29/08/2017 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello it's Tuesday, it's 9.00, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

Our top story today - North Korea has fired a ballistic

missile across northern Japan, sparking an air raid warning before

There's been international outrage - we'll bring you the details.

Also this morning - "Catastrophic" flooding in the US

state of Texas is expected to worsen in coming days as waters

rise following a storm of historic proportions.

We have a two-storey home and on the first floor it's up

to here and all the furniture is just floating, everything.

We'll hear from some of those affected before 10.00.

And - this programme has learnt that women are having hysterectomies

to remove a controversial sterilisation implant that's used

by the NHS because of severe pain it can cause.

Nothing was stopping the pain, it was unbearable.

I felt like I was a failure as a mother, that I was not

the mum that I used to be, that I should be.

The full exclusive report in around 15 minutes time.

If you've been fitted with an essure device -

really keen to hear your experiences this morning.

Hello, welcome to the programme, we're live until 11.00.

Throughout the morning we'll keep you up today with all the breaking

news and developing stories and - as always - really

A little later we'll meet to an eight-year-old girl injured up

in the Manchester arena bombings who's been reunited with the police

officer who rescued her and drove her to hospital.

Lily Harrison and PC Cath Daley will join us

Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning -

use the hashtag Victoria live and If you text, you will be charged

The United Nations Security Council is to hold an emergency

meeting this afternoon, after North Korea fired a missile

The missile flew over Hokkaido island before crashing into the sea.

Japan's Prime Minister said the launch represented a serious

Our correspondent, Yogita Limaye, reports from the South

Japan being woken up by a siren on Tuesday morning as a North Korean

The rocket was launched from near Pyongyang and it flew over

the northern island of Hokkaido, before splitting into three

parts and landing into the sea to the east.

It is just the latest in a series of military missile tests conducted

by North Korea this year, but a more serious one

The last time that happened was nearly two decades ago.

"The outrageous act of firing a missile over our country

is an unprecedented, serious and grave threat," Japanese

At a US military base near Tokyo, a military drill was conducted

by Japanese forces in response to the missile launch.

Across the sea in South Korea, joint exercises are under way

They are held every August, and North Korea usually responds

Last year, it conducted a nuclear test in retaliation.

This year, it has flown a missile that had the potential

A strong message that despite international pressure,

Our correspondent Yogita Limaye is in the South Korean

South Korea have responded, what have they said? It has been a strong

response. The military has been told to show overwhelming force against

North Korea. South Korean fighter jets staged a live bombing drilled

to attack the North Korean leadership. It was a strong response

coming from here, especially as president moon has been advocating

diplomacy and has said, he wants a peaceful resolution to this crisis.

To hear this strong forceful language coming from him today,

suddenly shows how seriously this escalation from North Korea is being

treated in this country. The UN Security Council has increased

sanctions on North Korea, what else can the international community do?

This comes just a little over three weeks after the fresh UN sanctions

were passed. They banned a major exports from the country. Even

China, the top trade partner of North Korea had backed those

sanctions and urged North Korea to stop missile tests. We are still to

hear what China has to say about this latest launch. We have spoken

to analysts here who say sanctions to work against North Korea and this

is one more indicator it is not going to stop Pyongyang. Top

military officers have spoken and they have said they will implement

more military measures. But we don't know yet what that means and when it

will happen. Thank you very much. Anthony on Facebook agrees with the

analysts, political pressure won't work and nor will sanctions as Kim

Jong-un won't allow himself to suffer. And this tweet says Kim

Jong-un is playing Donald Trump and he is falling for it. There needs to

be a de-escalation in the rhetoric. More to come on that in the morning.

Annita is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

The 'catastrophic' flooding in Texas is expected to get much worse,

with officials warning they expect nearly half-a-million

With waters still rising, helicopters and hundreds

of specialist vehicles have been deployed in the rescue effort.

An emergency has also been declared in neighbouring Louisiana,

Waiting for help to arrive as the floods reached new heights.

All day, emergency responders, neighbours, and even complete

strangers, have answered pleas for help from those

We're trying to save our babies, that's it.

Resources have been overwhelmed by the epic scale of this disaster.

20 helicopters have been flying missions and the state's entire

national guard has been deployed to aid in the search and rescue.

Thousands have been saved but many more remain desperate.

From midnight until where we are today, 290 have been rescued.

We fully recognise that there are many other people out

there in stressful situations and we intend to get

Houston is struggling to stay afloat.

Few parts of the sprawling metropolis have been spared

from the rising waters and torrential rain.

Every major highway has been affected and Harvey is straining

It has been days since Harvey first made landfall.

But communities here in Texas are just now

And with even more rain forecast, authorities fear

President Trump will travel to The Lone Star State today.

He has promised rapid federal aid and Texas will need it.

The state faces years of rebuilding and recovery in the wake of this

An exclusive investigation for the Victoria Derbyshire

programme reveals a sterilisation device called Essure can

lead to complications requiring full hysterectomies.

The sale of the implant - called Essure has just been

temporarily suspended for "commercial reasons."

The manufacturer and regulator say the device is safe and the benefits

The number of uninsured drivers on British roads may be increasing

for the first time in more than a decade according to new data

The Motor Insurance Bureau, which processes claims by victims

of uninsured drivers, say there was an increase of 10%

That rise could suggest there are more uninsured drivers on UK roads.

Brexit negotiations are continuing in Brussels after the EU told the UK

it needed to get serious about the withdrawal talks.

The EU's chief negotiator Michel Barnier has

expressed concern about the lack of progress made so far and accused

Britain of ambiguity on key issues like its exit bill.

The UK Brexit Secretary David Davis said both sides had to show

The source of a suspected chemical haze which drifted

in from the sea yesterday in Sussex is still not known.

Around 150 people were treated in hospital

after reporting vomiting and irritation, and several beaches

An investigation into the source of the haze is continuing.

The British actor edge Green has pulled out of a programme. He said

he didn't know the race of one of the characters he was playing so

he's stepping down and the role can be cast appropriately.

We will bring you the story on the Essure advice. If you are offered a

hysterectomy after one of these, you will be offered a pelvic mesh. A lot

of women don't realise they are suffering and it is down to the

Essure divide. And this tweet says, when will they learn? Do not implant

device that cannot be removed safely if things go wrong. More on that to

come. Your experience is welcome and we will put them into the

conversation. Johanna Konta is out of the US open?

Yes, it has been a positive year and she made the semi final at

Wimbledon, but a first round shock exit in New York this morning to the

unseeded Serbian. She was seeded seventh and among the favourites.

She could have finished as the world number one, if she did so. She won

the first set, 6-4 and then the second and the third. She said it is

just a tennis match, just sport. She has taken the defeat well. Heather

Watson has gone now. Better news for Kyle Edmund and Andy Murray, pulled

out of the US Open injured before it started. We should tell you quickly

about a dramatic return to grand slam tennis for Maria Sharapova. She

was serving doping suspension. 15 months she was out. She beat Simona

Halep, so announcing herself back on the major stage in style. I think

she cried. So relieved. Arsenal had a terrible time on Sunday and it

looks like they set to lose Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain on.

We'll be missing? Yes, he is one of their top players and we will from

Ian Wright, but Arsene Wenger is in a sticky situation. The transfer

window closes on Thursday night. He could lose his star player and Ozil

is out of action. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, he arrived from

Southampton six years ago. Has been a protege of Arsene Wenger. It is

significant in a sense they will lose an England international,

24-year-old. So much time ahead of him in the Premier League. Important

time for Arsenal. What will happen over these next few days? They have

lost two of their opening three games. I was at Anfield on Sunday

and I was watching Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, who looked

completely disinterested and so did Alexis Sanchez. And Ian Wright has

said the club is in crisis and Arsene Wenger has to go. Where do we

stop. The amount of things going wrong. It does come back to Arsene

Wenger's door. We are three games in and we are literally at crisis

point. We are losing players. Why would Traxler sign Alex

Oxlade-Chamberlain. When you say, do I think he should go? I would like

him to go because I do not believe now that Arsene Wenger can motivate

those players. With everything that is going on above him and the way

the players are performing on the pitch, for him to turn this around

for himself, for his own sanity. We are three games in and it is already

an absolute nightmare. Strong words from Ian Wright. I want to show you

this. This is Ousmane Dembele who has signed for Barcelona from

Borussia Dortmund who has signed for 100 35mm hounds. The well's media

are watching. My kids can do that. That is as bad

as me and I am not worth ?135 million. The cricket, they need to

bowl out the West Indies, it is the final day at Headingley to win the

second test. The West Indies need 317 wins to run.

Next - another exclusive investigation by this programme

into a controversial device implanted in women.

After our revelations earlier this year that 800 patients in the UK

were suing the NHS manufacturers over vaginal mesh implants,

this morning we're going to bring you news about a sterilisation

It's a coil which is inserted into the fallopian tubes,

allows women to be sterilised without needing surgery.

BUT we've learned it can lead to complications and side-effects

such as intense pain - leaving some women with

no choice but to have surgery to get it out -

including undergoing full hysterectomies.

The sale of the implant - called Essure has just been

temporarily suspended for "commercial reasons".

The manufacturer and regulator say the device is safe and the benefits

Our reporter Jean Mackenzie has this exclusive report.

It felt like I was being stabbed repeatedly, over

and over and there was this hot, burning pain.

I felt like I was dying, there was something horribly wrong

with me, something was slowly killing me from the inside.

It is scary how something so small can cause much damage.

This is essure, a device used to permanently sterilise women.

The coils are inserted into the fallopian tubes to block them.

Seen as revolutionary, the procedure does not require surgery.

The device was sold to me on the understanding

I would be in and out of the doctor's office

That there would not be any recovery time.

It had far less risks attached to it than traditional sterilisation.

Approved for use on the NHS eight years ago, doctors promised women

a quick and safe way to be sterilised.

But this has not always been the case.

Earlier this year we were contacted by women who told us that essure had

Since then we have learnt that there have been major

problems with the device, often women are not being told

about the risks and sometimes they are needing total

It literally felt like somebody was pumping blood out of me.

I could feel it sitting down, standing up.

The day after Emily's procedure things started to go wrong.

The pain, I can remember it now, the sort of tummy ache that feels

like somebody is on your insides and squishing everything.

Emily's bleeding did not stop and doctors quickly had

to remove her womb and fallopian tubes to get the implants out.

The other was later found stuck in tissue surrounding her bowel

When I go to the toilet the pain is there and I sometimes bleed

Living in constant pain is really wearing.

Me and Andy find it very difficult to be intimate together

In regards to being a mum it stops me being a mum a lot

Obviously they could be quite low down and that is really hard

in every way, not just in the physical pain,

but in the emotional as well because it is quite hard to not be

able to be the mum that I want to be.

The essure coils are made from nickel and small polyester fibres.

The fibres are designed to trigger inflammation

inside the fallopian tubes, causing scar tissue to build up

which eventually blocks the tubes, sterilising the woman.

But this has caused some women intense pain and others have reacted

If you look at what it is made of, you start to get

Carl Hennigan has been looking at the medical evidence surrounding

10% of women are sensitive to nickel.

There is an immediate problem, but it is also made of a compound

which is present in this, PET, which, when you heat this

bottle up, it will release compounds that are potentially

That heating happens in the human body and when you do that,

it starts to release compounds into your body that can have

all sorts of problems that can lead to serious issues.

I wake up feeling drugged, I wake up in pain, feeling

like I haven't slept after a long sleep.

I never feel like I have had enough sleep.

The 25th of March, Monday, 2013, pain, wrists, knuckles, shoulders,

particularly between shoulder blades, burning sensation.

For years Victoria could not work out why she was so unwell and kept

A dull thumping headache that radiates from the top of my spine.

We need to eat as many as we can before here.

What is the most unwell that you have felt?

Moments of really feeling like I could not get out of bed

and being in an incredible amount of pain and having to go to bed.

It was debilitating, I had to be in bed,

Underneath the duvet and painkillers and hide from the world.

I felt like I was dying, there was something horribly,

horribly wrong with me and I was going to die.

Like I was being poisoned, something was slowly

And how did you feel once you had had the surgery?

I had experienced a horrible taste in my mouth for I could not tell

you for how long leading up to that point, and it had gone.

That came back, that stop falling out.

Within 12 months it was just incredible.

I was back to where I was before I had it done.

The mistake that was made was they thought it was only

going to be a localised inflammatory response just within

This doctor removes essure from women in the US.

He is now advising doctors here on the technique.

Do you think there is a clear association between the symptoms

that many of these women are complaining

I do believe there is a clear association.

When we removed the device in its entirety and do not leave

any fragments behind, in 90% of the cases we are seeing

the patients recovering within just a few hours or even a few days.

While essure has worked well for many women,

over the past few years thousands have come forward complaining

A Facebook group here has more than 300 members,

but a similar one in the US has more than 30,000.

But it is impossible to know exactly how common problems are.

The NHS cannot tell us how many women have been fitted

with essure in the UK, or how many have had it removed.

The other way to find out is through the body that

We sent a Freedom of information request to them, asking how many

women have reported problems with the device, but they refused

to tell us on this was commercially sensitive information that may

But we know that in the US more than 15,000 women

These include pain, allergic reactions, and the coil is moving

It is outrageous that they have to have journalists or the media

tried to get access to this information.

You should not even need to use a freedom of information request,

it should be on the website because you and I, but particularly

the women affected, should be able to look at this data.

Many of the women we have spoken to were not warned about some

For Laura who has an nickel allergy this would have

I was left stuck with these things inside my body

I went from being a mother that was doing everything

with her children, managing brilliantly, putting

carpets down, decorating, and taking the kids here,

there and everywhere to a mum that spent most of her days in bed,

unable to move without pain, basically being a shell of myself

Did you really consider taking your own life?

At one point when it was really bad, it seemed that even the painkillers

they had me on, even morphine that I had to take home, it just

I did not know, I felt like I was a failure as a mother,

that I was not the mother that I used to be, that I should be,

that I was a burden on everyone around me who was having to pick

I really felt like I could not go on.

I still have days where all of my joints hurt, I am still in pain.

The damage they caused inside me for all of that time

Here is what we have found out about the problems with essure.

We have seen a letter sent by Cornwall Hospital in 2013 warning

women who had had it figured that there had been

In 2015, a robust study showed that women who had essure were ten times

more likely to need follow up surgery than those who had had

Researchers said this was a serious safety concern.

We also got hold of a list of safety issues the NHS have had

These include the device perforating the fallopian tube,

moving around and attaching to the stomach lining, being

So why are some hospitals are still using essure?

Ben Peyton Jones used to implant the device until his hospital

reduced the number of women they offer it to.

Do you think that we should be using essure in the UK still has

I think it has a place for women who cannot have a keyhole operation

and they understand the risks and benefits of the

I think if it is used correctly by the manufacturer's guidance

and in trained hands, I think it is safe.

Do you think with this procedure and with this device

Would I suggest it is a procedure for my wife?

I don't think I would because I think for her there

are probably very suitable alternatives which have a better

safety profile, but that is not to say that for some women

they will feel that the perceived benefits for them outweigh any risks

No one signed up for saying, you know what, give me ten out

of ten level pain and make me have to have my uterus removed two

That is outrageous, that is unacceptable and yet

It is basically shame on every doctor who knows

about essure who is not saying, this is something I cannot sign

on with, I cannot continue to do it because of the risks to my patients.

So how did this device get approved for use in the UK?

The clinical trial evidence is so poor it is not even

That trial should have followed women up for five years.

But they only followed them up for one year,

so in effect nobody has got real understanding of what happens at two

Seriously, there is insufficient evidence to use this device

on the market right now, so it should be withdrawn.

Do we need to be worried about other devices?

We should be particularly worried about what is called

Anything that you put inside of your body you want to know

When you look at the evidence that is used for devices

across the board at this level, it is inferior.

That says to me there is something inherently wrong in how

we think about devices, in how we regulate them.

Like vaginal meshes which we investigated earlier this year,

you have a device that women are complaining about

and yet again they feel they are not being listened to.

It is clear that there are some risks associated with essure,

and yet in the years since these have started to emerge very

little has been done to inform or protect women.

Last year, the American regulator ordered the manufacturer, Bayer,

to carry out long-term testing on essure.

It also forced them to put a warning on its box,

"Some patients implanted with essure have experienced perforation

The inserts have been found in the abdominal or pelvic cavity.

Patients have reported persistent pain and suspected allergic

It then goes on to say, "if the device needs to be removed,

theN a surgical procedure will be required."

If you had been told about these risks, would you have

Absolutely no way at all, especially the part with the nickel.

Why would anyone put themselves at that risk for contraception?

Earlier this month the sale of essure implants was suspended

The manufacturer has asked hospitals not to use their existing

stock during this time, but the regulator has left it up

Both Bayer and the NHRA stress that this product is safe

and that the majority of women experience no side effects.

No one is listening to us, there are many women coming forward,

approaching their GPs, going back to the implanting doctors

saying that I am unwell, I have been unwell since I had this product.

How much evidence do you want to be in a position where you go,

I wish that I could go back all them years and say, don't do it,

I wish I had never had it put inside me or lived through things

that nobody should ever have to live through.

Nobody should go through what I went through and yet there are so many

You can read all about our story on the BBC news site. Janus says, it

amazes me we implant stuff in our bodies when we are sensitive to the

things they are made of. And Laura says I am left with permanent

debilitating issues from Essure. I am so glad our voices are being

heard and awareness raised for all that suffering.

We asked the manufacturer and the regulator to appear

Instead they gave us this length statement :

"We would like to emphasise that recent independent expert reviews

of Essure carried out by medical devices safety authorities have each

addressed the safety of Essure in detail and have each concluded

that Essure has a positive benefit/risk profile.

This means that they consider Essure is safe enough and also that it

Many women with Essure rely on this form of contraception

"Bayer encourages any women with questions to speak

It says "Patient safety and the appropriate use of Essure

are the greatest priorities, and the company fully

stands behind Essure as an appropriate choice for women

Women who currently have Essure in place can continue to feel

They were also keen to stress that their request to hospitals not

to use their existing stock is a voluntary request,

and hospitals can make their own decisions.

The MHRA told us during the making of this film that they "had no

evidence to suggest this device was unsafe".

With regards to the recent suspension, they told us this

did not suggest an increased risk to patient safety.

They said "patient safety is our highest priority

and we encourage the reporting of any adverse incidents

with medical devices to MHRA regardless of how long ago

"It is important that the patient and their health care professional

discuss the risks involved in the procedure"

We would talk about this after ten a:m.. Get in touch in the usual

ways. We will be talking about the hurricane.

"It was like nothing we've ever seen"

We hear the stories of people caught up

Reunited: We speak to an 8 year old girl caught up in the Manchester

arena bombings and the police officer who rescued her.

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of todays news.

The United Nations Security Council is to hold an emergency meeting this

afternoon after North Korea fired a ballistic missile over northern

Japan. The missile, which fell into the sea triggered loudspeaker alerts

warning people on the island of Hokkaido, to take cover. Japan's

Prime Minister said it poses a serious threat to his nation. Boris

Johnson says he is outraged. The 'catastrophic' flooding in Texas

is expected to get much worse, with officials warning they expect

nearly half-a-million With waters still rising,

helicopters and hundreds of specialist vehicles have been

deployed in the rescue effort. An emergency has also been declared

in neighbouring Louisiana, The number of uninsured drivers

on British roads may be increasing for the first time in more

than a decade according to new data The Motor Insurance Bureau,

which processes claims by victims of uninsured drivers,

say there was an increase of 10% That rise could suggest

there are more uninsured That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 10.00 And now the sport. Johanna Konta

suffered a shock first-round defeat in US open. She could have ended the

tournament as the world number one. There was a stunning return to grand

slam tennis for Maria Sharapova who knocked out Simona Halep after her

15 month doping suspension. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain is on the verge

of joining Chelsea. A fee has been reported for the England

international who is out of contract at the Emirates next summer and he

has refused to sign a new deal. England's cricketers need to bowl

out the West Indies at Headingley. The West Indies need 317 runs to win

on the final day, which gets underway in an hour and a half.

Moorfield at 10:30 a:m., we will see you then.

"Catastrophic" flooding in the US state of Texas is expected

to worsen in coming days as waters rise following a storm

Much of Houston - one of the largest American cities -

is under water and millions of people are still there -

either trapped or unwilling to leave vulnerable homes.

Officials in Texas estimate around 450-thousand people will need

help because of flooding from Tropical Storm Harvey.

Some 30,000 residents are likely to require emergency shelter.

President Trump's heading to the region today.

The rain is pounding numbers and the wind gusts makes it difficult to

stay standing. It appears to be one of the worst floods Houston has ever

had. We are measuring it not in inches, but in feet. We will get to

you, I ask you to remain calm, remain a little patient. This likely

is going to be a historic rainfall, if not, all-time record. Right now,

my apartment complex is surrounded by water. We couldn't leave, even if

we wanted to. Flooding has taken place wherever

there are rivers in the Houston area. They are the ones, at this

moment, in dire need of rescue. They are rescuing people in their 90s. It

is very overwhelming, they have got to walk her across the street.

Within ten to 15 minutes, the water went from ankle high up to waist

high. They were under water. Here is the alligator moving along. It is

taking its time. Now it looks like there is not only him, but now him!

We have received over 2000 phone calls throughout the greater Houston

metropolitan area, requesting assistance.

The US President, Donald Trump, made an announcement last night,

saying the government was "100% with the people of Texas

and Louisiana" and they were part of "one American family that hurts

together, struggles together, and endures together".

Nothing can defeat the unbreakable spirit of the people

Right now every American heart sends its love and support to those

whose lives have been upended, totally upended, totally,

We ask God for his wisdom and strength, we will get

through this, we will come out stronger and, believe me,

we will be bigger, better, stronger than ever before.

The rebuilding will begin and in the end it will be

Let's talk now to some of those affected.

Pastor Arron Sanders from a local church set up a shelter

when Red Cross facilities became overwhelmed, Mayoore De Vries

lives in Houston near the heart of the worst affected districts,

and Richard Martin lives on the third floor of an apartment

Thank you for giving us your time today. Pastor, who are you looking

after? There is nowhere for people to go as they came in from the

storm. They were dripping wet and lost everything. The community

organically organised three shelters in a matter of hours. Local schools

opened up the cafeterias, churches came together with nonprofits and

the city government and it was amazing to see the response. What

kind of things are people saying to you about what they have lost in the

floods? They are just in shock, to wake up and sea water in your home

and to try to wait it out and be rescued, sometimes by helicopter, by

boat. To have lost everything. Some of them are just looking for loved

ones and friends and relatives and haven't been able to be in touch

with them. They are in a desperate state. Richard, how stressful has it

been? It hasn't been a stressful for me because I haven't had any water

in my apartment but I live about a quarter of a mile from the central

Business District and probably half a mile from one of the largest

systems to the downtown area which has suffered some of the heaviest

flooding. What is the situation like now? Today was very blustery, very

windy. Raining. It has stopped a bit now, but the storm has gone back out

into the Gulf and is coming back up through Houston and Louisiana

tomorrow. More rain is expected, I think another eight to 15 inches.

Thank you for talking to us, we wish you all the best.

We hear from a woman who was left suicidal

after using the sterilisation device Essure.

Next this morning, we speak to an eight-year-old girl

caught up in the Manchester arena bombings who's been reunited

with the police officer who rescued her and drove her to hospital.

Lily Harrison suffered a shrapnel wound and a bruised lung

in the blast at the Arianne Grande concert which killed 22 people.

PC Cath Daley saw Lily's parents crouched around their unconscious

daughter and decided they could not wait for an ambulance so drove

She was reunited with Lily and her mother as part

OK? You OK? Good to see you. Lily is very excited to see you. Come

through. Thank you. Hello, Lily. How are you? Good to see you again. Are

you better? Yes. Good, what are you doing? Making a card for you. That

is very nice of you, it is great to see you. Do I get a kiss? Yes. We

are very grateful, without you getting us there, it could have been

a completely different situation. She has recovered so quickly and you

can see what she is like now. Then I think, we don't know how to thank

you because you say, I was just doing my job...

We just don't know how to say thank you. You have said it, you don't

need to say any more. Just seeing you guys here today is all the

thanks I need, honestly. Really. Is that for me? Thank you very much.

Thank you. Do I get a hug. Thank you, Lily. Thanks very much.

Lily Harrison, her mum Lauren Thorpe and PC Cath Daley

How are you? You look so well. How has it been recovering? Fun. Why do

you say that? I get to do things I could not do before. Like what? Like

I could not do handstands against the wall. You can do that now? With

help from my mum and dad. We have made her a nice and strong. That is

a remarkable recovery. What do you recall from that night? I understand

you were 15 feet away from the bomber. Ariana had just finished,

Lily was really tired. It was a school night. We tried to leave

quite quickly. We came out of the arena and into the room where the

bomb went off. We went past the box office and that is when it went off.

It was a little bit of a blur. We could see it in our peripheral. I

remember seeing Lily on the floor. She had made a sign she was holding

at the concert. He picked Lily up like a rugby ball and said, let's

go. We headed for the exit. I remember shouting, my leg. I could

feel less pain in my leg. It was covered in blood. I did not know

what it was. We carried on running down the stairs. Someone stopped in

front of Adam, he fell over this person, this person fell with Lily

and I fell over them. We tried to get up as quickly as we could.

Obviously there were people coming behind us. We hurried up as quickly

as we could. Adam picked her up and then he could feel this hall in her

back. She said, I don't feel well. We were not in the rush of people in

the car park. Adam brought her down and she was unconscious. So we lay

her down so we could see what was going on. She just wasn't waking up.

We looked at each other as if to say, this is it. She has gone. We

did not know what to do with ourselves. We stood there feeling

helpless. Eventually she started to come back around. It was kind of

such a huge relief because we had gone from rock bottom to then she

was awake, so even though she had this injury to her back she was

still with us. We lifted her jacket up and had a look, that is when we

saw that she had a big hole in her back. Luckily there was a doctor

picking up someone from the arena, she came over with another police

officer. Realised Lily was not breathing properly. That is where

came in. What did you think when you came across them? When I arrived, as

you can imagine, it was utter chaos. We got into the car park and I saw

the Sergeant treating Lily. Had a brief conversation with him in

relation to Lily's breathing. There was a possibility that her lung

could have been punctured as a result of the shrapnel. I was

acutely aware that it may be some time before we got any medics to

where we were. The information we had been given was the other side of

the arena. The vehicle I'd arrived and was a short distance away so we

made the decision I would get her to hospital as soon as possible in the

police vehicle. That's what we did. My colleague picked up Lily, we got

her into the police van, sat you on your dad's knee, and we got her the

treatment that she needed. You made the right decision. So you've been

treated by all these clever doctors, look at you now? It is amazing,

isn't it? It is an amazing story when you think about what could have

been. Just the recovery, she could not move her head for the first

couple of days. Within a couple of days, she was getting better and

better. Children are so resilient. She went from staring into space and

not moving, all the doctors gave her incentives to get moving again. Did

you get to meet Ariana? Yes! And mummy and daddy. Especially daddy.

What did she say to you? She said she could get a magazine for me so

now I've got that framed in my bedroom. Have you? Obviously meant a

lot to the little children in hospital. It was such a left. We

phoned a package near the hospital. Then she turned up anyway. Once we

heard she was there, everyone was so excited. There was no others crying.

She was great, wasn't she? She had loads of pictures with you. Had so

much time to chat to everyone. They were brilliant. They found out we

did not have tickets for the concert. The hospital sorted that

out. What would you say to Cath, this wonderful lady? Thank you. It

almost does not seem big enough but that is it. It is just that.

Full-stop as you see in the documentary, seeing them here,

picture of health, that is enough thanks that I and my colleagues in

need. How long have you been in the Force? Nearly 25 years. I've never

seen anything like we saw that night. It was human devastation. You

were presumably in the force when the IRA bomb hit Manchester.

Astonishingly, no loss of life then. That is right, yes. Buy-8-mac

devastating. Thank you, all of you, thank you so much. Are you nearly

fully recovered as well? Nearly there. Hopefully not long. It

doesn't look very nice! The first time I saw it, when it was not all

like it is now, I started crying. I'm not surprised. Thank you, all of

you. Very much. Continue to get well. Thank you. You can see the

full documentary on ITV tonight at 9pm. Let me bring you this news.

Devon and Cornwall police say they were notified yesterday of reports

of a missing four-year-old boy at an activity centre in Bedford. The

police said following an extensive search, the child has been located.

Very sadly, he was pronounced dead. The next of kin have been informed.

Police enquiries continue. We will bring you the latest news and sport

in a few moments. Before that here is the weather.

We've been seeing pictures of tropical storm Harvey and this is

how much rainfall we still have from the tropical storm. Half of it is

onshore. It is picking up the energy and depositing it. Reports show that

we've had roamed about a metre of rainfall so far. By the end of

tomorrow it could be 1.5 metres. Through the course of tomorrow it

will drift northwards and eastwards. The amount of rain will slowly ease.

It could worsen across Louisiana and Mississippi. Back home we've got

different weather. We've got a weather front drifting southwards.

The cloud is being taken with it. It'll be a fairly breezy day ahead

and we'd have a mixture of sunshine and showers. As that weather front

sinks sofa at it will brighten up. The cloud will move across. Part of

the South East are hanging on. It could reach 27 or 28. The dry

weather with sunny intervals, the Sun coming out across Wales. For

Cheshire into Cumbria and Lancashire, bright afternoon. There

will be a peppering of showers. Many of us will have a dry day with some

sunny skies. Through this evening and overnight, if anything it will

rejuvenate and we will see heavy showers clipping the South East. At

the same time we've got a band of rain coming in. For Scotland and

Northern Ireland, another breezy day. The two bands of rain are

trying to merge. Couple that with the northerly wind. It will feel

colder. We will have a good 10 degrees drop in temperature. A quick

look at Thursday. Showers feeding in from the West.

Hello it's Tuesday, it's 10.00am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

Japan's Prime Minister says the release of a ballistic missile over

his country says it is a threat. It isn't immediately clear when it's

launched if it is flying over Japan or towards Japan and my land in

Japan. Warning sirens went off on local people were told to take

cover. The United Nations Security Council

is to hold an emergency We'll be talking to eyewitnesses

in Northern Japan about what it was In an exclusive to this programme

we'll be speaking to women who have had to undergo surgery

to remove a controversial sterilisation implant,

used by the NHS, after they were I felt like I was dying, something

horribly, horribly wrong with me and I was going to die. Like I was being

poisoned and something slowly killing me from the outside.

We'll be speaking to a doctor who fits the device and woman

who is due to have a hysterectomy after having an implant fitted.

The deadline for "free childcare" for three and four year olds

From this Friday mums and dads can claim up to 30 hours -charities have

argued that the govermental scheme hasn't been funded properly.

Your experience is welcome, as always.

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of todays news.

The United Nations Security Council is to hold an emergency

meeting this afternoon, after North Korea fired a ballistic

The missile, which fell into the sea, triggered loudspeaker

alerts warning people on the island of Hokkaido to take cover.

Japan's Prime Minister said the launch represented a serious

The US disarmament ambassador called the test a 'provocation.'

The "catastrophic" flooding in Texas is expected to get much worse,

with officials warning they expect nearly half-a-million

With waters still rising, helicopters and hundreds

of specialist vehicles have been deployed in the rescue effort.

An emergency has also been declared in neighbouring Louisiana,

A four-year-old boy has been found dead in a swimming pool in Devon.

The police were called about a missing boy in Bedford. After a

surge by the helicopter, the child was found in a swimming pool where

he was taken to hospital and pronounced dead. The boy's kin have

been informed and enquiries are continuing.

An exclusive investigation for the Victoria Derbyshire

programme has revealed a sterilisation device called Essure

can lead to complications requiring full hysterectomies.

The sale of the implant has just been temporarily suspended

The manufacturer and regulator say the device is safe and the benefits

The number of uninsured drivers on British roads may be increasing

for the first time in more than a decade according to new data

The Motor Insurance Bureau, which processes claims by victims

of uninsured drivers, say there was an increase of 10%

That rise could suggest that there are more uninsured people

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30.

Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

use the hashtag Victoria live and If you text, you will be charged

Marjorie on Facebook has got in touch about the essure report. She

says I was sterilised in 1980, and then three years later I had to have

a hysterectomy. For those three years I had to have -- I was in

constant pain and I still haven't had any answer as to where those

metal clips had gone to. David says, how can the NHS justify the use of

this device. Thank you for those. Johanna Konta's wait for a maiden

tennis Grand Slam continues, the British number one's been

knocked out in the first round of the US Open,

losing to the unseeded Konta was among the favourites

for the title and could have ended Konta took the first set,

but the world number 78 fought back to leave Konta still looking

for that elusive first It would be quite obnoxious of me to

come in here expecting that I have a right to be in the second week. I am

very much aware for me to have that opportunity, I need to work very

hard. For me losing in the first round, it's obviously not ideal, as

it isn't anybody. I think everybody coming here wants to be in as long

as possible. I lost to the better player today and that is how sport

goes. There was a successful return

to Grand Slam tennis for Maria Sharapova following her 15

month doping ban. The Russian beat world number two

Simona Halep in three sets. Sharapova was given a wild card

to enter the main draw. She's currently ranked

146th in the world. We have just completed so well

against each other in the past and have produced some really good

tennis. Despite not playing a lot of matches coming into this, it almost

seemed like I had no right to win this match today. I somehow did. I

think that is what I am most proud of.

Heather Watson's poor run at Flushing Meadows continues.

The British number two was knocked out by Alizay

It's the seventh successive year Watson has gone out

A better day for Britain's men though.

Kyle Edmund won his first round match against Robin

He's joined in the second round by youngster Cameron Norrie

after his opponent, Dmitry Tursonov retired through injury

Norrie, who's ranked outside the world's top 200,

was leading by two sets to love at the time.

We're just an hour away from the start of the final day's

play in the second Test between England and the West

The West Indies require an unlikely 317 runs to win the match

BUT they do have all ten second innings wickets in hand.

England's batsmen dominated day four, with six of them scoring half

centuries in the second innings - Ben Stokes getting himself 58.

But it was Moeen Ali who who put the match in England's favour,

A win for England will seal the series.

And the problems continue to mount for Arsene Wenger,

beaten 4-0 by Liverpool on Sunday, now midfielder Alex

Oxlade-Chamberlain looks set to leave the Emirates and join Chelsea.

The England midfielder's contract expires next summer,

he's refused to commit his future at the Emirates.

Chelsea have declined to comment but it's understood they've agreed

Liverpool have agreed a club record fee of 48 million pounds for Leipzig

But the Guinea international won't move to Anfield until next summer.

We will have the headlines in half an hour.

This programme has learnt that a number of women are having

to undergo hysterectomies to remove a sterilisation device

The Essure implant is used to permanently sterilise women,

but can cause side effects and complications

One woman, who had her uterus removed as a result,

told us she was left suicidal due to the "unbearable" pain, and felt

The manufacturer says Essure is safe and the benefits outweigh the risks.

The sale of the implants in the EU was temporarily suspended this month

We bought you our reporter Jean MacKenzie's full report earlier -

It felt like I was being stabbed repeatedly, over and over,

and there was this hot, burning pain that never ended.

Laura remembers being fitted with essure, an implant used

I went from being a mum that was doing everything

with her children, to a mum that spent most of her days in bed,

unable to move without pain, to basically being a shell of myself

The small coils which are made from nickel and polyester are inserted

They are designed to trigger inflammation which causes

scar tissue to build up, eventually blocking the tubes.

If you look what it is made of, you start to get

10% of women are sensitive to nickel, there is an immediate

problem, but it is also made of a compound which is

When you heat this bottle up, it will release compounds that

are potentially dangerous into the water.

That heating happens in the human body.

While essure works well for many women, thousands have reported

side-effects and complications around the world.

We have seen a list of problems the NHS has had with the device.

These include the device perforating the fallopian tubes,

moving around and attaching to the stomach lining, being

I felt like I was a failure as a mother, that I was not

the mum that I used to be, that I should be, that

I was a burden on everybody around me that was having to pick

When women have complications it often requires a hysterectomy

How much evidence do you want to be in a position where you go,

I think it has a place for women who cannot have a keyhole operation

and they understand the risks and benefits of the

Do you think with this procedure or with this device

Would I suggest it is a procedure for my wife?

Well, I don't think I would because I think

for her there are probably very suitable alternatives which probably

This month the sale of essure was temporarily

But the regulator and manufacturer both stress this product is safe

I wish I had never had it put inside of me or lived through things

that nobody should ever have to live through.

Nobody should go through what I went through and yet there are so many

We can speak now to Toni Collard, who had Essure fitted six years ago.

She's had problems with it and is due to have a hysterectomy

Alison Harding had the device put in two years ago and had

a hysterectomy last year to remove it.

Carl Heneghan is a doctor and heads up the medical evidence team

He's been examining the evidence on Essure for three years.

And Dr Stephen Burrell is an NHS consultant who fits the device.

He's speaking to us from Luton and Dunstable Hospital.

Thank you all very much for talking to others. Since he had the device

fitted, Toni, how has your life been? I wanted the device fitting

because I had finished having babies. I was running my own

business and I needed to be ready to go and essure was sold to me that I

would be in and out in my lunch hour. It sounded perfect. I wasn't

told about these horrendous side effects. I went and had it fitted in

my lunch hour. Instantly, I was bleeding. I bled constantly for

months, months and months. That was the first sign, as I see it now. The

pain started instantly. I thought it would settle, it never did. I

visited the doctor and the doctor told me that things would settle.

Things never did. A few months later I had an ablation to stop the

bleeding. One of the coils was pulled out of the fallopian tube

when they did the ablation. I wasn't sterilised after that so I had to

have a laparoscopic sterilisation anyway. Which is what you are trying

to avoid, trying to avoid surgery? Yes. I have gone to have surgery

since then because the other essure Coyle has migrated into my uterus.

They cannot retrieve it. I have add two general anaesthetics, countless

local anaesthetics and I am due to have a total hysterectomy to remove

my uterus and take the essure a way which is causing me awful problems

on the 15th of October. What do you think about what you have enjoyed? I

think it is dreadful, I feel abused. I feel as though I have been abused.

I went in, nobody likes to have even a smear. So to have these potting,

it was going to be difficult, it wasn't going to be pleasant, but it

was going to be done. The constant procedures I have had to have done,

I do feel abused. Are you adamant there was no conversation with the

consultant about the potential risks? No, I was told I might spot

later, but I was told it would be no worse than having a smear or having

another coil fitted. I wasn't told about the effects that are happening

to me. Allison, you are nodding in agreement when I asked Hokkaido, was

there no conversation about potential risks? No, I was the same.

I was told the normal risks you might expect with any normal general

anaesthetic because I had to have my essure put under General. They

attempted it under without first, but they had to do it with a

general. I remember asking what it was made of. I was told it was

nothing more offensive than anything that was used in artificial knees or

hips. They said it was surgical steel and nylon and it was inert,

which isn't true. As a result, I have gone on to have excruciating

pain, debilitating pain because of it. How does that impact on your

daily life? Before the hysterectomy? I would be at work, I would spend my

evenings kneeling on the floor, crying from the pain. It was that

bad. That was every night. After the hysterectomy? I've been absolutely

fine. I have no more pain. I've got a statement from the manufacturers

which I will read in a moment but let me bring in Doctor Stephen

Borrell, a consultant who fixed the device. How do you respond to the

evidence? They are very distressing stories to hear and we always aim to

do the best for our patients. We never want to learn that any

procedure has caused any problems consequently. In relation to the

essure device, it has been evaluated in studies. My feeling is women

should be advised of this prior to the insertion. We should give as

accurate as we can. From the studies performed this is less than 1% of

women having this problem. Wit is no consolation, would you acknowledge?

Those 1% have had major surgery. Absolutely, but it is approximately

the same. The exact reasons for why these women suffered the symptoms,

we are not knowledgeable about. Are you shocked that in these cases they

were not given the information? That doesn't sound correct. Women always

have the consent form with me. There is no doubt the consent form was

signed, it is whether our conversation was had regarding the

risks. Are you shocked it did not happen? I am surprised it did not

happen. This is a message from Facebook, persuaded the hospital I

was having this fetid, since having it fitted I have suffered from

extreme tiredness, pain, bleeding that is so severe I cannot leave the

house. Muscle weakness, thinning hair. Most days I wake up feeling I

have not slept at all. These symptoms began very quickly after

the implant. They continued to affect me every day. Nobody seems to

take it seriously. I'm very angry. Another on Facebook, after it was

put in there was no follow-up. I had constant pain in my stomach. Carl

Hennigan, you head up the medical team at Oxford University. You've

heard what the NHS consultant says, he has looked at the evidence. I

work for the NHS as well as a GP and I am ashamed and I think the NHS

should be ashamed. We've got to take our head out of the sand. The

quality of evidence was ridiculous, it was so bad, it doesn't make sense

but we got outside of the research context. I don't know what study the

consultant is looking at, but the only study that ever compared the

device was more than tenfold increase of risk. That was 13 years

after the advice was on the market. In America it is being said we need

a clinical trial. That is 15 years after we've gone on the market. We

have people not telling the truth about studies. I am ashamed to say

to these women, I feel for you, we have let people down. We have this

systematic way of saying it is in your head. It has got to stop. We've

got to end that, we've got to take people seriously, and change the way

we do this. We've got to acknowledge the problem is that our existing.

What should happen to essure now? Sale has been suspended for three

months for commercial reasons, not for patient safety reasons. That

happens with all devices when they are going badly wrong. It is before

the regulator goes and says they've made a serious mistake. The

manufacturer said... "We would like to emphasise that

recent independent expert reviews of Essure carried out by medical

devices safety authorities have each addressed the safety of Essure

in detail and have each concluded that Essure has a positive

benefit/risk profile. This means that they consider Essure

is safe enough and also that it Many women with Essure rely on this

form of contraception "Bayer encourages any women

with questions to speak It says "Patient safety

and the appropriate use of Essure are the greatest priorities,

and the company fully stands behind Essure

as an appropriate choice for women Women who currently have Essure

in place can continue to feel The manufacturer would say that

because this is going to be a serious litigation case globally,

nearly 1 million women have had this. What will happen is it will be

removed from the market. That will happen. It has been withdrawn in

Finland. They've got serious problems in France. You will be left

with thousands of women with a lifelong device. How can we have a

situation where a manufacturer absolves itself of responsibility?

There was no evidence beyond one year on safety. Quite a few people

have mentioned that this device contains nickel, which some are

allergic to. What do you make of that? When it was approved in

America, you needed allergy testing. In 2011 the manufacturer convinced

the FTA to downgrade it to a warning. That means nobody was told

about the nickel. The manufacturer has shown it does leak nickel,

despite ten or 20% of women, it has been an allergy of the year because

it has consistent problems so we are removing it from jewellery. Why

would you want that in your body? Are you still an advocate of this

having heard what you've heard? I think it needs to be kept in

context. I appreciate what we've heard. It was published in July.

They found, examining the evidence, that it was safe. The vast majority

have no problem with it at all. I know the study that has been

mentioned about further surgery, 96% of women do not require any further

procedure. We are comparing a slightly different scenario. From my

perspective, not to say there aren't some issues, some women have

suffered very severely. We would like to reassure woman that the vast

majority of them will be absolutely fine with this device. I think we

need more information as to whether it is suitable for everyone. It is

not unusual that a surgery at full -- surgical device will have people

not reacting. You don't receive a feed from the manufacturers? I do

not receive any money. Nobody is checking on these women. You will

probably have the check to see if you are sterilised. Beyond that,

nobody is checking on these women. The problems may not reveal

themselves in the first three months. These ladies are going into

the GP and they are not believed. Every note of mine tells me that I

am depressed. I am not. I am fed up with the problems I am getting. All

these things are happening to me. We are a group of 300 women. We've not

made the same symptoms up. This is happening. There is a problem with

this device. I urge anyone having these problems to get themselves

checked out and be firm. So many similarities to the joiner mash

investigation -- vaginal mesh. We want to know about this, we want to

know that essure is as good as we think it is. We want to do the best

for our patients. We want them to make the decision. They can only do

that if they have the information upfront. Thank you for taking time

out of your day. We invited the manufacturer to appear in our film

and take part. They are keen to emphasise... Many women rely on it

without any side effects. We have asked the regulator to talk to us.

They have turned down the request, as have those who offer advice on

it. The MHRA told us they had no evidence to suggest this device was

unsafe. They told us the recent suspension did not suggest a risk

increasing to patient safety. They encourage the reporting of any

adverse incidents regardless of how long ago it was inserted. League 1,

it is important that the patient and health care professional discuss the

risks involved. Is the high cost of insurance

for young drivers making them take We'll speak to a woman who we speak

to a woman who broke her back and was told she'd never walk again

after being hit by -- uninsured driver as she crossed

the road. North Korea has fired a missile that

flew over north Japan It prompted an alert

and people were told to take cover The Japanese prime minister,

has expressed outrage and there'll be an emergency meeting of the UN

Security Council this afternoon. This was the sound that woke

most people up in parts We can speak now to Jonathan Knight,

an englishman living in Hirafu, in Northern Japan, and Alex Pettitt,

also from the UK, who's an Assistant Professor in Physics

at Hokkaido University, We can also talk to Professor Hazel

Smith, thank you for all talking to us. Tell us what it was like when

you heard those sirens. It woke me up. I was fast asleep. There is a

system that is like getting a text message on your phone. The message

said, a missile has been launched. The audio you played is the same one

that operates across Japan. You could hear in the background what

you just played. It says exactly what you said, to take cover. That

is what woke me up. You sound very calm. It is a sense of calm.

Everybody has gone to work as normal. The kids are back in school.

There was a second message 15 minutes after that said the missile

had passed over and landed 230 kilometres from where I live. It

said, don't touch any fragments. The Japanese are a stoic bunch. They

just carry on. Alex, how did you react? Confusion. We have emergency

warnings for typhoons but the sound was very different. When they read

out what the message said, it was, why would they be targeting us? It

does not make sense. We looked outside and there was nobody

panicking, everybody was calm. It was strange. We had so little time.

Hazel Smith, what will stop North Korea doing this? The ongoing

security contest between the major protagonist in the region, until

there is a security deal that resolves the underlying political

problems, they will continue with the missile development programme,

which is what this test was and they will continue to develop a nuclear

weapons programme. We know they will continue to do this because they

have us. Whether we agree with them or not, they will build a nuclear

deterrent which prevents anybody invading them and so they will

continue with this programme. What chance is there ever of being a

security deal? We have seen major conflicts in the past where

protagonists have hated each other, being resolved. We have seen

Ireland, where John Major and Tony Blair got around the table with the

IRA, people they considered terrorists. In Colombia, there has

been a major peace deal after the end of an extraordinary brutal civil

war. Both parties have now come together. But what that needs on all

sides is a measure of very brave diplomacy, whereby people will come

together will take the decision to come together because they will

argue that OK, the United States is much stronger than North Korea but

nevertheless it would be a terrible catastrophe if there was a military

conflict. North Korea is small, but it is able to do damage. In that

position, nobody can win in the short term in a military conflict.

The only answer, is there anybody who will put their head above the

parapet and say, we will go for this diplomacy with people we considered

distasteful and damaging to their own people, and of course there is

always lots of problems in the last 20, 30 years. That is the big

question. Thank you very much, Hazel Smith, Jonathan Knight and Alex.

With the News here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom.

The United Nations Security Council is to hold an emergency

meeting this afternoon, after North Korea fired a ballistic

The missile, which fell into the sea, triggered loudspeaker

alerts warning people on the island of Hokkaido to take cover.

Japan's Prime Minister said the launch represented a serious

The US disarmament ambassador called the test a "provocation."

The "catastrophic" flooding in Texas is expected to get much worse,

with officials warning they expect nearly half-a-million

With waters still rising, helicopters and hundreds

of specialist vehicles have been deployed in the rescue effort.

An emergency has also been declared in neighbouring Louisiana,

A four-year-old boy has died in hospital after being found

Police were called to reports of a missing child at the Knapp

After a search assisted by the police helicopter the child

was found in a swimming pool on the site and taken to hospital

The boy's next of kin have been informed and

An exclusive investigation for this programme has revealed

a sterilisation device called Essure can lead to complications requiring

The sale of the implant has just been temporarily suspended

The manufacturer and regulator say the device is safe and the benefits

That's a summary of the latest news, join me for BBC

Johanna Konta's wait for a maiden tennis Grand Slam continues,

the British number one's been knocked out in the first

round of the US Open, losing to the unseeded

Konta was among the favourites for the title and could have ended

Konta took the first set, but the world number 78 fought back

to leave Konta still looking for that elusive first

There was a successful return to Grand Slam tennis

for Maria Sharapova following her 15 month doping ban.

The Russian beat world number two Simona Halep in three sets.

And the problems continue to mount for Arsene Wenger,

beaten 4-0 by Liverpool on Sunday, now midfielder Alex

Oxlade-Chamberlain looks set to leave the Emirates and join Chelsea.

The England midfielder's contract expires next summer,

he's refused to commit his future at the Emirates.

Liverpool have agreed a club record fee of 48 million pounds for Leipzig

But the Guinea international won't move to Anfield until next summer.

And Liverpool have confirmed a deal for RB Leipzig's Naby Keita to join

England's batsmen dominated day four, with six of them scoring half

centuries in the second innings - Ben Stokes getting himself 58.

But it was Moeen Ali who who put the match in England's favour,

A win for England will seal the series.

Some MPs are calling for an urgent review after it emerged that a 5

year old Christian girl had been placed with Muslim foster

carers reportedly against the wishes of her family.

Children being fostered are normally placed with families of the same

cultural background - but a shortage of foster carers can

In a moment we are hoping to speak to a charity that helps

disadvantaged children through fostering or adoption.

Joining me from Westminster is Neil Carmichael,

the former Conservative MP, who launched an inquiry into foster

care when he was chairman of the Education Select Committee.

There are not that many facts we know about, this particular story.

But what is your reaction to the broad headline? It is difficult to

get down to the facts, because these are personal situations, individuals

trapped in a situation which is not good. It is an acceptable for this

to have arisen, where a young child is in a situation where neither her

cultural or language is being properly respected. Of course, the

United Nations makes it clear such considerations must be taken into

account. So the council has not done that and I think it is a failure of

children's services. To be fair, we don't know if the council did not do

that, we do not know? The outcome is what we can judge this on and the

outcome is unacceptable, that this young girl is in the situation she

has found herself in. Despite pleading to her family, pleading to

the council. There are questions to be asked. One is, where independent

sources of fostering consulted, or accessed? Of course, the enquiry

which I intend to have before the general election, would have

discussed the number of foster carers we do have and the support

they get for situations they are in. We know there aren't enough. That is

right. That is why we need to encourage more people to become

foster carers and that is one of the thrusts the enquiry would have had.

Again, as I say, we don't know the full facts of the story. Would it be

unacceptable to you if there were no other foster carers available, would

it be unacceptable for this Christian child to be placed with

Muslim foster carers? In this situation, I think the answer must

be yes. The Children's Commissioner will be launching an enquiry. Quite

right too. The outcome of the decisions that were made in Tower

Hamlets about this particular child have not been taken into account,

the proper processes. It is very clear cultural language and issues

should be taken into account. These were not taken into account because

the outcome would have been different if they had been. What we

have to do is ask a few questions about the number of foster carers

that are available in Tower Hamlets and elsewhere. Whether or not the

council was consulting other councils. It is not just foster

carers within their geographical area that can help. There are other

possibilities. The central point you make, and it is the right one, is we

don't have enough foster carers. It is important to think carefully

about the support they get from the councils they operate under and that

they do get appropriate payment and support where that is needed. We can

talk to carol from Action For Children which helps disadvantaged

children through fostering or adoption. Thank you for talking to

us, we cannot talk about this particular case, but tell us about

the guidance when it comes to how children are fostered in terms of

looking at their cultural or religious background? The guidance

generally is you try to make as good a match as possible for the child.

You take into consideration the cultural aspects of their

background. In general, that would be the preference, that you find the

best match for the child. It's not just their cultural, but also all

their needs can be met by that foster carer. How do you react to a

Christian child, we are being told being placed with Muslim foster

carers? I don't know the individual situation so I cannot comment. You

can see a scenario where that could be justified? There could be

circumstances. A child could be placed with a non-Moslem family or

other circumstances, it depends on the needs of the child. If it is

true the child didn't speak the language the cost -- foster carers

spoke, that would be unusual? Yes, because how would the needs of the

child be met if there would be a language barrier. Clearly, the

child's needs have to be paramount and the foster carer has to be in a

position to meet those needs. Thank you very much to you both.

Tower Hamlets council said in a statement that they can't

The Department of Education told us that...

is an important consideration in this decision and local

authorities will take this into account alongside the full

range of the child's needs when making fostering arrangements."

Parents of three and four-year-olds in England have just a few days left

From this Friday, working mums and dads can claim up to 30 hours

But charities say the governmental scheme has not been properly funded

and will put too much pressure on parents and nurseries

There have been also been technical problems with the application

process which mean thousands of families have so far

Let's talk to Ian Morgan, who runs a nursery in Berkshire

and says he can't afford to offer 30 hours of free childcare.

Edward Burdall owns several nurseries in Sheffield.

He says it is possible to offer the 30 hours without charging

Nicola Canning has just had her 30 hours confirmed after applying

And Becks Hudson has a three-year-old son and says

the government scheme is not sustainable.

Thank you for coming on the programme. You both run nurseries,

you both have opposite viewpoints on this. Edward, you say you can afford

to offer this 30 hours of free childcare. Ian, you say you can't.

Why? Basically, my hourly rate for delivering childcare is ?5 an hour.

The government is offering me for pounds 35 so for every hour I am

making a 65p loss, which for 15 hours in the year, that equates to

about ?400 and 430 hours, that equates to ?600 plus. Why can't you

offer it for ?4 34? I have excellent resources at my nursery. I have very

well-qualified staff. I offer children meals and things. A parent

is getting an outstanding service from us. Edward, presumably you have

qualified staff and offer meals, how are you managing to do it? We get,

in Sheffield, a base rate of ?4 seven, but like a lot of local

authorities, that varies across the city. That is down to the settlement

the local authority get. We offer the 30 hours to all our parents and

we can achieve that. How do we achieve that? We achieve that by

knowing our own setting and we have an outstanding setting which

delivers food with no extras and we are able to do that. We don't cut

corners, but we have found with the tools we are given, the rate we have

got, it is something we have to deliver and we do do that. Without

cutting corners, so it is not about cutting members of staff? No, we

follow the ratio across all our settings. We are inspected by Ofsted

and we have fully trained staff. We have been credited with outstanding

in one of our settings and the other two are good. We offer the 30 hours

and we have space. What I would say, the uptake of 30 hours has been very

slow in our area, but the rate per hour, which is what we all talk

about is what we live and breathe and that is not a level playing

field across the UK. That the problem.

Sheffield's settlement from the government clearly is not as much.

That is dictated by 95% of the councils. Obviously, it is different

across the UK. Ian can do it on a lesser rate than you. Because he's

in the North of England that does not make sense. We know that some

can deliver it in parts of the country on the figures they are

given. I cannot. I want my nursery to make a profit. I need to make a

profit. And I am not prepared to compromise. My profit goes back into

the nursery. I've invested ?170,000 into the nursery. Let's bring in

colour -- in Nicola. You are in favour in principle, presumably? I

have four children, I am eligible for 30 hours, but it does not work

in Suffolk. The rate to the council is ?4 31 but we get ?3 87. I am

making a significant loss. As a parent I would needs to make it up

in some form. You are asking parents to chip in. It is the only way we

can make it work. Why is your rates ?3 87? We've done a Freedom of

Information request as to why the rate is so different. The government

promised there would be a minimum of ?4 per hour. Norfolk is one of the

lowest paid providers. They are getting the money from the

government but not giving it to you? Yes. There is a gap in the Suffolk

funding rate. Winners that going? We have asked. We are scrambling around

but it equates to ?500,000. Where are you? My child has been at this

nursery since he was ten months old. He has had an amazing care. The

nursery is needing to make up the shortfall. My nursery has been

fantastic. You mean if parents cannot make up the shortfall? Yes,

some nurseries have consulted and made it very clear in order to keep

the quality, the shortfall needs to be made up. That is a ?1 50

shortfall. Some parents can afford it and others cannot. I can and I'm

more than happy to make up the shortfall to enable my nursery to

keep running. Final thought. You've just had 30 hours confirmed. There

have been a few problems. Briefly, the Department for Education says,

if you can show that you tried to register you will still get your

place. It is not just registering, you then need to pass it on, there

is another hold-up then. It took me several phone calls, several

e-mails, sometimes they give it to you on the phone and others give it

online. The Minister for children said the 30 offer is being delivered

across the country with 15,000 children benefiting. Providers are

committed to offering 30 hours and the additional three are having a

really positive impact. Group has brought here is -- parents and

providers together. They've bought out the early implementers and it

did work. They paid them a high rate. We brought you the news that a

four-year-old boy has died after being found in a swimming pool. A

reporter is in Plymouth. What can you tell us? Devon and Cornwall

police were called to the activity centre just before 3pm yesterday

afternoon to reports of a missing four-year-old boy. They carried out

an extensive search. The child was found in a swimming pool at the

site. He was taken to the hospital where he was pronounced dead. The

next of kin have been informed and the death is treated as unexplained

at this stage. It happened in a week-long summer holiday camp out

organised by narcotics anonymous for members and their families. The

charity has released a statement and it says... Tragically, something has

gone horrifically wrong. The statement goes on to say that we are

devastated that a truly wonderful week ended so tragically. Thank you.

New figures obtained by the BBC suggest levels of uninsured driving

may be rising for the first time in more than a decade.

Claims handled by the Motor Insurers Bureau increased by almost 10%

The average cost for a driver aged between 18-20 is ?973 per year. If

that leading to a rise in uninsured drivers?

He organises car rallies in Essex and pays ?1,600 a year

for his motor insurance and says he understands why some

young people take the risk of driving uninsured.

Laura Wellington is also here, she was hit by a car being driven

by a drunk and uninsured driver as she crossed the road.

What happened? I broke my back and I had head injuries, I fractured my

skull and tore my shoulder. Spinal and head injuries. Pretty horrific.

Yes. I was in a back brace for three months from my spinal fractures. It

was three years ago and I am still recovering. I still have a lot of

pain and memory problems and migraines. And you were simply

crossing the road. I was with two friends at the time. We were going

back to the house, got off the bus, crossing the road, he hit me. He

pleaded guilty. What punishment did he receive? A 17 month driving ban

and a small fine. A few points. Is that it? Yes. The sign was less than

the average cost. It was about ?300? It was very small. He was not

insured which means there is no big insurance company standing by to pay

out compensation. So he's got nothing to do with that side of

things? I have a claim against the MIB but, yes, he has nothing to do

with it. It is a very slow process. Do you feel the driver has got away

with this? Wrote this I've tried to not connect with him because it is

something I have no control over. I have so much I can focus on like

getting myself better. I don't think the punishment is strong enough

because the amount of money that he was fined is a fraction of how much

it is to insure your car for a year. I can see why people do not, because

people are willing to take that risk. As I mentioned in the

introduction, up to ?1000 for people between the age of 20 to insure

their car for a year. That's a lot of money. But what you experienced

is outrageous. Yes, and still ongoing. It will be going on for

many years to come. He's served his 17 month ban and just getting on

with life for all I know. If the insurance was lower, do you think

that drunk driver would have been insured? Yes, I don't know

personally about him but there would be a lot more people insured. The

money is definitely stopping people. Come closer. I know it has been a

bit last-minute. Is it the price? Is it the cost of insurance? I reckon.

I know a few people who are not insured. It is an extremely pricey

game. You know young people who cannot afford it? Or have made the

choice? A bit of both. I know people who cannot afford it, some people do

it because they've got no interest. What do you mean? They don't care?

Basically. I don't know if you heard what happened to Laura, hit by an

uninsured driver who was drunk, spinal injuries, head injury. Do you

think people who decide not to insure their car think about those

potential consequences? I don't think they do at first. I think they

think it is like everyday driving. It will never happen to them. My mum

was a victim as well. Her car was written off by an uninsured driver.

It is not fair on the people that end up in accidents because they can

claim off anybody. Exactly. The person who hit Laura was given a 17

month driving ban, some points and a fine. We know that some people are

crushing them, is that more of a deterrent? It is a good idea. I

think the vehicle should be disposed of. Thank you very much for your

company today. We are back tomorrow at 9am. The BBC newsroom is next.

My speed record for a full amputation of the leg

above the knee is 92 seconds. I intend to break that record today.

You kill many more people than I do.

Would you like to examine me? Certainly not!