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I'm Victoria Derbyshire, welcome to the programme. | :00:08. | :00:12. | |
Our top story today - a political earthquake in France. | :00:13. | :00:15. | |
The two major parties that have ruled the country for decades | :00:16. | :00:17. | |
have been swept aside - instead, voters will chose | :00:18. | :00:22. | |
between a relative political novice and an anti-immigration, | :00:23. | :00:24. | |
Full coverage of the presidential elections | :00:25. | :00:27. | |
TRANSLATION: I want to become the president of all the people of | :00:28. | :00:37. | |
France, the president of the Patriots, in the face of threats | :00:38. | :00:42. | |
from the Nationalists. TRANSLATION: The time has come to get rid of all | :00:43. | :00:45. | |
the arrogant people who wanted to dictate to the people what they | :00:46. | :00:48. | |
should do. I am the candidate the people. | :00:49. | :00:50. | |
Also this morning: caring for an elderly | :00:51. | :00:54. | |
relative 24 hours a day - we've been to meet those who give | :00:55. | :00:57. | |
up their lives to look after a family member. | :00:58. | :01:02. | |
Its chips the person of the personality that they really are. I | :01:03. | :01:09. | |
have lost my best friend -- it strips the person of their | :01:10. | :01:10. | |
personality. And as Ukip call for a ban | :01:11. | :01:11. | |
on full face veils - one woman who wears a niqab tells us | :01:12. | :01:14. | |
it will lead to a rise Throughout the programme, | :01:15. | :01:17. | |
the latest breaking news and developing stories - | :01:18. | :01:31. | |
and as always, really A little later, we'll be | :01:32. | :01:33. | |
talking about scoliosis. If you were watching Britain's Got | :01:34. | :01:45. | |
Talent on Saturday night, you will have seen Julie, the dancer in the | :01:46. | :01:50. | |
middle, talking about her curvature of the spine. That is what scoliosis | :01:51. | :01:54. | |
is. As a result of discussing that on prime-time telly on a Saturday | :01:55. | :01:58. | |
night, people are learning about it sometimes for the first time. | :01:59. | :01:59. | |
If you're affected by scolosis, do get in touch this morning - | :02:00. | :02:02. | |
If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. | :02:03. | :02:09. | |
Voters in France have chosen the two candidates who will go | :02:10. | :02:13. | |
through to the final round of the presidential | :02:14. | :02:14. | |
They are the independent centrist, Emmanuel Macron, and the leader | :02:15. | :02:18. | |
of the far-right National Front, Marine Le Pen. | :02:19. | :02:23. | |
It's the first time in six decades that neither of France's main | :02:24. | :02:26. | |
left-wing or right-wing parties has had a candidate in the run-off | :02:27. | :02:28. | |
to replace Francois Hollande as French leader. | :02:29. | :02:30. | |
Our Europe Correspondent, James Reynolds has more. | :02:31. | :02:34. | |
Emmanuel Macron is France's newcomer, and now the winner of this | :02:35. | :02:37. | |
He is an insider who's run as an outsider. | :02:38. | :02:46. | |
The 39-year-old is a pro-EU, pro-business centrist. | :02:47. | :02:49. | |
He resigned as a minister in order to form his own political movement. | :02:50. | :02:54. | |
TRANSLATION: I hope that in a fortnight, | :02:55. | :03:01. | |
His supporters believe that the rest of the country | :03:02. | :03:08. | |
This is Emmanuel Macron's first election. | :03:09. | :03:14. | |
The French people still hardly know him. | :03:15. | :03:17. | |
He is now the favourite to become this country's next president. | :03:18. | :03:29. | |
Marine Le Pen, the Front National leader, will fight Emmanuel Macron | :03:30. | :03:31. | |
She won more votes than the party has ever won before. | :03:32. | :03:35. | |
It matches her father Jean-Marie's achievement 15 years ago in reaching | :03:36. | :03:37. | |
TRANSLATION: The French people must take this historic opportunity, | :03:38. | :03:43. | |
because the biggest issue is the globalisation that's putting | :03:44. | :03:45. | |
In Bastille Square in Paris, some left-wing protesters faced | :03:46. | :03:55. | |
These demonstrators were angered by the results of this vote. | :03:56. | :04:04. | |
They, and the rest of the country, will have their final say | :04:05. | :04:07. | |
These two finalists are offering completely opposite visions of | :04:08. | :04:22. | |
France in the future? They are indeed. And what is interesting in | :04:23. | :04:28. | |
all of this is how the old left right divide in French politics has | :04:29. | :04:33. | |
vote. It is a process which is vote. It is a process which is | :04:34. | :04:36. | |
arguably happening in other countries as well, but here it is | :04:37. | :04:40. | |
very stark. The old parties, the Republicans on the right and the | :04:41. | :04:44. | |
socialists who have dominated politics for 60 years have been | :04:45. | :04:47. | |
completely clipped by this new divide which, as you say, is between | :04:48. | :04:53. | |
the global and the national. Marine Le Pen is clearly articulating the | :04:54. | :05:01. | |
view of the victims or those who have not benefited from | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
globalisation, the old white working class, who want more protection and | :05:06. | :05:09. | |
a return to national borders and are very much opposed to the globalised | :05:10. | :05:16. | |
Europe which has become the norm. And then Emmanuel Macron, who alone | :05:17. | :05:21. | |
of all the candidates yesterday has taken up the cudgels for Europe in | :05:22. | :05:24. | |
saying yes, it needs to be changed and reformed, but let's not throw | :05:25. | :05:29. | |
out the baby with the bath water. out the baby with the bath water. | :05:30. | :05:32. | |
Let's keep something that is precious to us and will be necessary | :05:33. | :05:38. | |
for future prosperity. So we do have a very divided country. Although | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
Emmanuel Macron has emerged as the surprise winner yesterday and must | :05:43. | :05:46. | |
be regarded as the favourite, if he does become president, he will have | :05:47. | :05:51. | |
to rule a country in which this dividing line between haves and | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
have-nots, or beneficiaries and sufferers from the system, will be | :05:56. | :05:57. | |
very stark indeed. Joanna is in the BBC | :05:58. | :05:59. | |
Newsroom, with a summary A man's been arrested in connection | :06:00. | :06:01. | |
with the murder of a former Royal Navy officer thought to have | :06:02. | :06:05. | |
been run over by his own car. It's thought Michael | :06:06. | :06:09. | |
Samwell - who was 35 - was killed when he confronted | :06:10. | :06:11. | |
thieves outside his home in Chorlton in the early | :06:12. | :06:14. | |
hours of Sunday morning. How did a disturbance at a house | :06:15. | :06:16. | |
in the early hours end Michael Samwell and his wife | :06:17. | :06:21. | |
were woken up by a loud noise, and the former Royal Naval Officer | :06:22. | :06:29. | |
went downstairs to have a look. The exact sequence of events that | :06:30. | :06:31. | |
followed is not clear, but outside, now cordoned off, | :06:32. | :06:34. | |
the 35-year-old was run over He was taken to hospital, | :06:35. | :06:36. | |
where he later died of his injuries. The vehicle was found | :06:37. | :06:44. | |
abandoned a few miles away. You hear a noise downstairs | :06:45. | :06:47. | |
and you go and see what it is. It's incredibly tragic | :06:48. | :06:54. | |
that he has lost his life. This is described as a quiet | :06:55. | :06:56. | |
corner of Manchester. And gathered in silence, | :06:57. | :07:00. | |
people came to pay their respects, I am a bit shaken up | :07:01. | :07:03. | |
because obviously, One theory is they did | :07:04. | :07:18. | |
break in simply to get If that is the case, it's led | :07:19. | :07:33. | |
to a far more serious enquiry. Four drivers have admitted falling | :07:34. | :07:38. | |
asleep while operating trams in Croydon, where seven people | :07:39. | :07:41. | |
were killed when a tram derailed A investigation for | :07:42. | :07:43. | |
the Victoria Derbyshire programme has also discovered | :07:44. | :07:46. | |
a failure with a safety device, known as "a dead man's handle", | :07:47. | :07:48. | |
that was not reported to the regulator, and three | :07:49. | :07:50. | |
incidents of speeding Tram Operations Ltd, | :07:51. | :07:53. | |
which runs the line, said driver fatigue was monitored | :07:54. | :07:55. | |
and controls were Jeremy Corbyn is promising to repeal | :07:56. | :07:58. | |
what he calls "vicious" trade union legislation brought | :07:59. | :08:05. | |
in by the Conservatives The Labour leader is | :08:06. | :08:06. | |
making his first campaign visit to Scotland today, | :08:07. | :08:14. | |
where his party is trying to claw back support after huge losses | :08:15. | :08:17. | |
in the election two years ago. Two men are due to appear in court | :08:18. | :08:20. | |
today, charged in connection with an acid attack at a nightclub | :08:21. | :08:23. | |
in east London on Easter Monday, which left two people | :08:24. | :08:26. | |
blind in one eye. Arthur Collins, who's | :08:27. | :08:29. | |
24 and the boyfriend of the reality TV star, | :08:30. | :08:30. | |
Ferne McCann, is facing 14 counts of wounding with intent and one | :08:31. | :08:34. | |
count of throwing corrosive fluid with intent to cause | :08:35. | :08:38. | |
grievous bodily harm. The Government will go | :08:39. | :08:43. | |
to the High Court to try to delay publishing its strategy | :08:44. | :08:46. | |
for tackling air pollution. Today was the deadline for ministers | :08:47. | :08:50. | |
to present their plans, but they claim voting rules mean | :08:51. | :08:53. | |
they can't publish sensitive policies before | :08:54. | :08:55. | |
the general election. Campaigners say they're trying | :08:56. | :08:56. | |
to dodge a difficult issue. Tougher punishments for the most | :08:57. | :09:12. | |
serious cases of speeding have come into force in England | :09:13. | :09:14. | |
and Wales today. Drivers can now be fined one | :09:15. | :09:16. | |
and a half times their weekly that means driving over 50 miles | :09:17. | :09:19. | |
an hour in a 30 zone or And a 12-year-old who was trying | :09:20. | :09:23. | |
to drive across the entire breadth of Australia has been picked | :09:24. | :09:28. | |
up by police. The boy was pulled over | :09:29. | :09:30. | |
already 800 miles into his journey in Broken Hill | :09:31. | :09:32. | |
in the New South Wales outback on Saturday after a patrol noticed | :09:33. | :09:35. | |
the car's bumper dragging Police believe he'd planned to keep | :09:36. | :09:37. | |
going all the way to Perth, That's a summary of the latest BBC | :09:38. | :09:42. | |
News - more at 9.30. Thank you for your comments about | :09:43. | :10:04. | |
being carers. Brian says, I gave up my business to care for my mum, who | :10:05. | :10:08. | |
has Alzheimer's. I didn't want to go into a care home. Jamie says as a | :10:09. | :10:12. | |
carer, you learn to shut yourself down and work 24 hours a day. Chris | :10:13. | :10:17. | |
says I was an unpaid care for my dad until he died two years ago. Unpaid | :10:18. | :10:22. | |
carers have been saving the care system 's fortunes for years. The | :10:23. | :10:27. | |
saving from my family must be in six figures. And Leanne says your report | :10:28. | :10:34. | |
looks heartbreaking. Well done, soon. That is the woman we feature | :10:35. | :10:39. | |
in our film in the next few minutes. You are doing well and it is OK to | :10:40. | :10:43. | |
feel like running. If you are a carer for a relative, get in touch | :10:44. | :10:44. | |
and tell us what it is like. Use the hashtag Victoria LIVE | :10:45. | :10:49. | |
and if you text, you will be charged It is going to be Arsenal against | :10:50. | :11:00. | |
Chelsea in the FA Cup final. Has the pressure eased on Arsene Wenger? | :11:01. | :11:04. | |
Probably not. Arsenal fans are celebrating, but many are divided on | :11:05. | :11:08. | |
whether they want Arsene Wenger to carry on as manager. He is out of | :11:09. | :11:12. | |
contract in the summer, but the big win for him in Wembley. Sergio | :11:13. | :11:18. | |
Aguero gave City the lead at Wembley before Nacho Monreal equalised for | :11:19. | :11:23. | |
Arsenal, drilling at the far post from Oxlade-Chamberlain's cross, and | :11:24. | :11:28. | |
then it went into extra time. 1-1 after 90 minutes. This was Alexi | :11:29. | :11:32. | |
scrambling in a winner to book Arsenal and FA Cup final day with | :11:33. | :11:37. | |
Chelsea. Hugely significant for both managers. Arsene Wenger, it is not | :11:38. | :11:41. | |
often we have seen him smile this season. Seventh in the Premier | :11:42. | :11:44. | |
League, with so much speculated about his future, but he is on to | :11:45. | :11:49. | |
win the FA Cup for the seventh time. Not so good for this man, Pep | :11:50. | :11:53. | |
Guardiola. He will end this season without a trophy, the first time in | :11:54. | :11:56. | |
his coaching career that he has done that. We expected special things. | :11:57. | :12:03. | |
The former Barca and Bayern Munich boss, no trophy for him and they | :12:04. | :12:05. | |
have the Manchester derby on Thursday as well. Barcelona's Lionel | :12:06. | :12:13. | |
Messi cannot stop scoring. What a game last night. It was a | :12:14. | :12:17. | |
sensational game. He is a freak of nature, no other way to describe | :12:18. | :12:21. | |
Lionel Messi. Let's look at the goals from last night. Barcelona | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
were trailing 1-0 at the Bernabeu, on enemy territory. This was him | :12:27. | :12:32. | |
levelling up to make it 1-1. It then went to 2-2 with Sergio Ramos sent | :12:33. | :12:36. | |
off for the home side. Cue an incredible last 15 minutes. That was | :12:37. | :12:40. | |
Lionel Messi, sticking away his 500th goal! He's still only 29. A | :12:41. | :12:49. | |
casual 47 goals for this season and more importantly for Barcelona, they | :12:50. | :12:52. | |
leapfrog Real Madrid at the top of the La Liga title race, which blows | :12:53. | :12:57. | |
it wide open. And from the London Marathon yesterday, so many amazing | :12:58. | :13:02. | |
stories, but it was quite a day for the Swansea Harriers running club. | :13:03. | :13:07. | |
It was. Look at these pictures. 5 million of you watched this. This is | :13:08. | :13:16. | |
David Wyatt. You may have seen his brother present the sport on this | :13:17. | :13:19. | |
programme. He was struggling to reach the finishing line. His hero | :13:20. | :13:22. | |
on the left, Matthew Rees, came to help him. Dave was on for a two-hour | :13:23. | :13:29. | |
38 finish, and a starting time. He still managed it in under three | :13:30. | :13:34. | |
hours. I have played football with Dave before and seen him doing | :13:35. | :13:38. | |
better than that. I texted him last time. He said he has had a big | :13:39. | :13:41. | |
burger and is feeling much better. He was on BBC Breakfast this morning | :13:42. | :13:45. | |
and is holding his own press conference, very presidential! But | :13:46. | :13:50. | |
it is great for Swansea Harriers. Another great story from yesterday | :13:51. | :13:55. | |
singer that this is Josh Griffiths, 23 years old. Two hours and 14 | :13:56. | :14:01. | |
minutes and 54 seconds. He is going to qualify for the World | :14:02. | :14:04. | |
Championships. We will hopefully hear from him at ten o'clock. I have | :14:05. | :14:08. | |
texted him to see if he will come and have a chat. I don't know how | :14:09. | :14:15. | |
anybody wants a marathon! Amazing if anyone -- for anyone who got to the | :14:16. | :14:18. | |
end. As the country faces a care crisis, | :14:19. | :14:21. | |
several charities have told this programme they want social care | :14:22. | :14:24. | |
to be a top priority Alzheimer's Society, | :14:25. | :14:26. | |
Independent Age and UK Homecare Association are calling | :14:27. | :14:28. | |
for political parties to feature the issue high up | :14:29. | :14:30. | |
on their manifestos, with better funding a key | :14:31. | :14:33. | |
area they want the next The Government says it's investing | :14:34. | :14:36. | |
an extra ?2 billion in social care, This morning, we're going | :14:37. | :14:41. | |
to bring you an insight Sue Jenkins says she's basically | :14:42. | :14:49. | |
given up her life to care for her mother Patricia, | :14:50. | :14:52. | |
who is 88 and needs She has dementia, is doubly | :14:53. | :14:54. | |
incontinent and uses a wheelchair. Our reporter James Longman | :14:55. | :15:00. | |
has been to meet her. What's it like to spend | :15:01. | :15:03. | |
your life looking after To sometimes not sleep, not eat, | :15:04. | :15:12. | |
not really have much We spent 24 hours with 88-year-old | :15:13. | :15:16. | |
Patricia Jenkins and her daughter She had funding to keep her mum | :15:17. | :15:41. | |
at home stopped twice by the authorities, | :15:42. | :15:45. | |
but she is battling on. It's 8am and Sue is getting | :15:46. | :15:50. | |
Patricia ready for the day. Patricia suffers from Alzheimer's | :15:51. | :15:52. | |
and is also disabled. She is doubly incontinent | :15:53. | :15:59. | |
and wheelchair bound. Whilst Sue does have carers | :16:00. | :16:00. | |
to assist her at different times, her life is wholly dedicated | :16:01. | :16:05. | |
to looking after her mother. She has a lot of challenging | :16:06. | :16:07. | |
behaviour, screaming, hitting out... That's part of that illness and it | :16:08. | :16:19. | |
strips the person of the personality What is it like for you, | :16:20. | :16:30. | |
for your mum to hit you, The stress on you must | :16:31. | :16:38. | |
be pretty intense. Yes, it's heartbreaking and it can | :16:39. | :16:47. | |
make you feel useless. As she is saying that | :16:48. | :16:49. | |
you are and it can make you quantity As she is saying that | :16:50. | :16:56. | |
you are and it can make you want to run for the hills | :16:57. | :16:59. | |
and just run into the night and there have been | :17:00. | :17:02. | |
many occasions where I just wanted to run off thinking | :17:03. | :17:04. | |
I was a useless carer. Patricia can't spend more | :17:05. | :17:06. | |
than a couple of hours away from her daughter before | :17:07. | :17:09. | |
she becomes too distressed. People watching might just sort | :17:10. | :17:11. | |
of think, you've given up your life. Very outward going person, | :17:12. | :17:15. | |
but I take care of my I feel like I'm | :17:16. | :17:28. | |
constantly dropping you. OK. | :17:29. | :17:42. | |
All right mummy. Sue has one or two carers | :17:43. | :17:49. | |
at various times in the week, But even so, her mother | :17:50. | :17:58. | |
constantly calls for her. It's clear that Sue | :17:59. | :18:01. | |
is finding the going tough. It's horrible to see her | :18:02. | :18:12. | |
so distressed like that. She doesn't want to come | :18:13. | :18:16. | |
back in half the time. You've got a carer here, | :18:17. | :18:22. | |
but it is up and down, People watching this might sort | :18:23. | :18:25. | |
of say is it not time And the Government want to encourage | :18:26. | :18:31. | |
people to stay in their own homes and nurse people in their own homes | :18:32. | :18:40. | |
and say there is support out there for carers | :18:41. | :18:43. | |
that there is, but there isn't. It's the most isolating situation | :18:44. | :18:46. | |
anyone could find themselves in. And your mother I suppose is the one | :18:47. | :18:48. | |
person you should be able Somewhere inside, but you know, | :18:49. | :18:52. | |
the person I dearly love and dearly want to talk to about so many things | :18:53. | :19:21. | |
has left me already and the thought of losing her fills me with complete | :19:22. | :19:24. | |
dread because my life Do you want to go? | :19:25. | :19:27. | |
She is shouting for you again. Sweetheart, can you just give us | :19:28. | :19:59. | |
a little bit of quiet for a minute? All right, we'll get | :20:00. | :20:12. | |
you changedment all right. We gave Sue a camera to show us | :20:13. | :20:17. | |
what it's like overnight. She has been highly | :20:18. | :20:25. | |
agitated all evening and to the point where we had to go | :20:26. | :20:26. | |
for a walk around midnight. The nights are when things | :20:27. | :20:34. | |
can get really bad. Her skin needs to be | :20:35. | :20:41. | |
prepared for the cold air. We tried to speak to Patricia, | :20:42. | :20:46. | |
but she becomes very agitated with people she doesn't know | :20:47. | :20:49. | |
and that wasn't possible. OK, we're getting you out, | :20:50. | :20:51. | |
don't worry about it. Sue sometimes goes | :20:52. | :20:53. | |
without sleep altogether. Tonight pains in her abdomen have | :20:54. | :20:55. | |
kept Patricia awake. So we get on and hoist | :20:56. | :20:57. | |
her into bed now. We've managed to | :20:58. | :21:28. | |
settle mummy in bed. But she's still a | :21:29. | :21:41. | |
little bit restless. I've been on the go now all day | :21:42. | :21:43. | |
with a pretty bad day. Mother in quite a state and anyway, | :21:44. | :21:55. | |
I'm going to go and get another hot-water bottle and see if I can | :21:56. | :22:01. | |
get some sleep before It's early morning and | :22:02. | :22:04. | |
the routine starts again. We tried to change her because she | :22:05. | :22:25. | |
was incontinent which she has been through the night, | :22:26. | :22:38. | |
but we couldn't roll her and turn her at all, | :22:39. | :22:40. | |
she was quite aggressive So we couldn't actually | :22:41. | :22:43. | |
move her physically. She was resisting and then | :22:44. | :22:47. | |
grabbing hold of us both and so unfortunately | :22:48. | :22:53. | |
because of that, because she has been to the toilet it then spread | :22:54. | :22:56. | |
and we've really been trying to clean her up and it | :22:57. | :22:59. | |
has been a big clean up Being here, you really get a sense | :23:00. | :23:02. | |
of what being a carer is like and I mean just on a couple | :23:03. | :23:13. | |
hours sleep, Sue is up every morning looking after her mother, yes, | :23:14. | :23:17. | |
she has carers here, but she almost has to manage them | :23:18. | :23:19. | |
as well and this is her whole life. I mean, just looking | :23:20. | :23:23. | |
after her mum and it has been It costs over ?2,500 a week | :23:24. | :23:25. | |
to keep Patricia at home. But Sue says they have twice tried | :23:26. | :23:37. | |
to stop that funding in order to force her to put Patricia | :23:38. | :23:45. | |
in a home. She says she feels constantly | :23:46. | :23:47. | |
hounded by authorities and has been taken to court over payments | :23:48. | :23:49. | |
she says she isn't liable for. The hours that have been stolen | :23:50. | :23:54. | |
from me over this court case where I have had to e-mail | :23:55. | :24:02. | |
after e-mail after e-mail and chase and phone, | :24:03. | :24:04. | |
it has taken hours away, hours that belong | :24:05. | :24:07. | |
to my mother and I. Six years ago, Sue's husband | :24:08. | :24:12. | |
left her when she decided to look I have good friends, | :24:13. | :24:15. | |
but the friends that don't understand go by the wayside | :24:16. | :24:26. | |
and you find that having any kind of relationship in my situation | :24:27. | :24:34. | |
is very difficult too and that can It would take a very understanding | :24:35. | :24:37. | |
man to understand my situation. Every so often Sue takes | :24:38. | :24:43. | |
her mother on days out. They can't go too far, | :24:44. | :24:51. | |
but today it's a trip to the sea. That's for us to drink because we | :24:52. | :24:54. | |
haven't had any lunch yet. Do you want me to see | :24:55. | :24:57. | |
if I can put some music on? There are those beautiful tender | :24:58. | :25:03. | |
moments, the occasional little I think people watching this | :25:04. | :25:15. | |
and seeing what you go through will ask themselves well, | :25:16. | :25:36. | |
when does this stop, what happens when it is too much, | :25:37. | :25:41. | |
when you can't see any enjoyment anymore, when maybe you can't | :25:42. | :25:44. | |
look after her anymore? Do you even talk | :25:45. | :25:46. | |
about that with her? I don't talk about it with her. It | :25:47. | :25:59. | |
is unimaginable that I would never look after. I get the sense of a | :26:00. | :26:04. | |
carer that's related to the person they're caring for, you might be | :26:05. | :26:08. | |
better equipped to look after them, but then are you really ready to let | :26:09. | :26:15. | |
go? No, not really if I'm honest. I don't even want to think about it. | :26:16. | :26:23. | |
You can see the bond between Sue and her mother and you can see those | :26:24. | :26:27. | |
glimpses of the woman Patricia clearly was of the there is a lot of | :26:28. | :26:33. | |
love there, but this whole situation had a big emotional impact | :26:34. | :26:36. | |
particularly on Sue and you know this is just a woman who really | :26:37. | :26:40. | |
needs help. Over six million people in the UK | :26:41. | :26:45. | |
volunteer to care for sick or elderly relatives. Those numbers are | :26:46. | :26:47. | |
going up and so are the pressures. It's so moving. It is something that | :26:48. | :27:05. | |
affects so many of you judging by the number of comments we're | :27:06. | :27:07. | |
receiving. Let's have a look. Karen, "It is | :27:08. | :27:13. | |
incredibly hard to be a carer. My mum needs everything doing for her. | :27:14. | :27:17. | |
I share the caring with my brother, mainly over the whole weekendful she | :27:18. | :27:21. | |
does have carers popping in, but not every day and the carers don't have | :27:22. | :27:26. | |
enough time to do what's necessary. So I find myself cleaning up after | :27:27. | :27:31. | |
them. Carers themselves are not looked after enough, not paid enough | :27:32. | :27:35. | |
and have little respect in their own job." This texter says, "I am a | :27:36. | :27:39. | |
carer for my son who has special needs as well as other issues. It is | :27:40. | :27:44. | |
hard work and demanding. You never get time to yourself and when you | :27:45. | :27:49. | |
do, you're mentally drained." That teen says, "I am a full-time carer | :27:50. | :27:54. | |
for my mum. She won't let anyone look after her even for a day." | :27:55. | :28:02. | |
Elaine, "I am puzzled, looking after relatives. The unpaid word suggests | :28:03. | :28:07. | |
it a state responsibility. Surely it is a family responsibility." Thank | :28:08. | :28:09. | |
you for those. Keep them coming in. And after 10:30am, we'll be hearing | :28:10. | :28:15. | |
from people around the UK who care If you do - get in touch and give us | :28:16. | :28:18. | |
an insight into your day. Ukip says it would ban full veils | :28:19. | :28:23. | |
worn by some Muslim women 15-year-old Julia Carlile raised | :28:24. | :28:28. | |
awareness of scoliosis when she danced her way | :28:29. | :28:44. | |
through to the semi-finals But the surgery available | :28:45. | :28:47. | |
in the UK to correct it An e-mail from Bethany on this to | :28:48. | :29:02. | |
say, "Peu was dig knowed with this at eight years old. My curvature was | :29:03. | :29:09. | |
severe and I had my spinal fusion operation aged ten. My parents | :29:10. | :29:12. | |
didn't think I would walk againment however, I was determined to exceed | :29:13. | :29:17. | |
expectations. I got all As and A stars at dance and drama at school | :29:18. | :29:22. | |
and I have gone on to study per fortunatelying arts and have become | :29:23. | :29:29. | |
a professional performer and dancer and choreographer." Thank you, | :29:30. | :29:30. | |
Bethany. Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom, | :29:31. | :29:33. | |
with a summary of today's news. A former banker will take | :29:34. | :29:38. | |
on the anti-immigration far right leader Marine Le Pen in the second | :29:39. | :29:40. | |
round of the French Emmanuel Macron came first | :29:41. | :29:43. | |
in the vote yesterday. He's seen as a political newcomer | :29:44. | :29:49. | |
and ran as an independent. It's the first time in six decades | :29:50. | :29:53. | |
the mainstream parties have not had a candidate in the run-off to become | :29:54. | :29:56. | |
French president. A man has been arrested | :29:57. | :30:00. | |
in connection with the murder of a former | :30:01. | :30:02. | |
Royal Navy officer thought to have It's thought Mike Samwell - | :30:03. | :30:05. | |
who was 35 - was killed when he confronted | :30:06. | :30:09. | |
thieves outside his home in the Chorlton area of Manchester | :30:10. | :30:11. | |
in the early hours Mr Samwell was asleep with his wife | :30:12. | :30:13. | |
Jessica when the intruders struck. Four drivers have admitted falling | :30:14. | :30:17. | |
asleep while operating trams in Croydon, where seven people | :30:18. | :30:19. | |
were killed when a tram derailed A investigation for | :30:20. | :30:22. | |
the Victoria Derbyshire programme has also discovered | :30:23. | :30:28. | |
a failure with a safety device, known as "a dead man's handle", | :30:29. | :30:31. | |
that was not reported to the regulator, and three | :30:32. | :30:33. | |
incidents of speeding Tram Operations Ltd, | :30:34. | :30:35. | |
which runs the line, said driver fatigue was monitored | :30:36. | :30:41. | |
and controls were We'll bring you more on that | :30:42. | :30:43. | |
investigation after 10 o'clock. Jeremy Corbyn is promising to repeal | :30:44. | :30:48. | |
what he calls "vicious" trade union legislation, | :30:49. | :30:52. | |
brought in by the Conservatives, The Labour leader will make | :30:53. | :30:55. | |
the pledge today to trade union members in Scotland, | :30:56. | :30:59. | |
where his party's trying to claw back support after huge losses | :31:00. | :31:02. | |
in the election two years ago. Two men are due to appear in court | :31:03. | :31:05. | |
today, charged in connection with an acid attack at a nightclub | :31:06. | :31:09. | |
in east London on Easter Monday, which left two people | :31:10. | :31:12. | |
blind in one eye. Arthur Collins, who's | :31:13. | :31:14. | |
24 and the boyfriend of the reality TV star, | :31:15. | :31:18. | |
Ferne McCann, is facing 14 counts of wounding with intent and one | :31:19. | :31:21. | |
count of throwing corrosive fluid with intent to cause | :31:22. | :31:24. | |
grievous bodily harm. That's a summary of the latest BBC | :31:25. | :31:30. | |
News - more at 10.00. Time for the latest sport now. | :31:31. | :31:40. | |
Arsenal's Aaron Ramsey said the team want to win the FA Cup for Arsenal | :31:41. | :31:44. | |
Wenger. It will be an all London final between Arsenal and Chelsea | :31:45. | :31:48. | |
next month. They came from behind to take the tie into extra time before | :31:49. | :31:52. | |
Alexis Sanchez scrambled in that winner. It finished 2-1. Bigelow | :31:53. | :31:59. | |
Kante has won the professional footballers Association Player of | :32:00. | :32:03. | |
the Year award. Tottenham's Dele Alli won the Young player prize for | :32:04. | :32:08. | |
the second successive year. 500 goals now for Lionel Messi in a | :32:09. | :32:12. | |
Barcelona shirt. His side blue La Liga post by title race open with a | :32:13. | :32:18. | |
dramatic victory at Real Madrid, Messi with a stoppage time winner. | :32:19. | :32:22. | |
And they club runner with Swansea Harriers stunned Britain's elite men | :32:23. | :32:26. | |
at the London Marathon to qualify for the 2017 World Championships in | :32:27. | :32:31. | |
London. Josh Griffiths, who is 23, finished in two hours, 14 minutes | :32:32. | :32:35. | |
and 49 seconds on his marathon debut. Victoria Warner speak to him | :32:36. | :32:41. | |
just after ten. -- Victoria Warner speak to him. | :32:42. | :32:42. | |
Ukip says its election manifesto will include a pledge to ban | :32:43. | :32:45. | |
the full face veils worn by some Muslim women. | :32:46. | :32:47. | |
The party leader, Paul Nuttall, suggested people | :32:48. | :32:52. | |
who continued to wear a niqab or a burqa would be fined. | :32:53. | :32:55. | |
A niqab, on the left, allows the eyes to be seen. | :32:56. | :32:59. | |
So does this policy amount to an attack on Muslims? | :33:00. | :33:05. | |
Let's bring together Sahar Al Faifi, who's worn | :33:06. | :33:08. | |
She is a geneticist and assistant Secretary General of the Muslim | :33:09. | :33:12. | |
Council of Wales and also with us, Liz Jones, who's on Ukip's National | :33:13. | :33:15. | |
Liz Jones, tell Sahar why you would ban what she is wearing right now. | :33:16. | :33:29. | |
Two reasons. Firstly, the issue of security. I'm sure you are aware | :33:30. | :33:36. | |
that on the 21st of May 2005, one of the London bombers endeavoured to | :33:37. | :33:44. | |
escape by wearing the full niqab. So we have a security issue. I am sure | :33:45. | :33:47. | |
you are also aware that there was a recent robbery at Selfridges store | :33:48. | :33:51. | |
in London, where all the robbers wore the niqab. I am also sure you | :33:52. | :33:55. | |
are aware that there were big issues in student campuses and the | :33:56. | :34:03. | |
dormitories in Cairo, Jordan and Afghanistan with terrorists entering | :34:04. | :34:05. | |
those buildings wearing the niqab. So we have a security issue. On that | :34:06. | :34:12. | |
point, would you ban motorcycle helmets and balaclavas, because we | :34:13. | :34:15. | |
have had robberies with people wearing those? Using the same logic? | :34:16. | :34:26. | |
No, because it is about the sharing of public space. You cannot enter | :34:27. | :34:32. | |
certain public areas. But you can commit a robbery wearing a | :34:33. | :34:37. | |
motorcycle helmet or balaclava. But you are not saying the ban | :34:38. | :34:43. | |
motorcycle helmets? No, because there is another element. The second | :34:44. | :34:49. | |
element is the issue of integration. We have to accept that the move of | :34:50. | :34:55. | |
the 21st century is towards inclusiveness and cohesion within | :34:56. | :35:02. | |
the public space. So many people would consider that a woman being | :35:03. | :35:07. | |
covered would show that she is separated, whether willingly or | :35:08. | :35:12. | |
unwillingly, from society. In fact, I am sure you are aware that in | :35:13. | :35:18. | |
2006, Jack Straw, the Labour MP, spoke vociferously against the face | :35:19. | :35:21. | |
veil and he was supported by Gordon Brown and Tony Blair. In January | :35:22. | :35:28. | |
2016, David Cameron reiterated that and said public authorities should | :35:29. | :35:31. | |
have the right to set down reasonable rules with regard to the | :35:32. | :35:35. | |
wearing of the face veil. Lets let Sahar respond now. Thank you. First | :35:36. | :35:41. | |
of all, I have to explain why I am wearing the face veil. Firstly, it | :35:42. | :35:46. | |
is an act of worship. I am a human being on a spiritual journey, trying | :35:47. | :35:49. | |
to connect with God. That is why I wear it. The narrative that the face | :35:50. | :35:58. | |
veil somehow undermine security is a false narrative. Muslim women who | :35:59. | :36:07. | |
choose to wear it are a minority within a minority. And this minority | :36:08. | :36:12. | |
are more than happy to reveal their identity with an ID card whenever | :36:13. | :36:18. | |
needed. So security is a false narrative. With the rise of | :36:19. | :36:24. | |
Islamophobia and the hostile environment around Muslims, there | :36:25. | :36:29. | |
are politicians making irresponsible comments across the political | :36:30. | :36:36. | |
spectrum, not only Ukip. It now sits the context that we live to demonise | :36:37. | :36:41. | |
and scapegoat minorities. And the easiest target for that is the | :36:42. | :36:47. | |
Muslim woman. If we are talking about empowering Muslim women and | :36:48. | :36:49. | |
enhancing their integration, surely you should support their right to | :36:50. | :36:54. | |
express their faith in the way they want. Theresa May said on hijab day | :36:55. | :37:01. | |
in February, what a woman wears is her choice. So when we have people | :37:02. | :37:10. | |
telling us it is actually a security issue and undermines integration, we | :37:11. | :37:18. | |
have to talk to the women who choose to wear it. I am a geneticist. I | :37:19. | :37:23. | |
participate in public life. I campaign for social justice. But | :37:24. | :37:28. | |
when you have the far right like Ukip trying to distract the public | :37:29. | :37:32. | |
from the more important issues like housing, unemployment and creating | :37:33. | :37:40. | |
jobs for youth using this piece of fabric that I'd choose to wear as | :37:41. | :37:43. | |
part of my faith, part of my identity. I have to say, it is not a | :37:44. | :37:55. | |
far issue. As I said, in 2006, Jack Straw... He apologised for it. He | :37:56. | :38:02. | |
apologised publicly. But he did have the support of Gordon Brown and Tony | :38:03. | :38:18. | |
Blair. But he said it was a mistake. Please don't talk at once. | :38:19. | :38:21. | |
I will give each of you the right time. It is not an issue with regard | :38:22. | :38:36. | |
to religion per se because in 2017, the grand mosque in Mecca bandit. It | :38:37. | :38:43. | |
is not common to wear it in Iran, Turkey, Bangladesh, Pakistan. | :38:44. | :38:50. | |
Britain is a multicultural society. Of course, that is why in the | :38:51. | :38:55. | |
private sphere, you are free to wear whatever you want. However, because | :38:56. | :39:01. | |
we are a multicultural nation now, the public sphere has to have | :39:02. | :39:07. | |
communality so that all segments of society can feel that they belong. | :39:08. | :39:18. | |
Does communality mean everyone has the look the same? This is a | :39:19. | :39:23. | |
simulation, not integration. Everyone has the right to express | :39:24. | :39:29. | |
their faith, their sexual orientation, their belief, their | :39:30. | :39:31. | |
views, as long as they don't harm anyone. This is how we live today in | :39:32. | :39:38. | |
a multicultural British society. I am not going to accept to be | :39:39. | :39:43. | |
assimilated into the larger society for the sake of value to my identity | :39:44. | :39:52. | |
or my faith. If we are talking about integration, we should create an | :39:53. | :39:56. | |
equal space for everyone to express whatever they want. Liz Jones, your | :39:57. | :40:03. | |
leader Paul Nuttall said yes, wear it in the privacy of your own home, | :40:04. | :40:06. | |
but when you are out and about, you would be fine. How would that work? | :40:07. | :40:13. | |
That would be a matter for the police to organise. I understand | :40:14. | :40:16. | |
they have organised in France, where it has been illegal since 2011 to | :40:17. | :40:21. | |
wear the burqa. I don't know how the police would manage that. That would | :40:22. | :40:26. | |
be a matter for them. Anti-Muslim sentiment has led to an increase in | :40:27. | :40:30. | |
physical, verbal and online attacks previously in Britain. Do you think | :40:31. | :40:36. | |
the same will happen this time? Not at all. There are many Muslims in | :40:37. | :40:42. | |
this country who would support a burqa ban. We have had well-known | :40:43. | :40:46. | |
Muslims speaking out. Salman Rushdie has spoken out against it. But would | :40:47. | :40:52. | |
it lead to an increase in attacks? By banning it? If the face veil was | :40:53. | :41:01. | |
made a criminal offence, or a low-level offence... What do you | :41:02. | :41:06. | |
mean? It would be a par with anti-social behaviour, a previous | :41:07. | :41:13. | |
Labour initiative. If it were at that level, I don't see why it would | :41:14. | :41:17. | |
result in more attacks, because people would presumably be obeying | :41:18. | :41:22. | |
the law in which case the faces would be uncovered. How about I | :41:23. | :41:27. | |
speak to you from my experience? After Brexit, there was a sharp | :41:28. | :41:30. | |
increase in Islamophobic attacks. I am facing so many Islamophobic | :41:31. | :41:36. | |
attacks that it has become part of my life because of your | :41:37. | :41:40. | |
irresponsible comments against Muslims, alienating them all the | :41:41. | :41:45. | |
time for the sake of getting votes. I will give you an example. I did an | :41:46. | :41:49. | |
interview with the BBC in response to the proposed anti-extremism laws | :41:50. | :41:55. | |
by David Cameron and someone passed by, looked fearlessly at the camera | :41:56. | :42:00. | |
and swore at me, you are an F word bummer, because you and the likes of | :42:01. | :42:08. | |
you said that I and -- is a Muslim unthreatening society. When people | :42:09. | :42:11. | |
see politicians like you speaking in the media like this, someone in the | :42:12. | :42:17. | |
street had the guts to look at the camera and said, you're an F word | :42:18. | :42:24. | |
bomber. If you are supporting community cohesion, we must reject | :42:25. | :42:28. | |
hate and bigotry. This is what happens in front of camera. You can | :42:29. | :42:31. | |
imagine what happens behind it. Someone like me, who is highly | :42:32. | :42:36. | |
educated, working tirelessly to treat cancer patients, is being | :42:37. | :42:38. | |
abused in the street. Is that acceptable? Is it acceptable to | :42:39. | :42:50. | |
discriminate against anyone? It is not acceptable. It is a criminal | :42:51. | :42:55. | |
offence. Did you report it to the police? Of course. What resulted you | :42:56. | :43:02. | |
get? The result that they could prosecute him. There is a gap in the | :43:03. | :43:07. | |
UK law. Muslims are not protected equally as the black and Jewish | :43:08. | :43:10. | |
community. But that is another discussion. I am saying to you that | :43:11. | :43:18. | |
irresponsible comments by you contribute to demonising Muslims. | :43:19. | :43:25. | |
You are a woman and I am a woman was that we should support each other. | :43:26. | :43:32. | |
If a woman wants to wear a miniskirt, let her wear it. If a | :43:33. | :43:35. | |
woman wants to wear a face veil, let her wear it. An Egyptian feminist | :43:36. | :43:40. | |
took the brave step of going into Tahrir Square, and she removed her | :43:41. | :43:47. | |
face veil in public. That was the launch in Egypt of women's rights. I | :43:48. | :43:54. | |
am going to post you there. Thank you, both. These are comments from | :43:55. | :44:01. | |
people watching around the country. Rebekah tweets that the Ukip debate | :44:02. | :44:05. | |
is embarrassing. It is a blatantly racist attack, no matter how they | :44:06. | :44:09. | |
dress it up. This Ukip representative should be ashamed. | :44:10. | :44:17. | |
Alexander says, hardly any crimes occur because someone wore a veil. | :44:18. | :44:20. | |
Terry says I'm sure there would be better integration if Ukip stopped | :44:21. | :44:23. | |
trying to force everyone to be like them. Rob - ask the Ukip woman if | :44:24. | :44:29. | |
face coverings include EDL thugs in balaclavas. Well, it depends where | :44:30. | :44:37. | |
they are wearing balaclavas. Obviously, there would be allowed | :44:38. | :44:42. | |
into a bank or department store. But on the street is fine? It is about | :44:43. | :44:48. | |
being in the public domain. If people find that threatening, it is | :44:49. | :44:54. | |
an issue. So you are not suggesting banning balaclavas in the street? I | :44:55. | :44:59. | |
would not suggest putting balaclavas in the manifesto because it is a | :45:00. | :45:03. | |
double situation. We have the security situation, and if that said | :45:04. | :45:07. | |
one life, it would be worth doing. The other situation is the | :45:08. | :45:11. | |
integration situation. Do you think it makes it easy for people to | :45:12. | :45:16. | |
integrate with EDL thugs wearing balaclavas? Well, how many of those | :45:17. | :45:21. | |
are there? I have not seen one on my way to this studio today. I have | :45:22. | :45:29. | |
never seen one in my life, have you? Speaking again in about integration, | :45:30. | :45:31. | |
let's talk facts. Muslims contribute ?30 billion to | :45:32. | :45:47. | |
the British economy. 50% of Muslim females or 50% of Muslim students | :45:48. | :45:52. | |
generally are in university in comparison to 38% of the general | :45:53. | :45:56. | |
public. This is what I call integration. Liz Jones, I wanted to | :45:57. | :46:02. | |
get your reaction to the fact that one of the French Presidential | :46:03. | :46:06. | |
candidates going through to the final round is Marie led pen. How do | :46:07. | :46:12. | |
you respond to that? I don't know if she is anti-immigration. She wants | :46:13. | :46:15. | |
to have more secure measures within France and that's a matter for her. | :46:16. | :46:19. | |
I don't seek to make any comment about her policies. I'm in Britain | :46:20. | :46:23. | |
and I'm concerned for the British public. Now I will say... Would you | :46:24. | :46:28. | |
rather she won compared to the independent centrist candidate? I am | :46:29. | :46:31. | |
not going to get involved with the French election. That would be | :46:32. | :46:36. | |
impertinent. Do you have an opinion? Not really. It would be impertinent | :46:37. | :46:44. | |
for me to express. Not really, you have entitled to express an opinion? | :46:45. | :46:49. | |
I wouldn't like it if she was to make remarks about the British | :46:50. | :46:53. | |
election. I'm not asking you to tell people who to vote for. I prefer | :46:54. | :46:59. | |
Marie. She is better looking. Thank you very much for your time. | :47:00. | :47:10. | |
The MP who said femininst zealots really do want | :47:11. | :47:13. | |
to have their cake and eat it will now face the leader | :47:14. | :47:16. | |
of the Women's Equality Party at the ballot box in Shipley | :47:17. | :47:19. | |
We speak to both candidates in the next hour. | :47:20. | :47:28. | |
This is an x-ray of someone with scoliosis - | :47:29. | :47:32. | |
it's where the spine twists and curves to one side. | :47:33. | :47:39. | |
Most people can live a normal life with it, | :47:40. | :47:43. | |
but those who need an operation to correct it can end up | :47:44. | :47:46. | |
It has been brought to wider attention following | :47:47. | :47:53. | |
this stand out moment on Britain's Got Talent. | :47:54. | :47:56. | |
This group came together because I've got scoliosis, so... | :47:57. | :47:59. | |
Scoliosis is like a curvature of the spine. | :48:00. | :48:04. | |
My one's quite rare because it's more common to, like, | :48:05. | :48:08. | |
have an accident and get it but I was born with it. | :48:09. | :48:12. | |
So I have to have surgery soon and after surgery, | :48:13. | :48:14. | |
I won't be able to dance so this is like my last chance because I've | :48:15. | :48:17. | |
You've got an amazing attitude. I've got to tell you. | :48:18. | :48:23. | |
# Like how a single word can make a heart open | :48:24. | :48:51. | |
# I might only have one match but I can make an explosion | :48:52. | :48:56. | |
# And all those things I didn't say were wrecking balls inside my brain | :48:57. | :49:02. | |
# I will scream them loud tonight, Can you hear my voice this time? | :49:03. | :49:09. | |
# And I don't really care if nobody else believes | :49:10. | :49:32. | |
# 'Cause I've still got a lot of fight left in me | :49:33. | :49:39. | |
# I've still got a lot of fight left in me # | :49:40. | :49:45. | |
It really touched me, so much so that I'm going to go... | :49:46. | :50:06. | |
15-year-old Julie Carlile is taking part on Britain's Got Talent | :50:07. | :50:33. | |
in the hope of raising nearly ?80,000 so she can travel | :50:34. | :50:36. | |
to America and receive another type of surgery | :50:37. | :50:38. | |
which could cure her completely and will allow her to | :50:39. | :50:40. | |
This programme has learnt NHS doctors in England already | :50:41. | :50:43. | |
have the expertise to carry out this operation, known as tethering, | :50:44. | :50:46. | |
but currently patients are not allowed it. | :50:47. | :50:48. | |
Let's now talk to Olivia Wingrove. She is 18. | :50:49. | :50:51. | |
She was diagnosed aged 15 with scoliosis - | :50:52. | :50:53. | |
His patients include professional dancers and sports stars. | :50:54. | :51:04. | |
Hello there Molloy. Olivia. Tell our audience what it is like living with | :51:05. | :51:12. | |
scoliosis. It's quite hard because you're very restricted on what you | :51:13. | :51:17. | |
can do. Like even day-to-day tasks like walking long-distances and | :51:18. | :51:20. | |
carrying a heavy bag is very hard and it strains your back. And if I | :51:21. | :51:26. | |
go to the gym or anything, I can only restrict myself in certain | :51:27. | :51:29. | |
things because I can only move so much. Right. Is it painful? Yeah, it | :51:30. | :51:34. | |
is very painful. But I've learnt to cope with the pain. I need to click | :51:35. | :51:41. | |
my back every now and then as a relief of the pain, but it's if I'm | :51:42. | :51:46. | |
sitting in one position for say half an hour, you need to move otherwise | :51:47. | :51:52. | |
it does become very painful. You were diagnosed at 15 Yes. What | :51:53. | :51:59. | |
triggered it? It is from when I heart had my growth spurt, but they | :52:00. | :52:04. | |
are not 100% sure. When you were watching this on Britain's Got | :52:05. | :52:07. | |
Talent on Saturday night, what did you think? I just tried. When she | :52:08. | :52:16. | |
came on and explained her situation. I didn't know anyone with scoliosis | :52:17. | :52:20. | |
would be able to do something like that. And the fact that she is | :52:21. | :52:26. | |
raising awareness and rather successfully so far... Yeah. Is that | :52:27. | :52:30. | |
helpful to people like yourself with this condition? Yes, because not | :52:31. | :52:35. | |
many people know about it. I only met one other person with it. I have | :52:36. | :52:40. | |
written a blog on it to raise awareness because it's like even | :52:41. | :52:43. | |
Simon Cowell didn't know what it was. No one knows. Sean Molloy thank | :52:44. | :52:49. | |
you for talking to us. What leads to scoliosis? Well, it's a combination | :52:50. | :52:54. | |
really of genetic environmental factors. We don't really know the | :52:55. | :53:01. | |
vast majority scoliosis of adolescent scoliosis and that really | :53:02. | :53:07. | |
means we don't know what the cause is. So we're left with a lot of | :53:08. | :53:12. | |
patients who particularly, females in their growth spurt who get a | :53:13. | :53:17. | |
curvature of their spine and we have to try and do something for them. | :53:18. | :53:22. | |
Julia on Britain's Got Talent has to go to America to receive this | :53:23. | :53:25. | |
tethering surgery. What is it and why can't we do it here when | :53:26. | :53:29. | |
surgeons here have the expertise in England? I think one of the simplest | :53:30. | :53:33. | |
things for your audience is many, many years ago, if you had a problem | :53:34. | :53:37. | |
with your hip or knee, you would fuse the hip or knee and that would | :53:38. | :53:42. | |
lead you to have great disability, you couldn't play tennis or squash | :53:43. | :53:45. | |
and what we have been left with in spinal surgery, in scoliosis surgery | :53:46. | :53:51. | |
we still fuse people. The hip replacement and the knee replacement | :53:52. | :53:54. | |
has come along, what we are trying to do is keep people from being | :53:55. | :53:59. | |
fused and therefore they have functional spine. So this is | :54:00. | :54:03. | |
evolutionary in terms of our techniques. So instead of fusing | :54:04. | :54:06. | |
children like we do at moment we are trying to do a thing called | :54:07. | :54:11. | |
tethering which is trying to modulate growth or the type of | :54:12. | :54:15. | |
growth that occurs in the spine as you have seen with the images we | :54:16. | :54:21. | |
have given to you, they were given from Jason at George's, you can see | :54:22. | :54:26. | |
there is a lateral curvature of the spine which is what scoliosis is and | :54:27. | :54:30. | |
the tether or the growth that you can see have been put on the long | :54:31. | :54:33. | |
side of the spine or the right-hand side of the spine as you look at the | :54:34. | :54:37. | |
images and what we're hoping to do is the child as they grow, they will | :54:38. | :54:42. | |
actually grow on the left-hand side of the spine, thereby normalising | :54:43. | :54:46. | |
the actual spine and straightening what you are seeing is three images. | :54:47. | :54:52. | |
One preoperatively with a sizeable curve. The middle image shows you | :54:53. | :54:57. | |
post-operatively, you might look at it and think it hasn't changed much | :54:58. | :55:01. | |
and you would be right in saying it hasn't changed much, but on the | :55:02. | :55:05. | |
right-hand side, 12 months done the line, the curvature has reversed and | :55:06. | :55:09. | |
we have had a cure of the actual scoliosis itself. That's the main | :55:10. | :55:13. | |
aim. Are patients not getting that in this country or are they? The | :55:14. | :55:18. | |
most important thing to say is we are cautious in this country like | :55:19. | :55:22. | |
everybody should be because, of course, the data is not complete. We | :55:23. | :55:27. | |
don't know if this treatment is going to be a long-standing | :55:28. | :55:30. | |
treatment for people. It was done first 11 years ago in the United | :55:31. | :55:34. | |
States and there was a case report, but the larger series which are only | :55:35. | :55:40. | |
20 and 32 patients were published in 2014 and 2015. There have been 20 | :55:41. | :55:44. | |
cases done at St George's Hospital in London and also we started a | :55:45. | :55:49. | |
programme here a the Royal National Orthopaedic Hospital, but for the | :55:50. | :55:55. | |
time NHS England want to have a look at this and decide how this | :55:56. | :55:59. | |
treatment maybe commissioned and how the funding stream will be given for | :56:00. | :56:04. | |
these patients. Thank you very much, Sean. Sean Molloy who is a spinal | :56:05. | :56:11. | |
surgeon. Actually lots of people live with | :56:12. | :56:15. | |
scoliosis very successfully and do not need surgery. | :56:16. | :56:20. | |
The general election will see plenty of new faces in parliament - | :56:21. | :56:23. | |
and other long serving politicians leaving - including former | :56:24. | :56:25. | |
Conservative Party chairman Sir Eric Pickles who's been | :56:26. | :56:27. | |
in British politics for 25 years, but has announced | :56:28. | :56:29. | |
he won't be seeking re-election in the Brentwood and | :56:30. | :56:32. | |
We can speak to him now in Chelmsford. | :56:33. | :56:33. | |
Hello to you. Hello. Why are you leaving? I have decided | :56:34. | :56:47. | |
that this would be my last Parliament and I decide after | :56:48. | :56:51. | |
Theresa's shock announcement whether I wanted to do another and I decided | :56:52. | :56:55. | |
that I didn't, I think it is far better to leave when people are | :56:56. | :56:59. | |
wondering why you step down than to hang around and wonder why you're | :57:00. | :57:03. | |
still there are. In the past you have been involved in drafting four | :57:04. | :57:07. | |
Conservative manifestoes, clearly, you don't know the specifics of what | :57:08. | :57:11. | |
will be in the next one. I'm in the going to ask you about the specifics | :57:12. | :57:14. | |
of the next manifesto, but let me ask you what you think voters should | :57:15. | :57:18. | |
read into your chancellor and the Prime Minister repewsing to rule out | :57:19. | :57:22. | |
tax rises if the Conservatives do win? I think what we should do as | :57:23. | :57:31. | |
what we have done in prior elections is to wait for the manifesto and all | :57:32. | :57:39. | |
will be there. I understand until the manifesto comes out, people are | :57:40. | :57:44. | |
desperate to look at every nuance of what various people are saying and | :57:45. | :57:48. | |
by and large, it is best to wait for the manifesto to come out. But it is | :57:49. | :57:53. | |
interesting from a voter's point of view that so far given several | :57:54. | :57:57. | |
opportunities both have failed to rule out tax rises? Well, they're | :57:58. | :58:06. | |
both Conservatives and this is something that I shared in common | :58:07. | :58:11. | |
and the Conservative Party is committed to reducing taxation. | :58:12. | :58:15. | |
After all, I think, we have taken vast numbers of people out of paying | :58:16. | :58:23. | |
tax and many people on low pay, I think they are ?1,000 better off | :58:24. | :58:26. | |
through the things that we've done. Which makes it even more interesting | :58:27. | :58:30. | |
that they haven't chosen to rule tax rises out out yet anyway. Let me ask | :58:31. | :58:34. | |
you about something else. The Work and Pensions Secretary said | :58:35. | :58:36. | |
yesterday that a future Conservative Government would block a rise in | :58:37. | :58:40. | |
energy prices which would cut household bills by ?100. Do you | :58:41. | :58:44. | |
think that kind of intervention in the market could lead to power | :58:45. | :58:51. | |
shortages? I think that's unlikely, but I can understand why the | :58:52. | :58:57. | |
Secretary of State is thinking that. Given the various rises that have | :58:58. | :59:03. | |
happened, to use a technical legal term the energy companies have been | :59:04. | :59:09. | |
having a laugh. They have been putting up prices without good | :59:10. | :59:15. | |
reason and I think they deserve what they're going to get. The reason I | :59:16. | :59:19. | |
ask because the then leader of Labour, Ed Miliband, when he said he | :59:20. | :59:23. | |
was going to do something similar you said in response, "Power | :59:24. | :59:29. | |
shortages are now a genuine threat." Well, that was a couple of years | :59:30. | :59:37. | |
ago. I think we hadn't seen the action of the power companies and I | :59:38. | :59:44. | |
think we can be reasonably assured that under the Conservatives that we | :59:45. | :59:49. | |
will be able to deliver a reasonable power bill and we will ensure that | :59:50. | :59:53. | |
power remains. You worbed for Margaret Thatcher and you worked for | :59:54. | :59:55. | |
Theresa May. What are the differences? I didn't work for | :59:56. | :00:01. | |
Margaret Thatcher. I knew Margaret Thatcher. Sorry, I should have said | :00:02. | :00:07. | |
that. Yeah. Yeah, I knew her. It many ways Theresa May reminds quite | :00:08. | :00:14. | |
a bit. I have known Theresa for 20 odd years and there is more than a | :00:15. | :00:19. | |
passing resemblance but Theresa is her own person and just because she | :00:20. | :00:26. | |
is a female Prime Minister perhaps it isn't that healthy to continually | :00:27. | :00:34. | |
compare her to Margaret Thatcher who was by any definition a one off. | :00:35. | :00:38. | |
Right, thank you very much. Thank you for talking to us Eric Pickles. | :00:39. | :00:42. | |
And he is standing down. Let's get the latest | :00:43. | :00:47. | |
weather update with Carol. This morning, we have seen some rain | :00:48. | :00:57. | |
and snow. You can see that we have snow falling in Aberdeenshire. We | :00:58. | :01:06. | |
have snow showers across eastern Scotland into the far north-east of | :01:07. | :01:13. | |
England. More cloud will spread south through the course of the | :01:14. | :01:16. | |
afternoon. The wind will also feature. That will be with us | :01:17. | :01:21. | |
tonight, blowing for the showers across northern Scotland into | :01:22. | :01:24. | |
Northern Ireland, parts of Wales and eastern England. Away from this, it | :01:25. | :01:27. | |
will be a cold night. There will also be frost and the risk of ice on | :01:28. | :01:32. | |
untreated surfaces. But a beautiful start to the day tomorrow in terms | :01:33. | :01:36. | |
of sunshine. Still showers at low levels in the north. Still that | :01:37. | :01:40. | |
bitingly cold northerly wind. Here in there, we could see wintry | :01:41. | :01:47. | |
flurries. If you are exposed to that northerly wind, it will feel much | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
colder than those temperatures are suggesting. | :01:52. | :01:57. | |
Welcome to the programme. Last night's presidential election in | :01:58. | :02:00. | |
France was historic. Voters abandoned the mainstream | :02:01. | :02:15. | |
parties and it was a shock - the result has sent shock waves through | :02:16. | :02:19. | |
the French political system. I mean, it's just a crushing defeat. The | :02:20. | :02:24. | |
whole French political landscape is being redesigned. Also, after seven | :02:25. | :02:30. | |
people were killed in a tram derailment in Croydon last year, | :02:31. | :02:33. | |
four drivers tell this programme they fell asleep while operating | :02:34. | :02:38. | |
trams on that line. How many drivers do you think have fallen asleep in | :02:39. | :02:43. | |
the cabin? Most drivers have at some point in their careers. | :02:44. | :02:47. | |
We will also hear from those who have given up their lives to look | :02:48. | :02:50. | |
after a family member, as campaigners the last social care | :02:51. | :02:54. | |
must be a priority in the election. It's the most isolating situation | :02:55. | :02:58. | |
anyone could find themselves in. And your mother is the one person you | :02:59. | :03:02. | |
should be able to talk to about that. Yes. And... Can't any more. | :03:03. | :03:13. | |
Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news. | :03:14. | :03:17. | |
Voters in France have chosen the two candidates who will go | :03:18. | :03:20. | |
through to the final round of the presidential | :03:21. | :03:22. | |
Emmanuel Macron, who is the leader of a brand new political movement, | :03:23. | :03:30. | |
will take on the anti-immigration far right leader Marine Le Pen. | :03:31. | :03:33. | |
It's the first time in six decades the mainstream parties have not had | :03:34. | :03:36. | |
The two frontrunners addressed supporters as the results | :03:37. | :03:40. | |
TRANSLATION: I want to become the president of all the people of | :03:41. | :03:52. | |
France, the president of the Patriots, in the face of the threat | :03:53. | :03:59. | |
from the Nationalists. TRANSLATION: The time has come to get rid of all | :04:00. | :04:04. | |
the arrogant people who wanted to dictate to the population what they | :04:05. | :04:06. | |
should do. I am the candidate for the people. | :04:07. | :04:09. | |
A 21-year-old man's been arrested in Manchester in connection | :04:10. | :04:11. | |
with the murder of a former Royal Navy officer. | :04:12. | :04:13. | |
Mike Samwell, who was 35, died yesterday after confronting | :04:14. | :04:18. | |
intruders who are thought to have struck him with his | :04:19. | :04:20. | |
Mr Samwell was asleep with his wife and had gone downstairs | :04:21. | :04:26. | |
to investigate loud noises when it's believed he was killed. | :04:27. | :04:28. | |
Four drivers say they've fallen asleep while operating trams | :04:29. | :04:30. | |
in Croydon, where seven people were killed when a tram derailed | :04:31. | :04:34. | |
An investigation for this programme also found a failure | :04:35. | :04:38. | |
with a safety device, known as "a dead man's handle", | :04:39. | :04:41. | |
that was not reported to the regulator and three | :04:42. | :04:43. | |
incidents of speeding since the crash in November. | :04:44. | :04:45. | |
Tram Operations Ltd, which runs the line, | :04:46. | :04:48. | |
said driver fatigue was monitored and controls were | :04:49. | :04:51. | |
We'll bring you more on that investigation shortly. | :04:52. | :04:56. | |
Jeremy Corbyn is promising to repeal what he calls "vicious" | :04:57. | :04:59. | |
trade union legislation, brought in by the Conservatives, | :05:00. | :05:01. | |
The Labour leader will make the pledge today to trade union | :05:02. | :05:09. | |
members in Scotland, where his party's trying to claw | :05:10. | :05:12. | |
back support after huge losses in the election two years ago. | :05:13. | :05:14. | |
Two men are due to appear in court today, charged in connection | :05:15. | :05:18. | |
with an acid attack at a nightclub in east London on Easter Monday, | :05:19. | :05:21. | |
which left two people blind in one eye. | :05:22. | :05:23. | |
Arthur Collins, who's 24 and the boyfriend | :05:24. | :05:25. | |
of the reality TV star, Ferne McCann, is facing 14 counts | :05:26. | :05:28. | |
of wounding with intent and one count of throwing corrosive fluid | :05:29. | :05:30. | |
with intent to cause grievous bodily harm. | :05:31. | :05:37. | |
The Government will go to the High Court to try to delay | :05:38. | :05:41. | |
publishing its strategy for tackling air pollution. | :05:42. | :05:42. | |
Today was the deadline for ministers to present their plans, | :05:43. | :05:45. | |
but they claim voting rules mean they can't publish | :05:46. | :05:47. | |
sensitive policies before the general election. | :05:48. | :05:49. | |
Campaigners say they're trying to dodge a difficult issue | :05:50. | :05:52. | |
because of nervousness about increasing tax | :05:53. | :05:53. | |
Tougher punishments for the most serious cases of speeding have come | :05:54. | :06:03. | |
into force in England and Wales today. | :06:04. | :06:05. | |
Drivers can now be fined one and a half times their weekly | :06:06. | :06:09. | |
that means driving over 50 miles an hour in a 30 zone or | :06:10. | :06:15. | |
And a 12-year-old who was trying to drive across the entire breadth | :06:16. | :06:21. | |
of Australia has been picked up by police. | :06:22. | :06:23. | |
The boy was pulled over already 800 miles into his | :06:24. | :06:26. | |
journey in Broken Hill in the New South Wales outback | :06:27. | :06:29. | |
on Saturday after a patrol noticed the car's bumper dragging | :06:30. | :06:31. | |
Police believe he'd planned to keep going all the way to Perth, | :06:32. | :06:37. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30. | :06:38. | :06:53. | |
Do get in touch. Your experiences help inform our conversation. We are | :06:54. | :06:59. | |
hearing from many of you who care full-time for a relative. John | :07:00. | :07:02. | |
tweets, I am in the same situation as the brave carer in your film. My | :07:03. | :07:08. | |
wife is 59 and will need 24 hour care for the rest of her life. | :07:09. | :07:14. | |
Juliette says, my mum can't move, speak or eat. I feed her through a | :07:15. | :07:18. | |
tube in her stomach. She needs 24/7 care. I am an unpaid care and | :07:19. | :07:23. | |
keeping my mum alive and it is very hard. Tony says, I am a full-time | :07:24. | :07:28. | |
carer for my severely disabled partner, with cerebral palsy. She | :07:29. | :07:32. | |
will never get better. I have been doing it for 25 years. Constant | :07:33. | :07:35. | |
interference from the government doesn't help. They should accept | :07:36. | :07:40. | |
that some people will never ever be able to work, so they should stop | :07:41. | :07:44. | |
the harassment. Carers save this country billions. I wouldn't change | :07:45. | :07:48. | |
what I do for the world, but the government could make things easier. | :07:49. | :07:52. | |
We will talk more about carers after 10.30. | :07:53. | :07:58. | |
Almost 40,000 runners completed the London Marathon yesterday. There are | :07:59. | :08:09. | |
always so many inspiring stories, but one has generated huge interest. | :08:10. | :08:13. | |
The pictures of runner David Wyeth being helped over the line by a | :08:14. | :08:19. | |
fellow competitor, Matthew Rees, this clip on the BBC Sport Facebook | :08:20. | :08:23. | |
site alone has been viewed more than 5 million times. David received | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
medical attention after the race. Thankfully, he was OK after a big | :08:29. | :08:33. | |
burger, I am told. This morning, the pair were reunited. He was telling | :08:34. | :08:38. | |
me to go on, but I want to make sure he got to the finish line. I didn't | :08:39. | :08:42. | |
want him to not make the end. I am so grateful. You say that others | :08:43. | :08:54. | |
would have stopped, and I am sure you are right, there may have been | :08:55. | :08:57. | |
others, but you persisted. I told you to go and you still didn't. No | :08:58. | :09:08. | |
worries. Matthew, who helped David, is a member of the Swansea Harriers | :09:09. | :09:13. | |
running club. It was a great day for the South Wales team yesterday. | :09:14. | :09:16. | |
They're one of Josh Griffiths was the first Briton home in a time of | :09:17. | :09:21. | |
two hours, 14 minutes and 49 seconds, in his first marathon. We | :09:22. | :09:27. | |
can speak to him now. Where have you been hiding, Josh? I am in a hotel | :09:28. | :09:35. | |
by Tower Bridge. I was supposed to be going home, but my life has taken | :09:36. | :09:41. | |
a bit of a turn. Let's show you some pictures of the start. Here, you are | :09:42. | :09:49. | |
good ten metres back from the start. When did it start to click during | :09:50. | :09:52. | |
the race that you were running past Olympians and that you had a chance | :09:53. | :10:00. | |
of finishing as the top Briton? Around halfway, before I knew it, I | :10:01. | :10:06. | |
was in that group. And all of a sudden, I was starting to move away | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
from the group. It didn't hit me until the later stages that that was | :10:11. | :10:17. | |
happening. Incredibly, you are self coached, Josh. You are studying a | :10:18. | :10:20. | |
Masters degree at Cardiff Metropolitan. What kind of training | :10:21. | :10:23. | |
had you done before this and what were your best times? I had a coach | :10:24. | :10:30. | |
previously when I was racing on the track, but for the marathon I | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
decided to coach myself. So last month, I did a half marathon in | :10:36. | :10:42. | |
Llanelli, where I ran in 65 minutes. And Matthew Rees from Swansea was | :10:43. | :10:50. | |
also second in that race. Incredible, the fact that you are | :10:51. | :10:53. | |
now going to the World Championships in London in the summer. If that's | :10:54. | :10:59. | |
something you definitely want to do? Most certainly. It was not something | :11:00. | :11:03. | |
I had considered before yesterday, but I can't wait to get started with | :11:04. | :11:09. | |
it. That is what you train for. Incredible. There are rumours that | :11:10. | :11:14. | |
you jumped on the Metropolitan Line and the number 63 bus to Tower Hill. | :11:15. | :11:24. | |
Can you deny those? I got to the start with the masses like the rest! | :11:25. | :11:32. | |
It is crazy. Congratulations. Josh Griffiths, heading to the World | :11:33. | :11:37. | |
Athletics Championships in 2017. We will have more headlines at 10.30. | :11:38. | :11:41. | |
In France, the electorate has given a big two fingers up to | :11:42. | :11:44. | |
For the first time in almost 60 years, neither of the two big | :11:45. | :11:51. | |
parties will be in the final run-off for the presidential | :11:52. | :11:54. | |
Which is basically the equivalent of the Conservatives and Labour | :11:55. | :11:57. | |
The two candidates who are through to the next | :11:58. | :12:00. | |
In one corner is Emmanuel Macron, a former banker, who's seen | :12:01. | :12:07. | |
as a political outsider, having never run an election | :12:08. | :12:09. | |
campaign before - his new party only started a year ago. | :12:10. | :12:12. | |
He says he wants to create a new kind of politics, | :12:13. | :12:16. | |
breaking down the divisions between the traditional | :12:17. | :12:18. | |
He's up against Marine Le Pen - leader of the National Front, | :12:19. | :12:29. | |
who wants to slash immigration, clamp down on free trade, and bring | :12:30. | :12:31. | |
She's the daughter of France's former National Front | :12:32. | :12:35. | |
leader Jean-Marie Le Pen - a convicted racist. | :12:36. | :12:43. | |
Let's speak now to Karin Giannone, who is in Paris for us, | :12:44. | :12:46. | |
tell us about the two candidates who are through to the second | :12:47. | :12:49. | |
round run-off on May 7th, and a little bit more | :12:50. | :12:51. | |
Yes, two extremes, particularly in their vision of Europe that you | :12:52. | :13:02. | |
mentioned. The whole country is trying to come to terms with this | :13:03. | :13:06. | |
completely changed political landscape. As you were mentioning, | :13:07. | :13:10. | |
the two main parties are out of the picture completely and the ruling | :13:11. | :13:14. | |
party, the party of the current president Francois Hollande, only | :13:15. | :13:20. | |
managed 6% Iniesta the's election. Imagine if that were replicated in | :13:21. | :13:26. | |
the UK. Emmanuel Macron, the very young centrist candidate at only 39, | :13:27. | :13:31. | |
is the forward-looking globalist who wants to be in a more federal | :13:32. | :13:35. | |
Europe, against Marine Le Pen, who wants to close France's borders, end | :13:36. | :13:39. | |
immigration and bring in protectionist policies. Some are | :13:40. | :13:43. | |
calling this a referendum for France on Europe because of those wildly | :13:44. | :13:49. | |
opposing views about the European Union. So the next 13 days are going | :13:50. | :13:56. | |
to be a critical time. What does the fact that these two are through to | :13:57. | :13:58. | |
the final round say about French society? You might expect that at a | :13:59. | :14:05. | |
time of heightened terror threat, with the attack here on Thursday | :14:06. | :14:11. | |
near the Champs Elysees -- might have turned France towards a more | :14:12. | :14:15. | |
additional candidate like Francois Fillon, who was running for the | :14:16. | :14:18. | |
centre-right. Some might have seen him becoming more the choice of the | :14:19. | :14:22. | |
people as they looked to someone who could reassure them and provide | :14:23. | :14:25. | |
experience. That hasn't happened. They have gone for Emmanuel Macron, | :14:26. | :14:30. | |
the untested, unelected former minister, and Marine Le Pen. That is | :14:31. | :14:36. | |
really being reflected on right now. Many people I have been speaking to | :14:37. | :14:40. | |
have said there is an anger in French society. There is also hope | :14:41. | :14:46. | |
reflected in the Macron voters. There is this sense that the parties | :14:47. | :14:49. | |
who have been in charge for more than 50 years are not doing what | :14:50. | :14:53. | |
they should be doing, a sense that the elite are in charge and the | :14:54. | :14:57. | |
ordinary people are being ignored, and that is really coming through in | :14:58. | :15:02. | |
this election. And I believe you have someone with you? Yes, let's | :15:03. | :15:12. | |
talk to Ann. We were talking about what you can draw from this result | :15:13. | :15:15. | |
about what is going on in French people's minds. Why do they opt for | :15:16. | :15:19. | |
outsiders when they could have had the reassurance and security of a | :15:20. | :15:22. | |
candidate who has been in politics for decades? | :15:23. | :15:28. | |
French people wake up with a total new political landscape and they | :15:29. | :15:35. | |
have to share between different proposals of very different | :15:36. | :15:43. | |
candidates. We have 2-2 Frances which are divided actually and | :15:44. | :15:55. | |
probably Emmanuel Macron will have to be more passive with this part of | :15:56. | :16:04. | |
France which is very critical, very protesting, which have a lot of | :16:05. | :16:11. | |
anger, rage. You spoke about rage. It's really the term and so the next | :16:12. | :16:19. | |
two weeks will be very interesting to see how the French people, the | :16:20. | :16:26. | |
French voters will adapt with this very new political offer. And the | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
contrast between these two candidates almost seems really a | :16:31. | :16:35. | |
crossroads, people to chose more integration with the EU or a | :16:36. | :16:39. | |
withdrawal from the euro at least, completely. It is a new cliff edge. | :16:40. | :16:46. | |
It will be interesting to British viewers as well. It is interesting | :16:47. | :16:52. | |
because in France we have lost the traditional between left and right. | :16:53. | :17:02. | |
We see Europe or non Europe. An open society or closed society and also | :17:03. | :17:10. | |
with issue as immigration and terrorism also which arrive at the | :17:11. | :17:21. | |
first position because it concerns a lot of French population. Thank you | :17:22. | :17:26. | |
very much. So a real contrast in choice now | :17:27. | :17:30. | |
facing the French people. We have had months of relentless | :17:31. | :17:33. | |
campaigning. We've got two more weeks of it now. Thank you very | :17:34. | :17:40. | |
much. Emmanuel Macron described himself as | :17:41. | :17:45. | |
the patriotic choice for France. TRANSLATION: I want to become the | :17:46. | :17:49. | |
president of the whole people of France, the president of the | :17:50. | :17:53. | |
patriots in the face of the threat represented by nationalists. | :17:54. | :18:02. | |
APPLAUSE The president able to protect, to | :18:03. | :18:07. | |
transform, and to build up. A president who is able to allow those | :18:08. | :18:13. | |
who are willing to create, innovate, start work, to do it faster, more | :18:14. | :18:22. | |
easily. I want to be a president who is going to support and help the | :18:23. | :18:26. | |
more fragile among us, those who have been upset by life and do that | :18:27. | :18:32. | |
through help, school, work, solidarity. | :18:33. | :18:44. | |
Marine Le Pen said a vote for her was for the survival of France. | :18:45. | :18:51. | |
TRANSLATION: Without forgetting he friends overseas that trusted me and | :18:52. | :18:55. | |
I'm proud of the confidence they manifested towards me. The time has | :18:56. | :19:01. | |
come to get rid of the arrogant people who want to dictate to the | :19:02. | :19:04. | |
population what they should do. I am the candidate for the people. And it | :19:05. | :19:13. | |
is an appeal to all the sincere patriots wherever they come, | :19:14. | :19:16. | |
whatever their origin, whatever they voted for in the past round, I | :19:17. | :19:23. | |
invite them all to join us and to abandon old-fashioned quarrels and | :19:24. | :19:28. | |
to concentrate on what is the superior interest of our country. | :19:29. | :19:32. | |
That was really essential. Marine Le Pen. | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
Four drivers have admitted falling asleep while operating trams | :19:38. | :19:40. | |
in Croydon, where seven people were killed after a tram | :19:41. | :19:42. | |
Drivers have told this programme a safety device, | :19:43. | :19:47. | |
known as "a dead man's handle", failed to activate | :19:48. | :19:49. | |
Ed Thomas has the story. What have drivers been telling you. The | :19:50. | :20:02. | |
drivers come forward to say first of all, they are falling asleep in the | :20:03. | :20:06. | |
cab in charge of a tram and secondly, that they're concerned | :20:07. | :20:09. | |
over this driver safety device. Victoria, it is difficult to have | :20:10. | :20:14. | |
sympathy for these drivers, but they say, if they're to go to the | :20:15. | :20:17. | |
company, they are in fear of being sacked. Now, the people who operate | :20:18. | :20:23. | |
this tram line, they say driver fatigue is monitored and that these | :20:24. | :20:27. | |
safety devices are fully functional, but this is the story of those | :20:28. | :20:31. | |
drivers and the families of those who died who still want to know what | :20:32. | :20:32. | |
happened. Here, seven people were | :20:33. | :20:36. | |
killed, over 50 injured. For the first time, we hear | :20:37. | :20:46. | |
from drivers who have fallen asleep on duty, | :20:47. | :20:53. | |
their fears over the We reveal the trams still going too | :20:54. | :20:55. | |
fast, and five months on, Yeah, it's happened | :20:56. | :21:06. | |
to me once in ten years. This Croydon tram driver | :21:07. | :21:16. | |
would only speak to us if we protected his identity | :21:17. | :21:18. | |
and changed his voice. How many drivers do you think have | :21:19. | :21:20. | |
fallen asleep in the cab? I would say that most drivers have | :21:21. | :21:25. | |
at some point in their careers. He is admitting what many | :21:26. | :21:31. | |
would consider gross It is called the traction | :21:32. | :21:33. | |
brake controller, or TBC, the driving lever that | :21:34. | :21:40. | |
powers the train. Inside, the safety device known | :21:41. | :21:43. | |
as the dead man's handle. This driver says when he fell | :21:44. | :21:46. | |
asleep, it did not work. That was enough to keep the dead | :21:47. | :21:48. | |
man's handle from being activated. Why aren't drivers telling | :21:49. | :22:02. | |
the operators what is going on? If we were to come forward and say, | :22:03. | :22:06. | |
"Excuse me, I fell asleep", But we're talking about | :22:07. | :22:09. | |
people's lives, here. The most important people | :22:10. | :22:14. | |
are the passengers. Four drivers have told the BBC | :22:15. | :22:17. | |
they have fallen asleep in the cab. I woke up about ten metres | :22:18. | :22:32. | |
after the tram stop. After 16 years, | :22:33. | :22:34. | |
he retired last year. In 2005, his tram rolled | :22:35. | :22:37. | |
through George Street. A person was very fortunate | :22:38. | :22:41. | |
I did not run them over. No, there wasn't any | :22:42. | :22:48. | |
emergency braking. As we were advised that | :22:49. | :22:54. | |
it should have done. We have been told of three other | :22:55. | :23:01. | |
incidents where drivers are believed One was a collision | :23:02. | :23:04. | |
with buffers at Elmers End. Another was a tram driver | :23:05. | :23:10. | |
here at Morden Road, spotted sleeping in a moving tram | :23:11. | :23:12. | |
by ticket inspectors, who had Drivers asked us to watch | :23:13. | :23:17. | |
the footage again. A tram driver who | :23:18. | :23:31. | |
appears to be asleep. There's no alarm, | :23:32. | :23:33. | |
no emergency brakes. Had that been in another | :23:34. | :23:40. | |
location, that could have The alarm should be sounding | :23:41. | :23:47. | |
at the tram should be stopping. That is what the video should be | :23:48. | :23:51. | |
depicting, but it's not. Transport for London | :23:52. | :23:54. | |
is responsible for the line. We asked why the dead man's handle | :23:55. | :23:57. | |
in this video didn't activate. I think you will see | :23:58. | :24:01. | |
that he is in and out He's coming to and starting to doze | :24:02. | :24:05. | |
and coming to and starting to doze. Why was there no alarm? | :24:06. | :24:13. | |
Why was there no braking? Well, because, if he were to | :24:14. | :24:15. | |
completely pass out, if he were to completely lose | :24:16. | :24:17. | |
consciousness, then But it's OK just to slightly doze | :24:18. | :24:21. | |
in a tab like we saw in the clip? The company who operates the trams | :24:22. | :24:26. | |
for TfL, Tram Operations Limited, says driver fatigue is monitored | :24:27. | :24:32. | |
and on the driver safety device, says it is satisfied the controls | :24:33. | :24:39. | |
are fully functional. It is important to consider | :24:40. | :24:44. | |
what these driver safety Designed in part if a driver | :24:45. | :24:49. | |
collapses after a heart attack. But we have found this guidance | :24:50. | :24:53. | |
on the regulator's website, It says, "The DSD should be designed | :24:54. | :24:56. | |
so that it cannot be kept in the operating position other | :24:57. | :25:02. | |
than by a vigilant tram driver". Drivers have also told us | :25:03. | :25:09. | |
about specific faults We have obtained this | :25:10. | :25:14. | |
video of an empty tram, We understand this is an extreme | :25:15. | :25:17. | |
setting and TfL has now rectified The spring was obviously | :25:18. | :25:22. | |
broken in the DSD. This former driver didn't | :25:23. | :25:29. | |
want to be identified. He claims the alarm on the driver | :25:30. | :25:35. | |
safety device first delayed, then completely failed, | :25:36. | :25:37. | |
in May 2016. The engineering department knew | :25:38. | :25:39. | |
about it and they said they were aware of it but it's | :25:40. | :25:48. | |
completely safe to carry on. I had to raise my voice over | :25:49. | :25:51. | |
the recorded radio system and say to them if I had a heart attack | :25:52. | :25:56. | |
or became unconscious, this tram will go through the buffers | :25:57. | :26:00. | |
at Beckenham Junction at 50 Only when I said that, | :26:01. | :26:01. | |
they said, "Take it out This man said other | :26:02. | :26:07. | |
drivers were also aware. Some drivers found it worrying | :26:08. | :26:13. | |
but they found it amusing in a way, that you could drive | :26:14. | :26:16. | |
without using your hands. We have also discovered | :26:17. | :26:18. | |
that the safety regulator wasn't The Office of Rail and Road told us | :26:19. | :26:21. | |
all DSD failures should They should have pulled the entire | :26:22. | :26:27. | |
fleet in and tested every single In a statement, the operators, | :26:28. | :26:32. | |
Tram Operations Limited, said there was not a full failure | :26:33. | :26:38. | |
of the driver safety device. Passengers were not at risk | :26:39. | :26:43. | |
and the tram was examined and the fault was rectified | :26:44. | :26:46. | |
the next day. Transport for London | :26:47. | :26:49. | |
said despite that fault, We can also reveal at least three | :26:50. | :26:52. | |
trams have been recorded speeding One was travelling at 65 kilometres | :26:53. | :27:07. | |
per hour in a 40 zone. Another was speeding close | :27:08. | :27:11. | |
to the disaster site itself. The operator told us it had | :27:12. | :27:15. | |
increased speed checks All we know is that this tram | :27:16. | :27:21. | |
was speeding at 43.5. And still waiting for answers, | :27:22. | :27:28. | |
the families of those who died, people like this lady, | :27:29. | :27:31. | |
who lost her husband, Phil. Everyone that was on that tram that | :27:32. | :27:35. | |
day, it's changed their lives. The others who have managed to walk | :27:36. | :27:55. | |
away are living nightmares. Investigators are trying | :27:56. | :28:01. | |
to answer that question, to piece together a disaster that | :28:02. | :28:10. | |
changed so many lives. Astonishing regarding the equipment. | :28:11. | :28:25. | |
As a passenger you just want the alarm to activate. You want the | :28:26. | :28:28. | |
handle to work, don't you? That's why it is difficult to have that | :28:29. | :28:33. | |
sympathy for drivers who say they're falling asleep and the wife of | :28:34. | :28:37. | |
somebody who died at Sandilands, she speaks for many, when she says, "I | :28:38. | :28:43. | |
just want to know." Drivers say take a look at this driver's safety | :28:44. | :28:47. | |
device. It is not working on some occasions when we are in the trams, | :28:48. | :28:50. | |
but the operators are saying it is fit for purpose. It is tested. There | :28:51. | :28:54. | |
is not a problem. The tram drivers should not be falling asleep. Thank | :28:55. | :28:57. | |
you very much, Ed. Ed Thomas reporting. | :28:58. | :29:00. | |
If you're watching on BBC Two, in a moment you'll be able to watch | :29:01. | :29:05. | |
To continue watching our programme turn over | :29:06. | :29:08. | |
to the BBC News Channel - where coming up in | :29:09. | :29:10. | |
As a campaign calls for making social care a priority in this | :29:11. | :29:27. | |
Our top story today - the leader of a brand new French | :29:28. | :29:30. | |
political movement will take on the anti-immigration far right | :29:31. | :29:32. | |
leader Marine Le Pen in the second round of | :29:33. | :29:34. | |
Emmanuel Macron came first in the vote yesterday. | :29:35. | :29:37. | |
He launched his own centrist movement a year ago, taking | :29:38. | :29:39. | |
It's the first time in six decades the mainstream parties have not had | :29:40. | :29:44. | |
We can speak now to two French voters. | :29:45. | :29:47. | |
We have Davy Rodriguez, a Marine Le Pen supporter. | :29:48. | :29:51. | |
And Margaux Pech, an Emmanuel Macron supporter. | :29:52. | :29:59. | |
For our British audience, Margaux, I wonder if you could expect why you | :30:00. | :30:06. | |
think Monsieur Macron would be right for France? Oh, yes. Emmanuel Macron | :30:07. | :30:15. | |
is my candidate and I think last night, we chose the renewal of | :30:16. | :30:22. | |
ideas, of people and a way of doing politics. I think he has a vision | :30:23. | :30:32. | |
and with his project, we are going to rebuild Europe. This is really | :30:33. | :30:37. | |
important to us and it is important for your British citizens to | :30:38. | :30:41. | |
understand that we want to be a leader in Europe and rebuild this | :30:42. | :30:46. | |
project, because Europe has been on hold for ten years now. This is one | :30:47. | :30:55. | |
of the biggest objectives. Davy, Marine Le Pen is offering the | :30:56. | :31:01. | |
complete opposite. She wants a referendum an in-out referendum on | :31:02. | :31:04. | |
whether France should continue as a member of the European Union, like | :31:05. | :31:09. | |
we had in Britain. She wants out of the euro and she wants to close the | :31:10. | :31:12. | |
borders, the polar opposite of what Monsieur Macron is offering. Why do | :31:13. | :31:15. | |
you say Marine Le Pen should be the next president? That is totally | :31:16. | :31:22. | |
true. We have to different models of what France could be in a few years. | :31:23. | :31:28. | |
I think Marine Le Pen is now leading the way to a Frexit in order to have | :31:29. | :31:41. | |
our own democracy. That is why we are defending two different ideas. | :31:42. | :31:52. | |
From one side, we have the idea of Emmanuel Macron and on the other | :31:53. | :31:56. | |
hand you have Marine Le Pen with real renewal. The renewal is not | :31:57. | :32:01. | |
only about people, it is about ideas, and the ideas of Emmanuel | :32:02. | :32:05. | |
Macron are the same as Francois Hollande, Francois Fillon and the | :32:06. | :32:08. | |
other politics in France for 40 years. Margaux, how divided would | :32:09. | :32:20. | |
you say French people are? I think, yeah, we have some division now in | :32:21. | :32:24. | |
France about Europe, for example. But the thing is that Emmanuel | :32:25. | :32:29. | |
Macron wants to bring this country together with a new way through this | :32:30. | :32:39. | |
century into this open world. Now we see with this election that it is | :32:40. | :32:42. | |
the end of traditional parties both on the left and right sides. So now | :32:43. | :32:50. | |
we want to bring new faces to politics. That is what Emmanuel | :32:51. | :32:54. | |
Macron is doing. I think we have a real vision to bring France to be a | :32:55. | :33:07. | |
leader in our world. So I think with this campaign, focused on education | :33:08. | :33:13. | |
and rebuilding Europe, we can bring together French people. We had some | :33:14. | :33:25. | |
attacks on Emmanuel Macron and people are not realising that his | :33:26. | :33:30. | |
project is the right one. We saw this last night, because he came | :33:31. | :33:35. | |
first in the first round of this presidency. And Davy, what chance | :33:36. | :33:46. | |
does Marine Le Pen have of becoming president in reality? My opinion is | :33:47. | :33:55. | |
that she has a chance of winning this election. The voters who elect | :33:56. | :34:08. | |
people, for example, the voters of Francois Fillon want a cultural | :34:09. | :34:14. | |
division. They want to defend our cultural civilisation and a lot of | :34:15. | :34:17. | |
them are in favour of limiting immigration. Then you have the | :34:18. | :34:21. | |
voters of Jean-Luc Melenchon, who also want to defend our tensions and | :34:22. | :34:29. | |
economy -- they want to defend our pensions. Maybe voters from both | :34:30. | :34:32. | |
sides will vote for Marine Le Pen. Here, we are defending ideas. We are | :34:33. | :34:38. | |
not only changing faces, we are changing the model. | :34:39. | :34:47. | |
With the rest of the news, here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom. | :34:48. | :34:49. | |
A 21-year-old man's been arrested in Manchester in connection | :34:50. | :34:51. | |
with the murder of a former Royal Navy officer. | :34:52. | :34:54. | |
Mike Samwell, who was 35, died yesterday after confronting | :34:55. | :34:56. | |
intruders who are thought to have struck him with his | :34:57. | :34:58. | |
Mr Samwell was asleep with his wife and had gone downstairs | :34:59. | :35:02. | |
to investigate loud noises when it's believed he was killed. | :35:03. | :35:09. | |
Detective Superintendent John Chadwick is from Manchester police. | :35:10. | :35:14. | |
This could have happened to anybody. You hear a noise downstairs and you | :35:15. | :35:20. | |
go and see what it is. It is incredibly tragic. Any information, | :35:21. | :35:23. | |
we need to hear it. Two men are due to appear in court | :35:24. | :35:33. | |
today, charged in connection with an acid attack at a nightclub | :35:34. | :35:36. | |
in east London on Easter Monday, which left two people | :35:37. | :35:39. | |
blind in one eye. Arthur Collins, who's | :35:40. | :35:41. | |
24 and the boyfriend of the reality TV star, | :35:42. | :35:43. | |
Ferne McCann, is facing 14 counts of wounding with intent and one | :35:44. | :35:45. | |
count of throwing corrosive fluid with intent to cause | :35:46. | :35:48. | |
grievous bodily harm. The Government will go | :35:49. | :35:50. | |
to the High Court to try to delay publishing its strategy | :35:51. | :35:53. | |
for tackling air pollution. Today was the deadline for ministers | :35:54. | :35:54. | |
to present their plans, but they claim voting rules mean | :35:55. | :35:57. | |
they can't publish sensitive policies before | :35:58. | :35:59. | |
the general election. Campaigners say they're trying | :36:00. | :36:00. | |
to dodge a difficult issue because of nervousness | :36:01. | :36:02. | |
about increasing tax Tougher punishments for the most | :36:03. | :36:04. | |
serious cases of speeding have come into force in England | :36:05. | :36:07. | |
and Wales today. Drivers can now be fined one | :36:08. | :36:09. | |
and a half times their weekly that means driving over 50 miles | :36:10. | :36:13. | |
an hour in a 30 zone or That's a summary of the latest | :36:14. | :36:19. | |
news, join me for BBC Arsenal's Aaron Ramsey | :36:20. | :36:24. | |
says his team want to win the FA Cup for Arsene Wenger, | :36:25. | :36:33. | |
who's out of contract It'll be an all London final | :36:34. | :36:35. | |
between Arsenal and Chelsea They did it the hard way, | :36:36. | :36:39. | |
coming from behind to take the tie into extra time before | :36:40. | :36:43. | |
Alexis Sanchez scrambled in a winner N'Golo Kante has won | :36:44. | :36:46. | |
the Professional Footballers' Association Player | :36:47. | :36:49. | |
of the Year award. Tottenham's Dele Alli won | :36:50. | :36:54. | |
the young player prize 500 goals now for Lionel Messi | :36:55. | :36:56. | |
in a Barcelona shirt. His side blew the La Liga title race | :36:57. | :37:04. | |
wide open with a dramatic 3-2 victory in El Clasico at Real | :37:05. | :37:07. | |
Madrid. Messi scored the winner with 12 | :37:08. | :37:09. | |
seconds of stoppage time remaining And a club runner | :37:10. | :37:12. | |
with Swansea Harriers stunned Britain's elite men | :37:13. | :37:14. | |
at the London Marathon to qualify for the 2017 | :37:15. | :37:16. | |
World Championships in London. Josh Griffiths, who's 23, | :37:17. | :37:20. | |
finished in two hours, 14 minutes amd 49 seconds | :37:21. | :37:23. | |
on his marathon debut. More sport on the BBC News Channel | :37:24. | :37:41. | |
throughout the afternoon. He is a Conservative MP who tried to | :37:42. | :37:50. | |
derail legislation to protect women against violence. She is the leader | :37:51. | :37:53. | |
of a new party which campaigns on gender equality. Now they are going | :37:54. | :37:57. | |
head to head in the general election. Sophie Walker says she | :37:58. | :38:00. | |
will stand against Philip Davies in his seat of Shipley. What is it | :38:01. | :38:05. | |
about this man that makes you cross enough to stand against him? | :38:06. | :38:10. | |
I am standing for election in Shipley because I want to protect | :38:11. | :38:16. | |
jobs and pensions. But what is it about Philip Davies that means you | :38:17. | :38:20. | |
have gone to Shipley? Philip Davies has made the privilege of a local | :38:21. | :38:24. | |
MP's job into his own personal national platform to espouse | :38:25. | :38:31. | |
anti-women views. I am running in Shipley because there are a lot of | :38:32. | :38:38. | |
people in Shipley who are fed up with that job being used to do that | :38:39. | :38:41. | |
instead of the work for opportunities for all of the | :38:42. | :38:45. | |
constituents. I want to work for everybody and I want to balance the | :38:46. | :38:48. | |
way we do that. We are not just investing in physical infrastructure | :38:49. | :38:54. | |
like roads and bridges, but we are also investing in social | :38:55. | :38:55. | |
infrastructure jobs. Are you abusing the privilege | :38:56. | :39:04. | |
of being a constituency MP No, well, I've challenged Sophie | :39:05. | :39:06. | |
on a number of occasions to give one quote - | :39:07. | :39:12. | |
I've been an MP for 12 years - one quote from anything I've said | :39:13. | :39:15. | |
publicly, it's all on the record, where I've asked for women to be | :39:16. | :39:18. | |
treated less favourably than men. Let's give Sophie Walker | :39:19. | :39:21. | |
the opportunity. Well, setting aside the fact that | :39:22. | :39:25. | |
Philip consistently frames feminists as extremists rather | :39:26. | :39:27. | |
than campaigners for justice, you have to look at his actions, | :39:28. | :39:29. | |
which are that he attempted to talk out a bill to protect | :39:30. | :39:32. | |
survivors of violence. He took time out of his constituency | :39:33. | :39:34. | |
work to give a speech to a conference organised | :39:35. | :39:39. | |
by an outfit called Justice For Men And Boys, | :39:40. | :39:44. | |
whose website promotes articles like one entitled 13 | :39:45. | :39:46. | |
Reasons Women Lie About Rape. He also talked down a bill | :39:47. | :39:50. | |
which would have provided free He has written to the Equality | :39:51. | :39:52. | |
and Human Rights Commission, asking why it is offensive | :39:53. | :40:00. | |
for people to wear blackface. So it is your actions | :40:01. | :40:03. | |
that Sophie is... Well, at least we've clarified it's | :40:04. | :40:06. | |
nothing I've actually said that has ever asked for women to be treated | :40:07. | :40:09. | |
less favourably than men. All I have ever asked for, | :40:10. | :40:12. | |
the speeches that Sophie has taken great exception to, | :40:13. | :40:14. | |
were ones where I have actually asked that men and women | :40:15. | :40:17. | |
are treated exactly the same. That if you go before the court, | :40:18. | :40:19. | |
your gender should be irrelevant. Men and women should | :40:20. | :40:22. | |
be treated the same. But you did campaign | :40:23. | :40:24. | |
against the Combating Yes, exactly, and on the basis that | :40:25. | :40:26. | |
I thought the bill should apply equally to male and female | :40:27. | :40:33. | |
victims of violence. OK, is that not fair enough, | :40:34. | :40:35. | |
the bill should apply There is a very specific clause | :40:36. | :40:37. | |
in that bill that recognises that men and women experience violence | :40:38. | :40:41. | |
against them differently, It actually makes provision for | :40:42. | :40:43. | |
sufficient funding and protection Now, our party has got very specific | :40:44. | :40:46. | |
policies to protect funding to specialist services, | :40:47. | :40:54. | |
for example, services for men Whereas Philip's party is cutting | :40:55. | :40:56. | |
funding to those very important services and making it less likely | :40:57. | :41:02. | |
that many in those positions will I would have much more support | :41:03. | :41:05. | |
and understanding for what Philip is saying if he could back it up | :41:06. | :41:10. | |
with positive examples of positive, constructive legislation | :41:11. | :41:15. | |
that he has presented, rather than this very | :41:16. | :41:16. | |
negative demolishment Well, I mean, the clue | :41:17. | :41:18. | |
was in the bill. It was combating | :41:19. | :41:26. | |
violence against women. It's no good trying to rewrite | :41:27. | :41:29. | |
history and say that this bill It was called the Combating | :41:30. | :41:32. | |
Violence Aginst Women Bill. My view was, and I made it perfectly | :41:33. | :41:38. | |
clear that I would have happily supported the bill if it applied | :41:39. | :41:41. | |
to men and women equally, if you are a victim of crime, | :41:42. | :41:44. | |
it should not matter Why didn't you introduce the | :41:45. | :41:47. | |
Combating Violence Against Men Bill, Well, it is Private Members' | :41:48. | :41:50. | |
Bills, done by ballot. You can't just come along | :41:51. | :41:54. | |
with your Private Members' Bill. In my speech on the bill, I said, | :41:55. | :41:56. | |
let's bring forward a bill, we could have amended the bill | :41:57. | :42:03. | |
to say, let's have it And so, surely the Women's Equality | :42:04. | :42:05. | |
Party, if they believe in equality, should be supporting my stance | :42:06. | :42:09. | |
on saying that we should treat But the outcome of your actions | :42:10. | :42:12. | |
means that you ended up campaigning against a bill | :42:13. | :42:16. | |
which would protect women. Well, it was not going | :42:17. | :42:18. | |
to protect any women. It will not do one thing | :42:19. | :42:20. | |
to protect a woman. I've argued that what we should do | :42:21. | :42:25. | |
is actually have the men who commit domestic violence serve the whole | :42:26. | :42:28. | |
sentence they are given in prison, not let them out halfway through | :42:29. | :42:31. | |
even if they are still a danger. That would be much more useful | :42:32. | :42:34. | |
to victims of violence, and let me One thing I campaign | :42:35. | :42:37. | |
on and I helped Baroness Cox, who is a crossbench human rights | :42:38. | :42:40. | |
peer, about sharia councils, which I went to a meeting that | :42:41. | :42:43. | |
Baroness Cox organised where three very brave women actually | :42:44. | :42:47. | |
gave their testimonies as to how badly they have been | :42:48. | :42:49. | |
treated at sharia councils. I campaigned to end | :42:50. | :42:51. | |
sharia councils... The Women's Equality Party have | :42:52. | :42:53. | |
nothing to say on sharia councils. These are actions that would suggest | :42:54. | :42:58. | |
that Philip Davies is not OK, so on sharia specifically, | :42:59. | :43:02. | |
we have been very clear at the Women's Equality Party | :43:03. | :43:06. | |
that we think there is one form of law in Britain, | :43:07. | :43:08. | |
and that is British law. Sure, but I'm asking | :43:09. | :43:11. | |
you about his actions when it comes But I think it is contradictory | :43:12. | :43:13. | |
to say that you are supporting the discriminatory, rather, | :43:14. | :43:22. | |
you're combating the discriminatory actions of sharia councils and yet | :43:23. | :43:24. | |
voting against a law, the bill we have been talking about, | :43:25. | :43:26. | |
which has specific provisions in it to provide for survivors | :43:27. | :43:29. | |
of honour-based violence So on the one hand, he is saying one | :43:30. | :43:31. | |
thing, and on the other, That bill was only about | :43:32. | :43:36. | |
one particular gender. Clause 2.2 specifically referred | :43:37. | :43:43. | |
to the different kinds of violence. It was called the Combating | :43:44. | :43:45. | |
Violence Against Women Bill. If what you wanted to do | :43:46. | :43:47. | |
was change the title, then why didn't you just | :43:48. | :43:51. | |
focus on that? I did try and focus on that, | :43:52. | :43:53. | |
but no one was interested All of these things should apply | :43:54. | :43:56. | |
equally to men and women. That is all I have ever argued for, | :43:57. | :44:00. | |
whether it is sharia councils, which discriminate against women, | :44:01. | :44:03. | |
or this legislation, I will campaign for equality, | :44:04. | :44:05. | |
irrespective of people's gender. It depends on what you | :44:06. | :44:10. | |
mean by a feminist. If feminism is about gender | :44:11. | :44:15. | |
equality, then yes, I would support feminism but what my point is, | :44:16. | :44:21. | |
that what we are getting with feminism at the moment | :44:22. | :44:24. | |
is that they want to campaign on areas where women | :44:25. | :44:27. | |
are disadvantaged, perfectly reasonably, and I will support | :44:28. | :44:29. | |
them in that. But they don't want to say anything | :44:30. | :44:31. | |
where men are disadvantaged and as far as I'm concerned, | :44:32. | :44:34. | |
we should be equally If the definition is that it's about | :44:35. | :44:36. | |
gender equality, then yes I am. Well, it's about the advocacy | :44:37. | :44:41. | |
of women's rights. Well, if it's about equality, | :44:42. | :44:47. | |
I'm interested in equality. That's what I think, that men | :44:48. | :44:49. | |
and women should be treated... The advocacy of women's | :44:50. | :44:52. | |
rights on the grounds Yes, I agree with the | :44:53. | :44:54. | |
quality of the sexes. Well, on that definition, | :44:55. | :44:57. | |
yes, of course I am. I'm delighted that 24 hours | :44:58. | :45:01. | |
after I entered this race, Philip Davies is declaring | :45:02. | :45:04. | |
himself a feminist. And you'll be able to find a full | :45:05. | :45:06. | |
list of the candidates standing in Shipley on the BBC website once | :45:07. | :45:10. | |
the other parties have announced. Police in Manchester have arrested | :45:11. | :45:14. | |
a 21-year-old man in connection with the murder of a former | :45:15. | :45:17. | |
Royal Navy officer at his home We can speak to correspondent | :45:18. | :45:20. | |
Dave Guest, who is there. Tell us what you know | :45:21. | :45:24. | |
about happened to Mike Samwell. Well, it was the early hours of | :45:25. | :45:39. | |
yesterday morning that Mike, who was 35, awoke to a loud banging noise. | :45:40. | :45:43. | |
He went to investigate and a short time later he was found with severe | :45:44. | :45:48. | |
injuries in this parking area beyond the tapes down there. Now, it | :45:49. | :45:52. | |
appears that someone had been attempting to steal his Audi car and | :45:53. | :45:57. | |
had run over him in that car causing him serious injuries from which he | :45:58. | :46:02. | |
sadly died. Now, of course, this is a quiet residential street. It was | :46:03. | :46:07. | |
the early hours of the morning. It is everybody's worst nightmare what | :46:08. | :46:10. | |
happened to this man and his family are in a deep state of shock. And | :46:11. | :46:14. | |
that's the reaction of people who live locally as well? That's right, | :46:15. | :46:19. | |
yes. Yesterday around 50 people took part in a vigil. They walked from a | :46:20. | :46:23. | |
local church and came to the street here and laid flowers with messages | :46:24. | :46:27. | |
of sympathy for Mike and his family at the corner of the road here. | :46:28. | :46:31. | |
People have been shocked by what's happened. This is a cliche to say, | :46:32. | :46:37. | |
it is a quiet residential area. It is a reasonably well healed area. | :46:38. | :46:44. | |
The black Audi was found in a street not far from here, it has been the | :46:45. | :46:47. | |
subject of forensic investigation as has the parking area behind the | :46:48. | :46:51. | |
house where Mike lived. Police have described this, I think, as more | :46:52. | :46:57. | |
than criminal? Yes, yesterday they were really trying to appeal to the | :46:58. | :47:01. | |
criminal fraternity to say look there is a line that's been crossed | :47:02. | :47:04. | |
here. A man woken from his bed, in the early hours of the morning, goes | :47:05. | :47:08. | |
downstairs as anybody might do to see what is happening and ends up | :47:09. | :47:11. | |
dead in the most terrible of circumstances. The police officer in | :47:12. | :47:15. | |
charge of this case has said that basically the advice to people is if | :47:16. | :47:19. | |
you hear a noise downstairs, you shouldn't really go and investigate, | :47:20. | :47:22. | |
you should stay upstairs and barricade yourself into your bedroom | :47:23. | :47:25. | |
and dial 999, but the investigating officer said he could understand why | :47:26. | :47:28. | |
somebody like Mike would want to go and investigate halfs going on. | :47:29. | :47:34. | |
Mike, as we say, a retired naval officer who was working for a | :47:35. | :47:38. | |
company, an engineering company in Warrington and his colleagues there | :47:39. | :47:42. | |
are shocked. The police investigation into this crime is | :47:43. | :47:45. | |
still very much on going. The 21-year-old man arrested on | :47:46. | :47:47. | |
suspicion of murder continuing to be questioned this morning. Dave Guest, | :47:48. | :47:51. | |
reporting live from Manchester, thank you. | :47:52. | :47:54. | |
Several charities have told this programme they want social care | :47:55. | :47:56. | |
to be a top election issue over the next few weeks. | :47:57. | :47:59. | |
This morning we've been hearing from those of you who care full | :48:00. | :48:03. | |
Rory says he has been a full-time carer for the last 20 years. | :48:04. | :48:17. | |
, "My day consists of her caring for her 24/7. I don't go out. I haven't | :48:18. | :48:22. | |
had a holiday in decades. I have no life of my own. I'm 48 years of | :48:23. | :48:27. | |
abling and I spend every spare minute sitting obthe sofa looking | :48:28. | :48:31. | |
out of the window watching the world go by. I'm wishing I would die | :48:32. | :48:35. | |
quickly instead of this long drawn out death of boredom and | :48:36. | :48:38. | |
loneliness." Heather says, "I care for my mum. | :48:39. | :48:43. | |
I'm permanently tired. I have low self esteem. I have lost friends and | :48:44. | :48:45. | |
a relationship is out of the question. I have realised that I | :48:46. | :48:49. | |
cannot go on as I'm becoming ill. I don't eat. I can't sleep. I've done | :48:50. | :48:54. | |
this for five years with no thanks and a whole load of stress. Someone | :48:55. | :48:59. | |
else can have a go rather than criticise me." Dave, "I did this job | :49:00. | :49:04. | |
for my mum for five years. It destroys your life. Even though you | :49:05. | :49:07. | |
try your best to do a job that no one else wants to do. There is no | :49:08. | :49:11. | |
real help out there as the care Stel seems to be broken beyond repair. I | :49:12. | :49:15. | |
really thought it was just me who was going through this. So I started | :49:16. | :49:20. | |
recording and videoing most phone calls and visits. Most phone calls, | :49:21. | :49:26. | |
but I was still alone. I'm trying to get a carer to come and help, trying | :49:27. | :49:31. | |
to get anyone to help you is impossible from adult social | :49:32. | :49:33. | |
services, the NHS, to charities." Our reporter James Longman met | :49:34. | :49:42. | |
Sue Jenkins who's effectively given up her life to care for her mother | :49:43. | :49:44. | |
Patricia, who is 88 and needs She has dementia, is doubly | :49:45. | :49:48. | |
incontinent and uses a wheelchair. We played you the full report | :49:49. | :49:51. | |
earlier - here's a short extract. Let's get mummy changed | :49:52. | :49:54. | |
before she has a She has a lot of changing | :49:55. | :50:20. | |
behaviour, screaming, Yes, she does, and that | :50:21. | :50:27. | |
can't be helped. It's heartbreaking, and it can make | :50:28. | :50:32. | |
you feel useless and that can make you want to run for the hills | :50:33. | :50:38. | |
and just run into the night. But I take care of my | :50:39. | :50:41. | |
mother, and that's it. You know, the person I dearly love | :50:42. | :51:01. | |
and dearly want to talk to about so many things | :51:02. | :51:22. | |
has left me already. And the thought of losing her fills | :51:23. | :51:30. | |
me with complete dread, We can speak to Margaret Dangoor | :51:31. | :51:33. | |
who has been a carer for her husband Eddie who has Alzheimer's | :51:34. | :51:50. | |
for the last ten years. Kate White, whose husband John | :51:51. | :51:53. | |
also has Alzheimer's. She's been his carer since | :51:54. | :51:55. | |
he was diagnosed eight years ago. Rob Burley from the | :51:56. | :51:58. | |
Alzheimer's Society - one the charities calling for social | :51:59. | :52:00. | |
care to be a key issue Welcome all of you. Thank you very | :52:01. | :52:11. | |
much for coming on the programme. Presumably Margaret and Kate you can | :52:12. | :52:14. | |
relate to much of what Sue was saying? Yes, it's heart-rending | :52:15. | :52:18. | |
really to see that sort of situation. It's different for all of | :52:19. | :52:23. | |
us. Every carer is different and every person with dementia is | :52:24. | :52:26. | |
different, but this sort of situation is not unusual. What about | :52:27. | :52:31. | |
you, Kate? Yes, I would agree with Margaret. I think it takes such a | :52:32. | :52:37. | |
toll on people's lives and often they don't know about the kind of | :52:38. | :52:40. | |
support and care that might be there, but what is there is being | :52:41. | :52:47. | |
reduced all the time and I think as Margaret was saying everybody both | :52:48. | :52:51. | |
the person with the condition and their carer are different. So the | :52:52. | :52:54. | |
scenario is some, that we're familiar with, but there are | :52:55. | :52:58. | |
different scenarios as well. Tell us, tell our audience about the | :52:59. | :53:02. | |
impact on you of caring for your husband? Mine is different. I think | :53:03. | :53:06. | |
in comparison with the situation on film. My husband has always been | :53:07. | :53:11. | |
content within his dementia. So... Content? Yes. He has settled into | :53:12. | :53:18. | |
the process if you like comfortably and as long as he is cared for well, | :53:19. | :53:24. | |
and he is in the right surroundings, that makes my caring role a lot | :53:25. | :53:29. | |
easier and also in comparison with the film, we are very fortunate that | :53:30. | :53:34. | |
we have a specialist dementia centre in our locality and he has been | :53:35. | :53:38. | |
going there for many years since 2008. These centres are not | :53:39. | :53:42. | |
fashionable, but for some people, to me, I don't think pedestrian would | :53:43. | :53:46. | |
be alive today, he is in the very advanced stage, if he didn't have | :53:47. | :53:50. | |
the stimulation of going to that seb ter. Other people to mix with and | :53:51. | :53:54. | |
the activities that he's involved with, it really sort of lifts hill | :53:55. | :54:00. | |
up. Yes. Kate, the I will pact on you of looking after your husband? I | :54:01. | :54:03. | |
think I relate to the exhaustion because I think it is a full-on 24/7 | :54:04. | :54:09. | |
and there are three eight hour shifts a day. Wow. When you put it | :54:10. | :54:15. | |
like that. Do you mind me asking how old you are? I'm 6. How old is your | :54:16. | :54:24. | |
husband? He's 83. He's not inned advanced stages of Margaret or the | :54:25. | :54:28. | |
person on the film. He's active and he's out and about and doing thicks, | :54:29. | :54:32. | |
but he has to have somebody with him all the tilement he gets very | :54:33. | :54:36. | |
anxious and I see that as his need for attachment and safety that | :54:37. | :54:39. | |
emotionally he needs somebody to help him see where he is in the | :54:40. | :54:42. | |
world because he gets disorientated. Yes. Let me bring in Rob. When Kate | :54:43. | :54:50. | |
puts it like that, it is three eight hour shifts effective by every day? | :54:51. | :54:53. | |
By the end of the next Parliament there will be one million people | :54:54. | :54:57. | |
living with dementia, it is time the next Government steps up to that | :54:58. | :55:00. | |
challenge of the at zileers society is launching a united against | :55:01. | :55:05. | |
Alzheimer's campaign and that's calling for everybody to understand | :55:06. | :55:08. | |
Alzheimer's better and take action to solve the What does that problem. | :55:09. | :55:13. | |
Mean? Fixing a system that isn't working for people with dimecsia. | :55:14. | :55:18. | |
Dementia crisis is a social care crisis. 60% of people use home care | :55:19. | :55:27. | |
Service. What's that? Someone will support someone with dementia and | :55:28. | :55:30. | |
support a carer. Why doesn't everyone get home care if they are | :55:31. | :55:34. | |
looking after a relative with dimecsia? There isn't enough funding | :55:35. | :55:40. | |
in the system and what we heard from Margaret and Kate, there is a | :55:41. | :55:43. | |
postcode Lottery and another challenge we want the next | :55:44. | :55:46. | |
Government to fix is how complex the system is. So having someone to good | :55:47. | :55:49. | |
families and people with dementia through the process would be | :55:50. | :55:52. | |
essential because we were talking in the green room and Margaret and Kate | :55:53. | :55:55. | |
had it teach their carers some of the things about the system because | :55:56. | :55:58. | |
they understand it, but not everyone is in that position. OK. So be | :55:59. | :56:03. | |
really cleared what you want parties to offer. It is more money to pay | :56:04. | :56:09. | |
for home carers to go in, to give respite to peel like Margaret and | :56:10. | :56:13. | |
Kate and Sue on our film and more services like the dementia centre | :56:14. | :56:17. | |
that you referenced Margaret? Better training as well. Only one in three | :56:18. | :56:22. | |
home care workers has any dementia training. Do you have a figure of | :56:23. | :56:25. | |
how much more money political parties should be promising in their | :56:26. | :56:30. | |
manifestos to put into social care? Well, the cost of care for dementia | :56:31. | :56:35. | |
?17 billion is falling on people with dementia themselves. ?17 | :56:36. | :56:38. | |
billion a year? That's right. That's falling on carers and their families | :56:39. | :56:43. | |
Exactly right. ?17 million. How have you got to that figure? The cost to | :56:44. | :56:50. | |
the UK is over ?26 billion and ?17 billion falls on people themselves | :56:51. | :56:53. | |
in terms of the care they have to providement if you get a 15 minute | :56:54. | :56:58. | |
care visit a day, the rest of the day, I think, the point about the | :56:59. | :57:01. | |
three eight hour shifts. There is no party going to be suggesting ?17 | :57:02. | :57:07. | |
billion a year so, what are you saying? The key thing is better | :57:08. | :57:12. | |
training for staff involved, support through the system, as soon as | :57:13. | :57:15. | |
someone is diagnosed with dementia, being told what the system is and | :57:16. | :57:18. | |
how they can navigate the system. How much would that cost? That's | :57:19. | :57:22. | |
essential. We want to work with whoever is next in power to put | :57:23. | :57:27. | |
people with dementia at the heart of the debate and listen to people like | :57:28. | :57:34. | |
Margaret and Kate and Sue on the film. It is a huge issue, isn't it? | :57:35. | :57:39. | |
Yes. That you have, Rob. Margaret, thank you very much for | :57:40. | :57:43. | |
coming in. We wish you all the best. Kate, thank you very much as well. | :57:44. | :57:44. | |
Thank you very much. Last month 21-year-old James Casling | :57:45. | :57:47. | |
moved so many of you to tears when he told us that football | :57:48. | :57:50. | |
saved his life. Since that interview we've taken him | :57:51. | :57:53. | |
to train with QPR s first team and you can find out how we gets | :57:54. | :58:00. | |
on on the programme tomorrow. I would like to thank the many of | :58:01. | :58:13. | |
you who have got this touch today to tell us that you are a carer. I have | :58:14. | :58:18. | |
read so many of your comments. Let me read this from a viewer, "These | :58:19. | :58:24. | |
carers are real heroes who save the Government billions every year and | :58:25. | :58:27. | |
yet have their own lives turned up side down." Thank you for your | :58:28. | :58:30. | |
company today. We're back tomorrow at 9am. Have a good day. | :58:31. | :58:43. | |
Bold bottom Hello. Good morning to you. Yes, that's a wintry mix and it | :58:44. | :58:45. |