06/02/2018 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello.

It's Tuesday, it's 9 o'clock,

I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

welcome to the programme.

Campaigners say it will be a fitting

tribute. We talk to an MP that say

women have a duty to vote, to meet a

reality TV star that says she has

never voted in an election.

If Donald Trump can be president,

anything is possible.

Christ, that's true.

It's ghastly, isn't it.

So Olivia off Love

Island has a chance.

Watch that full report at 9:15.

Also on the programme,

a judge will rule later today

on a request by the WikiLeaks

founder, Julian Assange,

to drop a warrant for his arrest.

He's been living in the Ecuadorian

Embassy in London for more

than five years to avoid

deportation to Sweden.

I've been detained now

without charge in this country,

the United Kingdom,

for five and a half years.

That's five and a half years I've

had great difficulty seeing my

family, and seeing my children.

We'll hear from a Julian Assange

supporter and critic before 10am.

And a court in Liverpool has been

told there's been a further decline

in the condition of Alfie Evans,

the baby at the centre

of a legal battle about

the withdrawal of life support.

We'll speak to his father who's

fighting against the decision.

Hello.

Welcome to the programme,

we're live until 11.

Throughout the morning,

the latest breaking news

and developing stories.

A little later in the programme,

we'll hear from Katie Price.

She's talking to MPs today

to try and make online

abuse a specific crime.

As you'll know, her son Harvey has

been subject to some really horrible

abuse through most of his life.

And we'll hear from Lauri Love

the alleged computer hacker accused

of stealing info from US

government computer systems.

He's won his legal battle

against extradition to America.

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Plus, can I saw a very big thank

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judges who have nominated us

for five journalism awards -

best programme, best news coverage,

best presenter, best interview

and best young talent for our

reporter Ashley John Baptiste.

The competition is really tough, so

don't hold your breath...

Our top story today.

The value of some of the world's

biggest companies have fallen

as global stock markets

take a tumble.

The US stock market index

the Dow Jones has fallen

by over 1000 points -

that's its biggest

one-day fall in history.

This morning, the FTSE 100 has

crashed by more than 230 points -

its lowest level since late 2016.

Our North America

business correspondent

Yogita Limaye has more.

This trading floor saw its worst day

since the financial crisis.

After months of hitting record

highs, US stocks went into freefall.

The trigger - wage growth

has been faster than expected,

sparking fears that there could be

a rise in interest rates.

Certainly not what

this man would have wanted

on his first day in office.

Jerome Powell took over as the chair

of the American central bank,

the body that makes decisions

about interest rates.

And it was bad news

for this man, too.

President Trump has repeatedly taken

credit for the massive gains made

by financial markets

in the past year.

But addressing factory workers

in Ohio as stocks plunged,

this was one record

he chose not to speak about.

The White House has said

the president is focused

on long-term fundamentals,

which remain exceptionally strong.

And many on Wall Street say

there's no need for alarm just yet.

People are taking profits

after an historic climb,

it's very quiet in there,

very orderly, no panic.

So I honestly don't think

there's much to panic about.

That could spell relief for people

in the US and around the world.

But with a slide like this, it's

hard to predict when it might end.

Yogita Limaye, BBC News, New York.

Simon Jack is here. Is this a crash

or a correction?

A correction is

when it goes down 10% from its peak.

To remind everyone, the stock market

has been on a hell of a tear over

the last few years. Once in a while,

some people think it is healthy to

take a bit of air out of the tyres,

some people take profits, it comes

back to a sustainable level. At the

moment, this is a correction, not a

crash. The reason for that is the

global economy is strong. It is rare

to get a full-blown crash like the

1987 Black Monday, when you have the

underlining fundamentals. People

have savings there, if you have a

pension, you have these shares which

have fallen sharply, so you will

take a small hit on this. Usually on

pension savings, do do it over the

long term, and on the long term, the

trend has been up. Correction, not

crash, I would say.

In an ideal

scenario, what are we looking

forward to happen next?

We will see,

if you are falling down a cliff

face, can you put a hand on and

pours the stocks? Coming down again

after a big drop yesterday, falling

another 230 points on the UK 100

index, and it bounced back a bit. We

will see if this holds. At the

moment, it looks like it is holding.

I would say, not time to panic at

the moment, and for some people,

your local stockbroker if you do

this sort of thing, will phone you

up and say it is a massive buying

opportunity, wait for the volatility

to die down.

How many of us have

local stockbroker 's??

Lots of us

have independent financial advisers!

A lot of people will be sitting on

their hands, waiting for things to

calm down. We had a weird thing,

interest rates around the world are

at historic lows. These are more

akin to a recession or a depression

at these record lows. Yet, we have a

global economy growing nearly 4%.

There is a mismatch. A lot of people

think that what we are going to get

as the global economy grows is a

much faster set of interest rate

rises, and that makes people...

Central banks around the world, we

have been on free money, monetary

drugs, wean us off them. When you

people off that, you get one of

these.

OK. He is our business

editor.

Annita is in the BBC

Newsroom with a summary

of the rest of the days news.

Hello.

Thanks, Victoria. Good morning,

everyone.

The Conservative MP and leading

Remain campaigner, Anna Soubry,

has called on Theresa May to "sling

out" what she called "hard

Brexiteers" in the party.

In an interview for the BBC,

she said that the frontbench

was "in hock" to 35 ideological

Leave supporters.

She insisted she would not stay

in a party taken over by people

like Jacob Rees-Mogg

and Boris Johnson.

Campaigners are proposing women

who were jailed while fighting

for the right to vote,

should be pardoned.

Scottish Conservative leader

Ruth Davidson has joined

with the Fawcett Society

campaign group and relatives

of the suffragettes in calling

for convictions to be overturned.

It comes on the 100th anniversary of

some women getting the vote

in the UK.

Relatives of the victims of the 1982

IRA Hyde Park bombing have been

granted legal aid for a civil action

against a suspect.

A prosecution case against

the convicted IRA member,

John Downey, collapsed

at the Old Bailey four years ago

because he had a so-called

"on the run" letter telling him

he was no longer a wanted man.

Frankie McCamley has more.

July, 1982, four soldiers

of the Royal Household Cavalry died

and dozens were injured

when an IRA car bomb was detonated

outside Buckingham Palace.

More than 30 years later,

John Downey was charged

with their murder, but the case

collapsed after it had

emerged he'd been given

a so called 'on the run' letter,

a guarantee he could

not be prosecuted.

The 66-year-old denied

murder and conspiring

to cause the explosion.

The then Prime Minister David

Cameron said Mr Downey should never

have been given such assurances,

describing it as

"a dreadful mistake".

Now, the legal aid agency has

decided to provide funding

to the families of the victims,

which will allow them

to begin civil action.

The move has been welcomed

by some, who hope this could be

an opportunity to solve one

of the most significant IRA bombings

during the decades of that became

known as The Troubles.

Frankie McCamley, BBC News.

A judge will rule later today

on a request by the WikiLeaks

founder, Julian Assange,

to drop a warrant for his arrest.

He's been living in the Ecuadorian

Embassy in London for more

than five years to avoid

deportation to Sweden.

Julian Assange believes he will be

extradited to the United States

if he leaves the embassy,

for questioning about

the activities of WikiLeaks.

Public Health England says it wants

e-cigarettes

to be given on the NHS

because they're an effective way

to help smokers quit.

Public Health England says vaping

poses only a small fraction

of the risk of smoking tobacco.

Our health reporter

Michelle Roberts has more.

the Department for Transport says it

is investing £23 billion on road

schemes that will help to cut

congestion.

One of Love Island's female stars

says she has been offered

"substantially" less pay

for the same jobs as the male

contestants since leaving

the ITV show.

Olivia Attwood has told this

programme this included jobs

with her boyfriend Chris Hughes.

She said when her management

approached the clients to ask

why, they immediately

matched the payments.

That's a summary of

the latest BBC News. more at 9:30.

Coral on Facebook says, "We deserve

the same pay as man when we do the

same job with the same hours. " Mark

on Facebook says, "Women this, women

that, who cares who pays what? Stop

acting like it." Thank you. You can

use Facebook, or or Twitter. Sarah

is here with the sport.

Chelsea manager Antonio Conte

is under pressure after another

defeat, how much danger

is there that he may lose his job?

Increasing pressure on Antonio

Conte, his side lost 4-1 away at

Watford last night.

His side were coming off the back of

that 3-0 home loss to Bournemouth

last week. They are fourth in the

table, a point clear of Tottenham

after losing last night will stop it

is for the all-important Champions

League places. Nerves got to them.

Tui Bakayoko was sent off after a

second yellow card. Troy Deeney

scored the penalty. Eden Hazard

equalised eight minutes before time

before Watford went on to score

another three goals. A big first

home win for the new boss, Javi

Gracia. Chelsea looked poor

throughout the night, but Antonio

Conte was insistent he is

definitely, definitely, definitely

not worried about his job.

I'm not

worried. I'm not worried. I'm not

worried about my job. I work every

day, and I give 120%, OK? If this is

enough, it's OK. Otherwise, the club

can take a different decision, but

I'm not worried. Every day, every

day, every West conference you ask

me, "Are you worried about your

dog?" No, I'm not worried.

We get

the message, but there has been

eagle between Antonio Conte and the

Chelsea hierarchy, he has repeatedly

complained through the campaign

about the lack of import towards the

club's recruitment strategies. He

has complained about Alvaro Morata's

injury, so he does not have an out

and out striker, Olivier Giroud was

on the bench. A strained

relationship at Chelsea.

And Formula one are replacing

Grid Girls with Grid Kids.

Saw the fall out and reaction last

week, the differing views of the

promotion of Grid girls that Formula

1 have abolished. They are now going

to have read kids, because of the

long-standing practice of female

models that they used before races.

It is at odds with today's

standards. They will use kids on the

opening race of the next season. The

next season, next month.

More from Sarah through the morning.

It's 100 years since some women

were allowed to cast

their vote in an election.

This morning Theresa May has hailed

the "heroism" of the suffragettes

who campaigned for women to get

the vote through daring stunts,

law breaking and non-violent protest

which saw some women being arrested,

imprisoned and even

losing their lives.

100 years on and so much has changed

- we'll talk to a 102 year

old about he significant events

in her life later in the programme.

When it comes to voting

there is virtually no gender gap -

with roughly the same amount

of men voting as women.

Two monthly anniversary, we thought

we would revive our blind date

series.

And take two

women out on a date -

one who'd never voted in an elected

- and one who thinks

all women should vote.

Olivia Attwood is a reality tar

who's best known for her appearance

in last summer's Love Island

and Anna Soubry

is a Conservative MP.

Here's how they got on.

It's 100 years since

women got the vote.

So we took two women with very

different views on a date.

One who's never voted

in an election.

It's like, I think of Parliament,

I think of like a room with men

and women, but a lot

of like old men falling asleep.

And one who thinks women

have a duty to vote.

I think everybody should vote.

Women worked so damn hard,

it was such a serious trouble.

-- serious struggle.

Will sparks fly?

I mean, they're just quite simple,

aren't they, some of them?

What, men?

Yeah.

They are, yes!

Will things hot up?

And will the political get personal?

You know, we have experienced

since leaving Love Island

of doing different jobs,

and we've had to do some digging

to find out, you know,

that the boys were getting paid

substantially more than us

for the exact same job.

No!

Yeah, for the exact same outcome.

No!

Sam, are you rolling?

I'm rolling on the wide, yeah.

Hi, I'm Olivia Attwood.

I'm 26 and I am a TV personality.

You probably saw me appear

in the last series of Love Island.

I've been on quite a few dates

in my time, but this will be

a different experience!

I don't have an idea

who I'm meeting.

I believe it's an MP.

I've never voted in a party vote,

which I feel really ashamed of,

especially we're celebrating the 100

years of women having the vote.

I don't actually get

nervous before dates,

but I'm a little bit nervous before

this date, actually, weirdly.

A little bit nervous.

It's out of my comfort

zone, just a touch.

My name is Anna Soubry,

and I'm the member of Parliament

for Broxtowe in Nottinghamshire.

I'm looking forward to today.

I have no idea who I shall

be having lunch with.

So that in itself is going to be

quite interesting, and hopefully

we will have a great

conversation as well.

I think there's an argument that

says it was such a long struggle

for women to get the vote,

we kind of should

get out and use it.

Well, luckily, I'm feeling quite

hungry, so I'm certainly

looking forward to my food.

But actually, more importantly,

I want to know who the hell

I'm having it with!

Hello.

Hi.

Lovely to meet you.

Hi, I'm Anna.

Olivia.

Lovely to meet you, too.

How are you?

I'm all right, darling, how you?

Very well, thank you.

You have to tell me

all about yourself.

I am Olivia, and I was on a show

called Love Island.

I don't know if you're

familiar with it.

Ah, yes.

Did you watch?

I can't imagine you did.

Well, no, I do watch

certain programmes,

but Love Island's escaped me.

And what you do?

I think I do know, but...

So, my name's Anna, and I'm

a member of Parliament.

Yes.

And I was elected in 2010,

and I did other stuff as well.

And I decided to get

involved again in politics,

and I did that, and I still do.

Lovely, thank you.

Do you know what you're having?

What are you having?

I'm going to have a chicken

Caesar salad, I think.

Right.

I'm having fish and chips.

I was looking at it,

but I went with the salad.

You can have some of my chips!

I live in Woking, so where...?

I know it's heavily Conservative,

and I believe it's John...?

It's not John Redwood,

is it, Woking?

I think so.

That rings a bell.

Jonathan Lord.

Oh, is it?

You see, the fact that you actually

know even part of your MP's name...

Yeah.

Is something.

So you know masses of stuff.

I have to admit, what I know

is my dad is heavily into politics,

so anything that I know,

I've just sort of absorbed,

like background noise,

and some things I've taken

in and some things I haven't.

So your dad is

interested in politics?

Very.

Is he a member of a political party?

He's Liberal, but he's not a member.

And he's German, so

was very anti-Brexit.

Did you vote in the referendum?

For Brexit?

Yes.

But I've never voted

in a party vote.

For the reason that I just

think I've never known

what I wanted to vote for.

But in terms of Brexit,

I found that one relatively...

For me, it was quite easy.

And you voted for Remain?

Yes.

And was that because your father's

German and so you understood

what the whole EU thing was about?

Just that, and I was working

as a model all over Europe,

I was worried what it

would mean for that.

You see, I can understand why,

if you live in an area

where you feel that your vote

won't make much difference,

people don't vote, and it is really

interesting that you voted

in the referendum, because you knew

that your vote would count just

like anybody else's.

I've told my dad quite a few times

that I voted, because...

It makes him crazy, but at the same

time, if there was a

vote tomorrow, I probably again

would not know what I wanted to vote

for.

So that's the issue, isn't it?

I mean, I think

everybody should vote.

Women worked so damn hard,

it was such a serious struggle, for

ever.

People didn't have

a proper democracy.

No.

And so, when they got

the opportunity, so when Mandela was

elected president of South Africa,

and they got the opportunity at last

to vote, they were queueing for

hours and hours because it was so

precious that they finally

could have their say.

And that makes me feel,

to think that I haven't used

the vote when so many people

would give so much for one,

makes me feel not great.

But then I think there is just,

like you say, one thing coming

from the Conservatives,

and there is so much

noise, and so much,

you

know, information,

but I think it is harder

for young people if you

are

not from that sort of world to break

down what does each party do for me.

-- and I think it is one thing,

coming from a Conservative area.

Do you know what I mean?

No, I understand that,

and I think that's

the role of politicians,

is to cut through the noise.

From your experience,

did a lot of your

friends not vote in the referendum?

Yeah.

All the ones who did would just vote

for who their parents

voted for.

And those that didn't vote,

why would they vote?

Because they said they

didn't know who they

wanted to vote for,

what their reasons were.

They wouldn't know who to vote for.

Right, when you did Love Island,

are you pleased you did

it?

Yes.

I am.

Half a whale, look.

That looks amazing.

That looks really good.

You've made me really

jealous, actually.

You can have some, darling.

Look at me with my salad.

I've brought some fries as well.

Actually, yeah.

Thank you very much.

So it was worth it, then?

I think so, yeah.

I've had like amazing

opportunities, for example

this, that I wouldn't...

It's opened doors for me that

wouldn't have opened beforehand.

So it is amazing.

Do you ever feel, I'm only doing

this thing or I've only been

asked to do this thing

because I'm a beautiful young woman?

It's such a debate,

for example the debate

going on now about taking

the

girls away from the darts.

I mean, it's like...

People say, are you a feminist?

I don't know where I stand on it

for the reason that I believe

in equal rights for men and women,

and I believe that we are equals,

but I also believe there's something

going the other way of isn't it up

to the individual girl

of what makes her feel

empowered, not someone

to

tell her that she is being degraded

by wearing sparkly dress and holding

up the dart, if she

wants to do that...

I think on the darts thing,

I agree with you, I don't think it's

for other people to tell a woman,

you should not do this, and you

should do that.

I agree with you completely.

But I wonder if actually it isn't

quite a bit of a sad thing

that people don't see themselves,

actually, the only reason I'm here

with this board is pretty

much so that men can

kind of get off on it.

Yeah.

And I totally get that opinion.

I mean, they are just quite simple,

aren't they, some of them?

What, men?

Yeah.

They are, yes!

Obviously I'm guessing you count

yourself as a feminist.

And to you, what does that mean?

Well, I agree, it is about

that we are equal, we should

be paid equally, we should be

treated just like a man would be

treated and all the rest of it.

But I think that

we're a long way from

being where I thought

we might be by 2018.

Yeah.

My mum was a radiographer.

She told me, she said,

when I started off, I wasn't paid

the same as a man

doing the same job.

Yeah.

But that still goes on now.

And I've had first-hand

experience of it.

Go on.

We have experienced

since leaving Love

Island of doing different jobs,

and we've had to do some

digging to find out,

you know, that the boys were

getting paid substantially more

than us for the exact same job.

No!

For the exact same outcome.

No!

And I have a female

management team, so

you can imagine, who are very strong

women, so we are a very strong

female force in my camp.

When obviously my manager said,

they've all discussed the fee,

what's going on, what is the

reason?

There was a lot of panic

from their end, and straightaway it

was, please don't tell anyone,

we will match the money.

So the money was always there.

That is shocking!

The first thing that my manager said

was, in this climate, is that

really, you really want to, like,

play with that subject?

And they straightaway

said, we'll make it

right.

So, why do you think we can do

for the sort of post-school ages,

sort of people my age

and a bit younger?

To get them voting?

I think it's the issues,

I think it's the

language we use.

And I think it's making

it relevant to people.

Yeah.

And actually doing stuff

that makes a difference.

Yeah.

I was thinking of the

power of social media.

The amount of, say,

following I have now,

I am considered like

an

influencer.

So I can influence how many

thousands of people to, you

know, order a certain dress

because I'm wearing it.

Like how great would it be

if other people from my

background, who all these

young people follow,

could be more involved

in a

way that, they're looking on our

pages for whatever they're looking

for, then it's also, we're talking

about politics and who we're going

to vote for.

Because I think that would make

a massive difference.

I think it would.

I mean, it would be difficult.

It would.

Because if you make

a choice, you might get an

awful lot of...

Backlash.

Yeah.

Yes, that's why people

shy away from it.

And you must know how

appalling that abuse can be.

I've had two people

who gone to prison.

Well, one went to prison

and the other one got a suspended...

Sorry.

For trolling you?

Yes.

Because they both of them

effectively made threats based on

the murder of another MP, Jo Cox.

My mum and sisters had death threats

about me being an Love Island.

Oh, for God's sake.

And I wasn't doing anything

really disturbing, just my

opinions.

Some people say Parliament's

got to look more like

society.

Right?

I think it needs to be more

relatable, but how it

is...

I mean, to me, and how

many people, I think of

Parliament, I think of like a room

with men and women,

but a lot of like old men

like falling asleep,

do you know what I mean?

In my mind, if I just do

like a visual, that's what I see

right now.

But then the same time,

they should be awake,

that would be a start.

But apart from that,

I feel like it can't

look like society.

You can't have Dave from your local

pub just ranting and raving

in the House of Commons,

do you know what I mean?

I think he's there!

He probably is, he's

the one sleeping.

No, I know exactly what you mean.

I think you are absolutely right.

I think we should see

more women there.

I think we could do

with more younger people in.

We could certainly do with more

women in, certainly more

black and brown faces in.

What we really want are people

who are going to do the right thing.

You could be this person!

That would be...

Do you think I'm up to it?

You?

You bet!

I bet you are.

But you stand up for yourself.

So if your stand up for yourself,

you'll stand up for other people

as well, definitely.

Well, if Donald Trump can be

president, anything is possible.

Christ, that's true.

He's ghastly.

So Olivia off Love

Island has a chance.

Excellent.

Job done.

I can drink my coffee now.

Good lunch.

I mustn't knock myself

out on this thing.

It's because you're tall!

I really enjoyed that.

You didn't eat much food, though!

I didn't.

I was too busy talking.

I didn't want lettuce hanging out

of the side of my mouth.

I can't eat and talk

at the same time.

I was trying to have a bit

of decorum about myself.

You had one chip.

One chip.

That's better than nothing.

I ate most of my chips, actually.

You did well.

I thought it was great.

Lovely to meet you,

but a good chat, as well.

Yeah, really good.

I feel like I've learned a lot.

Do you?

Yeah, I actually do.

It's nice to meet you,

who is like an MP, and you're cool,

and you're a strong woman,

and I can speak to you.

For my meeting you, you're

a very smart cookie.

You know exactly what you're doing.

Do I?

Oh, yeah, you are well...

Nobody's going to take

the mick out of you.

I hope not.

But nobody's going to exploit you,

and I think you know

exactly what you're doing,

and you get it.

And you're not daft.

Do you think you'll

vote next time, Olivia?

I'm definitely voting next time.

Every vote counts.

Absolutely.

I think I've taken that away.

Even if your area is heavily

towards one party, you go,

they are always going to win,

so what difference does it make?

It can make a difference.

It can.

Do you think we'll see you have

another lunch together soon?

She's too busy!

She's got this fantastic career!

I shall watch her now.

I shall follow you.

Follow you on Twitter!

How many followers have you got?

I think 300,000.

I am definitely going

to follow you on Twitter.

How many have you got, Anna?

62,000.

It's not bad.

That's not bad at all!

A little later we'll hear

from a 102-year-old woman

about what has changed in her life.

Still to come:

The Wikileaks founder Julian Assange

has been taking refuge

at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London

since 2012 will find out

today if his UK arrest

warrant will be dropped.

We'll speak to one of his

supporters and critics.

And a court in Liverpool has been

told there's been a further decline

in the condition of Alfie Evans -

the baby at the centre

of a legal battle about

the withdrawal of life support.

We'll speak to his father who's

fighting against the decision.

Time for the latest news.

Here's Annita.

The BBC News headlines this morning:

The value of some of Asia's biggest

companies have plunged in response

to big falls in the United States.

In New York, the Dow Jones closed

down more than 1100,

the biggest one day fall in history.

This morning the FTSE 100 crashed

by more than 200 points -

its lowest level since late 2016.

Investment director Jane Sydenham

says the drop wasn't

completely unexpected.

This is really in response to a jobs

report last week which kind

of indicated that wages were rising

a bit faster than everybody

was expecting, and the implication

from that is that interest rates

have to rise faster too, which stock

markets really don't like.

So in the last 15 months,

we've had no more than a 3%

correction in stock markets,

which is very, very unusual.

So at some point, it was likely

we were going to see a bit

more volatility anyway.

It is really very unusual

for markets to have been quite

as calm as they have been.

The Conservative MP and leading

Remain campaigner, Anna Soubry,

has called on Theresa May to

"sling out" what she called

"hard Brexiteers" in the party.

In an interview for the BBC,

she said that the frontbench

was "in hock" to 35 ideological

Leave supporters.

She insisted she would not stay

in a party taken over by people

like Jacob Rees-Mogg

and Boris Johnson.

Campaigners are proposing that women

who were jailed while fighting

for the right to vote,

should be pardoned.

Scottish Conservative leader

Ruth Davidson has joined

with the Fawcett Society

Campaign Group and relatives

of the suffragettes in calling

for convictions to be overturned.

It comes on the 100th

anniversary of some women

getting the vote in the UK.

Relatives of the victims of the 1982

IRA Hyde Park bombing have been

granted legal aid for

a civil action against a suspect.

A prosecution case against

the convicted IRA member,

John Downey, collapsed

at the Old Bailey four years ago

because he had a so-called

"on the run" letter telling him

he was no longer a wanted man.

And wouldn't be prosecuted. Julian

Assange has been living in the

Ecuadorian Embassy to avoid

deportation to Sweden. He believes

he will be extradited to the United

States if he leaves the embassy for

questioning on the activity of

WikiLeaks.

Public Health England says it wants

e-cigarettes to be prescribed

on the NHS within the next two

to three years because they're

an effective way

to help smokers quit.

The agency has reviewed the latest

evidence and says vaping poses only

a small fraction of the risk

of smoking tobacco.

It's calling for the UK's drug

regulator to help manufacturers

get their products approved.

That's a summary of

the latest BBC News.

The National crime agency has

launched one of its biggest

anti-people smuggling operations.

They say, 350 officers took part in

raids in Northumbria, Cleveland,

Sussex and the Metropolitan Police

force areas.

That's a summary of

the latest BBC News.

Here's some sport now with Sarah.

The pressure is mounting on Chelsea

boss Antonio Conte -

but he insists he's not worried

after his side fell

to a second successive defeat

in the Premier League.

They were beaten 4-1 away

at struggling Watford,

but it was an unforgettable night

for the new Hornets

boss Javi Gracia.

A first win in his

first home game in charge.

The Winter Olympics begin on Friday,

but 32 Russian athletes have

appealed against their exclusion.

Their hearings will

take place on Wednesday.

And Maddie Hinch has been named

best female hockey goalkeeper

for the second year in a row.

She was part of the GB Olympic

winning team in Rio and last year

and helped England win bronze

in both the EuroHockey Championships

and World League.

I'll be back with more later.

Julian Assange, founder of the

controversial organisation

WikiLeaks, which released government

secrets to the public has lived at

the Ecuadorian Embassy in London's

Knightsbridge since 2012. He sought

refuge there while facing sexual

assault allegations in Sweden, which

he believes were part of a plot that

would ultimately lead to his

extradition to America. Swedish

prosecutors have now dropped the

case against him, but he is still

accused of breaching bail conditions

by failing to surrender to a UK

court in 2012, and would therefore

face arrest if he were to set foot

outside the embassy. Today, a court

will rule on whether that arrest

warrant should now be dropped. A few

weeks ago, a supporter, Pamela

Anderson, told the programme how he

was doing.

He's in good form. He...

You know, it's a testament

to the human spirit.

You know, the UN ruling is

really important to look at,

that he is held under terrible

conditions and it's inhumane and

cruel and he should not be there.

He has Ecuadorian nationality now,

so is he planning to leave

the embassy any time soon?

Did you speak to him about that?

Wouldn't that be great?

But it's impossible for him to

leave under any safe circumstances

with the extradition

pending in the UK.

Or, you know...?

We just don't know, so it's

not safe for him to leave.

Did you talk to him

about that yesterday?

Yes, we talk about everything.

I always make sure he's OK.

I make sure he's exercising,

I make sure he's eating well.

He doesn't get

any sunlight, you know?

So it's a very unhealthy

situation for him.

But he is determined and relentless

and in good spirits.

What he is doing is very,

very important and we need to know.

We need to have true information.

With us in the studio

is Jennifer Robinson,

part of Assange's legal team,

human rights campaigner

Peter Tatchell who's

a friend of Assange,

and Douglas Murray from

the Henry Jackson Society

who debated publicly with Assange

in 2011 and is highly

critical of Wikileaks.

Welcome to all of you, thank you for

coming on the programme. Jennifer,

on what grounds are you going to

argue that the arrest warrant for

breaching the bail conditions should

be dropped?

The arrest warrant is in

relation to the Swedish case, which

has been dropped. The Crown

Prosecution Service is attempting to

use an old wants to assert his

arrest, which is a separate offence.

He did breach bail.

In order to seek

protection from Ecuador.

He didn't

turn up or report to a court when he

was supposed to, that is a breach of

bail.

In order to protect himself.

He still breached bail conditions.

He is willing to face British

justice, but not at the expense of

the cost of facing American

injustice.

The UK Government refuses to

confirm...

You are mixing two

things, you say he is willing to

face British justice. If he is, why

doesn't he stepped outside the

Ecuadorian Embassy and face arrest?

He is putting himself at the risk of

a potential extradition request from

the US. The US Attorney General says

prosecuting him is a priority for

the US government. The UK Government

refuses to give assurances or

confirm if they have an expedition

request. Until we have bad, he

cannot deal with that. We don't want

him to put himself at risk. That is

our main concern.

Peter, what should

happen to your friend now?

Firstly,

let's remember that Britain has an

obligation under the refugee

Convention, which is assigned to

give political asylum and recognise

political asylum for those that have

secured it. Julian Assange.

Political asylum from Ecuador in

2012. Therefore, Britain has a moral

and legal obligation under

international law to allow him to go

to Ecuador. Not doing so...

Does he

want to go to Ecuador?

Absolutely.

Not doing so is in violation of

obligations under the refugee

Convention.

He could go to Ecuador.

He has to walked out of the

building, get on a plane and face

arrest, he can make the decision

himself.

It would be a foolish

decision, because he potentially

faces life imprisonment in the US.

We know that since 2010, a grand

jury has begun investigations with

the view of prosecuting him, with

the prospect of a whole series of

charges that amount to life

imprisonment. A very foolish person

would do that.

He knew that when he

released US government secrets. He

knew that was a possibility then.

Well, he may have known that, but no

person would willingly put

themselves in a situation where they

would suffer, or be at risk of

suffering for telling the public

about the secret activities of the

United States government military.

Julian Assange, whatever you think

about him, he has performed a great

public services shining a light on

rights abuses. We ought to thank

him. He is not a terrorist, he is

not someone that has acted against

the public interest, he has acted in

the public interest by giving us the

right to know what the US government

has been doing in the name of the

American people, and indeed, the

people across the world.

Do you

thank him for that service?

No, I

don't. I think it is a partisan

point. Some people on the political

left always supported him when he

was releasing information that was

highly damaging to the United States

of America. Interestingly enough, in

the time he has been at the

Ecuadorian Embassy, there has been a

shift in support, supporters on the

American Right, because he would

least a data dump of damaging

e-mails about the Clinton campaign

that assisted Donald Trump's entry

to the White House. What do these

things have in common? Multiple

investigations by all three of the

American intelligence agencies

confirmed that the latter thing in

particular was clearly facilitated

by the Russian intelligence

services. I said this when I met him

many years ago. It was clear to me

and anyone that analysed the work he

was doing, there was one consistent

threat. Everything he did was useful

to the Russian intelligence

services. I don't know whether he

works for them, he acts as a conduit

for them. For that, nobody that

cares about freedom should care

about Julian Assange. One more

thing, the specific issue of the

Swedish rape accusations, another

thing has happened, we live in an

era where we want to believe women

when they say they have been raped.

It seems that a lot of women, a lot

of people want to believe women...

That was up to Swedish...

They

dropped... They drop them not

because... Time ran out. The statute

of limitations, which he knew would

run out and used a...

That is not

correct. He gave the case to the

Swedish prosecutor, they decided the

case ought to be closed.

Time ran

out.

Which one of cases are talking

about?

In all cases.

about?

In all cases.

OK.

Hang on a

minute. I want to ask you about

British taxpayer money. People

watching the programme have spent

money on the police standing outside

the Ecuadorian Embassy for the last

number of years, in case he tried to

escape. Surely there is no public

interest now in continuing this

arrest warrant, because it is just

going to spend more British taxpayer

money.

Firstly, I think that

accusations that women bring about

rape should be treated seriously,

and taxpayers can understand that.

Secondly, it is in the taxpayer

interest to be interested in a

manner that has acted as a conduit

for Russian intelligence. That is

not a weird, niche interest. It is a

serious problem for this country and

allies.

What should he be charged

with?

We shall see, I am not a

lawyer.

You are making this

allegation. Watmore has a broken?

We

will see.

We shall see.

You don't

know. He should be tried by British

authorities.

Whatever we think about

Julian Assange, he has served the

equivalent of a 5.5 year prison

term. His detention in the

Ecuadorian Embassy.

He has chosen to

be there.

The United Nations working

group said it was arbitrary

detention.

He can walk out any day,

you know that is true.

He has served

the prevalence of age five and a

half year prison term. That is

punishment enough. I think we need

to move on, because I can't see the

public interest or public benefit in

pursuing him further.

Let me bring

Jennifer Robinson back in. "Julian

Assange isn't being held, he is

hiding out to evade justice." Mark

tweets," Julian Assange of Rochelle

WikiLeaks, I have no sympathy for

him." Is he a Russian agent?

Absolutely not.

How do you know?

The

New York Times said they would have

published the DMC material. It was

information in the public interest

and true information.

If he wins

today, if the arrest warrant is

dropped, might he choose to remain

inside the Ecuadorian Embassy for

the foreseeable, because of this

fear you say he has about being to

the USA?

We are concerned there is

an extradition request that the UK

refuses to confirm or deny. We

suspect it is waiting for the police

to execute it once he is in custody.

The US has said it is a priority to

prosecute him, we know the CIA

director says he should not benefit

from first Amendment rights and they

want to take WikiLeaks down. These

are serious threats, no one can

credibly deny that the US is not a

threat.

He has done a very serious

thing. In saying you don't know a

Russian agent or you think he is

not, you ignore the more likely

possibility which would be

consistent with the Russian

intelligence operations that they

use go-betweens. Mr Assange does not

need to know or care to answer the

question about where these data

dumps come from. Always help Russia,

always help them. Never once in all

these years has he released anything

remotely critical of the SF -- of

the FSB or any other agency of the

Russian state. I wonder why?!

Thank

you for coming in. We will see what

happens and report back.

Coming up... How can we deal with

online trolls? Katie Price is giving

evidence to MPs calling for online

abuse to be made into a specific

offence with a register of

offenders. We will speak to her

after 10am.

If you have experienced online

abuse, what do you think of her

notion that there should be a

register of offenders, a database,

if you like?

Shares in London and across Europe

fell steeply when markets opened

this morning, triggered by the big

falls in the United States.

How significant is this? Our

business editor Simon Jack said it

is not a crash but a correction.

A correction is when it goes down

10% from its peak. Just to remind

everyone, the stock market has been

on a hell of a tear over the last

few years, one-way traffic. Once in

a while, some people think it is

quite healthy to take some air out

of the tyres, bring it back to a

more sustainable level. I think it

is a correction, not a crash at the

moment, because the global economy

is pretty strong. It is very rare to

get a full-blown crash like in 1987

Black Monday when you have the

underlying

underlying fundamentals of the

economy are pretty strong.

Will it matter to people with

savings? If you have a pension and

you owned some of the shares which

have fallen pretty strongly, you

will take a small hit. Usually

pension savings due to it over the

long term, and over the long-term

trend has been up.

Correction, not crush, I would say.

Let's speak to an economic

journalist. How have the world stock

markets that have opened so far

reacted?

It is not a pretty picture. You

heard from Simon Jack that all

around the globe you have seen share

falling quite dramatically. If you

have a pension or any fund that

invests in something like the FTSE

100, you will be concerned. But

let's look at the bigger picture.

What has happened is not concerned

about what is going on in the UK but

concerns about the US. Shares their

rose very quickly indeed last year,

up by 25%. That is not because the

economy was 25% stronger or company

profits were, it is because people

feel very upbeat about prospects.

But at the back of their mind all

these traders knew that interest

rates which have been incredibly low

for almost a decade were likely to

start rising even further up, that

was likely to happen over the next

year or two. That reality check has

happened quite suddenly in the last

few days. Investors are realising

that inflation could be inching up

in the US, inflation rates are

likely to rise, perhaps faster than

they thought. So the party was

coming to an almighty Holt and

shares falling quite dramatically on

Monday in the US. In the UK, the

stock markets have not done nearly

as well over the past year. They

have been raised... Weighed down by

concerns over Brexit. But there was

a jittery mood. Shares have been

falling, and have done so around the

globe. US consumers spend a lot of

money and if they are scared about

their money it impacts on

manufacturers and other companies as

well. Those jitters are likely to

continue. Concerns are likely to

remain, meaning markets are likely

to remain very shaky. A bit of a

bright spot ahead. It feels like

markets in the US are expected to

open up, rant about 100 points, a

small rise compared to what they

fell by in the last couple of days,

but nevertheless it underlines we

are not looking at a one-way crash,

but perhaps a roller-coaster few

months.

The global economy is

growing. How does this all feed into

central bank Sam Baird decisions in

the future to leave historically low

interest rates as they are or

whether to raise them? That is

important to people with mortgages

and savings.

It is crucial. Our bank

will bring out the latest decision

in just two days. Growth is doing

better than many people expected

given all the uncertainties over the

future path of the UK and Brexit,

but there are no signs yet really of

inflation building up. If anything,

inflation is likely to fall. A

stronger growth picture means the

Bank of England might feel it has to

raise interest rates once or twice

over the course of the year just to

keep things in check and make sure

the economy does not overheat, but

if you consider where interest rates

are now compared to where they were

headed the financial crisis, it is a

very low level. Some relief perhaps

for mortgage holders if you are a

saver, don't expect a huge increase

in your returns any time soon. The

misery have seen over the last

decade is likely to continue, I am

afraid.

Thank you for coming on the

programme.

Thank you for your many comments

about the Conservative Remain

supporting MP Anna Seabury and

Olivia from Love Island. Christine

says Brilliant, wonderful to watch

as conversation. Such lovely honesty

that took both women forward in

their understanding.

Jennifer said a very interesting

dynamic, both were interested in the

other's opinions even when there

were signs of coming from different

directions. They respected each of

the's position. Interestingly, as

the date went on their views

converted, to some extent.

Simon, since when did women are

appearing on Big Brother, Love

Island, the only way as Essex etc

etc etc anything to do with women's

suffrage? If anything these

programmes have dragged Women's

Equality Party centuries. Chuck says

if you had shown interviews the --

suffragettes the interview of Anna

Soubry explaining politics to Olivia

from Love Island, they would have

thrown themselves under horses.

Later we will speak to a

102-year-old on how things have

changed.

Jim readers here to update on the

trial of Barry Bennell, the former

football coach.

This is the former football coach

linked above Manchester City and

Crewe Alexandra football clubs. He

was accused of 48 counts of

historical abuse against a living

boys -- against 11 boys. That has

been changed to 45 after the judge

directed the jury to return not

guilty verdicts on three of those

offences. Mr Bernal denies the other

45p. Yesterday, we had the closing

speeches from Nicholas Johnson QC,

the prosecution barrister in this

case. He told Liverpool Crown Court

that Mr Bennell had described his

own house is a bit of a kids'

paradise with pool table, arcade

machines and exotic pets. --

described his own house as. The

prosecution said we suggest he is a

child molester on an industrial

scale, which is why he went to these

lengths to get so many lads around

his house. He told the jury that the

alleged victims cared only about

being a professional footballer. He

said Barry Bennell knew that and

exploited that.

Mr Bennell decided not to give

evidence in this trial, the

prosecution referred to that as well

in their closing arguments. The

prosecution barrister said she will

remember that Mr Bennell made

repeated denials in interview, this

is in police interview, backed up by

a request to take a lie detector

test. We have 12 lie detectors in

this court, and I am looking at you,

he said, referring to the jury. Mr

Bennell is appearing in court via

video link because of ill-health. He

shook his head at times as the

prosecutor 's book. The trial will

continue today, Mr Bennell's defence

barrister will deliver her speech.

Thank you.

-- he shook his head at

times as the prosecutor spoke.

Quentin Tarantino has opened up

about his role in a car crash

involving Uma Thurman on the set of

one of his Kill Bill films. He

called it the biggest regret of his

life. Sinead Garvin is here. Uma

Thurman spoke in an American

newspaper adverts and pretty

traumatic experience as well filming

Kill Bill.

She spoke about her

relationship with Harvey Weinstein

and this came up. The important

thing to note is pulp fiction and

the Kill Bill films whether

Weinstein/ Tarantino/ Thurman, the

three other making these very

successful films. Weinstein said

that Pulp Fiction was the reason he

got his name. It is a very important

relationship. She talks about her

relationship with Weinstein but goes

on to talk about the car crash which

happened in 2002. You can see some

footage now. Kill Bill volume one,

she said at the time to Quentin

Tarantino, who was directing, I

don't want to get in the car, I want

a stuntwoman. She says he got quite

angry and said you can do it, it is

safe, I had dinner myself, it is a

straight road, you can do this. -- I

have done it myself. She

continuously said she did not feel

safe. This crash happened 15 years

ago and was covered up. She blames

Harvey Weinstein.

She was injured,

damaged her knees, had to wear a

neck brace?

Permanent damage to her

knees. She does not blame Tarantino,

says he has been helpful in getting

the footage back. She wanted 15

years ago, was not allowed, he went

to his archives and got this

footage. Following on from her

interview in the New York Times, he

has said he is deeply regretful, it

is the biggest regret of his life.

That she did the stunt? Ago that she

got into the car. He says she only

did it because she trusted him, you

convinced it was

safe, and it was

not. He is deeply regrettable and

remains remorseful he gave her the

footage to help with this article

which she posted on social media.

Reading some of the quotes from

Tarantino, it is very interesting.

He said I found the footage 15 years

later, we went to storage

facilities, I could not believe it,

I did not think we would find it. It

showed the crash and the aftermath

and I was very happy to get it to

Uma There was a feeling from the

interview that perhaps he was

getting in the way?

It feels like

Tarantino was caught up in the fire

of all this when the New York Times

article came out over the weekend.

Everybody blame Tarantino for the

crash and I think what Uma wanted is

to say that obviously as director he

was part of it and I got into the

car because of him, but she blames

the cover-up and everything that

happened in the aftermath to Harvey

Weinstein and the other producers.

Thank you very much, Sinead.

We will bring you the latest news

and sport at 10am, but before that

the weather. It is still freezing.

and sport at 10am, but before that

the weather. It is still freezing.

Freezing am pretty snowy for some.

Waking up to a covering of snow in

Scotland. Snow falling across parts

of north-west England. The band of

snow is moving South and East across

Wales. On this beach and Ceredigion

we have had snow falling, even

towards Cornwall some falling snow.

This band of snow on the radar

imagery is moving South and East,

some wintry flurries across parts of

the south-east of England and

showers coming behind it across the

far north and west. This is how we

look for the rest of today, this

area of snow continues to move into

the Midlands, parts of East

Yorkshire, Lincolnshire and the

south-west. It is fizzing away,

becoming much lighter into the

afternoon.

Good spells of Sunshine in the

south-east, sunny spells across

Scotland and Northern Ireland, heavy

snow showers in the far north-west,

the large rumble of thunder. Watch

out for snow and ice across parts of

eastern England this evening. That

will move further south and east. As

you can see by the blue, a

widespread and hard frost tonight.

Temperatures below freezing for us

all. In the countryside it could be

as low as -72 -11 Celsius over the

snowfields of Scotland. A very cold

start, it should be dry on Wednesday

but then we look to the north-west

and have an area of rain. A cold

front and a warm front, in between

those a wedge of mild air. As it

moves and it will be mainly of rain

on Wednesday, ahead of the cold air

sitting in place across England and

Wales.

A cold and frosty start, eventually

the rain moves into Scotland and

Northern Ireland. It will fall of

snow over the higher ground, down to

low levels it will be mainly rain.

Increasing cloud in the north-west,

down towards the south-east it will

be try. Temperatures two to 4

degrees, feeling pretty chilly on

Wednesday, but the mild air will

move further south and east would,

all with the weather front, meaning

on Thursday there will be quite a

bit of cloud for many, some

outbreaks of rain throughout the day

across northern England, Wales and

the south-west.

Some dry weather towards the

north-west. Temperatures will be up,

five to even 10 Celsius in the

south-west. It gets chilly again on

Friday and into the weekend.

Hello.

It's Tuesday, the 6th of February.

It's 10am.

I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

It's the 100th anniversary

of women getting the vote,

and there are calls this morning

for a posthumous pardon

for the women who were

imprisoned for the cause.

Campaigners say the move

would be a fitting tribute.

A large number of people

in prominent positions have made the

amazing discovery, really amazing,

that women could do routine

engineering jobs.

They could collect tickets

at railway stations and act

as bus conductors, they never

thought it was possible before.

And this made them really

feel that at long last

ought to have the vote.

Katie Price will give evidence to

MPs as she calls for online trolls

to be put on a register of

offenders. We speak to a mum whose

son took his own life after being

trolled online.

trolled online. If you think At The

Races evict offence for online abuse

would stop people trolling.

And fresh from his victory

yesterday in the High Court

which blocked his extradition

to the United States

to face charges of hacking

into the FBI, US Army and Nasa -

we speak to Lauri Love and finds out

what's next for him.

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of today's news.