21/04/2017 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello, it's Friday, it's 9am, I'm Joanna Gosling in for Victoria.

France under attack again - a gun man opens fire on a policeman

on the historic Champs-Elysee in central Paris, killing one

Authorities say he was known to them.

TRANSLATION: We are convinced that the investigations

will show that this attack was terrorist in nature.

We'll be bringing you live updates and analysis

Also on today's programme - a clearer picture is emerging

of young people who commit computer crimes, or hackers.

A report by the National Crime Agency says that they do it to show

off to other teenagers, NOT to make money.

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The French authorities say they know the identity of the man

who shot dead a policeman, and seriously wounded two others,

on the Champs-Elysees in central Paris last night.

The gunman was killed when officers returned fire, but prosecutors say

they won't release his name until they know whether or not

The French President, Francois Hollande, has said he's

The Islamic State group has claimed responsibility.

The area is dangerous because of shot gun.

In the minutes after the attack, the police in Paris took every

At this stage officers didn't know if any other gunmen

The shooting happened right in the centre of the city,

as Parisians and tourists were heading out to dinner.

TRANSLATION: I was walking on the pavement.

The man parked just in front of the bus and then he got out

a Kalashnikov and then he shot six times.

TRANSLATION: We were moving towards a car and then

I heard two or three shots, but I didn't realise

And, well, then there was just panic all around.

Everyone started running down the Champs-Elysee.

Just by instinct, I didn't stop to work

out what was going on, I just ran too.

The Champs-Elysee was already full of police officers guarding

against an attack on civilians, but it seems that this shooting

TRANSLATION: We are convinced that the track the investigation

is on will reveal that the event is of a terrorist nature.

Late into the night here the police are still stopping people

from approaching the scene of the attack just a block

And everyone around here wants to know exactly what happened.

The police want to make sure that all nearby streets are now safe.

They searched everyone coming out of a nearby building.

This country will now investigate the shooting and make sure

that its plans for Sunday's presidential election are in place.

The French Prime Minister has also been speaking

Bernard Cazeneuve said that the attack would not stand

in the way of the election taking place.

TRANSLATION: Ladies and gentlemen, the Government is fully mobilised

that nothing will stop this fundamental democratic moment for

our country from damning dead. On the eve of a major rendezvous, I

call on everyone to show the spirit of responsibility and dignity. It is

our duty to not give in to fear, intimidation, and manipulation.

Otherwise, this would only serve the gain is the enemies of the Republic.

Also will, we should never succumb to division, and in tolerance, which

must be fought. It is indeed unity more than ever that shall prevail.

We will be talking much more about this throughout the programme, there

was of course swift security reaction to this incident, as there

was at the attack at the Louvre recently, so we will be asking what

lessons have been learned in France after the terror attacks that have

happened there in recent years. More than 230 people killed in France

since January 2000 and 15. We will also talk about the impact this

might have on the election as French voters go to the polls in the first

round of the presidential election on Sunday. If you have any thoughts

on that or anything else we are covering, do get in touch in the

usual ways. Annita is in the BBC

Newsroom with a summary German prosecutors have confirmed

they have arrested a 28-year-old man suspected of bombing

the Borussia Dortmund Prosecutors say the man, who has

German and Russian nationality, was a market trader hoping to make

money if the price of With us now is our Berlin

Correspondent, Jenny Hill. In the immediate aftermath of the

attack as people speculated what the attack might be -- what the motive

of the attack might become this probably was not one of the things

that came to mind. No, this has taken a bizarre twist.

Dortmund is one of Germany's most beloved football teams and many

people feared the country had once again been targeted by Islamist

extremists. Instead, as you say, prosecutors have now arrested this

man, in his late 20s, with joint German and Russian nationality. They

said that prior to the attack he bought something like 15,000 stock

market options which enable you to sell shares when they drop in value,

so the idea, prosecutors believe, was that he was motivated by gaining

significantly financially should the shares of the Dortmund football club

drop significantly. They believe that is his motive but they also say

he was staying at the same hotel as the players, his hotel room had a

line of sight to the site of the explosions. We have had more detail

about those explosions, you may have heard that three devices had been

planted in a hedge along the roadside, two at ground level, one

higher ups. They were packed with metal pins, one of which was found

embedded in a headrest inside the players' coach as it passed. One of

them was also found 250 metres from the original site of the explosive

device, so a very nasty attack indeed. We also know that in the

event just two people were injured, a police man who suffered minor

injuries and one of the players, who had to have surgery on his wrist

following damage from broken glass from the back of the bus, we think.

So the story has taken an odd turn but I think there will be many who

are rather relieved this has not been another systematic IS attack on

German soil. Nevertheless, this could have been a very deadly attack

and prosecutors are planning a press conference at around lunchtime

today. Just briefly, has there been any

reaction to this particular development, this bizarre

development, as you describe it, from rusted Dortmund or others?

It is a little early in the day, prosecutors have only just issued

the statement so we are waiting for reaction to come through. I think

you have to bear in mind that Borussia Dortmund is a very popular

club in Germany, possibly one of its most well loved, there was a real

sense of outrage that anyone would strike and strike in this way on a

football team, Germany's national game, there is such a passion here

for football, this attack really struck a chord not just with bands

of the game but people here in Germany and of course football fans

all over the globe. OK, Jenny, thank you very much for

that. Government plans described

by critics as a stealth death The proposals involved increasing

the fees paid by some people The Ministry of Justice said

there was now not enough time for the legislation

to go through Parliament. Prison authorities in the US state

of Arkansas have carried out their first execution for more

than a decade. The lethal injection of Ledell Lee,

who was convicted of murder, was given the go-ahead just

30 minutes before his It's the first of several executions

planned before supplies of one The average cybercriminal

investigated by the National Crime Agency is just 17-years-old

and is motivated by showing off in front of friends,

rather than money. That's the conclusion

of a new report by the NCA, which has been looking at ways

to stop youngsters getting The internet is breeding a new kind

of criminal who'd never normally They're young and tech savvy

and sometimes don't even realise Investigators questioned teenagers

convicted of cyber crime The report found financial

gain wasn't a priority. But they did want to

impress other hackers. And thought the risk

of getting caught was low. The early motivations

can be the challenge, can be proving to their peers online

that they can complete the challenge or they can break into certain

things, or find vulnerabilities. But we do see, if they are good

at that and if they can build their reputations in forums

and prove to their peers, we do see them then getting

into this more for monetary This self-confessed hacker, now 16,

claims he taught himself. I got interested, wanted to know how

it worked and how this actually happens, how a website

gets taken down. You learn about the Computer Misuse

Act, which is something you are likely to fall

foul of if you go off and do cyber security

without any guidance. The NCA research also shows

early intervention can Here, teenagers take part

in a tech competition, learning how to hack and stay

on the right side of the law. And just after 10am,

Joanna will be speaking to a former teenage hacker

about his motivations to get Three purpose-built blocks

are to open within high-security jails to hold the most dangerous

extremist prisoners away The units will have their own

facilities and be able Ministers have said they wanted

to isolate extremist inmates who seek to poison

the minds of others. A ban on sugary drinks in hospitals

in England is being proposed, unless suppliers cut their sales

over the next year. NHS England say it must

set a healthy example to help combat obesity,

diabetes and tooth decay, but the soft drinks industry says it

shouldn't be singled out. It's said that a spoonful of sugar

helps the medicine go down, but the country's sweet tooth

is having a devastating impact on public health,

according to NHS England. It insists suppliers

must cut the sales of sugary drinks in hospital shops,

restaurants and vending machines over the next year to under 10%

of total drink sales. Many retailers, including WH Smith

and Marks Spencer, have signed up. NHS England say if all don't

come on board, a ban As a nation we are consuming too

much sugar which means more people are overweight, putting them

at greater risk of type 2 diabetes, heart disease and common

forms of cancer. So this is the NHS taking a lead

on an important health issue. To fight obesity, the WHO recommends

a maximum of six teaspoons Just one can of drink can take

you over that limit. The idea of making hospitals

healthier is aimed not just at patients and their visitors,

it is also sending a message The NHS employs 1.3 million people

but it is believed 700,000 of them In Scotland, 70% of drinks must be

sugar free in hospital shops. Wales and Northern Ireland have

introduced their own eating But the British Soft Drinks

Association says while it makes sense to promote sales of healthy

options, soft drinks should not be singled out for a potential ban,

particularly when companies have made great efforts

to reduce calories. That is a summary of the main news.

Let's go to sport, some sad news this morning.

Extremely sad news, in the last few moments we have found out that

former England international Hugo Ek York has passed away. A statement

came this morning from Spurs, where he had been working as a coach.

If you are not familiar with the career of Ugo Ehiogu, he made over

200 appearances for Aston Villa between 1991 and 2000. He then spent

seven years with Middlesbrough, when the League Cup, as you can see

there, with Villa in 1996 and also with Middlesbrough in 2004. He was

capped four times by England and also played for a number of clubs up

and down the country including West Bromwich Albion, Leeds, Rangers and

Sheffield United before he retired in 2009. This will be devastating

news for everyone concerned with all of those clubs. He was seen as one

of football Cosma good guys, a fantastic personality on and off the

pitch. His work with Spurs will have made him one of the highest position

and black coaches in English football so it will be devastating

news for many concerned with the game.

Very sad, just 44 years old. We will be talking more about him and hear

more tributes to him throughout the programme.

Let's turn to what was happening in terms of football last night. Marcus

Rashford putting in a great performance for Manchester United?

Another good night for wonderkid Marcus Rashford.

The 19-year-old Manchester United forward added to his goal

against Chelsea last weekend with the winner in their Europa

League quarter-final against Belgian side Anderlecht at Old Trafford.

It's been somewhat of a disappointing season

personally for Rashford, only scoring 10 in 49 appearances

in all competitions, but this was a vital one.

Just like the first-leg, it ended 1-1 on the night

which meant extra time but with a penalty shootout looming

Rashford showed neat footwork to quell any anxiety

There were some very concerned faces though as United lost two

of their most influential players to knee injuries.

Defender Marcos Rojo and top scorer Zlatan Ibrahimovic

could have played their last matches this season.

Manager Jose Mourinho says he isn't optimistic after early

That will be a big concern with a place in the top four

And a terrific night for two more Britons?

Well what a fantastic performance from 17-year-old Ellie Downie.

She has become the first British Gymnast to reach

every individual final at the European Gymnastics

She also topped the all around standings, and the vault and floor

standings in Romania and also qualified for the beam and bars.

Her older sister Becky joins her in those two finals

with 16-year-old Alice Kinsella going in the all around.

Claudia Fragapane will go in the floor final.

Ellie Downie saying she is delighted with her performances so far. There

is still room for improvement. We will find out about that later

today. There is really much room for improvement when it comes to

swimming. Duncan Scott hailed a phenomenal day

as he's become the first Briton to swim under 48 seconds in the 100

metres freestyle. Scott broke his own national record,

clocking 47.9 seconds to win gold at the British Swimming

Championships in Sheffield. That also gave him a place at this

summer's World Championships. Scott won two Olympic relay silver

medals at last year's Very good news for him. Just to

recap before we go, that devastatingly sad news that we have

heard this morning. Ugo Ehiogu has passed away at the age of 44, due to

a cardiac arrest. We will hear more tributes to Ugo

Ehiogu throughout the programme. We can bring you this from the official

FA Twitter account. We are devastated to hear the news that Ugo

Ehiogu has passed away. Described as one of football's good guys. Just 44

years old. He was the under 23 coach at Tottenham. He collapsed at the

training ground yesterday after suffering a cardiac arrest. Very

sadly, Tottenham announced his death this morning. They have put out a

statement, with immense sadness we announce the passing of Ugo Ehiogu.

He had a great playing career, playing for England, beginning his

career as a trainee at West Brom before he went to Aston Villa. He

played more than 300 matches for Aston Villa and played in the FA Cup

final defeat against Chelsea in 2000. He scored a club record fee

when he joined Middlesbrough for ?8 million. In 2001 he scored his only

goal for England in Sven-Goran Eriksson's first game in charge, a

3-0 friendly against Spain. He had four England caps. The FA saying

this morning that they are devastated to hear the news that Ugo

Ehiogu has passed away. We will bring you more tributes to him

throughout the programme. Last night, as the 11 French

presidential election candidates appeared on television

for their chance to pitch for the top job, a terror attack

was unfolding in central Paris. A gunman - known to the security

services it has since been learnt - opened fire on a bus with police

inside killing one It comes with just two days to go

before the first round of the French presidential election on Sunday.

This is what Marine Le Pen of the far right Front National

and Emmanuel Macron, head of the political movement

En Marche, said when they heard about the attack.

TRANSLATION: I left the set earlier and I heard that the nightmare

I was gripped by feelings I felt before, of sadness and dull

Feelings of sadness, of course, for the law-enforcement officers

who are once more paying a heavy price in the fight against

TRANSLATION: Tonight, while we have been talking, we know

that at least one police officer has been killed.

This threat is incalculable and it is going to be

a part of our daily lives for years to come.

The latest of elements are coming through, Marine Le Pen is speaking

right now. Let's hear what she's saying. -- developments.

TRANSLATION: We should fight those that provoke people and promote

terrorism. The sympathisers of Islamists should be fought. For ten

years, we have seen this happening. In respect of the state of law, the

penal code should be applied to those people, while people are being

judged and being held in detention. The universities and France have

become the fiefdom of jihadism. We should have fundamental reforms

for the establishment, like immigration, asylum or access to

citizenship. The war can only be one by coherence, and our fight against

Islamism, so that they cannot escape from this. We cannot win this war if

we do not put an end to those who have allowed the criminals to carry

out their fourth assassination attempt against a policeman, and he

was sentenced to prison in the past. His liberation by prosecutors, he

will now become the symbol of the failure of the politics in the

country, because it is not protecting the French people. It

allows people to hurt our people. We should re-establish a double

penalty, double punishment, sentences, all of these measures are

urgently needed now. I will take the reverse decision, compared to the

two governments of the left that we have seen in the past years, and the

President of the Republic, if elected as President of the

Republic, I will put in place a plan to fight Islamist and, to protect

the French, so that we can live in the Republic. Long live the

Republic, long live France. Thank you. Marine Le Pen, speaking there

about reports that the man, believed to have carried out the terror

attack in Paris, had previously been sentenced to 15 years in prison for

attempted to kill a police officer. He has still not been formally

named. In Belgium, they are saying he is a French citizen. There was

some spec elation he may have come from Belgium. We still do not have

formal identification from the authorities. They say they do not

want to formally identify the attacker, although they know who he

is, until they can be certain there was not a second attack. Let's go

live to Paris, and our correspondent there. What is the latest on the

investigation, Karin? In the last hour, we have learned that three

people close to the attacker have been held in custody, and one man in

Belgium turned himself in to authorities. He was a suspect. The

authorities are not telling us to much more about the attacker until

they work out whether he was acting alone or as part of a wider network.

We heard Marie Le Pen, very much still on the campaign trail, saying

what she believes should have been done because this man was already

known to authorities. Very much criticising governments of recent

years, saying what she would do, alternatively, as President, were

she to be elected. 15, the far right National Front is anti-immigration.

She wants to close France's borders, pull-out of the Schengen zone, with

free movement in Europe, completely. How much is her message resonating?

France has suffered repeatedly with attacks over the last couple of

years or so. Within the polls, she is not the front runner. The latest

ones have her sliding further back? Yes, they are really interesting.

Although some people are saying that the attacks of last night could mean

a swing to the right, a swing towards those candidates, Francois

Fillon and Marine Le Pen, who are perhaps considered to be stronger

and tougher on law and order, but in the past we have to remember that,

after the shootings at the Bataclan, the socialist President, his ratings

actually went up. It is much more complicated to see the political

picture. It was already very complicated in the first place, the

four leading candidates within a hair 's breadth of each other, and

20%, all around the margin of error. The election has been completely

predictable, even more so now. Thank you. Let's talk more about the

reaction to the attack and the potential impact on the presidential

election, the first round of voting is on Sunday. The candidates were

speaking in a debate last night. Thank you both for joining us. What

is the reaction to the latest attack? Well, the atmosphere is

subdued. On the other hand, it is something that the French have

become accustomed to. We know we're here for a long haul. These are

likely to repeat themselves. It It might have a slight impact on how

people will vote on Sunday. But I would not say massively. You know,

not as if it had happened for the first time. Other subjects, like the

economy, loom larger than terrorism. That is really the feeling in

France. It is a global issue. Radical Islamism is here to stay.

What about the charge that in this attack, and in previous ones, the

perpetrator was known to the authorities? It is a theme that

keeps coming back. We heard from Marine Le Pen, saying that the

Government must immediately expel foreigners monitored by intelligence

services. How do people react, each time, when it emerges some body was

on the radar? Well, you must give credit to the people in the

intelligence agencies. It is not just a question of closing borders.

They know that very well. The situation is quite complicated.

Again, it goes far beyond the French borders. It is perhaps something we

have to deal with in Belgium, for instance. It is also about

cooperation between the intelligence services. Actually, a few days ago,

you might remember that two Islamist radicals were arrested in Marseille,

thanks to rate from British intelligence services. Again, Marine

Le Pen is extremely vocal, she is very vocal about every single

subject. It will appeal to some French voters. But I think being so

vocal has a limited appeal. There was a swift reaction from the

authorities to this attack. It was over quickly. The same happened at

the Louvre, when there was an attempted attack. What have the

security services learned as a result of what has been happening in

the country? There are some things we don't know. We also know that

there have been a lot of foiled attacks. Recently, as I said, two

people were arrested in Marseille. Because of the first and second

round, it is a very sensitive period for France and attacks are being

devised. Imagine yesterday, the attacker had a Kalashnikov, he did

not aim at the many civilians and tourists walking down the Champs

Elysees, but targeted the security forces. It could have been much more

dramatic yesterday. You know, we have to be careful. Yesterday was a

terrible blow. But we're not talking about massive numbers of casualties,

like we had in November 20 15. What about the psychological and also

economic impact? Well, one attack after the other

means that, of course, tourism is on the decline in Paris, which is one

of the first capital cities visited in the world, and in France, on the

other hand, like as you said in the loop attack, or for that matter

yesterday, the police reaction is now extremely swift, and attackers

are shot dead immediately. Sorry to interrupt, I was going to say, let's

talk more about the election because we were intending to speak to you

about that, obviously, because of the fact that we are just two gave

away from France coming to the Goals On Sunday in the first round of the

presidential vote -- going to the polls on Sunday. We talked about

Marine le Pen, she was speaking live as we came to you. What about the

other candidates now, is it looking like it will be Emmanuel Macron and

Marine le Pen in the final two, because that is what the polls have

been indicating? That is what the polls say. Of course now, who knows,

after Brexit and Trump being elected, and also Francois Fillon,

French pollsters are usually extremely reliable but they did not

see Francois Fillon coming fast at the top of the primary is on the

French right. So, I mean, it is very likely that Emmanuel Macron will

face of Marine le Pen on Sunday. However, there are six possible

scenarios and one of them is the hard left Jean-Luc Melenchon on

facing the hard right Marine le Pen, that is a possibility that we are

all bracing to see on Sunday, so I wouldn't put all my bets on Emmanuel

Macron and Marine le Pen. And you said that with so many terror

attacks obviously it is high on the agenda, but also the economy, what

has been dominating the political debate there? Well, basically Marine

le Pen and Jean-Luc Melenchon on, who have enjoyed really dynamic in

the polls, especially Jean-Luc Melenchon on, if you look at their

economic programme, it is all about spending, spending, spending.

Created massive public debt, which is already quite high in France. It

is about giving away benefits. Marine le Pen has a National

socialist sort of programme and both of them meet on the economic ground.

Fillon and Macron, and to aid certain degree the Socialist

candidate, have a much more restrained programme so I think

people should look carefully at those programmes to see whether

France can afford a populist candidate like Marine le Pen and

Jean-Luc Melenchon. Thank you very much.

Why do young people get into hacking?

More than 60% of hackers start before they are 16. We will speak to

one former hacker, a so-called good hacker, who was investigated by

police at school because of a piece of software he had written all about

what is behind it. If you have any thoughts, get in touch in the usual

ways. Also in the programme,

we'll go to an Indonesian island where people live with their dead

relatives. Here's Anita in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news. The French authorities say they know

the identity of the man who shot dead a policeman,

and seriously wounded two others, on the Champs-Elysees

in central Paris last night. Three people said to be close to the

attacker have now been detained. The gunman was killed when officers

returned fire but prosecutors say they won't release his name

until they know whether or not The French Prime Minister,

Bernard Cazeneuve, said the attack won't stand in the way of the French

election taking place this Sunday. TRANSLATION: Ladies and gentlemen,

the government is fully mobilised that nothing will stop this

fundamental democratic moment On the eve of a major rendezvous,

I call on everyone to show the spirit of responsibility

and dignity. It is our duty to not give

in to fear, intimidation, Otherwise, this would

only serve the gain Also, we should never

succumb to division, excess obscurantism,

and intolerance, It is indeed unity more than ever

that should prevail. The former Aston Villa and England

defender Ugo Ehiogu has He suffered a cardiac

arrest at Tottenham's training centre yesterday,

where he worked as the coach Ehiogu was capped four times

for his country and won the League Cup with both Aston Villa

and Middlesbrough. German prosecutors have confirmed

they have arrested a 28-year-old man suspected of bombing

the Borussia Dortmund Prosecutors say the man, who has

German and Russian nationality, was a market trader hoping to make

money if the price of Government plans described

by critics as a stealth death The proposals involved increasing

the legal fees paid by some people The Ministry of Justice said

there was now not enough time for the legislation

to go through Parliament. The average cybercriminal

investigated by the National Crime Agency is just 17-years-old

and is motivated by showing off in front of friends,

rather than money. That's the conclusion

of a new report by the NCA, which has been looking at ways

to stop youngsters getting It says hacking tools have

become too easy to use. And just after 10am,

Joanna will be speaking to a former teenage hacker

about his motivations for getting Three purpose-built blocks

are to open within high-security jails to hold the most dangerous

extremist prisoners away The units will have their own

facilities and be able Ministers have said they wanted

to isolate extremist inmates who seek to poison

the minds of others. A ban on sugary drinks in hospitals

in England is being proposed, unless suppliers cut their sales

over the next year. NHS England say it must

set a healthy example to help combat obesity,

diabetes and tooth decay, but the soft drinks industry says it

shouldn't be singled out. That is a summary of the latest BBC

News, Moore at 10am. Let's catch up with the sport with

Hugh, more tributes pour Ugo Ehiogu. Yes, and outpouring of emotion

already for the former defender Ugo Ehiogu, he has died at the age of

44. He was under 23s coach at Spurs, they announced the news this

morning, with immense sadness, he collapsed at their training Centre

yesterday after suffering a cardiac arrest. He won the League Cup with

Aston Villa in 1996 and in 2004 with Middlesbrough and was capped four

times by England. Manchester United are into

the Europa League semi-finals, It took until the second half

of extra time to win it, though - teenager Marcus Rashford got

the decisive goal before Tiger Woods has had yet another

operation on his back to try to cure the pain that's plagued his career

over the last few years - it's his third surgery in 19 months,

and he's likely to be out of action Ellie Downie is on the verge

of becoming the first British gymnast to win the all-around title

at the European Championships. The 17-year-old was top

in qualifying for tonight's She's also through to every

individual apparatus final - a first for any British gymnast

at a major international More sport just after 10am.

Plans to raise the amount of money some families have to pay after a

family member dies have been dropped. The Ministry of Justice

blamed lack of Parliamentary time before the general election. That

speak to our political correspondent Ross Hawkins. Is this the first

Parliamentary business casualty as a result of the election?

It is probably one of many. There was a big hike in the fees, what

happened is if someone dies and you have to sort out their will, you

have to pay a fee, about ?150 if you do it through your solicitor. There

was a big change in that announced earlier in the year where it would

be nothing for a smaller state with not a lot to inherit but for the

biggest it would go up to a five figure sum and plenty of

Conservatives, among others, was saying, this is

not a fee, this is a tax, how could the Justice Secretary Liz Truss have

the authority to do this? Opposition from them and from Labour in the

House of Lords, where it would have to be debated. What the Ministry of

Justice are saying is not that they have got it wrong, they said it is

down to time, but the reality is if they had pushed on with this they

would face pressure to get it through, and I am told privately

that some senior lawyers were looking into a legal challenge if it

came about to say she did not have the authority to do this, so they

backed away and we need to work out if this is going to be in any

manifesto to do it again after the general election. There is every

chance this is not just a casualty of an early general election but in

reality quite a big U-turn. Potential handicapper there was

something that could have been difficult. -- potential handy cover.

You said it is one of many potential items that may not get through

because of the timing, what else, how much business was due to happen?

One of the big stories of the election, the first few weeks, might

not just be what politicians promise they are going to do, it might be

what they decide they don't have time to do that they promised us

before, for example we won't hear big announcement on plans for

grammar schools, on new School funding formula, and what is coming

on at the moment, there are debates going on in private, behind closed

doors, between the Government and opposition about what happens to the

laws that are in parliament at the moment, and that could have a real

practical effect. Labour expect to get serious concessions on a bill

that deals with some digital services, there are measures that

relate to the BBC, they think they will manage to get a

concession on that, and on higher education plans, how universities

are assessed, a big part of the Government's programme, they think

they will get changes there as well as we rush to the point where, much

earlier than expected, this parliament will have to finish its

work. So there is real debate going on in Parliament that will have

practical impact and is likely to sue the Government's plans change as

they try to get everything put to bed so Parliament can stop, the MPs

can go relate and campaigning probable the general election.

. So we have to be Eagle eyed as to what is in those manifestos. At the

end of the week in which an election -- and election was unexpected

record, give us a summary of how the land lies now.

We are seeing a clear impression of how they are going to fight the

election. The Prime Minister making the case about Brexit, ironically

the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats talking about Brexit, they

know they can enter use their supporters, the Tories think they

can still plenty of Ukip supporters. Labour are trying to change the

conversation, define what the conversation is about. This morning

they are talking about school class sizes, Jeremy Corbyn putting himself

forward as an antiestablishment figure, and when you talk in private

to senior Labour people supported Jeremy Corbyn, and of course many

are not, they honestly sincerely believe the sort of exposure he will

get now, the way they will manage to get their policies out, because the

broadcast media will have to focus on their policies and give them

equal billing in the presentation, they think that they can turn around

the polls, which look pretty dire. One other thing going on at the

moment which could define the future of the Labour Party, though it is

not much talked about, as we speak counting is taking place in the

election to decide who runs the biggest union in the country, Unite,

is hugely important powerful union in the Labour Party and the big

question there, a fan in the past of Jeremy Corbyn,

Len McCluskey, whether he wins or someone who takes a different view

as to whether the union should be involved in Labour politics, Gerard

Coyne. Nothing definitive, one person saying it is neck and neck,

another says Len McCluskey is head-to-head. It sounds pretty

archaic, it is not what we discuss day-to-day, but the result will have

a massive impact on power politics inside Labour and who controls the

influence on key committees and the purse strings of the country's most

important union. When should we get those results?

It may depend on legal challenges, I am told there is a possibility they

could come out by the end of the day, it could be the afternoon, the

evening, later, but I think news will get out one way or another,

officially or unofficially, before too long.

Thank you. As investigations get under way

into last night's attack in Paris, we'll be bringing you the latest -

and asking what this means We have heard from one of the

candidates this morning, saying that there needs to be a security

crackdown and anyone on a terror watch list should be deported. That

is Marine Le Pen. It is anticipated that she will be one of the final

two, according to the polling. It is still very unpredictable. You can't

always rely on the polls. The country is going to the polling

booths on Sunday, as the country digests the news there has been

another terrorist attack. Let's talk more about Ugo Ehiogu,

who has died at the age of 44. He suffered a cardiac arrest yesterday

while working at eight Tottenham training centre. He spent several

years at Middlesbrough. Tottenham training centre. He spent several

years at Middlesbrough. Tottenham training centre. He spent several

years at Middlesbrough. A player who played with him at Middlesbrough.

Thank you for joining Bristol stop terrible news? Absolutely awful. The

first thing that springs to mind when you speak about Ugo is that he

was an absolute gentleman. A really generous person, and a funny guy. So

sad. A player with a great career. He played more than 300 times for

Aston Villa, and he had four England caps? An outstanding player. You

look at centre halves and he was right up there. Very quick, very

good on tackles, good in the air. As a midfielder, you knew he would win

all of his headers, his tackles, kept on top. He was a model

professional. Tell us more about him. The words that immediately came

to your mind in talking about him, gentlemen, kind, considerate,

generous. Tell us more about the man that you knew? As I said, just such

a kind... Didn't speak badly of anyone, just took life happily, ate

all of the right food, not really drinking, he looked after himself

really well. He was a model professional. If you look at the

modern-day professional, going back 20 years, it was a drinking culture.

He was not like that, he was a model professional. He would look after

himself. He was a total on and off the pitch. Neil Maddison, thank you

very much, former Middlesbrough player, remembering Ugo Ehiogu. We

will have more tributes throughout the programme.

Now we are going to show you a film in a minute which some of you may

find distressing, as it shows dead bodies.

If you have young children with you, you might not want them to see this.

Most of us don't like to talk, or even think about death,

and as modern medicine helps us push the boundary back it becomes

But on the Indonesian Island of Sulawesi, death -

or more specifically the dead - are a constant presence.

Centuries old traditions mean the dead share

Reporter Sahar Zand has been finding out.

The dead are a constant presence in Indonesia's island of Sulawesi.

For centuries, the dead have been sharing space with the living.

After someone dies, it can take months, sometimes even years,

Is this a morbid obsession, or could it be a healthier way

of dealing with the grief of losing a loved one?

Something I have had to face recently, when I lost my dad,

But there are some people who DO think they know.

In the Toraja region of Sulawesi, in Indonesia, centuries-old customs

make the dead a constant part of day-to-day life.

This is Danduro - he's 86 years old, and died over two years ago.

Ancient animist beliefs intertwine with newer religions,

Here, funerals take place months, and sometimes even years,

is kept in the house and cared for as if he's

To preserve corpses, formalin is often injected into the body.

My dad died three years ago, and we buried him in two days,

it was all very sudden, it was all very bam bam.

And to be honest with you, a few years on, I still feel

like I haven't adjusted, it was just too sudden,

What's really incredible is that none of these kids seem to be fazed

by the fact that there is a dead person lying here,

Like many people, I've never really liked the idea

So much so that when my own father passed away, I refused to go

and see his body one last time before his burial -

He died over 12 years ago, and his daughter looks after him.

This process, having him in the house, well,

in your case, for 12 years - do you think this helps

I wish I had that kind of opportunity to adjust

I mean, would I have his body in my house a few years after his death?

But I sure would have liked the opportunity, and time to adjust,

so it wasn't all so sudden, so it wasn't like, one minute he's

there, and the next, he's gone for ever.

Cirinda will stay lying here until his family have saved up

This is a traditional Torajan funeral.

They often last for days, and dozens of pigs and

Funerals are important, because this is where the deceased is finally

The physical relationship between the dead and the living

continues long after death, even after burials.

Once every couple of years, families bring the coffins

of long-departed relatives out of their graves and open them up

The ritual is called Ma'nene, or cleansing of the corpse.

From the sociological perspective, that's a kind of keeping social

interaction between those who are still alive and those

she's covered in her most treasured belongings.

They want me to show what she looked like before

She died three years ago, and got buried two years ago.

They kept her in the house for one year.

How do you think Ma'nene helps you deal with the grief?

All of this is so different to how I dealt with my father's

Buried him, yeah, and then until now?

Because you visit the grave of your father because you still

remember him as your father, and you still have emotional

So, perhaps the principles behind the rituals here are not very

Remembering our dead is something most of us try to do.

But Torajans don't leave that to chance.

And for them, there certainly appears to be great comfort

Our World: Living with the Dead will be shown over the weekend

on the BBC News Channel and will be available on the iPlayer.

It's part of the BBC world Service Life Stories Season.

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His story has been shared thousands of times on Facebook. We will talk

to a man with testicular cancer who has been raising awareness of the

disease. That is coming up after ten. Let's

catch up with the weather. We got used acquired weather over

recent days and weeks and that is not going to change. A decent enough

start for many of us. This is the scene in County Durham. Some sunny

spells to be had. Through the rest of today, across the southern half

of the country, it stays largely dry. Some spells of sunshine. For

Northern Ireland, north-west England, southern Scotland, a band

of rain sinking southwards. To the north of that, pretty chilly whether

developing this afternoon with some sunshine and a few showers. This

evening and overnight, this band of cloud and some patchy rain sinks

southwards across England and Wales. The cloud hanging around for

Northern Ireland as well. Scotland, with clear skies, will get very

cold. A widespread frost to take us into tomorrow morning. Wintry

showers in the north-east. The best of the brightness for Western

fringes, although Northern Ireland will stay disappointingly cloudy.

Highs of 15 in the south. A largely dry Bay on Sunday, but it will turn

much colder for the start of next week.

Hello, it's Friday, it's 10am, I'm Joanna Gosling.

France mobilises its security services after

The government says the attack won't affect

TRANSLATION: The Government is fully mobilised that nothing will stop

this democratic moment for our country from going ahead.

The authorities in Paris are treating the shooting

We'll be live in French capital shortly and get the insights

Also, it is believed more than 60 gay men have fled the Russian

republic of Chechnya, following what they describe

as an ongoing campaign of persecution by the security forces.

One man tells us he was detained and beaten.

And how one man shared his battle with testicular

We'll be asking him about raising awareness for the disease.

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

The French Prime Minister said everything will be done to protect

this Sunday's first round of the presidential election following last

night's suspected terror attack in central Paris. French authorities

said they know the identity of the man who shot dead a police man and

seriously wounded two others on the Shamsi said.

The gunman was killed when officers returned fire but prosecutors say

they won't release his name until they know whether or not

The French President, Francois Hollande, has said he's

The far right candidate Marine le Pen says France should immediately

reinstate border checks. Mesdames and messieurs you have

to stay back, please! The area is dangerous

because of a shot gun. In the minutes after the attack,

the police in Paris took every At this stage officers didn't know

if any of the gunman -- any other gunmen

might still be at large. The shooting happened right

in the centre of the city as Parisiennes and tourists

were heading out to dinner. TRANSLATION: I was walking

on the pavement, there was a bus full of police,

the man parked just in front of the bus and then he got out

a Kalashnikov and then he shot six times, I thought it was fireworks,

then he went and hid behind a lorry. TRANSLATION: We were moving

towards a car and then I heard two or three shots,

but to start with I did not Then there was panic all around,

everyone started running down I did not stop to find

out what was going on, The Champs-Elysees was already full

of police officers guarding against attack on civilians,

but it seems that this shooting TRANSLATION: We are convinced that

the track that the investigation is on will reveal that the event

is of a terrorist nature. Late into the night here,

the police are still stopping people from approaching the scene

of the attack just a block Everyone around here wants to know

exactly what happened, the police want to make sure that

all nearby streets are now safe. Officers kept their handguns drawn,

they searched everyone coming out This country will now investigate

the shooting and make sure that its plans for Sunday's

presidential election The former Aston Villa and England

defende Ugo Ehiogu has He suffered a cardiac

arrest at Tottenham's training centre on Thursday,

where he worked as the coach Ehiogu was capped four times

for his country and won the League Cup with both

Aston Villa and Middlesbrough. German prosecutors have confirmed

they have arrested a 28-year-old man suspected of bombing

the Borussia Dortmund Prosecutors say the man, who has

German and Russian nationality, was a market trader hoping to make

money if the price of Our Berlin correspondent said

bomber's motives may come as some Many people here in Germany feared

the country had once again been targeted by Islamist extremists.

Instead, as you say, prosecutors have now arrested this man, in his

late 20s, with joint nationality, Russian and German. They said that

prior to the attack he bought something like 15,000 stock market

devices which enable you to sell shares would they dropped in value,

so the idea, prosecutors believe, is the man was motivated by the idea of

gaining significantly financially, should the shares of the Dortmund

football club drop significantly. That, they believe, was his motive.

They also say he was staying at the same hotel as the players, in fact

his room had a line of sight to the site of the explosions. We have had

a little more detail about those explosions themselves, you

may have heard three devices had been planted in a hedge along the

roadside, two at ground level, one slightly higher up. They were packed

with metal pins, one of which was found embedded in a headrest inside

the team players' code as it passed. One was also found 250 metres from

the original site of the explosive device, so a very nasty attack

indeed. Government plans described

by critics as a 'stealth death The proposals involved increasing

the legal fees paid by some people The Ministry of Justice said

there was now not enough time for the legislation

to go through Parliament. The average cyber-criminal

investigated by the National Crime Agency is just 17-years-old

and is motivated by showing off in front of friends,

rather than money. That's the conclusion

of a new report by the NCA, which has been looking at ways

to stop youngsters getting It says hacking tools have

become too easy to use. And in a short while,

Joanna will be speaking to a former teenage hacker

about his motivations for getting Three purpose-built blocks

are to open within high-security jails to hold the most dangerous

extremist prisoners away The units will have their own

facilities and be able Ministers have said they wanted

to isolate extremist inmates who "seek to poison

the minds of others". A ban on sugary drinks in hospitals

in England is being proposed, unless suppliers cut their sales

over the next year. NHS England say it must

set a healthy example to help combat obesity,

diabetes and tooth decay, but the soft drinks industry says it

shouldn't be singled out. That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 10.30am. Do get in touch with us

throughout the morning - We are talking about what has been

happening in Paris, the latest terror attack, one police officer

killed and just two days before France goes to the Goals On Sunday

for the first round in the presidential elections. Let us know

your thoughts on that and everything else -- goes to the polls on Sunday.

Also the very sad death of Ugo Ehiogu. We can now join Hugh for

more tributes. Tributes have poured

in for the former England defender Ugo Ehiogu,

who has died at the age of 44 after collapsing at Tottenham's

training ground yesterday. Ehiogu won the League

Cup with Aston Villa in 1996, and was a coach

the under-23s at Spurs. He also won the League Cup

with Middlesbrough in a 20-year career that saw him play

for West Brom, Leeds, Rangers and Sheffield United,

before retiring in 2009. He began coaching

at Tottenham in 2014. His former team-mate Andy Townsend

has been speaking about his time with Ugo Ehiogu in the last hour.

He was a fantastic lad, fantastic team-mate. I had seen him quite a

lot recently in his new situation at Tottenham where he had been coaching

the younger boys. Absolute picture of health, that is why I am so

shocked. Ugo was an incredibly fit man as a player and certainly looked

absolutely on top form, so this has, such a shock and it is incredibly

sad news. There have been a huge number of

tributes paid today, especially on social media. Former England and

Manchester United captain Rio Ferdinand said, I cannot believe the

news that Ugo Ehiogu has passed away. Calm and warming company, my

heart goes out to his family. Rachel Yankee say she is devastated

to hear the news of the passing of Ugo Ehiogu, such a lovely kind band,

my thoughts are with his family and close friends.

Paul McGraw is another of his former Aston Villa team-mates. He says,

devastated Bob Ugo, a great friend, my heart goes out to his family and

friends, rest in peace. Current Manchester United and

England midfielder Michael Carrick says, tragic news about Ugo Ehiogu,

so sad, thoughts with his family and friends. A very difficult day for

everyone involved in football, but there is some news to talk about on

the pitch. Manchester United are into

the Europa League semi-finals but they needed an extra-time winner

to beat Anderlecht. Henrik Mikhitaryan put

United ahead early on but the Belgian side equalised -

and there was real concern for United when Zlatan Ibrahimovic

fell awkwardly and hurt his knee. Eventually, teenager Marcus Rashford

scored the winner that took them through 2-1 on the night,

3-2 overall. Duncan Scott has become the first

Briton to swim under 48 seconds Scott won two Olympic relay silver

medals in Rio last year. Last night he broke his

own national record, clocking 47.9 to win gold

at the British Swimming That also gave him a place at this

summer's World Championships. I'm absolutely delighted with that,

it is a bonus on top of winning. It is a good field, it is a field that

has lacked in previous years but is coming through to show force, and to

share the field of two Scott as well, delighted with that, most of

the browser there should be proud of their efforts -- boast of the boys

there. With two days to go before

the French presidential elections, the country's prime minister has

said nothing must be allowed to impede democracy, after

a suspected terror attack in Paris. Bernard Cazeneuve urged

citizens not to to give One policeman was killed and another

two injured in the attack last night on the Champs-Elysees,

before the gunman was shot dead. Three of the main presidential

candidates have called off rallies on what would have been

the final day of campaigning. One of them, the far-right

candidate Marine Le Pen, called for France's border controls

to be reinstated immediately, and for foreigners on security watch

lists to be expelled. TRANSLATION: I would like to restore

the Borders at Schengen and to start checking for every people so that we

can find the enemy. Soon we should put in place the expulsion of the

foreigners who have no identity, especially who failed in nationality

test. And to send them to their countries of origin and also to

share information about enemies, a global response should require the

recruitment of 15,000 further policemen and also international

cooperation to enforce our military capacity and use it effectively, and

also to use our diplomacy. Marine le Pen.

Our security correspondent, Frank Gardner is here in the studio.

And we can also speak to Stefan de Vries, a journalist based in Paris.

Frank, Marine le Pen saying people on security watch lists should just

be deported now, but it is a recurring theme, people who are on

the radar and attacks being carried out. It would be very unusual for an

attack like this to involve somebody who is a complete clean skin that

the police and authorities did not know about. The problem is it comes

down to numbers and resources. France has got an enormous number of

people on terror watch list, one figure I saw quoted was more than

10,000. Britain has over 3000. They cannot

go around arresting all of these people because there is not the

evidence, they are aware they have shown an interest in ices and

so-called Islamic State, in extremist propaganda, but until they

start plotting a crime and cross that line into criminal activity, it

is very hard for them to do something about it. What tabs can

they keep on that number of people? It is very resource intensive, they

can spend two months throwing everything at someone, tap their

phones, put watches on them, different people changing identities

and stop. It is enormously intensive and if nothing is shown in that time

they simply cannot afford to keep those resources on that target, they

will switch to somebody else. It may well be that person simply has not

shown their hand, that is what happened with 7/7, the London

bombings, Mohammad Sidique Khan, the ringleader, had not shown his hand

at the time they were aware of him, they switched to other targets, and

then of course he went into action. What really matters, I think, is

whether the right decisions are taken at the right time. They are

never going to have all the resources, the French, the British,

the Germans, anyone, because the numbers are so huge. Stefan, how do

people react when there is an attack and it emerges the person who

carried it out was on a watchlist? Of course the people in Paris

unfortunately after reduced to attacks, also reduced the fact that

thousands of police officers even soldiers are patrolling in the

street of the city. Whenever there is a new attack, people are, well,

they are not surprised any more and wonder how it is possible in such a

heavily guarded city that attacks are still possible, and also the

fact that, well, how is it possible that this criminal who was not on

the watchlist, contrary to earlier reports, he was a known criminal but

was not on the terror watchlist, he was on parole, he did not respect

his conditions of parole, so people are asking how is it possible that

this person was able to shoot, to attack police officers, something he

already was convicted for, because he attacked three police officers in

imprisonment and he was released imprisonment and he was released

about a year ago, so these are the questions the police forces in

France have to answer, and also the political parties, but it shows that

the attack, the terrorist threat, is still very serious in the city. A

different set of questions that you describe there for what gets looked

at in the aftermath of this attack. In terms of security and how it has

changed, you said that Paris is a heavily guarded city, describe what

it is like. I live in the heart of the city, a

residential neighbourhood, and every morning when I open my windows, icy

four soldiers patrolling. When I have my lunch, I see another patrol.

These soldiers, not the police. They are walking in fours. This is a

strange sight, in eight peaceful city, when you see soldiers on the

streets. There was a quick reaction by the security services to this

attack. A quick reaction when there was an attack at the Louvre,

underlining how things have changed? Yes, France has experienced an

extended period of emergency. They have the terrible attacks in 2015,

first against Charlie Hebdo, the newspaper, in January. Then they

have the Bataclan attacks, the theatre siege, " the shoot outs

between the police and people determined to go down fighting to

the last bullet. Then they had the Nice attack, when the truck drove

through and killed more than 80 people. France, they have had

murders in the church in Normandy, it has been one thing after another

for France. It is right up there as the top target for jihadists, for a

number of reasons. France has been very active abroad, it turned back

Al-Qaeda's conquest of Mali, it has been active in Afghanistan, the

Middle East, at home, there has been a controversial burqa van, you have

far right politicians talking about banning immigration, a lot of which

is feeding into Islamophobia. Then you have the suburbs, areas of

hopelessness, socially, in the suburbs of some French cities, where

whole communities feel completely disconnected from the French state.

Is there a sense that the political leaders, authorities are getting to

grips with how to handle the persistent threat? It is a paradox.

France has probably never been so safe, yet there are still new

attacks. Although they are on a smaller scale than the attacks we

saw in November 2015, with the Bataclan, it shows that the

terrorist threat is still real. The profile of terrorists, it is almost

always the same. They start out as a petty criminals, they are

radicalised in prison and when they get out they attack a target. The

last couple of attacks we have seen in France have been very targeted

attacks on police officers or soldiers. People in France are

unfortunately getting used to these kinds of attacks. The Government

says we are at war, people get used to a war rhetoric. Unfortunately, it

is something that the French will have to deal with. We have just seen

a clip of Marine Le Pen, when she spoke only an hour ago, about the

fact that she wants to close borders, she wants to deport

foreigners on terror watch lists. This rhetoric, the war rhetoric, it

goes well with her electorate. In general, the French do not really

believe in tougher security measures. What do people believe is

the answer and what has the government been doing in trying to

tackle radicalisation? One of the things that should be tackled is the

root of the problem. I think your guests just mentioned that, the very

bad economical situation, there are ghettos in the country where people

do not have the feeling that they belong to the French republic.

Basically, they are saying we never hear of the state, why should the

state here something from us? They are disconnected. In some areas,

unemployment is about 35%, youth unemployment above 50%. These people

do not have any hope any more. They don't believe in the French state.

They start out as petty criminals, drug dealers, and then slowly some

of them get radicalised in prison. They become terrorists. It is not a

very... It is a very complicated issue and the solutions are never

simple. At the bad economic situation is one of the roots of the

reason why France is such a high-profile target. France, as we

have said, goes to the polls on Sunday, the first round of the

presidential election. Do you expect this to have an impact? Absolutely,

security measures will be very serious. There are over 60,000

polling stations in the country. There are 50,000 police officers

patrolling the streets, as well as many thousands of soldiers.

Physically, it is impossible to protect all of these polling

stations. There is another problem, the fact that if you let armed

police officers into a polling station, that is a very bad sign for

democracy. The French will try to do anything to make sure there will not

be any attacks this Sunday. At the same time, we see the tension

between security and liberty on the other side, or democracy. It is a

very, very difficult problem. I think most of the French will go to

the polling stations this Sunday feeling secure. But it may be a

reason for some people to stay at home. Thank you both very much.

Beaten and tortured because he was gay -

the BBC speaks to one man who describes his

Cyber-crime is becoming increasingly easy, according to new research

The National Crime Agency interviewed 80 teenagers that had

been investigated by the police for offences such as hacking.

It found that more than half of them had first got involved

before their 16th birthdays, and they generally believed

A hacker that was interviewed for the research said he didn't

consider victims because he didn't see the real people

Let's talk to Jake Davis, who became involved with hacktivist movement

Anonymous when he was a teenager, and was given a prison sentence

for being a member of LulzSec - a group that hacked several

organisations including the Sun newspaper.

And Mike Godfrey, an online security expert and "good hacker"

who was investigated by the police when he was at school for a piece

Tell me what it was that made you start hacking as a teenager? I grew

up in a remote location, the Shetland Islands, with very little

to do. I saw this thing, the computer, this amazing window into

another world. I wanted to know why it did the things that it did. Why,

when opening a piece of software, it connects with other pieces of

software, what made the mouse move? Deconstructing it. That curiosity. I

think that is what drives a lot of young hackers, and led to me

becoming part of the hacker subculture. What was the first thing

you hacked? I suppose like most kids do, I messed with the school

computer network. I didn't get in trouble for that I helped them fix

it. In terms of the Anonymous collective, which I was arrested for

being involved with, in 2011 we would to face government websites,

especially countries such as Libya, Zimbabwe, Egypt, during the Arab

Spring, in support of protests, against dictators, we would replace

the with messages of support from Anonymous. Where their political

reasons to do that? That is different from hacking a school

computer system. Of course. Was literally going back to the first

one. There was no financial gain, it was politically motivated. The

report, which I think is very accurate, there is very little

financial motivation in the black hat hacking world. A lot of it is

politically motivated or, more commonly, kudos from other hackers.

Often they forget the website itself has been hacked, it is just a

mechanism to impress other hackers. It is almost like it is not real?

You become desensitised to the very nature of the website being taken

out. Ironically, it is the last thing you are thinking about. Is

that how you see it? Teenagers think it is effectively a game, a

challenge? Definitely. I think that is why a lot of young people get

into hacking, it is a challenge. As Jake said, kudos is a huge thing. A

lot of the time, it is for kudos. It is more about that, showing off to

other people. Who were the kids that get into this? For me, when I first

got involved in hacking, it was purely because of an interest in

computers and how they work. You find that some of the best hackers

just want to see how things work, understand them. A lot of them come

from the gaming culture, games can be modified or hacked. Once you get

onto that track, it is a very quick succession into cyber-crime and

hacking. What proportion of kids who are really into computer games and

stuff, that really understand the technical aspect of computers, might

be tempted to go down that path? It is very difficult. When you are

involved in computer games, you want to find ways to make yourself better

at that, increase your score, everybody aims to be at the top of

their game. Once you have done that, you have modified games, you want to

look at other things to explore. Looking at remote access Trudy --

Trojans, they can view webcams, they can key log, all stuff that is

attractive to kids. If you go down the wrong path, it can have pretty

bad consequences as well. Is it lucrative? These are highly

technical skills to have. It can be lucrative, if it is done the right

way. We find that people are more interested in the kudos,

one-upmanship, than the financial gain. It is actually difficult to

earn money on things like credit card fraud. Until you get yourself

up to a really high technical ability, that is where you can

really start earning some serious money. That generally is not your

15-year-old kid. Where have you gone, in terms of what you do now? I

was arrested at the age of 18, six years ago now. I do some legitimate

security work now, and consultation around that. I am mostly focused on

assisting the next generation of ethical hackers, good hackers.

Describe what a good hacker does? I guess it is all about motivations. I

don't think breaking into a system, wanted to take it apart and

understand how it works, is necessarily a bad thing. There are

systems out there in place now, such as bug bounties. Companies say, we

recognise there are hackers out there, if you find vulnerabilities,

tell us about them. Vocabulary high, I saw one for $100,000? The other

day, somebody was paid ?7,500. Twitter have paid out $800,000 to

freelance hackers. You make an account, you say, I have found a

problem with your website, this is the damage it can cause and this is

how to fix it. You also get the kudos, you might get put into a

leaderboard, you get points and you are this level of hacker, then you

get a certain amount of points, you get put on to a programme where you

are a trusted hacker, and you might get to tinker with networks that are

not yet public. That is how it is going. When I was 15, there was no

term ethical Hacker, it was purely hacker, criminal. The fact we are

seeing these programmes, job titles and proper systems, that is a good

thing. Anybody that has a computer system is very vulnerable to a bad

attack. If they can unleash the talents of young kids to actually

help them, you can see why that is a good thing? There was an interesting

case, a hacker was told by a judge that if he used his powers for good,

he would be a real asset to a company. The penetration testing we

carry out, we attack companies in the same way as a hacker would,

carrying out a remote attack against a server, trying to extract goods.

We do that in the same way a nefarious hacker would. At the end

of it, we provide a report and don't run away with stuff.

His story has been shared 25 thousand times on Facebook.

We'll be talking to a man with testicular cancer used social

media to raise awareness of the disease.

But 13 Reasons Why has caused controversy over its portrayal

Now the writer gives his side of the story.

The French authorities say they know the identity of the man

who shot dead a policeman and seriously wounded two others

on the Champs-Elysees in central Paris last night.

Three people said to be close to the attacker

The gunman was killed when officers returned fire but prosecutors say

they won't release his name until they know whether or not

One of the leading presidential candidates, far right leader Marine

le Pen, has demanded that immediate reinstatement of border checks.

The French Prime Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said the attack

-- said this week and's election will be fully protected.

TRANSLATION: Ladies and gentlemen, the government is fully mobilised

that nothing will stop this fundamental democratic moment

On the eve of a major rendezvous, I call on everyone to show

the spirit of responsibility and dignity.

It is our duty to not give in to fear, intimidation,

Otherwise, this would only serve the gain

Also, we should never succumb to division,

excess obscurantism, and intolerance,

It is indeed unity more than ever that should prevail.

The former Aston Villa and England defender Ugo Ehiogu has

He suffered a cardiac arrest at Tottenham's

training centre on Thursday, where he worked as the coach

Ehiogu was capped four times for his country and won

the League Cup with both Aston Villa and Middlesbrough.

German prosecutors have confirmed they have arrested a 28-year-old man

suspected of bombing the Borussia Dortmund

Prosecutors say the man, who has German and Russian nationality,

was a market trader hoping to make money if the price of

British retailers have posted the biggest quarterly sales fall

in seven years during the first three months of this year.

It's being put down to rising prices since last year's Brexit

vote beginning to put pressure on consumers.

Prices have been rising across a range of sectors.

The average cyber-criminal investigated by the National Crime

Agency is just 17-years-old and is motivated by showing off

in front of friends, rather than money.

That's the conclusion of a new report by the NCA,

which has been looking at ways to stop youngsters getting

It says hacking tools have become too easy to use.

A ban on sugary drinks in hospitals in England is being proposed,

unless suppliers cut their sales over the next year.

NHS England says it must set a healthy example

to help combat obesity, diabetes and tooth decay,

but the soft drinks industry says it shouldn't be singled out.

That's a summary of the latest news, join me for BBC

See you then. Let's join Hugh for the sport.

There has been an outpouring of tributes to you go at would like a

father figure to us all, the words of words of one of his young protege

at Spurs. The former England defender died at

the age of 44 after a cardiac arrest yesterday. His former coach said,

thank you for everything you have taught us on and off the pitch.

He won the League Cup with Villa in 1996 and also with Middlesbrough

in 2004 and was capped four times by England.

Manchester United are into the Europa League

semi-finals, after beating Anderlecht.

It took until the second half of extra time to win it

- teenager Marcus Rashford got the decisive goal.

Tiger Woods has had yet another operation on his back

to try to cure the pain that's plagued his career over

It's his third surgery in 19 months and he's likely to be out

Ellie Downie is on the verge of becoming the first British

gymnast to win the all-around title at the European Championships.

The 17-year-old was top in qualifying for tonight's

She's also through to every individual aparatus final -

a first for any British gymnast at a major international

His story has been shared 25,000 times on Facebook.

We'll be talking to a man with testicular cancer used social

media to raise awareness of the disease.

Over the past few weeks on this programme, we've followed events

in the Chechen Republic where it's claimed

gay people are being targetted and tortured in prison camps.

We've heard from a human rights advisor to the government there,

we've spoken with a journalist who says she was forced

into hiding in fear of her life after making the revelations.

The Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov has

denied the allegations, despite strong testimony

from members of the LGBT community who claim they are being targeted

by the authorities and their own families.

The BBC's Sarah Rainsford has met one gay man who's

That was one man who says he was forced to leave Chechnya because of

his sexuality, talking to Sarah Raynsford. Let's get more on the

former Aston Villa and England footballer Ugo Ehiogu, who has died

at the age of 44. He suffered a cardiac arrest yesterday while

working as coach at Tottenham's training centre. We are joined by

Mark Bosnich, who played alongside Ugo Ehiogu in 1996. Thank you for

joining us, such terribly sad news. Yes, terribly sad news. I'm really

shocked, I got in late last night, obviously in Australia we are a

little bit ahead, and I saw the news on social media that he had

collapsed at the training ground but obviously was shocked at that, then

saw literally about one and a half hours ago I had a call from somebody

in the UK that he passed away. Words really cannot justify how sad I am,

it is a really big shock, especially after Graham Taylor, there has not

been much good news, my sincerest condolences go out to his daughter,

who we knew from way back in the 90s, and his family and close

friends. What was he like on the pitch? Ugo was a tremendous player.

Vastly underrated, in my opinion. I would call him a rock, really. I

always remember playing a friendly match against Belgrade in 1995 and

their players commented that they ran into Ugo and he was an absolute

rock. He did not play as many times as he perhaps should of but we had

great success, you mentioned the League Cup, he was part of the squat

in 94 and in 96 we had a tremendous side that won the League Cup and got

to the any final -- the semifinal of the FA Cup, he was an integral part

of that. As a man, I have brought him over here to Australia on a few

occasions, my parents are extremely sad as well, he was an even better

man. In terms of being fit, there were few fitter than Ugo, he was an

absolutely superb condition. You said he was an even better man than

a player on the pitch, tell us more about the person that you knew. He

was somebody was very, very strong but very, very kind, always knew the

difference between and wrong, Dwight Yorke and myself were very close, we

came out to Australia on end of season trips together. 99.9% of the

time he knew what was right and what was wrong. That old saying, only the

good die young, it could not be more true in this case. Thank you very

much, Mark Bosnich, for joining us with your memories of Ugo Ehiogu,

who has died at the age of 44. A new super-low mortgage deal has

been launched with what's thought to be one of the lowest

rates ever seen, than 1%. The two-year discounted rate

is available for those looking to buy or remortgage a home,

but they will need to have a hefty A recent survey by the Bank

of England found that lenders expect the availability of mortgages

to increase by June - which some claim has sparked

a 'home loans price war'. Tell us more about why we are seeing

an offer like this. There is lots of competition, partly

because although the housing market is OK, it is a similar amount of

purchases being made every month, about 100,000, at a time when

lenders are bringing more and more money to the table. They are all

biting chunks of the market off of each other by putting out lower and

lower deals, and at the same time you have some new players coming

into the market, not just building societies and banks. For instant,

there are banks just based on your mobile phone at the moment, and one

of those came out with some very low offers recently, 1.29% for five

years fixed, in a way even better than this one. It disappeared after

seven days so people who are thinking of moving have to be quite

fleet of foot to take advantage. I assumed everybody knows you as

well as I do so I did not say your name, Simon! Bac Duong, with the

five-year fix so you see what you were getting, but it disappeared

quickly, how easy is it to gauge what is coming along?

This one, which is 0.89%, well under 1%, it is a discounted variable

rate, so it could go up, even still having the discount, and that is

just for two years, so it is not going to be for everyone. As you

said, it has a 35% deposit. Typical house prices nowadays, that is

likely to be around ?70,000 or more, so a first-time buyer is going to

find that a bit out of reach. Like a lot of these deals, there are fees

attached, this one is nearly ?1500 just for getting the offer. That is

like 1%, 1.5% on your mortgage rate for the first year. After the two

years of the offer it reverts to a much higher rate of nearly 5%, so

people have to negotiate this is very complicated, tricky world quite

carefully to make sure they are not tripped up by an offer that is not

suitable for them. Where are we in terms of the

mortgage market, having seen tighter controls, more stringent controls

brought in to make sure that borrowers can afford to pay back

their mortgages and now it seems there are lenders out there really

trying to court business? It is definitely much harder to get

a mortgage because the regime now looks very closely at your household

bills to see whether you have a gym membership that will be too

expensive, for instance, or whether your energy bills are high, and

therefore can you afford the mortgage, so it is harder. That is

partly behind this competitive environment where lenders are trying

to find customers. But for people thinking of buying for the first

time, all moving, the big worry is what will happen to house prices,

you don't want to buy when they are about to drop, and what is going to

happen to interest rates. On house prices, the market has remained

quite robust. On interest rates, the Bank of England seems to be sticking

to its very low interest rate policy for the moment, so there doesn't

seem to be concerned in the next few months that interest rates will

rise. So for some people a longer term fixed rate might be more

suitable, locking into a lower rate for a longer time.

Thank you, Simon Gumpert. It's the hit drama on Netflix

and is executive produced by the most followed celebrity

on Instagram, Selena Gomez. Why didn't you say this

to me when I was alive? My husband and I,

we never got a note. Settle in, because I'm about to tell

you the story of my life. More specifically,

why my life ended. And if you're listening

to this tape... But the show's writer has been

defending it after criticism from charities who say

it is glamourising revenge suicide. Our entertainment reporter

Chi Chi Izundu has more on this. A lot of people probably will not

have heard about that before, but it is massive amongst a certain

demographic, isn't it? Without spoiling it for people that are big

fans and have not seen the whole thing, tell us more about it.

Massive amongst teenagers, but it is being watched by everybody. Netflix,

it is one of their biggest shows. It is helmed by Selena Gomez. She was

supposed to play the lead. This is about a teenage suicide, a young

girl called Hannah, who takes her own life. Then she leaves 13 tapes,

each season, depicting who and why they have hurt, the people she

blames for why she has taken her life have to pass the tapes on. It

has had a lot of criticism. People say it kind of glamorises suicide,

or taking your own life, and also it glamorises other things as well,

because they quite graphically show how Hannah took her own life. Some

charities are saying it is a how-to guide, some are saying that,

actually, it doesn't address depression as it should. Covers a

lot of issues, suicide, rape, abuse, self harm, drugs? Does indeed. The

UK charity, Papyrus, the national charity aimed at preventing

suicides, has issued a warning to young people saying that the danger

of this programme is that it romanticises and sensationalises

taking your own life. They don't want people to do that, and they

said if you feel, if you are vulnerable or not, that you need

help, to contact them. What has the writer been saying? He has written

an open letter, depicting how we felt it was actually going to help

people to show how painful it is to take your own life. He says, having

gone through that, in an attempt to take his own life at one point, he

wanted to show that it is not a painless thing, that revenge suicide

is not a final treatment to something. He hopes that it will

save lives. Talking about these things openly, that will bring teen

issues to the fore, he says, and then people can deal with them in

appropriate ways. If you are feeling emotionally distressed and would

like details of organisations which offer advice and support, go online

to... Or you can call for free to hear recorded information on...

Testicular cancer is one of the most common cancers in young men.

As long as it is diagnosed early it's highly treatable.

Our next guest was 38 when he was told he had

He wants to raise awareness of the importance of early

diagnosis, and so he's been writing a blog, which been shared

Andrew Lowden realised he had a lump on his testicles and tried to ignore

But once he finally decided to see his doctor things

Two days later the dad of two was told he had cancer -

and then in another week, in his words "the NHS

kicked into overdrive" and he had the tumour removed.

Now he wants other men to check themselves out.

Tell us more about what happened when you discovered a lump. Did you

immediately think cancer? How did you react? I reacted like a lot of

blokes do, I thought it is probably nothing. I am sure it is just my

imagination. I continued having a feel of the lump for the next six

weeks. I didn't really know what I was feeling for. I went on the

internet and thought, is this how I should be checking myself? After six

weeks, I was not sure. I went to the authority on most things in life, my

wife, and said, can you check? She said she didn't really know what she

was looking for either. We both agreed it was probably time to go to

my GP. How big was it? Was it obvious? A small ridge going all the

way around the testicle, which is not normal. Lovely men have two, so

we have want to compare two. The left was very different to the

right. Then most men would say, let's get a medical professional to

check us out. You said you didn't know what to look for. Women know

about checking their breasts, and there was a lot of advice on what to

look for. It is not the same for men? There are a lot of charities

around there about testicular cancer and what to check for. Was it on

your radar? Not at all, I thought it was not something I needed to worry

about, something I had not considered. Having had it and looked