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Good afternoon. Welcome to am.pm, Good afternoon. Welcome to am.pm,

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Good afternoon. Welcome to am.pm, and all weekly coverage of First

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and all weekly coverage of First and all weekly coverage of First

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Minister 's questions. A mixed bag Minister 's questions. A mixed bag

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Minister 's questions. A mixed bag of issues coming up today. Questions

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of issues coming up today. Questions of issues coming up today. Questions

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on the NHS, including plans to on the NHS, including plans to

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on the NHS, including plans to change near NATO provision. Carwyn

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change near NATO provision. Carwyn change near NATO provision. Carwyn

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change near NATO provision. Carwyn Jones will also be asked about child

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Jones will also be asked about child Jones will also be asked about child

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poverty, road safety, and the poverty, road safety, and the

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poverty, road safety, and the proposals for a new Welsh honours

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proposals for a new Welsh honours proposals for a new Welsh honours

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proposals for a new Welsh honours system. We want to hear from you,

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system. We want to hear from you, system. We want to hear from you,

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system. We want to hear from you, too. You can comment on anything on

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too. You can comment on anything on too. You can comment on anything on

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this program or anything else Business in the chamber has already

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Business in the chamber has already Business in the chamber has already

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kicked off so let's go over there kicked off so let's go over there

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kicked off so let's go over there for questions to the first-minister.

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for questions to the first-minister. for questions to the first-minister.

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The first item, the first question The first item, the first question

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The first item, the first question this afternoon. What support is the

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this afternoon. What support is the worst Government giving to

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worst Government giving to worst Government giving to

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International women's Day? The Welsh International women's Day? The Welsh

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Government is supporting Government is supporting

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International women's day by International women's day by

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International women's day by providing funding to 34 events and

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providing funding to 34 events and providing funding to 34 events and

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Since the first International Since the first International

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Since the first International women's Day 100 years ago, women

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women's Day 100 years ago, women women's Day 100 years ago, women

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women's Day 100 years ago, women have made great strides in all walks

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have made great strides in all walks have made great strides in all walks

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have made great strides in all walks of life, but the number of women in

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of life, but the number of women in of life, but the number of women in

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of life, but the number of women in positions of influence in the UK has

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positions of influence in the UK has positions of influence in the UK has

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plummeted. UK Government policy has plummeted. UK Government policy has

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plummeted. UK Government policy has meant the number of unemployed young

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meant the number of unemployed young women has increased

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women has increased disproportionately. We support the

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disproportionately. We support the Welsh Government gives to

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Welsh Government gives to Welsh Government gives to

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International women's Day is very International women's Day is very

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International women's Day is very welcome indeed but what other

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welcome indeed but what other welcome indeed but what other

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encouragement can you give to encouragement can you give to

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encouragement can you give to encouragement can you give to

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women? We want to ensure at least women? We want to ensure at least

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women? We want to ensure at least 40% of public appointments in Wales

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40% of public appointments in Wales 40% of public appointments in Wales

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40% of public appointments in Wales are filled I women. This is also

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are filled I women. This is also are filled I women. This is also

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reflected in our strategic equality reflected in our strategic equality

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reflected in our strategic equality plan. International women's Day is a

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plan. International women's Day is a great day to celebrate

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great day to celebrate great day to celebrate

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entrepreneurial women as well. Can entrepreneurial women as well. Can

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entrepreneurial women as well. Can entrepreneurial women as well. Can

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you tell me whether you have had any you tell me whether you have had any

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conversations with your education conversations with your education

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conversations with your education Minister about promoting business to

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Minister about promoting business to Minister about promoting business to

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Minister about promoting business to girls at school? I cannot say I have

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girls at school? I cannot say I have had specific conversations about

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had specific conversations about had specific conversations about

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those issues. I heard your answer those issues. I heard your answer

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those issues. I heard your answer about women getting to the top.

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about women getting to the top. about women getting to the top.

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about women getting to the top. Would you like to speculate when you

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Would you like to speculate when you Would you like to speculate when you

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Would you like to speculate when you think this assembly will be led by a

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woman? LAUGHTER

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LAUGHTER LAUGHTER

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LAUGHTER That is a matter for the Welsh

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That is a matter for the Welsh electorate. We'll be first-minister

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electorate. We'll be first-minister electorate. We'll be first-minister

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electorate. We'll be first-minister make a statement on child poverty in

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make a statement on child poverty in make a statement on child poverty in

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Cardiff South and Penarth? Tackling Cardiff South and Penarth? Tackling

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Cardiff South and Penarth? Tackling child poverty is a priority. We

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child poverty is a priority. We child poverty is a priority. We

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participate in a pilot approach to participate in a pilot approach to

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participate in a pilot approach to youth employment mentors. You may be

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youth employment mentors. You may be youth employment mentors. You may be

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aware that statistics released in aware that statistics released in

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aware that statistics released in aware that statistics released in

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January this year by the end child January this year by the end child

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January this year by the end child poverty campaign group show that

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poverty campaign group show that poverty campaign group show that

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Cardiff South and Penarth has the Cardiff South and Penarth has the

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Cardiff South and Penarth has the highest percentage and volume of

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highest percentage and volume of highest percentage and volume of

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numbers of children living in numbers of children living in

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numbers of children living in numbers of children living in

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poverty in Wales, with over 30% in poverty in Wales, with over 30% in

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poverty in Wales, with over 30% in that category. I accept that you

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that category. I accept that you that category. I accept that you

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that category. I accept that you have an impact. My concern is what

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have an impact. My concern is what have an impact. My concern is what

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have an impact. My concern is what the impact would be worthy in terms

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the impact would be worthy in terms the impact would be worthy in terms

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the impact would be worthy in terms not to exist. Can you make a comment

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not to exist. Can you make a comment not to exist. Can you make a comment

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on the ongoing strategy on child on the ongoing strategy on child

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on the ongoing strategy on child poverty? The figures do inform us

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poverty? The figures do inform us poverty? The figures do inform us

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very strongly in terms of our very strongly in terms of our

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very strongly in terms of our actions to tackle child poverty. A

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actions to tackle child poverty. A actions to tackle child poverty. A

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number of communities in Cardiff number of communities in Cardiff

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number of communities in Cardiff South and Penarth have already

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South and Penarth have already South and Penarth have already

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benefited from one of our schemes, benefited from one of our schemes,

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benefited from one of our schemes, benefited from one of our schemes,

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for example. Once due - back one for example. Once due - back one

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for example. Once due - back one primary school has been awarded

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primary school has been awarded primary school has been awarded

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millions of pounds. Given that Wales millions of pounds. Given that Wales

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millions of pounds. Given that Wales has the highest levels of child

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has the highest levels of child has the highest levels of child

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has the highest levels of child poverty in the UK based on relative

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poverty in the UK based on relative poverty in the UK based on relative

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measures of child poverty, 60% of measures of child poverty, 60% of

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measures of child poverty, 60% of household median income, given the

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household median income, given the household median income, given the

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consequences of that, that is even consequences of that, that is even

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consequences of that, that is even when relative poverty falls, real

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when relative poverty falls, real when relative poverty falls, real

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when relative poverty falls, real income may not be rising and poverty

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income may not be rising and poverty income may not be rising and poverty

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income may not be rising and poverty may be stable or increasing. How do

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may be stable or increasing. How do may be stable or increasing. How do

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you respond to proposals of you respond to proposals of

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you respond to proposals of definitions of trial poverty being

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definitions of trial poverty being definitions of trial poverty being

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definitions of trial poverty being changed? These are issues that are a

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changed? These are issues that are a changed? These are issues that are a

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matter of consultation on behalf of matter of consultation on behalf of

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matter of consultation on behalf of the UK Government. We will be

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the UK Government. We will be the UK Government. We will be

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answering the consultation to ensure answering the consultation to ensure

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answering the consultation to ensure that statistics produced in the

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that statistics produced in the that statistics produced in the

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future are as accurate as possible. future are as accurate as possible.

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future are as accurate as possible. future are as accurate as possible.

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We move to questions to the party We move to questions to the party

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We move to questions to the party leaders. The leader of the

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leaders. The leader of the opposition. Thank you. Presiding

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opposition. Thank you. Presiding opposition. Thank you. Presiding

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Officer, in a recent Government Officer, in a recent Government

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consultation on community health consultation on community health

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councils, that consultation said councils, that consultation said

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that properly functioning community that properly functioning community

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that properly functioning community health councils are an important

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health councils are an important health councils are an important

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health councils are an important part of the fabric of the Welch NHS.

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part of the fabric of the Welch NHS. part of the fabric of the Welch NHS.

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Does the first-minister agree with Does the first-minister agree with

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Does the first-minister agree with that statement? Yes. I am pleased,

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that statement? Yes. I am pleased, that statement? Yes. I am pleased,

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because they provide a critical because they provide a critical

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because they provide a critical role. They carry out inspections of

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role. They carry out inspections of role. They carry out inspections of

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role. They carry out inspections of hospitals as well and are a force

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hospitals as well and are a force hospitals as well and are a force

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hospitals as well and are a force for good in our Welsh NHS. Why isn't

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for good in our Welsh NHS. Why isn't for good in our Welsh NHS. Why isn't

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for good in our Welsh NHS. Why isn't there a case, then, that the Welsh

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there a case, then, that the Welsh there a case, then, that the Welsh

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Government have not started the Government have not started the

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recruitment process for appointing recruitment process for appointing

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recruitment process for appointing members to councils that should have

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members to councils that should have members to councils that should have

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members to councils that should have started last August? I am well aware

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started last August? I am well aware started last August? I am well aware

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of such delays. We know community of such delays. We know community

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health councils are exceptionally health councils are exceptionally

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health councils are exceptionally important and route their worth in

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important and route their worth in important and route their worth in

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important and route their worth in terms of the way they examine the

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terms of the way they examine the reconfiguration proposals. It is

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reconfiguration proposals. It is reconfiguration proposals. It is

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disappointing to note that you were disappointing to note that you were

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disappointing to note that you were unaware, given that your own comment

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unaware, given that your own comment unaware, given that your own comment

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on community health councils showed on community health councils showed

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on community health councils showed on community health councils showed

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that you hold such store by them. In that you hold such store by them. In

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that you hold such store by them. In reform is by the previous health

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reform is by the previous health Minister there are particular

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Minister there are particular Minister there are particular

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appointments made to enable them to appointments made to enable them to

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appointments made to enable them to appointments made to enable them to

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carry out their jobs as boards and carry out their jobs as boards and

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inspection processes, for patients. inspection processes, for patients.

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inspection processes, for patients. inspection processes, for patients.

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April the 1st is when the first new April the 1st is when the first new

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April the 1st is when the first new April the 1st is when the first new

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term is going to be carried out and term is going to be carried out and

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term is going to be carried out and get no appointments have been

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get no appointments have been get no appointments have been

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named. This process takes six months named. This process takes six months

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named. This process takes six months to complete and therefore, for at

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to complete and therefore, for at to complete and therefore, for at

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least half a year, many community least half a year, many community

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least half a year, many community health councils are going to find

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health councils are going to find health councils are going to find

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themselves unable to carry out the themselves unable to carry out the

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themselves unable to carry out the many functions they have to

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many functions they have to many functions they have to

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undertake. Will you make sure that undertake. Will you make sure that

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undertake. Will you make sure that the process begins today said that

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the process begins today said that the process begins today said that

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the process begins today said that those appointments can be made in as

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those appointments can be made in as those appointments can be made in as

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short a time as possible, because short a time as possible, because

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short a time as possible, because the board of community health

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the board of community health the board of community health

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councils have been engaging with councils have been engaging with

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councils have been engaging with councils have been engaging with

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your Government and to date have not your Government and to date have not

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your Government and to date have not received an answer why your

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received an answer why your received an answer why your

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Government has not been making Government has not been making

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Government has not been making appointments? The work will be done

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appointments? The work will be done appointments? The work will be done

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in the appropriate time. It is in the appropriate time. It is

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essential that community councils essential that community councils

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essential that community councils continue as they have been.

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continue as they have been. continue as they have been.

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continue as they have been. There has been a 700% increase in

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There has been a 700% increase in There has been a 700% increase in

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prosecutions of parents in the last prosecutions of parents in the last

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prosecutions of parents in the last five years. Your former education

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five years. Your former education minister said that prosecutions

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minister said that prosecutions minister said that prosecutions

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minister said that prosecutions should be very much a last resort

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should be very much a last resort should be very much a last resort

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and your current education Minister and your current education Minister

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and your current education Minister said that he expects a zero

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said that he expects a zero said that he expects a zero

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tolerance of truancy. Why has your tolerance of truancy. Why has your

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tolerance of truancy. Why has your Government failed to get to grips

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Government failed to get to grips Government failed to get to grips

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Government failed to get to grips with truancy rates? Surely it is an

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with truancy rates? Surely it is an with truancy rates? Surely it is an

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indication that the truancy is being indication that the truancy is being

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indication that the truancy is being indication that the truancy is being

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dealt with. It is being dealt with dealt with. It is being dealt with

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dealt with. It is being dealt with dealt with. It is being dealt with

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in a robust way. Really your chief in a robust way. Really your chief

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in a robust way. Really your chief inspector of schools in annual

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inspector of schools in annual inspector of schools in annual

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report says that attendance remains report says that attendance remains

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report says that attendance remains the weakest aspect of for schools

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the weakest aspect of for schools the weakest aspect of for schools

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the weakest aspect of for schools and attendance is not good enough in

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and attendance is not good enough in and attendance is not good enough in

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over one third secondary schools and over one third secondary schools and

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over one third secondary schools and it varies too much between primary

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it varies too much between primary it varies too much between primary

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schools in the most and least deprived areas.

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deprived areas. deprived areas.

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Of course, back in 2006, Doctor Of course, back in 2006, Doctor

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Of course, back in 2006, Doctor Reeve was commissioned by your

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Reeve was commissioned by your Government to review national

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Government to review national Government to review national

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attendance and he presented his attendance and he presented his

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attendance and he presented his attendance and he presented his

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report five years ago. Since then we report five years ago. Since then we

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report five years ago. Since then we have had two covenant action plans

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have had two covenant action plans have had two covenant action plans

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and a national implementation plan and a national implementation plan

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and a national implementation plan and a national implementation plan

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so it went to actually see the so it went to actually see the

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so it went to actually see the findings of that report being

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findings of that report being findings of that report being

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implemented and progress made? She implemented and progress made? She

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implemented and progress made? She implemented and progress made? She

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does not seem to know that actually does not seem to know that actually

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does not seem to know that actually the level of absenteeism is

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the level of absenteeism is the level of absenteeism is

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decreasing in Welsh schools. decreasing in Welsh schools.

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decreasing in Welsh schools. attendance in primary and secondary

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attendance in primary and secondary attendance in primary and secondary

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schools is. That shows the measures schools is. That shows the measures

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schools is. That shows the measures schools is. That shows the measures

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we are taking in this area are we are taking in this area are

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we are taking in this area are having a positive impact. It has

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having a positive impact. It has having a positive impact. It has

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having a positive impact. It has having a positive impact. It has

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gone up by 0.8% and that is why your gone up by 0.8% and that is why your

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gone up by 0.8% and that is why your national inspector continues to say

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national inspector continues to say national inspector continues to say

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it is the weakest aspect of it is the weakest aspect of

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it is the weakest aspect of well-being in your schools, and one

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well-being in your schools, and one well-being in your schools, and one

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third of secondary schools has third of secondary schools has

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third of secondary schools has attendance that is not good enough.

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attendance that is not good enough. attendance that is not good enough.

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attendance that is not good enough. Let me tell you what the independent

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Let me tell you what the independent expert that your Government

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expert that your Government expert that your Government

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previously employed to look at these previously employed to look at these

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previously employed to look at these issues on your behalf said. But

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issues on your behalf said. But issues on your behalf said. But

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issues on your behalf said. But progress has been made - -- progress

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progress has been made - -- progress progress has been made - -- progress

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has been painfully slow. Wales is has been painfully slow. Wales is

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has been painfully slow. Wales is has been painfully slow. Wales is

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the only country that does not have the only country that does not have

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the only country that does not have a strategy in place. Despite what

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a strategy in place. Despite what a strategy in place. Despite what

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a strategy in place. Despite what was said five years ago, he says

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was said five years ago, he says was said five years ago, he says

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nothing has happened. Nothing has nothing has happened. Nothing has

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nothing has happened. Nothing has nothing has happened. Nothing has

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happened. Isn't it your job to make happened. Isn't it your job to make

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happened. Isn't it your job to make sure something happens? She only saw

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sure something happens? She only saw sure something happens? She only saw

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sure something happens? She only saw the figures, and I will read them

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the figures, and I will read them the figures, and I will read them

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the figures, and I will read them the figures, and I will read them

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out to her so she is aware of them. out to her so she is aware of them.

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out to her so she is aware of them. out to her so she is aware of them.

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Between 2006 to seven and 2000 and Between 2006 to seven and 2000 and

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Between 2006 to seven and 2000 and 2011, absence in primary schools was

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2011, absence in primary schools was 2011, absence in primary schools was

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2011, absence in primary schools was 2011, absence in primary schools was

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stable but in 2011 to 2012 it saw a stable but in 2011 to 2012 it saw a

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stable but in 2011 to 2012 it saw a drop. She's massaging the figures.

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drop. She's massaging the figures. drop. She's massaging the figures.

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drop. She's massaging the figures. In 2011 to 2012, 2.6 percent of

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In 2011 to 2012, 2.6 percent of In 2011 to 2012, 2.6 percent of

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primary pupils were absent. That is primary pupils were absent. That is

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primary pupils were absent. That is a significant degree is when you

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a significant degree is when you a significant degree is when you

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consider the original figure. That consider the original figure. That

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consider the original figure. That is something she completely forgets.

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is something she completely forgets. First-minister, it is particularly

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First-minister, it is particularly First-minister, it is particularly

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worrying that living standards in worrying that living standards in

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worrying that living standards in worrying that living standards in

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Wales have fallen more than the rest Wales have fallen more than the rest

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Wales have fallen more than the rest Wales have fallen more than the rest

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of the UK. Those are not my words of the UK. Those are not my words

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of the UK. Those are not my words but the words of shadow Welsh

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but the words of shadow Welsh but the words of shadow Welsh

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Minister at Westminster, a member of Minister at Westminster, a member of

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your party. First-minister, you your party. First-minister, you

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your party. First-minister, you your party. First-minister, you

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promised to stand up for Wales and promised to stand up for Wales and

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promised to stand up for Wales and to provide a shield to protect

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to provide a shield to protect to provide a shield to protect

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to provide a shield to protect people against the worst of the Tory

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people against the worst of the Tory people against the worst of the Tory

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people against the worst of the Tory cuts. Seeing how Welsh MPs in your

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cuts. Seeing how Welsh MPs in your cuts. Seeing how Welsh MPs in your

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cuts. Seeing how Welsh MPs in your party seem to think you have failed

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party seem to think you have failed party seem to think you have failed

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to provide that shield, are they to provide that shield, are they

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to provide that shield, are they to provide that shield, are they

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write? Who said it? Owen Smith said write? Who said it? Owen Smith said

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write? Who said it? Owen Smith said it is particularly worrying that

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it is particularly worrying that it is particularly worrying that

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living standards in Wales have living standards in Wales have

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living standards in Wales have living standards in Wales have

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fallen faster than the rest of the fallen faster than the rest of the

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fallen faster than the rest of the UK? I will doublecheck this evening

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UK? I will doublecheck this evening UK? I will doublecheck this evening

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UK? I will doublecheck this evening with him that he actually said that.

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with him that he actually said that. with him that he actually said that.

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with him that he actually said that. with him that he actually said that.

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But we are doing what we can to help But we are doing what we can to help

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But we are doing what we can to help But we are doing what we can to help

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people. We do rely on the UK people. We do rely on the UK

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people. We do rely on the UK Government to do its bit which

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Government to do its bit which Government to do its bit which

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Government to do its bit which clearly at the moment it is not

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clearly at the moment it is not clearly at the moment it is not

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clearly at the moment it is not doing. I wonder who is leading the

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doing. I wonder who is leading the doing. I wonder who is leading the

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party in Wales. 40,000 households in party in Wales. 40,000 households in

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party in Wales. 40,000 households in Wales will be affected by the

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Wales will be affected by the Wales will be affected by the

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bedroom tax introduced in April. It bedroom tax introduced in April. It

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bedroom tax introduced in April. It is a worsening situation for many

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is a worsening situation for many is a worsening situation for many

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who are already skipping meals in who are already skipping meals in

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who are already skipping meals in who are already skipping meals in

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order to make ends meet. A report order to make ends meet. A report

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order to make ends meet. A report recommends that your Government does

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recommends that your Government does recommends that your Government does

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much more to mitigate the effect. much more to mitigate the effect.

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much more to mitigate the effect. One of the recommendations is that

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One of the recommendations is that local Government use their

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local Government use their discretionary housing payment to

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discretionary housing payment to discretionary housing payment to

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prevent problems. Also ensure that prevent problems. Also ensure that

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prevent problems. Also ensure that services are properly funded to deal

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services are properly funded to deal services are properly funded to deal

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with the impact of complicated when with the impact of complicated when

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with the impact of complicated when fits. Will you commit to

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fits. Will you commit to implementing the recommendations in

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implementing the recommendations in implementing the recommendations in

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that report? If they are affordable that report? If they are affordable

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that report? If they are affordable that report? If they are affordable

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and will help the people. What we and will help the people. What we

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and will help the people. What we and will help the people. What we

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cannot do is make up the funding cannot do is make up the funding

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cannot do is make up the funding cannot do is make up the funding

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shortfall that is put in place by shortfall that is put in place by

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shortfall that is put in place by shortfall that is put in place by

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the UK Government. We know that when the UK Government. We know that when

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the UK Government. We know that when the UK Government. We know that when

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it comes to reform there are many it comes to reform there are many

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it comes to reform there are many it comes to reform there are many

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people in Wales who will lose out as people in Wales who will lose out as

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people in Wales who will lose out as people in Wales who will lose out as

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a result of the bedroom tax. Many of a result of the bedroom tax. Many of

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a result of the bedroom tax. Many of the measures that the UK Government

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the measures that the UK Government the measures that the UK Government

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the measures that the UK Government are putting in place. I intend to

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are putting in place. I intend to are putting in place. I intend to

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make that point strongly with the make that point strongly with the

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joint ministerial Council tomorrow. joint ministerial Council tomorrow.

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Question three. Will the Question three. Will the

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Question three. Will the first-minister provide an update on

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We can educate children and car We can educate children and car

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We can educate children and car drivers with the dangers associated

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drivers with the dangers associated drivers with the dangers associated

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with the road, which includes a with the road, which includes a

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with the road, which includes a provision of grant funding, six by

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provision of grant funding, six by provision of grant funding, six by

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provision of grant funding, six by and �5 million, which can be used

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and �5 million, which can be used for national standards cycle

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for national standards cycle for national standards cycle

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 65 seconds

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TRANSLATION: In turning to speed in TRANSLATION: In turning to speed in

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travelling along the roads in Wales, travelling along the roads in Wales,

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I have been trying to discover I have been trying to discover

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I have been trying to discover through the Freedom of Information

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through the Freedom of Information through the Freedom of Information

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requests how people who break the requests how people who break the

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requests how people who break the speed limit are treated, and there

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speed limit are treated, and there is inconsistency throughout the

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is inconsistency throughout the is inconsistency throughout the

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Wales regarding the levels of speed Wales regarding the levels of speed

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Wales regarding the levels of speed Wales regarding the levels of speed

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you have to attain before a cases you have to attain before a cases

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you have to attain before a cases brought against you, and there is

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brought against you, and there is brought against you, and there is

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no assessment or speed awareness no assessment or speed awareness

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no assessment or speed awareness no assessment or speed awareness

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course to see what impact they have course to see what impact they have

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course to see what impact they have on driving habits. Would you look

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on driving habits. Would you look on driving habits. Would you look

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at this to ensure we have at this to ensure we have

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TRANSLATION: It is true to say that TRANSLATION: It is true to say that

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TRANSLATION: It is true to say that my just streets boards deal with

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my just streets boards deal with my just streets boards deal with

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cases in differing ways. You have cases in differing ways. You have

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some flexibility but we know that a some flexibility but we know that a

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road Wales the approach is road Wales the approach is

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road Wales the approach is different in dealing with crimes

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different in dealing with crimes different in dealing with crimes

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undertaken by drivers now. As a undertaken by drivers now. As a

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undertaken by drivers now. As a government, we find 20 mph were

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government, we find 20 mph were schemes throughout Wales, through

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schemes throughout Wales, through schemes throughout Wales, through

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grants such as the Regional Transport grant.

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Transport grant. Transport grant.

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The volume and speed of traffic The volume and speed of traffic

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The volume and speed of traffic been raised by many constituents

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been raised by many constituents been raised by many constituents

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been raised by many constituents who are concerned that the lack of

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who are concerned that the lack of who are concerned that the lack of

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an eastern road between Cardiff Bay an eastern road between Cardiff Bay

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an eastern road between Cardiff Bay and the motorway is forcing traffic

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and the motorway is forcing traffic and the motorway is forcing traffic

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to a residential streets posing a to a residential streets posing a

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to a residential streets posing a danger to pedestrians and cyclists.

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danger to pedestrians and cyclists. danger to pedestrians and cyclists.

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danger to pedestrians and cyclists. Would you agree it is time that we

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Would you agree it is time that we Would you agree it is time that we

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looked at that and completed the looked at that and completed the

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looked at that and completed the project? The projects can be looked

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project? The projects can be looked project? The projects can be looked

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project? The projects can be looked at in terms of finances. The link

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at in terms of finances. The link at in terms of finances. The link

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towards the motorway is a local towards the motorway is a local

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towards the motorway is a local authority road, so there are issues

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authority road, so there are issues authority road, so there are issues

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there. The council intends to there. The council intends to

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there. The council intends to introduce a range of measures to

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introduce a range of measures to introduce a range of measures to

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improve road safety in my improve road safety in my

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constituency, including lowering constituency, including lowering

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constituency, including lowering the speed limit outside the primary

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the speed limit outside the primary the speed limit outside the primary

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school. Do you agree that measures school. Do you agree that measures

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school. Do you agree that measures school. Do you agree that measures

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and in light of the disappointing and in light of the disappointing

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and in light of the disappointing and in light of the disappointing

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news today about health in the UK, news today about health in the UK,

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news today about health in the UK, in Cabinet -- comparison to other

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in Cabinet -- comparison to other in Cabinet -- comparison to other

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nations, do you agree this will nations, do you agree this will

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nations, do you agree this will nations, do you agree this will

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also help us tackle obesity? Yes, I also help us tackle obesity? Yes, I

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also help us tackle obesity? Yes, I do. One of the obstacles people

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do. One of the obstacles people do. One of the obstacles people

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sometimes have against walking and sometimes have against walking and

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sometimes have against walking and sometimes have against walking and

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TRANSLATION: What discussions has TRANSLATION: What discussions has

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TRANSLATION: What discussions has the Welsh government had with the

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the Welsh government had with the United Kingdom government,

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United Kingdom government, United Kingdom government,

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regarding plans to privatise the regarding plans to privatise the

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regarding plans to privatise the provision service? It has been

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provision service? It has been discussed with the prisons minister,

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discussed with the prisons minister, discussed with the prisons minister,

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and responded to the consultation and responded to the consultation

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and responded to the consultation to highlight Wales as a unique

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to highlight Wales as a unique to highlight Wales as a unique

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landscape, which needs to be taken landscape, which needs to be taken

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landscape, which needs to be taken landscape, which needs to be taken

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into account. I am pleased to hear into account. I am pleased to hear

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into account. I am pleased to hear the Welsh government is not in

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the Welsh government is not in the Welsh government is not in

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favour of privatisation, but the favour of privatisation, but the

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favour of privatisation, but the privatisation is taking place under

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privatisation is taking place under privatisation is taking place under

:19:19.:19:20.

legislation passed by the Labour legislation passed by the Labour

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legislation passed by the Labour legislation passed by the Labour

:19:21.:19:23.

Party when they were in power in Party when they were in power in

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Westminster, which undermines your Westminster, which undermines your

:19:27.:19:28.

Westminster, which undermines your argument. The important point here

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argument. The important point here argument. The important point here

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argument. The important point here is that Wales is treated as a unit

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is that Wales is treated as a unit is that Wales is treated as a unit

:19:33.:19:33.

is that Wales is treated as a unit to try to protect the integrity of

:19:33.:19:36.

to try to protect the integrity of to try to protect the integrity of

:19:36.:19:38.

the service in the light of the service in the light of

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the service in the light of privatising the 80% of the service,

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privatising the 80% of the service, privatising the 80% of the service,

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which is linked to many other which is linked to many other

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which is linked to many other services offered and funded by the

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services offered and funded by the services offered and funded by the

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government in Wales. What pressure government in Wales. What pressure

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government in Wales. What pressure government in Wales. What pressure

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can you bring to bear on the can you bring to bear on the

:19:49.:19:50.

Westminster government to ensure Westminster government to ensure

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Westminster government to ensure that the integrity of this service

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that the integrity of this service that the integrity of this service

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that the integrity of this service is retained? I would not be in

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is retained? I would not be in is retained? I would not be in

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favour of any structure that would favour of any structure that would

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favour of any structure that would confuse England and Wales, which is

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confuse England and Wales, which is confuse England and Wales, which is

:20:02.:20:03.

something we have said. Any something we have said. Any

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something we have said. Any structure that arises from these

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structure that arises from these changes should identify and

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changes should identify and changes should identify and

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recognise the fact that there recognise the fact that there

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recognise the fact that there should be no attempt to create

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should be no attempt to create should be no attempt to create

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cross-border bodies, but it is cross-border bodies, but it is

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cross-border bodies, but it is important that they represent Wales

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important that they represent Wales important that they represent Wales

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himself. As well as privatisation, himself. As well as privatisation,

:20:25.:20:27.

the Westminster government is the Westminster government is

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the Westminster government is planning to reduce the areas that

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planning to reduce the areas that planning to reduce the areas that

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will contract for packages of will contract for packages of

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will contract for packages of will contract for packages of

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services from 35-16. Has he had any services from 35-16. Has he had any

:20:37.:20:38.

services from 35-16. Has he had any reassurances that the boundaries of

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reassurances that the boundaries of reassurances that the boundaries of

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these packages areas... Also, the these packages areas... Also, the

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these packages areas... Also, the other devolved bodies? He said he

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other devolved bodies? He said he other devolved bodies? He said he

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other devolved bodies? He said he wished to see Wales as a discrete

:21:05.:21:06.

wished to see Wales as a discrete wished to see Wales as a discrete

:21:06.:21:07.

area, and he also indicated we area, and he also indicated we

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area, and he also indicated we would not be supportive of the

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would not be supportive of the would not be supportive of the

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payment by this policy. payment by this policy.

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payment by this policy. consultation was launched on this

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consultation was launched on this consultation was launched on this

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in January, with Wales probation in January, with Wales probation

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in January, with Wales probation in January, with Wales probation

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service having been one of the two service having been one of the two

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service having been one of the two pilots to help inform the

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pilots to help inform the development of the policy.

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development of the policy. development of the policy.

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According to the Secretary of State, According to the Secretary of State,

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According to the Secretary of State, According to the Secretary of State,

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he said he was impressed with what he said he was impressed with what

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he said he was impressed with what he said he was impressed with what

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had been done in Wales forging a had been done in Wales forging a

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had been done in Wales forging a new approach, but that the public

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new approach, but that the public sector probation service will

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sector probation service will sector probation service will

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sector probation service will continue to look at the risk of

:21:36.:21:37.

continue to look at the risk of continue to look at the risk of

:21:37.:21:38.

harmful offenders in the community. harmful offenders in the community.

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harmful offenders in the community. harmful offenders in the community.

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How do you respond to the statement, How do you respond to the statement,

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How do you respond to the statement, we believe the introduction of

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we believe the introduction of we believe the introduction of

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payment by results offers exciting payment by results offers exciting

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opportunities for engaging with opportunities for engaging with

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opportunities for engaging with partners in the development of new

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partners in the development of new partners in the development of new

:21:57.:21:57.

ways of rehabilitating offenders? ways of rehabilitating offenders?

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ways of rehabilitating offenders? ways of rehabilitating offenders?

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do not think it works if you pay do not think it works if you pay

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 65 seconds

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do not think it works if you pay You will be aware that there are

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You will be aware that there are You will be aware that there are

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You will be aware that there are lessons to be learned from the mid-

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lessons to be learned from the mid- Staffordshire report. Does it

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Staffordshire report. Does it Staffordshire report. Does it

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concern new that the public concern new that the public

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accounts committee took evidence accounts committee took evidence

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accounts committee took evidence into its maternity services, and

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into its maternity services, and received confirmation there are

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received confirmation there are received confirmation there are

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maternity wards in Wales where maternity wards in Wales where

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maternity wards in Wales where maternity wards in Wales where

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staff who are suspended or on long staff who are suspended or on long

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staff who are suspended or on long service -- long-term sick leave are

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service -- long-term sick leave are service -- long-term sick leave are

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included in rotas for the staffing included in rotas for the staffing

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included in rotas for the staffing arrangements in the wards. Does

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arrangements in the wards. Does arrangements in the wards. Does

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that concern you? And what action that concern you? And what action

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that concern you? And what action will you take? There is a

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will you take? There is a will you take? There is a

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responsibility on the part of the responsibility on the part of the

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responsibility on the part of the local health boards to ensure that

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local health boards to ensure that local health boards to ensure that

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any unit is properly staffed. any unit is properly staffed.

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TRANSLATION: One of the TRANSLATION: One of the

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recommendations in the France's recommendations in the France's

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recommendations in the France's report was to introduce legislation

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report was to introduce legislation report was to introduce legislation

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to place enforcement on medical to place enforcement on medical

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to place enforcement on medical to place enforcement on medical

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staff to tell the truth about the staff to tell the truth about the

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staff to tell the truth about the cause of death. Plaid Cymru also

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cause of death. Plaid Cymru also cause of death. Plaid Cymru also

:24:49.:24:50.

believe that legislation should be believe that legislation should be

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believe that legislation should be considered to make it illegal to

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considered to make it illegal to change medical records following

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change medical records following change medical records following

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certain cases. Do you give certain cases. Do you give

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certain cases. Do you give consideration to new legislation in

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consideration to new legislation in consideration to new legislation in

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order to protect patients? Yes, but order to protect patients? Yes, but

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order to protect patients? Yes, but it is not clear where the

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it is not clear where the it is not clear where the

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responsibility lies. In saying that, responsibility lies. In saying that,

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responsibility lies. In saying that, responsibility lies. In saying that,

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we are considering in what way we we are considering in what way we

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we are considering in what way we can ensure medical records are not

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can ensure medical records are not can ensure medical records are not

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changed in order to ensure that changed in order to ensure that

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changed in order to ensure that everyone knows what has happened if

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everyone knows what has happened if everyone knows what has happened if

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someone unfortunately dies. We are someone unfortunately dies. We are

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someone unfortunately dies. We are looking at whether we have the

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looking at whether we have the looking at whether we have the

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power were to ensure that that power were to ensure that that

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power were to ensure that that power were to ensure that that

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happen us. -- whether we have the happen us. -- whether we have the

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happen us. -- whether we have the power. A report showed the

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power. A report showed the disregard of mortality statistics.

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disregard of mortality statistics. disregard of mortality statistics.

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disregard of mortality statistics. In answer to my question last week,

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In answer to my question last week, In answer to my question last week,

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he said mortality statistics were he said mortality statistics were

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he said mortality statistics were not a good guide for hospital

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not a good guide for hospital performance. Yet local health

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performance. Yet local health performance. Yet local health

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boards are required by the boards are required by the

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boards are required by the government as an indicator for the

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government as an indicator for the government as an indicator for the

:25:55.:25:55.

annual Quality Framework to report annual Quality Framework to report

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annual Quality Framework to report on mortality statistics. Could you

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on mortality statistics. Could you on mortality statistics. Could you

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clarify the dew on statistics? -- clarify the dew on statistics? --

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clarify the dew on statistics? -- you're view. They are important but

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you're view. They are important but complications are equally as

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complications are equally as complications are equally as

:26:14.:26:14.

important. In order to assess the important. In order to assess the

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important. In order to assess the importance of any hospital or a

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importance of any hospital or a importance of any hospital or a

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unit, the complication rates are unit, the complication rates are

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unit, the complication rates are important because of the need to

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important because of the need to understand her treatment is

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understand her treatment is progressing when someone has

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progressing when someone has progressing when someone has

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received the treatment, whether it received the treatment, whether it

:26:27.:26:28.

received the treatment, whether it received the treatment, whether it

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is an operation or not. They are is an operation or not. They are

:26:29.:26:35.

is an operation or not. They are not contradictory things. Can he

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not contradictory things. Can he not contradictory things. Can he

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make a statement outlining the make a statement outlining the

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benefits of minerals, technical benefits of minerals, technical

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benefits of minerals, technical advice on Calle. It enables an

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advice on Calle. It enables an advice on Calle. It enables an

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advice on Calle. It enables an informed view to be taken on what

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informed view to be taken on what informed view to be taken on what

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impact it will be, including on impact it will be, including on

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impact it will be, including on local people and how their

:26:55.:26:57.

local people and how their local people and how their

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lifestyle will be affected or not. lifestyle will be affected or not.

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lifestyle will be affected or not. The Environment... A report has

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The Environment... A report has The Environment... A report has

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left people worried about open left people worried about open

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left people worried about open casting. There are local houses and

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casting. There are local houses and casting. There are local houses and

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casting. There are local houses and a school just 100 metres away. The

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a school just 100 metres away. The a school just 100 metres away. The

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inspectors' report is not being inspectors' report is not being

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inspectors' report is not being released. Would you agree that it

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released. Would you agree that it released. Would you agree that it

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is vital that the report be is vital that the report be

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is vital that the report be released? In view of your previous

:27:26.:27:27.

released? In view of your previous released? In view of your previous

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statement that the guidance on statement that the guidance on

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statement that the guidance on buffer zones is there to be

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buffer zones is there to be buffer zones is there to be

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followed, what steps will you take followed, what steps will you take

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followed, what steps will you take to ensure that it protects our

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to ensure that it protects our to ensure that it protects our

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communities from this type of communities from this type of

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communities from this type of development? It is there to protect

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development? It is there to protect development? It is there to protect

:27:43.:27:44.

communities, and it has done in communities, and it has done in

:27:44.:27:46.

communities, and it has done in communities, and it has done in

:27:46.:27:52.

years gone by. I cannot comment on years gone by. I cannot comment on

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years gone by. I cannot comment on specific details with that side. --

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specific details with that side. -- specific details with that side. --

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specific details with that side. -- site. When I asked about a similar

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site. When I asked about a similar site. When I asked about a similar

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site. When I asked about a similar event in 2010, he replied, it must

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event in 2010, he replied, it must event in 2010, he replied, it must

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event in 2010, he replied, it must be taken into account by a planning

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be taken into account by a planning be taken into account by a planning

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authority, and went on to state authority, and went on to state

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authority, and went on to state authority, and went on to state

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that the guidance was there to be that the guidance was there to be

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that the guidance was there to be observed. Will you re- iterate the

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observed. Will you re- iterate the observed. Will you re- iterate the

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commitment to a 500 metres Buffer commitment to a 500 metres Buffer

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commitment to a 500 metres Buffer commitment to a 500 metres Buffer

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Zone? That is in there.We have a Zone? That is in there.We have a

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complicated situation where complicated situation where

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planning officers are recommending planning officers are recommending

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planning officers are recommending the Celtic Energy's unlawful coal-

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the Celtic Energy's unlawful coal- the Celtic Energy's unlawful coal-

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the Celtic Energy's unlawful coal- mining a taste it is brought under

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mining a taste it is brought under mining a taste it is brought under

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control. This comes inside the 500 control. This comes inside the 500

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control. This comes inside the 500 metre buffer zone, stipulated in

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metre buffer zone, stipulated in metre buffer zone, stipulated in

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the report, and adopted by the the report, and adopted by the

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the report, and adopted by the the report, and adopted by the

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council as part of the LDP. Would council as part of the LDP. Would

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council as part of the LDP. Would you agree with me that this

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you agree with me that this you agree with me that this

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undermines the whole reason behind undermines the whole reason behind

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undermines the whole reason behind the Government's guidance, and can

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the Government's guidance, and can the Government's guidance, and can

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the Government's guidance, and can you make this law, so we do not

:28:53.:28:54.

you make this law, so we do not you make this law, so we do not

:28:54.:28:56.

make a laughing stock of the make a laughing stock of the

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make a laughing stock of the make a laughing stock of the

:28:57.:28:58.

guidance? It is a matter for local guidance? It is a matter for local

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planning authorities to determine planning authorities to determine

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planning authorities to determine planning authorities to determine

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what they do, but I know of no what they do, but I know of no

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what they do, but I know of no planning guidance that becomes law.

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planning guidance that becomes law. planning guidance that becomes law.

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planning guidance that becomes law. It is always guidance. It is up to

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It is always guidance. It is up to It is always guidance. It is up to

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:29:22.:29:38.

the British geological Society's the British geological Society's

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the British geological Society's definition of a settlement? It would

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definition of a settlement? It would definition of a settlement? It would

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definition of a settlement? It would definition of a settlement? It would

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be right to say there is a 500 metre be right to say there is a 500 metre

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be right to say there is a 500 metre buffer zone without exception.

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buffer zone without exception. buffer zone without exception.

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buffer zone without exception. terms of the definition you ask for,

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terms of the definition you ask for, terms of the definition you ask for,

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terms of the definition you ask for, I will ensure you are written to

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I will ensure you are written to The time taken to get the scheme

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The time taken to get the scheme The time taken to get the scheme

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off the ground is unfortunate, and off the ground is unfortunate, and

:30:36.:30:37.

off the ground is unfortunate, and off the ground is unfortunate, and

:30:37.:30:39.

would it be impossible to put it in would it be impossible to put it in

:30:39.:30:40.

would it be impossible to put it in place earlier? Know, because the

:30:40.:30:42.

place earlier? Know, because the place earlier? Know, because the

:30:42.:30:45.

launch of the scheme is dependent launch of the scheme is dependent

:30:45.:30:47.

launch of the scheme is dependent on sufficient numbers off lenders

:30:47.:30:48.

on sufficient numbers off lenders on sufficient numbers off lenders

:30:48.:30:49.

on sufficient numbers off lenders and builders. We are now in a

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and builders. We are now in a and builders. We are now in a

:30:50.:30:51.

position where bad is the case. position where bad is the case.

:30:51.:30:53.

position where bad is the case. There are potential pitfalls with

:30:53.:30:54.

There are potential pitfalls with There are potential pitfalls with

:30:54.:30:56.

the scheme. What safeguards does the scheme. What safeguards does

:30:56.:30:57.

the scheme. What safeguards does the government have in place to

:30:57.:30:59.

the government have in place to the government have in place to

:30:59.:31:03.

ensure borrowers take -- who take ensure borrowers take -- who take

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ensure borrowers take -- who take advantage of the scheme do not

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advantage of the scheme do not advantage of the scheme do not

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advantage of the scheme do not suffer if house prices fall? We put

:31:09.:31:10.

suffer if house prices fall? We put suffer if house prices fall? We put

:31:10.:31:12.

in place a guarantee that reduces in place a guarantee that reduces

:31:12.:31:15.

the substantial deposit required the substantial deposit required

:31:15.:31:19.

the substantial deposit required for potential homebuyers. In terms

:31:19.:31:20.

for potential homebuyers. In terms for potential homebuyers. In terms

:31:20.:31:21.

for potential homebuyers. In terms of how house prices develop in the

:31:21.:31:22.

of how house prices develop in the of how house prices develop in the

:31:22.:31:22.

future, that is difficult to future, that is difficult to

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future, that is difficult to predict. We know that. A study

:31:24.:31:30.

predict. We know that. A study predict. We know that. A study

:31:30.:31:32.

suggests that house prices fell by suggests that house prices fell by

:31:32.:31:33.

suggests that house prices fell by 20%, but people would have been

:31:33.:31:34.

20%, but people would have been 20%, but people would have been

:31:34.:31:36.

20%, but people would have been amazed that I had said that. The

:31:36.:31:37.

amazed that I had said that. The amazed that I had said that. The

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scheme is so important because it scheme is so important because it

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TRANSLATION: In a recent letter, TRANSLATION: In a recent letter,

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the Minister for Housing the Minister for Housing

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the Minister for Housing regeneration and Heritage said that

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regeneration and Heritage said that regeneration and Heritage said that

:31:54.:31:57.

companies such as Barratt Homes and companies such as Barratt Homes and

:31:57.:31:57.

companies such as Barratt Homes and Wimpey Homes were contributing to

:31:57.:31:59.

Wimpey Homes were contributing to Wimpey Homes were contributing to

:31:59.:32:00.

schemes by Welsh government. But as schemes by Welsh government. But as

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schemes by Welsh government. But as these builders and companies do not

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these builders and companies do not these builders and companies do not

:32:05.:32:07.

have sites and place, can the have sites and place, can the

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have sites and place, can the Minister confirm that local and

:32:07.:32:09.

Minister confirm that local and Minister confirm that local and

:32:09.:32:10.

regional companies will be part of regional companies will be part of

:32:10.:32:14.

regional companies will be part of regional companies will be part of

:32:14.:32:17.

the new scheme? At present we are the new scheme? At present we are

:32:17.:32:18.

the new scheme? At present we are ensuring there are an adequate

:32:18.:32:19.

ensuring there are an adequate ensuring there are an adequate

:32:19.:32:22.

number of companies in the scheme, number of companies in the scheme,

:32:22.:32:23.

number of companies in the scheme, and then we can see who's

:32:23.:32:28.

participating. participating.

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participating. What are the Welsh Government's

:32:30.:32:31.

What are the Welsh Government's plans for safeguarded by

:32:31.:32:32.

plans for safeguarded by plans for safeguarded by

:32:32.:32:36.

safeguarding key it in North Wales? safeguarding key it in North Wales?

:32:36.:32:37.

safeguarding key it in North Wales? safeguarding key it in North Wales?

:32:37.:32:38.

We ensure that the people in North We ensure that the people in North

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We ensure that the people in North Wales will have access to stable

:32:40.:32:42.

Wales will have access to stable Wales will have access to stable

:32:42.:32:43.

neonatal services. Is it acceptable neonatal services. Is it acceptable

:32:43.:32:45.

neonatal services. Is it acceptable for South Wales took maintains

:32:45.:32:47.

for South Wales took maintains for South Wales took maintains

:32:47.:32:47.

three neonatal centres, while North three neonatal centres, while North

:32:47.:32:50.

three neonatal centres, while North three neonatal centres, while North

:32:50.:32:51.

Wales have none? One of them does Wales have none? One of them does

:32:51.:32:53.

Wales have none? One of them does not even meet the standards. What

:32:53.:32:54.

not even meet the standards. What not even meet the standards. What

:32:54.:32:55.

assurances will you give to women assurances will you give to women

:32:55.:32:56.

assurances will you give to women assurances will you give to women

:32:56.:32:56.

in North Wales who will soon be in North Wales who will soon be

:32:56.:32:57.

in North Wales who will soon be forced to travel across the border

:32:57.:32:59.

forced to travel across the border forced to travel across the border

:32:59.:33:00.

forced to travel across the border to be treated under a health system

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to be treated under a health system to be treated under a health system

:33:01.:33:02.

that your own government has that your own government has

:33:02.:33:06.

that your own government has criticised so heavily. No decisions

:33:06.:33:10.

criticised so heavily. No decisions criticised so heavily. No decisions

:33:10.:33:12.

criticised so heavily. No decisions have been to taken -- have been

:33:12.:33:13.

have been to taken -- have been have been to taken -- have been

:33:13.:33:23.
:33:23.:33:37.

taken regards to Betsy card while Certain issues have been referred

:33:37.:33:38.

Certain issues have been referred Certain issues have been referred

:33:38.:33:39.

Certain issues have been referred to the Minister for Health, and the

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to the Minister for Health, and the to the Minister for Health, and the

:33:41.:33:42.

reason for that is the distance reason for that is the distance

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reason for that is the distance people have to travel to axis

:33:44.:33:51.

people have to travel to axis people have to travel to axis

:33:51.:34:01.
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The Minister himself has The Minister himself has

:34:11.:34:15.

constituency within the area. He constituency within the area. He

:34:15.:34:16.

constituency within the area. He will consider this in the coming

:34:16.:34:19.

will consider this in the coming will consider this in the coming

:34:19.:34:22.

days. The children's committee will days. The children's committee will

:34:22.:34:22.

days. The children's committee will take evidence from the neonatal

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take evidence from the neonatal take evidence from the neonatal

:34:25.:34:27.

network on Thursday and that network on Thursday and that

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network on Thursday and that demonstrates that there is an

:34:28.:34:30.

demonstrates that there is an demonstrates that there is an

:34:30.:34:32.

absence of evidence in terms of absence of evidence in terms of

:34:32.:34:33.

absence of evidence in terms of intensive neonatal care in North

:34:33.:34:34.

intensive neonatal care in North intensive neonatal care in North

:34:34.:34:35.

intensive neonatal care in North Wales as compared to south Wales and

:34:35.:34:35.

Wales as compared to south Wales and Wales as compared to south Wales and

:34:35.:34:38.

they also say that they are they also say that they are

:34:38.:34:39.

they also say that they are uncertain as to whether the

:34:39.:34:42.

uncertain as to whether the uncertain as to whether the

:34:42.:34:43.

arrangements suggested in terms of arrangements suggested in terms of

:34:43.:34:46.

arrangements suggested in terms of care, once the service has

:34:46.:34:49.

care, once the service has care, once the service has

:34:49.:34:50.

transferred will be robust enough. transferred will be robust enough.

:34:50.:34:51.

transferred will be robust enough. transferred will be robust enough.

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In light of that, and also the In light of that, and also the

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In light of that, and also the comments made, will you ask whether

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comments made, will you ask whether comments made, will you ask whether

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comments made, will you ask whether you will consider, in terms of your

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you will consider, in terms of your you will consider, in terms of your

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powers as ministers, this bid to powers as ministers, this bid to

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powers as ministers, this bid to transfer that service to Arrow

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transfer that service to Arrow Park? TRANSLATION: Consideration

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Park? TRANSLATION: Consideration Park? TRANSLATION: Consideration

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Park? TRANSLATION: Consideration will be given to the request but the

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will be given to the request but the will be given to the request but the

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decision will be taken ultimately decision will be taken ultimately

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decision will be taken ultimately decision will be taken ultimately

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and it will be pertaining to whether and it will be pertaining to whether

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and it will be pertaining to whether and it will be pertaining to whether

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all the plans will be referred to all the plans will be referred to

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all the plans will be referred to ministers in the next few weeks.

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ministers in the next few weeks. Question nine. Will the

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Question nine. Will the Question nine. Will the

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first-minister make a statement on first-minister make a statement on

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first-minister make a statement on the proposed Welsh honours system?

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the proposed Welsh honours system? the proposed Welsh honours system?

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the proposed Welsh honours system? Yes, I welcome the debate we had on

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Yes, I welcome the debate we had on Yes, I welcome the debate we had on

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Yes, I welcome the debate we had on this issue last week and I have

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this issue last week and I have this issue last week and I have

:35:35.:35:36.

asked officials to work on the asked officials to work on the

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asked officials to work on the detail and I will keep members

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detail and I will keep members detail and I will keep members

:35:42.:35:42.

informed. Thank you. You have informed. Thank you. You have

:35:42.:35:44.

informed. Thank you. You have informed. Thank you. You have

:35:44.:35:45.

answered the question I was going to answered the question I was going to

:35:45.:35:46.

answered the question I was going to put, which is how detailed the

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put, which is how detailed the put, which is how detailed the

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proposals that you announced last proposals that you announced last

:35:50.:35:51.

proposals that you announced last proposals that you announced last

:35:51.:35:51.

week? You have indicated that a lot week? You have indicated that a lot

:35:51.:35:53.

week? You have indicated that a lot of the proposals are still being

:35:53.:35:54.

of the proposals are still being of the proposals are still being

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of the proposals are still being worked out. Will it be the case,

:35:55.:35:57.

worked out. Will it be the case, worked out. Will it be the case,

:35:57.:35:58.

though, that the awards will be though, that the awards will be

:35:58.:35:59.

though, that the awards will be presented by a third-party separate

:35:59.:36:01.

presented by a third-party separate presented by a third-party separate

:36:01.:36:02.

to yourself as First Minister or to yourself as First Minister or

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to yourself as First Minister or will it be very much Government

:36:04.:36:04.

will it be very much Government will it be very much Government

:36:04.:36:05.

awards awarded to people across the awards awarded to people across the

:36:05.:36:07.

awards awarded to people across the awards awarded to people across the

:36:07.:36:09.

whole of Wales? No, what I want to whole of Wales? No, what I want to

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whole of Wales? No, what I want to whole of Wales? No, what I want to

:36:11.:36:14.

do is ensure that the process of do is ensure that the process of

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do is ensure that the process of identifying who should be eligible

:36:15.:36:17.

identifying who should be eligible identifying who should be eligible

:36:17.:36:17.

identifying who should be eligible for the awards is as wide as

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for the awards is as wide as for the awards is as wide as

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possible and that does take is possible and that does take is

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possible and that does take is beyond Government. One option might

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beyond Government. One option might beyond Government. One option might

:36:23.:36:25.

beyond Government. One option might be, for example, the use of an

:36:25.:36:27.

be, for example, the use of an be, for example, the use of an

:36:27.:36:28.

independent board to assess the independent board to assess the

:36:28.:36:28.

independent board to assess the independent board to assess the

:36:28.:36:29.

awards, in the same way that is done awards, in the same way that is done

:36:29.:36:30.

awards, in the same way that is done with the honours system in

:36:30.:36:34.

with the honours system in with the honours system in

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with the honours system in Whitehall. I, too, was going to ask

:36:35.:36:38.

Whitehall. I, too, was going to ask Whitehall. I, too, was going to ask

:36:38.:36:38.

how the details are progressing but how the details are progressing but

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how the details are progressing but how the details are progressing but

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you have answered that. Do you agree you have answered that. Do you agree

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you have answered that. Do you agree you have answered that. Do you agree

:36:43.:36:44.

there is no need to mixed churches there is no need to mixed churches

:36:44.:36:45.

there is no need to mixed churches or monarchies with any Welsh honours

:36:45.:36:46.

or monarchies with any Welsh honours or monarchies with any Welsh honours

:36:46.:36:46.

or monarchies with any Welsh honours system and instead it should be a

:36:46.:36:47.

system and instead it should be a system and instead it should be a

:36:47.:36:50.

proud symbol of citizenship of proud symbol of citizenship of

:36:50.:36:51.

proud symbol of citizenship of Wales, rewarding members of our

:36:51.:36:52.

Wales, rewarding members of our Wales, rewarding members of our

:36:52.:36:52.

national community for their work national community for their work

:36:52.:36:55.

national community for their work and contribution to our society and

:36:55.:36:58.

and contribution to our society and and contribution to our society and

:36:58.:36:59.

not involving political patronage? I not involving political patronage? I

:36:59.:37:00.

not involving political patronage? I not involving political patronage? I

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seem to have the powers of telepathy seem to have the powers of telepathy

:37:01.:37:03.

seem to have the powers of telepathy this afternoon, which I hope I

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this afternoon, which I hope I this afternoon, which I hope I

:37:05.:37:07.

retain, of course. The point made retain, of course. The point made

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retain, of course. The point made is... There was some members who

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is... There was some members who is... There was some members who

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is... There was some members who took the view last week in the

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took the view last week in the took the view last week in the

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debate that there should be judging debate that there should be judging

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involvement, Chechen Wales involvement, Chechen Wales

:37:15.:37:20.

involvement, Chechen Wales involvement, to be precise. --

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involvement, to be precise. -- involvement, to be precise. --

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involvement, to be precise. -- Church in Wales. It will exist in a

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Church in Wales. It will exist in a Church in Wales. It will exist in a

:37:29.:37:30.

complimentary way to the existing complimentary way to the existing

:37:30.:37:31.

complimentary way to the existing complimentary way to the existing

:37:31.:37:32.

honours system and I see no role for honours system and I see no role for

:37:32.:37:33.

honours system and I see no role for any particular churches in the

:37:33.:37:37.

any particular churches in the awards themselves. Doubtless there

:37:37.:37:38.

awards themselves. Doubtless there awards themselves. Doubtless there

:37:38.:37:39.

will be organisations who will want will be organisations who will want

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will be organisations who will want to nominate people. First Minister,

:37:44.:37:45.

to nominate people. First Minister, to nominate people. First Minister,

:37:45.:37:46.

to nominate people. First Minister, will you make a statement on the

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will you make a statement on the will you make a statement on the

:37:50.:37:51.

Welsh Guzman provisions for tackling Welsh Guzman provisions for tackling

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Welsh Guzman provisions for tackling gambling addiction? There is no

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gambling addiction? There is no medical intervention, in general.

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medical intervention, in general. medical intervention, in general.

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Advice and support can be accessed Advice and support can be accessed

:38:02.:38:03.

Advice and support can be accessed Advice and support can be accessed

:38:03.:38:05.

by a GP or organisations such as by a GP or organisations such as

:38:05.:38:07.

gamblers anonymous. The UK gamblers anonymous. The UK

:38:07.:38:11.

Government scrapped the gambling Government scrapped the gambling

:38:11.:38:12.

Government scrapped the gambling addiction survey that was carried

:38:12.:38:13.

addiction survey that was carried addiction survey that was carried

:38:13.:38:15.

out annually. Scotland and England out annually. Scotland and England

:38:15.:38:16.

out annually. Scotland and England out annually. Scotland and England

:38:16.:38:17.

are using the Welsh health survey in are using the Welsh health survey in

:38:17.:38:18.

are using the Welsh health survey in order to try to seek this

:38:18.:38:19.

order to try to seek this order to try to seek this

:38:19.:38:22.

information. Wales has chosen not information. Wales has chosen not

:38:22.:38:23.

information. Wales has chosen not to. I was wondering happy Welsh

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to. I was wondering happy Welsh to. I was wondering happy Welsh

:38:24.:38:25.

Government will actually be looking Government will actually be looking

:38:25.:38:26.

Government will actually be looking at assessing the implications of

:38:26.:38:28.

at assessing the implications of gambling addiction particularly in

:38:28.:38:31.

gambling addiction particularly in gambling addiction particularly in

:38:31.:38:31.

gambling addiction particularly in the light of the growth of online

:38:31.:38:35.

the light of the growth of online the light of the growth of online

:38:35.:38:38.

gambling. Policy on gambling is not gambling. Policy on gambling is not

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gambling. Policy on gambling is not evolved, -- devolved. The gambling

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evolved, -- devolved. The gambling evolved, -- devolved. The gambling

:38:42.:38:44.

commission works closely with the UK commission works closely with the UK

:38:44.:38:47.

Government to ensure problem Government to ensure problem

:38:47.:38:48.

gambling is adequately understood gambling is adequately understood

:38:48.:38:49.

gambling is adequately understood and researched. And, of course, we

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and researched. And, of course, we and researched. And, of course, we

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and researched. And, of course, we are all aware of the impact gambling

:38:53.:38:54.

are all aware of the impact gambling are all aware of the impact gambling

:38:54.:38:55.

are all aware of the impact gambling will have on the individual or their

:38:55.:38:57.

will have on the individual or their will have on the individual or their

:38:57.:38:58.

families. The support is available families. The support is available

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families. The support is available through certain websites. And the

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through certain websites. And the citizens advice bureau. First

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citizens advice bureau. First citizens advice bureau. First

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Minister, a recent report by the Minister, a recent report by the

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Royal College of psychiatrists Royal College of psychiatrists

:39:11.:39:13.

Royal College of psychiatrists called for more awareness raising

:39:13.:39:19.

called for more awareness raising called for more awareness raising

:39:19.:39:21.

about problematic gambling of months about problematic gambling of months

:39:21.:39:25.

about problematic gambling of months -- amongst serious addicts. Given

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-- amongst serious addicts. Given -- amongst serious addicts. Given

:39:27.:39:27.

the problem of gambling in Public the problem of gambling in Public

:39:27.:39:29.

the problem of gambling in Public health, will be First Minister

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health, will be First Minister consider giving the health

:39:32.:39:32.

consider giving the health consider giving the health

:39:33.:39:33.

Department a greater role in Department a greater role in

:39:33.:39:35.

Department a greater role in tackling the danger of gambling?

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tackling the danger of gambling? tackling the danger of gambling?

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Gambling does not sit entirely in Gambling does not sit entirely in

:39:40.:39:42.

Gambling does not sit entirely in the field of health. There are

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the field of health. There are medical interventions that can

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medical interventions that can medical interventions that can

:39:48.:39:49.

help. Whether NHS treatment is help. Whether NHS treatment is

:39:49.:39:51.

help. Whether NHS treatment is available will depend on the

:39:51.:39:52.

available will depend on the available will depend on the

:39:52.:39:54.

severity of clinical need, that severity of clinical need, that

:39:54.:39:55.

person. Those with gambling person. Those with gambling

:39:55.:39:56.

person. Those with gambling addictions can seek the support and

:39:56.:39:56.

addictions can seek the support and addictions can seek the support and

:39:56.:40:02.

addictions can seek the support and advice of their GP and not all -

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advice of their GP and not all - advice of their GP and not all -

:40:02.:40:04.

mental health services may have a mental health services may have a

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mental health services may have a mental health services may have a

:40:06.:40:07.

bearing on this. In terms of dealing bearing on this. In terms of dealing

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bearing on this. In terms of dealing bearing on this. In terms of dealing

:40:09.:40:12.

with gambling, it is a health issue with gambling, it is a health issue

:40:12.:40:13.

with gambling, it is a health issue but there are organisations who can

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but there are organisations who can but there are organisations who can

:40:17.:40:17.

but there are organisations who can help out there. -- it is not a

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help out there. -- it is not a discreet health issue. Alcohol

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discreet health issue. Alcohol discreet health issue. Alcohol

:40:24.:40:24.

concern country and the Royal concern country and the Royal

:40:24.:40:26.

College of psychologists have College of psychologists have

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College of psychologists have launched a report which highlights

:40:31.:40:34.

launched a report which highlights launched a report which highlights

:40:34.:40:44.
:40:44.:40:46.

issues. The worst Government look at issues. The worst Government look at

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issues. The worst Government look at that report? As I mentioned, policy

:40:49.:40:50.

that report? As I mentioned, policy that report? As I mentioned, policy

:40:50.:40:51.

that report? As I mentioned, policy on gambling is not devolved but I

:40:51.:40:52.

on gambling is not devolved but I on gambling is not devolved but I

:40:52.:40:53.

on gambling is not devolved but I can say that the Minister for health

:40:53.:40:53.

can say that the Minister for health can say that the Minister for health

:40:53.:40:56.

and social services has asked and social services has asked

:40:56.:40:57.

and social services has asked and social services has asked

:40:57.:40:58.

officials to contact DC MS to seek officials to contact DC MS to seek

:40:58.:40:59.

officials to contact DC MS to seek officials to contact DC MS to seek

:40:59.:41:00.

their views on the document and the their views on the document and the

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their views on the document and the need for further research on the

:41:02.:41:02.

need for further research on the need for further research on the

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health advice of gambling addiction. health advice of gambling addiction.

:41:08.:41:09.

health advice of gambling addiction. We will leave first Minister's

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We will leave first Minister's We will leave first Minister's

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We will leave first Minister's Questions and is there. You can see

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Questions and is there. You can see Questions and is there. You can see

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more coverage on the assembly more coverage on the assembly

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more coverage on the assembly more coverage on the assembly

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online. Let's pick up on some of online. Let's pick up on some of

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online. Let's pick up on some of that with our Welsh affairs editor,

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that with our Welsh affairs editor, that with our Welsh affairs editor,

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who has been watching. A fairly who has been watching. A fairly

:41:26.:41:28.

who has been watching. A fairly thoughtful debate there. What did

:41:28.:41:29.

thoughtful debate there. What did thoughtful debate there. What did

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thoughtful debate there. What did you pick up on? I thought, in terms

:41:30.:41:31.

you pick up on? I thought, in terms you pick up on? I thought, in terms

:41:32.:41:35.

of leaders questions, the one who of leaders questions, the one who

:41:35.:41:36.

of leaders questions, the one who of leaders questions, the one who

:41:36.:41:37.

came over best in question Time was came over best in question Time was

:41:37.:41:40.

came over best in question Time was came over best in question Time was

:41:40.:41:40.

Leanne Wood today. I do not think Leanne Wood today. I do not think

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Leanne Wood today. I do not think Andrew Davies or Kirsty Williams hit

:41:41.:41:42.

Andrew Davies or Kirsty Williams hit Andrew Davies or Kirsty Williams hit

:41:42.:41:43.

Andrew Davies or Kirsty Williams hit the back of the all with questions

:41:43.:41:46.

the back of the all with questions the back of the all with questions

:41:46.:41:46.

about community health councils on about community health councils on

:41:46.:41:47.

about community health councils on about community health councils on

:41:47.:41:52.

one hand, and truancy on the other. one hand, and truancy on the other.

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one hand, and truancy on the other. one hand, and truancy on the other.

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Leanne Wood did seem to throw Carwyn Leanne Wood did seem to throw Carwyn

:41:53.:41:57.

Leanne Wood did seem to throw Carwyn Leanne Wood did seem to throw Carwyn

:41:57.:41:58.

Jones off his script by quoting from Jones off his script by quoting from

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Jones off his script by quoting from Owen Smith, the shadow secretary of

:41:59.:42:00.

Owen Smith, the shadow secretary of Owen Smith, the shadow secretary of

:42:00.:42:01.

Owen Smith, the shadow secretary of state for Wales. I have to say that

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state for Wales. I have to say that state for Wales. I have to say that

:42:03.:42:03.

Labour are querying whether that Labour are querying whether that

:42:03.:42:06.

Labour are querying whether that quote is correct, although I checked

:42:06.:42:07.

quote is correct, although I checked quote is correct, although I checked

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quote is correct, although I checked it is as it appeared in the Western

:42:08.:42:09.

it is as it appeared in the Western it is as it appeared in the Western

:42:09.:42:10.

mail this morning. Whether there was mail this morning. Whether there was

:42:10.:42:12.

mail this morning. Whether there was mail this morning. Whether there was

:42:12.:42:13.

some error in the Western mail iss some error in the Western mail iss

:42:13.:42:14.

some error in the Western mail iss transcription this morning, I do not

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transcription this morning, I do not transcription this morning, I do not

:42:15.:42:19.

know. At that group Carwyn Jones. know. At that group Carwyn Jones.

:42:19.:42:23.

know. At that group Carwyn Jones. Also the debate is continuing about

:42:23.:42:25.

Also the debate is continuing about Also the debate is continuing about

:42:25.:42:27.

the changes to health in North the changes to health in North

:42:27.:42:29.

the changes to health in North Wales. The first-minister says he is

:42:29.:42:30.

Wales. The first-minister says he is Wales. The first-minister says he is

:42:30.:42:38.

taking any changes at ministerial taking any changes at ministerial

:42:38.:42:38.

taking any changes at ministerial level. Because the constituency of

:42:38.:42:39.

level. Because the constituency of level. Because the constituency of

:42:39.:42:42.

Lesley Griffiths is in that area. Lesley Griffiths is in that area.

:42:42.:42:43.

Lesley Griffiths is in that area. Yes, because she represents Wrexham,

:42:43.:42:45.

Yes, because she represents Wrexham, Yes, because she represents Wrexham,

:42:45.:42:46.

Yes, because she represents Wrexham, some of the funds will be undertaken

:42:46.:42:50.

some of the funds will be undertaken some of the funds will be undertaken

:42:50.:42:54.

by him. The Government is under by him. The Government is under

:42:54.:42:56.

by him. The Government is under pressure to put the plans into

:42:56.:42:57.

pressure to put the plans into pressure to put the plans into

:42:57.:42:58.

place. Last week in first Minister's place. Last week in first Minister's

:42:58.:42:59.

questions, Carwyn Jones almost questions, Carwyn Jones almost

:42:59.:43:02.

questions, Carwyn Jones almost questions, Carwyn Jones almost

:43:02.:43:03.

seemed to hint that he would be seemed to hint that he would be

:43:03.:43:04.

seemed to hint that he would be seemed to hint that he would be

:43:04.:43:05.

called in. This week we hear the called in. This week we hear the

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called in. This week we hear the called in. This week we hear the

:43:09.:43:10.

decision is his so it will seem more decision is his so it will seem more

:43:10.:43:12.

decision is his so it will seem more decision is his so it will seem more

:43:12.:43:13.

more likely that he will say these more likely that he will say these

:43:13.:43:18.

decisions should reach covenant. decisions should reach covenant.

:43:18.:43:19.

decisions should reach covenant. There were the problems in mid

:43:19.:43:20.

There were the problems in mid There were the problems in mid

:43:20.:43:22.

Staffordshire with the NHS that. Staffordshire with the NHS that.

:43:22.:43:23.

Staffordshire with the NHS that. Lessons to be learned across the

:43:23.:43:26.

Lessons to be learned across the Lessons to be learned across the

:43:27.:43:28.

Lessons to be learned across the whole of the UK? And what was

:43:28.:43:28.

whole of the UK? And what was whole of the UK? And what was

:43:28.:43:31.

interesting there was we saw once interesting there was we saw once

:43:31.:43:32.

interesting there was we saw once again some of the uncertainty

:43:32.:43:33.

again some of the uncertainty surrounding devolution and Carwyn

:43:33.:43:35.

surrounding devolution and Carwyn surrounding devolution and Carwyn

:43:35.:43:36.

Jones saying, we are thinking of Jones saying, we are thinking of

:43:36.:43:37.

Jones saying, we are thinking of Jones saying, we are thinking of

:43:37.:43:38.

introducing a law that we are not introducing a law that we are not

:43:38.:43:38.

introducing a law that we are not introducing a law that we are not

:43:38.:43:40.

sure whether we have the power, and sure whether we have the power, and

:43:40.:43:41.

sure whether we have the power, and sure whether we have the power, and

:43:41.:43:42.

that is why we have the ongoing that is why we have the ongoing

:43:43.:43:43.

that is why we have the ongoing enquiry looking at the way the

:43:43.:43:44.

enquiry looking at the way the enquiry looking at the way the

:43:44.:43:48.

powers of this place are defined. powers of this place are defined.

:43:48.:43:49.

powers of this place are defined. powers of this place are defined.

:43:49.:43:50.

Thank you. There will no doubt be Thank you. There will no doubt be

:43:50.:43:51.

Thank you. There will no doubt be Thank you. There will no doubt be

:43:51.:43:51.

plenty more to talk about on the plenty more to talk about on the

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plenty more to talk about on the next few weeks on those health

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next few weeks on those health service reform. I will be back at

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service reform. I will be back at service reform. I will be back at

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