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Now on BBC News, Victoria Derbyshire
takes a look back at the exclusive | 0:00:00 | 0:00:04 | |
interviews and films which have
featured on her programme in 2017. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:09 | |
Hello and welcome to our programme.
Over the next 30 minutes we will | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
bring you some exclusive interviews
and original reports that we have | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
broadcast over the last 12 months.
Earlier this year we reported on how | 0:00:25 | 0:00:33 | |
police risk assessment forms were
used against predominantly black | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
music artists. It was used as a risk
assessment -- assessment for certain | 0:00:37 | 0:00:43 | |
concerts but as explained, the
events targeted seem to attract | 0:00:43 | 0:00:48 | |
similar audiences. We don't question
it any longer. We just know they try | 0:00:48 | 0:00:56 | |
to shut us down. There should be a
review of the whole 696 process. So | 0:00:56 | 0:01:05 | |
would you say that form 696 is
racist? Yes. It is a big tidal wave | 0:01:05 | 0:01:18 | |
of... It is all great, it gives us
blessings. Storms hit number one | 0:01:18 | 0:01:30 | |
with his debut album gang signs and
press a few weeks back and broke | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
records including racking up the
most first two extremes for a number | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
one album in chart history.
Attention is so strong on grime | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
right now that when he freestyle of
about the Brits failing to | 0:01:42 | 0:01:47 | |
acknowledge any one in 2016, the
Brits bosses called him in and | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
change their voting structure. Grime
has exploded. It has absolutely | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
exploded. Has been a massive
explosion in consumption and the | 0:01:55 | 0:02:01 | |
retention rate of people and people
searching. Someone like Skip to all | 0:02:01 | 0:02:10 | |
storms the, they get several million
streams per month. Grime is like a | 0:02:10 | 0:02:22 | |
musical representation of London
street culture. Fast tempo, high | 0:02:22 | 0:02:27 | |
energy, attitude, there is culture,
it is fashion and the way we speak. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:32 | |
All rolled into that 140 BPM
electronic dance all. -- a dance | 0:02:32 | 0:02:38 | |
hall. You have to listen to it. You
need to experience it before you | 0:02:38 | 0:02:45 | |
fully understand what it is. One way
to experience grime like all genres | 0:02:45 | 0:02:51 | |
of music is by going to a gig. But
people in the industry say that this | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
form, used in London and known as
the promotion event form 696 is | 0:02:55 | 0:03:06 | |
stopping those experiences and
targeting music like Ryan. DJs have | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
to fill out this form and that can
be things like Garrard, R&B, grime. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:17 | |
Predominantly music enjoyed and
performed by black people. Other | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
genres like pop or rock do not have
to fill out a special risk | 0:03:20 | 0:03:26 | |
assessment form and even though it
is voluntary, those who do have the | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
wheel it out feel obliged. An idea
that you could identify an advance | 0:03:29 | 0:03:35 | |
potential issues. Would you say that
form 696 is racist? As an artist, it | 0:03:35 | 0:03:44 | |
seems to have a following where
there are a lot of incidents. Or of | 0:03:44 | 0:03:49 | |
an artist is seen as encouraging a
certain kind of dynamic with | 0:03:49 | 0:03:55 | |
different groups or gangs coming
together, they are seen as a problem | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
and then identify. I think that is a
way that people see the 696 form, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:04 | |
preventing those things. People get
into habits and they start hearing | 0:04:04 | 0:04:09 | |
certain things and then they think
that this music means that there | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
will be more problems because it
will mean these types of people. The | 0:04:12 | 0:04:18 | |
form is not racist, the former is a
form. I do feel it is. In my | 0:04:18 | 0:04:24 | |
experience, when it is predominantly
black people, without fail, the 696 | 0:04:24 | 0:04:32 | |
form comes out and we have to do it.
I don't have to do the form, I am | 0:04:32 | 0:04:37 | |
performing in Oceana, it it is
middle-class or upper-class white | 0:04:37 | 0:04:47 | |
areas, certain cities, certain areas
don't have to do the form at all. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
That is a form of racism to me. It
is implicitly explicit, if that | 0:04:50 | 0:04:56 | |
makes sends. Your genre is targeted
because you have not written | 0:04:56 | 0:05:03 | |
anything about any other type of
demographic. They can say it is not | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
racist but it is targeted and that
is the equivalent. Let's be clear on | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
how form 696 is to work. You want to
put on a gig featuring storms the. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:19 | |
He is an artist 's. We need detail,
promoter, his real name, date of | 0:05:19 | 0:05:27 | |
birth and address. That is then sent
to the Metropolitan police's Central | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
licensing team and the Met told us
they do research with the | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
information received. They would not
go into detail but it is likely to | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
include criminal background checks.
The Met then grade that event. Those | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
greetings can go from low to medium
to high risk. Again, police would | 0:05:42 | 0:05:47 | |
not tell us what constitutes which
event. Grade is then sent to the | 0:05:47 | 0:05:53 | |
venue and to the local licensing
police unit and according to the | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
Metropolitan police event up to the
venue of a promoter or the local | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
licensing police unit whether to
counsel the event. Last year, a club | 0:06:01 | 0:06:07 | |
in Croydon London hit the headlines
after it was revealed that through | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
form 696, police had told the
promoted to ban a form of Jamaican | 0:06:10 | 0:06:19 | |
music. I received this form and it
said that it is an unacceptable form | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
of music and if we continue to play
yet we would literally risk losing | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
our business. We were told that
Basham and may attract the wrong | 0:06:27 | 0:06:33 | |
type of people. I don't think they
wanted to see too many black people | 0:06:33 | 0:06:38 | |
coming into the town centre. At the
time, police disputed that was the | 0:06:38 | 0:06:43 | |
case and the club has remained open.
Since our report on the | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
controversial form, the Met Police
have announced they will scrap it. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
If you have a story you think we
should cover, get in touch. You can | 0:06:51 | 0:06:56 | |
e-mail are sad [email protected].
Next, we travelled to southern | 0:06:56 | 0:07:06 | |
Hungary where the mayor of the
village there speaks openly about | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
his plans to create a utopia for
white people. We exclusively | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
revealed how members of the far
right in Britain appeared to have | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
taken an interest in the place. This
village on the southern Hungarian | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
plains is just minutes from the
Serbian border. It is where, in | 0:07:21 | 0:07:29 | |
2015, 10,000 migrants a day crossed
into Hungary. The village population | 0:07:29 | 0:07:34 | |
is declining. And homesteads stand
vacant. The mayor he wants to | 0:07:34 | 0:07:39 | |
attract foreign investors but not
just any foreigner. TRANSLATION: We | 0:07:39 | 0:07:47 | |
primarily welcome people from
western Europe. People who would not | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
like to live in a multicultural
society. We would not like to | 0:07:51 | 0:07:56 | |
attract Muslim people to live in the
village. And what if I was black or | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
gay? How would you feel?
TRANSLATION: We have a bye law that | 0:08:00 | 0:08:07 | |
bans homosexual propaganda. We adopt
did a few weeks ago. As for your | 0:08:07 | 0:08:12 | |
other question, think about this.
Europe is small. It can not taking | 0:08:12 | 0:08:17 | |
billions of people from Africa and
South Asia. But there is a | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
population boom. This will lead to a
disappearance of Europe. I would | 0:08:20 | 0:08:26 | |
like Europe to belong to Europeans.
Asia to belong to Asians and Africa | 0:08:26 | 0:08:31 | |
to Africans. As simple as that. He
is so serious he has introduced | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
local legislation banning public
displays of affection by gay people, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
the wearing of Islamic dress and he
wants to ban the building of | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
mosques. And his views are being
pushed by a British organisation | 0:08:43 | 0:08:49 | |
called nights Templer International.
The former British National party | 0:08:49 | 0:08:55 | |
and leader, Nick Griffin, is a
member, and the group is advertising | 0:08:55 | 0:09:00 | |
smallholdings for sale in the
Hungarian village. Hungary has | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
already seen by more and more West
Europeans as a place of refuge, a | 0:09:03 | 0:09:10 | |
place to get away from the hell that
is about to break loose in Western | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
Europe. There two Muslims in the
town. One agreed to speak to us but | 0:09:14 | 0:09:19 | |
at the last moment pulled out. He
did not want to attract attention to | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
themselves. They spoke of their
fears to Hungarian media in the past | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
but other villagers reject the laws
are huge concern. However, they are | 0:09:28 | 0:09:33 | |
the talk of the village pub.
TRANSLATION: Important issues like | 0:09:33 | 0:09:38 | |
this should be regulated by the
National government, not local | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
legislation. >> If they take off
their veil, I will accept them. It | 0:09:41 | 0:09:49 | |
does not even matter if they are
black. Should become Hungarian | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
citizens, even if they are Muslims
or whatever. I am trying to create | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
-- are you trying to create a white
supremacist village? I don't use | 0:09:55 | 0:10:02 | |
this word white because we are white
European Christian population, we | 0:10:02 | 0:10:08 | |
want to stay this, like this. If you
want to watch all of our reports in | 0:10:08 | 0:10:17 | |
full you can do so on our website.
Successive governments in the UK | 0:10:17 | 0:10:24 | |
have all made similar promises about
wanting to make Britain more of a | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
place where it is easier for people
from disadvantaged backgrounds to | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
get ahead. As our reporter, who was
taken into care as a boy and grew up | 0:10:31 | 0:10:38 | |
in three different foster homes
before his 18th birthday, explains, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
he says there is little support in
Britain for those with less | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
fortunate start in life. I left her
when I was 18 and I moved into a | 0:10:46 | 0:10:51 | |
council flat on the street. I am
quite nervous because I have not | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
returned here for five years. It
brings back some emotion. This is | 0:10:55 | 0:11:01 | |
the flat I moved into when I left
care and had to fend for myself as | 0:11:01 | 0:11:06 | |
an adult. I can see the flat. It is
a little crazy. Bosch. I am | 0:11:06 | 0:11:15 | |
wondering what the heck? I had to
live independently, by myself, with | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
our family as a care leaver. The
most difficult weekend of my live | 0:11:19 | 0:11:24 | |
was when I had 37p to live off for a
weekend and all I could afford was | 0:11:24 | 0:11:33 | |
an onion and I had a little tuna and
I made faster tuna. A lift by | 0:11:33 | 0:11:38 | |
myself. -- and lived by myself. I
know I was not alone in finding it | 0:11:38 | 0:11:50 | |
difficult to leave care, especially
when it comes to money. Research | 0:11:50 | 0:11:55 | |
suggests that well over half of care
leavers struggle to pay bills and | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
avoid debt. That is why as of this
month, some councils have decided to | 0:11:59 | 0:12:07 | |
stop charging care leavers council
tax until they are older. In | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
reality, only a small number of care
leavers will benefit. The councils | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
who are doing this hope it will
leave the sudden transition into | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
adult would. -- ease the sudden
transition. Can I have a handshake? | 0:12:19 | 0:12:30 | |
Was taken into care on Christmas Eve
when she was five. Growing up, she | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
was moved 15 times all over the
country. Tell me about when you left | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
care. They went that is it, we no
longer need to contact you. You have | 0:12:37 | 0:12:44 | |
hit an age where you can live
independently. Off you go into the | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
world. There was a lot of
preparation for that. O, my bank. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:53 | |
Dina what it is? We regret that you
couldn't make payment. Could I read | 0:12:53 | 0:13:00 | |
that? Do you mind? How much are you
in debt? About £2000 across | 0:13:00 | 0:13:07 | |
different companies. Council bill is
the worst one. It goes out of | 0:13:07 | 0:13:13 | |
control. Does it feel like home? | 0:13:13 | 0:13:24 | |
This is my place that nobody can
take away from me. Dodi was taken | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
into care when she was eight and
left when she was 20. She had a | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
happy foster home. She was upset to
leave but says she was also excited | 0:13:38 | 0:13:44 | |
at the prospect of being
independent. Had to cope with the | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
pressure of being an adult rent,
bills, council tax? Denial. A lot of | 0:13:47 | 0:13:53 | |
deny all. Every person has to deal
with it. Some councils have decided | 0:13:53 | 0:13:59 | |
to scrap council tax. For young care
leavers. Do you think this is a | 0:13:59 | 0:14:06 | |
measure that will help was to mark
yeah. I do. It gives them the chance | 0:14:06 | 0:14:14 | |
to adjust. Some may say why should
care leavers benefit from this but | 0:14:14 | 0:14:19 | |
not other vulnerable people in
society. Other people who come from | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
a normal family have their parents
to borrow 20 quid from and other | 0:14:23 | 0:14:31 | |
people don't. Often I have literally
had nothing in the cupboard because | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
I had no money left to purchase
food. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:42 | |
We took two celebrities with
opposing views out on a blind date. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:50 | |
The series showed that, in an
increasingly polarised world, they | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
can be new ones and even consensus
amongst people on opposite sides of | 0:14:53 | 0:15:01 | |
the spectrum. We shined the
silverware, polished glasses and | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
invited them to lunch. An election
blind date. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:12 | |
I interpret feminism as saying quite
simply women can do what they want | 0:15:17 | 0:15:22 | |
to do and not being told what to do
by a man. That is simplistic. It is | 0:15:22 | 0:15:29 | |
not a matter of just being uniform,
he have to be smart. You go from | 0:15:29 | 0:15:37 | |
this wonderful career start to make
money at your level. Of course, they | 0:15:37 | 0:15:44 | |
don't they go into their businesses.
These people are entrepreneurs and | 0:15:44 | 0:15:50 | |
they are going forward, they come
from around Europe. This is one of | 0:15:50 | 0:15:55 | |
the reasons I Remainer. Can I just
slightly parody you and say I am a | 0:15:55 | 0:16:07 | |
Remainer because I want all those
eastern European girls to take their | 0:16:07 | 0:16:14 | |
clothes off in my club. Want them to
come and earn money my club. The | 0:16:14 | 0:16:20 | |
English are more than welcome also.
I have no reason to think you are | 0:16:20 | 0:16:26 | |
not either than sincere. But the
simplistic notion that feminism is | 0:16:26 | 0:16:33 | |
about what women want to do because
the whole point about women's | 0:16:33 | 0:16:41 | |
choices is that they are deeply
determined by your whole range of... | 0:16:41 | 0:16:47 | |
That do not have a free choice. It
would be interesting to talk to some | 0:16:47 | 0:16:58 | |
of your girls and one day perhaps I
will get a chance. Isn't it just | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
that they are too old? Why do you
think they would talk to you? Would | 0:17:03 | 0:17:10 | |
you go up to somebody in the street
and say I am wondering why it you | 0:17:10 | 0:17:15 | |
are painting, why are you driving
the truck? Maybe it can set | 0:17:15 | 0:17:20 | |
something off. You are quite a
pretty lady. Get that on camera! | 0:17:20 | 0:17:37 | |
Call me inconsistent. Maybe you are
not photogenic but you have very | 0:17:37 | 0:17:43 | |
sparkly eyes. I am what I am. I have
had enough major run-ins with people | 0:17:43 | 0:17:54 | |
who are really saying to me, look,
darling, you are grey haired, why | 0:17:54 | 0:18:01 | |
can't you die yet? Why it can't you
do something about your teeth? | 0:18:01 | 0:18:07 | |
Please make yourself look prettier
for us. I do not know that world. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:12 | |
That world where people would say
that to you. But don't you think you | 0:18:12 | 0:18:17 | |
underpinned it. It is a very
different world for a man with grey | 0:18:17 | 0:18:23 | |
hair than for a woman... What you
saying? You look at gloriously | 0:18:23 | 0:18:31 | |
interesting... I am hunky... If you
are a woman with grey hair, you are | 0:18:31 | 0:18:41 | |
constantly told that you should do
something about yourself. Now, you | 0:18:41 | 0:18:47 | |
might say that has nothing to do
with it but I would say you have to | 0:18:47 | 0:18:53 | |
look to what underpins and justifies
that particular way of judging | 0:18:53 | 0:18:58 | |
women. What I think underpins it is
in your girls in your clubs who | 0:18:58 | 0:19:07 | |
actually really embed or represent,
if you like, of you of the female | 0:19:07 | 0:19:15 | |
beauty. I have to say no, Mary. I
will answer it for me and the men in | 0:19:15 | 0:19:25 | |
general as best I can. Sadly, Hugh
have bumped into summer with people. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
The men I know they will judge
between women, small boots, big | 0:19:29 | 0:19:37 | |
boots, blonde hair, but the women do
the same to the men. I like the guy | 0:19:37 | 0:19:43 | |
with tattoos, with no hair, look at
me, I76, two young babies, they are | 0:19:43 | 0:19:52 | |
gorgeous, a beautiful wife at 35...
34, I hope I got that right. And I | 0:19:52 | 0:20:00 | |
get judge, she's in it the money.
Rubbish. We are not talking about a | 0:20:00 | 0:20:08 | |
world in which nobody judges anybody
else but you tend to stop you | 0:20:08 | 0:20:15 | |
analysis too quickly. How does Power
influence, money, aspiration, relate | 0:20:15 | 0:20:23 | |
to those ideas of judgement.
Somebody who has grown up looking at | 0:20:23 | 0:20:29 | |
the television, at wrinkly old
guys... I am taking this personal... | 0:20:29 | 0:20:37 | |
I quite like wrinkly old guys, but
looking at wrinkly old guys and I | 0:20:37 | 0:20:45 | |
looking at young women with blonde
hair. One of the things women over | 0:20:45 | 0:20:52 | |
50 said is that they feel invisible.
We judge everybody. We do it with | 0:20:52 | 0:20:58 | |
cars. It is no good saying that. I
bet you judge my outfits. I just | 0:20:58 | 0:21:05 | |
want to say... Would love to teach
you, Peter, and would like to see a | 0:21:05 | 0:21:16 | |
and SH to write and have a good
Barney. I like all of that. I know | 0:21:16 | 0:21:23 | |
more than you. I have lived longer,
I have had more experience. Your | 0:21:23 | 0:21:30 | |
experience is quite limited. Mine is
massive. You have no idea how | 0:21:30 | 0:21:37 | |
limited my experiences are. At talk
about extending my experiences. I | 0:21:37 | 0:21:44 | |
interested to talk to some of the
women that work in a club and you | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
say, why would they want to speak to
you? I didn't say that at all. You | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
can watch the full blind date on our
website. Finally, we had a number of | 0:21:52 | 0:22:05 | |
a list as Jonas on the programme.
From the world of sports, politics | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
and showbiz. There sat for playing
Samantha in six of the city, she is | 0:22:09 | 0:22:16 | |
campaigning for better roles for
older women saying ageism is rife in | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
the acting world. It is such a
diverse number of roles but you say, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:26 | |
actually now, that the best roles
are we in Europe. Why is it that? I | 0:22:26 | 0:22:33 | |
think Europe knows what to do with
women of a certain age. More than | 0:22:33 | 0:22:38 | |
America does. And part of it is
because America is a younger country | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
and is used oriented. I have been
lucky enough to have been born here. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:48 | |
My family is all here so when I come
over and work, I feel the reason is | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
that what is there and I have a lot
of friends in the UK so it has been | 0:22:53 | 0:22:58 | |
a really buy a second home for the
past almost 20 years now and I have | 0:22:58 | 0:23:04 | |
so happy to be here. I love doing
theatre. It is part of people 's | 0:23:04 | 0:23:09 | |
lives here not like a spectacle as
it is in America. It is just what | 0:23:09 | 0:23:15 | |
you do, go to the theatre. I do not
do musicals. I do straight theatre | 0:23:15 | 0:23:20 | |
and mostly classical and there are
an huge roles of air. The companies | 0:23:20 | 0:23:30 | |
are the best in the world. It does
not make sense that a whole | 0:23:30 | 0:23:35 | |
continent can find roles for older
women and another continent cannot. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:41 | |
Part of it is there are just fewer
roles. I not ready to play someone | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
who is grotesque, either from being
thought of as just a very, very old | 0:23:45 | 0:23:54 | |
woman at 60, 61, which I am not, and
I do not feel that way. There are | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
very few roles to begin with and
those roles are either into | 0:23:58 | 0:24:03 | |
categories - someone wanting to be
young in a desperate way or someone | 0:24:03 | 0:24:08 | |
giving up that is why I do not
depend on Hollywood for jobs any | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
more and that is why a became an
executive producer. I found a | 0:24:11 | 0:24:16 | |
property almost ten years ago and I
thought, this is a character I have | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
never seen on screen. A woman who is
not a victim, who is not dying of | 0:24:20 | 0:24:27 | |
cancer, but is at a point in her
life saying, why now? My husband and | 0:24:27 | 0:24:36 | |
I have disconnected, the children
have left but I have 30 - 40 more | 0:24:36 | 0:24:42 | |
years of life ahead and who am I?
Those are questions that women my | 0:24:42 | 0:24:47 | |
age - a huge audience out there -
which I want to say to networks, you | 0:24:47 | 0:24:53 | |
are missing a big opportunity. We
need entertainment. We really do and | 0:24:53 | 0:24:59 | |
want to provide that. Thank you for
watching. We are back to life on | 0:24:59 | 0:25:04 | |
January eight. In the meantime you
can | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 |