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15/05/2017

Leader of Plaid Cymru Leanne Wood goes on the road with Victoria in the first of our Vic's Van Share series. And nurses talk about what they want politicians to do for the NHS.


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Hello, it's Monday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

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Our top story today - the NHS is expecting further

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problems this morning when thousands of staff log on for

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the first time since the discovery of a ransomware virus on Friday.

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It comes amid warnings further hacks could happen today.

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This bug will be sitting in systems over the weekend and when people

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arrive for work on Monday morning and turn on their computer, I think

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we will see the numbers going up again.

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If you've been affected - do get in touch with us this morning.

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Also on the programme - Theresa May promises the biggest

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expansion of workers' rights by any Conservative Government -

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if her party wins the general election.

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Theresa May and the Conservative Party have the opportunity to reach

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out to parts of the electorate who would never have dreamed of voting

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Conservative. This worker 's rights plan is a great idea. When it comes

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to workers' rights, you simply cannot trust the Tories. This is

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simply empty rhetoric. More reaction throughout

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the programme. Plus - Plaid Cyrmru leader

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Leanne Wood tells this programme for the first time she's

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going through the menopause # You and I know it's all over the

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front page, you give me road rage... There are macro it's up to you, boy,

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you're driving me crazy, thinking you may be losing my mind...

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And the award goes to... The Queen 's 90th birthday. The BAFTA goes to

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the magnificent Sarah Lancashire. The BAFTA fellowship this year is

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awarded to Joanna Lumley CHEERING Hello, welcome to the programme,

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we're live until 11 this morning. I say we are alive but I do not feel

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very live having had two hours sleep.

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Thank you s much for all your absolutely lovely

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messages following this - a Bafta award for best news coverage

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- which we won last night - which is for the way we reported

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And this award really is for Andy Woodward, Steve Walters,

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Chris Unsworth and Jason Dunford who spoke to us

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We are very grateful to you and very proud.

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Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning -

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use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and if you text, you will be charged

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The computer virus which first hit the health service on Friday

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is still causing serious problems at seven NHS organisations -

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Officials fear that further problems could emerge this morning when staff

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return to work and switch on terminals and equipment

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Our correspondent Richard Galpin reports.

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The computer virus which first hit the Health Service on Friday

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is still causing serious problems at seven hospitals and other NHS

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Particularly the ability to diagnose medical conditions.

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The images from MRI and CT scanning machines, as well as X-rays,

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can no longer be sent via computer to operating theatres.

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But the other big worry this morning is what'll

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happen when medical staff, especially at GP surgeries,

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return to work and switch on their computers

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Organisations that were affected on Friday and over the weekend

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might find that some of the problems have spread.

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That's not to say that the attacks are new.

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It's a repercussion of what happened on Friday.

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This map shows how the malicious software has

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There are now 200,000 victims, including large businesses

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and organisations, in more than 150 countries.

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Microsoft, whose popular computer operating systems

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were the target of the attack, has warned governments,

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what's happened is a wake-up call, particularly for those governments

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deliberately keeping quiet about software vulnerabilities

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so they can exploit these themselves.

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We can go live to Andy Moore who is outside hospital in East London. How

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will they cope this morning? It could be quite a challenge. Here at

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this hospital there are handwritten notes at A saying there is an IT

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failure and there could be serious delays. This is the biggest NHS

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Trust in the camp -- country. They have tried to reduce the number of

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procedures and outpatient appointments being carried out here

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today but they have warned some patients they may turn up here today

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to find out they cannot be helped. This is a situation which has been

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reflected at several other hospitals and GP surgeries around the country.

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We are not quite sure of the extent of the problem. The NHS said last

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night that Severn Trent were acquiring extra support but there

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may be other trusts still having problems. -- seven trusts were

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requiring extra support. Have trusts backed up information as they was

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opposed to? I asked this hospital and they said they have not got that

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information. Also, if you have not got a back-up power to get the vital

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information back again? And then there is a question about whether

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you actually pay the ransom. The guidance from the head of NHS

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security digital saved as a matter for the victim of whether to pay or

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not but NHS Digital and the NCA encourages the public not to pay.

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The advice is try not to but they are not saying explicitly don't.

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There is a president in the states last year. Hollywood hospital in

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California admitted they had to pay thousands of dollars in ransom after

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trying to successfully restore their systems. The question is whether the

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NHS in some circumstances might have to pay up. Having said that, the

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vast majority of the NHS is working as normal today. Patients have been

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told to turn up as normal today unless they have been told otherwise

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but it might be worth checking the local NHS website. Thank you, Andy.

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Joanna is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

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North Korea says the missile it tested successfully on Sunday

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was a new type of rocket capable of carrying a nuclear warhead.

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This footage which has just been released by North Korean state TV

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shows the launch which took place over the weekend.

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The United States says it would be prepared to impose more sanctions

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on the country if it continues to test ballistic missiles.

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The North Korean news agency said leader Kim Jong-Un personally

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Theresa May will today promise the biggest expansion of workers'

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rights of any Conservative administration - if her party wins

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The Prime Minister will outline a series of pledges including worker

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representation on company boards and the legal right to take leave

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Labour has dismissed the plans saying Mrs May is

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Labour says they will spend an extra ?37 billion on the NHS in England

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over the next five years - if they win power.

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The party's "new deal" for the health service includes

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a pledge to take a million people off waiting lists and to upgrade

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IT systems following the cyber-attack on the NHS.

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The Conservatives said they were already increasing health funding.

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Workers in the public sector will receive an average

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pay rise of nearly ?780 if the Liberal Democrats win

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The party is pledging to abolish a cap which has seen pay rises

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for nurses and teachers limited to one percent since 2012.

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Labour's manifesto is also expected to include a promise to get rid

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of the cap but the Conservatives say it is needed to help

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President Trump has been urged to hand over any recordings

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of conversations between him and sacked FBI director

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Senior opposition politicians continue to pressure the president

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over allegations Russia meddled in last year's election.

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They warn destroying any tapes - if they exist -

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The new French President, Emmanuel Macron, is expected

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to name his Prime Minister today - on his first full day in office.

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Mr Macron, who was inaugurated as the country's youngest

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president yesterday, will also travel to Germany

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today for talks with Chancellor Angela Merkel.

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A father has died after falling while walking with his daughter

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Rescue workers say the man, who's believed to be

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from the south of England, slipped on Tryfan in Snowdonia.

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He was airlifted to hospital where he was pronounced dead.

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The Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson has played down calls the European

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Union could pay a Brexit bill to Britain rather than the other way

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round. In a newspaper interview he said the EU could pay UK after

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Brexit but speaking this morning, the Foreign Secretary said Brexit

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bills are not on the agenda for today's meeting. Nothing is agreed

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until everything is agreed. You have to look at the money, the whole

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thing, the free trade arrangements and everything as a package.

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A company has apologised to a graduate jobseeker

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for calling her a "home educated oddball" in comments accidentally

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Anna Jacobs, from Kent, had applied for a position

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at Tonbridge-based Tecomak Environmental Services.

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But alongside the company's response were comments suggesting

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she was "worth an interview if only for a laugh".

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That's basically like saying, it's going to be a huge waste

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of time but let's just do it for a laugh,

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let's just make up the numbers, sort of thing.

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You know, I believe I've got a lot to offer, and if that's

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all I am to an employer, then please don't invite me

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The leader of the Welsh nationalist party Plaid Cymru,

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Leanne Wood, has revealed to the Victoria Derbyshire

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programme that she has gone through the menopause.

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She also told the programme she felt she did not know

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the real Theresa May, saying the prime minister was

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The Plaid leader also admitted to experimenting

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But when I was younger and a student, I tried a few things.

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I would rather not go into the details of the personal

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The full interview is in a few minutes.

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Joanna Lumley received Bafta's highest honour -

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the fellowship at the Bafta television awards

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The gritty BBC One police drama Happy Valley came

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away with two awards - best drama and best actress

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Damilola, Our Loved Boy was another big winner,

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picking up best single drama and best supporting actress,

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while Planet Earth II's infamous snakes chasing a baby iguana won

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When they played the clip and the iguana eventually escapes, the whole

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room burst into applause and cheered. It was an incredible night.

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We did not expect to win. Victoria Derbyshire, footballers' abuse. If

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you come out with accusations, would anyone believe you?

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Let's get some sport with Hugh Ferris.

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Hugh there were real highs and lows in the Premier league yesterday -

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let's start with the lows and Hull City have been relegated.

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Yes, after nine months or so, it is amazing how quickly everything

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happens in the final moments of the season. Hull join Middlesbrough and

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Sunderland in the Championship. When Marco Silver arrived as the manager

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in January, he managed to fix their away form but not the -- he fixed

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their home form but not the away form. Their result means palace and

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Swansea managed to stay up, Hull are down. Liverpool managed to win at

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West Ham by the same scoreline 4-0. They are up to third. They will

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qualify definitely for the Champions League. Philippe Coutinho scored two

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goals at the London Stadium. Manchester United lost 2-1 at Spurs.

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They will have to win the Europa League instead after their defeat in

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what was the final match at White Hart Lane. A fitting send off for

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Spurs who got the winner in that match through Harry Kane. And then

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queue hours of celebrations, first in the rain and then under a

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rainbow. They won the last 14 in a row in the Premier League.

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Apparently both Chas and Dave were there to say goodbye to a ground

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which they have called home for 118 years. They are only moving 100

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yards away. You can see the cranes in the background building the new

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ground. And hopes of a first British winner

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of cycling's to read Italia was over after a crash on the ninth stage?

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Giro D'Italia. Jared Thomas -- Geraint Thomas was involved in a

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crash. A police motorbike got in the way causing a number of riders to go

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down, Thomas Yates among them. He hurt his right shoulder and needed a

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couple of minutes to get back on his bike. Both those riders are now a

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long way behind the leader. It is not necessarily who goes the

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fastest, it is the person who stays out of trouble who goes on to win

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one of those grand Tours. Thank you.

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This morning, the leader of Plaid Cymru, the Welsh

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nationalist party, reveals that she has taken

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illegal drugs and is going through the menopause.

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Leanne Wood also says she's expecting a Conservative landslide

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in the forthcoming general election, but even though she criticises

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Labour in Wales, she doesn't rule out her party working with Labour

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She's been speaking to us as part of our "van share" series.

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Over the next few weeks I'll be driving various politicians around

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I take this drug called Tamoxifen because I had breast cancer and it

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gives you hot flushes and it's a total pain.

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You're not having the menopause are you, you are younger than me.

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The irony, we are going to whizz out of here and get stuck in traffic

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It's good now there's only one election to deal with.

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So the local elections have gone, that's something

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Yes, it was tricky dealing with two, that was a new one for me.

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I had a bad experience before. So one is easier.

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And how do you think you're going to do?

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Since the referendum, the decision to leave the European Union,

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our voice has almost gone unheard, and we have been neglected,

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so this is an opportunity for us to have a strong voice

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Last time, 2015, you returned three MPs to Westminster that your vote

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flat lined pretty much, went up a tiny bit, 0.9%.

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If that happens this time, do you think it will be you'll

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No, because when I became the leader of Plaid Cymru five years ago,

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it was on the basis of a long-term project.

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But if you don't improve your performance having been this time

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in the general election been leader for five years, surely it's time

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Well, I've got a long-term project to see out and I

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It'll take quite a long time I think to get Wales

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into the position whereby we can talk about having a referendum

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Why do you think Plaid Cymru hasn't replicated the success of the SNP

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Well, we're a different country, different parties

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and we're at different stages on the journey towards our

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One of the big differences obviously between Wales and Scotland

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is the majority of people in Scotland voted to remain

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Why do you think the majority in Wales voted to leave the EU?

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People voted for all kinds of different reasons.

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A number of people that I've spoken to in the Valleys in the south,

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for example, feel left behind, feel ignored, feel as though

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politicians are making plenty of money and living quite nice lives

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Do you think part of it was to do with immigration?

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Some of it was to do with immigration.

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To end the freedom of movement of people?

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Yes, I'm sure some people would have wanted to do that,

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despite the fact that that would be fraught with difficulties of course,

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because everybody's agreed that we don't want a hard border

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between Northern Ireland and the republic.

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So ending free movement would be very, very difficult if we continued

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What do you think is the difference between you -

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What is the difference between you wanting independence

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for Wales and the British people wanting independence

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Well, for me, Wales standing on its own two feet and being

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Continue straight on to Regent Street.

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So at the moment, we don't get a say on so many of the policy areas

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and decisions that are taken that affect Wales.

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It's just what the people voted to leave the European Union said

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isn't it - we want to make our own decisions?

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Well, I can appreciate the sentiment and, you know,

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to be able to take decisions closer to home is something that I support.

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But even if Wales were to be independent and if Scotland

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were to be independent too, there would still be some decisions

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we'd need to make collectively across what is currently the British

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state and even across the European Union and the world.

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It makes sense for countries to cooperate really wherever

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they are and whichever units of cooperation we are talking about.

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Would Plaid Cymru go into coalition with your political rivals, Labour?

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I wouldn't rule anything out because what I want to do is stop

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the Tories wreaking havoc of Wales, but...

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So would you accept seats in a Jeremy Corbyn Cabinet?

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Well, I don't think it's helpful to talk in those terms.

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Well, tell me in a minute. Just answer that.

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Would you accept seats in a Jeremy Corbyn Cabinet?

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I wouldn't rule it out, but I don't think we're going

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I believe and all the polls and results show from last week that

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there's going to be a Tory landslide in England.

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I can't see, given the splits that are in the Labour Party and how

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so many Labour MPs are keen to stab their leader in the back,

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I can't see how people are going to vote for a party

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The question for us is what happens in Wales.

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We can either vote for a majority of Labour MPs,

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like we've done for the last, I don't know, 100 years,

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and continue to be ignored, or we can do something different.

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And if we vote for Plaid Cymru MPs this time, we can make sure that

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What kind of sexist behaviour have you come across in politics?

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Well, it ranges from just the sort of casual sexist comment

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Well, being asked for example by a journalist how I juggle my time

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between being a mother and a politician.

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The kind of question that rarely would be if ever asked to a man.

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I've had quite a lot of misogynistic abuse on Twitter and Facebook.

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I've had to report some to the police.

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Somebody's even gone to prison for threatening

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Do you have, in your house, girl jobs and boy jobs?

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You mix it up? Who puts the bins out?

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Well, my partner does most of the housework

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OK. What do you think of Theresa May?

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I get the feeling I don't know what she is.

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I get the feeling that what we see is a very carefully presented person

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who is trying to appear in a certain way but I don't get the sense

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No evidence has come by way that would convince me that God exists.

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I'm asking you this because the leader of the Liberal Democrats

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was irritated that no other political leaders got asked this.

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OK, I've got some quick fire questions for you

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because we are making good progross in terms of our journey.

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A long time ago, you know, but when I was younger and a student

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I'd rather not go into the details of the personal

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side of things, but yes, I have.

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So in that sense, you have broken the law in the past?

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# You should be making it easy on yourself.

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# You and I know it's all over the front-page,

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When I told my daughter I was doing a car interview, she said,

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"Are you going to do a karaoke, mum?"

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Quick fire, finish off this sentence for me.

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A land of poets and minstrels, famed men.

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Can you name the 58-letter secret password from

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the Jane Fonda film, Barbarella?

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That's not Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndro-

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That's right! Do you know who invented that?

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I can't remember his name. Robert...

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I looked at what you promised in the Welsh Assembly

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Students in Wales who stayed and worked in Wales

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after they graduated due to pay off, write off some of their debts,

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?6,000 a year up to a maximum of ?18,000 which I think you said

:26:15.:26:17.

would cost ?48 million in a year, but if you have a look at how many

:26:18.:26:21.

students there are in Wales at the moment, 104,000,

:26:22.:26:23.

even if half just stayed in Wales, you'd be spending ?300

:26:24.:26:26.

Is that going to be in your manifesto?

:26:27.:26:32.

So we're still in favour of the principle of tying

:26:33.:26:34.

It doesn't sound like it's going to be in there, does it?

:26:35.:26:40.

In principle we want to see free tuition, but under

:26:41.:26:46.

the existing Assembly budget, that's not possible to deliver.

:26:47.:26:50.

So we're looking at what's possible within the existing budget to try

:26:51.:26:53.

and enable as many students from the poorest backgrounds to go

:26:54.:26:56.

to university and get some return on their investment back

:26:57.:26:58.

OK. Thank you.

:26:59.:27:04.

Thank you so much, thank you for being very honest and frank.

:27:05.:27:07.

And over the next few weeks we'll be driving

:27:08.:27:17.

round politicians from various other political parties.

:27:18.:27:20.

And we're going to be in Bedfordshire on Monday, 29th May

:27:21.:27:23.

If you've made up your mind already who you're going to vote for,

:27:24.:27:29.

still deciding or don't think you'll bother and would like the chance

:27:30.:27:35.

to share your views and grill senior politicians on their policies,

:27:36.:27:38.

More details on our Facebook and Twitter pages.

:27:39.:27:48.

Warnings of further problems in the NHS computer systems. Chelsea

:27:49.:27:58.

Manning the former intelligence analyst is due it leave prison this

:27:59.:28:04.

week after serving seven years of a 35 year sentence for leaking

:28:05.:28:07.

hundreds of thousands of classified American Government documentsful we

:28:08.:28:10.

will bring you an exclusive interview with her lawyer before

:28:11.:28:11.

10am. Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom

:28:12.:28:14.

with a summary of today's news. The Health Secretary will chair a

:28:15.:28:23.

COBRA meeting on cyber security later this morning as the computer

:28:24.:28:27.

virus which hit the Health Service on Friday is reportedly still

:28:28.:28:31.

causing serious problems at a number of NHS organisations including

:28:32.:28:35.

hospitals in England. Some hospitals have chanceled appointments and MI R

:28:36.:28:39.

scans. Officials fear further problems could emerge this morning

:28:40.:28:42.

when staff return to work and switch on terminals and machines.

:28:43.:28:48.

North Korea says the missile it tested successfully on Sunday

:28:49.:28:50.

was a new type of rocket capable of carrying a nuclear warhead.

:28:51.:28:55.

This footage which has just been released by North Korean state TV

:28:56.:28:58.

shows the launch which took place over the weekend.

:28:59.:29:00.

The United States says it would be prepared to impose more sanctions

:29:01.:29:03.

on the country if it continues to test ballistic missiles.

:29:04.:29:05.

The North Korean news agency said leader Kim Jong-Un personally

:29:06.:29:08.

Theresa May will today promise the biggest expansion of workers'

:29:09.:29:17.

rights of any Conservative administration if her party wins

:29:18.:29:19.

The Prime Minister will outline a series of pledges including worker

:29:20.:29:23.

representation on company boards and the legal right to take leave

:29:24.:29:26.

Labour has dismissed the plans saying Mrs May is

:29:27.:29:30.

Labour say they will spend an extra ?37 billion on the NHS in England

:29:31.:29:39.

over the next five years if they win power.

:29:40.:29:47.

The party's "new deal" for the Health Service includes

:29:48.:29:50.

a pledge to take a million people off waiting lists and to upgrade

:29:51.:29:53.

IT systems following the cyber-attack on the NHS.

:29:54.:29:54.

The Conservatives said they were already increasing health funding.

:29:55.:30:00.

Throughout the election campaign we'll be taking an in depth look

:30:01.:30:03.

at the key issues that are important to you.

:30:04.:30:05.

Today we're focussing on the economy and we'll be

:30:06.:30:07.

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:30:08.:30:09.

You can get in touch via Twitter using the hashtag BBC Ask This

:30:10.:30:15.

or text your questions to 61124 and you can email us as well

:30:16.:30:19.

A father has died after falling while walking with his daughter

:30:20.:30:25.

Rescue workers say the man, who's believed to be

:30:26.:30:28.

from the south of England, slipped on Tryfan in Snowdonia.

:30:29.:30:30.

He was airlifted to hospital where he was pronounced dead.

:30:31.:30:36.

President Trump has been urged to hand over any recordings

:30:37.:30:39.

of conversations between him and sacked FBI director

:30:40.:30:42.

Senior opposition politicians continue to pressure the president

:30:43.:30:46.

over allegations Russia meddled in last year's election.

:30:47.:30:48.

They warn destroying any tapes - if they exist -

:30:49.:30:50.

The new French President, Emmanuel Macron, is expected

:30:51.:30:58.

to name his Prime Minister today - on his first full day in office.

:30:59.:31:01.

Mr Macron, who was inaugurated as the country's youngest

:31:02.:31:03.

president yesterday, will also travel to Germany

:31:04.:31:05.

today for talks with Chancellor Angela Merkel.

:31:06.:31:20.

A 101-year-old war veteran has become the oldest person to complete

:31:21.:31:29.

a skydive. Verdun Hayes beats the previous record set by a man 35 days

:31:30.:31:33.

younger. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:31:34.:31:34.

News - more at 10.00. A quote from Matt, howling at your

:31:35.:31:44.

programme as you sing while driving around. Best bit of TV I have seen

:31:45.:31:49.

in a while. You are clearly easy easily pleased.

:31:50.:31:53.

Now the sport. Just a week left to go

:31:54.:31:56.

of the Premier League season and almost everything

:31:57.:31:59.

has been sorted. For Hull it's relegation after just

:32:00.:32:00.

a year in the top flight. They join Middlesbrough

:32:01.:32:03.

and Sunderland in going down after their 4-0 defeat

:32:04.:32:05.

at Crystal Palace, who along Spurs ended 118 years

:32:06.:32:07.

at White Hart Lane with a 2-1 win over Manchester United,

:32:08.:32:12.

and then a party, as they head to a new stadium just next door

:32:13.:32:14.

after a year at Wembley Lewis Hamilton pulls off a stunning

:32:15.:32:17.

passing move to beat Ferrari's Sebastian Vettel

:32:18.:32:20.

to the Spanish Grand Prix. The Mercedes driver is now just six

:32:21.:32:22.

points behind his rival And a crash on stage nine derails

:32:23.:32:25.

both Geraint Thomas and Adam Yates' chances of contending

:32:26.:32:29.

at the Giro d'Italia. They slipped from podium places

:32:30.:32:34.

to around five minutes behind Much more later on those are the

:32:35.:32:47.

headlines. Thank you.

:32:48.:32:50.

The NHS is expecting further problems with its computer systems

:32:51.:32:52.

today as thousands of staff log on for the first time

:32:53.:32:55.

since the discovery of a ransomware virus on Friday.

:32:56.:32:57.

Seven NHS organisations in England are still experiencing

:32:58.:32:59.

serious disruption - with hospital staff being forced

:33:00.:33:01.

to take images from X-rays and scans into operating theatres

:33:02.:33:03.

because they can't be sent by computer.

:33:04.:33:06.

There are particular concerns about GP surgeries which have been

:33:07.:33:08.

We can speak to Rob Holmes - he works for the

:33:09.:33:19.

US cyber-security firm Proofpoint - who helped find the kill switch

:33:20.:33:21.

Joseph Cox is a journalist for Motherboard, the tech section

:33:22.:33:24.

of Vice, and last year he uncovered that thousands of NHS computers

:33:25.:33:27.

were running on old, unsupported systems.

:33:28.:33:32.

And here to explain what's been happening is Kris McConkey -

:33:33.:33:35.

who runs the cyber security teams for the company PWC.

:33:36.:33:41.

Hello, everybody. Thank you. Chris, what do we now know the sure about

:33:42.:33:48.

this attack and what do we not know? What we know is this outbreak

:33:49.:33:52.

started on Friday. We started receiving calls from PWC -- at PWC

:33:53.:34:01.

from affected clients around at lunchtime. We have two things which

:34:02.:34:07.

have collided. The first is the actual ransomware threat which does

:34:08.:34:14.

what it says on the files, it holds people to ransom and costs

:34:15.:34:21.

approximately ?250,000 to fix. Most ransomware virus are distributed

:34:22.:34:33.

through opportunistic phising. What has happened in this case is the

:34:34.:34:41.

malware is self propagated. It is looking for vulnerable systems

:34:42.:34:45.

across the Internet. That is what has been happening since Friday. We

:34:46.:34:51.

know it has affected some are close to 100 countries, roughly 2000

:34:52.:34:54.

systems at the moment and we know the attackers have obtained at least

:34:55.:34:58.

?30,000 from people paying the ransom. What we do not know is who

:34:59.:35:07.

is precisely behind it. Rob, the hack was halted on Friday, because

:35:08.:35:14.

of a kill switch. Explain a little bit more about that? Again, it was

:35:15.:35:19.

fairly unique and so far there were embedded into the code was a call to

:35:20.:35:29.

a very seemingly random domain name, the domain name being BBC .com or

:35:30.:35:35.

whatever but this one was particularly obscure. What we

:35:36.:35:39.

discovered in conjunction with the cyber Security industry, what we

:35:40.:35:42.

discovered was this malware was unique insofar as it was making a

:35:43.:35:46.

call to this domain name. If the domain name was not registered, it

:35:47.:35:54.

would then go and execute, the exploit to propagate across the

:35:55.:35:58.

system. If the domain was registered it would actually stop there. So the

:35:59.:36:04.

problem was isolated. We helped to discover there was this kill switch

:36:05.:36:09.

and a gentleman known as malware tech registered that domain and

:36:10.:36:13.

effectively isolated the problem. What would have happened if it had

:36:14.:36:21.

not been located? Then exactly as Kris described, it would have

:36:22.:36:25.

continued to propagate and affected more networks and computers. Joseph,

:36:26.:36:30.

tell us what you uncovered last year and how worried people in the NHS

:36:31.:36:37.

should be? So mid last year, I sent Freedom of Information requests to

:36:38.:36:44.

all of the NHS trusts. 42 said they use Windows XP which is clearly an

:36:45.:36:49.

ancient operating system and many of those trusts also said that they do

:36:50.:36:53.

not receive or pay for security updates. That is not to say Windows

:36:54.:36:57.

XP was the reason this ransomware was so effective. There is still a

:36:58.:37:04.

lot of stuff which is unclear, but it is certainly indicative of the

:37:05.:37:09.

cyber security stance of a lot of NHS trusts, running outdated and

:37:10.:37:13.

secure software which leaves them totally open to attack. And from

:37:14.:37:17.

today will leave them open to attack and tomorrow and Wednesday and so on

:37:18.:37:21.

and so forth, until they spend a lot of money on updating their systems,

:37:22.:37:27.

presumably? Microsoft released a patch in March but that was only for

:37:28.:37:32.

operating systems eight etc. Microsoft has taken a really unusual

:37:33.:37:37.

step of publishing a patch for Windows XP and older versions as

:37:38.:37:41.

well. It is there, the NHS can go and get that patch right now, but it

:37:42.:37:45.

depends on whether they have done it or not. There are warnings that this

:37:46.:37:51.

virus could start spreading again today. Is that possible? I think

:37:52.:37:58.

that's highly likely. There will be a lot of people returning to work

:37:59.:38:04.

today who have not had the patches and whenever those systems come back

:38:05.:38:08.

online this morning there will probably be another wave of those

:38:09.:38:12.

reinfection is, particularly amongst corporate networks until all of

:38:13.:38:15.

their systems have the right patch is rolled out. I think it is

:38:16.:38:22.

inevitable. I think it is already happening. I think we are seeing new

:38:23.:38:28.

versions of the ransomware without the kill switch. People should be

:38:29.:38:33.

cautious about not only protecting themselves against those attacks but

:38:34.:38:36.

also making sure they don't fall foul of the secondary crime which is

:38:37.:38:41.

people selling defence against the attack which is already happening.

:38:42.:38:46.

Why would that be a crime? Because they are selling something which

:38:47.:38:51.

does not do what it really does. I think companies need to

:38:52.:38:53.

differentiate between something which has a bone of ID solution to

:38:54.:38:58.

the problem and somebody who is just selling vapourware. -- bona fides

:38:59.:39:05.

solution. How surprised where you, Joseph, when you found parts of the

:39:06.:39:10.

NHS were using those old systems? Not surprised at all, unfortunately.

:39:11.:39:17.

We have done similar investigations around police forces, particularly

:39:18.:39:21.

the Metropolitan Police and other government institutions. More

:39:22.:39:24.

broadly, plenty of government departments do use outdated software

:39:25.:39:29.

and systems, so unfortunately, not surprised that still the urgency

:39:30.:39:32.

that needs to be dealt with came across. And in terms of advice to

:39:33.:39:40.

companies to protect themselves, what would you say today, Chris?

:39:41.:39:47.

Let's start with advice about what they should not be doing. First of

:39:48.:39:51.

all, do not pay the ransom. Unless there is a threat to life then

:39:52.:39:57.

payment funds the ransomware colony. Microsoft has released patches to

:39:58.:40:01.

this which should be applied as an absolute priority, including taking

:40:02.:40:04.

the very unusual step of releasing patches for Windows XP. An secondary

:40:05.:40:09.

to that, there are some relatively straightforward and effective fixes

:40:10.:40:14.

about disabling outdated protocols on IT networks which are being

:40:15.:40:18.

exploited by this malware. In addition I would say we need to

:40:19.:40:22.

raise our general awareness of this. My mum and dad are now asking me

:40:23.:40:28.

what ransomware is. That is a good thing. It is, but I think people

:40:29.:40:34.

should exercise caution. We are not clear where the original infection

:40:35.:40:38.

took place or how it took place, but we do know that by and large

:40:39.:40:41.

ransomware is very much propagated by e-mail, so be cautious about

:40:42.:40:46.

opening that attachment from that individual who you are not sure who

:40:47.:40:50.

they are. Do you think we will find out who is behind this? Hearing it

:40:51.:40:56.

is not a nation state, that do you think we will find out? I think the

:40:57.:41:00.

one thing we can say with absolute certainty as events like this will

:41:01.:41:06.

do more than a lot of things to encourage very good collaboration

:41:07.:41:10.

internationally between law enforcement and intelligence

:41:11.:41:13.

agencies. Because people get scared and they need to do something?

:41:14.:41:17.

Whoever is behind this can put themselves on the radar now and they

:41:18.:41:22.

should expect to be hunted down. I would add to that. This is not just

:41:23.:41:27.

about the Metropolitan Police or the National Crime Agency, when you are

:41:28.:41:33.

affecting hospitals and Internet providers on a global scale, this is

:41:34.:41:36.

when intelligence agencies come in and whoever is behind the attack

:41:37.:41:40.

will be seriously hunted by these agencies. Seriously hunted, yes, of

:41:41.:41:46.

course, but will they find who is behind it? There are significant

:41:47.:41:51.

challenges. One is piecing together the friends that information that

:41:52.:41:55.

would trace it back to an IP address, but there are various

:41:56.:41:58.

mechanisms which the cyber criminal employed to hide their identity,

:41:59.:42:05.

including making the call to the command and control server that is

:42:06.:42:11.

the nerve centre of the attack. That is caught by a highly encrypted

:42:12.:42:15.

mechanism. There are things which will make it very difficult but

:42:16.:42:18.

there will be some pretty smart people working on this to bring them

:42:19.:42:23.

to justice. Thank you very much, all of you. And for those who want to

:42:24.:42:28.

learn more about protecting their PC, here are some tips.

:42:29.:42:34.

The global cyber attack shows how vulnerable we can be online but here

:42:35.:42:37.

are three things we can do to protect yourself. It can be annoying

:42:38.:42:50.

when your phone and says to install the latest updates but it is

:42:51.:42:54.

important to do that to patch any holes in your operating system.

:42:55.:42:59.

Don't click links an e-mail to not and don't download attachments you

:43:00.:43:04.

are not expecting. We should not say that by now but some people are

:43:05.:43:10.

still doing it. If you are running an old operating system which is no

:43:11.:43:14.

longer supported such as Windows XP, you might be more at risk from

:43:15.:43:17.

security problems, so try and upgrade if you can. There you go.

:43:18.:43:23.

Coming up, we'll have a look at who won what at last night's BAFTAs.

:43:24.:43:27.

Chelsea Manning - the former intelligence analyst is due

:43:28.:43:30.

to leave prison this week - after serving seven years of a 35

:43:31.:43:33.

year sentence for leaking hundreds of thousands of classified

:43:34.:43:35.

The decision to release Chelsea Manning -

:43:36.:43:38.

who was born Bradley - early was made by former US

:43:39.:43:41.

President Barack Obama - annoying the then Republican

:43:42.:43:43.

candidate Donald Trump who described her as "an ungrateful traitor".

:43:44.:43:47.

Our reporter Catrin Nye has been speaking exclusively

:43:48.:43:49.

She's obviously excited, she's nervous.

:43:50.:43:55.

Getting out of prison after a long incarceration is not as easy

:43:56.:44:00.

It will take her some time to adjust.

:44:01.:44:14.

She'll be fine and she's got a lot of resilience and a lot

:44:15.:44:18.

that she wants to do, I'm sure.

:44:19.:44:21.

She will start doing it as soon as she has a little bit of time

:44:22.:44:26.

For those people that might not be familiar

:44:27.:44:33.

with the whole background to this, tell me about Chelsea's time

:44:34.:44:36.

in prison, how long it's been and how difficult it's been?

:44:37.:44:39.

She's been in prison now almost seven years, almost seven years.

:44:40.:44:47.

And almost the first year, about 11 months, she was in solitary

:44:48.:44:52.

confinement at Quantico, which is a marine base in Virginia.

:44:53.:44:58.

It was a very, very difficult time for her and there was no reason

:44:59.:45:02.

As you may recall, the European repertoire on torture

:45:03.:45:07.

said that her conditions amounted to torture.

:45:08.:45:13.

It was right after she was sentenced she announced that she was a woman

:45:14.:45:17.

and then she started the transition process after she sued the Army.

:45:18.:45:28.

Ultimately she was given the transition hormones

:45:29.:45:37.

but they continued to fight about her hairline

:45:38.:45:41.

She was not allowed to grow her hair.

:45:42.:45:50.

So we are very relieved that she's out of prison and can

:45:51.:45:53.

finish her transition without the anxiety of constantly

:45:54.:45:54.

What stage is that transition at now?

:45:55.:45:58.

I don't remember when they started, but she has been receiving hormones

:45:59.:46:08.

and I don't know exactly what happens next but that will be

:46:09.:46:11.

And what about gender reassignment surgery?

:46:12.:46:14.

How she'll do it, what she'll do will be after she gets out.

:46:15.:46:18.

Fortunately she won't have to confront that in prison.

:46:19.:46:23.

Chelsea tried to take her own life in prison.

:46:24.:46:25.

How was that moment for you, as her lawyer?

:46:26.:46:29.

Learning that Chelsea had tried to kill herself was a horrible

:46:30.:46:32.

I mean, that's a moment of fragility that I hope nobody

:46:33.:46:41.

And then, for the prison to punish her because she interfered

:46:42.:46:47.

with the good order of the prison by attempting to kill herself

:46:48.:46:51.

and to punish her by putting her in solitary confinement

:46:52.:46:53.

where she tried again to kill herself was just outrageous.

:46:54.:47:01.

I can't think of anything work that the prison could have done

:47:02.:47:04.

to someone who was already showing tremendous depressional anxiety.

:47:05.:47:10.

It took President Obama until three days before he left

:47:11.:47:12.

Difficult pardons often come at the very end

:47:13.:47:22.

I think he had to think long and hard about it.

:47:23.:47:31.

We are very glad that he did. I think it touched the President.

:47:32.:47:35.

I think he realised how difficult her time had been.

:47:36.:47:38.

The other thing the President realised was that her sentence

:47:39.:47:40.

There's no whistleblower in American history who's been

:47:41.:47:46.

sentenced to anywhere near as long as Chelsea.

:47:47.:47:48.

I'm thrilled and really overjoyed that President Obama

:47:49.:47:50.

He is the first person in the military who actually took

:47:51.:47:57.

care of this soldier and it's been something that I've said since

:47:58.:48:01.

the beginning of this case that, the military in this country prides

:48:02.:48:04.

itself on taking care of its soldiers.

:48:05.:48:10.

They always say, we take care of our service members.

:48:11.:48:13.

Nobody ever took care of Chelsea when she was in the military

:48:14.:48:16.

until her Commander in Chief finally took care of her.

:48:17.:48:21.

That moment for me was incredible when he received the phone call.

:48:22.:48:27.

I screamed. I ran down the hall to find Vince.

:48:28.:48:29.

You know, it was an incredible moment.

:48:30.:48:37.

We didn't know until we actually heard from the President himself

:48:38.:48:44.

through his counsel that he'd commuted the sentence

:48:45.:48:46.

and it was literally two minutes before he went on television

:48:47.:48:51.

As soon as I got off the phone, it was all over the news.

:48:52.:48:59.

Chelsea did reveal classified information.

:49:00.:49:02.

Does she acknowledge that some punishment for that was needed?

:49:03.:49:08.

Chelsea pled guilty to some lesser counts at the very beginning of this

:49:09.:49:12.

case and acknowledged that she had slowest classified evidence.

:49:13.:49:22.

case and acknowledged that she had disclosed classified evidence.

:49:23.:49:25.

But she believed and we still believe that her disclosures

:49:26.:49:28.

were in the public interest and that the public had a right

:49:29.:49:31.

to know what she disclosed and that therefore she should not be

:49:32.:49:34.

subjected to this incredible punishment.

:49:35.:49:37.

And so yes, for you, what are the next stages

:49:38.:49:42.

Ultimately we could end up in the Supreme Court

:49:43.:49:46.

Chelsea has some very significant legal issues

:49:47.:49:49.

But it will continue with her by our side.

:49:50.:49:56.

It will make it so much easier because Chelsea's very

:49:57.:50:00.

She was active and tremendously helpful in us writing our brief

:50:01.:50:05.

and it would just be wonderful to do it with her.

:50:06.:50:10.

And away from the legal case, what does Chelsea want

:50:11.:50:12.

A big part of this will be continuing her transition.

:50:13.:50:17.

I look forward to working with this young woman who I've gotten to know

:50:18.:50:25.

and who I will get to know better now that we can walk

:50:26.:50:29.

Have a meal together outside of prison.

:50:30.:50:37.

You know, do those things that one does with people

:50:38.:50:39.

We'll be spending a lot of time together and I really

:50:40.:50:43.

And Chelsea Manning is due to be released on Wednesday.

:50:44.:50:51.

Chelsea Manning's mother released this statement, "I'm so proud of

:50:52.:50:57.

Chelsea and I'm delighted that she will be free again. I'm happy she

:50:58.:51:02.

will be staying in Maryland where she has family to look out for her.

:51:03.:51:10.

Chelsea is so intelligent and talented she has the chance to go to

:51:11.:51:16.

college and do whatever she wants. My message to Chelsea, go girl."

:51:17.:51:23.

News just in, it is to do with the cyber attack. In Lincolnshire there

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is a call out to you urging you not to go to your GP. That's from the

:51:29.:51:32.

director of the Lincolnshire Medical Committee. Do not go to your GP in

:51:33.:51:37.

Lincolnshire today unless it is an emergency. And that's because all

:51:38.:51:41.

the GPs computers are still shutdown. So they have no access to

:51:42.:51:45.

files or prescriptions or blood test results right across the county. So

:51:46.:51:49.

if you're in Lincolnshire, if you can, please don't go to the GP today

:51:50.:51:54.

unless it's an emergency. That's from the Director of The

:51:55.:51:59.

Lincolnshire medical committee. On a similar note, Jeremy Corbyn is

:52:00.:52:02.

saying today that Labour is going to spend an extra ?37 billion on the

:52:03.:52:06.

NHS in England over the next five years if his party wins power. He is

:52:07.:52:11.

due to speak in the next hour at the Royal College of Nursing annual

:52:12.:52:14.

conference where nurses are threat k to hold their first ever strike

:52:15.:52:19.

unless years of pay restraint are ended by whoever forms the next

:52:20.:52:24.

Government. A sum are of protests is being planned by the Royal College

:52:25.:52:27.

of Nursing which says it will ballot for industrial action unless a 1%

:52:28.:52:33.

cap on pay is removed. So what is life like for nurses on

:52:34.:52:38.

the frontline? Let's talk to Heidi who is in Lincoln and is about to

:52:39.:52:43.

rejoin the NHS as a nurse after a stint in the private sector. Hello

:52:44.:52:49.

Heidi. Good morning. And Nottingham Newman who has been Nair nurse for

:52:50.:52:54.

five years and has seen the strain on resources grow. Hi Sam? Hi

:52:55.:53:00.

Victoria. Why are you going back into the NHS Heidi? I believe in the

:53:01.:53:06.

NHS. That's why I became a nurse. You know, I've wanted to get in for

:53:07.:53:10.

a long time. They are at the point they are so desperate they are

:53:11.:53:15.

having to take into consideration mums that have kids, people who

:53:16.:53:21.

don't always have childcare which is my situation, they're taking from

:53:22.:53:24.

abroad, they're taking nurses that have retired and are coming back to

:53:25.:53:28.

practise. They need the nursesment they don't have anyone at the

:53:29.:53:33.

moment. We're a highly skilled set of people. I totally believe in the

:53:34.:53:38.

NHS. I want to go become to it the I want to be part of the team. We're a

:53:39.:53:43.

family at end of the day. I have been working in the NHS as a locum

:53:44.:53:48.

for the last five years, but that's not me, I want to be at the heart of

:53:49.:53:58.

it properly. Sam, as a nurse who is still relatively new what, do you

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see? I see lots of nurses working very hard and in extremely difficult

:54:04.:54:09.

conditions. We've never felt this busy. We a constantly looking for

:54:10.:54:15.

beds. Often we're having to nurse our sickest patients in really ib

:54:16.:54:18.

appropriate places, that might be in A, in a theatre environment or on

:54:19.:54:22.

the ward and often patients are moved hots just because there aren't

:54:23.:54:26.

enough intensive care beds for them in their hospital. Would you

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consider voting to take part in industrial action, Sam? I think,

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every nurse that I know will take a sharp intake of breath. It won't be

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particularly palatable for them. But we're being forced into a corner

:54:43.:54:48.

that we can't get out of. We've tried negotiating. We've tried

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telling people what it's really like. But people don't seem to be

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listening. Certainly the people who make those decisions. And releasing

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the restraint on pay would what, sort out the nurses shortage? It

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will certainly help, yes. We've had pay artificially capped at 1% or

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lower for the last seven years and the current administration prop

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Issed to do that until 2020. With increasing workloads, and increasing

:55:23.:55:26.

pressures at work, people still want to nurse, but often they can't

:55:27.:55:30.

afford to. You've heard of nurses that are taking second jobs, they're

:55:31.:55:36.

doing extra overtime and agency work and we know in London that there

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aren't enough nurses. In fact nationwide there are 40,000

:55:42.:55:44.

vacancies, so increasing pay will go some way to helping with

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recruitment, yes. Heidi, you're about to rejoin the NHS after a

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stint in the private sector. Can you imagine voting to take part in

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industrial action because of the pay restraint that has been in the NHS

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for the last few years? It's extremely difficult for any nurse or

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any doctor even when the doctors did it to do that, but we are being

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pushed to the limit. When I qualified eight years ago, it was a

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reasonably good wage. We're still at the same point of wage. I mean, I'm

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going to take a massive pay drop coming back in. You know, but they

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need us. They need the nurses. The problem is, them putting us in the

:56:23.:56:27.

pay bracket that we are now, we, like my childcare is ?45 a day. My

:56:28.:56:33.

colleagues, we all have you know extra jobs. There are several of us

:56:34.:56:37.

that we've got three jobs just trying to make ends meet and I do

:56:38.:56:41.

have colleagues that are using foodbanks. Do you? You actually know

:56:42.:56:47.

nurse who are using foodbanks? Yes, I've given some of my friends food

:56:48.:56:50.

because because they have been so desperate. We are at breaking point

:56:51.:56:57.

as a profession. We want to provide the care for people. That's what we

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do. That's what we're here for. But we also need to live ourselves. OK.

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Thank you both. Thank you very much. I really appreciate you coming on

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the programme. Cheers, thank you. Heidi who is about to rejoining the

:57:13.:57:18.

NHS as a nurse after being in the private sector and Sam Newman who

:57:19.:57:22.

has been an intensive care nurse for five years and Jeremy Corbyn is due

:57:23.:57:28.

to address the Royal College of Nursing college this morning and

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we'll give it to you live. The latest news and sport in a sec,

:57:34.:57:39.

but first the weather. Hi Matt. Rain is with us and what a morning it has

:57:40.:57:43.

been across many parts of the UK so far the scenes very similar to this

:57:44.:57:45.

one captured in Staffordshire earlier the the rain falling down.

:57:46.:57:49.

Some heavy bursts, but at least some of the gardeners, and the farlers

:57:50.:57:53.

and also some of our feathered friends are fairly happy about it,

:57:54.:57:58.

but for some, it signifies a big departure what we have seen of late,

:57:59.:58:03.

the hills of south-west and north-west England, you could see

:58:04.:58:07.

more rain in the next 24 hours than you've seen in the past six weeks.

:58:08.:58:13.

Just about all of us. Maybe Shetland the driest place of all, but across

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East Anglia and the South East where we started with sunshine, some

:58:18.:58:22.

owicational splashes of rain, always heaviest with a breeze across the

:58:23.:58:25.

western coasts and hills and that rain will spread across Scotland.

:58:26.:58:29.

Easing off a little bit in Northern Ireland where we have seen an Nigel

:58:30.:58:32.

Farage of rain, 25 mill peters since the early hours of the morning, but

:58:33.:58:36.

not completely rid of the showers, brightest towards the north coast.

:58:37.:58:39.

Sub shine this afternoon and in the breeze across the Moray Firth, could

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hit 20 or 21 Celsius. Contrast that with ten or 11 Celsius aconning the

:58:45.:58:55.

Angus coast. Occasional rain elsewhere across the south and the

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east. Wherever you are, temperatures on the you. Temperatures around 15,

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16 Celsius and they're not going to drop much tonight. The best of any

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breaks - but for most a cloud crisis night. Further rain at times. Misty

:59:12.:59:15.

across the west. And note the temperatures into tomorrow morning.

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Pretty mild and muggy start to your Tuesday morning with lows of 14 or

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15 Celsius. Still got weather fronts on the chart and a breeze to go into

:59:25.:59:28.

Tuesday. This cold front here will bring some of the heaviest bursts of

:59:29.:59:31.

rain working southwards and eastwards across England and Wales

:59:32.:59:34.

the only a few showers in East Anglia and the South East and it is

:59:35.:59:37.

here where the warmest of the air will be come. A few breaks in the

:59:38.:59:41.

cloud, we could see highs of 24 Celsius. Temperatures still in the

:59:42.:59:48.

high teens and maybe low 20s for one or two. So we've got the warmest

:59:49.:59:51.

weather on Tuesday towards the South East corner. This is where we will

:59:52.:59:55.

see the wettest weather as we go into Wednesday. Brightest to the

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north and the west. Turning to sunshine and showers. Feeling a good

:00:02.:00:05.

deal fresher as well and as we finish the week, it will be a case

:00:06.:00:09.

of low pressure with us. A bit of sunshine for all of us, but the key

:00:10.:00:13.

thing is it turns coolermenten joy your day.

:00:14.:00:15.

-- cooler, enjoy your day. Hello, it's Monday it's 10 o'clock,

:00:16.:00:25.

I'm Victoria Derbyshire. As thousands of NHS staff log

:00:26.:00:27.

on for the first time this morning since the discovery of a ransomware

:00:28.:00:30.

virus on Friday, there are warnings there could be

:00:31.:00:32.

further problems today. People in Lincolnshire are being

:00:33.:00:40.

told not to go to their GP unless it is an emergency. We are already

:00:41.:00:44.

seeing new versions of the ransomware without the kill switch.

:00:45.:00:48.

We will bring you the latest. The Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood

:00:49.:00:51.

has revealed she has gone through the menopause

:00:52.:00:53.

and that she has taken Have you ever taken illegal drugs?

:00:54.:01:04.

Yes, cannabis, a long time ago. When I was younger I tried a few things.

:01:05.:01:09.

I would rather not go into details but yes, I have.

:01:10.:01:25.

Oh the BAFTA goes to the Queen's 90th birthday. The BAFTA goes to the

:01:26.:01:33.

magnificent Sarah Lancashire. The BAFTA goes to Joanna Lumley! Our

:01:34.:01:41.

programme won a BAFTA for our footballers abuse story last year.

:01:42.:01:46.

We will talk to Andy Woodward in the next half an hour or so. If you have

:01:47.:01:54.

a message for him, do send it to me and I will read it to him.

:01:55.:02:01.

Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:02:02.:02:03.

The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd and Health Secretary,

:02:04.:02:05.

Jeremy Hunt will chair a Cobra meeting on cyber security later

:02:06.:02:08.

this morning as the computer virus which first hit the health service

:02:09.:02:11.

on Friday is reportedly still causing serious problems

:02:12.:02:13.

at a number NHS organisations - including hospitals - in England.

:02:14.:02:20.

The director of Lincolnshire medical committee has advised patients not

:02:21.:02:25.

to visit their GP unless it is an emergency and says all computer

:02:26.:02:28.

systems are shut down. North Korea says the missile it

:02:29.:02:32.

tested successfully on Sunday was a new type of rocket capable

:02:33.:02:35.

of carrying a nuclear warhead. This footage which has just been

:02:36.:02:38.

released by North Korean state TV shows the launch which took place

:02:39.:02:41.

over the weekend. The United States says it would be

:02:42.:02:43.

prepared to impose more sanctions on the country if it continues

:02:44.:02:46.

to test ballistic missiles. The North Korean news agency said

:02:47.:02:48.

leader Kim Jong-Un personally Theresa May will today promise

:02:49.:02:51.

the biggest expansion of workers' rights of any Conservative

:02:52.:02:57.

administration - if her party wins The Prime Minister will outline

:02:58.:02:59.

a series of pledges including worker representation on company boards

:03:00.:03:06.

and the legal right to take leave Labour has dismissed the plans

:03:07.:03:10.

saying Mrs May is Labour says they will spend an extra

:03:11.:03:14.

?37 billion on the NHS in England over the next five years -

:03:15.:03:21.

if they win power. The party's "new deal"

:03:22.:03:24.

for the health service includes a pledge to take a million people

:03:25.:03:26.

off waiting lists and to upgrade IT systems following

:03:27.:03:30.

the cyber-attack on the NHS. The Conservatives said they were

:03:31.:03:33.

already increasing health funding. Throughout the election campaign

:03:34.:03:39.

we'll be taking an in depth look at the key issues that

:03:40.:03:42.

are important to you. Today we're focussing

:03:43.:03:44.

on the economy and we'll be putting your questions live

:03:45.:03:47.

to Paul Johnson from the Institute You can get in touch via Twitter

:03:48.:03:49.

using the hashtag BBC Ask This or text your questions to 61124

:03:50.:03:53.

and you can email us as well President Trump has been urged

:03:54.:03:57.

to hand over any recordings of conversations between him

:03:58.:04:11.

and sacked FBI director Senior opposition politicians

:04:12.:04:13.

continue to pressure the president over allegations Russia meddled

:04:14.:04:17.

in last year's election. They warn destroying any

:04:18.:04:19.

tapes - if they exist - That's a summary of the latest BBC

:04:20.:04:21.

News - more at 11.00. Do get in touch with us

:04:22.:04:35.

throughout the morning - use the hashtag Victoria LIVE

:04:36.:04:37.

and If you text, you will be charged Sport and he was back. Hello, once

:04:38.:04:40.

again, good morning. Hull City manager Marco Silva sez

:04:41.:04:45.

he will meet with the club about his future following their relegation

:04:46.:04:48.

from the Premier League. They needed a win to give them any

:04:49.:04:50.

realistic chance of survival, but made the worst possible start

:04:51.:04:53.

conceding after two minutes, The result keeps Crystal Palace

:04:54.:04:56.

in the league, but sees Hull drop back down to the championship

:04:57.:05:02.

after just a year, and with no idea if their manager will stay

:05:03.:05:05.

on to lead the team next season. It is a sad day for us for our fans,

:05:06.:05:19.

for our boys. It is not a good moment. Now was the moment the club

:05:20.:05:25.

needs the next step and has to understand why this happened and why

:05:26.:05:30.

the club is having many problems this season.

:05:31.:05:32.

Tottenham celebrated their final game at White Hart Lane with a 2-1

:05:33.:05:35.

win against Manchester United, who now can't qualify for

:05:36.:05:37.

Spurs made the perfect start thanks to an early goal

:05:38.:05:41.

That secures them second in the table.

:05:42.:05:45.

Next season they'll play their home games at Wembley

:05:46.:05:47.

Now it's the kind of high-speed overtaking move that makes

:05:48.:05:55.

Trailing Sebastian Vettel despite starting on pole

:05:56.:05:57.

Lewis Hamilton pulled off a pass at around 220 miles per hour to go

:05:58.:06:02.

by the Ferrari driver about two thirds of the way through,

:06:03.:06:05.

and eventually go on to win and reduce Vettel's lead

:06:06.:06:07.

It's already becoming a classic season.

:06:08.:06:12.

Hamilton and Vettel have two wins each so far.

:06:13.:06:17.

Hopes of a first British winner of cycling's Giro d'Italia

:06:18.:06:20.

are effectively over after a crash on the ninth stage.

:06:21.:06:24.

Team Sky's Geraint Thomas and Orica-Scott's Adam Yates

:06:25.:06:26.

were both caught up in a collision with a stationary police motorbike

:06:27.:06:29.

on the roadside nine miles from the finish.

:06:30.:06:32.

The pair, who were second and third going into Sunday's stage -

:06:33.:06:35.

now trail new overall leader Nairo Quintana by five minutes.

:06:36.:06:44.

A pretty bruising sport when it does not go your way. Headlines coming up

:06:45.:06:52.

at 10:30am. Thank you. Let me read some more

:06:53.:06:58.

comments. This from Pauline who says she was refreshed, that is not quite

:06:59.:07:02.

the right word, she was pleased to see Leanne Wood the leader of Plaid

:07:03.:07:06.

Cymru answering in a refreshingly open manner in our interview. She

:07:07.:07:11.

said it impressed me immensely. I wish more MPs would own up to not

:07:12.:07:15.

knowing rather than blustering and blundering and trying to evade the

:07:16.:07:20.

question. And another person says thanks Leanne Wood for being so

:07:21.:07:25.

honest, so refreshing among the current sound bite politicians. One

:07:26.:07:30.

or two of you are wondering how it is possible to drive and concentrate

:07:31.:07:35.

on other things at the same time. It is multitasking. Women do it all the

:07:36.:07:37.

time. Labour and the conservatives

:07:38.:07:39.

are due to launch their manifestos this week -

:07:40.:07:41.

setting out their priorities and promises should they win

:07:42.:07:43.

the general election This morning they've been setting

:07:44.:07:45.

out a little bit more detail on workers' rights and the NHS -

:07:46.:07:48.

and our political guru He is in Liverpool at the Royal

:07:49.:07:57.

College of Nursing conference. Jeremy Corbyn is set to address the

:07:58.:08:02.

conference later. What we get today's Labour's biggest promise of

:08:03.:08:06.

the election campaign. They say they will spend ?37 billion on pumping

:08:07.:08:10.

money into the NHS, to cut waiting times by a million, and they will

:08:11.:08:15.

also introduce a whole load of new targets. If you have a serious

:08:16.:08:19.

injury you would have to be seen in A by one hour and they want to

:08:20.:08:21.

halve the amount of time for Cancer referrals. Big, big

:08:22.:08:38.

promises by Labour on the NHS. We will also hear from the Lib Dem

:08:39.:08:40.

leader Tim Farron and he will talk about ending the pay cap in the

:08:41.:08:43.

health service, and he will also reiterate on how the Lib Dems would

:08:44.:08:46.

look to put a penny on income tax to pay for big changes in the NHS. A

:08:47.:08:49.

lot about the NHS from the two main opposition parties. It is worth

:08:50.:08:51.

saying that the government's spending watchdog the National Audit

:08:52.:08:54.

Office said just for the NHS to stand still they would need an extra

:08:55.:08:59.

?56 billion. That underlines the scale of the challenge facing the

:09:00.:09:03.

NHS. We are an ageing population. Even though both opposition parties

:09:04.:09:08.

are promising more money, that may not be enough. And the Conservatives

:09:09.:09:12.

today are talking about workers' rights, guaranteeing workers'

:09:13.:09:16.

rights. You do not really think of having that in the same sentence,

:09:17.:09:21.

Conservatives, workers' rights. Extraordinary in many ways. I cannot

:09:22.:09:33.

recall a Conservative Party going into an election making a big deal

:09:34.:09:36.

about workers' rights but that is what Theresa May is trying to do.

:09:37.:09:38.

She has come forward with a package of measures saying if you have a

:09:39.:09:41.

sick relative you could take a year off and your job would be guaranteed

:09:42.:09:44.

at the end of it. She also says if you have a child who dies you should

:09:45.:09:47.

be allowed reasonably. If you want to know more about decisions

:09:48.:09:50.

companies are making you should have a right to certain key bits of

:09:51.:09:54.

information and additional protection for people working in the

:09:55.:09:59.

so-called gig economy. That is extraordinary for a Conservative

:10:00.:10:02.

Party. A lot of people will say that is fine and dandy but pay is under

:10:03.:10:04.

pressure, austerity is coming on, this basic

:10:05.:10:22.

nuts and bolts of your working life, that will not change much but it

:10:23.:10:25.

does seem as if Mrs May is trying to encroach on what is traditional

:10:26.:10:27.

Labour territory. We have seen that with a number of her ideas. We saw

:10:28.:10:30.

her suggestion of a cap on energy prices interfering with the free

:10:31.:10:32.

market which the Tories have traditionally stood up for. And at

:10:33.:10:35.

the weekend she said local authorities should be able to buy

:10:36.:10:38.

land at below market rate to build council houses. Some of the papers

:10:39.:10:46.

are fairing to her as red May. We will get reaction to the various

:10:47.:10:54.

announcements today. We have been highlighting the best gas or clock

:10:55.:10:57.

up so far. We need a general election and we need one now. To

:10:58.:11:04.

every city and town we state... Our clear intention. About the future of

:11:05.:11:12.

the country. The question is this... Are voters getting tired of

:11:13.:11:21.

politicians? Let me finish. So you know politicians often dodge

:11:22.:11:25.

answering questions. I guess we have got used to that but what about the

:11:26.:11:29.

quickfire easy questions which are meant to give people a sense of who

:11:30.:11:34.

politicians are? I have to say politicians do not seem to be any

:11:35.:11:38.

better at that. In the last election Gordon Brown was asked on Mumsnet

:11:39.:11:42.

what his favourite biscuit was. Everybody knows what their favourite

:11:43.:11:47.

biscuit is that Gordon Brown was asked five times, he did not answer

:11:48.:11:51.

five times and the next day his press office put out an answer

:11:52.:11:54.

saying he liked something with chocolate on it. What is that?! It

:11:55.:11:59.

could be a chocolate finger, a digestive or edge advocate. It does

:12:00.:12:05.

not mean anything. Theresa May had quickfire questions from students. I

:12:06.:12:12.

have to say, really, we got no answers. We will have the questions

:12:13.:12:13.

on screen. The answer was she had not seen

:12:14.:12:32.

either programme. To the second question she answered depends. An

:12:33.:12:37.

Indian or Chinese takeaway she said, I do not have taken ways, I cook.

:12:38.:12:42.

Theresa May, you are telling us nothing.

:12:43.:12:48.

This is why I am convinced this is one of the most boring elections we

:12:49.:12:51.

have ever covered! What else have you got, Norman? She does not do

:12:52.:13:00.

herself any favours. I also like this picture of Jeremy Corbyn with a

:13:01.:13:12.

little DAX -- actioned. A little dog. Someone put the dog up to him,

:13:13.:13:17.

I think he's called Cody. It looks like he's asking him a difficult

:13:18.:13:22.

question. Another question what are you a cat person or a dog person? It

:13:23.:13:31.

depends! I like both. Thank you very much, Norman. That is a Theresa May

:13:32.:13:35.

answer. Absolutely! Lets get reaction from people. What

:13:36.:13:54.

about workers' rights? Roger, you are a conservative voter. I am a

:13:55.:14:03.

Conservative voter. I think now is a perfect opportunity to try part of

:14:04.:14:07.

the electorate who would not traditionally have thought about

:14:08.:14:11.

voting for the party. I think workers' rights are good for

:14:12.:14:14.

business so I think the Conservatives come around to that,

:14:15.:14:18.

there is a link there to provide good policies that workers would

:14:19.:14:26.

like. Carers leave, I think naturally a lot of people will like

:14:27.:14:31.

that. Not necessarily if you or a boss. We have had maternity leave,

:14:32.:14:36.

shared parental leave and a lot of bosses come around to that. Carers'

:14:37.:14:41.

leave, I think naturally businesses will warm to the idea. Who else

:14:42.:14:47.

would trust Theresa May when it comes to guaranteeing workers'

:14:48.:14:52.

rights? No way! Look at when they tried to ban striking. They are not

:14:53.:14:56.

to be trusted when it comes to workers. This is purely a tactic to

:14:57.:15:00.

try and steal more working-class Labour voters in my opinion. Where I

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come from, I come from up north, we feel like we are being abandoned by

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Labour so it is only right that the Conservative Party to try and pick

:15:10.:15:13.

up those seats. It might be an open clap adverts but it is something

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that I support. Workers' rights are great.

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Julie is a teacher. She is in Essex and Wayne runs his own business and

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is in Dunstable, hi Wayne. You run your own business, do you employ

:15:30.:15:35.

people? Is it just you? Currently it's just me and a few subject

:15:36.:15:39.

contractors, but this sort of legislation is one of the reasons

:15:40.:15:43.

why we don't employ because it just, for a small business it would be

:15:44.:15:46.

unpracticable to have someone to have a year off and keep a job safe.

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Right, OK. So we steer away from employing and basically it stops our

:15:54.:15:58.

growth of the business. Right. Julie, what would your view be on

:15:59.:16:02.

the Conservatives saying that they're going to safeguard workers

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rights and introduce new things, would you trust them on that? I

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wouldn't trust it until I see it to be honest. I don't feel that they

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have a history of supporting workers. And yeah, I think it's just

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another one of those things just to grab those extra votes from those

:16:19.:16:23.

people who would normally vote Labour or are unsure. Who do people

:16:24.:16:28.

trust when it comes to the NHS? The Conservatives. You trust the NHS?

:16:29.:16:32.

Yes. Is that the sail for everybody? Not at all. I think if anything, the

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Lib Dems idea on how to progress with the NHS is better because

:16:40.:16:44.

they've set out, we'll do a one pence tax increase and everything

:16:45.:16:49.

from that will go to the NHS, but Labour are throwing out numbers and

:16:50.:16:53.

reducing wait times to an hour. It's never going to happen. They say this

:16:54.:16:59.

is what Labour are announcing today, Jeremy Corbyn is due it speak, we'll

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cross to it live, ?37 billion over the course of the next Parliament

:17:04.:17:09.

for the NHS, paid for by raising income tax on those who earn

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?80,000. Let's tax the people who are doing well. Would you not want

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that, if it meant money going to the NHS, Wayne? Of course, we should

:17:20.:17:24.

fund the NHS as much as possible, but again, you're increasing woshers

:17:25.:17:29.

rights and you've got Corbyn saying about taxing people who are doing

:17:30.:17:32.

well. There has to be a fine balance, of course, but Labour just

:17:33.:17:35.

seem it attack anybody that's getting on, trying to get grab

:17:36.:17:40.

themselves from below working class to getting higher up and ?80,000,

:17:41.:17:46.

yeah, it's a lot of mub, but you key taxing these type of people and they

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won't be interested in earning more money. There has to be move

:17:50.:17:54.

investment in the NHS Trust infrastructure, did you see not the

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cyber attack? That's a direct result of the Tories cuts, last year the

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Tories took ?1 billion from the capital budget. The infrastructure

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has to be invested in otherwise we will see more crisises. The cuts are

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only there because of the overspending in the 20000s. The

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Conservatives say they've ring-fenced health spending. You're

:18:20.:18:25.

a Lib Dem supporter The broad issue here is where Corbyn's policy would

:18:26.:18:30.

bring in more money? If you push taxes up too high then Government

:18:31.:18:34.

revenue deceases and I think what Tim Farron said, putting a penny on

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the income tax is a moderate way about going about it? So it's all

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right for the Leles to put up taxes and not Labour? A penny on income

:18:42.:18:46.

tax is a modest increase, but if you're looking, as the Conservatives

:18:47.:18:50.

talk about going back to the 70s, and when you sort of reform the tax

:18:51.:18:56.

system, one good thing the Thatcher Government did is Government

:18:57.:19:00.

revenues go up, when you look at the NHS issue as a whole and have the

:19:01.:19:04.

conversations, a lot of people are sick and tired of it being used as a

:19:05.:19:08.

political football and not which party has the best policy? You need

:19:09.:19:14.

to look at the people who are involved and remember the humanity

:19:15.:19:17.

involved, we're dealing with lives as well as unless and I think

:19:18.:19:21.

increasing pay is a great thing to do. I think the cap, the 1% cap by

:19:22.:19:26.

the Tories is insulting, the president-elect workers are the

:19:27.:19:29.

lifeblood of our country. Both Labour and the Lib Dems said they

:19:30.:19:35.

would end the 1% cap on president-elect workers? Maybe not

:19:36.:19:39.

100% on where Labour is going it get the money, I think that pay rise is

:19:40.:19:44.

something that I definitely support. There is a certain sense of like

:19:45.:19:50.

unrealism from these governments that... From which governments?

:19:51.:19:56.

From... From all the parties? From Labour and the Lib Dems. They're go

:19:57.:19:59.

against everything that the Conservatives say. The Conservatives

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put a cap on it. They can discuss how realistic it maybe and how it

:20:04.:20:06.

might be neededment Labour is always going to go against it because

:20:07.:20:11.

that's what they do. Certainly in a general election campaign, whatever

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promise a party makes the other parties completely rubbish it and

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then often several years later, take that policy for themselves. I'm

:20:20.:20:25.

going to pause you there because Jeremy Corbyn is speaking in

:20:26.:20:28.

Liverpool at the RCN conference. Here he is. And in our National

:20:29.:20:32.

Health Service for all the work that you do and the way that you often

:20:33.:20:38.

get criticised, but in fact, people working in the National Health

:20:39.:20:41.

Service because they love their work, they love the profession, and

:20:42.:20:45.

they basically do it because they want us all to be healthy. So thank

:20:46.:20:49.

you all very much indeed for everything you do.

:20:50.:20:55.

APPLAUSE And our politicians owe you a great

:20:56.:21:01.

duty. A duty to ensure that you can work with dignity and that you're

:21:02.:21:05.

not held back from providing the best possible standard of service to

:21:06.:21:11.

all of your patients because I do understand the stress that so many

:21:12.:21:16.

of you go through every day. I talk frequently to local GPs in my own

:21:17.:21:20.

area as well as nurses in my local hospital and I have worked in the

:21:21.:21:23.

past in the trade unions in the National Health Service. And so, I

:21:24.:21:29.

want to outline to you today what Labour wants to offer to you in the

:21:30.:21:35.

general election. We're ready to step in and save the NHS from the

:21:36.:21:39.

cuts and privatisation that have happened over the past seven years.

:21:40.:21:46.

Every day I'm, I ensure that our general election team is fully aware

:21:47.:21:50.

of the importance of the National Health Service. At our headquarters

:21:51.:21:55.

in London the walls are decorated with original posters from the 1940s

:21:56.:22:02.

saying Labour's Health Service covers everyone and the Tories voted

:22:03.:22:08.

against it. Nothing embodies our campaign theme for the many, not the

:22:09.:22:11.

few, better than the National Health Service. Universal life long

:22:12.:22:17.

healthcare, free at the point of need. However, our Health Service is

:22:18.:22:23.

actually being dismantled by stealth. Over the past seven years

:22:24.:22:28.

our National Health Service has been driven into crisis after crisis. A

:22:29.:22:34.

departments struggling to cope. Waiting lists soaring. And we saw

:22:35.:22:41.

last week the Tory cuts have exposed patients services to cyber attack. I

:22:42.:22:47.

want to pay a huge tribute to all the NHS staff and the ware they

:22:48.:22:50.

responded to this terrible cyber attack. The stress you must have

:22:51.:22:55.

faced trying to keep patients safe must have been intense and still is.

:22:56.:23:01.

This is just another example of the extraordinary lengths all of you go

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to every day to keep our country healthy.

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APPLAUSE I was talking to doctors and nurses

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at the hospital in Great Yarmouth on Saturday. Like many all its

:23:18.:23:21.

operations had been cancelled because of the cyber attack. Frankly

:23:22.:23:25.

the cyber attack is highway robbery against all of us. We have to have

:23:26.:23:31.

investment in our NHS to protect all the systems so we're not held to

:23:32.:23:36.

ransom by criminals who are doing us all damage and doing us all down.

:23:37.:23:40.

You stepped up to try to protect our patients. Thank you very much for

:23:41.:23:48.

what you did. APPLAUSE

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Our NHS is under threat from privatisation which was brought in

:23:53.:23:57.

by the Health and Social Care Act. The privatisation has gone on a huge

:23:58.:24:03.

scale. ?13 billion of taxpayers money handed over the last year to

:24:04.:24:08.

private companies to profit from our NHS services. Bevan said of the

:24:09.:24:16.

National Health Service it will only last as long as there are folk with

:24:17.:24:23.

faith left to fight for it. I say to everyone, remember those words,

:24:24.:24:28.

those pressing words and in all my life, I have been involved in

:24:29.:24:31.

campaigns to support and defend the National Health Service. And I know

:24:32.:24:38.

what every hospital has friends. Every GPs surgeries has friends.

:24:39.:24:41.

Minister millions of people in this country who are utterly determined

:24:42.:24:45.

to defend the principle of a National Health Service free at the

:24:46.:24:49.

point of use for everybody in our society. We're here in Nye's legacy.

:24:50.:25:01.

APPLAUSE And in hospitals, health centres and

:25:02.:25:05.

communities all cross the land there are many people who are listening

:25:06.:25:09.

very carefully to this election and thinking very carefully about their

:25:10.:25:13.

future. People for whom working in the NHS is a privilege, and a

:25:14.:25:19.

pleasure. Like so many, in public service everywhere, people work in

:25:20.:25:23.

it and believe in the principles of the NHS. A service like no other.

:25:24.:25:30.

Not a service which checks your bank balance before it checks your blood

:25:31.:25:35.

pressure. I'm always astonished-I talk to people from the United

:25:36.:25:40.

States. We talk to each other in a normal way about each other's

:25:41.:25:42.

health, that's the normal conversation. Man in the United

:25:43.:25:47.

States talk about the quality of the private health insurance they've

:25:48.:25:50.

got. They lack what we have which is one of the most civilised things

:25:51.:25:53.

about our country, that is our National Health Service. We are

:25:54.:25:58.

utterly determined to defend it. APPLAUSE

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I wanted to say something about the state of nursing. Britain is not

:26:07.:26:12.

being run for the many, it's not being run for the majority and

:26:13.:26:16.

across our country I believe people are being held back. If you're a

:26:17.:26:22.

student nurse, without a bursary, doing a second job, to make ends

:26:23.:26:29.

meet, you're being held back. If you worry about your children because

:26:30.:26:33.

they can't get together a deposit for a home or afford the deposit to

:26:34.:26:38.

rent a private place then you're being held back. If you manage a

:26:39.:26:43.

ward in a hospital, and you can't free up beds because of the cuts in

:26:44.:26:48.

social care, then you have a problem. The Government is holding

:26:49.:26:54.

you back. Stopping you from doing properly the job you were trained

:26:55.:27:00.

and proud to do. We are the sixth ripest country in the world. It

:27:01.:27:04.

cannot be right that we have these problems. It cannot be right that

:27:05.:27:10.

trained nurses are leaving the profession for other jobs. It cannot

:27:11.:27:15.

be right that tax given aways for the very rich and big business have

:27:16.:27:21.

been put in front of the needs of funding our National Health Service,

:27:22.:27:27.

social care, and proper treatment for all NHS staff.

:27:28.:27:32.

STUDIO: OK, let's leave Jeremy Corbyn.

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Some reaction from you. I think the biggest problem with Jeremy Corbyn

:27:39.:27:42.

and this speech is he's looking backwards.s' talking about the past.

:27:43.:27:45.

He mentioned the poster of the 1940s NHS. We know he's looking forwards

:27:46.:27:50.

and promising ?37 billion for the next Parliament... He hasn't laid

:27:51.:27:53.

out any plans. We have seen in the leaked draft this is what they want

:27:54.:27:59.

to do, but I think we're waiting to hear Their manifesto is how.

:28:00.:28:02.

Tomorrow. They keep saying it will be fully costed and it will be in

:28:03.:28:05.

the manifesto so we'll fund out tomorrow. How do you cost that?

:28:06.:28:09.

Because Labour has already said it's not going to tax anyone earning less

:28:10.:28:13.

than ?80,000. Yes, corporation tax is going to go up to 26% by 2022,

:28:14.:28:20.

but ?37 billion, it is not costed. He talks about privatisation of the

:28:21.:28:23.

NHS by stealth. Well, that sounds like the destruction of the United

:28:24.:28:27.

Kingdom by stealth if you ask me. You see that the NHS under the

:28:28.:28:31.

Conservatives has been in huge crisis. You see the junior doctors

:28:32.:28:35.

marching on protest and the Conservatives have had seven years

:28:36.:28:40.

to prove that they were behind the NHS and were planning to reorganise

:28:41.:28:45.

it and have a big formation and they just haven't. But say what you will

:28:46.:28:52.

will investing ?10 million by 2022, at least that's a realistic figure,

:28:53.:28:55.

that something that's costed. This however, is just restoric. Wayne,

:28:56.:29:01.

you want to get in here. Go on. It's all right plebleging all this money,

:29:02.:29:06.

but until we see some facts that show where the money can come from,

:29:07.:29:11.

it's just hot air and that's all Jeremy seems to deliver is hot air

:29:12.:29:14.

promises that the only way to sustain that is by borrowing and

:29:15.:29:19.

look where that got us last time. I think he shot himself in the foot

:29:20.:29:22.

here because he has come out with grand gesture of this amount of

:29:23.:29:28.

money and thens' going on I have to explain how we'll get it later. He

:29:29.:29:32.

shot himself in the foot, we think he has got some under hand New

:29:33.:29:39.

Labour tax that is going ahead. The Leles said one pence. No, he said

:29:40.:29:44.

how they'd pay for it. You mean for the ?37 billion? Yes. Taxing people

:29:45.:29:51.

who earn over ?80,000 and reversing the cuts in corporation tax. The

:29:52.:29:59.

Barnett Formula as well. The Tories have proved they're incompetent when

:30:00.:30:02.

it comes to dealing with the NHS. It is time that Labour took the reigns

:30:03.:30:06.

and made a difference. The NHS is always in crisis. It always has

:30:07.:30:10.

been. It's not Labour. It's not the Conservatives. It's this country. We

:30:11.:30:13.

need to have a national conversation about how we use the NHS. We are

:30:14.:30:18.

reliant upon it to the point of death. It is there to take care of

:30:19.:30:23.

us, but it is not to take care of us whenever we're obese and not there

:30:24.:30:31.

to take care of us because we smoke. Julie what, do you think? I just

:30:32.:30:35.

think from the speech, I think the principles of what he's saying are,

:30:36.:30:39.

you know, great, the fact that he's talking about the are the for the

:30:40.:30:43.

people who work every day in a service that is completely stretched

:30:44.:30:48.

and they're having to manage things that, you know, that are thrown at

:30:49.:30:52.

them every day as well as do their job and I think it's really

:30:53.:30:56.

important to think about, actually these people who are getting the

:30:57.:31:02.

public service workers, they are the people that keep us going and if we

:31:03.:31:06.

don't invest in them, they are the backbone of the country.

:31:07.:31:13.

You know and some people have brought it up, Labour have a

:31:14.:31:18.

reputation for spending and not knowing how they will pay for

:31:19.:31:21.

things, are you finding the explanations about how they will pay

:31:22.:31:26.

for things credible? Yes. Have the Tories increased the debt? Yes, they

:31:27.:31:32.

have. So what is the difference between what Labour are doing and

:31:33.:31:38.

the Tories are doing? The national debt has gone up substantially since

:31:39.:31:43.

2010. But if you look at borrowing levels last month, after the budget

:31:44.:31:48.

borrowing levels fell for the first time to levels seen below the

:31:49.:31:53.

crisis. But the country still has a ?50 billion deficit which the

:31:54.:31:56.

Conservatives have promised to pay off on a number of times and it is

:31:57.:32:02.

still there and debt continues to rise. It is continuing to rise but I

:32:03.:32:07.

don't see any way that Labour will address this in a secure way. And

:32:08.:32:12.

they have no intentions to address this. So debt under the

:32:13.:32:19.

Conservatives is OK but under Labour it is not? Not at all but at least

:32:20.:32:24.

we are honest about where we want to go. Under Labour, the policies they

:32:25.:32:28.

are proposing will increase debt even further. There will be more

:32:29.:32:33.

borrowing. There has to be some sort of Ulster are to put overall,

:32:34.:32:37.

underneath the Conservatives, we are trying to be honest with the public

:32:38.:32:40.

and say it will be a hard road ahead, but this is what we intend to

:32:41.:32:45.

do. With Labour they throw things out. Do you know what Theresa May is

:32:46.:32:52.

intending to do? What do you think she has promised? Look at some of

:32:53.:32:55.

the workers' rights she has promised. I think she is coming from

:32:56.:33:00.

a very genuine, honest leader and she is putting out their... What

:33:01.:33:05.

about the deficit and the debt? Do you have an idea apart from these

:33:06.:33:08.

strong and stable economy mantra, do you have an idea of what a

:33:09.:33:14.

Conservative Theresa May government would do with the economy? I think

:33:15.:33:19.

she is very conscious that she does not want to make it hard for people

:33:20.:33:22.

but the fact is the debt is still there and she will have to address

:33:23.:33:26.

the debt in the long run. And she can only do that if she clears the

:33:27.:33:32.

deficit. You don't help the situation by taxing and increasing

:33:33.:33:37.

costs to small businesses which are the backbone of Great Britain. The

:33:38.:33:41.

butcher cannot afford to add all these workers' rights into his

:33:42.:33:45.

campaign. I am a plumber. I cannot afford to have a skilled plumber for

:33:46.:33:50.

a year. It is impossible. Without companies like mine and small

:33:51.:33:55.

businesses growing, you cannot pay back the deficit. Nothing will grow.

:33:56.:33:59.

That is interesting. Thank you, Wayne, Julie and all of you in the

:34:00.:34:03.

studio. Thank you for coming on the programme.

:34:04.:34:06.

We're going to be in Bedfordshire on Monday, 29th May for a big

:34:07.:34:09.

If you would like to join us, send us an e-mail.

:34:10.:34:36.

This news just in and it is to do with the NHS cyber attack. It is

:34:37.:34:43.

from the National Crime Agency. They have just tweeted, if you are a

:34:44.:34:48.

victim of ransomware, do not pay. There is no guarantee that access to

:34:49.:34:54.

your files will be restored. That is to do with the cyber attack on

:34:55.:35:02.

Friday. Do not pay, say the National Crime Agency. Still to come...

:35:03.:35:10.

As you can see we won a BAFTA on our footballers abuse story. Andy

:35:11.:35:19.

Woodward spoke out and led to hundreds of others coming forward.

:35:20.:35:20.

We will speak to him later. We'll be talking about

:35:21.:35:22.

the controversial teen suicide drama that has prompted warnings

:35:23.:35:25.

from schools to parents. Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom

:35:26.:35:28.

with a summary of today's news. The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd

:35:29.:35:31.

and Health Secretary, Jeremy Hunt will chair a Cobra

:35:32.:35:33.

meeting on cyber security later this morning as the computer virus

:35:34.:35:36.

which first hit the health service on Friday is reportedly

:35:37.:35:38.

still causing serious problems at a number NHS organisations -

:35:39.:35:40.

including hospitals - in England. The director of Lincolnshire medical

:35:41.:35:48.

committee has advised patients not to visit their GP unless it is

:35:49.:35:53.

an emergency and says CT and MRI scans across

:35:54.:36:09.

Northumberland have also been cancelled today.

:36:10.:36:13.

North Korea says the missile it tested successfully on Sunday

:36:14.:36:15.

was a new type of rocket capable of carrying a nuclear warhead.

:36:16.:36:18.

This footage which has just been released by North Korean state TV

:36:19.:36:21.

shows the launch which took place over the weekend.

:36:22.:36:23.

The United States says it would be prepared to impose more sanctions

:36:24.:36:26.

on the country if it continues to test ballistic missiles.

:36:27.:36:28.

The North Korean news agency said leader Kim Jong-Un personally

:36:29.:36:30.

Theresa May will today promise the biggest expansion of workers'

:36:31.:36:34.

rights of any Conservative administration - if her party wins

:36:35.:36:36.

The Prime Minister will outline a series of pledges including worker

:36:37.:36:40.

representation on company boards and the legal right to take leave

:36:41.:36:43.

Labour has dismissed the plans saying Mrs May is

:36:44.:36:46.

Labour says they will spend an extra ?37 billion on the NHS in England

:36:47.:36:54.

over the next five years - if they win power.

:36:55.:36:57.

The party's "new deal" for the health service includes

:36:58.:36:59.

a pledge to take a million people off waiting lists and to upgrade

:37:00.:37:02.

IT systems following the cyber-attack on the NHS.

:37:03.:37:05.

The Conservatives said they were already increasing health funding.

:37:06.:37:11.

Throughout the election campaign we'll be taking an in depth look

:37:12.:37:14.

at the key issues that are important to you.

:37:15.:37:16.

Today we're focussing on the economy and we'll be

:37:17.:37:18.

putting your questions live to Paul Johnson

:37:19.:37:21.

from the Institute for Fiscal Studies at 11.30am.

:37:22.:37:24.

You can get in touch via Twitter using the hashtag BBC Ask This

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:37:28.:37:30.

President Trump has been urged to hand over any recordings

:37:31.:37:38.

of conversations between him and sacked FBI director

:37:39.:37:41.

Senior opposition politicians continue to pressure the president

:37:42.:37:47.

over allegations Russia meddled in last year's election.

:37:48.:37:51.

They warn destroying any tapes - if they exist -

:37:52.:37:53.

A father has died after falling while walking with his daughter

:37:54.:38:00.

Rescue workers say the man, who's believed to be

:38:01.:38:04.

from the south of England, slipped on Tryfan in Snowdonia.

:38:05.:38:06.

He was airlifted to hospital where he was pronounced dead.

:38:07.:38:15.

A 101-year-old war veteran from Devon has become

:38:16.:38:17.

the oldest person in the world to complete a skydive.

:38:18.:38:20.

Verdun Hayes - who fought on D-Day - jumped 15,000 feet from a plane,

:38:21.:38:23.

along with three generations of his family yesterday afternoon.

:38:24.:38:25.

He beats the previous record set by a man 35 days younger.

:38:26.:38:37.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 11.00.

:38:38.:38:42.

Hull manager Marco Silva says he will meet with the club before

:38:43.:38:45.

deciding whether to stay following their relegation

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Hull lost 4-0 at Crystal Palace to send them down after just

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They join Middlesbrough and Sunderland in being relegated,

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and after joining in January Silva's yet to commit to the

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Spurs ended 118 years at White Hart Lane with a 2-1 win

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over Manchester United, and then a party, as they head

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to a new stadium just next door after a year at Wembley

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Lewis Hamilton pulled off a stunning passing move to beat

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Ferrari's Sebastian Vettel to the Spanish Grand Prix.

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The Mercedes driver is now just six points behind his rival in the world

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championship standings AND a crash on stage nine derails both

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Geraint Thomas and Adam Yates' chances of contending

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They slipped from podium places to around five minutes behind

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That is all your support for now. Thank you very much.

:39:36.:39:48.

Joanna Lumley stole the show last night winning

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Ant and Dec won two awards - as did BBC One police drama

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Happy Valley - and we picked up an award for our

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And the BAFTA goes to Victoria Derbyshire, footballers abuse.

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This is Louisa, our editor and this is Jo who is on our team.

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This was an interview I did with four men, former footballers,

:40:25.:40:32.

who trusted us enough to talk to our audience about the alleged

:40:33.:40:38.

abuse they experienced as boys, as nine-year-olds, as ten-year-olds,

:40:39.:40:42.

You cannot under estimate the courage it took for them to do

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As a result of what they did, hundreds of other

:40:50.:41:08.

potential victims came forward to the police.

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I'd like to thank our amazing editor and team, but most of all,

:41:12.:41:18.

I'd like to thank Andy Woodward, Chris Unsworth, Stephen Walters

:41:19.:41:23.

and Jason Dunford, thank you very much.

:41:24.:41:28.

That story was only possible thanks to the bravery of Andy Woodward

:41:29.:41:31.

who decided to waive his anonymity to speak out about abuse in football

:41:32.:41:34.

Good morning. Hello. Good morning. You were emotional watching it last

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night? Just a bit. The older and I were on the sofa and I had quite a

:41:51.:41:56.

few tears, to say the least. Did you ever imagine the impact speaking out

:41:57.:42:01.

would have? Not this magnitude, no. I expected some reaction but not the

:42:02.:42:06.

magnitude which has come out so far. I think you are still hearing from

:42:07.:42:14.

other alleged victims who have -- continue to get in touch with you or

:42:15.:42:18.

the police after watching that interview? There are still people

:42:19.:42:23.

speaking out and it has gone up to Scotland as well which has been

:42:24.:42:28.

highlighted recently. There are still people talking about and

:42:29.:42:33.

speaking out. And you are now working on plans to safeguard the

:42:34.:42:37.

protection of children in sport, aren't you? Yes, Victoria. In

:42:38.:42:44.

conjunction with the team, we have a holistic solution that is going to

:42:45.:42:49.

try and change the negative past in football. Recently there have been

:42:50.:42:53.

reports in the papers about players and mental health and well-being, so

:42:54.:42:58.

we have a solution and we will speak to the governing bodies. They have

:42:59.:43:02.

assured us they will do that. I want to change a negative past into a

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positive future for the game because it is the biggest brand in the

:43:07.:43:11.

world, and we want to make sure we protect and safeguard children and

:43:12.:43:16.

obviously help and support players. Thank you, Andy. Victoria, can I

:43:17.:43:24.

just say a quick thing. I want to thank you personally and Louise for

:43:25.:43:28.

the support you have given us ongoing, me and is older, although I

:43:29.:43:31.

threw, and without that I do think we would be in the place that we are

:43:32.:43:37.

now. So thank you to you and the whole show. Bless you. Thank you.

:43:38.:43:41.

So let's talk about some of the other winners of the night.

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So this is so bitter sweet and I'd like to dedicate this to the memory

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of Damilola and his mother Gloria and thank you so much.

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And the BAFTA goes to People Just Do Nothing.

:44:03.:44:16.

Yeah, I've waited ten years to get this award.

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I used to be up here with Ricky Gervais and The Office

:44:19.:44:21.

You know when people come up and say we never expected to win it?

:44:22.:44:27.

The BAFTA goes to the magnificent Sarah Lancashire.

:44:28.:44:31.

Can I just say that Claire Foy you have given me the best ten hours

:44:32.:44:42.

And the BAFTA is awarded to Adeel Akhtar for Murdered By My Father.

:44:43.:44:58.

I'd like to dedicate this award to my wife and my nine month baby

:44:59.:45:03.

who remind me to be kind and compassionate every day.

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The BAFTA Fellowship this year is awarded to Joanna Lumley.

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And I'm standing here with my gorgeous family

:45:15.:45:17.

and my beloved friends and I couldn't be happier.

:45:18.:45:22.

So, all I really want to say is, Jennifer you write it, I just do it.

:45:23.:45:29.

I just want to say actually to you all, you know,

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I asked Joanna Lumley if she'd come on the programme. She has family

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down from Scotland which is fair enough.

:45:55.:46:04.

And the "must see moment", a prize introduced this year,

:46:05.:46:06.

was won by Planet Earth II: Snakes vs Iguana Chase.

:46:07.:46:08.

This scene from the David Attenborough series

:46:09.:46:10.

beat off competition from Ed Balls's Gangnam Style

:46:11.:46:12.

on Strictly Come Dancing and James Corden's Carpool Karaoke

:46:13.:46:14.

DAVID ATTENBOROUGH: A near miraculous escape.

:46:15.:47:12.

Newsbeat's entertainment reporter Sinead Garvan is here.

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Let's start with Planet Either II. When are we going to see Planet

:47:18.:47:26.

Either Three? They take so long to make. The producers were saying that

:47:27.:47:31.

at least five years. At least five years before we'd see anything. So,

:47:32.:47:39.

we're talking a long time. OK. Let's talk about Netflix's most expensive

:47:40.:47:45.

drama The Crown being nominated and coming away? This is a surprise.

:47:46.:47:51.

Claire Foy has won a Golden Globe and everyone was thinking it would

:47:52.:47:55.

be her night and their night and even all The Happy Valley people

:47:56.:48:04.

they were surprised as well and The Crown wrapped up filming season two

:48:05.:48:07.

the night before. They had a big party on the Saturday night. They

:48:08.:48:10.

were ropey on the red carpet yesterday, but I think they were

:48:11.:48:17.

hoping for it. It was a surprise. Danny Dyer was fun? He was the

:48:18.:48:20.

highlight of my evening. He was brilliant. So, we haven't seen much

:48:21.:48:25.

of him since he took time off from EastEnders. It was his public outing

:48:26.:48:31.

and he won with the team from Who Do You Think You Are his episode was

:48:32.:48:37.

incredible. They found out that he's descended from royalty, actually

:48:38.:48:41.

descended. So when he came into the press conference people were like

:48:42.:48:46.

have you met any of the Royals and he's like, "No, mate. I'd like to.

:48:47.:48:52.

I'd like to meet Harry." He's talking about his wife and saying,

:48:53.:48:56.

"Look, you married into this. " It was nice to see him looking well and

:48:57.:49:02.

happy and Joanna lumy, she cheerful. Was so happy and grateful, wasn't

:49:03.:49:07.

she, to be awarded a BAFTA Fellowship which is the highest

:49:08.:49:11.

accolade? Yes, the list of people on there is incredible and she is so

:49:12.:49:16.

gracious as well. A beautiful looking lady, but everything about

:49:17.:49:19.

her and again, she was very funny when she came up to the conference

:49:20.:49:23.

because she couldn't hold the BAFTA and her glass of champagne so she

:49:24.:49:26.

put the BAFTA down and gave it to one of the reporters and carried on

:49:27.:49:31.

with the champagne and someone said "This is about your whole career, is

:49:32.:49:36.

there one character you love more than the others?" She said "I would

:49:37.:49:44.

be lying if I didn't say it was Patsy." She got into character and

:49:45.:49:48.

we had a laugh. It was lovely. Thank you very much, cheers.

:49:49.:49:57.

Some schools in the UK have written to parents warning them

:49:58.:50:00.

about the controversial Netflix drama 13 Reasons Why.

:50:01.:50:02.

The drama, which focuses on teen suicide, is about a schoolgirl

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who kills herself, and leaves behind 13 tapes.

:50:10.:50:11.

Each explaining why she decided to take her life.

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Why didn't you say this to me when I was alive?

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My husband and I, we never got a note.

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Settle in because I'm about to tell you the story of my life.

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And if you're listening to this tape, you're one of the reasons why.

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The programme also includes a graphic depiction of her death,

:51:00.:51:17.

leading to criticism from mental health charities and campaigners.

:51:18.:51:20.

Head teachers are urging parents to have conversations

:51:21.:51:22.

with their children about the issues raised in the programme.

:51:23.:51:31.

One of those is Dr Jack Phillips who is the principal

:51:32.:51:34.

Lorna Fraser is from the Samaritans, and Mel Ciavucco

:51:35.:51:38.

We asked someone from Netflix to take part this morning, but no one

:51:39.:51:48.

was available. Your concerns Dr Phillips? One was

:51:49.:51:55.

about the suicide itself. We were concerned about the roe mant

:51:56.:51:59.

sization of suicide. The young lady in the show leaves an elaborate

:52:00.:52:09.

suicide letter. It is a serious decision to take one's life. We were

:52:10.:52:12.

concerned about the graphic nature of the suicidement if a student were

:52:13.:52:16.

vulnerable that it could increase the chance that they might

:52:17.:52:19.

self-harm. Lorna Frazer, is it irresponsible

:52:20.:52:24.

this programme? Well, ideally the story could have been presented in

:52:25.:52:27.

quite a different way. Does that mean, yes, it is? It does roe mant

:52:28.:52:34.

size the idea of suicide. Suicide... And that's a bad thing? Yeah, it is.

:52:35.:52:38.

I mean, there is lots of research that's been carried out across the

:52:39.:52:42.

whole world actually over about the last five decades that shows that

:52:43.:52:51.

portraying suicide in a way that could romantacie the idea can be

:52:52.:52:55.

linked to further suicides so we'd rather a story like this be covered

:52:56.:52:58.

in a more responsible way and certainly it's not that we're saying

:52:59.:53:03.

that it shouldn't be uncovered because that's unhelpful too and I

:53:04.:53:06.

think something that this does demonstrate is there is an appetite,

:53:07.:53:12.

not only within the target audience being young people, but with parents

:53:13.:53:15.

that there is an appetite for these things to be talked about and drama

:53:16.:53:20.

can be used as a very effective vehicle if you like to do those

:53:21.:53:26.

things. But the important thing is that when producers are putting

:53:27.:53:30.

something like this together, to be aware of the risks and to seek

:53:31.:53:35.

advice from experts like Samaritans, we have our guidelines, we do lots

:53:36.:53:39.

of training and educational work. We advice on scripts. So, you know, to

:53:40.:53:43.

get that expert advice to make sure that you covered the topic sensibly

:53:44.:53:48.

and responsibly. Mel, tell us why you're hooked to

:53:49.:53:52.

this programme? Well, I just loved it from the start. I just, I got

:53:53.:53:58.

sucked into it. There is a lot of Netflix TV shows which are binge

:53:59.:54:03.

watchy, but I realise it does get very difficult to watch at the end.

:54:04.:54:08.

I found it quite difficult during the graphic scene and I did look

:54:09.:54:12.

away, but that didn't mean that I didn't enjoy the show. I think I was

:54:13.:54:18.

still able to watch it, but sort of just take responsibility for knowing

:54:19.:54:21.

I didn't want to see that part and I think that's the important bit of

:54:22.:54:24.

it. There are warnings before it. There is warning before the episodes

:54:25.:54:29.

and there is also an extra programme at the end explaining the reasons

:54:30.:54:35.

why they chose to film it in the way they did. I think it's important to

:54:36.:54:39.

show it, but I understand the concerns.

:54:40.:54:51.

And the main criticism is it's romantacising somebody taking their

:54:52.:54:54.

own life and that's in the a good thing as you just heard from Lorna

:54:55.:55:00.

from the Samaritans? For instance Train spotting came out in the 1990s

:55:01.:55:07.

and I was a teenager and I wanted to watch it and everybody said no

:55:08.:55:13.

because it gam rises heroin and I didn't want to take heroin

:55:14.:55:18.

afterwards and the scene is brutal in 13 Reasons Why and it needs to be

:55:19.:55:25.

to drive the point home. We wouldn't behaving this conversation if we

:55:26.:55:30.

didn't have this show. Sometimes these extreme methods are needed.

:55:31.:55:33.

How do you respond to what Mel is saying? There are warnings through

:55:34.:55:36.

the programme. There is a programme at the end for anybody who has

:55:37.:55:40.

affected by the issues raised. Is that not enough? As I said it really

:55:41.:55:45.

does highlight the issue that, you know, that the appetite for these

:55:46.:55:50.

things to be talked about. We did actually have conversations with

:55:51.:55:55.

Netflix and based on our advice they put the warnings in, they do sign

:55:56.:56:01.

post viewers to Samaritans in the UK as well and that example that's been

:56:02.:56:05.

put together in the UK including the film as a way of trying to really

:56:06.:56:10.

ground viewers and bring viewers back to the reality that's why it

:56:11.:56:14.

has been covered in this way. That model is actually now being copied

:56:15.:56:21.

across the world so all of the countries where this drama series

:56:22.:56:25.

has been launched... That's really interesting. Samaritans had

:56:26.:56:30.

conversation was Netflix. Yet you're still criticising it because it's

:56:31.:56:34.

still, you believe gam rising it? We have concerns about it because of

:56:35.:56:39.

how it has been presented. I think from our prospective, we didn't make

:56:40.:56:42.

a statement that parents and students shouldn't watch the show.

:56:43.:56:44.

In fact, we've accepted the reality that most of our students have been

:56:45.:56:48.

watching it. We want to encourage where conversations between parents

:56:49.:56:51.

and students and if there is any chance that a student was at risk or

:56:52.:56:56.

a parent had questions, we want to provide them with resources like the

:56:57.:57:02.

work that the Samaritans does or other resources that are online.

:57:03.:57:08.

Mel, no concerns at all? No, I do have concerns. I agree with what's

:57:09.:57:13.

being said and parents need to know the number for Samaritans and

:57:14.:57:16.

charities that they can help talk to their children when talking to their

:57:17.:57:20.

children about it. And they need to, I realise that a lot of kids have

:57:21.:57:24.

probably watched it without their parents knowing and it is a

:57:25.:57:28.

important dialogue to have so the letters being sent out to parents

:57:29.:57:31.

are really helpful in that sense. OK. Thank you. Thank you very much,

:57:32.:57:36.

Mel. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

:57:37.:57:48.

And if you or know someone who may need help,

:57:49.:57:54.

You can call them on 116 123 or visit their website

:57:55.:57:58.

It's a completely confidential service.

:57:59.:58:01.

Police have begun a search of garages to try to find the body of a

:58:02.:58:08.

schoolgirl who went missing in 2001. They're looking for Danielle Jones.

:58:09.:58:13.

This is according to the head of Kent and Essex serious crime.

:58:14.:58:17.

They're searching garages in thor ruck. They say it is a credible line

:58:18.:58:22.

of inquiry. Thank you very much for your company today. We're back

:58:23.:58:25.

tomorrow at 9am. Have a good day. Thank you.

:58:26.:58:33.

Leader of Plaid Cymru Leanne Wood goes on the road with Victoria in the first of our Vic's Van Share series.

As Jeremy Corbyn addresses the Royal College of Nursing's annual conference, we talk to nurses about what they want politicians to do for the NHS.

And former footballer Andy Woodward talks to Victoria. His decision to come forward and speak about the sexual abuse he suffered as a child led to the programme being awarded a Bafta.