometimes to separate fighting siblings. It does add some downtime

but it has to be used in moderation. There are a lot of the videos like

you asked, why do people make these, they're easy hits, easy views and

you can get paid a lot of money with multiple views coming to your

videos. There's an easy way to make money because even a one-year-old

can use YouTube and understand the picture of Peppa Pig is appealing

and they can press that button and the next video will come up and

that's how you can get so many hits making these inappropriate videos.

What did your children watch? There's been a number of incidents I

have come across of inappropriate content on these pretend videos.

Peppa Pig was one. There was another which was a favourite at the time,

Thomas The Tank Engine. There is been a lot.

Were the children scared? At the time I don't think they realised

what they were being exposed to. They were maybe a bit too young to

understand the language and the images being used. Now as they're

getting more sensible they actually do come and tell me, "Daddy, I have

seen something on the video or I've heard something that I didn't like

or was wrong." ." I am more wary of them using YouTube unattended now. I

discovered it over looking one of the videos they were watching and

suddenly realised it sounded the same as Peppa Pig, but some of the

images being used were very wrong. Professor Sonia Livingstone. You

look at child online safety, the answer is not to give your kid the

iPad? No, there are many more answers than that. Children want to

be entertained and have the right to have fun and the internet is a key

place for them to do it. I think, and YouTube is, you know, families

number one favourite app. But what our research says is children are

often upset when they come across something that shows actually

especially cruelty to children or animals and it seems some of the

videos show exactly that. Whose responsibility is it then? Well, it

is a mixed responsibility. This is a new world that we're all working

out. So, parents do need to upped stand what it is that the internet

offers which is a mix of wonderful and some weird and sometimes

frightening content, but I wouldn't say that means parents should never

leave their kids alone on the internet or that they have got to

watch over them the whole time. We do also want children to learn and

to have the freedom to explore and have fun, you know, sometimes by

themselves without a parent kind of breathing over their shoulders. So I

do think that the companies, especially YouTube bear some

responsibility for really making clear what kind of environment this

is and doing what they can to make it safer for children. Mike in terms

of your attempts to contact YouTube, where are they on the responsibility

side of this? So they did send us a statement. They said there is a

couple of things that parents can do to protect themselves. One is to

turn on restricted mode. It is interesting, I didn't know about

restricted mode even though I look at this stuff every day. At the

bottom of every YouTube page there is a setting that you can change.

That will turn off any video that's been flagged for inappropriate

content. You won't be able to view it. You can use the YouTube kids

app. Our team found that those methods filtered out quite a lot of

these videos, not all of them, but they did help and then, of course,

as we have been talking about, it is up to parents to monitor their

children's internet. It really is. A lot of parents getting in touch

saying this is, you know, you're a parent, do your job. I think that's

a fair point. Go on, Sonia? On the bottom of the YouTube screen it used

to be called, "Safe" And they call it restrictive. If YouTube want

parents to take their responsibility they could call it safety or for

kids or for parents that makes it clear and they could bring it to

parents attention because I have interviewed lots of parents and no

one is telling them that there is a mechanism. Tell us what that is

Mike? It is called restricted mode. It is at the very bottom of any

YouTube page. Hit that and hopefully you won't get the fake stuff? Turn

the restricted mode on and that will limit, like I say, quite a lot of

these videos, not all of them. It depends on users to flag them up and

if a user hasn't flagged the particular video up t might be new

then it won't pick tip, but that will really help filter out some of

this stuff. Go on... There is an opportunity for parents, when they

see the inappropriate videos to report them to YouTube so they don't

come up in future searchs for other kids and you can teach their kids if

they hear videos with inappropriate language which sometimes going to

happen, you cannot protect that from ever happening entirely. If you

teach them how to report the videos, that can protect future kids. Sonia?

We have a lot of voice recognition software that can understand what's

being said, I don't understand why YouTube doesn't use that technology

to flag them as inappropriate for children and then we don't have to

rely on each individual parent flagging. Good idea. Thank you.

An exclusive interview with a man suffering from an incurable

He wants the Government to change the law over assisted suicide.

Hear his story later in the programme.

Next, this programme has learnt that the Government is to respond

to fears a police risk assessment form has been used in a "racist" way

Promoters and licensees in many areas are asked to complete a "Form

696" before hosting some music events featuring "DJs and MCs".

Culture Minister Matt Hancock is set to raise concerns

with London Mayor Sadiq Khan about the use of the form in London.

The Met Police denies the voluntary form targets

Our reporter Chi Chi Izundu bought you the full story at 9.15am.

Here's a short extract from that film.

The Metropolitan Police promotion event risk assessment form 696

was introduced back in 2005 after a spate of violent

Like, you're targeting a specific genre of music that you know

a certain demographic is going to listen to.

You haven't written anything about any other type of demographic.

They can say it's not racist, but it's definitely targeted, which,

The Met says the form does not target specific genres of music,

But the BBC has found a number of forces across England who have

adopted a version to ask those questions, like Leicestershire

police, who want details on the ethnic make-up

Northamptonshire Police told us they are open

We generally know what the ethnic make-up is going to be

from what comes in anyway, so by risk assessing them

we can then make sure that we identify problems,

work with promoters and venues, to make sure that all them

Many other types of genres and gigs, they don't have to do the form.

Say, for example, Ed Sheeran had a show, and a fight broke out,

then he's not going to do a 696 form on his next arena tour, he's not.

It's different for them. Why is it different?

We did ask a number of promoters and venue owners to appear in this

film, but a lot said No over fears that they or their event

Because for years there have been rumours about a police

blacklist with acts, their followers,

Now some licensees are telling us that they are having constructive

conversations with the police over form 696.

And to quote one promoter, on ways to get around the system.

That same promoter, though, asks, why should he have

We've been talking to central licensing and we've done some good

work with initiating a conversation because we said that there is a real

concern around 696s and particularly how it plays out

with certain genres of music and certain demographics.

Particularly around grime and garage.

We brought some managers and labels in together

with the promoters and said that we would address it.

We actually think that there should be a review of

We think that it has got challenges and it is flawed.

But despite those conversations and the accusations that the form

does target certain genres of music there are no plans to

Let's talk to Post Diddy, a grime scene veteran

who runs the GRM Daily blog, Vincent Olutayo from an organisation

called Urban Development which helps young people get

Alan Miller is campaigning to get Form 696 reviewed -

he's from the Night Time Industries Association.

Jenna Jarrett works in the music industry and is a grime fan.

It form 696 racist? I believe so. I feel it is an infringement on civil

liberties and a form of racial discrimination even the form itself

refers to an MC and a disc jockey which is clearly an attack at grime

and sort of garage events. I mean old form referred to what kind of

minorities were attending the event, whether it was ethnic minorities...

Not anymore. Not anymore. But it is voluntary. Not many venues have to

fill this form in. It's voluntary? Yeah, of course, it is. I feel like

the police, you know, tend to bully like actual events and you know,

actual clubs and stuff and let them know that if they don't actually

fill out the form then they can threaten their licences and stuff

like that which is really cruel. Right. I mean we haven't got any

evidence of that in particular. What the Met say is, effectively it is

about protecting people like yourself, people who go to these

nights and it's about your security? I agree it's about security, but I

don't see why as you were saying why they target kind of disc jockeys and

MCs when primarily, the majority of MCs are black and I don't see why

they have to kind of target people in that way. If you were going to an

event and it was aimed at middle-class and it was like disco

music, I can't see, you'd have to fill out a 696. The Met say it will

only become a condition of a licence when serious public disorder

occurred at a venue? I agree and doing research, they do it from low

risk to high risk. If they spoke and let people know how they categorize

it and identify low risk and high risk the venues can work with them

and understand what they need to do to prevent the event being shutdown,

but they don't reveal how they measure it. That's right. Vincent

the form does say recommended guidance to music event, organisers,

management and of licensed premises or event promoter on when to

complete the form, featuring DJs or MCs performing to a recorded backing

track? Just from the guidance alone you can see the criteria is

specific. So I think that's where the issues have come about in the

fom. It feels discriminatory in that it narrows the use of it. If you are

looking at MCs and DJs and those sorts of genres as far as the music

landscape is concerned, it is very much grime and hip-hop and very much

garage. Again, if we're looking at it from a racial prospective if you

like, can be perceived as very much within the black music sector. So I

think that's specifically where the issues have come from. If it was

blank in the sense that there were no guidance around specific genres

or per se then I don't believe there would be that much opposition to the

form because it would be a level playing field for everybody. Let's

put that to Keith Price he is a Conservative councillor. If it was

non discriminatory and fair, then surely all music events would have

to complete it? I can see what you're saying. The issue is around

about keeping people safe though, isn't it? Therefore all music events

should have to complete it? Well, I'm not disagreeing that all events

should have to complete it. My problem is that clearly, by having

these forms, we are able to keep more people safe. So I don't see

that as being a problem myself. Right. But potentially you would be

able to keep even more people safe if every venue had to fill it in?

Well, I don't disagree with that. But I do disagree with not having a

form, just... INAUDIBLE

Because people perceive it to a particular culture. I don't think it

is. At the end the end of the day everybody likes garage and MCs and

hip-hop and I don't think it is aimed at any race or creed and these

forms have been proach to be effective and that's what it is

about keeping people safe. Alan, what do you say in terms of the

future use of this form? Well, we're calling for a review because I mean

firstly people say it's voluntary, but the amount of pressure and it

depends which police force, but the amount of pressure that's put on

licencees and promote tors do it means it is not really optional in

many cases. It is pretty much mant dre tree and if you don't go along

with it, you are put under enormous pressure. Safety, no one in their

right mind would disagree with in the abstract or specifics, everyone

being safe, when you get specific about what it means is, what it

means is that certain activity and certain genres and certain people

are prioritised in a particular way if there happens to have been an ins

didn't and fight in the way that others aren't. Put that back to

Keith Price who is the Conservative on the London Assembly? It is Keith

Prince by the way. I'm sorry. I don't get it. What's the beef? It

keeps people safe. Have the organisers got a problem with

filling ourt a form that keeps people safe? Yes, it would be better

if more people were to fill out the form and if it was to apply to

everybody in the industry, of course, but have they really got a

problem with filling out a form that keeps people safe? How do you

respond? You haven't addressed that it is a form of discrimination.

You're clearly attacking a certain group of people and a certain group

of artists in a country that encourages people to create a

sustainable income for themselves, you have to consider the adverse

effects that these forms are presenting to them and you haven't

really addressed the situation. How do you feel about that?

At the end of the day, I think going to all organisations is right and

proper, if it's working in one particular sector of the music

industry, the entertain. Industry, why not roll it out to all the

sectors, I haven't an issue with that. I have an issue with people

saying it shouldn't be done because it affects just one particular

section. But I agree, it shouldn't just be aimed at one particular

section. It should apply to the whole of the industry. That's good.

The fact it's keeping people safe, that's good too. So, I don't see the

problem other than having to ultimately address the issue that

maybe it should be used for everybody, otherwise I don't see the

problem. I am not sure this thing about keeping people safe that

actually happens, we see there are incidents in life, there is an

attempt in British society to have a completely risk averse world where

nothing happens but things do happen. There is a different

response if we call it what it is, if there is a fight with a group of

white guys at a club or a bar or outside, there is a different

response sometimes in terms of tagging that incident to the DJs and

promoters, than there is if there is a grime night or garage night. It's

like there is not an intention of a particular officer to do that, but

there is a broader thing that happens that ends up having that

effect. The context of that, even if you end up saying let's roll out

more of these forms in all these different places, it doesn't address

the actual problem because there is a different nuanced and context

that's put on with particular types of genres and activity and that's

more of a legacy of some thinking and attitudes and approaches which

has been more endemic for an ongoing period in Britain that we need to

address. Just to add what the Met Police tell us, information provided

on this form gives police details of a promoted event before it takes

place so that research of the event can be carried out and where

necessary in consultation with local police additional measures can be

put in place to mitigate any risks. They point out they rarely cancel

any event. Would you agree with Keith Prince, the London Assembly

member, that this form should be extended to all venues? Not at all,

because not until we tackle the entire premise of the form in the

first place. I think once we look at the premise of the form and

understand that it is discriminatory and is very much targeted to a

particular sector and genre and we aleave ate that as the issue, then

we can look at the issue of how do we then keep people safe in these

venues? The issue is the fact is that as you said previously, the

problem is generally with the venues, not necessarily with the

promoters or artists or musicians. However, the form asks for names,

addresses and details of every single musician that is going to be

performing. It's almost like saying if you have a trouble at a football

match that every one of the players is responsible for whatever the fans

do at that match. Or, whatever the club does or the security or lack of

security that the club offers. So I think until we are able to address

that, the specific inception of the form, then no, I don't think we

should be rolling it out because you are rolling out a bad problem

essentially. Thank you all. Appreciate your time, thank you.

You can watch the fulfil am on form 696 on our programme page. And you

can read plenty more about it on the BBC news website. One of the most

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An exclusive interview with a man suffering from an incurable,

He wants the Government to change the law over assisted suicide.

Hear his story later in the programme.

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back after 11.00am on BBC News. This morning an exclusive interview

with a father who wants to change the law to allow people

with incurable conditions which badly affect their quality

of life to end their life The 54-year-old father,

who wants us to only use his first name, Omid,

was diagnosed in 2014 with a rare degenerative disease,

which is not terminal, but is incurable, it means

he is largely confined Assisted suicide is currently

unlawful in the UK, but Omid is seeking to take his case

to the High Court. His lawyers have asked

for a full hearing. The judgment is expected to be

announced in the coming days. Our reporter Jean MacKenzie has

spent some time with Omid. This is his first ever interview,

and his speech is very much He's difficult to hear,

but we hope you'll stick with him. What's going to happen

in the future? How is your condition

going to progress? When did you decide

that you would rather There have been a number of attempts

to pass assisted dying bills through parliament

but they have not been successful, why do you think there is opposition

to this? And why would it make your

life better if you had So you have an incurable disease

and part of what you want from the courts is to

recognise that people with incurable diseases,

even if they have a long time to live,

should have the right to choose how But what if, one day,

your condition was curable? And how do you feel

about growing old with your Saimo Chahal is Omid's lawyer,

she also represented Debbie Purdey and Tony Nicklinson,

two other people who have gone to court to change

the law on Assisted Dying. Just going through the key reasons

that you will be putting, that you hope to put to the High Court to try

to persuade judges on this. On behalf of Omid, obviously. Yes, so

Omid is asking for the ban on assisted suicide to be lifted. He

suffered from an incurable condition. So he has years of pain

and misery ahead of him. He says that he has made the decision that

he doesn't want that sort of life and that he should have the right to

be able to decide when he can die. He wants doctors to be able to help

him end his life. That's right. He has already attempted suicide once.

That was in March 2015. He took about 30 pills. It was unsuccessful.

He doesn't want to have another go in case it goes wrong and he ends up

in a worse condition so what he wants is the help of a doctor to

have a painless and a safe death. You have to recognise that suicide

itself is legal and were he able to do it himself painlessly and safely

he would do so but he can't because of his condition. He's already

tried. He has failed. He wants a safe and painless death. At the

moment his only option is to go to Switzerland to do it there. What he

says is why should he have to do that? Why should he have to travel

in his condition abroad to have a death? He would need an air

ambulance, it would be a logistical nightmare for that to be organised.

It would be extremely costly. He doesn't have any money. Hence, I

think in trying to raise money on a crowdfunding website to pay for his

legal case. He can go through at arguments that have become familiar

to us in this country around this debate, that what if somebody

changes their mind, what if they feel under pressure to have help