04/05/2017 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello it's Thursday it's 9am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

France's two presidential hopefuls clash in a heated TV debate

over Islamic extremism, the economy and whether to leave

Euro - the vote's on Sunday -

TRANSLATION: Mr Macron is the candidate of savage

globalisation, uberisation, economic uncertainty, social

TRANSLATION: You have shown you're not the candidate

The question is - do the people want your defeatist attitude?

We'll be speaking to some French people in the next hour.

Also today - the number of men and boys in England seeking help

# Hello from the other side # I must have called 1000 times #

She's now the richest musician

under 30 in the UK - we'll talk to the man

Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11am this morning.

We'll be discussing why more men are seeking help

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First this morning, our royal correspondent Peter Hunt

is here because a meeting has been called at Buckingham Palace

There is no cause for alarm so what is it about? It is one of the cases

where we deal with facts and not dwell on speculation. Organisations

have meetings, the BBC is infamous for its staff meetings. The Palace

is holding a meeting of several hundred people. They have been

called to this meeting. They have these meetings once a year so they

are not regular occurrences but they occur annually, as I say. Like any

other organisation the people at the top of the house like to tell their

staff first rather than you and I discussing it so that is all fine

and dandy with most companies. Is the entire royal house, the royal

residences of Windsor... It's not clear whether they are coming in

from there but certainly all of those from London. Finance dandy for

other organisations but in this information vacuum we are talking

about an institution that has a 91-year-old head of state and a

husband who is 95, so in this vacuum of the early hours of this morning

when it first emerged on Twitter and the media it has been speculated

what it was about. What I can say is that it is not about the health of

the Queen or Prince Philip, 91 and 95, there is no cause for concern

regarding their health. It's not abdication. There is a great Alan

Bennett in bad at the uncommon reader at the staff meeting says,

I'm off. That's not happening at ten o'clock this morning, that is what

we know it isn't. The Queen only yesterday met Theresa May to

dissolve Parliament for the general election, Prince Philip opened a new

stand at Lord's. His infamous line, he is the best plaque unveiling the

world, which I'm sure is the case if you are 95 going on 96 and married

the woman that would become Queen in 1947. That is the case and indeed to

further underline the fact they are finding they should be out and about

today at an engagement later this morning so we will see them. The

Queen has been slowly handing over duties to younger members of the

household. Yes. This announcement, I'm desperately trying not to cross

my line, which is not going to speculation, but I suppose I could

call it informed comment, shall we go with that? If I call it informed

comment it's not impossible this announcement is part of this process

they call transition. The reality is the head of state is 91, hurt heir

is in his late 60s, there has been a process as you say -- her heir.

There isn't a moment when you and I can say this is when she slowed

down. It has been very gradual, for example she isn't at Buckingham

Palace as much as she used to do, the investitures are done more and

more by Prince William, the front trips are done by others other than

herself it could be an announcement other than that. If she's doing

less, are there too many staff at Buckingham Palace? Do they need to

move to other households? It could be that type of announcement on or

it could be something to do with the big thing last year about Buckingham

Palace needing repairs, they got the money from the government when it

was first touted. There was a question of the Queen leaving

Buckingham Palace which was dismissed recently. Are they looking

at that again? Thank you, Peter, for the moment. Peter Hunt will be back

when he knows even more. The two final candidates

in the French presidential election have taken part

in a heated head-to-head debate. Marine Le Pen and Emmanuel Macron

traded insults, with both candidates Macron said his rival,

Le Pen, risked civil war with her policies,

while she accused him of being For the first time, Emmanuel Macron

and Marine Le Pen sat directly Right from the start of this debate

they began their attacks. TRANSLATION: Mr Macron

is the candidate of savage globalisation, uberisation,

economic uncertainty, social brutality, of

"every man for himself." TRANSLATION: You have shown

you are not the candidate The question is, do the people

want your defeatist attitude? You say that globalisation is too

hard for us, so is Europe. "Let's shut the borders and leave

the euro because others At times the moderators barely

managed to get a word in. "I treat the French like adults,"

Mr Macron told her. Marine Le Pen spent much of her time

attacking her opponent. She avoided discussion

of her own proposals. Emmanuel Macron and Marine Le Pen

presented two very different visions of France and theirs was a debate

marked by attacks and accusations. They head out now to the rest

of the country for the final days What people here want to know is,

how would it affect Britain if Marine Le pen wins,

how would it affect the UK Two completely different things.

Emmanuel Macron is a pro EU candidate, he wants the European

Union to reform and to survive and to do well. He would regret Britain

leaving the European Union. I would suspect he would be a pretty tough

negotiator about the terms of Brexit as well but he is a pro-European in

his heart. Marine Le Pen by contrast is not a pro-European, she is

anti-European. I was at a rally the other day in Nice and she had a

picture of her and Nigel Farage on the wall very prominently on one of

the video screens. She would seek to have a referendum following the

Brexit referendum about France's membership of the EU. Whether or not

she wins, whether or not the referendum would be held are several

questions down the line but there is a clear difference between their

views about the European Union and how that might affect Britain. Thank

you, James. Here is an eat in the newsroom with the rest of the day's

news stories. There's been a sharp rise

in the number of men being treated for eating disorders such

as anorexia and bulimia, according Figures obtained through a Freedom

of Information request showed the number of males receiving

out-patient treatment in England is rising at double the rate

of female patients - although women still account

for the majority of people treated. Voters are heading to

the polls today for local Seats on 88 councils will be

decided, including all those Voters in England will select new

members of 32 councils and in six English regions Metro Mayors will be

elected for the first time. The first results are

expected in the early hours Researchers have developed a blood

test which could prevent thousands of men with advanced prostate

cancer from undergoing The technique - which costs

less than ?50 a time - will help doctors tell

whether patients will respond to the standard drugs used

to fight the disease. An Australian woman who killed her

seven children and a niece in 2014 will not stand trial,

because it's been ruled she wasn't A court in Queensland said

40-year-old Raina Thaiday could not be

held criminally responsible for the deaths because she had

suffered a psychotic episode. The children, who were aged

between two and 14, From midnight on Friday,

shops will no longer have to accept The Bank of England says

there are still 150 million They're being replaced by a new,

tougher, plastic note, which is designed to last

more than twice as long. Facebook's profits have jumped

in the first three months of this year to more than ?2.4 billion -

a 76% rise year-on-year. The social network said

it is approaching two However, executives warned that

growth in ad revenues would slow down, as the company is facing

a limit on the number of adverts The announcement comes as its chief

executive Mark Zuckerberg announced it would be hiring 3,000 more

moderators to help fight hate speech, child abuse

and self-harm on the site. Adele has become the richest

musician under 30 according to this The singer's fortune has reached

?125 million, up 50% She's the only female solo artist

to make the list, which is topped We'll speak to the man

who discovered her just before 10am. That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 9.30am. Do get in touch with us

throughout the morning - use the #VictoriaLIVE

and if you text, you will be charged Let's get some sport,

Olly Foster is with us this morning. It's been a busy week of European

football Olly and tonight, we see the last British team

standing Manchester United. Manchester United are in Spain

playing Celta Vigo, the first leg of their Europa League semifinal, this

is the second tier of European competition. Now, here's the rub.

The Europa League carries with it if you win it a place in next year's

Champions League if you finish in the top four in the Premier League

you also get into the Champions League. Manchester United are in a

dogfight for the top four, they are faith a point from the top four but

Jose Mourinho has pretty much admitted that the best chance for

Manchester United to get into next season's Champions League, they've

been out of it for the last couple of seasons, would be to wind up

Europa League. They are three matches from doing that and have

four matches left in the Premier League including tricky trips to

Arsenal and Spurs. He's threatening to rest players against Arsenal this

weekend. That will not make some of those other teams happy at all.

Gunners fans will be pleased at that. Here is Jose Mourinho on their

changing priorities this season. I think it would be a good achievement

with so many problems that we have had and would allow us to be back to

Champions League next season. So we have to try. That's what we are

going to do. And honestly the Europa League has become for us now more

important. If Manchester United make it through those two legs against

Celta Vigo Ajax should be their opponents, 4-1 winners at Amsterdam

last night against Lyon, Bertrand Traore on loan from Chelsea scored

twice for them, so they are looking very good for that final. We will

see how United get onto night in the first leg of their is.

The Champions League, we have a good idea who will be in the Champions

League final next month. We do, we have only had the first

legs this week, real Madrid beat Atletico 3-0, Cristiano Ronaldo with

a hat-trick earlier this week. Last night Juventus beat Monaco 2-0 in

Monaco. Gonzalo Higuain scored twice for them. Juve, famed for their

defence, they have only conceded twice in the Champions League this

season. Not at all in the knockout stage, and that includes two matches

against Barcelona as well. Monaco really disappointing, really free

scoring but Juve looking very good to go to the final just like Real

Madrid. It's that time of the season when penalty shoot outs can decide a

lot of games but Uefa will try something new with spot kicks. You

know the score, after extra time the captain step up and Flickr coin to

see who goes first in the dreaded penalty shoot out.

-- flip a coin. Whoever goes first usually wins because you ever worked

out there is a 60% chance of winning if you go first. That was the last

FA Cup final settled on penalties, Liverpool beaten by West Ham. Uefa

says it's not fair for the team going first because it is stacked in

their favour. They are driving this at the men's European under 17s

championship and the women's competition in the Czech Republic.

At the moment the first team goes first, then the second team and then

the first team and then the second team until you have five or go to

sudden death. Rather than this they want A-B-B-A so Thiney goes first

and then team the ghost twice, they are calling it the advert system. --

team a. Thank you. Good morning and welcome

to the programme. It's been successful

in policing and it's even Now staff working in one mental

health unit are looking at whether bodycams can help prevent

confrontational situations with patients from

spiralling out of control. Staff involved in a trial

in Northampton say they felt more confident with the cameras

on and the use of emergency The scheme will now be

assessed and could be Let's talk now to Ellie Surey

who helped to develop the body cam technology -

she'll be showing us some Gary Molloy was restrained over ten

times during his treatment in a mental health unit -

he says he's encouraged that body cams appear to be lowering the need

for restraint in the trial. Joining us from Northamptonshire

Trust where the technology was trialled is Dr Alex

O'Neill-Kerr. Hi, he's behind you if you want to

turn around and look at him. Good morning. Can you explain the link

between your staff wearing a body camera and the decrease in the

number of times you have to restrain a patient in an emergency situation?

Well, that wasn't the purpose of doing the evaluation. No, but it is

very interesting, isn't it? Very interesting indeed, and we need to

do a longer period of work on that to see if that is sustained. What do

you think the link could be? Well, human behaviour it is what it is.

And I think the people seeing that a camera is going to be used may not

then start acting out for example, staff tell me that when a camera is

turned on, patience. Kicking doors or banging windows. We hope also

that by using the camera early on that weekend the escalate the

situation early on so we don't have to use of urgency restraint. We know

that emergency restraint physical health issues. Anything we can do to

reduce that would be very beneficial for patients, but also for staff,

because staff also get injured when they perform restraint on patients.

At the end of the day these are patients, they are not criminals, we

don't want to restrain people but sometimes because of their mental

health problems they behave and become aggressive unfortunately.

Gary, can you describe what it is like being restrained? A really

traumatic experience, so much fear based around that and because I was

so ill I did not know what was going on. I felt quite honourable and

humiliated at the same time. Practically what does it involve?

When you are quite aggressive, and in my state of manic behaviour,

sometimes five or six nurses kind of hold you down. It was back in the

90s, so quite a long time ago and it was different, but it was quite

extreme, they would hold your face down, it was difficult to breathe.

People always did get their limbs broken and people unfortunately did

die. Really extreme experience and the fear around it and the trauma of

years afterwards was the difficult thing. Thankfully I have had

counselling for years to deal with the trauma that continues. Did you

have lashed backs? Yes, because it happened so much in that 10-year

period. What do you think of the idea of cameras? Cameras could be

good and bad. If it is monitoring people and how they do it is a good

thing. If it develops empathy which shows how the nurses are doing the

training and the restraint and then they can look at seeing how it is

done through the cameras and work on that, but having your humiliation

and vulnerability films could be difficult for the patient as well.

So I think there are positives and negatives in it. That is

interesting, but as Alex says, there has been a reduction, and it is

early stages, but initial findings would suggest that is encouraging.

As Alex said, it is not only unpleasant for the patient but also

for the member of staff as well. Let's have a look at these cameras

and if you wouldn't mind demonstrating, that would be

amazing. Cameras, as much as we have police cameras, these are focused

much towards a softer environment. This is one to you. Why don't you

turn your chair and a bit as well. The user pushes a flick of a switch

up the record. This is held on with a magnet. They would go through

quite a link the process before they chose to record. This is a final

point. You have a screen on the front so people can actively say

they are being recorded, they are not trying to hide anything, it

would only happen in the final stage of a scenario. We encrypt the data

on a camera so it is secure, uploaded to a secure environment.

Only people who have been granted access can review the footage. Any

trust would have a policy that would ensure only specific people can

access and will only review if there is a cause to do so. In terms of the

results, what do you take from it so far, again, early stages but really

interesting. It was a feasibility study, we wanted to see if it was

practical. I have spent a lot of time with the trust and some of the

feedback from the nursing staff and patients is for me personally better

than I thought they would be. What were members of staff saying to you?

They felt safe to, more in control of the situation, it gave them time

to think about it. Even the patients saying they felt safer as well. That

is something we would have liked to have had heard, and we did hear it.

It is early days but we will invest hopefully with the trust to further

evaluate what this could do and what benefits it could bring into the

NHS. Alex, can you see this being rolled out for use in the other

parts of the NHS? I think if the promising results that we've shown,

and we have shown it is feasible, so that is good, the next stage is to

see whether or not there is an improvement in quality and safety as

we have already seen, in terms of the early data. And I would like to

see it rolled out because this is not something we would particularly

want to do, the emergency restraint. Anything we could do to reduce that

will have a very big impact on patient care for stop we know how

difficult it is for people. What about, as Gary suggested, as a

patient, the act of being restrained in an emergency situation, it being

filmed, it being recorded, it being kept. You could imagine that would

psychologically be painful. Yes, you could, but what happened in reality

as the patients by saying yes, please fill me because I want to

make sure you are doing this properly. I agree there are issues

around confidentiality that was part of the evaluation, can we do this

safely, can we maintain data protection? And we would like to see

how it might be used in terms of training for example, staff, but

also for patients as a debrief. Nice says after an emergency restraint

there should be a debrief, and a video that might be helpful to

patients. Not everyone, but we might want to see whether further things

could come out of this evaluation. We ask if we could show footage from

the body can but we understand we can't because of patient

confidentiality. No. Gary, you experienced this ten times.

Roundabout that, through a 10-year period. When people are angry and

aggressive it is more of a cry for help than someone being gratuitous

violence or something. So I think the empathy and the compression is

important. Anything that will lessen the pain of the restraint is the key

thing. It is such a painful experience. You mean physically and

mentally. Wie yes. But also the area that has been filmed, and it is

quite a humiliating experience for stop so I think positives, but those

areas have to be looked at as well. How much are these? We haven't

finalised pricing but it will be around ?250. OK, that is quite a lot

of money. I appreciate what you have all said about the potential

benefits so far. So one of the things we will do everything his

incredibly valuable is to understand what benefits it does actually bring

to the NHS. At a time when funding for the NHS is really tight, is

there actually a financial benefit? It would be a valuable investment.

That is part of where we engaged with the trust, through such a

lengthy process, to put something out there that actually works and

does what we believe it does. So Alex, the next age view is what

regarding these body cams and your members of staff? So we are going to

move to putting the body cameras into our catering mental health

hospital. We have two mental health units. We have already had meetings

with our research Fellows to put a proper research evaluation together,

in terms of juicing the emergency restraint but also looking at

patient acceptability and what patients feel about use of the body

camera. But I have to say, all of the quality increments we have made

have saved money. I absolutely agree that I think while these things

could be expensive in the long-term I think they would improve patient

quality and that is the most important thing. Thank you very

much, all of you. Really appreciate it. 25 past nine.

Facebook are hiring three thousand extra people to moderate

Users have reached nearly 2 billion. Let's talk today believe. He is our

business technology correspondent. Tell us more. A very good day for

Facebook, they announced their latest earnings, the judgment in the

last three months of their business and compare to this time last year,

they made 76% more money in the last three months, they made just over $3

billion in profit. So a sign of Facebook's business being really

healthy. As you mentioned, they are hurtling towards that 2 billion user

mark, they probably will surpass that at some point in the next year.

And they are able to turn all those users to click advertising,

particularly on mobile, which has been a big growth area in the last

couple of years. So Facebook feeling very confident, although as you

mentioned one of the problems they do have at the moment is this

concern over violent content being broadcast or uploaded to Facebook,

and indeed child abuse images as well, which a BBC investigation made

light of recently. So too, that they have said they will employ 3000 more

people to moderate this content, and the idea perhaps is that this

content won't be on Facebook for as long as it has been in the last few

recent examples. Successive Facebook but an eye on making some

improvements. You talked about the growth of revenue from advertising.

Have Pete there, because there are only so many adverts you can get on

a Facebook page, isn't there? Yes, and in deed, shares in Facebook,

despite record highs, shares on Facebook went down after trading,

and that is because yes, they have said they are kind of worried they

have plateaued their mobile advertising. As you mentioned, there

is only so much space on the news feed that the full scroll through

for those advertisements to live. One thing they say they are looking

to do more of is the target users on Instagram, so that is the image

sharing social network that Facebook also owns. They are hoping to ramp

up advertising on Instagram, perhaps putting adverts within videos and so

on. So there is still space to grow but they are warning investors, you

know what, we might not be able to sell or keep growing in the way we

have when it comes to advertising on mobile devices. Cheers, Dave, thank

you. come, the two French presidential

candidates had a heated debate on French TV last night.

We'll be speaking to the man that discovered Adele.

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of todays news.

The two final candidates in the French presidential

election have taken part in a heated head-to-head debate.

Marine Le Pen and Emmanuel Macron traded insults, with both candidates

Macron said his rival, Le Pen, risked civil war with her policies,

while she accused him of being complacent

A meeting of Buckingham Palace household staff this morning

is 'not a cause for alarm', the BBC understands.

Officials at the palace have not said what the meeting will be about,

but it is reported to involve all senior staff from across the UK.

It is NOT believed to be anything to do with the health of either

There's been a sharp rise in the number of men being treated

for eating disorders such as anorexia and bulimia, according

Figures obtained through a Freedom of Information request showed

the number of males receiving out-patient treatment in England

is rising at double the rate of female patients -

although women still account for the majority of people treated.

Voters are heading to the polls today for local

Seats on 88 councils will be decided, including all those

Voters in England will select new members of 32

councils, and in six English regions Metro Mayors will be

The first results are expected in the early hours

Researchers have developed a blood test which could prevent thousands

of men with advanced prostate cancer from undergoing

The technique - which costs less than ?50 a time -

will help doctors tell whether patients will respond

to the standard drugs used to fight the disease.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10:00am.

Oh! Olly Foster is not ready but that's fine because any moment now

he will be. We will talk about the French elections. It was our fault

for going too early to him. We will talk about the French elections.

The choice facing French voters this weekend could not be more stark.

Their next president will be either Marine Le Pen or Emmanuel Macron -

and they could not be more far apart politically.

Marine Le Pen is strongly anti-immigration, wants to ban

the Muslim head scarf and is keen to leave the EU.

Emmanuel Macron launched his own party to run for President -

and has never held any elected office.

He's very pro-EU - but says he wants to reform it.

Here's what they had to say for themselves last night.

TRANSLATION: Mr Macron is the candidate of savage

globalisation, uberisation, economic uncertainty, social

TRANSLATION: You have shown that you are not the candidate

The question is - do the people want your defeatist attitude?

You say globalisation is too hard for us, so is Europe.

And again, you're protecting the big groups and the big companies.

They're your friends, people you have a drink with.

Madame Le Pen, the French people deserve better than this.

You've been a minister of the economy, an adviser

Well, if you have the recipe to reduce unemployment,

Your strategy has been the same for decades,

Making many lies and saying everything doesn't

Because if you look, taxes have gone down.

While you were doing your act for the cameras, I was meeting

with workers' representatives, because I respect them.

They understood very well that you have nothing to offer them.

Well yes, because they are angry, and I accept that anger.

You're playing with their anger, Madame Le Pen.

The safety of our people, the fight against terror

You don't want to take it on and I know why.

Against terrorism, we need to close our borders straightaway.

And that is what I will do the moment I take power.

There are many countries outside of Schengen area that have been hit

as hard as us by terrorist attacks, and since 2015, we've put back

We can get more reaction to that debate now and look forward

to the results of the election with Agnes Poirier,

journalist and commentator, Pierre Briancon,

a senior writer at the website Politico, who's based

Mikael Sala, an adviser to Marine Le Pen

and we were due to be speaking to an adviser for Emmanuel Macron

but this morning she has had to pull out.

But which one do you think will be feeling happier this morning?

Probably Emmanuel Macron. You have to realise that that kind of debate

is the climax of the second round campaigning in France and the

political theatre and pantomime has been going on and we love it and we

watch it, 60 million people watched it yesterday. Marine Le Pen fed

terribly bad. Why do you say that? It was a car crash debate because

she didn't engage in the conversation or the debate, she just

attacked him personally, or on the fact that he was the minister with

Francois Hollande. He attacked her as well and said she was the high

priestess of fear. Yes, that's true but he had to respond in some way

and was extremely calm considering all of the attacks he got. On the

economy, for instance, that was extremely striking. He talked about

his programme and she didn't at all, she didn't explain what she would

do. The economy is not her forte. She got into a bit of a muddle about

her own views on the Euro and whether France would have its own

currency or continue with the Euro. She said we would have a referendum

but she would also at the same time renegotiate all of the treaties, she

would leave the euro but stay in the EU, it didn't make any sense. He

actually was quite good at pointing out the vagueness, if not the

madness of what she was proposing. Mikael Sala, you are an adviser to

Marine Le Pen, you have heard from Agnes Poirier, the vagueness and

madness of what your Candela proposes. What do you say to that? I

have heard Agnes talk about Marine Le Pen faring badly and I'm going to

tell you who is faring badly. France is faring very badly. Where it

really -- Lemmy remind what Emmanuel Macron has done for the last five

years, he's been the general secretary of the Elysee, the first

economic adviser to Francois Hollande and then the minister of

the economy, and let me tell you, during the last five years every 30

seconds there has been a job slashed in France, every other minute a

small business has gone bankrupt in France. In the meantime we have

suffered 250 dead from terror attacks, 800 wounded. In the last

year Germany has accumulated a trade surplus of 300 billion euros while

France has struggled with a trade deficit of 50 billion euros. So let

me tell you one thing, France is faring very, very badly. The good

news is that from Monday morning, May the 8th 2017, onwards, it will

change because Marine Le Pen will be elected by a vast majority of French

who are sick and tired of the mess this country has been put in by

Francois Hollande and Emmanuel Macron. Can I ask a question, Mikael

Sala? If that's the case, use a Monday morning she will be the

President, what will happen between now and then to shift the fact

Emmanuel Macron is 20% ahead in the polls? Nothing is going to happen to

shift, because let me tell you, in what way the polls do not reflect

the reality. Don't, it's fine. Let me bring in Pierre Briancon. Hello,

what has been the reaction in France? Well, the overwhelming

impression, as Agnes said, Mike wrong'un heads down by a big margin,

by a big distance -- Macron won hands down. She is trailing far

behind. Her tactic, if it can be called so, was to destabilise him,

which she tried to do with relentless attacks, refraining and

refusing actually come to talk about her own platform or programme. She

borrowed from the populist playbook inasmuch as substance doesn't really

matter and she doesn't really care about showing a very poor grasp of

issues like... Sorry, Pierre. Did you learn anything last night from

that debate you didn't know before? Did the French public learn

anything? Absolutely not, this was a very long two and a half hours, your

short extracts gave a good indication of people talking above

each other and not really listening to each other. But the contrast was

very stark. Macron had to appear presidential. He had to show that he

wouldn't be destabilised by her relentless attacks. I will just

pause you because Mikael Sala is laughing his head off at that, why

is that? Macron could be the President of a start-up company in

the Silicon Valley but the President of the country will have to face of

Vladimir Putin or Donald Trump, this is not serious, this is a joke. I

just want to ask something. Who is lecturing us on the economy? Someone

who has been in charge for the last five years. And who has caused 1.2

million unemployed? Who can lecture us on this topic? Are we having a

debate now? Do you mind if I answer your previous question before the

gentleman came into the studio? You asked what would lead us to a Marine

Le Pen victory? I will tell you three things. The first thing is the

Republican Conservatives who voted for Francois Fillon in the first

round, a good chunk of them will never ever vote for five more years

of socialist hell because Emmanuel Macron, along with his mentor

Francois Hollande, have created 35 billion in extra taxes in the last

five years. The Republicans, the Conservative Republicans, will never

for a great majority of them choose five years of socialist hell. I am

going to let Pierre Briancon comeback in. My impression was we

were talking about last night's debate so I may talk to you. The

future of France, France is on the verge of... Go ahead, Pierre

Briancon. The question is whether it has moved people. The overwhelming

impression is that Macron won hands down. Did it move people? Don't

forget that the people decide. Don't do... Don't do the Le Pen number on

me, I am not a Macron representative. The question, does

it move votes and can move enough votes between now and Sunday? The

answer usually... The people who voted for Francois Fillon... Please,

let me bring in Agnes. British people will be interested to know

the outcome, we have to wait until the weekend. What difference will it

make to Britain and the relationship to France if Marine Le Pen wins or

Emmanuel Macron wins? Nigel Farage tweeted yesterday that he fully

supported Marine Le Pen. It's obvious that Brexiteers would love

to see Frexit and therefore Marine Le Pen is their choice of candidate.

Now, the French might not oblige the Brexit tears and might on Sunday

collect a pro-European candidate and Emmanuel Macron. So Emmanuel Macron

is not going to make it easy. But Angela Merkel is not going to make

it easy. And actually 27 members of the European Union are not going to

make it easy for Britain. You know, it's going to be a difficult

negotiation. Thank you all very much for your time. Agnes Poirier,

journalist and commentator, Pierre Briancon, senior writer at Politico,

based in Paris, and Mikael Sala, an adviser to Marine Le Pen. We had

booked to speak to an adviser to Emmanuel Macron but she pulled out

this morning. Thank you for your comments about the trials of body

cameras in a mental health unit in Northamptonshire. This tweet from

marine says NHS body camps should be extended to social care for elderly

people and two children's units. Max says body cameras would help save

money on the legal costs if there is a dispute over a problem and would

make the process quicker. Neal says, I am a mental health nurse and have

worked for five years on a psychiatric mental health unit and

have dealt with numerous incidents involving restraint. Having camera

technology on the ward can have a positive and negative affect. Some

patients I've cared for have been deeply suspicious or are worried

about surveillance. However, working towards a way of using this

technology to help would be great providing patients gave their

permission. I would like to add that restraint face down is no longer

used in our units that I've worked in any way. Health monitoring and

debriefs are advised I'm are enshrined in policy and safeguarding

patients is paramount and restraint is used as a last resort. If you

have any personal experience please get in touch.

It's been ten years since Adele released her first track,

and since then she's become one of the world's most

She's just finished a global tour where she performed to more

And she's now the richest musician under 30 in the UK and Ireland.

The new rich list published by the Sunday Times shows she's now

worth ?125 million - 50% more than she was last year.

The last 12 months have underlined Adele's position

Her third album "25" has now sold more than 20 million

On her latest tour, she has performed at 122 concerts -

to a total audience of more than 1 million fans.

# It clearly doesn't tear you apart any more #

# Or should I just keep chasing pavements?

It was clear from her early music ten years ago

that she was something special - winning the Criticss Choice Award

at the Brits, and coming first on the BBC's Sound of 2008 list.

# Should I give up, or should I just keep chasing pavements?

Her second album, "21", established her as a star.

It became the biggest selling album of 2011 and 2012.

# Never mind I'll find someone like you...#

It won Record Of The Year and Album Of The Year

at the Grammys, as well as Best Album at the Brits -

although, controversially, her acceptance speech was cut short,

Yeah, I'd like to say I got cut off during my speech for Best Album,

But that finger was to the suits of the Brit Awards, not to my fans.

I was about to thank the British public.

In 2015, she admitted briefly to me that expectation was somewhat high

Adele, a lot of expectation after 21?

Yeah, I dunno, everything's always going to follow 21 after this

My fifth album from now will follow 21.

# When the rain is blowing in your face...#

she also showed her sense of humour, pretending to be

# I will offer you a warm embrace...#

The clip has been watched 58 million times on YouTube.

And, if she needed any more reassurance about her immense

popularity, last summer's Glastonbury will have given her that

as more than 100,000 fans flocked to see and hear her sing.

Glastonbury, do it one more time for me.

# Never mind, I'll find someone like you

# I wish nothing but the best for you too

Let's talk to Katie Markham, an Adele impersonator

who met her during that Graham Norton sketch where the real

Adele took part, pretending to be a would-be Adele,

Kevin Hughes from Heart Radio who's interviewed her,

and Nick Huggett who first discovered her.

How? I was fortunate for someone to send me her MySpace link. Seems

quite unfashionable. It really does. But it changed my life. I heard the

voice, and the hairs on the back of my neck went up and I was blown

away. I just thought I need to meet this girl. And when you met her?

Just everything you would hope for when you meet a new artist, you

know? Very confident, charismatic, just great. Amazing personality,

totally, as you say. How easy was it to get a record deal? For me to get

a record deal for her, I work for the record company, so I signed her.

It was relatively easy, because she was unknown, you now. How does it

work you go into the company and say I have met this woman, she sings,

she writes, she is character Matt, she is normal, signed her. And they

go yes -- charismatic. Yes, because I had a bit of a track record before

that, it was Excel, a great company and they supported me. Katie,

obviously you met her too during that Graham Norton sketch. What was

that like? Unbelievable, unbelievable. Very surprising,

because we weren't told anything about it, and we just turned up

thinking it was an audition, and the next minute you know, Adele is dead

in was performing. So from just walking in the meeting my idol, who

I love, it was amazing, yeah. And from that meeting it has change your

life as well. Describe how. Pretty much was that I have been performing

as Adele for probably about five years, and just on the small side of

it, but from being on the BBC, it has just catapulted me off into all

the theatres now. Now someone like you, the ten one song with

performing across the UK and Ireland, as the lead vocalist,

performing as ten one, so it is great fun. I said I wasn't going to

ask you the same, but I want to now, is that unfair because it is ten to

ten. Go on, blast Oscar Ouma just literally that blah -- that bar.

# Hello from the other side, I must have come a thousand times, to tell

you I'm sorry for ever think that I've done, but when I call you, you

never seem to be home. Wow, that is a blooming hard tuned to sing

actually forced up Kevin, hello! High, the junior Gunn Victoria. She

is normal, that is what I love about her. Absolutely, she sings about

songs of life, love and loss. Heartbreak songs. It sounds like she

might have written a drunk diary but then we get someone like you, one of

the greatest songs of the 21st-century from the fourth Belling

-- fourth best selling album. We needed to see her on tour, and at

Glastonbury Festival, she delivers a great stand-up show in between the

songs. She has this infectious personality, and she hasn't changed

in the last ten years. I first met her in 2007, did one of her first

radio interviews, and I realised then she was the real deal. Raw

talent but self assured and confident and ridiculously

personable. I don't think she has changed in the last ten years as

well, so I am not surprised to see her climbing the ranks today on the

Sunday Times Rich list. Let's just peel that back, she is now worth

?125 million according to that which list, but you say I don't think she

has changed. Some things in her life have definitely changed. Do you

think it is still possible to be like you were when you are that

loaded? That is a very good question. I think she has managed to

get away with it in the sense that we don't read an awful lot about ten

one's private life, we don't know what is going on about her family

life, and away from the spotlight. But every time I have seen her on

stage, and at awards ceremonies or at the Brit awards, red carpets, in

my opinion she is still the same ten one, she is keeping it real, her

feet on the ground and I really love that about her and I think that is

why music fans around the world connect with her. Nick, is she still

the same? Absolutely. Not changed at all. She is great, the girl that I

met ten years ago. And she sang at your wedding. She did. Imagine

having ten one sing at your wedding! At the time, no one knew who she

was. Me and my wife loved her music, her voice, and I was quite nervous

asking her, you know? But she agreed to do it, and I am always eternally

grateful for that. She is obviously very, very busy, but as Kevin says,

she does manage to keep her private life private, she doesn't play that

showbiz game. She has never been interested in it, she is a musician

and an artist, that is all she has ever wanted to be. She is not

interested in fame also liberty. And in fact sometimes she has opened up

a bit, where you get the impression that fame, that pressure hassles

her. It is very hard to deal with. I have worked in the music business

for a long, long time, and seen it over and over again. It brings a lot

of pressure, but I think out of anyone I have worked with she has

probably dealt with at the best. She is infinitely the most successful

artist I have worked with. Yes, she likes to keep herself to herself, I

think. It is interesting, because it shows you can be as globally famous

as she is and still have a private life, if you choose not to do the

showbiz thing. You don't see her on the red carpet, you never read

Tittle tattle in the papers because obviously she has a very close-knit

circuit around her. And that is what makes her particularly fascinating

and interesting so that when she does appear on stage or a TV show,

or later this year when she goes to when the stadium for her sold-out

nights there, there will be a huge fizzle of interest and intrigue.

Because we would like to know what Adele has to say because we don't

see her every other day. She isn't on the red carpet, doesn't attend

parties or premiers, and she doesn't need to. That is the key thing. She

has delivered three of the quality albums that are three of the biggest

selling records of all time now, phenomenal sales was that this is

why she has increased her revenue by 50% in the last year. People want to

buy the songs, listen to the songs and go and see her live. Thank you,

Kevin, Katie and Nick. Ed Sheeran has a reputation

as one of music's most And he's treated a ten year old girl

with Rett's syndrome, a rare physical and mental

disability, to her own private gig Melody Driscoll is unable

to go to Ed's concerts # It's just something

that I want to do. # Well, me - I fall in love

with you every single day. In a moment, the weather and the

latest news and sport. We will be on the road, I have not had a drink, we

are on the road over the next couple of weeks travelling to all parts of

the UK to see what you think about the election, and what things matter

to you. So get in touch. We will be in the Scottish borders, the Welsh

valleys, Cornwall, send me an e-mail and hopefully we can meet up. He is

the latest weather, our own human sunbeam, Carol. Good morning,

Victoria, I think you should have had a drink, still time! We have had

a wide variety of weather, rather like yesterday, this picture is from

one of our Weather Watchers, Herne Bay in Kent. We had some rain early

on but there is a fair bit of cloud around in South Wales at the moment

and you will hang on to a favourite of cloud as you go onto the day. The

Cumbria, lovely blue skies, and we have also got blue skies in

Stornoway as well. A loss of sunshine around here first thing

this morning. You will hang onto it as we go through the course of the

day today as well. So we do have a bit of a North- south split in the

weather. So this morning, while there are some cloud around, you can

see it quite nicely on the satellite picture comes across East Anglia and

some high cloud as we push further north. It is the high cloud across

northern England, Scotland and Northern Ireland that will melt away

and you will have more or less unbroken blue skies. Through the day

too, you will notice some of this cloud retreating back down to the

vigilance and parts of Wales, it will brighten up in the North

Midlands, Derbyshire, Staffordshire and parts of Wales. But close to the

East coasts of both Scotland and England, a keen breeze will make it

seem colder. A lot of sunshine in northern England, Scotland, the West

Highlands, set fair for 20 Celsius. In Northern Ireland, 16 to 18, maybe

19 Celsius through the day. Moving over towards Wales brightening up

for the time. We will have areas of cloud coming and going as we will

indeed across south-west England. But some brighter breaks. But that

cloud is still thick enough just the odd shower. Showers across southern

areas in the East Anglia will be fairly hit and miss through the

course of the day full stop by no means will we all see one. As we had

on through the evening and overnight, still this keen wind

coming in from the North Sea, quite a lot of cloud, one or two showers,

as we push north from the North Midlands in the northern England,

Scotland and Northern Ireland, under clear skies will quite cold.

Especially so in the countryside, as these temperatures indicate. Cold

enough for a touch of frost. Again, rather like this morning. So

tomorrow is where we will start off with the sunshine across northern

England, North Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. Brightening up for

a time across parts of the Midlands but all this cloud in the south

pushes just a little bit further north. Temperatures still down the

east coast a bit lower because we still have that easterly flow but

we're looking at a range of roughly ten to 15. Temperatures coming down

a touch across Scotland, Northern Ireland and northern England to

pedal we are looking at today. As we had on from Friday evening in the

Saturday, as these weather systems approach, initially they will

introduce some showers to the south-west, then we will see some

rain coming in across south-west England to the Channel Islands. The

timing and the placement of this could well change, but away from

that rain, we will be looking at a fair bit of cloud, still some

sunshine but still the onslaught -- the onshore flow. As we head into

the weekend we lose that system, pushes away the veneer consonant,

allowing it to dry up behind it, variable amounts of cloud, more in

the north and we have seen. The wind changes direction, still coming from

the North in some way so still feeling that bit cooler in eastern

parts of the UK but that will change as we go into next week.

Thank you, Carol, it's Thursday, ten o'clock, good morning.

From the start it was a debate full of hostility, tension and insults

as the two candidates in france's presidential election clashed ahead

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We will speak to politicians who are friends with both of the candidates

later on. Anorexia is sometimes seen as

an illness suffered mainly by women. But the number of young men

seeking help for eating Logically I know that I need to eat

to live and it doesn't make a blind bit of difference because every time

I try any I can't. We'll be speaking to a man who's

experienced anorexia, as well as someone from

an eating disorder charity. New figures suggest fewer people

in Britain drink alcohol. We'll be asking what this says

about our changing habits. And if you are young or don't really

drink, or somebody who has chosen to give up alcohol altogether as a

lifestyle choice, get in touch and we will get you on the programme in

the next hour. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news. The two final candidates

in the French presidential election have taken part

in a heated head-to-head debate. Marine Le Pen and Emmanuel Macron

traded insults, with both candidates Macron said his rival, Le Pen,

risked civil war with her policies, while she accused him

of being complacent Staff at Buckingham Palace have been

called to a household meeting this morning but the BBC has been told

there is no cause for alarm. Officials at the palace have not

said what the meeting will be about, But it is not believed to involve

anything about the health of the Queen or the Duke of Edinburgh.

There's been a sharp rise in the number of men being treated

for eating disorders such as anorexia and bulimia, according

Figures obtained through a Freedom of Information request showed

the number of males receiving out-patient treatment in England

is rising at double the rate of female patients -

although women still account for the majority of people treated.

Voters are heading to the polls today for local

Seats on 88 councils will be decided, including all those

Voters in England will select new members of 32 councils and in six

English regions Metro Mayors will be elected for the first time.

The first results are expected in the early hours

The number of new cars registered in the UK fell nearly 20% in April

compared to the same period last year, according to the Society

The SMMT says many people had rushed to buy in March, ahead of changes

to the Vehicle Excise Duty regime, which came into force

Registrations of electric and hybrid cars fell for the first

Researchers have developed a blood test which could prevent thousands

of men with advanced prostate cancer from undergoing

The technique - which costs less than ?50 a time -

will help doctors tell whether patients will respond

to the standard drugs used to fight the disease.

An Australian woman who killed her seven children and a niece in 2014

will not stand trial, because it's been ruled she wasn't

A court in Queensland said 40-year-old Raina Thaiday could not

be held criminally responsible

for the deaths because she had suffered a psychotic episode.

The children, who were aged between two and 14,

From midnight on Friday, shops will no longer have to accept

The Bank of England says there are still 150 million

They're being replaced by a new, tougher, plastic note,

which is designed to last more than twice as long.

Facebook's profits have jumped in the first three months of this

year to more than ?2.4 billion - a 76% rise year-on-year.

The social network said it is approaching two

However, executives warned that growth in ad revenues would slow

down, as the company is facing a limit on the number of adverts

The announcement comes as its chief executive Mark Zuckerberg announced

it would be hiring 3,000 more moderators to help fight

hate speech, child abuse and self-harm on the site.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30am.

Thank you. We have breaking news from Buckingham Palace, the Duke of

Edinburgh who is 95 will no longer carry out public engagements from

autumn of this year. Buckingham Palace has announced that in the

last few seconds. That was what the meeting was all about and the Royal

Household were called to a meeting at Buckingham Palace at 10am this

morning and the breaking news is Prince Philip, who is 95, will no

longer carry out public engagements from the autumn of this year. That

just in from Buckingham Palace. In fact, Prince Philip will celebrate

his 96th birthday in June. He was out and about yesterday, those other

pictures of him at Lord's looking remarkably well for a 95-year-old

doing one of his public engagements yesterday. Being handed a cricket

bat. He does like his cricket. We are told it was his decision, it is

his decision, to no longer carry out public engagements. That will begin

from the autumn of this year. So finally, aged 95, the Duke of

Edinburgh is going to retire effectively. The Queen, as you know,

returned 91 last month, has been slowly handing over some of her

duties, although she still carries out around 300 engagements a year,

which is astonishing for a 91-year-old. But the breaking news

from Buckingham Palace in the last minute is Prince Philip will no

longer carry out public engagements from the autumn of this year. He is

in good health. He had a cold at Christmas, but who didn't? The Queen

certainly did, but broadly speaking he is in very good health. The

pictures you can see from yesterday when he went to Lord's. He met

various officials from Lord's and various former cricketing legends, I

can see, as they joke about that bat which looks rather ancient. Duke of

Edinburgh who is 95, from the autumn of this year, will no longer carry

out any public engagements. That is just in from Buckingham Palace. One

would imagine he will still be seen alongside the Queen, perhaps at some

of her engagements, but we will no doubt get more details from our

royal correspondent in the next few minutes. Prince Philip to stand down

then from royal duties for good. He is retiring aged 95.

That's the news from Buckingham Palace in the last couple of

minutes. As you know, they had a meeting of the Royal Household at

Buckingham Palace this morning. We knew that staff, members of the

Royal Household, were called, we think, anyway, from Windsor Castle,

possibly Sandringham, not sure if people came down from Balmoral for

this announcement, but they clearly wanted to tell the members of staff

first before they told the media, which is absolutely fair enough, and

here is the full statement from Buckingham Palace. His Royal

Highness the Duke of Edinburgh has decided that he will no longer carry

out public engagements from this autumn. In taking this decision the

Duke has the full support of the Queen. Prince Philip will attend

previously scheduled engagements between now and August, both

individual and accompanying the Queen. Thereafter the Duke will not

be accepting new invitations for visits and engagements, although he

may still choose to attend certain public events from time to time. The

Duke of Edinburgh is patron, President or a member of over 780

organisations of which he will continue to be associated, although

he will no longer play an active role by attending engagements.

The statement concludes from Buckingham Palace that Her Majesty

will continue to carry out a full programme of official engagements

with the support of members of the Royal family. So, Prince Philip is

retiring at the age of 95. He will stand down from royal duties for

good from the autumn, as the statement says, though, between now

and then he will be attending all the things in his diary. All of

those previously scheduled engagements between now and August

he will go to, both individually and accompanying the Queen. Thereafter,

the statement says, he will not be accepting any invitations to attend

engagements although he may choose to attend certain public events from

time to time. Patron of 780 organisations. The statement says he

will continue to be associated with those but will not play an active

role by attending engagements for those organisations he is a patron,

member or President. Nicholas Witchell is here, the Royal editor

for the BBC. It is a surprise they would feel it

necessary to bring staff in and briefed staff before putting out the

statement but that is what they've done. They have brought staff in

from royal households in wanting to tell them for making this public.

The Duke, 96, in a couple of months' time, June the tenth, he will be 96,

he still has a number of engagements in the diary over the coming months,

but clearly as the statement says he has decided to call it a day in

terms of public engagements come the autumn. We shouldn't forget that of

course they will be celebrating their 70th wedding anniversary in

November. It does say that he will occasionally choose to attend

certain public events from time to time. So we can expect him to see

him on that occasion. And on a number of engagements between now

and then, the Trooping of the Colour a week after his 96th birthday. But

that familiar role to which we have become so accustomed over these

decades of him just in support of the Queen, clearly he feels that he

now wishes to curtail that. And we are told, and I am sure it is

correct, that he has the full support of the Queen in taking that

decision. It means that she will continue. Slowly she has been

handing over duties herself, she is 91 of course, but she is going to

continue. Absolutely, of that there is no question and no doubt. She

will continue, albeit with a somewhat light and workload. Her

officials are quite discreet in the way that they are lightening the

load. They are trying to limit the number of audiences, say, with

judges, with ambassadors, with senior military people. Just finding

little ways to make it easier for somebody of her age to fulfil her

constitutional role as head of state with less time having to stand up,

rather fewer meetings, but still paying full regard to those

important public occasions when she would be expected to be seen as head

of state, and if you look at the Royal diary there are a number of

engagements in the coming weeks that they will be attending together.

They are due in Pangbourne in Berkshire for example next week both

together. It's his decision, the statement says, as you point out.

She's fully supporting it. Apart from his age, which it sounds

bizarre to say, what is behind this? He just wants to spend more time

with his family, or his dogs, or what? I am sure there is a bit of

that, yes, people would say he is entitled to do that. He didn't quite

go this far on the occasion of his 90th birthday. But you may remember

that interview with Fiona Bruce for a BBC documentary in which he said

he would be scaling back his public work. But thereafter there was very

little evidence of him actually doing so. He gave up a number of

patronage is and that kind of thing. But he has continued with a number

of engagements, meetings with people, there he is yesterday at

Lord's opening the new Warner stand wearing his MCC tie and plainly

still enjoying the sort of thing. He still attends, for example,

receptions for recipients of the gold Duke of Edinburgh Award. I've

seen him quite recently doing that. The remarkable thing is he still

takes time. He doesn't skimp on those events because he realises

that these are young people for whom this is a big occasion receiving

their gold Duke of Edinburgh Award and he gives, as it were, full value

on those occasions. I think he does still enjoy it and gains energy, as

it were, from some of those engagements and still cracks the

same jokes, the familiar joke yesterday about I am the world's

most experienced plaque unveiling, he's cracked that thousands of

times. Still funny! It still gets a laugh. He will be around in terms of

public engagements until the autumn, and I would think we will still see

him after that. You mentioned the Duke of Edinburgh Award scheme, he

founded that in 1956, designed to give young people a sense of

responsibility to themselves, to their communities, and it is quite

an astonishing schema. Millions and millions of people have taken part

in it from around the world. They have had it has spread beyond

these shores and has taken root and is a significant scheme in a number

of other countries, principally Commonwealth countries, but

elsewhere. He still takes a considerable interest in that. The

other things, of course, for which he has made a significant

contribution over the years, the World Wildlife Fund as it used to

be, environmental matters, he was a pioneering voice before the voice of

his elder son was raised on environmental matters. On that and

on a range of issues, on industrial matters, if we go back to the 1950s

and 1960s, you've got to remember the Duke of Edinburgh has quite a

significant intellectual curiosity about life in general, and about

spiritual matters. He has written a number of little monograph books

just exploring spiritual matters. So it's that curiosity which I think

has occasionally led him to be, shall we say, somewhat impatient

with things and people that he has encountered, and sometimes those

jokes we were just referring to haven't always worked. He is

remembered for that. But I think he is remembered and will continue to

be remembered, of course, for the way in which he has supported the

Queen. is a for this meeting, as you say, because they wanted to tell the

staff before telling the media, which I suppose is Veron. It did

seem quite traffic to do that. Yes, and in the middle of the night, this

leaked out, as it were, and certainly all kinds of completely

erroneous impressions were formed. It underlines what an utterly

unreliable source of information is social media, because of the

nonsense that was on social media for a number of hours, and then

there was some clarification and guidance that this had nothing to do

with any health issue. And here we are now finally a statement from

Buckingham Palace that he has the sided, the joke of Edinburgh, that

he will no longer carry out public engagements from the autumn of this

year. There we see him in that familiar role, a role in which we

will see rather less of him from the autumn, with the Queen, is that at

St George's travel or Westminster Abbey, I'm not quite sure. But the

role to which we have become so very accustomed to seeing him over these

years. As I say, it will continue for those major locations from time

to time. This is the full statement from the Buckingham Palace. The Duke

of Ember has decided he will no longer carry out public engagements

from the autumn of this year. In taking this decision, the joke has

the full support of the Queen. Prince Philip will attend -- the

Duke will attend. He will no longer be accepting new invitations for

visits and engagements where he may still attend public events from time

to time. The Duke of Edinburgh is patron of over 780 organisations, he

will no longer play an active role in attending engagements. Her

Majesty will carry out a full programme of official engagements

with the support of members of the Royal family. So Prince Philip is

retiring, finally, at the age of 95. But as you say, Nick, they have this

humongous wedding anniversary coming up. Yes, in November, 70 years,

which is extraordinary assault. I am not quite sure what you call a 70th

wedding anniversary, but significant I guess is the word you will use. Of

course he will be attending that. The other I suppose significant

thing is it will mean that the Prince of Wales will now take on a

more significant role as the senior male member of the family, which in

a sense he has always been, as the heir to the throne, but with his

father now as it were retiring from most public engagements, I would

imagine we will see more of the Queen and Prince Charles perhaps

comforting her on significant events that previously we would have

expected to see the joke of Edinburgh by her side. We will just

have to see how that works out. Nearly 800 associations he is

patron, president or a member. The public engagements associated with

that, they will have to be shared out now, amongst the Prince of Wales

and the grandchildren? Yes, that is what he has continued and is

continuing to do. There are any number of lunches and dinners that

he attends. Not many of them terribly physically demanding, you

would not expect them to be for a 95-year-old, almost 96-year-old, but

nonetheless you have two concentrate and remember who people are and make

polite conversation with any number of different people, whether it is a

lunch or a dinner, or going to Lord's yesterday, as we saw that,

cricket has been quite an interest and a passion. He was not a bad

cricketer himself years ago. Because he retains that interest, even

though he has been in his 90s, he continued with public engagement,

notwithstanding the age of 90 he said I will be pulling back

significantly, which he hasn't actually done. He did a bit, but now

is the moment when finally he is pulling back. It is hard to retire,

I think. He will obviously have had, sessions with the Queen about this,

perhaps they will have talked about whether she should retire too, but

she is not going to because this is a job for life. She can't retire,

and she knows that. The load can be lightened, but there are certain

functions that only she can perform, so long as she is physically and

mentally capable of doing that, and she certainly is those things, and

so she will continue in the role. And she knows, as you say, that it

is a role for life and it is upon that basis that she has continued

and be in Monaco for, what is it now, 65 years. -- she has been

monarch for 65 years. The grandchildren, William and Harry,

with Kate, will they step up and do more? Yes, we already seeing

significant evidence of that and I think that accepted. We know that

William and Kate, Catherine, are relocating to London. He is giving

up his role as a ambulance pilot. And whether this has been a matter

of discussion within the family specifically or whether just in

general terms, we don't know and we won't know, but clearly within the

family it has been self evident to the younger members, that with

grandparents who are in their 90s, there are inevitably was going to be

a greater load falling on them and a great expectation on them to do

more. Now, William has on occasions of the past been criticised for not

doing enough. I spoke to him, did an interview with him last year and put

to him this whole work-shy William stuff, and he said it can wear you

down, if you take on too much of the Royal duty and responsibility at too

young an age. But I think that he accepts the moment has come, most

especially now with his grandfather taking this step back, when he will

have two, yes of course, and he will have to do that quite willingly and

happily step up and accept more of the Royal burden. Stay with us. For

those who are just joining us, let me bring you the breaking news that

Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh, is going to retire from

royal duties the good from this autumn. Nick was mentioning that the

head of Prince Philip was a 90th birthday, he spoke to our colleague

Fiona Bruce. He mentioned then he might be starting to scale back his

duties. I wreck and I have done my bit, I want to enjoy myself a bit

now. -- I reckon I have done my bit to that with less responsibility,

less frantic rushing about, less preparation, less trying to think of

something to say. On top of that, the memory is going, I can't

remember names and things. Yes, I am just sort of winding down. That was

a few years ago. He is finally winding down. The Queen's former

press secretary is on the phone now. Good morning. How do you react to

this news? I think it is a natural process really. He did say six years

ago, and we have to remember it was six years ago when he turned 90,

that he would be scaling back. I think he has made the right

decision. He said himself that the memory is a bit dodgy, and with most

elderly peeled for the short term memory does go. -- most elderly

people. He probably feels he can't give it his all with that slight

handicap, short-term memory. He has made a wise decision. He will

probably still continued carriage driving, carrying on with the Godin

gauge and as an when it arises. But in terms of on the road every day

all day, that will be a thing of the past. It is a very wise decision.

Let's make it very clear, he is still robust, still very healthy as

we saw the other day at Lord's cricket ground, and still able to

crack a joke. So what will he do then with this time? I think he

might sit at his computer. He was the first person in Buckingham

Palace to use a computer, long before other people would. He is a

bit of a technophile, and he will probably sit down and start writing

his memoirs, putting down on paper something that could go into the

archives for historians. He has a great story to tell and a lot to

tell, so that will keep him occupied. His patronage is will

still contact him, you will still be there to advise if they want the

advice, and he will still be supporting his patronage is. And I

think on very rare occasions we might see him in support of the

Queen when she is out and about. We were told it was his the session, he

has the full support of the Queen. You would expect that? I would have

expected that decision. Look, the man is 96, most 96-year-olds have

got their feet up. It has taken a long time for him to put his feet up

and I very much doubt he will put his feet up. He will still be

involved in something, even if it is just from his office, in phone

calls, in talking to his patronage is, maybe even visiting the moniker

on a private visit. Not giving up life. -- visiting the monarch. The

Queen at 91 is going to be carrying on as normal with the support of the

rest of the family for stock yes, although she has slowly been handing

over duties and yet she still carries out something like 300 a

year. That is a lot. It is a sizeable number. She will still do

audiences. You have got the rumour machine does work that we don't see,

that we don't hear about. We know about it, we know she goes through

her red boxes about three times a day. She read every word put in

front of her, she makes notes, she gets audiences with the Prime

Minister, she meets ministers. In terms of taking some of the

pressure from those engagements which Prince Philip is stepping back

from, we know the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are moving to London

from Norfolk. That will help shoulder the burden a little more.

It will help considerably. The Duke of Cambridge has made a very wise

decision to give up helicopter flying. We wouldn't have thanked him

had he sort of turned his back on all his training and gone straight

into Royal duties after all the taxpayer did pay them to train in

the air force, and he did put it to very good use as an air ambulance

helicopter pilot but I think it is time to move on. He is in his 30s,

his grandfather is stepping back, and he needs to step up to the plate

and that is exactly what he will do. We will see a lot more of him, not

necessarily on things like conservation, but more things with

substance, some of the things that the joke of Edinburgh was doing.

Yes. This meeting which happened at ten o'clock we are told -- the joke

of Edinburgh. -- the Duke of Edinburgh. It is

briefing the staff and the household and what is happening. There will be

a lot of coming and going. With Prince Philip not stepping back from

Royal duties, the people involved in his work will be assigned to other

duties. It is keeping everyone informed. Buckingham Palace is a

very good communicator. It communicates with the media, via

social media, Twitter, YouTube, you name it, and it communicates with

its star. It doesn't keep its staff in the dark. It keeps them informed

right the way through on what is happening. They have done it the

right way. So that no rumours can go out. He is not ill, he robust health

as we saw at Lord's cricket ground a couple of days ago. Thank you very

much, Dickie Kenta we can go live to Buckingham Palace

now. Sarah Campbell is there. There are as usual hundreds of tourists

behind you, I am not with the news has filtered through to them but

what can you tell us from there? The media speculation started as you

would expect very early on this morning, when it was known that this

meeting was happening. I think if we can pan around, you will get a sense

of how many broadcasters are here. They are from Australia, they are

from New Zealand, from Europe, from America, other broadcasters from the

UK. I think it just gives us a sense of how this news will be of

interest. It will be under stood around the world because the Duke of

Edinburgh is one of the most recognised faces, not just in the

United Kingdom, to the Commonwealth but across the globe. The crowds

certainly seem to be building up outside Buckingham Palace. Whether

that is because the news is filtering through, it probably is.

It is all over social media app the moment and people tend to gravitate

towards Buckingham Palace when there is a big Royal story. There may be a

chance that they get a glimpse of the royal couple, because it is

business as usual as far as they are concerned, they are chewed to be at

St James's Palace at about 11:30am for a service for members of the

orders of merit. As we know as of August it will be a

change of view for the Royal family, we are used to seeing the Duke of

Edinburgh accompanying the Queen on public engagements but from August

it will just be the Queen. I wonder if you'd expect, Sarah, it will be

the Prince of Wales, Prince Charles, who we will see alongside the Queen

at some of her public engagements. That is a good question. There has

certainly been a period of transition, I suppose, going on over

the last couple of years with the Prince of Wales taking over more

duties. But Prince William as well is moving back from Norfolk to

London so he will be another key member of the Royal family, Prince

Harry as well, very much part of the coming to the fore in terms of

taking on royal duties. I think you would expect other members of the

Royal family but of course the Prince of Wales to take over some of

the engagements of the Duke of Edinburgh. But certainly nothing at

the moment officially along those lines. Those are some of the things

I think will become evident over the next few months. Thank you for the

moment, Sarah Campbell, our royal correspondent outside Buckingham

Palace. Nicholas Witchell is still here, and for those just tuning in

its probably worth giving them the full announcements. The statement

from Buckingham Palace says His Royal Highness the Duke of Edinburgh

has decided that he will no longer carry out public engagements from

the autumn of this year. In taking this decision and the Duke has the

full support of the Queen. He will attend previously scheduled

engagements between now and August individually and accompanying the

Queen, quite a number of those engagements but thereafter he goes

on the Duke will not accept new invitations for visits and

engagements, although he may choose to attend certain public events from

time to time. "The Duke of Edinburgh is patron,

president or a member of over 780 organisations,

with which he will continue to be associated, although he will no

longer play an active role "Her Majesty will continue to carry

out a full programme of official engagements with the support

of members of the Royal Family." Several points of interest, no

surprise he is finally stepping back, doing what he said he was

going to do six years ago when he said on the occasion of his 90th

birthday he reckoned he had done his bit then. He has since then

continued to pursue quite an active round of engagements, Trooping the

Colour, although not in that location in the carriage with the

Queen. It will be interesting, it will be the Prince of Wales, who I

would imagine, will take his place at significant Royal events like

Trooping the Colour, the State Opening of Parliament, that is

happening on June the 19th so he will still be there with the Queen

for that. It is a non-ceremonial State Opening of Parliament in the

new parliament after the selection. Just picking up the election point,

one thing that rather surprises me is that Buckingham Palace has made

this announcement during a general election campaign. Now, albeit this

is a day, because of the local elections, there is no political

news, but normally the Royals disappear as much as possible and

make as little news as possible during an election campaign. This is

an announcement which has no constitutional significance, because

the Duke of Edinburgh, in the nicest way possible, has no constitutional

significance as the consort of the Queen but it is still quite

surprising. Maybe this is something they have been planning now for a

matter of weeks. Maybe they were quite taken aback when the Prime

Minister announced she wanted to have a general election and they

wanted just to get it out as quickly as possible. Sorry to interrupt, I

wonder if the Queen would have mentioned it to the Prime Minister

Theresa May yesterday. I am sure. We were speculating what is keeping the

Prime Minister so long, she was with the Queen for half an hour at

Buckingham Palace when they discussed the dissolution of

Parliament and the coming general election. I would imagine this would

be one of the things that they will have talked about. I am quite sure

the Prime Minister would have been informed in advance. It would have

been an opportunity for her to discuss, and I am sure, say nice

things about the way the Duke of Edinburgh has supported her over

these years. We to believe they will perhaps be a statement from Downing

Street about his retirement from public life at some point today.

Thank you, Nick, you may go. Nicholas Witchell, our royal editor,

let's talk to Sarah Campbell, our royal correspondent at Buckingham

Palace. When he said he would roll back his public engagements when he

was 90 it didn't happen, why? He said I've done my bit and it's time

to take a rest. And you're right, he didn't. There has been a slight

slowing down, it wouldn't be true to say he's doing the same as he was

ten years ago. There are key things like long haul travel, the Queen and

Duke of Edinburgh no longer undertake long haul engagements. It

was decided that was too much. Last year around his 90th birthday he

announced he was going to get rid of a few of the patronage is, but only

a few, and bearing in mind he is still involved with something like

780 organisations. That is still quite a small number. The question

is why didn't he take a step back? You would think somebody after the

age of 90 would want to take a step back but it is kind of a question

you would have to ask him. Throughout his life he has been a

pretty dynamic character. As we know he started off in the Royal navy,

during the Second World War. People say if he had stuck with it, he is

an active sportsman, involved in environmental groups like the World

Wildlife Fund and talking about global environmental issues long

before it became quite fashionable, if you like, to do so. He was a big

carriage writer, great cricketer, he's had a very full and active

life, and I suspect the thought of just sitting back and kicking up his

heels was a little bit of an anathema to him which might explain

why a long after most people have given up their working life he has

carried on. This e-mail from Heather says what a lovely announcement this

morning, about time he put his royal shoes up and relaxed a little, well

served, enjoy your retirement can be automated thank you for your loyalty

and support to your wife, our Queen, and our country. I suppose there

might be an outpouring of affection for him as he steps back. Do you

know what, I think you might be right. In terms of the longevity of

his public service, and that's effectively what has been, 1952 when

the Queen Aksu did the throne, that was the party had to put aside his

personal ambitions. He said his role was to support the Queen and that's

what he's done for more than 60 years. I'm not sure many people in

this country that for more than 60 years they have put public service

before pretty much anything else. I think you are right, there will be

lots of people in the charities to which he is linked, many youngsters

who have taken part in the Duke of Edinburgh Awards scheme with a sense

of thanks to him for starting a scheme which for many people has

been incredibly important to them. Just as a public figure, a

recognition of what he has done promoting Brand Britain around the

world, but also supporting the Queen in what is a task, being the Queen,

but what has really helped, and she said this on several occasions,

having the Duke constantly by her side supporting her. You are right,

I think we will hear from lots of the members of the public to say

thank you for the service you have given. And probably an understanding

that he has got to the age of 95 and acceptance that maybe it's about

time that he can do what he wants if he wants to just watch television

all day, why not? Especially as we start at 9am each weekday morning!

Prince Philip. So, impact on other members of the Royal family, the

fact that from autumn he will no longer carry out public duties. He

Siddle patron, President or a member of over 780 organisations. -- he is

still. He will continue to be associated with them but will no

longer play an active role by attending any other engagements. It

is feasible to see those engagements will be spread amongst other members

of the family. And to a certain extent that started to happen last

year. A number of the organisations he was involved with, they were sort

of handed out, divided amongst the other members of the Royal family. I

presume that that process will continue over the coming months. It

says on the statement that Her Majesty will continue to carry out a

full programme of official engagements with the support of

members of the Royal family. There will undoubtedly be gaps to be

plugged. You will see the Duke of Edinburgh on the news, in the papers

come out and about giving engagements but there are many more

engagements that don't ever make it onto the news. Those kind of gaps

will have to be plugged by other members of the Royal family. I am

sure there is a team within Buckingham Palace and the press team

sorting out how that will happen. For the moment, Sarah, thank you.

Back with you in the next ten minutes or so. If you are just

tuning in, good morning. The breaking news is the Duke of

Edinburgh, Prince Philip, is retiring from the autumn. Aged 95,

he is going to step back from this autumn from royal duties. The

official statement says: "The Duke of Edinburgh has decided

that he will no longer carry out public engagements from the autumn

of this year. "In taking this decision,

the Duke has the full "Prince Philip will attend

previously scheduled engagements between now and August,

both individually and "Thereafter, the Duke will not be

accepting new invitations for visits and engagements,

although he may still choose to attend certain public

events from time to time. "The Duke of Edinburgh is patron,

president or a member of over 780 organisations,

with which he will continue to be associated, although he will no

longer play an active role "Her Majesty will continue to carry

out a full programme of official engagements with the support

of members of the Royal Family." So, the Duke of Edinburgh is going

to retire later this year. Let's talk to someone who has worked with

him on environmental projects and has met him on several occasions.

Good morning, tell us what he is like to work with. Good morning, I

don't know if I could say I've worked with him that closely but I

find him to be a wonderful gentleman of the old school, someone who is

very self-effacing, dignified, never spoke of himself or put himself

forward, always put others forward. I always noted that comedians were

very happy to laugh at his jokes, laugh at the way he made jokes, etc.

He is actually a very funny person. It's very dry wit. I found it maybe

even a little bit mean sometimes how comedians have dealt with him.

Because in the background, again in a dignified way, he's done

tremendous work for the environment, being the President of the WWF for

many years and then starting the Alliance on religion and

conservation, to make sure religious organisations who have a lot to say

about the environment, are able to have their voice in this sphere.

Also bringing together a symposia and conferences about science and

religion, another area that really needs to be developed in society. He

has taken the lead in some very far-reaching areas, maybe even a

little before his time. An area that has been ignored, considering who he

is and the potency, the influence, that the Royals can have, as we've

seen recently with the Princes on the mental health issue. He's been

doing this quietly in the background for many years and I have to Mendis

admiration for the work he has done. Tell us a bit more about the

projects he has worked with you on. We have a project called mother

Earth in the Sanskrit and it is about Hindu responses to the in

Brian Moote and we launched it at Windsor Castle in 2009 in the

presence of Ban Ki-Moon and the Prince. The fact they gave their

name to this and helped push it forward was tremendous, very much on

international development. We hear jokes about the Prince joking about

foreigners etc but here he is giving his name to a project that is about

Hindu responses to the environment. Sorry to interrupt. Where do you

think that kind of intellectual curiosity comes from? You may not

know the answer but what do you think? Here is a person has been an

international practically since he was born, he knows the issues, the

meta- issues of politics and global discourse. He is able to stand back

and see the bigger picture. For him to understand, with the WWF as