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Hello and welcome to The Conference.

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Whether you're watching

on BBC Two Northern Ireland

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or on the Parliament Channel,

we're very pleased you

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could join us today.

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Hundreds of DUP delegates have once

again descended on the La Mon Hotel

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just outside Belfast and it seems

this year they've been joined

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by countless journalists as press

interest in the party has risen

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after its confidence-and-supply

deal with the Tories.

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Right now the room is bracing

itself for the arrival

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of the party leader,

Arlene Foster, who has had

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quite a year at the helm.

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She will be closing the conference

with her speech shortly which we'll

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bring you live and in full.

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Mrs Foster's deputy, Nigel Dodds,

has already addressed the party

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faithful and we'll hear a little

of what he had to say

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later in the programme.

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I'll also be talking

to our Political Editor,

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Mark Devenport, who is there for us.

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But first I'm joined in the studio

by Professor Rick Wilford

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from Queen's University.

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Rick, it's been a roller-coaster

year for Arlene Foster.

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What's the challenge

facing her today?

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Massive challenge. A year ago we had

devolution, now we don't. This is a

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party that over the years has moved

from the wings to centre stage. So I

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think she has got to pitch her

speech not just at a par rockical or

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local level, but address the

national platform because the party

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is in a strategic position at

Westminster. So we don't want too

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much introversion, she has been

rather extrovert as well in looking

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at what she thinks the DUP maybe

able to do, not just for Northern

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Ireland, but also as it were for the

wider United Kingdom.

She has got a

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lot of issues, I suppose, she will

want to touch on in the speech, not

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least the attempts to breathe new

life into devolution at Stormont and

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that doesn't seem to be going very

well at the moment. She has the

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challenge of Brexit. She has got the

continuing relationship with the

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Conservative Party in Westminster

and the difficult relationship

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obviously with both Sinn Fein and

the Republic of Ireland government?

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Indeed. On the latter, it became in

relation to the Irish Government,

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that relationship has become, I

think, slightly more prickly over

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the last few days and of course, we

don't yet know, we won't know until

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Tuesday whether there is going to be

a general election in the south and

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that could signal a significant

change if and when that does happen.

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I suspect myself that actually they

might avoid an election before the

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Christmas. She has a lot of balls to

juggle. Theresa May, earlier in the

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week, talked about encouraging Sinn

Fein and the DUP to rejoin talks

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next week. Now, we've heard nothing

concrete about that. Maybe she will

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have something to say during the

course of heifer speech this

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afternoon so we will get some

indication of whether there is some

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fresh life as it were being breathed

into what to date has been faltering

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talks.

Let's bring in our political editor,

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Mark Devenport who is at the

conference venue. Mark, a big day, a

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big challenge?

Yes, it has been a

topsy-turvy year for Arlene Foster.

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She will no doubt be accentuating

the good and playing down the bad.

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They had a difficult Assembly

election in March when unionism lost

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its majority at Stormont. They had a

better time in June when they got

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the extraordinary position holding

the balance of power at Westminster.

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I think whilst she will say, look,

it is good to have this influence

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over issues like Brexit, it is good

to have influence over the

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Conservatives, the DUP are still a

part of devolution and they believe

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they can't complete their job unless

they get Stormont back up and

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running.

Do you think that we'll

hear particular insights from Arlene

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Foster today on issues like the

Brexit challenge, like the attempts

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to restore devolution at Stormont?

Do you think we will get specifics?

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Well, I'm not sure that it will be

that specific. She won't be giving

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too much away. We know and I expect

her to say that the con stintant DUP

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line has been there should be no

internal borders within the UK when

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it comes to Brexit. That's been

praeted already by the Dodds, Diane,

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the MEP and Nigel the deputy leader

and I expect Arlene Foster to follow

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that line as well. In relation to

the talks, I think, she will be

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saying that she wants to get

Stormont back up and running as I

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say, and maybe going into a little

bit more detail about the Irish

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language, without completely giving

away what kind of compromise

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proposals they have been working on

with Sinn Fein to allow for

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legislation that would cover the

Irish language.

Mark, thank you very

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much indeed. Arlene Foster has

appeared on stage. Just a moment

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earlier perhaps than we had

expected. She takes the applause of

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party delegates. She is about to

give a critical speech from her

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prospective as leader of the party.

Lots of challenges in her in-tray.

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You can see the warmth of the

welcome. No great surprise that the

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party faithful are there and waving

lots of Union Flags and Ulster

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flags, Northern Ireland flags, and

very haven't seen her up to now. A

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curtsy from Arlene Foster. Anyway,

let's hear what she has to say.

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APPLAUSE

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Thank you. Thank you, colleagues.

Thank you.

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APPLAUSE

Mr Chairman, colleagues, members, my

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friends, thank you, thank you so

much for that warm welcome. I am

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deeply honoured to stand before you

today as the leader of this great

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party.

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A party that leads unionism, a party

that is the voice of Northern

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Ireland and a party that is proudly

at the centre of the politics of our

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United Kingdom. I counted an honour

to be your leader as we embark on a

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new phase of the history of our

party. The conference takes place

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against the backdrop in an

unprecedented interest in the

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Democratic Unionist Party from

across the United Kingdom and I want

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to welcome and thank our many

friends and allies who have joined

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with us during our weekend events,

but most of all, I want to express

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my deep appreciation to you, our

members, for your support over the

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last 12 months.

Because the Democratic Unionist

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Party is not like other political

parties. What marks us out is the

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dedication, the loyalty, and

faithfulness of you, our members.

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So, today, from the bottom of my

heart, I say thank you. If the last

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year has proved anything, it is that

we live in an uncertain world. We've

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been through a lot together over

this past 12 months. When last, we

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gathered, no one could have fore

seen in four months' time we would

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be fighting an Assembly election and

it was a tough election. We lost

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good and faithful public servants

and I want to pay tribute to and say

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thank you to Maurice, Nelson,

Brenda, Adrian and Philip.

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APPLAUSE

Now, that election was a wake-up

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call for unionists. We warned that

republicans were cynically seeking

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to exploit the election as an

opportunity to close the gap on

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unionism. Many didn't believe our

warnings. They said we were

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scaremongering. However, Sinn Fein

came within one seat and 1200 votes

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of becoming Northern Ireland's

largest party. Now, thankfully the

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unionist electorate didn't have to

wait years for an opportunity to

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register support for our precious

union. The snap general election

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provided such a platform within just

three months. And I want to thank

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the nearly 300,000 people who

rallied to our banner in June.

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APPLAUSE

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Not only did their votes help us to

emphatically return all of our

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existing members of Parliament, they

also won back South Antrim.

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APPLAUSE

And, and, they returned the South

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Belfast seat to the unionist fold

for the first time in 12 years.

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APPLAUSE

Emma, and Paul's excellent victories

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further strengthen our team at

Westminster, so brilliantly led by

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Nigel...

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At such a crucial time in our

nation's history. We are truly

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fortunate that our Parliamentary

party is led by someone as trusted

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as and as able sz Nigel Dodds.

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And I want to again very publicly

acknowledge and thank Nigel for the

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support he has given to me. He is a

steadfast and loyal deputy leader

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and his service to this party and to

our country cannot be overstated.

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Now we all worked for the success,

but to return the highest number of

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MPs in our history, to register the

largest percentage share of the vote

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ever for our party, and to record

the biggest vote of any party since

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1985 was an astounding achievement.

The people proved that more votes,

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means more seats which means more

influence. Your efforts, knocking

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doors, delivering leaflets and

putting up posters all added up to

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almost 300,000 votes and together

you all helped to make history. And

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that momentous result put our party

in an unparallel position at

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Westminster. Now, for our part, we

made it clear that our priority was

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to help bring stability to our

nation. Do you remember how some

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said that the DUP would push a

narrow agenda in our negotiations?

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Well, what we secured was for

everyone across Northern Ireland.

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APPLAUSE

Not narrow and not sectional, but a

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deal that benefits all of the people

of Northern Ireland. And it wasn't

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just an agreement about Northern

Ireland, we have ensured that

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pensioners in every part of our

kingdom will have the security of

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knowing that the triple-lock on

pensions is safe and that the Winter

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Fuel Payment will remain universal.

We are the party for Northern

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Ireland, but our unionism doesn't

end at the Irish Sea. We will always

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fight hard for the best deal for

Northern Ireland, but we care about

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vulnerable people in Bristol and

Birmingham, every bit as much as

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those in Belfast. That, of course,

is the very essence of our unionism,

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whether English, Scottish, Welsh or

Northern Irish, we aren't

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competitors or rivals in this United

Kingdom, we are bound together as

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one, stronger together than apart.

And it is...

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APPLAUSE

It is an honour underpinned with a

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solemn responsibility to be able to

help bring stability to our United

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Kingdom in these challenging times

and we do it seized with an abiding

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sense of duty to the national

interest. Now we will avail of every

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opportunity now and in the future to

advance the union as a whole, and

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Northern Ireland's place within it.

Securing support for our pensioners,

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at determination to support our

Armed Forces and a commitment to

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maintain the same cash support for

farmers until 2022, are

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illustrations of what we mean when

we say we will help shape policies

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in the national interest. We will

bring that same philosophy of doing

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what's in our nation's best

interests to the other challenges

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that the United Kingdom will face

over the course of the current

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Parliament. Now, there is no doubt

that delivering on the decision of

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the people of the United Kingdom to

leave the European Union is perhaps

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the most substantial and complex

process the Government and

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Parliament has under taken in the

modern political era. From the UK's

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entry to the old European Community,

to the failure of member states to

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agree to reform the European Union,

this party has been consistently

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sceptical about Brussels. Now, much

has been said about Brexit.

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Listening to some quarters you would

be forgiven that life as we know it

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will end. But during the referendum

campaign and ever since some of

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those who advocated Remain have

argued that the UK's departure from

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the European Union will result in a

hard border on the island of

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Ireland. Now, I said from this

platform, 12 months ago, that no one

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wishes that to be the case. We want

our border to remain open for people

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to move freely, north and south, for

work, for education, and as

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tourists. We want to see continued

trading across the border in the

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economic interests of our two

countries.

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I also said that any exit deal must

recognise reality of our geography

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and history and not for us, we

wanted to get the best deal for

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Northern Ireland and the United

Kingdom as a whole. We want a

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sensible Brexit. That works for

Northern Ireland and for the United

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Kingdom. However, we will not

support any arrangements that create

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barriers to trade between Northern

Ireland and the rest of the UK. Or

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any suggestion that Northern

Ireland, unlike the rest of the UK,

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will have to mirror European

regulations. I have written to the

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Heads of Government Conference of

the EU 27 member states setting out

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our views and Diane Dodds will

continue her work in Brussels in the

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coming days to reinforce our

position. The economic reality for

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our economy is that our most

important trading relationship is

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with the rest of the UK and we will

do nothing that puts that at risk in

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any way. And we welcome the

assurances from our Prime Minister

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and the UK Brexit team that no such

internal barriers will be

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countenanced and as we join the then

European Community as one nation, we

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believe as one United Kingdom.

APPLAUSE.

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-- we will leave.

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The general election provided

unionism with the perfect

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opportunity to bounce back. But we

have no intention of resting on our

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laurels are taking success for

granted. Our mission is to secure

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Northern Ireland 's place within the

union. Our mission is to make

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Northern Ireland as good as we know

it can be. And our mission is to

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make life better for all of our

people. I am a unionist by

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conviction and unashamedly so. I

believe the union is the best basis

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upon which we can build a peaceful

and prosperous society in Northern

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Ireland. Regardless of some of the

propaganda, the truth is, the union

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is secure and no matter how many

times we are told that the North is

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not British, Northern Ireland is

British and will remain British!

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APPLAUSE.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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I was motivated to enter public life

necessity because of my desire to

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protect and preserve our place

within the United Kingdom but

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defending the union is not our only

child. We are also charged with the

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crucial task of advancing our vision

for Northern Ireland. And perhaps

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precisely because in the past years

we have had to guard against those

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who would destroy the union, we have

not always spent sufficient time

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spelling out that positive vision.

We need to spend more time outlining

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the count of Northern Ireland we

want to see flourish and why at is

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best advanced through being part of

the union. But the country is

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nothing without its people. A

society's real strength is not

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generated by GDP but by its people.

And I never cease to be astounded by

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the exceptional nature of our

people. Northern Ireland is too

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often characterised by what divides

us. But I am always amazed by how so

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many of the people I meet might have

very different life experiences but

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almost all shared the same Northern

Ireland values. They are humble, as

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they are hard-working. They are

deeply devoted to their families.

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They believe in personal

responsibility but they will not be

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found wanting whenever a neighbour

is in need. They possess compassion

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for those who are less well off, no

matter where in the world they live,

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and they have a pride in our country

and the achievements of all of our

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people. But what I believe sets us

apart, what marks us out as special

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and what gives us the real edge over

others is the spirit of never giving

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up. It is embedded deep in our DNA.

We experienced adversity yet face at

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down. And through all of the tough

times of the Troubles, our people

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never stopped believing in the

promise and potential of Northern

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Ireland. And we owe it to the

generation that came through the

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Troubles and maybe even more so to

those generations that follow to

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fulfil that promise and potential.

Northern Ireland people want their

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children and their grandchildren to

do better than them. To realise

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their dreams and enjoy life in ways

that from maybe denied to them. And

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everywhere I go, I see that real

sense of ambition. That same sense

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of aspiring to be all that you can

be was ingrained in me from a very

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early age. My mother and father

instilled in me that believe that

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the only barrier to becoming

whatever I wanted to be was myself.

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So that desire to inspire the next

generation is as strong today as it

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was when I was growing up. It is

exactly that desire to not only

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ensure that Northern Ireland is a

better place to live than it was and

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I was growing up, but that we are

still to the next generation and

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Northern Ireland where they can get

a job, afford a home, raise a family

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and live their lives to the full.

And that is the of this party. That

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is why we are the people's party,

the party that puts people first.

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The party that prioritises

attracting jobs and investment and

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improving the health services and

our schools and housing and

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infrastructure so that all of our

people can live better lives. We

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either party for people trying but

finding it difficult to get their

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foot onto the property ladder for

the first time. For young families

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who find the cost of childcare a

barrier to working. For the

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pensioner who has worked hard all

their life and just wants a

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retirement free from worry and who

will look after them and how it will

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be paid for. For the small business

owner who finds their ability to

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grow and create more jobs stifled by

unnecessary bureaucracy and red

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tape. They are the people we serve.

They are the people that motivate me

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to keep moving forward. In

everything we do, in everything we

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say, and in everything we try to

achieve as a party, we must be the

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party the people.

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Most people do not want or expect

their government to do everything

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but what they do demand is that

their government put the taxes they

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pay to good use and deliver the sort

of services they, their families and

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community need to enjoy a good life.

The government's only job is to

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serve the people. It is there to

protect people, provide the

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vulnerable with a safety net and act

when and where the markets fail to

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serve the people properly. Our

mission is to do all that we can to

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make life a little bit easier for

people who get up early in the

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morning, get their kids to school

and do a hard day's work. Our

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mission is absolutely about

affirming our British identity.

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Upholding the constitutional status

of Northern Ireland as an integral

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part of the United Kingdom. But our

mission is also about ensuring that

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people all across the UK can have a

good life also. I want everyone in

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Northern Ireland, regardless of

whether they are unionist or

0:23:190:23:22

nationalist or don't consider

themselves either, to ensure a good

0:23:220:23:26

quality of life and to be able to

pass on to the next generation a

0:23:260:23:31

better Northern Ireland, filled with

opportunities for all. I know it is

0:23:310:23:36

popular to bash Stormont and

criticised evolution. You may have

0:23:360:23:38

noticed that! But to say it has

delivered nothing is not true. The

0:23:380:23:46

truth is that during our devolved

government, whilst far from perfect,

0:23:460:23:51

there were record levels of inward

investment, scores of new schools

0:23:510:23:55

built and miles of new roads

constructed and hundreds of millions

0:23:550:23:59

more spent on health. And while we

have more influence than ever before

0:23:590:24:06

at Westminster, we also want to see

our local institutions functioning

0:24:060:24:10

and delivering for the people of

Northern Ireland. Making our mission

0:24:100:24:14

reality is best achieved by getting

the Assembly and Executive back

0:24:140:24:20

doing what the people elected us to

do. That is why we should have

0:24:200:24:24

established the Executive eight

months ago. Without any

0:24:240:24:29

preconditions.

APPLAUSE.

0:24:290:24:39

Because we would have got the

government going again whilst

0:24:400:24:43

dealing with the issues of language

and culture in parallel but such a

0:24:430:24:48

pragmatic approach was rejected by

the heavy Brigade in Sinn Fein. That

0:24:480:24:52

should not surprise us. Let us not

forget how Sinn Fein stopped the

0:24:520:24:58

Executive from meeting for almost

one year over policing and justice.

0:24:580:25:03

Or how they allowed over £150

million to be lost as they delayed

0:25:030:25:08

the limitation of welfare reforms

that in the end they largely agree

0:25:080:25:11

to. They walked away from office

earlier this year knowing what that

0:25:110:25:16

would mean for public services and

the hurt and harm it would cause to

0:25:160:25:22

hard-working people. They protest

against health cuts yet held that

0:25:220:25:29

very portfolio in the last Executive

where they would have been able to

0:25:290:25:32

do much more than complaining that

public meetings. They moan about

0:25:320:25:37

what they called Tory austerity yet

their Finance Minister failed to

0:25:370:25:42

bring in a budget, leaving it to the

Conservative Secretary of State to

0:25:420:25:47

legislate for our budget at

Westminster. They complain about

0:25:470:25:53

Brexit, all the while refusing to

form and Executive or take their

0:25:530:25:56

seats in parliament and they go to

conference and glory in the murder

0:25:560:25:59

of the IRA.

APPLAUSE.

0:25:590:26:10

Let me say this... Today, my

thoughts are with the victims of

0:26:120:26:18

Enniskillen, Kingsmill, Le Man and

many thousands of innocent victims

0:26:180:26:23

who have conducted themselves with

dignity over many decades.

0:26:230:26:27

APPLAUSE.

0:26:270:26:37

-- La Mon. Yet when you listen to

Sinn Fein, they blame everyone else.

0:26:420:26:47

It is time Sinn Fein got serious.

Our team has been working hard over

0:26:470:26:52

this last few months in the talks

process and I want to thank my

0:26:520:26:57

Stormont team, who have been there

be fully. In particular, Simon

0:26:570:27:03

Hamilton, Edwin Poots and Philip

Weir, who have been very faithful in

0:27:030:27:07

their support of me.

APPLAUSE.

0:27:070:27:16

Some progress was made but that can

only be built upon if all sides are

0:27:160:27:22

genuinely serious about obtaining a

deal that is balanced. This party

0:27:220:27:27

will conclude a balanced deal but we

will not be party to a one-sided

0:27:270:27:33

arrangement that rewards

intransigent behaviour. Northern

0:27:330:27:36

Ireland needs of government and we

cannot continue without ministers.

0:27:360:27:42

Time is short. And those in Sinn

Fein blocking the restoration of

0:27:420:27:45

local decision-making need to decide

whether they want to do business

0:27:450:27:50

with us or have direct rule

ministers in place instead. For my

0:27:500:27:56

part, I still believe that

devolution is the best way to govern

0:27:560:27:59

Northern Ireland but to do that and

obey that delivers for all our

0:27:590:28:03

people we need serious partners in

government. ... In a way. One key

0:28:030:28:09

element of the talks that is

critical is that of any new

0:28:090:28:12

Executive is to be restored it must

be on a sustainable basis and all

0:28:120:28:16

parties who share that view must

insist on being the case. I said

0:28:160:28:22

back in the summer that this party

was prepared to legislate for the

0:28:220:28:27

Irish language in the context of

legislating for the plurality of

0:28:270:28:31

cultures that exist in Northern

Ireland. We know the Irish language

0:28:310:28:35

is spoken and enjoyed by thousands

of people in all parts of Northern

0:28:350:28:38

Ireland, it does no damage to our

unionism or the union that we

0:28:380:28:41

cherish. I respect the Irish

language and those who speak it.

0:28:410:28:47

However, respect is not a one-way

street.

0:28:470:28:48

APPLAUSE.

0:28:480:28:58

Respect works both ways. It is time

that Sinn Fein started to respect

0:28:590:29:05

our British culture. For too long

they have shown nothing but disdain

0:29:050:29:11

and this respect for the national

flag, the Royal Family, the armed

0:29:110:29:18

Forces, British symbols, the

constitutional reality and the very

0:29:180:29:20

name of this country! So we are up

for respect.

0:29:200:29:24

APPLAUSE.

0:29:240:29:34

We are up for respect. And we are up

for rights. Because Republicans like

0:29:370:29:43

to lecture us about rights, have you

noticed? There were not so concerned

0:29:430:29:50

about that most fundamental of

rights, the right to life, during

0:29:500:29:53

the Troubles.

APPLAUSE.

0:29:530:30:03

We are for rights and we respect

rights. What we oppose is using the

0:30:070:30:13

cloak of rights as a Trojan Horse

designed to break unionists. And I

0:30:130:30:18

know probably more than anybody that

our politics can be tough. Brutal,

0:30:180:30:23

even. But I am passionate in my

belief that politics has to be about

0:30:230:30:29

making a difference in the lives of

every single one of our citizens.

0:30:290:30:33

Back in the spring I visited our

Lady's Grammar School in Newry and I

0:30:330:30:38

came away with two things. A greater

understanding of the genuine passion

0:30:380:30:43

and love many have for the Irish

language and a beautiful gift of a

0:30:430:30:47

framed picture. And that picture was

inscribed with the words, together

0:30:470:30:51

we are strong. And those words

really registered with me. Every are

0:30:510:30:57

to generate opportunities for the

pupils of that school and all the

0:30:570:31:03

other schools across Northern

Ireland, to fulfil their potential,

0:31:030:31:05

then we have a far better chance if

we are moving forward together.

0:31:050:31:15

As you know I am very fond of the

work of CS Lewis and I want to

0:31:150:31:19

conclude with one of his quotes. He

once wrote, "You can't go back and

0:31:190:31:25

change the beginning, but you can

start where you are and change the

0:31:250:31:29

ending." And CS Lewis was right. We

cannot go backwards and undo what we

0:31:290:31:39

have done. We cannot start again

from somewhere different. We have to

0:31:390:31:42

deal with things the way they are.

But that doesn't mean the end is

0:31:420:31:47

already written. We can shape the

future for the next generation. That

0:31:470:31:52

is so much better than what we had

to experience. Build a Northern

0:31:520:31:56

Ireland where everyone can live a

good life. Create a country where

0:31:560:32:03

ambition and aspiration are

encouraged and opportunities exist

0:32:030:32:06

to fill them. Now, I love this

country. And I want it to be the

0:32:060:32:11

best that we all know it can be. And

that is my vision and that is our

0:32:110:32:19

mission because together we are

strong and together standing strong,

0:32:190:32:24

we will achieve that mission and

move Northern Ireland forward to a

0:32:240:32:29

better future. Thank you.

APPLAUSE

0:32:290:32:38

So Arlene Foster on her feet there

delivering that final speech in this

0:32:410:32:46

year's DUP conference. 25, 26

minutes I reckon and not

0:32:460:32:53

surprisingly, an enthusiastic

response for what she had to say.

0:32:530:32:56

You can see some of the well-known

members of the party there in the

0:32:560:33:00

front row and behind them

applauding, cheering, I saw Ian

0:33:000:33:07

Paisley, son of the former First

Minister. Gavin Robinson. I saw

0:33:070:33:15

Nigel Dodds sitting in the audience

alongside various other senior

0:33:150:33:20

members of the team. There is Nigel

Dodds the deputy leader taking to

0:33:200:33:25

the platform with Arlene Foster and

holding her hand aloft. She looks

0:33:250:33:36

Rick, she looks pleased with how

that went. Is it fair to say? What

0:33:360:33:40

did you think? Did she tick all the

boxes?

I think she is as much

0:33:400:33:47

relieved as pleased because she has

had a rough year what with the

0:33:470:33:52

Assembly election, RHI, then the

bounce back which began with the

0:33:520:33:56

general election in June. So it has

been a topsy-turvy 12 months for

0:33:560:34:00

Arlene Foster. I think if you

compare with Gerry Adams was the

0:34:000:34:08

attention she gave to criticising

Sinn Fein. Last week Gerry Adams

0:34:080:34:13

levelled most of his criticism at

the Irish and the British

0:34:130:34:17

Governments. She took her gloves off

in blaming Sinn Fein in effect for

0:34:170:34:22

the failure to restore devolution

and she did express her own

0:34:220:34:26

preference for the Restoration of

devolution, but like others in her

0:34:260:34:32

party, I think she is preparing the

party for the possibility that we

0:34:320:34:37

will get a fully fledge devolution

in the New Year.

Embraces from Simon

0:34:370:34:48

Hamilton, a senior member of the

team and senior negotiator in the

0:34:480:34:51

talks. There is Diane Dodds, wife of

course of Nigel Dodds. We also saw

0:34:510:34:56

there on the platform Willie McCrea

the former MP, Peter Weir, William

0:34:560:35:03

McCrea taking to the stage to lead

the cheers for Arlene Foster and she

0:35:030:35:09

has taken a seat at the front of the

hall. They are mopping up

0:35:090:35:12

proceedings. She will be coming out

to speak to members of the media

0:35:120:35:16

very shortly. In terms of how she

delivered that, did she seem to be

0:35:160:35:21

comfortable? With said with yourself

and Mark said beforehand, it was

0:35:210:35:24

quite a difficult trick for her to

have to pull off. She had success

0:35:240:35:28

and she had challenges in the past

12 months?

She certainly had. The

0:35:280:35:32

other thing I thought she got right

was the balance between if you like

0:35:320:35:36

the national UK wide picture and the

more local picture, you know, the

0:35:360:35:41

first part of the speech was apart

from celebrating the achief

0:35:410:35:44

inspectors in June, and thanking

people for their performance and

0:35:440:35:47

help and so on, was how they have

contributed to the wider UK agenda

0:35:470:35:51

and I think she put that upfront and

then turned her attention towards,

0:35:510:35:56

you know, our local difficulties as

it were. Expressing her preference

0:35:560:36:00

for devolution as I say, but

actually, there is nothing in there.

0:36:000:36:05

You remember if last week, Theresa

May talked about maybe talks

0:36:050:36:08

beginning or encouraging talks next

week. There was nothing I think in

0:36:080:36:12

that speech in and of itself that

suggested those talks would get

0:36:120:36:17

under way next week. There was very

little in terms of detail. She

0:36:170:36:21

recited her position on the Irish

Language Act which is that she

0:36:210:36:25

clearly I think is expressing a

preference for a kind of catch all,

0:36:250:36:29

multi-cultural approach to the

issue. So, there is going to be no

0:36:290:36:34

movement on that. She reinforced the

message about no border on the Irish

0:36:340:36:39

Sea in relation to Brexit. The kind

of restatement of what we know the

0:36:390:36:44

DUP currently its position is in

relation to the talks and indeed, in

0:36:440:36:48

relation to Brexit. But actually

there was nothing there, I think, to

0:36:480:36:52

encourage any idea that the

devolution is on the horizon. I

0:36:520:36:56

think really what she is doing is

softening people up for the very

0:36:560:37:00

real possibility now, I think, of

direct rule, but I was really taken

0:37:000:37:05

with the extent which A, she claimed

the DUP was now the People's Party

0:37:050:37:10

which I don't know which people is

included?

Did she mean, do you

0:37:100:37:14

think, unionist people or did she

mean the people of Northern Ireland

0:37:140:37:18

Was she thinking about her prove

role as First Minister where she

0:37:180:37:21

spoke on behalf of everybody in

Northern Ireland, that was the

0:37:210:37:24

theory anyway and do you think she

has carried a bit of that with her

0:37:240:37:28

into today's speech? It was very

much a people of Northern Ireland

0:37:280:37:32

who saw the world through DUP eyes.

Is it fair to say that?

I think so.

0:37:320:37:37

No, of course, as First Minister,

she is going to want to speak for

0:37:370:37:41

the whole of Northern Ireland,

particularly in relation to the

0:37:410:37:44

negotiations with the UK Government.

But she is not in that role at the

0:37:440:37:48

moment?

She is not. Unlike Nicola

Sturgeon who has her own platform in

0:37:480:37:53

Scotland or Carwyn Jones in Cardiff,

she has no political platform other

0:37:530:37:59

than that as leader of the DUP and

the spotlight for the DUP has

0:37:590:38:03

shifted to Westminster where Nigel

Dodds is in the driving seat and for

0:38:030:38:07

Sinn Fein their focus has shifted

southwards, the centres of political

0:38:070:38:11

gravity for each of the parties has

moved geographically and

0:38:110:38:14

politically.

And just a word about

the fire she directed towards Sinn

0:38:140:38:21

Fein. There were several speeches.

We had a copy of the speech that ran

0:38:210:38:26

to 16 pages, two-and-a-half pages

were devoted entirely to Sinn Fein

0:38:260:38:29

and the obstacles that they have

repeatedly put in the way of

0:38:290:38:33

progress towards the

re-establishment of devolution. She

0:38:330:38:36

turned that whole respect issue back

on Sinn Fein.

She did.

She said we

0:38:360:38:40

are big fans of respect, but that's

what that means?

Precisely. It was a

0:38:400:38:45

nifty sort of bit of footwork there

in turning the tables the way she

0:38:450:38:51

did. There was a put down of

Michelle O'Neill, Northern Ireland

0:38:510:38:55

is British and if you remember,

O'Neill actually said when they

0:38:550:38:59

appeared together on the platform

earlier this year, that Northern

0:38:590:39:02

Ireland isn't really British, do you

remember that?

Yes?

Ar-Shrien said

0:39:020:39:07

she didn't want to create a row on

air, but it was a very belated, but

0:39:070:39:18

nevertheless explicit and trenchant

criticism.

It was on a platform in

0:39:180:39:22

Oxford and there were a lot of

people watching.

There were a lot of

0:39:220:39:25

people watching. I suspect some of

the people watching were in Britain

0:39:250:39:28

and they will have a memory and they

will have witnessed what was a slap

0:39:280:39:32

Down for Michelle O'Neill.

We will

come back and hear more thoughts in

0:39:320:39:35

due course, Rick. For now, thank you

very much indeed.

0:39:350:39:42

Let's bring in our Political Editor,

Mark Devenport, who is at

0:39:420:39:45

the conference venue for us.

0:39:450:39:52

Mark, the focus of attention has

moved to Westminster with Stormont

0:39:520:39:56

down and potentially the Sinn Fein

thinking about thoughts in terms of

0:39:560:40:00

future Irish elections. So, I have

two MPs to talk about what they have

0:40:000:40:06

heard in terms of the speech. How

did you think it went? What did you

0:40:060:40:10

think the key theme was Emma

Little-Pengelly, your leader was

0:40:100:40:13

trying to drive home?

Well, I

thought it was a fantastic speech

0:40:130:40:16

and I think at the very heart of

that was a very positive vision for

0:40:160:40:21

Northern Ireland and a message that

the Democratic Unionist Party is

0:40:210:40:23

there to work for everybody across

all communities in Northern Ireland

0:40:230:40:26

and also that we believe very firmly

that it is unionism that provides

0:40:260:40:31

the best pathway for a secure future

and the best for business our young

0:40:310:40:36

people and everybody in Northern

Ireland.

Gregory Campbell, isn't

0:40:360:40:39

there a clash? There was a long

section of her speech which was to

0:40:390:40:42

do with bread and butter politics

and she said we're working for

0:40:420:40:46

everyone. You have got the flags

flying and she is saying that

0:40:460:40:49

Northern Ireland is British and will

remain British. You are not working

0:40:490:40:51

for everyone, you are working for

unionists

That's assuming the flags

0:40:510:40:56

are not all embracing. Most people

will look at the speech and draw

0:40:560:41:01

attention to the contrast. Last

weekend we had narrow, nationalist

0:41:010:41:06

minded up the rebels contributions

at Sinn Fein's ARDESH. What do we

0:41:060:41:10

get today? The DUP saying let's move

forward for everyone. We're proud of

0:41:100:41:14

our Britishness, but it is not

exclusive. It is inclusive. I think

0:41:140:41:18

a lot of people will be drawing

contrast between last weekend and

0:41:180:41:21

this weekend and we would welcome

attention on the contrasts.

A few

0:41:210:41:26

digs at the expense of Sinn Fein...

Of course.

Your deputy leader said

0:41:260:41:31

Arlene is not going away, a

reference to Gerry Adams and there

0:41:310:41:35

was a dig from Arlene back to

Michelle O'Neill.

Party conferences

0:41:350:41:39

do tend to respond like that because

people want to know are the party

0:41:390:41:43

delivering for their supporters? But

are they delivering in a more

0:41:430:41:47

comprehensive wide ranging way and

that's what we tried to do and I

0:41:470:41:51

think successfully.

We can hear the

National Anthem in the background...

0:41:510:41:55

Which is even better. What a great

note to finish on?

Isn't the truth,

0:41:550:42:01

Emma Little-Pengelly, there is a

divergence within the party is if

0:42:010:42:04

there was direct rule the MPs would

be absolutely and utterly centre

0:42:040:42:13

stage

The Democratic Unionist Party

has been a party of devolution. We

0:42:130:42:16

want to see a local Assembly. It is

the best for the people of Northern

0:42:160:42:20

Ireland to have a local Assembly

delivering for the people of

0:42:200:42:22

Northern Ireland, but of course, the

MPs, we have a lot of influence at

0:42:220:42:25

Westminster. We will do that in

parallel regardless of whether the

0:42:250:42:28

Assembly is there or not. . We will

continue to try to fight for the

0:42:280:42:32

best deal for our Kensies in

Northern Ireland and for the entire

0:42:320:42:37

of the UK in this wip we have with

the Conservative Party.

Can you

0:42:370:42:41

clear up some confusion? I

interviewed Arlene Foster and she

0:42:410:42:45

told me has lots of doubts about the

statue of limitations for police

0:42:450:42:49

officers and I thought you and Jim

Shannon and Jeffrey Donaldson

0:42:490:42:53

thought it was an excellent thing.

What's the DUP policy on that?

We

0:42:530:42:56

have been clear. It is an

interesting proposal. It hasn't been

0:42:560:43:00

led by us, but when you look at what

Arlene Foster said, she indicated

0:43:000:43:04

she had concerns about amnesty, a

statute of limitations is not an

0:43:040:43:07

amnesty. And I think we need to see

the detail of it because of course,

0:43:070:43:11

we don't nou what statutory

limitations would cover. It doesn't

0:43:110:43:17

necessary have to cover all

offences. It is a limit when a

0:43:170:43:19

prosecution can be brought or a time

limit which is not uncommon across a

0:43:190:43:23

range of criminal offences. We need

to look at the detail of it. We have

0:43:230:43:27

indicated it is an interesting

proposal, but we have always opposed

0:43:270:43:31

an amnesty. We have a concern about

an amnesty, but in statute of

0:43:310:43:37

limitations is something we will

look at.

If lawyers gave an opinion

0:43:370:43:41

you can't have one without the

other?

As a lawyer, I would be of

0:43:410:43:45

the view.

Some lawyers think that

We

have limitations in place for a

0:43:450:43:51

range of offence that is doesn't

apply generally to others. We look

0:43:510:43:55

at this, but we need to see the

detail and we haven't seen the

0:43:550:43:58

detail. It hasn't been led by us. It

has been led by the Government and

0:43:580:44:02

some of the Conservative Party and

we will look at the detail.

Gregory

0:44:020:44:09

Campbell, you had Julian Smith.

Nigel Dodds said you will get the £1

0:44:090:44:15

billion delivered, but he said

either on the time scale set out or

0:44:150:44:19

in a manner satisfactory to us. Is

that last phrase an acknowledgement

0:44:190:44:24

that it might take longer than you

were hoping for?

0:44:240:44:29

Either

Either way, we will get it

delivered. It is our preference it

0:44:290:44:32

will be delivered in an efficient

way through devolution, but Sinn

0:44:320:44:36

Fein or no one else should believe

their stalling tactics is going to

0:44:360:44:43

prevent delivery for the people of

Northern Ireland. We will get the

0:44:430:44:46

money delivered, but it would be

better if it was delivered through

0:44:460:44:51

devolved ministers.

I suppose that

then leads us on in conclusion to

0:44:510:44:55

when do you think the deadline

should be set on the talks because

0:44:550:44:58

you know, we have heard a lot of

talk in recent weeks about time is

0:44:580:45:01

short, we can't go on with this

half-way house, any longer, but

0:45:010:45:05

surely we are getting to the point

now where there should be a cut off

0:45:050:45:08

point?

We are. The Republic of

Ireland politics has entered into

0:45:080:45:15

the frame. We should know in the

next few days if an election is

0:45:150:45:20

imminently. If it is, we presume

Sinn Fein's emphasis will move to

0:45:200:45:24

the Republic for the next three or

four weeks which would put the

0:45:240:45:29

throttle back in neutral, but that's

not our wish. It is not our

0:45:290:45:33

emphasis. Let's get on and get the

deal done. Get the money spent. The

0:45:330:45:37

money that we negotiated for

everybody. Let's see benefit for

0:45:370:45:41

everybody through devolution and

gets get it done immediately.

Do you

0:45:410:45:45

think we are heading for direct rule

or devolution?

0:45:450:45:52

We remain optimistic for devolution,

it is the best for everybody in

0:45:520:45:56

Northern Ireland so I will remain

confident and optimistic and hopeful

0:45:560:45:59

best.

Thank you.

Back to you in the

studio. Thank you. Earlier the DUP

0:45:590:46:08

Deputy Leader Nigel Dodds addressed

the conference delegates, he said it

0:46:080:46:12

was quite a year as a party became

big players at Westminster, propping

0:46:120:46:17

up to reason a's government in

exchange for that billion pounds

0:46:170:46:20

deal. Also being crowned the go for

brokering the deal. A large part of

0:46:200:46:27

his speech was dedicated to praise

for his leader.

The test of any

0:46:270:46:32

reader's metal is that how they

perform when the sun is on their

0:46:320:46:36

face, it is during the darkest of

times that their true worth shines

0:46:360:46:40

through. There is a lot of talk

about fake news these days. But if

0:46:400:46:45

anybody wants to see such a

phenomenon in action, they could do

0:46:450:46:49

worse than review how Arlene Foster

has been treated in 2017.

0:46:490:46:53

APPLAUSE.

The truth is, these people do not

0:46:530:47:03

come for you because you are weak

but because you are strong.

0:47:030:47:07

APPLAUSE.

And though it has been testing and

0:47:070:47:16

trying at times for you and your

family, you have come through this

0:47:160:47:20

stronger and better than ever. Those

who thought you could be harassed

0:47:200:47:25

out of politics did not reckon on

the will and resolve of a strong

0:47:250:47:30

unionist woman from County

Fermanagh!

0:47:300:47:31

APPLAUSE.

I say on behalf of of every elected

0:47:310:47:44

member and every member of this

party at a time when other political

0:47:440:47:48

leaders are heading for the exit

stage left, Arlene is not going

0:47:480:47:52

away!

APPLAUSE.

0:47:520:47:58

And when the republican leadership

decreed that Martin McGuinness would

0:47:580:48:02

have to resign his post as Deputy

First Minister, the real goal was to

0:48:020:48:07

rob the DUP of power and influence.

Well, that strategy has hit a few

0:48:070:48:14

bumps along the way, hasn't it?

Little did our critics think that

0:48:140:48:21

within six months, the very

existence of a government of this

0:48:210:48:23

United Kingdom would depend on the

Democratic Unionist Party and that

0:48:230:48:29

Sinn Fein MPs and MLAs would be

reduced to carping critics of

0:48:290:48:34

everything and everyone from the

sidelines. Today, it is this party

0:48:340:48:40

that stands in the heart of

government, not in Northern Ireland

0:48:400:48:44

but across the United Kingdom.

APPLAUSE.

0:48:440:48:48

None of us want to see direct rule

introduced but we are fast

0:48:480:48:52

approaching the moment when it will

be the lesser of two evils. I know

0:48:520:48:56

there are many in other parties and

across the United Kingdom, when I

0:48:560:49:02

outline the list of achievements

that we have managed to secure,

0:49:020:49:05

think that Northern Ireland got too

good of the deal from the

0:49:050:49:09

government. But when I see how

critical our votes have been just in

0:49:090:49:15

recent days, I begin to wonder, did

we settled to easily? There are some

0:49:150:49:21

who even say in the House of Commons

that each DUP MP is worth as much as

0:49:210:49:28

Ronaldo or Lionel Messi, £100

million each! That is an insult! It

0:49:280:49:35

should be Steve Davis and Kyle

Lafferty, in our view! That was

0:49:350:49:42

Nigel Dodds delivering his speech as

Deputy Leader. We can talk about

0:49:420:49:46

that to Professor Rick Wilford. What

did you make of that? Arlene Foster

0:49:460:49:51

paid a very warm tribute to Nigel

Dodds. Earlier, he had paid that

0:49:510:49:56

very warm tribute to her.

It is a

very public demonstration of the

0:49:560:50:01

close working relationship they have

and the close political relationship

0:50:010:50:04

they have and it is trying to

project a picture that the DUP is in

0:50:040:50:09

safe hands at Westminster with Nigel

Dodds as the leader whereas Arlene

0:50:090:50:14

Foster, who doesn't have a formal

elected role, you are equally in

0:50:140:50:20

safe hands locally. We trained both

of them, they present a very strong

0:50:200:50:25

and cohesive front to the wider

public. He is not short on blowing

0:50:250:50:32

his own and his colleagues' trumpets

because of the deal that was struck

0:50:320:50:37

between the DUP and the

Conservatives in the wake of the

0:50:370:50:41

general election. The confidence and

supply agreement. It is interesting,

0:50:410:50:45

if you think about the stability of

governments and administrations

0:50:450:50:49

across the British Isles and also

Europe, you have confidence and

0:50:490:50:55

supply in London and in Dublin,

which is looking vulnerable,

0:50:550:50:59

Germany, they don't have a

government yet after that election

0:50:590:51:03

and there is a lot of instability

and Ashlee Brown nature to the

0:51:030:51:10

political system across Europe and

that exerts an effect internally for

0:51:100:51:16

those in those nations but in our

instance it makes things in relation

0:51:160:51:20

to Brexit that much more difficult.

The landscape is littered with more

0:51:200:51:25

difficulties.

How does the

relationship change within the DUP

0:51:250:51:27

Anne a leadership level if there is

going to be no return in the short

0:51:270:51:33

to medium term, it is clear there

will be no return to devolution?

0:51:330:51:37

Arlene Foster it is the party leader

without portfolio in terms of not

0:51:370:51:41

having a formal public role. Nigel

Dodds becomes the real focus of

0:51:410:51:45

power for the DUP as somebody who

can wield enormous influence at

0:51:450:51:52

Westminster, assuming the Tory

government remains in place? And we

0:51:520:51:55

should not presume anything! While

that continues, he is a very

0:51:550:52:01

powerful individual and the balance

shifts towards those ten MPs.

It has

0:52:010:52:06

shifted eastwards for the DUP and

southwards for Sinn Fein and you

0:52:060:52:12

have this political distance between

them that is mirrored by the

0:52:120:52:15

geographic difference. We have a

sense of that relationship over this

0:52:150:52:22

statute of limitations issue for

security forces, it seems as if most

0:52:220:52:26

of the DUP MPs at Westminster seem

to be disposed favourably to this

0:52:260:52:32

idea whereas Arlene Foster herself

in an interview yesterday evening

0:52:320:52:37

sounded the warning bell about the

possibility of this because it is

0:52:370:52:42

not... If you put any two lawyers in

a room, you will get three opinions.

0:52:420:52:48

The same with economists. Actually,

there could be a lot of unintended

0:52:480:52:55

consequences if that statute of

limitations is brought about

0:52:550:52:58

because, for example, it might mean

that people who colluded with

0:52:580:53:02

security forces during the Troubles,

loyalist paramilitaries, for

0:53:020:53:06

example, could claim amnesty for

being a defective estate agent and

0:53:060:53:13

that would be, to say the least,

extremely embarrassing.

He will

0:53:130:53:18

speak to you again at the end of the

programme. We can head back to Mark

0:53:180:53:22

Devenport who is at the conference

venue and is joined by another DUP

0:53:220:53:26

MP.

It is the East Antrim MP, Sammy

Wilson.

The right honourable? That

0:53:260:53:35

is right!

A well-established member

of the establishment! You have been

0:53:350:53:42

effectively changed? Stage-managed?

In past conferences one of the

0:53:420:53:49

highlights was a no holds barred

speech from Sammy Wilson giving that

0:53:490:53:53

everybody! Lots of jokes. You have

been relegated to the sofa?

In my

0:53:530:53:59

old age, perhaps that is the most

appropriate place for me.

Giving

0:53:590:54:03

deference to my age. There were a

couple of jokes, you picked up on

0:54:030:54:08

Lord Kilclooney?

I got a few of them

in. The crowd always likes some

0:54:080:54:16

jibes at your political opponents

and I am always happy to oblige.

We

0:54:160:54:19

were listening to that clip of Nigel

Dodds who pledged loyalty to Arlene

0:54:190:54:27

Foster. She has had her troubles

over the year, ups and downs. At one

0:54:270:54:32

point you are thinking of throwing

your hat into the ring when there

0:54:320:54:35

was that they can see, are you 100%

behind your?

When I think of the

0:54:350:54:46

year that Arlene Foster has put in,

she has proved herself E.On all

0:54:460:54:53

expectations as a real leader

because as Nigel said, it is easy

0:54:530:54:56

being a leader when the sun is

shining in your face, it is more

0:54:560:54:59

difficult when you face the wind and

the icy showers of adversity and

0:54:590:55:05

Arlene has been through that, she

has been unfairly treated and

0:55:050:55:09

unfairly vilified and she came

through like a stalwart and she has

0:55:090:55:14

won the admiration of the party and

that was shown in the reaction there

0:55:140:55:18

was to her today.

We had the budget

this week and as the former Finance

0:55:180:55:25

Minister at Stormont, you welcomed

the extra money for Northern Ireland

0:55:250:55:28

as an important source of

investment. Another ex-Stormont

0:55:280:55:31

minister said it was a bad joke,

there was nothing to add? If you

0:55:310:55:37

parties get your act together, how

will anyone believe this is for

0:55:370:55:42

real? Given is completely different

perspectives on the money and policy

0:55:420:55:46

and Brexit?

The bad joke is Mairtin

O'Muilleoir, as a Finance Minister

0:55:460:55:53

he did not bring forward any budget,

he was too scared. He could not make

0:55:530:55:59

the hard decisions required by a

Finance Minister to bring forward

0:55:590:56:02

the budget. I had known for years

and you cannot satisfy everybody and

0:56:020:56:07

the test of a Finance Minister and

the test is to look at the resources

0:56:070:56:13

and use that in the best way

possible. He looked at what he had,

0:56:130:56:18

he was scarred to offend somebody so

he scuttled away. He should not

0:56:180:56:22

really even be prepared to make any

comment on what is a good or bad

0:56:220:56:29

budget, and good or bad steel,

because he was a bad Finance

0:56:290:56:34

Minister and could not face up to

the job that he had to do. As far as

0:56:340:56:38

the budget is concerned, it will

leave challenges for us. But we went

0:56:380:56:43

in there and coming up to the budget

we argued for a large number of

0:56:430:56:47

things. And we got nearly all of

those delivered. He argued that we

0:56:470:56:51

needed more money from public

spending in Northern Ireland, we

0:56:510:56:56

have another £660 million. We to

have the review of VAT for the

0:56:560:57:02

hospitality industry to lift that

industry and the review of air

0:57:020:57:06

passenger duty and we have got that

and by the next budget we will

0:57:060:57:09

report back. We argued for more

money for the lab or funds and under

0:57:090:57:15

bigger issues for Universal Credit,

for small businesses, not to have

0:57:150:57:20

that VAT threshold lowered and few

duty and beer duty, we argued for

0:57:200:57:25

all of those things and were

successful. That is a difference

0:57:250:57:28

between us and Sinn Fein, were at

the game in Westminster and they are

0:57:280:57:34

scuttling away, afraid to make any

decisions.

Luckily, we don't have

0:57:340:57:38

any ministers to work out where this

extra money from the budget will be

0:57:380:57:42

allocated. Is a time when you have

to set a deadline? The end of the

0:57:420:57:48

year, mid-December?

For direct rule?

As both Arlene Foster and Nigel made

0:57:480:57:55

clear, our preference is to have the

ministers making decisions but

0:57:550:57:59

because of the structure here of

Sinn Fein deciding to scuttle into

0:57:590:58:03

the shadows and start making those

decisions, not being prepared to,

0:58:030:58:08

somebody has to, and we have been

saying, there is another budget to

0:58:080:58:11

be brought forward for next year and

that will require political

0:58:110:58:15

decisions Under-Secretary of State

has to face reality, if we cannot

0:58:150:58:20

get an Executive running here, we

need direct rule and direct

0:58:200:58:24

Wilderness Tours can decide on how

the billion pounds that we have

0:58:240:58:28

available is spent, the £660 million

and other decisions.

I was going to

0:58:280:58:34

ask about Brexit but I also have my

deadline!

Back to the studio. A

0:58:340:58:39

final word in a last-minute from

Professor Rick Wilford. Interesting.

0:58:390:58:46

We asked the parties to provide us

with guests to talk to Mark.

0:58:460:58:53

Interestingly, they selected three

MPs.

No local representatives? There

0:58:530:58:58

were no MLAs, excluding Simon

Hamilton, the architect of the

0:58:580:59:01

election strategy. This is

indicative of the way... The central

0:59:010:59:10

gravity has shifted to Westminster.

They do exert disproportionate

0:59:100:59:17

influence given those crude numbers

and they hold the balance and they

0:59:170:59:21

are critical players and that might

be emblematic of their thinking,

0:59:210:59:29

which is, direct route is coming and

we have to get ready.

What was the

0:59:290:59:35

big theme of Arlene Foster's speech?

I don't think there was one, not any

0:59:350:59:39

new idea, there were restatements of

what we already knew and jibes at

0:59:390:59:47

Sinn Fein and the assertion that

they were the people's party, some

0:59:470:59:51

people will find difficult to

accept.

Thank you. That is it. I

0:59:510:59:56

will be back tomorrow with Sunday

Politics at 11:35am and I will be

0:59:561:00:00

talking to Arlene Foster. Goodbye.

1:00:001:00:03

Mark Carruthers presents live coverage of proceedings at the Democratic Unionist Party annual conference in Belfast, including the speech by party leader Arlene Foster.


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