05/02/2018 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello, it's Monday, it's

9:00am, I'm Chloe Tilley

in for Victoria Derbyshire,

welcome to the programme.

Our top story today...

Number Ten has insisted that the UK

will leave the customs union

when it leaves the EU -

but what happens next

is still up for negotiation.

Theresa May seeks to reassure Tory

Brexiteers there will be no sell-out

as she quashes the ID with any sort

of customs union with the European

Union.

As the row continues

to highlight divisions

within the Conservative Party,

we'll get reaction from

a group of Tory voters.

Do they have confidence

in Theresa May's leadership?

My name is Harry and I believe

Theresa May is doing a good job,

doing what is necessary to get us a

good deal.

My name is Grace and I

think Theresa May is weak. Jacob

Rees Mogg is the Prime Minister.

My

name is Linda and I think Theresa

May is doing a good job, but I think

she can do a better job, she needs

to stand firm.

Also on the programme...

This programme has been told that

thousands of people are desperate

to get out of their time-share

contracts, but can't because they're

far too complex and costly.

Every door is closing on me, I

cannot go anywhere. I cannot get

free of this thing and it's like a

disease, if you like, hanging over

you.

That full exclusive report

in around 15 minutes' time.

A doctor said there is no hope for

20-month-old Alfie Evans as doctors

want to switch off his life support.

We talk to other parents who have

had similar decisions to make.

Hello, welcome to the programme,

we're live until 11:00.

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you the latest breaking news

and developing stories and,

as always, really keen to hear

from you on all the stories

we're talking about.

A little later we'll hear claims

that returns on university degrees

can be "paltry" when you consider

the £50,000 many students

rack up getting them.

We want to hear your experiences.

If you've recently graduated, do you

have any regrets over your degree?

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Our top story, a Downing Street

source has ruled out the prospect of

Britain staying in any kind of

European customs union after Brexit.

The statement came days after the

strong supporters of leaving had

criticised Theresa May for not

taking a stand on the issue. The

customs union allows goods made in

the EU to move around the block

without tariffs and without few

checks. But it prevents members from

striking their own free trade deals

with other countries. Norman Smith,

all sorted?

What we have seen in recent days, we

note the Tory Brexiteers have been

on the warpath breathing down

Theresa May's neck. One of the

issues they have been getting to her

over is this idea of staying in this

EU trading bloc, which we are

currently in. Theresa May has always

said we will not claim in the

customs union, but she has been less

clear on whether we can stay in some

sort of revamped customs union,

another form of customs union. Last

night Downing Street put it down in

black and white that we will not be

part of any type of customs union

whatsoever. That will please the

Brexit is because they regard the

great prize of Brexit is our

ability, once we leave, to go out on

strike our own trade deals, which we

cannot do if we

cannot do if we stay in a customs

union. Albeit there are plenty of

Tory remainders, the Labour Party

and the SNP and others who do want

us to think about staying in a

customs union and that was what

Hilary Benn said this morning.

The Prime Minister has Brexiteers to

the left of her, remain as to the

right of her but in the end she will

need to make a decision because we

need to know what the future

relationship is going to be. I think

we should stay in the customs union

and I think we should stay as close

as possible to the single market

because it is in our economic

interests. This noise, argument and

accusation assessments are not being

done fairly, these are symptoms of

the inability of the government to

do its job.

Anyone who has read the papers over

the weekend will have read about the

various plots to get rid of Theresa

May and we know about the split in

the Tory party, will this be enough

to quieten those plotters?

I suspect

not, it may buy Theresa May some

breathing space but a lot of the

Tory Brexiteers are suspicious about

the sort of deal she will deliver.

Throughout this whole process she

has had to shimmy this way and

shimmy that way, to keep her party

together. The basic problems she

faced hasn't changed since the

election, which is, she has divided

cabinet, a divided party and she

doesn't have a Commons majority,

which makes her position incredibly

fragile, which is why she has had to

be very, very careful, every little

step she has taken. But she does

seem, over the weekend, to have

decided to throw a bit of meat to

the Brexiteers, OK on the customs

union, no question about it, we will

not have any customs union at all,

that will please them.

Norman Smith,

thank you.

And a little later in the programme

we'll be asking Conservative Party

supporters and activists how

they think the government is doing

and whether it might be time

for Theresa May to step aside.

We are keen to get your support as

well.

Annita is in the BBC

Newsroom with a summary

of the rest of the days' news.

A new ring-fenced tax to fund

the NHS and social care in England

has been proposed by a panel

of health experts.

The panel, commissioned

by the Liberal Democrats has also

recommended a return of caps

on personal payments

for adult social care.

Here's our Health Editor, Hugh Pym.

Thousands of demonstrators marched

through London at the weekend

calling for increased funding

for the NHS.

Health unions joined other

campaigners, arguing

there was a winter crisis

which needed urgent

action and investment.

Today, a report from health experts,

including the former

head of NHS England,

has called for new answers

to NHS funding problems.

The report commissioned

by the Liberal Democrats calls

for an extra ?billion on top

of inflation for the NHS in England

in the next financial year,

more than double the increase

announced in the budget.

A single, ring-fenced tax

for health and social care

replacing National Insurance.

And reinstating a commitment

to cap the costs paid

by individuals for social care.

The report argues that higher

funding needed for health and care

should come through increased

taxation, and that this will be more

transparent if there is a dedicated

tax for this purpose.

Longer waiting lists and rationing

for some treatments, it says,

are undermining the key principles

of the NHS.

In response, the Department

of Health and Social Care said

the NHS had been prioritised

in the budget, and an extra ?

billion had already been provided

for social care in England.

Hugh Pym, BBC News.

Customers of the Lloyds banking

group have been banned

from using their credit cards to buy

virtual currencies such as bitcoin.

The decision affects all account

holders with Lloyds Bank,

Bank of Scotland, Halifax and MBNA.

The group says it's protecting

customers from running up debts

they could never repay.

The surviving suspect from the Paris

terror attacks of 2015 will go on

trial in Belgian today. Salah

Abdeslam faces charges relating to

shoot outs he had with police while

on the run in Belgian in 2016. He

faces a second trial relating to his

involvement in the Paris at later

date.

Our Europe correspondent Gavin Lee

is at the court in Brussels.

Salah Abdeslam, at one time the most

wanted man in Europe, what can we

expect from the court today?

This is

a separate case because the four

months after the Paris attacks, the

13th of November 2015 where 150

people were killed in the Bataclan,

restaurants and the Stade de France,

for four months, Salah Abdeslam, was

missing, the only sole surviving

suspect and he was picked up on CCTV

at a service station between Paris

and Brussels in the early hours

after the attacks. This case in

Brussels, at the highest court, you

can see the police. 200 officers

here, Belgian special police forces,

to secure this whole site. This is

to do with when he was first

discovered in a flat about three

miles from here in a suburb of

Brussels when police came to the

door looking for Salah Abdeslam. As

they opened the door they came under

gunfire, Kalashnikov gunfire. It was

sustained for several hours and

Salah Abdeslam is alleged to have

cleared and fled via rooftops. He

was found three days later and shot

by police near his family home. Four

days after that it was the Brussels

attacks, 32 people were killed. It

is also to be linked. This is to do

with the attempted murder of police

officers at the flat. But his

lawyers are saying he is willingly

taking part, so he may speak. He

arrived flanked by armed police

officers. This may be the first time

we hear evidence from him.

Gavin,

thank you very much.

This programme has been told that

thousands of people desperate to get

out of their timeshare contracts

are currently unable

to because it is far

too complex and costly.

A timeshare usually involves

paying a one-off lump sum

in return for being able to use

the property for an agreed

number of weeks each year,

every year for life.

And we'll have more on that story

later in the programme.

Many graduates receive "paltry

returns" for their degrees

despite racking up £50,000 in debt -

that's according to the head

of the House of Commons'

Education Select Committee.

In a speech today, Robert Halfon

will argue that too

many people are taking academic

degrees and that the rewards

for taking them "vary wildly".

But the organisation that represents

UK universities says graduates earn

more than non-graduates and are more

likely to be in employment.

Snow has caused a number

of accidents in south-east England,

at the start of what forecasters say

could be one of the coldest

weeks of the winter.

This was footage taken

by the police called out

to accidents on the M20 in Kent.

Luckily no one was seriously

injured and the motorway

has now been cleared.

The Met Office has issued yellow

warnings of snow and ice

for large parts of the UK.

One woman had a lucky escape

when she got stranded on a beach

and had to be rescued by the RNLI.

The woman you can see

in the water in these pictures,

was forced to climb on to the top

of her submerged car,

after becoming stranded

on the Cumbrian coast as the tide

came in and the water

levels began to rise.

She was treated for hypothermia

but was otherwise unharmed.

That's a summary of the latest BBC

News, more at 9:30am.

We want to hear from you this

morning if you have bought a

time-share, if you are happy with it

or you are trying to get out it.

Peter on Facebook said he didn't

mind boasting about these holiday

homes when you bought them, you take

your chance whether you win or lose.

Somebody else says, anybody who is

stupid enough to fall for a

time-share deserves what they get. A

and his money are easily parted.

Do get in touch with us

throughout the morning -

use the hashtag Victoria live

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Let's get some sport from Sarah.

Was the Superbowl

worth staying up for?

It really was. It turned out to be

third time lucky for the

Philadelphia Eagles. They were

runners-up in 1980 and 2004 but the

franchise finally won their first

Super Bowl overnight. What an upset,

their fans had taken to wearing dark

masks in the lead up, such was their

underdog status coming into the

game. But in the

game. But in the final day beat the

defending champions in Minneapolis.

Let's have a look at the touchdown

they're saying will be

shown a billion times -

Nick Foles - who led

magnificiently on the night -

became the first quarterback

to throw and catch touchdowns

in Superbowl history.

He only came into the side

towards the end of the regular

season as an injury replacement.

So you can imagine the celebrations

ongoing in Philadelphia now.

And if the football

is not your thing -

there's always the half time

show for entertainment.

This year it was Justin Timberlake

wowing the crowds.

The 12-minute performance included

a tribute to Prince -

he ended up in the

middle of the crowd.

Where this 13-year-old may just be

the most popular person

in his school today -

bagging a selfie with the star.

And while it doesn't take long

to find that selfie online.

Ryan McKenna the lucky 13-year-old

and it seems the internet has

fallen in love with him.

#selfiekid seemed to

be his twitter name -

and now many are calling him

the Superbowl's MVP in place

of quarterback Nick Foles.

He doesn't look like he's got that

much security. Cannot believe Justin

Timberlake can go into the centre of

a crowd.

What a start to the Six

Nations this weekend -

Wales with a stunning victory over

Scotland and the last minute drop

goal for Ireland to steal

the win against France -

on Saturday, and then yesterday

it was England's turn

as they began their defence

of the title.

And it went pretty well.

They ran in seven tries for a bonus

point win over Italy in Rome.

A nice Six Nations debut for

Sam Simmonds though with two tries..

Worry for Ben Youngs,

the scrum half stretchered off

early with a knee injury.

early with a knee injury.

46-15 the final score in Rome.

There very quiet apart from the

final ten minutes to the day.

The final ten minutes provided

an equaliser, two penalties,

one saved and one missed

and sandwiched in between

was what looked like a stoppage time

winner for Livepool.

Harry Kane missed the first but made

up for it in the second

to give him his 100th

Premier League goal.

And before any of that,

came one of the goals of the season.

This was the equaliser.

Substitute Victor Wanyama

smashing home an equaliser

with ten minutes to go.

That cancelled out Mo Salah's

earlier strike, only

for the Egyptian to score this

brilliant goal at the end.

In stoppage time.

But there was still time

for a second Spurs penalty.

You don't give Harry Kane a second

chance, do you? That levelled things

off at 2-2. Relieved to have

equalised at the end.

Take your hat

off to him, he missed the first

penalty, saved and he took the

second one. Got to be brave.

We will speak to you later on. .

This programme has been told that

thousands of people desperate to get

out of their timeshare contracts

are currently unable

to because it is far

too complex and costly.

Timeshares were very popular

in the 1980s and 1990s -

they were marketed as holidays

without the hassle -

investors were told their timeshares

would increase in value and be easy

to get out of, whenever they wanted.

But for many, this didn't happen

and instead they've been left

with increasing maintenance charges

on a property they

can't get rid off.

can't get rid of.

Timeshare groups say the industry

provides millions of people

with quality holidays every year.

Our reporter Anna

Collinson has more.

# It was acceptable in the '80s

# It was acceptable at the time

# It was acceptable in the '80s...#

It's the 1980s, and hundreds

of thousands of people are signing

contracts which promise cheap sun

and convenient getaways,

normally in Spain.

# I've got love for you

# If you were born in

the '80s, the '80s...#

Many were told their time-shares

were an investment,

that they would increase in value,

and that they could get rid of them

when ever they wanted.

Many of those people are now

retired or close to it

and they can no longer afford

or use their time-share.

So, what happens then?

We had some good years with it

but over the years, of course,

things have changed.

So, quickly, here's how it works.

People buy a share in a property

for a number of weeks each year,

usually paying a one off lump sum.

In return, they get the right to use

their annual weeks in the apartment,

which in some cases can last

until they die.

Time-share owners must also pay

maintenance charges,

which can increase year on year.

I'd come back home to mum,

I didn't really know

anybody that was gay,

so it was just like,

I'll just see if I can

find some friends.

That was all I wanted,

just a friend that I could speak to,

that knew how I felt,

because I was 40 at the time

and it was first time I'd ever come

out in the open, if you like.

It was taken outside the lodge...

Wendy Barker met her partner,

Anne Jackson Blanchard, in 1995.

LAUGHTER.

She was quite punctilious,

but quite jolly with it.

Does it bring back nice memories?

Yes, I suppose it does, yeah, yeah.

The couple decided

to get a time-share.

So, this is a photograph

of the lodge taken from one angle.

The bungalow in the countryside

cost nearly £9,000.

What it was was an escape for me,

really, because I worked

within the prison service,

it was freedom, if you like,

from being shut in those walls.

But as the years passed,

the couple separated, Wendy retired

and Anne's health deteriorated.

They could no longer

use their time-share,

but every year were paying around

£900 to cover its maintenance fees.

So then I tried to sell it,

I tried to give it away.

It was just, nobody wanted it

because the maintenance fees

were going up and up and up.

We were also told if there comes

a time where you don't want it

and you decide that's it,

we'll buy it back from you.

Never happened.

Some companies allow

time-share owners to terminate

agreements on request.

Others only allow it

if a person is sick,

elderly or bankrupt,

but Anne was told she

wasn't sick enough.

In October, she died.

Anne spent nearly the last ten years

of her life worrying

about this time-share.

Yeah.

Do you think that

impacted on her health?

It didn't help, it

certainly didn't help her.

It's just one of them things,

she couldn't help how

she was and time beat her.

Yeah...

Not nice.

Industry bodies believe

up to 600,000 people

own time-shares in the UK.

The cost can vary, depending

on the property, but lawyers at this

firm says its clients have

paid between £300-£1300.

Trading Standards say if the person

wants to exit a time-share,

they should contact their company

directly and, in most cases,

they will let a consumer leave.

If they don't, or there's

a possibility of mis-selling,

you can get legal advice.

So, welcome to the office.

As you can see, there

are a number of files here.

I would estimate that there

are over 1,000 cases,

and that number is growing daily.

Lawyers have told this programme

many of their clients

were mis-sold their time-shares,

often because important

information was kept from them.

In some cases, annual maintenance

fees, which can start

in the hundreds and reach

into the thousands,

have increased by 400%.

Citizens Advice says

it's dealt with around

1,600 time-share problems

in the past two years.

Some people have got so desperate,

they're selling their time-share

online for as little as 25p.

It's got a bad reputation,

time-share, so the time-share

companies, it's in their interest

to keep them in their time-share,

so it's very difficult to actually

get released from them.

Law firms are now calling

for all people with time-shares

to be able to give reasonable notice

to get out of their contract.

Another person struggling to get

out of their time-share

is retiree Andrew McNaught.

Nice to meet you.

A fan of the sunshine,

he bought a time-share

in Gran Canaria for nearly £8,000.

His family rarely use it now,

because of his wife's poor health,

but every year they still pay

out around £370.

But I spoke to a person last time

we were there and he said

there was a massive,

massive waiting list

of over 600 people.

So...

You know, you think, how the heck am

I going to get out of it?

I saw an advert in the daily

newspaper, a full-page spread,

which said, "We can get

you compensation

for your time-share.

for your time-share".

I said to my wife, "Look,

we've got nothing to lose".

We've been told what happened next

to Andrew has also happened

to hundreds of others.

A company which promised to help him

out of his current time-share,

A company which promised to help him

out of his current time-share

managed to persuade him to invest

into a second one -

making his desperate

situation even worse.

The tactic is known as hot room.

They say you've won a holiday.

The company said that we needed

to go to Tenerife.

They'll sit down with a salesman.

Most of the time they

are given alcohol.

The salesman will try

and sell them the product.

We were made to feel

that they were going to get us out

of the time-share and pay us

some silly money.

Invariably, after 6-9

hours of this gruelling,

gruelling breakdown,

they will sign the contract.

It's the same routine that happens

again and again and again.

These people, these salesmen can

literally sell snow to Eskimos,

they are so professional

in what they do.

We have people from all walks

of life, professionals right

down to, say, a lollipop lady.

The Resort Development Organisation

is the European trade association

for time-shares and says

all of its members are required

to sign a code of conduct.

It's told this programme that it's

invested significant amounts

of money into investigating

unethical companies

that target consumers.

The Government says it's aware

of issues around some time-share

contracts and has tightened the law

to ensure owners are

properly informed.

There'll be some people who say that

you signed a contract and you may

not like it, but you

have to stick to it.

What would you say to that?

Yes, and foolishly I suppose

I did, and I didn't look

deep enough into it.

I can imagine now how

prisoners must feel initially

when they first go in.

I know we had a lot of people that

used to get really upset

because once that door slammed,

that was it for hours.

And now I feel a bit

like that myself.

It's like every door

is just shutting on me.

I can't go anywhere, you know?

I can't get free of this

thing and it's like

a disease hanging over you.

That report by Anna Collinson.

There is an article on the front

page of the BBC news website, it is

one of the most popular stories this

morning.

Really keen to hear from you -

if you own a timeshare and have

struggled to get rid of it -

do get in touch.

Your experiences very welcome.

An e-mail from Camellia, we got out

of a time-share agreement with our

solicitor finding a short clause in

the agreement specifying we would be

able to exchange for what we

purchased. Ken says he owns a

time-share in Scotland and has done

since 1986 and I am currently trying

to get out of the contract through a

specialist time-share release

company. Suzie has said my parents

bought a time-share and we love it,

we took our daughters every year

with my parents, 35 years ago. Now I

am taking my daughter and her young

family. Share your experiences this

morning.

In the next hour, we'll hear

from a timeshare group who says it

represents the interests

of consumers - and the industry.

Still to come:

As Theresa May rules out the UK

staying in the customs union,

we'll get reaction from this

group of Tory voters.

Do they have faith

in her leadership?

And half of former professional

sports people struggle

with emotions, mental and financial

issues once they retire -

a survey suggests.

We'll get reaction to that

from a former rugby league player

who became addicted

to drugs when he retired.

Time for the latest

news, here's Anita.

The BBC News

headlines this morning.

A Downing Street source has ruled

out the prospect of Britain staying

in any kind of European customs

union after Brexit. The statement

came after days in which the strong

supporters of leaving had criticised

Theresa May for not taking a stand

on the issue. The customs union

allows goods made in the EU to move

around the block without tariffs and

few checks but it prevents members

from striking their own free trade

deals with countries.

A new

ring fenced tax to fund the NHS and

social care in England has been

proposed by a panel of health

experts. Set up by the Liberal

Democrats, it says the NHS in

England should be given an extra £4

billion. The government says it

prioritised NHS funding at the last

budget providing £2 billion.

Schalke.

Customers of the Lloyds banking

group have been banned

from using their credit cards to buy

virtual currencies such as bitcoin.

The decision affects

all account holders

with Lloyds Bank, Bank of Scotland,

Halifax and MBNA.

The group says it's protecting

customers from running up debts

they could never repay.

The sole surviving suspect

from the Paris terror attacks

of 2015 will go on trial

in Belgium today.

Salah Abdeslam faces charges

relating to a shootout he had

with police while on the run

in Belgium in 2016.

He faces a second trial relating

to his involvement in the Paris

attacks at a later date.

This programme has been told that

thousands of people desperate to get

out of their timeshare contracts

are currently unable

to because it is far

too complex and costly.

A timeshare usually involves

paying a one-off lump sum

in return for being able to use

the property for an agreed

number of weeks each year,

every year for life.

That's a summary of

the latest BBC News.

Here's some sport now.

It was a thrilling Super Bowl

overnight in Minnesota.

The Philadelphia Eagles

beat the favourites,

New England Patriots 41-33 -

the first time they've

they've won the title.

As always the half time show didn't

fail to disappoint -

as Justin Timberlake wowed

the crowds.

England began their defence

of the title with a comfortable

victory over Italy.

They ran in seven tries in Rome

for a bonus point win.

46-15 the final score.

Liverpool versus Spurs -

the game that had everything.

A goal of the season

contender, two injury time

goals, two penalties -

one missed, and Harry Kane's 100th

Premier League goal.

It ended 2-2 at Anfield.

I'll be back with more

later in the programme

I'll be back with more

later in the programme.

Thanks.

Downing Street has insisted Britain

will leave the customs

union after Brexit.

The customs union is a trade

agreement between EU states that

allows companies to exchange goods

across the EU without any taxes

on the exports known

as a tariff and with a common

tariff on imports

from outside the EU.

The issue has laid bare divisions

within the Tory party over

whether the UK should follow

a so-called soft or hard Brexit.

It comes ahead of a week of key

Brexit meetings with the EU chief

negotiator and with her most senior

ministers.

So how is this going

down with Tory voters?

Do grassroot tories want

a change in leader?

With us now a selection

of Tory voters.

We've brought together some

conservative party supporters

Let's talk about the customs union.

It's not an announcement, it was in

the manifesto, the Florence speech.

There have been discussions over the

last few weeks and Theresa May

hasn't said any type of the customs

union, just a customs union we know?

Call it what you will, she has ruled

out the customs union time and time

again. She is going to get is the

best deal possible, we have to be

willing to negotiate and put things

on the table. There is scope for a

future trade deal between the UK and

the EU but right now we are waiting

for the EU to come back with

something reasonable. She is ruling

out staying in what we have now, but

she's not ruling out any future

relationship?

Grace, you are looking

unimpressed?

It is always going on,

this Brexit stuff. I suppose she has

now made a decision so that is good.

If we are not in the customs union

we have free movement. I think it is

good we have made a decision we will

not be in the customs union.

So that

is quite good.

What about on this

site? We talked about earlier, I

think I will always want to remain,

but you either Brexit and you go

properly or you do not do it at all.

If you want to Brexit properly, you

need to come out of the customs

union.

Absolutely, there isn't a

playbook for this, this is the first

time a country has tried to leave

the EU, Theresa May doesn't have a

precedent and Theresa May is trying

to do as good a job as possible.

Things people are saying, Margaret

Thatcher wouldn't do this, Churchill

wouldn't do this. She is not

Margaret Thatcher or Churchill, she

is Theresa May.

Harry, what do you

say?

Theresa May is doing as good a

job as she can, she is being

lambasted by people on the Labour

side and also think tanks, the CBI

who want us to stay in the customs

union.

There are people in the

Conservative Party who want Britain

to stay in the customs union?

I

would dispute that.

I would

disagree, as Harry said it wasn't in

the Conservative manifesto. Most

people in the Conservative Party are

united behind the Prime Minister to

get the best deal possible. The best

deal is a full Brexit and nearly way

to achieve that is to leave the

customs union.

What do you think,

Sophie?

Europe has plagued the

Conservative Party for decades now,

so it's not unusual that the leader

is struggling. I think any leader,

including Margaret Thatcher would

have struggled with this.

Yes, I

agree with what Sophie is saying, it

is a hard one, but I was pleased to

hear the Prime Minister has come out

and said we will not stay in the

customs union. I have heard and read

there has been different views along

the way, different statements made.

I think now she has to hold her

ground and get with it, do it and

stand firm. You cannot keep messing

around and playing both sides of

your party.

Where do we go now? We

know it is a critical week, Michel

Barnier is having meetings with

David Davis and also Theresa May.

Craig, how do you think generally,

the Brexit negotiations are going?

I

think they could have gone better.

Theresa May doesn't have the

authority so even after today when

she said we will be staying in, MPs

will be going on TV saying, I think

we should do this, I think we should

do that because she doesn't have a

grip of her MPs to say, this is what

we are doing. They still think they

can sway her opinion because she

keeps changing her mind.

You are

nodding?

I want to go back when

David Davis was being appointed as

Brexit minister. He said in one of

the articles, we will do trade

negotiations with each country in

the EU. It is not possible. How can

the Brexit minister say something

like that he should have been aware

he has to negotiate with the whole

block. In my opinion, the feedback

is coming from the wrong people.

That is why the government is

fractured. We have ministers on one

side saying we want a hard Brexit

and others saying we do not want it.

Other saying we will stay in the

customs union. We have Dominic Ryan

saying we want a hard Brexit. --

Dominic Raab. Boris Johnson promised

350 million coming back to the UK.

Where is it? The NHS is fractured,

the NHS is in shambles right now. We

have doctors, we need doctors, we

need nurses. We are telling people

you cannot come in the EU, we are

telling people you cannot come from

the developing countries, how will

we cope with the NHS?

Philip as just

tweeted saying I am sick and tired

of the national interest being held

hostage to the sectional infighting

of the Tory party. Stop Brexit now.

Is that the problem, Theresa May

cannot keep everybody happy, so

should she make a decision and stick

to it?

Yes, if you make the

decision, MPs can get behind her,

the country can get behind her and

she can go to the EU with something

solid and a deal can be achieved.

She needs to be bold.

It is more

politics, she needs to be a strong

leader because this is what the

country voted for so it is time for

her to stand up and then the country

can get behind her. Her Cabinet and

MPs can get behind her, at the

moment she is not showing enough

strength.

Issue strong enough to do

that if Boris Johnson and other

members of the Cabinet are saying

different things, you are shaking

your head?

MPs don't respect her

enough. She is going to say that and

they will go off and do whatever

they want as they have been doing.

There is no unity in the party.

Let's take an example of cricket, if

the whole team is trying to win,

they will win the game. But if one

player does not try, they will not

win the game. Theresa May may be

trying to win the game, but her

ministers are saying things, she's

saying something today and then her

ministers say something tomorrow.

You cannot win the game if somebody

picks up the bat and takes the ball

home.

If you ask grassroots members,

most of them are behind Theresa May.

They will say she is doing a

difficult job, a hard job and nobody

knows what is happening.

Those are

the party members, I am talking

about the Cabinet.

You are shaking

your head?

Jacob Rees Mogg, it is a

nail in the head every time he

speaks about this. Every time he

speaks on the EU issue, it is music

to my ears, he is the only one

making any sense. Theresa May is

scared of making a decision. Bali

she has made a decision about the

customs union. You say one thing but

do another, often with the

manifesto.

Who thinks Theresa May is

doing a good job, show of hands? He

was on show? Who think she is doing

a terrible job? OK. Do we think

amongst you guys as Tory voters,

supporters and activists, can she

see this out? If you read any of the

papers at the weekend there were

plots left, right and centre, so we

are told to get rid of her?

Can you

anything worse right now in a

fractured party, a leadership

election?

If we have a leadership

election, it would go to a general

election. Then Jeremy Corbyn would

be Prime Minister and nobody wants

that. We are unified behind the

Prime Minister staying in place.

We

have the paper Saint Boris Johnson

will be the Prime Minister, Michael

Gove will be the deputy and Amber

Rudd will be the Home Secretary, we

don't know.

You also had Jacob Riis

Mark as Chancellor of the Exchequer.

How can you be talking about Brexit

on the one hand and then a coup on

the other hand.

It is misleading the

public. It is the papers on a slow

news week while the Prime Minister

was in China.

It wasn't a slow news

week, was it?

Media speculation. The

papers want a story to put out. The

truth is, there are conservatives on

either side who are concerned about

certain aspects of the EU

negotiation. There are some people

who voted remain who might be

turning towards softer. Some

Brexiteers want the done but the

party is united behind Theresa May.

Michael Gove lead Boris Johnson down

a path and then we have the

infighting in the party again. Where

is the unification?

If you don't

think Theresa May is doing a

particularly good job and we hear

about these rumours constantly about

plotters, let's look at the names

being thrown around. Grace has

mentioned one, Jacob Riis McComish

he is the man for you?

Yes.

Why?

The

way he conducted himself. Blair said

are the peacemakers, Jacob. He has

got guts.

I think he has. My liking,

I think he is an excellent

parliamentarian and I think the rest

of Parliament love him on both

sides. But he is so socially

conservative, anti-abortion,

anti-gay marriage and anti-drug

reform. If we do have another

election young voters will not

appeal to him at all.

Jacob Rees

Mogg, I am an active party member,

but if Jacob Rees Mogg became leader

of the party, that would be the

trigger for me to my membership.

I

wouldn't go that far, he's a

gentleman, a lovely guy. His

policies... I think people make a

lot out of his social conservatives.

If you are Prime Minister I don't

think he would have a hard line.

That nuance would get through to the

media and people would see him as an

anachronism.

He is too socially

conservative people of my

generation, certainly for myself. At

the moment, I see no alternative to

Theresa May. I see the fact that the

Tory party will be fractured if we

have another leadership election as

it was in the 1990s over Europe.

That led to Tony Blair getting a

massive majority in 1997. With

Jeremy Corbyn being to the left of

Tony Blair, we cannot risk a Labour

government.

Let's look at other

names being touted as potential

leaders of the Conservative Party,

Boris Johnson? Not a safe pair of

hands. There was a sharp intake of

breath.

He says a lot of things and

he has got people in trouble. The

Iranians lady is in jail because of

the statement said by Boris Johnson

in a way.

He is too much of a loose

cannon?

Yes.

People liked him before

he was Foreign Minister but now

people are not back clean.

Would you

want him in charge? Not at all.

When

he was Mayor of London when he had

more freedom and could set his own

agenda, he was brilliant. But as a

Prime Minister, he would be very

constrained, couldn't bring out his

own personality. He will have to

work in a more collegiate

environment and I don't think he

would fit in that. I do think he

would connect with the public quite

well, but at the same time, do we

want to unleash the beast, as it

were?

Gavin Williamson, another

name?

I think he can do it. You need

someone strong who will keep the

party and the government together.

We saw him as Chief Whip and never

lost a vote. He is far enough away

from the Cabinet, not tarnished with

the incompetence we have seen in the

rest of the Cabinet. He is fresh and

could potentially do it.

could potentially do it.

I cannot

even remember who Gavin Williamson

is!

We will get a picture for you.

He is the Defence Secretary at the

moment.

Is he, OK.

Another name

being mentioned, Amber Rudd, a

female?

I think Amber Rudd, she is a

remain and grassroots members will

be sceptical about her and she has a

tiny majority in Hastings and I

think Labour will target their

resources into that seat.

People

throw around terms of one Nation,

Thatcherite, they are just

conservatives, they are terms people

use to divide us. She is a very good

Conservative, will follow the

Conservative manifesto. If she did

become the leader, I think she would

do a good job. I am behind Theresa

May, but Amber Rudd, but tensely for

the future.

She is very charismatic.

She connects with people on a

personal level.

What about Dan

Hannan?

He has personally said to

me, he will not be pursuing a career

in politics when Britain leaves the

EU when MEPs have to resign. I

really like him, I think he will

make a good Cabinet minister, but at

the same time, I am not sure.

Lot of

you getting in touch. Ben says this

Brexit programme has been

mismanaged. Ministers dodging and

lined with no answers to questions.

It is going to be a hard Brexit,

just wait and see. Another tweet

saying, without another customs

union what we do without the Irish

border. And Steve has treated, the

customs union is more than free

movement of goods, it is about

standards, said goods and safe

foods. Perhaps the hash tag biased

BBC should state the facts. That is

our intention, some people may

disagree. Thank you all for taking

the time out to speak to this

morning.

Coming up:

The Lloyds banking group has

banned its customers

from using their credit cards to buy

bitcoin and other

virtual currencies.

We'll find out why the bank thinks

eight million people could end up

running up debts they could never

repay.

More than half of former

professional sports people have had

concerns about their mental

or emotional wellbeing

since retiring.

That's according to a survey

which suggests one in two ex-players

of the 800 who responded

to the Professional Players'

Federation survey did not feel

in control of their lives within two

years of finishing their careers.

Retired athletes also told the BBC

they "lose their identity""

when they finish playing sport,

experiencing "loss",

"regret" and "devastation".

"I never want to sit

on a horse again.

I can't take it anymore".

The words of Royal Ascot winning

jockey George Chaloner

who was forced to retire at 25

after a number of bad falls.

He tells how although the injuries

heal relatively quickly,

it takes much longer to get over

the mental trauma.

This is his story.

It started when I was in hospital in

Newcastle.

Back around in front. Professor is

flying home.

Let's talk now to Paul Highton,

he's an ex-Salford City Reds

rugby league player.

He had three years of prescription

drug addiction, failed business

and suicidal thoughts

after retiring from playing.

One of his former team-mates

and close friends from his rugby

playing days didn't make it out

the otherside like him and is now

in jail following being

convicted for armed robbery.

This is his first TV interview

about his experiences.

Thank you so much for coming in.

When you went into rugby league it

was a time when the game was turning

professional and you decided to

leave your studies behind and focus

on the game, did that ever feel like

a gamble, a risk, in those early

days?

Not really. It was a child he

childhood dream. -- it was a

childhood dream. It was an easy

transition for me to jump into that.

As you said, I put my studies on the

back burner and it was always going

to be next season, I will start

studying next year and you get

wrapped up in a new contract. You

think everything is rosy for a few

years and towards the back end of

those careers, those contracts, you

think what is next.

What is that

point in your career? Literally as

you are heading

you are heading towards the end or

did you give it any thought before

that?

I started to consider it when

I had a pretty bad injury, broke my

arm and I was ample 16 weeks. It was

quite levelling. -- and I broke my

arm and I was out for 16 weeks. You

think you are a superhero but you

are not, you will eventually end

your career. My legs stopped being

as quick as they should have been.

The injuries will get you. I started

putting things in place, started

seeing people, who got to the end of

their careers with nothing. That is

not what I wanted to be.

Did you

have support from within the sport

to look ahead to what you might do

after your rugby career was over?

Back then there was very little.

There certainly wasn't the player

welfare manager role, which either

film now with Salford. There was

nothing like that. I got a pat on my

back, thanks to your efforts and

could luck with the next part of

your career. -- good luck with.

When

you had effectively retired from

rugby league and your contract

finished, is it quite frightening?

Presumably you have quite a

structured life as a sports person

and then you can do anything.

I

related quite a lot to the military.

Everyday I was told what top to

wear, shorts to work, what colour

socks, I was told my breakfast 's

was ready, the pills and potions

after a training session, protein.

Everything was done for you. When

away from you and you leave the

sport, is I found myself having to

deal with these things myself. That

bubble had gone. It is quite

frightening. I spent the best part

of 20 years with 30 of my best

friend and then you play your last

game on a Sunday and the money

morning I am sat on the sofa

thinking, is this it, what's next? I

set about business and took a lot of

my focus. 18 months down the line

when I took my eye off the ball,

that is when things got difficult.

What happened? I had quite a few

injuries.

I went through a period of

time. I was having things patched up

and I was taking something called

tramadol. At the time, that was

quite readily available in the

sport. It was easy to get hold of.

Quite easy to manipulate your club

doctor and your personal GP. I

started using those for everything

apart from what they were there for.

They used to chill me out, they

helped me sleep, it gave me

confidence. I was using them for the

wrong thing. Compared to what I

should have stayed on, it was almost

three years. It should have been two

months. It was spiralling from that

point. I tried to change where I was

thinking with the pills.

Was that

links to retirement?

I think so.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Maybe I have an addictive

personality, it doesn't matter if it

is a bag of midget gems or a strip

of tramadol, they went. Looking

back, you can join up the dots as

you look backwards. I certainly used

prescription. Drugs and other things

-- prescription drugs. To stop the

way I was feeling at the time.

Did

your family know?

They did. I

thought I was doing a great job of

hiding it. I have a really

supportive family. My partner at the

time. They had got wind of this.

They had understood and they made a

call to the rugby league which was

properly the best phone call they

could have made. To the head of

welfare. Within two or three days, I

was down talking to a guy from

sporting chance, Tony Adams. A

charity the looks at a sports people

with addictive disorders and

depression. I was sat in a hotel

room talking to a guy I had never

met before, telling him my darkest

secrets and it was the most

cathartic thing I have ever done.

Certainly the most worthwhile. I

would love to say life got perfect

from that point but it certainly

gave me clarity and some way of

fixing what was going on with

myself.

Do you think it is harder

for successful sportspeople to

accent is and say, openly, I can't

cope -- to accept and say.

It is

difficult. It is a man thing in

general. I do a lot of work with a

men's mental health charity called

Off-road, that is the theme, getting

men to open and be honest about the

way they feeling -- Off-load, that

is the theme. Players tell their

story and make this real. It puts

everything on a platform, mental

health doesn't discriminate. It

doesn't matter how big your bank

balance or your car is. Everyone has

mental health and some a better

mental health than other. It is

difficult for a rugby player, they

are perceived machismo kind of

thing, we don't show any emotions.

We are Warriors and that can only go

on for so long. The sport is doing

huge things around that at the

moment to get people to be honest

and open about the way they are

feeling.

Do you have a definitive

moment in your mind that you think

was your darkest moment? Where you

felt that you actually had to face

this.

I had wrapped up my business a

couple of months prior. Things were

not going well with the partner I

was with at the time. The only way I

felt I could sort this out was to do

it myself. That was a big mistake. I

moved out of home, I got myself

somewhere which would be my haven to

get my head sorted and it was just a

green light to continue doing what I

was doing because I had nobody

looking over my shoulder. I got to

the point where everybody hits their

own rock bottom, doesn't matter what

yours is, it's personal to you and I

got to the point where I was sick

and tired of being sick and tired.

And upsetting people and worrying my

family. It was time to do something

about it. That phone call to

Sporting Chance was the best thing

that could have ever happened to me.

Was it about filling your time after

retirement? Or is it about getting

those highs? That must be the

difficult thing, do have those

incredible highs. The celebrity, all

of that. Do you need to replicate

that or do you need to learn that

you can't replicate that and you

need to do something different?

It

is about learning you can't

replicate that but finding something

to replace that in terms of what

gives you purpose, pleasure and gets

you up in the morning. That was a

difficult thing. I use the term that

I still didn't know what I wanted to

be when I grew up. I got to the end

of my career and set up a supposed

abutment company but even that

didn't fulfil me in the way my

current role does. It just filled a

gap to speak and pay the bills. It

was very difficult going from doing

your most favourite thing in the

world, playing sport for 20 years

and trying to find something that

I'm going to do probably for twice

as long again. But wanting to enjoy

it again, that was difficult. That

loss of identity, structure, that

was something I really struggled

with.

Thank you.

And if you want help or support

for addiction and gambling issues -

you can find a list of information

on the BBC's action pages -

bbc.co.uk/actionline.

Let's get the latest

weather update with Lucy.

How much snow is there out there,

there have been warnings.

There

certainly have been warnings, yellow

weather warnings in place for today

and tomorrow. We have seen some snow

showers this morning. This week will

stay fairly wintry. Temperatures

stay involved with a widespread

frost and some snow at times. --

staying cold. A photo from a Weather

Watcher earlier, some snow in East

Sussex. Similarly wintry scenes sent

in. The majority of the snow this

morning has been in the south-east.

As we move through today, we will

start to see showers easing but they

will gradually drift west through

the day. Away from those showers,

there is a lot of dry weather, some

good spells of sunshine developing

as we move through the day. Brisk

north-easterly wind in the south

which will ease as we move through

the day that accentuate the fact

that the temperatures are not

particularly warm, mid-to single

figures for many of us. This evening

and overnight, the wind will pick up

ahead of this band of cloud and rain

that will push its way into Northern

Ireland and Scotland. Firstly

falling as rain and then sleet and

snow bringing snow for Northern

England, Wales and into the early

hours. Clearer skies, mostly dry and

it will be cold. One or two patches

of freezing fog in the Midlands.

Behind it, heavy wintry showers

feeding into the north-west. A cold

start tomorrow, a frosty start and

some of us seeing snow on the ground

first thing. It will start to edge

south as we move through the day,

breaking up as it does. It will

become light and patchy. Behind it,

bright intervals feeding in. Also,

heavy and potentially thundery and

wintry showers. In the south-east,

staying largely dry with some

brightness. Temperatures not feeling

very warm, maximum of four Celsius.

Tuesday evening, that band of snow

and sleet will reinvigorate. Across

East Anglia and parts of the

south-east continuing to see clearer

skies behind it. We are looking at

another cold and frosty night. The

weather front clears the south-east

as we move through the night into

Wednesday that already waiting in

the wings is the next weather front

bringing rain and the risk of snow.

Dry weather ahead of the weather

front. Some brightness although it

will turn increasingly cloudy from

the Northwest. Another chilly day.

Hello, it's 10:00am.

The UK insists it will lead the

customs union when it leaves the EU.

Is it enough to win Theresa May some

support with conservative voters?

Theresa May is scared of making a

decision. At least she has made a

decision about the customs union,

which is unusual for her.

Someone says this is the most

thankless period any Prime Minister

will face, catapulted into a job to

take us through the toughest period

this country will face. Also on the

programme...

They were marketed as holidays

without hassle but we've been told

that thousands of people

are finding their timeshares

too complex and too

costly to get out of.

I try to sell it, I tried to give it

away. Nobody wanted it because the

maintenance fees were going up and

up. We were also told, if there

comes a time when you don't want it

and you decide that is it, we will

buy it back from you.

More on our

exclusive story.

exclusive story. One man says he is

£20,000 out of pocket after spending

money on a time-share property in

Spain.

Is it worth getting a degree?

In a speech later today an MP

in charge of the education select

committee will say that

between a fifth and a third

of graduates are taking

on non-graduate jobs.

Good morning.

Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

with a summary of todays news.

Good morning.

A Downing street source has ruled

out the prospect of Britain staying

in any kind of European customs

union after Brexit.

The statement came after days

in which the strong supporters

of leaving had criticised

Theresa May for not taking

a stand on the issue.

The customs union allows goods made

in the EU to move around the bloc

without tariffs and with few checks,

but it prevents members

from striking their own free-trade

deals with other countries.

There's been a significant fall

in the number of new cars

being sold in the UK,

according to figures

released in the last hour.

Sales fell 6.3% in January,

down to 163,000 cars from 174,000

in the same month a year ago.

Most of the decline

was down to a large drop

in the demand for diesel cars.

Customers of the Lloyds banking

group have been banned

from using their credit cards to buy

virtual currencies such as bitcoin.

The decision affects all account

holders with Lloyds Bank,

Bank of Scotland, Halifax and MBNA.

The group says it's protecting

customers from running up debts

they could never repay.

A new ring-fenced tax to fund

the NHS and social care in England

has been proposed by a panel

of health experts.

The panel, set up by

the Liberal Democrats,

says the NHS in England should be

given an extra four billion pounds.

The government says it prioritsed

NHS funding at the last Budget,

providing £2 billion

for social care.

The sole surviving suspect

from the Paris terror attacks

of 2015 will go on trial

in Belgium today.

Salah Abdeslam, faces charges

relating to a shoot out he had

with police while on the run

in Belgium in 2016.

He faces a second trial relating

to his involvement in the Paris

attacks at a later date.

This programme has been told that

thousands of people desperate to get

out of their timeshare contracts

are currently unable

to because it is far

too complex and costly.

A time-share usually involves paying

a one-off lump sum in return

for being able to use the property

for an agreed number of weeks each

year, every year for life.

The actress, Kim Cattrall,

has confirmed her brother

has died unexpectedly,

hours after appealing to fans

for help in finding him.

The Sex and the City star

had posted a photograph

of Chris Cattrall on social media,

saying he'd disappeared

from his home in Alberta, Canada.

Canadian police say there's no

reason to believe his

death was suspicious.

The US reality TV star,

Kylie Jenner, confirmed

on Sunday that she has

given birth to a baby girl.

The 20-year-old was rumoured

to be expecting a child,

but had remained quiet

about her pregnancy.

Jenner announced on Instagram

that she had given birth

on the 1st of February.

She apologised for keeping her

followers and fans in the dark.

That's a summary of the latest BBC

News - more at 10.30.

Lots of you getting in touch this

morning about the Brexit

negotiations. It is a big week.

David Davis, the Brexit secretary

talking to Michel Barnier from the

U. We had a discussion with some

voters earlier on about what they

were making over the conversations.

Michelle has e-mailed saying it is

not good to criticise EU Theresa

May. Ken has treated, Jacob Rees

Mogg, I would find it easier to

believe he was a friend of Sherlock

Holmes or had invented the vacuum

cleaner than be Prime Minister.

Do get in touch with us

throughout the morning,

use the hashtag Victoria live

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Here's some sport now with Sarah.

Let's start with the Super Bowl,

where it was third time lucky

for the Philadelphia Eagles -

runners up in 1980 and 2004,

but the franchise finally

won their first Superbowl overnight.

And what an upset they caused,

their fans had taken to wearing dog

masks in the lead up to this,

such was the Eagles' underdog status

coming into this game.

But in a final that will go

down as one of the best,

they beat the favourites

and defending champions the

New England Patriots in Mineappolis.

Let's have a look at the touchdown

they're saying will be

shown a billion times.

Nick Foles, who led magnificiently

on the night, became the first

quarterback to throw and catch

touchdowns in Superbowl history.

He only came into the side

towards the end of the regular

season as an injury replacement.

I mean, that is what life is about

right there. We are super Bowl

champions, but time does stop when

you look at your daughter's eyes and

you get to celebrate this moment. I

get to look my wife's eyes. My wife

has been there through everything,

my family has been there to

everything and to be in this moment,

celebrate this moment, that is what

it is about. I am just grateful.

And if the football is not your

thing, there's always the half time

show for entertainment.

This year it was Justin Timberlake

wowing the crowds.

The 12-minute performance included

a tribute to Prince,

he ended up in the middle

of the crowd.

Where this 13-year-old may just be

the most popular person

in his school today,

bagging a selfie with the star.

And while it doesn't take long

to find that selfie online.

Ryan McKenna the lucky 13-year-old

and it seems the internet has

fallen in love with him.

#selfiekid seemed to be his twitter

name and now many are calling him

the Superbowl's MVP in place

of quarterback Nick Foles.

What a start to the Six

Nations this weekend,

Wales with a stunning victory over

Scotland and the last minute drop

goal for Ireland to steal

the win against France

on Saturday, and then yesterday

it was England's turn

as they began their defence

of the title.

And it went pretty well.

They ran in seven tries for a bonus

point win over Italy in Rome.

A nice Six Nations debut for

Sam Simmonds though with two tries..

Worry for Ben Youngs,

the scrum half stretchered off

early with a knee injury.

46-15 the final score in Rome.

In the women's Six Nations -

England put in a huge

performance yesterday,

beating Italy 42-7.

England Captain Sarah Hunter went

over for a hat-trick of tries

helping the defending champions

secure the bonus point.

Finally, Chelsea can go third if

they win at Watford tonight. There

was a dramatic finish at Anfield.

Totten substitute, Victor Wanyama,

smashed home this. Mo Salah popped

up again in stoppage time to score

what looked like a Liverpool win but

there was time for a second Spurs

penalty. The referee deemed this

foul on Erik Lamela.