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On behalf of the commission, a few words on world press Freedom Day,

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which we celebrate today. Democracy can only work with free and

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independent media, freedom of expression is a fundamental value of

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threats of violence against threats of violence against

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journalists and media professionals. This is why we have the EU human

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rights guidelines for freedom of expulsion online and off-line.

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That's why we support the continued into mentation as a high

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representation in the statement published yesterday. Wherever

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necessary, we must act to defend media freedom, this is a challenge

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for everybody, media professionals, European and national authorities,

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media companies and citizens. We will continue to do whatever we can

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to help. And the final housekeeping point, as

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you know, we had yesterday the Commissioner on Visa represents

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. We will have tomorrow the derivatives files, so I think we

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have covered the whole of the commission agenda, so there will be

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no proper read-out session today. Our spokes officers will help you

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with enquiries in the course of the day. At 2:30, we will have a

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president together with the Prime Minister of Estonia for press

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points. Without further ado. I give the floor to Michel Barnier.

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Thank you and good morning to all of you. I am very pleased to be with

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you today. As you know, I have asked for a technical briefing just after

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my press conference with my deputies, my principal adviser, the

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Cabinet of the president, to go into detail on the directive.

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Since my first statement in this press room five months ago, we have

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worked a lot with Jean-Claude Juncker and his team, and the

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members of the commission, with President Donald Tusk and his team,

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with member states, the European Parliament, and national

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parliaments. I and my team have met with representatives of the business

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community, in each member state, trade unions and civil society, and

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we will continue. Our hard work paid off. The result of our collective

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work is what happened last Saturday, the 27 leaders and president of the

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three institutions showing their unity by agreeing on clear

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guidelines for the negotiation. Today, the commission proposes a

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recommendation that translates the guidelines into negotiating

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directives. In line with the two phase approach, these directives are

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for the first phase of negotiations only. Our recommendation shows where

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we want to land when we conclude the first phase of negotiations. This

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will be on citizens rights, the financial settlement and the new,

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external borders. I will pay great attention to the situation in

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Ireland, and I will go into Ireland next week. The UK must put great

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energy and thought into these three issues over the next weeks and

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months. This will increase the chances of reaching a deal. Some

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have created the illusion that Brexit will have no material impact

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on our lives. Or that negotiations can be concluded quickly, and

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painlessly. This is not the case. We need sound solutions, we need

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legal precision, and this will take time.

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Once again, there is no punishment. There is no Brexit Bill. The

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financial settlement is only about settling the accounts.

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Ladies and gentlemen, these negotiations will be extraordinary.

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They are the source of concern for many, many citizens and many

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organisations. We need to respond by being transparent. This is why we

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are publishing today our recommendation for the councils. We

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will be transparent throughout the process. Transparency can help

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sustain a constructive, public debate and in the negotiations,

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which will be, in any case difficult, I think that you should

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always remain cool-headed and solution orientated. We should put

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all our efforts towards reaching a deal. This is the spirit in which I,

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with the trust of the institutions and all member states, will continue

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working. The EU 27 is on track to make sure

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that the UK's withdrawal happens in an orderly fashion. The UK's

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decision to leave the European Union union has now caused ten months of

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uncertainty. We need to remove that uncertainty. It is high time to

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start negotiating, as soon as the UK is ready to come to the table we

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shall start negotiating. The clock is ticking. And I am ready now to

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answer your questions. Before we start, there will...

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Please keep technical comments for colleagues who are here, and let's

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try different questions, not repeat ourselves. Let's start. They will be

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able to answer the technical questions.

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TRANSLATION: Guarantees which we have provided together with the

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European investment bank and macro economic assistance to countries

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such as Ukraine. This all has to be tarted up. We have entered into

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rigorous and objective work, that should be incontestable and will

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have to take account of the commitment of the past. I cannot

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understand why I hear mention of punishment about the Brexit Bill,

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that is not the case. Commitments have been made and those commitments

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have to be honoured. Those responsibilities have to be

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honoured. Some moments ago I made an important point. Imagine for one

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moment what would happen were this not to happen. I want to reach an

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agreement on behalf of the 27, and I said in front of the committee of

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the region is what I see as the conditions for that agreement. We're

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not trying to create problems, we wish to resolve problems. The way to

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resolve a problem is to be objective and rigorous in our approach, not to

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be overdramatic. We have to be rigorous in our approach to clearing

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these accounts, otherwise the situation might be explosive, if we

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have to stop programmes can you imagine the political problems which

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might arise? On the question relating to the Court of Justice,

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Article 50 and the agreement which we are going to construct makes

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reference to the right of the union to protect the rights of our

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citizens. To name one example, if we brace ourselves on these rights

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being protected under union law, it will quite clearly be the Court of

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Justice, which is and competent to interpret these rights for the

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duration of the validity of such rights which means this will

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continue to be the case well after the date of the withdrawal of the

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UK. TRANSLATION: Thank you for giving me

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the floor. There were some leaks in a German newspaper this week about

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the so-called, the dinner of discord between Juncker and May, what you

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think of that? Do you think letting this rather poisonous atmosphere

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enter means it will derail quickly? I have a mission. I am the union's

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negotiator. And that's been clear since Saturday. Total unity and a

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very clear line of the European very clear line of the European

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Council, that's what's clear to me. We know what we're going to be

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putting on the table during these negotiations, and that's the table

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I'll be sitting round. We will wait, we will listen very carefully to

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what the British, when they're ready, will be putting on the table,

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and we'll see where we can find some common ground. That's the table

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where I, as a negotiator, will be focusing, and I'll be focusing on

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facts, figures, laws and solutions, and I won't be guided by emotions

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and hostility. That's what I can say. The European Council is very

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clear: we must make as much progress as possible, as quickly as possible,

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no windowdressing, sufficient progress in the negotiation, so that

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we can get to the second phase, the scoping of the relationship, as and

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when that's possible. That's my job, for the commission, for the Council,

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with the with the European Council Parliament over the next few months.

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As soon as the United Kingdom is ready to come to that table, we will

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start. That's what I can say, and I can say it very clearly.

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I am with the Wall Street Journal. From this mandate it is clear that

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you are not going to touch on any transitional arrangements for the

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future relationship, and based on what Mrs May said over the weekend,

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she wants a deal that encompasses all of that before the financial

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settlement. What will you tell the UK side, if they bring up these

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issues, that you are not mandated to talk about them, or will you engage

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in any probing discussions on that? TRANSLATION: Firstly, we have

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already done a great deal of work with the European Council, the

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council, the teams of President Tusk and our own departments on the

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substance of these negotiating directives, which we now have on the

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table. I'm not altogether surprised therefore by the content and the

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limits of this mandate. And let me tell you why. Because I think that

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one of the conditions are having an orderly withdrawal is to be just

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that, orderly. Time is short, it is very short. Time is ticking and the

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days are going by, and if we wish to make a success of this we have do

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succeed in an orderly fashion. We have to resolve and deal calmly with

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difficult questions without being overly theatrical or dramatic. Were

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we not to do that, this could compromise the outcome of the

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negotiations on Article 50. Now, of course, I hope that in October 2018,

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as far as the divorce, we will have an agreement on the orderly

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withdrawal, the various questions we see as priorities, then we will have

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the definition of transitional periods. As I said in my first

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statement to you, the nature of any transitional period will, of course,

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depend very much and will govern our future relationship. There is a

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question of the free trade agreement, but this is not to be

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discussed immediately. We have to firstly proceed to establish a solid

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basis, establishing a climate of confidence between the UK and EU 27

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before we can proceeds come as the heads of government and state asked

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us to. TRANSLATION: Good day to you, Mr

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Barnier. The 27 heads of state of government have put often referred

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to you when it comes to point X in time, where you will judge if

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progress has been enough on the three first issues to move to the

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second stage. Everyone is referring to you, Mr Barnier. So give us more

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information, how will you judge when things have moved enough, and the

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results have been obtained so you can propose to the European Council

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that they move on to that second stage? TRANSLATION: Those who

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referred you to me probably did so because it would be my

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responsibility. When we've moved forward enough, it may be a bit

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ambitious but I hope it will be in the autumn, I don't know, October,

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November first I hope that I will be able to say clearly and objectively

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that there is sufficient progress. I said earlier on, it's not going to

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be windowdressing. These are going to be clear commitments on which

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we've reached agreement on some basic principles, on the principles

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of the three sectors where the decision of the United Kingdom to

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leave the European Union has created ten months of complete uncertainty

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for four million-plus citizens on either side of the Channel. And not

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forgetting Ireland. Beneficiaries of European funds, etc, and the

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question of borders. So no windowdressing. A clear agreement on

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principles. The methodology for that financial settlement, clear

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intervals, non-discrimination and continuity of rights for citizens.

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So, I can't tell you at what point, the negotiations haven't started, I

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can't tell you at what point we will know when we have reached that stage

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when I can talk of sufficient progress. But on citizens rights,

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for example, I can explain that sufficient agreement would mean that

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you'd agreed on the cut-off date, I think we're calling which is the

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date where the UK officially withdraws. The rights are covered,

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the individuals, the individuals who are covered, the duration during

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which rights are guaranteed. And I said, for the whole of their life.

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The way those rights are guaranteed... For budget questions,

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it will be in agreement on a specific methodology. As many member

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states want, that will have to be clear and firm. It won't be one that

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can be reopened, in terms of the principles. The idea being, of

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course, that you are guaranteeing that you've done the groundwork. I

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say this calmly, that you're in good conditions to start the second

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phase. We shouldn't start the second phase, the scoping, the transitional

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arrangements and a climate of mistrust and uncertainty.

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Good morning. The difficulties, the differences over dinner the other

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day, the settlement of the commitments, are you considering,

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have you discussed or are you preparing a plan B in case

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negotiations fail? Also, if you can give us an estimate of how much will

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be included in this Bill. A figure was given, 60 billion, it could be

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80 billion, it could be 100 billion. In order to be objective, my team

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and myself, with the assistants of all the commission services, I would

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like to thank President Juncker for having allowed me to work together

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with the commission services and all commissioners from the outset. With

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these honoured colleagues, we are working on all options. But the

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option I wish to work on is agreement, that is the objective

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towards which we are working, the objective of an agreement between

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the UK and the EU. An agreement on Brexit, and orderly withdrawal on

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the nature and the limited duration of transitional periods, and what I

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called a new partnership built on a number of elements, free and fair

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trade relationship, and of course, bilateral cooperation between the

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United Kingdom and ourselves on questions of a security and defence,

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to ensure the stability of the European continent, which requires

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joint work together with the British. I don't wish to give any

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figures today. I can't, because I don't know what the figures are.

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Various estimates have been circulating. We have to clear the

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accounts of the past. The obligations of the past, that is

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clear. Since you are all confident and well informed journalists, I am

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sure you can undertake your own calculations whilst looking at past

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agreements. We will be precise methodology, but we cannot give any

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definitive figures, because I would like to point out that life will be

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continuing in the union between October and the withdrawal of the

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UK. Commitments will continue to be entered into, and we have two ensure

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the guarantees to be given within the budget. There is a further

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element which is important to the UK and ourselves, that is the way in

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which these payments will be disbursed over time. The sexual link

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of -- scheduling of the payments. On this question as others, there are

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differing positions are emerging during the dinner to which you

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refer, which I participated in. Good morning Mr Barnier. You just said,

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stressing the fact we should have no illusions about a painless Brexit.

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You stress the fact that the clock is ticking and it is high time to

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start negotiations. You stress this so much, is it because you don't see

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this awareness in London at the moment?

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No, it's because it is my responsibility as a negotiator to

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say that. Six months ago or so, I was given this job by President

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Juncker. I came back to Brussels, I got to look at the detail, because

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that's what I do. I looked at all of the policies that the British have

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chosen, because it is their choice to leave completely, partly. And I'm

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impressed by the complexity of the whole thing, legally, technically

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and in terms of the consequences, it is very, very complicated. I said

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here, one of the first things I said when I got the job, there will be

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consequences. Those who pretend, or who did pretend, that you can leave

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the European Union and there are no consequences simply aren't telling

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the truth. Their argument consequences. There are social

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consequences. There are economic consequences, technical

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consequences, financial, legal consequences, you are on winding 43

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years or so of a relationship -- unwinding. That's why you can't do

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everything in 15-16 months before October. That's why things have to

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be done in a given order. At some stage, you build an idea of a future

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relationship. Honestly, I get the feeling that, on the London side,

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the people I have met are aware of the difficulties.

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You have a microphone next to you. UK journalist for ITV News, thank

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you for letting me ask this question. In terms of the

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negotiations ahead, if Theresa May wins the general election in Britain

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in the way that polls suggest, will it weaken your hand in negotiations,

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Mr Barnier? Of course, I am not going to make

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any comment on UK domestic politics. To be objective, the only thing I

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can say is that a new government following the elections, which

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Theresa May called early. This new government as of the 8th of June

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will have a certain longevity and stability for five years, which is

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not the case for the current government. That is an important

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point, and if you ask me for my evaluation, irrespective of the

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government and office that we are going to be entering negotiations

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which will take 16 months, I hope to gain an agreement on Brexit. And

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afterwards, we will continue to enter into treaties on our future

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relations. You have to be given the floor and

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there are no follow up questions on a day like this. Thank you so much.

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Yes, from the centre. Sorry. We cannot hear you because you are not

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being translated. All I can say is that I don't wish

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to make any comments on the new British Government after the

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elections, and the spirit in which they will work. But these elections

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will not change anything with regard to the position and determination of

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the repealing union is confirmed today, taking the shape of my

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negotiating directives without any aggressiveness or naivete, we shall

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defend the interests of the 27 member states of the union and the

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single market. That is my role. I have a question on citizen rights.

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As you said yourself, and also President Juncker and president

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task, this is a serious issue for the families, hundreds of thousands

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of people. I understand with the people that live in the UK, they can

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do nothing. They already lived there, Bay had to wait for the

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going to the UK and working there, going to the UK and working there,

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can you tell them with full confidence that they can go there,

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begin their lives and you will guarantee their lives after that?

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Thank you. Including for people already there, first of all, we have

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to have that agreement, represents City -- reciprocity, up to the day

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of Brexit and for their lives. I have a mandate and agreement, and I

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will respect it. It is to cover people who arrive tomorrow morning

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and up to the day of Brexit. So that those people acquire the five years

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necessary to be a permanent resident, but I can't tell you today

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the results of the negotiations on that point or any other point, but I

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am quite determined. I am determined to ask their rights to be covered as

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per my negotiating mandate, including for the category of people

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that you mentioned who are not there yet, but who arrived before Brexit

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happens. One more question. Mark Stone from Sky News, a general

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question and a specific question, the general one, do you say you

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don't want a deal with emotion, but how would you characterise the mood

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right now between London and Brussels? It appears to have

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deteriorated. How will that affect negotiations? At a specific crushing

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on financial commitments, there are ballpark figures, some talk of 100

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billion euros, some talk of 50 billion euros, can you give us a

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ballpark figure of what it might be? If not, do you expect the UK to

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agree to signing a blank cheque? I cannot accept that term, blank

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cheque. There was never any question of asking the UK to give us a blank

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cheque. That would not be serious. All we ask in for is for the

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accounts to be cleared for the honouring of commitments which the

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UK has entered into. It is not a blank cheque. We know exactly what

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we are speaking about and what we will discuss, but you cannot get me

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to give any figures. Let me say, as far as I am concerned, leaving the

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union does not have a price which has to be paid. We have an orderly

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withdrawal with accounts to be cleared, and we need to take into

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account various questions that I have mentioned previously. You have

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also asked me about the mood. The mood prevailing, the mood which I

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observed during the course of this dinner at the other day. Now, of

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course, the positions between us are different. Sometimes very different.

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That is no surprise to anyone. That is why we need negotiations, and why

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we have to start these negotiations as soon as possible. As you have

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been mentioning, this meeting, let me add a personal note in

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conclusion. When I accompanied peasant Juncker, it was the first

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time I had the honour of meeting Theresa May. -- President Juncker. I

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have to say it was a cordial meeting. I don't wish to be too

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Franco British in my approach, but I hope we can build a rapport. I am

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not sure yet, but that is my objective, to build a cordial

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relationship that will last well beyond Brexit. Secondly, also on a

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personal basis, I had the opportunity to discuss a shared

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passion, which I have with Theresa May, which is rambling and hiking in

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the mountains, and as you may know, I have the privilege of being the

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mountainous regions. If you like mountainous regions. If you like

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walking in the mountains, you had to learn a certain number of rules. You

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have to learn to put one foot in front of the other. Sometimes you

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are on a steep and rocky path. You also have to look at what accidents

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might befall you, falling rocks, you have to be careful to keep your

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breath, you have to have stamina, because it could be a lengthy path,

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and you have to keep looking at the summit, the outcome. That is what I

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learned mountain walking. Thank you. Just two minutes to put up the third

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