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-On the Penywaun estate -at the head of the Cynon Valley... | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
-..Ysgol Rhydywaun -has now been open for 20 years. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
-It's the only -Welsh-medium secondary school... | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
-..for pupils from Merthyr Tydfil -and the Cynon Valley. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
-But how many of those educated here -use the language after leaving? | 0:00:17 | 0:00:22 | |
-Tonight, -I go back to my old school... | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
-..along with another former pupil, -rugby international Andrew Coombs. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:31 | |
-Do you speak Welsh with any of them? | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
-Do you speak Welsh with any of them? - -I see a couple of former classmates. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
-But we hardly ever speak Welsh, -except to start the conversation. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:41 | |
-But that's as far -as some of them can go. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
-He's touring the Valleys... | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
-..to see how many of his school -friends still use the language. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
-I can understand -everything in Welsh... | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
-..but getting the words out -takes time, and I find it difficult. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:02 | |
-Our questionnaire tests -what effect Ysgol Rhydywaun has... | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
-..on the Welsh language -in the Valleys. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
-Nelson RFC, near Caerphilly. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
-Andrew Coombs -first played rugby on this pitch. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
-This is also -where I played as a child. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
-Andrew now has ten caps for Wales... | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
-..and helped the team -win the Six Nations title in 2013. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:38 | |
-Over a decade since we last spoke, -we're back at our home club... | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
-..to see how he feels -about the Welsh language by now. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
-How much Welsh do you speak -since leaving school? | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
-At first, not much, to be honest. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
-In the past couple of years... | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
-..I've started learning Welsh again, -having let it go. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
-What made you change your mind -and want to pick Welsh up again? | 0:01:58 | 0:02:03 | |
-A couple of things. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:05 | |
-My son started -at Ysgol Bro Allta in Ystrad Mynach. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
-When I went into the Wales squad, -a lot of people spoke Welsh. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
-I tried to speak Welsh there, -and I found it difficult. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
-That's when I realized -how bad my Welsh was. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
-That was the first time that a lot -of people had spoken Welsh to me... | 0:02:22 | 0:02:27 | |
-..and I couldn't talk Welsh back. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
-It was embarrassing, to be honest. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
-Andrew has made his mark... | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
-..as a tough and powerful forward -with the Gwent Dragons. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
-He has captained the region... | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
-..and has now played 86 times -for the Newport side. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
-This morning, he's training -with his teammate, Matthew Pewtner. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:52 | |
-Great. Finish it off. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:54 | |
-Matthew comes from Blackwood and -attended Ysgol Gymraeg Cwm Rhymni. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:03 | |
-Right, Matthew, we're in Ystrad -Mynach, where the Dragons train. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
-Not much Welsh -is spoken in the camp. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
-Why don't we speak it to each other? | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
-Why don't we speak it to each other? - -We don't speak much Welsh, do we? | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
-I think it would be a good thing... | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
-..if we could speak it more. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
-You and I and at least two or three -others here can speak Welsh. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:28 | |
-We don't speak it often... | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
-..but it would be good -if we did more often in future. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
-There may not be much Welsh -heard in the Dragons ranks... | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
-..but the 'Men of Gwent' -speak more than just English. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
-We have a couple -of South African players. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
-I think I hear more Afrikaans -than I do Welsh. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
-When we sit down upstairs -to have our food... | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
-..the South African lads speak -their own language to each other. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
-To be honest, -it's nice to see them using it. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
-It would be even nicer... | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
-..to see us speaking Welsh -with each other. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
-Andrew and I grew up in Quakers Yard -in Merthyr Tydfil county. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:17 | |
-For those who want -Welsh-medium education... | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
-..the only option locally -is Ysgol Rhydywaun near Aberdare. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:25 | |
-Today, we follow the familiar route -of the school bus to Rhydywaun. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
-How much Welsh -did you actually speak at school? | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
-Not a lot, to be honest, Gwyn. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
-Most of my friends spoke English. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
-I played with the naughty boys -most of the time! | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
-I played with boys -who usually spoke English. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
-Rugby on the yard, -football, that kind of thing. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
-Always in English, to be honest. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
-Your nephew's at Rhydywaun now. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
-Your nephew's at Rhydywaun now. - -Yes, but he's the same. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
-I never speak Welsh to Josh -when I see him. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
-Most of the time, we speak English. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
-That's something -I'm going to change. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
-Josh is his brother's son... | 0:05:10 | 0:05:11 | |
-..and he's waiting to meet us -at the school. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
-Josh, it's a bit odd to be back -at school and to see you here. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
-It's also odd to speak Welsh to you. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
-When you come to my house, -we usually speak English, don't we? | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
-Yes. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:29 | |
-What about at school? Do you -speak Welsh with your friends? | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
-No, not a lot. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
-Only in class, -when the teachers are listening. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
-You get a row -if they hear you speak English. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
-Why do you think you don't -speak Welsh with your friends... | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
-..either in school -or out on the yard? | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
-There isn't a lot -to talk about in Welsh. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
-I know more English words -than Welsh words. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
-You say that there isn't -a lot to talk about. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
-Can you discuss football in Welsh? | 0:06:01 | 0:06:02 | |
-Can you discuss football in Welsh? - -Yes, but I choose not to. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
-I don't want to. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:06 | |
-I don't want to. - -Is everyone the same as you? | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
-Or are you the only one -who speaks English? | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
-No, everyone's like me. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
-No-one speaks Welsh -on the yard or anything. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
-Through rugby, Andrew has kept -in touch with his old PE teachers. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
-They were proud to see him -using his Welsh on TV recently. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:28 | |
-When you leave school, you think -you'll never use Welsh again. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
-I think that's why I let it go. -The lack of chances to speak it. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
-Now, the opportunities are coming, -and I'm improving all the time. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:42 | |
-Certainly, the language -does give you an advantage. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:47 | |
-You play rugby and give interviews. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
-There's a big pool -of English speakers. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
-There are fewer Welsh speakers, -and that can open doors. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:58 | |
-What's nice where you're concerned, -is that you use Welsh naturally. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:04 | |
-You do come across -as confident and happy. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:09 | |
-You know, you're quite... | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
-You're relaxed speaking Welsh -in your own natural dialect. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
-You're a good role model -for children. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
-Don't worry about studying Welsh, -just use it. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
-Andrew has agreed to take -a training session with Year 7. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
-He wants to see -whether they use Welsh on the field. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
-We'll have three passing drills... | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
-..following on -from what Mr Francis did. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
-Passing is important in rugby. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
-Although he helps -train children in Nelson... | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
-..this is his first time -coaching in Welsh. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
-Lots of tempo, and more noise! | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
-After checking their rugby skills, -what about their linguistic skills? | 0:07:52 | 0:07:58 | |
-When I was at school... | 0:07:59 | 0:08:00 | |
-..I never spoke Welsh -on the field or on the yard. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
-Not much Welsh was spoken. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
-Walking through the school today, -I still hear English spoken... | 0:08:07 | 0:08:12 | |
-..and on the field now, -when you were playing. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
-How many of you -speak Welsh outside class? | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
-Everyone speaks it in class. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
-How many speak Welsh outside class? | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
-Be honest. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:26 | |
-Half and half. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:27 | |
-Half and half. - -Half and half? | 0:08:27 | 0:08:28 | |
-In and out? | 0:08:28 | 0:08:29 | |
-I speak Welsh at home. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
-When you're at school, why is it -you don't speak Welsh all the time? | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
-Because it's difficult? | 0:08:37 | 0:08:38 | |
-If you try, -everyone else turns to English. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
-Only about 3% of Rhydywaun's pupils -come from Welsh-speaking homes. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:50 | |
-Andrew says that it isn't easy... | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
-..for the language to battle -against the tide in the area. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
-I like to hear Welsh being spoken. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
-It's special. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:05 | |
-But it's not natural for them. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:07 | |
-It can be hard. They don't -know the words, just like me. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
-In part two, we follow Andrew -as he meets up with school friends. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:19 | |
-Do you use Welsh? | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
-Do you use Welsh? - -No, not at all. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
-I don't need to, really. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:26 | |
-And our questionnaire reveals -how many of his former classmates... | 0:09:27 | 0:09:32 | |
-..still use the language -at the age of 30. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
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-Rugby player, Andrew Coombs... | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
-..is on a journey -to meet some of the people... | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
-..who went to school with him. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
-Since leaving Ysgol Rhydywaun -at 16... | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
-..he's lost touch -with most of his school friends. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
-Tonight, -he's meeting one close friend. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
-What do you want, Huw? | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
-Strongbow Dark Fruits, please. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
-Huw Jones -was a year above Andrew at school. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
-He now works as a carpenter. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
-He coaches the Nelson rugby team -where Andrew started his career. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
-It's nice to see you, Huw. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
-I know I see you often but -we've met up today to talk in Welsh. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:30 | |
-We don't usually communicate -in Welsh. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
-Do you use your Welsh at home -with the family or other friends? | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
-No, I don't... | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
-..use it as much -as perhaps I should have. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
-Yeah. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:49 | |
-I see one or two people -who do speak Welsh. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
-I try to speak Welsh with them. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:55 | |
-I don't use it as much as I should. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
-Do any of your school friends -speak Welsh at home? | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
-Do you know how their Welsh is now? | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
-I don't have much of a clue. I'm -friends with one or two on Facebook. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
-When you speak to them personally... | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
-When you speak to them personally... - -..yeah, everything's in English. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
-I know that you like to sing -in Welsh, Huw. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
-Is that right? | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
-I can belt out Yma O Hyd -by Dafydd Iwan. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
-You like Sosban Fach -as a Scarlets supporter. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
-I'm a big fan of the Scarlets. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:30 | |
-I'm a big fan of the Scarlets. - -You like singing that to me. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
-All the time! | 0:11:32 | 0:11:33 | |
-# Little saucepan # -There you go. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
-Huw was a pupil -at Rhydywaun for five years. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
-He rarely uses Welsh these days. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
-He has two little girls but hasn't -sent them to a Welsh school... | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
-..as his wife doesn't speak Welsh. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
-I can see how hard it is -to speak Welsh... | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
-..when you haven't used it -for so long. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
-That's what I was like -a few years ago. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
-I may have been worse than Huw was. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
-For someone who hasn't spoken the -language for so long, he did well. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
-I wanted to know how much Welsh... | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
-..former Rhydywaun pupils -use after leaving school. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
-I wrote a survey to send -to those in Andrew's school year. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
-69 of the 103 -who started at Rhydywaun in 1996... | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
-..responded online -or over the phone. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
-None of the respondents -said they couldn't speak Welsh. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
-Only one person said -they only knew a few words by now. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
-43% said they could chat -but not about complicated things. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:47 | |
-A little over half, 56%, described -themselves as fluent Welsh speakers. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:53 | |
-In Aberdare, Andrew meets -one of those fluent in Welsh. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:59 | |
-Bethan Jenkins is now a teacher -at Ysgol Gyfun Cymer Rhondda. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
-Your parents are both Welsh -speakers, my parents are not. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
-Do you still speak Welsh at home? | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
-Yes, I still speak Welsh at home. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
-I still live at home at present. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
-We still speak Welsh day to day. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
-What about friends? Do you speak -to your old school friends in Welsh? | 0:13:18 | 0:13:23 | |
-I'm still in touch with some people. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
-We speak Welsh. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:26 | |
-We speak Welsh. - -That's good. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
-I see people I know in Asda -and so on and we don't speak Welsh. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
-What about -back when you were at school? | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
-Do you remember -how much Welsh you spoke back there? | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
-To be honest, a lot of people -didn't speak Welsh at school. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
-I was one of them. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:43 | |
-A few of us -spoke Welsh to each other. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
-In lessons and so on, -we rarely spoke Welsh at school. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
-I speak more Welsh since leaving -school and going to college. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
-Is it the same now? You teach -at a Welsh-language school. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
-Yes, I do. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:58 | |
-How do you find it now? Do you see -more people speaking Welsh? | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
-To be honest, I think it's an issue -across all of South Wales. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
-Welsh isn't cool for kids to speak. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
-It's hard to get them -to speak Welsh in school. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
-Bethan is one of 38% -who replied to our survey... | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
-..who say they speak Welsh daily. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
-15% of respondents -said they spoke it weekly. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
-38% said they used it occasionally. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
-10% said they never speak Welsh. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
-Ian Jenkins is one of that 10%. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
-He was a close friend of Andrew's -at school. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
-They played rugby together -for Nelson and Newport. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:48 | |
-Today, Andrew is meeting him -at Bargoed Golf Club. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
-Ian is a member there. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
-Ian, it's nice to see you. -I haven't seen you for a while. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
-Do you use much -of your Welsh any more? | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
-No, not at all, really. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
-My wife speaks Welsh but I don't... | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
-My wife speaks Welsh but I don't... - -You don't speak Welsh at home. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
-You've got two small children. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
-Yes, I've got Gracie, she's four... | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
-..and Olivia, who is two. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
-Both the children -go to an English school. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:26 | |
-That's where we live. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
-There are two reasons for that. -One of them is convenience. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:34 | |
-The school is across the road -from where we live. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:40 | |
-The other one -is if she has homework... | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
-..we can't help if it's in Welsh. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
-As a parent, you want the best -for your child, really. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
-We want the best. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
-If they don't understand something, -we want to help. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:04 | |
-Your wife, Cerys, -went to Ysgol Rhydfelen. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
-You don't really speak much Welsh -with her at home. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
-No, not at all. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
-There's no need, really. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
-If we do speak Welsh... | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
-..mostly, we think it's funny... | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
-..and doesn't sound right. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
-It isn't natural, is it? | 0:16:30 | 0:16:31 | |
-It isn't natural, is it? - -No, it isn't. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
-Jamie Bevan comes from Merthyr. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
-He went to Rhydfelen -before Rhydywaun opened. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
-He is the current Chair -of the Welsh Language Society. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
-He thinks that the results -of our survey are positive... | 0:16:47 | 0:16:52 | |
-..despite the fact that 10% -never use the language any more. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
-Your survey shows -that the majority of those... | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
-..who were educated in Welsh still -use the language to some extent. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
-A very small proportion -don't use Welsh at all. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
-I don't think -that Andrew's school year... | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
-..was very different to mine. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
-A lot of us -came from non-Welsh-speaking homes. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
-A lot of us left school... | 0:17:23 | 0:17:24 | |
-..and didn't use Welsh again -for many years. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
-Once you realise that Welsh -doesn't belong to the school... | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
-..you start building networks... | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
-..to use your Welsh -in all walks of life. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
-But, there was one more part -to the survey. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
-Before finishing... | 0:17:41 | 0:17:42 | |
-..I asked the former pupils to leave -comments about the Welsh language. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
-According to one -prominent consultant... | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
-..those comments add meat to -the bones of the preceding answers. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
-"I use my Welsh with my -daughters who attend a Welsh school. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
-"I speak a little every day." | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
-"I speak more Welsh -since my son has started at school. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
-"He brings home Welsh books -and I help out." | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
-"I'm so happy -that I continued to speak Welsh. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
-"I'm learning foreign languages..." | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
-"I speak more Welsh than ever. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
-"I feel more comfortable -showing that I speak Welsh. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
-"It's very useful -working as a doctor." | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
-"I've lost confidence -speaking Welsh. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
-"I'd like to do an evening course -to gain more confidence." | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
-"Conversation can be tricky." | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
-"I know I can get it back." | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
-Cefin Campbell is an expert -on linguistic planning. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
-He's amazed at how positive -the survey's results are. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:45 | |
-He does say they need -to be handled carefully. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
-There needs to be a warning -with any survey you send out. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:53 | |
-There's always a danger that they -give the answers you want to hear. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:59 | |
-You have to be careful with that. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
-Putting that to one side... | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
-..I still think -these are very heartening results. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:09 | |
-He feels the respondents' comments -say more than the figures. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
-It's heartening that a lot of them -say they use Welsh at work. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:22 | |
-Either as teachers -or teaching assistants. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
-For them, Welsh has been -an economic advantage. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
-The most interesting thing -in all the answers... | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
-..is also the most worrying -for me. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
-It's the number of parents... | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
-..who use the language more -with their children now... | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
-..because they've started -at Welsh schools. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
-It's great that their children -are going to Welsh-medium schools. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:56 | |
-However, it demonstrates... | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
-..that their use of Welsh -with their children is occasional. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:03 | |
-Welsh isn't spoken on the hearth -in these homes, on the whole. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:09 | |
-So the language -isn't transferred to the children. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
-What's the answer to that? | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
-There are a number of ideas -the Welsh Government could adopt. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:22 | |
-I think there's a challenge there. -It's a priority. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
-The Chair of the Welsh Language -Society is pushing the government... | 0:20:29 | 0:20:34 | |
-..to give more opportunities for -Welsh speakers in the South East. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
-As you've raised in this programme, -Welsh isn't relevant... | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
-..to children who come from -non-Welsh-speaking homes. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
-That doesn't mean -Welsh-language education has failed. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
-What's failing -is government policies. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
-They are meant to bolster -Welsh-medium education. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
-I think there's much more -the government could do... | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
-..like strengthen the -Welsh Language Act to support that. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
-Christine Chapman is the Assembly -Member for the Cynon Valley. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
-She isn't a cabinet member. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
-She has represented Labour -in Cardiff Bay since 1999. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
-The comments -at the end of the survey... | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
-..show Welsh hasn't become -the first language in many cases. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
-Is enough being done -by your Labour government? | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
-I was very heartened by the survey. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
-It is about encouraging Welsh -to be spoken in the communities. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
-This is what Welsh Government -is focusing in on now. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
-It's not just about -the language of the home. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
-It should be in employment as well. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
-I'm seeing changes actually. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
-There's a lot more to be done. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
-But there's generally a much more -proactive approach to it now. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
-Andrew Coombs sends his six-year-old -son to a Welsh school. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
-What do you like to eat -for breakfast? | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
-Toast and apple juice. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
-Apple juice? | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
-He's happy the survey shows... | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
-..that the majority of his -school year still use the language. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
-I'm a little surprised that so many -people say they still speak Welsh... | 0:22:16 | 0:22:21 | |
-..and that they -use the language every day. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
-Despite English -being the language at home... | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
-..Andrew says he does -try to speak Welsh with Ollie. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
-He hopes his son -will see a value to the language... | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
-..growing up in the Valleys. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
-It's important to me that Ollie -uses his Welsh when he grows up... | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
-..and that he continues to use -his Welsh when he leaves school. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
-That would be very nice to hear. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
-There isn't much Welsh used -in the Valleys. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
-If people like me and Ollie -use more Welsh... | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
-..maybe that will push -other people... | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
-..to use the language -outside school too. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
-Next week, -after Tata Steel's announcement... | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
-..that almost 1,000 jobs -will be lost in Wales... | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
-..we look at the effect -in the Port Talbot area. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
-We ask what's the future -for communities... | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
-..that are home -to the heavy industries? | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
-Y Byd ar Bedwar, -next Tuesday at 9.30pm on S4C. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
-S4C Subtitles by Testun Cyf. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
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