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Good aftepnoon, H call the in the chamber is already underway,

Good aftepnoon, H call the Assembly of Wales

Good aftepnoon, H call the Assembly nf Wales to

Good aftepnoon, H call the Assembly of Wales to order. Question

Good aftepnoon, H call the ona. How

Good aftepnoon, H call the one. How is the Welsh

ona. How hs the Velsh gnvernment workang

ona. How hs the Velsh gnvernment working to improve road safety?

wopkang to amprote road safety> Repobt

wopkang to amprote road safety> Report sets out the measures we

Repobt sets out the mearures we are taking to reduce the number of

people killed and seriously injured people killed and seriously injured

on Welsh roads. Following the worrying

on Welsh roads. Following the worrqing legs

on Welsh roads. Following the woprqing negs th`t Wales `as the

on Welsh roads. Following the highest rate of teenage drivers

injubed highest rate of teenage drivers

injured or killed on the roads and highest rate of teenage drivers

the level highest rate of teenage drivers

tha level ic particularly high highest rate of teenage drivers

the level is particularly high in the level ic particularly high in

Davidt the level ic particularly high in

Davitt Powys, how is the Welsh Davitt Powyc, how as thd Welsh

govebnment Davitt Powyc, how as thd Welsh

government working to ensure young gotebnment gorkilg to ensure ynung

drivers ape able gotebnment gorkilg to ensure ynung

drivers are able to handle gotebnment gorkilg to ensure ynung

drivers ape able to handle cars on rural roads? We have established a

drivers ape able to handle cars on working group to identify the row --

approach hs needdd working group to identify the row --

approach is needed to reduce working group to identify the row --

casualties. In addition, we provide working group to identify the row --

funding for young people to receive fulding for younf people to receive

training. Id fulding for younf people to receive

training. It provides additional training. Id protides addation`l

pracdical training. Id protides addation`l

practical and theoretical training. Id protides addation`l

pracdical and thdoretical training post-drivhng test

pracdical and thdoretical training post-driving test to improve driving

post-drivhng test to improve driving behafiour and is a factor when

behaviour and is a factor when cahcelatilg

behaviour and is a factor when calculating insurance against

behaviour and is a factor when young people as vell. The issud

behaviour and is a factor when drivang standards is

behaviour and is a factor when driving standards is not

drivang standardr as not devolved, nevebthelesc

drivang standardr as not devolved, nevertheless we take seriously

drivang standardr as not devolved, netebthelesc we take seriously the

nevebthelesc we tace seriously the issue of ensurinf

nevebthelesc we tace seriously the issue of ensuring road safety

issue of dncurinf road rafety figubes

issue of dncurinf road rafety figures continue to fall.

issue of dncurinf road rafety tragic events in

issue of dncurinf road rafety tragac events in Corwen have

issue of dncurinf road rafety reiterated the dangers faced by

reiterated the d`ngers faced bx mopobcyclisds

reiterated the d`ngers faced bx motorcyclists on Welsh roads. In

mopobcyclisds on Welsh roads. Hn 2012, motorcyclists were 70

mopobcyclisds on Welsh roads. Hn more likely to be killed or

seriously injured in a crash than a car drivep.

seriously injured in a crash than a car driver. Despite the idea

cap drivep. Desphte the idea of yoqng

cap drivep. Desphte the idea of young adults being at most risk

cap drivep. Desphte the idea of since 1998,

cap drivep. Desphte the idea of silce 1998, it is actuallq

cap drivep. Desphte the idea of since 1998, it is actually goes over

silce 1998, it is actuallq goes over tha

silce 1998, it is actuallq goes over the age od ?0

silce 1998, it is actuallq goes over the age of 30 more likely to be

tha age of ?0 mope likely to bd casualties, with men majing up

tha age of ?0 mope likely to bd approximately 90% overall. Could you

advice approximately 90% overall. Could you

advise what you are doing in advice wh`t you `re doing in

partaculap advice wh`t you `re doing in

particular as regards advice wh`t you `re doing in

and looking advice wh`t you `re doing in

an` looking at ways to advice wh`t you `re doing in

and looking at ways to prevent the advice wh`t you `re doing in

frequent numbers of deaths on our fraqeent lumbers of deaths on nur

roadc fraqeent lumbers of deaths on nur

roads stew to motorcycle accidents? fraqeent lumbers of deaths on nur

There are two issues. The accidents There are tgo isrues. The accidents

ara There are tgo isrues. The accidents

are older people. You see them on are older people, Qou sde them on

tha are older people, Qou sde them on

the weekend with their are older people, Qou sde them on

and of course are older people, Qou sde them on

their motorbikes. are older people, Qou sde them on

noticed some of the magazines have been saying come to Wales

bean saying come to ales to open throdtle,

bean saying come to ales to open thpodtle, and th`t

bean saying come to ales to open throttle, and that means they are

bean saying come to ales to open speeding. No matter

bean saying come to ales to open spaeding. No matter how

bean saying come to ales to open speeding. No matter how good you

speeding. No matter how good ynu ara,

speeding. No matter how good ynu are, if you lose control,

speeding. No matter how good ynu are, if ynu lose control, you

speeding. No matter how good ynu are, if you lose control, you are at

ara, if ynu lose control, you `re at risk. So I think there

ara, if ynu lose control, you `re at risk. So I dhink there hs

risk. So H dhink t`ere hs an emphasis on ensuring

risk. So H dhink t`ere hs an emphasis nn ensuping mature people

risk. So H dhink t`ere hs an ride safely and also that magazines

to not promote irresponsible ride safely and also that magazines

With reference ride safely and also that magazines

Wiph reference to a similar problem, ride safely and also that magazines

the fatal accidents and another ride safely and also that magazines

example all involving ride safely and also that magazines

exam`le all involvang mntorcycles, ride safely and also that magazines

what discussions has the what discuscions has thd Minister

ha` gith Police `nd rime what discuscions has thd Minister

Commissioner is to see whether a what discuscions has thd Minister

campaign could be established to try to c`ange

campaign could be established to try to change the habits of

campaign could be established to try to c`ange t`e ha`its of some

campaign could be established to try these drivers and motorcyclists? I

thase dritebs and motorcyclists? I thinc

thase dritebs and motorcyclists? I that we would want to

that we would walt to consider, but we have to remember

that we would walt to consider, but we have to bemem`er that

that we would walt to consider, but we have to remember that those

that we would walt to consider, but we have to bemember that those who

we have to bemem`er that those who have been killed,

we have to bemem`er that those who recently, it is important

we have to bemem`er that those who recently, id is hmportant that the

pohice recently, id is hmportant that the

police consider police colsider vorking wath ur as a

govebnment police colsider vorking wath ur as a

gotebnment do ensure gotebnment do enrure th`t back

caipaign gotebnment do enrure th`t back

campaign dor safetq gotebnment do enrure th`t back

campaign for safety is one that caipaign fob safetq is nne that

insubers caipaign fob safetq is nne that

insurers that fewer motorcyclists insubers that fewer motorcyclists

ara insubers that fewer motorcyclists

are killed over the next year. One of your target is to see if

are killed over the next year. One reduction in

are killed over the next year. One re`uction in the

reduction in the number of young people killed or injured on our

roads by 2020. Can you give us an roads by 00"0. C`n you five us an

up`ade roads by 00"0. C`n you five us an

update as to whether you believe that targdt

update as to whether you believe that target will

update as to whether you believe that targdt will be reached?

update as to whether you believe that target will be reached? Can you

that targdt will be reabhed? C`n you also agree one of the

also agree one od the reasons xoung people in rural areas are killed

people in reral `reas are killed in higher proportiol

people in reral `reas are killed in higher proportion is

people in reral `reas are killed in higher proportiol as because

people in reral `reas are killed in there is a lack of

people in reral `reas are killed in there is a lack nf public

people in reral `reas are killed in altebnatitec for young people,

people in reral `reas are killed in therefore they have

people in reral `reas are killed in therefore t`ey h`ve to be drivhng

thaib therefore t`ey h`ve to be drivhng

their cars? What can we do to improve the opportunities of access

their cars? What can we do to to affordable public

their cars? What can we do to to afford`ble publac transport?

their cars? What can we do to that were the case we would

their cars? What can we do to that were the care we would see

their cars? What can we do to that were the case we would see an

that were t`e care we would see an increase hn

that were t`e care we would see an increase in accidents across the

that were t`e care we would see an groups, not just young people. We

grou`s, nnt just young people. We know the overall rate of

grou`s, nnt just young people. We on Welsh roads h`s been fallinf,

grou`s, nnt just young people. We fell again in 2013. The number of

grou`s, nnt just young people. We motobcyclisds and

grou`s, nnt just young people. We motorcyclists and Young Persons does

grou`s, nnt just young people. We remain below the average and that

grou`s, nnt just young people. We has been `

grou`s, nnt just young people. We has been a general trend towards

has been ` general trend towards feweb people beilg injured

has been ` general trend towards fewer people being injured on the

has been ` general trend towards roads over the years in any

roadc ovep dhe ydars in any evdnt, so I thinj

roadc ovep dhe ydars in any evdnt, so I think the Twenty20 objective

roadc ovep dhe ydars in any evdnt, so I thinj the Twenty20 objective Is

so I thinj dhe Tventy20 objective is reac`able,

so I thinj dhe Tventy20 objective is reachable. What is

so I thinj dhe Tventy20 objective is reac`able. What is important is that

so I thinj dhe Tventy20 objective is young people

so I thinj dhe Tventy20 objective is yoqng people passing

so I thinj dhe Tventy20 objective is young people passing their

so I thinj dhe Tventy20 objective is yoqng people passing thdir tests

so I thinj dhe Tventy20 objective is young people passing their tests do

yoqng people pasring thdir tests do realase thebe is still

yoqng people pasring thdir tests do realise there is still more to do

yoqng people pasring thdir tests do tepmc of

yoqng people pasring thdir tests do terms of learning how to drive. That

is w`at our terms of learning how to drive. That

is what our additional training terms of learning how to drive. That

progbamme aams terms of learning how to drive. That

programme aims to do. What assecsment

programme aims to do. What assessment has the Welsh government

programme aims to do. What made of the report on accident rates

for qoung made of the report on accident rates

for young drivers? I referred to for qoung dbivers? I referred to the

Ansab 'vd for qoung dbivers? I referred to the

Ansar I've already given. It is for qoung dbivers? I referred to the

important issue, of course, for qoung dbivers? I referred to the

we're looking at how to encourage for qoung dbivers? I referred to the

young drivers to more safely. You for qoung dbivers? I referred to the

will be avare thd report for qoung dbivers? I referred to the

will be aware the report has for qoung dbivers? I referred to the

that in Gwent, for example, the rate for qoung dbivers? I referred to the

is more than half as high as the UK average,

is more than half as high as the UK avarage, fifing

is more than half as high as the UK average, giving it the

is more than half as high as the UK highest casualty rate

is more than half as high as the UK the EK. The UK Department

is more than half as high as the UK the UK. The UK Department for

is more than half as high as the UK Transport conducted research into

how to change the behaviour of learner dpifers,

how to change the behaviour of -- focus groups with

how to change the behaviour of -- focus froups vith young people,

how to change the behaviour of parents and employers to

how to change the behaviour of better understanding of the

better undebstanding of t`e isrue from their perspective.

better undebstanding of t`e isrue from theip perspdctive. I'm sure

better undebstanding of t`e isrue from their perspective. I'm sure you

from theip `erspdctive. I'm sure you woqld

from theip `erspdctive. I'm sure you would likd

from theip `erspdctive. I'm sure you would like to assure the house you

from theip `erspdctive. I'm sure you are fully behind t`is.

from theip `erspdctive. I'm sure you are fully behind this. Of

are fully behind t`is. Nf course I should add ?4 million in capital

funding should add ?4 million in capital

fundang h`s should add ?4 million in capital

funding h`s been should add ?4 million in capital

fundang h`s been set-ashde for road safedy in

fundang h`s been set-ashde for road safety in this financial year.

have priopidised schemes that look to reduce casualties in what

to reduce casualties in w`at are still unfordunatelq

to reduce casualties in w`at are still unfortunately high

to reduce casualties in w`at are groups. A

to reduce casualties in w`at are grou`s. A comprehensive

groups. A comprehensive School in 2009 outlined an important viddo

highlighting the horrendous consequenbec

highlighting the horrendous consequencec of text

highlighting the horrendous consequences of text in while

highlighting the horrendous driving. It has

highlighting the horrendous drivang. It has low

highlighting the horrendous driving. It has now had over 80,000

driving. Ht has low had over 80,000 hips on

driving. Ht has low had over 80,000 hits on YouTube. We need to

hips on YouDube. We need to encoerage

hips on YouDube. We need to encourage more comprehensive

education of encourage more comprehensive

edqcation of the encourage more comprehensive

education of the risks associated encourage more comprehensive

with such dangerous driving wiph such dangerous driving

pracdices, Do you wiph such dangerous driving

practices. Do you have any plans to wiph such dangerous driving

work with local authorities to do wiph such dangerous driving

this, particularly bearing in wiph such dangerous driving

Gwent have a second highest rate of wiph such dangerous driving

accidents among young drivers in wiph such dangerous driving

part of the UK? Yes, we wall papt of the U ? Xes, we wall work

wiph papt of the U ? Xes, we wall work

with the police of course papt of the U ? Xes, we wall work

wiph the police nf course to papt of the U ? Xes, we wall work

with the police of course to reduce papt of the U ? Xes, we wall work

the number of the numbep of accidents. Text hn is

ilhegal the numbep of accidents. Text hn is

illegal while the numbep of accidents. Text hn is

imagane alydhing the numbep of accidents. Text hn is

imagine anything that would better imagine alydhing t`at would better

fip imagine alydhing t`at would better

fit under the category of driving imagine alydhing t`at would better

without dte imagine alydhing t`at would better

without due care and attention at without dte care and attention at

tha without dte care and attention at

the fery without dte care and attention at

the very least. without dte care and attention at

the fery least. Laking ` phone calL without dte care and attention at

without a hands free device is without dte care and attention at

illegal. It is clear without dte care and attention at

illegal. Ht is clear more work ilhegal. Ht is clear more work needs

to be done an tepms ilhegal. Ht is clear more work needs

to be done in terms of text in but it ic not

to be done in terms of text in but it is not clear how many accidents

to be done in terms of text in but text in will cause. It is self

to be done in terms of text in but evident in my

to be done in terms of text in but evident il my view that text in will

to be done in terms of text in but be very d`ngerour

to be done in terms of text in but be very dangerous at the wheel of a

car. be very dangerous at the wheel of a

cap. The leader of the opposition. car. The leader of the opposition.

First Minister, are there Fipsd Minhsder, `re there enoufh

inpensive care Fipsd Minhsder, `re there enoufh

intensive care beds? Yes, we believe Fipsd Minhsder, `re there enoufh

there are. Fipsd Minhsder, `re there enoufh

there are, Af Fipsd Minhsder, `re there enoufh

there are. If you Fipsd Minhsder, `re there enoufh

there are, Af you look Fipsd Minhsder, `re there enoufh

there are. If you look at the Fipsd Minhsder, `re there enoufh

of beds at across Wales per head, it Fipsd Minhsder, `re there enoufh

is higher than Fipsd Minhsder, `re there enoufh

is hagher t`an Elgland. You Fipsd Minhsder, `re there enoufh

aware of the news story pointing out Fipsd Minhsder, `re there enoufh

29 people died prematurely because 29 people daed ppematurelq because

thay 29 people daed ppematurelq because

they were denied access to cardiac thay were denied access to cardiac

servaces. thay were denied access to cardiac

services. One thay were denied access to cardiac

idandified a thay were denied access to cardiac

identified a failure to have enough intensive care beds available here

inpensive care bdds avahlable here in Wales to address some of

in Wales to address somd of big vision is t`at

in Wales to address somd of big vision is that these patients are

in Wales to address somd of big prasentinf. The 09

in Wales to address somd of big presenting. The 29 patients who died

in Wales to address somd of big prematurely is a 70% increase in the

prematurely is a 70% inbrease hn the nuiber of

prematurely is a 70% inbrease hn the number of premature deaths over

number of pbemature deaths over the pravaous

number of pbemature deaths over the prevaous xear.

number of pbemature deaths over the previous year. You have clinicians

saying there are previous year. You have clinicians

intensive care beds previous year. You have clinicians

meet the demand. This afternoon, previous year. You have clinicians

are going to have a statement from are going to havd a statement from

yoq. are going to havd a statement from

you. It is clear clinicians yoq. It is clear clinicians are

saying there are not enough yoq. It is clear clinicians are

inpensive care yoq. It is clear clinicians are

intensive care beds yoq. It is clear clinicians are

inpensive care bdds in intensive care bdds in Vales. Vhy

ara intensive care bdds in Vales. Vhy

are you not intensive care bdds in Vales. Vhy

are you nnt delitering the intensive care bdds in Vales. Vhy

are you not delivering the goods to intensive care bdds in Vales. Vhy

meet the demand that they require intensive care bdds in Vales. Vhy

address thece intensive care bdds in Vales. Vhy

address these premature deaths? It intensive care bdds in Vales. Vhy

is very difficult to comment on intensive care bdds in Vales. Vhy

is very dhfficult to comment on a is very difficult to comment on a

programme no is very difficult to comment on a

progbamme no one programme no one has yet seen. I

note the comments on the website programme no one has yet seen. I

note the bomments on thd website in programme no one has yet seen. I

tepmc of what programme no one has yet seen. I

terms of what has programme no one has yet seen. I

tepmc of what has been programme no one has yet seen. I

terms of what has been said programme no one has yet seen. I

tepmc of what has been saad abnut programme no one has yet seen. I

what has been reduced -- done to what has `een reduced -- done to

re`uce what has `een reduced -- done to

reduce cardiac what has `een reduced -- done to

unfortunately do what has `een reduced -- done to

undobtunately do pass avaq what has `een reduced -- done to

unfortunately do pass away across what has `een reduced -- done to

the UK awaiting cardiac operations. what has `een reduced -- done to

That is no comfort to those what has `een reduced -- done to

their loved ones, I understand that. what has `een reduced -- done to

There will be times when people are what has `een reduced -- done to

unable to have surgery. But what unable to have strgery. But wh`t is

claab unable to have strgery. But wh`t is

clear is the number of people claar is the num`er of people

awaiding claar is the num`er of people

awaiting babdiac claar is the num`er of people

awaiting cardiac surgery in South claar is the num`er of people

Wahes has claar is the num`er of people

Wales has dropped over the claar is the num`er of people

Wahes has dropped over the last claar is the num`er of people

year. That drop is obviously a year. hat drop hs obviously a

factor in people accessing treatment year. hat drop hs obviously a

across the border. We have no acpocs the bordep. We h`ve no

idaological acpocs the bordep. We h`ve no

ideological problems on this side of acpocs the bordep. We h`ve no

the house as acpocs the bordep. We h`ve no

tha `ouse ac lonf acpocs the bordep. We h`ve no

the house as long as the patient can acpocs the bordep. We h`ve no

have theip acpocs the bordep. We h`ve no

have their treatment free acpocs the bordep. We h`ve no

hate theip treatment free at acpocs the bordep. We h`ve no

have their treatment free at the hate theip dreatment free at the

poind hate theip dreatment free at the

point of delivery. We believe poind of delivery. We bdlaeve that

it is a sdncible poind of delivery. We bdlaeve that

it is a sensible course of action. it ic a sdncible course of action.

Bup it ic a sdncible course of action.

But as it ic a sdncible course of action.

Bup as I saad in it ic a sdncible course of action.

But as I said in my second question it ic a sdncible course of action.

to you, clinicians it ic a sdncible course of action.

to you, clinicials say it ic a sdncible course of action.

to you, clinicians say there are it ic a sdncible course of action.

to you, clinicials say there are not it ic a sdncible course of action.

enough intensive care beds available it ic a sdncible course of action.

to meet the demand, there it ic a sdncible course of action.

to meet the demald, there has it ic a sdncible course of action.

to meet the demand, there has been a to meet the demald, there has been a

70! to meet the demald, there has been a

70% increase in to meet the demald, there has been a

70! ancrease in premature to meet the demald, there has been a

because of to meet the demald, there has been a

becaese od `roblems within to meet the demald, there has been a

hospatals. Qou to meet the demald, there has been a

hospitals. You believe the families hospatals, Qou bdlaeve the famhlies

of people like Ron Jones deserve hospatals, Qou bdlaeve the famhlies

apology from you hospatals, Qou bdlaeve the famhlies

apology fpom you as First hospatals, Qou bdlaeve the famhlies

apology from you as First Minister apology fpom you as irst Minister

for not putting the resources into fop not pttding the resnurces hnto

tha Gelsh N@S because thear fop not pttding the resnurces hnto

the Welsh NHS because their loved fop not pttding the resnurces hnto

ones are dying prematurely? It is ones are dyang ppematurelq? It is

diffacult ones are dyang ppematurelq? It is

difficult to comment ones are dyang ppematurelq? It is

diffacult to comlent on ones are dyang ppematurelq? It is

difficult to comment on individual diffacult to comlent on individual

casec. We diffacult to comlent on individual

cases. We do diffacult to comlent on individual

casec. We do know diffacult to comlent on individual

cases. We do know the numbers casec. We do know the ntmbers

waitang for cardiac operations are waitang for cardhac operations are

drop`ing. If waitang for cardhac operations are

dropping. If it were the case that the numbeps were

dropping. If it were the case that the numbers were increasing, then

the numbeps were increaring, then ona

the numbeps were increaring, then one might expect

the numbeps were increaring, then one might eppect to see

the numbeps were increaring, then one might expect to see an

the numbeps were increaring, then one might eppect to see an increasE

ona might eppect to see an increase in the number of people dying. It's

ona might eppect to see an increase not clear

ona might eppect to see an increase nop clear w`ethep these

ona might eppect to see an increase not clear whether these figures

ona might eppect to see an increase nop clear w`ethep these fagures are

not clear w`ethep these fagures are from or how sound they are. I looked

from or hnw sound they `re. I looked at the BBC

from or hnw sound they `re. I looked at t`e BBC Gales website,

from or hnw sound they `re. I looked at the BBC Wales website, which said

at t`e BBC Gales website, which said thare

at t`e BBC Gales website, which said there been a

at t`e BBC Gales website, which said thare been a halting

at t`e BBC Gales website, which said there been a halving in the

thare beel a halting in t`e nulber of people waiting for cardiac

thare beel a halting in t`e nulber oparationr cince August

thare beel a halting in t`e nulber operations since August last year in

thare beel a halting in t`e nulber Capdaff. The

thare beel a halting in t`e nulber Cardiff. The Swansea figures made no

Cardaff. The walsea figures m`de no sense at all and

Cardaff. The walsea figures m`de no sense at `ll and must've

Cardaff. The walsea figures m`de no sense at all and must've been cut

selse at `ll and must'vd been but an`

selse at `ll and must'vd been but and `asted. They

selse at `ll and must'vd been but and pasted. They said in March 20

13/3"3 and pasted. They said in March 20

13/323 patients waiting for cardiac and pasted. They said in March 20

operations, an increase of 57 since and pasted. They said in March 20

last year. But it is and pasted. They said in March 20

last year. But it as lart and pasted. They said in March 20

last year. But it is last year. and pasted. They said in March 20

those figtres and pasted. They said in March 20

those figures do not make sense. and pasted. They said in March 20

There will be occasions w`en and pasted. They said in March 20

do unfortunately passed away while waitang

do unfortunately passed away while waiting for

do unfortunately passed away while waitang for operataons, it

do unfortunately passed away while waiting for operations, it happens

waiting for operataons, it happens alh over the UK.

waiting for operataons, it happens all over the UK. We need to make

waiting for operataons, it happens sure the trend towards the reduction

in the sure the trend towards the reduction

in t`e wahtang times sure the trend towards the reduction

in the waiting times for cardiac sure the trend towards the reduction

operations continues and that is what we have done. We now move to

what we h`ve dond. We nnw move to tha

what we h`ve dond. We nnw move to the leader of the Welsh Liberal

Democrats. Today we've the leader of the Welsh Liberal

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really proud of the role Swansea really proud of the role Swansda

Cohlege of medicine have really proud of the role Swansda

College of medicine have played in really proud of the role Swansda

those trialc. Could really proud of the role Swansda

those trials. Could you outline what those trialc. Could you outlind what

stapc those trialc. Could you outlind what

steps you are taking to stapc you abe tajing to support

clinacal traals in Wales? stapc you abe tajing to support

clinical trials in Wales? We are very suppnrdive.

clinical trials in Wales? We are vepy suppnrdive. Melanoma is

clinical trials in Wales? We are very supportive. Melanoma is the

clinical trials in Wales? We are disease that took my mother and

clinical trials in Wales? We are is quite personal for me. It is

impossible is quite personal for me. It is

impocsible do is quite personal for me. It is

impossible to treat effectively once it has sppead

impossible to treat effectively once it has spread so

impossible to treat effectively once it has sppead so I very much welcome

our role in Wales and what has been our bole hn Wales and what has been

done in terms our bole hn Wales and what has been

appeared to be some very good results thus far or too drugs for

results thuc far or too drugs for mehanoma.

results thuc far or too drugs for melanoma. As the leader of the

mehanoma. Ac the leader of the Libebal

mehanoma. Ac the leader of the Liberal Democrats will know,

mehanoma. Ac the leader of the Libebal Democrats will jnow, we

mehanoma. Ac the leader of the Liberal Democrats will know, we are

mehanoma. Ac the leader of the we have, they have contributed

mehanoma. Ac the leader of the much to ddaling vith an illnesr all

in this chamber much to ddaling vith an illnesr all

in t`is chamber will be much to ddaling vith an illnesr all

in this chamber will be familiar in this chamber vill be familiar

wiph. We do in this chamber vill be familiar

with. We do know a clinical in this chamber vill be familiar

improves the quality of care and the in this chamber vill be familiar

outcome for patients. It in this chamber vill be familiar

oupcome for patients. It motiv`tes outcome for patients. It motiv`tes

tha outcome for patients. It motiv`tes

the workforce and helps to the workforce and `elps to maintain

inpebnationally the workforce and `elps to maintain

internationally penowned the workforce and `elps to maintain

internationally renowned clinicians the workforce and `elps to maintain

within Wales. Will you wiphin Walec. Will you dnsure the

abilaty wiphin Walec. Will you dnsure the

ability to run clinical trials for wiphin Walec. Will you dnsure the

calcer drugs wiphin Walec. Will you dnsure the

cancer drugs in Wales will not be wiphin Walec. Will you dnsure the

jeopardised by clinicians wiphin Walec. Will you dnsure the

able to prescribe wiphin Walec. Will you dnsure the

able to ppeccribd treatment able to prescribe treatment is

regarded as the accepted standard of care? If they cal't do

regarded as the accepted standard of care? If they can't do that,

cape? f they cal't do that, it meanc

cape? f they cal't do that, it means they cannot take place in the

meanc they cannot take place in the clinacal traal.

meanc they cannot take place in the clinical trial. The

meanc they cannot take place in the clinacal traal. The treatments

meanc they cannot take place in the clinical trial. The treatments are

meanc they cannot take place in the the accepted standard

meanc they cannot take place in the tha accepted staldard of care to

meanc they cannot take place in the the accepted standard of care to be

meanc they cannot take place in the proved, so I would not expect a

proved, so I would not dxpect ` diffaculty.

proved, so I would not dxpect ` difficulty. In terms of clinical

proved, so I would not dxpect ` trials, they are

proved, so I would not dxpect ` trials, theq are set up

proved, so I would not dxpect ` trials, they are set up in

proved, so I would not dxpect ` different ways. For example, for

proved, so I would not dxpect ` many years, UNH double has been

proved, so I would not dxpect ` part of leukaemia

proved, so I would not dxpect ` part of leucaemia trials

proved, so I would not dxpect ` effectively people at

proved, so I would not dxpect ` are `eople gho

proved, so I would not dxpect ` are people who are part of the

proved, so I would not dxpect ` trial. I'm not aware of

proved, so I would not dxpect ` trial. I'm not avare of restrictions

on the taking of a drug as part of a trial. I'm not avare of restrictions

clinical trial. Perhaps you would clinacal traal. Perhaps you would

agree clinacal traal. Perhaps you would

agpee to leet with clinacal traal. Perhaps you would

agree to meet with clinicians who do agree to leet with clinhcaans vho do

have concerns about this. You have agree to leet with clinhcaans vho do

taken a very strong stands taken a vdrq strong stands in the

chamber a`out Wels` patients bding taken a vdrq strong stands in the

prevented from accessing prevented fbom abcessinf up-to-date

cancer treatments. In prevented fbom abcessinf up-to-date

calcer treatments. In that casd, prevented fbom abcessinf up-to-date

will you look again at the Welsh NHS wihl you look ag`in at the Welsh NHS

decicion wihl you look ag`in at the Welsh NHS

decision not to provide wihl you look ag`in at the Welsh NHS

in Wales, and also the inability of wihl you look ag`in at the Welsh NHS

tha Gelsh wihl you look ag`in at the Welsh NHS

the Welsh NHS to wihl you look ag`in at the Welsh NHS

reduction surgery - not wihl you look ag`in at the Welsh NHS

reduction sergery - not druGs, wihl you look ag`in at the Welsh NHS

reduction surgery - not drugs, these wihl you look ag`in at the Welsh NHS

are radiotherapy techniques and wihl you look ag`in at the Welsh NHS

supgeries accept it as wihl you look ag`in at the Welsh NHS

surgeries accept it as being wihl you look ag`in at the Welsh NHS

successful - will qou look wihl you look ag`in at the Welsh NHS

successful - will you look again wihl you look ag`in at the Welsh NHS

successful - will qou look agahn at wihl you look ag`in at the Welsh NHS

those decisions so wihl you look ag`in at the Welsh NHS

those decisaons ro Welsh wihl you look ag`in at the Welsh NHS

have access to both those have access to bnt` those

technologhec? have access to bnt` those

technologiec? I think have access to bnt` those

technologies? I think it best if I asked to write

technologies? I think it best if I asked to wrate to the relevant party

asked to write to the relevant party about

asked to write to the relevant party aboud that. As

asked to write to the relevant party about that. As with all

asked to write to the relevant party it is about how effective treatment

asked to write to the relevant party wihl be generally

asked to write to the relevant party will be generally because no two

will be gdnerally becaure no two people react in

will be gdnerally becaure no two people reacd in the same way.

will be gdnerally becaure no two people react in the same way. I

will be gdnerally becaure no two people reacd in the same way. I will

people reacd in the samd way. H will certainly asked the health minister

people reacd in the samd way. H will to write with regard to the specific

people reacd in the samd way. H will instances so she can have the

people reacd in the samd way. H will answer. But the First Minister and

people reacd in the samd way. H will the leader

people reacd in the samd way. H will tha leadep of

people reacd in the samd way. H will the leader of the Conservatives in

Wales took to the radio this morning the leader of the Conservatives in

to proclaim the economic recovery to pboclahm the dconomic recovdry

ha` taken to pboclahm the dconomic recovdry

had taken root. to pboclahm the dconomic recovdry

ha` taken root. Does the to pboclahm the dconomic recovdry

had taken root. Does the First had taken root. Does thd First

Minicter had taken root. Does thd First

Milister hn had taken root. Does thd First

Minister in all honesty had taken root. Does thd First

Milister hn all honesty believd Minicter hn all honesty believd that

people in this country are feeling people in t`is country `re feeling

an economic recovery? I an economhc recotery? I t`ink there

is some way to go yet but we is some way to gn qet btt we know

thare has is some way to gn qet btt we know

there has been some success. is some way to gn qet btt we know

thare has been some success. ModerN there has been some success. Modern

apprenticeships there has been some success. Modern

apprentices`ips dtc. there has been some success. Modern

apprenticeships etc. We are apprentices`ips dtc. We are laxing

tha foundations apprentices`ips dtc. We are laxing

the foundations for the economy in apprentices`ips dtc. We are laxing

the future. We're not in apprentices`ips dtc. We are laxing

situation we were in before apprentices`ips dtc. We are laxing

is almost as if apprentices`ips dtc. We are laxing

is almost ac if the irst Minister has not spocen to

is almost ac if the irst Minister has not spoken to people

is almost ac if the irst Minister has not spocen to people seriously

has not spoken to people seriously strugglinf in

has not spoken to people seriously struggling in these difficult

has not spoken to people seriously economic times. The deputy governor

has not spoken to people seriously of the Bank of England said a few

of the Balk of Elgland raad a few days ago that in Wales it looks like

days ago that in Wales ht lookr like growdh

days ago that in Wales ht lookr like growth started six to nine months

ago. For England, it was more like growth started six to nine months

year. There is growth started six to nine months

year. Thepe is still growth started six to nine months

year. There is still an element of catch

year. There is still an element of capch up

year. There is still an element of catch up here.

year. There is still an element of capch up hebe. Does the First

catc` up hebe. Does the Farst Minicter

catc` up hebe. Does the Farst Minister I agree

catc` up hebe. Does the Farst Milicter H agree t`at growth

Minicter H agree t`at growth is Minister I agree that growth is

Minicter H agree t`at growth is laggang behand il Wales>

Minicter H agree t`at growth is lagging behind in Wales? If he does

agree, does he take any responsibility? What the

agree, does he take any responsibilaty? What thd deputy

agree, does he take any governor said

govebnor raad war self-evadently wrong.

govebnor raad war self-evadently of England with Wales. Even

govebnor raad war self-evadently that comparison, our unemployment is

govebnor raad war self-evadently loweb. We

govebnor raad war self-evadently lower. We have some

govebnor raad war self-evadently lower. We have snme of the best job

govebnor raad war self-evadently creation schemes for young people in

the world. We see youth unemployment the world. Ge see qouth unemployment

drop`ing. the world. Ge see qouth unemployment

dropping. We need drop`ing. We need to maje sure that

we are -- we continue to attract we are -- we continue to attrabt

invectment. we are -- we continue to attrabt

investment. We we are -- we continue to attrabt

intestment. We will we are -- we continue to attrabt

investment. We will play we are -- we continue to attrabt

intestment. We will play `ard we are -- we continue to attrabt

investment. We will play hard to we are -- we continue to attrabt

rebuild our present overseas we are -- we continue to attrabt

rebuald our present overseas and we are -- we continue to attrabt

bring investment into Wales. That is not

bring investment into Wales. That is nop do say,

bring investment into Wales. That is not to say, of course,

not do sax, of course, that thd economy is where it was eight or

economy is ghere it was eaght nr nine years ago. That is not the

case. That is true of every case. hat as true of every country

in Western Europe and North case. hat as true of every country

in Westerl Europe and North America. case. hat as true of every country

Given the circumstances we find case. hat as true of every country

ourselves in, where unemployment ourselves in, whdre unemployment is

loweb ourselves in, whdre unemployment is

lower than ourselves in, whdre unemployment is

loweb thal in ourselves in, whdre unemployment is

lower than in England, is ourselves in, whdre unemployment is

extraordinary. Wales was always at extraordilaby. W`les war alwayr at

tha dail extraordilaby. W`les war alwayr at

the tail end extraordilaby. W`les war alwayr at

the dail dnd of an tha tail dnd of `n econnmac

recofery. tha tail dnd of `n econnmac

recovery. T`is tha tail dnd of `n econnmac

recovery. This time we are front. recofery. T`is time we `re front.

Those figures take no account of recofery. T`is time we `re front.

type of jobc recofery. T`is time we `re front.

type of jobs people Arian, recofery. T`is time we `re front.

nuiber of recofery. T`is time we `re front.

number of 0-hours contract, the low nuiber of 0-hours contract, thd low

pay and the difficulty people are pay and the difficulty people `re

having pay and the difficulty people `re

hating in making pay and the difficulty people `re

having in making ends pay and the difficulty people `re

hating in making ends mdet. If pay and the difficulty people `re

having in making ends meet. If we pay and the difficulty people `re

are to reverse this pay and the difficulty people `re

underperformance in the Welsh un`ebperformance in the Welsh

economy, ve un`ebperformance in the Welsh

economy, we must take responsibility economy, ve must take responsibility

an` economy, ve must take responsibility

and the First Minister must economy, ve must take responsibility

responsibility, too. Yesterday, economy, ve must take responsibility

responsibilaty, too. Yesterday, the economy, ve must take responsibility

Scottish Conservatives unveiled economy, ve must take responsibility

proposals for the devolution of economy, ve must take responsibility

income tax to Scotland without... I income tax do Scotland vithout... I

know the First Minister agrees that income tax do Scotland vithout... I

a lockstep should not apply to a lockstep chould not apply to

Wahec. a lockstep chould not apply to

Walec. Will his bolleagtes in a lockstep chould not apply to

Wales. Will his colleagues in London back Plaid Cymru's bid to remove the

Wales. Will his colleagues in London lockstep from the Wales

Wales. Will his colleagues in London lockctep drom the Wales bad? Or

Wales. Will his colleagues in London lockstep from the Wales bid? Or will

those MPs be backing thd lockstep from the Wales bid? Or will

those MPs be backing the London Tory lockstep from the Wales bid? Or will

line? There are lockstep from the Wales bid? Or will

line? Thepe are two simple lockstep from the Wales bid? Or will

line? There are two simple answers to the economy as far

line? There are two simple answers to t`e economy ar far ar

line? There are two simple answers are concerned. One is

line? There are two simple answers Having the power is one thing, using

the `ower is another. It tha `ower ic another. It as

incumbent on Plaid Cymru to explain how they would use those powers to

how dhey voeld ure thosd powers to tha

how dhey voeld ure thosd powers to the benefit of the

how dhey voeld ure thosd powers to talk about procurement. What

how dhey voeld ure thosd powers to talk about `rocupement. What I see

tahk about `rocupement. W`at I see of t`eir

tahk about `rocupement. W`at I see of their procurement ideas, they

tahk about `rocupement. W`at I see of t`eir procurement iddas, thdy are

tahk about `rocupement. W`at I see lawfel. --

tahk about `rocupement. W`at I see lawful. -- unlawful.

tahk about `rocupement. W`at I see lawfel. -- enlawdul. We are always

opan lawfel. -- enlawdul. We are always

open to stggestions. lawfel. -- enlawdul. We are always

open to suggestions. But to opan to stggestions. But to sufgest

that Wales is opan to stggestions. But to sufgest

that Wales as doing badly is quite siiply wrong.

that Wales as doing badly is quite simply wrong. Unemployment is, as a

siiply wrong. Undmploymdnt is, as a fact, lower than the UK average.

That is a fact. We are getting more That is a fact. Ve are fetting more

highly skhlled jobs into That is a fact. Ve are fetting more

highly skilled jobs into Wales. Pinewood

highly skilled jobs into Wales. Pinegood is an

highly skilled jobs into Wales. Pinewood is an example of that.

highly skilled jobs into Wales. These are not ru`bish jobs.

highly skilled jobs into Wales. These are not rubbish jobs. These

highly skilled jobs into Wales. are custahnable `nd

highly skilled jobs into Wales. are sustainable and long-term, and

are custahnable `nd lonf-term, and highly skilled. That is t`e future

are custahnable `nd lonf-term, and direction of the Welsh dconomy.

dipection of the Welsh dconomy. To try do

dipection of the Welsh dconomy. To try to pretend that somdhow

evarqthinf try to pretend that somdhow

evarqthing as try to pretend that somdhow

everything is very try to pretend that somdhow

evarqthing as vepy dark, is try to pretend that somdhow

completely wrong. try to pretend that somdhow

completely grong. We will tAlk try to pretend that somdhow

Walec. We try to pretend that somdhow

Wales. We are happy we are moving in the

Wales. We are happy we are moving in tha bight

Wales. We are happy we are moving in the right direction. There

Wales. We are happy we are moving in the right darection. There is

Wales. We are happy we are moving in work to

Wales. We are happy we are moving in wopk to bd done `ut

Wales. We are happy we are moving in work to be done but the

Wales. We are happy we are moving in wopk to bd done `ut the fantasies Of

wopk to bd done `ut the fantashes of Plaid Cympu,

wopk to bd done `ut the fantashes of Plaid Cymru, who say the answer

wopk to bd done `ut the fantashes of Plaid Cympu, who say thd answer to

wopk to bd done `ut the fantashes of evarq isste

wopk to bd done `ut the fantashes of every issue and probably

wopk to bd done `ut the fantashes of evarq isste and probably Welsh

wopk to bd done `ut the fantashes of economy has is to get the lockstep

removed, economy has is to get the lockstep

reiofed, rhows hnw economy has is to get the lockstep

removed, shows how out of touch they economy has is to get the lockstep

are. We now move back to questions economy has is to get the lockstep

on the economy has is to get the lockstep

on t`e papeb. Wildae economy has is to get the lockstep

on the paper. Wildie First Minister on the papeb. Wildae First Minhster

make a statement on the gum on the papeb. Wildae First Minhster

workforce? Dhat hs the workforce? That is the

responsibility workforce? That is the

responsibilaty od the workforce? That is the

responsibility of the Minister. Many workforce? That is the

people have expressed concerns about the appointment process for the

the appoiltment process for thd Wehs`

the appoiltment process for thd Wels` comlent

the appoiltment process for thd Welsh comment workforce,

the appoiltment process for thd particularly given

the appoiltment process for thd papticulaply givdn the

the appoiltment process for thd particularly given the news that the

former nursing director and an former nupsang dhrector and an

appoanted former nupsang dhrector and an

appointed as former nupsang dhrector and an

appoanted ac a ppobect former nupsang dhrector and an

appointed as a project manager former nupsang dhrector and an

fundamental standards of care review. -- `ad

fundamental standards of care review. -- had been appointed.

Professor Andrews deemed there to be review. -- had been appointed.

serious failings in patient care at review. -- had been appointed.

two hospitals within that health review. -- had been appointed.

board area. We know that the third board area. We klow that the third

thame nursec board area. We klow that the third

theme nurses have been suspended. board area. We klow that the third

13 nurses. How can you be assured, board area. We klow that the third

as Farst board area. We klow that the third

as First Minister, that appropriate as First Linistep, that appropriate

people are appointed to very important roles in terms of our NHS,

people are appointed to very so that people are not let down by

people are appointed to very the appointments system through

people are appointed to very tha appoiltments sqstem t`rough thE

tha appointments sqstem t`rough the appoantmelt

tha appointments sqstem t`rough the appointment of individuals like this

tha appointments sqstem t`rough the person? Can

tha appointments sqstem t`rough the pepson? C`n you tell us

tha appointments sqstem t`rough the person? Can you tell us if you have

tha appointments sqstem t`rough the confidence dhat this

tha appointments sqstem t`rough the confidence that this person can

fulfil the role she has been given? confidence that this person can

Yes, I do, confidence that this person can

Yes, I do. I confidence that this person can

Yes, I do, A draw confidence that this person can

Yes, I do. I draw on the confidence that this person can

Yes, I do, A draw on thd report confidence that this person can

Yes, I do. I draw on the report by confidence that this person can

Professor Andrews. No indavidu`l confidence that this person can

witchhunt. It confidence that this person can

wipc`hunt, At is clear confidence that this person can

witchhunt. It is clear from wipc`hunt, At is clear from thd

repobt itself th`t she wipc`hunt, At is clear from thd

report itself that she felt, and wipc`hunt, At is clear from thd

repobt itself th`t she felt, and the board was able to

through the Welsh government, but also through the agencies

through the Welsh government, but also throug` the agencies the VelsH

through the Welsh government, but government sponsors. And

through the Welsh government, but again, the most important

again, thd most hmportant point in people's mines was the issue

again, thd most hmportant point in 0-hours contract

again, thd most hmportant point in 0-hoers condract 's

again, thd most hmportant point in 0-hours contract 's were people on

0-hours condract 's were people on wagec

0-hours condract 's were people on wages that

0-hours condract 's were people on wagec that are

0-hours condract 's were people on wages that are sn low

0-hours condract 's were people on wages that are so low they do

0-hours condract 's were people on have the same protection

0-hours condract 's were people on have the rame protection as

0-hours condract 's were people on have the same protection as others.

0-hours condract 's were people on For example, those people working

0-hours condract 's were people on the National

0-hours condract 's were people on tha Natiolal Museum of

0-hours condract 's were people on the National Museum of Wales who

0-hours condract 's were people on facing losing their premium rates

facing losing thdir premium rates workang

facing losing thdir premium rates working weekend.

facing losing thdir premium rates First Minister, going to do to

facing losing thdir premium rates ensure that people across Wales who

work for agencies sponsored by the ensure that people across Wales who

Welsh government, do receive the new reiuneration they deserve?

TRANCL TINN2 reiuneration they deserve?

TRANCLATION: We would expect TRANSLATION: We would expect

everybody... TRANSLATION: We would expect

evarqbody... Nobodq working for the everybody,.. obndq working for the

Wehs` everybody,.. obndq working for the

Welsh govdrnment is Wels` govdrnment is on ruch a

contbact. Wels` govdrnment is on ruch a

contract. We have looked at Wels` govdrnment is on ruch a

coltbact. We havd looked at thhs contbact. We havd looked at thhs

issue. And of course we have few contbact. We havd looked at thhs

have legislation on the UC level contbact. We havd looked at thhs

ensube that contbact. We havd looked at thhs

ensure that this does not happen on contbact. We havd looked at thhs

that level also. There is no that level also. T`ere hs no

different that level also. T`ere hs no

didferent in terms of principle that level also. T`ere hs no

here. But we do have to ensure here. ut we do have to ensure there

is a Welsh and a British here. ut we do have to ensure there

dealing with this matter. Wildie here. ut we do have to ensure there

First Minister outline here. ut we do have to ensure there

improve public health? They are here. ut we do have to ensure there

be contailed here. ut we do have to ensure there

be contained in various documents, here. ut we do have to ensure there

papticularlq the here. ut we do have to ensure there

particularly the Public health White Paper

particularly the Public health White Papeb publiched

particularly the Public health White Paper published on April the 2nd.

particularly the Public health White Silce the

particularly the Public health White Since the 1990s, the British

particularly the Public health White Association have been saying

particularly the Public health White health impact assessments should

particularly the Public health White healdh impact asressments should be

done. The healdh impact asressments should be

dole. he Gbeen healdh impact asressments should be

done. The Green paper referred healdh impact asressments should be

them and said health boards should healdh impact asressments should be

have an early sight of healdh impact asressments should be

hate an early sight of planning healdh impact asressments should be

applacationc accordingly. healdh impact asressments should be

applications accordingly. There is applacationc accordingly. There is

no mentiol applacationc accordingly. There is

no mention of that in the White applacationc accordingly. There is

Paper. Why is that? applacationc accordingly. There is

Papeb. Whx is that? This as applacationc accordingly. There is

Paper. Why is that? This is a applacationc accordingly. There is

planning issue, I would argue. applacationc accordingly. There is

planning iscue, I would argue. Any applacationc accordingly. There is

kild of applacationc accordingly. There is

kind of impact contained within planning guadance.

kind of impact contained within planning guidance. That will be the

kind of impact contained within araa where consideration will

area where consideration will be given

area where consideration will be giten to

area where consideration will be given to matters such as that.

giten to matters such ar that. TRANCL TINN2

giten to matters such ar that. TRANCLATION2 First

giten to matters such ar that. TRANSLATION: First Minister, one of

giten to matters such ar that. tha greatest responsibilities nf

the greatesd responsibilities nf govebnment

the greatesd responsibilities nf gotebnment as to protect the

the greatesd responsibilities nf government is to protect the health

govebnment as to protect the hdalth of children. You have the

govebnment as to protect the hdalth ban smoking in cars

govebnment as to protect the hdalth bal cmokilg in cars where there are

govebnment as to protect the hdalth children as passengers. Are you

children `s passdngers. Are you confadent

children `s passdngers. Are you confident there is sufficient time

children `s passdngers. Are you available to use government to

children `s passdngers. Are you smoking il

children `s passdngers. Are you smoking in cars carrying children,

children `s passdngers. Are you if the evidence does support

if the evhdence does support stch a move, and

if the evhdence does support stch a mote, and w`ethep qou

if the evhdence does support stch a move, and whether you have

move, and w`ethep qou h`ve the will to actually implement that ban>

TRANCL TINN2 to actually implement that ban>

TRANSLATION: Yes, if that to actually implement that ban>

TRANCLATINN2 Yes, af th`t is to actually implement that ban>

TRANSLATION: Yes, if that is what to actually implement that ban>

tha evidelce to actually implement that ban>

the evidence shows, I don't see any to actually implement that ban>

great problem in terms of gread problem in terms nf

consaderilg this gread problem in terms nf

considering this matter in future. colsidering this matter in future.

Reiemberilg, colsidering this matter in future.

Remembering, of course, colsidering this matter in future.

Remembering, of bourse, what colsidering this matter in future.

Remembering, of course, what the Reiembering, of bourse, w`at the

majobity Reiembering, of bourse, w`at the

mahobity view Reiembering, of bourse, w`at the

majority view of the members in the mahobity tiew of t`e members in the

chamber is in relation to this chamber is an relation to this

issue. chamber is an relation to this

TRANSLATION: Many people believe chamber is an relation to this

TRANCL TINN2 anx people believe an TRANSLATINN: anx people believe an

oppobtunity TRANSLATINN: anx people believe an

opportunity was lost five years ago when

opportunity was lost five years ago whan Public

opportunity was lost five years ago when Public Health will

opportunity was lost five years ago within the health service. Do you

opportunity was lost five years ago believe we should

opportunity was lost five years ago believe we chould look

opportunity was lost five years ago believe we should look at whether

believe we chould look `t whether thare

believe we chould look `t whether there is a way of

thare is ` gay od restructurinf, shifding

thare is ` gay od restructurinf, shifting Public Health back into

thare is ` gay od restructurinf, local government?

TRANCL TINN2 local government?

TRANSLATION: That has been local government?

We have to be careful to local government?

We have to be capeful to ensure local government?

local government can deal with local govdrnment can deal with

Public Health. They would not be Pu`lic Healdh. Theq would not be

abhe Pu`lic Healdh. Theq would not be

able to do Pu`lic Healdh. Theq would not be

abhe to dn co at Pu`lic Healdh. Theq would not be

able to do so at present, in my abhe to dn co at present, in mx

opinaon. abhe to dn co at present, in mx

opinion. The structure has abhe to dn co at present, in mx

opinaon. The structure has to abhe to dn co at present, in mx

opinion. The structure has to be abhe to dn co at present, in mx

thare and abhe to dn co at present, in mx

there and then abhe to dn co at present, in mx

thare and t`en we abhe to dn co at present, in mx

there and then we have to thare and t`en we `ave to conshder

whic` powerc thare and t`en we `ave to conshder

which powers could be given. whic` powerc could be ghven. Whth

larger whic` powerc could be ghven. Whth

lapger bodies, whic` powerc could be ghven. Whth

larger bodies, it whic` powerc could be ghven. Whth

lapger bodies, it as whic` powerc could be ghven. Whth

larger bodies, it as fahr to consader

larger bodies, it as fahr to consider what powers they should

larger bodies, it as fahr to have the fudure. Could

larger bodies, it as fahr to have the future. Could be

larger bodies, it as fahr to considered. But only once the

larger bodies, it as fahr to restructuring has

restbuctuping har `appened. What does the Welsh govdrnmEnt

restbuctuping har `appened. What does the Welsh government do to

restbuctuping har `appened. protect and enhance biodiversity

restbuctuping har `appened. protect ald enhalce biodiversity in

Wahec? protect ald enhalce biodiversity in

Walec? We protect ald enhalce biodiversity in

Wales? We have a plan. And protect ald enhalce biodiversity in

Walec? We have a plan. @nd of bourse protect ald enhalce biodiversity in

the environment bill will ensure we protect ald enhalce biodiversity in

have the legislative framework to protect ald enhalce biodiversity in

manage resources. Thank you. Over protect ald enhalce biodiversity in

the last three years protect ald enhalce biodiversity in

the environmental sustainability protect ald enhalce biodiversity in

committee, we visited a number coimattee, ge visited a number of

impressivd coimattee, ge visited a number of

impressive subjects which have impressivd cubjects which have been

enhanced `y impressivd cubjects which have been

enhanced by biodiversity. impressivd cubjects which have been

enhanced `y biodiversity. Can impressivd cubjects which have been

assure me that the bills we have assube me that the bills we have

fort`comilg assube me that the bills we have

forthcoming in the fopthcomilg in the next two years

wihl protecd fopthcomilg in the next two years

will protect those fopthcomilg in the next two years

wihl protecd those initiatives, will protecd those initiatives,

alhog will protecd those initiatives,

allog us will protecd those initiatives,

allow us to have more of them, and will protecd those initiatives,

in particular detelop will protecd those initiatives,

in particular develop a will protecd those initiatives,

in particular detelop a sqstem for will protecd those initiatives,

paying people who will protecd those initiatives,

paying people whn provide thosd sort paying people who provide those sort

of ecological services to the people paying people who provide those sort

of Wales? Yes, there are schemes of Wales? Yes, there are schemds

whare farmebs of Wales? Yes, there are schemds

where farmers are of Wales? Yes, there are schemds

whare farmebs are ancentivised to ensube

whare farmebs are ancentivised to ensure that they

whare farmebs are ancentivised to ensube that they are

whare farmebs are ancentivised to ensure that they are able to provide

ensure th`t they are able to provide envibonmeltal

ensure th`t they are able to provide environmental resources. That will

be t`e environmental resources. That will

be the case in the future. We know environmental resources. That will

that payments environmental resources. That will

that paymends would environmental resources. That will

that payments would that time in the that paymdnds would that time hn the

fupube. that paymdnds would that time hn the

future. -- that paymdnds would that time hn the

fupube. -- will decline. fupube. -- gill decline. Farmers...

It started off ten years ago. The issue thel of

It started off ten years ago. The issue then of course is how

It started off ten years ago. The issue thel of course is how do

It started off ten years ago. The issue then of course is how do we

issue thel of course is how do we ensube,

issue thel of course is how do we ensure, for example, that flooding

continues ensure, for example, that flooding

contanues to ensure, for example, that flooding

continues to be dealt with? We contanues to be dealt wit`? We have

invected contanues to be dealt wit`? We have

invested in flood protection intected hn flood protectaon

schemes. We see what happened in intected hn flood protectaon

Wales. We had intected hn flood protectaon

Wahec. We had very intected hn flood protectaon

Wales. We had very few incidents intected hn flood protectaon

flooding compare to the Somerset flooding bompare to the Somersdt

Levels. Yes, we ban flooding bompare to the Somersdt

Levels. Yes, we can go so flooding bompare to the Somersdt

Levels. Yes, we ban go ro far hn termc

Levels. Yes, we ban go ro far hn terms of legislation but the

termc of legislation but the mnney has to follow. First Minister, one

has do follow. Fhrst Minister, one of the issues that has

has do follow. Fhrst Minister, one of t`e isrues that has `rasen hn

of t`e isrues th`t has `rasen hn frond of

of t`e isrues th`t has `rasen hn front of the committee is about

frond of the comlittee hs about dapa,

frond of the comlittee hs about data, particularly baseline data

frond of the comlittee hs about biodiversity can be

frond of the comlittee hs about biodivershtq can be measured.

biodavershtq can be mearured. @ lot of local ,- a

biodavershtq can be mearured. @ lot of local -- a lot of local

biodavershtq can be mearured. @ lot of local ,- a lot of local records

biodavershtq can be mearured. @ lot office hold that data. It is not

ofdice hold that data. Ht is nnt claab

ofdice hold that data. Ht is nnt clear if it is the

ofdice hold that data. Ht is nnt cleab if ht is the worse

ofdice hold that data. Ht is nnt clear if it is the worse comment or

natural clear if it is the worse comment or

napubal resources clear if it is the worse comment or

natural resources Wales that natubal resources Wales t`at is

coordinating this data hub. Can you clarafy

coordinating this data hub. Can you clarify this? And will you tell us

coordinating this data hub. Can you when the hub will be available?

Without thad when the hub will be available?

Without that data, we cannot measure when the hub will be available?

progress. It when the hub will be available?

progbess. It is a when the hub will be available?

progress. It is a Welsh government progbess. Id is ` Welsh governlent

hub. Work is ongoing to make sure it is ac robtst as possible

hub. Work is ongoing to make sure it is as robust as possible and

is ac robtsd as possible and it fits in with the recovery plan.

in wath the recotery plan. TRANCL TINN2

in wath the recotery plan. TRANSLATION: First

in wath the recotery plan. TRANCLATINN2 First Minister

in wath the recotery plan. TRANSLATION: First Minister, will

in wath the recotery plan. you confirm your government's

commitment you confirm your government's

commatment do you confirm your government's

commitment to one you confirm your government's

coimatment do ond Wales, you confirm your government's

commitment to one Wales, one planet, you confirm your government's

and to ensure you confirm your government's

and do enrure that you confirm your government's

and to ensure that Wales you confirm your government's

wiphan its you confirm your government's

withan its environmental means> How you confirm your government's

is that being reflected in your is t`at bding redlected in your

progbamme for government? programme for goternment?

TRANCL TINN2 programme for goternment?

TRANSLATINN: his was one programme for goternment?

TRANSLATION: This was one name, programme for goternment?

course, the future generations bill. coqrce, the futupe generations bill.

I am sure members will look forward coqrce, the futupe generations bill.

to seeing t`e announcemdnt coqrce, the futupe generations bill.

to seeing the announcement that coqrce, the futupe generations bill.

What assessment have you made of the coqrce, the futupe generations bill.

performance of the construction coqrce, the futupe generations bill.

sector in Wales? The coqrce, the futupe generations bill.

sector in Wales? T`e figures publashed

sector in Wales? T`e figures published in April showed

sector in Wales? T`e figures publashed in pril showed the

sector in Wales? T`e figures construction sector is outperforming

colsdruction sector is nutperforming tha

colsdruction sector is nutperforming the UK. The index of construction

colsdruction sector is nutperforming for Wales

colsdruction sector is nutperforming fop Wales s`ows

colsdruction sector is nutperforming for Wales shows a

colsdruction sector is nutperforming fop Wales s`ows ` 6.9% hncrease

colsdruction sector is nutperforming compared with the

coipared with thd latest foreauarterc.

coipared with thd latest forequarters. UK output increased by

fopeauarterc. UK output increared by 1.1%. I very much

fopeauarterc. UK output increared by increase. 16% of t`e

fopeauarterc. UK output increared by increase. 16% of the businesses in

my constituency are actually construction

my constituency are actually colsdruction businesses.

my constituency are actually construction businesses. There

consdruction bushnesses. There are many job opportunities

consdruction bushnesses. There are many job op`ortulities `nd

maly job op`ortunities `nd apprentices`ips. One

maly job op`ortunities `nd apprenticeships. One of the issues

maly job op`ortunities `nd that concerns me is that we want

maly job op`ortunities `nd people to have those jobs and be

abhe people to have those jobs and be

able to work people to have those jobs and be

able to worc safelq. Thd people to have those jobs and be

able to work safely. The Tory able to work safelq. Thd Tory

govebnment able to work safelq. Thd Tory

government has cut ?18 million gotebnment `as cut ?18 lillion of

tha gotebnment `as cut ?18 lillion of

the `ealth gotebnment `as cut ?18 lillion of

the health and safety executive and gotebnment `as cut ?18 lillion of

proactive inspections have fallen by gotebnment `as cut ?18 lillion of

35%. Wales health and safety may not gotebnment `as cut ?18 lillion of

be a devolved matter. The consequenbe

be a devolved matter. The consequence of accidents at

be a devolved matter. The really are. Would he consider making

really are. Would `e consader laking representataons to ascertain

pracasely what representataons to ascertain

precisely what his plan with representataons to ascertain

to the quality of health representataons to ascertain

to the qu`lity od `ealth and safety representataons to ascertain

services within Wales, with a view representataons to ascertain

to making a statement in the future? representataons to ascertain

Yes. We dn representataons to ascertain

Yes. We do not know what is in the representataons to ascertain

coming's speech but it will not be coiing's rpeech `ut it vill not be

very long. Every year, I proudly very long, Every year, H proudly

take part in Workers Memorial Day. take part in orkers Memorial Day.

Evarq take part in orkers Memorial Day.

Every year, there take part in orkers Memorial Day.

Evarq yeap, there are people take part in orkers Memorial Day.

Every year, there are people injured take part in orkers Memorial Day.

and killed at work. The answer is an` cilled at wopk. he answer is

not too and safety an` cilled at wopk. he answer is

not doo ald safety legislation an` cilled at wopk. he answer is

not too and safety legislation to an` cilled at wopk. he answer is

enable more people to be killed and injured

enable more people to be killed and inhubed at

enable more people to be killed and injured at work. We've had a proud

enable more people to be killed and record in the UK over the years of

enable more people to be killed and making sure

enable more people to be killed and making supe people have a very good

chance of coming home after thdy've bean to

chance of coming home after thdy've been to work. Any suggestion

chance of coming home after thdy've deregulation or lack of inspection

chance of coming home after thdy've when it

chance of coming home after thdy've whan it comes

chance of coming home after thdy've when it comes to health and safety

chance of coming home after thdy've can only lead to more people

can only lead to more pdople bding injubed ald

can only lead to more pdople bding injured and killed and that is

can only lead to more pdople bding something that we deplore.

can only lead to more pdople bding construction firms who run older

can only lead to more pdople bding properties remain at

can only lead to more pdople bding properties bemail at a

can only lead to more pdople bding properties remain at a disadvantage

properties bemail at a disadvantage un`eb

properties bemail at a disadvantage under Welsh

properties bemail at a disadvantage undeb Welsh Help

properties bemail at a disadvantage under Welsh Help To Buy. But some

undeb Welsh Help To uy. But snme developers

undeb Welsh Help To uy. But snme detelopers are either

developers are eit`er are unclear aboud the

developers are eit`er are unclear about the relationship

developers are eit`er are unclear aboud the relationship between the

developers are eit`er are unclear scheme and farious

developers are eit`er are unclear scheme and various purchasing

scheme and farious purchasing incentives or a creative with

scheme and farious purchasing incentives or a creativd with their

incentives or a creative with their relationship. Can you

reladionshi`. Cal qou outline how yoq

reladionshi`. Cal qou outline how you outlile

reladionshi`. Cal qou outline how you outline how

yoq outlile how xour monitorinf correct implementation of the

correct implementation nf the rcheme so id can

correct implementation nf the rcheme so it can continue to support

correct implementation nf the rcheme construction in

correct implementation nf the rcheme colstruction in Wales?

correct implementation nf the rcheme construction in Wales? I

correct implementation nf the rcheme colstruction in Wales? I cnow

correct implementation nf the rcheme consultant was recently appointed to

conseltant gas recently appointed to manage thd

conseltant gas recently appointed to manage the issue. In

conseltant gas recently appointed to manage thd assue, An terms

conseltant gas recently appointed to manage the issue. In terms of Help

manage thd assue, An terms of Help To Bey,

manage thd assue, An terms of Help To Buy, 105 developers have

To Bey, 105 developers have registered

To Bey, 105 developers have regictered gith

To Bey, 105 developers have registered with this

To Bey, 105 developers have registered gith thas scheme 66

regictered gith thas scheme. 66 are currently offering help to buy

regictered gith thas scheme. 66 are currently offerilg help to buy and

cuprently offerilg help to buy and that shows dhe

cuprently offerilg help to buy and that shows the scheme

cuprently offerilg help to buy and that shows dhe sbheme is working,

that there as that shows dhe sbheme is working,

that there is general awareness of that there as geleral avarenesr of

the scheme among developers and that there are a first-time buqers

the scheme among developers and that there are a first-time buyers now

there are a first-time buqers now abhe

there are a first-time buqers now able to h`ve

there are a first-time buqers now able to have a roof over their heads

as a result of the action of the Wehs` govdrnment, As

as a result of the action of the Welsh government. Is it true that

Welsh govdrnment, As it true that yoqr

Welsh govdrnment, As it true that your government

yoqr govepnment pecently slashdd the target for reducing CO2

yoqr govepnment pecently slashdd the tapget for beducing CO2 emissions in

yoqr govepnment pecently slashdd the building ped

yoqr govepnment pecently slashdd the building red Galatians PROM

yoqr govepnment pecently slashdd the 8% -- buildang regulations

yoqr govepnment pecently slashdd the 8% -- building regulations from 40%

yoqr govepnment pecently slashdd the to 8%? This announcement was made

to 8%? Thhs announcement was m`de by tha

to 8%? Thhs announcement was m`de by the minister last year, certainly

to 8%? Thhs announcement was m`de by some time ago now, where we

to 8%? Thhs announcement was m`de by alhoged the

to 8%? Thhs announcement was m`de by allowed the sector more time in

to 8%? Thhs announcement was m`de by order to meet the new set of

building pegulations. order to meet the new set of

building regulations. Given the order to meet the new set of

sipuation wath regard to order to meet the new set of

situation with regard to the housing order to meet the new set of

market that was something that we market th`t was romething that we

wanted to do at the time. There was wanted to do at the timd. There was

a real danger we would end up with wanted to do at the timd. There was

feweb hourec wanted to do at the timd. There was

fewer houses being wanted to do at the timd. There was

feweb hourec beilg built wanted to do at the timd. There was

fewer houses being built because feweb hourec beilg built becaure of

nop feweb hourec beilg built becaure of

not allowing timd feweb hourec beilg built becaure of

not allowing time for the developers feweb hourec beilg built becaure of

to adapt. I reach -- believe we have feweb hourec beilg built becaure of

reached a very accept feweb hourec beilg built becaure of

reac`ed a very abcept a reached a very accept a ball

compromise that has reached a very accept a ball

coipbomisd dhat has allowed more coipromise dhat has allowed more

firsd-timd buyers firsd-timd buyers to have a home.

first-time buyers to have a home. firsd-timd buyers to have a home.

Figures produced by the Treasury at firsd-timd buyers to have a home.

the end of May indicate that firsd-timd buyers to have a home.

7300 homes sold and the Help To Buy firsd-timd buyers to have a home.

scheme, just about 5% were actually firsd-timd buyers to have a home.

sold in Wales, the firsd-timd buyers to have a home.

sout`-east Gales, Given firsd-timd buyers to have a home.

south-east Wales. Given that you have

south-east Wales. Given that you hate givel

south-east Wales. Given that you have given figures on the Welsh

south-east Wales. Given that you scheme, can you say how many of

scheme, can you raq how many of those homes were built outside

those homds were built nutside of soqt`-east

those homds were built nutside of south-east Wales,

those homds were built nutside of sout`-east Gales, particularly in

south-east Wales, particularly in the areas that need it most in the