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and our weekly coverage of qeestionc to the irst Minister.

It's the dibst sdssion of the autumn term with AMs

I have had a look at during the break campaigning

expect at least one questaon relatEd to Thursday's Scottish referendum.

expect at least one questaon relatEd questions on apprenticeships,

expect at least one questaon relatEd and rail capacity across Wales.

Business in the chain is and it take the latest news on Welsh politics

Business in the chain is and it take a look at today as questions

a look at today `s questions to defence Minister. The Assembly for

a look at today `s questions to Wales is in session.

Does the First Minister agree me that the effect on our

Does the First Minister agree nation and our economy would be

devastating? nation and our economy would be

detactatilg? As nation and our economy would be

devastating? As a patriotic Welshman I want to see what is best for my

devastating? As a patriotic Welshman nation. I want to see that the

napion nation. I want to see that the

nation will be best served with napion will be bdst served with a

strong identity within the napion will be bdst served with a

Whatever the outcome of the vote napion will be bdst served with a

Thursday the UK Government has said Thqrcday the K Fovernmdnt has said

that the devolution settlement in the

that the devolution settlement in tha EK will

that the devolution settlement in the UK will need rebalancing. Are

the EK will need rebalancang. @re you able to tell us of any specific

the EK will need rebalancang. @re arguments you have put

the EK will need rebalancang. @re any of those many meetings about

the EK will need rebalancang. @re bahlot refobm? Yes, Wales

ballot redobm? Yes, ales is underfunding, a

ballot redobm? Yes, ales is convention to deal

ballot redobm? Yes, ales is regarding the whole of the UK. These

regabding t`e whnle of the UK. These are issues that the UK Government

are issues dhat the K Fovernmdnt took notice of two years ago but now

are issues dhat the K Fovernmdnt they are taking a great deal of!

Whatever happens on Friday, it will they are taking a great deal of!

be ecsential they are taking a great deal of!

be essential to ensure that we have be ecsential to dnsure that we have

our UK that is fit for the future. I be ecsential to dnsure that we have

listened very carefully to what the Prime Minhster

listened very carefully to what the Prime Minister said when he said the

United Kingdom is not a nation, it Prime Minister said when he said the

is made up of four nations and Prime Minister said when he said the

must be reflected in any settlement. Prime Minister said when he said the

Can I Prime Minister said when he said the

Can A take Prime Minister said when he said the

Can I take you back to the Prime Minister said when he said the

November 2012 when you said, we know Wahec

November 2012 when you said, we know Wales is underfunded by ?350 million

a year it had lubk in Wales is underfunded by ?350 million

a year it had luck in permanently Wales is underfunded by ?350 million

the underfunding. That can't possably be

the underfunding. That can't possibly be in Wales's best

interest. Today, your leader said that Barndtd

interest. Today, your leader said that Barnett allocation would be

locked in permanently and in perfect that Barnett allocation would be

unity and the underfunding for Wales would continue. Buy your own

would continue. @uq your own definition that is not in Wales

dedinition dhat hs not hn Wales best interests. Can you tell the Assembly

dedinition dhat hs not hn Wales best where you and your party

dedinition dhat hs not hn Wales best to act in Wales best

dedinition dhat hs not hn Wales best wouldn't mind

dedinition dhat hs not hn Wales best woqldn't lind thd member

dedinition dhat hs not hn Wales best wouldn't mind the member that Ed

dedinition dhat hs not hn Wales best Miliband hac

dedinition dhat hs not hn Wales best Miliband has made it clear, this is

Miliband hac madd at clear, thhs is something I agree with him, Wales's

an` something I agree with him, Wales's

and defending will be addressed something I agree with him, Wales's

under the Labour government. That is soiedhing

under the Labour government. That is something there to be delivered by

soiething t`ere to be ddlavered by a Labour government elected in May

soiething t`ere to be ddlavered by a that something Plaid Cymru could

that somethang Plaad Cylru could never deliver. Plaid Cymru argue the

that somethang Plaad Cylru could Scottish referendum opens the door

for the prospect of independence for Wahec.

for the prospect of independence for Wales. There is no evidence to

suggest the people of Wales would Wales. There is no evidence to

choose independence let alone having imposed on them. With the First

choose independence let alone having Minister agree that the

choose independence let alone having Milister `gree that the doll will be

Minister agree that the doll will be opaned

Minister agree that the doll will be opened will be the one that offers

Minister agree that the doll will be fupt`er ddvolution

Minister agree that the doll will be further devolution across the

Minister agree that the doll will be fupt`er ddvolution across the TK.

Minister agree that the doll will be further devolution across the UK. --

Minister agree that the doll will be that the door will be opened. What

was curious yesterday was that I that the door will be opened. What

found myself agreeing with David that the door will be opened. What

Cameron, Nigel Farage and John Camebon, Nigel F`rage and John

Redwood. The UK is made up of four Camebon, Nigel F`rage and John

nations, Ho`n Redwood Camebon, Nigel F`rage and John

nations, John Redwood called Camebon, Nigel F`rage and John

more devolution and mope devoludion `nd igdl Farafe

called for a federal UK. One thing is absolutely clear, the old union

called for a federal UK. One thing will

called for a federal UK. One thing wihl not

called for a federal UK. One thing will not work from

called for a federal UK. One thing wihl not vobk from Friday

will not vobk from Frid`y onwards. There is an easy reconstruct the

Thare is `n easy reconstruct the union on a path of equality, on a

Thare is `n easy reconstruct the path of equitable distribution of

paph of equatable distribution of resources as was pledged by

paph of equatable distribution of resoerces ac was pledged by thd

paph of equatable distribution of three UK party leaders yesterday.

paph of equatable distribution of That is something I look forward to

That is somethinf A look forward to discussing with colleagues

discessinf gith bolleagtes in England, Northern Ireland and in

discessinf gith bolleagtes in Scotland.

Will the First Minister make a statement on apppenticeshaps

Funding is being directed to up to 24 years old and stop. I would

up to 24 xears old and rtop. I would like to thank the First Minister for

like to thank thd First Manister for that response. Some

like to thank thd First Manister for had with business leaders

like to thank thd First Manister for flagged their

like to thank thd First Manister for about access to apprenticeship

like to thank thd First Manister for funding for the over 25 's and

partaculaplq funding for the over 25 's and

particularly those funding for the over 25 's and

particularlq those returnang funding for the over 25 's and

particularly those returning to work maybe after maternity or other

maybe after matepnaty or other career breaks.

maybe after matepnaty or other capeer breacs. What

maybe after matepnaty or other career breaks. What steps are you

maybe after matepnaty or other prepared to consider to address this

particular prepared to consider to address this

paptaculap assue prepared to consider to address this

particular issue which is of prepared to consider to address this

concern include ladies wearing recreitmelt

concern include ladies wearing recruitment is a problem and

concern include ladies wearing the economy is more fragile.

concern include ladies wearing including approval in

concern include ladies wearing Apprenticeships will

concern include ladies wearing Apprentices`ips will stay,

concern include ladies wearing Apprenticeships will stay, Welsh

Apprentices`ips vill stay, Welsh language apprenticeships will remain

and we will continue to build on the successful Bobs

and we will continue to build on the successful Jobs Growth Wales scheme.

First Minister, God government has Fipsd inhsder, Fod govdrnment has

made much fanfare of young recruits progbamme,

made much fanfare of young recruits programme. One of my

progbamme, One od my constituents has been an active dissident in this

has been `n actite disshdent in this scheme. I wanted to take

has been `n actite disshdent in this electrical apprenticeships this

September. They have been left in liibo because he doesn't

September. They have been left in limbo because he doesn't know

limbo becauce he doesn't cnow hf there will be any support for him to

thare will be anx support for him to take these three young men on.

thare will be anx support for him to has he been put into this position

an` has he been put into this position

and what advice can you give him has he been put into this position

that the funding will be secured and has he been put into this position

he won't have to let down these has he been put into this position

three men? has he been put into this position

thpee men> My has he been put into this position

three men? My advice is he should contact my office the Minister 's

three men? My advice is he should office his details or you as his

ofdice his details or ynu as hhs member to examine what might be

possible. We can't spend where member to examine what might be

want to in member to examine what might be

want to il derms of apprenticeships because of the budget settlements

want to il derms of apprenticeships would received from London. First

would receifed fpom ondon. First Minister, your government has cut a

Milicter, your gnvernment has but a number of training and education

Milicter, your gnvernment has but a budgets do

Milicter, your gnvernment has but a budgets dn drink

Milicter, your gnvernment has but a budgets do drink this financial year

Milicter, your gnvernment has but a and over the summer recess and the

Milicter, your gnvernment has but a implications of cutting back on the

Milicter, your gnvernment has but a apprenticeship budget is that in

Milicter, your gnvernment has but a West Wales they will not be

Milicter, your gnvernment has but a West Wales dhey vill not be anx

West Wales they will not be any apprentices taken on by

West Wales they will not be any between now and next April.

between nnw and lept April. Considering the level of

between nnw and lept April. unemployment amongst young people do

yoq unemployment amongst young people do

you think it is acceptable the government has taken this that? I

don't accept that is correct. We government has taken this that? I

have jobs growth in Wales, we do government has taken this that? I

have apprenticeship schemes and I government has taken this that? I

don't accept there will be nothing government has taken this that? I

available at all. It is true to government has taken this that? I

available at all. At is true to say government has taken this that? I

that some of these schemes are still in place particularly those

in place pabticularly those targeting young people. Let's move

in place pabticularly those to questions from the

in place pabticularly those to qeestionc from the p`rty leaders.

in place pabticularly those First Minister, yesterday the deputy

in place pabticularly those leader of Plaid Cymru said you had

leader of Plaid Bymru s`id you had betrayed the

leader of Plaid Bymru s`id you had beprayed the national

leader of Plaid Bymru s`id you had betrayed the national interest in

your discussions and your debates aboud

your discussions and your debates about Wales's place within the UK.

your discussions and your debates Do you agree with me the only

Do you agree with me thd only betrayal anyone will have is

beprayal `nqone vill have is sdeking to break the union of the UK

beprayal `nqone vill have is sdeking to bbeak the union of the UK that

to break the union of the UK that has created so much economic

to break the union of the UK that vibrancy, social cohesion and offers

to break the union of the UK that such a bright future for the peoples

of these islands. You are such a bright future for the peoples

wrong. I don't like the such a bright future for the peoples

betrayal. This is an exercise in such a bright future for the peoples

democracy. Viewpoint it should such a bright future for the peoples

respected. I find that remarkable. respected, A find that remarkable.

That is your view. What we respected, A find that remarkable.

hosted through the summer recess is respected, A find that remarkable.

the NATO summit that showed Wales respected, A find that remarkable.

ofd in its respected, A find that remarkable.

off in its true respected, A find that remarkable.

ofd in its drue bolours, able respected, A find that remarkable.

off in its true colours, able to host such a magnificent display of

off in its true colours, able to solidarity. President Obama

off in its true colours, able to sohidarity. President Obama said yOu

off in its true colours, able to can see the natural beauty, the

wonderful people and great can see the natural beauty, the

hospitality when you come to Wales. Is id

hospitality when you come to Wales. Is it not a fact if we were not part

Is id not a fact if we vere not part of the UK Wales could not play its

rohe in of the UK Wales could not play its

role in supporting of the UK Wales could not play its

rohe in stp`orting the ambitions of the UK Wales could not play its

that all the leaders stood of the UK Wales could not play its

they came to Wales at the Celtic Manob

they came to Wales at the Celtic Manor and Cardiff Castle and

they came to Wales at the Celtic declarations that

they came to Wales at the Celtic declarationc that NATO

they came to Wales at the Celtic declarations that NATO made about

secubing declarations that NATO made about

securing peace across the areas it declarations that NATO made about

has respolsability. declarations that NATO made about

has responsibility. We declarations that NATO made about

has respolsability. We bould has bespolsability. e bould nnt

have hosted the NATO conference has bespolsability. e bould nnt

we were not part of the UK. I was we were nnt part of the UC. I vas

very pleased with the we were nnt part of the UC. I vas

is generated, I look forward to the investment

is generated, I look forward to the intectment confepence

is generated, I look forward to the investment conference that

is generated, I look forward to the intectment confepence that will

investment conference that will take part in November. We had the

part in November, We had the receptions for the media and the

part in November, We had the reception that was held in the

rece`tion t`at was held in the Celtic Manor. I was

rece`tion t`at was held in the Cehtac Malob. I was joined

rece`tion t`at was held in the Celtic Manor. I was joined by the

leaders of Plaid Cymru and the Celtic Manor. I was joined by the

Liberal Democrats. I find it soieghat

Liberal Democrats. I find it somewhat surprising on the first

Liberal Democrats. I find it question you are unable to stand in

Liberal Democrats. I find it agreement with my good self but

Liberal Democrats. I find it note that

Liberal Democrats. I find it nope that the points

Liberal Democrats. I find it note that the points you made you

Liberal Democrats. I find it were going to have further

Liberal Democrats. I find it discussions in England,

discessiols in Elgland, Northern Ireland and Wales but you, sorry, in

discessiols in Elgland, Northern Scotland, but he did not mention

discessiols in Elgland, Northern Wales. Will you have the

discessiols in Elgland, Northern here in Wales over the wave union is

shaped in the future, shaped in t`e future, bdcause hs

important that way we disagree we shaped in t`e future, bdcause hs

can have that debate. We can shaped in t`e future, bdcause hs

common ground in the discussions coimon ground in t`e discussions

that after a no Mac vote on Thursday coimon ground in t`e discussions

we can go and develop a union coimon ground in t`e discussions

that'll be responsible to the needs coimon ground in t`e discussions

of the 21st-century and find coimon ground in t`e discussions

of t`e 21st-century and fand common coimon ground in t`e discussions

ground in the principles that will coimon ground in t`e discussions

benefit all the peoples of the coimon ground in t`e discussions

islands of Great Britain. And coimon ground in t`e discussions

Northern Ireland. I coimon ground in t`e discussions

Nort`ern Hreland, A havd coimon ground in t`e discussions

Northern Ireland. I have been saying coimon ground in t`e discussions

this for two years. It should've coimon ground in t`e discussions

been done a long time ago. They coimon ground in t`e discussions

should have coimon ground in t`e discussions

should hate been coimon ground in t`e discussions

should have been a convention coimon ground in t`e discussions

process to make sure the UK faced tha

process to make sure the UK faced the "1st century

process to make sure the UK faced the 21st century with

process to make sure the UK faced the "1st century wath a

process to make sure the UK faced the 21st century with a more

process to make sure the UK faced structure. In the

process to make sure the UK faced stpucture. In thd last

process to make sure the UK faced structure. In the last few weeks, it

process to make sure the UK faced has been remarkable that

process to make sure the UK faced has been remarka`le that there

process to make sure the UK faced has been remarkable that there has

process to make sure the UK faced bean acknnwledgement

process to make sure the UK faced been acknowledgement in Westminster

of t`e family been acknowledgement in Westminster

of the family of nations. Of the been acknowledgement in Westminster

four nations of the UK. Of the foqr nationc of the K. Of the need

to look carefully at the structure foqr nationc of the K. Of the need

of the UK. They will be differing of t`e UK. Dhey vill be daffering

viewpoints but it does need to be done. Wales must form part of those

viewpoints but it does need to be discussions. In the same way, we

viewpoints but it does need to be were not come as

viewpoints but it does need to be were not bome as a

viewpoints but it does need to be were not come as a government,

viewpoints but it does need to be accept Wales continuing to be

underfunded. If the ban is former accept Wales continuing to be

to remain -- Barnett formula is to accept Wales continuing to be

reiaan, it as accept Wales continuing to be

remain, it is important that accept Wales continuing to be

Wales's funding is dealt with accept Wales continuing to be

Walec's funding hs dealt with `nd accept Wales continuing to be

taken forward. accept Wales continuing to be

taken forwabd. That accept Wales continuing to be

taken forward. That is the view accept Wales continuing to be

shared with the Liberal Democrats. I invite you to outline your position

shared with the Liberal Democrats. I in terms of what Wales's funding

shared with the Liberal Democrats. I should be in future.

Leanne Wood. The First should be in future.

Leanne Wood. The Farst Linister should be in future.

Leanne Wood. The First Minister is should be in future.

right, it is remarkable that the should be in future.

establishment can come up with when they are faced with when they are

thay are daced wit` when they `re faced faced with over the few weeks.

thay are daced wit` when they `re This morning declaration was made

thay are daced wit` when they `re jointly to Scotland by Labour,

thay are daced wit` when they `re Tories and the Lib Dems and among

the promises was a commitment to keep the Barnett formula. Already

keap the @abnett formula. Already this morning, a Labour parliamentary

keap the @abnett formula. Already candidate has

keap the @abnett formula. Already caldadate has coldemned

keap the @abnett formula. Already candidate has condemned this file in

keap the @abnett formula. Already the ctronfect possable

keap the @abnett formula. Already the strongest possible terms.

the ctronfect possable terms. Vill the First Minister condemn this foul

the ctronfect possable terms. Vill as well? Hf

the ctronfect possable terms. Vill as well? If that were the case, I

as well? Hf that were the case, I could not agree with it. Barnett

will remain. Look at the first wihl remahn. ook at thd first

paragraph. It means it would wihl remahn. ook at thd first

possible to secure Wales's proper share of funding was at the same

possible to secure Wales's proper time keeping the formula.

Between 2010 and 2020 we will billions of pounds to our public

Between 2010 and 2020 we will services if the Barnett formula

Between 2010 and 2020 we will fixed. Is the First Minister is

suggesting fixed. Is the First Minister is

suggestinf doday fixed. Is the First Minister is

suggesting today that this is not fixed. Is the First Minister is

the whole truth and, if so, don't the ghole tbuth `nd, if so, don't

the people of Wales deserve to the ghole tbuth `nd, if so, don't

the people of Wales desdrve to know the people of Wales deserve to know

today what the future holds for todaq what dhe future hnlds for

their public services? Where is todaq what dhe future hnlds for

piece of paper? Where is your todaq what dhe future hnlds for

As Ed Miliband and I have said, an incoming Labour government will

As Ed Miliband and I have said, an address the issue of fair funding

ad`ress the issud of fahr fundhng for Wales. We have said that

publacly for Wales. We have said that

publicly for months and for Wales. We have said that

publacly for months and that publicly for months and that

position has not publicly for months and that

posidion has not c`anged. publicly for months and that

with the declaration that was publicly for months and that

that there will be publicly for months and that

distribution of resources across publicly for months and that

nations. Labour have had 20 of publicly for months and that

opportunity over many decades to refobm

opportunity over many decades to reform the Barnett formula and it

has failed to reform the Barnett formula and it

has failed do do so. reform the Barnett formula and it

has failed to do so. Why should reform the Barnett formula and it

people believe ppomises reform the Barnett formula and it

people believe promises now, people believe ppomises now,

especially in the people believe ppomises now,

especially an thd light of the people believe ppomises now,

guarantee that Labour h`s people believe ppomises now,

guarantee that Labour has made in Scotland? Today was the opportunity

for the First Minister to Scotland? Today was the opportunity

country ahead of party. All he has Scotland? Today was the opportunity

done Scotland? Today was the opportunity

dole throug`out Scotland? Today was the opportunity

done throughout this period is list the responsibilities that he doesn't

want to hold. He has harped on and on about a UK constitutional

want to hold. He has harped on and convention because of

want to hold. He has harped on and announcement

annoencemend tod`y show t`at team Westminster has given us all that we

Westminster has fiven ur all that we need to know? A constitutional

need to knog? A bonstitutaonal convention has already been

need to knog? A bonstitutaonal London and the First Minister was

not even invited. I London and the First Minister was

not even hnvited, A am not London and the First Minister was

not even invited. I am not sure if tha

not even invited. I am not sure if the leader

not even invited. I am not sure if the leadep of

not even invited. I am not sure if the leader of 37 macros listened

whan the leader of 37 macros listened

when I sahd quite the leader of 37 macros listened

when I said quite clearly that we as whan I sahd quite clearly that we as

a party are committed to fair whan I sahd quite clearly that we as

funding for Wales. I could not whan I sahd quite clearly that we as

put it plainly. And I am not part of pup it plainly. @nd al not p`rt of

team Westminster, I am pup it plainly. @nd al not p`rt of

team Westminster, A am part pup it plainly. @nd al not p`rt of

team Westminster, I am part of pup it plainly. @nd al not p`rt of

Wales. Independence would not make pup it plainly. @nd al not p`rt of

me more Welsh. The use of the word me more Wdlch. The use nf the vord

betrayal by 37 macros is me more Wdlch. The use nf the vord

beprayal `y 37 m`cros is dangerous betrayal by 37 macros is dangerous.

Wide? Becauce betrayal by 37 macros is dangerous.

Wide? Because we knew that Wide? Becauce we knew that the

concept of independence for Scotland Wide? Becauce we knew that the

is not supported by two Wide? Becauce we knew that the

is not supported bq two thirds Wide? Becauce we knew that the

tha Gelsh electopate. Wd Wide? Becauce we knew that the

the Welsh electorate. We know that tha

the Welsh electorate. We know that the concept of independence for

Wahec the concept of independence for

Wales is not supported by 80% of voters. We know that the concept of

in`e`endelce voters. We know that the concept of

independelce for voters. We know that the concept of

independence for Wales is not even voted by the majority of

independence for Wales is not even plan to vote for Plaid Cymru at the

plan to vnte for Plaid Bymru at the elections. Is she saying that all

plan to vnte for Plaid Bymru at the those people, those in this chamber

those people, thnse in thas ch`mber who are not holding the same view

those people, thnse in thas ch`mber her horror in some way betraying

those people, thnse in thas ch`mber their nation? I think those words

those people, thnse in thas ch`mber are exceptionally unfortunate and I

do hope that greater are exceptionally unfortunate and I

do hope thad greater thnught will Be do hope thad greater thnught will be

given to do hope thad greater thnught will be

giten to the choice of do hope thad greater thnught will be

given to the choice of words when it coiec

given to the choice of words when it comec to

given to the choice of words when it comes to describing those who

given to the choice of words when it equally ar

given to the choice of words when it equally as patriotic as Dubai

given to the choice of words when it equally ar patriotac as Dubai do nOt

equally as patriotic as Dubai do not hohd

equally as patriotic as Dubai do not hold the same view you

equally as patriotic as Dubai do not independence, which makes up the

equally as patriotic as Dubai do not majority of

equally as patriotic as Dubai do not mahority nf the people

equally as patriotic as Dubai do not majority of the people in

equally as patriotic as Dubai do not Leader of the Welsh Liberal

Democrats, Kirsty Williams. We have ma`e

Democrats, Kirsty Williams. We have made the biggest strides in

Democrats, Kirsty Williams. We have furthering devolution when we have

furtherinf devolutaon when we have token with -- spoken with a united

voice. Isn't it time for us to token with -- spoken with a united

reject separatism but to strive reject sepabatisl but to strivd for

proper home rule for Wales as part of a new United Kingdom

proper home rule for Wales as part market home rule was a concept first

proper home rule for Wales as part put forward by her party

proper home rule for Wales as part pup forwapd by hdr party and I think

proper home rule for Wales as part it is something that needs to

proper home rule for Wales as part resurrected. It is something I would

wholeheartedly support. She is right to say that we should reject

separatism in the UK, as we sepabatisl an thd UK, ar we shnuld

in the sepabatisl an thd UK, ar we shnuld

in t`e Eupo`ean Unaon. sepabatisl an thd UK, ar we shnuld

in the European Union. I entirely sepabatisl an thd UK, ar we shnuld

agree with her about Wales is better agree with `er a`out Wales is better

served in terms nf its agree with `er a`out Wales is better

constitutional future when as many agree with `er a`out Wales is better

parties as possible can agree on agree with `er a`out Wales is better

that future. As the whole of the UK engages in a conversation about

that future. As the whole of the UK engages il a contersation about the

future, would you not agree engages il a contersation about the

futube, would you not agree th`t engages il a contersation about the

future, would you not agree that it is essential that the voice of Wales

future, would you not agree that it is heard loud and clear? All parties

in t`e Asrembly participated through in the Assembly participated through

tha cilk in the Assembly participated through

the silk commission. tha cilk bommisshon. Do you agree

that it is dime tha cilk bommisshon. Do you agree

that it is time for the tha cilk bommisshon. Do you agree

implementation of all those recommend`taons?

implementation of all those recommendations? Yes, I do. There is

no reason now we it should not be implemented. The atmosphere

no reason now we it should not be changed rapidly within the UK. If

changed rapadly vithin the UK. If we are to proceed to a more equitable

changed rapadly vithin the UK. If we sharing of resources and power

wiphan sharing of resources and power

within the UK, then it will need to sharing of resources and power

be implemented. You sharing of resources and power

income tax powers on offer to sharing of resources and power

are pretty much useless. All parties are `retty much tseless. All p`rties

have voted against the lockstep and hate voted againrt the lockstep and

whatever the results on Thursday the hate voted againrt the lockstep and

justification for keeping it becomes less and less tenable.

justification for keeping it becomes less and lecs tenable. Vill

justification for keeping it becomes less and less tenable. Will you

confirm today that if the lock less and less tenable. Will you

confarm today th`t if the lock step less and less tenable. Will you

is removed you would welcome the less and less tenable. Will you

devolution of income tax powers less and less tenable. Will you

wheels? Once fair funding is espablishdd,

established, then the time will be established, then the time will be

there to look at tax powers. I say established, then the time will be

that because, and established, then the time will be

that becatse, and A have said established, then the time will be

that because, and I have said many established, then the time will be

times, we cannot accept a situation timec, we cannot accept a situ`tion

where we are underfunded then tech -- and then take on tax powers

-- and thdn take on tax powers because that will lock in the

-- and thdn take on tax powers underfunding. Once

-- and thdn take on tax powers addressed, we can look at it. I

ad`ressed, ge cal look `t it. H think there will be a devolution

ad`ressed, ge cal look `t it. H taxes

ad`ressed, ge cal look `t it. H taxec more

ad`ressed, ge cal look `t it. H taxes more widely across the UK. We

woqld taxes more widely across the UK. We

would need to be sure that the taxes more widely across the UK. We

redictribtte powers taxes more widely across the UK. We

redistribute powers remain, whilst taxes more widely across the UK. We

there is flexibility in this taxes more widely across the UK. We

to be able to exercise the powers taxes more widely across the UK. We

that the people would want that the people vould want to ree.

Question three. Will the that the people vould want to ree.

Minister make a statement on real that the people vould want to ree.

capacity acboss that the people vould want to ree.

capacity across Wales? Yes, we are that the people vould want to ree.

coimatted to continuous that the people vould want to ree.

of our real services and transport. that the people vould want to ree.

We will pay ?177.3 million in We will p`y ?177,3 million in

revenue support this financial year on real services in Wales.

revenue support this financial year Deutsche Bank took over

revenue support this financial year Deqtcche @ank took over the

revenue support this financial year Deutsche Bank took over the real

company, Deutsche Bank took over the real

coipany, ht Deutsche Bank took over the real

company, it agreed to pay money to company, ht agreed to p`y money to

the Welsh and UK Government. The the Gelsh and UK Governlent. The

?1.2 million they have received the Gelsh and UK Governlent. The

been invested in new rolling stock. How much did the Welsh Fovernmdnt

been invested in new rolling stock. receive from this

been invested in new rolling stock. receive fpom this deal and what

been invested in new rolling stock. receive from this deal and what was

been invested in new rolling stock. it spent on? It didn't quite work

been invested in new rolling stock. that way. Via revenue spending

been invested in new rolling stock. have

been invested in new rolling stock. hate increaced

been invested in new rolling stock. have increased -- improved real

servaces. have increased -- improved real

services. -- real. -- rail. There have increased -- improved real

has been redoubling of many has been pedoubling of lany lines.

These are all things that have has been pedoubling of lany lines.

Thase are all things that have beeN These are all things that have been

done These are all things that have been

dole in These are all things that have been

done in order to improve rail These are all things that have been

services in Wales. These are all things that have been

servaces hn Wales. With t`e services in Wales. With the railways

more oftel services in Wales. With the railways

more often than services in Wales. With the railways

more oftel dhan not it hs services in Wales. With the railways

more often than not it is a case if services in Wales. With the railways

you build it they will come. For services in Wales. With the railways

past three years the additional services in Wales. With the railways

services between Fishguard and Carmarthel

services between Fishguard and Carmarthen `ave

services between Fishguard and Carmarthen have benefited tourists

and residents. May take this an` residdnds. May take t`is

opportunity in the first place oppobtunity in the first place to

welcome the decision by the government to make the service is

welcome the decision by the permanent and as we go forward to

tha permanent and as we go forward to

the new franchise in the new fpanchisd an 2018, will the

government seek to put the new fpanchisd an 2018, will the

capacity in mid and West Wales the new fpanchisd an 2018, will the

the negotiating table? I can say the new fpanchisd an 2018, will the

that the Fishguard service will the new fpanchisd an 2018, will the

continue at least until the end of coltinue `t least until t`e end of

the current franchise in coltinue `t least until t`e end of

Additional services will begin in Ad`idional cervices will begin in

May next year on another line. Much Ad`idional cervices will begin in

of this depends on what happens with Ad`idional cervices will begin in

the franchise and whether it is to the franchice and whethdr it is to

vault or not. the franchice and whethdr it is to

vauld or lot. -- the franchice and whethdr it is to

vault or not. -- is the franchice and whethdr it is to

vauld or lot. -- is devolved the franchice and whethdr it is to

vault or not. -- is devolved or the franchice and whethdr it is to

vauld or lot. -- is devolved or not. the franchice and whethdr it is to

You mention the end of the franchice and whethdr it is to

You mention the dnd of the the franchice and whethdr it is to

franchise in 2008 Tina and the the franchice and whethdr it is to

to get the new franchise. The enterprise

to get the new franchise. The published in December the future

to get the new franchise. The the rail franchise

to get the new franchise. The tha bail dranchise which

to get the new franchise. The the rail franchise which set out the

to get the new franchise. The need for a very tight timetable to

to get the new franchise. The major that everything is placed

to get the new franchise. The before that he franchise starts.

bedobe th`t he fpanchisd starts. Are you confident that everything will

bedobe th`t he fpanchisd starts. Are be in place by 2008 team? It is

bedobe th`t he fpanchisd starts. Are vital part of the infrastructure and

if we don't get this right there is if we don get thas right there is

a danger that the current a `anger that thd current servhce.

In 2008 team, or certainly in its current form. I entirely agree. The

In 2008 team, or certainly in its gauche Asians are ongoing. It is a

In 2008 team, or certainly in its joint responsibility. The Secretary

In 2008 team, or certainly in its of State for transport is also

involved. This of State for transport is also

intolved. T`is is not entarely involved. This is not entirely

wiphan involved. This is not entirely

within thd involved. This is not entirely

within the gift of the Welsh involved. This is not entirely

Gotebnment. It needs the involved. This is not entirely

Government. It needs the agreement Govebnment. It ndeds thd agreement

at the moment of the UK Government. at t`e moment of t`e UK Governlent.

As for the period of time that it will be awarded for, but has yet

wihl be avabded dor, but `as ydt to be determined. A review has been

wihl be avabded dor, but `as ydt to commissioned examining

wihl be avabded dor, but `as ydt to coimassioled exalining thas very

wihl be avabded dor, but `as ydt to issue. It ic clearly

wihl be avabded dor, but `as ydt to issue. It is clearly important that

issue. It ic clearly important that this service continues at least

issue. It ic clearly important that this servhce continues `t least that

this service continues at least that tha level

this service continues at least that the level it is at the moment. Many

this service continues at least that of us who

this service continues at least that of uc who came

this service continues at least that of us who came here in 1999 will

remember of us who came here in 1999 will

reiember there of us who came here in 1999 will

remember there was no service. It remember there was no sdrvice. It

involves remember there was no sdrvice. It

intolves ` lengthy stop involves a lengthy stop in

Shregsbury. involves a lengthy stop in

Shrewsbury. Now we have involves a lengthy stop in

Shregsbury. Now ve have the Shrewsbury. Now we have the

situation Shrewsbury. Now we have the

sipuation w`ere Shrewsbury. Now we have the

situation where we Shrewsbury. Now we have the

sipuation w`ere we have sipuation w`ere ve have regular

services and that there is sipuation w`ere ve have regular

immense improvement from what the sipuation w`ere ve have regular

situation was like 15 years ago. sipuation w`ere ve have regular

TRANSLATION: does the First Minister sipuation w`ere ve have regular

agreed that the last franchise was disactrour

agreed that the last franchise was disastrous because of its failure to

agreed that the last franchise was insist on any growth in capacity on

Wehs` ailways? insist on any growth in capacity on

Welsh Railways? Does he agree that tha

Welsh Railways? Does he agree that the next dranchise

Welsh Railways? Does he agree that the next franchise must insist on

Welsh Railways? Does he agree that Mac growth and the only way we can

ensure that that happens is that responsibhlaty

ensure that that happens is that responsibilaty for

ensure that that happens is that responsibility for the next

franchise is devolved as part of the whole host of new powers that should

coie whole host of new powers that should

come as a result of the Scottish referendum? As I said

come as a result of the Scottish redebendul? As I said earlier, I

referendum? As I said earlier, I said it would be in favour of

referendum? As I said earlier, I ensuring that the franchise came to

the Welsh ensuring that the franchise came to

tha Welsh Government together ensuring that the franchise came to

the Welsh Government together with tha fundilg.

the Welsh Government together with the fundilg. You

the Welsh Government together with the funding. You have been posing

the Welsh Government together with quesdions about listening to the

the Welsh Government together with answers. Will the First Minister

the Welsh Government together with make a statement on the issue nf

local authorities in relation to the local authobities an relation to the

commemoration on those who have coimemoration on t`ose vho havd died

in service, with coimemoration on t`ose vho havd died

reference to war memorials? We coimemoration on t`ose vho havd died

an immense debt to them. We don't issue guidance ar a

an immense debt to them. We don't issue guidance as a government that

they can inform the Leader of the issue guidance as a government that

Opposition that aren't the war issue guidance as a government that

memorials and issue guidance as a government that

meiorials and local authorities memorials and local authorities

powers act 1923 the responsibility for war memorials rests with

powers act 1923 the responsibility for war mdmorials rests with the

for war memorials rests with the local authobities.

for war memorials rests with the local authorities. I have

local authobities. I have been dealing with the constituent whose

fiance died in sdrvice. dealing with the constituent whose

fiance died in service. She has campaign to have his name added to

tha campaign to have his name added to

the local memorial. The campaign to have his name added to

the local memorial. he local the local memorial. The local

authority, acting in good faith I behieve,

authority, acting in good faith I believe, have refused that request.

authority, acting in good faith I Local government is devolved. Local

Local government is devnlved. Local authorities are responsible for the

Local government is devnlved. Local maintenance and guidance and

maintenanbe and fuadance and governments of cenotaph is. In the

govebnments of cenotaph is. In the absence of updated advice, could I

encourage the Welsh Government to absence of updated advice, could I

enter into discussions with local auphorities

enter into discussions with local authorities and the British Legion

auphorities and the ritish Legion in providing up-to-date advice of

auphorities and the ritish Legion people like my constituent do not go

people like my constitudnt do not go through the battles they

people like my constitudnt do not go throegh the battles they `ave had

through the battles they have had to have over the last year's to get

through the battles they have had to recognition? Local authorities have

recognition? ocal authnraties have the

recognition? ocal authnraties have tha `ower

recognition? ocal authnraties have the power to maintain war memorials,

not the responsibility, but they do the power to maintain war memorials,

and so they should. I'vd the power to maintain war memorials,

and so they should. I've will look at t`is.

and so they should. I've will look at this. I will look in more

and so they should. I've will look at this situation outlined and I

and so they should. I've will look will write to him with proposals

and so they should. I've will look regabding a way

and so they should. I've will look regarding a way forward. First

regarding a way dorward. First Minister, you will be aware that

regarding a way dorward. First settlement for local government has

regarding a way dorward. First been substantially reduced over the

bean substantially redubed over the past years and that there is a

presumption that it will further prasemption that it will furthdr

increase in the ensuing years. What prasemption that it will furthdr

would you do to ensure that the war would you do to dnsure that thd war

memorials will be maintained by would you do to dnsure that thd war

local authorities where there would you do to dnsure that thd war

local authobities where there is local authorities where there is

terrafic local authorities where there is

terrific dinancial terrific financial pressures upon

tham terrific financial pressures upon

them and they will be looking at thaib

them and they will be looking at their statutory duties out

them and they will be looking at necessity? Act grants scheme has

been put in place and that necessity? Act grants scheme has

assist in terms of maintaining them acrocs

assist in terms of maintaining them across Walec.

assist in terms of maintaining them across Wales. Those grants will be

available up to a maximtm across Wales. Those grants will be

?10,000. We have ensured that the across Wales. Those grants will be

funding is available to across Wales. Those grants will be

fuldang is available to improvd anD funding is available to improve and

contained some of the funding is available to improve and

across Wales and to assist those who funding is available to improve and

want to maintain them in the funding is available to improve and

way possible. With the update us on way `ossi`le. With the tpdate ts on

Welsh way `ossi`le. With the tpdate ts on

Wehs` Govdrnment initiatives to Welsh Government initiatives to

alhog Welsh Government initiatives to

allow young people to Welsh Government initiatives to

smoke-free environments? Yes, our tobacco control

smoke-free environments? Yes, our tobacco condrol action

smoke-free environments? Yes, our tobacco control action plan includes

tobacco condrol `ction plan inbludes a number of measures to protect

a lumber nf meastres to protect children from passive smoking. We

laqnched ` children from passive smoking. We

launched a consultation children from passive smoking. We

laqnched ` consultation in SeptembEr children from passive smoking. We

two prohibits smoking on enclosed private vdhacles

two prohibits smoking on enclosed private vehicles were

two prohibits smoking on enclosed private vdhacles were children are

I welcome the news that a being carpied.

I welcome the news that a consultation has been

I welcome the news that a conseltation has been started. Like

consultation has been started. Like tha

consultation has been started. Like the British Lung foundation which

consultation has been started. Like has campaigned long and hard on this

issue, I am happy to see it so high issue, I `m happx to see at so high

on the agenda. You consider that a fine of ?50 is sufficient and can

on the agenda. You consider that a you give ascurances

on the agenda. You consider that a you give assurances that if the

you give `scuranbes that af thd bank goes ahead it will be introduced

you give `scuranbes that af thd bank soon as practicable as one in ten

children `re soon as practicable as one in ten

children are still being exposed to soon as practicable as one in ten

smoke while travelling in cars? I soon as practicable as one in ten

thank the member. Our view is that a soon as practicable as one in ten

?50 is an acceptable level of fine. That is a level of fine that is the

?50 is an acceptable level of fine. same for smoking in a public vehicle

same for rmoking in a ptblic vdhicle and whilst this is out to

consultation that is the proposed and whilst this is out to

level at the moment. and whilst this is out to

level at the momdnt. I can see and whilst this is out to

the proposed mega- bash legislation the `roposed meg`- bash legislation

will come to force in 2015. Most the `roposed meg`- bash legislation

members are keen to the `roposed meg`- bash legislation

members ape keen to enstre the `roposed meg`- bash legislation

members are keen to ensure it will pass. I also welcome the proposed

ban on smnking pass. I also welcome the proposed

ban on smoking in cars with bal on smnkang il cars vith

children. It is something I think bal on smnkang il cars vith

the Welsh Government should have got tha Gelsh Governlent shnuld have got

on with some time ago. It isn't the tha Gelsh Governlent shnuld have got

silver bullet to protecting tha Gelsh Governlent shnuld have got

people from smoking. There are other people from smokhng. Thdre are other

measures the people from smokhng. Thdre are other

measeres the government people from smokhng. Thdre are other

measures the government has to take. people from smokhng. Thdre are other

Can you people from smokhng. Thdre are other

Cal qou outline some people from smokhng. Thdre are other

Can you outline some of the other measures? You will be familiar with

the Tobacco control strategy especially with the smoke-free

the Tobacco control strategy playground project. Local

the Tobacco control strategy authorities have implemented

the Tobacco control strategy We have the Welsh network of healthy

the Tobacco control strategy schools schemes award. That means

the Tobacco control strategy that school playgrounds

the Tobacco control strategy smoke-free. In the Public health

White Paper itself there are White Papdr itself there are

proposals to ban smoking in proposals to ban smokinf an certain

non-enclosed proposals to ban smokinf an certain

are some examples of the process for tha

are some examples of the process for the future. What evidence does the

govebnment the future. What evidence does the

government have the future. What evidence does the

gotebnment `ave nf the future. What evidence does the

government have of the success of the future. What evidence does the

campaigns to persuade young people campaigns to persuade ynung people

not ctart smoking? I campaigns to persuade ynung people

not start smoking? I saw that the not ctart smokinf? I sav that the

numbers of young people who start not ctart smokinf? I sav that the

smoking is falling. It is not ctart smokinf? I sav that the

smokang is fallilg. It hs important not ctart smokinf? I sav that the

we stop them smoking quicker than be not ctart smokinf? I sav that the

the moment. But we hope that we will be able to back the Trent. Were the

the moment. But we hope that we will Fipsd Minisder m`ke a

the moment. But we hope that we will First Minister make a statement on

the protection of school playing First Minister make a statement on

fields. The use of First Minister make a statement on

fields is a matter for individual local authorities. Ministers have no

fields is a matter for individual role in this. There is no power for

ministers to intervene. Local milicters to intervene. Local

authorities have to have milicters to intervene. Local

authorities have to havd regard milicters to intervene. Local

authorities have to have regard to milicters to intervene. Local

the school milicters to intervene. Local

the cchool `remises the school premises regulations

1999. They require minimum areas the school premises regulations

team game playing fields must be provided

team game playing fields must be provaded dob

team game playing fields must be provided for schools with

team game playing fields must be provaded dob schools with pupils

provided for schools with pupils agad eight

provided for schools with pupils aged eight qears old and

provided for schools with pupils aged eight years old and over. You

may be aware that the people of aged eight years old and over. You

Ponthir belies have risen up against aged eight years old and over. You

the council to ensure that the aged eight years old and over. You

shambolic plans to sell school feels is dropped. Will you intervene

is dbopped. Will you intervene personally to make sure Swansea

rephank personally to make sure Swansea

rephink thear personally to make sure Swansea

rethink their plans to personally to make sure Swansea

rephink thear plans to rell off part rethink their plans to sell off part

of the playing fields such as Pontarddulaas

of the playing fields such as Pontarddulais remedies go. I

recommend this isn't a ignored as Pontarddulais remedies go. I

the Pontarddulais remedies go. I

tha ctrenfth of feeling is strong the strength of feeling is strong

an` the strength of feeling is strong

and `as cosd the leader and the strength of feeling is strong

members their jobs on the council. the strength of feeling is strong

members thear jo`s on the counbil. I members their jobs on the council. I

am aware of the strength of feeling. am agare nf the rtrength of feeling.

I trust am agare nf the rtrength of feeling.

I prust Swansea council will am agare nf the rtrength of feeling.

consider the am agare nf the rtrength of feeling.

colsader the strength of feeling consider the strength of feeling

whan consider the strength of feeling

when they take thear final consider the strength of feeling

when they take their final decision. Thare

when they take their final decision. There are no powers by linisters to

There are no powers by ministers to inpebvene,

There are no powers by ministers to intervene, that will

There are no powers by ministers to legislation and that isn't going to

happen before the final decision happen bedobe thd final decision is

taken. I understand that the taken. I tnderstand that the

council's carried out a consultation, a report

council's carried out a to the Cabinet over the next

council's carried out a to t`e Ca`inet over the next few

to the Cabinet over the next few mont`s.

to the Cabinet over the next few months. But as I said, we do expect

to the Cabinet over the next few the begulataons rhould

to the Cabinet over the next few the regulations should be adhered to

whan the regulations should be adhered to

when any decision is made. First the regulations should be adhered to

Minister, do you could either the regulations should be adhered to

differences between playing field that I used and surplus land around

the schools, the local authorities nead

the schools, the local authorities need to grade their money.

the schools, the local authorities need to gpade thdir money. Can I

need to grade their money. Can I urge anyone who wants to stop land

being visit to schools in urge anyone who wants to stop land

constituency. How can local urge anyone who wants to stop land

authorities raise the money to auphorities raisd the mnney to

replace buildings that are out auphorities raisd the mnney to

dape? It auphorities raisd the mnney to

date? It is a difficult balance. dape? t hs a didfacult balance.

There will be discussions around what is surplus land

There will be discussions around what is str`lus land and what

There will be discussions around what is surplus land and what is the

There will be discussions around school playing field. Swansea

coqncil musd school playing field. Swansea

council must weigh these matters, I school playing field. Swansea

am sure they will, even the worst consaderilg

am sure they will, even the worst colsaderilg the pegulations

am sure they will, even the worst coming to a decision having

conselted coming to a decision having

consulted with the people of coming to a decision having

Pontarddulais. First Minister, in December 2012, a

Pontarddulais. First Minister, in December 00!2, a private

Pontarddulais. First Minister, in December 2012, a private members

December 00!2, a private members bill on the playing fields was

December 00!2, a private members Royal assent. It hasn't yet been

December 00!2, a private members implemented. This could

December 00!2, a private members implemented. his could have

implemented. This could have prevented the debates that is going

on in Swansea where playing prevented the debates that is going

ara being sold prevented the debates that is going

are being sold off in future stop prevented the debates that is going

only this year the government can onhy this year the government ban

bus consulted on the regulation. There was a discussion on this issue

Thare was a discussion nn this issue in 2011 in terms of pressing ahead

wiph in 2011 in terms of pressing ahead

with a consultation, why has this in 2011 in terms of pressing ahead

legislation in 2011 in terms of pressing ahead

legiclation been so in 2011 in terms of pressing ahead

legislation been so low on your political agenda bearing in mind

polidical agenda bearinf an mind there are other councils who want to

sell off playing fields? You have two decide what is a playing field

two decidd ghat hs a playang field and what is land that has no

two decidd ghat hs a playang field and ghat is land t`at has no furthEr

and ghat hs land t`at h`s no further use. I dol'd

and ghat hs land t`at h`s no further use. I don't know the detail at

Pontarddulaas, use. I don't know the detail at

Pontarddulais, I don't know enough aboud the situation.

Pontarddulais, I don't know enough about the situation. There are

Pontarddulais, I don't know enough decorations in place and we would

Pontarddulais, I don't know enough expect the local

Pontarddulais, I don't know enough follow those regulations before

follow thnse regtlationr before coming to a decision so it is

important is the council consider coming to a decision so it is

that. The programme into which the sell-off of fields in

that. The programme into which the primary school are proposed is a

primary sbhool ape propnsed is a sell-off

primary sbhool ape propnsed is a sehl-off of

primary sbhool ape propnsed is a sell-off of the surplus land. In the

case of Pondarddulais sell-off of the surplus land. In the

case of Pontarddulais they case of Pondarddtlais theq havd

included half case of Pondarddtlais theq havd

incleded half the case of Pondarddtlais theq havd

included half the rugby case of Pondarddtlais theq havd

incleded half the rugby pitch which included half the rugby pitch which

is w`ere included half the rugby pitch which

is where residents are included half the rugby pitch which

it. Can I ask included half the rugby pitch which

it, Can I ask you, included half the rugby pitch which

it. Can I ask you, in respect to the included half the rugby pitch which

point Gethin Jenkins has made, is poind ethin enjins har made, is

the government is proposing poind ethin enjins har made, is

commence that measure any time in fupube.

commence that measure any time in future. -- Bethan Jenkins. I

fupube. -- Bethal Benkins. I will write to the member and the

fupube. -- Bethal Benkins. I will Cymru member and I will provide

Cymru membeb and I will providd information on be current situation

infobmation on bd current situ`tion is and the proposed way forward.

is and thd `roposed way forward. Questionable

is and thd `roposed way forward. Quasdiona`le sevdn.

is and thd `roposed way forward. Questionable seven. What discussions

has the Fhrct Questionable seven. What discussions

has the First Minister had about the implacationc

has the First Minister had about the implications for Wales of the

proposed transatlantic trade and invectment `artndrship. Gaven the

investment partnership. Given the significance

investment partnership. Given the signaficalce of

investment partnership. Given the significance of trade it is

investment partnership. Given the important that a balance is struck.

investment partnership. Given the We need to protect the investors and

We need to `rotect the hnvestors and we need to keep the public --

We need to `rotect the hnvestors and services public. I would

We need to `rotect the hnvestors and sepvaces public. I would not stpport

services public. I would not support any treaty that reporters in

services public. I would not support position of beinf

services public. I would not support position of being unable to

services public. I would not support tha Welsh

services public. I would not support the Welsh NHS. We are assured by the

UK Governlent the Welsh NHS. We are assured by the

UK Government that will not be the UK Governlent th`t will not be the

case but it is worth repeating the Wehs`

case but it is worth repeating the Welsh governors's view. The European

case but it is worth repeating the Commission president has

Coimassion `resident har tried to reassure people you will not

Coimassion `resident har tried to sacrifice your's

Coimassion `resident har tried to sacrafice your's safety,

Coimassion `resident har tried to sacrifice your's safety, health, the

Coimassion `resident har tried to detection standards on

Coimassion `resident har tried to depection sdandapds on the altar of

Coimassion `resident har tried to free trade. In its present guise,

Coimassion `resident har tried to would not be the case that

multinationals would not be the case that

multanationals could sud would not be the case that

multinationals could sue elected govebnments

multinationals could sue elected gotebnments for doing

multinationals could sue elected governments for doing anything that

was put their profits at risk. Just like the referendum on Thursday, it

was put their profits at risk. Just will be a forever decision for

was put their profits at risk. Just Scottish people, you TTIP could be a

forefer Scottish people, you TTIP could be a

forever decision which could make it impocsible

forever decision which could make it impossible to defend the NHS from

forever decision which could make it privatisation. It is the view of the

UK Governlent privatisation. It is the view of the

UK Government that would not UK Governlent th`t would not h`ppen.

It is for them to express that view an` to

It is for them to express that view and to defend

It is for them to express that view an` to dedend it. What

It is for them to express that view and to defend it. What I can see in

termc and to defend it. What I can see in

tepms of and to defend it. What I can see in

terms of the Welsh Government is and to defend it. What I can see in

would not support any treaty that would force any government anywhere

woqld force any fovernmdnt anyvhere in the UK to privatise

in the UK to pritatise rervices. Public services should be kept

publac Public services should be kept

public and under no circumstances Public services should be kept

should there be any Public services should be kept

should thdre be `ny pressure on should thdre be `nq pressure on

anyone to remove them from should thdre be `nq pressure on

sphere. I should thdre be `nq pressure on

sphebe. I understand thd EU trade Commissioner has confirmed

Coimissioleb has confirmed that public services are exempted.

publac sepvaces `re exempted. The First Minister will know

publac sepvaces `re exempted. The European Commissioner has said it

Eupo`ean Bommisshoner h`s said it will take

Eupo`ean Bommisshoner h`s said it Should this come to fruition, it

Eupo`ean Bommisshoner h`s said it will boost UK trade by ?10 million a

Eupo`ean Bommisshoner h`s said it year. I welcome the words

Eupo`ean Bommisshoner h`s said it commission. That is important that

Eupo`ean Bommisshoner h`s said it it is important the commission

it is impnrdant the comlission ensures that message is heard loud

an` ensures that message is heard loud

and clear by the European Court of justice. It may take a different

and clear by the European Court of viaw. The

and clear by the European Court of view. The more that is emphasised

and clear by the European Court of and reiterated by the commission

an` beitepaded bx the commission itself the easier it will be for

itself thd easiep at will be for governments to keep public services

govebnments to kdep public services or brick. As part of these

govebnments to kdep public services negotiations, US senators have

govebnments to kdep public services called foreign and European

called fopeign ald European specialist product definitions

called fopeign ald European specaalist `rodubt definitiOns which

called fopeign ald European is a mark of quality for SCA in

relation is a mark of quality for SCA in

rehadion to is a mark of quality for SCA in

relation to Welsh lamb, Welsh beef reladion to Welsh lamb, Welsh beef

and produce. reladion to Welsh lamb, Welsh beef

and prodube. It reladion to Welsh lamb, Welsh beef

and produce. It has banned an` `rodube. t has banned hormone

treated beef from the US. But the an` `rodube. t has banned hormone

TTIP means these bands could be lifted. The outcome of the

discessiols lifted. The outcome of the

discussions could be detrimental to the food sector in

discussions could be detrimental to tha food rector hn Wales. Could

discussions could be detrimental to the food sector in Wales. Could you

discussions could be detrimental to please specific as to

discussions could be detrimental to pleace specafic as to how the

please specific as to how the govebnment

please specific as to how the goternment is ensuring

please specific as to how the government is ensuring those

please specific as to how the goternment is ensuring those vhews

please specific as to how the are being represented? They are

please specific as to how the important

please specific as to how the impobtant for

please specific as to how the important for us. We are ensuring

please specific as to how the Wales's views are heard. I

please specific as to how the Wahes's vhegs are `eard. A can

please specific as to how the Wales's views are heard. I can say

please specific as to how the with regard to food standards, the

please specific as to how the TTIP is not designed to undermine

TTIP is nnt designed to undermhne food standabds

TTIP is nnt designed to undermhne food standards that exist within

TTIP is nnt designed to undermhne European Union. It'll still be the

case that anyone who wishes to expobted

case that anyone who wishes to exported European Union will have to

case that anyone who wishes to meet the European Union's food

meat the Dubopeal Union food standards and that is clarification

standards and th`t is clarification I accept. Whether First Minister

make a statement on early years support for disadvantaged children

un`eb the support for disadvantaged children

under the age of support for disadvantaged children

un`eb the age of fave. support for disadvantaged children

under the age of five. We know this is eptremdlq

under the age of five. We know this is extremely important and last

under the age of five. We know this summer we had early

under the age of five. We know this childcare plan was published a setup

under the age of five. We know this a significant actions have taken to

dape. a significant actions have taken to

steps that have been taken a significant actions have taken to

stepc that have `een tajen but of steps that have been taken but of

coqrce steps that have been taken but of

course thd EK steps that have been taken but of

course the UK Government in March of steps that have been taken but of

this year extended the provision this year eptenddd the provision

from the point of view of pupil premium to

from the point of view of pupil premaum to dhe children

from the point of view of pupil premium to the children aged

from the point of view of pupil premaum to dhe children aged under

premium to the children aged under five, your government have stated

fite, youp goverlment h`ve stated you are not willing to consider

yoq are nnt willing to bonsider doing that. But will

doing that. But vill you are nnt willing to consider doing that. But

we are viewed during your willing to consider doing that. But

discussiols on the budget discussions on the budget ensure

that you do look at the benefits for three and four-year-olds within the

education system if that kind three and four-year-olds within the

edqcation system if that cind nf three and four-year-olds within the

provision is extended. We are more than willing to consider any scheme

that will assist children, than willing to consider any scheme

particularly children than willing to consider any scheme

paptaculaplq children under five than willing to consider any scheme

years of age and I am sure than willing to consider any scheme

something that will than willing to consider any scheme

the coming months. than willing to consider any scheme

the cominf months. First Minister, tha cominf monthr. First Minister,

according to the index of muhta-deppifatiol,

according to the index of multi-deprivation, a ward in Conwy

has "0% of children livhng multi-deprivation, a ward in Conwy

has 20% of children living in the hirec povdrdy

has 20% of children living in the hires poverty levels.

has 20% of children living in the hires povdrdy levels. --

has 20% of children living in the hires poverty levels. -- highest.

Whilct we hires poverty levels. -- highest.

Whilst we commend the work of homes starding Bonwy, ` fantartac support

network, they add only able to starding Bonwy, ` fantartac support

support 70 families per year. What starding Bonwy, ` fantartac support

are you doing to actually support starding Bonwy, ` fantartac support

those families who are not able starding Bonwy, ` fantartac support

access this much-needed starding Bonwy, ` fantartac support

accecs this much,needed support? starding Bonwy, ` fantartac support

If you look at the suppnrt starding Bonwy, ` fantartac support

If you look at the support available If you look at the suppnrt avahlable

through If you look at the suppnrt avahlable

start, we have a good record of giving

start, we have a good record of giting asrictance to

start, we have a good record of giving assistance to those

start, we have a good record of communities that need it most with a

viaw communities that need it most with a

view to ensuring they grow and pros`er

view to ensuring they grow and prosper in the future. That is why

we have seen so many communities we have sden so lany communities

being able to we have sden so lany communities

being able do provide opportunities being able to provide opportunities

for being able to provide opportunities

fop dhe being able to provide opportunities

for the people who live being able to provide opportunities

fop dhe people who live there. being able to provide opportunities

Kirsten and nine. Kipsden ald nine,

Will the First Minister make Kipsden ald nine,

statement on the provision of eye statement on the provishon of dye

care services in Wales. Our eye cape servhces in Wales. Our eyd

health care delivery cape servhces in Wales. Our eyd

the government is to cape servhces in Wales. Our eyd

tha government is to improving eye cape servhces in Wales. Our eyd

health. Thank you for that. A cape servhces in Wales. Our eyd

constituent in cape servhces in Wales. Our eyd

colstituelt in my cape servhces in Wales. Our eyd

constituent in my region experienced a marked dederiopation

constituent in my region experienced a marked deterioration in her sights

constituent in my region experienced when her pegular

constituent in my region experienced when her regular eye care treatment

was cancelled dud to staff shortages at a local hospital and the service

was cancelled dud to staff shortages was suspended. Alternative

was cancelled dud to staff shortages was eventually found but because of

tha dime was eventually found but because of

the time taken to do that was eventually found but because of

deterioration, is permanent. Would was eventually found but because of

you agree this is an acceptable and what action with your government

take to ensure eyecare services and what action with your government

improved or what action with your government

improved nr can what action with your government

improved or can we expect more what action with your government

specialist services what action with your government

spacialist cervices to what action with your government

specialist services to shut down to what action with your government

staff shortages? staff shoptages? Have bden problems

at this hospital with an staff shoptages? Have bden problems

unprecedented levels of sickness. staff shoptages? Have bden problems

But what is being done about But what is being done about it? The

Bup ghat hs beinf done `bout it? THe But what is being done about it? The

local health board held a But what is being done about it? The

local healt` board held a meeting in local health board held a meeting in

November. Patient should see a marked improvement in access to

November. Patient should see a services. The health

November. Patient should see a advised the hospital has reduced the

adticed the hosphtal har reduced the number

adticed the hosphtal har reduced the nuiber of

adticed the hosphtal har reduced the number of backlog. The intent in

adticed the hosphtal har reduced the to treat the rest of the patients as

to tbeat the rest of thd patients as soon as pnscible,

From all others on the programme goodbye.

Luckily, they have They just keep on coming.