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Hello, it's Wednesday at 9am. In Joanna Gosling. Welcome to the

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programme. The United Nations Security Council condemns North

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Korea's firing of a ballistic missile over Japan during emergency

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talks in New York last night. Delegates said the weapons test was

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outrageous. It's time for the North Korean

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regime to recognise the danger they The United States

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will not allow their lawlessness to continue, and

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the rest of the world is with us. Theresa May has arrived in Japan

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for a planned three day visit - telling reporters that China must

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put more pressure on Pyongyang. Also this morning, we will have the

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latest from Houston where a night-time curfew has been imposed

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to stop polluting. And more stories of extraordinary rescues.

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We'll be speaking to some people caught up in those rescue efforts.

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Will Channel 4's new Bake Off be the show stopper they were hoping for.

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Did the new presenters carry it off and how money people watched the

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first show? Sorry, Sue, you did say

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white tent, didn't you? Welcome to the programme,

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we're live until 11 this morning. We want to hear your verdict

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on the Great British Bake Off of course -

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especially if you were a big fan of the programme

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when it was on the BBC. We'll also find out why fear

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of crime is a big concern for many teenagers and young people and ask

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what more can be done Do get in touch on all the stories

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we're talking about this morning - use the hashtag Victoria LIVE

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and if you text, you will be charged Our main news today, there has been

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unanimous condemnation of North Korea's firing of a ballistic

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missile over Japan at a meeting of the United Nations Security Council.

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The regime has described the launch is the first step of operations in

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the Pacific. The UN Security Council has described the launch is

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outrageous, but it stopped short of threatening further action against

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North Korea. Here we have North Korea's

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not-so-diplomatic response to the slap on the wrist

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for its latest provocation, proudly releasing stills

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of its missile launch over Japan. Just as diplomats were meeting

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in New York in an emergency gathering of the UN

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Security Council, working on the first

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step in a response to North Korea's destabilising

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activity. The world is united

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against North Korea, It is time for the North Korean

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regime to recognise the danger The United States will not

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allow their lawlessness to continue, and the rest of the world

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is with us. The meeting result was unanimous,

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but inconsequential. All members, including

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Russia and China, signed on to a statement of condemnation,

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but no sign of new sanctions. The ink on the last

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round of North Korea And China, for one, has said

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all sides are to blame for the escalation in the region,

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after President Trump repeated all options were on the table,

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and South Korea responded with its own show of force,

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in a test-bombing near its Beijing has called on Washington

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and Seoul to freeze their joint military exercises, as a means

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of getting Pyongyang But the US has made clear

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its commitment to its allies ..Showing no sign the Trump

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administration will be Our Correspondent Yogita Limaye

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is in Seoul for us this morning. Watmore has North Korea said? The

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most important bit of that statement we read from the country's official

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news agency is that it said this missile test, which it conducted

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yesterday, is a Pirelli used to contain Guam, so that plan to attack

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Guam is a consideration. -- is a Pirelli prelude. The clear message

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from Pyongyang today is that it has no intention to stop. The statement

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from North Korea coming hours before the UN Security Council unanimously

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condemned its act yesterday. I think it shows the kind of limitation and

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how limited control the international community has over

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North Korea's actions. It's only been three and a half weeks since

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very stringent sanctions were passed by the United Nations, banning

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exports from the country, including coal, its biggest export. But that

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hasn't stopped North Korea from conducting more missile tests. A

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statement today, an indicator that there will be to come. Thank you.

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North Korea is expected to be high on the agenda as Theresa May begins

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a visit to Japan today, her first as Prime Minister. She will be hoping

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to discuss a post Brexit trade deal. She has described Japan as a

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like-minded nation and a natural trading partner. Ben Wright is

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travelling with the Prime Minister. Theresa May has just arrived

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here for the start of this three-day trip to Japan,

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her first as Prime Minister. A hugely important trip for her,

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clearly in the context of the North Korean action,

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the missile that flew over Japan She will be talking to the Japanese

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Prime Minister about that. She described the action

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is outrageous on the plane. Clearly expects China to be doing

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more, and that'll be The other big topic

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is trade, obviously. Japan has been quite clear

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and candid, publicly It has so many businesses working

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in the UK it wants to know how Brexit talks are going,

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what sort of transitional arrangements the UK is looking for,

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and I think Theresa May is going to have to produce some

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answers during her discussions here with Japanese politicians

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and business leaders. We will keep you updated with those

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talks and much more on North Korea. Let's go to Annita McVeigh in the

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newsroom with a summary of the rest of the news.

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A night-time curfew has been imposed in Houston in Texas in a bid to

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deter looting in the wake of tropical storm Harvey, which is now

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heading for Louisiana. At least 20 people have died and 30,000 have

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been forced from their homes with more than 3000 having been rescued

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from the floodwaters. Large swathes of Texas remain underwater with

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almost 52 inches of rain fall since the hurricane made landfall on

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Friday. Keith Doyle has more. But, five days after it first hit

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the coast of Texas, Harvey continues These are some of the residents

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of 20 nursing homes. Another 20 hospitals have also been

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evacuated across the region. 3,400 people have been rescued,

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with the authorities reporting that It was the scariest

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thing we've ever seen. 51 inches of rain has fallen so far,

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a record for the USA, and has swamped parts of Houston

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and southern Texas. 30,000 people have been forced out

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of their homes by the floodwater. The Red Cross has warned people

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could be in shelters for months. President Trump visited

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Corpus Christi, 220 miles He was briefed by state

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and federal teams co-ordinating We won't say congratulations,

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we don't want to do that. We'll congratulate each other

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when it's all finished. He is determined not to repeat

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the mistakes of George Bush, In Houston, the mayor has introduced

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a night-time curfew, To the west of this vast city,

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two huge reservoirs are overflowing. Harvey's path is

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slow-moving and erratic. This force of nature

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may not be spent yet. Kezia Dugdale has resigned

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as leader of Scottish Labour, after less than two years

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in the post. The Lothians MSP insists

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she is leaving the party in a much She's also rejected the idea her

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departure has anything to do with her previous criticism

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of Jeremy Corbyn. Most political leaders quit

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at a moment of crisis, I've decided that I think

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the Labour Party is very It's made tremendous

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progress from the state that I found it in two,

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2.5 years ago, when it was It's in a much better

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state than I found it. Now it's time to pass that baton

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onto the next person. We've had five national

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elections in 2.5 years. Now it's time to move on and let

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the next person have four years A Christian girl, who is reported

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to have been fostered by a Muslim family who didn't speak English,

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should instead live with a family The London borough of Tower Hamlets

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council, insists the 5 year old was placed with an English

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speaking family of mixed race and that there were inaccuracies

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in the way the case was reported. The authority says cultural

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background and proximity to a child's family are always

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considered when choosing The number of people waiting more

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than a year for an operation in Wales has risen by more than 400%

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in the past four years. A freedom of information request

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from the Royal College of Surgeons showed more than 3,500

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people waited more than 12 months for surgery

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in the year ending March 2017. Last month, the Labour government

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in Wales pledged ?50 million to help tackle the problem -

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but the Welsh Conservatives said the country's NHS

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was "staring into an abyss". in five people struggling with debt

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have had their credit card limit raised without requesting it.

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That's according to research from the charity citizens advice, which

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has called for the practice of giving credit without consent to be

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stopped. UK Finance, the body which represents some of the UK's biggest

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lenders says it's working with people to help people manage their

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debt. Andy Verity reports. Borrowing on credit cards

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has been growing by 9%, far faster than wages,

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and Citizens' Advice says irresponsible practices are keeping

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people in debts that they cannot Tracy Banham ran into trouble

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when her small business She and her partner used credit

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cards to plug the financial holes. Well, it got to point

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where I was just paying off I were actually not -

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at one point, on one credit card, I were paying ?700 a month,

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and probably ?60 of that That was just one

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of the credit cards. Consumers have borrowed about ?200

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billion on unsecured loans, with about a third of that

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on credit cards. Yet one in five borrowers have been

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given higher credit limits, On 2.2 million credit card accounts,

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borrowers spent more on charges and fees than on repayments,

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pushing them further into debt. Citizens' Advice says,

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if that goes on for two years, lenders should have to contact

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borrowers and offer help, such We think the most important thing

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is that credit card companies should stop raising credit limits

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without consulting the customer. We think this is a second thing

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the regulator can do to give better guidance for affordability checks

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for people who are extending The body that represents most credit

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card lenders says it is taking steps to prevent struggling borrowers

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being offered more credit, and that it is working

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with regulators to help people The Great British Bake Off was back

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on television last night for the first time since its move to Channel

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4. Viewers tuned in to see if the proof was in the pudding, hoping the

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recipe for the hit show hadn't changed too much was that this

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series see some alterations for the line-up as presenting duo Noel

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Fielding and sandy talks against new judge Pru Leith join Paul Hollywood

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on the team. My boys are chanting about the

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roles. We were bowled over by the new show. One reviewer said she

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didn't want to enjoy it because there wasn't any Mary Berry, but she

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thoroughly did. Let's get some sport

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with Katherine Downes, a nd a historic win

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for the West Indies yesterday? And with the transfer window closing

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tomorrow it will be interesting Michael Atherton has said it's one

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of the biggest upsets ever in Test cricket. After the first test, Sir

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Curtly Ambrose, the West Indies legend said his nation had serious

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problems when it came to Test cricket. Geoffrey Boycott said the

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West Indies side was one of the worst he had seen in more than half

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a century. That's because in the first test England beat the West

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Indies by an innings and 209 runs, an absolutely massive victory for

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England. People were saying, what a shame, what happened to a once great

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cricketing nation. But what a turnaround now. A win that has

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breathed life back into the series which Michael Vaughan has said could

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have been one of the saddest for Test cricket. The West Indies win,

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what went wrong for England? Some say it was a rather bold declaration

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by the captain Joe Root, declaring late on the fourth day to give the

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West Indies a target of 322. Some people say it was a series of missed

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catches which cost England the test. Former captain Alastair Cook let a

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couple slip through his fingers. Joe Root says he thinks it was their

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second a performance that hurt them when they were bowled out for just

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258. Take nothing away from the West Indies, batting brilliantly and Shai

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Hope made history by becoming the first man ever to score centuries in

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both innings in a first-class match at Headingley. And it's the first

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time the West Indies have won eight test in England in 17 years and they

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have answered some of their critics in the process. It gives England

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plenty of food for thought with the series tied at 1-1 with one left to

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go. And the Ashes is looming at the end of the year.

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It'll be interesting to see what happens at Arsenal with the transfer

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window closing. Arsene Wenger, often criticised for being quiet during

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the transfer window, but it's been fairly busy at Arsenal over the last

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24 hours. No deals done yet, no players bought over the last 24

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hours for Arsene Wenger. But plenty of dealing and discussion going on.

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Let's start by talking about Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain. He's turned down

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a move to Chelsea despite the fact Arsenal and Chelsea had agreed a

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deal of ?40 million. We understand he thinks that Chelsea would play

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him in a position he's not happy in and he would rather go to Liverpool.

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We understand that over the next 24 hours before the window closes,

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tomorrow evening, Liverpool are expected to make an offer for Alex

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Oxlade-Chamberlain. The other bit of business at Arsenal is all about

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Alexis Sanchez. Arsenal have rejected a bid of ?50 million by

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Manchester City. Sanchez scored 24 goals last season. You can see why

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City are interested, also why Arsenal aren't interested in selling

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him. In fact they will only really consider a deal with City if they

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get to get Raheem Sterling down to Arsenal as part of that deal. Pep

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Guardiola the City manager has said he just wants to buy Alexis Sanchez

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out right. We understand such -- Sanchez isn't happy at Arsenal. It

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is a bit of a mess at Arsenal at the moment and they've only got two days

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to sort it out. Thank you. It has already had a catastrophic

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impact but Storm Harvey still has more havoc to wreak on the people of

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Texas. The scale of the rainfall is astonishing. The total amount of

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rainfall during the devastating hurricane Katrina in 2005 was 6.5

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trillion gallons. Harvey has already poured out something in the region

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of 14-15,000,000,000,000 gallons and experts are predicting as much as 25

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trillion gallons might fall by the time the storm passes.

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President Trump has been to the area to see the devastation for himself

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and praised the work of the emergency services.

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These are words used to describe this monster known as Harvey.

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But the job you've done is very special, and I said let's fly over

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and see these great people, the nerve centre, really.

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And we appreciate it very much, and millions of people appreciate

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But the world is watching, and the world is very impressed

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Over 20 people are reported to have died and coastguard air crews

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from around the US are helping with the rescue effort.

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That's just one of the many dramatic rescues being carried out while

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people cope with the aftermath of that terrible flooding. It is

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suggested it is going to get worse. Nigel Arnell is a climate

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scientist who can tell us about the scale of the storm,

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and address the thorny issue of whether this can be meaningfully

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attributed to climate change. Also Hailey-Ann Booth,

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a Brit living in Texas She is with two friends she rescued

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Joshua and Julia Jackson. And Pastor Gregg Matte, who's

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helping with the relief effort. What happened? What situation where

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you been? We had a few inches of water in the first-floor apartment

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but we were living on the second story. We were intending to stay

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throughout the storm. Bates started swarming in our parking lot, telling

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us that the levy was going to be the lock -- we were going to get a whole

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other story worth of water and we needed to get out. Since that

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morning we've been able to watch the water rise. It climbed several

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inches in under an hour. It was rising fast and we were hoping to be

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able to wait it out with some of our neighbours, when the local police

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came through and said it's time to go. We went with them. Were you

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involved in helping to get them out? I wish I was. We have a truck but

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it's not high enough to drive through water. We thankfully met

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them at a local shelter. We had to drive 30 minutes, to go and collect

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them from the shelter and bring them to our house. Where you are you OK?

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Thankfully my neighbourhood is like a little island. We are 130 feet

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above sea level in my neighbourhood. But we are surrounded by lots of

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neighbourhoods that are flooded. Just four miles away there are

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houses underwater and we have a river to the south and the West. To

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the east we have a dam which is apparently about to break its levy.

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My whole neighbourhood is fine but it's just we are surrounded by lots

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of water. How are you all feeling right now? There are concerns the

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dam might break its levy. Water is being released to try to mitigate

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the impact of the flooding and more water is expected to fall, how

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worried are you? It's going to get worse before it gets better. They've

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already evacuated thousands of homes just in my school district. That's

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students and friends of mine. They are already evacuated and the

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schools are open and shelters are inundated with people. Schools are

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flooded and we only went back to school two weeks ago. My own

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children haven't gone back to school, they were supposed to go on

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Monday. Their school is closed as it's being used as a shelter right

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now. We don't know what's going to happen. Most of us are worrying

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about keeping our friends and neighbours alive and well. Property

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can be replaced but lives can't. The death toll is far less than any

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storm of Acomb parable size. Greg, you with the church helping to

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rescue people, what sort of rescue missions have you been involved in?

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My son yesterday went out brute rescues with our neighbours. -- boat

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rescues. He went out on a rescue and actually rescued a family that went

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to school with him previously and then also one of our staff members

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was stranded. He's been involved in boat rescues, we've been sending

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cards to people, trucks to people, Bates to people, to try to get them

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out. And literally there are so many members of our church is devastated

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and flooded that we can't even keep up with the numbers any more of

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what's happened. It's become overwhelming. They are all being

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rescued and brought back to safety and it's been pretty amazing to see

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all of those things happening. What comfort can you give those people?

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The comfort I can give them is that the waters recede, the level rise.

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God has a plan for them. Even though this is such a difficult thing, we

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can trust there is a higher plan and God is involved in this and taking

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care of us and we are going to make it. We are going to go another day.

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There's a verse in the Bible that says the joy of the Lord will be our

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strength. Finding a deeper happiness and peace. It's not about the stuff,

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it's about comfort, it's about our homes, the place where we live.

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They've been, in a sense, attacked with the reins. Finding a comfort

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that is deeper than that and higher than that, and that being found in

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God our Creator and the Lord Jesus. Nigel, it's extraordinary to look at

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the statistics on how many trillions of gallons of water have been dumped

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and ultimately it is thought it might end up being around 25

:24:12.:24:16.

trillion gallons of water. How is it that such a huge quantity of water

:24:17.:24:21.

is being dumped like this? It is an astonishing amount of water. We

:24:22.:24:24.

heard on the report about 50 inches of rain has fallen over the last few

:24:25.:24:29.

days. London gets about 25 inches of rain in a year. Leeds gets about 40

:24:30.:24:34.

inches in a year. If a massive amount of water. Houston is a wet

:24:35.:24:39.

place but this is a truly unprecedented amount of rain. The

:24:40.:24:42.

reason there has been such a lot of rain with this particular hurricane,

:24:43.:24:46.

far more than with hurricane Katrina, is that it's been very wet.

:24:47.:24:50.

A loss of water in the atmosphere and it's been slow moving. It's

:24:51.:24:55.

stayed over south-east Texas for several days and has continued to be

:24:56.:24:59.

enforced by evaporation from the oceans. It's dumping the rain as it

:25:00.:25:03.

moves slowly across the southern parts of the US. Climate change is a

:25:04.:25:09.

controversial subject in America, particularly with Donald Trump in

:25:10.:25:14.

charge. Is there a scientific link between what is happening here and

:25:15.:25:20.

climate change? There is a link but it is rather complicated. We are

:25:21.:25:23.

confident global temperatures are rising and the sea level and sea

:25:24.:25:27.

temperatures are rising. Together that makes hurricanes more intense,

:25:28.:25:32.

contain more rainfall and the storm surges you get with hurricanes tend

:25:33.:25:35.

to be worse because the sea level is higher. So the waves are bigger. But

:25:36.:25:40.

hurricanes are also influenced by the way the atmosphere works and the

:25:41.:25:45.

atmospheric circulation. One of the things that has been particularly

:25:46.:25:49.

characteristic about Harvey has been that it's been particularly slow

:25:50.:25:53.

moving. As a feature of the atmospheric circulation. We don't

:25:54.:25:56.

know whether the reason why the hurricane has been very slow moving

:25:57.:25:59.

is because the circulation has changed because of climate change.

:26:00.:26:02.

It's too early to tell. But we do think that the higher sea

:26:03.:26:08.

temperatures have made the intensity of the hurricane stronger, the

:26:09.:26:11.

higher temperatures that have made the amount of water in the

:26:12.:26:17.

atmosphere longer, but we can't say it's duration in this case. Josh,

:26:18.:26:24.

you were telling us about the information you were given on

:26:25.:26:27.

leaving your apartment when the waters were rising and the levy was

:26:28.:26:30.

going to be released. What are your thoughts on the way this has been

:26:31.:26:36.

handled by the authorities? Honestly, I think that they've been

:26:37.:26:47.

handling it surprisingly well. They are releasing the water from the

:26:48.:26:53.

levies in a controlled way, trying to prevent them from breaking. The

:26:54.:26:58.

authorities, as they come in, they went door-to-door and were very

:26:59.:27:03.

thorough in making sure our building was cleared. And they made sure they

:27:04.:27:12.

got us and our pets out, and that we had plenty of time to get what we

:27:13.:27:17.

needed pact. And to make sure that we found shelter of one form or

:27:18.:27:25.

another. The guy that pulled us of the boat was from Ohio. They are

:27:26.:27:31.

coming in from all over the United States, and they are working well

:27:32.:27:37.

together. We are incredibly grateful. Thank you very much.

:27:38.:27:40.

Still to come, more than one third of teenagers are living in fear of

:27:41.:27:47.

crime with one in four boys worried about being assaulted. We'll hear

:27:48.:27:48.

more in a moment. And it is back, but will the Great

:27:49.:27:58.

British Bake Off's new format win over audiences? We are joined by

:27:59.:28:01.

previous winner and some fans of the programme.

:28:02.:28:06.

Good morning. There's been unanimous condemnation of North Korea's firing

:28:07.:28:17.

of a missile over Japan at a United Nations Security Council meeting.

:28:18.:28:21.

Pyongyang has described the launch as the first step of military

:28:22.:28:25.

operations in the Pacific. The Security Council has demanded the

:28:26.:28:27.

country abandons its nuclear weapons programme but has stopped short of

:28:28.:28:31.

threatening new sanctions. The world is united

:28:32.:28:34.

against North Korea. It's time for the North Korean

:28:35.:28:35.

regime to recognise the danger they The United States

:28:36.:28:40.

will not allow their lawlessness to continue, and

:28:41.:28:43.

the rest of the world is with us. And the rest of

:28:44.:28:47.

the world is with us. Theresa May will be hoping to

:28:48.:29:05.

discuss a post-Brexit trade deal in Japan. She has described Japan as a

:29:06.:29:10.

natural trading partner. A night-time curfew has been imposed

:29:11.:29:14.

in Houston in Texas in a bid to deter looting in the wake

:29:15.:29:17.

of tropical storm Harvey, At least 20 people have died

:29:18.:29:20.

and 30,000 have been forced from their homes with more than 3000

:29:21.:29:24.

having been rescued Large swathes of Texas remain

:29:25.:29:26.

underwater with almost 52 inches of rain fall since the hurricane

:29:27.:29:30.

made landfall on Friday. President Trump has been to the area

:29:31.:29:32.

to see the devastation for himself and praised the work

:29:33.:29:36.

of the emergency services. These are words used to describe

:29:37.:29:38.

this monster known as Harvey. But the job you've done is very

:29:39.:29:42.

special, and I said let's fly over and see these great people,

:29:43.:29:45.

the nerve centre, really. And we appreciate it very much,

:29:46.:29:47.

and millions of people appreciate But the world is watching,

:29:48.:29:50.

and the world is very impressed Kezia Dugdale has resigned

:29:51.:29:55.

as leader of Scottish Labour, after less than two years

:29:56.:30:00.

in the post. The Lothians MSP insists

:30:01.:30:02.

she is leaving the party in a much She's also rejected the idea her

:30:03.:30:05.

departure has anything to do with her previous criticism

:30:06.:30:09.

of Jeremy Corbyn. The Great British Bake Off was

:30:10.:30:28.

returning last night. Viewers hoped it wouldn't change too much. There

:30:29.:30:34.

were changes to the presenting line-up with Sandi Toksvig and Noel

:30:35.:30:39.

Fielding and Pru Leith join in Paul Hollywood on the team.

:30:40.:30:40.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10:00.

:30:41.:30:44.

Let's catch up with the sport now. Is it the greatest upset in Test

:30:45.:30:51.

cricket? Michael Atherton certainly thinks so with the West Indies

:30:52.:30:55.

beating England by five wickets at Headingley, after losing the first

:30:56.:30:58.

test by an innings and 209 runs. The result means the series is now tied

:30:59.:31:04.

at 1-1 going into the final test. It looks increasingly likely that Alex

:31:05.:31:07.

Oxlade-Chamberlain will be playing for Liverpool next season. He turned

:31:08.:31:11.

down a move to Chelsea despite Arsenal agreeing to sell him for ?14

:31:12.:31:15.

million. Liverpool are expected to make an offer before the transfer

:31:16.:31:19.

window closes on Thursday. And a shock at the US Open with defending

:31:20.:31:25.

champion Angelique Kerber knocked out by American teenager Naomi

:31:26.:31:28.

Osaka. It's only the second time in history of the tournament the

:31:29.:31:32.

defending champion has gone out in the first round. Angelique Kerber's

:31:33.:31:33.

bad form continuing. The Scottish Labour leader

:31:34.:31:36.

Kezia Dugdale has quit In a surprise move, Ms Dugdale said

:31:37.:31:38.

it was time to "pass She's previously criticised

:31:39.:31:43.

Jeremy Corbyn and has faced criticism from left-wing members

:31:44.:31:46.

of her own party. But she's denied she was

:31:47.:31:49.

under pressure to leave. Kezia Dugdale is one of three female

:31:50.:31:52.

Scottish party leaders in Holyrood, along with First Minister and SNP

:31:53.:31:56.

leader Nicola Sturgeon, and Scottish Conservative

:31:57.:31:59.

leader Ruth Davidson. "Kezia Dugdale led her party

:32:00.:32:02.

with guts and determination Ruth Davidson also wished

:32:03.:32:08.

Ms Dugdale well, saying... "Leadership can be tough

:32:09.:32:14.

and Kezia Dugdale deserves the thanks of her party for putting

:32:15.:32:16.

in the hard yards." In an exclusive interview with BBC

:32:17.:32:19.

Scotland's political editor, Brian Taylor, Kezia Dugdale said

:32:20.:32:23.

she had taken over the leadership when the party

:32:24.:32:26.

was "on its knees" in Scotland. Most political leaders quit

:32:27.:32:30.

at a moment of crisis, I've decided that I think

:32:31.:32:33.

the Labour Party's very It's made a tremendous amount

:32:34.:32:37.

of progress from the state that I found it in, two,

:32:38.:32:42.

two and a half years ago I've taken the party forward,

:32:43.:32:45.

it's in a much better Now it's time to pass that baton

:32:46.:32:49.

on to the next person. We've had five national elections

:32:50.:32:53.

in two and a half years so it's time to move on and let the next person

:32:54.:32:57.

have four years to You contemplated this

:32:58.:33:00.

after the UK general election when the party

:33:01.:33:02.

did relatively well in Scotland,

:33:03.:33:07.

gaining seats and gaining votes. Then you thought about it,

:33:08.:33:11.

I gather, over the summer. Were you not tempted

:33:12.:33:19.

to change your mind and continue I care deeply about

:33:20.:33:21.

the Labour Party. I love it and have

:33:22.:33:27.

devoted my adult life to In a number of different capacities.

:33:28.:33:33.

I've come to the conclusion that the best thing for it, the Labour Party,

:33:34.:33:36.

this precious thing that has done so much good in this country and for

:33:37.:33:39.

me, is to pass the baton on. You have been here for two years,

:33:40.:33:42.

another four until the Holyrood elections. Is that another factor in

:33:43.:33:47.

you looking ahead? Two years seems like a very short period of time,

:33:48.:33:50.

but when you look at the immensity of what has happened in Scottish

:33:51.:33:58.

politics, the Scottish referendum, the general election, the referendum

:33:59.:34:02.

on Europe, the immensity of that is huge. It has had its toll on many

:34:03.:34:07.

people, not least myself. I have weathered those battles. The Labour

:34:08.:34:11.

Party is undoubtedly in better shape than the one I inherited. It's time

:34:12.:34:14.

to pass the baton on to the next person.

:34:15.:34:16.

One element you mention in your resignation letter

:34:17.:34:18.

is the death of Gordon Aikman, died after a fight with motor

:34:19.:34:21.

neurone disease, a fight in which he literally campaigned

:34:22.:34:25.

on the topic and you say the lesson from him was how

:34:26.:34:28.

precious and short life was, he taught you, and never

:34:29.:34:30.

It's probably the hardest thing I've had to deal

:34:31.:34:38.

with in the time I've been leader, losing my best friend.

:34:39.:34:40.

I've spent a lot of time talking to him about politics.

:34:41.:34:43.

And I realised that, you know, the decisions that you make in life

:34:44.:34:50.

are very important and time is precious and I want to make sure

:34:51.:34:54.

that I was always giving this job everything I've got.

:34:55.:34:57.

I've given it everything I have and it's time for me to go and serve

:34:58.:35:00.

Did his death make you think what am I doing, there are other things

:35:01.:35:06.

Not that I in any way regret what I've done in this job,

:35:07.:35:12.

I've loved it, but I know I have a lot to offer

:35:13.:35:15.

I won't always do that from within the Scottish parliament.

:35:16.:35:18.

There are other things for me yet, but he taught me how precious life

:35:19.:35:22.

is and to live every moment as well as you possibly can.

:35:23.:35:25.

But this isn't just about me, this is about the Labour Party

:35:26.:35:27.

I believe I've served it well over the last two and a half years,

:35:28.:35:34.

I've taken it forward tremendously so in that time but it's

:35:35.:35:36.

Because you contemplated the future head come you contemplated the

:35:37.:35:43.

period ahead and you just wondered whether you could face the

:35:44.:35:46.

challenge. Tell me about the frustrations of being in leadership,

:35:47.:35:49.

it must be tough. Of course it's tough and it should be tough. You

:35:50.:35:53.

are taking important decisions all the time. But I thoroughly enjoyed

:35:54.:35:57.

it, found it fulfilling and challenging, of course. I have taken

:35:58.:36:01.

on some of the big battles of our time, whether that be around the

:36:02.:36:04.

Constitution, making the case for progressive taxes. I have delivered

:36:05.:36:10.

two sets of new diverse and it is, 50% of men and 50% women,

:36:11.:36:13.

guaranteeing the autonomy of the Scottish Labour Party. Nobody has

:36:14.:36:18.

ever told me what to do in this job. It's not something dictated by

:36:19.:36:21.

London any more. That's beyond doubt. We select our own candidates

:36:22.:36:24.

and write our own manifesto. Looking back over what I have achieved over

:36:25.:36:28.

the last two and a half years, I'm immensely proud, but I also know I'm

:36:29.:36:34.

done. With the leadership? With the leadership, yes, I will absolutely

:36:35.:36:37.

continue to serve the Lothians as an MSP.

:36:38.:36:39.

Some will say you are going before you're pushed.

:36:40.:36:41.

You're going before the Corbynites come for you.

:36:42.:36:43.

What I'm trying to do is something that politicians rarely do,

:36:44.:36:47.

which is to leave with my head held high, without any sort of crisis.

:36:48.:36:50.

I have made it clear to you that I have been in this leadership role

:36:51.:36:54.

at a very difficult time in my party's history.

:36:55.:36:56.

A very challenging time in Scottish politics.

:36:57.:36:58.

A lot has happened in two and a half years.

:36:59.:37:00.

But there are four years ahead before the next election

:37:01.:37:03.

and I want to give the next person the space and time to do

:37:04.:37:06.

But you did speak out against Jeremy Corbyn,

:37:07.:37:09.

admittedly in the earlier period, you later preached unity,

:37:10.:37:12.

but you spoke out against him and were critical of him

:37:13.:37:14.

Perhaps some on the left have never forgiven you for that?

:37:15.:37:18.

I did that 14 months ago, I've not said a critical

:37:19.:37:21.

On a personal level we continue to get on extremely well

:37:22.:37:25.

and I wish him every success for the future and I'll be

:37:26.:37:28.

there right by his side to campaign for him to be next Prime Minister.

:37:29.:37:31.

I've assessed the situation the Scottish Labour Party faces.

:37:32.:37:37.

I've looked at my own life and the decisions I want to make

:37:38.:37:40.

around it and I've decided this is time.

:37:41.:37:42.

You faced some criticism from the left. One group in suggesting you

:37:43.:37:50.

should be replaced. You see it from the left... Segments of the left,

:37:51.:37:54.

it's not the uniform picture, I agree. One thing that's frustrated

:37:55.:37:59.

me is how I am perceived by people on the left and right spectrum. I

:38:00.:38:03.

have argued for 18 months if not longer about progressive taxes,

:38:04.:38:06.

asking the richest in society to pay their fair share and stop austerity.

:38:07.:38:11.

On that he and Jeremy Corbyn have never been anything but 100% United.

:38:12.:38:15.

We have demonstrated time and again how we can use the powers of the

:38:16.:38:18.

Scottish parliament to affect that change, whether it be through taxes

:38:19.:38:22.

or new benefits. We can make these decisions in Scotland and not

:38:23.:38:25.

beholden to the Tories in Westminster. That's an Argentine

:38:26.:38:30.

know the next leader will pursue. -- that's an argument I know.

:38:31.:38:32.

Do you think Jeremy Corbyn can go on to become Prime Minister,

:38:33.:38:35.

do you think he is the right leader for the Labour Party?

:38:36.:38:38.

I absolutely do believe that he can and will go

:38:39.:38:40.

He will have my full support in doing that.

:38:41.:38:44.

And you'll back him in that? Of course.

:38:45.:38:47.

New research suggests a fear of crime is the most common issue

:38:48.:38:50.

The Children's Society's Good Childhood Report,

:38:51.:38:53.

which questioned 10-17 year olds, looked at things that impact

:38:54.:38:55.

More than a third of those surveyed said they were worried

:38:56.:39:00.

A third of girls said they feared being followed by strangers,

:39:01.:39:04.

whereas a quarter of boys were concerned about being

:39:05.:39:06.

It's estimated that around one in ten 10 to 15 years olds

:39:07.:39:10.

were victims of crime in the last year.

:39:11.:39:18.

Lucy Capron, from The Children's Society who produced the report,

:39:19.:39:21.

Sean Sinanan who is 16 years old and has been mugged twice,

:39:22.:39:24.

and 17 year old Magiesha Maheswaran whose friend was assaulted

:39:25.:39:27.

when she was walking home earlier this year.

:39:28.:39:32.

Thank you for coming in. Shaun Cummings have been mugged twice.

:39:33.:39:40.

What happened? -- Sean, you have been mugged twice. For me personally

:39:41.:39:46.

it wasn't as traumatising, it was quite petty. But literally both

:39:47.:39:50.

times playing football in the park, guys approach you, says they have

:39:51.:39:53.

weapons and ask you for what you have. In those situations the

:39:54.:39:59.

reasons why I wasn't too scared was because I didn't have anything on me

:40:00.:40:02.

at the time. However my friends have been in worse situations where they

:40:03.:40:06.

have also been mugged, but these guys had more serious weapons on

:40:07.:40:10.

them. They have lost things like a lot of money, their iPhone and other

:40:11.:40:15.

phones. Intimidating, you were playing football, were you with a

:40:16.:40:18.

crowd of people? Not the sisterly with a crowd of people. The first

:40:19.:40:22.

time it was myself and my friend. -- not necessarily. The second time it

:40:23.:40:27.

was a group of us. When you see these boys come up to you all of a

:40:28.:40:31.

sudden with masks on in the middle of the day, you have a fight or

:40:32.:40:34.

flight situation. In reality you just have to stay there and show

:40:35.:40:40.

confidence in that situation. It is scary in a moment, but I guess you

:40:41.:40:43.

have to look on the bright side of the situation, it gives you more

:40:44.:40:48.

awareness around the area. Has it had an impact on you in terms of

:40:49.:40:51.

fear and changing your habits? In the moment it had an impact on me,

:40:52.:40:56.

but I think as I got older I got mature about it and it didn't really

:40:57.:41:01.

affect me as much. However, there are certain areas where you just

:41:02.:41:05.

wouldn't go any more. For example, the park around the corner, I would

:41:06.:41:09.

rather take the main streets instead of taking a short cut through it to

:41:10.:41:15.

get to my local cinema, example. You had a friend who was assaulted. What

:41:16.:41:21.

impact has that had new? This was very different to something such as

:41:22.:41:24.

catcalling, which happens to a lot of girls at this age. It's the idea

:41:25.:41:28.

that somebody actively following you and trying to hurt you in some way.

:41:29.:41:35.

It instils so much fear in you. What happened to your friend? She was

:41:36.:41:38.

returning from a production and walking home in the dark. There was

:41:39.:41:43.

a person a few paces behind her. She picked up her pace to get home

:41:44.:41:46.

quicker. She realised this person was doing the same thing, following

:41:47.:41:52.

her. She decided she would stop and drop her possessions in case he

:41:53.:41:55.

wanted those. It wasn't the possessions he wanted, it was her.

:41:56.:42:00.

All she did was scream and the person ran away. But she fell and

:42:01.:42:07.

hurt herself. She had to call her relatives to come and help her. For

:42:08.:42:11.

weeks afterwards she was really afraid to go out alone. She always

:42:12.:42:16.

had somebody with her. I was afraid as well because just the fact it

:42:17.:42:20.

happens to somebody so close to me. It could easily happen to anyone in

:42:21.:42:27.

oak and myself even, it instils so much fear in you. -- anyone I know.

:42:28.:42:33.

You are also concerned about acid attacks. We see it in current

:42:34.:42:37.

affairs. Acid attacks are to maim or disfigure a person and it distorts a

:42:38.:42:41.

person completely. Even people you live with or no, they will not see

:42:42.:42:45.

you the same way and he will not have the same opportunities. It

:42:46.:42:49.

harms your life for ever. It's not something you can take away, it will

:42:50.:42:54.

be with you for ever. There has been an increasing rise in acid attacks,

:42:55.:42:59.

especially in London recently. The idea that it could happen to anyone

:43:00.:43:03.

at any time, that really scares a lot of people. Tell us more about

:43:04.:43:08.

the research, you have found that it is a fear of crime that is the most

:43:09.:43:13.

common unifying concern for kids between ten and 17, with 37% of them

:43:14.:43:18.

having that fear. Is it because of having experience something

:43:19.:43:22.

directly, or is it seemed it or having a sense of danger through the

:43:23.:43:26.

media? That's right, it's a combination of both. There is a

:43:27.:43:32.

correlation between people being gay victim of crime and being afraid of

:43:33.:43:37.

crime in the future. Changing your behaviour, so children feeling

:43:38.:43:40.

isolated, not going out or not being able to enjoy their local community,

:43:41.:43:44.

as other children in the area would do, like avoiding your local park,

:43:45.:43:47.

which you would want all children to do. If you are a victim of crime,

:43:48.:43:52.

you are more likely to be afraid of it. You also might have a friend or

:43:53.:43:56.

family member, and you take on that fear and you hold onto it. It makes

:43:57.:44:00.

children unhappy. Is it a different picture to previous surveys you

:44:01.:44:04.

might have looked at before? This is the first time we have asked about

:44:05.:44:08.

fear of crime, but this is part of a decade-long piece of research the

:44:09.:44:11.

Children's Society has done, where we ask children directly about their

:44:12.:44:19.

lives. We ask how they feel about their future and aspirations. Over

:44:20.:44:22.

time we have seen children getting more and more unhappy overall which

:44:23.:44:25.

is why we want people to take children's voices seriously and

:44:26.:44:27.

listen to them about how they feel about their lives. The fact crime is

:44:28.:44:32.

the fear most children have doesn't mean it's necessarily the biggest

:44:33.:44:38.

fear is uppermost in individual children's minds. What was that? For

:44:39.:44:43.

children experiencing what we call emotional neglect, and that means

:44:44.:44:48.

not really looked after all that they have the emotional support from

:44:49.:44:51.

their parents or from friends and family. That was the issue that had

:44:52.:44:54.

the biggest impact for the children that experienced it. But for many of

:44:55.:44:59.

these children, they don't experience one of these things in

:45:00.:45:01.

isolation. They have lots of different problems that come

:45:02.:45:06.

together for children to feel unhappy. So over a million children

:45:07.:45:10.

had more than seven problems in their lives. That fear of crime was

:45:11.:45:14.

the most common, but it also included things like living in

:45:15.:45:17.

poverty, not having your own bedroom and having to share with a sibling,

:45:18.:45:21.

and all these things add together so children are more unhappy.

:45:22.:45:26.

What do you think about whether kids have more to be anxious about these

:45:27.:45:33.

days? I feel like in the streets of London especially, it might be like

:45:34.:45:36.

a different ball game completely to the rest of the UK. Gang-related

:45:37.:45:41.

youth violence is on the rise. I feel like, at the end of the day,

:45:42.:45:47.

children shouldn't be scared. They shouldn't be so normalised that

:45:48.:45:52.

people know of it happening so often. I feel like we need to

:45:53.:45:56.

realise that, at the end of the day you could see it has criminals doing

:45:57.:45:59.

this but actually it's other young people that need more guidance than

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help. You are both members of the youth Parliament, what do you do? As

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members of the youth Parliament we represent the young people in our

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areas. We put together events and arrange opportunities for our young

:46:15.:46:21.

people. We also act as a voice to express the issues they are feeling.

:46:22.:46:28.

We've had a tweet. It says I love the way the guy on Victoria live

:46:29.:46:32.

dealt with those guys trying to rob him. Hasn't let it get to him.

:46:33.:46:38.

What's the best advice he would give to kids who were worried, whether

:46:39.:46:45.

it's crime or other issues? You can't ignore it. Stay visually

:46:46.:46:49.

aware. What at the end of the day, get on with your life. I was at

:46:50.:46:54.

Notting Hill Carnival the other day and there was a lot of talk about

:46:55.:46:59.

acid attacks. While you're having fun there's still that certain

:47:00.:47:02.

paranoia. I would say stay aware but get on with your life, have fun.

:47:03.:47:07.

Just remember, it's always good to talk to someone. Don't bottle it up,

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trust your friends and family and they'll have your back and it'll be

:47:12.:47:15.

fine. I agree. It's really important to be cautious but at the let it get

:47:16.:47:21.

you down so much. Always be cautious, be aware of what's going

:47:22.:47:24.

on and that's the most important advice anyone could have. Thank you.

:47:25.:47:30.

Let us know your thoughts. Coming up, Britain needs to make clear what

:47:31.:47:35.

it wants from Brexit, that's the view of Denmark's ambassador to the

:47:36.:47:37.

UK. We'll speak to him at 10:15am. Bake Off without Mary Berry,

:47:38.:47:42.

or Mel and Sue, seemed unthinkable to many fans,

:47:43.:47:45.

with many fearing the show would flop without them after it's

:47:46.:47:47.

controversial move to Channel 4. The first episode of the new series

:47:48.:47:50.

aired last night with a largely new presenter line-up,

:47:51.:47:53.

after the broadcaster outbid More than 6.5 million people tuned

:47:54.:47:54.

in. Paul Hollywood was joined

:47:55.:48:01.

by fellow judge Prue Leith, presenters Sandi Toksvig

:48:02.:48:04.

and Noel Fielding, and 12 So has the re-jigged format

:48:05.:48:06.

risen to the occasion? Sorry Sue, you did say

:48:07.:48:09.

white tent didn't you? Yeah, but joking can

:48:10.:48:17.

only get you so far. It just says cover the rolls,

:48:18.:48:36.

leaving the bases uncovered. How are you going to

:48:37.:48:44.

pour your chocolate, are you going to pour it on,

:48:45.:48:46.

are you going to dip it? Because we're allowed an exposed

:48:47.:48:49.

bottom I will just pour it all on. If there's an opportunity

:48:50.:48:52.

to the bottom exposed I'm planning on taking my

:48:53.:48:54.

trousers off when Paul You tell them five minutes,

:48:55.:48:57.

because I don't want to make them OK bakers, you've got

:48:58.:49:05.

five minutes left. Use the white chocolate to decorate

:49:06.:49:07.

it in some unspecified way. I'm thinking quite simple,

:49:08.:49:11.

just some sort of lines. Please bring your mini

:49:12.:49:15.

chocolate rolls up and put It's been great, I've loved

:49:16.:49:42.

working with you guys. I'm delighted to say with us in the

:49:43.:50:13.

studio is lots and lots of cake! As well as other people who have strong

:50:14.:50:15.

views on Bake Off. Joining us now is the first ever

:50:16.:50:18.

Great British Bake Off We also have Jackie Heaton,

:50:19.:50:21.

who created the Bake Off Twitter Bake Along,

:50:22.:50:24.

and is also known And Philippa Skett, who threw

:50:25.:50:26.

a Bake Off watching party last night with her friend and fellow Bake Off

:50:27.:50:30.

superfan Toby Shannon. And in true Bake Off Style,

:50:31.:50:32.

they have even brought in some homemade cake to celebrate the start

:50:33.:50:35.

of the new series. We'll look forward to eating beef

:50:36.:50:45.

later, if we allowed! LAUGHTER Wattage will think? I thought it

:50:46.:50:50.

would be good, but I did think it wouldn't be as good as the BBC

:50:51.:50:55.

version. But it was exactly the same. The same things that make the

:50:56.:50:58.

show great were all exactly the same. It's the same people making

:50:59.:51:02.

the show. But not the same people in front of the camera. It was sad to

:51:03.:51:06.

see Sue and Mel and Mary not there. But I think the magic is still

:51:07.:51:10.

completely there, it still felt very much the same show on the BBC. I

:51:11.:51:19.

think it has a really good chance of success. I think it was a wonderful

:51:20.:51:22.

first episode. Did anyone not like it? I was quite impressed to be

:51:23.:51:26.

honest. I had two big worries and that was null and the adverts. But I

:51:27.:51:31.

was quite happy. Why were you worried about Noel? I didn't think

:51:32.:51:39.

he would fit in. You could tell he was slightly nervous but he was

:51:40.:51:43.

coming along. Is there anything you miss? To me it's all about baking

:51:44.:51:49.

anyway, it always has been. One of the interesting things is the fact

:51:50.:51:54.

that they extended the show because of the adverts but they've also

:51:55.:51:58.

removed the historical segments. So actually you get to see more of the

:51:59.:52:02.

contestants and baking. I think really that's what makes the show.

:52:03.:52:07.

The what the macro magic of watching people who bake at home do that in

:52:08.:52:10.

front of millions of people. For me that's where the magic is. What did

:52:11.:52:15.

you think? I thought it was really good. I had quite high expectations.

:52:16.:52:19.

I was a bit reserved when they announced the new presenters and the

:52:20.:52:24.

new judge but I think they worked really well. I think Noel and

:52:25.:52:31.

Sandi's chemistry will develop. They were a bit shy and reserved in the

:52:32.:52:34.

first episode but one of the nice things is we'll get to watch their

:52:35.:52:39.

characters develop. They'll carve out their own niche. I think people

:52:40.:52:42.

are still comparing them to learn and see which is understandable but

:52:43.:52:46.

I think they'll be really good. If you look back to season one, when we

:52:47.:52:52.

did the first audition and someone told us Mel and Sue would present

:52:53.:52:55.

it, nobody thought it would work. The idea of comedians on a cooking

:52:56.:53:02.

show seemed alien. Even Mel and Sue together in the early episodes, the

:53:03.:53:05.

relationship was very different early on. They benefited from it

:53:06.:53:09.

being something that was new, so it was able to build slowly. Much less

:53:10.:53:15.

pressure! I think also the viewing figures are amazing for Channel 4.

:53:16.:53:19.

Their top line is normally 5 million. 6.5 for a show everyone was

:53:20.:53:24.

expecting to bomb is brilliant. Toby, what do you think? I was

:53:25.:53:30.

trying to remain neutral when I heard the news, I thought it would

:53:31.:53:35.

be a disaster. I thought I'll try and watch it with an open mind. When

:53:36.:53:40.

it started, this is all very familiar, and then it was kind of

:53:41.:53:45.

like going into a parallel universe. It's now on Channel 4 and it's got

:53:46.:53:54.

Prue Leith in it, after ten minutes you say OK. Did you miss Mary Berry?

:53:55.:53:59.

I did. I think it's a bit like Doctor Who. Everyone says the old

:54:00.:54:05.

doctor is leaving, no one can replace the doctor. But then you

:54:06.:54:10.

think it works. The king is dead, long live the King! LAUGHTER We

:54:11.:54:20.

still love Mary. I thought Prue Leith was brilliant. I thought she

:54:21.:54:23.

was the best choice for the situation. She's very experienced,

:54:24.:54:27.

very knowledgeable and she came with complete confidence. I think it

:54:28.:54:32.

would have been harder if they put in somebody that nobody knew. A lot

:54:33.:54:36.

of people have heard of Prue Leith and seen her on other things. I

:54:37.:54:40.

think it helps a lot that way. Some comments from people watching. Bake

:54:41.:54:46.

Off will never be the same without Mary Berry. Watched Great British

:54:47.:54:50.

Bake Off, thought I would miss the others but didn't think of them

:54:51.:54:53.

after it started. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Loving the same old format and

:54:54.:54:57.

even the new presenters but hate the adverts cutting short the content

:54:58.:55:02.

and missing much of the judge's feedback. I absolutely loved the

:55:03.:55:08.

first episode, Sandi and Noel were very good as the hosts. I'll so

:55:09.:55:13.

didn't mind the adverts. Love Productions can be very proud of

:55:14.:55:18.

themselves. What about the contestants? It's too early. It's 12

:55:19.:55:23.

people in an hour. Once a couple of them leave, that's when you start to

:55:24.:55:27.

see them blossom. I think there's a really good line-up, some really

:55:28.:55:34.

good decorating talent. I had an automatic thing for Flo. She held

:55:35.:55:43.

her own, didn't she? What was the standout? I loved the melon. I liked

:55:44.:55:57.

the show stopper that was like a platter of sushi. She used a

:55:58.:56:04.

technique to make agar balls. She has a background in biomedical

:56:05.:56:08.

science and brought that into her baking. As a biologist I thought

:56:09.:56:16.

that was really cool. They are using airbrushes. Lots of airbrushes in

:56:17.:56:22.

this episode! I'm a home baker so it's not something that I have in

:56:23.:56:27.

the house. How important is that? We do a break along for the Twitter

:56:28.:56:34.

people. Anyone who wants to join in use the hashtag. But we can't do the

:56:35.:56:41.

show stopper this week basically. We could, we could do the multi-user

:56:42.:56:46.

type thing... For me the one thing about the show that has changed over

:56:47.:56:52.

the years, because the contestants are given a lot longer to prepare,

:56:53.:56:55.

they have to do more decoration because there's no other way to

:56:56.:57:01.

stand out. For me I wish it would retain the home basics. That's what

:57:02.:57:04.

the show did initially, it really got people baking in the kitchen.

:57:05.:57:08.

People aren't going to home and make these extravagant cakes. I thought

:57:09.:57:11.

there was a nice balance with the challenges and the show stopper.

:57:12.:57:16.

This is it with our bakers. You can do the many roles and you know you

:57:17.:57:19.

can give them out to your friends and family. Whereas if you've got a

:57:20.:57:24.

massive cake, it's nobody's birthday. Not that practical. But it

:57:25.:57:29.

the Great British Bake Off that got you into baking? Yes, I used to bake

:57:30.:57:34.

at school and it was quite stressful having a teacher lord over you and

:57:35.:57:39.

making sure it's all within the time of the lesson. When I started at my

:57:40.:57:43.

old job I really got back into baking because there was more fun to

:57:44.:57:48.

it, it was less stressful and more inspiration out there. I think the

:57:49.:57:52.

show is very office friendly. A lot of people are talking about it,

:57:53.:57:57.

everyone can get into it. I think that stimulates people bringing in

:57:58.:58:01.

bakes and bringing people together more. My husband wouldn't dream of

:58:02.:58:05.

baking but he sits and watches it with me and he enjoys it. He would

:58:06.:58:11.

kill me for saying that! This video is, this has come down from

:58:12.:58:15.

Manchester with you this morning. Philippa and Toby, and Edd. Thank

:58:16.:58:23.

you very much! Please keep your comments coming in. Let's catch up

:58:24.:58:27.

with the weather with Carol. The weather today is mixed fortunes.

:58:28.:58:37.

We've got a bit of a north-west and south-east split. If we take a look

:58:38.:58:41.

at that you'll see what I mean. The north and west with sunshine and

:58:42.:58:45.

showers, breezy and a bit warmer than yesterday. Whereas for the

:58:46.:58:50.

South and the East, some of the rain persistent and it's going to feel

:58:51.:58:57.

much cooler than yesterday. Yesterday in Kent we had a high of

:58:58.:59:02.

29, today in the rain will be lucky to hit 15. The reason for the rain

:59:03.:59:09.

is we've got a couple of weather fronts moving towards the south-east

:59:10.:59:13.

corner. Behind it the isobars are quite wide so it's breezy. We have

:59:14.:59:17.

seen Chow was coming in across Northern Ireland and Scotland.

:59:18.:59:20.

Through the data showers developing throughout the day. They will be

:59:21.:59:26.

fewer and further between. Meanwhile our bound -- band of rain will move

:59:27.:59:35.

in. It will brighten up behind it. If you showers across the south-west

:59:36.:59:41.

of England. Many of us will miss those showers. For Wales just if you

:59:42.:59:45.

showers, a lot of dry weather and a fair bit of sunshine. Highs in

:59:46.:59:49.

Aberystwyth getting up to 16. In Northern Ireland more showers but in

:59:50.:59:53.

between there will still be brighter, sunny skies. There will

:59:54.:59:57.

also be between the prolific show was in Scotland. We are still

:59:58.:00:04.

looking at highs of 16. The northern England, fewer showers but some

:00:05.:00:07.

around interspersed with sunshine. Then we run into the rain crossed

:00:08.:00:12.

East Anglia, Essex and Kent with highs between 12-13. Through the

:00:13.:00:17.

evening and overnight the rain clears off into the near continent.

:00:18.:00:19.

There will still be some showers in the West and the South. Inland it

:00:20.:00:25.

will be largely dry, some mist and fog patches forming. Temperatures

:00:26.:00:29.

9-11. In the countryside temperatures lower than that. It is

:00:30.:00:33.

going to be a chilly start of the day tomorrow. It's also going to be

:00:34.:00:37.

dry for many of us, in the West we will still have overnight showers.

:00:38.:00:41.

Through the date further showers developing. Almost anywhere could

:00:42.:00:45.

catch a shower tomorrow and it could be heavy or thundery. Temperatures

:00:46.:00:54.

in the south-east are recovering. 14-18 is the general temperature

:00:55.:00:58.

level across the UK. On Friday a nippy start to the day but a largely

:00:59.:01:02.

dry one. If you showers around but they will be fewer and further

:01:03.:01:06.

between compared to what we're looking at on Thursday. The

:01:07.:01:13.

Saturday, a chilly start to the day, a lot of dry weather, a fair bit of

:01:14.:01:17.

sunshine. Temperatures similar to Friday, 14-21.

:01:18.:01:22.

Hello it's Wednesday, it's 10 o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling.

:01:23.:01:24.

The United Nations strongly condemns North Korea,

:01:25.:01:31.

after Pyongyang launched a ballistic missile over Japan.

:01:32.:01:32.

But China says the US is also partly to blame

:01:33.:01:35.

The world is united against North Korea.

:01:36.:01:38.

It's time for the North Korean regime to recognise the danger

:01:39.:01:42.

The deployment of the THAAD system in Northeast Asia severely

:01:43.:01:51.

jeopardises regional strategic balance, undermining

:01:52.:01:53.

the strategic security interests of all the regional countries.

:01:54.:01:59.

We'll bring more analysis of this story live from Japan,

:02:00.:02:01.

where Theresa May is visiting the PM, and we'll talk

:02:02.:02:03.

President Trump arrives in Texas to survey the damage from the floods.

:02:04.:02:12.

We'll bring you analysis from across the US and Mexico

:02:13.:02:14.

As Britain and the EU engage in the latest round of Brexit talks,

:02:15.:02:22.

the outgoing Danish ambassador to the UK urges Britain to make

:02:23.:02:25.

We'll speak to him live in 15 minutes.

:02:26.:02:35.

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:02:36.:02:43.

There has been unanimous condemnation of North Korea's firing

:02:44.:02:48.

of a missile over Japan at a United Nations Security Council meeting.

:02:49.:02:53.

Pyongyang has described the lodge is the first step of military

:02:54.:02:56.

operations in the Pacific. The Security Council has demanded the

:02:57.:03:00.

country abandons its nuclear weapons programme and has stopped short of

:03:01.:03:03.

The world is united against North Korea.

:03:04.:03:06.

It is time for the North Korean regime to recognise the danger

:03:07.:03:10.

The United States will not allow their lawlessness to continue,

:03:11.:03:15.

and the rest of the world is with us.

:03:16.:03:20.

North Korea is expected to be high on the agenda as Theresa May begins

:03:21.:03:25.

a visit to Japan today - her first as Prime Minister.

:03:26.:03:28.

She'll be hoping to discuss a post-Brexit trade deal.

:03:29.:03:30.

Mrs May has described Japan as a "like minded nation"

:03:31.:03:33.

What we want to do is make sure we deliver on the vote

:03:34.:03:50.

of the British people to leave the European Union,

:03:51.:03:52.

but while we do that we are also looking to the future.

:03:53.:03:55.

This isn't just about Brexit, it's about ensuring we get the deal

:03:56.:03:58.

right, and it's about an optimistic future for the United Kingdom.

:03:59.:04:02.

That's about not just a trade deal with the European Union,

:04:03.:04:06.

but trade deals around the rest of the world, and that's one

:04:07.:04:09.

of the things I will be discussing here in Japan.

:04:10.:04:11.

A night-time curfew has been imposed in Houston in Texas in a bid

:04:12.:04:15.

to deter looting in the wake of tropical storm Harvey,

:04:16.:04:17.

Around 20 people are reported to have died

:04:18.:04:24.

and 30,000 have been forced from their homes with more than 3000

:04:25.:04:27.

having been rescued from the floodwaters.

:04:28.:04:28.

Large swathes of Texas remain underwater with almost 52 inches

:04:29.:04:30.

of rain fall since the hurricane made landfall on Friday.

:04:31.:04:33.

Kezia Dugdale has resigned as leader of Scottish Labour,

:04:34.:04:35.

after less than two years in the post.

:04:36.:04:37.

The Lothians MSP insists she is leaving the party in a much

:04:38.:04:40.

She's also rejected the idea her departure has anything to do

:04:41.:04:44.

with her previous criticism of Jeremy Corbyn.

:04:45.:04:46.

More than 6.5 million viewers tuned in to The Great British

:04:47.:04:49.

Bake Off last night - the show's first episode

:04:50.:04:51.

This series sees some alterations to the line-up,

:04:52.:04:54.

as presenting duo Noel Fielding and Sandi Toksvig -

:04:55.:04:57.

and new judge Prue Leith - joined Paul Hollywood on the team.

:04:58.:05:00.

That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10:30.

:05:01.:05:12.

Let us know your thoughts on Great British Bake Off and everything else

:05:13.:05:17.

you're talking about this morning. Use the hashtag Victoria LIVE

:05:18.:05:19.

and If you text, you will be charged Just two days left in the current

:05:20.:05:23.

transfer window and it looks like Arsenal are in for a busy 24

:05:24.:05:32.

hours or so. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain has turned

:05:33.:05:35.

down a move to Chelsea from Arsenal despite the two clubs

:05:36.:05:37.

agreeing a ?40 million fee. We understand the England

:05:38.:05:39.

international wants a move to Liverpool, with a bid expected

:05:40.:05:41.

to come before tomorrow's Meanwhile Arsenal have

:05:42.:05:44.

rejected a ?50 million bid from Manchester City for Alexis

:05:45.:05:47.

Sanchez. The Chile international will also be

:05:48.:05:48.

available to leave on a free Arsene Wenger would like

:05:49.:05:51.

City's Raheem Sterling Leicester midfielder

:05:52.:05:54.

Danny Drinkwater has asked to leave the club

:05:55.:05:59.

following interest from Chelsea. The Premier League champions have

:06:00.:06:03.

already had two bids turned down Leicester have previously

:06:04.:06:06.

stated they do not wish And that's not the only business

:06:07.:06:09.

Chelsea are interested in. They've also had a ?25

:06:10.:06:14.

million bid rejected Chelsea's offer is below Everton's

:06:15.:06:16.

original ?50 million price tag. Barkley's another player who has

:06:17.:06:23.

just one year left on his contract The England head coach

:06:24.:06:26.

Trevor Bayliss says he hopes Joe Root won't change his approach

:06:27.:06:34.

to aggressive declarations despite The tourists clinched victory

:06:35.:06:36.

on the final day of the 2nd Test at Headingley yesterday to level

:06:37.:06:41.

the 3-match series. Former England captain

:06:42.:06:42.

Michael Atherton called it The West Indies were chasing over

:06:43.:06:44.

300 runs to win on the final day but two crucial dropped catches

:06:45.:06:51.

from Alastair Cook and a century for Shai Hope set the platform

:06:52.:06:54.

for the surprise victory following their heavy defeat

:06:55.:06:57.

at the Oval last week. Hope became the first man to score

:06:58.:06:59.

centuries in both innings of a first-class

:07:00.:07:02.

match at Headingley. At no point whirly complacent. We

:07:03.:07:10.

looked at the conditions, it was spinning, the fifth day, and we took

:07:11.:07:14.

the positive option. We wanted to try to win a game. We are a positive

:07:15.:07:18.

side wants to try to win Test matches. Unfortunately we were not

:07:19.:07:22.

able to do that today. If we were right on it and taken all of our

:07:23.:07:26.

chances then it might have been slightly different. But credit to

:07:27.:07:29.

the West Indies, they played fantastically well today.

:07:30.:07:31.

Roger Federer has survived a scare to reach the second

:07:32.:07:33.

Federer - looking to win a record 20th grand slam title -

:07:34.:07:41.

beat American teenager Francis Tiafoe in five sets.

:07:42.:07:46.

He had been worried prior about a niggling back injury that caused him

:07:47.:07:51.

to miss the Cincinnati Masters. In the end it was the drama, the back

:07:52.:07:56.

and forth. It was very exciting. I really enjoyed myself even though

:07:57.:08:00.

maybe I was tired and nervous at the end. But it was very cool to be part

:08:01.:08:02.

of that match. There's been another major shock

:08:03.:08:05.

in the women's draw. World number 45 Naomi Osaka

:08:06.:08:08.

from Japan beat defending champion Angelique Kerber in straight sets -

:08:09.:08:12.

the first time in 13 years the champion has gone out

:08:13.:08:15.

in the opening round. And it's only the second time in US

:08:16.:08:22.

Open history. Angelique Kerber's bad form continues.

:08:23.:08:26.

Tropical storm Harvey appears to be moving northwards after battering

:08:27.:08:29.

the American city of Houston with record-breaking

:08:30.:08:30.

A night time curfew is in place to deter looters as rescue

:08:31.:08:38.

Yesterday President Trump arrived at the town of Corpus Christi

:08:39.:08:43.

to visit those affected by the flooding.

:08:44.:08:44.

Let's listen to what he had to say, first to some rescue workers,

:08:45.:08:47.

These are words used to describe this monster known as Harvey.

:08:48.:08:56.

But the job you've done is very special, and I said let's fly over

:08:57.:09:00.

and see these great people, the nerve centre, really.

:09:01.:09:04.

And we appreciate it very much, and millions of people appreciate

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But the world is watching, and the world is very impressed

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I just want to say, we love you, you are special.

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It's going well, and I want to thank you for coming out.

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We're going to get you back and operating immediately.

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I will tell you, this is historic, it's epic, what happened.

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But, you know what, it happened in Texas and Texas

:09:35.:09:36.

Famously, George W Bush was criticised for his handling

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of the 2005 hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, when

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So how has Donald Trump's response played with the American people?

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Let's speak now to Peter Goodman from the New York Times.

:09:56.:10:01.

Blanquita Cullum, who is a Republican

:10:02.:10:02.

broadcaster based in Texas - she also used to work for the

:10:03.:10:05.

Federal Emergency Management Agency, which co-ordinates the response

:10:06.:10:07.

Andalusia Knoll Soloff is a journalist based in Mexico-

:10:08.:10:13.

the country is pledging its support to the US, in response

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to President Trump re-iterating his demand for them to pay for a wall

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And Paul Simpson, the County Chair of the Harris County

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Thank you all very much for joining us. Paul Simpson first of all, how

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would you describe the handling of what has happened? I think it has

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been very effective. The one thing you have to keep in mind is that

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government is divided in many ways and at many levels in the United

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States. This type of disaster is best handled at the local level. I

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think local officials here have done a very superb job in organising and

:10:53.:10:59.

dealing with the disaster. We look later to outside help from the State

:11:00.:11:03.

governments and then the federal governments to supplement those

:11:04.:11:06.

efforts, particularly in recovery. But Harris County, where Houston is,

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the greater Houston area population is more than 6 million people. They

:11:14.:11:19.

have 22 different watersheds, so it's a very complexes situation and

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it's important we have people on the ground who know how to deal with it

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and I think local and county officials have done a great job of

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that. Peter Goodman, what about the role of the president? Any time the

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president of the United States or any political leader shows up at a

:11:36.:11:39.

disaster zone, there is an element of showmanship. They are not there

:11:40.:11:42.

to lift sandbags and physically rescue people. They are therefore

:11:43.:11:46.

symbolic support. With this president in particular its always a

:11:47.:11:50.

show and it's always about him. Notice that he didn't mix with any

:11:51.:11:54.

actual people, he didn't visit rescue centres or shelters. He sat

:11:55.:11:59.

in a room full of people in uniforms with maps and projected a sense of

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help being on the way. He can never really contain this ability to make

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it all about himself. He emerged from the fire house in Corpus

:12:10.:12:12.

Christi saying, what an enormous crowd, as if it was a political

:12:13.:12:16.

rally will stop he put the focus on his own role in this. We hope to

:12:17.:12:22.

look back ten years from now and see that we have led the way, and this

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is how you handle such a disaster. There has been a reaction on social

:12:27.:12:29.

media and also on the ground that yet again we have this reality

:12:30.:12:33.

television star president who has made it all about himself as opposed

:12:34.:12:38.

to project genuine empathy. Paul Connolly you were shaking your head

:12:39.:12:41.

while Peter was talking. Why was that? He clearly has an agenda and

:12:42.:12:48.

an axe to grind. What the president is doing is appropriate. He's at the

:12:49.:12:53.

managerial level. President Obama did not even show up for the people

:12:54.:12:58.

of Louisiana during major flooding of previous years. President Trump

:12:59.:13:03.

is doing the right thing and the right role to oversee the folks on

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the ground and not try to micromanage. It's his job to make

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sure resources are available. That's the President's job. I think what is

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bothersome to the millions of people who are dealing with the storm, and

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people who have been in serious harm's way, is the politicising of

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the whole event, which is not politicised here on the ground for

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the people that matter. The outside world and people in New York might

:13:27.:13:29.

want to somehow blame this on Donald Trump. The federal government is

:13:30.:13:33.

doing the appropriate thing and working hand in hand with the local

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and state officials. How do you see the way the president is handling

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it? He will be mindful of the fact George W Bush came in for so much

:13:44.:13:48.

criticism and many people say he never recovered from that after

:13:49.:13:49.

hurricane Katrina. Yellow this totally different ball game. I have

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a lot of family in Houston. Thousands of people have been

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rescued. People are coming from all over. You have the Cajun navy coming

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from Louisiana, truckers coming from all over. People bringing private

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boats. Nobody is asking what party they are from, what colour they are,

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what religion they are, in Texas its neighbours and friends helping

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neighbours. The president coming over here was a very positive thing.

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I have to agree with the gentleman from Harris County. The other thing

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is, Corpus Christi was hit with the blunt force of a hurricane. If you

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turn around and you go under the direction to Rockport, people forget

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that Rockport looked like a bomb hit it. That community is completely

:14:49.:14:56.

destroyed. And in Houston, it will take years for it to recover. It's

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going to affect an awful lot of people, and remember, after Katrina

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many people came to Houston to be able to escape the ravages and

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destruction that happened. So we are very sensitive to this. And when you

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hear all this baloney from people who want to try to politicise it,

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shame on them. It's more shallow than I can even express. Frankly, I

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hope the waters will be as shallow as some of the critics pretty soon.

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44% of the population of Houston is Latino. Another 25% is

:15:36.:15:42.

African-American. President Trump accused Mexicans of being rapists,

:15:43.:15:47.

criticised a federal judge, said he couldn't be impartial because he is

:15:48.:15:53.

of Mexican heritage. This is someone who is a few days removed from

:15:54.:15:58.

showing support for neo-Nazis and white supremacists. Is that relevant

:15:59.:16:03.

when it comes to his response? It's relevant enough that the mayor of

:16:04.:16:07.

Houston felt compelled to save undocumented immigrants in the

:16:08.:16:11.

Houston area, please don't be afraid that you will be prosecuted and

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deported if you seek help. He had to say publicly please seek help and I

:16:17.:16:21.

will personally defend you if you're prosecuted as a result of outing

:16:22.:16:25.

yourself as an undocumented immigrant. Tens billions of dollars

:16:26.:16:29.

will be needed to reconstruct this area. After Katrina and the damage

:16:30.:16:36.

that was $150 billion, we had a lot of Republicans who demanded any

:16:37.:16:40.

spending for the relief efforts be offset by cuts to the other

:16:41.:16:45.

programmes. Eventually when the rebuilding starts will be in a

:16:46.:16:49.

situation where the interests of poor people who need health care,

:16:50.:16:55.

elderly people, will be played off against the people in need of rescue

:16:56.:16:58.

and will see an unequal disbursement. I will go back to you

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but I just want to bring in Andalusia. You're in Mexico, how is

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this being seen? I will say that in the general public's view, people

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are talking about it a lot. In the government they are talking about it

:17:16.:17:19.

as Donald Trump resorted to Twitter to first talk about Harvey, then

:17:20.:17:25.

take a few blows that Mexico. Saying Mexico has too much crime and they

:17:26.:17:28.

need to build a wall and Nafta is the worst trade deal ever, and they

:17:29.:17:32.

must renegotiate. Then going back to tweeting about Harvey. The secretary

:17:33.:17:42.

of foreign affairs responded saying Mexico maintains their stance that

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they will not build the wall and also they will not engage in these

:17:47.:17:49.

kinds of conversations over social media. And the Mexican government

:17:50.:17:54.

has taken this opportunity to express its solidarity with the

:17:55.:17:57.

people and government of the United States as a result of the damage

:17:58.:18:02.

caused by Hurricane Harvey, and said they would censor board. Mexico sent

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support during Katrina hand has offered to send support now. They

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have said they are sending 35 people from the Red Cross who are experts

:18:15.:18:18.

in disaster control, and will continue to speak with the governor

:18:19.:18:23.

of Texas instead of negotiating with Donald Trump. We are almost out of

:18:24.:18:33.

time. The other baloney is Mexico right now can't even protect its own

:18:34.:18:37.

journalists. We have ten Mexican journalists that have been killed,

:18:38.:18:42.

Mexico needs to clean up its own act and I say that as a Mexican

:18:43.:18:47.

Americans. This is obviously not related to the hurricane itself.

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This racial and ethnic baloney that we are going through with this

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hurricane, it's crazy. Thank you for joining us.

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Still to come, as the UN condemns North Korea for launching a missile

:19:07.:19:11.

over Japan, we speak to a North Korean to find out what people there

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think. Theresa May says no deal on Brexit

:19:14.:19:15.

is still better than a bad deal. The Prime mInister is currently

:19:16.:19:18.

on a trip to Japan with a 15 member business delegation,

:19:19.:19:21.

for talks aimed at easing Discussions will focus on developing

:19:22.:19:23.

a free trade agreement after Britain She's been speaking to our political

:19:24.:19:27.

correspondent Ben Wright in Kyoto. The Japanese government, the EU and

:19:28.:19:42.

businesses are asking for more clarity about your Brexit aims. They

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want details. What more you going to be able to say this week? I'm going

:19:47.:19:54.

to be talking to my Japanese counterpart Prime Minister Abe this

:19:55.:19:57.

week about the future relationship between the UK and Japan, how we can

:19:58.:20:02.

build on what is already a good, strong relationship, but build on

:20:03.:20:05.

that in the areas of security, defence and trade. And look to the

:20:06.:20:09.

arrangements we can put in place when we've left the EU. As regards

:20:10.:20:13.

the details of our aims for the EU and our relationship with them in

:20:14.:20:16.

the future, we've been publishing a series of papers over the summer,

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there will be more papers to come, where we are setting out the key

:20:21.:20:23.

issues that both sides need to address. The ideas we have of how to

:20:24.:20:30.

deal with those. It's the United Kingdom that's been coming forward

:20:31.:20:33.

with the ideas and with the clarity about the future. It's clear Japan

:20:34.:20:38.

doesn't want Britain to crash out of the EU in March 20 19. Over the

:20:39.:20:42.

summer your Chancellor and trade Secretary both said Britain needs a

:20:43.:20:46.

transitional arrangement. Do you still think no deal is better than a

:20:47.:20:51.

bad deal, we could still walk away? Yes, I think that is right. But if

:20:52.:20:55.

you talk about the point at which we leave the EU, we want to ensure that

:20:56.:21:00.

at that point we do have a deal that is the right deal for the UK. I said

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back in January in my speech in Lancaster house, that one of the

:21:07.:21:11.

things we wanted to ensure what a smooth changeover from the

:21:12.:21:14.

membership of the European Union to the future arrangements, and that we

:21:15.:21:18.

would need to have a period of time to implement any practical changes

:21:19.:21:22.

that needed to take place. How long might that arrangement last, and

:21:23.:21:26.

could it mean staying inside the single market, the EEA and the

:21:27.:21:30.

customs union as Labour nothing Britain should do? What we see from

:21:31.:21:34.

the Labour Party is yet another position from them in relation to

:21:35.:21:38.

the European Union. As we've also seen, not a position that is

:21:39.:21:41.

welcomed by all members of the Labour Party. If we look at what we

:21:42.:21:46.

are talking about, we are talking about negotiating a deal with the

:21:47.:21:49.

European Union, within their two-year timescale, a deal that is

:21:50.:21:54.

right for the UK but also ride for the European Union, that develops a

:21:55.:21:57.

deep and special partnership between the UK and the remaining 27 members

:21:58.:22:04.

of the European Union. And that in order to ensure that businesses and

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individuals don't face that cliff edge, that we see a smooth path from

:22:08.:22:12.

the existing relationship to the future relationship, we will be as

:22:13.:22:19.

part of the negotiations looking at how we practically implement any

:22:20.:22:23.

changes. Do you roll out remaining in the single market and the customs

:22:24.:22:28.

union for that transitional period? What I set out in my Lancaster house

:22:29.:22:32.

speech is that you can't be a member of the single market without being a

:22:33.:22:36.

member of the European Union, and we're leaving the European Union.

:22:37.:22:41.

You could join the EEA, that's Labour's suggestions. We want to

:22:42.:22:44.

make sure we deliver on the fate of the British people to leave the EU,

:22:45.:22:48.

and that while we do that we are also looking to the future. This

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isn't just about Brexit, it's about ensuring we get that deal right.

:22:53.:22:56.

It's about how not to Mystic future for the UK. That's about not just

:22:57.:23:00.

the trade deal with the European Union, but trade deals around the

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rest of the world. That's one of the things I'm going to be discussing

:23:04.:23:10.

here in Japan. Japan is a long-standing partner of the UK,

:23:11.:23:13.

significant investments from the UK into Japan and Japan into the UK. We

:23:14.:23:18.

seen Nissan, Toyota, investing in the UK since the vote took place. As

:23:19.:23:26.

part of the visit here today, ?500 billion Aston Martin deal. These are

:23:27.:23:29.

important developments for our economy and for the relationship

:23:30.:23:33.

with Japan. North Korea is clearly a pressing crisis in Japan. During

:23:34.:23:37.

your discussions this week, what more will you be able to say about

:23:38.:23:41.

Britain's possible role in resolving this crisis? I want to work with

:23:42.:23:46.

Prime Minister Abe and other international partners to do what we

:23:47.:23:49.

all want to do, which is to stop North Korea from conducting these

:23:50.:23:53.

illegal activities. These are illegal tests and it is outrageous,

:23:54.:23:58.

it is provocation, and they should be stopping them. There's been a

:23:59.:24:02.

discussion in the United Nations Security Council and I'm pleased

:24:03.:24:07.

there was a united condemnation of North Korea from the United Nations

:24:08.:24:10.

Security Council. We want to work with international partners to see

:24:11.:24:13.

what further pressure can be brought on North Korea, and particularly

:24:14.:24:17.

look at what China can do to bring pressure on North Korea.

:24:18.:24:21.

Staying with Brexit - and as the latest round of

:24:22.:24:27.

negotiations continues in Brussels - today there's a stark warning

:24:28.:24:30.

from one of Europe's top diplomats that Britain needs to make clear

:24:31.:24:33.

what the UK will look like after Brexit urgently or it

:24:34.:24:35.

will "fall off a cliff-edge" and run out of time to negotiate

:24:36.:24:38.

The Danish Ambassador to Britain is about to return home after four

:24:39.:24:42.

years in the role and he's joining us exclusively this morning.

:24:43.:24:45.

His Excellency Claus Grube is here to talk with us now.

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Welcome, thank you for joining us. An amazing four years, lots

:24:51.:25:02.

happening politically, how have you felt? You have entertained me

:25:03.:25:06.

tremendously. I came in the summer of 2013 where the debate was getting

:25:07.:25:14.

lively on the Scottish referendum on independence. Then we had the

:25:15.:25:17.

elections in 2015, then the referendum on Brexit, and now we

:25:18.:25:24.

have the elections in June. The debate on Brexit is continuing, so

:25:25.:25:28.

there has been very interesting and quite challenging also from time to

:25:29.:25:32.

time. What was your personal reaction to Brexit? Like many other

:25:33.:25:37.

Danish people, we have been partners with the UK. We will also together

:25:38.:25:50.

before 1973. We respected the outcome. We have a great tradition

:25:51.:25:54.

of referenda in Denmark. We know this is a legitimate process which

:25:55.:25:57.

we have to respect the outcome of. Is it in Britain's best interests? I

:25:58.:26:03.

mean, it remains to be seen. Now we have to negotiate an orderly exit

:26:04.:26:12.

and then we'll see what happens. We've just heard from Theresa May

:26:13.:26:15.

saying she still believes no deal is better than a bad deal. I think it's

:26:16.:26:19.

better that we go to the negotiation table and we talk about things. I

:26:20.:26:27.

don't think it contributes to making a better atmosphere. I think we have

:26:28.:26:37.

to go down to the details. It's very positive that the British government

:26:38.:26:40.

have presented a number of papers that will give us the opportunity to

:26:41.:26:44.

go into the details of the realities of the negotiations. Is it

:26:45.:26:48.

embarrassing when the president of the EU Commission says he's taken

:26:49.:26:51.

the time to look at those positioning papers and he's said

:26:52.:26:57.

that none of them is satisfactory? He has to reply to that question.

:26:58.:27:01.

It's not for me to comment on his views on that. We will study the

:27:02.:27:14.

papers in detail... It's the perception of Britain not being

:27:15.:27:19.

properly prepared, is that a sense you have? I think you've had a long

:27:20.:27:23.

debate. It's now more than a year ago that the referendum took place.

:27:24.:27:32.

It's been a long and British debate. Without a lot of wishful thinking

:27:33.:27:35.

about the future and how to get out of the EU. But you also have to bear

:27:36.:27:43.

in mind that this is a process which is taking place within an

:27:44.:27:47.

international treaty framework. We have clear rules in Article 50, and

:27:48.:27:51.

we have adopted a mandate of the European Council to guide these

:27:52.:27:55.

negotiations and ask the commission to do it on our behalf. You also

:27:56.:27:59.

have to bear in mind that in other countries like my own country, there

:28:00.:28:04.

is also political constituencies and economic interests to take care of.

:28:05.:28:09.

Every country has their own issues to take care of. Which also has to

:28:10.:28:18.

be approved by our Parliament. When you say there has been a lot of

:28:19.:28:21.

wishful thinking through the debate, do you think the British people have

:28:22.:28:25.

been misled on what Brexit actually means? I do think so. I think it's

:28:26.:28:30.

part of this clarification process on what actually Brexit means. What

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does it mean for you? What do you think would be in Britain's best

:28:37.:28:42.

interest? If we could choose we would like to see the UK as close as

:28:43.:28:46.

possible to the internal market, the customs union, maybe a country like

:28:47.:28:52.

Norway or Switzerland. But I understand from the political debate

:28:53.:28:58.

and the choices made by the British government, that that is not in the

:28:59.:29:00.

objectives that they are aiming at. I think it has been made clear by

:29:01.:29:06.

Prime Minister Theresa May that you want to leave the internal market

:29:07.:29:10.

and the customs union. Of course that will also have some

:29:11.:29:14.

consequences. Should there be a second referendum? That's not for me

:29:15.:29:18.

to decide. But will be for the British government and the British

:29:19.:29:21.

Parliament to decide if they want to consult the people again. As you

:29:22.:29:26.

know, from the Scottish referendum and the Brexit referendum, these are

:29:27.:29:30.

very complicated political processes. I think before you

:29:31.:29:34.

contemplate ideas like that, you have to consider very carefully what

:29:35.:29:41.

kind of questions you want to ask. The Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson

:29:42.:29:44.

has been described, it seems, by some diplomats as a joke. One

:29:45.:29:52.

newspaper has quoted an unnamed minister in Europe that "There's not

:29:53.:29:55.

a single Foreign Minister who taken seriously, they think he's a clown

:29:56.:30:01.

who can never resist a gag". It's not for me, I mean for us as

:30:02.:30:06.

professional diplomats, any Foreign Minister democratically elected and

:30:07.:30:11.

appointed, is a serious Foreign Minister for any country and we will

:30:12.:30:15.

always deal seriously with them. Obviously you've been here because

:30:16.:30:20.

of the relationship between Denmark and Britain. Going forward, how do

:30:21.:30:30.

you see economic relations? France has made clear it wants to attract

:30:31.:30:34.

as much business from Britain as possible to effectively capitalise

:30:35.:30:38.

on Brexit. Would Denmark look to attract British business?

:30:39.:30:43.

We do our day to day business at the embassy. Even before I came here,

:30:44.:30:50.

one part of the Ambassador's job was to attract British investment into

:30:51.:30:52.

Denmark. That's part of normal business. How do we approach it? I

:30:53.:30:58.

can put it in simple terms are saying that we are hoping for as

:30:59.:31:03.

frictionless trade as possible. There will be consequences for our

:31:04.:31:07.

economic relations. We will make sure that we protect Danish

:31:08.:31:13.

interests in these negotiations. Any kind of position that will entail

:31:14.:31:19.

that jobs, investments or companies will be moved from Denmark to the

:31:20.:31:23.

United Kingdom, I think it would be difficult for the danish government

:31:24.:31:27.

to approve that, but that's only natural. That said, after we have

:31:28.:31:33.

taken care of our interest and the interest of the 27 member states,

:31:34.:31:36.

for us our main trading partner is the European Union. The integrity of

:31:37.:31:46.

the single market is of the utmost importance to us, and we will bear

:31:47.:31:52.

that in mind, that all the benefits and advantages we have gained over

:31:53.:31:55.

the last 40 years in creating the internal market, which was also a

:31:56.:32:01.

British idea, and promoted very strongly by Margaret Thatcher, that

:32:02.:32:04.

this will be safeguarded for the future. We would like to see the UK

:32:05.:32:08.

as close as possible. Does there need to be clarity by the end of the

:32:09.:32:14.

year? The clock is ticking. That's the real challenge, I think. One

:32:15.:32:19.

thing is the divorce, which is actually what we are negotiating

:32:20.:32:23.

now, according to Article 50 and the treaty. That's where we have the

:32:24.:32:31.

two-year deadline. But if you want to avoid the so-called cliff edge,

:32:32.:32:36.

we will have to come by the end of the two-year deadline, have to look

:32:37.:32:41.

again to the future. Is there a danger companies will start to

:32:42.:32:44.

actually decide their contingency planning has to go ahead by the end

:32:45.:32:47.

of this year potentially if they don't know what the shape of Brexit

:32:48.:32:54.

will be? It could be. What really affects Danish companies in the

:32:55.:32:58.

United Kingdom is all the uncertainty which came after the

:32:59.:33:05.

Brexit referendum. As long as this uncertainty is continuing, the more

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difficult it is for them to make long-term investments and plans.

:33:12.:33:14.

That's the uncertainty that is primarily hampering. But we have

:33:15.:33:21.

been here for 1000 years in different kinds of ways. We will

:33:22.:33:31.

always trade in the future. Betis. No under which conditions. How

:33:32.:33:35.

helpful are you that the shape of it will lead to a better outcome in the

:33:36.:33:39.

end for Britain out the EU? It's for the British to come up with the

:33:40.:33:46.

negotiations of what you would call a better outcome. We all hope we

:33:47.:33:50.

will find a way forward that will have to be a compromise. You need to

:33:51.:33:58.

the tango desperately need two to tango.

:33:59.:34:05.

When we negotiate between partners in the European Union and

:34:06.:34:08.

internationally, we have to compromise and we have to make sure

:34:09.:34:12.

we can find a way forward that will, if I may say so, have 28 winners.

:34:13.:34:17.

Not a situation where there is only one winner and 27 losers, that will

:34:18.:34:24.

not fly. You have spoken a few times about a typically British attitudes,

:34:25.:34:28.

effectively leaving after four years in the country, what do you take

:34:29.:34:31.

away and how do you see the country? I think you have a fantastic

:34:32.:34:37.

country, a great country. We have enjoyed it tremendously and I thank

:34:38.:34:41.

you very much for giving me this opportunity to give a decent

:34:42.:34:43.

farewell to all the friends that we have here in the UK. I see a country

:34:44.:34:49.

with a lot of resources and a lot of strength. And now a very politically

:34:50.:34:55.

engaged population, especially among young people. I think that bodes

:34:56.:35:00.

well for the future. If you could give some advice to Theresa May

:35:01.:35:03.

right now, for what she should do, what would it be? I think we are

:35:04.:35:13.

very happy for clarification of the British position. I would also hope

:35:14.:35:18.

that the British Prime Minister will be made a little bit clearer on what

:35:19.:35:23.

we call the financial settlement, which we have to deal with, apart

:35:24.:35:30.

from the issues of citizens and the border issues and customs issues and

:35:31.:35:33.

Northern Ireland, we also have to have some clarity as to the

:35:34.:35:39.

financial settlement. But I am sure we'll get there one day. Thank you

:35:40.:35:42.

very much indeed for coming in and speaking us.

:35:43.:35:49.

Still to come, condemnation over North Korean action. But how are the

:35:50.:35:59.

actions being seen in Asia? We will speak to Japan and a North Korean

:36:00.:36:01.

defector. After Kezia Dugdale steps down as

:36:02.:36:07.

the Labour leader in Scotland, we will speak to somebody who sits on

:36:08.:36:09.

the Labour lobby. There has been unanimous

:36:10.:36:11.

condemnation of North Korea's firing of a missile over Japan

:36:12.:36:13.

at a United Nations Pyongyang has described the launch

:36:14.:36:16.

as the first step of military The Security Council has demanded

:36:17.:36:25.

the country abandons its nuclear weapons programme but has stopped

:36:26.:36:30.

short of threatening North Korea is expected to be high

:36:31.:36:32.

on the agenda as Theresa May begins a visit to Japan today -

:36:33.:36:37.

her first as Prime Minister. She'll be hoping to discuss

:36:38.:36:40.

a post-Brexit trade deal. Mrs May has described Japan

:36:41.:36:42.

as a "like minded nation" A night-time curfew has been imposed

:36:43.:36:45.

in Houston in Texas in a bid to deter looting in the wake

:36:46.:36:49.

of tropical storm Harvey, Around 20 people are reported

:36:50.:36:51.

to have died and 30,000 have been Large swathes of Texas remain

:36:52.:36:59.

underwater with almost 52 inches of rain fall since the hurricane

:37:00.:37:03.

made landfall on Friday. Let's catch up with the support

:37:04.:37:10.

right now. The smack with the It looks increasingly likely that

:37:11.:37:19.

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain will be playing for Liverpool next season -

:37:20.:37:21.

he turned down a move to Chelsea, despite Arsenal agreeing to sell him

:37:22.:37:24.

for 40 million pounds. Liverpool are expected to make

:37:25.:37:26.

an offer before the transfer And a shock at the US Open -

:37:27.:37:29.

defending champion Angelique Kerber has been knocked out by American

:37:30.:37:33.

teenager Naomi Osaka. It's only the second time

:37:34.:37:35.

in the history of the tournament that the defending champion has gone

:37:36.:37:38.

out in the first round. Is it the greatest

:37:39.:37:42.

upset in test cricket? Michael Atherton thinks so -

:37:43.:37:44.

West Indies beat England by 5 That's after they lost the first

:37:45.:37:47.

test by an innings and 209 runs - the result means the series is tied

:37:48.:37:54.

at 1-1 going into the last test. A judge has ruled that a Christian

:37:55.:38:04.

girl at the centre of a fostering row should live with a family member

:38:05.:38:09.

in a case in which it was claimed she was placed

:38:10.:38:13.

with a Muslim foster family. Adina Campbell is at

:38:14.:38:16.

the East London family court now. this has obviously become a very

:38:17.:38:23.

high profile case. What's the latest? As you say, a judge here in

:38:24.:38:31.

East London has now decided that the girl will be looked after by a

:38:32.:38:37.

family member. This comes after recent newspaper reports that the

:38:38.:38:42.

girl was being cared for by Ruslan foster carers and it is claimed that

:38:43.:38:48.

went against her Christian heritage. -- by Muslim Foster carers. It's

:38:49.:38:50.

also claimed the girl was encouraged to speak Arabic. Tower Hamlets

:38:51.:38:57.

council has rejected the claims, saying that the girls looked after

:38:58.:39:01.

by an English speaking family of a mixed-race origin. The reports in

:39:02.:39:05.

the papers has led to widespread controversy. We've had reaction from

:39:06.:39:10.

the children's Commissioner England and Longford who said after reading

:39:11.:39:14.

reports in the newspaper that she had ongoing concerns and she would

:39:15.:39:18.

be contacting the director of children's services at Tower Hamlets

:39:19.:39:23.

council. Further in the Tower Hamlets statement it says that there

:39:24.:39:26.

had been inaccuracies in a newspaper reporting of the case and the

:39:27.:39:30.

decision to choose Foster carers for a child is based on a number of

:39:31.:39:33.

factors, including cultural background. The judge here has

:39:34.:39:38.

decided the girl will be looked after by a family member. When it

:39:39.:39:42.

comes to fostering in England, the advice is that foster carers don't

:39:43.:39:45.

necessarily need to be the same ethnic background as the child, but

:39:46.:39:49.

they point out carers must be equipped to deal with a child's

:39:50.:39:51.

background and religious needs. An emergency meeting of the UN

:39:52.:40:01.

Security Council has condemned as outrageous North Korea's firing of a

:40:02.:40:06.

ballistic missile over Japan on Tuesday but has not threatens new

:40:07.:40:13.

sanctions. It has urged Pyongyang to exercise restraint and abandon its

:40:14.:40:16.

nuclear programme together. North Korea's official news agency has

:40:17.:40:21.

launched pictures of the Lodge say it's a direct response to American

:40:22.:40:24.

and South Korean military drills. Whilst condemning Pyongyang's

:40:25.:40:29.

actions, both Russia and China agreed US military action in the

:40:30.:40:32.

region is partly to blame for an increase in tensions.

:40:33.:40:34.

TRANSLATION: China is always committed to the goal

:40:35.:40:36.

of denuclearisation of the peninsular,

:40:37.:40:38.

the maintenance of peace and stability on the peninsular,

:40:39.:40:42.

and the settlement of issue through dialogue and consultations.

:40:43.:40:46.

China stands opposed to any chaos or war on the peninsular.

:40:47.:40:50.

Enhancing military deployment on the peninsular will not help

:40:51.:40:52.

towards achieving the goal of denuclearisation

:40:53.:40:54.

The deployment of the THAAD system in Northeast Asia severely

:40:55.:41:01.

jeopardises regional strategic balance, undermining

:41:02.:41:05.

the strategic security interests of all regional

:41:06.:41:07.

It will further escalate tension on the peninsular making the issue

:41:08.:41:14.

TRANSLATION: As for North Korea and the tests that are being carried

:41:15.:41:22.

out, we are committed to all UN Security Council resolutions,

:41:23.:41:27.

and insist that our North Korean neighbours observe them in full.

:41:28.:41:30.

We have stuck to this principle during discussion

:41:31.:41:33.

We are united against North Korea. There is no doubt about that. It's

:41:34.:41:48.

time for the North Korean regime to recognise the danger they are

:41:49.:41:51.

putting themselves in. The United States will not allow their

:41:52.:41:54.

lawlessness to continue. And the rest of the world is with us. Thank

:41:55.:41:55.

you. Our correspondent Rupert

:41:56.:42:02.

Wingfield-Hayes is in Tokyo for us now. The Prime Minister Theresa May

:42:03.:42:07.

has arrived in Japan. What has she said about this? That's right, she

:42:08.:42:12.

just arrived here for a visit that was supposed to focus on trade but

:42:13.:42:17.

she has flown into the middle of this North Korea latest missile

:42:18.:42:20.

issue. The Prime Minister speaking a short time ago firstly condemned

:42:21.:42:27.

again the missile firing by North Korea as an illegal action. She said

:42:28.:42:32.

she was glad to see the UN Security Council was unanimous in voting to

:42:33.:42:36.

condemn North Korea's launch. She said she would talk to the Japanese

:42:37.:42:40.

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe about action between the UK and Japan. She

:42:41.:42:46.

said the world is once again looking to China to use its leveraged over

:42:47.:42:49.

North Korea to stop it carrying out further tests. The problem is, the

:42:50.:42:56.

statements you heard from the Chinese and Russian Foreign

:42:57.:42:58.

ministers, on the surface it looks like the UN Security Council is

:42:59.:43:02.

united, but beneath the surface it is clear that the Chinese attitude

:43:03.:43:06.

is very different to the American attitude. China's Foreign Minister

:43:07.:43:09.

was essentially blaming the Americans and South Koreans for

:43:10.:43:15.

holding these military exercises and basing new anti-missile systems in

:43:16.:43:17.

South Korea for provoking North Korea. That isn't the view here, or

:43:18.:43:22.

in Seoul or in Washington. It's very much seen as North Korea being

:43:23.:43:27.

provocative and America and its allies defending themselves. Rupert,

:43:28.:43:29.

thank you. Ji-hyun Park is a North

:43:30.:43:32.

Korean defector. She left the country in 2004

:43:33.:43:34.

and joins us from Salford. Margaret Macmillan is a professor

:43:35.:43:38.

of Modern History at Margaret, how volatile is the

:43:39.:43:55.

situation? Is very volatile, a lot happening in a very small part of

:43:56.:43:58.

the world with lots of troops, ships and aircraft. I'm very worried about

:43:59.:44:03.

the rhetoric. This isn't a situation where people can say and do silly

:44:04.:44:07.

things. So I am worried. What do you think would be the best thing right

:44:08.:44:12.

now? China is saying that what's coming out of the US and South Korea

:44:13.:44:19.

is provoking the situation. From their perspective they are

:44:20.:44:23.

defending. The only thing I think can possibly do a deal with North

:44:24.:44:29.

Korea is a concerted effort by the powers, and I'm encouraged by the UN

:44:30.:44:33.

Security Council resolution. But I think China is the key player. The

:44:34.:44:38.

Chinese have a real worry. If the North Korean economy collapses, and

:44:39.:44:42.

it's pretty shaky at the Best Of Times, they fear the prospect of

:44:43.:44:49.

millions of North Korean population moving into China. They have every

:44:50.:44:53.

right to feel concerned about that situation. There are very few levers

:44:54.:44:58.

to use North Korea because it's very self-sufficient as an economy, so

:44:59.:45:01.

it's not really possible to ratchet up the targeted sanctions that have

:45:02.:45:04.

worked in the case of Iran very effectively. I'm hoping that if the

:45:05.:45:11.

United States and China manage, with Russia, to work together, that they

:45:12.:45:15.

can put some pressure on North Korea and de-escalates what is now a very

:45:16.:45:22.

worrying situation. What do you think would make North Korea think

:45:23.:45:26.

again? There have been international sanctions and they haven't stopped

:45:27.:45:27.

the tests. I know that the North Korean

:45:28.:45:39.

government are scared about sanctions. It is more than 20 years

:45:40.:45:50.

now. This is maybe more powerful than

:45:51.:46:20.

sanctions, the North Korean people. Since the 1990s it's always the

:46:21.:46:25.

people that stand up. But inside North Korea, the North Korean people

:46:26.:46:34.

haven't changed their minds because the North Korean government have

:46:35.:46:36.

always controlled the North Korean people. Many people don't know what

:46:37.:46:48.

happens outside the country and inside the country. But nowadays

:46:49.:46:53.

many North Korean people listen to the radio and watch South Korean

:46:54.:47:00.

drama. It is still a dangerous thing but they've heard about things

:47:01.:47:07.

outside the country. People have changed their minds a little bit.

:47:08.:47:17.

Nowadays news is power. Margaret, when North Korea talks

:47:18.:47:47.

about a meaningful prelude to containing Guam, and we hear the

:47:48.:47:51.

rhetoric from Donald Trump on that, how do you anticipate where we are

:47:52.:47:56.

heading right now? I think Kim Jong-Un is doing what he's done

:47:57.:48:04.

effectively. He's having to make an impression on the outside world and

:48:05.:48:08.

that is nuclear missiles. He's using it to perhaps get a better deal for

:48:09.:48:13.

North Korea. The danger is he's dealing with someone in Donald Trump

:48:14.:48:16.

who is unpredictable and is given to the grand gesture. It's not clear

:48:17.:48:20.

that in those circumstances you're going to get what you hope which is

:48:21.:48:25.

cooler heads prevailing. I think the possibility of the regime collapsing

:48:26.:48:28.

from within is a real one. We don't know enough about what's going on.

:48:29.:48:32.

It is more open than it was, people do have more sources of information,

:48:33.:48:38.

that's true. It may be that there are those within the North Korean

:48:39.:48:43.

regime and military who see this path is very dangerous. We just

:48:44.:48:47.

don't know. What we have to hope is that cooler heads in the States and

:48:48.:48:51.

North Korea and China and Russia managed to pull back the level of

:48:52.:48:55.

rhetoric and managed to try and get some sort of agreement. There was a

:48:56.:49:01.

very promising policy in the late 1990s and early 2000s when South

:49:02.:49:06.

Korea tried to open up relations with North Korea. My feeling is the

:49:07.:49:11.

more contacts we can have with North Korea the better, and the more we

:49:12.:49:14.

can try to use diplomacy and other means to bring it into contact with

:49:15.:49:20.

the outside world the better. There is a real danger because North Korea

:49:21.:49:24.

has been moving very quickly to acquire the sort of technology where

:49:25.:49:28.

it can threaten its neighbours, and eventually threaten the eastern

:49:29.:49:32.

seaboard of the United States. What does North Korea actually want? If

:49:33.:49:36.

they are intent on conflict, which is what it looks like, assumedly

:49:37.:49:42.

there's nothing to stop North Korea? It's difficult to gauge. There are

:49:43.:49:48.

others who has studied North Korea for longer than I have. I think what

:49:49.:49:52.

North Korea wants is respect, I think what it would like his more

:49:53.:49:57.

trade, the lifting of sanctions. Sanctions have hit what is already a

:49:58.:50:01.

very poor economy. So it is possible that North Korea isn't behaving

:50:02.:50:07.

irrationally. It's using what it has which is the threat of nuclear

:50:08.:50:10.

weapons, and that is basically all it has because it doesn't have any

:50:11.:50:14.

other sort of power. I think what it is hoping for is perhaps more

:50:15.:50:19.

acceptance by the rest of the world and the lifting of the existing

:50:20.:50:23.

sanctions, and the possibility for its leadership to travel abroad.

:50:24.:50:26.

Unless we try and engage with them, we won't know what they want. Thank

:50:27.:50:29.

you both very much indeed. The Scottish Labour leader

:50:30.:50:33.

Keiza Dugdale has quit Taking over the role

:50:34.:50:35.

after Labour's disastrous General Election result in 2015,

:50:36.:50:38.

when it was left with just one Westminster MP, Ms Dugdale said

:50:39.:50:41.

it was time to "pass on the baton" She's previously criticised

:50:42.:50:44.

Jeremy Corbyn and has faced criticism from left-wing members

:50:45.:50:47.

of her own party. But she's denied she was

:50:48.:50:50.

under pressure to leave. Keiza Dugdale is one of three female

:50:51.:50:53.

Scottish party leaders in Hollyrood, along with First Minister and SNP

:50:54.:50:56.

leader Nicola Sturgeon, and Scottish Conservative

:50:57.:50:59.

leader Ruth Davidson. What does this mean

:51:00.:51:03.

for the Labour Party in Scotland, and who might replace

:51:04.:51:25.

Keiza Dugdale as leader? Let's get the view

:51:26.:51:27.

political commentator Catherine MacLeod is a political

:51:28.:51:29.

commentator and former special advisor to the last

:51:30.:51:35.

Labour Chancellor and Scottish MP Alistair Darling, and Rhea Wolfson,

:51:36.:51:40.

who is on the Labour Party's ruling National Executive Committee,

:51:41.:51:43.

she was backed by momentum Thank you very much for joining us.

:51:44.:51:58.

Was she forced out, did she have to go? No, she wasn't forced out. I

:51:59.:52:04.

think... You can hear it from Kezia Dugdale that she wasn't forced out.

:52:05.:52:09.

I think anyone trying to write that story does a disservice to have. I

:52:10.:52:14.

think she has made a brave choice and quite a unique one for a

:52:15.:52:17.

political leader. She's stepped down on the back of a successful campaign

:52:18.:52:22.

in order to allow her party to move forward and build, and have a huge

:52:23.:52:26.

amount of respect for her. I really want to stress that I think for

:52:27.:52:30.

people to be saying that she's not making the choice that she is making

:52:31.:52:33.

is a disservice and quite patronising to her. What's your take

:52:34.:52:39.

on what's happening? Most people I've spoken to are taking's own

:52:40.:52:47.

explanation at face value. I think this was predominantly a personal

:52:48.:52:54.

decision. I don't think you can completely dismiss internal tensions

:52:55.:52:58.

and other factors. As Kezia Dugdale said herself, the death of a close

:52:59.:53:01.

friend earlier this year forced her to re-evaluate where she's going.

:53:02.:53:08.

She's recently turned 36. As a lot of people will know, her previous

:53:09.:53:11.

relationship failed and she's recently entered another one. I

:53:12.:53:16.

think frankly she's chosen life over politics, which is quite refreshing.

:53:17.:53:20.

What does it mean now for Labour in Scotland? It means inevitably that

:53:21.:53:27.

there's going to be a leadership challenge, Alex Bradley and Neal

:53:28.:53:39.

Finley might stand. I don't know if any of them have thrown their hat

:53:40.:53:43.

into the ring yet. In the short term I think there will be implications

:53:44.:53:50.

for the Labour Party National conference, because Kezia had fought

:53:51.:53:53.

hard to get a place on the NEC. She will now not be filling that place

:53:54.:53:58.

and it will probably be Alex Riley filling the place because he is the

:53:59.:54:05.

Deputy leader. Rhea, in terms of where labour is in Scotland, it's

:54:06.:54:09.

obviously fallen far behind, pushed into third place by the Scottish

:54:10.:54:17.

Conservatives who are behind the SNP. How does Labour distinguish

:54:18.:54:24.

itself in Scotland now? I think Labour is on the right fitting to be

:54:25.:54:27.

distinguishing itself. I think that's one of the great successes as

:54:28.:54:33.

Kezia moves on which it is that we have a clear manifesto which isn't

:54:34.:54:37.

about union is more independence. It is about radical change in society

:54:38.:54:42.

and that socialist message which was very successful during the general

:54:43.:54:52.

election. For me moving forward, the emphasis on picking a new leader

:54:53.:54:56.

isn't necessarily their character and background but will be about who

:54:57.:54:59.

is the best person to take forward that message. And the national

:55:00.:55:02.

message about hope and optimism, demanding more from our society and

:55:03.:55:08.

moving away from Tory austerity. That is what Scottish Labour has to

:55:09.:55:12.

offer and it's about who's going to take that forward. David, why is it

:55:13.:55:25.

that Labour's fortunes have changed so dramatically in Scotland? They

:55:26.:55:29.

haven't changed that dramatically. They did well in the recent election

:55:30.:55:33.

but their share of the vote only went up by 2.5%. It's all relative,

:55:34.:55:39.

the result two years ago was pretty devastating. There is a sense that

:55:40.:55:46.

they are making more progress. I think partly because the Unionist

:55:47.:55:49.

nationalist dynamic, the constitutional debate in Scotland,

:55:50.:55:55.

the tide has receded a bit and that's opened up space for more

:55:56.:56:00.

traditional politics. Jeremy Corbyn was a new face, a freshfaced and was

:56:01.:56:06.

saying something new, even now Nicola Sturgeon is an old face and

:56:07.:56:12.

the SNP are subject to the inevitable cycle of politics. Who

:56:13.:56:16.

would you anticipate taking over? I think that Anas Sarwar will stand. I

:56:17.:56:26.

think Alex Riley will. I'm not sure about Neil Findlay, he has said he

:56:27.:56:30.

went, that's not necessarily reliable. I think he has been quite

:56:31.:56:35.

strong on that point. I think Alex Riley must be well placed. The

:56:36.:56:39.

trouble Anas Sarwar will have is that he seen in the Blairite mould.

:56:40.:56:44.

As we know from recent events, it candidates from that wing of the

:56:45.:56:48.

party, I think the time has come and gone. Does it need to be a Corbyn

:56:49.:56:55.

Easter? I think it needs to be someone who is willing to closely

:56:56.:56:58.

associate themselves with the party nationally. In the past couple of

:56:59.:57:04.

months I think that is important because that's where the momentum is

:57:05.:57:09.

and where the appetite for changes. You're talking about independence

:57:10.:57:13.

and that ebbing away, I think it's been replaced by a change. I think

:57:14.:57:19.

Anas Sarwar will be hindered by the fact he signed a letter calling for

:57:20.:57:22.

Corbyn to step down. But ultimately for me it's more about looking

:57:23.:57:27.

forward as opposed to looking back and scrutinising their people stood

:57:28.:57:31.

on certain issues 18 months ago. Thank you very much indeed. We will

:57:32.:57:36.

obviously have to watch and see how things unfold. David, Rhea,

:57:37.:57:43.

Catherine, thank you. I want to finish by bringing more comments on

:57:44.:57:46.

the Great British Bake Off. 6.5 million viewers last night on

:57:47.:57:52.

Channel 4 which is a big number for Channel 4. One reviewer says, am I

:57:53.:57:58.

the only one who boycotted it, I have no intention of watching it

:57:59.:58:02.

without my fave women presenting. I loved Great British Bake Off, I was

:58:03.:58:05.

sceptical but I thought they did a very good job and Prue Leith and

:58:06.:58:11.

Noel Fielding and Sandi Toksvig were excellent, it must have been

:58:12.:58:15.

difficult to step into their shoes. I'd love to see Nan and Rob on Great

:58:16.:58:18.

British Bake Off next year. They were with us in the studio earlier

:58:19.:58:21.

and brought some cake. Frank Lloyd Wright is the

:58:22.:58:35.

greatest ever American architect.

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