12/05/2017 Victoria Derbyshire


12/05/2017

Daily news programme. Former Olympic gold medal winner and reality TV star Caitlyn Jenner talks to Joanna Gosling about life after her transition to living as a woman.


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Hello, it's Friday, it's 9am, I'm Joanna Gosling,

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Caitlyn Jenner is the most famous transgender person in the world.

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She is also an Olympic gold medal winner, reality TV star from

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Keeping Up With The Kardashians, and she is with us this morning

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to talk about her life and what she says is her time now,

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Get in touch with us if there is anything

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That's what Donald Trump thinks of James Comey,

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who was head of the FBI until the president sacked him.

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In his first interview since the sacking Mr Trump insisted

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he was not under investigation and that the probe into alleged

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Russian meddling in the US election was a "charade".

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You know that, I know that, everybody knows that.

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You take a look at the FBI a year ago.

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It was in virtual turmoil, less than a year ago.

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We'll show you more of that interview later in the programme.

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Swords, axes and air guns, just some of the weapons seized

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from children in schools across the country.

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Police chiefs are warning that there has been a worrying rise

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in the number of young people carrying knives.

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Caitlyn Jenner is with us this morning.

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Is there anything you'd like to ask her about her life,

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We are also talking about the rise in the number of children carrying

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knives, as police seize thousands of them from schools.

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If you have school age kids, are you worried for them?

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If you're getting in touch, use #VictoriaLIVE and text,

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you will be charged at the standard network rate.

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Donald Trump has been defending his decision to sack

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In his first extensive television interview

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since he sacked James Comey, he told the American network NBC

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News that the former FBI boss was a showboat and a grandstander

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and reiterated that he wasn't under investigation himself.

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Our Washington Correspondent Laura Bicker reports.

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When did Donald Trump decide to sack the towering figure from the FBI?

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This presidential handshake not an act of friendship, it seems,

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but the beginning of the end for James Comey.

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He's a showboater, he's a grandstander.

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It wasn't on advice from the Deputy Attorney-General,

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as the White House stated, it came directly from the President.

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The White House claims that James Comey had little or no

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The rank and file of the FBI had lost confidence in their director.

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Not so, said the Acting FBI Director, who was sitting

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in for his sacked boss before the Senate intelligence committee.

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Director Comey enjoyed broad support within the FBI, and still does.

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At the heart of this row is the alleged collusion between

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The President admits that Russia was on his mind

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And in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself,

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you know, this Russia thing, with Trump and Russia,

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it's a made-up story, it's an excuse by the Democrats

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Donald Trump denies any collusion with Russia and insists that,

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despite sacking the head of the FBI, he wants any enquiry done

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Now to the BBC Newsroom with a summary of the rest

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The Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, will this morning give

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Mr Corbyn will insist he isn't a pacifist and he's prepared to use

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He will also pledge a "robust", independent foreign policy and says

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there will be "no hand holding" with US President Donald Trump

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Brazil has declared an end to a national emergency over

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the Zika virus after the number of cases dropped 95%

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between January and April, compared to the same period

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The virus has been linked to microcephaly where babies are born

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The threat was at its peak as Brazil prepared to host the 2016 Olympics,

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and the Zika virus has been linked to severe birth defects

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Detectives investigating the death of a businessman,

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who was shot dead during a suspected burglary at his home in Dorset,

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Police say a 45-year-old man from Poole is being questioned

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on suspicion of conspiracy to commit aggravated burglary.

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Three men have been charged with murdering Guy Hedger

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during the May Day Bank Holiday weekend.

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A Mexican businesswoman who was known for successfully

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investigating the kidnap and murder of her daughter by a local

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drug cartel has been killed by armed intruders.

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Miriam Rodriguez Martinez headed a local association of 600

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families who were searching for their disappeared relatives,

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and the information she gave the police ensured some gang

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The UN mission in Mexico condemned the attack.

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Thousands of weapons have been seized in schools

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They include swords, axes and air-guns.

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Some of the cases involved children as young as five.

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Police chiefs said there had been a "worrying" increase in young

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Some schools have taken to using metal arches to make sure

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no weapons are brought on to their premises.

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But figures obtained by the Press Association show

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that the number of seizures in the last year is up about 20%

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32 out of 43 police forces in England and Wales responded

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to Freedom of Information requests about weapons found in schools.

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The figures showed that 2,579 weapons were found in the two

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Among them were samurai swords, axes and air guns.

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At least 47 children were below the age of ten,

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and one five-year-old was caught with a knife.

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Just one stab wound, that went straight in his heart.

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The National Police Chiefs Council said the increase in young people

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It said it wanted to educate people that carrying a weapon illegally

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We'll have more on that story at 10:15am.

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We will speak to several people who work to deal with the issue with

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children in schools. Proposals to ban parents

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in Scotland from smacking their children have been put out

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for public consultation. The move is ahead of a proposed

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member's bill put forward by Highlands and Islands Green MSP

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John Finnie in the Scottish Parliament which aims

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to give children equal The consultation will

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run until 4th August. In England, Wales and Northern

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Ireland there is no ban on smacking and parents are allowed

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to use "reasonable chastisement". However, hitting a child so hard

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that it leaves a mark, or causes bruising, swelling, cuts,

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grazes or scratches could result Under Scottish law,

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parents can claim a defence of "justifiable assault"

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when punishing their child. The United States says it

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will consider its own interests first, as it reviews

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its climate change policy. The US secretary of state,

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Rex Tillerson, told a meeting of the eight nations with land

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in the Arctic, which has been meeting in Alaska,

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that America would not rush to make a decision, but would take

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their views into account. It comes as President Donald Trump

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said he may pull the US out of the Paris Accord because he has

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doubts over the human A London firm which makes virtual

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reality games has had a massive boost, a ?400 million investment

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from a Japanese bank. It's one of the largest ever

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investments in a British The business, called Improbable,

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was only set up five years ago. I think it is a big vote

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of confidence in the talent pool that we have here

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and in the potential for this country to produce

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world leading technology, and if we are able to enter that

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category that would be a great ambition for us,

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and something I would be very One of the UK's oldest

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swimming baths will reopen for its first public swim in 24

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years this weekend. It's part of a fundraising mission

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to reopen the Edwardian Victoria The pool first opened in 1906

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but the council closed the baths in 1993 because of budget

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pressures. That's a summary of

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the latest BBC News. Caitlyn Jenner is live

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in our studio from quarter past. If you've a question

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you'd like to ask her, or an experience you'd like to share

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with her, do get in touch with us Use #VictoriaLIVE and if you text,

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you will be charged Let's get some sport now with Tim,

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and Manchester United are through to the Europa League

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final in a couple of weeks, Yes. I am looking forward to that

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chat. It was a nail-biter at Old Trafford last night, united

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squeezing through 2-1 on aggregate in the 96th minute. Sell the vehicle

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had a great chance to is that it on away goals but it is Mourinho's men

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who will travel to stock on for the final. This goal proved crucial. A

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brilliant pass from Rushyford to set him up. United looked through but

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this got Vigo level. United through after six minutes of injury time.

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Really upsetting, tears for Vigo, Dominic but celebrations for United.

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I am pleased for the final. Their league finishes on Sunday and they

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will have 12 days to prepare. Hopefully Crystal Palace does not

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need the last game. Because in the last game I am going to make a lot

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of changes. A busy end to the season for Mourinho but one of his former

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side Chelsea can relax tonight if the win at West Brom. If they do the

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Premier League title will head back to Stamford Bridge. Not many were

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predicting that at the start of the season but they are seven points

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clear with three games remaining. Tickets are going for nearly ?2000.

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Chelsea fans they did is happening tonight. It could be the first part

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of a really special season. They are also into the FA Cup final against

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Arsenal later this month. They beat Tottenham in the semifinal at

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Wembley in April. The manager loved it. He will love it tonight if they

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can win. It is the league title that is the first priority and to win

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that alone would be impressive because it is his first season in

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English football and only three other managers have won the title in

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their first season. Fielding practice for a BBC Nottingham

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commentator. This was fantastic. Durham beat Nottinghamshire by four

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wickets in the One-Day Cup but it was a huge six from England opener

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Alex Hales that stole the headlines. He got the Mack sixes in total

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during an innings of 104. In this one he found the only open window in

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the Trent Bridge media centre and the ball was picked up by one of the

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two commentators from the BBC covering the match. That is how it

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looked. Here is how it sounded. Alex Hales hits this towards me. It is

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coming towards me! It has come to me. I have got it! How about that?

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I love it. No swearing at all. Very clean.

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Olympic gold medal winning decathlete, reality TV star,

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and over the last two years she's become the most famous transgender

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Caitlyn Jenner changed her name and transitioned fully to living

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She's written a book about her own experience

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of being transgender and how it took her a lifetime to finally

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How exciting to be in town. How are you? Great. It has been a long road

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to say the least. I have to admit that after all these years I am

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probably in the best place I have ever been in my life. I am happiest,

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most content, people are surprised, my life is so much simpler now. You

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wake up in the morning and you can be yourself. It is nice. How

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important is it for you to tell your story? Really important. Every

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journey is different. If I have learned one thing over the past two

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years, because two years ago I came out, and I had never met another

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person who was trans. I did not know anything about the community. In the

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two years Ireland that every story is different. They put me as a

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spokesperson for the trans community. I am a spokesperson for

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my story. Every time I'd tell my story either to my children or

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friends or to God it is like taking thousands of pounds of weight off of

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my shoulders. It is freeing and I feel good after it because I do not

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have to lie to that person anymore. I worked on the book. It was a

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lifetime in the making. But two years, almost 8000 pages of secrets,

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memoirs, of experiences I've been through that my family didn't even

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know. When you struggle with this, you struggle with it in the shadows.

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I didn't want to be in the shadows any more. I wanted my entire family

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and the public to know my story. Did you keep meticulous notes? In my

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head. I'm good at remembering things. I sat down with Buzz and we

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had a great time writing it. We will on the bestsellers list. I grew up

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as a poor little dyslexic kit. I am sure my high school English teacher,

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if she is still around, but probably not, is rolling over in their graves

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saying, wait a minute, I'm a New York Times bestselling author, that

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is amazing to me. It was the final chapter that I needed to tell to the

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public. To tell my story honestly. What was your first memory of not

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being comfortable as Bruce? At a very young age. I see that picture

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on the monitor over there. I was looking at it. I'm thinking, wait,

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there I was, about 18 months old. Maybe that collar was the problem. I

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keep looking for answers. What was it? Maybe I really liked it. I don't

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know what it is. When you deal with something like this you deal with it

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your entire life. It is just how you deal with it. Every person does it

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differently. Some can identify at a very young age. I did. But when I

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was growing up in the 50s and 60s, there isn't even a name for it. The

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only thing you had was a big tabloid thing about a man from Holland, who

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had surgery done, but I could not identify with that. You point out in

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the book that the first time the term was used was in 1974. When you

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were born it wasn't even a term. Yes. I didn't know what it was. I

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just knew I was different. I found sports. That is a place where I

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could hide, or could be my distraction. I was good at it. I

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didn't have any gender issues, I could go out on the football field.

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That was it. That was at my high school. It was a way for me to cope

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with myself. To prove my masculinity. Never knowing how far I

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would go with it. I went a long way with it. I remember the day after

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the Games. I was in a hotel room in Montreal, I didn't have a strip of

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clothes on, I had the medal on the bathroom counter. I put it on. I

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looked in the mirror. And I thought, what have I just done? Because as I

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looked in the mirror I knew it wasn't me. But I built this

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character up so big, so masculine, that I am stuck with him for the

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rest of my life. And it was kind of scary. Did you feel you were

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trapping yourself? In a lot of ways I was. I note that character so big.

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I loved playing Bruce. Bruce was a good person. He raised a tremendous

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family, did a lot of good things. I'm very proud of what I was able to

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accomplish that way. But I got to the age of 65, after struggling with

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these issues for so many years. And I was right back where I was

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starting from. In Malibu, where I was living, me and Kris had gone our

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separate ways, I raised my wonderful children. I'm still dealing with the

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same issues I had when I was five. I thought what on earth am I going to

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do with my life? After long conversations with Lord, with my

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pastor, with all of my children, I thought, you know what? In God's

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dies, how does he see how I am doing? And I thought, finally, maybe

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this is the reason he put me on this earth. -- in God's eyes. I couldn't

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do it in the 80s when I was really struggling. I couldn't do it. I said

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maybe I can come forward, number one, live my life honestly, but also

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in doing that, in having a platform, maybe I can bring some understanding

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to the world on this issue. And it was very fulfilling. That is what I

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have been doing for the last couple of years. Take us back to the little

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boy Bruce, and the first time you... Cross dressed? Yes. That is going

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way back. I didn't know what I was fascinated by my sister or my mum's

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closets. I remember going in, fascinated by all of this stuff. But

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what age? Just getting some clothes. My hair was short, because we are

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talking the late 1950s. I put a scarf over my head, threw on some

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lipstick, got into one of my mum's outfits, whatever it was. I went out

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of the house, we lived in an apartment complex, I walked around

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it, and little did I know that would be something I would do until I was

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65 years old. I didn't know why I felt so comfortable in doing that.

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It felt like me. But it was also the great taboo. I couldn't tell

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anybody. That set up the pattern. And when you go through something

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like this, always wonder why is it the excitement of it, is that what

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it is all about? Am I really trans? Am I a cross dresser? Is this a

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sexual thing? And I came to the point of realising that this is me,

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this is who I really am. What was the first conversation you really

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had with anybody about it? Probably my first ex-wife. After we had been

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married for a while I said I had some issues. These are the things

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going through my head. And that was the first time you spoke to anybody?

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Yes. I couldn't speak to my sister, my family. I think I just saw a

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picture of you with your family, you were very close. Yes, I am very

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close with my sister. Even as I went on with Linda, my second marriage,

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we were only married for four years, I had two wonderful children. I was

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really struggling at that time during the 1980s. Really, really

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struggling. We went our separate directions. Then for the next six

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years, I just dropped out of life. I lived in my house, by myself, I

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didn't go out, I didn't do anything, I went out to work once in a while.

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I became a hermit. Secluded. I didn't feel like I fit in anywhere,

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I did not fit in with the guys, I did not fit in with the girls. That

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first conversation, when you had to put into words how you were feeling,

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and the fact you had been in private, just talk us through what

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you were doing and the fear of somebody actually finding out,

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potentially, because obviously you were actually going out... That was

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good, I was good, I never got caught, I am proud of that. After

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many years of struggling, when Kris and I met, I had been on hormones

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the years, I had a couple of little things done, because I thought I was

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going to do this before I was 40. You had taken the decision, hadn't

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you? Yes, I'm all in, I got started, I was in therapy for five years,

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preparing for this. I got to 39 and I couldn't go any further. 1989. I

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just couldn't go any further. How far had you gone? You had the

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electrolysis. Yes, things like that. You were growing breasts? Yeah, all

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that kind of stuff. Why did you feel at that point you couldn't go any

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further? It wasn't time. That's the simple answer. It just wasn't time.

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Why not? Because of society, because of everything. The only person who

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had been out there as trans was Renee Richards. At that time I was

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trying to play on the women's circuit. It wasn't in society. It

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wasn't accepted. Many years later, after Kris and I had been together

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for 23 years. We've raised a beautiful family. Wonderful, smart,

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intelligent, hard-working kids. Really did a great job. Then there I

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was back in Malibu. The Times had changed at that point. We had other

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trans people before me. Transparent came out. Laverne Cox from other

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trans activists out there, who were great, intelligent, articulate

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women. I thought myself, maybe it is time for me to add my voice to that

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conversation. Maybe I can make a difference too. So I finally had the

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courage to get through it. It has been wonderful. As you have

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described, it has been stopped start throughout your life. Throughout my

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life. I never thought I would be here living my authentic self.

:26:31.:26:36.

Really? I never thought I would have the guts. I was getting destroyed in

:26:37.:26:41.

the tabloids for years and years. As life went on the stakes got higher.

:26:42.:26:45.

Of course. Because your fame just grew. The reality thing, as well.

:26:46.:26:51.

Absolutely. I did not do it for me. I did it for my children. To give

:26:52.:26:56.

them a platform. In opportunity. They have grabbed onto it done

:26:57.:27:01.

extremely well. Yeah... Again, I built this character, I built it up

:27:02.:27:05.

and built it up, then there I was kind of stuck with it. Effectively

:27:06.:27:10.

you sort of found yourself in that by accident. I know when you met

:27:11.:27:20.

Kris she was introduced to you as a mum from Beverly Hills. Exactly. I

:27:21.:27:27.

was honest with her. Did I downplay it? My conditions? Absolutely, I'm

:27:28.:27:31.

sure I did at the time. Because I had been through six years of hell

:27:32.:27:35.

and I was coming back. And he decided he wouldn't do it. And at

:27:36.:27:38.

that point you invested in the marriage. I invested in the

:27:39.:27:42.

marriage. More children. For the next 20 years I had kids around all

:27:43.:27:50.

over town, I was a good parent, I loved it. It never leaves you, who

:27:51.:27:59.

you are. At 1.I said those were distractions that I had. Boy, did I

:28:00.:28:05.

get in trouble with the kids. They could not believe they were just a

:28:06.:28:16.

distraction. -- at one point I said those were distractions. I had to

:28:17.:28:22.

reword it, because they were not really distractions. But I'm sure

:28:23.:28:27.

they knew. How did they know? There was a picture of me, my face on a

:28:28.:28:34.

woman's body, that is what they saw in the tabloids. When do you think

:28:35.:28:40.

they first had an inkling? Well, one time... You know how technology will

:28:41.:28:48.

get you, Kylie, I think it was Kylie or Kendal, one of them had been

:28:49.:28:55.

stealing clothes from the other. Being the sneaky sister they turned

:28:56.:29:00.

on their computer, put that security alert on, so if there was any

:29:01.:29:03.

movement in the room the security would go. And you even know it was

:29:04.:29:09.

going off. Then they would come home. Everybody was gone for six

:29:10.:29:15.

hours, so I had my time to be myself. Kylie had a full length

:29:16.:29:20.

mirror. I took a look at what I had on and I walked back out. Two hours

:29:21.:29:24.

later I hear this screaming from the other room. And I thought, oh no, I

:29:25.:29:32.

got caught, technology got me on this one. Everybody brushed it off.

:29:33.:29:38.

Did they realise, did they speak to you about it? No. Everybody stayed

:29:39.:29:44.

quiet. We didn't speak about it, about two, three years before I came

:29:45.:29:51.

out. Besides my sister who knew, a couple of people knew, a long time

:29:52.:30:00.

before, was Kimberly. Kimberly, who is wonderful, she is always very

:30:01.:30:04.

nosy, she wants to know everything that is going on. She came up to me

:30:05.:30:09.

one day. She had moved out. Had her own house. She said, what the hell

:30:10.:30:15.

is going on with you? At that point I thought, it is time to start

:30:16.:30:18.

talking. Be open. Because everybody knew something was up. I said, I'll

:30:19.:30:24.

come over to your house, we will sit down and talk and I talked about the

:30:25.:30:27.

operations and all of the things I dealt with. She was great talking

:30:28.:30:32.

about it. But for the next two years, we never brought the subject

:30:33.:30:38.

up again. Every time you confess in somebody, pour your soul into it, I

:30:39.:30:41.

thought, finally I can talk to somebody in the family. But we never

:30:42.:30:47.

did again. It always bothered me. I thought, does she think I'm crazy?

:30:48.:30:51.

This and that. Until a couple of years later, we were discussing it.

:30:52.:30:57.

I said, you know that hurt me that you never, I brought it up that

:30:58.:31:01.

time, and you never talked about it again, you never called to ask how I

:31:02.:31:05.

was doing. She said, you know what, I just didn't know if I should. I

:31:06.:31:09.

thought, it's been a secret for so long, maybe I should continue to

:31:10.:31:14.

keep it a secret. I thought, OK, I get that, I understand that, I can

:31:15.:31:18.

see why, she has been a great ally, a great friend. Through all of this.

:31:19.:31:23.

Everybody doesn't quite know how to handle it. The book is called The

:31:24.:31:32.

Secrets Of My Life. We will take a pause for the news, but we will be

:31:33.:31:37.

back with you. There is a very moving scene in the book where you

:31:38.:31:41.

are clearing out your closet later and she comes along and wants to go

:31:42.:31:45.

through it with you. So many moving things and moments in my life. Lots

:31:46.:31:49.

more to talk about. Do stay with us. We will be back to you. We love your

:31:50.:31:57.

experience -- we would love your experiences, and we will put them to

:31:58.:31:58.

Caitlyn. The US president has defended his

:31:59.:32:19.

decision to sack James Comey. He was investigating possible collusion

:32:20.:32:22.

between the Trump campaign officials and Moscow. Mr Trump insisted he is

:32:23.:32:28.

not under investigation by the FBI over alleged links with Russia.

:32:29.:32:35.

Jeremy Corbyn will insist he isn't a pacifist and he's prepared to use

:32:36.:32:38.

military force as a last resort in a major speech on

:32:39.:32:41.

The Labour leader will also pledge a "robust", independent

:32:42.:32:47.

foreign policy and says there will be "no hand holding"

:32:48.:32:49.

with US President Donald Trump if he's Prime Minister.

:32:50.:32:59.

Brazil has declared an end to a national emergency over

:33:00.:33:02.

the Zika virus after the number of cases dropped 95%

:33:03.:33:05.

between January and April, compared to the same period

:33:06.:33:07.

The virus has been linked to microcephaly where babies are born

:33:08.:33:12.

The threat was at its peak as Brazil prepared to host the 2016 Olympics,

:33:13.:33:18.

and the Zika virus has been linked to severe birth defects

:33:19.:33:21.

Detectives investigating the death of a businessman,

:33:22.:33:25.

who was shot dead during a suspected burglary at his home in Dorset,

:33:26.:33:28.

Police say a 45-year-old man from Poole is being questioned

:33:29.:33:33.

on suspicion of conspiracy to commit aggravated burglary.

:33:34.:33:36.

Three men have been charged with murdering Guy Hedger

:33:37.:33:39.

during the May Day Bank Holiday weekend.

:33:40.:33:42.

Thousands of weapons have been seized in schools

:33:43.:33:45.

Figures provided by 32 police forces to the Press Association show that,

:33:46.:33:51.

in the last two years, more than 2,500 weapons had

:33:52.:33:54.

Police chiefs said there had been a "worrying" increase in young

:33:55.:33:59.

people carrying knives including swords, axes and air-guns.

:34:00.:34:00.

We will have more on that at 10:15am when we speak to people who deal

:34:01.:34:07.

with the issue with children in schools.

:34:08.:34:10.

A Mexican businesswoman who was known for successfully

:34:11.:34:13.

investigating the kidnap and murder of her daughter by a local

:34:14.:34:15.

drug cartel has been killed by armed intruders.

:34:16.:34:17.

Miriam Rodriguez Martinez headed a local association of 600

:34:18.:34:20.

families who were searching for their disappeared relatives,

:34:21.:34:23.

and the information she gave the police ensured some gang

:34:24.:34:26.

The UN mission in Mexico condemned the attack.

:34:27.:34:34.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

:34:35.:34:37.

Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho says winning

:34:38.:34:48.

the Europa League would be the "perfect end"

:34:49.:34:50.

United drew 1-1 with Celta Vigo at Old Trafford last night meaning

:34:51.:34:56.

they're into the final 2-1 on aggregate.

:34:57.:34:59.

Victory in Stockholm against Ajax would see them qualify

:35:00.:35:02.

Chelsea can win the Premier League title tonight.

:35:03.:35:08.

A win at West Brom would give them an unassailable ten point lead over

:35:09.:35:11.

Victory would make Antonio Conte only the fourth manager to win

:35:12.:35:16.

the Premier League in his first season in England.

:35:17.:35:18.

Andy Murray says he's "concerned" after his latest defeat

:35:19.:35:21.

He was knocked out of the Madrid Open in straight

:35:22.:35:27.

sets by Borna Coric, a player ranked 58 places below him.

:35:28.:35:30.

And Masters champion Sergio Garcia hit the shot of the day

:35:31.:35:33.

at the Players Championship at Sawgrass.

:35:34.:35:36.

He hit a hole in one on the 17th hole.

:35:37.:35:39.

But he finished the day six shots behind the leader on 1-over par.

:35:40.:35:59.

You were talking about Kim who asked to two years before you came out

:36:00.:36:06.

what was going on. Sometime later you were out your closet. It was a

:36:07.:36:13.

conversation you had and you did not talk about it for some time

:36:14.:36:17.

afterwards. She came to you when you were clearing out Bruce's clothes.

:36:18.:36:24.

Yes. That was... I knew when her father passed away that she had kept

:36:25.:36:28.

some of the clothes because I remember moving those clothes from

:36:29.:36:35.

one storage area to the next. For me it was kind of tough because first

:36:36.:36:41.

of all I did not think it would be difficult clearing out my closet. I

:36:42.:36:45.

wanted to clean out my closet and bring in fresh stuff all my life but

:36:46.:36:49.

when I got there to clear out the closet it was like, I am throwing

:36:50.:36:53.

away this person who has been part of me all these years. The clothes

:36:54.:36:58.

kind of symbolised a lot of that, and Kim wanted to have some of the

:36:59.:37:01.

clothes that she could distribute within the family, anybody who might

:37:02.:37:06.

wanted, and surprisingly a lot of the kids did want the stuff. It was

:37:07.:37:17.

kind of tough on me. To do that. Those were the milestones. The next

:37:18.:37:22.

was getting name and gender marker change. All the way to, I was born

:37:23.:37:27.

in the state of New York, there are 31 states you cannot change your

:37:28.:37:31.

birth certificate gender marker. Fortunately in New York you could

:37:32.:37:36.

and so I was able to get everything changed all the way back to my birth

:37:37.:37:41.

certificate. I remember when all of that was going on it was almost like

:37:42.:37:45.

you were throwing this person under the bus. He was kind of gone, and

:37:46.:37:52.

honestly I liked Bruce, he was a good person. You felt that. I felt

:37:53.:38:00.

that and the family felt it. How are the leash and ships now? You talked

:38:01.:38:05.

about there being a void with some of the kids. Yes. Relationship is

:38:06.:38:10.

different. I have a lot of kids. In some cases it has got a lot better

:38:11.:38:15.

and in other cases for now it has made little death and. Who has got

:38:16.:38:22.

better with? I would rather not put names or labels on that. A lot of

:38:23.:38:28.

the kids I have gotten closer to. Other ones have struggled more with

:38:29.:38:36.

it. Why? They are facing a loss in the family, loss of Bruce. What I

:38:37.:38:44.

have tried to say to my kids as you did not lose old Bruce, you got me.

:38:45.:38:50.

I am a better person today than Bruce ever was. More understanding,

:38:51.:38:53.

more giving, bigger heart, more comfortable with yourself, happier

:38:54.:39:01.

than Bruce ever was, plus I do not have any secrets with you. I am not

:39:02.:39:06.

hiding anything. I am totally open and that is a wonderful feeling to

:39:07.:39:10.

be in your life, and that is what the book is all about, getting to

:39:11.:39:15.

that point in life. Everybody has staff, things they have to deal with

:39:16.:39:24.

the life that are tough. This is my stuff and the book is about how I

:39:25.:39:28.

dealt with it in all those years in good reason badly then getting to

:39:29.:39:32.

the point where I can live my life honestly. That is a hard transition

:39:33.:39:37.

to make. In the book you say that a couple of the kids asked if they can

:39:38.:39:42.

still call you dad. Do they? Yes. I will always be their dad. Do they

:39:43.:39:50.

all call you dad? It's kind of gets tough dad for that is tough on them,

:39:51.:39:57.

but I am not going to hung up on that. I am there father and have

:39:58.:40:04.

been their father all their life. In the trans community they fight about

:40:05.:40:08.

getting the pronouns right. I am probably more lax than most people

:40:09.:40:14.

because I didn't later in life, I got more baggage, more kids. I am

:40:15.:40:19.

very open with them. If they mess up the mess up. I have messed up in the

:40:20.:40:25.

last two years. We have a question which refers to that. Does anyone

:40:26.:40:31.

ever accidentally referred to you as he or Bruce? How does that make you

:40:32.:40:36.

feel? Of course. Within the trans community that is a no, get it

:40:37.:40:41.

right, I am not that strict. The other day I was at Starbucks and I

:40:42.:40:49.

was walking out and this guy comes walking up, because I take about 30,

:40:50.:40:59.

40, 50 selfies everyday with people, and he actually said, Bruce, can I

:41:00.:41:03.

have the picture? Obviously he messed up. Nobody has called me that

:41:04.:41:09.

in a while. At first I backed up a little bit. I thought that is kind

:41:10.:41:15.

of strange. On the other hand this is kind of the way I feel. Probably

:41:16.:41:22.

95% of the people that come up and say something have never met anybody

:41:23.:41:27.

who is trans. They do not understand the subject. They do not know

:41:28.:41:32.

anything about it. They think we are kind of crazy people on the fringe

:41:33.:41:38.

of society. We are not. We are an integral part of society. I have met

:41:39.:41:43.

some of the most wonderful great smart intelligent people in my

:41:44.:41:47.

community. It is great. When I have something like that I am not going

:41:48.:41:53.

to be confrontational. I said, great, I took the picture and I

:41:54.:41:57.

never mentioned it and moved on. I want that first and maybe only

:41:58.:42:00.

impression of somebody who is trans to be something positive and good.

:42:01.:42:06.

What are the ways you think improvements can be made? We look at

:42:07.:42:11.

the Trump administration, you voted for President Trump. I did! He has

:42:12.:42:18.

withdrawn a piece of federal guidance which allowed students to

:42:19.:42:22.

use whatever bathrooms or changing rooms match the gender they

:42:23.:42:29.

identified with. OK with. I have always been on the Republican side

:42:30.:42:33.

because they are more conservative than my thinking. I am not into

:42:34.:42:37.

massive government. I think the people of her country make the

:42:38.:42:41.

country strong, not the government. The Republicans have been more on

:42:42.:42:47.

that side than the Democrats although they have obviously

:42:48.:42:50.

disappointed me lately. Trump was our candidate so obviously I am

:42:51.:42:57.

going to vote that week but I am not a big supporter of the Republican

:42:58.:43:03.

party or of Donald Trump. I am a big supporter of my community. That is

:43:04.:43:07.

what I am fighting for. Does that make you regret voting for him, what

:43:08.:43:13.

he has done? It does not make me regret my vote but it is very

:43:14.:43:16.

disappointing. I have been very verbal about that. I thought Trump

:43:17.:43:23.

would be better on these issues. Why? Because I talked to him. What

:43:24.:43:37.

conversations did you have? He spoke about the LGBT community and he

:43:38.:43:43.

spoke about a woman who he was in support of and he said that she was

:43:44.:43:53.

totally welcome. He hires a lot of gay people in the LGBT community. I

:43:54.:43:56.

thought he could make some changes. He came in and I think he has

:43:57.:44:02.

probably been influenced a lot by a lot of the people around him not to

:44:03.:44:06.

take away any of his responsibility, because he is the president, he

:44:07.:44:13.

eventually signed that, but Barack Obama had put into place something

:44:14.:44:19.

when the North Carolina bathroom issue came in and hear is indeed

:44:20.:44:28.

that which upset me. I do go back to Washington, DC and I talked to

:44:29.:44:31.

people. Do his actions undermine what he said to you and therefore

:44:32.:44:38.

your faith in him? There is other things... No. For my community, I

:44:39.:44:43.

have to keep a close eye on the sky, yes, but other things he has done,

:44:44.:44:51.

since I am conservative,... Will you have more conversations with him

:44:52.:44:56.

about... Make it easier to do business rates in our country

:44:57.:44:59.

instead of the highest tax rate in the world. Would you try to have

:45:00.:45:03.

more conversations with him about the LGBT community? I will. How? Do

:45:04.:45:13.

you want to be there. My loyalties with my community. Can you pick up

:45:14.:45:18.

the phone to him and have a conversation? I cannot tell you all

:45:19.:45:25.

of my secrets! Can I? I do have communication. I work very closely

:45:26.:45:30.

with a group called the American Unity fund whose mission statement

:45:31.:45:39.

is to help the Republican party do a better job when it comes to LGBT

:45:40.:45:43.

issues. They do a wonderful job. They are on the ground all day long

:45:44.:45:47.

and now where the bodies are buried in the Republican Party and I worked

:45:48.:45:52.

very closely to change the thinking of the Republican Party. I think the

:45:53.:45:55.

best thing the Republican Party can do is do a better job with LGBT

:45:56.:45:58.

issues. Would you go into politics? I have

:45:59.:46:13.

been asked back. I do contribute. As far as my issue, in issues where I

:46:14.:46:18.

have dealing with the Republican party, I could do a better job

:46:19.:46:23.

behind the scenes. I have been asked that question a bit. Over the next

:46:24.:46:26.

year I'm looking into it, to be honest. I have to be smart about

:46:27.:46:31.

this. Where can I do a better job for my community? In bringing the

:46:32.:46:37.

Republican party around all LGBT issues. Is it from the outside?

:46:38.:46:43.

Working in the perimeter? Working with everybody to get the

:46:44.:46:46.

Republicans to change their thinking? Or is it better off to

:46:47.:46:50.

begin the inside? Running the Congress, a Senate seat, wherever it

:46:51.:46:55.

may be, and doing it there? Those are the things I am evaluating. When

:46:56.:47:00.

I did mention that a couple of weeks ago on a show, the next thing you

:47:01.:47:04.

know, of course, the media, I'm running for president, OK? That's

:47:05.:47:11.

cleared up. Could you see yourself ever running for president? I was

:47:12.:47:17.

starting about maybe the Mayor of Malibu. And work my way through the

:47:18.:47:23.

political ranks. Start somewhere. Would you, sort of, say now that

:47:24.:47:28.

that is potentially a goal for you, running one day? Not so much a goal.

:47:29.:47:36.

My goal is to do a better job for my community. I had to figure out where

:47:37.:47:40.

that is. Where can I be to do a better job, to bring understanding

:47:41.:47:47.

to the LGBT community, especially the T portion of that. Rosie has

:47:48.:47:55.

tweeted a question. What would you say to people who look to you as a

:47:56.:47:58.

trans-role model and want to go through it? You know what... I read

:47:59.:48:06.

this report over the last couple of years. The amount of trans people

:48:07.:48:20.

have doubled. And I'm going, Oh! The entrance is very, very difficult. It

:48:21.:48:26.

is a personal decision, what you do. Have I brought a little bit more

:48:27.:48:29.

understanding, besides the people that went before me, did I bring

:48:30.:48:35.

more understanding and maybe show some courage, and how good it is to

:48:36.:48:43.

be able to live your authentic self, and because of that has it inspired

:48:44.:48:50.

other people? Yes, it has. Honestly, people come up to me almost on a

:48:51.:48:54.

daily basis and tell me that. But it is a personal decision. For anybody.

:48:55.:49:00.

It is a major decision. We have such issues in our community. The murder

:49:01.:49:10.

rate for trans people. Nine since the beginning of the year, already

:49:11.:49:14.

this year, 12-macro weeks ago in Miami. Mostly on trans women of

:49:15.:49:20.

colour. That is where a real problem is. -- there was one, that was two

:49:21.:49:31.

weeks ago in Miami. Major, major issues we have out there. We have to

:49:32.:49:36.

solve those problems. Make people feel good about who they are. Being

:49:37.:49:41.

trans-is part of humanity. It does not have borders. -- being trans-,

:49:42.:49:51.

it is part of humanity. Being people, it is who we are, it has

:49:52.:49:55.

been around forever. It is nothing new. Maybe in the last 30 years it

:49:56.:50:01.

has come forward a bit more, but it is nothing new. It has been around

:50:02.:50:06.

forever. I don't want to be responsible for people going through

:50:07.:50:10.

this. Because when you transition it isn't just you. It is the entire

:50:11.:50:15.

family. Every loved one you have. It is a huge, major, major decision in

:50:16.:50:20.

your life. But I would also like to show that if that is what you do,

:50:21.:50:26.

that you are going to make it, it is going to be OK. And hopefully

:50:27.:50:29.

society will accept you and your family will accept you. I am

:50:30.:50:35.

admiring your necklace. Tell us the story of that. Right after the

:50:36.:50:54.

awards were over, the ESPIES, the head of it gave it to me and we've

:50:55.:51:00.

been friends ever since. When you go to bed, what is the last thing you

:51:01.:51:04.

think about that night? You told me earlier in the interview that you

:51:05.:51:07.

did not think you would ever get to this. I had lost enthusiasm for

:51:08.:51:12.

life. Back in the old days when I was training. I wasn't making any

:51:13.:51:19.

money. I was living on a poverty level, $10,000 per year, training,

:51:20.:51:25.

but I would get up every day and I was so excited to get started, I had

:51:26.:51:29.

training to do, competitions coming up. And I thought myself, when I was

:51:30.:51:34.

on my long runs, I never want to lose enthusiasm for life. I always

:51:35.:51:38.

wanted to wake up excited for the day. I lost that. I lost that for

:51:39.:51:46.

many, many, many years. Now I have that enthusiasm for life back. I

:51:47.:51:51.

could live my life authentically. I can put my head on the pillow at

:51:52.:51:56.

night. I know that I have had a good day. I am in a position where I can

:51:57.:52:01.

make a difference. I'm playing the fourth quarter of life. What a great

:52:02.:52:05.

opportunity in life, to be able to play the last quarter of your life

:52:06.:52:10.

with a very, in a lot of ways, with a very marginalised community that

:52:11.:52:13.

is out there which is totally misunderstood. It changed people's

:52:14.:52:18.

lives. Going around the US, going around the world, present yourself

:52:19.:52:22.

in a way, in a very positive way, that can make a difference. Are you

:52:23.:52:28.

scared of anything any more? No, what I've been through, I can handle

:52:29.:52:31.

anything, yes. Great to meet you. Thank you for coming in. Thank you

:52:32.:52:36.

for having me. I am glad you enjoyed the book. It is funny, isn't it? As

:52:37.:52:41.

well as dark moments. We must show the humour in this. Thanks very

:52:42.:52:47.

much. If you would like to see the full interview again, it will be on

:52:48.:52:48.

the web page. Those were the words

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President Donald Trump used to describe the former FBI

:52:53.:52:55.

Chief James Comey, Mr Comey was leading an inquiry

:52:56.:52:57.

into alleged Russian meddling in the US election and possible

:52:58.:53:01.

collusion between Trump campaign Mr Trump has dismissed

:53:02.:53:03.

the probe as a "charade", a claim directly contradicted

:53:04.:53:06.

by Mr Comey's successor. The FBI's new acting leader

:53:07.:53:08.

contradicted the president's account that the FBI had been in turmoil

:53:09.:53:10.

before he fired Comey. Donald Trump gave his first

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interview since the sacking to NBC. We talk about that interview -

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and more - with Blanquita Cullum a Republican journalist

:53:16.:53:25.

and broadcaster, Margie Omero, a Democratic pollster

:53:26.:53:26.

and strategist, and here in the studio with us

:53:27.:53:28.

is Alana Horowitz who's the assignment editor

:53:29.:53:30.

at the Huffington Post. Thank you all very much. Alana, the

:53:31.:53:42.

first, sorry finding my way through the studio to you. It has been quite

:53:43.:53:48.

a week, hasn't it? James Comey got the letter when he was addressing

:53:49.:53:52.

members of his team. How do things stand now finally with Donald Trump

:53:53.:53:55.

speaking about what he did it and how he sees James Comey. Quite

:53:56.:54:01.

chaotic. There have been mixed messages all week from the White

:54:02.:54:04.

House. They have placed the blame on the decision. It was said that while

:54:05.:54:12.

Donald Trump was working from a recommendation he got. Then he said

:54:13.:54:15.

it was his decision and that he was going to do it anyway. People are

:54:16.:54:19.

confused about where this decision is coming from. What is behind it.

:54:20.:54:22.

Americans are concerned about it. How about you? You are a Republican.

:54:23.:54:46.

I thought it was an opinion piece. Unlike what you did, and I enjoyed

:54:47.:54:50.

your interview, by the way, the difference was you allowed a

:54:51.:54:53.

discussion. What they did, what happened with Lester Holt, is, first

:54:54.:54:58.

of all, it was, kind of,'. It was edited. It was cut. -- it was, kind

:54:59.:55:11.

of, edited. Instead of going to a commercial and coming back and

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continuing with the interview, they went to a White House correspondent

:55:15.:55:18.

who played a lot of excerpts of opinions from people. Away from the

:55:19.:55:24.

style of the interview. When President Trump comes out and says

:55:25.:55:27.

what he said about the former head of the FBI, how do you see that? Do

:55:28.:55:33.

you think he has done the right thing? Do you have some sympathy

:55:34.:55:37.

with James Comey? The difference I have is I was said it confirmed. I

:55:38.:55:43.

had to go through a Senate confirmation. When you were at that

:55:44.:55:47.

level you understand that you serve at the pleasure of the president.

:55:48.:55:50.

The president can fire you any day of the week for any reason. James

:55:51.:55:57.

Comey was different. I know other directors of the FBI. There was

:55:58.:56:02.

Louis Freeh, Sessions, others that have been in place, and they were

:56:03.:56:10.

fired. Sessions was let go. What James Comey did which was

:56:11.:56:14.

different... Sorry to interrupt you, because I would like to bring in

:56:15.:56:20.

Margie who is Democrat. How do you see the sacking? It is embarrassing.

:56:21.:56:26.

The first explanation, they have an aftermath after the firing, it

:56:27.:56:29.

wasn't credible, it wasn't believable. Over the course of the

:56:30.:56:35.

week we have got to a point where there is a believable scenario,

:56:36.:56:37.

which is the president simply did not want him there any more because

:56:38.:56:42.

of the investigations into Russia. That is more believable than a

:56:43.:56:47.

Deputy Attorney General saying, I have a recommendation everybody

:56:48.:56:50.

asked for come here it is, let's go. That wasn't believable. The answer

:56:51.:56:56.

is better. The answer is worse. The answer may be believable, but it is

:56:57.:56:59.

something which is so incredibly inappropriate. Yes, he is allowed to

:57:00.:57:04.

fire the FBI director, that does not mean he should have done it in this

:57:05.:57:10.

case for this reason. Trump's poll numbers were already taking a hit. A

:57:11.:57:15.

new poll came out yesterday and it showed that Trump has a record low

:57:16.:57:22.

approval rating. We will see what happens. There has been no news this

:57:23.:57:25.

week. This is the only thing which has been in the political news this

:57:26.:57:29.

week. Very different respective there, Alana. Undermining what we

:57:30.:57:37.

already knew, Trump has divided America. Polarising in the way

:57:38.:57:40.

people will look at this. Definitely. If we have learnt

:57:41.:57:45.

anything from Trump, he really garners very strong opinions. People

:57:46.:57:50.

love him and people hate him. Right now it seems like he is turning in

:57:51.:57:56.

the direction of disapproval. Just because of the disapproval ratings

:57:57.:58:04.

and what is going on. I think we will see if the Russian

:58:05.:58:09.

investigation affects his polls. How dependent is it on who comes in to

:58:10.:58:13.

replace James Comey? I think that is part of it. With the FBI

:58:14.:58:18.

investigation. I think the White House will probably avoid, as much

:58:19.:58:23.

as they possibly can, trying to, at least, give the appearance they are

:58:24.:58:29.

interfering in it. The don't forget, the FBI was responsible for just one

:58:30.:58:34.

investigation. The Congress and Senate are also investigating it.

:58:35.:58:42.

And they are pretty determined on seeing it through, particularly the

:58:43.:58:46.

Democrats. Right, I think we are going to catch up with the weather.

:58:47.:58:52.

Good morning. Farmers and gardeners will be happy with the forecast.

:58:53.:58:55.

There has been a dry spell across much of the UK. Some areas have had

:58:56.:59:04.

18 days without rain. But that changed last night. And there is

:59:05.:59:09.

more rain to come. It is coming from the south. It has been a wet start

:59:10.:59:14.

for many. Particularly for Wales and West of East Anglia. In its wake

:59:15.:59:20.

there will be brighter skies by nasty thunderstorms for Wales, the

:59:21.:59:24.

Midlands and East Anglia. They could drift into northern England. For

:59:25.:59:31.

parts of Scotland, another sunny and warm one. 21 is possible in the

:59:32.:59:35.

Highlands. That will change. Outbreaks of rain for Scotland,

:59:36.:59:39.

Northern Ireland, West Wales and Northern Ireland. It'll be a mild

:59:40.:59:41.

and muggy night. Especially across Scotland. A great start to Saturday

:59:42.:59:47.

here. Outbreaks of rain in the morning for Scotland, Northern

:59:48.:59:51.

Ireland and northern England. The further east, the brighter the

:59:52.:59:55.

skies. There are showers around. Mainly light. Mainly passing through

:59:56.:59:58.

with the breeze. Lots of sunshine to the south-east coast. Temperatures

:59:59.:00:06.

between 14 to 19 degrees, and not as humid as it has been. There will be

:00:07.:00:11.

a spell of overnight rain pushing off into the North Sea coming into

:00:12.:00:14.

Sunday. But then sunshine and showers for the day. Those showers

:00:15.:00:19.

in the north-west could be heavy and thundery. A full forecast on the

:00:20.:00:21.

website. Enjoy your weekend. Caitlyn Jenner tells this programme

:00:22.:00:31.

how she's now living as her "true self" after her transition to living

:00:32.:00:36.

as a woman. As Bruce she won an Olympic gold

:00:37.:00:39.

medal, raised ten children and became a reality TV star

:00:40.:00:41.

in Keeping up with the Kardashians. She's been telling us

:00:42.:00:44.

about her struggle. I just dropped out of life. I love

:00:45.:00:52.

that my house by myself. I did not quite. I did not do anything. I went

:00:53.:00:59.

out to work every once in a while. I became like a hermit. I did not feel

:01:00.:01:01.

like I fit in anywhere. We've a special report

:01:02.:01:06.

from Baltimore in the United States, where murder rates, especially those

:01:07.:01:08.

of young black men, have been It's like you feel you're teaching

:01:09.:01:11.

in some disenfranchised country that there's this war going on out there,

:01:12.:01:23.

it's like this war that's being waged against our

:01:24.:01:25.

young people, especially It's 20 years since we last won

:01:26.:01:27.

the Eurovision song contest, so what are our chances

:01:28.:01:33.

this time round? Will UK hopeful Lucie Jones

:01:34.:01:35.

lead us to victory? I don't care what I have to do.

:01:36.:01:43.

You're the one that I'm running to # Now to the BBC Newsroom

:01:44.:02:03.

with a summary of today's news. US President Donald Trump has

:02:04.:02:08.

defended his decision to fire former FBI director

:02:09.:02:12.

James Comey, who he called In an interview with NBC News,

:02:13.:02:14.

the president said it was his decision alone to sack Mr Comey,

:02:15.:02:19.

who was leading an inquiry into alleged Russian interference

:02:20.:02:23.

in the US election and possible collusion between Trump campaign

:02:24.:02:26.

officials and Moscow. Mr Trump also insisted he is not

:02:27.:02:31.

under investigation by the FBI over Jeremy Corbyn will insist he isn't

:02:32.:02:34.

a pacifist and he's prepared to use military force as a last resort

:02:35.:02:41.

in a major speech on The Labour leader will also pledge

:02:42.:02:44.

a "robust", independent foreign policy and says

:02:45.:02:49.

there will be "no hand holding" with US President Donald Trump

:02:50.:02:51.

if he's Prime Minister. Brazil has declared an end

:02:52.:02:55.

to a national emergency over the Zika virus after the number

:02:56.:02:58.

of cases dropped 95% between January and April,

:02:59.:03:02.

compared to the same period The virus has been linked to

:03:03.:03:04.

microcephaly where babies are born The threat was at its peak as Brazil

:03:05.:03:09.

prepared to host the 2016 Olympics, and the Zika virus has been linked

:03:10.:03:16.

to severe birth defects Detectives investigating

:03:17.:03:18.

the death of a businessman, who was shot dead during a suspected

:03:19.:03:24.

burglary at his home in Dorset, Police say a 45-year-old man

:03:25.:03:27.

from Poole is being questioned on suspicion of conspiracy

:03:28.:03:33.

to commit aggravated burglary. Three men have been charged

:03:34.:03:36.

with murdering Guy Hedger during the May Day Bank Holiday

:03:37.:03:38.

weekend. Thousands of weapons have

:03:39.:03:41.

been seized in schools Figures provided by 32 police forces

:03:42.:03:43.

to the Press Association show that, in the last two years,

:03:44.:03:51.

more than 2,500 weapons had Police chiefs said there had been

:03:52.:03:54.

a "worrying" increase in young people carrying knives including

:03:55.:03:58.

swords, axes and air-guns. A Mexican businesswoman

:03:59.:04:03.

who was known for successfully investigating the kidnap and murder

:04:04.:04:06.

of her daughter by a local drug cartel has been

:04:07.:04:09.

killed by armed intruders. Miriam Rodriguez Martinez headed

:04:10.:04:13.

a local association of 600 families who were searching

:04:14.:04:16.

for their disappeared relatives, and the information she gave

:04:17.:04:20.

the police ensured some gang The UN mission in Mexico

:04:21.:04:22.

condemned the attack. An untitled Harry Potter prequel,

:04:23.:04:30.

which was handwritten on a postcard by JK Rowling,

:04:31.:04:32.

has been stolen in a The 800-word manuscript,

:04:33.:04:35.

which was written for a charity auction and sold for ?25,000,

:04:36.:04:41.

was stolen along with jewellery This is the Orange County

:04:42.:04:44.

Sheriff's Department. Be advised, State Parks is asking us

:04:45.:05:16.

to make an announcement to let you know you are paddle-boarding

:05:17.:05:18.

next to approximately 15 They are advising that you exit

:05:19.:05:21.

the water in a calm manner. The sharks are as close

:05:22.:05:26.

as the surf line. A woman was bitten in the area at

:05:27.:05:35.

the end of April. How quickly would they have moved? Quite incredible.

:05:36.:05:43.

That made us stop and focus. Can you imagine? You have been getting in

:05:44.:05:49.

touch on the conversation of Caitlin. Jane says it is great to

:05:50.:05:57.

see you on the programme, a beautiful person inside and out.

:05:58.:06:01.

Someone else says we think you are very brave, thank you for making it

:06:02.:06:08.

real. Mark says it is fascinating to hear Caitlyn talks candidly about

:06:09.:06:12.

what it was like to keep her secret so long. Also KT says she is a

:06:13.:06:20.

transgender women aged 64 who only began transitioning three years ago.

:06:21.:06:27.

She says I have had for Catholics support but sadly many transgender

:06:28.:06:30.

Biba do not have the happy transition -- the fantastic support.

:06:31.:06:38.

A difficult life long journey but telling us that in her 60s she is

:06:39.:06:43.

the person she was all is meant to be and she is very happy for it. The

:06:44.:06:49.

interview is on the web page. Also your comments are always welcome.

:06:50.:06:55.

Do get in touch with us throughout the morning.

:06:56.:06:58.

Use #VictoriaLIVE and if you text you will be charged

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Leave the water calmly with 15 great white sharks, I think not!

:07:01.:07:08.

Manchester United fans hoping to watch their side take on Ajax

:07:09.:07:10.

in the Europa League Final in Stockholm on May

:07:11.:07:13.

24th will have a tough task getting tickets.

:07:14.:07:15.

That's because, while the Friends Arena in Stockholm has

:07:16.:07:18.

a capacity of 50,000, United have been told they'll get

:07:19.:07:20.

fewer than 10,000 tickets for their supporters.

:07:21.:07:22.

Well, here's how they secured their place in that final last night.

:07:23.:07:24.

United were a goal up from the first leg and a fantastic header

:07:25.:07:27.

from Marouane Fellaini doubled their lead.

:07:28.:07:29.

But Facundo Roncaglia nodded Vigo level with a few minutes remaining

:07:30.:07:34.

before he and Eric Bailly were sent off shortly after.

:07:35.:07:37.

A tense final few minutes but United hung on.

:07:38.:07:41.

Their league finishes on Sunday and they will have

:07:42.:08:07.

Hopefully Crystal Palace does not need the last game.

:08:08.:08:12.

Because in the last game I am going to make a lot of changes.

:08:13.:08:15.

Tickets for Chelsea's match at West Brom this evening

:08:16.:08:22.

are being sold for nearly ?2000, that's because a win would make them

:08:23.:08:25.

Not many were predicting that at the start of the season.

:08:26.:08:30.

But Antonio Conte's side are seven points clear of Spurs,

:08:31.:08:33.

And if they do get the victory, it could be the first part

:08:34.:08:38.

The Blues are also into the FA Cup final

:08:39.:08:43.

Only three other managers have won the title in their first season,

:08:44.:08:52.

and Antonio Conte could become the fourth tonight.

:08:53.:08:54.

There was a bit of fielding practice for a BBC commentator yesterday.

:08:55.:08:57.

Durham beat Nottinghamshire by four wickets in their One Day Cup match,

:08:58.:09:02.

but it was a huge six from England opener Alex Hales that

:09:03.:09:05.

He hit three sixes in total during his innings of 104.

:09:06.:09:13.

But with this one, he found the only open window

:09:14.:09:16.

in the Trent Bridge Media Centre and the ball was picked up by one

:09:17.:09:19.

of the two commentators from the BBC covering the match.

:09:20.:09:22.

Here's how it sounded for Radio Nottingham's Dave Brace-girdle.

:09:23.:09:27.

COMMENTATOR: Hales hits this towards me -

:09:28.:09:30.

It's coming to our commentary position!

:09:31.:09:35.

It never gets boring. He should have packed his cricket helmet.

:09:36.:09:51.

I love how well-behaved he is. No swearing.

:09:52.:09:55.

It's the end of a busy week of campaigning for all the political

:09:56.:09:58.

parties with 26 days to go until the general election.

:09:59.:10:00.

Our political guru Norman Smith is in Westminster.

:10:01.:10:02.

What is the round-up of the week? It has been a one bam weeks,

:10:03.:10:13.

remorseless. I am worn out and it is weak one. The parties have been

:10:14.:10:17.

going at each other like the clubbers trying to land killer

:10:18.:10:21.

blows. We are beginning to see a pattern emerging were Michael Labour

:10:22.:10:25.

Party are desperately pumping out big policy announcements, unveiling

:10:26.:10:34.

their national education service to stand alongside the NHS. We had

:10:35.:10:39.

their manifesto the other day unfortunately leaked but they tried

:10:40.:10:41.

to take advantage of it with the holistic policies about

:10:42.:10:46.

nationalisation, and today we have Jeremy Corbyn setting out his vision

:10:47.:10:51.

of Labour's foreign policy. Labour putting out big policies and yet

:10:52.:10:58.

Theresa May and the Tory party have been remarkably silent. There have

:10:59.:11:01.

been no major announcements from the Tory party all week and I think that

:11:02.:11:07.

tells us that the Tories are quite happy for Labour to get all the

:11:08.:11:11.

headlines, they want to give them enough rope in the hope that Jeremy

:11:12.:11:14.

Corbyn might hang Labour's election prospects. We have this strange

:11:15.:11:21.

situation where Labour are out campaigning, putting out about

:11:22.:11:26.

policies, getting Jeremy Corbyn making big speeches, quite the

:11:27.:11:29.

reverse of the Tories who want to keep it quite quiet because they

:11:30.:11:32.

know they are miles ahead in the polls and do not have to do much at

:11:33.:11:38.

they are hoping Jeremy Corbyn will trap up. What sort of a week has it

:11:39.:11:45.

been for Jeremy Corbyn? In today's papers, they looked dreadful. But in

:11:46.:11:54.

a funny sort of way the team around Jeremy Corbyn are relaxed because

:11:55.:11:57.

they never expected to win over papers like the Daily Mail and The

:11:58.:12:02.

Sun. Their theory is that the more people get to see and hear him they

:12:03.:12:07.

will see that he is honest, not trying to hide anything, he has his

:12:08.:12:12.

convictions and he is not hiding them. He does not tailor everything

:12:13.:12:20.

to a particular sound bite. He just tells everything as he sees it. They

:12:21.:12:25.

think despite the dismal headlines in the mainstream media is the fact

:12:26.:12:29.

of getting him out there they think might begin to cut through a bit

:12:30.:12:35.

more with the electorate. It is not the sort of general election

:12:36.:12:39.

campaign we are used to. The focus seems to have been mainly on Labour.

:12:40.:12:46.

What can we expect going forward? Next week we get the manifestos or

:12:47.:12:51.

we expect to get all the main parties setting out the manifestos.

:12:52.:12:54.

This is where parties can no longer avoid difficult questions by saying

:12:55.:12:59.

you have to wait for the manifesto. We will have the manifestos and we

:13:00.:13:03.

will be able to see what they are going to do and how they are going

:13:04.:13:08.

to be followed. We will get the entrails of the policies the parties

:13:09.:13:12.

are proposing. There will be no hiding place from now on. We know

:13:13.:13:17.

exactly what they are promising, who is going to have to pay. There will

:13:18.:13:21.

be a moment of clarity I hope next week when we can finally say this is

:13:22.:13:25.

what they are proposing and this is how they think they are going to do

:13:26.:13:31.

it. That would be good. Every day until June 8th we'll be

:13:32.:13:38.

highlighting the best gaffe or highly amusing moment

:13:39.:13:41.

from the election We need a general election and we

:13:42.:13:43.

need one now. What do you have for us? The first

:13:44.:14:16.

Boeing is my kind of ABC for people in the general election campaign

:14:17.:14:19.

appearing before the media. Less than one, if you are making a big

:14:20.:14:26.

entrance or exit, do not repeat do not fall down the stairs. Watch.

:14:27.:14:40.

Ouch! You know that has they have parts. He is a big man and he has

:14:41.:14:49.

taken a big fall. It is one of those moments when you trip over and you

:14:50.:14:56.

cannot say anything. You know sometimes the doorbell goes and you

:14:57.:14:59.

do not answer because you think it is going to be somebody pestering

:15:00.:15:04.

you for money or you are in your pyjamas or you cannot be bothered?

:15:05.:15:11.

Unfortunately this chapter does not answer the doorbell but when he

:15:12.:15:15.

looks on his security camera he has an important visitor. Yes, that is

:15:16.:15:28.

right, it is the Prime Minister. Hurry, tried to get the front door!

:15:29.:15:39.

She is not there any more. I guess the lesson is when someone rings the

:15:40.:15:43.

doorbell you better answer because you do not know who it might be.

:15:44.:15:49.

You know when we want to show how parties are doing, we have brilliant

:15:50.:15:56.

people like Jeremy Vine dancing around on some sort of lit up

:15:57.:16:02.

floorboard. Emily pointing us to where the share of the vote is

:16:03.:16:06.

going. And who can forget Peter Snow with his arms flailing around? They

:16:07.:16:12.

are trumped by the election people of career. I love this. -- election

:16:13.:16:27.

people of Korea. I don't understand this. We need to have this sort of

:16:28.:16:31.

thing. But it needs to be more differentiated. It comes across as a

:16:32.:16:38.

PE class going mad. I think it is fantastic. We should do that our

:16:39.:16:42.

election coverage. Maybe we should get the crazy Koreans into newsroom.

:16:43.:16:51.

Isn't that a dab question mark I absolutely love it. -- isn't that a

:16:52.:16:58.

dab? We're going to be in Bedfordshire

:16:59.:17:01.

on Monday 29th May for a big who you're going to vote for,

:17:02.:17:04.

still deciding or don't think you'll bother -

:17:05.:17:09.

and would like the chance to share your views and grill senior

:17:10.:17:11.

politicians on their policies - Victoria@bbc.co.uk More details

:17:12.:17:14.

on our facebook and twitter pages. Thousands of weapons have

:17:15.:17:18.

been seized from schools across the country -

:17:19.:17:20.

with samurai swords, axes and air The majority of cases

:17:21.:17:22.

involved children - and in very rare cases some

:17:23.:17:25.

as young as five. That's according to figures released

:17:26.:17:27.

to the Press Association by 32 At least one in five

:17:28.:17:30.

incidents involved knives. Police chiefs said there had been

:17:31.:17:37.

a "worrying" increase in young people carrying knives,

:17:38.:17:40.

but said they're working with schools to help educate young

:17:41.:17:41.

people about why carrying any One of our reporters,

:17:42.:17:44.

Lesley Ashmall, made a film She spoke to Malika -

:17:45.:17:50.

who knows two people who've been stabbed, as well as one person

:17:51.:17:57.

who stabbed someone to death. It's really difficult to the young

:17:58.:18:05.

person and see the victim, and the murderer, to know them both, and do

:18:06.:18:10.

not know what to say. You are saying rest in peace to the person who

:18:11.:18:13.

died. But also the person who did it, you don't know what happened,

:18:14.:18:17.

and how the argument started. Then it is just a little argument, and

:18:18.:18:20.

somebody has died, and the other one is in prison. Dante has never been

:18:21.:18:25.

in a gander admits he has carried a knife in the past. He says boys do

:18:26.:18:29.

it simply because they are scared each other. Everyday, you know you

:18:30.:18:34.

will not be with your friends all the time. You won't have people to

:18:35.:18:40.

back you. It might seem like an alternative to other people. That's

:18:41.:18:43.

probably why they carry in the first place. If they think there is a sign

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of danger, they will pull something out, and get rid of it. If you are

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caught with a knife you could go to jail. Does that not put people off?

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There is people out there who would rather risk it and actually get this

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in -- would rather risk it and actually get physically hurt. They

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would take the risk. We can speak now to Damian Castello,

:19:11.:19:11.

who works with kids in schools dealing with the issue of knives,

:19:12.:19:14.

Rob Jackson, a nurse clinician in the emergency department

:19:15.:19:17.

at the Royal Liverpool Hospital who also presents in schools

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about his work and Carl Ward, the Chief Executive

:19:20.:19:22.

of the City Learning Trust - a group of 10 schools

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in Stoke-on-Trent. Thank you all for joining us.

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Damian, kids as young as five, really? Shocking, isn't it. We are a

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charity organisation that work with young people with a focus on

:19:39.:19:41.

reducing violent behaviour, anti-social behaviour, and reducing

:19:42.:19:47.

crime. Many of the young people we work with talk openly with us about

:19:48.:19:53.

the fact that they do carry weapons. If it is to school, their local

:19:54.:19:57.

community... What we consistently here as a message as they do not

:19:58.:20:03.

feel safe. They are carrying these weapons as self-defence or

:20:04.:20:08.

protection. Not to use them for any criminal activity as such. Or for

:20:09.:20:14.

any gang activity. We hear a lot about young people feeling unsafe.

:20:15.:20:20.

You go into schools and tell kids about the potential impact of what

:20:21.:20:25.

will happen, Rob, or what can happen if knives are carried and used. What

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sort of things have you seen? In the emergency department in Liverpool we

:20:32.:20:36.

spoken to nearly 70,000 people across Merseyside. We've seen a

:20:37.:20:39.

reduction in the number of people coming in with injuries. Anecdotally

:20:40.:20:44.

we are hearing reports that there is a reduction of people carrying

:20:45.:20:47.

knives. It is important we educate people about the reality if you are

:20:48.:20:52.

involved in a knife attack. We show unpleasant photos to people with

:20:53.:20:56.

their hands hanging off. People who have been stabbed. People who have

:20:57.:21:02.

been killed. We show people and tell people the stories and the reality

:21:03.:21:05.

of what it would be like if they were involved in a knife attack.

:21:06.:21:10.

Also, what it is like the their family, the hospital, the

:21:11.:21:13.

applications. We've spoken to around 700 people. I was in a school

:21:14.:21:16.

yesterday. We started with 150 people. By the time we finished 40

:21:17.:21:23.

had walked out. The pictures you describe our graphic. Incredibly and

:21:24.:21:27.

I think they have to be. Do they make a difference? The information

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we get told, yes, we think they do make a difference, we cannot see how

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they don't. We are not naive, we won't get rid of knife crime, but in

:21:38.:21:42.

Liverpool, with the work of the police officers and the hospital

:21:43.:21:45.

workers, we are making inroads into making people aware of the reality

:21:46.:21:48.

of what is involved in a knife attack. It has to be making a

:21:49.:21:54.

difference, yes. Damien says that kids carry knives because they don't

:21:55.:21:58.

feel safe. That is terrible if they don't think they are safe in

:21:59.:22:01.

schools. What you think the issue is? -- what do you think the issue

:22:02.:22:08.

is? I'm not sure people would say they feel unsafe in school.

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Safeguarding is one of the top priorities of every school in the

:22:13.:22:15.

country. This is a shocking report. I am a parent. We should all be

:22:16.:22:20.

worried about it in the UK. However, there are 8 million 500,000,

:22:21.:22:27.

approximately, students in the UK as we currently stand. -- however,

:22:28.:22:33.

there are 8.5 million, approximately, students in the UK as

:22:34.:22:39.

we currently stand. A very small percentage have experienced a

:22:40.:22:43.

scenario like this. The student population is growing in the UK by

:22:44.:22:49.

140,000 students... It is a small proportion. But for any kids to be

:22:50.:22:54.

carrying something like a samurai sword, and acts, however few it is

:22:55.:22:58.

deeply shocking and it will be worrying parents. -- and axes,

:22:59.:23:05.

however few it is, it is deeply shocking and it will be worrying

:23:06.:23:10.

parents. Yes. Education and prevention is the answer. Damien,

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you raised your eyebrows when he said that children do not feel safe

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in schools, do you think they are? There was a percentage that don't

:23:23.:23:26.

feel safe in school. Many people who attend schools come from different

:23:27.:23:30.

areas which may be in conflict. And therefore feel the need to carry

:23:31.:23:33.

weapons to school. How do you fix that? Education is the key. We need

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to give young people, first and foremost, the space and opportunity

:23:41.:23:44.

to be heard, to hear what it is like for them. Also, we need to identify

:23:45.:23:49.

what the underlying issues are as to why people are carrying. Who are you

:23:50.:23:57.

hearing from? Within schools, in the community, and the media. A safe

:23:58.:24:00.

environment for young people to talk about how they feel and their

:24:01.:24:06.

experiences. Also what we feel is important is that this problem

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cannot be tackled by one organisation, one community, and

:24:10.:24:13.

needs to be tackled by everybody as a whole. You describe it as a

:24:14.:24:19.

vulnerable children, children feeling vulnerable, people will look

:24:20.:24:21.

at those children carrying knives and think, no, tough kids, how do

:24:22.:24:27.

you get through to these kids? Giving them a space. Educating them.

:24:28.:24:32.

Raising the awareness of the dangers of carrying weapons. Many children

:24:33.:24:38.

who have carried weapons never intended to hurt anybody. But

:24:39.:24:42.

because they feel a threat this has led to some of them carrying out

:24:43.:24:48.

acts of violence. Karl, what about things like metal detectors, ways

:24:49.:24:53.

actually just not allowing it to happen? These shouldn't be in

:24:54.:24:56.

schools. Surely it should not be that difficult to stop it. It's not.

:24:57.:25:04.

The key point was just made that schools are part of communities.

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Schools reflect what happens in communities. We work hard to make

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schools safer places. We should use any means in our -- at our disposal

:25:14.:25:19.

to make sure they are kept safe. If that means a school thinking they

:25:20.:25:25.

need to use a metal detector, that will be up to that individual school

:25:26.:25:28.

to try and ensure that school is kept as safe as humanly possible. In

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terms of the work you do, Rob, and the difference you say you are

:25:36.:25:40.

making, you said that the beginning, actually, that you are seeing a

:25:41.:25:42.

reduction in your hospital. Talks around the picture, specifically

:25:43.:25:50.

your area. -- talk us the picture. I work in a city centre emergency

:25:51.:25:55.

department. We are busy. The trauma centres up the road in Aintree. The

:25:56.:25:59.

work we have done is showing that we have fewer people and 18 presenting

:26:00.:26:06.

with knife stab wins. We are not naive. The majority of people in

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cities are good people. The majority of kids are good kids. To tackle the

:26:11.:26:14.

problem we think education is the way forward. We have to show people

:26:15.:26:20.

the reality. The reality is that the majority of these people will not

:26:21.:26:24.

get involved. But we do this to keep people safe by showing them these

:26:25.:26:27.

horrible images and Callum Booth horrible stories. We will continue

:26:28.:26:32.

to do it if it helps. -- by showing them these horrible images and tell

:26:33.:26:38.

them these horrible stories. Do you tell them stories, show images? We

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don't. We give them a space to talk about their experience. Is it a

:26:45.:26:50.

helpful part? If you don't, this is the consequence... We absolutely

:26:51.:26:55.

talk about the consequences. Many young people are aware of them. They

:26:56.:26:59.

sometimes do not see any other way in which they can keep themselves

:27:00.:27:03.

safe. We work with young people to identify, teach them to raise

:27:04.:27:10.

awareness of how to defend themselves, as opposed to carrying

:27:11.:27:14.

knives. Thanks very much. Some comments on the interview with

:27:15.:27:17.

Caitlyn Jenner, lots of people getting in touch. Jane says my

:27:18.:27:22.

husband of 37 years came out as transgender 18 months ago. There has

:27:23.:27:25.

never been any signs before. When it comes to Mother's Day they get upset

:27:26.:27:32.

because they want to be known as -- because he wants to be known as mum,

:27:33.:27:36.

my son gets upset because it is his dad. Another message says a very

:27:37.:27:41.

honest account and so important to talk about LGBT issues. An e-mail

:27:42.:27:48.

from Marjorie, I was very impressed with her intelligent, articulate,

:27:49.:27:55.

response. I have a more positive image than I had before where I

:27:56.:27:58.

sometimes felt imitated by the preciousness of some trans-people.

:27:59.:28:03.

She should emphasise, as she did in your interview, the massive decision

:28:04.:28:08.

it is and it isn't to be taken lightly. Thank you for your

:28:09.:28:14.

comments. Keep in touch. Coming up: A special report from Baltimore in

:28:15.:28:16.

the United States where murder rates, especially of young black

:28:17.:28:21.

men, have been described as out of control. Sometimes you feel you are

:28:22.:28:27.

teaching in some disenfranchised country. That there is this war

:28:28.:28:34.

going on. And it is like this war that is being waged against our

:28:35.:28:37.

young people. Especially our young black men.

:28:38.:28:45.

For a summary of today's news, let's go to the BBC Newsroom.

:28:46.:28:47.

US President Donald Trump has defended his decision to fire

:28:48.:28:50.

former FBI director James Comey, who he called

:28:51.:28:52.

In an interview with NBC News, the president said it was his

:28:53.:28:56.

decision alone to sack Mr Comey, who was leading an inquiry

:28:57.:28:58.

into alleged Russian interference in the US election and possible

:28:59.:29:01.

collusion between Trump campaign officials and Moscow.

:29:02.:29:06.

Mr Trump also insisted he is not under investigation by the FBI over

:29:07.:29:10.

Jeremy Corbyn will insist he isn't a pacifist and he's prepared to use

:29:11.:29:15.

military force as a last resort in a major speech on

:29:16.:29:18.

The Labour leader will also pledge a "robust", independent

:29:19.:29:21.

foreign policy and says there will be "no hand holding"

:29:22.:29:24.

with US President Donald Trump if he's Prime Minister.

:29:25.:29:32.

Thousands of weapons have been seized in schools

:29:33.:29:35.

Figures provided by 32 police forces to the Press Association show that,

:29:36.:29:38.

in the last two years, more than 2,500 weapons had

:29:39.:29:41.

Police chiefs said there had been a "worrying" increase in young

:29:42.:29:48.

people carrying knives including swords, axes and air-guns.

:29:49.:29:58.

Tony Blair says he hopes the border between Ireland and the Irish

:29:59.:30:03.

Republic remains much the same when the UK leads the EU as it does now.

:30:04.:30:07.

Speaking to Irish media he said there was a consensus in British

:30:08.:30:11.

politics that the gains of the last few years in Northern Ireland should

:30:12.:30:15.

be retained. He is due to make a major speech in Ireland in the next

:30:16.:30:16.

half an hour. Brazil has declared an end

:30:17.:30:18.

to a national emergency over the Zika virus after the number

:30:19.:30:21.

of cases dropped 95% between January and April,

:30:22.:30:23.

compared to the same period The virus has been linked to

:30:24.:30:25.

microcephaly where babies are born The threat was at its peak as Brazil

:30:26.:30:29.

prepared to host the 2016 Olympics, and the Zika virus has been linked

:30:30.:30:35.

to severe birth defects A Mexican businesswoman

:30:36.:30:38.

who was known for successfully investigating the kidnap and murder

:30:39.:30:44.

of her daughter by a local drug cartel has been

:30:45.:30:47.

killed by armed intruders. Miriam Rodriguez Martinez headed

:30:48.:30:51.

a local association of 600 families who were searching

:30:52.:30:53.

for their disappeared relatives, and the information she gave

:30:54.:30:55.

the police ensured some gang The UN mission in Mexico

:30:56.:30:57.

condemned the attack. Detectives investigating

:30:58.:31:10.

the death of a businessman, who was shot dead during a suspected

:31:11.:31:13.

burglary at his home in Dorset, Police say a 45-year-old man

:31:14.:31:17.

from Poole is being questioned on suspicion of conspiracy

:31:18.:31:22.

to commit aggravated burglary. Three men have been charged

:31:23.:31:25.

with murdering Guy Hedger during the May Day Bank Holiday

:31:26.:31:27.

weekend. An untitled Harry Potter prequel,

:31:28.:31:32.

which was handwritten on a postcard by JK Rowling,

:31:33.:31:35.

has been stolen in a The 800-word manuscript,

:31:36.:31:37.

which was written for a charity auction and sold for ?25,000,

:31:38.:31:44.

was stolen along with jewellery Join me for BBC

:31:45.:31:46.

Newsroom live at 11am. Manchester United fans hoping

:31:47.:31:55.

to watch their side take on Ajax in the Europa League Final on May

:31:56.:32:03.

24th face a tough They'll get fewer than a fifth

:32:04.:32:06.

of the places available United made it there

:32:07.:32:10.

after drawing 1-1 with Celta Vigo at Old Trafford last night,

:32:11.:32:16.

winning the tie 2-1 on aggregate. Victory against Ajax in 12 days

:32:17.:32:20.

would see them qualify Chelsea can win the Premier

:32:21.:32:22.

League title tonight. A win at West Brom would give them

:32:23.:32:29.

an unassailable ten point lead over Victory would make Antonio Conte

:32:30.:32:33.

only the fourth manager to win the Premier League in his first

:32:34.:32:37.

season in England. Birmingham City have confirmed that

:32:38.:32:42.

Harry Redknapp has signed a one year deal to stay on as manager

:32:43.:32:45.

at the club. After Redknapp took over

:32:46.:32:47.

from Gianfranco Zola, Birmingham avoided relegation

:32:48.:32:51.

from the Championship. Andy Murray says he's "concerned"

:32:52.:32:56.

after his latest defeat He was knocked out of

:32:57.:32:58.

the Madrid Open in straight sets by Borna Coric,

:32:59.:33:05.

a player ranked 58 places below him. Murder rates in many US cities

:33:06.:33:15.

are on the rise, particularly Close to half of those killed are

:33:16.:33:18.

from the African American community. In the inner cities, young black men

:33:19.:33:23.

are particularly at risk. Baltimore's mayor has

:33:24.:33:27.

asked the FBI to step in. He's called the situation

:33:28.:33:29.

"out of control". Charlotte Pamment has been

:33:30.:33:31.

to Balitmore to meet the family and community affected by one

:33:32.:33:34.

of these tragic deaths. I just heard this scream,

:33:35.:33:38.

and it was like a howl They blurted out, he

:33:39.:33:41.

was here last night. And Miss Higgins, one

:33:42.:33:45.

of his favourite teachers, Of all the students,

:33:46.:33:48.

I was like, not him. # If you ain't happy here then

:33:49.:33:56.

you should take a flight. # To a happy place,

:33:57.:34:00.

and you should stay the night. # Life is great when you ain't

:34:01.:34:03.

scared of heights. # How are you supposed to fly

:34:04.:34:06.

if you are scared of heights? # And on a surface level,

:34:07.:34:09.

it's really basic, right? # I ain't scared to fail,

:34:10.:34:20.

I ain't scared to fight. You know, this was just

:34:21.:34:28.

like the ultimate storyline. The kid who dropped out,

:34:29.:34:33.

he came back and he came He just said, I'm going to try

:34:34.:34:37.

and go back to school. He said, there's

:34:38.:34:49.

nothing out here to do. We all fall, but we

:34:50.:34:52.

all can get back up. And his slogan to all the kids used

:34:53.:34:55.

to be, slow progress He used to talk about how

:34:56.:34:57.

he was going to show He would say, please,

:34:58.:35:02.

hold your applause, wait to the end. I said, Marco, we'll all be up

:35:03.:35:07.

shouting yes, yes, yes! I can't find a reason in this world

:35:08.:35:09.

why my son did not get I've thought about his mom,

:35:10.:35:36.

and I think one of the things that hurt me more than anything

:35:37.:35:46.

was thinking about his mom. I still can't get over,

:35:47.:35:55.

and can't imagine the pain He was a kid that could have went

:35:56.:35:57.

on and did brilliant things. The potential, we see

:35:58.:36:05.

their potential, and... Unfortunately, there are people out

:36:06.:36:13.

there who don't see that. There's people out there who,

:36:14.:36:17.

you know, they hate themselves, and because they hate themselves,

:36:18.:36:20.

they would rather take This was the fourth student,

:36:21.:36:25.

male student, that I had lost this school year,

:36:26.:36:36.

and it had became a bit To just watch brilliant young

:36:37.:36:38.

men's lives be taken. If I had to just speak

:36:39.:36:50.

about the reality of our existence as teachers in an inner city,

:36:51.:36:53.

well, so be it. It's like you sometimes feel

:36:54.:36:57.

like you're teaching in some disenfranchised country,

:36:58.:37:07.

you know, that there's this war going out there,

:37:08.:37:10.

and it's like this war that's been This past couple of months,

:37:11.:37:12.

all he desired was to get his high school diploma, walk across that

:37:13.:37:24.

stage and talk about what he was going to wear

:37:25.:37:27.

under the cap and gown. He's probably going to still do

:37:28.:37:30.

it, like, for real. He's probably going to walk up

:37:31.:37:33.

to the man and be, like, Even though my mom

:37:34.:37:37.

can't see, I can see. Caitlyn tenor has told this is

:37:38.:38:02.

loving as herself following her transition. I made that character so

:38:03.:38:12.

big. Not that... I loved playing Bruce. Bruce was a good person. He

:38:13.:38:16.

raised a tremendous family and did a lot of good things. I am very proud

:38:17.:38:23.

of what I was able to accomplish that way but I got to the age of 65

:38:24.:38:27.

after struggling with these issues for so many years and I was right

:38:28.:38:38.

back where I started from, in Malibu, I had raised ten wonderful

:38:39.:38:46.

great children, Kris and I had gone our separate ways, and I was still

:38:47.:38:49.

dealing with the same issues I had had since I was ten. What was I

:38:50.:38:55.

going to do with my life? After long conversations with God, with my

:38:56.:38:58.

pastor, with my children, I thought, you know what? In God's eyes, how

:38:59.:39:06.

does he see how I am doing? And I thought, finally, maybe this is the

:39:07.:39:12.

reason he put me on this earth at this time and at this place in

:39:13.:39:17.

society because I could not do it in the 80s when I was struggling. I

:39:18.:39:24.

said, maybe I can come forward, live my life honestly but also in doing

:39:25.:39:30.

that and having a platform maybe I can bring some understanding to the

:39:31.:39:35.

world in this issue. It was very fulfilling. That is what I have been

:39:36.:39:40.

doing for the past couple of years. Take us back to the little boy Bruce

:39:41.:39:47.

and the first time you... Cross dressed? Yes. That is going way back

:39:48.:39:55.

because I did not know why I was fascinated by either my sister or my

:39:56.:40:00.

mum's closet and I remember going in there fascinated by all of that

:40:01.:40:07.

stuff. At what age? Just getting some clothes, my hair was short, it

:40:08.:40:13.

was in the 50s, I put a scarf over my head, through on a little

:40:14.:40:19.

lipstick, got in my mum's outfits or whatever it was that walked around

:40:20.:40:25.

the apartment complex. Little did I know that would be a pattern I would

:40:26.:40:30.

do all the way until I was 65. I did not know why I felt so comfortable

:40:31.:40:40.

doing that. That it felt like me but it was also the great taboo, I could

:40:41.:40:48.

not tell anybody. That kind of set-up the pattern. When you go

:40:49.:40:50.

through something like this you always wonder why? Is it the

:40:51.:40:58.

excitement, is that what it is about? And I really trans? I might

:40:59.:41:06.

just a cross-dresser? Is it sexual? You go through for all of those

:41:07.:41:09.

years everything in your head and eventually I came to the point where

:41:10.:41:14.

I realise this is me, this is who I am. What was the first conversation

:41:15.:41:20.

you had within a body about it? Probably my first ex-wife. After we

:41:21.:41:25.

had been married for a while I told I had some issues and these were the

:41:26.:41:30.

things going my head. That was the first time you had spoken to

:41:31.:41:35.

anybody? Yes. I could not speak to my sister. We just saw a picture of

:41:36.:41:40.

you and your sister Pam, you were very close. Yes, we continue to be

:41:41.:41:47.

close. Linda, my second marriage, we were only married for four years, we

:41:48.:41:53.

had two wonderful children. I told to her, I was struggling in the 80s.

:41:54.:41:59.

We went our separate directions and for the next six years I just

:42:00.:42:06.

dropped out of life. I lived in my house by myself. I did not go out, I

:42:07.:42:13.

did not do anything, I went out to work once in a while, I became like

:42:14.:42:18.

a hermit, I did not feel like I fit in anywhere. The guys did not fit in

:42:19.:42:25.

with the girls. That was Caitlyn Jenner. You can see the full

:42:26.:42:29.

interview on the programme page. Robert says she comes across as a

:42:30.:42:33.

genuine person, it has definitely opened my eyes. Someone else says it

:42:34.:42:40.

is fascinating to listen to her. She obviously these all sides of

:42:41.:42:46.

people's problems and speaks warmly on life. Well done you. Keep your

:42:47.:42:54.

thoughts coming in. We are expecting to hear from Tony Blair shortly

:42:55.:42:57.

because he has spoken of his desire to get back into politics with

:42:58.:43:01.

Brexit and he is going to be speaking shortly. We are hoping to

:43:02.:43:07.

bring you some coverage of him delivering a speech on Brexit at a

:43:08.:43:12.

meeting, the largest political grouping in the European Parliament,

:43:13.:43:19.

there he is. At the moment we have a common travel area where people can

:43:20.:43:24.

travel freely between Southland north, north and south, on the

:43:25.:43:33.

island of Ireland. The open border between the north and south is, in

:43:34.:43:39.

terms of trade, as on an immense amount for UK Irish trade and

:43:40.:43:45.

commercial relationships and it is important, although there will be

:43:46.:43:48.

difficult challenges in relation to this, that we safeguard as much of

:43:49.:43:52.

that as possible and minimise potential damage. I explained to the

:43:53.:43:59.

EBP that I think whatever disagreements I have with the

:44:00.:44:03.

British government over Brexit or more generally there is a real

:44:04.:44:07.

consensus across the British political system that we must do

:44:08.:44:13.

everything we possibly can to keep the present situation between the

:44:14.:44:18.

Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland, south and north, as similar

:44:19.:44:24.

to what we have at the moment as we possibly can, and do all we can to

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minimise any potential disruption. This is of vital importance for the

:44:30.:44:32.

economic relationships and the political relationships. It was

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enormously beneficial to be able to talk to the EPP and speak to them

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about that and broader questions about Europe. I know from what was

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said yesterday, what Michel Barnier said yesterday as well, and in a

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sense my presence here today is to say, I think there is a really

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common desire, whatever other issues there are in relation to Brexit, to

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make Northern Ireland a special case and make sure we do everything we

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possibly can to protect the Good Friday Agreement and the peace

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process and protect the strong relationship between the Republic of

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Ireland that the UK going forward. Thank you.

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But Tony Blair speaking at a meeting in Ireland to a gathering of

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pro-European politicians from across Europe. He was interviewed this

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morning on Morning Ireland. He was asked about the leadership of the

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Labour Party. He said it would be best for him to keep a diplomatic

:45:43.:45:44.

silence for the time being. It's that time of the year again,

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and tomorrow night Ukraine's capital Kiev will play host to the 63rd

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Eurovision final. It's 20 years since we last

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won, so what are our Last year Ukraine snatched victory

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at the last moment with a song by Jamala about Crimean ethnic

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cleansing under Josef Stalin. The UK's entry "You're not Alone"

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by Joe and Jake came a pretty disappointing 24th out of 26

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countries Former X Factor contestant Lucie Jones

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is our hopeful for this year. Here's a taster of her song

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"Never Give Up On You". # Together we're dancing

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through this storm She has her work cut out. This is

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the first Eurovision since we voted out of Brexit. Even the Prime

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Minister is concerned. I am sure you are behind Eurovision. We're not

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leaving that, as well, are we? No. CHUCKLES

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Although in current circumstances I'm not sure how many votes we will

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get. It'll be very interesting indeed.

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Let's talk now to four superfans all in Kiev for the final.

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William Lee Adams runs one of the most popular Eurovision fan

:47:57.:47:58.

sites and is hosting parties across Europe to celebrate

:47:59.:48:00.

Alasdair Rendall is head of OAGE International -

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Lisa Jayne Lewis is a Eurovision expert out in Kiev, who says

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she's been "married" to the competition since 1993.

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Samantha Ross, is an American superfan who is working in the press

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Lisa Jane, you've been married to the competition for a very long

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time. Why are you such a fan and what does it take to win it? What I

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say about that statement, I feel like I'm that Eurovision in 1991. We

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fell in love in 1992. In 1993, since then I've been connected to the

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contest. What does it take to win? Some of the entries, you could

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describe them as surreal, some of the winners are, I guess,

:48:56.:49:00.

interesting. What is it? What is the X Factor for a winner in Eurovision?

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It is a combination of things. It is not just a case of coming with a

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really good song, or coming with a really good back story, maybe if you

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are an artist, or staging or styling. You have to get everything.

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You have to get all of the planets align. That is what makes a winner

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at Eurovision. It is impossible to say what that thing is. Because it

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shifts every year. Who knows? All of the planets have to ally. It is a

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big deal. Alistair, can Lucie do it? We got the best song we've sent in

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many years. All of the elements are there. It is the 60th song, the 20th

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anniversary since we last. The first time in many years we have the

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magical package Lucy Jane was alluding to. We have a great

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performance. It is a TV shows you that standout performance. She

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delivers every time. She has been doing fantastic at rehearsals. Good

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chance last -- good chance this year, much better than

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you joined the fan club when you attend. You have been watching for a

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long time. How does she compare to previous entries? It is our best

:50:20.:50:27.

song since 2009. It is a strong song, strong performance. It is a

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world away from the Eurovision cliches. It is a contemporary sound.

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That is what we need. William Lee, you will be vlogging, you will be

:50:44.:50:52.

Eurovision, you will be, what do you think? We are really making the most

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of this. My personal favourites are Portugal. They avoid Eurovision

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cliches because there are no explosions, they are singing from

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the heart. When he sings he closes his eyes, the audience is with him

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all the way. Samantha, you are American but a Eurovision super fan,

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how did that happen? I basically started as just familiar with the

:51:23.:51:27.

words Eurovision Song contest growing up in a household that

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watched a lot of Monty Python programmes. Every single spring all

:51:31.:51:36.

of my European friends at university would start talking about who has

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the better song. I started watching one year. I ended up surpassing them

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with my fandom for it. I started a personal website. And in 2010I

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attended it for the first time. Now I am on a delegation for it, so

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dreams can come true. Lisa Jane, are you worried about the impact of

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Brexit on voting? Not at all. It'll have absolutely no effect whatsoever

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on any of the votes coming to the UK. What Alistair said, this is the

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strongest overall package the UK have brought this year. That is what

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people will see that is what people will vote on. How can you be so

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sure? Everybody says voting gets political. That is a misnomer. It is

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an political voting, it is more cultural voting. You get groups of

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countries who vote for each other. That is because the singers who are

:52:32.:52:35.

famous in, say Denmark, are likely to be famous in Sweden and Norway.

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Scandinavian countries. A singer famous in Serbia is likely to be

:52:41.:52:44.

famous in Croatia, Monty Negra, as well. It isn't so much political

:52:45.:52:48.

voting as the British country have been led to believe, it is more of a

:52:49.:52:55.

shared culture and shared music industry, though. -- a singer famous

:52:56.:52:58.

in Serbia is likely to be famous in Croatia and Montenegro. What do you

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Brexit will not be on your mind. People will be voting for the song

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they like the most. -- what do you think, Alistair?

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Some people who may vote in a Brexit way to make a point. But the vast

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majority of people will be voting for their favourite song. We have a

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democratic process of choosing our Eurovision entry. How does it work

:53:27.:53:31.

elsewhere? It varies from country to country.

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INAUDIBLE I'm struggling to hear you.

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I will go back to Samantha. Samantha, you said you were part of

:53:57.:53:59.

a delegation, you are with the Bulgarian entry. We haven't heard

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it. Tell us about your entry and what your hopes are. We are

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incredibly proud of our song. Kristian, 17 years old, he was born

:54:10.:54:16.

after the start of the year 2000, wonderful landmark. The song is a

:54:17.:54:24.

modern ballad with a influence about bringing the world together and

:54:25.:54:28.

accomplishing goals through unity. A Eurovision message with an

:54:29.:54:31.

exceptional singer. We are so proud of him. Seeing our name pulled out

:54:32.:54:35.

of the envelope last night was a massive thrill for the entire

:54:36.:54:38.

delegation. I might be biased, but go bog area. Samantha, a final

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point. -- but go It takes up a lot of time. It is a

:54:44.:55:03.

massive Saturday night. For most people. I report on the contest year

:55:04.:55:07.

round. I follow the national selection. There is the junior

:55:08.:55:12.

contest in Georgia which I will be going to. There is lots going on.

:55:13.:55:17.

I'm fortunate to be able to turn it into a part-time job, which is

:55:18.:55:21.

wonderful. If you enjoy your job you will never work a day in your life,

:55:22.:55:29.

they say. Absolutely. Enjoy it tomorrow. Thank you very much. We

:55:30.:55:33.

will be in Bedfordshire on the 29th of May for a big election audience

:55:34.:55:37.

debate. If you have already made up your mind on who you will vote for,

:55:38.:55:41.

you are still decide to come all you do not think you will bother, if you

:55:42.:55:45.

would like the opportunity to grill senior politicians on their policies

:55:46.:55:48.

do get in touch to apply for a place.

:55:49.:55:56.

We have some breaking news. The coroner has said a 14-year-old boy

:55:57.:56:01.

died as a result of an allergic reaction to a school lunch. He was

:56:02.:56:05.

being kept back after school when he collapsed. Our correspondent has

:56:06.:56:11.

been at the inquest and has the latest. What happened, Richard? Very

:56:12.:56:15.

sad story. This happened last November. 14-year-old, at a school

:56:16.:56:21.

in east London, he collapsed a couple of hours after having a

:56:22.:56:25.

school lunch. He had a wide range of food allergies. He was also severely

:56:26.:56:30.

asthmatic. When he collapsed he said to the staff he was unable to

:56:31.:56:36.

breathe. They eventually got the medical pack which he had at school,

:56:37.:56:40.

which contained items which should help him in case of an emergency

:56:41.:56:44.

such as this. The coroner found staff didn't really know about his

:56:45.:56:49.

condition. And also that the school nurse had incorrectly listed his

:56:50.:56:55.

condition as mild to moderate when in fact it was severe. The fact that

:56:56.:57:00.

condition had been listed in the way it was meant there was no record is

:57:01.:57:05.

made of the use of an adrenaline shot which was in his first aid kit.

:57:06.:57:10.

When staff got the first aid pack they did not know how to use the

:57:11.:57:13.

adrenaline shot, whether it should be used, they asked for advice from

:57:14.:57:18.

paramedics who also suggested it shouldn't be used just yet. Five

:57:19.:57:21.

minutes later when the paramedics arrived, it still had not been used,

:57:22.:57:27.

four days after that he died of what was listed as a hypoxic brain

:57:28.:57:31.

injury. The coroner made clear this was down to the allergic reaction he

:57:32.:57:35.

suffered from food and the lack of treatment he had after that. Thank

:57:36.:57:43.

you very much. If you want to see the Caitlyn Jenner interview again

:57:44.:57:46.

it is on the programme page. Fascinating to talk to her. She has

:57:47.:57:51.

written a book about transitioning in her 60s, about the struggles

:57:52.:57:55.

through her life, the secrets she kept, but now in her 60s she is

:57:56.:57:59.

completely open with those around her. She talks about the journey,

:58:00.:58:05.

with the comedy aspects of it, as well, that she talks openly about.

:58:06.:58:10.

She wanted to bring the humour through in the way she talks about

:58:11.:58:14.

her life. Great to have her on the show today. Thank you for your

:58:15.:58:18.

company. Enjoy your weekend. Newsroom live is coming up next. I

:58:19.:58:20.

will see you soon. Goodbye.

:58:21.:58:23.

Former Olympic gold medal winner and reality TV star Caitlyn Jenner talks to Joanna Gosling about life after her transition to living as a woman.

We talk about the worrying increase in the number of weapons being brought into schools by children.

And Joanna meets the super-fans in a look ahead to the Eurovision Song Contest.