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That afternoon and welcome to the first programme since the summer

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break. Assembly Members are backing Cardiff paper the first session and

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First Minister's Questions since July. We can expect questions on the

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GP numbers, the steel industry and the proposed South Wales metro as

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well. You can follow all the latest on Welsh politics by our Twitter

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feed. Business in the chamber is already under way so let's take a

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look at today's questions to the First Minister. Order and I call the

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National Assembly to order and the first item that afternoon is

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questions to the First Minister. Neil Hamilton. Will the First

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Minister provide an update on the Welsh Government is doing to assist

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with the GP crisis in Mid and West Wales. We have increased investment

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through our primary care plan. We are working closely with health

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boards who are responsible for providing services for their

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populations and ensuring continuity of high-quality care when an

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independent general practice hands back its business contract. I am

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grateful for that reply but fine words and no parsnips. For the

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people in to leave Orellana if they would get any consolation from what

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he says. A surgery in Porthmadog which serves 7500 people recently

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announced they would only see those who are acutely unwell. In Blaenau

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Ffestiniog the practice of four doctors has been reduced to one and

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there is nobody available. Over half the GP 's end to evil are over 55.

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Visit not time for the government to get its act together and make a

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health service that for the people of Wales. These are independent

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contractors and they are entitled to seek help from the local health

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boards and where those contractors have decided not provide that

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service health boards have provided an equally good if not better

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service. We know there are difficulties in recruiting GPs. It

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is not an issue confined to Wales. We are looking to launch a GP

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recruitment campaign lacks month in order to make sure that we can once

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again betray Wales as a good place to be a doctor and of course to

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provide the flexibility the profession now needs. Joyce Watson.

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I was also busy meeting health forums in the summer and I did ask a

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question last July where you quite clearly answered me that you are

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bringing forward proposals for a national and an international

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campaign to market Wales and the NHS as an attractive place to work. That

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work would include recruitment and training and retention of GPs. Could

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I ask you therefore First Minister whether there is progress that has

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been taken forward through the summer. Next month we will be

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launching an international marketing campaign to highlight Wales as a

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great place to train, work and live and the secretary will be outlining

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the campaign in his statement next week. It will be a step change in

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the way we market Wales to doctors. For the communities in Porthmadog,

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Newtown, Cardigan, Tenby, Pembroke Dock, all of those communities that

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have to wait a fortnight these days for an appointment with a GP, they

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do feel there is a crisis and they feel there is a problem with

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recruitment and a shortage of GPs willing to stay in that area. There

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are particular problems in terms of those who want to become partners in

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surgeries. What in addition can the government to to recruit GPs but

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also what is the future of the private surgery as part of the

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health service for primary care? When you mention private surgeries

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are you talking about the independent contractors? That of

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course is the current model and for some it will be the future model. I

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don't think it is the sole model you can have because more and more GPs

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wish to have the opportunity to move from one practice to another. We are

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working with the BMA and the Royal College in order to ensure that the

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campaign we launched next month is effective and of course we expect

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the health boards to work with GPs because when problems have been

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highlighted we must ensure that doctors can in as locums and that

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needs to happen temporarily to sustain the future of surgeries. The

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crux of the matter is to ensure that more doctors wish to work in Wales.

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Given that we now have three health boards that have targeted

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intervention and on health board in special measures this drive to

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recruit GPs has to talk about recruiting the whole family because

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otherwise these GPs will not want to work in areas where they feel it is

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not going to be substantial back-up medically for them in their

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practices. We need to make sure that these GPs who want to come to Wales

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and you are right it is a great place to live and work, but they

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will want to bring their families and part is and their children and

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they all want good schools and good jobs that their partners can also

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undertake. It's not just about one person we are recruiting, it's an

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entire family and if we can get that family over the border we can keep

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them but we have to give them that whole package. When you look at this

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recruitment programme will you be that in mind and bear in mind that

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all these GP practices will be looking to their hospitals and the

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local NHS for the service they need to back-up their support for their

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patients and with four out of eight in some kind of trouble it's not

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good news. We don't have a funding crisis as England does all the

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doctors strike but she does make an important point. It is absolutely

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right that you have to target the family. For many years GPs would

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come to an area and quite often they had a spouse who was not working but

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that is no longer the case. We have to provide opportunities for a

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partner and a good environment for children. That will be part of the

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campaign we are launching October. Bethan Jenkins. Will the First

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Minister tell us what support the government is giving to the steel

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industry in Wales? Members were sent a full update yesterday. No progress

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has yet been made with the UK Government in terms of the issues of

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energy and pensions. In that letter from the minister it says that

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progress is being made on a range of projects which will allow the Welsh

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plans to become more capable of withstanding the global competition

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including an improvement project for Port Talbot as well as the research

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and develop the project. These are Plaid Cymru ideas that you have

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taken on board. I wonder whether you would like to give us information on

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the development of the power plant and also the research and

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development activities at Swansea University which we proposed to you

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and you have kindly taken on board. The principle of keeping our steel

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industry was not wholly a Plaid Cymru idea. We have been discussing

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these plans fears. What I can say, negotiations are ongoing but the

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progress have been made. We are seeking to provide a platform for

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the long-term future of our steel industry. Energy and pensions are

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still not resolved at the UK Government level. David Rees. We are

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seeing Welsh Government support for the steel industry through those

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projects and I welcome that but we have seen over the summer financial

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improvements in the steel industry at Port Talbot where we saw losses

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being discussed and now there are profits. 5 million in July. We are

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seeing progress in steel-making in Wales. When you met the Prime

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Minister you talked about the steel and you have party mentioned the

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issue of the UK Government was my position. Kitchen became they would

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be working to improve the situation with the pensions fund and are they

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making any movements towards the energy costs because they the big

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issues that any perspective by had concerns about. The previous Prime

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Minister was proactive in this regard. We have not heard as much

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from the current government. They have been initial conversations and

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they have not been negative. But in the next few weeks we need to see

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some progress. We have correspondence going back five years

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with the government on energy prices for all our energy industries. We

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cannot afford to be seen as an expensive place to manage patch.

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Suzy Davies. Following representation by the Prime Minister

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Theresa May the GE 20 members set up a forum to tackle overcapacity and

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production in the global steel market so the UK is moving ahead and

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getting world leaders to confront the central question as well as

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dealing with the issues they have already been acting on. I accept the

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Welsh Government has a more limited role. But it can make it practical

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difference in my region. Pulling out of a deal that could have saved 200

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jobs as part of the steel industry supply chain was not helpful. Can

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you tell us what you are doing to assist stability in the Welsh steel

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supply chain? More than anything else what we are doing is assisting

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Tata steel and looking at ways they can save money. We are seeing what

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we can do in terms of skills and training and providing the support

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they need in order to be sustainable in the longer term. There are issues

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regarding the businesses which had feared issues with tartar steel

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which led to the consequences that the members mentioned but we are

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confident we can put together a good package in terms of what we can

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offer but we now need to see progress on two major issues.

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Caroline Jones. Welsh steel and other energy intensive industries

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are suffering as a result of EU imposed carbon reduction policies

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which have resulted in a higher energy bill. In order to secure the

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future of Welsh steel we have to drop EU legislation which pushes up

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our energy costs. Do you agree with me that the best support the Welsh

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Government can give the Welsh steel industry is to press the UK

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Government to complete the Brexit process as soon as possible? The

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biggest threat to the steel industry 's tariffs. We export 30% of the

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steel we produce and anything that increases the price of that steel

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would be helpful. When she talks about carbon reduction she talks

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about more emissions so more coming out of the steelworks than before.

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There is another point here. If you look at other countries in the EU

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with energy prices are lower than ours. If you look at Germany 20%

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lower. If you look at Spain 37% lower. It is nothing to do with the

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EU, it's to do with EE UK's alleged energy markets. It is not in EU

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issue. The energy industry is not transparent enough. The UK is an

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expensive place to do business because of this energy costs. The UK

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is more expensive than many of our competitive countries and that has

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to change. It's nothing to do with emissions it's to do with the way

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the market operates in the UK. As you are aware the plants in Newport

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in my constituency are very important parts of the overall Tata

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steel operations in Wales. Will you assure me that those plans will

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continue to be properly considered in Welsh Government actions to

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ensure a sustainable steel industry in Wales? The four major sites are

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hugely important and the operations we want to keep in Wales. We will be

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exporting steel from Wales. For plants important. I welcome they are

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not -- the oldest enamoured by Tata. -- the August announcement. I urge

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the Welsh comic will follow to make sure we consider that a successful

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and profitable site like Shotton is integral to any discussions and the

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steel industry going forward. I have been across to all four sites.

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Shotton always was a profitable site but as it was said to mean Shotton

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it would be very difficult for it to operate without the steel and Port

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Talbot because it would take about six months to source a steal from

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someone else of Port Talbot was not there. That would be an obvious

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knock-on effect of Port Talbot was not there. We now move to questions

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from the party leaders. First of all, Neil Hamilton from Ukip. And

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sure we'll all agree on congratulating the Welsh athletes in

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their performance in the Olympic Games and weddings are many gold

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medals. I don't expect him to agree with me that he and his decision

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should get the wooden spoon for pouring cold water on the Welsh

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chances of hosting the Commonwealth Games here in 2026. The cost

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involved is ?1.5 billion and at this moment in time that cost would mean

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there would be no money to watch major events for the next decade in

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Wales. The Scots were able to host the games at a cheaper price because

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they did not have to build as much as we have too. We would have to

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build a new athletic Stadium and velodrome and extend the pool we

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have at the moment. The Carter cost would be huge for would make it very

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difficult for the Commonwealth Games to go to smaller countries these

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days. What we wanted was to put in a Welsh bed and that was not looked at

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favourably, opted launch a joint bid for cities in England which are not

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possible with the current rules governing Commonwealth Games built.

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-- bed. --Bid. I accept the point about the capital cost of improving

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the Welsh infrastructure. We're talking about 1.1 billion one 5p.

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The context of a Welsh government budget of ?15 billion per year were

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talking about peanuts. What I'm asking the First Minister to do is

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waste sites embraces game and promote Wales the world through the

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exploits of our athletes and what we need is action from a government to

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match that in improving the sporting infrastructure in Wales so we can

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host the games in 2026. There is a significant opportunity cost. We

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have been hugely successful in many years for attracting major events to

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Wales ever Champions League final coming next year we've had a rugby

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League Cup and we have the speedway every year without the rugby league

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and union World Cups and major cricket matches and no money would

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be available for any of those events welly to host the Commonwealth

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Games. To my mind we use that money to bring in events such as those,

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the Champions League final four example is an enormously useful way

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of promoting Wales and is the largest single sporting event of the

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world. If we were to go for the Commonwealth Games, the money would

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not be there to attract investment like that in future. The First

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Minister seems to have a rather static view of his functions as

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First Minister. Why do we take a more dynamic view of these projects?

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Other countries do. They can see the advantages of racing our

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aspirations. This in a long line of projects which the government has

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poured cold water on. These are all projects that were too difficult and

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too hard kick them into long grass and ultimately do nothing. It is not

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nothing to have -- is not good enough to have do nothing

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administration here. He seems to have a delusion about money because

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it is a significant financial commitment it would involve and it

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would have meant we would not be able to host many events in future

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and would have a knock-on effect of capital budgets. Much better to look

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at investing in grassroots sport. Yes, and building up infrastructure,

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with little to velodrome receipts which we don't have the national

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pool which does not have seats. And diving pool. But the cost is talking

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about a huge and we have looted all the options of the Commonwealth

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Games and looked at hosting the games were somebody else and those

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options were closed off to us. Much better that we're able to use a

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monitor events such as the Champions League final which will broadcast

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wheels to huge audience around the world. -- Wales. The terms on which

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we leave the European Union will define a feature of the Welsh

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economy and all of Welsh politics. You have said that Wales should have

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a veto if the Brexit deal is not a good one for Wales. It is one thing

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to call for a veto but we need to see fission and people are looking

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to you for that comprehensive detailed inspiring vision of what

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Wales looks like after we leave the European Union. Fighting for what we

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already have in terms of funding is not sufficient. That would just

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deliver the bare minimum which is not good enough. When can we expect

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to hear your vision as to what new Wales would look like after we the

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European Union or don't you have one? It would be Wales is very much

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still part of Europe and looks out words and continues to be successful

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in attracting investment and that is the message to the United States

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last week. It is used for importing of tariff free access to the

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marketing goods and services. It would not be too advantage of tyres

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were imposed. Yes, in keeping with the promise that was made by the UK

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Government we want to make sure that Wales does not miss out on any. What

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we need to explore is what kind of model we need.

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The WTO model does not work to my mind as far as Wales is concerned.

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We need to understand that they do a UK Government will keep its

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commitment that all government will be at their heart of negotiations

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are not at the end of negotiations in the UK Government itself has to

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work out what it once. It is talked about a bespoke deal but what are

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the elements of those deal? What is the UK Government is essential? For

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me, funding and access to the single market are fundamental. Without them

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Wales would undoubtedly lose out. The Nice to be examination as to

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what it means for freedom of movement. We know that many people

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voted to leave because of that issue and then is to be handled carefully

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in terms of the public view. The next steps are the Cabinet

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subcommittee met yesterday to look at the initial challenges that

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Brexit presents and external advisory group will meet at the end

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of the month. That is not a vision. You have outlined the next steps.

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You have outlined what you would like to see the Prime Minister do

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much have not told us what you want to see for Wales. There have been

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mixed messages coming from your UK leader on this question of single

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market membership and your own statements have not been much clear

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that either. You have called for a free access to the European single

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market and you've also said that she wants uninterrupted access and last

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week who said he wanted to see a seven year moratorium on the free

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movement of people. I was in Brussels last week with a number of

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members from my team that has made absolutely clear to us that you

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cannot have complete free access without accepting free movement of

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people. Access can include all kinds of costs including tariffs and we

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have heard today how that would be bad for steel. It could mean custom

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charges, all of which would be against the best interests of Wales.

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First Minister, do you believe that Wales should remain as a member of

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the single market when we leave the European Union? Yes, I have said

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that many times. Thank you for clarity on that point. You

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contradicted that position last week. Finally we have clarity and

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I'm grateful to you for that. Last night your Labour MPs, Welsh Labour

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MPs, voted against the worst legal jurisdiction. The amendment Labour

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voted against was from your very own government and laws in Wales Bill.

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And that is not the first time that has happened. When they voted

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against life company back in July he said the problem was of timing and

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not of principle. --Plaid Cymru. Why can't you influence your colleagues

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in Westminster? I have often said that access to the single market is

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essential. Access is not membership. Access to the single market on

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tariffs and services is absolutely crucial that I've been saying that

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ad nauseam. And what matters in Westminster is a matter in

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Westminster. We have taken the view that distinction of Jews dish is

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important about the cannot be a lasting devolution settlement for

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Wales. The leader of the Welsh Conservatives. First Minister, last

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week you were America and promoting what Wales has to offer the

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businesses looking to invest. -- distinction of jurisdiction. Use the

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speech about the break-up of the United Kingdom which seemed rather

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odd when you are looking to promote a product worth hundreds of millions

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of dollars. Can you explain why you use the trade mission to use the

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platform for the break-up of the letter kingdom? What did not say was

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that those in business are fat and lazy golfers which is a theme of his

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party at the moment. I wonder please actually read my speech. Amid a very

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clear that the work challenges -- I made a very clear that work

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challenges as fathers -- as far as Brexit was concerned. I also said

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there was huge challenges for the UK. It clearly came over that you're

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fantasising again about the break-up of the letter kingdom which is

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something you spend a lot of time talking about. Is anybody who goes

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before an entrepreneur you do not go and test the product you're trying

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to sell. One thing you could have done is gone over to Detroit and

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spoken at the headquarters of Ford and spoken to the directors and

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senior management team about the announcement that was made last week

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about cutting back production at the Bridgend facility. There are still

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?100 million of investment going into the engine facility that is a

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significant announcement and the half of Ford about how they will

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take forward the dynamics of that plan. That you request a meeting

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with Ford and if he did why was not granted? Yes, we did request a

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meeting but we were told the meeting should we with them. That in terms

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of a comment you made earlier about it is quite clearly is not read my

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speech and is just picked up on giving the impression I said a seven

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thing which is good for I have not read the speech it is just what I've

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seen online. It is read by some interest by people who were there.

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Like him I want to make sure that the UK is intact in the future but

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it cannot carry on is when there are so many changes coming down the line

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when we leave the EU. But this book to business in America every single

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one of them wanted to know what happened next with Brexit. It was

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the theme as far as American investors are concerned that I was

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able to say to them that my view was it was hugely important we have

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access to this and marketing of fee basis and is sadly give their

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beliefs and they were happy to hear that because they had not heard from

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the UK Government. It is hugely important that the UK Government now

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make sure has coherent view rather than what we saw the Foreign

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Secretary doing this week. We need to seek coherence annuity in the UK

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Government. I regret that Ford and tried title not prepared to meet you

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because as I understand it that is where the decision about investment

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was taken and they seem to have passed the ball back to Ford Europe

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on this matter. That the three legitimate questions which I hope

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that your government has been acting with Ford on. How can that Giles be

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secured with such a dramatic cutback in their plant and what's new lines

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could potentially come to the plant to secure the 1850 jobs and it is

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fair to say the worst government have put money on the table to

:29:28.:29:32.

retain jobs at their job plant at a level of 850 jobs I understand it.

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Obviously there are 850 jobs at that site at the moment of what

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assurances can you give around the assurances the worst government have

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been given around new products coming to the plant and above all

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about the future viability of the plant?

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They explored every engine they make. Tariffs have been at 5% and

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possibly a 10% tariff coming back in. Nobody can cope with that. Many

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businesses in the States said the same thing. They are waiting to see

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what happens with regard to what the UK does. If we manage to secure

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tariff free access to the European market I think the problem is

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resolved. That is what is that investors are looking for. They

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don't see the UK is isolated, they see it as part of Europe. The Ford

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workforce are efficient but they cannot be put in a situation where

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tariff barriers will interfere with the future viability of the plant

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which is why I have been clear that whatever model the UK adopts that

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the UK Government needs to declare that position now in order to give

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that certainty. Question three Nick Ramsay. Will the First Minister

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provide an update on the development of the South Wales Metro? The

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procurement for the operator and partner for the Wales and Borders

:31:30.:31:34.

franchise has started and subject to a successful competition the

:31:35.:31:37.

contract will be awarded at the end of next year. Our rail network has

:31:38.:31:43.

been on the minds of my constituents with the start-up the six-week

:31:44.:31:49.

closure period of the seven tunnel. Speed of travel is a key aspect of

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our quality-of-life site was very concerned to hear that the town of

:31:53.:31:56.

Monmouth might not be part of the future Metro map following funding

:31:57.:32:03.

concerns. How can you reassure my constituents are Metro scheme will

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reach all parts of south-east Wales so that nobody feels excluded and is

:32:06.:32:11.

the government looking at all Metro options in rural areas? We have no

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plans to change the current proposals and Monmouth is part of

:32:20.:32:22.

the Metro in terms of its future development. What is correct is that

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?125 million worth of funding for the Metro was due from European

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funding and without that funding clearly there will be a limit on how

:32:35.:32:37.

far and how fast the Metro project can proceed. I have heard what was

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said that Wales would not lose out as a result of leaving the EU and

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funding for each and every part of the UK including Wales will be safe

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if we vote to leave. Andrew R.T. Davies said that. He has his own

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leader's assured us that that money will be available for the Metro and

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I'm sure he will receive that assurance. Several of us on these

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benches are also members of the corporative party and spent part of

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the weekend discussing the role of social enterprises in the Welsh

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economy. Do you agree it would be a positive outcome to see social

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enterprises and corpse involved integrally in the delivery of

:33:24.:33:26.

various aspects of the South Wales Metro? Absolutely. We want to see a

:33:27.:33:32.

model that invests in the network itself and the model that provides

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good service to passengers and a fair price. Before the recess the

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First Minister dismissed suggestions that within the economic plan for

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the capital region that a distinct daters should be afforded to the

:33:56.:33:58.

city of Newport and other centres outside Cardiff. Love the First

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Minister confirm that his plans for the capital region amounted to no

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more than making the committee to Cardiff easier rather than a

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comprehensive plan to spread job creation opportunities across the

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entire Southeast? Of course Newport on the valleys are part of the

:34:16.:34:22.

region because the reality is 11 million people year come to Cardiff

:34:23.:34:29.

station. Is this simply about bringing people from Valley

:34:30.:34:32.

communities to Cardiff? That is half the story but the other half is to

:34:33.:34:36.

make it easier for investors to move feared investments in the Valley

:34:37.:34:39.

communities as it comes easier to get there. It will be a two-way

:34:40.:34:53.

flow. Whilst my party welcomes the Metro project closer inspection

:34:54.:34:56.

makes it difficult to envisage any real advantage it brings to the

:34:57.:35:01.

conurbations of the Eastern valleys. Could the First Minister, where if

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any improvements had envisaged to enhance connectivity for this area?

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We have the existing rail network into Cardiff on that offers the

:35:13.:35:16.

opportunity to examine how those networks can be made quicker in the

:35:17.:35:22.

future. The point about the Metro is it is extendable. It's not about

:35:23.:35:25.

simply looking at the structure we have at the moment. The Metro in the

:35:26.:35:37.

future will include new bus connectivity so Eastern Cardiff is

:35:38.:35:41.

in the same situation. It is poorly served by the rail network and as

:35:42.:35:45.

the Metro rules out we need to look at these areas with real

:35:46.:35:51.

transporters nonexistent to make sure those gaps are filled in the

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future. Question four, Neil McEvoy. It is the First Minister stand by

:35:58.:36:01.

his position from 2012 that it is appropriate to Cardiff Council to

:36:02.:36:04.

have plans to build tens of thousands of new houses within the

:36:05.:36:08.

city's boundaries with a large number of those on green fields? I

:36:09.:36:18.

have never taken such a position. You said on the 14th of June and I

:36:19.:36:31.

found the South Wales Echo from the 5th of April 2012 where you were

:36:32.:36:36.

quoted announcing that Labour would introduce a local development plan

:36:37.:36:43.

under the current system. The South Wales Echo in its editorial said the

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newspaper firmly disagreed with you, that tens of thousands of houses had

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to be built within the city's limits. The reported comments which

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you have denied. So my questionnaires what was the editor

:37:01.:37:02.

of the South Wales Echo also living in a land of our -- and to see and

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do you stand by your comments on the matter? I never make comments on

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planning applications. It's the whole pod of being in government.

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The reason why the story appeared in the paper is because he put it

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there. I never make any comment on any LDP anywhere in Wales is far as

:37:31.:37:37.

whether it should go ahead or not. There is a proper procedure for

:37:38.:37:45.

doing that. David Melding. But they remind the chamber that over the

:37:46.:37:52.

last 15 years we have built an average 8000 homes a year in Wales

:37:53.:37:56.

when trends indicated that we needed to build 12,000 homes. If we have

:37:57.:38:04.

any catch up we need to go beyond 12,000 homes a year and the sad fact

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is if we don't face up to the housing crisis it is young people

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after family homes that will be denied decent living conditions that

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most of us will have enjoyed in our upbringing. It's true to say that

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demand has exceeded supply the many years. That housing has to go where

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it is needed. It has to go with Amanda 's highest.

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They are sometimes not without controversy but we have to make sure

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that we have enough houses available for people who need them. I won't go

:38:47.:38:55.

into the issue of what the First Minister did or did not saying 2012

:38:56.:39:02.

but there is an important issue here regarding overdevelopment of Cardiff

:39:03.:39:06.

and major housing developments which have been proposed and are likely to

:39:07.:39:11.

go ahead which go against the wishes of most of the current residents of

:39:12.:39:16.

the city. It is the first most agree there is a problem with a lack of

:39:17.:39:18.

accountability in the planning system in Wales particularly with

:39:19.:39:21.

planning Inspectorate and should we make move in the assembly to tell it

:39:22.:39:27.

the powers of the planning Inspectorate in Wales? There has to

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be a process of examination that is robust. Cardiff is a growing city.

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Its publishing has expanded mightily over the last 30 years and how you

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deal with that demand, it's not simply a matter that Cardiff because

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we know that Tim and would be their outside of the city boundaries as

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well. But be another going to get to a position where we are not building

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any houses. For local authorities they have two reduce a local

:40:01.:40:05.

development plan and put forward the evidence for their plans and have

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those plans tested and I think that is a robust system to make sure an

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LDP has been tested as thoroughly as possible. Question five. Will you

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provide an update on the Welsh Government's progress in recruiting

:40:24.:40:30.

more GPs? Plans to recruit and train GPs and other health care

:40:31.:40:39.

professionals is a priority. There is concern in kid welly because of

:40:40.:40:49.

the difficulty in recruiting and retaining GPs. Local councillors

:40:50.:40:54.

have been working hard to inform the community and Hywel Dda Health Board

:40:55.:40:57.

has been trying to recruit a clinical team to the surgery to

:40:58.:41:00.

bring in locums. I was pleased to hear that the government is planning

:41:01.:41:04.

a recruitment campaign. It's essential that the Welsh Government

:41:05.:41:08.

works with health boards and they are not left to run their own

:41:09.:41:13.

campaigns in isolation. Would he give us some details about his

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thoughts on adapting the model that GPs currently have in building up

:41:18.:41:22.

their own surgeries and buying into them? I understand that to locums

:41:23.:41:37.

have been recruited and the service has been resumed. What I notice with

:41:38.:41:45.

many younger GPs is they don't want to buy the practices, they want

:41:46.:41:50.

flexibility. Raising the money to buy into practice is tricky and they

:41:51.:41:52.

want the flexibility of moving around. The days when GPs went

:41:53.:41:57.

somewhere and stayed for their working lives are fewer and fewer

:41:58.:42:03.

want to do that. The NHS has to adapt to that reality. It means that

:42:04.:42:08.

where health boards to go the surgeries quite often the services

:42:09.:42:14.

are enhanced. With it is another practice which next -- needs to take

:42:15.:42:19.

over, there has to be a different models in the future to make sure

:42:20.:42:21.

general practices seen as attractive. Rhun ap Iorwerth. Last

:42:22.:42:34.

week I met with a number of GPs from Anglesey and we discussed how we

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could encourage more young people to aspire to a career as a GP and I'm

:42:40.:42:44.

sure the First Minister will share my concern about the reduction of

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15% in the nub of Welsh domiciled students who have been applying to

:42:48.:42:52.

study medicine. I am sure he would also support my call for the

:42:53.:43:00.

training of more Welsh domiciled students in Wales. The figures

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demonstrate that 80% of medical students in Northern Ireland are

:43:04.:43:10.

from Northern Ireland and 50% of medical students from Scotland are

:43:11.:43:16.

from Scotland. And only 20% of medical students in Wales come from

:43:17.:43:18.

Wales. It is the First Minister agree that we need to change that

:43:19.:43:26.

percentage and that has to include an element of quotas? I think it's

:43:27.:43:32.

fair to make that point. I would wish to see more young people

:43:33.:43:39.

training in Wales. I have heard anecdotally of people that have been

:43:40.:43:42.

given an offer from a medical school in England but not received one from

:43:43.:43:48.

medical schools in Wales. That is a concern. We must ensure that more

:43:49.:43:56.

and more young people wish to become doctors and also ensure there is

:43:57.:43:59.

more of an opportunity for them to train in Wales. I do understand that

:44:00.:44:03.

way you train has a great impact on where you work later on. The planned

:44:04.:44:13.

primary care workforce for Wales referenced the emerging role of

:44:14.:44:17.

physicians associations and medical schools as a way of boosting the

:44:18.:44:24.

numbers of GPs in Wales. Given the undeniable crisis of GP provision in

:44:25.:44:29.

Wales, how have you taken this recommendation forward and what

:44:30.:44:32.

plans do you have in place to increase on just 27 funded places

:44:33.:44:37.

available through our medical schools in Wales?

:44:38.:44:44.

The crisis in Wales this crisis across the rest of Britain. It is

:44:45.:44:52.

difficult to attracting GPs and we know that which is why the campaign

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is being launched in October. It is not simply about opportunity and

:44:57.:45:00.

flexibility but also about providing the right environment for their

:45:01.:45:06.

wider family as well. The statement that the Cabinet Secretary will make

:45:07.:45:09.

will outline in detail how that campaign will proceed. First

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Minister, I met last Thursday with Gary Doherty, the cheek integrity of

:45:18.:45:30.

the Betsy Cadwell health board. -- chief officer. -- Cadwallader. We

:45:31.:45:45.

discussed training were speaking staff. -- Welsh speaking staff. Do

:45:46.:45:53.

you agree this would be away for us to encourage more people to study

:45:54.:45:56.

and Wales and stay in but also to help with the dearth of Welsh

:45:57.:46:03.

speaking professionals and the health service? Would you be willing

:46:04.:46:08.

to speak with Lord Ellis Thomas who is the Chancellor of Bangor

:46:09.:46:14.

University and shall speak with Gary Doherty who agreed with me that this

:46:15.:46:20.

was a good idea? It is important that any medical school can give the

:46:21.:46:24.

full opportunity and training to a student and this is an issue that

:46:25.:46:28.

has been raised before. If this can be done and banker. The deanery will

:46:29.:46:36.

have a view on that. -- in the town of banker. -- banker. --Bangor. We

:46:37.:46:50.

must not give the impression that we do not want doctors and nurses the

:46:51.:46:59.

UK. Often they come from outside the EU and they are crucial. You can

:47:00.:47:03.

never train people who will spend the entire working lives in the

:47:04.:47:06.

country in which they are trained so you have to appeal internationally

:47:07.:47:13.

as well. Will the Welsh government plans to be outlined for future

:47:14.:47:20.

transport provision in North Wales be outlined by the First Minister?

:47:21.:47:28.

The planned Metro North scheme will be outlined as will all parts of

:47:29.:47:34.

transport in the North. How do you respond regarding English bodies

:47:35.:47:42.

such as real North must have devolved franchise responsibility

:47:43.:47:45.

alongside the worst government for those cross-border services such as

:47:46.:47:50.

Wrexham into England which remain in a devolved franchise? It is

:47:51.:47:56.

difficult to draw announced a line on the Wales and Borders franchise

:47:57.:48:00.

but I would not agree with one suggestion from the Department for

:48:01.:48:04.

Transport that any service in England should be run from England

:48:05.:48:08.

and that would mean literally no service warning across anywhere in

:48:09.:48:12.

North Wales would be controlled from Wales at all apart from one line. It

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is the same for the Central Wales railway and the heart of Wales

:48:19.:48:21.

railway and the Cambrian core services. It would be wholly

:48:22.:48:30.

unacceptable. Plus we want to make sure that the Wales border service

:48:31.:48:37.

with its franchises from Wales, we believe they can provide an equally

:48:38.:48:39.

good service to people living in England. For the First Minister make

:48:40.:48:47.

a statement of public transport in Wales? I believe that I answered you

:48:48.:48:55.

in the last question. We discussed the South Wales Metro fare better in

:48:56.:49:00.

the session. Your party published a plan for the Metro for the

:49:01.:49:05.

north-east to all intents and purposes and they were lines on our

:49:06.:49:08.

map and many stakeholders are given the opinion that. That is not

:49:09.:49:14.

talking about Metro just empty talk with a basic services are not being

:49:15.:49:19.

provided? Would you accept that questions your should answer? --

:49:20.:49:26.

your government should answer? Will the First Minister make a

:49:27.:50:39.

statement on how the Welsh NHS keeps the principal of principles at the

:50:40.:50:45.

point of care. We need comprehensive care at the point of delivery. The

:50:46.:50:55.

internal market in the NHS in England has been estimated to cost

:50:56.:50:58.

up to 10 million a year. Would you agree what the Welsh Labour

:50:59.:51:03.

government commitment to having no internal market in the Welsh NHS has

:51:04.:51:08.

been of tremendous benefit for patients and that it is a commitment

:51:09.:51:12.

that will continue. I can give that commitment. Where markers have been

:51:13.:51:18.

introduced in the NHS elsewhere they have led to wasted inefficiency.

:51:19.:51:22.

That was First Minister's Questions. There is more coverage online. That

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is it from First Minister's Questions this afternoon. We'll be

:51:36.:51:40.

back at the later time of 4pm next week because of coverage of the

:51:41.:51:44.

Liberal Democrat conference. It is conference season once again. All

:51:45.:51:48.

the latest political news on Wales today later at 6:30pm. And the Welsh

:51:49.:51:57.

news at 9pm on S4C. From all of us on the programme, goodbye.

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