23/06/2017 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello it's Friday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Chloe Tilley.

Theresa May puts an offer on the table about three million EU

citizens living in the UK - they will be allowed

I want to give EU citizens certainty but I also want those same rights

for UK citizens living in the European Union.

We'll have all the details and we'll be hearing from EU citizens

It's neither fair, it can't be a serious offer.

We feel it falls short in so many different ways.

As residents in eleven tower blocks in England are told

they may not be safe, we'll ask how many more buildings

could be affected once all the checks are done.

What about your school, your hospital, your leisure centre,

Do you know that's not the same material?

An urgent appeal has been launched to find more black blood donors for

help with those with sickle cell disease. We will speak to two

families of those living with the disease.

Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

We'd love to hear from you if you're an EU national living in the UK.

We're also talking about fire safety this morning.

If your flat is covered in cladding, has your landlord been in touch

Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning -

use the hashtag Victoria Live and if you text, you will be charged

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has described Theresa May's offer to

give European citizens rights after Brexit living in the UK is a good

start. At a summit last night, the Prime Minister said nobody in the UK

lawfully would be forced to leave on the day of Brexit, nor did she want

to split up families. In return the EU would have to operate in parallel

deal for EU nationals. -- offer a camp parable deal -- offer a

comparable deal. A year to the day since the UK

voted to leave the EU, European leaders are digesting

the offer made to them by Theresa May over

dinner at this summit. She said she wanted no families

to split because of Brexit. EU citizens with five years

residents would have settled status, meaning lifetime access to health,

education and benefits. And there will be a grace period

for new arrivals to build up The EU's prime ministers

and presidents made their own proposal on this huge issue

earlier this year. This is the first time they have

heard the British view, and they are waiting for the small

print to be published TRANSLATION: Theresa May made it

clear today that EU citizens who have been in Great Britain

for five years can That's a good start,

but of course, there are many, many other questions about Brexit -

about finances, about the relationship with Ireland -

which means we still have a lot But Mrs May could be

walking into a big row. The EU wants a role for European

judges - she doesn't. They want more rights for families -

she doesn't seem so sure. And that's before a potential

argument that could be even bigger - how much money does the UK

owe the EU? We can speak to our correspondent in

Brussels, David Eades. What's the reaction so far to Theresa May's

proposal? I think it's fair to say that so far it's muted. Interesting

that last night there was no opportunity for discussion at all.

The only comments we got on what Mrs May had to say it were a brief one

from German Chancellor Angela Merkel saying it was a good start but there

was an awful lot of work to be done, and a similarly brief one from the

Austrian Chancellor. He has spoken again this morning to spell out, a

jab in the ribs for Britain, saying Brexit will cost Britain growth and

harm the standard of living. But he did point out it was a good first

start, the offer Theresa May has put on the table. Other than that, not a

huge amount of response, and I don't think that's accidental. It's worth

bearing in mind that while Brexit is obviously the big issue for all of

us in the UK, and all those living in the UK and British living abroad,

there is a message here, and the message coming from the likes of

Angela Merkel and new French president Emmanuel Macron, is that

Brexit an issue we have to deal with, but we have our own fish to

fry, our own problems and opportunities, and this should be

moment of optimism and not pessimism on how people see the EU. Brexit is

here but it's not front and centre in the minds of most of the other 27

EU leaders. David Eades in Brussels. We will be speaking about this

throughout the programme. Annita McVeigh is in the BBC

Newsroom with a summary The government says samples of

cladding from 11 high-rise buildings in England have been found to be

combustible. Safety checks have been carried out because of the Grenfell

Tower fire. The checks across eight council areas including planners,

Manchester and Camden in north London where cladding is being

removed from five tower blocks. It took a tragedy to change

fire safety in Britain. It's so frustrating that we have

been asking for the building regulations to be reviewed every

year, to nothing at all has regulations to be reviewed every

year, and nothing at all has Already, in another London borough,

they are stripping off cladding The cladding here is similar to that

used on Grenfell Tower. Camden Council claims

it was misled, and was told the cladding used on these

buildings was a safer type. The cladding will be a key part

of the investigation Like many other buildings,

its outer skin was an aluminium The best cladding has a mineral

core, which doesn't burn. But the core at Grenfell

was polyethylene, which might have been a factor that caused

the fire to spread. The government says it's now

testing 600 buildings, but there are reviews under way

on privately owned buildings, too. Premier Inn has told the BBC that

three of its hotels did not appear to comply with government guidelines

for tall buildings. The company said it had received

independent expert advice that the hotels could stay open

given other fire safety measures. But many other buildings owned

by others elsewhere could be The Prime Minister,

booed again, on a visit The deadly fire at Grenfell Tower

will change how buildings are built. The political legacy

is still unravelling. The public spending watchdog has

criticised the economic case for the new nuclear power station being

built at Hinkley Point in Somerset. The National Audit Office says

ministers have locked consumers into a risky and expensive project with

uncertain benefits. State-controlled firms in France and China will run

the plant and are paying the ?18 billion construction bill.

A senior police officer has warned forces in England and Wales would

face a real challenges in dealing with large-scale outbreaks of

disorder because of budget cuts. The Chief Constable of the West

Midlands, Dave Thompson, said neighbourhood street patrols would

disappear unless there was fresh investment. Home Secretary Amber

Rudd has acknowledged police resources are very tight but said

she wouldn't rush into releasing extra money.

There is an urgent appeal to find more black blood donors for sickle

cell patients. The NHS Blood and Transplant campaign follows a rise

in the number of people with an African or Caribbean background

being diagnosed with the disease. It's caused by a faulty gene that

effects how red blood cells develop and is particularly common among

black people. The disease affects 15,000 people in the UK and more

than 300 babies are born with it each year.

A former American diplomatic officer has been arrested and charged

with giving top secret defence documents to a Chinese agent.

Kevin Mallory is alleged to have travelled to Shanghai

earlier this year - he told FBI agents he believed

the person he met there was working for a Chinese think tank.

Virgin media has told 800,000 customers to change their passwords

to protect against being hacked. An investigation by Which? Found

hackers could access the provider's super hub two Ruta allowing access

to smart appliances. Virgin media said the risk was small but asked

users to update passwords immediately.

Performances begin on the main stages at

Radiohead lead the line-up exactly 20 years after their first headline

appearance that also includes the veteran American singer,

There is extra security at this year's festival which will open

with a minute's silence this morning, to honour those affected

by the recent tragedies in London and Manchester.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9:30.

Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged

Let's get some sport now with John - and there's been more success

for England's young footballers - it's becoming a bit

I think the senior side will certainly be looking at the relative

success the younger teams have been having because it's been a great few

months for English football. The U17s side reached the final of the

European Championships. Then the U20s won the under 20 World Cup in

two weeks ago. And now the U21s have reached the semifinals of the

European Championships following a 3-0 victory over Poland last night.

They haven't reached the semifinal since 2009. Relative success across

the board. Demarai Gray got the England opener after six minutes

last night. Norwich's Jacob Murphy. The second. Lewis Baker got a third

from the penalty spot. You have to say, definite signs of progress

across the board in English football. As English football fans

we get excited and get ahead of ourselves. We ask if it's a new Iraq

for in this football, but it maybe it's just the journalists. It's

always easy to get carried away when we see success in a national teams,

but what's significant here is the weights across the board across the

age groups. -- is the way it's across the board. Let's look at some

of the reaction following the 3-0 victory. Chelsea player Nathaniel

Chalobah who played last night, did. Tammy Abraham, also of Chelsea, said

to be signing for Swansea on loan was on the substitutes bench last

night but has been significant in the performances so far...

Some debate about who would take the penalty for the third goal last

night! Good to see young players taking responsibility. And David

James, the former England goalkeeper offered his congratulations.

We will wait to see who they face. There are still big teams left in,

Spain and Germany among the favourites. If we look at the senior

side, what impact will it have? Will it affect Gareth Southgate's plans?

Significant to hear what Gareth Southgate had to Saint following the

success of the U20s when they won the World Cup. He said it's down to

the top sides in the Premier League to give young players opportunities.

He will point to the success of Saint Georges Park, as will be FA,

the National Centre of footballing excellence where all the young

players go through. Signs that the development of young players is

working at the fantastic site in Burton upon Trent. What's key is the

often point to some of the failings that senior players have had,

certainly in the latter stages of tournaments. What is key here is

that big tournament experience for younger players at each age group,

playing in big games at the latter stages of tournaments will serve

them well when they potentially make the move up to the senior team. Big

tournament experience counts and at the moment these young players

certainly have it. We will catch up with John again in around half an

hour. So, exactly a year to the day

since Britain voted to leave the European Union, Theresa May has

given more details on the rights of EU citizens living

in the UK after Brexit. Any EU citizen who's been

here for five years or more They'll have a new

immigration status. access to education,

healthcare and other benefits. Mrs May told fellow leaders

that the offer would apply only if the EU offered a reciprocal

deal for British expats. It's thought around three

million EU citizens living Well, there's yet more talking this

morning but initially, the plans have been given a cautious

welcome by EU leaders, with the German chancellor

Mrs Merkel describing them A short time ago, Theresa May said

that this was a fair and serious offer that would offer comfort to EU

citizens living in the UK. Last night, I was pleased to be able

to set out what is a very fair and serious offer for EU citizens

living in the United Kingdom, and the government will set out

more detailed proposals on Monday. I want to reassure all those

EU citizens who are in the UK, who have made their lives and homes

in the UK, that no one We won't be seeing

families split apart. I want to give those EU citizens in

the UK certainty about the future of their lives, but I also want to see

that certainty given to UK citizens Of course, there will be details

of this arrangement, which will be part of the negotiating process,

but we have made what I believe is a very serious and fair offer

that will give reassurance and confidence to EU citizens living

in the United Kingdom Anne-Laure Donskoy is the founding

member of The3Million - the grassroots organisation set up

to lobby the government to protect the rights of EU citizens living

in the UK. She told me of her disappointment

at Theresa May's statement. We feel it's a really disappointing

statement. It's neither fair, it can't be a serious offer. We feel it

falls short in so many different ways. It doesn't give any indication

of our full indivisible rights being protected. It also doesn't talk

about the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice that would

act as an arbiter in terms of our rights during the withdrawal of the

Article 50 agreement. What Theresa May is saying is if you have been

here five years or more, you would be able to stay and have full

benefits as an EU citizen in this country. It doesn't say that at all.

What it says and what it mentions is if you have been here lawfully,

which leaves potentially a lot of people out, because a lot of people

currently do not meet permanent resident status. Not only because

they haven't been here for five years, but because they don't mean

certain criteria that is in contradiction with EU legislation.

Like who, for example? People who might not know about it because it

wasn't advertised. That would include a lot of students. Stay at

home mothers and fathers, for instance. People who are deemed

self-sufficient. A number of retired people. People in self-employment,

some categories. Theresa May also saying that if you haven't been here

for those five years, you can build up those rights and be here for a

shorter period of time, but you can still build up the rights to be able

to stay. So people have the opportunity to ensure they can stay,

even if they arrive now. We don't know what the new rules

will be. As usual, the devil will be in the detail. At the moment, the

statement is quite vague and we need to see what the detail will be in

order to make a proper judgment. When you have spoken to people, your

organisation, representing people here in Britain, what are the

concerns they have? What is it they want to hear to put their minds at

rest? They want certainty. This does not offer certainty. The statement

talks about certainty, but then, in the next point or so, it talks about

aiming to be able to offer those rights. So when you are aiming, you

cannot offer certainty. You have got a meeting, haven't you, with civil

servants, and with the Brexit secretary David Davis next week,

what are you going to be saying and what do you want to hear in return?

It is just a technical meeting, so we will be looking at some aspects

of the potential for a registration scheme that has been mentioned this

week. Although we want to know more about it, what are the motivations

behind it, for what purpose, because having just a registration scheme on

its own means nothing. And as we know, there will be more details

announced about this proposal on Monday, probably Monday morning. But

what the statement does is give an indication of the direction of

travel, potentially. If what is in there, which we can read us

potentially, because there are two little words in there, which are

really important, settled status. Settled status as a precise meaning

in law. In this case, it means that we would be, potentially, we don't

know yet, but it sounds like we could be treated in the future as

third country nationals, and this is why we are saying that this is not

fair, because we came here under a completely different set of rules.

If I came to the UK as a non-EU person, I would expect to be treated

as a third country national. However, I didn't. We did not.

Therefore, all of a sudden, all our acquired rights will be gone.

Alexandrine Kantor was born in France and made her life

She works as an electrical engineer in Oxford.

Good to speak to you today. Theresa May was saying she wants to give

certainty to people like you. Do you feel this announcement has given you

that certainty? Not at all, because I don't have five years requirement,

and I even don't know if I am OK with that status. And most

important, I don't know if I will be OK with that new immigration system.

I don't really know what will happen. Tell us about your personal

situation here, how this has affected you. I arrived in the UK

three years ago. I moved into the Oxford area. I work as an electrical

engineer for the UK Government, and I have a finance plan with my car, I

cannot break it for three years, I have a mortgage that I cannot break

for the next two years, and it is on 35 years. I am here on my own, so I

have no family here, so I really love my job. I really love my

family. I have my finance commitments, and I feel like I am

stuck here on Theresa May. I am anxious. You sound very emotional.

It is emotional because I am not sure if I did the correct career

choices. I know that I am helping my new country because I am feeding a

shortage of skills, they don't have enough electrical engineers. On a

personal point of view, was it a very good choice to come? I don't

regret, but I am left in limbo, and I don't know if I am in the middle

of a situation that I didn't have a fault, I didn't choose and nobody

warned me. What effect has this had on you in the last year? It is a

year to date since the Brexit referendum, how tough has that year

been for you? It's tough because in some point, I lost my Nan, so I had

money to buy a house, but I postponed because I wanted to know

what would happen to me. I postponed, but I didn't have any

answer from the government. So at some point, I said, I can put my

whole life spendings On Hold. I did, but life goes on. I am committing to

that house, and now we have an offer and it is not generous at all. Now I

feel like I am stuck. My family in Europe doesn't really understand me,

because we thought that it could never happen in Europe. It is just

now... I just don't... I did maybe some bad choice... I don't know. Do

you have friends here in the UK who are also from France or other parts

of the EU? I wonder how they have been feeling over the last year and

whether you have spoken to them about this latest proposal. Yes, I

work in a very international research centre, so it is quite full

of Europeans. Some of us decide to go abroad. They want to leave the

UK. Some want to stay, but they are not very confident. Some want to

leave, yeah. What would your message be to Theresa May? My message to

Theresa May is, you are just going to trade people to gain some

economical deal. We are humans, human beings, we are British

friends, colleagues, the situation doesn't only affect us, it affects

the British citizens, they need to be protected, they need to have

their family with them. And the economy needs the EU workers. EU

citizens are contributing, it is just not fair and it's not serious,

and it's definitely not generous at all. Thank you for speaking to us

today. I appreciate your time. Breaking news, Jean-Claude Juncker

has said that Britain's preliminary offer on the status of EU citizens

in the UK after it leaves the block is not sufficient. As we went into

the second day of EU summit, he was asked if he had a clearer idea if he

knew what kind of Brexit the British Government wanted. He answered that

he had a brisk and emphatic no. Theresa May told the summit on

Thursday that any EU citizen that had been in the UK for five years

would have two be given a new immigration status, which will give

them access to education, health care and other benefits. But as we

have heard from our guests, concerns about there being no meat on the

bones of the offer. Let's bring in Ian Watson, our political

correspondent. The two guests we have spoken to spoke on the heart

about how worried they are about their future. Alexandrina said there

is no certainty from Theresa May, despite what the Prime Minister has

told people. Tell us what we know, what is concrete about this

proposal? I am wondering if Ian can't hear us now. Ian, can you hear

us? That is frustrating, because he is only down in Westminster. We will

try to re-establish that. We will talk about this story throughout the

programme here. If you want to get in touch, if you are an EU citizen

in the UK, get in touch with us, Dave facelock says, I have no issue

with people that pay their way. Working migrants having enriched our

country and helped us to prosper, and Michael has e-mailed to say it

is already enshrined in law that any foreign citizen who has illegally

entered the UK can apply for indefinitely to remain. This is not

an offer by Mrs May, she cannot stop it happening unless she changes the

law. She is offering nothing. Still to come:

As the government finds 11 buildings with combustible

cladding across England, we'll be asking some of their

And, the NHS wants more black blood donors to come forward to treat

the fastest growing genetic disease in the UK.

We'll be discussing the rise in sickle cell cases.

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of todays news.

the German Chancellor Angela Merkel has described Theresa May's offered

to guarantee rights or EU citizens living in Britain after Brexit as a

good start at a summit in Brussels last night. But one minister said

that no one in the UK lawfully would be forced to leave on the day of

Brexit, but in return, the EU would have to offer a comparable deal for

British National 's. I want to reassure all those

EU citizens who are in the UK, who have made their lives and homes

in the UK, that no one We won't be seeing

families split apart. I want to give those EU citizens in

the UK certainty about the future of their lives, but I also want to see

that certainty given to UK citizens Of course, there will be details

of this arrangement, which will be part of the negotiating process,

but we've made what I believe is a very serious and fair offer

that will give reassurance and confidence to EU citizens

living in the United Kingdom In the last few moments, we have

heard from the president of the European Commission Jean-Claude

Juncker in response to the proposals from the UK. Mr Juncker saying they

are a first step, but that step isn't sufficient. More for you on

that through the morning. 11 residential high-rise buildings in

England have been found to be covered in combustible cladding

during urgent safety tests carried out after the Grenfell Tower fire.

The buildings are spread across eight local authority areas,

including Camden in North London. Cladding is being removed from fire

tower blocks. Premier Inn has revealed its concern that cladding

on three of its hotels don't meet government guidance. The public

spending watchdog has criticised the economic case for the new nuclear

power station being built at Hinkley Point in Somerset. The National

Audit Office says ministers have locks consumers into a risky and

expensive project with uncertain benefits. State-controlled firms in

France and China will run the plant and are paying the ?18 billion

construction Bill. Virgin media has told 800,000 customers to change

their passwords to protect against being hacked. An investigation by

Which Centres Back Found That Hackers Could Access Their Routers.

Virgin Media Said The Risk Was Small, but advised customers using

default network and food passwords to update them immediately.

Performances will begin on the main stages at the Glastonbury Festival.

Radiohead lead the line up 20 years after their first appearance.

also includes the veteran American singer,

There is extra security at this year's festival which will open

with a minute's silence this morning, to honour those affected

England's under 21 team reached the semifinals of the U20s European

Championships. They beat Poland 3-0. Demarai Gray got the opening goal.

The U20s recently won the World Cup a little under two weeks ago. In

Rugby, Wales ended their to test summer tour on a high with a victory

over Samoa. They beat Tonga in their opening tour match. Johanna Konta

was hugely devastated after being knocked out of the Aegon classical

stop she lost in straight sets. She said afterwards that just because

I'm number seven in the world doesn't mean I'm entitled to win

every match. In cricket, they are saying farewell to a true great of

broadcasting. Henry Blofeld is hanging up his microphone after 20

years in the job. If anyone is not familiar with his work on Test match

special, where have you been? His voice is some must with the sport

and he will be missed. 11 tower blocks in eight

local authority areas in England including Plymouth,

Manchester and Camden in north London have been found to have

cladding which could catch fire. About 600 buildings with cladding

are being checked as a result of the Grenfell Tower disaster last

week, in which at Meanwhile, the BBC has learned that

Premier Inn is "extremely concerned" about cladding on three

of its hotels. Just remind us what kind

of cladding talking about? The first thing to say is not all

cladding will be affected by this. The way cladding works, you have two

metal sheets on the outside of the building. In the Grenfell Tower they

were aluminium. Another material is sandwiched between those sheets and

it's that sensual sandwich filler material which is controversial. In

the case of Grenfell they used a particular brand

The brand used at Grenfell was something called Reynobond.

Three different types with different levels of flammability.

The government guidance appears to say it should only be

using this one above 18 metres - the most fire retardant.

that is the height fire ladders can go to.

At Grenfell we believe - although not confirmed -

And some believe that could have been one reason why the fire

Presumably one not just talking about tower blocks. It ends up being

a bit misleading. They came out to say there were 600 tower blocks

across England that could be affected. The 600 figure is the

total number cladding in some way. They are working at how many of the

600 have the more flammable form of cladding on. So far they have said

11 but they are doing 100 tests per day, so we can expect to see the

number go up over the weekend. The pictures are from Camden yesterday

where they were taking some panels down already. They found out they

were the more combustible type. The Council Bear said big desperately

cancel there said they were surprised because they thought they

had ordered the more safe version. We thought we were dealing

with reputable companies and we feel let down,

and our tenants feel let down. My absolute priority is to make

sure our tenants feel safe which is why we are putting in safe

24/7 fire wardens and why we are reacting quickly to take

down those extra panels. What happens now? More checks going

on over the weekend. Sample is being sent from council buildings, housing

associations, to the company that has been commissioned by the

government to test fire samples. But there are plenty of private

buildings across the country that will be higher than 18 metres with

cladding attached. The BBC Newsnight programme last night reporting that

Premier Inn says it's very concerned about three of its sites in

Maidenhead, Brentford and Tottenham that it says they do not seem to

apply for government guidance for tall buildings, but they don't

appear to be the version as at Grenfell Tower, slightly more flame

retardant. There are other forms of accommodation, student flats have

gone the cross country recent times. In the meantime, police are carrying

out a criminal investigation as to what happened at Grenfell itself. We

expect to hear more in the next 24 hours over the cladding at that

building, from the police, about whether it was illegal or not in

their minds. That will be significant when it comes through

this afternoon or tomorrow morning. Let's speak now to Nigel Rumble,

who lives in a tower block on the Chalcots estate in Camden

where the north London council says it is going to remove cladding

from five blocks of flats including Graham Worrall, who lives in a nine

storey building in Salford and tests are being done

on the cladding of his building and others in the area to see

if it is similar to that of Grenfell Nigel, thank you for coming in. This

must be an incredibly worrying time, not just for you, but everybody

living in your plot. It's been a terrible time. I have spoken to many

people and many people have spoken to me on the way, and people,

especially higher up in the building, I had one lady, a family

of three, and she has told me the day after the fire that she hasn't

been able to get any sleep at all because she was actually from the

19th floor overlooking the Grenfell Tower. She could see the fire and

see the flames. Next day she found out what it was she was seeing and

how much death she was witnessing. She hasn't been able to sleep. It's

been very painful and there have been many typical stories like this.

I have had some sleepless nights and have been so dreadfully upset for

what has happened over there. In the context of, we felt on our estate

that the work carried out was never done to the highest standards. I

want to bring in Graham as well. I'm keen for you both to discuss this.

At the moment you don't know about the cladding on the side of your

building, but that must be worrying in itself. That's correct. Since the

fire in London, myself and quite a few of the tenants have been rather

concerned regarding fire safety and what kind of cladding has been put

up on the outside of the building after the refurbishment. Quite a few

vulnerable tenants are really concerned and need to be reassured

about the whole fire safety procedure, what's in place, what are

the council doing and what are the local authority doing? What is the

housing association doing? I'm interested to know what both of you

have been told, whether it's from your landlord or the people who

maintain the building, about the cladding. Graham, were you ever told

anything about the cladding before it went up? Nothing at all. We

weren't told what kind of cladding was going to be put up. What kind of

insulation would be installed behind the cladding. It was a complete

refurbishment of the whole block. It was part of a PFI project. We have

been informed the cladding is aluminium ACM that was fitted

correctly according to the manufacturers specification and

assessed by an independent expert. That's the information we have had

from our landlord. Nigel, have you had much information since Camden

Council decided to take the cladding off your building. How much have you

been told? The day after the fire there was a reaction from the leader

of Camden Council. And the Cabinet member for housing of Camden

Council, who wrote to all the residents explaining they would

start investigations and there would be tests. Yesterday a letter was

published to everybody on the estate. It was hand dropped, so it

arrived through everybody's letterboxes. The letter did confirm

that we had exactly the same cladding that was used at Grenfell.

That was a shock to stop it was the third paragraph of the letter and it

stated that it was exactly the same material with the polyethylene

plastic composite in the centre. That was the confirmation. They said

they would set about to remove the panels over the forthcoming weeks. I

was going to ask how long it would take, it is weeks? This is the

interesting point. Camden offices, principally councillors, not

technical experts, they obviously need to be advised by experts, so

they have given their best opinion, which is that it needs to come down.

The expert opinion, it needs to come down and be replaced by safe

material. That's what we as the residents want and demand. However,

five tower blocks, and just to paint a proper perspective here, when the

work was done originally in 2006, 2007 and 2008, the work for one

building took eight months. To get the equipment ordered, to do the

work, and that was to install it. To change it, and I am not an expert,

but I do have an informed opinion, it will take months, not weeks. It

will be a long process. To do all five tower blocks, you are probably

looking at at least a minimum of one year to do the work. To read you

some of the comments coming in this morning. Chris says he lives in

Woolwich in south-east London, a low-rise seven story block. The

landlord is PA Housing Association. We were told yesterday our homes

meet all current fire safety standards, even though there are no

fire extinguishers in tenants homes or communal areas and no fire

alarms, no sprinklers in homes or communal areas. Single stairwells.

Nigel got in touch and he used to live in a tower block in Maidenhead.

The council decided to demolish it in 1995. While still in residence

they boarded up the fire escapes. Only after hours on the phone debate

remove the boarding. Going forward, Graham, what are the conversations

you are having with people in your block? Do they feel safe to be there

right now? As I said earlier, there are quite a few vulnerable tenants,

disabled, partially sighted tenants and families with young children. We

need to know and be reassured about what we need to do. We need an

answer. What kind of cladding it is. The main thing is, the tenants need

to be reassured that the Housing executives and the local authority

leaders are being fully compliant with the health and safety

regulation and fire safety guidelines. And consultation with

the Fire Service leaders has been sought and gained prior to the

renovations commencing in Salford. It's ultimately what you both said,

it's having that reassurance and knowing the truth and being able to

make an informed decision. Thank you both for taking the time to speak to

us this morning. Local groups in West London

are still working hard to support those caught up in the fire,

especially vulnerable children. Dale Youth boxing club

was based in the tower. It's helped nurture dozens

of champions at all levels including Olympic gold medal winner

James DeGale and current world Now, some of its boxers have

returned to show their support. Dale Youth Amateur

Boxing Club is famed. It has produced boxing

stars like James de Gale. It is now homeless and today

is about fundraising and giving some of the boys who practised

there a chance to I'm currently the British

super flyweight champion. I used to go down Dale Youth

when I was younger. I used to go down there

sparring with a lot of boys. I have some great

memories down there. To come and see what has actually

happened, to look at it They've lost their gym,

and some of these kids, I met someone today actually

who lived up the seventh floor When you meet people like that

and they actually do tell you their story,

until you meet somebody you do not realise how bad and how

unfortunate they were, but like I said he is

lucky to have got out. They were a big part

of this community. We have been here at least

30 years I would say. It is important for everybody

to recognise that we were We have been made homeless

through the tragedy. Your club has produced

some real talent, right? Yeah, we have produced a lot

of talent over the years. Obviously the biggest ones

are James DeGale and Georgie Groves. Many a fighter has come

through and we have the new ones So hopefully some of these might

follow in their footsteps. Are you guys going to be boxers?

Yeah, I'm a boxer. Yeah?

Yeah. You train more, you train hard,

you have to beat someone. I am a two time national

schoolboy champion. How do you feel about

the building that had the fire? I was sad, yeah.

Very sad. We have come to train

but we are going to make a new Dale Youth boxing club

and we are going to train hard. Yeah, I'm 19 years old,

I've been boxing for How has it been for you

watching what happened? Yeah, it's sad watching the news,

a lot of memories in that building. My friend was filming

the actual thing at 1am and that is when I saw

it, and I found out it You can hear Gabriel in the

background, we will talk to him in the next few minutes about sickle

cell. Pendleton together, which maintains a number of high-rise

blocks in Yorkshire, Lancashire and Pendleton, including the one that

Graham Worrell lives in. They have sent a statement. We would like to

ensure all our customers and nearby residents that we are doing

everything possible to ensure they are protected and kept safe. We are,

however, as a precaution, double-checking all procedures today

and over the coming weeks. We will reissue fire safety advice to our

customers. An urgent appeal has been launched

to find more black blood donors The NHS Blood and Transplant

campaign follows a rise in the number of people

within the black community If patients don't receive blood

which has a close enough match, then there is a risk that they can

suffer reactions to the donated blood or develop additional

antibodies which will make it harder to find matching

blood in the future. We can speak now to Edith Victoria

and her four-year-old son Gabriel who has sickle cell.

Davinia Caballero, who we just saw in our film, who also

She is co-director of SickleKan, a London

And Nadine Eaton from NHS Blood and Transplant.

While Gabriel sits down and we get settled, let's look at the story of

sickle cell disease. There is the bone pain,

which is in the bone, and painkillers will numb the pain

or probably take the pain away You have to distract

yourself from it. And then there's the pain

where you can have pain that's the worst crisis

I've ever had, the lungs. It's like a stabbing pain and it

vibrates through your whole body You can't concentrate on anything.

It's a pain... There are many times I have

made my mum cry because I have said I don't want to be here no more.

I want to be out of this world. If this is what life is,

I don't want it. These are my two

blood pressure tablets. Because when I'm going

through a sickle cell crisis, my blood pressure tends

to rise because my body is under intense pain,

so this is just to keep my blood My folic acid, which increases

the red blood cell production, because sickle cell patients,

our red blood cells only last for ten days, compared to normal red

blood cells which last for 120 days. This just increases

the production of the blood cells. This is because

our immune systems are very low so it is like an antibiotic that

boosts the immune system. Because...?

Because you are sickle cell? Go on, because of your...

Sickle cell. Edith, I want to talk to you about

Gabriel's condition. You found out he had sickle cell disease when he

was only a few weeks old. I knew I had the sickle cell trait is. My

genotype is AS. If the other parent has the same genotype, AS, the child

can take the S from both parents, meaning the child will have sickle

cell. It came as a surprise, and I think that the NHS have been amazing

with regards to how they have sort of explain how we need to take care

of a child that has sickle cell disease. Although I knew I had a

sickle cell trait, I had no knowledge about the disorder. What

effect does it have, Gabriel was wandering around, and he seems like

a happy, normal little boy, how does it affect his life? We have to take

a lot of extra care with him. Things like the cold are bad for him. He

has to stay hydrated, meaning he is constantly drinking, meaning that

through the night, the kidneys may function slightly differently. There

is bedwetting that will continue until later than with other

children. Extreme temperature changes could cause a crisis. He

could fall and hurt himself, that could cause a crisis. His most

recent crisis, the one that saw him go to hospital and require a blood

transfusion and a blood exchange, they can't work out, the nursery,

what exactly happened. He was playing fine. The everything we can

assume is that he actually got completely exhausted from playing.

Gabriel, as you are wandering past me, do you sometimes feel poorly?

No? You always feel well? You can guarantee four-year-olds will

disagree with mum. I've grown up and I'm not sick. That is good to hear,

we want you to stay well. I want to bring into Vienna as well. You also

have sickle cell disease, and am I right, you are having a kidney

transplant next week? Yeah, my brother David is giving me a kidney

next week. I have been on dialysis for a year now. The thing about it,

I never knew growing up, it could affect your kidneys or organ

failure, it was not something I was aware of. I found out in 2013 that

there is a possibility I would have to have a transplant in my life.

What we are hearing is there need to be more black blood donors to come

forward. You have both said you did not know much about it, would you

say that there is a lack of understanding within the black

community, I hate that community, but you know what I mean? There is a

lack of awareness, SickleKan is a charity formed by myself and the

guy, Kenny, in the video, and we decided that awareness is needed

from the patient's side of view. They don't understand the pain we go

through, the difference in being able to live an ordinary life, it is

not easy for us. It is spreading awareness and getting it out there.

People may decide they can help and donate blood. Please do. Madine, how

important as this? We need more donors to come forward to donate in

the next couple of years. We have seen a 75% increase in RO blood.

There is an urgent need for people to come forward. What is the best

way, first of all, tell... Hello, lovely. Be careful not to fall over

or you will get me in trouble. Come and sit down next to me. Or you can

perch on the edge. Just be careful. I am interested in what you think,

but what is the NHS doing to engage people so black blood donors come

forward and give blood? I am interested to know if you think that

is the right strategy. Working with charities like SickleKan, also

working with MOBO, working with artists such as Lady Leash, we are

doing advertising on Facebook and Instagram. And we are doing

educational talks, going to events where we know more of the back

population will be attending. It is outreach, but there is more work to

be done. What do you think? The work the NHS is doing at the moment is

great. Black people do need to realise that you shouldn't have to

wait until something affects you before you come forward and make a

blood donation. It is something that should be part of your everyday

routine. You can donate up to four times in a year. You should put that

into your diary, likely would put into a diary a birthday. These blood

donations are vital for cancer treatment, leukaemia treatments,

and... He has seen you on the TV. Isn't it cool to see mum on TV, is

that good? ! People need to realise that these blood donations save 70

people. One blood donation can save up to seven babies, six children,

and be used on three adults. You could be saving someone's life

without realising. It actually costs you nothing. It is a painless

procedure. It takes less than an hour of your time from the moment

you walk in to make the donation until the moment you leave. You

leave feeling fine and there is no reason why so many healthy people

over the age of 17 aren't registered, they should be

registered on that register. Divina, you said you have your kidney

transplant next week, an incredible gesture from your brother, you look

pretty well, and I am sure that does not help because I know you are very

unwell. Do you feel that people don't really understand? Exactly.

They see you looking healthy, and think you are not sick. That is what

is horrible about it, it is an invisible illness, you can't see

what is going on inside. If it wasn't for blood donations, I

wouldn't be here now. I have one on Monday to prepare me for my

operation, so I don't have a crisis on the operation table. It is

important the black community get out and support us. If they know how

it does affect us and how important it is to donate blood, they will

support us. If they can see from the tales I share through social media,

get up and out and help. It is getting the main media to push us

out there, because there is a stigma in the black community about sickle

cell. Some of us are ashamed. Because we go through so much, I

have had pain everywhere you can think of, I have lost a spleen, a

gall bladder, I have had a written detachment, get blood leaks. You

don't know what you are going to get from one day to the other, so it is

important they support us, because if a dog, who will? If you don't see

Gabriel this morning and what to help, I don't know what will.

Gabriel, thank you for coming in. You are done now. You don't want to

go now? Always the way. Thank you for coming in.

Coming up, we live at New Scotland Yard as the police give more details

the fire at Grenfell Tower in London.

Let's get the latest weather update - with Matt Taylor.

What a week of weather in the UK, we have seen extreme heat for those in

the south-east of the country, temperatures peaking short of 35

degrees. Severe storms across parts of Europe, Central Europe in

particular. A stormy night last night. For us, it is hitting the

reset button for summer. Temperatures back closer to where

they should be for this time of year. It has been a lovely start for

one or two. The sun is still there. The scene in Hackney earlier, clear

blue skies. But for others, more typical of summer, we have seen rain

falling. In Southport and Blackpool, we have seen scenes more like this.

Raining heavily at the moment. The rain is coming courtesy of a

riverfront introducing fresh air towards the UK for this weekend.

Even fresher than this morning. This zone of cloud, right across the

central swathe of the UK, top and tail, sunshine to start the day.

Northern Scotland not too bad, southern part of England. Cloud but

sunshine breaking through. These areas dry and bright. The heaviest

rain is in north-west England, pushing into western parts of Wales

into the afternoon. Whilst we have patchy rain and drizzle across parts

of southern Scotland and Northern Ireland, that will be limited to the

far south east of Northern Ireland by the end of the afternoon. Dry and

sunny spells. Present with a breeze, East Scotland could hit 20 Celsius

this afternoon. But it stays grey, parts of northern England, to be

high ground, and Cheshire, a few breaks in cloud and sunshine. Rain

and drizzle at times, particularly in the Pennines. Wet across western

Wales, eastern Wales should stay dry. South east midlands into East

Anglia, cloud with sunshine, temperatures in the low 20s. We

could get that at Glastonbury today. Most of the time, drive this

weekend, but on Saturday this is when we could see a little bit of

rain. It wouldn't be Glastonbury without this forecast. The rain

edging southwards, fairly fragmented, producing damp

conditions towards the Southwest approaches, including Glastonbury.

Monkey tonight across southern areas, fresher in the North with

clearer skies, but turning increasingly windy. That is another

story this weekend. Unseasonably windy weather of Scotland. Severe

gales with the low pressure, gale force winds through the central belt

of Scotland. Sunshine and showers here, Northern Ireland. Northern

England will brighten up after a cloudy and damp start. We could see

showers across the South, including a damp start a customary.

Temperatures in the low 20s in the south-east. Elsewhere, dropping

down, lower for this time of year. The breeze will be with us on

Sunday, north-east in particular. Sunday, one or two showers in the

west, Central and eastern areas will be dry. Enjoy your weekend.

It's Friday at 10am. Good morning. And you plan to allow about 3

million EU citizens living in the UK to stay here after Brexit.

I really love my job, I love my family.

I have my financial commitments, and I feel like I'm

stuck here on the will of Theresa May.

I want to give those EU citizens in the UK certainty about the future of

their lives and I also want to see that certainty given to UK citizens

living in the European Union. We will have the latest reaction from

Westminster and Brussels. We will be live at Scotland Yard as the police

give more details about the fire at Grenfell Tower in London. And we

will talk to a panel of experts about how tenants in other blocks

can be kept safe. When mum goes to prison -

we've been given rare access inside of one of America's prisons

taking part in a pioneering scheme to give locked-up women the support

to see their children. Here's Annita McVeigh

in the BBC Newsroom Britain's preliminary offer

on the rights of EU citizens in the UK after Brexit has been

described as insufficient by the president of the European

Commission. The prime minister has said that

no-one in the UK lawfully would be forced to leave on the day

of Brexit, but, in return, the EU would have to offer

a comparable deal for British I want to reassure all those

EU citizens who are in the UK, who have made their lives and homes

in the UK, that no one We won't be seeing

families split apart. I want to give those EU citizens in

the UK certainty about the future of their lives, but I also want to see

that certainty given to UK citizens Of course, there will be details

of this arrangement, which will be part of the negotiating process,

but we've made what I believe is a very serious and fair offer

that will give reassurance and confidence to EU citizens

living in the United Kingdom The government says samples

of cladding from 11 high-rise buildings in England have been found

to be combustible. Safety checks have been carried out

because of the Grenfell Tower fire. The The buildings across eight

council areas including Plymouth, Manchester and Camden in north

London where cladding is being Premier Inn has also revealed the

cladding on three of its hotels doesn't meet government guidance.

A senior police officer has warned forces in England and Wales

would face a real challenges in dealing with large-scale

outbreaks of disorder because of budget cuts.

The Chief Constable of the West Midlands, Dave Thompson,

said neighbourhood street patrols would disappear unless there

The government said it will not rush into the leasing additional money.

Virgin Media has told 800,000 customers to change their passwords

An investigation by Which? found that hackers could access

the provider's Super Hub 2 router, allowing access

Virgin Media said the risk was small but advised customers using default

network and router passwords to update them immediately.

Performances begin on the main stages at

Radiohead lead the line-up exactly 20 years after their first headline

appearance that also includes the veteran American singer,

There is extra security at this year's festival which will open

with a minute's silence this morning, to honour those affected

by the recent tragedies in London and Manchester.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10:30.

English football is enjoying a run of relative success

after the England U21s reached the semifinals of the

It follows the U20s victory at the World Cup and then the U17s

who made the final of the Euros back in May.

Not often you have success right across the board all at once,

but fair to say, it's all going well for the Young Lions.

The Under 21s reached the last four of the Euros,

after a pretty comfortable win over the hosts Poland.

Demarai Gray hit a cracking opener, with Jacob Murphy and Lewis Baker,

To think it's only two weeks since the Under

We're definitely getting stronger, you know?

The higher we get, the more important the games are.

The boys have been in important games before.

We had the Toulon Tournament where we won.

We are used to playing in important matches.

It's fantastic for us, we are through to the semis now

A lot of rugby at the moment - away from the British and irish

Lions in New Zealand - Wales beat Samoa in their final tour

match, to make it two wins out of two on their summer tour.

Several young players have been given the chance to impress.

22-year-old Steff Evans scored two tries in the 19-17 win.

With several other key players away with the Lions,

It was a frustrating day for Johanna Konta

at the Aegon Classic in Birmingham, where she lost in straight

sets to CoCo Vanderweghe in the second round.

She'll now play at Eastbourne - the last event before Wimbledon.

And cricket is saying farwell to a great of broadcasting.

Henry Blofeld is hanging up his mic after 45 years.

And not only is it his voice listeners of Test Match Special

will miss, but his ability to set a scene wherever he may

Blowers, as he is known, will retire at the end of the summer,

And here's a taste of what you'll be missing.

None of our seagulls today, they always gorged themselves on worms

yesterday and for breakfast this morning. One of them over there is

looking rather top-heavy. I want to tell you about a moment of stark

ingratitude. I was walking home last night and a great lot of seagulls

were eating on the road. A car disturbed them, they flew up and

over me and they deposited on me... I thought I was in a hailstorm. You

almost indecently brown, have you been on a sunbed? How is your

Spanish coming on? Si! LAUGHTER A lot of those clips are available

to watch on the five live website. A special man and a special occasion

when he retires. I'm in great company. I was touring around the

country and was in Aberdeen ahead of the general election and a seagull

deposited on my chin. I feel better, in good company, if it happens to

Henry as well. It might be hard to believe

with everything that's happened recently, but tomorrow marks just

one year since the UK Theresa May has given more details

on the rights of EU citizens living in the UK after Brexit. Any EU

citizen who has been here five years or more will be allowed to stay.

They will be allowed access to education, health care and other

benefits. Mrs May told other leaders the offer only applied if the EU

offered a similar deal to British expats. It's thought around 3

million EU citizens living in Britain would be affected and the

offer has been described as insufficient by the leader of the

European Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker. German Chancellor Angela

Merkel described it as a good start. In a moment we will speak to Kevin

Connelly in Brussels. First our political correspondent Iain Watson

is in Westminster. What has the Prime Minister said?

The Prime Minister has said it's a generous and fair offer, because

it's guaranteeing what would be called settled status to EU citizens

who are already in the UK at the moment. After five years they would

get the same rights as British citizens to welfare, pensions and

education. There would also be a two-year grace period, so if people

are coming here between now and Brexit in 2019, they could come here

and build up to their five years and get the full entitlement

subsequently. There are some sticking points. This is entirely

dependent on getting a reciprocal offer from the EU and that isn't

there yet. Theresa May offering reassurance to EU citizens, but many

don't feel too reassured at the moment because it's yet to be

negotiated. The second sticking point is what will happen to

people's families? Will they get the same rights as people coming here?

And the cut-off date of when you are allowed to come here and build-up to

your five years, that is not clear yet. It could be when Article 50 was

triggered in March this year, or it could be when we leave the EU in

2019. Both Labour and the Liberal Democrats say this is too little,

too late and what's Theresa May should offer is unilateral rights to

EU citizens, not depending on reciprocal rights at all. They

should still get the full rights they have currently under freedom of

movement rules. We can head from Westminster to

Brussels to speak to Kevin Connelly. How has this been received in

Brussels? It's important to say that this is a per little gesture from

Theresa May designs to set the tone of the debate and show Britain is

taking a positive view of the Brexit process and isn't trying to exclude

anybody or make the lives of ordinary people more uncomfortable

or anxious. But the European Union response, the way politicians talk

about things here, isn't to respond to that big politics, if you like,

it's to see it as a very bureaucratic and legalistic process

of negotiation. One European leader from the Netherlands said he thought

the proposal left thousands of questions to be answered. It was a

horrifying prospect for the British negotiators who will have to sit

down and answer all those questions. One of the problems is, if you give

people rights, you have to have a legal system to enforce those

rights. A big row coming up here and something we will talk about again

in the future is what court system you use. The UK says British courts

are excellent and you can use them to enforce your rights. The European

Union wants that to be the business of the European Court of Justice.

Theresa May's government has said the involvement of the European

Court of Justice in British affairs is a red line. Plenty to disagree

and talk about. Kevin Connelly in Brussels.

It might be hard to believe with everything that's happened

recently, but tomorrow marks just one year since the UK

The British people have spoken and the answer is, we're out.

I love this country, and I feel honoured to have served it.

And I will do everything I can in future to help this

HE HUMS, "DO-DO-DO-DO. RIGHT."

I couldn't possibly achieve more than we managed

to get in that referendum, and so I feel it's right that

I have just been to Buckingham Palace, where Her Majesty The Queen

has asked me to form a new Government, and I accepted.

As far as I'm concerned, let's wipe that slate clean

from today and get on with the work we've got to do as a party together.

If you think for one single second that I am not serious about doing

what it takes to protect Scotland's interests, then think again.

This is an historic moment from which there can

Now I have concluded that the only way to guarantee certainty

and stability in the years ahead is to hold this election

and seek your support for the decisions I must take.

It will be a choice between strong and stable leadership

in the national interest, with me as your Prime Minister,

or weak and unstable coalition Government,

Let us resolve to do things differently -

invest in education, invest in health, invest in housing,

invest in jobs, invest in a future for all of us.

And what we're saying is the Conservatives

Note they don't have an overall majority at this stage.

Young people and old people all came together yesterday,

very high turnout, huge increase in the Labour vote, and they did it

because they want to see things done differently,

My Government's priority is to secure the best possible deal

as the country leaves the European Union.

Those involved in the campaigns have had time to reflect on what they did

right, and what they did wrong. Will Straw campaigned for the UK

to remain in the EU - he was the executive director

of the campaign group And on the other side

of the fence, Richard Tice was the co-founder of Leave.EU,

one of two major groups that campaigned for Britain

to leave the European Union. What had he made of the last year?

It has certainly been full of surprises with the general election

a few weeks ago. The referendum a year ago had a clear result, and

that meant we were going to leave the European Union. The big question

was, what did that mean? Theresa May was over pay, saying Brexit means

Brexit. She then put her version of Brexit to the British people in the

general election, and they rejected it. So we are back in a period where

we are not sure what our Brexit strategy looks like. Of course, a

number of people now say that we need to take a different approach to

quite the extreme view of Brexit Theresa May was suggesting. We need

to make sure we don't end up with no deal, which was one of the things

she said she would be prepared to countenance if there wasn't a deal

on the table. No deal better than a bad deal. It is dead in the water

now. Secondly, there are concerns about the border with Ireland, and

that means that Parliament will probably stay in the customs union.

The Mayor of London saying yesterday that to avoid Bridgen's economy

coming off a cliff edge, we have do have a transition deal at the end of

the talks in 2019. That might mean staying in the single market. Let's

be clear, over 80% of the electorate in the general election voted to

leave the customs union and to leave the single market, because that is

what both manifestos said. The general election was about domestic

issues, as Jeremy Corbyn did very well and the Tories didn't do very

well. The whole point about the process is it is taking too long. It

should have been sorted within the first month or two months after the

referendum. Why has it taken too long? The Conservative government

was willing to make the offer, which they making today, but the EU said

they are not ready to start negotiations. We should have shame

them into it. Could Theresa May have said anyway? Not in negotiations,

but this is what we will do? I said on question Time last met them, that

is what you should have done. It is taking too long. The whole process

from here is still taking too long. In business, if we were negotiating

this, you would sit down, greeted in a month and put it into lawyers's

hands. They are spending a week negotiating and three weeks going

back and talking to the media and their respective parties, that is

not the way to give certainty for both sides. Richard and I agree

disagree on lots of side of the debate, but we agree that it is

outrageous for Theresa May to have waited a year to make the offer to 3

million people. These are human beings, these people's partners,

husbands and wives, colleagues. They have been in limbo for the last

year. I actually think, as Richard says, we should have put the EU

under pressure and said, we are going to unilaterally offer rights

to these people and say you can stay in the country. We expect the EU to

do the same for other people, for Brits living abroad, rather than

people being treated as pawns in HS much. Because Theresa May has a

minority government, she hasn't got a huge landslide which she hoped she

would have to go to the EU negotiations and say she had a

mandate. Does it mean Britain has a much weaker position at the

negotiating table? Theoretically, no. If parliamentarians stick to

what is said in the manifestos, because both committed to leaving

the cigar market and the customs union, the reality is, if you want

to control your laws and borders, and trade, you had to leave those

things. I don't think people are interested in the technicalities,

they want a proper British Brexit, they don't want a fudge. If you go

into a negotiation and are prepared to walk away, as David Cameron found

when he tried 18 months ago, you end up with a bad deal. You have to be

prepared to walk away. The right way to negotiate is to say, we either

agree by next March, Q1 2018, or we part as friends and plan for going

into WTO rules, because that is the alternative option. Are we in a

weaker position because of the minority government? Only while our

position is unclear, but Richard is not right about the manifestos. He

is right that the Conservative manifesto said we should leave the

single market and customs union, which was rejected by the British

public. The Labour manifesto said to get access. But... The reality now

is, the important thing is the election produced a hung parliament,

and you have the Labour Party saying it wants an economy first, jobs

first Brexit. You have the Chancellor of the Exchequer... The

WTO rules would mean large tariffs for aspects of the economy. What we

have to do is ensure the deal at the end is at least as good as what we

have at the moment and we don't have a cliff edge in 2019, which is why I

think sensible people like Sadiq Khan are saying that have a

transitional arrangement to stay in the single market... I don't think

ordinary... We are out of time, but the Green room is through there, so

continue, over there. Thank you both.

There are two hundred thousand women in America's prisons.

That's one third of the world's incarcerated women.

About two in three of these women are mothers and as many as one

Following the Grenfell tragedy, it's emerged a number of high rise

buildings are covered in the same cladding that experts say

contributed to the ferocious speed at which last week's fire spread.

Tests are now being carried out on 600 high rise

The Department for Communities and Local Government

is co-ordinating the tests, which can take place

Let's speak now to Tony Bird who worked for Kensington

and Chelsea Council's housing department when the tenants

management organisation that managed Grenfell Tower was established,

Russell Curtis, who's a London architect who often

works with local authorities and on social housing

Jane Philpott, deputy assistant commissioner,

And Conservative MP Sir David Amess, the chairman of the all-party fire

safety and rescue group who joins us from Chelmsford.

We are also going to be talking and bringing you in the next few minutes

a live police press conference from New Scotland Yard. The microphones

are set up. Nobody there at the moment, but they will do a press

conference, bringing us the latest on the grand hellfire. Thank you for

coming in. Tony, you worked as a housing

opposite in the 1970s, you were there involved in it. What are your

memories of Grenfell. I work for a couple of years as part of the

lettings team at Kensington and Chelsea, and we let homes at

Grenville tower. It wasn't the most popular of blocks, because it was a

tower block -- Grenfell Tower. In 1995, however, I worked as part of

an independent team that helped set up the tenant management

organisation. I would like to correct one thing, it is widespread

in the media that it was an outsourced thing by the council. It

wasn't, it was set up because the tenants served a notice on the

council. They had a legal right to set up a tenant management

organisation, and I was responsible for putting together their film and

their mantra when they set it up, "We can do it better." They believe

they took over the management because they could do a better job

the tenants, and they did do for a long time. Russell, if you look at

Grenfell, in your view, is this an issue purely about cladding, or is

it more so? So many people have got in touch to say we don't have fire

extinctions, fire alarms, is it about cladding or is it a wider

issue? You are absolutely right, it is a much wider issue. The cladding

clearly in this case seems to have been a contributing factor, but

buildings are very complicated things. The behaviour of fires

within buildings is very corrugated, so I think it is still too early to

point the finger at anyone particular element of the building.

I think there are much wider issues around how we achieve building

refurbishments like this, in terms of the processors, in terms of

regulations, which we need to address the coming years. How much

is the Fire Brigade consulted? If there is a fire wherever else, and

they are looking at sticking cladding on or what ever, do they

speak to the Fire Brigade and get your view? The Fire Brigade is

certainly in touch with local authorities. It is a local authority

's want ability in terms of safety, -- despondency. We have officers go

out and ensure the firefighting facilities and fire safety is

up-to-date. Presumably, though, you would want to see sprinklers in

every building, you would want to see fire extinguishers, because that

means that your men and women are less likely to have to go into

events like rain fell tower. Absolutely. We would love to see

spankers in every building -- Grenfell Tower. Whether it is

extinguishers or the blockage of fire exits. The part that can be

played is to ensure walkways are clear, that there aren't piles of

rubbish or scooters in the way. The means to get out in the event of a

fire, they need to speak to the building owner, they shouldn't have

fire doors which open, they are there to hold back the fire. I would

urge that they get out and look at their buildings. We have had an

e-mail from Peter, I live in a block in Trafford. We have had a cursory

letter saying our block isn't clad like the Grenfell Tower. There are

no excuses, no alarm I know of, and a single access their case into a

totally flammable entrance hall built on the outside, and we have

been told nothing. We have heard so many stories. I want to bring in Sir

David. You are chairman of the all-party fire safety and rescue

group. How many times have we heard these comments from people in the

last week since the Greenfeld disaster was that we know ministers

from the Conservative Party were warned it was time to review safety

regulations and nothing has happened. Very, very frustrating.

The truth of the circumstances of this fire will come out in the

public enquiry, but it has taken this disaster, on sprinklers and

reviewing building regulations, and we have asked for action on both of

those measures and it has taken this tragedy for our voice to be heard.

When making recommendations in the past, what have you been told by the

Housing Minister 's? For example, we know that Gavin Barwell, the former

housing Mr, now cheese of -- chief of staff for Theresa May, has been

criticised for not acting. I will not focus on one minister,

because this goes back to the government between 1997-2010.

Ministers are not experts on these issues, they depend on advice. What

is crystal clear is ministers have been consistently given advice,

which frankly has been wrong. I think the issue of sprinklers has

been known for quite a long time there.

2009, you have the lateral fire in southern. There were a lot of

conferences there. Tenants who had had the sprinklers retrofitted from

Sheffield, toured the country, to spread the gospel of how effective

it was. It was also remarkably cheap. They told it was ?2000.

Cheaper than cladding? It is different protection. Cladding is

about installation with the materials. But sprinklers save

lives. Seriously, if we talk about a lack of cash, is it more important

to put cladding on the outside to keep a building warm, or save lives?

Just to finish my point, if you put sprinklers in the building there, it

is my view you can negotiate a very significantly lower insurance rate.

So you make the savings by the cost of insuring the buildings, which are

colossal, you can get a much lower rate if you have sprinklers in

there. No one has ever died in a building that has sprinklers there.

They put them into new Bill, but the retrofit once, they don't want to do

it. It is about the culture of no regulation. Russell, can you pick up

on that? There is a challenge around this, because tall buildings aren't

inherently unsafe. I think one of the misconceptions is that it is

either cladding or sprinklers, but actually, in the 1960s and 1970s, a

block that is refurbished, if you are fundamentally changing the

character of the building, and you are introducing new cladding around

it, I would argue that that essentially changes the

Confederation of the building to an extent where you do need to put

riveting. The problem is, fires in tower blocks are not uncommon,

actually. But it is the effect of those fires, which we need to look

at. In 60s and 70s box that generally have a concrete or brick

outer skin, they don't tend to spread from the flat, they are

suppressed within the flat, they don't spread to other homes. In this

case, the cladding appears to have had a contributing factor in the

spread of that cladding from one small fire to a much wider extent.

They need to be questions asked as to whether over wrapping a building

in a new skin fundamentally alters the character and nature of the

building. I don't know if you can answer this,

but when you attend fires, have you seen a difference in the way fires

have behaved on buildings that have this new style of cladding? It's

important to remember the Grenfell firewall is unprecedented. I have

certainly never, and nobody had ever seen a fire like that. We take it

building by building on an individual basis. Our crews continue

to be out inspecting premises all through the year and ensuring that

all the facilities are for us so we can make sure we can make safe entry

to the building and carry out our firefighting work, and make sure

they are up-to-date and ready to be used. What would each of you say to

people watching now who are living in tower blocks, where ever they

are. Maybe they know they have the same cladding on a building that was

on Grenfell. Maybe it's still being tested or maybe they have been told

it's not the same. We heard earlier on in the programme, one woman

living in a tower block in Camden, she hasn't slept since Grenfell. She

can see the flames from her window and she has to put her kids to bed

at night. What would you say to people in those tower blocks right

now. I would like to reassure the public. It's important they

understand, our policy hasn't changed. Predominantly you are safer

to remain in your dwelling, within that flat and call us out. Tell the

fire brigade where you are. The issue in regards to whether you

should leave your building or you should stay, it comes down to

whether fire is. If there is a fire in pinching on your dwelling, you

will know because it is hot or smoky, then you want to make your

way out. The best thing you can do is to make sure you know how to get

out and your family know how to get out and you have a plan for that.

Inside your building and in the flat, let's make sure everybody has

a working smoke alarm. I think lots of local authorities are now taking

action and that is to be applauded. I don't think we should panic. Be

vigilant, but don't panic. Thank you for coming in today. It is now

10:33am. With the news, here's Annita

in the BBC Newsroom. The president of the European

Commission Jean-Claude Juncker has said Theresa May's offered to extend

the rights of EU citizens in the UK doesn't go far enough. She has

offered to extend those citizens who have lived in the UK for five years.

11 residential high-rise buildings in England have been found

with cladding which raises safety concerns, during urgent

safety tests carried out after the Grenfell Tower fire.

The buildings are spread across eight local authority areas,

including Camden in north London, where cladding is now being removed

Premier Inn has also revealed that it's concerned that cladding

on three of its hotels doesn't appear to meet government guidance.

A senior police officer has warned forces in England and Wales

would face a real challenges in dealing with large-scale

outbreaks of disorder because of budget cuts.

The Chief Constable of the West Midlands, Dave Thompson,

said neighbourhood street patrols would disappear unless there

The government said it will not rush into releasing additional money.

People at Glastonbury can expect extra searches this year as security

stepped up at the festival. A minute's silence this morning,

to honour those affected by the recent tragedies

in London and Manchester. That's a summary of the latest

news, join me for BBC Newsroom Live England U21s reach the semifinals of

the European Championships with a 3-0 victory over Poland tomorrow

night. They haven't been this far in the competition since 2009.

It follows the U20s victory at the World Cup and then the U17s

who made the final of the Euros back in May.

A lot of rugby at the moment - away from the British and irish

Lions in New Zealand - Wales beat Samoa in their final tour

match, to make it two wins out of two on their summer tour.

22-year-old Steff Evans scored two tries in the 19-17 win.

Practice is under way ahead of the Azerbaijan Grand Prix. It is only

the second year of the Grand Prix. And cricket is saying farwell

to a great of broadcasting. Henry Blofeld is hanging

up his mic after 45 years. And not only is it his voice

listeners of Test Match Special will miss, but his ability to set

a scene wherever he may Blowers, as he is known, will retire

at the end of the summer, Some breaking news coming from NHS

England. The latest figures on people still receiving hospital

treatment after the Grenfell Tower fire, a total of nine people in

hospital and we are told three are in critical care. Kings College

Hospital has five patients with two in critical care. Chelsea and

Westminster has two patients, the Royal free Hospital one, in critical

care, and St Mary's Hospital also has one patient. That the

information we are getting on the number of people still in hospital a

week on from the fire in Grenfell Tower. We also expecting a police

press conference in the next minutes. You can see all the

microphones are trained and waiting for somebody to come out to give an

update on the Grenfell Tower investigation. As soon as they begin

speaking we will head straight to new Scotland Yard. We had an e-mail

from Kim who says she lives in a block that eight floors high. There

are no sprinklers, just one exit and no fire doors in communal areas. Our

sister blog had a fire four years ago in the electrical cupboard and

they couldn't get out and had to go back to their flats and wait for the

firemen. We had a letter put through our block saying that we are now

safe and they had a safety check in the last nine years. Keep your

communication coming in. An NHS trust has been fined

?300,000 after a young patient fell to his death

from an industrial chimney. 20-year-old Adam Withers,

who suffered from an acute psychotic illness, died after gaining access

to a chimney at Epsom Hospital The health trust, Surrey

and Borders Partnership, admitted health and safety breaches

at a previous hearing. An inquest found it had failed

to reassess Mr Withers' risk levels. His family spoke to our social

affairs correspondent, They witnessed the fall. We will

come back to that story in a couple of minutes because we can cross to

new Scotland Yard where we are expecting that press conference to

take place. We are hearing that nine people are still in hospital one we

gone from the Grenfell Tower fire. Three people still in critical care.

We are expecting police to come out and update us in the next few

minutes. We thought they would come out right now but the people coming

out of the building, they don't look like the officials coming out to

address the media. We know at least 79 people died in that fire, and the

discussion we had a few moments ago with a member of the Fire Brigade,

they said very much that the view was that you should remain in your

flat if there is a fire because you are much safer there than if you

come out. Many people getting in touch with us throughout the morning

and sending comments, telling us about their experiences. So many

people concerned that whether or not they have cladding that is similar

to Grenfell Tower, they still say they have no fire extinguishers or

sprinklers, and many don't feel they have adequate protection. We have

something coming in from our home affairs correspondent Tom Symonds

while we wait for the press conference to begin a new Scotland

Yard. Police say the insulation and cladding fitted to Grenfell Tower

has failed a small-scale test which was carried out by the Metropolitan

Police to ensure public safety. The Met will investigate whether the law

was broken by fitting both to the outside of the tower. Detectives

have also confirmed that the fire started within a Hotpoint fridge

freezer. Manufacturers have been warned. We don't want there to be

victims of the tragedy we don't know about, say detectives. If people

were not here legally, it doesn't matter. They just want to know who

was in a tower. Police also telling us no extra people have shown is

missing. Nine people have been confirmed as dead and formally

identified, but 79 are missing and they are now sadly assumed to have

died. The police say they need public help to ensure that none of

the victims have been missed. Detective Chief Superintendent Fiona

McCormack has said the priority is to understand who was in Grenfell

Tower. They are not interested in why somebody was there, whether they

were there legally or not, they just want to get to the bottom of who was

there. Police have said a huge team of 250 specialist investigators are

working hard on all aspects of the investigation and the response of

the emergency services. Police have confirmed the fire was started

deliberately. We can cross over live to new Scotland Yard. We are now

over a week into our investigation of the catastrophic fire at Grenfell

Tower. I can confirm that the numbers we have of presumed dead,

confirmed dead or missing still remains at 79, with nine people

being formally identified as dead. I know there is a fear that number is

a lot higher, and I do not want any hidden victims of this tragedy.

Through our family liaison officers and local council networks, we

prioritise in establishing exactly who was in Grenfell Tower that

night. The Home Office has assured us that they will not use this

tragedy to check people's immigration status, and neither will

the police. I urge people now who know people were in that tower that

night, either as a resident or people visiting, to phone the

incident room on 08000324359 and let us know who those people are. This

is one of the largest and most complexes investigation is the

Metropolitan Police has ever undertaken. There are currently more

than 250 specialist investigators working on all aspects of this

investigation. It will establish how the fire started and this bead and

spread that it took hold of the building. There are two points of

priority for me. The speed that it did spread through the building, and

also the internal safety aspects of the building. On the first point, we

are examining with experts the aluminium cladding and the

insulation behind the cladding, how the tiles were fixed to the

building, and how it was installed. Preliminary tests on the

installation samples collected from Grenfell Tower show that they

combusted soon after the test started. The initial tests on the

cladding tiles also failed the safety tests. Such are our safety

concerns on the outcome of those tests, we have shared our data with

the Department for Communities and Local Government, and we have been

assured that communication data has been shared with every council. We

are also concerned about the fridge freezer in this matter and we have

been working with the Department of energy, business and industrial

strategy, who are working with Hotpoint on the safety of that

fridge. We know this fire was started deliberately. And we know

that the fridge freezer in this matter has been never subject to a

product recall before. Further tests are ongoing on the fridge. To

elaborate on other parts of the investigation that we are doing so

far, we have seized a huge amount of CCTV and we have received over 70

images and moving footage following the appeals last week and I am

grateful for everybody that has sent in their images will stop please

continue to do that and let us know if you have any images or other

information regarding this fire. 600 909 calls were made to the

police and we have listened to every one of those to truly understand the

fire. Some calls are over one hour long and are truly harrowing in

their content. We have started to take statements from the occupants

and visitors to Grenfell Tower that night, and this work will continue.

In terms of seizing relevant material for a number of

organisations, I can confirm that has already started and is under

way. I want to be as transparent as I can in regards to this

investigation, because at the same time I need to protect the integrity

of my investigation. If I find out that individuals or organisations

committed offences, then I must be in a position to positive without

prejudice to any proceedings. Our search of Grenfell Tower to recover