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It's Thursday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling -

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Jeremy Corbyn comes out fighting on day one of the election campaign.

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He's says he has every chance of winning and a vote for him

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Are we going to be a country which works only to make the richest even

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richer? I know which side I'm on, you know which side you're on, this

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election is going to be fought on the streets of this country!

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The Labour leader will make his first speech

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of the campaign a little later - we'll bring that to you live.

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And we'll be talking to politicians from all the main parties

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on mental health this week, we'll speak a group of people

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preparing to run the London Marathon to raise awareness.

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It was quite a significant incident, with me wanting to end my life, I

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thought, I have got to tell him how low and serious things work, for me

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to get to that point where I thought I could kill myself, basically.

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And the chat app being blamed for encouraging bullying.

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We'll be asking if SimSimi should be banned.

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Hello and welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

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Serena Williams has revealed she's 20 weeks pregnant with her first

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child by sharing this close-up of her growing bump on social media.

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The tennis star even managed to win the Australian Open in January

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when she was already about eight weeks pregnant.

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Pretty impressive - but perhaps you can outdo her?

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Tell us what you've achieved while pregnant.

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Does it annoy you if people think you can't do stuff because you're

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pregnant? Do get in touch on all the stories

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we're talking about this morning - And if you text, you will be charged

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at the standard network rate. Jeremy Corbyn will set

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out his pitch to voters this morning as he tries to become

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the next Prime Minister. In a speech the Labour leader

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will say that he'll stand up for the British people

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who "are the true wealth creators, held back by a system rigged

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for wealth extractors". Last night on the campaign trail,

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Theresa May said the public faced a choice between her "strong

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and stable leadership" Here's our political

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correspondent Alex Forsyth. The campaigning can start

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in earnest, now the election date has been set -

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and the party leaders Jeremy Corbyn's pitch

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is as the anti-establishment party. He'll promise not

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to play by the rules, and say Labour will stand up

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for British people in a system rigged to favour the rich -

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a message he hinted at it Are we going to be a country

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that works only to make This election is going to be fought

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on the streets of this country, up and down, in town halls,

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in streets, on beaches, Theresa May wants to exploit

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what she sees as Mr Corbyn's weakness, choosing the Labour-held

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seat of Bolton for her She said only the Conservatives can

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deliver the security It's a choice between strong

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and stable leadership under the Conservatives,

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or weak and unstable coalition Expect the campaign messages to come

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thick and fast from every party The race is on, the battle lines

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drawn - and they know just what's at stake -

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not just their futures, Our political guru Norman Smith

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is in Westminster. The thinking of Jeremy Corbyn's team

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is, that this message worked pretty well in his leadership contests, and

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they think that maybe out in the electorate, there is a broader move

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where people just feel fed up with business as usual. They resent the

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fact that nothing ever seems to change, that the wealthy carry on

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keeping all the money, and there is an appetite for upheaval, for doing

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things differently. In a way, you sense, he almost has to do this

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because the polls suggest Mr Corbyn is so far behind committee can't

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fight a conventional campaign, he's got to do things differently. The

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question is whether the rules of the game really have changed, as Mr

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Corbyn believes, and there is an appetite out there in the country

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for doing things very differently, four, in Mr Corbyn's words, ripping

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up the rules. We will have more from Norman later. And also some MPs as

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well. Annita McVeigh is in the BBC

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Newsroom with a summary Scientists have discovered

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drugs which may be able to stop Alzheimer's,

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Parkinson's and a wide range One of them is already safely given

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to people with depression. Clinical trials are planned,

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but the findings so far have been described as exciting,

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important and potentially There would be a daily

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dose, basically. We would probably use trazodone

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first, which is already We cannot cure these things,

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but if we can stop them in their tracks and change the way

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they progress, we can radically change the course of the natural

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history of diseases like Alzheimer's Police may now have to shoot

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at terrorists who use cars as weapons, a senior

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officer has said. The national lead for armed

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policing, Simon Chesterman, said the tactics of armed officers

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will have to change following a string of attacks

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involving vehicles. In the past, police have been told

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not to shoot drivers of moving The Culture Secretary,

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Karen Bradley, has strongly defended the Conservatives' commitment

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to aid spending. the Conservatives' commitment

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to foreign aid spending. Her comments come as Microsoft

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founder Bill Gates urged the UK to retain its pledge to spend 0.7%

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of GDP on international aid, saying it was proof

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of its goodwill and humanity. There's been mounting speculation

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the pledge could be dropped in the Tory manifesto,

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with the Prime Minister refusing to commit to it

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when pressed yesterday. But Karen Bradley said she was proud

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of the Government's record. I am not here to speculate on what may or may

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not be in the manifesto. But I voted for the Parliament which put the

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0.7% into legislation. I am very proud of the record of this

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government in delivering for those most in need across the world.

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Britain will be a leading force in that.

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Debenhams has revealed plans to review the future of ten

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It is to close 11 of its warehouses, including one of its major

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distributions centres, which employs more than 200 people.

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It's part of a turnaround strategy announced by the new chief

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executive of the chain, which reported a 6.4% fall

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A 17-year-old Formula 4 driver who was involved in a crash

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at Donington Park has had both his legs amputated.

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Billy Monger ran into the back of another car which appeared

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to have stopped on the track during the race on Sunday.

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The teenager had to be extracted from his vehicle

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A JustGiving page set up to raise money for his care has

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The American Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, has given a strong

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indication that America could walk away from the deal with Iran

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He accused Tehran of "alarming ongoing provocations" and said

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the deal ignored other serious threats posed by the country.

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US and South Korean troops are taking part in a military

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exercise involving aircraft carriers and fighter jets.

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The government in Washington said the 11-day exercises

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But tensions are especially high on the Korean peninsula.

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Of course, that first round in the election on

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Emmanuel Macron believes in globalisation and the European

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Union. His closest challenger is the far right leader Marine Le Pen,

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who's promising a referendum on France's membership of the EU and

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says she will stop all immigration. One of the most high-profile figures

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in American television news, Bill O'Reilly, has lost his job over

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allegations of sexual harassment. His employer, 21st Century Fox,

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which owns the cable channel Fox News, said he would not be

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returning from a break. Mr O'Reilly called the allegations

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against him unfounded. Cycling to work could halve

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the risk of developing heart disease and cancer,

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according to new research published today in the

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British Medical Journal. Scientists at the University

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of Glasgow, who analysed data from more than 250,000 people,

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said walking reduced the risk Our reporter Vishala

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Sri-Pathma has more. The commute to work,

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for some, is the only Well, for those of us that

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cycle to the office, Experts from the University of

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Glasgow say that it reduces the risk of developing cancer

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and heart disease. In fact, cycling to work

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is linked to a 45% lower risk of developing cancer,

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and a 46% lower threat That compares to driving,

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or even taking public transport. It also means you're less

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likely to die younger. Walking has its benefits,

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too, although it's not You have to walk a total of two

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hours a week at an average speed of 3mph for the health

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benefits to kick in. So, we need to make it easier

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for people to cycle. So, we need to increase cycle lanes,

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we need to have cycle - city hire schemes, subsidised bike

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schemes, have people have showers at work,

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so they don't feel sweaty There's a whole host

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of things to make it easier And if we can do that,

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we get more people on our bikes, and then we're going to improve

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public health, just like places like Charities have

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welcomed the findings. Cancer Research UK says it's

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evidence that you don't need to join a gym or run the marathon,

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and that anything that gets you hot and out of breath can help

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make a difference. You have been getting in touch about

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Jeremy Corbyn. This one says, we don't deserve Jeremy Corbyn, he's

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far too clean for politics, having spent decades standing up for

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ordinary people. This one says, that man's ego will give the Tories

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another five years in power. Let us know your thoughts as we begin this

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seven-week election campaign. What would you like to see in the

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different parties' manifestos? Do get in touch on all the stories

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we're talking about this morning - And if you text, you will be charged

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at the standard network rate. Let's catch up with the sport, with

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John. So, Serena Williams was eight weeks pregnant, it turns out, when

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she won the Australian Open? Absolutely. She put up this picture,

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with the caption, saying, 20 weeks. Everybody obviously thought that she

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was pregnant. It was not confirmed until last night from has bugs

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person, because she actually took that post down. It's going to be

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incredible for her, her first child. For tennis fans, a little bit of

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disappointment, because if you were hoping to see her play at Wimbledon

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later this year, she won't be, and it is now likely that she will miss

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the next three Grand Slams. So, has she said when she thinks she might

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be back on the circuit? Yeah, you wonder, don't you? Incredible that

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she was possibly eight weeks pregnant when she won the Australian

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Open earlier this year. Now, of course, she's going to miss the rest

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of the season. We wonder when she will be back. If it is seven months

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potentially after the birth of her first child, she could be back for

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the French Open next year, in 2018. We think that is possible. Victoria

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Azarenka gave birth to her first child, another top player, in

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December, and she is targeting an end of July return. So, the French

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Open would be a possibility for Serena. Under the ranking rules in

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tennis, as long as she plays in her first tournament within 12 months,

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she can retain her ranking? Yeah, it's interesting the way it works.

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She is actually set to return to the top of the rankings, despite having

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not played since the Australian Open. She has been struggling with

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an injury. She is going to return to the top of the rankings, and yes,

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they will freeze that for a certain amount of time. It will be

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interesting to see. But certainly, fantastic news for Serena Williams,

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and we will wait to see when she returns to the tour. What do you

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think? Have you achieved anything particularly notable when you've

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been pregnant, or does it annoy you when people think that you can't do

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stuff when you're pregnant? Please get in touch with us.

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Politicians are wasting no time trying to get your vote.

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The decision to hold an election will have taken many by surprise,

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and the relatively short time-scale means the pressure is on to finalise

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policies and deliver a clear message to voters.

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Later in the programme we'll hear live from Jeremy Corbyn.

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He was giving his first speech of the campaign at 10:30am.

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First here's a look at some of the differences between the two

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-- he will be giving his first speech of the campaign at 10:30am.

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It will come as no surprise that the big issues in the general

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Prime Minister Theresa May will see it as a chance

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while others will be delighted with the opportunity

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So, how could the main policy areas play out under Brexit?

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Expect a revival of the debate over immigration.

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The Conservatives believe, as part of Brexit, the current system,

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where EU citizens can move freely between countries, should

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be replaced so migration can be controlled.

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Labour also accept that the current system has to go.

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They say the new one must work for businesses and communities.

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Ukip has said it's committed to reducing net migration

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The biggest factor for the economy will be the deal any future prime

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Theresa May has made clear her view that the UK should withdraw

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from the single market and seek a new customs arrangement and free

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Others question whether this could be done in a two-year

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time frame and protect the interests of businesses.

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Labour say in any future deal the UK must retain the exact same

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benefits that membership of the single market

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Nicola Sturgeon wants Scotland to be able to decide its own future

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Her calls for a second referendum have so far fallen on deaf ears,

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with Theresa May ruling it out before Brexit is completed.

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Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has said he would be absolutely fine

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with a second independence referendum in Scotland.

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An ageing population, staff shortages and claims of low

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morale amongst employees means the NHS will be a key

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Opponents have claimed the system is in crisis and have called

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Mrs May, however, has rejected such claims.

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Donald Trump's not afraid of hitting the headlines,

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and the UK's relationship with the US president could be

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Theresa May has previously invited President Trump

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here on a state visit, and was pictured

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Opposition leaders, however, criticised her for her perceived

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inability to challenge President Trump

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Theresa May's been keen to cut the welfare bill,

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with proposed changes to disability benefits being criticised.

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Other parties will say the most vulnerable in society should be

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Conservatives will point to a falling unemployment rate,

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while Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has made it clear workers' rights

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Labour and the Lib Dems will lead the charge campaigning

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against an education system that they say is

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Theresa May has made clear her wish for more grammar schools.

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Clearly, politicians have got their work cut out to put

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on all these issues, especially in just seven weeks.

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Well, let's get more from our political guru Norman Smith.

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Guess what I dug out of my ball control this morning, how sad is

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that? -- my bottom draw this morning. The manifestos of the four

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parties at the last election, giving details of everything from rubbish

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collection to nuclear war. They have not been written yet but we have

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some idea of what is likely to be in them. Here is my hope Fico the tide

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of what is likely to be in and out of the two main parties manifesto.

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Labour first, Jeremy Corbyn, I expect we can expect things on

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pensions, paid, free school meals. Let me go through that in a bit more

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detail, pensioners, genomic organ has said he is going to keep the

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pension lot, which ensures that pensions go up by 2.5% or earnings

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or inflation, whichever is the greatest. On page, he has pledged to

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increase the living wage to ?10 an hour, also talking about pay grades

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of companies so that the boss can only get paid summary times the

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lowest paid person and free school meals for all family schoolchildren

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to be paid for by ending the VAT exemption on private school fees.

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But almost as important as what is in a manifesto is what is written

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out of manifestos. So let's just take a look at what Mr Corbyn might

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choose the right out from his manifesto. I think we need to look

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at immigration. Ed Miliband was imposing various curbs on it,

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ensuring that migrants are to be here for two years to make sure they

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can claim. Mr Corbyn saying it is not Labour's aim to end free

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movement, so that might the bin. What else might? Private health

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care. Ed Miliband was relaxed about that, he was happy for it to

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continue, Mr Corbyn much less so. He says he one cigarette of private

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health care from the National Health Service that might too go in the

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bin. Those are the sort of ins and outs of the Jeremy Corbyn manifesto.

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What about Theresa May. What might we expect her to put in her

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manifesto? Things I expect to see in it, grammar schools, so-called tea

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levels, and protecting the union. Grammar schools, Mrs May has made no

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secret she believes there ought to be selection reintroduced for a new

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generation of youngsters, some one, and the union, she will want a --

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T-Levels. And the union. However, there are certain key things that I

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think we can expect and we will be looking very closely to see if

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Theresa May drugs, particularly things that David Cameron was pretty

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keen on. What are the areas that could go? Those pension benefits,

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such as free television licences, guaranteeing the winter fuel

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allowance, allowing pensioners free travel and looking at triple lock in

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deciding letters to expensive, because it is thought to cost around

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?6 billion a year. What else might you? The budget surplus and the

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deficit. In the Chancellor has already pretty much waved goodbye to

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George Osborne's commitment of balancing the books by the end of

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this Parliament and has not given us a fresh trade for balancing those

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books. Lastly, of course, age. One of the most contentious areas, David

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Cameron, a very high-profile policy commitment to ensuring that Suroor

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.7% of our total earnings close towards overseas aid. They lot of

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Conservatives are unhappy about that. Mrs May when pressed about

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that refused to confirm she would give that so the signs are certain

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key planks of the Cameron agenda could be dropped by Theresa May. The

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other interesting thing is that we expect these manifestos to be a lots

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of the previous ones. We now Mrs May thought David Cameron's manifesto

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was far too bulky. So she wants to slimming down. As for the other

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parties, they are in a rush. They're having to write their manifestos.

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Well, joining me now in the studio are two people who can tell us

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Sam Tarry used to be a spokesman for Jeremy Corbyn and is in regular

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And Mark Wallace is executive editor of the influential

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Tory grassroots website, Conservative Home.

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Thank you both for joining us. When the parties are considering the

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manifestos, they will be mindful of the Brexit backdrop and the question

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as to whether this will be an election fought on traditional

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battle grounds and party differences or whether remain and levers at the

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forefront of mines. What is your thoughts on how should tackle that

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one? I think clearly Brexit will be a huge part of the election.

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Labour's priority will be what this post Brexit Britain look like. If

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you compare what the Tories are proposing under before driving a

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hard Brexit agenda, we don't want to crash out and have World Trade

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Organisation deals that mean workers get paid less. Talking about triple

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lock on pensions just a second ago. These sorts of things I think I'm

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real danger in a hard Brexit. That was him to be careering towards. The

:24:51.:24:55.

fact that Theresa May could not get a seal from a single other European

:24:56.:24:59.

country over the past few weeks, in terms of that initial contact and

:25:00.:25:03.

engagement is pretty frightening. Just to get complete clarity on the

:25:04.:25:09.

hard Brexit community not being part of the single market and

:25:10.:25:11.

prioritising freedom of movement. And I think as well that they have

:25:12.:25:16.

threatened to go for a low tax economy. They will essentially be a

:25:17.:25:22.

Brexit that is not a people's Brexit, a Brexit that benefit

:25:23.:25:25.

everybody global corporation, and I think that people in Britain are a

:25:26.:25:29.

little bit fed up with that. It is about time ordinary people come

:25:30.:25:34.

first. Brexit is the factor without Theresa May does the government

:25:35.:25:37.

would not have come into being, so part of the challenge for prime

:25:38.:25:39.

ministers is that you have to fulfil the fact is in the power that you

:25:40.:25:43.

also have to make sure you have the opportunity to do similar things in

:25:44.:25:49.

between and remember David Cameron never wanted to be the austerity

:25:50.:25:52.

Prime Minister but the financial crisis was the backdrop to him

:25:53.:25:57.

becoming a minister. Theresa May was sitting out a very clear and swift

:25:58.:26:01.

message on exactly she will deliver Brexit but that will also mean with

:26:02.:26:04.

this election it will give her another three years, if she wins,

:26:05.:26:07.

after fulfilling Brexit to develop a wider agenda. She has said about not

:26:08.:26:15.

wanting her hands tied previously by what has happened in Parliament, in

:26:16.:26:20.

terms of having to spell out the Conservative government on Brexit.

:26:21.:26:23.

Those that exactly what will happen now with her having to draw up a

:26:24.:26:27.

manifesto and making clear what the red lines are. She has set out some

:26:28.:26:34.

red lines, since the Conservative Party Conference back in October,

:26:35.:26:39.

and Lancashire house, then when she declared the election, she said we

:26:40.:26:42.

should take back control of our money, our borders and our laws.

:26:43.:26:46.

Those were the three central planks of the vote Leave campaign last

:26:47.:26:50.

year. The interesting thing is that none of that guarantees what you

:26:51.:26:54.

call a low tax Brexit or whatever. What that guarantees is that the

:26:55.:26:57.

British people get from here on out every election how their country

:26:58.:27:00.

should be governed. If we stay in the single market, you don't have

:27:01.:27:04.

control of your immigration policy, you don't have full control of your

:27:05.:27:08.

laws because the European court of justice stays in charge. She is

:27:09.:27:13.

re-establishing our democracy. She is fulfilling Brexit, not harder

:27:14.:27:17.

soft, just the only when there is. Sam, I know you are in regular

:27:18.:27:20.

contact with Jeremy Corbyn, he says bring on this election, is he up the

:27:21.:27:26.

when you talk to him? He is actually pretty fired up. Jeremy is at his

:27:27.:27:33.

element when he's talking to people face-to-face on the doorsteps across

:27:34.:27:36.

written. He had a rough ride in the press. He is really up to this. He

:27:37.:27:42.

is saying, look, we have a crisis, so many elements, the NHS, it is

:27:43.:27:47.

like being back in the 90s, the fag end of the last Tory government, the

:27:48.:27:51.

four lying in hospital trolleys, we have a situation of crisis funding

:27:52.:27:57.

in our schools. I came in today on the tube didn't have to get on

:27:58.:28:01.

Southern Rail. Another absolute disaster overseen by the Tory

:28:02.:28:05.

government. Jeremy will say look, we can't just pretend that Brexit is

:28:06.:28:09.

the only thing this election is about. It is about how do we deal

:28:10.:28:14.

with Brexit but also the crisis in our country? If you have the

:28:15.:28:17.

policies that Goldman has put forward just over the last couple of

:28:18.:28:21.

weeks over the Easter weekend, very much focused on domestic policy. How

:28:22.:28:25.

do you help the 6 million people that are carers at home, how do you

:28:26.:28:29.

actually put more money back into the Exchequer by increasing the

:28:30.:28:32.

minimum wage question Jeremy Corbyn is right, isn't he? Those are the

:28:33.:28:36.

issues that matter to people on a daily basis, what is going on in the

:28:37.:28:42.

NHS, care, schools. Brexit, we have had the debate. It is undoubtedly

:28:43.:28:47.

true that of course all these issues matter, and whoever wins the general

:28:48.:28:49.

election will be in charge, not just for Brexit, but for the whole

:28:50.:28:56.

governments of the nation. We will hear a lot about it. Jeremy Corbyn

:28:57.:29:00.

certainly does have a tough time in the media that he is also giving the

:29:01.:29:05.

Labour Party a tough time on the doorstep, and the big question will

:29:06.:29:07.

be how important is Theresa May you'll feel. By what she called

:29:08.:29:17.

those burning injustices, and how radical can she be as a result of

:29:18.:29:20.

the fact they feel that Labour is not too serious a challenge?

:29:21.:29:25.

Marksaeng that Jeremy Corbyn is a problem for Labour on the doorstep,

:29:26.:29:29.

what are you say to that? Every election is about 650 seats, and a

:29:30.:29:34.

Rossoblu factors. Some people are saying it is a foregone conclusion

:29:35.:29:37.

but I don't think that at all and I think there are an awful lot of

:29:38.:29:40.

things that will take place over the next 50 days. Jeremy's policies are

:29:41.:29:44.

incredibly popular and when people actually go out and speak to people

:29:45.:29:47.

on the doorstep and say we are going to transform your lives, rather than

:29:48.:29:52.

just the broken promises of the Tories. Real practical policies. We

:29:53.:29:57.

need a situation where if we are going into Brexit, we need a serious

:29:58.:30:01.

plan for investment. Where is the investment programme for this

:30:02.:30:05.

government. Jeremy has a plan that says we will rebuild Britain in the

:30:06.:30:07.

interests of ordinary people after Brexit. I think that is something

:30:08.:30:12.

that has resonance with people. Thank you both very much. Keep your

:30:13.:30:16.

thoughts coming in, we have several weeks to go until the election.

:30:17.:30:22.

The BBC has been following ten runners with mental health issues

:30:23.:30:25.

who are taking part in the big race on Sunday for the Princes'

:30:26.:30:30.

charity Heads Together - we will speak to some

:30:31.:30:32.

of them about how it's changed their lives

:30:33.:30:34.

SimSimi is one of the fastest growing apps

:30:35.:30:36.

But is it being used as a tool for bullying?

:30:37.:30:41.

Find out more, a little later on the programme.

:30:42.:30:48.

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:30:49.:30:57.

Jeremy Corbyn will use his first major speech of the election

:30:58.:31:02.

campaign to argue that he will stand up for the British people against

:31:03.:31:06.

what he calls a rigged the system. He will reject the idea that the

:31:07.:31:09.

outcome of the election is a foregone conclusion. You can watch

:31:10.:31:13.

that speech live on this channel at about half past ten this morning.

:31:14.:31:16.

The Culture Secretary Karen Bradley has strongly defended

:31:17.:31:19.

the Conservatives' commitment to foreign aid spending.

:31:20.:31:21.

Her comments come as the Microsoft founder Bill Gates urged the UK

:31:22.:31:24.

to retain its pledge to spend 0.7% of GDP on international aid,

:31:25.:31:28.

saying it was proof of its goodwill and humanity.

:31:29.:31:32.

There has been speculation the pledge could be dropped

:31:33.:31:35.

Scientists have discovered drugs which may be able

:31:36.:31:47.

to stop Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and a wide range

:31:48.:31:49.

One of them is already safely given to people with depression.

:31:50.:31:52.

Clinical trials are planned, but the findings so far have been

:31:53.:31:55.

described as exciting, important and potentially

:31:56.:31:56.

There would be a daily dose, basically.

:31:57.:32:04.

We would probably use trazodone first, which is already

:32:05.:32:07.

We cannot cure these things, but if we can stop them

:32:08.:32:11.

in their tracks and change the way they progress, we can radically

:32:12.:32:14.

change the course of the natural history of diseases like Alzheimer's

:32:15.:32:17.

Cycling to work could halve the risk of developing

:32:18.:32:30.

heart disease and cancer, according to new research

:32:31.:32:31.

published today in the British Medical Journal.

:32:32.:32:33.

Scientists at the University of Glasgow, who analysed data

:32:34.:32:42.

from more than 250,000 people, said walking reduced the risk

:32:43.:32:45.

Debenhams has revealed plans to review the future of ten

:32:46.:32:53.

It's to close 11 of its warehouses - including one of its major

:32:54.:32:57.

distributions centres, which employs more than 200 people.

:32:58.:32:59.

It's part of a turnaround strategy announced by the new chief

:33:00.:33:02.

executive of the chain, which reported a 6.4% fall

:33:03.:33:04.

That is a summary of the news. More at ten o'clock. Time for the sport,

:33:05.:33:12.

with John. Serena Williams has revealed that

:33:13.:33:16.

she's pregnant with her first child. This is how she told the world -

:33:17.:33:19.

posting a photograph on social media That means she was pregnant

:33:20.:33:22.

when she won the Australian Open in January, a record 23rd

:33:23.:33:30.

Grand Slam title. Andy Murray said he was still

:33:31.:33:33.

feeling a little rusty, his serve especially,

:33:34.:33:35.

after winning his first competitive match after a month out

:33:36.:33:38.

with an elbow injury. He beat Gilles Muller

:33:39.:33:42.

to reach the third round of Lions head coach Warren Gatland has

:33:43.:33:45.

defended his squad selection for this summer's tour

:33:46.:33:49.

to New Zealand. He picked 16 English players,

:33:50.:33:53.

12 Welsh, 11 Irish, but only He's picked Sam Warburton

:33:54.:33:56.

as captain, but Gatland insisted that nationality hadn't come

:33:57.:33:59.

into his thinking. Dylan Hartley was left

:34:00.:34:03.

out of the Lions squad, but he'll captain England

:34:04.:34:09.

in their tour of Argentina. The party also includes

:34:10.:34:13.

rugby league convert And Barcelona are out

:34:14.:34:14.

of the Champions League. Hoping to overturn a 3-0 first leg

:34:15.:34:20.

deficit, it finished goalless with Juventus in last

:34:21.:34:23.

night's second leg. Prince Harry said this week

:34:24.:34:34.

that his life spiralled into chaos after blocking out feelings

:34:35.:34:44.

about his mother's And Prince William admitted he still

:34:45.:34:45.

lives with the shock of losing her. Their openness is all part

:34:46.:34:52.

of their Heads Together campaign, which is encouraging people to have

:34:53.:34:55.

conversations about mental health and this year they're the official

:34:56.:34:58.

charity of the Virgin Money London Tonight, a BBC programme follows

:34:59.:35:01.

a group of 10 runners affected by mental health issues

:35:02.:35:04.

as they prepare for We'll be joined by some

:35:05.:35:06.

of them in a moment, but first, let's see

:35:07.:35:11.

a clip of Prince William I still feel, 20 years later, about

:35:12.:35:20.

my mother, I still have shock within me. People go, shock, it can't last

:35:21.:35:27.

that long, but it does. You never over it, it is such an unbelievably

:35:28.:35:30.

big moment in your life that it never leaves you, you just learn to

:35:31.:35:32.

deal with it. Georgina is one of the runners

:35:33.:35:34.

in the BBC documentary. Here's a short clip of her talking

:35:35.:35:36.

to another runner, Rhian. What do your parents think about you

:35:37.:35:44.

doing this? It took me awhile to tell them exactly what was going on.

:35:45.:35:47.

They knew I was off work but I guess they did not know the depth the

:35:48.:35:53.

reasons. After quite a significant incident, with me wanting to end my

:35:54.:35:56.

life by walking into the sea, I thought, I've got to tell them. I

:35:57.:36:01.

wanted to tell them how low and serious things were, for me to get

:36:02.:36:04.

to that point where I thought I could just easily kill myself,

:36:05.:36:05.

basically. We're joined now by four

:36:06.:36:08.

runners taking part in the Virgin Money London Marathon

:36:09.:36:10.

for Heads Together, Georgina Lloyd-Pugh,

:36:11.:36:12.

Leane Stevenson and Paul and Norman Thank you all of you for coming in.

:36:13.:36:20.

Are you two heading off straightaway? Yeah, ready to go.

:36:21.:36:28.

Yesterday it was in the press, obviously, with Her Royal Highness,

:36:29.:36:32.

it was a great experience. The Royals are so fantastic, this is

:36:33.:36:35.

trailblazing, what's happening. It was very moving to see Prince

:36:36.:36:39.

William talking to the mother who has been through a terrible time,

:36:40.:36:43.

her son died, her husband subsequently took his own life, and

:36:44.:36:46.

she asked him whether her kids would be OK. And it was such a personal

:36:47.:36:51.

response. Have you had these conversations with him as well the?

:36:52.:36:57.

Yeah, personally we met with the Duke last year just before Father's

:36:58.:37:00.

Day, about children in particular, and I spoke about the fact that I

:37:01.:37:05.

had a son who only lived for three weeks. The trauma of that nearly 40

:37:06.:37:10.

years on, it has taken me a good 30 years to get it out and realise how

:37:11.:37:15.

it affected me and he fully improvised with what I was saying. I

:37:16.:37:18.

know where he's coming from, without a doubt. What difference does it

:37:19.:37:22.

make when you have someone like that talking to you? Why was it that you

:37:23.:37:26.

didn't talk for such a very long time? I think probably the era that

:37:27.:37:32.

I grew up through, people didn't talk about things are there wasn't

:37:33.:37:37.

the support me if that is becoming more common today. I'm not saying it

:37:38.:37:42.

is easy to access all the time, but the profile that we now have, with

:37:43.:37:46.

the Royals coming on board, is going to lift this campaign dramatically.

:37:47.:37:50.

And services will be more available, there's so much more going on to get

:37:51.:37:55.

help. People will talk about it. It's a bit like years ago cancer,

:37:56.:37:59.

everybody just so, the big sea. Now people talk about it more openly, it

:38:00.:38:04.

is normalised in its. We saw you in the clip, talking about going to

:38:05.:38:11.

work and saying how bad things had got for you, it must have been

:38:12.:38:15.

tough? That is the first time I have seen that clip, and watching it

:38:16.:38:19.

back, it's quite hard to see where I was, the position I was in, trying

:38:20.:38:23.

to kill myself. But where I am at a now. I am a police officer, with the

:38:24.:38:28.

909 service, there is a lot of stigma and barriers generally around

:38:29.:38:34.

mental health. And for me, no, it's, really, important to say, yes, I am

:38:35.:38:39.

a police officer and I suffer from depression. That is what I want to

:38:40.:38:44.

do. People need to speak whatever they do, whoever they work for, to

:38:45.:38:51.

get help. And you had a conversation with William? I spoke with

:38:52.:38:56.

Catherine. She was absolutely lovely, very down-to-earth, very,

:38:57.:38:59.

very supportive. What the Royals have done around mental health,

:39:00.:39:07.

around Heads Together, is absolutely fantastic, and I echo what Paul and

:39:08.:39:14.

Norman Scates have said. I am the parent of a daughter who suffers

:39:15.:39:18.

with psychosis. As a parent, your child is diagnosed with a mental

:39:19.:39:22.

illness, and I had no idea. Mental illness...? Where do I go, how do I

:39:23.:39:27.

get help, what is a mental illness. I felt helpless and I still do to

:39:28.:39:32.

this day, knowing how to help her, how to look forward, how to

:39:33.:39:35.

encourage her when things are so desperate, when she is so desperate

:39:36.:39:41.

and so no. Doing the marathon is all about talking about mental illness,

:39:42.:39:48.

but it's also enabling people to know how to talk to people with a

:39:49.:39:52.

mental illness. My daughter... When you saw your daughter was

:39:53.:39:56.

struggling, how difficult was it to reach her, was she willing to talk?

:39:57.:40:05.

No. When we knew something was seriously wrong, she had actually

:40:06.:40:08.

stopped talking, so we couldn't talk to her. We had people coming in who

:40:09.:40:13.

were trained to talk to her, and it was only when she was admitted into

:40:14.:40:17.

hospital and we kind of got an understanding of what was going on,

:40:18.:40:22.

then we started trying to understand what she was experiencing, and still

:40:23.:40:28.

to this day, I'm still battling to try and get a complete grasp of

:40:29.:40:33.

living with what she lives with. The only way I can see all trying to

:40:34.:40:38.

make her life easier is to try and educate everybody, and myself around

:40:39.:40:41.

her, how to talk to her, how to make her life easier, because her life,

:40:42.:40:46.

and those with mental illness. It's hard, it's really hard. It is easier

:40:47.:40:50.

to tell someone you're physically sick? And when you say mental

:40:51.:40:56.

illness, people think, I'm going to say the wrong thing, I don't know

:40:57.:41:03.

what to say... Actually, all people need who are suffering with mental

:41:04.:41:06.

illness is someone just to listen. It's the reassurance. What happened

:41:07.:41:11.

to you? I experienced psychosis aged nine. I had great paranoia are

:41:12.:41:19.

people going to kill me so I needed to kill myself before they killed

:41:20.:41:24.

me. It was all, related, I was abused as a child by a so-called

:41:25.:41:28.

family friend, and it's just spiralled. That's why I'm so pleased

:41:29.:41:31.

with what's happening now, because if I see what's going on now, I

:41:32.:41:36.

would have known about the trauma. I was saying yesterday to Leane, we

:41:37.:41:41.

forget about the carers, the people that are around us. And they're a

:41:42.:41:48.

massive resource. I always use the analogy of an oxygen mask, they

:41:49.:41:53.

always say, put it on yourself first before you can help somebody else. I

:41:54.:41:56.

was talking to the Duchess about this, we need to support about

:41:57.:42:00.

psychological interventions, medication is part of it but it does

:42:01.:42:05.

not teach skills, and I want to give people those skills. You have

:42:06.:42:09.

already said that you sort of went back to losing a baby a long time

:42:10.:42:16.

ago, but then being pulled through those difficult times, how did you

:42:17.:42:21.

do it? It is a double whammy, going through that, and then what my son

:42:22.:42:25.

went through, and trying to lift him and bring him through and learning

:42:26.:42:28.

myself along the way, has been a massive learning curve, but it's

:42:29.:42:35.

educating people. I'm still learning myself at 67, trust me! It's clear,

:42:36.:42:41.

if you have been through a lot, and just talking about it, makes you

:42:42.:42:46.

feel emotional even now? Absolutely, you can't be the same, if you have

:42:47.:42:53.

any emotions, you can't not get emotional, because it's so

:42:54.:42:56.

important, when you have a child, and you're dealing with that, and

:42:57.:43:00.

then you get faced with a second child with issues, and you couldn't

:43:01.:43:04.

help the first child, you're now going through it again, with the

:43:05.:43:08.

second, what can you do, how can you get them to open up? I tried lots of

:43:09.:43:15.

different avenues with Paul to let him know, there is nothing you

:43:16.:43:20.

cannot talk about, I will not get irate, I will take it on the chin.

:43:21.:43:25.

And did you then find it easy? I unfortunately did attempt to take my

:43:26.:43:30.

own life, and I broke my back, which is why the marathon for me is

:43:31.:43:35.

massive. Which really difficult, everything about you, and you just

:43:36.:43:42.

don't believe it. For me, I now realise, I just didn't know how to

:43:43.:43:47.

stop the pain. When I talk to them, I say, is it that you want to die,

:43:48.:43:51.

or is it that you want to stop the pain? They say, I want to stop the

:43:52.:43:56.

pain. And how do you deal with that? You process it, you look at

:43:57.:44:00.

strategies, let's be curious to try things, and let's work together.

:44:01.:44:06.

They say, I can't think about that. I say, OK, I understand that. I

:44:07.:44:12.

truly understand, it is unlawful, horrible place to be, but recovery

:44:13.:44:16.

is possible. In some cases, it's inevitable. It's making sure we

:44:17.:44:21.

guide people with the support they need. You were at absolute rock

:44:22.:44:26.

bottom, weren't you? I was, absolutely. Before you got to that

:44:27.:44:31.

stage, because I know you had had a succession of things, your

:44:32.:44:34.

relationship breaking down, IVF had failed, so you had an onslaught. Up

:44:35.:44:39.

until that point, had you ever questioned your mental resilience?

:44:40.:44:43.

Never saw it, never saw it until... By use those three events as my

:44:44.:44:48.

significant triggers. It's only when I look back at my life, through

:44:49.:44:52.

therapy and counselling, I can see that I've been suffering for many

:44:53.:44:57.

years. I have a fear of failure, and for me, I had three massive failures

:44:58.:45:02.

in 12 months. It was the IVF, the relationship raked down and

:45:03.:45:07.

something I'd worked very, very hard for, I had been temporarily promoted

:45:08.:45:13.

to inspector, and I missed out on the process. But when I look back,

:45:14.:45:16.

I'm not surprised, because I was going through these things. For me,

:45:17.:45:23.

it is still a failure, but... Until I went to the GP with a physical

:45:24.:45:28.

ailment and broke down mentally, only then did I take time to digest

:45:29.:45:35.

and to think and to reflect on my life, to think, OK, I've been

:45:36.:45:39.

suffering maybe since GCSEs, through college, through university. I've

:45:40.:45:44.

always achieved and done very well and I don't want to sound big

:45:45.:45:50.

headed, but it's been described as, it's not a personality disorder, but

:45:51.:45:55.

it is my type of personality, and I can't adjust to certain situations.

:45:56.:46:00.

So if something wrong or something bad happens, I find it very

:46:01.:46:04.

difficult to turn it around. Briton which I mean is pretty normal. We

:46:05.:46:08.

get used to our lives being one-way, something changes.

:46:09.:46:15.

It sounds like a spoiled child analogy. No it doesn't, it sounds

:46:16.:46:22.

like you are normal! It took me to stand on a beach in the middle of

:46:23.:46:26.

South Wales to really understand what I was going to. I had to ring

:46:27.:46:29.

my own police force can something another thought I would ever do, for

:46:30.:46:34.

help. I didn't know the number, I had to Google the number of my own

:46:35.:46:38.

police force, and I knew then the following day I had to come out to

:46:39.:46:41.

my parents, as it were, and say this is what has happened, this is where

:46:42.:46:45.

I have been a litter is where I am going. Thankfully I am still here, I

:46:46.:46:49.

am sitting here, I have got a marathon to run, which I'm kind of

:46:50.:46:54.

forgetting about on Sunday, and I have support from family, friends,

:46:55.:46:56.

people through social media, people I work with, it is immense. Are you

:46:57.:47:02.

now completely opened up and be believe you have a problem to say,

:47:03.:47:05.

actually, I'm just struggling, nothing other than that. Yes, people

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kind of know me, and for a long time I stepped back, I isolated myself, I

:47:12.:47:14.

didn't want to go out, didn't want to speak to people, didn't want to

:47:15.:47:18.

go to coffee shops, just leave me alone. I didn't want answer the

:47:19.:47:23.

phone, didn't want to text, came off social media because I didn't want

:47:24.:47:27.

to see happy lives. Now I am on the road to recovery, and I am doing the

:47:28.:47:32.

mind of a marathon programme and doing Tabb meeting remarkable

:47:33.:47:41.

people. -- Mind Over Marathon. Would you like to be the case that

:47:42.:47:43.

everybody could be very straightforward about what they are

:47:44.:47:46.

going through, perhaps rather than blaming it on something else are not

:47:47.:47:51.

talking about it? Absolutely, and we have been campaigning for so long,

:47:52.:47:57.

having NHS practitioners working in schools. Like you have open

:47:58.:48:01.

surgeries, we can't expect a geography teacher to teach mental

:48:02.:48:05.

health, it is not their area of expertise will stop so having open

:48:06.:48:08.

surgeries where people can go and talk, and be guided. Than to have

:48:09.:48:13.

open surgeries for parents. When children go into services, sometimes

:48:14.:48:16.

they come back into school and the school are not guided as to how to

:48:17.:48:20.

bring their child back in and they have had time off and they have

:48:21.:48:24.

missed stuff. Like you talk about your physical health. Running saved

:48:25.:48:28.

my life, as it has for a lot of other people. I became Forest Gump,

:48:29.:48:32.

and while I was Forest Gump I didn't have to deal with the noise in my

:48:33.:48:35.

head and that is how I learn the skill of mindfulness. I could do the

:48:36.:48:42.

practical. And then I had to learn the breathing and stuff. Life is a

:48:43.:48:45.

box of chocolates. We don't know what we will get. Did you speak to

:48:46.:48:50.

the Royals? I did come I was lucky enough to speak with Prince Harry

:48:51.:48:54.

when I went and did the training day back in March, and then I spoke with

:48:55.:49:02.

cake yesterday, who was just lovely. What impact it using their

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involvement in this will have? If your daughter had heard them talking

:49:08.:49:12.

all the time ago DVD would have made a difference? It would have. They

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would have been OK to say mum, I don't know what is going on in my

:49:18.:49:20.

head, I have got a voice, I don't know what to do because it would

:49:21.:49:23.

have been OK to talk about it. She may not have taught me everything

:49:24.:49:27.

but I think she could have started the commerce session and I would

:49:28.:49:30.

have had a little bit of a heads up before it got so extreme. So the

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Royals, I don't think you can actually quantify what they are

:49:35.:49:40.

doing with heads together. They have such a high standing within the

:49:41.:49:44.

world that what they do and what they represent, it gives a kudos on

:49:45.:49:52.

the right way. It has been an absolute pleasure. These are not

:49:53.:49:56.

fashion accessories. This is for you. I will put it on later. Thank

:49:57.:50:04.

you, everybody. It really has been a pleasure to have you in, good luck

:50:05.:50:09.

with it all. If you want to watch the documentary, it is on the night,

:50:10.:50:13.

well worth watching, Mind Over Marathon, a 2-part series on BBC One

:50:14.:50:19.

at 9pm. Coming up, a general election is looming, if you hadn't

:50:20.:50:20.

realised. It is the first full day of

:50:21.:50:25.

campaigning for the party leaders and we will speak to a batch of some

:50:26.:50:32.

of the new intake of empties Tabb MPs elected just two years ago to

:50:33.:50:35.

get their take on events at Westminster for Sabella have pretty

:50:36.:50:40.

healthy majority so maybe not so much to fear as some MPs to. But we

:50:41.:50:46.

will be talking to them about what they want when they knock on doors.

:50:47.:50:59.

There have been calls for a chatbot app known as SimSimi to be removed

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from app stores and "banned" in the UK.

:51:03.:51:04.

Campaigners say the automated app can be "taught" to respond

:51:05.:51:07.

with offensive and explicit comments when certain words are typed in -

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and that children are using it to anonymously bully others online.

:51:11.:51:12.

The app was suspended in Ireland last month.

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An online petition in the UK has nearly 50,000 signatures.

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We can speak now to Liam Hackett, CEO of anti-bullying

:51:18.:51:19.

And Kayla Gill, who's 17 years old and has

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Thank you very much for coming in. You had better explain first of all,

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Liam, what Sim Simi is full stop it is not widely known or particularly

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widely used at the moment, is it? It started ten years ago and it is very

:51:37.:51:41.

big in Asia. That is an apt that you download to your phone, it looks

:51:42.:51:45.

like an instant messenger but instead of a human being responding,

:51:46.:51:49.

it is a robot. What happens on the app other users decide what is said,

:51:50.:51:57.

based on keywords. A lot of people are using the app to be really

:51:58.:52:05.

defamatory. It is saying whatever somebody else has told to say. It is

:52:06.:52:10.

a way of programming a blank canvas. When you say it is happening, how

:52:11.:52:20.

widespread? It is not a huge issue, I know Ireland have banned it, but

:52:21.:52:25.

people are downloading it at quite an alarming pace. What is quite

:52:26.:52:30.

unique about this is the sense that they don't really have any sort of

:52:31.:52:33.

moderation. Radu much anyone can download this app and put whatever

:52:34.:52:37.

they want to say about anyone else on there. This is completely

:52:38.:52:41.

anonymous, and those comments aren't moderated. I have been on the ten

:52:42.:52:47.

one quite a few times since I knew we would talking about it today, to

:52:48.:52:50.

put in some of the key phrase is being raised, such as I am being

:52:51.:52:54.

bullied, and there are claims that the ten one will report -- it will

:52:55.:53:04.

respond something pretty bad. Is it possible that the makers on top of

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this now. It is a random generation. We have searched "Suicide", for

:53:13.:53:15.

example, and some of the comments are supportive, saying you should

:53:16.:53:19.

get help, whereas others are encouraging that kind of behaviour,

:53:20.:53:23.

so it is a random generation based on what people have programmed. Some

:53:24.:53:26.

of it is positive, some of it is very graphic and sexual, not

:53:27.:53:31.

something 13-year-old kids should be reading. We wanted banned. Think all

:53:32.:53:34.

the terms and conditions on things like the App Store and who will

:53:35.:53:38.

play, it violates those terms and conditions. Id say it is over 17 is,

:53:39.:53:44.

though. But kids are using it, 13 plus. Kayla, you have experienced

:53:45.:53:51.

online bullying, not with Sim Simi, but tell us what happened to you.

:53:52.:53:56.

You are 17, aren't you? Yeah, I have been bullied since I was a little

:53:57.:54:00.

kid, but it was up until I was about 11, it was the kind of thing that

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once you had gotten home, you could get over it. The weekend has come,

:54:04.:54:08.

you know, it is the end of the day, I am done with it now. But around

:54:09.:54:12.

the time I started secondary school, the internet was becoming a lot more

:54:13.:54:15.

popular and a lot more accessible amongst people my age. So you can't

:54:16.:54:26.

get away from it. Things that started on the internet would spread

:54:27.:54:32.

into real life. So there was no escape for me anywhere. People who

:54:33.:54:37.

are not in that kind of team world of being immersed in social media --

:54:38.:54:42.

teen world might think why not ignore it? How consuming as sitcom

:54:43.:54:47.

how difficult is it to just the way? I get that a lot sometimes, but it

:54:48.:54:54.

is not that simple. It is the way of communicating. It is a massive way

:54:55.:54:58.

of communicating, it is being in the social circle with your friends,

:54:59.:55:02.

because the internet can do a lot of good things. Like, I have friends

:55:03.:55:05.

that live in other countries that I only made very rarely in person, and

:55:06.:55:09.

yet I talk to them that way through the internet. Without it, the prices

:55:10.:55:16.

for overseas calling, it is just not flexible. If I deleted all of my app

:55:17.:55:24.

today, I'm still left with the after-effect of things that once you

:55:25.:55:28.

have been harassed or upset on the internet, it is still a lingering

:55:29.:55:31.

effect. Just because you are off into dozens of other people talking

:55:32.:55:35.

about you being on the internet and bleeding into real life. That is not

:55:36.:55:40.

as capable. What impact has the sad? I am quite an anxious person now,

:55:41.:55:44.

which is a real shame, I am often worried when I go on the internet, I

:55:45.:55:47.

am much more cautious but not necessarily in a way. I get quite

:55:48.:55:53.

panicky, sometimes I have anxiety attacks, are my friends talking

:55:54.:55:56.

about me? I have not been online for a few hours, maybe they decide that

:55:57.:56:00.

they hate me. Maybe I have had people where I thought I have been

:56:01.:56:02.

really close to them and they have started saying awful things behind

:56:03.:56:06.

my back that started on the internet as a private chat, but has then

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spread into pages that have spread into hashtags, that have spread into

:56:12.:56:17.

real life. And it has just made me much more scared of being able to

:56:18.:56:21.

communicate with people when in reality the internet is a good place

:56:22.:56:24.

to communicate. That is just you need to be a bit more cautious about

:56:25.:56:27.

what you say, and how to deal with things. Have you found ways of

:56:28.:56:33.

managing it now? I have people I can talk to, which is helpful. I used to

:56:34.:56:39.

have a counsellor that they randomly got me a few months ago and they

:56:40.:56:43.

have not been able to contact us, which is a shame, because a lot of

:56:44.:56:46.

people need help with these things was that that is not just me

:56:47.:56:48.

experiencing it, I have had friends that have an awful things to

:56:49.:56:51.

themselves because of it, because of comments they have received. Because

:56:52.:56:56.

of online bullying? They have posted some very not very nice things about

:56:57.:57:01.

themselves, and plans to do to themselves, if that makes sense. And

:57:02.:57:05.

I have had people commenting, I have seen people commenting saying, do

:57:06.:57:09.

it, chicken, coward, you deserve it, and it is just awful. I think the

:57:10.:57:14.

issue with the internet is you will get people saying, it is just a

:57:15.:57:18.

joke, leave the internet alone, it is going to happen, when in reality

:57:19.:57:21.

you need control and you need to know how to deal with these things

:57:22.:57:24.

yourself and a other people because otherwise you will just climb up

:57:25.:57:27.

because you think it is the internet, have to ignore it, but it

:57:28.:57:32.

it away at you. What is the answer? Huge pressures on kids. As Kayla is

:57:33.:57:38.

saying, they will not step away because it is the way of

:57:39.:57:41.

communicating. How does this get addressed? It can be very

:57:42.:57:46.

overwhelming. At which the label we feel it is very important to try to

:57:47.:57:49.

understand the reasons why people are being so abusive and unkind. We

:57:50.:57:54.

have researched the show that kids who are going through stress or

:57:55.:57:59.

trauma at home are far more likely to: Billy another person. That is

:58:00.:58:05.

about understanding those root issues and looking at how we can

:58:06.:58:13.

overcome those issues. But we keep kids access to this world of

:58:14.:58:17.

information from a very early age that they are not taught skills that

:58:18.:58:21.

they need, they are not taught Digital citizenship at school and

:58:22.:58:27.

they should be. The internet is a big and fast place with an infinite

:58:28.:58:30.

amount of opportunity and threats and kids are not being taught how to

:58:31.:58:33.

navigate those properly. Latest news summary coming up in

:58:34.:58:45.

just a few moments. If you want to get in touch, hashtag Victoria Line

:58:46.:58:48.

Tube now let's catch up with the weather with Matt.

:58:49.:58:53.

A good variety of weather contrasts, sunshine captured in Suffolk. Quite

:58:54.:59:04.

a chilly start in Essex and a touch of frost. Plenty of cloud around.

:59:05.:59:14.

Parts of Devon, Cornwall, East Anglia the south-east. The sunshine

:59:15.:59:19.

will give way to something a bit cloudy. There will be Brexit McLeod.

:59:20.:59:23.

The post of those breaks, the islands, eastern parts of northern

:59:24.:59:29.

Ireland and to the east of Scotland. We could see highs of around 16 or

:59:30.:59:34.

even 17 this afternoon. The West of Scotland with stay cloudy. Not paid

:59:35.:59:43.

yesterday. The skies will brighten a touch across northern England. We

:59:44.:59:51.

have seen some drizzle across Wales. It fragments into one or two showers

:59:52.:59:56.

across southern England but they are few in number, mostly dry, staying a

:59:57.:00:00.

bit chilly in some spots across the South. Into tonight, the breeze

:00:01.:00:06.

continues to be a bit blurry without breaks of rain, and a few showers. A

:00:07.:00:13.

fair amount of cloud around, some mist patches. It will be a chilly

:00:14.:00:20.

start, Debbie Dan Cole, in the Hebrides and Auckland and Shetland.

:00:21.:00:26.

A better day across Scotland, particularly to the west of higher

:00:27.:00:30.

ground. Showers into Northern Ireland and northern England. South

:00:31.:00:35.

of that thickening cloud, temperatures on the rise compared

:00:36.:00:40.

with today. 17, 18, maybe 19 degrees. That cold air works its way

:00:41.:00:47.

southwards across the UK through Friday night into Saturday, the

:00:48.:00:50.

start of the weekend, high pressure in charge, and much rain around,

:00:51.:00:53.

only a few showers from the tail end. Sunny spells, the best of the

:00:54.:01:02.

sunshine in the West, and feeling a little bit more pleasant after a

:01:03.:01:05.

chilly start. Warmer in the Sunday because the winds are still coming

:01:06.:01:10.

into the Atlantic, especially in the south. A dry day for the London

:01:11.:01:13.

Marathon, temperatures in the mid teens but telling increasingly wet

:01:14.:01:16.

and windy across Scotland through the day. As the wet and windy

:01:17.:01:20.

weather pushes into northern Europe, cold air the next week, T-shirt and

:01:21.:01:24.

shorts weather it certainly won't be.

:01:25.:01:30.

Jeremy Corbyn says he's going to rip up the rules,

:01:31.:01:37.

overturn a rigged system and win this election for the people.

:01:38.:01:46.

Regan to be a country which works only to make the richest even

:01:47.:01:51.

richer? I know which side I'm on, you know which side you're on. This

:01:52.:01:55.

election is going to be fought on the streets of this country.

:01:56.:01:59.

The Labour leader makes his first speech of the campaign

:02:00.:02:00.

in about half an hour's time - we'll bring that to you live.

:02:01.:02:04.

And we'll be talking to politicians from all the main parties

:02:05.:02:06.

French voters also face an election this year.

:02:07.:02:10.

With the far right Front National party polling strongly, some people

:02:11.:02:12.

are considering what a win for party leader Marine Le Pen

:02:13.:02:15.

There's actually somebody who doesn't want people like me in this

:02:16.:02:29.

country, even though I am French and born in France.

:02:30.:02:32.

We'll be speaking to voters in France, ahead of a presidential

:02:33.:02:34.

Tennis star Serena Williams confirms she is pregnant

:02:35.:02:39.

She is promising it will not be the end of her career. More on that

:02:40.:02:49.

shortly. Here's Annita McVeigh

:02:50.:02:56.

in the BBC Newsroom The Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn,

:02:57.:03:00.

will use his first major speech of the election campaign to argue

:03:01.:03:04.

that he will stand up for the British people

:03:05.:03:06.

against what he calls Mr Corbyn will reject the idea

:03:07.:03:08.

that the outcome of the election Culture Secretary Karen Bradley has

:03:09.:03:14.

strongly defended the Conservatives' Her comments come as the Microsoft

:03:15.:03:18.

founder Bill Gates urged the UK to retain its pledge to spend 0.7%

:03:19.:03:25.

of GDP on international aid, saying it was proof

:03:26.:03:29.

of its goodwill and humanity. There has been speculation

:03:30.:03:33.

the pledge could be dropped in the Tory manifesto,

:03:34.:03:36.

but Ms Bradley said she was proud The manifesto will be published in

:03:37.:03:47.

due course and we can debate what is in the manifesto at that point. I am

:03:48.:03:51.

not here to spec you late on what might be in the manifesto. But I

:03:52.:03:54.

voted for the active parliament which put the 0.7% in the

:03:55.:03:59.

legislation. I'm very proud of the record of this government in

:04:00.:04:01.

delivering for those most in need across the world, and Britain will

:04:02.:04:04.

always be a leading force in that. And at 11.30 we'll be

:04:05.:04:07.

answering your Election 2017 questions with Professor

:04:08.:04:11.

of Politics John Curtice and BBC Newsbeat's political

:04:12.:04:14.

correspondent Eleanor Roper - you can get in touch

:04:15.:04:15.

using the #BBCAskThis. Scientists have discovered

:04:16.:04:26.

drugs which may be able to stop Alzheimer's,

:04:27.:04:28.

Parkinson's and a wide range One of them is already safely given

:04:29.:04:30.

to people with depression. Clinical trials are planned,

:04:31.:04:35.

but the findings so far have been described as exciting,

:04:36.:04:38.

important and potentially Cycling to work could halve the risk

:04:39.:04:40.

of developing heart disease and cancer according to new research

:04:41.:04:50.

published today in the Scientists at the University

:04:51.:04:52.

of Glasgow, who analysed data from more than 250,000 people,

:04:53.:04:57.

said walking reduced the risk Debenhams has revealed plans

:04:58.:04:59.

to review the future of ten including one of its major

:05:00.:05:06.

distributions centres, which employs It's part of a turnaround strategy

:05:07.:05:13.

announced by the new chief executive of the chain,

:05:14.:05:19.

which reported a 6.4% fall A 17-year-old Formula 4 driver

:05:20.:05:21.

who was involved in a crash at Donington Park has had

:05:22.:05:29.

both his legs amputated. A JustGiving page set up to raise

:05:30.:05:33.

money for Billy Monger's care has The teenager ran into the back

:05:34.:05:37.

of another car which appeared to have stopped on the track

:05:38.:05:45.

during the race on Sunday. More news at half past ten. We are

:05:46.:05:57.

expecting to hear from Jeremy Corbyn actually at half past ten his first

:05:58.:06:03.

speech of the election campaign. Let us know your thoughts on the

:06:04.:06:10.

election, seven weeks away. It was unexpected, of course, but here it

:06:11.:06:17.

is, two years after the election in 2015, we're faced with another one.

:06:18.:06:28.

Time to catch up with the sport. As we've been hearing on the programme,

:06:29.:06:31.

Serena Williams has revealed that she's pregnant with her child. She

:06:32.:06:37.

told the world via social media, with the caption, 20 weeks. With the

:06:38.:06:41.

baby due in the autumn, she will be missing the next three Grand Slams,

:06:42.:06:44.

but could potentially return for the French Open next year. That would be

:06:45.:06:49.

four months before her 37th birthday. No plans to retire,

:06:50.:07:00.

though. Andy Murray says he was not fixed acting to serve quite so badly

:07:01.:07:04.

as he did at the start of his match against Gilles Muller in the Monte

:07:05.:07:07.

Carlo Masters. He won what was his first competitive match after a

:07:08.:07:11.

month out with an elbow injury. He admitted he only started serving at

:07:12.:07:21.

full speed four or five days ago. Elsewhere, British number three Kyle

:07:22.:07:23.

Edmund pushed defending jumpy and Rafa Nadal to a deciding set on the

:07:24.:07:31.

clay, which is no mean feat, against the man who has got such an

:07:32.:07:43.

incredible record on the surface. The British and Irish Lions coach

:07:44.:07:45.

Warren Gatland has named his squad for the tour to New Zealand. The

:07:46.:07:51.

first match could see Gatland coming up against a familiar face, his son,

:07:52.:07:55.

who has been picked in the provincial barbarians squad for the

:07:56.:08:00.

opening game of the tour. Gatlin senior played for a victorious New

:08:01.:08:02.

Zealand side in the 1993 series against the Lions. The beauty is

:08:03.:08:10.

that both him and myself will have played against the Lions. The

:08:11.:08:13.

unfortunate thing is, only one of us will of won. So, look, if he's

:08:14.:08:21.

involved and he's playing, it is great for him. He won't get any

:08:22.:08:26.

special favours from me, I can promise you that. But it's going to

:08:27.:08:30.

be hard for him, because he's going to be playing against the Lions, and

:08:31.:08:34.

the next day, is going to be putting the Lions jersey on and supporting

:08:35.:08:38.

us. There was plenty to talk about regarding the selection for the

:08:39.:08:40.

squad. One of those missing out is Dylan Hartley, the England captain.

:08:41.:08:46.

He will nevertheless be captain England on their tour of Argentina.

:08:47.:08:50.

Eddie Jones has named 15 uncapped players in the party, including

:08:51.:08:53.

Denny Solomona, who declared himself available for England last month

:08:54.:08:58.

after completing his three year residency period. He controversially

:08:59.:09:01.

left rugby league side Castleford and switched codes to join Sale in

:09:02.:09:07.

December. Barcelona forward Neymar was reduced to tears after they were

:09:08.:09:11.

not out of the quarterfinals of the Champions League last night by

:09:12.:09:15.

Juventus. This was the best of the action. Messi had the best chance of

:09:16.:09:20.

the game. They were attempting to overturn a 3-0 first leg visit. But

:09:21.:09:27.

if you thought it was all about the money these days, have a look at the

:09:28.:09:31.

expression there from the Brazilian forward - devastated, as his side

:09:32.:09:37.

exited the competition. And that's the sport for now. I will have

:09:38.:09:41.

another update for you at about half past ten. There is a caveat which we

:09:42.:09:45.

are expecting to hear from Jeremy Corbyn at half ten as well. So we

:09:46.:09:49.

may or may not have the sport at that time. Of course, a snap

:09:50.:09:58.

election has been called. How does that feel if you were just elected

:09:59.:10:02.

for the first time two years ago? We are joined now by some of the MPs

:10:03.:10:06.

who were just elect did in 2015, expecting to be there until 2020

:10:07.:10:15.

because of the Fixed-term Parliaments Act. We can speak now to

:10:16.:10:27.

Germansweek, MP for Checquerbent. Reichelt, MP for Melandri.

:10:28.:10:30.

Schoenfelder, MP for Kretzschmar. And also by the President for the

:10:31.:10:33.

Liberal Democrats. Thank you joining us. Are you relishing the thought of

:10:34.:10:38.

going to the country again, two years on? Well, I've already been

:10:39.:10:41.

out for reaching times in woodgrain and Muswell Hill, and all of over my

:10:42.:10:48.

constituency and I think people really do want to have a debate, not

:10:49.:10:52.

just about Brexit but also about public services, the National Health

:10:53.:10:55.

Service, the cuts to our schools, the first cuts in 30 years to our

:10:56.:11:00.

schools, cuts the councils, meaning that some of the basics we have

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already accepted from councils, like the roads and other things, we might

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actually be able to address some of those issues. What is top of the

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list when you're talking to people? There is a sense, that this is going

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to be about Brexit? Well, I think the NHS is coming up a lot,

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actually. Older people are very worried about that. And younger

:11:24.:11:27.

people who might be carers for older people as well. They're worried

:11:28.:11:30.

about how long-term care will be funded. And also for families, which

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we have a lot of, and worrying about schools and the first cuts to

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schools in 30 years - that's very, very worrying indeed. Oliver Dowden,

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what do you think is a big priority? Firstly, we don't want to have an

:11:45.:11:49.

election for an election's sake, there is an important reason for

:11:50.:11:52.

holding this election. What has become clear, if you look at the

:11:53.:11:57.

course of the bill for the Prime Minister to invoke Article 50, she

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needs a clearer mandate, she needs a direct mandate from the British

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people to achieve what she wants in the negotiations are. As far as

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you're concerned, Brexit is absolutely the main consideration

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that people should be thinking about? No, actually I think it is

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wider than that. I think it's about leadership, I think the Prime

:12:17.:12:18.

Minister has demonstrated the leadership this country needs, and

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she needs a mandate in Parliament to deliver on that. But for somebody to

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get a clear mandate, there needs to be absolute clarity on what the

:12:27.:12:30.

party would do, how the party sees the country after Brexit? And that's

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exactly what the Prime Minister has set out in her speech and in her

:12:34.:12:36.

white paper. In the election there's going to be contrast think between

:12:37.:12:42.

the Prime Minister Putin shown that leadership, and the danger we

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have... The danger we heard just yesterday is that you have the

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Liberal Democrats, Labour and the SNP, in a so-called progressive

:12:51.:12:52.

coalition, which will put the country at risk. Labour have said

:12:53.:12:56.

they wouldn't talk about being part of a coalition at this stage, they

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fell into that trap before. Let's bring in Ian Blackford, SNP MP for

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Ross, Skye and Lochaber full so how do you feel about going out and

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having to get people to vote again, just two years on? I am looking

:13:10.:13:13.

forward to it. We have got a very popular Scottish Government in

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Edinburgh. It is quite galling when you see the Prime Minister doing

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this from our own personal advantage, she knows the Labour

:13:21.:13:23.

Party are weak, it is about demonstrating her dominance over

:13:24.:13:26.

Labour in England, calling an election at a time when she has said

:13:27.:13:30.

to the people in Scotland, now is not the time for a Scottish

:13:31.:13:33.

referendum. And that's a referendum which has been supported by the

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Scottish Parliament, which voted for that. This is about making sure that

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we're actually not dragged out of Europe against our will, and knowing

:13:41.:13:44.

that there is a real threat to the Scottish economy. So, we want to

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make sure that we support what the Scottish Government has been doing,

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which is asking for a referendum on our future, which will take place

:13:56.:13:59.

after the Brexit negotiations. We'll be reinforcing that call over the

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course of this election campaign, and I certainly look forward to

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having that discussion with all the people of my constituency. Baroness

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Brinton, president of the Liberal Democrats, are you hoping that

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either Liberal Democrats' Clearview about Brexit, that there might be a

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resurgence for the party, who suffered terribly just two years

:14:21.:14:27.

ago? 2015 was not a good year for us at all. We recognise that. We are

:14:28.:14:31.

very clear already from the reception we have had on the

:14:32.:14:35.

streets, 5000 people have joined the party since Theresa May made that

:14:36.:14:39.

announcement, which is an astonishing number, we are very,

:14:40.:14:42.

very clear that we will continue to be the only UK-wide party that is

:14:43.:14:48.

going to fight against a hard Brexit . Oliver spoke about certain things,

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we know that a good... The red line on immigration? We absolutely want

:14:56.:15:00.

to avoid a hard Brexit. We are very, very sure that there is well over

:15:01.:15:04.

50% of people who want us to have a key role in the single market, so

:15:05.:15:08.

we're going to be fighting for that. But we would also agree that the NHS

:15:09.:15:11.

remains a major issue. As to schools. That's why we will be the

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party, through Norman Lamb in the House of Commons, who will be

:15:19.:15:20.

fighting for an independent commission which the Government

:15:21.:15:23.

refused to set up, to look at the future funding of the NHS. We

:15:24.:15:27.

believe we have to have more funding in this area. We saw massive cuts to

:15:28.:15:31.

social care, which was the beginning of the NHS crisis. I want to get

:15:32.:15:36.

from you, what you want Jeremy Corbyn to say on Brexit. You

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campaigned to remain, your constituency, I right in saying, had

:15:42.:15:46.

the highest remained vote in the country? 81%, yes. I did not vote

:15:47.:15:52.

for the triggering of Article 50. But I think that by voting Labour,

:15:53.:15:56.

we get to have an opportunity to talk about fairness in society,

:15:57.:16:01.

firstly... Briton if you look at Labour voters, seven out of ten

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Labour voters in the referendum voted for Remained. Jeremy Corbyn

:16:07.:16:08.

tried to do more to... Labour was the only party then said

:16:09.:16:24.

we did not want the referendum. Mr Cameron and Mr Osborne have come and

:16:25.:16:30.

gone. The referendum happened, but what he could do is offer another

:16:31.:16:33.

referendum. Would you like to do that? That has not been ruled out

:16:34.:16:39.

and I did myself vote for that possibility, but I think what

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matters is how could Labour reset the agenda? Because regardless of

:16:44.:16:46.

what happens with Brexit, what people care about is not the word

:16:47.:16:51.

Brexit, they can about workers' rights, environmental protections,

:16:52.:16:53.

they care about small business, the fact that taxes paid by companies

:16:54.:17:01.

that sell into the online sale, and there is 1.5 billion tax pounds

:17:02.:17:05.

missing. That is the sort of thing people care about. Do we all have an

:17:06.:17:10.

opportunity here to have an election campaign, a condensed one, seven

:17:11.:17:13.

weeks, because we have and have the run-up we would normally get, and

:17:14.:17:20.

have a really strongly fact -based debate. When you look at the

:17:21.:17:24.

referendum campaign, you think it is fair for voters to feel a bit

:17:25.:17:27.

scarred by some of what happened there? I wasn't happy with a lot of

:17:28.:17:32.

the way that the referendum was conducted. There were exaggerated

:17:33.:17:35.

claims on both sides, but I think we have moved beyond that and the real

:17:36.:17:39.

question for this election is, can we give the Prime Minister the

:17:40.:17:43.

mandate she needs in the national interest to get the best possible

:17:44.:17:46.

deal? Catherine was talking about having a second referendum. I think

:17:47.:17:50.

that would be absolutely disastrous, not only because we would be saying

:17:51.:17:53.

to the British people with heart like the result we want to go back,

:17:54.:17:57.

but secondly in those negotiations the incentive would be for the

:17:58.:18:00.

commission, for the other countries, to get the worst possible deal to

:18:01.:18:04.

try and make Brexit look awful for this country. I do not think that

:18:05.:18:09.

would be national interest. I just wanted to say it is very clear that

:18:10.:18:13.

Labour is still completely split on the position about Europe. Brexit is

:18:14.:18:17.

very important, there needs to be a strong opposition to what Theresa

:18:18.:18:20.

May is proposing and the Liberal Democrats are more than happy to

:18:21.:18:23.

step up to the plate to deliver that. We will have plenty more time

:18:24.:18:28.

to revisit this over the next seven weeks. For now, thank you and S --

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letters know your thoughts. What do you want to hear, what are the

:18:34.:18:39.

priorities as far as you are concerned? Is it still the issue of

:18:40.:18:42.

Brexit at the front of your mind? Hashtag Victoria Line Tube is the --

:18:43.:18:44.

Victoria live. Nicki Minaj, is facing criticism -

:18:45.:18:56.

after her recent music video includes pictures of her dancing

:18:57.:19:00.

on Westminster Bridge. It comes just weeks after five

:19:01.:19:02.

people were killed in a terrorist We are not the only ones having a

:19:03.:19:08.

general election. France is also preparing for a new president.

:19:09.:19:10.

Centrist candidate Emmanuel Mayuka is locked in a battle with the far

:19:11.:19:14.

right leader Marine Le Pen at the top of the polls for the first round

:19:15.:19:15.

of voting. In a moment we'll speak to some

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French voters, but first, Newsbeat has been talking to young

:19:20.:19:22.

people in Paris including members from the LGBT community

:19:23.:19:25.

where Marine Le Pen is, surprisingly to some,

:19:26.:19:27.

gaining support. I cannot be like, "Oh, I don't care,

:19:28.:19:35.

I'm not going to vote this time around," because there is actually

:19:36.:19:38.

somebody on the bill who doesn't Even though I am French and born

:19:39.:19:41.

in France, they still refer to me And on top of that,

:19:42.:19:46.

you add my sexuality, being a gay man, here in France

:19:47.:19:50.

and standing in the way of fascism and racism is really,

:19:51.:19:53.

really, really hard. The reason I feel LGBT people

:19:54.:19:57.

are leaning towards the right side is because it is mostly white

:19:58.:20:00.

and so therefore they do not really Hello, I'm Lionel, I'm 25,

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I'm from Martinique and I have something to say about the problems

:20:04.:21:20.

in society in this electoral period. If they want people to believe them,

:21:21.:21:23.

they have to fight the problem for the young people to find a job

:21:24.:21:32.

and they have to fight also the problem of the homeless,

:21:33.:21:39.

because every time I see a lot of homeless in the street,

:21:40.:21:44.

that breaks my heart, because we are all human,

:21:45.:21:49.

and that is inhuman. Some French voters talking to

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Newsbeat. Let's speak to Anne-Elisabeth

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Moutet, a French As a citizen, she says she's

:22:08.:22:09.

horrified, but as a journalist, Marina Anca is a French

:22:10.:22:14.

writer born in Romania. She's lived in France for 30

:22:15.:22:17.

years and is undecided on who to vote for, but is leaning

:22:18.:22:19.

towards right-wing candidates. Thomas Ricard is voting

:22:20.:22:27.

for Emmanuel Macron, And Lola Pattier, voting

:22:28.:22:29.

for far-left Jean-Luc Melenchon. Thank you very much for joining us.

:22:30.:22:43.

Anne-Elisabeth, are we seeing a similar dynamic to the one we are

:22:44.:22:47.

seeing elsewhere, a breakdown of traditional political allegiances?

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Yes. In a French way of doing it, but yes, by and large we have the

:22:54.:22:57.

same way of doing -- we have the same problem, that winners and

:22:58.:23:04.

losers in a game of globalisation, and a constant unwillingness from

:23:05.:23:07.

the elite, who say this will be good for you, it will end up well in the

:23:08.:23:13.

end, to listen to vast swathes of the population who are

:23:14.:23:15.

disenfranchised, lose jobs car cannot find jobs and their children.

:23:16.:23:21.

They are stuck in large areas of potential that they can't move

:23:22.:23:24.

because it is too expensive to move anywhere else, and to feel more and

:23:25.:23:27.

more battered. And they feel that nobody is talking to them. Marina, I

:23:28.:23:32.

think one in three French voters are undecided. You are one of them, why?

:23:33.:23:39.

Have you traditionally gone for one party or another and they know which

:23:40.:23:48.

way to turn now? Yes, I am undecided because I think that we all need to

:23:49.:23:55.

live in peace. I came to France 30 years ago to seek protection and

:23:56.:24:01.

freedom, including freedom of speech, and my issues are a little

:24:02.:24:06.

bit different from my fellow citizens, because I think very hard

:24:07.:24:12.

about what is going on in the world with Putin and Trump and the North

:24:13.:24:18.

Korea leader, and I am scared of World War III. And my issue is who

:24:19.:24:26.

will be the best man or woman, I don't know, to bring peace. We don't

:24:27.:24:36.

need another ego, we need a hero. I watched the night's show very

:24:37.:24:40.

carefully in order to decide which one would be my hero. Thomas, you

:24:41.:24:47.

are voting for Emmanuel Macron, the centrist candidate, the one who has

:24:48.:24:51.

suddenly come to the fore potentially as a front runner after

:24:52.:24:57.

Francois Fillon suffered difficulties during his campaign.

:24:58.:25:01.

What is it you like about him? Well, it is not really a question of

:25:02.:25:10.

liking, it is really a pragmatic choice. I am under no illusions that

:25:11.:25:14.

Emmanuel Macron will be fundamentally different from the

:25:15.:25:24.

president that has preceded him, if he is elected. It simply is that in

:25:25.:25:41.

the face of arriving far right, -- a rising far right, and the emergence

:25:42.:25:49.

of potentially a new political order, especially as we might end up

:25:50.:25:57.

with a Melenchon Marine Le Pen second round, Francois Fillon is

:25:58.:26:03.

seen as the more safe choice. It is a question of lesser evil. I have no

:26:04.:26:16.

particular enthusiasm for him, but there is just no other leading

:26:17.:26:26.

candidate that convinces me. You mentioned Jean-Luc Melenchon, the

:26:27.:26:29.

far left candidate, he says if he were to win he would want to see a

:26:30.:26:33.

referendum on France's membership of the EU, and Lola, you are voting for

:26:34.:26:38.

him. That because you're not have that referendum question not yes,

:26:39.:26:43.

and so for me it is the only candidate with the speech of peace.

:26:44.:26:57.

It is a movement to want to create jobs for the people in France. And

:26:58.:27:01.

committing to the environment is a big project, and we need a lot of

:27:02.:27:10.

people to do it. And so now in the Republic, we feel the president is

:27:11.:27:18.

too much stronger. If one day a person like Marine Le Pen becomes

:27:19.:27:24.

president, it can be very dangerous for the Republic. And so we need to

:27:25.:27:31.

create a new parliament and have a referendum to create a new

:27:32.:27:40.

government and who seeks a republic with a committee. So you have the

:27:41.:27:49.

presidential debate tonight and we will be watching events in France,

:27:50.:27:53.

as we are always going to the polls. Thank you very much indeed, thank

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you. Let me just remind you, we are expecting Jeremy Corbyn to start

:28:00.:28:00.

speaking shortly. He is physically the

:28:01.:28:20.

antiestablishment candidate. That is the platform he will be putting

:28:21.:28:26.

himself on. So we will have full coverage of his speech as soon as it

:28:27.:28:29.

starts. We will stay across those pictures so you won't miss a thing,

:28:30.:28:33.

but while we wait to go back to them, let's took a bit about the

:28:34.:28:39.

rapper, Nicky Maynard. She has been criticised after living -- and Head

:28:40.:28:49.

Together. There were reports she would cut scenes from her video of

:28:50.:28:53.

Westminster Bridge. It has been left in the final version. Why did she

:28:54.:29:01.

leave them in? Morning. My thing very few will forget Westminster

:29:02.:29:07.

attack on 22nd March. The day it happened, Nicki Minaj sent out a

:29:08.:29:10.

tweet, saying they could protect everyone in London, sending my

:29:11.:29:15.

condolences. She also said that the day before she had actually been

:29:16.:29:21.

filming on the bridge. Now, although there were reports that the footage

:29:22.:29:25.

would be left out of the final edit, these never came from Nicki Minaj or

:29:26.:29:29.

her people, but since the year was released last night, 5 million

:29:30.:29:31.

people have watched and some people are calling it insensitive, others

:29:32.:29:35.

tasteless -- since the video was released. We can see the images

:29:36.:29:43.

right now, with the gates. I mean how much of a cat lash as they pin

:29:44.:29:50.

-- of a backlash has now been? There are other London landmarks in there,

:29:51.:29:56.

Buckingham Palace, there have probably been hundreds of comments,

:29:57.:29:59.

but from her fans as well which is something she might hurt Nicki

:30:00.:30:05.

Minaj. They are no the Risley fanatical about her that some say

:30:06.:30:07.

she has overstepped the mark this time, given what happened. The Paw

:30:08.:30:17.

people lost their lives and -- the four people who lost their lives.

:30:18.:30:21.

Will be. Listening to her music because of this? I can't see that

:30:22.:30:29.

happening. 5 million views already. Nicki Minaj if not the biggest

:30:30.:30:31.

female rapper on the planet as well. Jeremy Corbyn sets

:30:32.:30:37.

out Labour's vision We'll be bringing you the speech

:30:38.:30:40.

live, any minute now. With the news, here's Annita

:30:41.:30:55.

in the BBC Newsroom. The Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn,

:30:56.:30:58.

will use his first major speech of the election campaign shortly,

:30:59.:31:03.

to argue that he will stand up for the British people

:31:04.:31:06.

against what he calls Mr Corbyn will reject the idea

:31:07.:31:09.

that the outcome of the election Debenhams has revealed plans

:31:10.:31:14.

to review the future of ten It is to close 11 of its warehouses

:31:15.:31:18.

- including one of its major distributions centres,

:31:19.:31:23.

which employs more than 200 people. It's part of a turnaround strategy

:31:24.:31:25.

announced by the new chief executive of the chain,

:31:26.:31:30.

which reported a 6.4% fall Scientists have discovered

:31:31.:31:33.

drugs which may be able to stop Alzheimer's,

:31:34.:31:38.

Parkinson's and a wide range One of them is already safely given

:31:39.:31:41.

to people with depression. Clinical trials are planned,

:31:42.:31:46.

but the findings so far have been described as exciting,

:31:47.:31:49.

important and potentially That is the news summary. And we can

:31:50.:32:09.

go straight to our political guru, Norman Smith, because the Labour

:32:10.:32:13.

leader, Jimmy Corbyn, is due to make his first official speech the

:32:14.:32:17.

campaign. And he's going to be talking about tearing up the rule

:32:18.:32:22.

book, Norman? It is a big moment, Joanna, because Mr Corbyn wants to

:32:23.:32:27.

frame this election, and he wants to present himself really as Corbyn the

:32:28.:32:32.

rubble, the outsider, the anti-establishment politician,

:32:33.:32:37.

taking on, as he sees it, the media establishment, what he calls the

:32:38.:32:41.

cartel at the top of society. In a way it's sort of Corbyn uncut,

:32:42.:32:45.

Corbyn unleashed, Jeremy Corbyn being Jeremy Corbyn. It's not going

:32:46.:32:51.

to be the sort of buttoned up, conventional leader in an election

:32:52.:32:54.

campaign. He wants to fight a very different election. Thinking of his

:32:55.:33:00.

people is, this worked during the Labour leadership contests, in both

:33:01.:33:03.

of which he was taking on fairly conventional candidates and trounced

:33:04.:33:07.

both of them by taking this anti-establishment approach. The

:33:08.:33:11.

hope is that that will work in a general election. Obviously, it's a

:33:12.:33:15.

very different ball game, appealing to 200,000 like-minded Labour

:33:16.:33:19.

supporters, compared with appealing the millions in the general

:33:20.:33:24.

election. Very, very different. But his people say, they think there is

:33:25.:33:29.

something going on out there. They think people are fed up with

:33:30.:33:31.

politics as normal, disenchanted and resentful of the fact that nothing

:33:32.:33:37.

ever seems to change, that the wealthy just seem to keep more

:33:38.:33:40.

money, and there is this feeling that people want things to be done

:33:41.:33:43.

differently, not just the same old politics. And they point for example

:33:44.:33:49.

to Donald Trump, to the French elections, the Brexit,, as examples

:33:50.:33:55.

of a mood of unhappiness. What Mr Corbyn I think hope to do is to be

:33:56.:34:01.

able to surf the wave, as he sees it, of this consent -- of

:34:02.:34:08.

discontent, a feeling that things have got to change. If you look at

:34:09.:34:14.

the polls, he's in a really difficult position, so we can't just

:34:15.:34:21.

play it safe, he's got to try and shake up the election, and that's

:34:22.:34:24.

what he's trying to do. And they have all got to put out their

:34:25.:34:31.

manifestos, with clear commitments - when are we going to get that

:34:32.:34:36.

clarity? I don't think we'll get it for possibly a couple of weeks yet,

:34:37.:34:41.

actually. On the Labour side, they have got to be scribbling away

:34:42.:34:45.

rapidly, filling in all the gaps in their manifesto. They thought they

:34:46.:34:49.

would have a bit of time to put it together. I suspect at the end of

:34:50.:34:53.

the day, they may have to copy and paste a lot of Ed Miliband's old

:34:54.:34:57.

manifesto because there plea isn't time. But maybe for Mr Corbyn, this

:34:58.:35:02.

is going to be an election which he wants to fight less about specifics

:35:03.:35:07.

and more about, if I can put it this way, mood and tone. He's always been

:35:08.:35:13.

an outsider I suppose in Westminster terms, he's never really lead

:35:14.:35:17.

anything, never aspired to be a leader, a he finds himself in this

:35:18.:35:22.

position, and working now to try to play the role of a conventional

:35:23.:35:26.

leader, it would seem odd and false. So I think his people think that

:35:27.:35:29.

it's easier for him just to be authentic Jeremy Corbyn. The risk,

:35:30.:35:37.

of course, is that they've judged it wrongly, that actually, the world

:35:38.:35:41.

has not changed, and that politics is still won in the centre ground,

:35:42.:35:46.

you have to reassure your opponents and appeal to middle England, middle

:35:47.:35:52.

Britain. And if team Corbyn have called this wrong, then date could

:35:53.:35:55.

be in for a very, very difficult election indeed. The contrast,

:35:56.:36:01.

though, will be with the Theresa May side, who seem to be going for the

:36:02.:36:06.

exact opposite. Mrs May the other day was stressing the need for the

:36:07.:36:10.

military and security - those are the conventional messages which a

:36:11.:36:15.

would-be Prime Minister would invariably try and put over. Feel

:36:16.:36:20.

her team will have a much more contained, controlled campaign, Mrs

:36:21.:36:25.

May arriving at events, doing her speech, and trying to keep a tight

:36:26.:36:29.

grip on it, because they've got that huge lead in the poles. Jeremy

:36:30.:36:34.

Corbyn's team want this to be the opposite, they want it to be

:36:35.:36:36.

unpredictable, because that's their only chance. Otherwise, looking at

:36:37.:36:43.

the polls, they are heading to defeat. How important is it for the

:36:44.:36:48.

parties to try to understand what it is that the people want out of

:36:49.:36:53.

Brexit and to appeal to that and get a mandate? When you look at how

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votes broke down in the referendum, I think around seven in ten Labour

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voters actually voted Remain. Jeremy Corbyn was criticised but when you

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look at the figures, in spite of how the constituencies took down, it

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seems the majority of Labour voters were in favour of Remain? And what I

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think we need to look out for in Mr Corbyn's speech is Brexit - will he

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actually mention that word? At rallies and interviews he's done so

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far, he has kind of swerved around mentioning Brexit, because he knows

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the Labour, they're like a punch bag when it comes to Brexit. For their

:37:41.:37:46.

Remain supporters, they take the view that Mr Corbyn really hasn't

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done enough to put up a fight against Mrs May's version of Brexit.

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And four Brexit supporting Labour folk, they take the view that Mr

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Corbyn seems a bit lukewarm on Brexit - so, they're getting it from

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both sides on Brexit. For that reason, they risk losing some of

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their Remain supporters to the Liberal Democrats and some of their

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Brexit supporters to the Conservatives. And one interesting

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thing which Mr Corbyn might get arrest on today is the suggestion

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that maybe Labour are going to have to come up with some kind of offer

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on Brexit. They can't just stand there taking the blows on Brexit

:38:29.:38:31.

come they're going to have to come up with a clearer line. There is a

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report that perhaps some in the party might be pressing Mr Corbyn to

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say that when there is a deal, it should be put to a second

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referendum. That's not confirmed, it was just a report in the paper, but

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it gives you a sense of the bunnies on this issue for Labour. Vista

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Corbyn does not want to talk about Brexit - anything but Brexit. That's

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partly why we have got this launch, all about whipping up the rules, he

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wants to change the narrative and move onto other stories. Whereas

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Theresa May, exactly the opposite, she wants to position herself as the

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Brexit candidate. As so often in elections, it will probably hinge on

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who decides the terms of the election, who shapes the narrative

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and decides what it will be all about. Can Jeremy Corbyn change the

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narrative and move it away from Brexit, where Mrs May wants it to

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be? Thank you, Norman. We were expecting him around half past ten.

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He's still not talking, so we're going to go onto something else for

:39:46.:39:46.

now. Millions of people across the UK

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live with diseases such as Alzheimer's, Parkinson's

:39:54.:39:56.

and multiple sclerosis But today, scientists are announcing

:39:57.:39:57.

a major breakthrough. They've discovered two

:39:58.:40:04.

drugs that could help The lead researcher,

:40:05.:40:05.

Giovanna Mallucci, says clinical There would be a daily

:40:06.:40:10.

dose, basically. We'd probably use trazodone

:40:11.:40:17.

first, which is already We're not going to cure these

:40:18.:40:19.

disorders, but if we can stop them in their tracks and change the way

:40:20.:40:32.

they progress, we can radically change the course of the natural

:40:33.:40:35.

history of diseases like Alzheimer's Because people will still be able to

:40:36.:40:44.

hold onto a meaningful quality of life and stay out of institutional

:40:45.:40:45.

care. Our correspondent James

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Gallagher joins me now. People will be saying, how

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significant could this be? First of all, there is no queue for any of

:40:59.:41:00.

these diseases, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's. Now we can talk about

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why this is incredibly exciting. Because what this team have been

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able to do is to stop neurodegenerative diseases from

:41:12.:41:13.

killing brain cells, basically for the first time. So, if you have

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Alzheimer's disease, brain cells slowly die off, that's what causes

:41:18.:41:22.

the memory loss and the other changes and that is why ultimately

:41:23.:41:26.

it becomes fatal. Similar processes happen in lots of other diseases.

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So, if it stops the brain cells dying, does it need to be

:41:32.:41:34.

preventative, it is not going to reverse anything? Is not some kind

:41:35.:41:37.

of thing where you're going to be able to regenerate the brain and

:41:38.:41:42.

create new brain cells, but it is more like a pause button. So, the

:41:43.:41:46.

day you walk into your doctors surgery and they go, we think you've

:41:47.:41:49.

got early stages of dementia, and you can then start on this course of

:41:50.:41:54.

therapy, and it works, which hasn't been tested yet, then it would stop

:41:55.:41:59.

it getting worse. If you think, this could prevent you needing to going

:42:00.:42:02.

to a care home, things like that. So it could be incredibly effective,

:42:03.:42:06.

even though it's not going to reverse these diseases. And it would

:42:07.:42:10.

give you an incentive to go and find out, because at the moment there is

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no incentive at all, if you fear you might be heading down that path, and

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there's nothing to make it any better, what is the incentive in

:42:18.:42:21.

actually finding out? That's right. A lot of people are scared of the

:42:22.:42:24.

diagnosis because they know there is nothing you can do about it. There

:42:25.:42:28.

is no drug which slows the cause of dementia. The other big problem,

:42:29.:42:31.

though, is that dementia starts probably at least a decade, maybe

:42:32.:42:35.

two, before the first symptoms appear. So you've already had

:42:36.:42:38.

several years of the disease before you start developing the Thames, the

:42:39.:42:43.

brain is so good at adapting that it masks some of the symptoms. --

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developing the symptoms. So is the potential that you could even start

:42:48.:42:51.

much sooner, before the symptoms even appear. But that is all in the

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future. I think Jeremy Corbyn is now just about ready to speak. We can go

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to our political guru Norman Smith, who is outside the building. Is he

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about to start speaking, do we think? I sincerely hope so. One

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thing I've learned from covering Jeremy Corbyn over many years, he's

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always late! Hopefully he will

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