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Today's news in the Assembly has bean domiladed bx the s`ccing nf the

In the last ten minutes it has been announced that Edwina Hart will

In the last ten minutes it has been this possibility for agriculture to

In the last ten minutes it has been her current portfolio.

In the last ten minutes it has been Griffiths will

In the last ten minutes it has been Griffiths wall take

In the last ten minutes it has been Griffiths will take over on

envibonmelt Griffiths will take over on

entibonmelt policy. Griffiths will take over on

environment policy. The First Griffiths will take over on

Minister said his Griffiths will take over on

unacceptable. The leader of the Griffiths will take over on

opposition has tabled an Griffiths will take over on

question on the issue and it will be quasdion nn the hssue and it will be

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Minister. the programme or any other political

news, please get in touch with us. Well,

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at today's questions to the First Milicter and the emergencq question

on the sacking of Alun Davies. The

now in session and before we start now in sessaon ald before we start

the questions on the paper this tha auestions on t`e paper this

morning, tha auestions on t`e paper this

mornang, H tha auestions on t`e paper this

morning, I have this afternoon and urgent quesdion.

morning, I have this afternoon and urgent question. I call on Andrew

morning, I have this afternoon and urgent quesdion. I call on Andrew RT

urgent qudsdion. I call on Andrew RT Davies to ask the question.

urgent qudsdion. I call on Andrew RT Will the First Minister make a

statement on the exit of the Will the First Minister make a

Minister for Will the First Minister make a

Milicter dob Natural Resources Will the First Minister make a

Minister for Natural Resources and Will the First Minister make a

Food Cabinet? Such a statement has been provided

some hours ago. Such a statement has been provided

In very shobt Such a statement has been provided

In very short answer indeed, First Minicter.

In very short answer indeed, First Milicter. I think

In very short answer indeed, First Minister. I think it is

In very short answer indeed, First recapping. Last week this

In very short answer indeed, First was breaking the Ministerial Code

In very short answer indeed, First but he was not sacked by the First

In very short answer indeed, First Minister. A day later, the

Minicter. A day later, the minhster was seeking to break it again by

Minicter. A day later, the minhster asking for personal details of five

meibers asking for personal details of five

members of asking for personal details of five

meibers of this asking for personal details of five

members of this particular chamber, asking for personal details of five

including myself. He was warned by incleding mqself, @e war warned by

his private secretary it was his `rivate secretary it was wrong

and yet he verbally asked again. his `rivate secretary it was wrong

Wouldn't Damien Wright be his `rivate secretary it was wrong

this behaviour? Can you confirm that this isn't normal practice within

this behaviour? Can you confirm that the

this behaviour? Can you confirm that tha Gelsh governlent

this behaviour? Can you confirm that the Welsh government by other

the Welsh governlent by other ministers and ultimately, can you

the Welsh governlent by other confirm, First

the Welsh governlent by other give the public confidence that

thase give the public confidence that

these prabtaces give the public confidence that

these practices do not exist across the rest of your government that he

these practices do not exist across will instigate an independent

these practices do not exist across enquiry so that we can have the

these practices do not exist across confidence there isn't widespread

these practices do not exist across this practice and this is

these practices do not exist across actions of an individual Minister

actions od an individual Minister who has been removed from

actions od an individual Minister government?

govebnment? Can I

govebnment? Can A remhnd the

govebnment? Can I remind the leader of the

oppocitiol Can I remind the leader of the

opposition that it was the Minister 's private office that took steps to

opposition that it was the Minister prevent this moving forward. I took

acpion prevent this moving forward. I took

action on this as quickly as I action on t`is ar quickly as I

could. We peblished action on t`is ar quickly as I

could. We published the correspondence, including the

e-iaal, correspondence, including the

e-mail, very proactively. correspondence, including the

possible members may not have known possable lembers may not `ave jnown

about the existence of that e-mail possable lembers may not `ave jnown

if it hadn't been published. It is a possable lembers may not `ave jnown

sign that we are an open government and we will publish e-mails even

sign that we are an open government when they are

sign that we are an open government whan they abe didfacult

sign that we are an open government when they are difficult for us and

than when they are difficult for us and

then action is taken where I feel when they are difficult for us and

ministers are no longer able to when they are difficult for us and

continue when they are difficult for us and

contanue hn when they are difficult for us and

continue in their jobs. when they are difficult for us and

Can I remind them that this is questions to the First Minister, not

Can I remind them that this is a statement. Kirsty Williams.

a statemelt. irstq illiams. Today's revelations about the

behafiour Today's revelations about the

behaviour of the former natural Today's revelations about the

resources Minister Today's revelations about the

resoerces Manister are Today's revelations about the

resources Minister are shocking and resoerces Minister are rhockinf and

inexcusable. Do you now regret not inaxcusable. o xou now regret not

sacking Aled Davies last week and inaxcusable. o xou now regret not

does that not inaxcusable. o xou now regret not

doas that not speac inaxcusable. o xou now regret not

does that not speak volumes about a sevebe

does that not speak volumes about a setebe lapse

does that not speak volumes about a severe lapse in judgement on your

part? severe lapse in judgement on your

Well, the leader of the Liberal Well, the leader of the Laberal

Democrats fundamentally this Democrats fendamdntally t`is

understands the situation, namely that the minister lost his position

to`aq has that the minister lost his position

today has nothing to do with the that the minister lost his position

circuit of Wales. It occurred on the 2nd

circuit of Wales. It occurred on the 2n` of

circuit of Wales. It occurred on the 2nd of July. It is not possible to

sack somebody before they have done sack somebody bedore thdy have done

something which ends than the loss sack somebody bedore thdy have done

of their job. What I can say sack somebody bedore thdy have done

when this came sack somebody bedore thdy have done

whan this came to sack somebody bedore thdy have done

when this came to my attention, sack somebody bedore thdy have done

decided that action should sack somebody bedore thdy have done

decided thad action should be takeN decided thad action should be taken

and the e-mails should be published and dhe e-mails rhould be published

proactively. Nobody can suggest and dhe e-mails rhould be published

government was put in this and dhe e-mails rhould be published

situation. I decided members should be aware of what happened and the

action be aware of what happened and the

acpion I be aware of what happened and the

action I took because I believe be aware of what happened and the

is the right be aware of what happened and the

is the righd way of be aware of what happened and the

is the right way of conducting be aware of what happened and the

Leanne Wood. be aware of what happened and the

First Minister, this fiasco not be aware of what happened and the

brings your judgement into be aware of what happened and the

bup at be aware of what happened and the

but it also risks reflecting poorly be aware of what happened and the

on this institution. Do you now accept that it is wrong in terms of

on this institution. Do you now braaches of

on this institution. Do you now breaches of the Ministerial Code

on this institution. Do you now that you act as judge

on this institution. Do you now that you acd as hudge and jury and

that you act as judge and jury and wihl

that you act as judge and jury and will you now

that you act as judge and jury and wihl you low support calls for

that you act as judge and jury and will you now support calls for those

functions to be passed onto an fulctions to be passed nnto an

independent adjudicator? in`e`endelt adjudicator?

I would never accept the situation whan

I would never accept the situation when somebody other than the

I would never accept the situation Milicter ban

I would never accept the situation Minister can appoint or remove

I would never accept the situation Cabinet ministers. That is

fundamentally undemocratic and her party did not accept that and would

fundamentally undemocratic and her nop accept

fundamentally undemocratic and her not accept it in the previous

govebnment. not accept it in the previous

government. It does not exist elsewhere in the UK. That

elseghere in the UC. Th`t is fundamentally wrong. It is my

elseghere in the UC. Th`t is for bettep or

elseghere in the UC. Th`t is for better or worse,

elseghere in the UC. Th`t is for bettep or worse, to

elseghere in the UC. Th`t is for better or worse, to police

for bettep or wopse, to police the Ministerial Code, and not an

Milicterial Code, and nnt an unelected individual. That is

Milicterial Code, and nnt an point of democracy. What I will

Milicterial Code, and nnt an poind of democraby. hat A will say

Milicterial Code, and nnt an to the leader of Plaid

Milicterial Code, and nnt an I took this

Milicterial Code, and nnt an I pook this decision

Milicterial Code, and nnt an I took this decision proactively,

Milicterial Code, and nnt an the correspondence was published

proactively. It maq well be the correspondence was published

proactively. It may well be the case that this case may never have come

to laght that this case may never have come

to light but I took the that this case may never have come

to laght `ud I tooc the view that this case may never have come

to light but I took the view that that this case may never have come

was grong. At was important thd was grong, It war amportant thd

correspondence was published and coprespondence was publis`ed and

action was taken and it shows that action war daken and it s`ows that

the system has worked. Or`eb!

the system has worked. Order! That is why I believe it is

impobtant Order! That is why I believe it is

important that where I become aware impobtant t`at where I become `ware

of instances such as this, action is taken

of instances such as this, action is Antoinette Sandbach.

I woeld Antoinette Sandbach.

I would like to put on record my I woeld like to put on record ly

thanks for I woeld like to put on record ly

thancs fop dhe abtaons nf I woeld like to put on record ly

servants who briefly brought this to yoqr

servants who briefly brought this to your attention. Because,

servants who briefly brought this to yoqr attention. @ecause, of course,

your attention. Because, of course, what they were being asked to do was

in bbeach what they were being asked to do was

in breach of the Data Protection what they were being asked to do was

Act, and act which detects what they were being asked to do was

Acp, and `cd which detects every Act, and act which detects every

citizen of the Act, and act which detects every

against dhsclosures Act, and act which detects every

against disclosures of this sort. In Act, and act which detects every

plenary last week I asked you to proactively publish corresponddnce

proactively publish correspondence whic`

proactively publish correspondence which I had requested in my

proactively publish correspondence whic` I h`d requested in my e-mail

proactively publish correspondence of the 13th of June and I followed

that up with a request on the 2nd that up wit` a request nn the 2nd of

July for further information that up wit` a request nn the 2nd of

Juhy for dubther informataon to be July for dubther inform`taon to be

proactively published by you, proactively publis`ed bx qou,

relating to rehading to the hnvestigation. In

particular, details of any rehading to the hnvestigation. In

correspondence between the Minister an` dhe

correspondence between the Minister and the Minister

correspondence between the Minister an` dhe Minister for

correspondence between the Minister and the Minister for planning and

the Minister for the economy, in respect of finance or planning in

the respect of finance or planning in

tha circuht respect of finance or planning in

the circuit of Wales. Could you plaace...

the circuit of Wales. Could you please... I asked also for

the circuit of Wales. Could you confirmation...

the circuit of Wales. Could you Yes, thank you. Would you

the circuit of Wales. Could you Yes, thanj qou. Vould ynu give an

the circuit of Wales. Could you assurance that no correspondence

the circuit of Wales. Could you other than that published in annex

otheb thal dhat publishdd in annex three exist? And that

otheb thal dhat publishdd in annex thpee exist? And t`at he

otheb thal dhat publishdd in annex place in the libpary,

otheb thal dhat publishdd in annex place in the library, as he said

otheb thal dhat publishdd in annex would on the 1st of July, the

correspondence would on the 1st of July, the

coprespondence ald would on the 1st of July, the

correspondence and the details that would on the 1st of July, the

have been requested in ly e-mahl of have been requested in my e-mail of

tha have been requested in my e-mail of

the "nd od Buly? have been requested in my e-mail of

First Minister. The member seems to suggest that on the 30th of June she

First Minister. The member seems to wanted to see an e-mail that didn't

exisd wanted to see an e-mail that didn't

exist until three days later. It is exist until three days later. Ht is

confused, what she has just exist until three days later. Ht is

suggested. There is no doubt that exist until three days later. Ht is

the private office took the right stapc

the private office took the right steps and that is why the

the private office took the right information was never released. That

showc information was never released. That

shows that the system is working. I information was never released. That

became aware of the situation information was never released. That

Friday. I looked at length at the sipuation

Friday. I looked at length at the situation yesterday and of course,

Friday. I looked at length at the the decision was taken this morning.

It shows that private offices are It shows that private offaces `re

not afraid to take It shows that private offaces `re

nop afraid do take action where It shows that private offaces `re

not afraid to take action where they It shows that private offaces `re

believe breaches of the It shows that private offaces `re

Code may occur. That is why action has been taken, proactive action has

did their jobs. di` dheir jobs.

Llyr Gruffydd bearing di` dheir jobs.

Llyr Grufdydd bearang in mind di` dheir jobs.

Llyr Gruffydd bearing in mind the di` dheir jobs.

gravaty of dhis di` dheir jobs.

gravity of this issue, First gravaty of dhis hssue, First

Minister, would you gravaty of dhis hssue, First

Milicter, would you accept gravaty of dhis hssue, First

Minister, would you accept the Minister to come and make a

Minister, would you accept the statement to us in this chamber

statement to us hn this c`amber and would you expecting to make

statement to us hn this c`amber and statement to the individuals who

were statement to the individuals who

It is not possible for a former statement to the individuals who

minister to make a statement statement to the individuals who

minicter to make a statement about statement to the individuals who

the time when they were a Minister. tha dime vhen thdy were a Minister.

That is the system. There is That is the system. here is a

system of making a personal That is the system. here is a

statement but it is not possible to statement bet it is not possible to

ask any questions on that so I don't thinc thepe

ask any questions on that so I don't think there is any mechanism to make

sure that happens. think there is any mechanism to make

Thank you very much. I have no more think there is any mechanism to make

speakers on that question so I think there is any mechanism to make

move think there is any mechanism to make

mote to think there is any mechanism to make

move to the paper and questions to think there is any mechanism to make

First Minister. David think there is any mechanism to make

What actions are the Welsh think there is any mechanism to make

government taking to strengthen manufactuping

government taking to strengthen manufacturing in Wales?

government taking to strengthen Manufacturing is key to the Welsh

Manufactuping is key to t`e Welsh economy ald we

Manufactuping is key to t`e Welsh the manufacturing

Manufactuping is key to t`e Welsh the manufacduring andustry in

Manufactuping is key to t`e Welsh the manufacturing industry in Wales.

We have the highest contribution to manufacturing in any of the nations

an` manufacturing in any of the nations

and begions. manufacturing in any of the nations

I hardly heard that on nf manufacturing in any of the nations

I hardly heard that on of the manufacturing in any of the nations

talking. Last week we heard manufacturing in any of the nations

tahkang. Lact week we heard 400 tahkang. Lact week we hdard 400 job

losses at the steelworks, citing losses at t`e steelworkr, citing

difficult global markets and diffacult global markets and the

higher energy cost in the UK diffacult global markets and the

compared to European competitors. To diffacult global markets and the

the people of my time, it diffacult global markets and the

tha `eople of my tame, ht is diffacult global markets and the

the `eople of my tame, it is clear tha `eople of my tame, ht is clear

that Cameron's focus is on those of tha manufacduring

that Cameron's focus is on those of the manufacturing companies. The

that Cameron's focus is on those of people need to be thought about

people need to bd thought about and tackled now. What are you

tackled nnw. hat are ynu doinf to compete in the global markets and

tackled nnw. hat are ynu doinf to what discussions are you having with

what discuscions are you `avinf with the

what discuscions are you `avinf with higher costs that such businesses

ara higher costs that such businesses

are facing here in higher costs that such businesses

ara facinf `ere hn the higher costs that such businesses

are facing here in the UK and higher costs that such businesses

competitors across Europe? higher costs that such businesses

The EK Govebnment needs higher costs that such businesses

The UK Government needs to higher costs that such businesses

The EK Govebnment needs to put higher costs that such businesses

The UK Government needs to put its moneq

The UK Government needs to put its money where its

The UK Government needs to put its moleq where its louth is.

The UK Government needs to put its money where its mouth is. We

The UK Government needs to put its moleq where its louth is. We h`ve

seen ?400 million invested in Tata stael.

seen ?400 million invested in Tata steel. I very much welcome that and

our steel. I very much welcome that and

oup belationship wath steel. I very much welcome that and

our relationship with Tata steel is steel. I very much welcome that and

a good one. The Chancellor of the a good ond. The Bhancellor of the

Exchequer went to Tata and a good ond. The Bhancellor of the

he would do more, `e has a good ond. The Bhancellor of the

nothing since. They will be more job losses in energy intensive

nothing since. They will be more job industries because of the inaction

on t`e industries because of the inaction

on the issue from the Conservatives. industries because of the inaction

They industries because of the inaction

Thay do not industries because of the inaction

They do not care about manufacturing industries because of the inaction

in Wales or elsewhere in the UK, for that matter.

in Wales or elsewhere in the UK, for Wihlaam Gpaham.

Wihlaam Gpa`am. If we can return to your

responsibilities, First Minister. If we can return to your

You will know If we can return to your

Yoq gill know th`t If we can return to your

You will know that many people have If we can return to your

said one of the problems with in`uctry is that

said one of the problems with industry is that we do

said one of the problems with in`uctry is that we do not havd the

industry is that we do not have the employees w`o

industry is that we do not have the employees who have such literacy or

industry is that we do not have the new Morrissey. What are you going to

industry is that we do not have the do about that? -- new Morrissey --

arithmetic. arit`metic.

It is one thing to have arit`metic.

and that arit`metic.

an` that hs impoptant. H recognise and that is important. I recognise

the membep'c point and that is important. I recognise

the member's point in that regard. The UK Government are prepared to do

the member's point in that regard. nothing to help these energy

inpensive nothing to help these energy

intensive industries so we will nothing to help these energy

more of these job nothing to help these energy

Gethin Jenkins. nothing to help these energy

Gephan Jelkans. First Minister, nothing to help these energy

met with Tata steel yesterday in my office and they told me it was

met with Tata steel yesterday in my strategic decision in terms of the

jobs that were to be lost and the strategic decision in terms of the

majority of those jobs would strategic decision in terms of the

from voluntary redundancies. Claably,

from voluntary redundancies. Clearly, we don't want to see

from voluntary redundancies. jobs lost. What discussion would you

have a global level with those managing Tata in India to make sure

that Wales is still in the vanguard in terms of what is happening and in

termc in terms of what is happening and in

tepmc of encurinf in terms of what is happening and in

terms of ensuring that those to in terms of what is happening and in

retrain in terms of what is happening and in

reprain jobs in terms of what is happening and in

retrain jobs for the future. I was speaking to Tata approximately

retrain jobs for the future. two years ago. I will be returning

to India in October two years ago. I will be returning

to India hn Octo`er and I two years ago. I will be returning

to India in October and I intend two years ago. I will be returning

meet with Tata again. I have been two years ago. I will be returning

meeting regularly with the two years ago. I will be returning

meetang regelarly with the managers meeting regularly with the managers

in Eerope, which meeting regularly with the managers

in Europe, which is also important. meeting regularly with the managers

I cannot welcome the fact that so I cannot velcome t`e fabt that so

many jobs will be lost but it is I cannot velcome t`e fabt that so

something to bear in mind that the jobs will be going through voluntary

redundancy. It is obvious that if jobs will be going through voluntary

the investment hadn't taken place, the `osition

the investment hadn't taken place, the position would be much worse

the investment hadn't taken place, Tata. We have to ensure that are

claably Tata. We have to ensure that are

cleably Port al`ot but other `reas Tata. We have to ensure that are

of the company can Tata. We have to ensure that are

You will Tata. We have to ensure that are

Yoq gill know, Tata. We have to ensure that are

You will know, of course, that the Yoq gill jnow, od coursd, that the

Chancellor did announce help for enargy

Chancellor did announce help for energy intensive industries but it

Chancellor did announce help for will come too late for these jobs.

Chancellor did announce help for Cal A

Chancellor did announce help for Can I ask

Chancellor did announce help for Cal A ask what ynur

Chancellor did announce help for Can I ask what your government has

Chancellor did announce help for done in tombs of trying to mitigate

dole in tombs of trying to mitigate the impact of these job losses and

dole in tombs of trying to mitigate where you having discussions with

the EK where you having discussions with

the UK Government on how where you having discussions with

the EK Gotebnment on how these tha EK Gotebnment on how these can

be brought forward to be bbought forwapd to prevent

further job losses? be bbought forwapd to prevent

It is not good to say unfortunately, It ic not good to say unfortun`tely,

nothing has happened. Two years nophing h`s happdned. Tvo years

away, they are sayang. nophing h`s happdned. Tvo years

away, they are saying. It is two yearc

away, they are saying. It is two years away, they are saying it will

be( years away, they are saying it will

be, before any years away, they are saying it will

be( before any hdlp years away, they are saying it will

be, before any help is given to be( before any hdlp is fiven to

energy intensive industries. Wd cannot help those industries with

their cannot help those industries with

theib cost cannot help those industries with

their cost because that is in cannot help those industries with

coltrol od dhe cannot help those industries with

control of the UK Government. They cannot help those industries with

must take action like they haven't cannot help those industries with

so far. We have cannot help those industries with

so far. Wd `ave vorked vith cannot help those industries with

so far. We have worked with Tata in cannot help those industries with

terms of being able to provide them with help and investment in years

gone by that we can't provide them with revenue subsidy on energy

costc. We with revenue subsidy on energy

costs. We need the UK Government with revenue subsidy on energy

take action before 2016 or we will see more jobs being lost in

take action before 2016 or we will Welsh economy.

Wehsh ecolomy. Keith Davies.

Wehsh ecolomy. Thank you, residing

Wehsh ecolomy. Thank you, residhng officer.

Wehsh ecolomy. Thank you, residing officer. For the

Firsd Thank you, residing officer. For the

Fipsd Minhster Thank you, residing officer. For the

First Minister provide an Thank you, residing officer. For the

Fipsd Minhster ppovide an update First Minister provide an update on

tha First Minister provide an update on

the Welsh government policy on the Welsh governlent policy on

renewable energy. the Welsh governlent policy on

The plan was published in March and it describes the progress we have

ma`e in enabling it describes the progress we have

made in enabling investment and it describes the progress we have

driving benefit from driving benefit drom Wels`

businesses and communities. It driving benefit drom Wels`

outlines what we will driving benefit drom Wels`

ouplanes vhat we wall bd doing driving benefit drom Wels`

outlines what we will be doing in driving benefit drom Wels`

coming years to achieve our coiing yearc to `c`ieve our

ambition. ambidion.

I was pleased to hear today that I wac pleased to hear today th`t

there were three sites in Wales that I wac pleased to hear today th`t

had been given permission to develop ha` been fifen pdrmission to ddvelop

marine energy plans by Crown states. ha` been fifen pdrmission to ddvelop

Can I ask you what negotiation ha` been fifen pdrmission to ddvelop

government has had with the government has had with the

govebnment an government has had with the

government in Westminster oN government has had with the

government in Westminster on the gotebnment an Westminster on the

tidal lagoon plans in Swansea Bay? Of course, ge

tidal lagoon plans in Swansea Bay? Of course, we are responsible for

tidal lagoon plans in Swansea Bay? marine consents, and they are

marine colsents, and thdy are responsible for the planning system.

As regards the sea bed, that responsible for the planning system.

As regardr dhe sda bed, that is responsible for the planning system.

As regards the sea bed, that is a mapter

As regards the sea bed, that is a matter for the Crown Estates, but,

As regards the sea bed, that is a of course, the situation would be

much easier if we were in the same of course, the situation would be

position as Scotland were everything of course, the situation would be

was done by the same body, but that isn'd

was done by the same body, but that isn't how things are at present and

was done by the same body, but that Wales is losing out because

was done by the same body, but that that. I recently received an

was done by the same body, but that from a former constituent,

from a former colstituent, a professional engineer

from a former colstituent, a professional enghneer bx

from a former colstituent, a professional engineer by trade, who

was looking to relocate in Wales to espablish a small projects

was looking to relocate in Wales to establish a small projects centred

around hydropower. He, like others, have contacted me in this regard and

around hydropower. He, like others, have told me how difficult it has

bean have told me how difficult it has

been to get a licence from have told me how difficult it has

been to gdt a licence from Natural bean to gdt a licence from Natural

Resources Wales, and what is the bean to gdt a licence from Natural

government doing to remove the govebnment doing to remnve the

barriers that are preventing and discouraging businesses from

espablishhng discouraging businesses from

establishing themselves in this regard? I'm not aware of any

establishing themselves in this barriers, but if he provides me

establishing themselves in this barraers, bet if he provides md with

establishing themselves in this more information,

mope infopmation, A will anvestigate that for Kim. Thank you. The

that for Jim. Th`nc you. The government has failed miserably

that for Jim. Th`nc you. The terms of achieving its target, in

that for Jim. Th`nc you. The terms of producing green energy. One

of the barriers that prevents developmeltc

of the barriers that prevents developments at a local and

of the barriers that prevents community

of the barriers that prevents commenity level, of course,

of the barriers that prevents community level, of course, is the

distbibution community level, of course, is the

distribution network available in community level, of course, is the

Wales, both community level, of course, is the

Wahes, both locallq and community level, of course, is the

Wales, both locally and the larger community level, of course, is the

scale networks, but particularly the community level, of course, is the

local networks which are in such a community level, of course, is the

poor state that you cannot connect community level, of course, is the

into them. What discussion community level, of course, is the

into them, What discusshon has community level, of course, is the

into them. What discussion has the community level, of course, is the

government had with community level, of course, is the

gotebnment `ad wit` the community level, of course, is the

government had with the energy community level, of course, is the

companies to ensure there is a community level, of course, is the

robust network, particularly in rural Wales, but

robust network, particularly in rural ales, but also in

robust network, particularly in areas, where there are possibilities

robust network, particularly in to produce energy at a local level,

an` to produce energy at a local level,

and a community level? As regards the netwopk,

and a community level? As regards the network, that is not an

tha netwopk, that as not an isrue for

tha netwopk, that as not an isrue It is a matter for the National

tha netwopk, that as not an isrue Grid. I don't know whether the

tha netwopk, that as not an isrue member is talking about the

member is talkinf about t`e electricity network, me me the

elacdricity networc, me me the grid, or t`e network of energx

elacdricity networc, me me the grid, or the network of energy producing

elacdricity networc, me me the grid, or generating sites. Of course, may

elacdricity networc, me me the grid, I saq

elacdricity networc, me me the grid, I say that we wish to promote those

I saq that ge wish to promote those energy generating sites,

I saq that ge wish to promote those course, there are schemes that have

ensured that that happens. As ensured thad that `appens. As

regards the electricity network, the regabds the electracity network, the

energy network, it is true to enargy network, ht is true to ray

that many parts of Wales are enargy network, ht is true to ray

a position enargy network, ht is true to ray

a pocitiol do enargy network, ht is true to ray

a position to attract huge investment for factories and so

a position to attract huge because the network is too light,

bup because the network is too light,

but that because the network is too light,

bup that hs a because the network is too light,

but that is a problem he has to discess

but that is a problem he has to discuss with National

but that is a problem he has to discuss wit` ational Grid. We

but that is a problem he has to discuss with National Grid. We move

but that is a problem he has to now to questions for the

but that is a problem he has to now do qudsdions for thd party

now to questions for the party leaders. Leanne Vood.

now to questions for the party leaders. Leanne Wood. The

now to questions for the party Minister issued a mission -- written

statement regarding an investigation into the behaviour of one of his

statement regarding an investigation ministers. The First Minister said,

"havang ministers. The First Minister said,

"having carefully considered the mapter,

"having carefully considered the matter, it's clear to me that the

"having carefully considered the ministerial code was breached. And

he said he would ministerial code was breached. And

he said he gould be taking ministerial code was breached. And

he said he would be taking no he said hd gould be takhng no

further action. Could the First he said hd gould be takhng no

Minister please share with us his Milicter please rhare wit` us his

criteria for which breaches of the minicterial

criteria for which breaches of the ministerial code are stackable

criteria for which breaches of the offences, and which are not.

criteria for which breaches of the the one today was. First Minister,

criteria for which breaches of the had you demonstrated last week

bepter had you demonstrated last week

better judgement, then you would not be finding yourself in this

huiiliatilg be finding yourself in this

humiliating position. It cannot be be finding yourself in this

right for different breaches be finding yourself in this

different parts of the ministerial be finding yourself in this

code to ilcer at be finding yourself in this

code to incur at different times code to ilcer at dafferent timds

with different sanctions. Does the wiph different s`nctionr. Does the

First Minister now concede he was Firsd inhsder nnw concede he vas

wrong to try to cling Firsd inhsder nnw concede he vas

wrong to trq to clang on Firsd inhsder nnw concede he vas

wrong to try to cling on to cling onpo

wrong to try to cling on to cling onto the former minister for natural

onpo the fobmer linister for n`tural resources last week for his

onpo the fobmer linister for n`tural political reasons? No. Back to the

script. I think this is Leanne political reasons? No. Back to the

scpipt. I t`ink thas is Leanne WooD script. I think this is Leanne Wood

's Question Time, not other members'. This is supposed to be a

meibers'. T`is is supposed to be a scrutiny of the First Minister. In

meibers'. T`is is supposed to be a paragraph 68 of

meibers'. T`is is supposed to be a paragraph 60 of the investigative

meibers'. T`is is supposed to be a report, you asked his private

meibers'. T`is is supposed to be a secretary to make the

meibers'. T`is is supposed to be a secretary to makd the Fhrst

meibers'. T`is is supposed to be a Minister's offers unaware, "that

meibers'. T`is is supposed to be a have sought advice on

meibers'. T`is is supposed to be a ministerial code with reference to

this issue. " But he didn't say is this issud. " But `e didn't sax is

that he had been advised not to coiment

that he had been advised not to comment on the matter even in his AM

that he had been advised not to capacity. How many times do you

thinc you capacity. How many times do you

think you are misled capacity. How many times do you

thinc you abe misled by capacity. How many times do you

think you are misled by your former capacity. How many times do you

minister? And are there minicter? And are there any other

instances that you are aware minicter? And are there any other

instances that you are `ware of minicter? And are there any other

are not currently in the public minicter? And are there any other

domain? No is the answer to the minicter? And are there any other

second question. With regards to the minicter? And are there any other

first point, it is correct to say fipsd poilt, it hs correct to ray

that the minister didn't follow the fipsd poilt, it hs correct to ray

advice. However, as fipsd poilt, it hs correct to ray

week, the advice was, in my view, nop

week, the advice was, in my view, not correct and very

week, the advice was, in my view, not correct and tery cattious.

week, the advice was, in my view, not correct and very cautious. He

nop correct and tery cattaous. He received advice, that advice was

nop correct and tery cattaous. He overcautious, as I have said, he

di`n't overcautious, as I have said, he

didn't follow it, that is true, but overcautious, as I have said, he

given the nature overcautious, as I have said, he

giten the nature of the overcautious, as I have said, he

given the nature of the advice, I overcautious, as I have said, he

took the view the advice should overcautious, as I have said, he

have been given to him in that overcautious, as I have said, he

That was my judgement at the time, overcautious, as I have said, he

this is a different issue, and my this is a dafferent isste, and my

advice now this is a dafferent isste, and my

adtice now is this is a dafferent isste, and my

advice now is that the minister adtice now as th`t the linister

could not continue in his role. adtice now as th`t the linister

Andrew RT Davies. Thank you. You've adtice now as th`t the linister

taken eight questions on the subject adtice now as th`t the linister

to`ay, Fipsd adtice now as th`t the linister

today, First Minister, and not one adtice now as th`t the linister

word of adtice now as th`t the linister

wopd of regret adtice now as th`t the linister

word of regret has passed your lips, adtice now as th`t the linister

and you haven't passed on an apology to anyone of the five members

to anyone of the fave mdmbers hn this chamber whom the information

to anyone of the fave mdmbers hn was sought by the Minister. You are

responsible for the actions of a was sought by the Minister. You are

minister, you often stand there and was sought by the Minister. You are

tell us this, so would was sought by the Minister. You are

tell us thic, so would xou was sought by the Minister. You are

tell us this, so would you use this was sought by the Minister. You are

opportunity to extend an apology to was sought by the Minister. You are

the five members of this chamber? was sought by the Minister. You are

Yes, because I think it is was sought by the Minister. You are

that ministers should ask was sought by the Minister. You are

that ministers should ark for confidential information. It was not

that ministers should ark for in regard to all the people

involved. For one in regard to all the people

intolved. For ond of them, the in regard to all the people

information wasn't public domain, in regard to all the people

but for the others he was wrong, he in regard to all the people

should not have been made that request,

should not have been made that should hate been

should not have been made that should have been mentioned in that

should not have been made that way. I'm glad you are able to

should not have been made that way. I'm flad you are able to nffer

should not have been made that that apology to the members in

that apologq to the members in this chamber, but it took nine questions

that apologq to the members in this for

that apologq to the members in this fop qou

that apologq to the members in this for you to do that. I am one of

those named in members. How can you now have confidence in this

in`ifidual now have confidence in this

individual in the way that he has indifidual an thd way that he has

acted in a ministerial role, being abhe

acted in a ministerial role, being able to carry on undertaking

acted in a ministerial role, being role an elected member to

rohe an elected lember to this chamber for the Labour Party as an

rohe an elected lember to this Assembly Member? Do you not think

rohe an elected lember to this there is a

rohe an elected lember to this thare is a complete

rohe an elected lember to this conflict-of-interest in the ability

of that individual conflict-of-interest in the ability

of that indavidu`l to stay here conflict-of-interest in the ability

of that individual to stay here as an elected member given the abuse

of that individual to stay here as an elected membep given the abuse Of

of that individual to stay here as office he had? That's

of that individual to stay here as ofdice he had? That's nnnsense.

of that individual to stay here as office he had? That's nonsense. It

is a breach of office he had? That's nonsense. It

is a breabh of mhnasterial codd. THe office he had? That's nonsense. It

Minister has lost his job as a result of it. It doesn't mean he's

not able to carry on as result of it. It doesn't mean he's

nop able to carry on as Assembly not able to carry on as Assembly

Meiber. not able to carry on as Assembly

Member. I find that answer not able to carry on as Assembly

Member. I fand that ansver deeply Member. I find that answer deeply

offensive because your Minister was Member. I find that answer deeply

trying to seek information to cause Member. I find that answer deeply

political damage to individuals in Member. I find that answer deeply

this chamber. That Member. I find that answer deeply

this cham`eb. Th`t was Member. I find that answer deeply

this chamber. That was the only explanation you can have for why he

explanation you ban havd for why he sought that information. If he

soug`t th`t infopmation. Af he undertook that exercise

soug`t th`t infopmation. Af he undebtook t`at exercise as a

undertook t`at exercise as a minister, what would prevent him

minicter, w`at would prevent hhm seeking to have the same principles

and conducting hhs seeking to have the same principles

and conducting his role as seeking to have the same principles

Assembly Member? As I said, Assembly Lember? As s`id, thhs

goes to the worst excesses to the ol`

goes to the worst excesses to the old Gordon Brown regime and Damian

goes to the worst excesses to the McBride at Westminster. We are

goes to the worst excesses to the supposed to have a different way of

doing politics here supposed to have a different way of

order! supposed to have a different way of

or`eb! With the greatest ordeb! With the freatest respect,

you are the first to say minister ordeb! With the freatest respect,

who exercise judgement in keeping in ordeb! With the freatest respect,

his post last week ordeb! With the freatest respect,

his `ost lact week and ordeb! With the freatest respect,

his post last week and now you are expecting us to take the

expecting uc to tace thd assurances that you've given this week as

expecting uc to tace thd assurances correct. Can we, therefore, have an

expecting uc to tace thd assurances independent enquiry to look at the

workangs independent enquiry to look at the

workings of independent enquiry to look at the

wopkangs nf govepnment ro that the workings of government so that the

people of Wales and, importantly, organisations, individuals

people of Wales and, importantly, organisations, ildavidu`ls and

people of Wales and, importantly, polidicials can

people of Wales and, importantly, politicians can have assurances that

this type of practices is not common politicians can have assurances that

practice in the Welsh pracdice hn the Velsh gnvernment

that you lead? It is not common pracdice hn the Velsh gnvernment

practice given the fact pracdice hn the Velsh gnvernment

pracdice fifen the fact t`e private pracdice hn the Velsh gnvernment

office did its job and I took the pracdice hn the Velsh gnvernment

action that I did. And pracdice hn the Velsh gnvernment

action th`t I did. And proactively pracdice hn the Velsh gnvernment

publish the e-mail which was the pracdice hn the Velsh gnvernment

right thing pracdice hn the Velsh gnvernment

righd thilg to do pracdice hn the Velsh gnvernment

right thing to do because righd thilg to dn becaure I thhnk

it's important that where events righd thilg to dn becaure I thhnk

like this happen, members are aware of what is going on and the action

has been taken as a result. I see no has been taken ar a restlt. I ree no

complaint. He is on dodgy has been taken ar a restlt. I ree no

coiplaint, He is on dodgy ground! complaint. He is on dodgy ground!

Wiph complaint. He is on dodgy ground!

With Andy Coulson. complaint. He is on dodgy ground!

With Andy Coulsol. Nobody complaint. He is on dodgy ground!

With Andy Coulson. Nobody is in jail. Unlike his own party! That is

soiedhing jail. Unlike his own party! That is

something he should reflect jail. Unlike his own party! That is

soiedhing he should reflect on. He's jail. Unlike his own party! That is

starting to shout. Let me put soiedhing

starting to shout. Let me put something to him. He talks

starting to shout. Let me put apology. He's had an apology, and

apology. He's had an apnlogy, `nd it was due. Vhere was

apology. He's had an apnlogy, `nd it was due. Where was he last

apology. He's had an apnlogy, `nd it was due. Vhere was he last week

apology. He's had an apnlogy, `nd it was due. Where was he last week when

apology. He's had an apnlogy, `nd it we all waited to meet the Prince of

Wahec? He we all waited to meet the Prince of

Wales? He didn't turn we all waited to meet the Prince of

Wahec? He dadn't turn up we all waited to meet the Prince of

Wales? He didn't turn up and Walec? He dadn't turn up and dhdn't

give an explanation. That is gite an explanation. Th`t is

something he needs to looks plain to tha

something he needs to looks plain to the people of Wales. My apology

something he needs to looks plain to extended to the organisers. I was

ilh extended to the organisers. I was

ill on Thtrcday. extended to the organisers. I was

ill on Thursday. I extended to the organisers. I was

with a stroke that extended to the organisers. I was

with a stpoce th`t my extended to the organisers. I was

with a stroke that my mother-in-law with a stpoce th`t my mnt`er-in-law

had just had the night before, First with a stpoce th`t my mnt`er-in-law

Minister. You might well want to consider your position. You once

Minister. You might well want to accused me before when my father

Minister. You might well want to died in the Princess of

diad in the Prinbess of Wales Hospital. Even now accused

diad in the Prinbess of Wales Hospatal. Efen now accured me `

Hospital. Even now accused me a second time and I won't stand for

second time and H won't stand for it a third time. I've no idea what he's

a third time. I'te no idea what he's talking about in terms of the first

a third time. I'te no idea what he's occasion. Order, order! What I can

say to him... I'm sorry, First Minicter.

say to him... I'm sorry, First Minister. Order! I cannot hear what

say to him... I'm sorry, First you're saying. And I think this

say to him... I'm sorry, First very serious discussion, I want no

say to him... I'm sorry, First more shouting from the side.

say to him... I'm sorry, First Minister, carry on. I was

say to him... I'm sorry, First Minicter, carry on. I was not

say to him... I'm sorry, First Minister, carry on. I was not told.

say to him... I'm sorry, First If I had been, I would not have

say to him... I'm sorry, First raised it, so, therefore, I retract

tha raised it, so, therefore, I retract

the comment. I apologise for raised it, so, therefore, I retract

explanation was given. I understand explanation was fiven. H understand

the situation now. I explanation was fiven. H understand

tha cituation now. I extend explanation was fiven. H understand

the situation now. I extend my condolences to the Leader of the

the situation now. I extend my Opposition. And I understand

the situation now. I extend my that was the case. Leader of

the situation now. I extend my Wehs` Libdral

the situation now. I extend my Welsh Liberal Democrats.

the situation now. I extend my Wehs` Libdral Democrats. Cirsty

Welsh Liberal Democrats. Kirsty Wihlaams.

Welsh Liberal Democrats. Kirsty Williams. First Minister,

Welsh Liberal Democrats. Kirsty Williams. Farst Minister, apart

Williams. First Minister, apart from the situation which we will become

tha cituation whhc` we vill become aware of over the

tha cituation whhc` we vill become aware of nver the last two

tha cituation whhc` we vill become aware of over the last two weeks, is

tha cituation whhc` we vill become this the first time you have had

tha cituation whhc` we vill become cause to deal with inappropriate

caqse to deal with inappropriate behaviour by Alun Davies, and have

behafiour bq lul Davies, and have you had previously

you had ppefiously complaants from civil servants

you had ppefiously complaants from civil sertants op

you had ppefiously complaants from civil servants or others about the

you had ppefiously complaants from behaviour of

you had ppefiously complaants from behafiour of that

you had ppefiously complaants from behaviour of that member that have

bean broufhd behaviour of that member that have

been brought to your attention? If so(

been brought to your attention? If so, what did you do about it? Don't

so( ghat did you do about it? Don't recall complaints made by civil

so( ghat did you do about it? Don't servants about the Minister, no. I

so( ghat did you do about it? Don't don't know what she means by

inap`ropriade don't know what she means by

inappropriate behaviour. Order, inappropriade behaviour. Order,

order. inappropriade behaviour. Order,

or`er. Kipsty inappropriade behaviour. Order,

order. Kirsty Williams. First inappropriade behaviour. Order,

Minister. You have inappropriade behaviour. Order,

Milister. You hate deemed inappropriade behaviour. Order,

behaviour of Alun inappropriade behaviour. Order,

behaviour of lun Davies inappropriade behaviour. Order,

behaviour of Alun Davies today as to be unbecoming of a minister in your

behaviour of Alun Davies today as to government

behaviour of Alun Davies today as to gotebnment and

behaviour of Alun Davies today as to government and I agree with you. And

behaviour of Alun Davies today as to I thank ynu for xour apology.

behaviour of Alun Davies today as to I thank you for your apology. But,

surely, if his behaviour surely, if his bdhaviour as

unbecoming of a minister, it is also surely, if his bdhaviour as

unbecoming of a member of Welsh unbecominf of a lember nf Welsh

Labour. Will you be withdrawing the whip? o.

Labour. Will you be withdrawing the whip? No. Since your judgement

Labour. Will you be withdrawing the these

Labour. Will you be withdrawing the thase issuec

Labour. Will you be withdrawing the these issues has been so very

flawed, surely now is the time to acce`t

flawed, surely now is the time to accept that we

flawed, surely now is the time to acce`t that we need

flawed, surely now is the time to accept that we need independent

pohicing accept that we need independent

policing of the ministerial code, accept that we need independent

and for the sake of this chamber, for the sake of this

and for the sake of this chamber, for the sake of the

and for the sake of this chamber, Welsh politics, will you think

and for the sake of this chamber, again? No, because the system

worked. If it hadn't, the point again? No, because the system

wopked. Id at hadn't, the point is again? No, because the system

the leader of the Liberal Democrats tha leadep of thd Liberal Democrats

makes would be a tha leadep of thd Liberal Democrats

makec would be a valid tha leadep of thd Liberal Democrats

makes would be a valid one, but the tha leadep of thd Liberal Democrats

private office did what it should tha leadep of thd Liberal Democrats

do, I was tha leadep of thd Liberal Democrats

do( A was made tha leadep of thd Liberal Democrats

do, I was made aware, I took the tha leadep of thd Liberal Democrats

action I did, and I published tha leadep of thd Liberal Democrats

correspondence so that members were coprespondence sn that lembers were

aware of what had happened. I have ha`

aware of what had happened. I have had apologies from

aware of what had happened. I have ha` apologies from the

aware of what had happened. I have had apologies from the other

leader. We moved question leader. Wd moved question four. Paul

Davies. Will the First Minister leader. Wd moved question four. Paul

the statement on what was government leader. Wd moved question four. Paul

is doing to improve cancer services in West W`les?

is doing to improve cancer services in West Wales? Our plans to

is doing to improve cancer services cancer services across Wales

is doing to improve cancer services calcer sepvaces across Wales are set

cancer services across Wales are set out in the cancer delivery plan.

cancer services across Wales are set second annual report demonstrates

tha second annual report demonstrates

the good progress we're second annual report demonstrates

tha good progresr we're making, second annual report demonstrates

highlighting good practice, like the second annual report demonstrates

development 1-stop clinics to speed second annual report demonstrates

up cancer waiting times. First Minister, I recently met with the

up cancer waiting times. First local branch of prostate Cymru in

up cancer waiting times. First Pembrokeshire, they are

up cancer waiting times. First raising awareness among the public

up cancer waiting times. First of this condition. Prostate cancer

is the most prevalent cancer amongst men in

is the most prevalent cancer amongst mel in Walec. And screening

is the most prevalent cancer amongst men in Wales. And screening for

is the most prevalent cancer amongst prostate cancer doesn't happen

is the most prevalent cancer amongst prosdate bancer doesn't happen as a

matter of course, as it does for cohon

matter of course, as it does for colon cancer, for people who have

cohon canbeb, fop people who h`ve reached the age of 60. Bearing in

mind prostate cancer is the most reached the age of 60. Bearing in

prevalent cancer among much reached the age of 60. Bearing in

pravalent cancer among luch -- prevalent cancer among luch -- among

men in Wales, can he tell us whether prevalent cancer among luch -- among

the Welsh government would prevalent cancer among luch -- among

willing to look prevalent cancer among luch -- among

willang to look at this prevalent cancer among luch -- among

willing to look at this important wihlang to look `t this important

issue and to consider introducing wihlang to look `t this important

guidance hn wihlang to look `t this important

guidance in order to ensure wihlang to look `t this important

compulsory screening, which I am coipelsory ccreeling, which I `m

sure would coipelsory ccreeling, which I `m

supe would save lives coipelsory ccreeling, which I `m

sure would save lives in the longer coipelsory ccreeling, which I `m

term? There is a UK coipelsory ccreeling, which I `m

committee that gives guidelines to tha

committee that gives guidelines to the UK on prostate cancer and that

the EK on pbostate cancer and that doesn't state th`t mandatory

the EK on pbostate cancer and that screening should take place at

the EK on pbostate cancer and that present. If more

present. Hf more evidenbe comes to the fore, we will reconsider. Thank

you, presiding officer. Can I screen yoq, preshdang odfacer. Can I rcreen

stressed the importance of cancer services across Wales and

inpegration? services across Wales and

integration? Can they use the inpegration? an t`ey ure the

expertise of the inpegration? an t`ey ure the

expebtise of the key inpegration? an t`ey ure the

expertise of the key centres? inpegration? an t`ey ure the

It is inevitable that where there It ic inetidable t`at where thdre

are major tertiary centres that the hospitals will work with those

centres to ensure that the service centbes to ensure that the service

is as strong as it can be. That does centbes to ensure that the service

not mean that all these centbes to ensure that the service

should be provided in the centre.

First Minister, a constituent came to see me yesterdaq

First Minister, a constituent came to see me yesterday and the

gentleman was suffering with to see me yesterday and the

geltleman was sudfering witH cancer. to see me yesterday and the

The consultant has suggested treatment with two medications for

traadment wath two medications for that constituent but it has been

traadment wath two medications for turned down by the local

traadment wath two medications for board. Your government is presently

conseltinf board. Your government is presently

consulting on retaining board. Your government is presently

panels with every health board board. Your government is presently

take decisions on drugs. How can you board. Your government is presently

justafy condinuing board. Your government is presently

justify continuing with justify condinuilg with a regime

that would allow different panels indifferent

that would allow different panels in`ifferelt health

that would allow different panels indifferent health boards to

that would allow different panels in`ifferelt health boards to take

indifferent health boards to take different decisions on cancer drugs

indifferent health boards to take and other drugs?

an` other dbugs? This is something that we are

This is snmethinf that ve are considering at present. We are

This is snmethinf that ve are persuaded about having a

This is snmethinf that ve are Drugs Fund or April

This is snmethinf that ve are Drqgs Fund or Appil that

This is snmethinf that ve are Drugs Fund or April that we are --

or a pool but we are looking at more consistency.

Ara qou ar consistency.

Are you as sick as I am with David consistency.

Cameron misleadingly talking down Caiebon mhsleadilgly talkang dnwn

our health services? Thanks to Welsh Caiebon mhsleadilgly talkang dnwn

Labour government investment, more Caiebon mhsleadilgly talkang dnwn

cancer treatment is inshde Caiebon mhsleadilgly talkang dnwn

cancer treatment is inside the cancer treadment is inshde the

target times in Wales and England. Survaval

target times in Wales and England. Survival rates are

target times in Wales and England. Survaval pates are up.

Supvaval pades ape up. Patient satisfaction is up and we have the

saticfaction is tp and ve have the only fully

onhy fully digital breart screening service in Britain. In West Wales,

servace il Britahn. n Vest Wales, cancer services at Withybush are

servace il Britahn. n Vest Wales, be maintained and the health board

is looking at recruiting an extra oncologist and delivering new mobile

is looking at recruiting an extra cancer services. Will you

calcer sepvaces. Wall ynu discuss with the health minister what help

tha gorst with the health minister what help

the worst government can offer to Hywel Dda Health Board to

the worst government can offer to deliver those

the worst government can offer to There is much to be proud about

the worst government can offer to There is luch to be proud aBout in

the worst government can offer to the Welsh NHS and what I can say in

tha Welsh N@S and what H can s`y in terms of Withybush, which is in

tha Welsh N@S and what H can s`y in tepms of Vidhyburh, which is in the

tha Welsh N@S and what H can s`y in member's constituency, is that

meiber's bonstituency, hs that work is ongoing to design

meiber's bonstituency, hs that work chemotherapy unit on site, which

wihl chemotherapy unit on site, which

will be important for those who need tha

will be important for those who need the cervice

will be important for those who need the service in future.

will be important for those who need Thanc you,

will be important for those who need Thank you, presiding officer. Will

he make a statement Thank you, presiding officer. Will

he make a statemdnt on he make a statement on planning

righds he make a statement on planning

rights in relation to energy? he make a statement on planning

The rush government's priority is to increase low carbon

The rush government's priority is to production from renewable sources.

The rush government's priority is to We are committed to

The rush government's priority is to We abe commatted to facilatating

The rush government's priority is to We are committed to facilitating the

installation of microgeneration eqqi`ment

installation of microgeneration equipment in Wales. We have taken

stapc equipment in Wales. We have taken

steps to get planning equipment in Wales. We have taken

steps to fed plalning pdrmission steps to get planning permission for

microscale benewable steps to get planning permission for

Wales has no powers in terms of licensing for unconventional gas

Wales has no powers in terms of there are those who believe that the

planning pights that there are those who believe that the

planning rights that we have could possibly,

planning rights that we have could possably, if

planning rights that we have could possibly, if the government wished,

planning rights that we have could more or less lead to a moratorium in

planning rights that we have could this area. Are you

planning rights that we have could this area, Are ynu with

planning rights that we have could this area. Are you with the opinion

planning rights that we have could that Wales has the necessary

planning pogers that Wales has the necessary

planning powers that planning pogers that would allow it

to put a moratorium on planning pogers that would allow it

developments? planning pogers that would allow it

Though. It is extremely important Though. It as extremely important

that we have a planning system in Though. It as extremely important

Wales that Though. It as extremely important

Wahec that gives us Though. It as extremely important

Wales that gives us a level in Wahec that gives us a level in Wales

that we should have over Wahec that gives us a level in Wales

resources. That Wahec that gives us a level in Wales

resoerces, That is Wahec that gives us a level in Wales

resources. That is not the case Wahec that gives us a level in Wales

present. I have seen what the Silk Wahec that gives us a level in Wales

Commission has recommended Wahec that gives us a level in Wales

Commassiol has recommended for Commission has recommended for the

fupube. Commission has recommended for the

Will the First Minister outline which specific paragraphs of the

Minicterial which specific paragraphs of the

Ministerial Code he considers were which specific paragraphs of the

breached by the? Sorry, have I which specific paragraphs of the

arisen on the wrong question? Yes.

I apologise. In that Yes.

I apologise. n that care, Yes.

I apologise. In that case, I was Yes.

going to ask my question Yes.

Russell George. Yes.

Will the Minister make a statement Yes.

on the trunk road network? Yes.

We continue our improvements Yes.

We continue our hmprovements abross We continte our hmprovements abross

all We continte our hmprovements abross

alh `arts of We continte our hmprovements abross

all parts of Wales. We continte our hmprovements abross

A stretch of the A near We continte our hmprovements abross

Newtown has been frustrating drivers Newtown h`s been frustratang drivers

and passengers. It was finally finished last week, much to the

relief of everyole finished last week, much to the

relief of everyone who uses rehief of eferyole who tses thd

road. hel rehief of eferyole who tses thd

road. When I raised the issue of the work with ministers at the

road. When I raised the issue of the wopk with ministers at the beginning

road. When I raised the issue of the of June, response from

road. When I raised the issue of the Minister was

road. When I raised the issue of the Minicter vac that the

road. When I raised the issue of the Milister vas that the sbhedule

road. When I raised the issue of the Minister was that the schedule of

work had fallen behind you to a problem with the contractors.

problem wit` the contrabtors. The Minister for transport told me in

Febreary Minister for transport told me in

February that these Minister for transport told me in

February that thdse works Minister for transport told me in

February that these works were a Minister for transport told me in

priority dob Minister for transport told me in

priority for the Welsh government. I don'd

priority for the Welsh government. I don't believe she or I expected it

to take place. What with the problems vidh

to take place. What with the problems with the contractors?

to take place. What with the Residents are asking me and want to

to take place. What with the know as m`nq

to take place. What with the know as many days when there is

to take place. What with the work takilg place.

to take place. What with the The traffic signals were removed

to take place. What with the last week and the road was opened.

to take place. What with the The works fell behind schedule due

to take place. What with the to ground problems with the

to take place. What with the contractor. I

to take place. What with the coltractop. I am aware

to take place. What with the contractor. I am aware that there

was an article that suggested we contractor. I am aware that there

were let down by the contractor. wepe let dogn by t`e contractor.

That is not the case but there were wepe let dogn by t`e contractor.

issues with the ground that had to be remedied before work could go

issues with the ground that had to ahead.

ahaad. Kirsty Williams.

ahaad. Kipsdy Willaams. T`e good

ahaad. Kirsty Williams. The good news is

that the a 40 at Crickhowell is free that the ` $0 at Crickhnwell is free

of roadworks for the first time in of roadwopkc for t`e first timd in

many months. My constituents of roadwopkc for t`e first timd in

commute on the Afor 70 are now contactinf

commute on the Afor 70 are now contacting me with delays in

commute on the Afor 70 are now Merthyr. I

commute on the Afor 70 are now Mert`yr. I am

commute on the Afor 70 are now Merthyr. I am sure the new

commute on the Afor 70 are now Mert`yr. I am supe the new retail

Merthyr. I am sure the new retail unit will be welcomed by everybody

when it is unit will be welcomed by everybody

whan it is opened but there unit will be welcomed by everybody

significant cues in the morning unit will be welcomed by everybody

signaficant cues in the morning and unit will be welcomed by everybody

evening for people travelling south unit will be welcomed by everybody

and north on the road. When will the an` north on the road. Vhen will the

work be completed? an` north on the road. Vhen will the

I can't give a date as to when I can't ghve a d`te as to when that

work will be completed. I will write I can't ghve a d`te as to when that

to t`e I can't ghve a d`te as to when that

to the member with further updates to t`e member with further upd`tes

as to when and the schedule. Quasdion

as to when and the schedule. Question seven, Antoinette Sandbach.

as to when and the schedule. Minister, can you answer the

as to when and the schedule. question on the

as to when and the schedule. quasdion nn the paper

as to when and the schedule. question on the paper that was asked

quasdion nn the paper that was asked earlier

quasdion nn the paper that was asked earlaer ol?

quasdion nn the paper that was asked I think I have dealt with this in

previous exchanges. prevaous dxchangds.

Actually, First Minister, you haven't.

Actually, First Minister, you haten't. Xoe haven't

Actually, First Minister, you haven't. You haven't possess

Actually, First Minister, you haten't. Xoe haven't possess to

haven't. You haven't possess to fighd which paragraphs

haven't. You haven't possess to fight which paragraphs of the

haven't. You haven't possess to you say were breached and you

haven't. You haven't possess to happy to ignore. You have talked

aboud happy to ignore. You have talked

about the precautionary nature of happy to ignore. You have talked

the advice but in happy to ignore. You have talked

the advice but il paragraph happy to ignore. You have talked

the advice but in paragraph 38 happy to ignore. You have talked

the advice but il paragraph 38 of the Jones report, it said, if

followed, id the Jones report, it said, if

followed, it would protect the integrity of the recess in a

followed, it would protect the controversial case.

coltroversial care. herefore, clearly, do you accept that by

saying it was so precautionary clearly, do you accept that by

the Minister didn't need to follow the Ministeb didl't need to follow

it, follow the advice provided the Ministeb didl't need to follow

him on the 28th of March that he the Ministeb didl't need to follow

should not comment on the the Ministeb didl't need to follow

even in hhs the Ministeb didl't need to follow

even in his AM capacity, that were prepared to compromise the integrity

even in his AM capacity, that were the process in a

case? case?

I don't accept case?

I `on't abcept that case?

I don't accept that the issue case?

been compromised in any way. It is case?

open to ministers to represent case?

constituents with case?

guidelines. I found the advice went case?

beyond what was already in case?

Ministerial Code but nevertheless, anot`er

Ministerial Code but nevertheless, another issue has come to light

another issee har come to light this week to my knowledge and I have

another issee har come to light this taken the appropriate

taken the a`proppiate abtaon. Thank you, presiding officer. Since

taken the a`proppiate abtaon. the publication of that report last

taken the a`proppiate abtaon. week, the events today show that it

taken the a`proppiate abtaon. was a habit

taken the a`proppiate abtaon. was a habht of the remaining

taken the a`proppiate abtaon. Minister to put Russia on officials

fohlowing Minister to put Russia on officials

following sending e-mails, which Minister to put Russia on officials

throws light on the Derek Jones Minister to put Russia on officials

report and the content of those e-iaals.

report and the content of those I asked you whether you still has

report and the content of those confidence in your Minister. We now

know that six hours before I ask confidence in your Minister. We now

that question he had sent an e-mail asking for personal information

aboud fivd members in asking for personal information

about five members in this asking for personal information

When was your office of aware of asking for personal information

e-mail asking for personal information

e-maal selt asking for personal information

e-mail sent by Aled Davies and when asking for personal information

did you come to a decision that you asking for personal information

no longer had confidence asking for personal information

no longer had colfadence in asking for personal information

no longer had confidence in him? no longer had colfadence an him?

Well, no longer had colfadence an him?

Wehl, no longer had colfadence an him?

Well, I knew about the no longer had colfadence an him?

Wehl, I kleg about the e-mail on Well, I knew about the e-mail on

Friday morning, when Well, I knew about the e-mail on

Friday mornang, when I was Well, I knew about the e-mail on

Friday morning, when I was running Well, I knew about the e-mail on

from the permanent Secretary's office. I saw the

from the permanent Secretary's office. I saw thd e-mail

from the permanent Secretary's office. I saw the e-mail yesterday.

from the permanent Secretary's I wanted to hear what the Minister

I wanted to hear w`at the Minister had to say about it this morning and

had do sax about it this morning and then I took the decision.

Minicter, then I took the decision.

Minister, when then I took the decision.

Minicter, w`en ynu heard from the then I took the decision.

former minister, did he give an then I took the decision.

explanation as to what he intended to do with the information that he

to do with dhe ilformation that he requested on those five members?

to do with dhe ilformation that he I'm not going to go into

to do with dhe ilformation that he I'i not gning to go into detail

to do with dhe ilformation that he I'm not going to go into detail in

terms of the conversation but my I'm not going to go into detail in

view was that the impression was given that the

view was that the impression was requested in orddr

view was that the impression was requested in order for that

information to be used in the cause infobmation to bd used hn the bause

of questions. I thought that was infobmation to bd used hn the bause

of questionc. I thought t`at was the infobmation to bd used hn the bause

view that infobmation to bd used hn the bause

viaw that most mdmbers vould infobmation to bd used hn the bause

view that most members would take. infobmation to bd used hn the bause

Therefore id was no infobmation to bd used hn the bause

Therefore it was no longer tenable for

Therefore it was no longer tenable fop dhe

Therefore it was no longer tenable for the Minister to remain in post.

Well for the Minister to remain in post.

Wehl the for the Minister to remain in post.

Well the First Minister make a Wehl the Fibst Minaster make a

statement on powers to make Wehl the Fibst Minaster make a

compulsory purchases compelsory `urch`ses in Wales?

They are an important tool for bo`ies

They are an important tool for bodies to use and the means of

assembling bodies to use and the means of

assemblinf the land needed bodies to use and the means of

assembling the land needed to bodies to use and the means of

dehifer improvements in Wales. bodies to use and the means of

I would like to thank the First Minister. Ad a pnlacy

I would like to thank the First Minister. At a policy forum on

I would like to thank the First infrastructure last week, Professor

I would like to thank the First Brian Morgan expressed some concern

Brian organ exppessed rome concern about the Welsh

Brian organ exppessed rome concern aboud the Welsh fovernment's reduced

Brian organ exppessed rome concern capacity to exercise compulsory

purc`ases capacity to exercise compulsory

purchases because of the consequence of the abolition of the

purchases because of the consequence authority for Wales back in 1999. He

ciped authority for Wales back in 1999. He

cited that is an impediment for regressing session regeneration

cited that is an impediment for projects. Do you share any

projects. Do you s`are `nq of his concern in this regard

projects. Do you s`are `nq of his concern il dhis pegard is

projects. Do you s`are `nq of his concern in this regard is Mac and

wihl concern in this regard is Mac and

will you undertake to will you tndertaje to consider

reviewing the frequency with which Wehs`

reviewing the frequency with which Wels` govdrnment

reviewing the frequency with which compulsory purchase to advance

regeneration? I don't think that is the

regeneration? I don't think th`t is the correct

regeneration? view. CPO is available to

view. PO ic avahlable to us through the WDA act. That is specifically in

view. PO ic avahlable to us through relation to enviponmental

relation to environmental improvemelt so I don't see

relation to environmental improvement so I don't see that the

relation to environmental situation has changed, given the

relation to environmental powers we have always had.

Byron Davies. powers we have always had.

First Minister, powers we have always had.

Firsd Minister, leading powers we have always had.

Firsd inhsder, leading on powers we have always had.

First Minister, leading on from that, I have been working with

First Minister, leading on from organisations and scrutinising the

organisations and scrutinasing the limitation of the

organisations and scrutinasing the liiidatiol of thd activd travel

limitation of the active travel though. There

limitation of the active travel though. Thebe are

limitation of the active travel though. There are concerns that the

limitation of the active travel current framework for compulsory

purchase current framework for compulsory

purc`ase nrders current framework for compulsory

purchase orders as a last resort current framework for compulsory

nop cit well current framework for compulsory