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Good afternoon. Welcome to the programme. We are expecting the

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First Minister to be answering questions later into allegations of

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abuse in the North Wales care homes dating back to the 1970s and 1980s.

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We know the Prime Minister yesterday announced the inquiry

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into historic allegations of child abuse in North Wales were hampered

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by the police. The Home Secretary has spoken in the Commons on the

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matter. There was Government inquiry has yet to be announced.

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The First Minister will be a children's commissioner and later

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this afternoon, who has already called for a new inquiry into

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pieces in North Wales relating to care homes. You can get in touch

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with us if you want to comment on Business in the Chamber is already

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under way. Let's take a look at questions to the First Minister.

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I call the National Assembly to order. Questions to the First

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Minister. TRANSLATION: Will the First

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Minister make a statement on unemployment in young people.

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The dealing with this is one of the main priorities for a Government.

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As a result, up We provided key employability programmes,

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established a programme for young people aged 16 to 24 and introduce

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measures to extend apprenticeships. Many of those schemes that

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endeavour to tackle youth unemployment and the skills gap

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among young people are dependent on funding from the European

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structural funds and your fellow members of Parliament have voted

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for a reduction in the European Union budget, supporting up to 50

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right-wing Conservatives. Do you also believe the European Union

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budget should be reduced? I believe that the Budget should be

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established on A-Level which is of benefit to the people of Wales. We

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as a Government would not be in favour of cutting the budget which

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is available for funds which assist the people of Wales.

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I know you'll agree with me that apprenticeships are an incredibly

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useful way of helping young people into work. Some of these

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apprenticeships that people are offered involved and having to live

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away from home or to undertake extensive travel. It is very costly.

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I have had a number of constituents who have not been able to take up

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their apprenticeships because they cannot afford to be able to pay for

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bed-and-breakfast lodgings or whatever it may be. I have tried

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three very his portfolio holders, through grants, games, lottery, all

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sorts of possible ways to find them funding and I wondered how

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important it was to get our young people to work and could duplicate

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this on a cross-party basis to look at what financial support we could

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offer young people who need to undertake apprenticeships, because

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that apprenticeship they need is not available locally and they have

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to do it far away from home. They simply cannot do it and cannot get

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a job. Some 1800 young people have started

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work through jobs growth Wales and more than 3,500 opportunities have

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been created in total today. There is a specific issue regarding the

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cost of travel and bought for young people. I will write to her with

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more information on the lines that she has requested.

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This situation is very difficult at the moment for our young people and

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there is a lot of low morale. We you join with me in congratulating

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of the council which has recently lost its your apprenticeship scheme

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at which is in rolling 33 young people on full-time paid

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apprenticeship programmes. What more could be done to encourage

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other larger employers locally to do the same?

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Local authorities have a very important role in ensuring that

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opportunities exist for young people and I commend them for the

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initiative they have taken forward. They will be an example to others

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both inside and outside the public sector.

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Long-term youth unemployment is at a 15 year high here. One in four of

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19 to 25 year olds are not in education, employment or in

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training. The youth contract in England seems to be denting the

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situation over their but the picture is still worsening in Wales.

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Are you still satisfied with the performance of jobs growth Wales?

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Bear in mind that the youth contract that you talk of is a copy

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of 0 our contract! We expect to reach the target of 4,000 places

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created by March of next year and in the years beyond. It is through

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schemes such as jobs growth Wales. We know that many young people in

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Wales would be provided with opportunities that they otherwise

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would not have. In my constituency, some 39% of

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young people in the 16 to 24 age group are out of work. I have had

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the pleasure -- pleasure of meeting a number who are now in work

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because of the jobs growth Wales employment. What plans has the

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Welsh Government got to actually build on of the growing success of

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jobs growth Wales? This scheme is scheduled to run

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through to March 2015 and we will be undertaking a robust devaluation

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of the programme which will help us to understand the impact of this

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invention on the employment prospects for this is could?

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What action is the Wells Government seeking to improve economic

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activity within the Swansea Bay region?

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We are strengthening the conditions for job creation and retention and

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investing in infrastructure, skills and innovation.

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I a fortnight ago, due -- attended the launch of a specific pilot

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project which was researching into commercialisation, us getting

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economic out synergies. What is the wealth Government propose to put in

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place to encourage new investments so Swansea Bay businesses could get

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support? The academic expertise for a

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business programme, which fosters collaborative links between

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academic institutions and businesses. These smart Comrie

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programme, so biding support for SME and none has any programmes

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made in the Belmont and research. On the Business Innovation

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programme which provides specialist report by emigration and

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intellectual property, manufacturing and design

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specialists for companies engaged in benefit of new product process

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and service of on and. You will be aware of the growing

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interest in the opportunities provided by tidal Power generated

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in the waters beyond Swansea Bay and the then Swansea Bay, both for

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the economy and the green energy targets. What steps as you

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Government taken to establish the impact on those opportunities by

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crowding those waters with the likes of Atlantic array or gas

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extraction operations and further, the cumulative effect of all those

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operations on local tourism? In terms of the sea come up our

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responsibilities like only up to one megawatt, which is very small

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point The rest of it lies in hands of the UK Government. We believe

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that the new resources in Wales should properly be enhance of the

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people of Wales and therefore, we want to see devolution of the

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powers to approve offshore her wind and tidal and we have to the

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elements and that we believe is the proper way forward for the people

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of Wales in order to maximise the economic benefit.

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In the letter of 15th October to Assembly members, the minister for

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business are, enterprise technology and science refers to the change of

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policy in 2008 to remove capital receipts which have been put aside

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for Swansea and spend those on a Wales wide basis instead. In her

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letter, she says that that decision was taken by senior management

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within their them departments of economy and transport. It appears

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from that letter that no minister was involved in that decision

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whatsoever. Is the normal practice for ministers not to be involved in

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decisions of that magnitude which would have such an impact on

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Swansea and visitor Government's policy not to put resources into

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this as was previously determined by the old was an element agency in

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2003? Major decisions are taken by

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ministers, that is always the case. I would investigate the issue and

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write to the member, but I was in Swansea on Sunday and was impressed

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by the progress that had been made in the City of the last few years

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as somebody who worked in the city in the 1990s, and it is testament

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of course to the great progress that was made by S A one and the

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developments that have been made in the city centre and the old

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Victoria Dock. The leader of the opposition.

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First Minister, he issued a statement this morning regarding

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allegations that have been in the press over the weekend and I'm

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grateful for that statement that you clarified some positions from

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the last Government's perspective and I concur entirely with your

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sentiments in the opening remarks about how the allegations in the

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first instance need to be addressed to the police and to the relevant

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authorities so that they can be investigated fully and that people

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who do have concerns field of those investigations are going to be done

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in an open and transparent manner. You go one in that statement to

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highlight their children's commissioner's appointment if and

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the creation out of the Waterhouse review that that a wide band was

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one of the recommendations. But you also say that he invited the

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current commission its to explain his position and a call for a new

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inquiry. Is this the first time that these observations have come

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out of the Chilterns Commissioner's Office were have there been

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discussions with the Wells Government around that have been

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highlighted in the press recently? The meeting is taking place this

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afternoon between my place -- myself and the children's

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commissioner. I received a letter from him when he asked what kind of

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inquiry will take place within the last Government's competence. I'm

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aware of the Home Secretary said this afternoon. I will take account

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of that and devil take account of what the children's Commissioner

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says this afternoon. There are a number of issues that were caught

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within the allegations that have been made. Some of the murder

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Bolton some of them are on the ball. It is important that any future

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inquiry, should that take place, as cover most of those areas and would

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require joint approach by both governments.

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I agree entirely with you with the joint approach because you're quite

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right. Obviously, there are two areas of confidence. There are one

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with Westminster among the there was Government. If you go on and

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the cement to highlight how you that reports to be made to you

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about allegations about actions of the was Government for and what

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could be taken as a matter of urgency. We are aware, of Bisley,

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of the statement that has been made in a house of Commons today by

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Theresa May. When were you a in a position to enlighten members about

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the outcome of those reports and the decisions that you're going to

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take as to whether the Welsh Government needs to play a more

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proactive role in any of these inquiries? Off I plan to issue a

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statement following the meeting with the children's commissioner

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this afternoon. The final part of the question I

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would like to draw your attention to is obviously p Waterhouse did

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highlight -- Waterhouse reports did highlight the appointment of the

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Children's Commissioner. There were a whole load of other

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recommendations made in that report. So are you aware of any of the

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recommendations, particularly at the cosy, but as there has been

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suggestions that it remains morning's press that the support

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and at it is that was it was a consort from the Waterhouse

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recommendations has not been called for it, so is the Government and

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yourself in particular aware of any of the key recommendations that

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need for the scrutiny and need support to make sure that they do

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become a reality for many of the victims from the initial inquiry?

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No such representations have been made to me, but the Waterhouse

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inquiry was important in terms of what it did before the future of

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for abducted children in Wales, particularly the establishment of

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the children's Commission- children's commissioners position.

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I am not aware of any issues that remain outstanding due to the

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allegations that have been made. I well of course we visit the

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recommendations made by the Waterhouse inquiry in order to get

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understand whether there is more that can be done. I will explore

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those issues that the children's commissioner as well.

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And now the leader of the last Liberal Democrats.

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All of us here will be concerned about allegations of child abuse in

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North Wales and I know there is an urgent question tabled for me from

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this afternoon. By party is committed to co-operating with he

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and others on the serious issues and we endorse the approach that

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you have taken as First Minister in working with the UK Government on

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this important manner. First Minister, why can't the people of

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Scotland -- can have the people of Scotland and England making a

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merger dabblers Caltha expect an ambulance to arrive that in eight

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minutes semi by % of The Times, but under Labour in Wales, people have

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to settle for a 65% target. ambulance signs have hit their

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target more often than not over the last few months. We always seek to

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improve the service in the future. I am surprised that the First

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Minister has chosen to repeat that line, a line that he told me last

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month. Actually, in fact, for the nine months of 2012, Ambulance

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performance and targets that have been published, they have been met

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just four times and have been missed five times. But those

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targets are already less ambitious than those in England and Scotland

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and in fact the response times have been going down for the last three

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months running. Are you satisfied, First Minister, that was response

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raised for ambulances are improving in Scotland and England, the

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picture in Wales, despite what you say, if you do it at figures, is

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I know that there has to has allocated �1 million to the health

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boards, to deliver a riddance improvement proposals as part of

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the �10 million fund. What we do know is that that up until last

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week, the ambulance trust doesn't even have an agreed budget for this

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financial year, let alone the next one. The UN are bridging the winter

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months. The government didn't meet its own inadequate targets during

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this midsummer. Two years ago, there was a massive deterioration

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in abundance response times are very 45 % of candidates is actually

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reaching emergency calls within 80 minutes. What extra measures have

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been put in place by or health and a step to ensure that ambulances

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will be able to adequately cope with winter pressures this year?

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The number refers to when the weather was particularly bad and

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that is when response times did drop. -- for member. We have been

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looking at ways to ensure that the roads are kept open as much as

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possible through an adequate supply of salt and to ensure that people

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do choose well, in terms of insurer will that they know when to call an

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ambulance and when not. First Minister, much of the information

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collected by Waterhouse was never made public on the assumption that

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a legal action would follow on the the 20th perpetrators who were

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identified by the review, but whose identities were never published. In

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many cases, this has not happened. Can you tell us what discussions

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you've had with the UK government on this matter, as to why this

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follow-up never happened? Would you also agree with me that now is the

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time for that information to be published? The UK government has

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today announced that it is looking again at the remit of the inquiry

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at whether it was broad enough. Also, they have asked for the

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National crime agency to conduct investigations into the allegations

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that have been made. It seems right to make that approach. Do you

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believe it is important that information is published because

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we've also had another report, which was pulped, and that was an

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inquiry into abuse at the former county of Clwyd. That report and

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never saw the light of day. Would you agree to do whatever you can

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have to ensure that a copy of that report is obtained? Would you agree

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that if you can obtain without report, you publish the findings?

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agree there should be as much transparency as possible, which is

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why I am talking of to the Children's Commissioner this

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afternoon at have been in touch with the UK government. The last

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thing we should do is have a go of completing inquiries. That is in

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nobody's interest, let alone... I would agree and I welcome the

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fact you are meeting with the children as commissioner. Would you

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agree, First Minister, that all child protection services in Wales

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and the children as commissioner's office should be fully funded, so

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that children and adults can feel that they can go to the Children's

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Commissioner and get a full and fair hearing? Yes, I do. I do

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regret the words of the leader of Plaid Cymru who suggested this

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morning that the government was standing in the way of an inquiry.

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I did know where she get that impression from because it is far

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from the case. I also think it is important to remind those people

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who have suffered, that they should get in touch either with the police

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of the traditions commissioner. In that way, the allegations can be

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investigated had they can be directed towards cancer. I do not

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think it should be -- it is in -- appropriate that they get in touch

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with for politicians. They should get in touch with the authorities

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who can do things for them and probably investigate their

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complaints. -- properly. What action is the Welsh government

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taking to improve child protection? The written statement by the deputy

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minister for children of 18th October set out the details of the

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safeguarding of protection arrangements that would be included

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in the well-being of the bill. is of course seven years since a

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government rejected a committee proposal on an independent advocacy

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service for children and as late as this year, the children Angela

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People's Committee are reminded... The failure of advocacy services,

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saying, the situation must be addressed as a matter of urgency.

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In response to your earlier reply, perhaps I can assist with a quote

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from the children's Commissioner's Annual General report this here?

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Wales has been on an advocacy Ginnie for 10 years following the

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publication of the Waterhouse report and yet still find itself

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without a clear set of sex -- are checks and balances. Children must

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be heard. Do you regret your Government's decision not to

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introduce an independent advocacy service years ago? Freda that

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broadly, are our child protection arrangements are robust but

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throughout mechanisms such as the Bill, when we hope it is a past, we

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can ensure that children are safeguarded to an even higher

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standard than before over the past few days, evidence has emerged...

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Evidence has emerged which can not be -- could not be considered as

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part of the original inquiry. The abuse that took place in care homes

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was truly sickening had horrific. My concern is that with so many

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inquiries being commissioned, it may be time for an overarching

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criminal investigation into child abuse. Would you agree with me that

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operation you tree should be expanded to include an

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investigation into all allegations of abuse? -- Operation Yewtree.

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There is a link between a piece which has taken place in the UK and

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beyond. It would make sense that the police investigation is as

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wide-ranging as possible and I would certainly discuss his points

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with the appropriate authorities in London to make sure that in this

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area, as much work is done in order to investigate the very serious

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allegations that have been reiterated again over the past week.

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Following the recent publicity around Jamie Saville also

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activities, statutory and voluntary organisations say they have been

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inundated with calls from victims of abuse. -- Savile. We are now

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hearing about abuse which may have gone back decades. Those victims

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may need immediate cancer. Were you ensure that those services are made

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available? -- immediate counselling. People must be directed towards

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appropriate counselling. They can then provide information to the

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children as commissioner and get the help they need. TRANSLATION:

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Thank you. Will the first minister make a statement all health service

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reconfiguration plans in west Wales? TRANSLATION: The health

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board has recently concluded it public consultation and the board

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will now consider the consultation responses. TRANSLATION: As you say,

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first minister, the health board Commission concluded last week and

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I'm pleased that the Minister will make a statement in light of these

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consultations, in order to give their views of your government on

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other plans. Come the first was to tell us when other health minister

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will make such a statement, because it is important that that statement

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should be made as soon as possible. People in my constituency are

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concerned about some of these plans. TRANSLATION: Well, of course I

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understand that the board is going to announce the latest plans by the

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end of this year or very early in the following year. Of course, the

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timing of that will impact on any state would the minister makes.

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Royal College of Nursing has expressed concerns that many of the

:23:56.:24:00.

proposed developments will depend on the new India sing roles. There

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is no evidence of a nursing strategy within the health

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consultation document. What discussions has the wild government

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had with the board regarding its strategy for the recruitment,

:24:13.:24:17.

training and deployment? understand the director has

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developed a preliminary missing plan for the health so -- Health

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Board. His plan will be modified once the analysis has been

:24:28.:24:38.
:24:38.:24:43.

completed. TRANSLATION: York government policy is to move health

:24:43.:24:45.

care from hospitals into the community. -- your government

:24:45.:24:49.

policy. Or you aware of the financial concern that local

:24:49.:24:55.

authorities have about this policy, as the health board plans to

:24:56.:24:58.

transfer some of the responsibility? There is no mention

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of a financial transferred to the local authority. It also has a

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Mariko of course, I understand and we would expect a the Budget to

:25:08.:25:18.
:25:18.:25:19.

follow the service. -- TRANSLATION: Of course. Will the First Minister

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make a statement called the Welsh Government's transport priorities

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for mid-Wales? Yes, they are to be finding the national transport plan

:25:27.:25:31.

for stock thank you. I know you will agree with me that the Newtown

:25:31.:25:34.

will bypass is a priority for the future growth of mid-Wales and it

:25:34.:25:39.

is in your national transport plan as a priority. A colleague, the

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minister, has confirmed to me in a written will question that the

:25:43.:25:53.
:25:53.:25:54.

project will start construction in late 2014. -- your colleague. The

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announcement for the preferred contractor or was due to be made

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this autumn but will now be made next year, as I understand. I would

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be grateful if you would tell me why there has been this slippage

:26:07.:26:12.

and further grateful if you could tell me if you will agree to

:26:12.:26:15.

provide me with a detailed timetable for the project, so I can

:26:15.:26:20.

keep my constituents updated. right to say that the intention is

:26:20.:26:24.

to appoint the successful contractor or early in the new year.

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That will not affect the share deal in terms of construction. Non-

:26:31.:26:34.

emergency plantation transport remains a serious concern for

:26:34.:26:40.

people mid-Wales. -- patient transport. People say the service

:26:40.:26:47.

doesn't operate smooth defeat at a doesn't need to Leeds. -- operate

:26:47.:26:54.

smoothly. I understand that the Palace Health Board pilots on

:26:54.:26:57.

developing a mixed delivery of Transport to make better use of

:26:57.:27:01.

resources and to further improve performance and utilisation. The

:27:01.:27:06.

performance indicators are the last year show a reduction in waiting

:27:06.:27:09.

times and improved efficiency. Other health boards are considering

:27:09.:27:17.

other issues, as part of the plans to improve their services.

:27:17.:27:27.
:27:27.:27:27.

TRANSLATION: Your government and Network Rail have invested some �60

:27:27.:27:35.

million in Anusol ignore a system on the camera will live. --

:27:35.:27:39.

Cambrian line. However, there has been no improvement in the service

:27:39.:27:44.

for those people who are using the trains through Aberystwyth, become

:27:44.:27:52.

Sheth -- and other North Wales towns, so when will we see and an

:27:52.:27:58.

hourly service on that live in mid- Wales? The hope is that the service

:27:58.:28:05.

will improve during 2014 and 2015. We are working with a network rail

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on the timetable in -- to ensure that there are more daily services,

:28:10.:28:18.

or services during the daytime on the mid-Wales line. Of course, we

:28:18.:28:23.

wished to progress our national transport plan. A well the first

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minister give an update on government bills proceeding through

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the assembly? -- will the first minister. It there are three bills

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-- there are three bills at the moment. Can I congratulate the

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First Minister on the legislative programme? There is a danger... If

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we had the same devolution settlement as Northern Ireland as

:28:49.:28:56.

Scotland,... The reserve powers model is undoubtedly easier to

:28:56.:29:06.
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One of the bills that year poses a Planning Bill, that many members of

:29:13.:29:18.

the public would be appreciated of. I understand there has been a

:29:18.:29:21.

degree of slippage in this bill coming forward. Can you update the

:29:22.:29:27.

timetable? The plan is to introduce it before

:29:27.:29:34.

the end of next year. TRANSLATION: The First Minister

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will be aware that in at the School Standards Bill, it is a requirement

:29:39.:29:46.

for local authorities to assess the demand for Welsh medium education.

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If that assessment then demonstrates that the demand is

:29:49.:29:52.

greater than the provision, will the Government be willing to accept

:29:52.:29:56.

an amendment which will make it a requirement for the authority to

:29:56.:30:01.

improve the Welsh medium provision? TRANSLATION: The time to consider

:30:01.:30:05.

that is when the bill itself actually progresses through the

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Assembly and I'm sure that we will consider any sensible amendments

:30:10.:30:16.

proposed in order to strengthen Welsh medium education.

:30:16.:30:21.

Question seven will not be asks. Question eight.

:30:21.:30:25.

What's discussion has the Welsh Government had put the UK

:30:25.:30:29.

Government to abolish living buns has since?

:30:29.:30:32.

More meetings are planned on the future of the Independent living

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Fund, which we believe will have a final decision made upon it by the

:30:37.:30:45.

end of this year. At the consultation meeting that

:30:45.:30:49.

took place in Cardiff in August, many carers are expressed

:30:49.:30:53.

considerable concern at the impact this will have on their disables

:30:53.:30:59.

loved ones and their very concerns that this money which enables these

:30:59.:31:04.

disabled people to have some sort of normal life, to have social

:31:04.:31:09.

contacts, to go shopping etc, that they could be deprived of that if,

:31:09.:31:14.

when the money is devolved to Wales, that the UK Government use this as

:31:14.:31:17.

an opportunity to actually cut the amount of money available.

:31:18.:31:25.

Our preferred position would be that the fund remains as it is. If

:31:25.:31:27.

responsibility is transferred to Wales, we would wants to be

:31:27.:31:32.

reassured that the level of any transfer is sufficient to meet the

:31:32.:31:39.

ongoing needs of our population and that it is allocated fairly.

:31:39.:31:42.

I think it is important that there is a fair allocation of these

:31:42.:31:49.

resources. If they do come to Wales. Can I ask what preparatory work is

:31:49.:31:53.

being done by the Welsh Government with local authorities about the

:31:53.:31:58.

possibilities of this been devolved and how it might be implemented if

:31:58.:32:02.

the devolution was actually made available?

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There have been a number of discussions between officials but

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we do not know yet what the final decision will be. Nor do we know

:32:09.:32:14.

what the final amount of money to be transferred will be, either. The

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experience shows that where this happens, the opportunity is taken

:32:18.:32:22.

by the Treasury to cut the level of funding in order to meet the same

:32:23.:32:26.

level of service. We certainly hope this will not be repeated with the

:32:26.:32:34.

Independent living Fund. Thank you for your previous answers

:32:34.:32:38.

and I appreciate your hands are somewhat tied, but have there been

:32:38.:32:41.

any contingency measures that there was Government can take to insure

:32:41.:32:44.

that disabled people living in Wales will not be fully

:32:44.:32:47.

disadvantaged if this living fund is closed?

:32:47.:32:53.

We do not know what the final decision is. Until we have

:32:53.:32:56.

certainty in regard to how much money will be given to us, it is

:32:56.:33:02.

hard to plan for the future. If the UK Government wishes to devolve the

:33:02.:33:06.

Independent living Fund, at we would like it is a refund the month

:33:06.:33:11.

that is in place at the moment. It is not just a case of fully

:33:11.:33:16.

funding the current usage, because the previous Labour Government

:33:16.:33:19.

actually closed the Independent living Fund to new entrants and

:33:19.:33:24.

2008. There are curdy people living in Wales who historically were

:33:24.:33:28.

receipt of payments, whereas new entrants are not going to be in

:33:28.:33:32.

receipt of those. I would urge the Government to undertake some

:33:32.:33:36.

preparatory work on this, given that we may be faced that the

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situation where we only have 15 months as a Government to respond

:33:39.:33:43.

to the situation. If we get the decision by the end

:33:43.:33:47.

of the year, we can decide what consultation needs to take place

:33:47.:33:51.

and that will leave us time to plan transitional arrangements up to and

:33:51.:33:57.

beyond 2015. Will the First Minister provide an

:33:57.:34:00.

update on what the last Government is doing to ensure that those

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suffering from hearing loss or deafness can play a full are active

:34:04.:34:08.

part in their communities? I joined in the member with

:34:08.:34:11.

aspirations that those with hearing loss are deaf this can play an

:34:11.:34:15.

active part in their communities. A consultation document on the

:34:16.:34:18.

framework for action for independent living sets out how we

:34:18.:34:22.

aim to support this. The All Party Group on deaf issues

:34:22.:34:26.

recently received a report that has some alarming statistics and it.

:34:26.:34:30.

Only seven of the 22 local authorities in Wales are able to

:34:30.:34:34.

identify how much they spend unassisted equipment. Only five of

:34:34.:34:38.

those terrible to provide a breakdown for the last five years.

:34:38.:34:43.

40% of local authorities do not have a sensor what more can we us

:34:43.:34:47.

Government do to ensure that local authorities develop a more

:34:47.:34:50.

consistent and co-ordinated approach on this front?

:34:50.:34:54.

We published guidelines in 2009 to integrate community services

:34:54.:34:59.

between local authorities and the NHS. That was backed was �12.8

:34:59.:35:02.

million to improve the infrastructure of those services.

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All of Wales as I covered by partnerships between the NHS and

:35:05.:35:12.

local Government underpinned by formal partnership agreements.

:35:12.:35:19.

My local hospital has given me excellent advice on hearing loss.

:35:19.:35:22.

My daughter is having an implant operation next week and has

:35:22.:35:26.

received excellent support from the council, the Health Board and the

:35:26.:35:29.

UK Government access to work schemes for disabled people and

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work. But I can be sure that those three key agencies are made known

:35:35.:35:40.

to people when their first diagnosed with hearing loss, rather

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than leaving them often struggling with something that is new, and

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quite frightening. I would hope that the partnership

:35:50.:35:53.

agreements that foreign place would be able to help people in terms of

:35:53.:35:58.

understanding how to get the help that they need to. I can say that

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the minister has received a report on the provision of communication

:36:02.:36:05.

aids and equipment and has submitted that review for scrutiny

:36:05.:36:10.

by an expert panel on the third sector. That will report earlier in

:36:10.:36:18.

the new year. TRANSLATION: The guidelines on a

:36:18.:36:22.

deaf and blind people do give people their rights for a needs

:36:22.:36:26.

assessment by a person who is properly qualified. As we have

:36:26.:36:30.

already heard, there are not many people in local authorities that

:36:30.:36:37.

have the necessary skills and qualifications. They're usually the

:36:37.:36:40.

first point of contact in call centres or her a receptionist at

:36:40.:36:44.

the front desk or so on. What steps were you Government do to ensure

:36:44.:36:48.

that local authorities follows statutory guidelines and that staff

:36:48.:36:52.

have in the 30s can identify some of the specific needs and refer

:36:52.:36:56.

people to those who are appropriately qualified and when

:36:56.:36:59.

you're also won sure that the new Social Services Bill will

:36:59.:37:02.

strengthen rather than dilute the guidance?

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TRANSLATION: I am not aware of local authorities that do not

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follow the guidelines. If you do have examples, then I would be very

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pleased to lick at any evidence. As regards our funding for bodies to

:37:19.:37:27.

assist deaf or blind people, we do that with the support of the

:37:27.:37:32.

British Deaf Association and of course Sense, which gives us

:37:33.:37:40.

assistance. Will the First Minister provide an

:37:40.:37:45.

update on the last Government's energy policy?

:37:45.:37:47.

It is our aim to enhance the economic, social and environmental

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well-being of the people, and communities of wheels through

:37:51.:37:57.

providing low carbon energy system. Would you agree with me that one of

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the biggest disincentives to large energy companies investing in Wales

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is the Welsh Government's processes? It stick Empire six

:38:05.:38:12.

years to gain the relevant permits for the Pembrokeshire Power plants.

:38:12.:38:16.

Equivalent applications in England usually take two years. Even with

:38:16.:38:19.

the new natural resources body, this performance is not acceptable

:38:19.:38:22.

if Wales is to promote itself as a beater and venue for large energy

:38:22.:38:27.

products. How is this being addressed and I got this message be

:38:27.:38:29.

communicated to large energy companies looking to invest in our

:38:29.:38:35.

country in the future? The formation of natural resources

:38:35.:38:39.

Wales is designed to ensure that the promising process is robust and

:38:39.:38:45.

Swift's where appropriate. Instead of having three bodies that reflect

:38:45.:38:50.

the environment, there will be one body to take all decisions. That

:38:50.:38:54.

will lead to a situation where decisions will be taken robustly

:38:54.:39:03.

but within a proper amount of time. TRANSLATION: What other bus

:39:03.:39:08.

Government's plans to increase renewable energy?

:39:08.:39:18.
:39:18.:39:18.

TRANSLATION: Energy Wales set up the Government's approach to the

:39:18.:39:21.

transition to a low carbon and renewable forms of energy

:39:21.:39:26.

generation. TRANSLATION: There are figures that

:39:26.:39:30.

demonstrate that the increase in renewable energy in England is

:39:30.:39:38.

17.8%. It is 9.9% in Scotland and only 2.7% in Wales. Wide you

:39:38.:39:42.

believe that the increase here in Wales is so paltry in comparison to

:39:42.:39:45.

the increase in a neighbouring countries?

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TRANSLATION: As regards Scotland, it is the fact that there is more

:39:49.:39:54.

money available for energy companies, because the fact that

:39:54.:39:57.

Scotland's controls the rocks and they can then control investment

:39:57.:40:03.

into Scotland. We believe that Wales should be in the same

:40:03.:40:05.

position and we are still telling the UK Government that. We should

:40:05.:40:10.

be given the same treatment as Scotland and Northern Ireland.

:40:10.:40:16.

You Government designated its Anglesey has the energy Isles. As a

:40:16.:40:19.

result of that, there will likely have to be some substantial

:40:19.:40:24.

upgrades to the National Grid. And energy enterprise zone in Anglesey.

:40:24.:40:31.

But when you Government had the opportunity to influence the new

:40:31.:40:33.

infrastructure on the energy network strategy group,

:40:33.:40:37.

particularly in relationship to pile on white, which will affect

:40:37.:40:43.

communities in North Wales, you're officials did not stand up and say

:40:43.:40:50.

a word for Wales, despite the fact that Scottish officials fought

:40:50.:40:55.

repeatedly and vocally to defend their national interests. When you

:40:55.:40:59.

give people in the North Wales the assurance that when you Government

:40:59.:41:03.

has the opportunity to stand up and speak up for people in North Wales,

:41:03.:41:08.

you will take that opportunity? I am not sure what the member

:41:08.:41:16.

defines as Wales's national interests? You should declare your

:41:16.:41:20.

interests against the job opportunities that we will provide.

:41:20.:41:25.

I met with National Grid two weeks ago. It was not my first meeting.

:41:25.:41:28.

We have regular meetings with them what they view to ensuring that the

:41:28.:41:32.

grid structure is robust, but also that there is maximum benefit for

:41:32.:41:36.

the people of Wales. I know the member keeps on saying that

:41:36.:41:39.

officials haven't done this and that, but member-ministers are

:41:39.:41:44.

doing a tremendous amount for the people of Wales.

:41:44.:41:49.

What is the last Government doing to help improve services for those

:41:49.:41:52.

with speech and language difficulties? Off we propose to

:41:52.:41:55.

replace the statutory framework for assessment and planning provision

:41:55.:41:58.

for children and young people special educational needs were the

:41:58.:42:02.

simple and or personal system and we hope that this will have a

:42:02.:42:06.

positive impact on a all learners, including those with speech and

:42:06.:42:12.

language difficulties. A few weeks ago, I opened the

:42:12.:42:17.

British stammering Association's open day in Cardiff although

:42:17.:42:21.

success of films like the King's Speech have highlighted the

:42:21.:42:26.

difficulties that people who stammer face, there are still major

:42:26.:42:30.

problems. What more can we us Government do to help people who

:42:30.:42:35.

stammer? To add to what I said to remember

:42:35.:42:38.

earlier in the June of this year, the minister announced the launch

:42:38.:42:40.

of the forward in partnership for children and young people with

:42:40.:42:45.

additional needs consultation, which sets out our proposals for

:42:45.:42:49.

reform as a mention earlier wrongs. The attention is to create a truly

:42:49.:42:52.

personal system which will help all those with speech and language

:42:52.:42:58.

difficulties and those who stammer. We believe First Minister's

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