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Hello it's Monday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

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An investigation by this programme discovers more than a thousand

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mistakes are recorded by maternity staff in hospitals

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I'm angry and I'm always going to be angry because they've taken my son's

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life away from him. There's no reason why he shouldn't be with us

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today and I have to look at that for the rest of my life. Everyday I have

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to live with the fact that I am a of the NHS.

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We'll bring you the full story in the next half hour.

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He's 39, the youngest leader France has ever had -

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and only formed his new party a year ago.

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I'm really happy because Emmanuel Macron is a good solution, a good

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choice, in France, we love Europe. I'm very happy about this result. It

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means on buttons, he means the future, France is not dead, France

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is not an old country dying, France has hope.

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We'll tell you what his victory means for us in the UK.

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And - these are some of the 82 freed Chibok schoogirls who've been

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released by Boko Haram Islamist militants in Nigeria.

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We'll bring you their story before 11.

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Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11.

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This morning let us know you're experience of giving birth

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in a maternity unit - and also your experience

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Our excluisve investigation on errors recorded in maternity

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Use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and if you text, you will be charged

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France's new President-elect, Emmanuel Macron, has promised

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to heal the country's divisions, following his resounding

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victory over the far-right leader, Marine Le Pen.

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The pro-European candidate secured 66 percent of the vote

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in yesterday's election and at just 39, he will

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become the country's youngest ever President.

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Addressing thousands of supporters in Paris last night,

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he said he respected those who backed Ms Le Pen,

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Our Europe Correspondent, Damian Grammaticas was at

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the Macron Rally and has this report.

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This is an election victory that will reverberate across Europe.

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Emmanuel Macron, liberal, pro-EU, who supports

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globalisation and immigration - France's next president.

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Mr Macron created his political movement just a year ago to give

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French voters tired of traditional parties a new choice -

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not at the extremes, but in the middle.

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TRANSLATION: What we've done for so many months,

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there's no comparison, there's no equivalent to that.

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Everybody was saying to us it was impossible.

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But they didn't know anything about France!

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His opponent, the far-right anti-EU Marine Le Pen, was soundly beaten.

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She did, though, secure 11 million votes, a third of those cast.

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And she said the fact that she made it to the run-off meant

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that her party should now be seen as the official

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But Mr Macron's vision is a repudiation of populist,

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anti-establishment wave that brought Brexit and Donald Trump,

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and which Marine Le Pen sought to harness, too.

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Above all, this is a victory for Europe's centrists,

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and a defeat for Europe's populists and Eurosceptics.

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Mr Macron has already said he will work to strengthen the EU,

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and EU leaders have rushed to congratulate him.

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They see Mr Macron giving the EU new impetus.

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So this win means the UK is about to negotiate Brexit facing

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an EU starting to feel confident that the populist

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Let's go to Paris and our correspondent Hugh Schofield is

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there. What does this new President -- presidency mean to the UK and its

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Brexit negotiations. Two things to say, the 1st, he will be seen as a

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good thing by the British government because he is generally pro-

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British, he speaks English, he knows the city, a former banker, his

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instincts are free market, all of these things are good buttons to

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press as far as London is concerned. The other side of the coin is that

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he's firmly pro- European and his 1st instinct is going to be to patch

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up the Franco German relationship and try to re-establish that as the

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core of Europe and to make Europe a functioning, effective dynamic

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organisation. And in that sense, and in that context, his furry opposed

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to Brexit which he has said is a big mistake and he will not want to lend

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any hostages to fortune by being too generous to Britain on the way out.

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There are two sites to the coin and there is a 3rd aspect as well, I

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would say. From a British perspective, Europe with the

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election of Macron feels more confident, there is a sense of the

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crisis is past, the populist wave has reached its crest and so on,

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arguably it is it is with a more confident Europe, less worried about

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setting a dangerous precedent for other countries, with that kind of

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Europe, a more favourable deal, a better atmosphere at least can be

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created in the negotiations ahead. Thank you. Hugh Schofield from

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Paris. Joanna is in the BBC

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Newsroom with a summary The BBC understands

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the Conservatives will once again commit to cutting net migration

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to the "tens of thousands" Yesterday the Home Secretary,

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Amber Rudd, refused to say whether the pledge -

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which was also in the party's 2010 and 2015 manifestos -

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would be repeated. Meanwhile, UKIP says it

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would cut net migration Also in the election campaign -

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a ban on television adverts for unhealthy food and sweets before

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the nine o'clock watershed, It's part of a strategy

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to tackle childhood obesity. The Conservatives say Britain's

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advertising rules are already Our Political Correspondent,

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Leila Nathoo, has all the details. Tempting treats - difficult

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for children to resist. Bringing down high rates

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of childhood obesity has long been Now Labour says it would tackle

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the problem by banning junk food ads The party says in government,

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it would stop adverts for unhealthy foods -

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high in salt, sugar, or fat - It says that it would hope

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to halve childhood obesity And it is promising

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a new ?250 million annual fund The government has already announced

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a tax on sugary drinks, and, in a strategy outlined last summer,

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a voluntary target for the food and drinks industry

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to reduce sugar content - but health campaigners say

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the measures don't go far enough. The Conservatives have accused

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Labour of making unfunded promises, and said that their plan to cut

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childhood obesity was ambitious. This programme understands that

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an NHS Trust facing a review into maternity errors has paid out

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millions of pounds in compensation after similar mistakes led to babies

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being born with brain injuries. Freedom of Information figures

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obtained by the Victoria Derbyshire Programme found that at least five

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babies died at the Shrewsbury and Telford Hospital Trust

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after problems monitoring Figures also reveal an average

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of more than one thousand four hundred mistakes a week

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being recorded in England's NHS maternity units

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between 2013 and 2016. We'll have more on this

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later on the programme. The head of the terror group

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Islamic State in Afghanistan has been killed in a raid carried out

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by Afghan and US forces. Military officials at the Pentagon

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say Abdul Hasib died during a raid by special forces in the Eastern

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part of the country. Two US army rangers were also killed

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during the operation. North Korea says it's detained

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a FOURTH American citizen on suspicion of hostile acts

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against the state. Kim Hak Song is understood to have

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worked for the Pyongyang University of Science and Technology

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and was detained on Saturday. No details of any alleged

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offences was given. A 2 year old girl is being treated

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in hospital after suffering serious injuries to her head and body

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in what's been described Police say several animals managed

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to get into the garden where she was playing in the Toxteth

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area of Liverpool. Ten dogs have been seized

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from a nearby house and a man living The bodies of two men have been

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recovered during a search of the Irish Sea after a speedboat

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disappeared off South West Police said the men

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were aged 46 and 35, and had launched their speedboat

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from Port Logan in The group representing hospitals

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and other NHS trusts in England has called for an end to the cap

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on pay rises. NHS Providers says the government's

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policy of pay restraint over the last 7 years is preventing

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employers from retaining the staff needed to deliver

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safe patient care. We need to fund the NHS properly so

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that we are not asking our staff to try and close the gap between the

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demand going through the roof and the funding staying broadly stable

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and that the way we are trying to close the gap is by asking staff to

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do more and more and more and that means their jobs are becoming more

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difficult, stressful, pressured. And in the next hour

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Victoria Derbyshire will be looking at how concern about the NHS

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is affecting voters Facebook has placed adverts

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in national newspapers to provide advice about how to spot

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fake news online. The initiative has been

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designed to stop the spread of false stories during

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the general election campaign. The company advises users to be

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sceptical of headlines and to cross check reports. The move comes after

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it was accused of helping to spread fake news during the US presidential

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election last year. Kerry has textured, she works in a

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maternity unit and she says maternity staff work hard, we have

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limited staff, equipment and time but we work hard, it would be nice

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if for once people said they do good work. Instead of being told we do

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things wrong all the time. This text doesn't wish us to identify them,

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giving birth within the NHS, excruciating, lonely, terrifying and

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humiliating. Passers-by included unknown men in the Corredera looking

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in at me. I wanted to die. Let's get some sport now

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and chat to Olly Foster. We'll start with football Olly

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and it was all about the race for A couple of teams saying yesterday

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who would love to say they are in with a chance of winning the title

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but it's about getting into the Champions League. The top four in

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the Champions League, we sought to Michael former champions at the

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Emirates stadium and Arsenal beating majesty united 2- 0.

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a Jose Mourinho team in the Premier League.

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The 13th time lucky for Arsene Wenger.

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Granit Xhaka and Danny Welbeck against his former club United made

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Jose Mourinho has written off a top four finish as a way

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to reach the Champions League...resting players.

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He knows the best way to get into the Champions League is by winning

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the Europa League, they are halfway through their semifinal at the

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moment. And this was his rather patronising

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parting shot to the Arsenal. We want to try and win the Europa

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League. More important for us than finishing 4th. We really want to try

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to win it and go to the Champions League through winning a big trophy.

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So we needed to give rest to players, ask what is here... That

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wasn't a patronising parting shot at all, he had a pop at Arsenal. This

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is the Liverpool game. Liverpool are up to third after just

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a point against Southampton, mostly down to that great save from

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the Saints Fraser Forster Liverpool should have done enough

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for Champions League football but can finish no higher than third

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now This could be the week that

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Chelsea win the title, because they play Middlesbrough

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tonight and then West Brom on Friday, win both and they can't

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by caught and if they do win tonight then Middlesbrough

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will be relegated. They will join Sunderland in the

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Championships next season. The championship season was wrapped up

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yesterday. They've been struggling for

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a while now in the Championship.. Remember those heady

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days Champions in 1995. The great team spearheaded

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by Alan Shearer and Chris Sutton. But was the captain Tim Sherwood.

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Heady days. This was yesterday. Relegated, classic nailbiter on the

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final day of the championship, always going to have a big club go

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down, Birmingham City, Nottingham Forest, or Blackburn Rovers, all

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former Premier League sites, all of them won yesterday, Blackburn

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winning 3- 1 against Bradford not enough, they go down to League 1 on

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goal difference, that group that bought Rover is massively unpopular,

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important summer coming up for Rovers and wrapping up as Ms in the

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championship, Newcastle winning the title yesterday, Brighton go up in

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2nd place, Reading, Fulham and Huddersfield and Sheffield Wednesday

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in the all-important play-offs. By Malaysian tennis, some needle

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between two players in the Madrid open. Maria Sharapova former grand

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slam champion, back on tour for a fewer week after a 15 month drug

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ban, a lot of players don't like the fact she is then handed wild cards

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to get back into tournament is to get ranking points. She's playing in

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Madrid, won yesterday in 3 sets against a player, setting up a

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2nd-round against Eugenie Bouchard, who has called Maria Sharapova a

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cheater, says she should be banned for life, Maria Sharapova says she's

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heard an awful lot worse and she is a win away from getting away into

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Wimbledon qualifying, breaking into the top 200 if she wins today. Thank

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you. An investigation by this programme

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has discovered at least 1,000 mistakes are made in England's NHS

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maternity units every week. The most serious incidents include

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the avoidable deaths of mothers and babies as a result of errors

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by midwives and doctors. The Royal College of Midwives says

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maternity services are heading towards a crisis because of demands

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on the services. Our reporter Divya Talwar

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has been to meet some As an expectant parent,

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you're excited to become I'm angry, and I'm always

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going to be angry, because they've There is no reason why he shouldn't

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have been here with us today, and I have to live with that

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for the rest of my life. Every day I have to live

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with the fact that I am You think you can trust these

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people, and you are meant to, There were six hours

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that my son suffered, and there were four opportunities

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that were missed to save his life. When I found out I was pregnant

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almost eight months ago, I did a lot of research looking

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into the hospitals around me to try and find the best

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place to have this baby. But all of the maternity units

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in my area were either inadequate So I had to find a place outside

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of my local area, which isn't ideal, but at least the maternity services

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are meant to be a bit better Other mums-to-be may also find

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themselves in a similar situation, with around one in three maternity

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services in England rated "inadequate" or "requiring

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improvement" by the regulator. Last month it was discovered that

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at least seven babies had died in avoidable circumstances in less

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than two years at Shrewsbury It led England's Health

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Secretary Jeremy Hunt to order an investigation,

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and the Trust has since paid out millions in compensation

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after similar mistakes led to babies But we've found that in other

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maternity units across England there are also cases where serious

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mistakes are being made. This is Jade Penney,

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she's 26 and a single Lucas has got cerebral palsy,

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which means he can't walk, talk, Jade's lawyers argue

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that Lucas' brain damage is due to a lack of oxygen

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when he had his incubation The NHS Trust is

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defending the claim. When did you find out that

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something wasn't quite right? Pretty much straight away,

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but we didn't know this obviously for a long time,

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so a couple of days So, he was born on the fifth,

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and on the seventh they were re-tubing Lucas,

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so they had re-tubed him in the morning without any problems

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at all, and then they re-tubed him As they re-tubed him,

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Lucas basically put up a fight, Altogether it took them 20

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minutes to re-tube Lucas. Imagine laying down and not

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being able to breathe, but you can't tell someone

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and you're awake. It must be the most horrible

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thing ever to go through, And I think that's just

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what upsets me the most. Jade's now taking legal action

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against the NHS Trust. Yeah, emotionally it

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plays on you a lot. It plays on me a lot when we're out

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and I see kids his age, that's when I think it really

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gets to me. Take, for instance, if I've gone

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to the park with Lucas before and I've seen kids his age,

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they'll kind of avoid Luke, not because they're being horrible

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but there's not that much known to kids when they're

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younger about disabilities, Sometimes they'll look at him

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and they get a bit scared and they won't go up to him,

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and all Lucas wants to do What's the hardest

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aspect of all this? Knowing that he's got this

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for the rest of his life. Because not only does it affect me,

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it's affecting his life, Yeah, he's still alive,

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but he hasn't got the quality-of-life other children

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without disabilities his age have, And he knows himself

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when he sees kids running around that he can't do that,

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so it impacts him as well And it's not his fault,

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and that's what's horrible. He is like the innocent party

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in all of it, you know? An investigation by this programme

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has found that at least 1000 mistakes are occurring in England's

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NHS maternity units each week. Serious or adverse incidents

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where an unexpected harm, It could be anything

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from records being lost Last year alone, there were 220

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mistakes recorded every day. We've also found that nearly

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260 mothers or babies These deaths were either unexpected

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or could have been avoided. Only 39 out of 81 Trusts

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responded to this question, so the number of deaths

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could be much higher. Some of the other incidents we've

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heard about include staff shortages, wrong medicines being given

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to patients, records being lost, It's those delays in care that

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can be the difference Sarah Ellis and her fiance Adam

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lost their baby in 2014. When I first fell pregnant,

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everything was amazing, wasn't it? Couldn't wait to take him

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to the football with me, and be a Huddersfield Town fan

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like his dad. Sarah was left waiting for hours

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on a busy maternity ward, despite telling staff

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that she couldn't feel her baby moving, and there were warning

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signs of infection. They just told us, well,

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they just reassured us, didn't they? Everything, you know,

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"Everything's OK." When a qualified midwife says

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to you, "It could be that, maybe, possibly, we're not sure", I wasn't

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really concerned because if there was anything alarming they would be

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doing something more. The inquest later showed Sarah

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should have had an emergency Medical staff failed

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to act on warning signs, and their son Gino was severely

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starved of oxygen. One of the doctors that was there

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pulled me to one side and just said, "He's not in a good condition,

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he was born in a really bad condition and if he does pull

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through, he's going to be I was in the corridor

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and I was with her mum and dad and I just said to her mum and dad,

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I said... I said, "How am I going to tell

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Sarah that he's not all right?" Gino was placed on a life support

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machine, but just days later Sarah and Adam were advised

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to withdraw treatment. The words that were used

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was he was "unrecoverable". That was when we knew he wasn't

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going to get any better. We had to make a joint

:24:08.:24:10.

decision, yeah. We had to make a decision

:24:11.:24:18.

for him that, you know, It's a conversation you never think

:24:19.:24:21.

you're going to have to have, is it? How do you discuss how you're

:24:22.:24:27.

going to end your son's life? The couple decided

:24:28.:24:36.

to take legal action. A coroner's report found

:24:37.:24:38.

the hospital missed four Everybody makes mistakes, I do,

:24:39.:24:43.

we all do, but to see so many people make so many different mistakes

:24:44.:24:53.

within six hours is just shocking. People who you put your trust in,

:24:54.:25:00.

your life is in their hands, and Gino's life was in their hands

:25:01.:25:03.

and they didn't take care of him. Every single day

:25:04.:25:09.

I think, why, why us? We have to live with the fact

:25:10.:25:13.

that we are a victim of the NHS. So many babies have lost

:25:14.:25:17.

their lives, and so many families have been destroyed because they're

:25:18.:25:20.

not doing their job right. Sarah and Adam got

:25:21.:25:25.

compensation from the Trust. The NHS spends hundreds

:25:26.:25:31.

of millions on compensation pay-outs for blunders made

:25:32.:25:33.

by maternity staff. In 2015 it paid out

:25:34.:25:52.

more than ?0.5 billion. Reviews into England's

:25:53.:25:54.

maternity services have found So I've got just over three weeks

:25:55.:25:57.

before this baby's due, and I had my latest check-up

:25:58.:26:01.

with the midwife earlier today. Over the course of this pregnancy

:26:02.:26:03.

I've been seen by different midwives at almost every appointment I've

:26:04.:26:06.

had, and at times I've had to wait The Royal College of Midwives said

:26:07.:26:09.

safety is being compromised because of the pressure our

:26:10.:26:14.

maternity services are under. It's my view that we're

:26:15.:26:16.

heading for a crisis The simple truth is,

:26:17.:26:18.

we do not have enough midwives We're also seeing more midwives

:26:19.:26:21.

heading for retirement, we're seeing more midwives leaving

:26:22.:26:24.

the profession because of stress, and we're seeing a slight

:26:25.:26:27.

reduction in the number Alongside that, we've got much more

:26:28.:26:29.

complexity in pregnancy, which takes more care,

:26:30.:26:37.

and we've got an increasing number So if you put all that together,

:26:38.:26:40.

as opposed to only having one of these things going on,

:26:41.:26:47.

we would say that's looking What do you think needs to be done

:26:48.:26:50.

to make our maternity units safer? We need to reduce the number

:26:51.:26:58.

of mistakes in our maternity And if we're going to do that,

:26:59.:27:02.

our maternity services have We can't deliver the safest possible

:27:03.:27:07.

care if we don't have enough midwives and enough doctors working

:27:08.:27:13.

in our services. There's going to be lots of us doing

:27:14.:27:23.

lots of things all at the same time, Libby is having excessive

:27:24.:27:34.

bleeding from a haemorrhage What I'm going to do is just pop

:27:35.:27:37.

a drip in the other side... This is a training exercise

:27:38.:27:43.

here at Bristol Southmead Hospital. Libby's actually one of the doctors

:27:44.:27:45.

at the hospital's maternity ward. I think we can call that a wrap,

:27:46.:27:48.

as we say, and we'll just I think Libby stole

:27:49.:27:52.

the show, very good acting! The hospital's pioneered this

:27:53.:27:56.

training, known as PROMPT, where midwives, doctors and other

:27:57.:28:01.

staff train together and simulate emergencies they may face

:28:02.:28:04.

on their maternity wards. Everything else was very

:28:05.:28:08.

clinically done in a very The Health Secretary's announced

:28:09.:28:10.

a number of measures to improve the safety of maternity care

:28:11.:28:14.

in the NHS. They include more money

:28:15.:28:17.

for training courses like this, and a fund to pilot new ideas

:28:18.:28:20.

for improving maternity. For Sarah and Adam, the mistakes

:28:21.:28:23.

leading to Gino's death have left We do want more family,

:28:24.:28:26.

but when that time comes I really Where do we go?

:28:27.:28:33.

Who do we trust? We went in with a baby seat and came

:28:34.:28:39.

out with a death certificate. You think you can trust these

:28:40.:28:43.

people, and you are meant to, For the rest of my life

:28:44.:28:46.

I'm going to be angry, and I'll never, ever forgive anyone

:28:47.:28:52.

for that, you know? And I know there are mistakes out

:28:53.:28:54.

there, but you can't make mistakes with little babies'

:28:55.:28:57.

lives, you know? You may have noticed a different

:28:58.:28:59.

voice in that report and that's because Divya gave birth to a baby

:29:00.:29:15.

girl before completing the film. Texter says working in maternity can

:29:16.:29:28.

be amazing. We strive to give our women and babies the best possible

:29:29.:29:32.

care. However, poor senior management and ridiculous computer

:29:33.:29:36.

systems are taking away from this and making the environment unsafe

:29:37.:29:40.

for users. Staff are leaving in droves meaning the remaining workers

:29:41.:29:44.

are under an impossible workload with antenatal clinics stretched to

:29:45.:29:49.

bursting, labour care impossible with midwives caring for multiple

:29:50.:29:52.

women and documentation poorly designed making it dangerously easy

:29:53.:29:57.

for busy staff to miss information that can be vital for safe care.

:29:58.:30:03.

Lisa says, "The NHS midwifery team at Epsom Hospital were fantastic for

:30:04.:30:07.

the birth of my first baby 11 weeks ago. Brilliant care and fantastic

:30:08.:30:12.

facilities. I feel very lucky and incredibly grateful." Helen says, "I

:30:13.:30:17.

can't praise the NHS staff who looked after me and my baby enough.

:30:18.:30:24.

Everyone from healthcare and cleaning and catering staff was

:30:25.:30:28.

amazing. I received a comprehensive and personal service. They were

:30:29.:30:32.

fantastic. There maybe faults, but there are also some great examples

:30:33.:30:37.

of exemplary world-class services and staff." Keep those coming in. In

:30:38.:30:52.

a moment, we will talk to a father whose son died at just aged 9 days

:30:53.:30:55.

old. NHS Providers,

:30:56.:30:56.

the group representing health trusts and hospitals,

:30:57.:30:59.

say politicians must address rapidly growing concerns

:31:00.:31:01.

over the NHS workforce We hear from a group

:31:02.:31:03.

of NHS workers on this. More than 80 Nigerian schoolgirls

:31:04.:31:06.

were released yesterday after being held for three years

:31:07.:31:08.

by the Islamist group Boko Haram. And we'll speak to a father whose 2

:31:09.:31:19.

daughters are still being held by the group.

:31:20.:31:20.

Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:31:21.:31:23.

France's newly elected President, Emmanuel Macron, has promised

:31:24.:31:25.

to heal the country's divisions following his resounding

:31:26.:31:27.

victory over the far-right leader, Marine Le Pen,

:31:28.:31:29.

The pro-European candidate secured 66 percent of the vote

:31:30.:31:32.

and at just 39 years old, he will become the country's

:31:33.:31:35.

Speaking at a victory rally outside the Louvre museum in Paris,

:31:36.:31:38.

he said the task ahead was "immense" and made a plea for unity.

:31:39.:31:46.

TRANSLATION: Row TRANSLATION: I will respect and be faithful to the

:31:47.:31:57.

commitment taken, I will respect the Republic.

:31:58.:32:00.

The BBC understands the Conservatives will once again

:32:01.:32:02.

commit to cutting net migration to the "tens of thousands"

:32:03.:32:04.

Yesterday the Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, refused to say

:32:05.:32:09.

whether the pledge - which was also in the party's 2010

:32:10.:32:11.

and 2015 manifestos - would be repeated.

:32:12.:32:13.

Meanwhile, UKIP says it would cut net migration

:32:14.:32:15.

Staying with the election campaign - Labour says it would extend the ban

:32:16.:32:28.

on television adverts for unhealthy food and sweets until the nine

:32:29.:32:30.

The Conservatives say Britain already has the strictest

:32:31.:32:34.

But Labour says its strategy aims to halve the number of overweight

:32:35.:32:38.

The head of the terror group Islamic State in Afghanistan has

:32:39.:32:42.

been killed in a raid carried out by Afghan and US forces.

:32:43.:32:45.

Military officials at the Pentagon say Abdul Hasib died during a raid

:32:46.:32:48.

by special forces in the Eastern part of the country.

:32:49.:32:51.

Two US army rangers were also killed during the operation.

:32:52.:32:56.

Facebook has placed adverts in British newspapers to provide

:32:57.:32:58.

practical advice on how to spot fake news online.

:32:59.:33:01.

The website has also closed thousands of accounts linked

:33:02.:33:04.

to false stories ahead of the general election.

:33:05.:33:07.

The company advises users to "be sceptical of headlines"

:33:08.:33:10.

The move comes after it was accused of helping to spread fake news

:33:11.:33:15.

during last year's US Presidential election.

:33:16.:33:20.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.00.

:33:21.:33:24.

Here are the morning's sport headlines now with Olly Foster.

:33:25.:33:27.

These are our headlines this morning, Arsene Wenger

:33:28.:33:29.

saw his Arsenal side beat a Jose Mourinho team for the first

:33:30.:33:32.

They won 2-0 at the Emirates but remain in sixth, six points

:33:33.:33:40.

Former Premier League Champions Blackburn Rovers have been relegated

:33:41.:33:43.

to League One on the last day of the Championship.

:33:44.:33:46.

Newcastle won the title yesterday and Reading, Fulham,

:33:47.:33:48.

Huddersfield and Sheffield Wddnesday will contest the play-offs.

:33:49.:33:54.

And a fortnight after returning from a 15 month doping ban Maria

:33:55.:34:00.

Sharapova will book a spot in Wimbledon qualifying if she wins at

:34:01.:34:04.

the Madrid open today. She faces Eugenie Bouchard who has called for

:34:05.:34:08.

the Russian to be banned for life. I'll be back after 10 AM with a full

:34:09.:34:10.

date. The last year has seen

:34:11.:34:12.

shock election results with Brexit, Trump and now

:34:13.:34:14.

the new French President Emmanuel Macron - a political novice who has

:34:15.:34:17.

never held elected office before and formed his new party

:34:18.:34:20.

only a year ago. The 39 year old has promised he'll

:34:21.:34:22.

use his victory to unite a divided Elected with two-thirds of the valid

:34:23.:34:25.

votes, he admitted the task facing him was daunting

:34:26.:34:29.

and that he would need to build A third of French voters either

:34:30.:34:32.

abstained in Sunday's second round, chose neither candidate

:34:33.:34:39.

or spoiled their ballot. Let's talk now to our correspondent

:34:40.:34:40.

Karin Gianonne who is in Paris. Good morning. Hello and welcome to

:34:41.:36:49.

Paris. There is a double sense of Natcho -- national occasion, France

:36:50.:36:52.

has woken up to a new President-elect in the form of

:36:53.:36:55.

Emmanuel Macron but it's also a public all date nationwide. Victory

:36:56.:37:00.

in Europe Day and in just a few minutes behind us, there will be a

:37:01.:37:06.

huge military parade in commemoration. Emmanuel Macron will

:37:07.:37:10.

be there alongside the outgoing President Francois Hollande, we come

:37:11.:37:13.

to that in a few moments. With me is Hugh Schofield, the BBC's Paris

:37:14.:37:22.

correspondent and we have a member of the Emmanuelle Macron campaign

:37:23.:37:28.

team, who was in charge of gender equality. What do you make of what

:37:29.:37:36.

happened? How we did this night? Can you believe it? No, it's amazing, a

:37:37.:37:41.

year ago no 1 knew him and no 1 could imagine he would be President

:37:42.:37:47.

of France and now he is, he did it, it's amazing and it's a historical

:37:48.:37:51.

day. You are in charge of gender equality, France missed out on a

:37:52.:37:56.

female President! My God, we are happy we did, Marine Le Pen is not a

:37:57.:38:01.

feminist, she is against every single woman's writes, she is

:38:02.:38:07.

against abortion, the rights of women and it's a good thing we have

:38:08.:38:10.

this man for President today stop tell me why you think that

:38:11.:38:14.

unfortunate objective is, I note you are in charge of selecting the

:38:15.:38:18.

people who will be put forward to stand in the forthcoming

:38:19.:38:20.

parliamentary elections to be prospective MPs, how are you

:38:21.:38:25.

selecting them? It's a really hard job, we have a President to say

:38:26.:38:32.

Minister and we are 9 members and the commission in charge to select

:38:33.:38:41.

the deputy, people who have spent 5 years and he will spend 5 years with

:38:42.:38:45.

Emanuel Macron, we want half men and half women and 410 people you have 8

:38:46.:38:52.

old men and two women and we want that change, we want to have half

:38:53.:38:57.

women and half men. You mentioned all male, are you saying this is an

:38:58.:39:01.

opportunity for young people? Of course not, the goal is to have

:39:02.:39:07.

mixes and we want different people to make the world together. We have

:39:08.:39:12.

to have people with experience working hand-in-hand with young

:39:13.:39:16.

people and new people together. Emmanuel Macron has topped lot about

:39:17.:39:19.

equality, talked about different kinds of families, how ready do you

:39:20.:39:29.

think France is ready for his vision, especially socially

:39:30.:39:31.

conservative pockets of France, Marine Le Pen got more than

:39:32.:39:36.

10,000,000 votes? Of course, I think France is red, ago now we voted,

:39:37.:39:43.

waiting for everyone and I think the majority of people have chosen

:39:44.:39:47.

Emmanuel Macron for President and I think there should be a kind of

:39:48.:39:51.

Coronation now. You think he has a realistic chance at uniting the

:39:52.:39:54.

country behind? Of course it can. I think what he did was he had people

:39:55.:40:00.

from right and left, are preferred together, for the country. Thank

:40:01.:40:10.

you. Our guest there in charge of putting together a list of

:40:11.:40:13.

prospective MPs, we can hear this starting up behind us, a big event

:40:14.:40:17.

for France, in national holiday to commemorate victory in Europe day,

:40:18.:40:20.

my colleague Hugh Schofield is with me looking down on the events

:40:21.:40:26.

beginning behind us. Tell us the significance of May the 8th for

:40:27.:40:30.

France? It was the end of the war in Europe and it was a national

:40:31.:40:34.

holiday, declared so, not at the time but in 1981, Francois

:40:35.:40:41.

Mitterrand and it was a way of recognising the great event which

:40:42.:40:48.

was victory in Europe. Oddly, though, it's not a holiday which is

:40:49.:40:53.

really I would say part of people's mental make-up. I've been out asking

:40:54.:40:57.

people what they are celebrating on this bank all of and B team puzzled,

:40:58.:41:03.

they don't know, and in fact my taxi driver coming here this morning had

:41:04.:41:08.

no idea it was a holiday. -- tank holiday and people were puzzled. The

:41:09.:41:15.

popularity of this is not what it should be and its declining, you

:41:16.:41:22.

would not see huge crowds of people, not like to live the 14th, this is a

:41:23.:41:28.

modest... Because that is Bastille Day. This is a modest military

:41:29.:41:32.

parade, very significant and important and I don't want to

:41:33.:41:35.

downplay that at all, President Francois Hollande world lay a wreath

:41:36.:41:40.

at the statue of Charles de Gaulle and down the Champs-Elysees he will,

:41:41.:41:47.

normally in a slow-moving vehicle with blind by the Republican guard

:41:48.:41:53.

and the jingle jangle of whatever it is they have! And they will arrive

:41:54.:41:58.

at the top and he will rekindle the flame over the Tomb of the Unknown

:41:59.:42:03.

Soldier and in all of this he will be accompanied by Emmanuel Macron, I

:42:04.:42:07.

think, that's what's happened before when we've had this 5, 10 years ago,

:42:08.:42:14.

the outgoing and incoming do it together as a civil of transition.

:42:15.:42:19.

The significant part of today is the President elect Emmanuel Macron will

:42:20.:42:23.

appear for the 1st time effectively alongside President Francois

:42:24.:42:27.

Hollande. It's a chance for France to see the 2 men together, they may

:42:28.:42:32.

which other very well indeed, rather thrown in Emanuel Macron's says that

:42:33.:42:37.

he was very close to Francois Hollande and he was and is they will

:42:38.:42:42.

be together throughout this ceremony which is furry importance and

:42:43.:42:46.

Bollettieri. It will be a way to begin to take on the mantle. Tell us

:42:47.:42:49.

about their relationship and how it evolved and how it became, some say

:42:50.:42:54.

it's a strange, some say this was the plan. Indeed. Certainly, the

:42:55.:43:02.

critics on the right will always say this about him. It was a brilliant

:43:03.:43:10.

ploy by the Socialists to ensure continuity. That Francois Hollande

:43:11.:43:17.

knew his time was up. His ratings were terrible and so some work in a

:43:18.:43:22.

room in the Elysee Palace they cooked up a plan they would arrange

:43:23.:43:30.

a break, Emmanuel Macron would split away representing social Democrat

:43:31.:43:32.

reformists and by breaking away he would become legitimate and come to

:43:33.:43:40.

power and assure a continuity for the Socialist party. You know, of

:43:41.:43:47.

course, if you are not a supporter -- if you are a supporter of

:43:48.:43:51.

Emmanuel Macron, he says everything he did was his own personal choice,

:43:52.:43:54.

his conscience prevailed and this is what he did but there is no question

:43:55.:43:58.

they were very close. Just reading the other day than Francois Hollande

:43:59.:44:02.

was inaugurated exactly 5 years ago 1 of the 1st things he did was fly

:44:03.:44:06.

to Germany to see Angela Merkel who was in the plane with him on that

:44:07.:44:12.

trip? Emmanuel Macron. They had been together very close for the past 5

:44:13.:44:17.

years. Not to say that Emmanuel Macron doesn't criticise a lot of

:44:18.:44:19.

what Francois Hollande did and I think Emmanuel Macron genuinely felt

:44:20.:44:25.

constrict dead and his liberal pro-business tendencies were

:44:26.:44:29.

constrained and kept down and thwarted by Francois Hollande. But,

:44:30.:44:35.

I think Macron has great feelings for Aransas Holland and he is at

:44:36.:44:41.

heart, I think a man of the left, in a social sense. We are just seeing

:44:42.:44:45.

Emmanuel Macron has arrived there, in the midst of the crowd, he will

:44:46.:44:52.

be attending the ceremony and this completely standard procedure, this

:44:53.:44:56.

coincides with the aftermath of the presidential election for the

:44:57.:44:58.

outgoing to attend with the incoming. Yes. Famously, Nicolas

:44:59.:45:14.

Sarkozy... I can see him down there. Nicolas Sarkozy and Francois

:45:15.:45:17.

Hollande did it 5 years ago, that was the occasion when Francois

:45:18.:45:23.

Hollande, was soaked by a downpour, it was seen as a terrible symbol of

:45:24.:45:27.

the beginning of his presidency. Yes, all the great and the good come

:45:28.:45:33.

together and I think, is that Nicolas Sarkozy? Yes, I think I can

:45:34.:45:37.

see him, in the monitor we have feared and admits the brightening

:45:38.:45:43.

Paris light. Because it tends to fall, obviously the election run

:45:44.:45:45.

slightly differently every 5 years but it's around this time. And so

:45:46.:45:52.

the ceremony tends to fall just at a time when we can see the symbolic

:45:53.:45:58.

handing over of power and the 2 men, the last time, it was much more

:45:59.:46:04.

tense, Francois Hollande and Nicolas Sarkozy did not enjoy each other's

:46:05.:46:10.

company and on the handover of power is, officially, at the Elysee

:46:11.:46:15.

Palace, Francois Hollande was almost rude to his face by not accompanying

:46:16.:46:19.

him down the is to say goodbye, but was a delicate moment. This is not,

:46:20.:46:24.

two people who broadly feel very close together under the same side

:46:25.:46:28.

of French politics who have a warm relationship. There won't be any of

:46:29.:46:29.

that tension. We talk about Emmanuel Macron as the

:46:30.:46:38.

newcomer, never held elected office, but he was appointed economy

:46:39.:46:41.

minister by Francois Hollande. He has been inside in that sense of the

:46:42.:46:47.

political scene and he was very much part of Francois Hollande's

:46:48.:46:51.

Government? He cast himself as an outsider brilliantly. I'm not saying

:46:52.:46:58.

it's not genuinely felt. He feels that he's an outsider because he

:46:59.:47:02.

feels he has a mission to reconfigure French politics and he

:47:03.:47:05.

believes the old left-right division is out of time and out of place and

:47:06.:47:10.

has stopped the reforms that the country needs, but to describe him

:47:11.:47:16.

as an outsider is ridiculous. He is almost the emblem of the perfect

:47:17.:47:23.

product of the French administrative educational system. He is someone

:47:24.:47:28.

who has come up from nowhere, a modest background and plucked where

:47:29.:47:33.

obscurity and because of his brilliance was selected and given

:47:34.:47:36.

the fast-track treatment and came up and did all the top jobs thaw do if

:47:37.:47:41.

you're someone of that background. He was an inspector of finance which

:47:42.:47:44.

is the top job in the administration. He was in the big

:47:45.:47:55.

school in Strasbourg where the administrative elite are trained, he

:47:56.:47:58.

has got his network. This is where he built up his network and this

:47:59.:48:06.

figure from the past this great figure on the left of French

:48:07.:48:13.

politics spotted him and said, "Come into my group." He was adorned and

:48:14.:48:22.

anointed as someone who had a future in socialist politics. He had

:48:23.:48:25.

identified as being on the left. It was naturally towards that side of

:48:26.:48:29.

politics that he gravitated. He could have taken another choice and

:48:30.:48:32.

gone down a different road, but it was to the left, and that's how he

:48:33.:48:38.

came to be so close to Francois Hollande when Francois Hollande was

:48:39.:48:42.

elected and was in his team as his economics advisor and then a couple

:48:43.:48:46.

of years later when he, there was a reshuffle, he was promoted even

:48:47.:48:49.

further and became his economy minister, but as I say, he doesn't

:48:50.:48:53.

want to play that up too much because he always wanted to, you

:48:54.:48:58.

know, keep his distance, but it's a fact that he was very much alined

:48:59.:49:05.

with Francois Hollande and with the reformist side of the Hollande

:49:06.:49:12.

presidency was blocked by Francois Hollande, but there was a will there

:49:13.:49:16.

and that will was receipted by Emmanuel Macron. We have seen the

:49:17.:49:20.

outgoing president, Francois Hollande greeting people. That's a

:49:21.:49:23.

man with a week left in the job, perhaps less. It will be on Sunday

:49:24.:49:28.

which the hand-over of powers happens. It goes down to mandates.

:49:29.:49:33.

He a five year mandate, he was elected on the 14th, so he has to be

:49:34.:49:40.

out by the 14th. By next Sunday Francois Hollande will have to have

:49:41.:49:44.

stepped down. So the hand-over could happen before then, but we're told

:49:45.:49:47.

it will happen on Sunday which is unusual because it doesn't normally

:49:48.:49:52.

happen on a weekend. At that point we will or around that time, we will

:49:53.:50:01.

have to have had Emmanuel Macron's version what his next Government

:50:02.:50:03.

will be and that's what everybody has been waiting for. He has been

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able to bask in this ambiguity. It mant he has been able to appeal to

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the soft left and everyone said we can see ourselves somewhere in the

:50:15.:50:18.

mix, but as soon as he names this Government and particularly his

:50:19.:50:21.

Prime Minister, he is going to have to make a choice and this is the

:50:22.:50:24.

beginning of governing, making choices and that's where his

:50:25.:50:26.

problems and difficulties will start. If he names a Prime Minister

:50:27.:50:34.

from the left, from the outgoing Government, the outgoing Defence

:50:35.:50:37.

Minister, his name is a possibility, people will say, "Hang on a sec, you

:50:38.:50:42.

said you're the candidate of renewal." If he names the other

:50:43.:50:46.

possibility, a woman from civil society, a couple of names are out

:50:47.:50:59.

there a big trade union leader, or Christine lee guard, these are

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possibilities, people will say, "Hang on a sec, they're not

:51:04.:51:07.

politicians." These people have to build up the party. Run an election

:51:08.:51:11.

campaign in six weeks time and they don't know Parliament. They don't

:51:12.:51:15.

know the political system. There is to ideal candidate and this is what

:51:16.:51:19.

happens when you get into power. You've got to make choices and you

:51:20.:51:22.

start annoying people and he has been able to get awithout doing that

:51:23.:51:27.

until now. Already, speaking to members of the Emmanuel Macron team

:51:28.:51:32.

in the last few hours, you get that sense that even they didn't have a

:51:33.:51:36.

feeling this honeymoon was going to last long. The party is over, we

:51:37.:51:41.

have got to get to work? They are aLewisive about that which is a wise

:51:42.:51:45.

position to take. They have got their fingers burned after the first

:51:46.:51:50.

round when Emmanuel Macron and this has thrown in his face a bit went

:51:51.:51:55.

out and celebrated at a restaurant and this was seen as not good form.

:51:56.:52:00.

Personally, I can't see why it was such a bad thing to do, but France

:52:01.:52:05.

is getting very puritanical these days. It was nothing extravagant.

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Anyway, it was thrown in his face that he was celebrating early and

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out there and that France was suffering and here he was

:52:20.:52:22.

celebrating. So, I mean, and clearly last night you saw that his first

:52:23.:52:25.

appearance on television was incredibly sober, not the one at the

:52:26.:52:30.

Louvre, but this one, there was no audience and no one clapping, it was

:52:31.:52:36.

just him talking to the camera, very sober. At the Louvre, he came out

:52:37.:52:42.

solemnly, looking serious, as if the gravity of the moment was really on

:52:43.:52:48.

his shoulders. Very much aware that if he comes out looking like he's

:52:49.:52:53.

too happy, too jolly, celebrating too much he won't have caught the

:52:54.:52:57.

moment. And the moment is defined by the fact that even though he won

:52:58.:53:01.

this big majority, most people, you know, don't feel a huge affinity

:53:02.:53:06.

towards him. He has got to and great fan club in the aspiring middle

:53:07.:53:11.

classes of Paris and the other big cities, but you know, what's that?

:53:12.:53:16.

That's 20% of the population. It's not the whole population and he

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knows that and in his addresses last night he did acknowledge that and I

:53:21.:53:23.

thought it was significant and rather noble of him to reach out at

:53:24.:53:29.

Republican, and Marine Le Pen, but acknowledging that she is part of

:53:30.:53:33.

the Republican camp now, which I think is very, very important. That

:53:34.:53:37.

party has to be brought into French politics or else it just becomes a

:53:38.:53:44.

joke politics. So his language is, it does recognise that there is a

:53:45.:53:48.

large part of the population which does not really feel any great

:53:49.:53:55.

warmth towards him and his cheery optimistic pro-business

:53:56.:53:59.

international side and he is going to hope that he produces results

:54:00.:54:02.

quickly enough and that he brings them with him.

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How big a problem do you think it will be for him, Hugh, that more

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than 10.5 million people voted for Marine Le Pen yesterday? Well, I

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mean, that's what I'm saying. In a way he was lucky that it wasn't

:54:16.:54:19.

more. He had a dynamic at the end of that campaign in the run-up to

:54:20.:54:28.

yesterday which allowed him to breach the 66%, two-thirds. That was

:54:29.:54:31.

important. It meant there was a switch by many people in the last

:54:32.:54:37.

days, particularly after the debate, which was a car crash for Marine Le

:54:38.:54:41.

Pen. There was a switch to him and that meant he it elevated him from

:54:42.:54:46.

being purely the default candidate, the one that was not Marine Le Pen

:54:47.:54:50.

to being someone who could claim to have brought more people into his

:54:51.:54:56.

camp and there were people, I think, who in the end said we're not going

:54:57.:55:01.

to abstain, we're going to vote for him because we don't really like

:55:02.:55:07.

Marine Le Pen, but Marine Le Pen's presence in French politics is such

:55:08.:55:11.

a curse, not because she is bad or anything like that, but because it

:55:12.:55:15.

defines everything else. Everything is defined around whether or not

:55:16.:55:20.

you're with the National Front. Like with Chirac in 20002, we have people

:55:21.:55:25.

elected whose only merit is they are against Marine Le Pen and the Front

:55:26.:55:30.

National which means there isn't a proper consensus around the

:55:31.:55:33.

programme of Government of that elected leader. That's what blocked

:55:34.:55:41.

Chirac in 2002 and unless he's careful it is going to be a burden

:55:42.:55:46.

for Emmanuel Macron as well. Hugh, we are looking at the events that

:55:47.:55:50.

are taking place. The military parade marking 8th May. This is a

:55:51.:55:55.

significant daishghts but across France, do people think of what it

:55:56.:55:59.

means when they take the day off on 8th May? I really don't think they

:56:00.:56:05.

do. A few years ago there was talk of uniting the war holidays of

:56:06.:56:12.

France because there is a 11th November as well and turning 11th

:56:13.:56:17.

November into a memorial of all recent wars which would include the

:56:18.:56:20.

First World War and the Second World War and wars of Algeria and China

:56:21.:56:24.

and so on. That never happened because there was resistance to

:56:25.:56:28.

losing holidays, not surprisingly in France and so 8th May remains a

:56:29.:56:34.

public holiday. You ask people and they're puzzled about what it is all

:56:35.:56:40.

about and as time goes by and memories fade, of course, that will

:56:41.:56:45.

become more pronounced and 11th November, First World War, not the

:56:46.:56:49.

poppies, but the equivalent poppy idea here is still very strong.

:56:50.:56:54.

That's seen as the war to end all wars and the Second World War and

:56:55.:56:58.

the end of that, funny enough, even though it is closer in history, it

:56:59.:57:03.

doesn't have the same repunch as the First World War obviously because

:57:04.:57:09.

the First World War was a personal catastrophe for French families and

:57:10.:57:19.

the Second World War was not quite so cataclysmic and it was also the

:57:20.:57:25.

group, the group allied forces in the Second World War which led to

:57:26.:57:30.

the end of it and the ambiguous part that France played in the Second

:57:31.:57:35.

World War, all that made the Maria Millerry slightly more complicated.

:57:36.:57:41.

Hugh, thank you very much. You're watching BBC News with special live

:57:42.:57:42.

coverage from Paris. Let's get the latest

:57:43.:57:48.

weather update with Carol. We have got an east-west split in

:57:49.:57:59.

the weather today. This is from one of our Weather Watchers. A beautiful

:58:00.:58:03.

picture from Cumbria. You can see it nicely on the satellite picture.

:58:04.:58:07.

Northern and eastern areas and some central areas still have a fair bit

:58:08.:58:11.

of cloud. We've got sunshine further west, but where we have got the

:58:12.:58:14.

cloud across the Midlands, here today, that will break up and we

:58:15.:58:18.

will see sunshine. But if you're in the east, we have a cold, northerly

:58:19.:58:23.

wind. So today, it is going to feel cold here. Now, across north-east

:58:24.:58:27.

Scotland, that scenario holds true. There will be more cloud. Come

:58:28.:58:30.

south, a lot of sunshine. For Northern England, a lot of sunshine,

:58:31.:58:34.

but once again some eastern coastal counties, not just the wind, but the

:58:35.:58:38.

cloud will remain for much of the day and we have got the cloud

:58:39.:58:41.

through East Anglia and down into the South East, but it should stay

:58:42.:58:45.

dry. Drifting further west from Hampshire over towards Devon and

:58:46.:58:48.

Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly, we're back into the sunshine and we

:58:49.:58:52.

stay in it too across Wales with temperatures getting up to around 15

:58:53.:58:59.

Celsius in Aberystwyth. Aberystwyth. For Northern Ireland, not as warm as

:59:00.:59:05.

it was today. Yesterday you had the highest temperature which was 21.1

:59:06.:59:08.

Celsius. Today, we're looking at 13 Celsius to 16 Celsius. This evening

:59:09.:59:12.

and overnight the winds starts to ease and becomes more of a breeze so

:59:13.:59:15.

not particularly strong. There will be areas of cloud thick enough to

:59:16.:59:19.

produce drizzle and in the countryside, it will be cold enough

:59:20.:59:22.

here and there for a touch of frost. These temperatures you can see

:59:23.:59:25.

represent towns and cities. So not as low. High pressure still very

:59:26.:59:29.

much in charge of our weather tomorrow. Look at the distinct lack

:59:30.:59:37.

of isobars. So if you're along the East Coast, you will notice the

:59:38.:59:42.

wind. Hardly a breath of wind. Still cloud at times and tomorrow will be

:59:43.:59:45.

a cloudier day than it will be today, but nonetheless, there will

:59:46.:59:49.

be sunshine around. Temperature wise, we are looking at nine to 16

:59:50.:59:55.

Celsius. As we move from Tuesday and into Wednesday, there will be clear

:59:56.:59:59.

skies by night. Temperatures fulling to two Celsius, maybe lower, some of

:00:00.:00:02.

us higher. Again, there will be a touch of frost under the clear

:00:03.:00:05.

skies. A lot of dry weather on Wednesday. However, as the wind will

:00:06.:00:09.

have changed direction, there will be more cloud coming this across

:00:10.:00:12.

northern and central parts of Scotland with rain. Hardly a breath

:00:13.:00:19.

of wind down the East Coast. As we move further west, we're back into

:00:20.:00:21.

the sunshine once again. Hello.

:00:22.:00:27.

It's Monday. It's 10am.

:00:28.:00:28.

I'm Victoria Derbyshire. An investigation by this programme

:00:29.:00:30.

discovers more 1,400 mistakes are recorded by maternity staff

:00:31.:00:32.

in hospitals in England every week - some of these errors have

:00:33.:00:35.

life-changing consequences I'm angry and always going to be

:00:36.:00:47.

angry because they've taken my son's life away from him. There's no

:00:48.:00:50.

reason why he shouldn't be here today and I have to live with that

:00:51.:00:55.

for the rest of my life. Every day I have to live with the fact that I'm

:00:56.:00:56.

a victim of the NHS. Let us know your stories

:00:57.:00:59.

about giving birth in a maternity unit and also your experiences

:01:00.:01:01.

if you work in one. Emmanuel Macron will be the next

:01:02.:01:05.

president of France after defeating At 39 - he will be the youngest

:01:06.:01:07.

leader France has ever had. He says there is an enormous task

:01:08.:01:13.

ahead. I'm really happy because Emmanuel

:01:14.:01:24.

Macron is a good solution, Aidid choice, to keep up live in France.

:01:25.:01:28.

We love Europe. I'm happy about this result. It means confidence, it

:01:29.:01:32.

means the future, France is not dead, France is not an old country

:01:33.:01:39.

dying, France has hope. We be live in Paris as the President-elect

:01:40.:01:47.

attendance a victory in Europe commemoration day.

:01:48.:01:48.

We'll tell you what his victory means for us in the UK

:01:49.:01:51.

And - after nearly three years in captivity, more than 80 Chibok

:01:52.:01:55.

schoogirls have been released by Boko Haram Islamist

:01:56.:01:57.

We'll bring you their story before 11.

:01:58.:02:01.

the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:02:02.:02:08.

France's newly elected President, Emmanuel Macron, has promised

:02:09.:02:10.

to heal the country's divisions following his resounding

:02:11.:02:12.

victory over the far-right leader, Marine Le Pen,

:02:13.:02:14.

The pro-European candidate secured 66 percent of the vote

:02:15.:02:17.

and at just 39 years old, he will become the country's

:02:18.:02:20.

This morning he will attend his 1st public event in Paris.

:02:21.:02:29.

The BBC understands the Conservatives will recommit

:02:30.:02:31.

to cutting net migration to the "tens of thousands"

:02:32.:02:33.

Yesterday the Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, refused to say

:02:34.:02:36.

whether the pledge - which was also in the party's 2010

:02:37.:02:39.

and 2015 manifestos - would be repeated.

:02:40.:02:45.

Meanwhile, Ukip says it would cut net migration

:02:46.:02:47.

Labour says it would extend the ban on television adverts

:02:48.:02:52.

for unhealthy food and sweets until the nine o'clock watershed.

:02:53.:02:55.

The Conservatives say Britain already has the strictest

:02:56.:02:58.

But Labour says its strategy aims to halve the number of overweight

:02:59.:03:02.

An investigation by this programme has discovered at least 1,000

:03:03.:03:09.

mistakes are made in England's NHS maternity units every week.

:03:10.:03:12.

The most serious incidents include the avoidable deaths of mothers

:03:13.:03:15.

and babies as a result of errors by midwives and doctors.

:03:16.:03:21.

North Korea says it's detained a FOURTH American citizen

:03:22.:03:23.

on suspicion of hostile acts against the state.

:03:24.:03:27.

Kim Hak Song is understood to have worked for the Pyongyang University

:03:28.:03:30.

of Science and Technology and was detained on Saturday.

:03:31.:03:32.

No details of any alleged offences was given.

:03:33.:03:37.

A 2 year old girl is being treated in hospital after suffering serious

:03:38.:03:40.

injuries to her head and body in what's been described

:03:41.:03:43.

Police say several animals managed to get into the garden

:03:44.:03:46.

where she was playing in the Toxteth area of Liverpool.

:03:47.:03:49.

Ten dogs have been seized from a nearby house and a man living

:03:50.:03:52.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30.

:03:53.:04:06.

Thank you Coleen who has e-mailed detailing her experiences about

:04:07.:04:14.

giving birth. I was an induced labour, my baby was left stuck for

:04:15.:04:20.

10 hours, I was rushed into theatre, I lost a litre of blood post birth,

:04:21.:04:27.

after giving Earth, my husband, my new baby daughter and I were left

:04:28.:04:32.

waiting in a storage room. -- after giving birth.

:04:33.:04:34.

Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

:04:35.:04:36.

use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged

:04:37.:04:39.

Jose Mourinho made 8 changes to his Manchester United team that

:04:40.:04:45.

lost to Arsenal at the Emirates yesterday as they prioritse

:04:46.:04:47.

the Europa League as a route into the Champions League next season.

:04:48.:04:50.

It's the first time that he has lost to Arsene Wenger

:04:51.:04:53.

in the Premier League, either at United or in his

:04:54.:04:55.

Granit Xhaka and Danny Welbeck scored the goals.

:04:56.:04:59.

The Gunners are still 6 points outside the Champions league places,

:05:00.:05:02.

United have written off a top four finish, so Mourinho didn't seem too

:05:03.:05:07.

It is the 1st time... I left the Emirates, they were crying, they

:05:08.:05:20.

were walking the streets with their head low so finally today, they

:05:21.:05:25.

sing, the scarves, it is nice for them! That will while the Gunners

:05:26.:05:32.

fans a little bit. after a goalless draw

:05:33.:05:34.

at home to Southampton. Fraser Forster saved James Milner's

:05:35.:05:37.

second half penalty - the first time in 8 years that he's

:05:38.:05:40.

failed to score from the spot The 1995 Premier League Champions

:05:41.:05:43.

Blackburn Rovers will be League One side next season after a nailbiting

:05:44.:05:46.

final day in the Championship. All the drama was down

:05:47.:05:48.

at the bottom with one big club It was between Rovers,

:05:49.:05:52.

Birmingham City and Nottingham Forest for the final relegation spot

:05:53.:05:55.

and all of them won, Rover's 3-1 win against Brentford

:05:56.:05:58.

not enough to stop them slipping into the third tier

:05:59.:06:01.

of English football. They finished level on points

:06:02.:06:06.

with Forest but go down Manager Tony Mowbray says

:06:07.:06:08.

he would like to stay and help Rovers try and get back up next

:06:09.:06:14.

season The automatic promotion spots

:06:15.:06:17.

to the Premier League had already been settled

:06:18.:06:19.

but it was Newcastle United who clinched the Championship

:06:20.:06:21.

title on the final day. A three-nil win over Barnsley

:06:22.:06:25.

was enough to clinch the trophy after rivals Brighton conceded

:06:26.:06:28.

a late equaliser at Aston Villa. Reading, Sheffield Wednesday,

:06:29.:06:33.

Huddersfield and Fulham will contest the final Premier League place

:06:34.:06:42.

through the play-offs. Remember that tragic story

:06:43.:06:44.

of the Brazillian club who lost 19 of their players in an aeroplance

:06:45.:06:47.

crash last year. Well seven months on,

:06:48.:06:49.

Chapecoense are celebrating a title. The team had won the State

:06:50.:06:54.

Championship last season - and with a team made up

:06:55.:06:57.

of youngsters and loan players - We did a great job, we are very

:06:58.:07:15.

happy for our work and we are very happy we can honour the Warriors,

:07:16.:07:20.

they are not here any more but we can honour them with this title. It

:07:21.:07:22.

is for them. And just a fortnight after returning

:07:23.:07:25.

from a 15 month doping ban Maria Sharapova will book a spot

:07:26.:07:28.

in Wimbledon qualifying if she wins her second round match

:07:29.:07:30.

at the Madrid Open today. She beat Mirjana Lucic-Baroni to set

:07:31.:07:33.

up what could be a prickly encounter The Canadian has called for

:07:34.:07:36.

the Russian to be banned for life. Let's talk to Norman Smith, we are

:07:37.:08:06.

continuing with our election coverage.

:08:07.:08:17.

I think the Prime Minister will be pressed today about the issue of

:08:18.:08:24.

immigration, she will recommit to this target of getting net migration

:08:25.:08:27.

down to the tens of thousands, a target which they have missed again

:08:28.:08:34.

and again and again. What Theresa May seems determined to stick with

:08:35.:08:37.

it because it's all an issue of trust, I think is her view. If she

:08:38.:08:42.

is to convince voters she is serious about getting the number of migrants

:08:43.:08:46.

coming to Britain down then she cannot abandon this pledge,

:08:47.:08:50.

particularly when she's having to negotiate Brexit and also it's

:08:51.:08:54.

become a sort of personal thing for her I think. As Home Secretary she

:08:55.:08:59.

was so closely identified with this pledge if she was to give it up now

:09:00.:09:03.

it would be viewed almost as a personal defeat. However, Ukip this

:09:04.:09:07.

morning trying to pile on the pressure, saying they want a

:09:08.:09:12.

migration policy which is a sort of 1 person in, 1 person out policy, so

:09:13.:09:21.

there would be 0 net migration and their leader Paul Nuttall, in the

:09:22.:09:24.

past few minutes, in effect said you cannot trust Theresa May on

:09:25.:09:29.

immigration. I can announce today that Ukip will go into the selection

:09:30.:09:34.

with a policy of balanced migration which means 0 net immigration over

:09:35.:09:47.

the next 5 year period. We have to wait until we get the Tory manifesto

:09:48.:09:51.

until we see exactly what the commitment will be because it will

:09:52.:09:54.

be interesting frankly to see whether there is a specific yet to

:09:55.:09:59.

meet this tens of thousands target or whether it disappears off into a

:10:00.:10:02.

long ambition some work down the line in never never land. Norman,

:10:03.:10:05.

thank you. Okay - also this general election,

:10:06.:10:08.

back, not by popular demand, but because we couldn't think

:10:09.:10:11.

of anything else - every day until June 8th we'll be

:10:12.:10:13.

highlighting the best cock-up, gaffe or highly amusing moment

:10:14.:10:16.

from the campaign, with Norman. We need a general election and we

:10:17.:10:22.

need 1 now. Take it away, Norman... This, the

:10:23.:10:49.

humble selfie stick is pretty much ubiquitous on the campaign trail.

:10:50.:10:53.

Wherever you go you will see politicians with 1 of these being

:10:54.:10:57.

thrust in front of politicians, the modern day equivalent of having to

:10:58.:11:01.

kiss the baby, politicians have to have that selfie moment. Some of

:11:02.:11:04.

them are getting a little bit familiar with these selfie moments,

:11:05.:11:08.

here is Jeremy Corbyn when he was out at Leicester University over the

:11:09.:11:09.

weekend. Someone else came up for a selfie

:11:10.:11:42.

and he started mothering them. Concentrate! Yes, that's better!

:11:43.:11:58.

Yes! Showing his best side! And then there was a curious moment when

:11:59.:12:00.

another bloke came up and I think said to him, the last time I met you

:12:01.:12:04.

was in a toilet in Leicester! Charming.

:12:05.:12:06.

We met in the gents' toilets at Leicester University.

:12:07.:12:09.

Although I don't think we should say that on-air!

:12:10.:12:12.

To give Jeremy Corbyn his credit, he seems to go with it remarkably good

:12:13.:12:25.

spirits, doesn't necessarily mean it will do him any good at the

:12:26.:12:30.

election. Do you remember the many found on moment when Ed Miliband

:12:31.:12:33.

came off the boss and he was grabbed by that hen party? Before we go. Let

:12:34.:12:42.

me give you another classic what the... Moment. You're never going to

:12:43.:12:45.

believe this. Iain Duncan Smith doing Eminem. Remind us of these

:12:46.:12:53.

words. I only said that, you were talking about Eminem -- Eminem, lose

:12:54.:12:59.

yourself lyrics, from Diane Abbot. Can we have some? It's halfway down,

:13:00.:13:04.

he says, he opens its mouth but the words don't come out, he's joking

:13:05.:13:08.

now, everybody is talking now, the clocks run out! LAUGHTER amazing.

:13:09.:13:18.

Whatever next? Theresa May does Beyonce. That would be good.

:13:19.:13:19.

We're taking our programme on the road - visiting

:13:20.:13:35.

forgotten Britain during the general election campaign.

:13:36.:13:37.

Tomorrow we're in Camborne in Cornwall - one of the most

:13:38.:13:39.

deprived areas in England where 7% of people have no central heating.

:13:40.:13:42.

We'll be asking people there what election issues

:13:43.:13:44.

The NHS is one of the issues that you tell us will influence your vote

:13:45.:13:49.

the most in next month's general election - second only

:13:50.:13:52.

A group which represents health trusts and hospitals says

:13:53.:13:55.

politicians must address rapidly growing concerns over

:13:56.:13:57.

the NHS workforce in the general election campaign.

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NHS Providers says a combination of pay restraint, the impact

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of leaving the European Union and the lack of a decent

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long-term workforce strategy are taking their toll.

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NHS Providers say lower paid workers are leaving the sector to stack

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Let's talk to a group of people who all work for the NHS and also

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Dr Mark Porter, a consultant anaesthetist and chair

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Professor Geeta Nargund, a senior fertility consultant.

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Dr Zeshan Qureshi, a paediatric registrar, Sandy Wright,

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a medical graduate, starting as a junior doctor in August.

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Charlotte Wilson, an anaesthetic nurse.

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Dr Rishi Dhir, an orthopaedic registrar.

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Welcome to all of you and thank you somewhat for your patience, I

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appreciated. How short-staffed or certain parts of the NHS? Very

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short-staffed, talk to any junior doctor, the experiences of rotor

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gaps, you have on-call rotors with emergency staff and ships designated

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that there are gaps for people should be. Go to emergency

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departments, short staffing is rampant, vacancies in general

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practice 5 times higher than they were some years ago, individual

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practices running out of GPs to be able to give services. Do you know

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people who have left the NHS to stack shelves? I know people who

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have gone abroad because there are better pay offers... But not to

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stack shelves, is that true? I have no doubt Chris has a few examples of

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bad but the thing you must remember, the stability of employment, the

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stability of what people see as their commitment to the NHS is

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affected by long-term pay restraint, pay restraint is also known as pay

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cut, an average of 12% pay cuts while the restraint policy has been

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running... Over the last 7 years? Scheduled to carry on for another 3

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years, that has a long-term effect on morale and commitment to the NHS.

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You can, I spoke to the Chief Executive of the trust recently and

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she says she is show short-staffed they are sending people out to

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Spain, the Philippines, to recruit doctors and nurses, it is happening.

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It is, trusts send out to Spain, Greece, the countries in Europe and

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further afield, there have been many nurses over the years and care

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workers coming from the Philippines and other countries, the UK needs

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workers from around the world to come here and do the Surrey

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important jobs in the NHS and social care. Just on this issue of people

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leaping to stack shelves in supermarkets, Chris and represents

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NHS providers, representing the trusts in England says the trusts

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and saying that, employers are saying they are aware of staff who

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have left because of pay. The government reaction to it, the

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conservative reaction I should say in this election campaign is it

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needs a strong economy to deliver at the money to pay out the staff in

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the public sector but we haven't heard yet for the parties want to do

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about funding for the NHS. You say you're cancelling three hip

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or knee operations a week. Why? The reason we're doing this because we

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don't have beds availablement to bring a patient in safely for an

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operation, you not only need to have the staff available to do the

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operation, you need to recover them appropriately afterwards for to or

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three or however many days it takes. The beds have been cut year upon

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year in the NHS. I wanted to go back to what you said about staff

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shortages. There is a massive problem with morale in the NHS.

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There is a recruitment and retention problem at the moment and I think a

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lot of this comes to not only competency and trust. Doctors have

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lost massive trust in this Government. We have seen the first

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junior doctors strikes in a generation and nurses balloted and

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accessing foodbanks for the possibility of strikes and we saw a

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landmark case last Friday on whistle-blowing, junior doctors have

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been cheated out of whistle-blowing protection from this Government

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since 2015 after the Francis Report into Mid-Staffordshire and that was

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thrown out at one of the highest courts of appeal on Friday. This is

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worrying me as a doctor who is near the end of his training about that.

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What's the best and worst thing about your job at the moment as a

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paediatric registrar? Well, the worst thing that I have seen

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recently is that for the first time since 2003 the death rate amongst

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children under one is going up. That's going up in a country that's

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the fifth biggest economy in the world. We have an under one

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mortality rate that is 15th out of 19 in western countries. Why do you

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say that's happening? What Mark and the BMA talk about in terms of an

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under funded, under-resourced NHS is important. We need the Government to

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look at every policy through the prism of does this harm children?

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One in five children now are living in poverty. In the fifth biggest

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economy in the world and all party Parliamentary group stated that

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three million children are at risk of hunger during the school

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holidays. They get free meals during term time and for me, I'm diagnosing

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children with scurvy. How often does that happen? That happened a few

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weeks ago. One child? I haven't seen it before in my career and children

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are going into hospital with malnutrition. Scurvy and

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malnutrition are being diagnosed more commonly. Charlotte Wilson, you

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are an anaesthetic practitioner. They are not scrabbling around for

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money there, are they? I'm glad to say I have had a good experience in

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my trust and because of their sort of charity that they have, they do

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have a lot of extra income that many trust would not benefit from. So,

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perhaps not in my immediate experience at the moment, but

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certainly, in previous posts, you know, there are struggles. Your

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message to politicians from whichever party would be in this

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election campaign? I think training up future healthcare professionals

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is really important. That's our sort of long-term vision. Bursaries were

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cut a few years ago now and personally, without a bursary, I was

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one of the last to go through with a bursary scheme, I could not have

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afforded to train and I would not have qualified and be in working for

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an NHS Trust if that wasn't the case. And in sort of the last year

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there has been a 23% drop in nursing applications across-the-board and

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that's also overseas students applying to come and train here so

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that's really concerning especially... What's the knock on

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effect of that going to be, do you think? That drop in nursing

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applications? Well, I think it will have a knock on effect. Quite

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clearly, I think there are a couple of general points here that the

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doctors, the healthcare professionals, nurses included, they

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need to be empowered and they need to feel that they are appreciated.

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OK. And it's quite important that we can't just rely on goodwill all the

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time because the doctors and the nurse love the National Health

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Service and they are there could do a great job for this institution, we

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can't just rely on the goodwill and we need to make sure they are

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partners in the NHS and the second point is that what Hugh said, we

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need people from outside and I think we have more than 50,000 European

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nationals working in the NHS at the moment as doctors, nurses and

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researchers and we need to think about that when we're talking about

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Brexit and how we retain them. Just on that first point. I think it's

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really important to pay and value our staff well, but going further,

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the NHS is actually making its staff sick which I find quite frightening.

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Depression and post-traumatic stress disorder and anxiety is rife. Doing

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paediatrics and looking after sick and vulnerable children is very

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difficult, but having a 12-and-a-half hour shift where you

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have to break, people fall asleep at the wheel, it's really quite scary.

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No wonder people are being scared off. Has that happened to you, 12

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hour shift, driving home, falling asleep? I felt too tired getting

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into my car andnded up having to get a taxi home and a few hours

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previously I was making life and death decisions with sick children.

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You're going to become a junior Government two months after the next

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Government gets in. What are the challenges for you Speaking to

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friends who are starting as junior doctors, maybe they've done one or

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two years, the sentiment coming from them is they're holding off applying

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for further training. They're going to take time out and maybe locum and

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it is a combination of things which we've talked about, morale issues

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and the pay issues and so they want to sort of just wait and see what

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the effect is going to be before they commit themselves to ten years

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of training and that's one of the reasons that's leading to these gaps

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in the rota is you're not getting these professionals through on to

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the training programmes that could provide the support to probably

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people like myself as new junior doctors coming into the system and

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it's going to be a... Employing locums is costly. The rate is much

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higher for a freelance stand-in. I don't think you can blame these

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individuals for taking a step. If I'm to the going to get paid very

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well, I'm not going to get valued, the morale is low, maybe I should

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take time out and consider an alternative career. Hugh, we know

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about what some parties are saying they would do with the NHS and with

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social care? Well, Labour, last week, said they would raise the cap

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on public sector pay. Currently 1%, set by the Conservative Government

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to go through to 2020. They would raise it to allow pay increases of

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above that, more in line with inflation. They say they would pay

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for that by raising corporation tax after cuts over the last few years.

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But actually they weren't very clear about how much money it would cost

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and whether corporation tax receipts had been pledged to other policies.

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The Liberal Democrats said at the weekend they would put a penny on

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income tax, a penny in the pound, that raises in total ?6 billion over

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the next, by 2020, you get there. The trouble is, how far will that go

:24:38.:24:43.

given the pressures of keeping up with demand and this raises a bigger

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question - does the NHS and social care need rather more than what the

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parties are talking about? We spend just under 10% of national income on

:24:53.:24:56.

health, France and Germany is just over 11, but that difference could

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be around ?20 billion a year. So I think there is a big debate about

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all these issues about sustaining the NHS and social care and paying

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staff. The Conservatives haven't said what they would do about

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spending. They did say they'd try to get 10,000 more professionals in

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mental health over the next few years, but that would have to come

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from existing planned NHS budget increases.

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Dr Mark Porter, is it simply a lot more money? Is it as simple as that?

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The key thing underlying alling the stories we heard about the NHS being

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at breaking point. We spend less than leading European economies with

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whom we compare ourselves. Compared to the long-term trend in the NHS,

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the spending increase each year are lower than they have been in the

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history of the NHS. At the moment, the amount of money spent per

:25:49.:25:52.

patient in the NHS is going down in real terms and those spending

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decision which are actual decisions taken by successive governments are

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what is driving the NHS to its breaking point at the moment. The

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key message here is that the general election, everybody says it's about

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Brexit and about giving ourselves a negotiating position, that's

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completely wrong. The general election is the moment when public

:26:10.:26:13.

services are reset for the next five years. Where we look at where we

:26:14.:26:18.

want to be in five years time with the NHS that we have now and the one

:26:19.:26:21.

that we want then and at the moment it is hard to see any party that's

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taking that long-term step back view to give a proper investment in the

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nation's health. Thank you. More than 80 Nigerian schoolgirls

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freed in a prisoner swap deal with the Islamist group Boko Haram

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are expected to be reunited The girls from the town of Chibok -

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who were among more then 200 kidnapped three years ago -

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met their President Muhammadu Buhari Let's speak to two people now

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who say there's more work to be done Reverend Enoch Mark

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joins me on the phone. Two of his daughters were kidnapped

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in Chibok and Aisha Yesufu is Tell us your reaction to the 80

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girls being released. Presently the Government have tried but I know the

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Government can do more than this. We are hoping - we asking the

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Government to release the whole girls. I can't quite hear you. I'm

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going to talk to Aisha Yesufu. Your reaction to when you heard that the

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80 girls were released. The first reaction was one of joy, happiness

:28:05.:28:10.

and elation that 82 girls of our girls have been rescued. The last

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time we had any negotiation was in October 2016 when the Government

:28:16.:28:22.

then said to us that the girls would be brought out very soon. So when we

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heard the 82 were brought back, it was a joyous moment. There was a

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tinge of... We have 113 that are out there and they are waiting to come

:28:36.:28:48.

back home. We have to continue... Each and every one of them must be

:28:49.:28:56.

accounted for. Yes, 113 girls left out there. What do you want the

:28:57.:29:00.

Government to do to try and negotiate their release? Well, we

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want the Government to put in obthe front burner. To give it the maximum

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priority that it needs. There should be intelligence gathering. We've

:29:14.:29:24.

always said to rescue our Chibok we need military operation. So the

:29:25.:29:30.

Government needs to put this as a priority and need to ensure that the

:29:31.:29:34.

Chibok girls, each and everyone of them is accounted for, put

:29:35.:29:40.

everything in place to ensure that. We want our girls to get education

:29:41.:29:44.

and not left behind. The Chibok girls are no longer Nigerian

:29:45.:29:49.

citizens, they are world citizens. They represent the girls that are

:29:50.:29:54.

trying it get education. They represent the repressed people.

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Girls should get education and that's what the Chibok girls did.

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They have spent over three years in captivity for doing just that.

:30:09.:30:15.

Actions speak louder than words. Sometimes we look at Chibok... Thank

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you very much. Thank you for your time.

:30:20.:30:34.

Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:30:35.:30:37.

France's newly elected President, Emmanuel Macron, has promised

:30:38.:30:38.

to heal the country's divisions following his resounding

:30:39.:30:40.

The pro-European candidate is attending his first

:30:41.:30:43.

public event in Paris, after receiving two-thirds

:30:44.:30:45.

of the vote in the run-off against the far-right's Marine Le

:30:46.:30:47.

At 39, he's the country's youngest president.

:30:48.:30:54.

He will attend at the commemoration with the current President Francois

:30:55.:31:00.

Hollande. The BBC understands

:31:01.:31:02.

the Conservatives will recommit to cutting net migration

:31:03.:31:04.

to the "tens of thousands" Yesterday the Home Secretary,

:31:05.:31:06.

Amber Rudd, refused to say whether the pledge -

:31:07.:31:10.

which was also in the party's 2010 and 2015 manifestos -

:31:11.:31:12.

would be repeated. Meanwhile, UKIP says it

:31:13.:31:14.

would cut net migration Labour says it would extend the ban

:31:15.:31:16.

on television adverts for unhealthy food and sweets

:31:17.:31:20.

until the nine o'clock watershed. The Conservatives say Britain

:31:21.:31:22.

already has the strictest But Labour says its strategy aims

:31:23.:31:24.

to halve the number of overweight A 2 year old girl is being treated

:31:25.:31:28.

in hospital after suffering serious injuries to her head and body

:31:29.:31:36.

in what's been described Police say several animals managed

:31:37.:31:38.

to get into the garden where she was playing in the Toxteth

:31:39.:31:42.

area of Liverpool. Ten dogs have been seized

:31:43.:31:45.

from a nearby house and a man living Facebook has placed adverts

:31:46.:31:49.

in British newspapers to provide practical advice on how to spot

:31:50.:31:55.

fake news online. The website has also closed

:31:56.:31:57.

thousands of accounts linked to false stories ahead

:31:58.:32:00.

of the general election. The company advises users to "be

:32:01.:32:03.

sceptical of headlines" The move comes after it was accused

:32:04.:32:06.

of helping to spread fake news during last year's US Presidential

:32:07.:32:12.

election. That's a summary of the latest news,

:32:13.:32:17.

join me for BBC Newsroom Here are the morning's sport

:32:18.:32:20.

headlines now with Olly Foster. These are our headlines this

:32:21.:32:25.

morning, Arsene Wenger saw his Arsenal side beat

:32:26.:32:27.

a Jose Mourinho team for the first They won 2-nil at the Emirates

:32:28.:32:30.

but remain in sixth, six points Former Premier League Champions

:32:31.:32:34.

Blackburn Rovers have been relegated to League One on the last day

:32:35.:32:38.

of the Championship. Newcastle won the title yesterday

:32:39.:32:41.

and Reading, Fulham, Huddersfield and Sheffield Wddnesday

:32:42.:32:45.

will contest the play-offs And just a fortnight after returning

:32:46.:32:52.

from a 15 month doping ban, Maria Sharapova will book a spot

:32:53.:32:55.

in Wimbledon qualifying if she wins her second round match

:32:56.:32:57.

at the Madrid Open today. She faces Eugenie Bouchard,

:32:58.:33:00.

who has called for the Russian That's your sport, I'll be back with

:33:01.:33:03.

more on BBC News after 11 AM. Emmanuel Macron isn't yet 40,

:33:04.:33:14.

had never before run for public office and only

:33:15.:33:16.

founded his political He's now the new

:33:17.:33:19.

President of France. Making him the youngest

:33:20.:33:21.

since Napolean and the first not to be from either of the two main

:33:22.:33:23.

parties. A few moments ago the outgoing

:33:24.:33:42.

President Francois Hollande and Emmanuel Macron embraced before

:33:43.:33:45.

laying a wreath at a victory in Europe commemoration in the centre

:33:46.:33:50.

of Paris. It was Mr Macron's 1st official function as the new French

:33:51.:33:56.

President elect and he has bin grading veterans during

:33:57.:33:58.

commemorations marking the end of the Second World War in Europe along

:33:59.:34:01.

with the man he replaced at the end of the week, Francois Hollande.

:34:02.:34:04.

Our correspondent James Reynolds is in Paris where the ceremony

:34:05.:34:06.

James... The Tory, Francois Hollande and Emmanuel Macron just a few

:34:07.:34:20.

metres beneath me, in the stand, going to greet various guests are

:34:21.:34:25.

not the 1st indication that Emmanuel Macron has had of the job he

:34:26.:34:29.

inherits, 1 of the most powerful in Europe. He stands alongside Francois

:34:30.:34:37.

Hollande in this morning's ceremonies, at the Arctic Triomphe

:34:38.:34:41.

behind me, this was built to remember some of Napoleon's battles

:34:42.:34:47.

and Emmanuel Macron becomes the youngest French leader since

:34:48.:34:50.

Napoleon. A reminder of the weight of the task he faces. They are

:34:51.:34:55.

commemorating victory in Europe Day, victory against Nazi Germany and it

:34:56.:34:58.

was the alliance that France and Germany formed in the years after

:34:59.:35:04.

the Second World War which led to the creation of the European Union a

:35:05.:35:07.

little later, that union is struggling but Emmanuel Macron

:35:08.:35:11.

downgrading people behind me has promised to try to report that

:35:12.:35:16.

project, to work with Angela Merkel to bring back the strength of the

:35:17.:35:19.

European Union which has been damaged since the Brexit vote last

:35:20.:35:24.

year. He sees himself as a pro- European, pro- immigration but he

:35:25.:35:28.

will have a huge task ahead of him. Thank you, James.

:35:29.:35:30.

It's probably fair to say that quite a few French people were uninspired

:35:31.:35:33.

by the two candidates for President - a third of French voters either

:35:34.:35:37.

abstained, chose neither candidate or spoiled their ballot.

:35:38.:35:39.

Turnout was the lowest in 50 years - though at 74% far higher than in

:35:40.:35:42.

We can speak now to some people who say they've reluctantly voted

:35:43.:35:46.

Amelie Turgis, a French mum and accountant

:35:47.:35:50.

Arthur Gerard, a French citizen living in London

:35:51.:35:54.

And Ines Seddiki, who is a youth worker

:35:55.:35:58.

Welcome to you. Why were you a reluctant footer for Macron? Good

:35:59.:36:13.

morning. I wasn't really convinced by his programme, I'm more on the

:36:14.:36:22.

left-wing of the political scene but I decided to vote for him because I

:36:23.:36:27.

didn't want Marine Le Pen to be our next President, that's the reason

:36:28.:36:31.

why. What about you, and Millie? Similar, really. I voted for the

:36:32.:36:38.

Socialist candidate in the 1st round and I didn't really like Macron's

:36:39.:36:45.

programme because he didn't have anything about ecology or anything

:36:46.:36:49.

like that which matters to me. Arthur, for use? For you it's going

:36:50.:36:56.

to be Macron? There is no question about that but I have to say, I feel

:36:57.:37:03.

pretty much in line with the other persons, exactly. And I think he

:37:04.:37:08.

also doesn't really represent any sort of renewal of the political

:37:09.:37:12.

landscape, to me, he feels like someone who has been growing in that

:37:13.:37:17.

same sort of political environment. And I don't feel like he will be

:37:18.:37:26.

able to deliver the promise of having a brand-new way of doing

:37:27.:37:30.

politics, really. IU per per to give him a chance? I wish him luck, of

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course! We are not savages. But what I want to say is that I think he was

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troubled to get a majority because... That's his next challenge

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and to explain that to our audience, next month Parliamentary elections,

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he's got to try and get some sort of majority if you can. He has no

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party, it's a movement, there is no party, no base there. Yes, and

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actually, I think, this is recent news, I think he said he was

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actually not so much in favour of forcing people out of their

:38:06.:38:11.

traditional parties but he has to compose with a Labour people coming

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from traditional parties, how do you make you politics when you have

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people who had been in this same kind of environment for decades. How

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do you think he's going to, as we said, plenty of people didn't hope

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or spoiled their ballot papers and 11,000,000 people voted for Marine

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Le Pen so how will Emmanuel Macron unite France? It's very important

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what you said. We've been running around like we are giving lessons to

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the UK, to the United States because we didn't vote for the far right but

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11,000,000 people voted for Marine Le Pen and it's too much. And so

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what he tried to do yesterday in his speech, he tried not to point

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fingers at them, to include them in his presidency, the way he did with

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all French people during the campaign, he was, what's good with

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Emmanuel Macron as he has a very inclusive way of campaigning and of

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doing politics, he doesn't point fingers at anyone and I think that's

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what he tried to do yesterday and he said he respected the foot of the

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11,000,000 people, he has heard them, as much as he has heard the

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people who abstained. -- the vote. Just to prevent Marine Le Pen from

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being the next President and I think it was important to say that because

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the people who didn't want to vote in the 1st place because they feared

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there would be a Labour but tensions, the people who didn't want

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to hope for Emmanuel Macron use the argument he would take the votes for

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him and think 65% of the population voted for his programme and I think

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he did the right thing yesterday, what he said will be acknowledged,

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he knows that people, a lot voted for him just to put an end to Marine

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Le Pen. Thank you all so much, we will leave it there. Thank you all.

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Nice to meet you. An investigation by this programme

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has found there are at least 1,400 mistakes made in England's NHS

:40:22.:40:24.

maternity units every week. The true figure could be much higher

:40:25.:40:26.

because only 81 out of 132 Trusts in England responded to our Freedom

:40:27.:40:29.

of Information request. The most serious incidents include

:40:30.:40:32.

the avoidable deaths of mothers and babies as a result of errors

:40:33.:40:34.

by midwives and doctors. The Royal College of Midwives says

:40:35.:40:39.

maternity services are heading towards a crisis because of demands

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on the services. We played you our

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full report earlier. While hundreds of thousands of women

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give birth safely in maternity units across England,

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there are cases where serious Sarah Ellis and her fiance, Adam,

:40:57.:40:59.

lost their baby in 2014. We were left for six hours,

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we didn't really know anything. They just told us, well,

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they just reassured us, didn't they? The inquest later showed Sarah

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should have had an emergency Medical staff failed

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to act on warning signs, and their son Gino was severely

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starved of oxygen. I was in the corridor,

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I was with her mum and dad, and I just said to her mum and dad,

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I said... I said, "How am I going to tell

:41:33.:41:35.

Sarah that he's not all right?" Gino was placed on a life-support

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machine but, just days later, Sarah and Adam were advised

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to withdraw treatment. It's a conversation you never think

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you're going to have to have, is it? How do you discuss how you're

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going to end your son's life? The couple decided

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to take legal action. A coroner's report found

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the hospital missed four Everybody makes mistakes, I do,

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we all do, but to see so many people make so many different mistakes

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within six hours is just shocking. People who you put your trust in,

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your life is in their hands, and Gino's life was in their hands,

:42:20.:42:23.

and they didn't take care of him. We have to live with the fact that

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we're a victim of the NHS. So many babies have lost

:42:28.:42:34.

their lives, and so many families have been destroyed because they're

:42:35.:42:37.

not doing their job right. Sarah and Adam got

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compensation from the Trust. An investigation by this programme

:42:42.:42:44.

has found that at least 1000 mistakes are occurring in England's

:42:45.:42:48.

NHS maternity units each week. We've also found that nearly

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260 mothers or babies These deaths were either unexpected

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or could have been avoided. Only 39 out of 81 Trusts

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responded to this question, so the number of deaths

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could be much higher. The Royal College of Midwives said

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safety is being compromised because of the pressure our

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maternity services are under. We're heading for a crisis

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in our maternity services. The simple truth is,

:43:19.:43:20.

we do not have enough midwives We can't deliver the safest possible

:43:21.:43:23.

care if we don't have enough midwives and enough doctors working

:43:24.:43:27.

in our services. When you go in to have a baby,

:43:28.:43:36.

you expect, you go in with a baby But we went in with a baby seat

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and came out with death certificate. Let's talk now to James Titcombe

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whose nine day old son Joshua died as a result of mistakes

:43:49.:43:51.

in the maternity unit Rachelle Mahapatra, a solicitor

:43:52.:43:53.

who specialises in cases where babies have been left

:43:54.:44:01.

with brain damage. Dr Pat O'Brien, a consultant

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at the Royal College Welcome all of you, James, firstly,

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your reaction to our investigation that over a thousand mistakes are

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being recorded in England paternity units over the next week. We need to

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encourage organisations to report incidents and we need to be careful

:44:25.:44:28.

how we report this but we need to find out why they're happening, are

:44:29.:44:30.

there any themes that represent systemic risks? Pat O'Brien, how do

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you respond? It's a terrible tragedy from a couple lose a baby like this

:44:38.:44:40.

and I heart goes out to them. I think it's 1 of the reasons why the

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Royal Oak at has set up each baby counts campaign, and it aims to

:44:48.:44:50.

reduce the number of stillbirths by 50% over the next few years and we

:44:51.:44:56.

do that by looking at the investigations in Morkel hospitals,

:44:57.:44:58.

look at the lessons learnt and roll them out across the nation and I

:44:59.:45:01.

think that will make a big difference. The most common thing

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that you see in cases of mistakes in maternity units, what would you say?

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I would say basically the main concern is that the investigation

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procedures within hospitals are not deriving enough information and that

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is the only way that hospitals can learn to actually plug the gaps.

:45:20.:45:24.

There used to be consistency of completion of the investigation of

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reports... It's not thorough enough, diligent... They are diligent enough

:45:28.:45:32.

in some of the trusts but it's not consistent and James inquiry,

:45:33.:45:36.

following the sad death of his son found that it's not been implemented

:45:37.:45:41.

and so we are in a situation, if there's going to be a national

:45:42.:45:44.

training scheme, which is going to help to improve the experience for

:45:45.:45:49.

patients and may cause people safer, and stop these people dying,

:45:50.:45:56.

unnecessarily or 129 average annual admitted brain injuries in children

:45:57.:46:02.

that we are seeing from the NHS statistics, then things are not

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going to improve. We need to basically have as much transparency

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as possible. Absolutely, 1 of the 1st reports of the each baby counts

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programme find that, for the serious incident investigations were not

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thorough and a large proportion were failing to involve the parents and I

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think that was your major point. Absolutely. Joshua died in 2008, of

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a preventable infection that could have easily been treated at what

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happened afterwards was even more hard for us because critical records

:46:34.:46:37.

went missing, the investigation report that was done wasn't worth

:46:38.:46:41.

the paper it was written on and very sadly after Joshua died, mothers and

:46:42.:46:45.

babies continue to be at risk up that trust and a number of other

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babies died for similar reasons. And looking back even before that, the

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that that unit that unit that should have been an opportunity to learn

:46:54.:46:57.

was in 2004, that wasn't investigated properly and the whole

:46:58.:47:01.

cascade of events carried on. The point about needing to properly

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investigate and learn and share that learning across the system is

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important. So if 25% of cases aren't

:47:07.:47:14.

investigated is that a lack of skills amongst those carrying out

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the investigation, is it a lack of will because they don't really want

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to know? I don't think it is trying to hide things, I think it is a lack

:47:22.:47:25.

of training and a lack of rigour in the process. Within of the major

:47:26.:47:31.

benefits of this each baby counts campaign will be to look at this and

:47:32.:47:35.

point out that rigour isn't uniform and the first step will be to make

:47:36.:47:39.

sure the serious incident investigations are being carried out

:47:40.:47:42.

in a thorough and open and inclusive way throughout the country. When it

:47:43.:47:49.

comes to compensation for brain injuries, for example, some of the

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pay-outs can be between ?10 million and ?15 million, can't they? Yes.

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How is it assessed to that level? We have a cohort of children who have

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preserved intelligence, but they are very physically disabled so there

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are short bursts of brain damage and they can't speak and they have no

:48:11.:48:16.

physical movement, but they will have quite a normal life expectancy

:48:17.:48:20.

so they cost a lot of money to care for. That's the way we calculate the

:48:21.:48:25.

claims. They can go to school and go to university and they want to

:48:26.:48:28.

actually engage in normal life and independence as much as they can.

:48:29.:48:32.

Technology costs a lot of money. So to be able to operate a speech

:48:33.:48:40.

system we are looking at ?25,000 every time you renew that piece of

:48:41.:48:46.

equipment. The wheelchairs are expensive, it is right that people

:48:47.:48:49.

should have an independent and fulfilled life as possible. I want

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to ask you James how you, so many years on, reflect on the loss of

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your son? Well, it still affects us every day. We are not finished of

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all the investigation processesment even though it's nine years later,

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we have got hearings happening. The saddest thing for me is the themes

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that happened in Joshua's case which was midwives and doctors not working

:49:14.:49:17.

together as one team, failure to risk assess properly, those themes

:49:18.:49:23.

delayed intervention. Families still contact me today having recent

:49:24.:49:28.

tranlg daorks I can't emphasise teamwork, working together, training

:49:29.:49:31.

together and learning from things that go wrong are so important and

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we have not made enough progress in those areas. Why are hearings still

:49:35.:49:38.

going on nine years later? Well, unfortunately this is what the

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process does and things get in the way so after Joshua died there was a

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police investigation, the NMMC processes got put on hold and then

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there was an investigation and everything got put on hold and when

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that happens things cascade and there is one case relate to go

:49:54.:49:58.

Joshua that's still on-going and it's traumatic for everybody. It is

:49:59.:50:01.

desperately sad for us and desperately sad for the staff

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involved. We have got to get to the point where we can learn quickly and

:50:05.:50:07.

be open and honest and understand what went wrok and put things in

:50:08.:50:10.

place to stop that from happening again. Thank you very much for

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coming on the programme. Thank you very much.

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Phillip tweeted us, "You read out comments about voting or not

:50:19.:50:22.

but please run a short video showing how to register by 22nd May."

:50:23.:50:26.

It looks like the new Conservative manifesto will re-commit

:50:27.:52:53.

to the target of reducing net migration to the tens of thousands.

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Though the exact wording is yet to be published,

:52:57.:52:58.

it is a pledge the party has previously failed to meet.

:52:59.:53:03.

In fact Theresa May is talking about it right now. Jeremy Corbyn, who

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just wants to carry on with free movement as it always has been.

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ITV... REPORTER: Hello, Emily Morgan from

:53:17.:53:20.

ITV News, NHS service providers say staff are leaving to go and stack

:53:21.:53:23.

shelves this supermarkets because of poor pay and that's leading to risks

:53:24.:53:29.

in safety. Will you commit to ending the 1% pay cap and if so, when?

:53:30.:53:34.

Well, it is right that the public sector as a whole has had to play

:53:35.:53:39.

its part in dealing overall with what we were left by the last Labour

:53:40.:53:43.

Government which was the worst deficit position that we have seen

:53:44.:53:53.

in peace time and we've had success in bringing the deficit down by

:53:54.:53:56.

two-thirds, but there is more to be done. In relation to NHS pay,

:53:57.:54:02.

actually, if you look at the, not just the basic pay NHS staff get an

:54:03.:54:07.

annual increase of 3% to 4% in their pay, but, of course, we want to see

:54:08.:54:12.

more staff and good staff in the NHS and that's the record we've got as a

:54:13.:54:15.

Conservative Government. More doctors, more nurses, more midwives.

:54:16.:54:19.

It is because we've put the extra funding into the NHS, we have been

:54:20.:54:22.

able to do that, you can only put extra funding into the NHS if you've

:54:23.:54:28.

got a strong economy. STUDIO:

:54:29.:54:29.

Meanwhile, Labour is pledging to tackle what it called

:54:30.:54:42.

the "scandal" of poor health in children by axing all junk food

:54:43.:54:45.

ads before 9pm so they would no longer be shown in prime time

:54:46.:54:48.

programmes like X Factor and Britain's Got Talent.

:54:49.:54:50.

Let's talk now to David Lammy, Labour candidate for Tottenham.

:54:51.:54:52.

And in Blackburn is Nigel Evans, the Conservative candidate

:54:53.:54:54.

Mr Evans, for a third time the Conservatives are going to promise

:54:55.:54:59.

to cut net migration to the tens of thousands. Some voters might be

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forgiven for thinking you're taking the mick? Well, no. I'm not in

:55:02.:55:03.

Blackburn, but I'm in the heart of Lancashire and I'm delighted that

:55:04.:55:06.

that promise st going to be restated in our manifesto. Why should voters

:55:07.:55:10.

believe you this time. It's the third time you would potentially

:55:11.:55:13.

fail to deliver on it? We've missed the targets in the past, but a lot

:55:14.:55:18.

of that is due to the incredibly strong economy where people clearly

:55:19.:55:22.

want to come and live and work in the United Kingdom and the

:55:23.:55:27.

north-west of England too and we've got ma make sure as we leave the

:55:28.:55:29.

European Union we're going to institute a system on controlled

:55:30.:55:35.

immigration, that is actually going to be applicable to 220 countries

:55:36.:55:38.

and not just those outside the European Union. It has got to be one

:55:39.:55:41.

that reflects the needs of the country as well. In Lancashire, in

:55:42.:55:48.

west Lancashire particularly, where there are people grow cabbages and

:55:49.:55:52.

lettuces, there is demand for seasonal labour from Eastern Europe.

:55:53.:55:55.

We have got to have a system that's flexible enough to meet those

:55:56.:56:00.

demands. David Lammy, what's Labour's policy on immigration?

:56:01.:56:03.

Labour have not announced its policy. That's to come in the

:56:04.:56:07.

manifesto. No, seriously, has Labour got one? Well, we will see in the

:56:08.:56:11.

manifesto in ten days time. So you're not sure? I think Jeremy

:56:12.:56:15.

Corbyn said that he accepts there has to be curbs on free movement...

:56:16.:56:20.

I'm not sure he has. Keir Starmer said there has to be changes, but

:56:21.:56:25.

I'm not sure Jeremy Corbyn said. He did repeat what in a speech, but

:56:26.:56:30.

let's see in ten days time what we put in our manifesto. Do you think

:56:31.:56:34.

it is a failing that you haven't talked about immigration when so

:56:35.:56:37.

many Labour voters voted to leave the European Union? Look, I don't

:56:38.:56:40.

think it is surprising to be honest and say the Labour movement has been

:56:41.:56:45.

split on immigration. There have been people within the Labour tribe

:56:46.:56:49.

in a place like London that are very welcoming of those who come into our

:56:50.:56:52.

country, who recognise the contribution that they make, but it

:56:53.:56:56.

is true that in parts of the country, particularly the north,

:56:57.:57:00.

there are deep concerns about immigration and people want to see

:57:01.:57:03.

an end to free movement. But in the end, when you look at what the

:57:04.:57:06.

Conservatives are saying today, they have not met their targets in the

:57:07.:57:10.

past, why would they meet them in the future? When they talk about new

:57:11.:57:14.

free trade deals what would be the first thing about the Indians ask

:57:15.:57:20.

for with their new free trade deals, they will say they want visas and

:57:21.:57:27.

Indians to come to Britain. There is no point in being dishonest not not

:57:28.:57:33.

meet again. When you strike the deals with India, with Brazil and

:57:34.:57:36.

other countries, they will want people to be able to come to this

:57:37.:57:39.

country as we are able to go there. That's a fair point, isn't it,

:57:40.:57:42.

nibblingle Evans that David Lammy makes? Yes, if the Indians have got

:57:43.:57:46.

the right skills that we need in this country then clearly, they will

:57:47.:57:49.

be treated the same as everybody else including those from the 27

:57:50.:57:54.

other countries. Part of the problem as David has intimated is the Labour

:57:55.:57:58.

Party don't have a policy. It really a tail back to when Tony Blair had a

:57:59.:58:02.

free-for-all. It seemed to be an open door policy and the number of

:58:03.:58:07.

people coming in from all over the world was just unsustainable. You

:58:08.:58:12.

really can't have a system whereby for instance when Tony Blair said

:58:13.:58:16.

only 16,000 were galloning... I'm going to stop you because it's

:58:17.:58:20.

coming to the end of the programme and no other reason.

:58:21.:58:24.

Tomorrow we'll be in Camborne in Cornwall asking voters

:58:25.:58:26.

there what issues they care about the most ahead of next

:58:27.:58:29.

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