08/09/2017 Victoria Derbyshire

It's Friday, it's nine o'clock, I'm Chloe Tilley.

State of emergency is declared in the British Virgin Islands as

hurricane and it continues to devastate region. Pictures show the

island flattened. All of us have been affected by Irma

and some more than others. Apart from the structural damage

there've sadly been reports 14 people have died in the region

with another British territory, Turks and Caicos Islands,

the latest to be hit. The tiny island of Barbuda is almost

entirely destroyed. A lot of the people there cannot

stay in that condition. A lot of houses, a lot

of structures, a lot of commercial places,

cell towers, everything We will have all of the details,

including the latest on the rescue effort.

Also this morning: From England cricketer

Former England cricketer Chris Lewis tells us

Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

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Our top story today, Hurricane Irma - one

of the strongest storms ever recorded in the Atlantic -

is continuing its path of destruction through the Caribbean.

At least 14 people have died and hundreds of buildings have been

Deaths have been reported in the US and British Virgin Islands,

Barbuda and St Martin were the first to feel the full force of the winds

and storm surge followed by Puerto Rico.

Haiti and the Turks and Caicos islands are the latest places

This is what it's like to look out of your hotel room

in the Turks and Caicos, knowing that one of the strongest

storms in recent memory is heading your way.

Starting to hear the noise of the wind as well,

But we're not even close to the worst bit yet.

On the British Virgin Islands there have been

With communications severely disrupted, the governor issued this

audio message declaring a state of emergency.

All of us have been affected by Irma, and some more than others.

Apart from the structural damage, there have sadly been reports

My thoughts and prayers are with each and every one of you.

At least one person is believed to have died on the British

territory of Anguilla, where residents sheltered

in the strongest part of their homes for safety.

We were in the bath with a mattress above us.

That's how we sort of managed to keep safe and dry.

I think a lot of people were in a similar situation.

We've seen houses with cars that have been just picked up

Barbuda was one of the first islands to be hit by Irma.

It is now less than 48 hours away from the impact

Jose has sustained wind speeds of 120 mph and it looks likely

to gain in strength over the next day or two.

The UK Government has been facing criticism that it didn't respond

quickly enough to help people in overseas territories. Let's go live

to the Foreign Office and Andy Moore. Let's talk about that

criticism, first of all. Tell us more about it? Well, the criticism

has come from those on the islands, representatives of the islands in

the UK. Someone like Baroness Amos, who used to coordinate relief effort

for the UN. She said Britain had acted too late. We have heard from

the Prime Minister, ?32 million has been allocated for disaster relief

and there are a lot of military assets in the regional on the way

there. First, you have the Royal Fleet auxiliary ship. That is

offering help to the residents of Anguilla, the British territory.

That ship as helicopters, it has earth moving equipment, it has

emergency rations on board. Then there is a task group, the first

elements of which are leaving this morning from Brize Norton. These

giant C17 aircraft, carrying personnel and rations, some of them

carrying helicopters, which are very important in the relief effort. Then

you have HMS Ocean, the flagship of the Royal Navy. Again, it is an

aircraft carrier, on its way from the Mediterranean to the Caribbean.

But it will take up to two weeks to get there. Let's head over to the

BBC newsroom. Annita McVeigh is in the BBC

Newsroom with a summary At least five people have died

after an earthquake with a magnitude The earthquake struck

off the Pacific Coast A tsunami warning has been issued

for Mexico and six other Local authorities say it's

the strongest quake to hit the country since the devastating

1985 tremor that brought down buildings and killed

thousands of people. Journalist Franc Contreras

is in Mexico City and described I could hear my dog

barking, animals barking. Dogs barking all over

the neighbourhood, I should say. Suddenly, you could start to feel

the building move quite heavily. You could hear loud

cracks in the concrete. It sounded like a giant

wooden branch being just People were streaming out

of the hallways here, on the floor that I live on I saw

a man in his pyjamas, carrying his little

daughter in her pyjamas. The mother was carrying

the little dog. Everybody walking out,

single file, into the streets. Trying to avoid high power lines,

electricity lines that could fall on you, in the case of an earthquake

of this sort. Young offenders from ethnic minority

backgrounds will become "the next generation" of adult criminals

unless the justice system is reformed, according to a review

led by the MP David Lammy. The inquiry makes a series

of recommendations - these include allowing some

prosecutions to be deferred, or even dropped, if suspects get

treatment for issues such as drug Noel Williams was 11 when he first

got involved in gangs. By the age of 13 he was imprisoned

for robberies and drug dealing. I'm in and out of the system,

been there three times. A lot of bullying goes

on and as we say lack of prison staff so they don't pick up

on certain things, people are self-harming,

if they don't cut their arms He's now turned his life around

but he believes race and ethnicity plays a part in how you're treated

and punished within It's unjust, of course it's unjust,

and if you look at the sentences we get, they're longer,

sentences are harsher and people are coming out not rehabilitated,

sometimes they come out and reoffend at an accelerated rate

to their counterparts too. The Lammy Review makes a number

of key recommendations, such as removing identifying

information about ethnicity when cases are passed from police

to prosecutors so racial bias doesn't influence

charging decisions. I'm very worried about our

prison system, I think where there's clearly overt

discrimination going on and some of the treatment

is just unacceptable. It's one of the largest reviews

of its kind and highlights that radical reform is urgently needed

to bring fairness to The government is accusing Labour

of a "cynical" attempt to block The bill paves the way for leaving

the European Union in March 2019. Labour and other opposition parties

have promised to vote against it next week insisting it gives

sweeping powers to ministers The Brexit secretary David Davis

claimed Britons "will not forgive" Labour if they try to "delay

or destroy" the process Pilots at package tour airline

Thomas Cook are staging a 12-hour The walkout, which started

at 3am, is by members of the British Airline

Pilots' Association. It is thought to be the first

strike by pilots in the UK Union members voted by nine-to-one

to take industrial action An appeal by the company

to overturn the ballot result The Nobel prize winner

Malala Yousafzai has called on the leader of Myanamar,

Aung San Suu Kyi, to help the country's Rohingya Muslim

minority. Thousands of Rohingya have fled

because of violence. Malala called for an international

response to the violence in Myanmar. She spoke to the BBC

as she prepares to start England's first new grammar school

in five decades has opened. The academically-selective school

in Sevenoaks is being set up as an annexe to The Weald

of Kent Grammar in Tonbridge - meaning it escaped a legal

ban on the opening of Critics say it's

by-passing the law. A 13-year-old girl who died

from a brain aneurysm has helped eight different people through organ

donation - a record number. Jemima Layzell, from

Somerset, died in 2012. Her parents said she was clever,

compassionate and creative - and would have been "very proud

of her legacy". NHS Blood and Transplant

said no other donor had That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 9.30. Let's get some sport now. Let's talk

about the US open. Lots of people getting excited that Venus Williams

might reach her first final since 2002, but it wasn't meant to be?

There's nothing better than watching an underdog triumph. Venus Williams

was beaten by a player that was on their sofa, with a large cast on her

left foot in January, watching the Australian open on television. I'm

talking about and seeded American Sloane Stephens. She more than

bounced back from her injury. She defeated the ninth seed.

She'll face Madison Keys who crushed Coco Vandeweghe in straight sets.

The pair will both be making their grand slam final

debuts on Saturday - the last time that happened was 15

years ago when Serena Williams beat her sister Venus.

It feels absolutely amazing. You know, these are the moments growing

up that you dream about. To be sitting here as US open finalist, it

feels amazing. She is a close friend of mine, so to be able to play her

in both of our first finals is a really special moment, especially

with everything we have gone through this year. Always nice to see

genuine joy from a sports person. Let's talk about cricket. A dramatic

first day in the deciding first test? Yes, it was going so well as

Ben Stokes reached a new career high, taking six wickets, helping

bowl the West Indies out for just 123. But then England struggled in

reply. Poor batting from England. It put them into trouble, really. Joe

Root's side closed and 46-4. Afterwards, Ben Stokes came out

quite positive and said England will be able to handle it. That's all for

now. I will have more in 30 minutes. Hurricane scientists say they have

never seen anything like this on modern record, as Hurricane Irma

hurtles through the Caribbean with two weather systems in its wake, a

meteorologist described it as unparalleled. This is what looks

like the satellite. Hurricane has already caused devastation, with

Jose and patio close behind. It has taken lives and destroyed properties

from Barbados, poor to regard the British Virgin Islands. Flooding,

power cuts in the northern parts of the Dominican Republic and in Haiti.

Tens of thousands are in need of shelter after the high winds laid

waste to buildings. The Turks and Caicos are the latest to feel the

force. The wind speed has dropped, but it is still reaching 165 mph as

it heads towards the southern tip of the United States. Its path now goes

over the Turks and Caicos. You can see it clipping Cuba's northern

coast before hitting the Bahamas and ploughing into the Florida

peninsula. Preparations are being made in the islands that are yet to

feel the force of it. In Cuba, thousands of tourists have been

moved to safety from exposed coastal resorts. In the Bahamas, people are

boarding up, stocking up on packing up. In Miami, preparations as well.

There is a state of emergency in Florida. Hurricane Irma is set to

hit overnight on Sunday. These people are preparing to bunker down

while thousands of others have been clogging the roads and airports as

they flee. Let's go back to the British Virgin Islands and hear more

now from the governor. That public announcement that he made after the

hurricane hit. People of the British

Virgin Islands, this Simon Cross, who moved to the

British Virgin Islands two years ago, told us what happened in the

force of the storm. In our house, the major

warning was when a skylight was blown off

the We could hear the wind is blasting

through the upstairs of the house, and at that point,

we thought maybe the roof was going to go,

so that was our main indicator to get

the hell downstairs into the basement, the most secure

part of the building. We had shutters that had been

secured, and I had been pulling around and had a lot

of confidence that they would protect the building,

and the next thing you know, they are ripped

off the French doors that were protecting us

in the Ten minutes later,

the other one went off the other French doors,

so we were completely exposed. Missiles from trees

or debris or whatever can easily just penetrate through there,

but fortunately, nothing happened. When the eye came, it gave

us almost a half-time to re-evaluate, see

what we could do in the meantime to get ready

for the Myself and the father of the family

quickly rushed upstairs and did our best to nail

timber over the skylight wind from getting

underneath the roof. We just about managed to do that

before the second wave came, at which point we rushed

downstairs to the basement. And the wind was scary

and ferocious enough that we all ended up huddling in the adjoining

bathroom, which managed to still have a small window protected

by metal shutters, and that was the Fortunately, these mahogany

French doors managed to hold, but the wind was like nothing

I've ever known in my life. Let me bring you this news, which is

just reaching us from our defence correspondent, Jonathan Beale. The

Royal Navy ship RFA mounts Bay is on the way to help in relief efforts

following Hurricane Irma. The ship has already stopped off in Anguilla

and is carrying 50 Royal Marines and army engineers. That is reaching us,

that is a Royal Navy ship is on its way to help with relief.

The tiny island of Barbuda has been hit badly, with up to 95% of

buildings destroyed. Karl Josef spoke to us earlier and told us what

he saw. We did an overview of Barbuda,

and by and large, a lot You saw large patches of water

as you went, as we took that view going to the

helipad in Barbuda. Also, what struck me before we even

touched down was the fact There were no leaves

on the trees whatsoever. The hurricane had completely

ravaged not only the houses and structures but the trees

on the island, so the vegetation All you saw was bark and stems,

and everything just brown, so that wasn't a good sign,

even before you touched down in Once we got there, we were met

at the helipad with folks trying to get

off the island itself. A lot of people were trying to seek

refuge, of course, in A lot of people were trying to get

off of the island by any means necessary, because

a lot of the houses, like I said before,

were That is a word that the prime

minister of Antigua and Barbuda used just yesterday,

when he first touched down into He basically said that a lot

of the people cannot stay in Is there any food, any shelter,

left for the people in When I went there today,

as I journeyed down that main street towards the wharf,

maybe in about 2007, I can't remember which year,

the government had built a strong complex for fisheries,

where they were supposed That is one of the main things

that Barbuda does - it So they built a very

strong complex to house the lobster, the fish to be exported

throughout the Caribbean and the rest of the world,

so a lot of people tried to make their way down

to Today, when I went down there,

that is where a lot of the distribution of food, water,

clothes, that was being done down So, if folks wanted to get stuff

for their children and for their families, they would have

made their way there. Most of the people were

gathered there today. That is where the main

sort of shelter was. I'm glad you said where the shelter

is, because after the hurricane would have passed and done damage

to Barbuda, if they got, like, simple drizzle or simple rain,

they would Of course, we know that

Hurricane Jose could be That is just today

the cabinet made a decision. I think at first it was voluntary,

and I think they used more stronger language today,

that they don't just want it to be a They are compelling folks

without having to say compelling people to

evacuate to Antigua. Provisions are being made to house

folks from Barbuda in Antigua, because irrespective of

what sort of weather pattern comes on Saturday, when Jose

is expected to come, Most folks won't be

able to sustain it. Ride-mac we will have much more on

hurricane Irma later in the programme. -- we will have much more

on Irma later in the programme. "If you're black, you're treated

more harshly by the criminal justice system than if you're white" -

an admission from Theresa May soon So will the final report

from a major review commissioned by Downing Street and carried out

by the Labour MP David But when it came to drug offences,

ethnic minorities are around 240% more likely to be sent to prison

compared to white offenders. Ethnic minority male prisoners

are more likely to be placed Here's the report's author,

MP David Lammy, speaking a little We have now created a situation

in our country were 41% of our youth prison system,

that's young people as young as ten and as old as 18, is from a black

or minority ethnic background. I mean, that's more than double

the amount of black and ethnic minority young people

in our country. That is a significant issue and it

suggests that our adult prison population will grow as well

if we don't try to do The Secretary of State for Justice

says the ministry of justice wants to eradicate all injustices within

society. What struck me about the report too was the reality is that

very large numbers of British people from

our black and ethnic minority communities lack confidence in the

criminal justice system. No minister, no Government of any

political colour can be happy David Lammy's recommendations

offer a possible route for doing some of that,

and we'll be responding in detail Let Speaker Jeremy Corbyn could --

to Jeremy Crook. And Helen Beresford is director of engagement for social

justice charity. Jeremy Corbyn first of all, is there discrimination in

the justice system, is there a perception of it all a reality?

There are many black and Muslim men in prisons who face discrimination.

We can look at the inspection reports every year, which show clear

bias in prisons and complaints about how black and Asian prisoners are

treated. There is no doubt that there is overworked and unconscious

issues in prisons for black and Asian prisoners, so I welcome the

report because it has put a real spotlight on this issue and the need

for prisons to reflect our prisons, which are diverse, to better assess

prisoners when they come to prison at first, and to make sure that the

best possible practical solutions are put in place to make sure

prisoners can be rehabilitated, given support and not suffer bias

and discrimination in prison that they have often experienced outside.

I'm sure a lot of people watching will be thinking, how are people who

are black or Asian treated differently in prison? In terms of

how a prisoner is given opportunity to go and get learning, to have

opportunity to work in prison, they feel that it is often based on

privilege and the bias of particular officers giving priority to white

prisoners rather than black and Asian. Muslim prisoners often wonder

whether their faith is understood by officers who are not from that

background and who can often disrespect that faith and their

individuality and therefore not give a full and proper service to those

individuals. The stereotyping black and Muslim men and women in our

society also permeates prisons as well, so we shouldn't be surprised

by that, but it is about making sure that officers are given the right

training and support to make sure they can meet the needs of

individuals fully so we don't have men coming out of prison and

reoffending at high rates because they are black or Muslim, but also

while they are in prison, that they can get the support they need and

can be treated with respect and dignity. Let's talk about before

they get to prison, because one of the issues raised in the report,

Helen, is about this deficit of trust, David Lammy suggesting that

more black defendants would plead guilty and therefore get a discount

on their sentence if they had confidence that the magistrate would

give them a reasonable and fair sentence. Like Jeremy, we really

support the launch of this report. It is really important to look

across the whole justice system and beyond, as you say, before people

enter the justice system, and afterwards as well, including the

criminal record issue. David Lammy rightly highlights this issue of a

trust deficit. We know from our work with disadvantaged people and adults

across the country that there can be this mistrust around engaging with

statutory services. In particular, we find this is with the police, but

actually, the impact of that mistrust with the police is across

all of the justice system and all statutory services as well. Once you

have had a negative experience of something like that, you are less

likely to engage positively in future. How do you change that? Is

it as simple as saying, let's get more black and ethnic minority

officers in the police, judges, magistrates, or is that too

simplistic? That is fundamentally important. We do need more police

officers, prison officers, magistrates and judges, so I think

David Lammy is right to say that should be addressed, and there is a

target to reach that in time for 2025 in the case of judges. We have

only 6% of police officers in the country from black and Asian

backgrounds, so we need to do better. Clearly, we have to improve

stop and search. That is the real issue that diminishes trust in the

police. Not just for young people but for older people. If we can get

a grip on that and reduce that, make sure it is targeted and looks at

criminals rather than the whole community, that would be a step

forward. It is not about numbers only, it is about leadership, prison

governors, the Secretary of State, the chief of their probation and

prison service saying, this is something we must make progress on

and do it now, because it has been an issue for a long period of time.

We had been working on it for format years through the Young Review and

we have seen little improvement in the outcomes for black and Muslim

men, for example. I want to pick up on some

controversial elements, some people might think this is not fair. Things

like prosecutions being deferred, people not being sentenced until

they have taken part in a community programme, things like sealed

criminal records, after you have served a certain amount of time, if

you can prove you have moved on, employers would not necessarily know

you have a criminal record. Some people would feel uncomfortable with

that? If I start with criminal records, we have a very complex,

confusion and other true system of disclosure of criminal records at

the moment. It has a huge impact from Julie Macron how people move

from being involved in crime into a positive future, but they are held

back by having to disclose, or not knowing when to disclose, employers

that don't know what the rules are, and they are more likely to be risk

averse, in terms of blame people that have a criminal record. We run

an advice service advising individuals and employers on right

and responsible at ease. But we know we have to have fundamental change.

If we want to give people a chance to move on, do not reoffend, to get

a job, one of the core things about rehabilitation and moving on to life

after crime, we need to get those things right. We absolutely support

a fundamental review of the criminal records regime and looking at this

new optional sealed disclosure. Thanks for coming in and talking to

us. Still to come, from international

cricket to drug smuggling. Chris Smith tells us about the string of

bad decisions that landed him in prison. And two mothers who

struggled with reading and writing tell us how hard it became when they

had children and how they have managed to learn.

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of todays news.

Hurricane Irma has left a trail of destruction as it sweeps

It's already destroyed almost all buildings on Barbuda.

At least 14 people have been killed by the storm.

The Red Cross says an estimated 1.2 million people

A state of emergency has been declared in the British Virgin

Islands. Images show buildings razed to the ground and debris scattered

across streets. At least five people have died

after an earthquake with a magnitude The earthquake struck

off the Pacific Coast A tsunami warning has been issued

for Mexico and six other Local authorities say it's

the strongest quake to hit the country since the devastating

1985 tremor that brought down buildings and killed

thousands of people. Young offenders from ethnic minority

backgrounds will become the next generation of adult criminals

unless the justice system is reformed, according to a review

led by the MP David Lammy. The report makes more than 30

recommendations including allowing some prosecutions to be deferred

or even dropped if suspects get treatment for issues such as drug

or alcohol problems. Pilots at package to a airline

Thomas Cook are staging a 12 hour strike in a dispute over pay. The

walk-out, which started at 3am, is by members of the British Airline

Pilots Association. It is thought to be the first strike by pilots in the

UK since the mid-19 70s. Union members voted 9-1 for industrial

action in a turnout of 87%. An appeal by the company to overturn

the result was rejected by the High Court. A 13-year-old girl who died

from a brain aneurysm has helped eight different people through organ

donation, a record number. Jemima Rozelle from Somerset died in 2012.

Her parents said she was passionate and creative and would have been

very proud of her legacy. The NHS said no other donor had helped us

many people. That is a summary of the latest BBC News. Moore at ten

o'clock. Venus Williams missed out on her

first US Open final for 15 years. She lost to Sloane Stephen

in New York last night. The world number 83 was recovering

from injury in January It all means they'll

be two new faces in the women's final this year -

Stephens will go up against fellow American Madison keys who beat

CoCo Vandeweghe who later admitted she felt "crummy" about being dumped

out of the tournament. Ben Stokes says England will remain

positive on day two of the final It was all going so well as he took

six wickets to help bowl But England then struggled in reply

- and Joe Root's side Newcastle manager Rafael Benitez

will not hold his pre-match press conference later this morning ahead

of Sunday's game against Swansea. He is still recovering

from a hospital procedure to address an infection resulting

from a previous hernia operation. From England cricketer

to convicted drugs smuggler. Chris Lewis played 32 Tests and 53

One-Day internationals for England after his international debut

against the West Indies in 1991. He was tipped as

the next Ian Botham. But 17 years later after retiring

from cricket due to injury he was caught with cocaine worth

more than ?140,000 in his luggage after arriving

on a flight from the Caribbean He was sentenced to 13 years -

and released in 2015 after serving Chris Lewis has now written

a book about his life. It's called "Crazy: Road

to Redemption" and he's here's How does that feel? I was watching

your body language as I was reading that, to say England cricketer, you

sat up tall, as soon as I said drug smuggler, your body language

changed. Is it hard to hear even now? Yes, definitely. But it is just

one of those things I have to get used to. The fact is, I did try to

import drugs. As well as being an England cricketer, now I have the

label of being a drug smuggler. It is hard to take. But it is part of

the consequences of doing what I did. Let's look back at cricket,

first, before we talk about that. I know one of the things you said and

you write about in your book is the major impact on your career of going

to the ECB and saying you were approached about match fixing in

cricket. Tell us a bit about the approach, and also about the

response? The approach came out of the blue. It came from somebody I

had known vaguely. It was the owner of a local shop. He called and said

that he had a business proposition. I went along to the meeting,

eventually. The business proposition turned out to be an attempt to

influence cricket matches, England against New Zealand. The only thing

to do from there was to report it to the relevant authorities, which you

are supposed to do. I did. I told them all that was said. But,

consequently, later on, it came out that I was accusing England players,

I was a Judas. Within two or three months of that happening, I was out

of cricket. It is worth pointing out that further allegations were made

by another person at a future date about the Indian businessman. It was

investigated and no action was taken against him. Do you feel that your

career was taken away from you then, as a result? No, ultimately, choices

were made by me. By the end, I didn't want to be on the cricket

field. Certainly, those things played a major role in it coming to

an end so early. I had a contract with three years left, I was looking

forward to doing that. That was going on to be a benefit. But all

that happened in that year, going on to cricket feels, being booed by

spectators, receiving letters, being called Judas, it became my time to

leave. I didn't want to be in that environment any more. That

environment, it seemed it did not want me at that time. So I left in a

huff and a puff. Your career started with people saying you could be the

next Ian Boulton, huge excitement and presumably pressure? Not

initially. As a young man, you are quite excited, being compared to

somebody you grew up watching and admired, it was certainly

flattering. When it gets to the point when you are not performing

like the great man, and the expectation is for you to do that,

the pressure does build. I think that goes with the territory. If you

want to be an elite sportsmen, or elite at anything, there is going to

be pressure to perform. You got hassle in the dressing rooms, didn't

you, about being a bit flash, spending too much cash, also

questions about your private life, questions that maybe you were gay.

You had a hard time in the dressing room? The dressing room can be a

hard place. Everybody isn't all necessarily pally. There is a lot of

men there, and a lot of testosterone. I think a lot of those

came out, I use the word different loosely, I did things differently, I

didn't go to the pub, I didn't do things that cricketers traditionally

do. I have my own life away from cricket, I have my own friends away

from cricket. I like dancing late at night. In that, I wasn't necessarily

taking part in things that were traditionally seen as stuff for

cricketers. I don't think it helps, when sometimes you take your clothes

off for a woman's magazine. These are all things being seen. You did

do, there was a shoot a feud months earlier, and it came out, what much

was it, an important test? Just before the Test match at Lord's, the

Ashes Test match. It was bad timing. In a lot of things, I use the word

differently, I didn't necessarily fit the traditional mould. That was

always good to be problematic going forward. So, you have had this

successful career. People watching this will say how do you go from

that, being an England cricketer earning a decent amount of money, to

ending your career and trying to smuggle ?140,000 worth of liquid

cocaine into Gatwick Airport? In my case, it probably started a long

time before that. Cricket was fun, it was living the dream. But that

dream was always going to end. As a sportsman, you are told that your

career is only going to last for so much time. You think you understand

that, but you also believe it isn't going to happen to you. In my case,

I didn't actually take full advantage of the opportunity. The

opportunity to learn different things, to get ready for that moment

when cricket would end. Of course, I hoped that cricket would carry on

longer. As with most things, it doesn't really end to your script.

It ended early. What had happened is that I haven't prepared. Life after

cricket became difficult very quickly. Was just a decision that

you are saying? A lot of people watching this would say I have

struggled to put a roof over my kid's heads, to put food on the

table, I don't become a drug smuggler. What happens in your mind?

I agree. Lots of people are in difficult situations and have to

make difficult choices, and they don't become a drug smuggler. In my

case, what happened was, over a period of time, I had left cricket

sometime before, but over a period of time the worry I got myself into,

in mental state, where I became that desperate. Things that I never

thought of before became an option. Whether drugs were concerned, it was

more an immediate thing, trying to solve a situation right there and

then, and I made the wrong choices. Simply because, mentally, I was in a

place where it seemed, at the time, I was not really thinking. I was

more desperate and thinking properly, and made a desperate

choice. The moment when you did get caught, you are talking about the

concern of what your mum would think, about your brother. How did

it affect your relationships, that one moment, presumably everything in

your life changed? I suppose I am still assessing that. My brothers,

my mum, they have been very supportive through this difficult

time. Bearing in mind that I have embarrassed them and put them in a

difficult situation, they have been very supportive. But as a family,

people that you love, you look to get over the difficult times and

move on. That is what we're doing as a family. As an older brother, my

job was always to try to guide my younger siblings. Where that was

concerned, I certainly got it wrong. But it is also about going back to

that and taking the reins again, showing to your family and the

public at large who you are and that that incident is not your defining

moment. It was six and a half years of your life in prison. What was

that like, being in prison, being someone who is famous, recognised,

and England sportsmen? Initially it was just terrifying, until, over a

period of months or even a year, you eventually find the strength to

believe that, actually, I can do this. It's going to be long, it's

going to be hard, but after a period of time you understand, maybe after

a year or a year and a half, I can do this, if I break it down into

little bits. I've already done a year, so I can do another year and

get to the end. Eventually, you get to a place where you believe you can

do it. At the beginning, certainly, there was not much light. Everything

turned to sand, not by anybody else's hand, but my own. And you

could really see's a bright spot in the sky, and eventually get a bit of

hope and you can get to the end of it, and you hope that you can

rebuild afterwards. Have you been able to rebuild? Can

have people treated you since you came? And how is your financial

situation is leaving prison? It is difficult, because of course trust

has been eroded, in a number of ways. You have to rebuild trust.

There are consequences of doing what I did. It means now that you're a

criminal, is that potentially finding work isn't so easy, but that

is part of the consequences of making those decisions. The making

up after still goes on now, moving ahead still goes on now. It is a

slower process than before, because there are many other things you have

to consider now that you didn't before. Do you feel you have to give

something back? I know you are working trying to get more young

ethnic minority boys into cricket. I know you helping cricketers to

prepare for life after sport. Do you feel you owe people that? I wouldn't

say that I feel that I owe, but I feel as a person it is certain that

the right thing to do. It is what I want to do, and it is the place I am

in in my life at the moment. I have made mistakes, but through those

mistakes, I have gained an awful lot of experience, and it would be a

pity not to try to share that so that other people don't make the

same mistakes, because all the mistakes I made were avoidable with

a little thought, planning and foresight. Which you don't

necessarily always have as a young person. Thank you ever so much for

coming in to speak to us. I am very grateful to you by speaking to us.

We have contacted the England and Wales Cricket board about the claims

made by Chris Lewis is about match fixing. The ECB says many of the

people involved at the time had now left the organisation. They said

they would meet with Chris about his claims and discuss them in detail.

They also put out that in 2010 the ECB became the first board to set up

their own dedicated anti-corruption unit with monitoring of matches and

advice for players about the dangers posed by the illegal betting market.

Coming up: Turks and Caicos are the latest islands to feel the force of

Hurricane Irma. It's supposed to be one

of the greatest - and simplest - pleasures of being a parent,

reading to your child. But it's thought as many

as five million adults in the UK struggle with basic literacy

and it's a largely hidden problem. It's an issue being highlighted

today by Project Literacy - a global campaign involving more

than a hundred organisations committed to ending illiteracy

worldwide by 2030. Let's speak now to Sarah Todd

and Donna Stayner, two mums who couldn't read

but are now learning, and to Emma Buckle who's

from Project Literacy. Thank you, all, for coming in. Donna

and Sarah, first of all, Donna, explain to me but like many people

are watching thinking, how can you go through the British school system

and not be able to read? Guillemot I didn't really go through school. I

left at 14. But still, 14. I got bullied a lot and moved around, so I

wasn't able to learn. What about you? My dyslexia wasn't picked up

until the last year before I left primary school. It was only in that

last year that I realised there is something missing here and other

people are able to do things I can't. What impact does it have on

your day-to-day life? I was on a train a few months ago, and a man

asked a lady what station we were at, and we were next to the sign,

and he said, sorry, I can't read. That must be difficult. It is, yes.

In your day-to-day life, if you go shopping or if you get a letter in

the past to the back post, what did you do? I would handed over to my

husband or another member of my family. What about you? I would

cheat slightly. I would see brands and products that my parents would

buy and I would know that was possibly say. When it came to the

post, when I moved into my new flat, I had no idea what paperwork I was

meant to fill in, what I was meant to do. A week later, my dad would

visit and I would be like, I've got these letters, I don't understand

and I need you to read them. He would read them and be like, you

were meant to deal with them last week. And I would be like, I don't

know what they say, so he would deal with all the paperwork, and it just

felt like one more thing taken away from me that I'm not able to deal

with. So your parents were aware - what about you, Donna? I have been

down in Blandford, and I originally come from Kent, so my parents are

down in Kent, so... Thank you for coming in as well, Emma. How common

is this type of situation that Donna and Sarah had shared with us? A lot

more common than we would imagine in the UK. Over 5 million adults who

struggle with literacy in the UK, and it's a problem that they

struggle with that actually has implications far beyond reading and

writing, as you mentioned - the day-to-day struggles of being able

to read medication or understand it, which has an impact on your health,

or being able to understand transport and the impact on

day-to-day getting around, or even on employability and the job

opportunities you can access for the good and livelihood of your family.

It is an issue that we are addressing as Project Literacy in

collaboration with our partners. We're working with over 100 partners

worldwide. In the UK, as I mentioned, it is an issue that is

often hidden, as you mentioned. What we're trying do is to bring that to

light and raise the awareness about it through Project Literacy. It is

having an impact on people's learning, and that is our mission.

Project Literacy really is the foundation for that. Donna, did you

find it embarrassing? It was very embarrassing, and I just used to

feel sick, basically, not being able to read to my children and that. And

they spotted it? Nothing gets past children, does it? My oldest did,

because very bright. What did he say? He said, Mum, why can't you

help me with my homework? Why is it always Dad? What about you? My big

bugbear was when my children were small, they bring you these lovely

books and some were easy to read, but other books they would bring, I

would be like, no, no, no, let's turn on the TV, and I would find

something else to do because I couldn't read the stories they

wanted me to, which was heartbreaking. I was a single

parent, and I was the only one reading to them until my mum and dad

got there, and they would be like, please, and I would be like, no. It

is heartbreaking not to be able to read bedtime story to your children,

or not to be able to read to them at all. Now they are at a critical age,

at school, and I need to be able to read to them, and am glad I can.

Before, it was heartbreaking. What was the moment that force you to

say, I am going to go out and learn to read? It was going to hospital

with my an 11-year-old -- with my 11-year-old, because he has a nut

allergy. I felt awful taking him to the hospital and saying, he has

eaten nuts again because I cannot read the ingredients on the foods to

check. Did you know where to go? Not at first. I've got in touch with the

children's centre in Blandford. And it is thanks to the group that I

have come on so quickly. When my children first joined, they were two

and a half years. They couldn't say to their mother, you need to do

something about this. The Government suggest that as a single parent you

don't go to work until they are five years old, but before then you go to

the job centre and go to the workforce interview, where they give

you options to do courses or to gain extra skills before you go into the

world of work. The lady I had was lovely, her name was Carol, and she

said, what do you like to do for fun? And I said, drive to the beach,

followed Brown signs. She said, what is your biggest bugbear? I said, I'm

not very good at cooking, looked at the floor, burst into tears. She

said, what is the problem? I said, I can't read to my children, and I

would love to be able to read bedtime stories to them. She said,

actually, I know a charity called Read Easy, and they are amazing,

take on adults who can't be, and they will take you from nothing to

something. Then I met Jenny through that, and she got me a few coaches,

and like I say, I have gone from being a withering old caterpillar

that is stubborn and refuses to admit to being dyslexic to now, as

everyone keeps on saying, this amazing, confident butterfly that is

more than happy and begs my children, please, let me read to

you! How long does it take to learn to read? We know that children are

little sponges and pick things up really fast. My five-year-old

terrifies me, she's so quick. Is it hard as an adult? I have been going

on for 18 months and I'm still not quite there yet, but I find it a

easier. It took me to met years, and I kept persisting. I think the thing

that helped me the most was, I would start with the project, got so far,

I came to my mum and dad and said, I've got something to show you. I

pulled out a book and started reading, and my mum and dad were

like... Every time I've done something, my mum and dad have

always gone, we're really proud of you, well done. It feels really nice

for me to know that someone is really proud of you, but it gave me

that tiny bit more encouragement to go forward and read. When I

completed it... Sorry. It was really nice. Don't apologise. One Sunday I

thought, I will go to church on Sunday, and I was asked to read a

passage, and I was like, I'm going to do this. Before I read, I said

you'll have to excuse me if I'm wobbly, but it is the first time I

have read in front of strangers in public, and afterwards they give me

a round of applause, which was amazing. Anyone who has difficulty

reading who is watching this only needs to listen to you to get

inspiration. If there is one person sitting at home thinking, that is

me, what would you say to them? Ignore the world where you they say

to you, because you have an issue, you have a label. Just say, I have

an issue, where can I get help from? It is out there if you speak up. You

can go to your GP, go to your local centre, people are there to help

you. No one will point at you and laugh. They are there with open arms

and they will say, we're here, we will help you out, what do you need?

It is taking the first step in having that confidence. Just like

with previous issues I've had, I thought, they will laugh at me and

take the Mickey out of me and go, oh, another person with an issue,

and instead they were like, well done, you have taken the first step.

For someone feeling a bit nervous and stubborn because of all the

bullying and possibly the down comments they have had, just do it.

Take that first step, get onto an organisation. People are waiting to

help you. It has been an absolute pleasure to talk to. We could talk

for rages, but we have to go to the weather. -- for ages.

Things are feeling pretty autumnal in the next few days, low pressure

in charge of the weather. It is not a complete wash-out. This picture

was taken this morning on the coast of Norfolk - quite cloudy there. In

Kent, Seabrook, quite a lot of rain over the canal, a great picture. --

a grey picture. There are some clear spells of weather but also some

shallots, even longer spells of rain across southern England and South

Wales too. Showers, but brightness in between. Some could be heavy, the

odd rumble of thunder, and across Scotland, we have lighter winds, so

the showers will be slow moving into the afternoon. Temperatures only

14-15dC, and there could be standing water on the roads. More brisk winds

for Northern Ireland, so the shower was rattling through fairly quickly

here will stop and it is a story of sunny spells and hit and miss

scattered showers across northern England and Wales. In the

south-east, you will see more persistent rain in the afternoon,

with a return to sunshine and showers in the West. It will be one

of those days where you have sunglasses on one minute and a

brolly out the next. Across northern and western parts of the country, we

will continue to see that blustery, showery theme, whereas further east,

there will be light winds and drier conditions to start Saturday. In

this countryside, we will see single figures first thing. Through the day

on Saturday, not too bad to start off, a bit of sunshine in Scotland,

southern and eastern England. Elsewhere, showers through the

morning pushing to the east and becoming more widespread in the

afternoon. Temperatures 15-19dC. Some brighter interludes, but you

are quite likely to see a few passing shower was almost anywhere,

I think. Most of them fade away overnight, with a small ledge of

high pressure, which sets us up for a mainly dry start across central

and eastern areas on Sunday. It is all on the change again through

Sunday, as the next front moves in from the west. Things will turn

wetter and windier later in the day. That unsettled theme continues into

the new working week. Still rather cool and windy, with showers for

Monday and juicy. That is how the weather looks in the UK. I will be

back in about 15 minutes with a detailed look at Hurricane Irma.

Hello, it's Friday, it's ten o'clock. Hurricane Irma continues

tearing through the Caribbean. The British Overseas Territory

of Turks and Caicos in the Caribbean are the latest islands to feel

the force of Hurricane Irma, which is now known to have

killed at least 14 people. Many Brits are stuck

in the Caribbean - travel and communications

in the region are We were in the bath with a mattress

above us. That is how we managed to keep safe and dry. I think a lot of

people were in a similar situation. We will be speaking to people

affected by the strong winds that have flattened parts

of the Caribbean At least six people have died as an

8.2 magnitude earthquake southern Mexico. Suddenly you could feel the

building with quite heavily. You could hear loud cracks in the

concrete. It sounded like a giant wooden branch being broken open

violently. Moving home can be stressful at the best of times, but

new research suggests 250,000 private renters in England are being

forced into debt because they are having to move regularly. We speak

to some of them. Good morning. Now all of the news.

Their Hurricane Irma has left a trail of destruction as it sweeps

across the Caribbean. It is already destroyed almost all buildings on

Barbuda. The Red Cross says an estimated 1.2 million people have

been affected. The British Virgin islands has

declared a state of emergency. Images show buildings destroyed and

debris Cross streets. The governor said there were reports of

casualties and fatalities and help had been requested from the UK.

At least six people have died after an earthquake with a magnitude

The earthquake struck off the Pacific Coast

A tsunami warning has been issued for Mexico and six other

Local authorities say it's the strongest quake to hit

the country since the devastating 1985 tremor that brought down

buildings and killed thousands of people.

Young offenders from ethnic minority backgrounds will become the next

generation of adult criminals unless the justice system

is reformed, according to a review led by the MP David Lammy.

The inquiry makes a series of recommendations -

these include allowing some prosecutions to be deferred,

or even dropped, if suspects get treatment for issues such as drug

Jeremy Cooke from the Black Training And Enterprise Grid told the

programme that we need to have the resources to make sure that people

come out of prison and avoid reoffending.

It's about making sure that prison officers

are given the right training, the right support so they can meet

individuals' needs fully so we don't have people coming out of prison

and reoffending at high rates because they are black or Muslim.

The Nobel prize winner Malala Yousafzai has called

on the leader of Myanamar, Aung San Suu Kyi, to help

the country's Rohingya Muslim minority.

Thousands of Rohingya have fled because of violence.

Malala called for an international response to the violence in Myanmar.

She spoke to the BBC as she prepares to start

A 13-year-old girl who died from a brain aneurysm has helped

eight different people through organ donation - a record number.

Jemima Layzell, from Somerset, died in 2012.

Her parents said she was clever, compassionate and creative -

and would have been "very proud of her legacy".

NHS Blood and Transplant said no other donor had

That is a summary of the latest BBC News. More at 10.30. A lot of you

getting in touch about the conversation we were having before

the news, with two mothers who have only just learned to read, because

they could not read bedtime stories to their children. One tweet says,

brave mums, talking about how hard it was that they could not read

those books because they were illiterate. Do get in touch.

use the hashtag #victorialive and If you text, you will be charged

Two-time US Open winner Venus Williams has missed out

on the final of the tournament after being beaten by

In January Stephens was on her sofa, with a large cast

on her left foot watching the Australian open on television.

But yesterday she was hustling after every single ball to defeat

I am super happy to be in a grand slam final. To do it here, at home,

is even more special. I think this is what every player dreams about.

Unfortunately, fortunately but unfortunately, I had to play Venus

Williams Leeds but having four Americans in the semifinal says a

lot about American tennis and where we are right

Awaiting the final is Madison Keys, who crushed

The pair will both be making their grand slam final debuts.

The last time two Americans made the final was 15 years ago

when Serena Williams beat her sister Venus.

You know, these are the moments growing

To be sitting here as US open finalist, it

She is a close friend of mine, so to be able to play her

in both of our first finals is a really special moment, especially

with everything we have gone through this year.

Ben Stokes reached a new career high, taking six wickets helping

But England then struggled in reply - poor batting put England

in trouble and Joe Root's side closed on 46 for 4.

Fifa has opened disciplinary proceedings against Tottenham

midfielder Dele Alli after he gestured with his middle

finger during England's match against Slovakia on Monday.

Television pictures showed Alli's gesture during the 2-1 World Cup

The 21-year-old said it was a joke with good friend Kyle Walker.

that is all from me, I will be back in 30 minutes.

Hurricane scientists say they've never seen anything

As Hurricane Irma hurtles through the Caribbean,

with two other massive weather systems in its wake,

one meteorologist described it as unparalled.

This is what it looks like on the satellite.

Hurricane Irma has already caused utter devastation

across multiple islands, with Hurricanes Jose

A Royal navy ship is now on its way to help. Ships have already stopped

off to help in Anguilla, carrying engineers and marines who shored up

infrastructure and repaired the airport runway. The ship will spend

a day helping the British Virgin Islands, before relocating to avoid

hurricane Jose. In Cuba, thousands of tourists have been moved to

safety from exposed coastal resorts. In the Bahamas, people are stocking

up and packing up. In Miami, preparations too.

There's a state of emergency in Florida - Hurricane Irma is set

These people are preparing to bunker down - while thousands of others

have been clogging the roads and airports as they flee.

Fergus Thomas is a humanitarian adviser and is working with the

Caribbean disaster emergency management agency. Earlier he spoke

to the BBC from Antigua. It has been a really split story. Mercifully, a

lot of islands were untouched. This is the biggest storm that has hit

the Caribbean since the beginning of storms being recorded. This is

enormous. Unfortunately, as you know, some of the islands in the

northern side have been really badly hit. That is Anguilla and Barbuda,

and as far as we know the British Virgin Islands have also been very

badly hit. There have been communication issues with those

places. We are hoping to get onto the ground tomorrow, to the British

Virgin Islands. The ship was in Anguilla today and delivered the

first assistance. We were the first there to do an assessment. They are

moving to the British Virgin Islands to get a better picture of the

needs. I think we have systems up and running in terms of the

assessment, and I hope we will be able to make their decisions about

how we can best persist in the coming hours and dates.

The UK Government has faced criticism that it has not responded

quickly enough. Let's go to the Foreign Office and Matthew Thomson.

What is being done to help people? Well, so far we know that Theresa

May has pledged ?32 million in relief aid and currently a military

task group is assembling at RAF Brize Norton. A number of C17

Globemaster aircraft there are being readied, we are being told, supplied

with several hundred military personnel, Royal Marines and army

engineers. There will be two Puma helicopters. The first of the planes

will leave this morning. We don't know it's everywhere. As you can

imagine, finding a runway suitable for all of this material is quite

difficult amid the widespread devastation. They will eventually be

joined by the HMS Ocean, the Royal Navy flagship. It is a helicopter

carrier. It has been on Nato exercises in the Mediterranean. We

don't expect it will be there for another ten days, if not two weeks.

As you said, there will be a join up with the Royal Fleet ship that has

been there already, and is now on route to the British Virgin Islands.

Earlier I spoke Carl Joseph, who's a reporter at Antigua Newsroom.

Yesterday he flew he over Barbuda in a helicopter

We did an overview of Barbuda and, by and large, a lot

You saw large patches of water as you went, as we took that

view going to the helipad in Barbuda.

Also, what struck me before we even touched down was the fact

There were no leaves on the trees whatsoever.

The hurricane had completely ravaged not only the

houses and structures but the trees on the island, so the vegetation

All you saw were barks and stems, and everything just

brown, so that wasn't a good sight, even

before you touched down in Barbuda itself.

Is there any food, any shelter, left for the people in

When I went there today, as I journeyed down

that main street towards the wharf...

remember which year, the government had built a strong

complex for fisheries, where they were supposed

That is one of the main things that Barbuda does - it

So they built a very strong complex to house

the lobster, the fish to be exported throughout the Caribbean and the

rest of the world, so a lot of people tried

to make their way down to the fishers' complex.

Today, when I went down there, that is where a lot

of the distribution of food, water, clothes,

So, if folks wanted to get stuff for their children and for

their families, they would have made their way there.

Most of the people were gathered there today.

That is where the main sort of shelter was.

I'm glad you said where the shelter is, because after the hurricane

would have passed and done damage to Barbuda, if they got, like,

simple drizzle or simple rain, they would get wet.

With me now is Sarah Keith Lucas from the BBC weather Centre. Take us

through this. We can see satellite images. That's right, it is a huge

storm, about the same size as France, and it has been an extremely

strong category five hurricane. In the last few hours, it has been

downgraded to category four, but it is still producing winds of 155 mph,

a really serious dog. You can see the size of it, and underneath, lots

of small, low-lying islands dotted around. It is sitting at the moment

over the Turks and Caicos Islands, bringing not just catastrophic,

damaging winds, but also the heavy rainfall and that significant storm

surge, which can be as high as 20 feet above sea level. The islands

are very low-lying some of them, so it is the problem of severe flooding

as well as winds. It is over Turks and Caicos now, but where is it

heading? It is heading north west, and it has been following the focus

quite well, actually. Next, it will be somewhere between Cuba and the

Bahamas, so bringing those devastating winds, heavy rain and a

storm surge across parts of Cuba and the Bahamas, and then pushing up

towards southern Florida over the weekend. When it hits, what happens?

I was talking to your colleague from the BBC weather Centre yesterday,

and he said that normally when it hits the land, it slows down, but

then there could be devastation of a highly populated area. There have

already been evacuations across parts of southern Florida. It will

weaken because the fuel source gets cut off, so it no longer has that

moist, warm water it has been moving over. Once it hits land, it will

weaken a little bit. It is exceptionally strong, so even if it

does weaken, it will still be devastating. It looks most likely to

push north across central parts of Florida, towards Georgia, and then

perhaps even quite a strong storm as it hit Tennessee. The winds will

start to ease as the storm moves to the north, and it will slow down a

bit once it pushes its way further inland. Certainly for Florida, this

could be a devastating storm. Some uncertainty about the track. It

could be further east or west, but at the moment, the most likely

scenario is, it will push its way north through central Florida. We

are concentrating on Hurricane Irma, but there are a couple of other

storms building up in the area. Hurricane Jose could hit the islands

again. Hurricane Katia is moving at about 120 mph. I think it will

follow fairly similar track at first. It will push north west,

getting close to Antigua, by Buda as well, the areas that are just

starting to clear up from Hurricane Irma will be faced with this

hurricane. It probably won't make direct landfall, but whether or not

it does hit the islands, it will move close by, so more strong winds

and heavy rain around, really not what they need when they are

starting the relief effort. Thank you ever so much for coming down to

talk to us. Let's return now to our main story -

that landmark report into the treatment of ethnic

minorities in the justice system. It's calling for an overhaul

of the way young offenders are dealt So what exactly did MP

David Lammy MP's report find? But when it came to drug offences,

ethnic minorities are around 240% more likely to be sent to prison

compared to white offenders. Ethnic minority male prisoners

are more likely to be placed for the North West of England,

Patrick Williams, Senior Lecturer at Manchester Metropolitan University,

Malcolm Richardson, Chairman of the Magistrates' Association,

and Dal Babu, former Chief Superintendent

with the Metropolitan Police. I want to start by speaking to you,

Nazir. Clearly there are big issues of representation within the police

and criminal justice system. Tell us about what you have experienced

yourself. Thank you for having me on. I accept most of what David

Lammy says. Let me start with diversity. There is not one chief

constable from a menorah tea, and in the senior ranks, very few. There

was one enquirer Commissioner out of 42 from a minority. -- minority. In

the justice system, it is very few. The crown prosecution service gets

this right, it has a very diverse workforce in the senior ranks, and I

think that has an impact. If you have a diverse, more understanding

justice system, you will have more understanding of the people who come

before it. I had to get rid of a district judge a few years ago

because he insisted that a person is called Patel should be called to

give witness testimony at a short -- at short notice, and he said, surely

she only works in a shop. And that is the sort of bias that the system

has. You can tackle it through diversity and transparency. I am in

favour of televising proceeding with safeguards. You can see what is

happening and what might not be happening in court rooms, and you

could understand the decisions being taken, and that could build trust,

which is lacking. The trust deficit is one of the big issues in this

report, isn't it? Patrick, do you think that more ethnic minority

people would stand up and plead guilty if there was a greater

representation, because they were trust they would get a fair

sentence, rather than pleading not guilty on going before a jury, as

David Lammy suggests? In my experience, the question of trust is

very important. David Lammy talking about it is not a new question.

Reports before have spoken about it. We recognise that there is a reality

that young people from minorities will recognise that justice has been

stolen from them. It is extremely difficult for them to get a similar

experience of Justice compared to white counterparts. That is an

important point. If you look at a number of reports, all of them are

basically saying the same thing. It is about representation, increasing

trust. So why is it not changing? Rain-mac Nazir's point is important.

If you look at the number of chief constables, there is not a single

one from an ethnic menorah tea. We had one in Kent, Mike Fuller, and he

retired. -- if you look at the number of chief constables... Are

there some coming through the ranks? We need to nail some of the myths.

We were talking about it earlier, about the numbers of ethnic

minorities going into the police. And it is tiny. In the new figures,

a third of people who apply from menorah tees. Chief constables will

say that people aren't coming through, but they said that when I

joined the police 35 years ago. They said, we had a whole generation to

change it, and here we are, a couple of generations on, and we haven't

changed it. We have had a different approach when it comes to gender.

The three most senior positions in policing are occupied by women. A

quarter of the Chief constables in the country are now women. When I

joined, we didn't have any minorities or women, so I think we

need to look at some of the lessons that are there. What really worries

me is that with this report, like all the others that we had, it will

gather dust and we won't actually see any action. I'm just worried now

that people will say, look, do we need another report? We just need to

get on. If you just go back to the recommendations in any of the

reports I've mentioned and say, right, we will implement those

recommendations, we wouldn't be sitting here having this discussion.

Can I make a point? Sorry to jump in, but there is something about the

idea that if we increase the numbers of minority practitioners, this will

solve the problem of bias within the system. If we look at the example of

women who have taken up senior positions within the system, the

experience of women who are offenders within the system is still

really damaging. It has an impact on the woman herself and also her

family. Let's hear from Malcolm, from the magistrates Association.

Firstly, there is a better news story from us in terms of ethnic

range. But there is not trust, as David Lammy were saying. They don't

trust magistrates to be fair. I'm not sure he's necessarily saying

that. He is saying there is a trust deficit where black men and women

and Asian men and women who would plead guilty if they thought they

would get a fair sentence are being put off and that is why they are

going to the jury system. I accept that. What I don't necessarily

accept is that that is because they don't see enough black and other

ethnic minorities on the bench. We have to believe as a society that we

can create a judicial system which delivers fair sentences irrelevant

of the colour, gender, age or, frankly, the class of the person or

the tribunal that is administering it. If we can achieve it with a

jury, we can achieve it with the bench. We in the -- we thoroughly

endorse what David says in the report. There is and enough evidence

of what happens in the magistrates court. We don't know whether bias

comes from the people coming before us from menorah to groups come with

more previous convictions, come charged with more aggravated

offences. We just don't know, and we need to know. I would like to raise

a couple of issues, if I can. And I want to bring Nazir back in. There

are 30 recommendations, a huge report. Talking about sealed

criminal records, the idea that people could go and say before a

judge, I am terribly remorseful, I have moved on and change, therefore

employers potentially wouldn't know they had criminal records. And also

the idea of prosecutions being deferred, so if you did some kind of

community action, some drugs programme, you would get a reduced

sentence. Some people watching would feel uncomfortable with that.

Starting with the first one, I am in favour of ceiling where it is

appropriate. You wouldn't do it where people have care of children,

employment where they are working with vulnerable people. One of the

issues is how to prevent reoffending to help people get on with their

lives and rehabilitate. You have to give them the opportunity to get a

job, and sadly, some employers turn off when they see previous

convictions. Ceiling where judges think it is appropriate to deliver.

-- to see all the previous convictions -- to seal the previous

convictions. Sending someone for treatment rather than prosecuting

could be an option. Sadly, the issue with that was that it was done with

dozens, not hundreds in the past. There are treatment centres for

mental health issues available. I am in favour of deferred prosecutions.

It currently exists, would you believe, for very rich companies,

because they can go to the serious fraud office and reach a deferred

prosecution agreement with them which means they won't be prosecuted

if they pay a huge sum. It won't help those starting on criminal

careers, who have no previous convictions, who may have drug or

mental health problems. If we can treat them, it is absolutely right

to give them the chance. Deferred prosecution doesn't mean they won't

be prosecuted, it means they won't be prosecuted unless they take the

treatment and ultimately stop offended. Classes are very important

factor, and I think we need to look at the deprivation element. In some

ways, whether you are black or white is neither here nor there. If you

are poor, you are more likely to be within the criminal justice system.

One thing that worries me about the report is on the aspect that you can

add two offenders, one black, one white, and you can't have the

potential, if the recommendations are taken on board, and I'm not sure

they will be, we had a lukewarm response from the Government. As

Nazir said, this is about resourcing those additional services, and I

don't think this Government has shown any desire to do that.

I may have interpreted at Romilly, but what we need is support for

those individuals. Class is fundamental. Whether you are black,

white or Asian, if you are poor, you are more likely to be in prison. Can

I make a point? Some of the analysis that David Lammy has undertaken

clearly demonstrates that, like-for-like, black, Asian,

minority ethnic individuals experienced the prison system

differently. My argument is some of the work we have contributed to the

review, the reality that, in London, the vast majority of young black men

are constructed and involved as gang involved. They are then treated as

joint enterprise. They can demonstrate that there are

individual serving custodial sentences because they are black and

because they are constructed as being in gangs. They are not guilty

of offences. Going back to the trust issue, it's extremely difficult to

engage in trust issues when we know the police and criminal justice

systems target and respond to black and Asian minority people

differently. It needs a seismic shift. Thank you for speaking to us.

Let's get more on the earthquake, described by Mexico's President as

the strongest in a century. At least five people have died. A tsunami

warning has been issued. Joining us is Georgina, a journalist that lives

in Mexico City and experienced the earthquake. First of all, tell us

what your experience was. Well, hello everybody, it was pretty

scary. It was a violent earthquake. Bigger than the one in 1995. It was

late at night, so everybody was at home. Suddenly, you can feel this

pool of air, which feels like when you are about to feel the

earthquake, as you know in Mexico City, as we are. People started

going out other houses. Just panicking scenes, but luckily for us

there were no big casualties there. Tell us what the situation is like

outside. Have you been able to go out and see the level of destruction

and devastation that has been caused? In Mexico City, there was

not that kind of devastation. It wasn't the south of the country,

near the Pacific coast. Here in Mexico City, it was just the scare,

the panicked scenes and people on the streets crying. It was a scary

moment. It was violent. But that is all here. We are all just suffering

because of the floods, the rainy days, because of the hurricane. We

have three hurricanes in the Pacific. I think the water now is

our problem. But not earthquakes. How frequent visitor to get

earthquakes in Mexico City? -- How frequent is it to get earthquakes in

massacre city? Depends. Two years ago, you could have won if a month.

But now the last one was three months ago, the big one was three

months ago. It was during the day, midday. So there was not a problem.

We had a prevention culture and we used to make a lot of secure homes.

That was not a problem. But this one was bigger. You still sound

remarkably calm? Sorry? You sound very calm, even with everything you

have experienced? As I said, we are used to this, since 1995, I was

there when that big earthquake that destroyed a city happened. We are

used to feeling big movements. As I said, we have this culture, a

prevention culture. Anyway, if you come to me two hours ago, I was

really scared. Now I am talking to you because I cannot sleep. The

President, on the TV, says that we might have more replicas. So, there

is a social media warning. We are waiting for another movement. But

now we just try to sleep and forget it, and let's see what happens

tomorrow. Georgina, thank you for talking to us. Georgina is a

journalist that lives in Mexico City and experienced that it quick.

Hurricane Irma has left a trail of destruction as it sweeps

The small island of Barbuda is said to be barely habitable. Officials

warn that Saint Martin is almost destroyed and the death toll is

likely to rise. It is a category five hurricane, and currently

heading towards Turks and Caicos. It sustained winds speeds of 180 mph.

One of the islands in its path was the British Virgin Islands. Simon

Cross told us what happened in the force of the storm. In our house,

the major warning was when the skylight was blown off the roof. You

could hear the wind blasting through the upstairs of the house, we

thought maybe the roof was going to go. That was the main indicator,

just to get the hell down stairs and into the basement, into the most

secure part of the building. We had a metal shutters that had been

secured. I had been pulling them around and had a lot of confidence

they were going to protect the building. Next thing you know, they

were ripped off the French doors that were protecting the basement

bedroom down there. Ten minutes later, the other one went. You know,

missiles from trees, debris, it can easily penetrate through there.

Fortunately nothing happened and it held firm. When the eye came, it

gave us time to re-evaluate what we can do in the meantime to get ready

for the second wave. Myself and the father of the family quickly rushed

upstairs and did our best to put some timber over the skylights, and

we just about managed to do that and complete that before the second wave

came, at which point we rushed back downstairs to our original position

in the basement. The wind was scary enough that we ended up huddling. We

still have a small window protected by metal shutters. These mahogany

French doors, fortunately they manage to hold. But the wind is like

nothing I have known in my life. It was absolutely crazy. The British

relief effort is up and running. In the last few minutes Duncan Kennedy

has been speaking to Brize Norton commando Group Captain Tim Jones,

who says three flights will leave today. We are on board an RAF C17

Globemaster. This is going to be the first aircraft that will be heading

to the Caribbean with a -- aid package. It will take about

lunchtime, heading to the Caribbean. It will take eight or nine hours to

get there, delivering all kinds of aid to the region, hoping to get as

far as the British Virgin Islands. We have to decide on the ground how

and where the aid is going to be distributed. The man in charge of

RAF Brize Norton is Group Captain Tim Jones. This is the first

aircraft, what is going to be put on board and when is it going to go? We

have three aircraft going today, and the C17 will be the first. We have

Royal Marine is turning up as we speak. We are bringing water,

medical aid, shelter, engineers. All the things we need to get basic

support in place very quickly, then we can assess and see what further

aid and support we can offer from there. Where are they heading to and

what are they hoping to achieve? The aircraft will go to Barbados first.

That is the plan. Barbados has not been affected by the weather so it

is a great place for us to mount and assess what is going on in the

British Virgin Islands. Our aim will be to get into the British Virgin

Islands if we can, depending on the circumstances on the ground. If it

is physically possible to get there, we will be there, for sure. Then to

get that aid to the point of need, and to the people that needed, as

soon as possible. The first of many flights, how may people are going on

this? This morning we have in the region of 300 going. It is a big

deployment. Very quick, bringing together, hard to Barbados to then

take stock and see how we can get that aid and that support really

effectively distributed. More support is needed. We are ready to

provide it and ready to be there as long as needed. The British have

been criticised for their response by the United Nations and others?

Distance is not a constraint, the constraint is about understanding

the situation on the ground. What we don't want to do is rush in with the

wrong kind of support. It's important we understand the effects,

where is open, where we can get into it safely. That is what we have been

doing for the past 24 hours. Now we are ready to make the right

judgments about where to deliver that aid and we will deliver it as

quickly as possible. Thank you very much indeed. This aircraft we are

standing on will be going in the next few hours, another later in the

afternoon. Wall operational, they're hoping, sometime over the course of

the next 24 hours. Lets talk to some people who have

been affected, Greg Scott flew across with the Antiguan Prime

Minister yesterday. I spoke to the Prime Minister after

the flight and he was emotional about what he had seen. Did it

affect you in a similar way? Yes, it was an emotional flight. We were

both so floored I what we had seen. There was hope that Antigua would

not be badly affected, the reality is different? We were hoping it

would not be too bad. The helicopter with the police, five minutes ahead

of us, the pilot came on and said that it was really bad and we shook

our heads and said, that is not what we wanted to hear. The first thing

that we saw was a resort that was just completely levelled. Most of

the buildings were completely blown apart. We knew that we were in for a

bad scene when we got over the village. Give us a sense of how

large the area is and how long it took you to fly over, and what you

saw. The flight is only about 20 minutes from Antigua in a

helicopter. Initially, looking at the water, it was really

interesting. It is usually a nice dark, rich blue colour. It had all

of this silt bubbling up. It had really stood at the water, even

though it is well over 100 feet deep between the islands. It was weird to

see that. As we approached, the island was brown. It is 80 square

miles, I think, in size. It is very flat. It is covered in scrub brush

and everything. The scrub was just brown, there was no Green left. As

you started flying over, you realised all of the leaves have been

blown off, and that is what I have seen before with hurricanes. We

started seeing the first structures and some of the shipping containers

that people use, they have been rolled from places on the beach

where construction had been going on on a new cottage or something, it

had been rolled across the road and was another 100 metres to the other

side of the road, laying on its side. We approached the village and

we could start seeing the destruction, the rooftops gone,

places where there used to be a house, it was just a pile of rubble

on top of foundations, like a bomb went off. Water everywhere. That was

another thing that was so weird to see. The ground is covered with this

dark brown. It is clear, like dark coloured tea. The whole island has

got water everywhere. I want to bring in Yuri, in the Bahamas. You

are preparing for the storm. What information are you getting about

the effect it might have? I want to send my condolences to the

people in Mexico as well as those in Barbuda. My heart goes out to you.

In the Bahamas, we are doing the regular, run-of-the-mill

preparations for a storm. We have been stocking up on water and canned

goods, things like that. People who don't have storm shutters, they are

getting plywood and barricading the windows and doors, making sure that

no flying debris comes through. Our south-eastern islands, we'd been

evacuating those. We have brought those persons to the central island,

where I am now. In one hurricane, one of the islands was deemed a

disaster area because nothing was standing, and they still haven't

recovered from that. Now we're dealing with a storm stronger than

Hurricane Matthew. The last two days, we have been evacuating those

south-eastern islands. They are the ones closest to the Turks and

Caicos. We're just trying to see how many people we need to bring in. I

want to bring in Barbie, who is joining us from Key West in Florida.

I know you are with your husband. I read earlier today that Key West has

been advised to evacuate or "They are on their own". But you staying

put? A few days ago, we would have left,

but the report is always changing. My husband is a fisherman, so we are

aware of the weather. I have been here for a few years and been

through a few hurricanes, none as bad as this, but we're keeping a

watchful eye on it it looks like it will hit closer to the upper Keys.

Our house is ten feet up. We have three generators summer ?2000 of ice

from our fishing business. We are about a block in. The canal behind

me leads to the ocean, one block away. We will keep a watchful eye.

We are prepared as we can be. We have 90 mph winds here, but they are

more worried about the storm surge. We will keep our fingers crossed and

pray. The other day, when they ordered the evacuation, everybody

hit the road, there were severe gas shortages, hotels were fully booked.

Everybody is in a panic to get out and they don't yet know quite where

it will go. Some people will watch you talking now and maybe thinking,

if you have been told to leave, why on earth would you want to stay?

Part of the reason is, we have five animals will stop that's not always

easy to travel with. We live in a pretty secure house. It is ten feet

up in the air. My husband, he has been here since he was four. We're

not alone. The town is not full, but there are people who wouldn't leave,

no matter what. Will you potentially move if you are told that, actually,

there will be a direct hit or there is further danger? Yes, absolutely.

Right now, it doesn't look that bad. We have been through 100 mph

hurricanes before here. 2005, when Wilma came through. I want to get

Greg's thoughts on this, because I am watching his face as you are

talking, and of course, Greg has witnessed first-hand the devastation

caused by Hurricane Irma in Barbuda. Greg, are you surprised that Barbie

is going to stay? No, I have heard of a lot of people doing that. From

what we have seen in Barbuda, the only structure is left standing are

concrete structures. A couple of those had the typical galvanised

roofing that they have here. I spoke to a person who built one of the

houses that was still standing and I try to find out his methods and

fibre roof stayed on when others didn't. But all the other houses and

buildings were destroyed, what we thought were sturdy houses. -- YAG

roof stayed on. Nothing stops these winds.

The only structures that are intact are completely concrete. Thank you

to speaking -- thank you for speaking to us. Stay safe there in

the Florida Keys. We can speak to Captain Sam Shattuck, deputy chief

of staff or the Royal Navy's Royal Fleet auxiliary. He is on the phone

from Portsmouth. Captain, tell us a little bit about the preparations

you are making right now and what you will be doing to help people

affected by Hurricane Irma. Good morning. Obviously, we have RFA

Mounts Bay in the region. She arrived yesterday, having already

been deployed to the area, prepared for this mission as part of our

commitment to the region. They are already carrying humanitarian aid

stores and they have used some of those in Anguilla already. They are

beginning to progress their work as they move to the British Virgin

Islands. The headquarters at which I work is supporting the ship and

liaising with other agencies required to make all that happened.

What work will you be doing once you arrive? The ship has been engaged in

reconnaissance, because it needs to understand the scope of the

devastation and where it needs to focus its assistance in conjunction

with the islands' management and governance. They are liaising with