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Welcome to Hull, the city I am proud to call home. The city I hope to | :03:29. | :04:00. | |
represent in Parliament and the city that has the distinction of being | :04:01. | :04:02. | |
the UK's City of Culture 2017. From the freedom festival to the | :04:03. | :04:22. | |
newly fushished gallery, to the truck company, from our university | :04:23. | :04:29. | |
to our museums. Hull is a cultural centre and City of Cultural status | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
is adding to our national and international representation. We | :04:34. | :04:36. | |
have so much to look forward to in Hull. Whatever your tastes we have | :04:37. | :04:44. | |
the BBC One big weekend, the Proms, the Turner Prize, the royal | :04:45. | :04:49. | |
Shakespeare's visit. Hundreds of events across the four themeds? . | :04:50. | :04:54. | |
That makes Hull the perfect place for Labour to launch its pledges. A | :04:55. | :04:58. | |
creative future for all. So, I am very pleased to introduce and to | :04:59. | :05:04. | |
welcome back to Hull the deputy Leader of the Labour Party and | :05:05. | :05:09. | |
Labour's Shadow Secretary of State for culture rks, media and sport Tom | :05:10. | :05:11. | |
Watson. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. It is | :05:12. | :05:27. | |
fantastic to be back. Emma, thank you for that excellent introduction. | :05:28. | :05:32. | |
I used to live in Hull and I have very great and fond memories of the | :05:33. | :05:39. | |
stismt indeed, I went back to visit some of my former haunts last night. | :05:40. | :05:50. | |
Do any of you know the small music venue called the Adelpy. Paul | :05:51. | :05:54. | |
Jackson still runs it. Last time I was there was 25 years ago. He said | :05:55. | :05:58. | |
to me, are you going to try and blag your way in for free, like you used | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
to? Not a lot changes. Actually it did change, because I paid ?3 to get | :06:04. | :06:08. | |
in last night. I saw three acts. Now that is culture for the people. ?3 | :06:09. | :06:16. | |
for free bands. I saw an act called Katie Spencer, who had such a | :06:17. | :06:21. | |
distinguishing guitar playing style, it reminded me of the first time I | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
ever heard John Martin play. If you want to see an up and coming artist | :06:26. | :06:31. | |
look for Katie Spencer. What is the point I am trying to make? The point | :06:32. | :06:37. | |
I am trying to make is those of us who have lived here always knew that | :06:38. | :06:41. | |
Hull was a City of Culture. But it is just... That is Katie | :06:42. | :06:48. | |
Spencer's agent on the phone! It is fantastic it's been finally made | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
official. And I am immensely proud of this city. I am immensely proud | :06:53. | :06:59. | |
to be Shadow Culture Secretary. Jeremy and I share an ambition to | :07:00. | :07:03. | |
ensure that millions of people who want to enjoy arts and culture have | :07:04. | :07:08. | |
the opportunity to do so. We are here today to hear Jeremy outline | :07:09. | :07:13. | |
Labour's vision for the arts and the creative industries. That is if Carl | :07:14. | :07:17. | |
can switch his phone off in time for us all to hear the speech! I am sure | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
everyone in this room knows how important this sector is. Just for | :07:22. | :07:28. | |
the avoidance of doubt, the creative industries contribute ?84 billion a | :07:29. | :07:33. | |
year to our economy. They provide 2 million jobs. Art council figures | :07:34. | :07:39. | |
show every pound of public investment returns ?5 in tax | :07:40. | :07:41. | |
contributions from the sector as a whole. | :07:42. | :07:48. | |
The creative industries can regenerate whole communities. This | :07:49. | :07:52. | |
city knows this better than most. With Labour in power, Hull has seen | :07:53. | :07:55. | |
the benefits of investment in culture and the arts and how that | :07:56. | :07:59. | |
can drive regional economic growth and regeneration. The creative | :08:00. | :08:03. | |
industries will be judged on the amount of revenue they generate. But | :08:04. | :08:09. | |
there's another measure that's less easy to quantify. And that is the | :08:10. | :08:16. | |
benefit of more people reading, listening to music, painting, | :08:17. | :08:19. | |
visiting galleries or exploring our heritage. The unique things that | :08:20. | :08:27. | |
Britons create give our nation a particular way of speaking to the | :08:28. | :08:30. | |
world. An influence that doesn't come from military power or economic | :08:31. | :08:34. | |
success alone. But from what people love about us. | :08:35. | :08:38. | |
When it comes to the cultural sector, we are admired around the | :08:39. | :08:42. | |
plan et. We have global clouds beyond our size. And whatever | :08:43. | :08:49. | |
uncertainty lies ahead, we can be at the heart of a global culture. Now | :08:50. | :08:53. | |
our economy is set to be transformed by automation. And we need to | :08:54. | :08:59. | |
respond to that by becoming a more creative nation and teaching arts | :09:00. | :09:04. | |
and culture is one way to do that. And even more important than that, | :09:05. | :09:08. | |
is the way arts let us talk to the world. It is the way arts let us | :09:09. | :09:13. | |
talk to each other. I believe access to the arts and culture is | :09:14. | :09:19. | |
profoundly civilising. They broaden our horizons. They help us | :09:20. | :09:24. | |
understand each other. To be more tolerant of each other's | :09:25. | :09:27. | |
differences. They help us build communities and right now n the | :09:28. | :09:32. | |
midst of the upset and division that the referendum caused, it feels like | :09:33. | :09:36. | |
we very much need that. It feels like we need the shared experiences | :09:37. | :09:42. | |
this sector provides. The things we all watch, we make, listen to. The | :09:43. | :09:46. | |
museums we visit. The art galleries we go to. The video games we play. | :09:47. | :09:53. | |
And when I first got the job as Shadow Secretary I read the speeches | :09:54. | :09:58. | |
of Jenny Le, the first ever arts minister. She believed access to the | :09:59. | :10:05. | |
arts was as fundamental to our health and happiness as the National | :10:06. | :10:08. | |
Health Service. I agree with her. The Tories, not so much. The arts | :10:09. | :10:13. | |
and culture are always one of the things they target. Art council and | :10:14. | :10:17. | |
local authority spending on culture and the arts has fallen by hundreds | :10:18. | :10:22. | |
of millions of pounds since the Tories came to power in 2010. And | :10:23. | :10:29. | |
the past seven years has seen arts and culture systematically removed | :10:30. | :10:32. | |
from our education system, leading to a collapse in the numbers of | :10:33. | :10:36. | |
students taking art, music and drama. | :10:37. | :10:44. | |
Under a Labour government, arts and culture will be getting the funding | :10:45. | :10:52. | |
they need to prosper. 1 billion cultural capital fund will let us | :10:53. | :10:57. | |
upgrade existing facilities, and one of the great things about this job | :10:58. | :11:01. | |
is the people you meet and the places you get to visit. I have met | :11:02. | :11:06. | |
kids in new who have been given free music lessons thanks to a Labour | :11:07. | :11:18. | |
mayor. I have visited the Whitworth Gallery in Manchester and saw rows | :11:19. | :11:21. | |
of parked up in arms because it is so popular with mothers and their | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
young children. A Labour government will replace the creative industries | :11:27. | :11:30. | |
at the heart of our industrial strategy, leaving... So that when we | :11:31. | :11:37. | |
leave the European Union it will put the creative industries first. And a | :11:38. | :11:46. | |
Labour government will put inclusivity at the heart of all we | :11:47. | :11:52. | |
do. Access to arts and culture, the opportunity to pursue a career | :11:53. | :11:54. | |
creating something they love... These things should be available to | :11:55. | :12:00. | |
everyone, not just the privileged few. I'm going to pass you on to | :12:01. | :12:04. | |
someone who knows just how important access to the arts and culture can | :12:05. | :12:10. | |
be. She is someone I have admired from afar for long time. She's one | :12:11. | :12:15. | |
of our finest actors and she's incredibly brave. Please welcome | :12:16. | :12:17. | |
Samantha APPLAUSE. You'll have to excuse me, | :12:18. | :12:40. | |
I've never done anything like this before but I think now the time. I | :12:41. | :12:47. | |
am going to read off this. I am really thrilled to be here today in | :12:48. | :12:55. | |
Hull, the UK's city of culture 2017 to introduce Labour pledges for the | :12:56. | :13:00. | |
arts and creative industries, and I'm especially pleased that Labour a | :13:01. | :13:04. | |
sporting access to the arts for all at the heart of its pledges. The | :13:05. | :13:11. | |
creative arts have so much to offer us all, whether as audiences or as | :13:12. | :13:17. | |
creators. We have all had our lives enriched by a song or the poem, a | :13:18. | :13:26. | |
novel or a dramatic performance, even an image, a painting. Art is | :13:27. | :13:31. | |
not an afterthought to what elections are fought over, art is | :13:32. | :13:39. | |
what makes our lives worthwhile, it's a political issue. Every time a | :13:40. | :13:44. | |
museum, gallery or library closes down or a child is denied the chance | :13:45. | :13:49. | |
to study and artistic subject, or a young person with talent as to | :13:50. | :13:56. | |
abandon a promising career in theatre or music because they cannot | :13:57. | :13:59. | |
afford to support themselves, that is a loss to all of us. I come from | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
a working-class background, and without drama teachers at school and | :14:05. | :14:09. | |
the inspiration they gave me, and the opportunities they opened up in | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
my life, my life would have been very different. I certainly wouldn't | :14:14. | :14:17. | |
have been here today, and I couldn't have had the career I have had if my | :14:18. | :14:22. | |
talents had not been identified and spotted and supported at a really | :14:23. | :14:29. | |
early age. There are young people growing up today who have huge | :14:30. | :14:33. | |
artistic talent, but who don't have the support they need to develop it | :14:34. | :14:38. | |
properly. Artistic careers should not be restricted to those with the | :14:39. | :14:42. | |
most family wealth behind them or those who go to the most expensive | :14:43. | :14:48. | |
schools, and that is why it is so important that Labour's policies to | :14:49. | :14:52. | |
make sure children have the opportunity to study artistic | :14:53. | :14:57. | |
subjects in school and to build up our cultural institutions so that | :14:58. | :15:01. | |
everyone can use them are put into effect. That is why I am Labour, and | :15:02. | :15:10. | |
I hope you are too. Please welcome the leader of the Labour Party, Mr | :15:11. | :15:12. | |
Jeremy Corbyn. APPLAUSE Samantha, thank you for the | :15:13. | :15:40. | |
introduction, thank you for your talent and the way you inspire so | :15:41. | :15:44. | |
many young actors to achieve what you have achieved. | :15:45. | :15:47. | |
We are really honoured and proud you are here today to launch our | :15:48. | :15:52. | |
cultural manifesto. Thank you very much indeed. | :15:53. | :15:57. | |
APPLAUSE. I look forward to you joining | :15:58. | :16:01. | |
Carlisle and Diana as three brilliant representatives of Labour | :16:02. | :16:08. | |
for Hull, thank you for being here today. I also want to thank Tom | :16:09. | :16:14. | |
Watson, a former Hull university student, I cannot claim to be that | :16:15. | :16:18. | |
but he will be an absolutely brilliant secretary of the state for | :16:19. | :16:22. | |
culture, media and sport in the next government because he is totally | :16:23. | :16:26. | |
dedicated to the brief he has got and the determination that culture | :16:27. | :16:29. | |
should be there for everyone. Thank you for what you said this morning | :16:30. | :16:33. | |
and everything you are doing in this campaign. Actually there could be no | :16:34. | :16:42. | |
better place to launch our cultural manifesto, and during the hour after | :16:43. | :16:48. | |
the general election was announced, Tom and I put our heads together and | :16:49. | :16:53. | |
said culture launch will be in Hull, and it is, and we are here. It is | :16:54. | :17:01. | |
Labour's guarantee of culture for all and it is right we are here. In | :17:02. | :17:08. | |
the last Labour government, Andy Burnham was impressed by how | :17:09. | :17:11. | |
Liverpool had been transformed after being made the European city of | :17:12. | :17:15. | |
culture, and I was in Liverpool over the weekend and we had an incredible | :17:16. | :17:21. | |
music event over the water in the Wirral. 20,000 people turned up to a | :17:22. | :17:27. | |
football stadium to enjoy music. That is the mixture of sport and | :17:28. | :17:33. | |
music and inspiration of so many people. Andy proposed the idea that | :17:34. | :17:38. | |
every four years we should have a UK city of culture. He was unable to | :17:39. | :17:43. | |
guarantee that speakers in an election campaign don't lose their | :17:44. | :17:47. | |
voice, and thanks to the brilliant bid put forward by Hull City | :17:48. | :17:53. | |
Council, Hull was chosen to be the city of culture. Congratulations to | :17:54. | :17:58. | |
Hull, well done on the bid you have put forward. These things don't | :17:59. | :18:06. | |
happen by accident, they happen with very, very hard work by a lot of | :18:07. | :18:12. | |
people. Hull had hoped to encourage an extra million people to visit | :18:13. | :18:18. | |
Hull during 2017. One third of a million visited in the first week, | :18:19. | :18:25. | |
and I'm not surprised - look at what we have offered. Anyone arriving at | :18:26. | :18:29. | |
Hull Station, the first thing you see is a replica of Amy Johnson's | :18:30. | :18:35. | |
plane made by prisoners to help them learn new skills, which is excellent | :18:36. | :18:40. | |
for anyone in prison, but also as a gift to this wonderful city in | :18:41. | :18:44. | |
memory of one of its favourite daughters, Amy Johnson. Well done | :18:45. | :18:50. | |
Hull, well done to the prisoners, well done to Amy Johnson. A 200 foot | :18:51. | :18:59. | |
wind turbine blade made locally went on display in Queen Victoria Square. | :19:00. | :19:07. | |
The poppies had 450,000 visits in two months, and finally you created | :19:08. | :19:13. | |
the Sea of Hull by encouraging 3000 local people... Yes, it is very | :19:14. | :19:22. | |
broad-minded... To strip naked, paint themselves blue, and be | :19:23. | :19:26. | |
photographed in the early hours of Saturday morning. These photos taken | :19:27. | :19:31. | |
by a brilliant photographer, Spencer to Nick, are now on display in the | :19:32. | :19:36. | |
refurbished Ferens Art Gallery. So in a very nice way, the people of | :19:37. | :19:40. | |
Hull made an exhibition of themselves. I would like to thank | :19:41. | :19:48. | |
Labour council leader Steve Brady for his hard work in helping deliver | :19:49. | :19:58. | |
the city for culture. APPLAUSE Steve, well done you and | :19:59. | :20:03. | |
your colleagues and well done Martin Green also for the hell people to to | :20:04. | :20:09. | |
achieving this because this is a team that achieved something | :20:10. | :20:13. | |
brilliant for the city. We can see what transformative | :20:14. | :20:17. | |
powers of culture have done for Hull, not just attracting visitors | :20:18. | :20:21. | |
in creating world-class cultural events, but here in Humber Street | :20:22. | :20:26. | |
where a former fruit market is being regenerated into a thriving cultural | :20:27. | :20:30. | |
hub, creating new businesses and jobs. The new Humber Street | :20:31. | :20:36. | |
contemporary art gallery next door has seen 60,000 visits in the first | :20:37. | :20:41. | |
six weeks. It's estimated that being the UK city of culture will bring | :20:42. | :20:47. | |
?60 million in economic boost to the city of Hull this year alone, that | :20:48. | :20:51. | |
is an achievement everybody should be very proud of. And this city that | :20:52. | :20:56. | |
has done so much for this country, brought so much art and poetry and | :20:57. | :21:03. | |
inspiration, is a model we can all learn from. And now Labour wants to | :21:04. | :21:08. | |
replicate what we have seen in Hull across the rest of Britain. Here is | :21:09. | :21:14. | |
why. Our music industry alone contributes ?4 billion to our | :21:15. | :21:24. | |
economy each year, but every Adele has to start somewhere. Small the | :21:25. | :21:33. | |
news and larger ones give artists the first break as they learn their | :21:34. | :21:40. | |
craft. -- small venues. But over the last ten years in London alone, 40% | :21:41. | :21:46. | |
of small venues have closed. That means there is nowhere for budding | :21:47. | :21:50. | |
musicians to perform, there is a loss of rehearsal space. Where are | :21:51. | :21:55. | |
the next generation of musicians going to come from if we take away | :21:56. | :22:00. | |
the facilities now? This Conservative government has made | :22:01. | :22:06. | |
matters even worse. Since 2010, they have slashed 48 million funding for | :22:07. | :22:11. | |
the arts councils in England, Wales and Scotland. There is creativity in | :22:12. | :22:17. | |
everyone. Labour's mission will be to set that creativity free. We need | :22:18. | :22:25. | |
to give people the opportunity for all the creativity to flourish, so | :22:26. | :22:30. | |
today we unveil our cultural manifesto, which sets out a bold and | :22:31. | :22:35. | |
inspiring programme to encourage creativity. We are pledging ?1 | :22:36. | :22:41. | |
billion to launch a new cultural capital fund to support our world | :22:42. | :22:46. | |
leading cultural industries that have been savaged by Conservative | :22:47. | :22:51. | |
cuts. We will end austerity to boost creativity. It will be amongst the | :22:52. | :22:57. | |
biggest arts infrastructure funding ever created, it will boost arts, | :22:58. | :23:03. | |
theatre and literature, upgrading our cultural infrastructure for the | :23:04. | :23:06. | |
digital age and supporting our economy. It will also invest in | :23:07. | :23:12. | |
creative clusters across the country based on a similar model to business | :23:13. | :23:16. | |
enterprise zones. I don't want to see just one city benefit from this | :23:17. | :23:21. | |
transformative powers of culture every four years. Our cultural | :23:22. | :23:26. | |
capital fund will help many more towns and cities benefit all round. | :23:27. | :23:32. | |
The fund will be administered by the arts Council, a Labour generation, | :23:33. | :23:39. | |
over a five-year period and helped transform our country's cultural | :23:40. | :23:44. | |
landscape. We will also protect and invest in music venues to support | :23:45. | :23:51. | |
grass roots and professional music, ensuring a healthy music industry | :23:52. | :23:54. | |
right across the country in every town and city. Labour will review | :23:55. | :24:02. | |
the business rate system to make it fairer to organisations like music | :24:03. | :24:07. | |
venues. This is actually very important, very practical help we | :24:08. | :24:11. | |
can give, extending the thousand pound pub relief to help small music | :24:12. | :24:15. | |
venues which are suffering from extraordinary rate rises at the | :24:16. | :24:20. | |
present time. We will also maintain something that we are very proud of | :24:21. | :24:26. | |
in the Labour Party, and what Kris Smith achieved when he was our | :24:27. | :24:31. | |
Secretary of State in 1997. We will maintain free museums and invest in | :24:32. | :24:38. | |
our heritage sector. APPLAUSE I remember Chris explained | :24:39. | :24:47. | |
to me how he went to the National museums after they had been made | :24:48. | :24:52. | |
free and suddenly everybody could be there. | :24:53. | :24:56. | |
Before that they couldn't. Our national heritage is National for | :24:57. | :24:59. | |
everybody, not just those that can afford it. | :25:00. | :25:07. | |
The heritage sector is central to both the identity and economy of | :25:08. | :25:12. | |
local communities across the country because access to culture is vital | :25:13. | :25:17. | |
for the emotional and intellectual growth of all our people, but | :25:18. | :25:22. | |
especially important for young people. We want to unleash the | :25:23. | :25:26. | |
potential of every young person, not just through education in the normal | :25:27. | :25:33. | |
school setting, but also through culture, in every of us there is a | :25:34. | :25:40. | |
poet, writer, a singer of songs, an artist, a creative thinker. But too | :25:41. | :25:46. | |
few of us are able to fulfil any kind of artistic ambition. Under the | :25:47. | :25:51. | |
Conservatives it's getting worse. Per-pupil funding for schools will | :25:52. | :25:54. | |
be cut for the first time in a generation. | :25:55. | :26:01. | |
Forced to send out begging letters to parents for donations to keep the | :26:02. | :26:08. | |
schools running. This is a shameful state of affairs. So, we will be, in | :26:09. | :26:15. | |
addition to properly funding our schools, scrapping tuition fees and | :26:16. | :26:22. | |
introducing universal free school meals in our primary schools, | :26:23. | :26:25. | |
something pioneered here in Hull. But we will go further... | :26:26. | :26:29. | |
Labour will introduce an arts pupil premium that will allow every | :26:30. | :26:44. | |
primary school child in England the chance to learn a musical | :26:45. | :26:50. | |
restaurant, take part in drama -- instrument, take part in drama, have | :26:51. | :26:55. | |
regular access to galleries and museums. Labour will not only feed | :26:56. | :27:02. | |
our children's stomachs, but feed their minds and unleash their | :27:03. | :27:03. | |
creativity. The arts pupil premium will provide | :27:04. | :27:21. | |
?165 million per year to boost creative education and ensure arts | :27:22. | :27:25. | |
facilities in state schools match standards found only now in many | :27:26. | :27:28. | |
private schools. We will deliver a creative future | :27:29. | :27:35. | |
for all and a culture for the many, not the few. But we need your help. | :27:36. | :27:42. | |
If people want to see these transformative changes, then they | :27:43. | :27:48. | |
have to be able to vote. Those who are not on the register have 12 | :27:49. | :27:56. | |
hours, 26 minutes to get registered. 12 hours, 26 minutes. It will take | :27:57. | :28:05. | |
you two minutes. Since the election was called, more than two million | :28:06. | :28:11. | |
people have registered to vote. 40% of them aged between 18-24. | :28:12. | :28:18. | |
So, my message is simply this - if you are being held back, and want to | :28:19. | :28:24. | |
lead a richer life, then get registered and have your say. | :28:25. | :28:30. | |
We can stop a Conservative Government that wants to pit the old | :28:31. | :28:37. | |
against the young. And replace it with a Labour Government that offers | :28:38. | :28:41. | |
hope and unity. A Government for the many, not the | :28:42. | :28:46. | |
few. A Government that ensures that | :28:47. | :28:50. | |
culture is for all. And I'm very proud of the manifesto we're putting | :28:51. | :28:55. | |
forward. I'm very proud of the culture and creative part of this | :28:56. | :29:00. | |
manifesto. This country is so brimming with talent. | :29:01. | :29:06. | |
Let's let that creativity, that talent, that genius be unleashed. | :29:07. | :29:10. | |
Because culture is for the many, not the few. Thank you very much indeed. | :29:11. | :29:16. | |
Well, before we start the questions, I'd just like to say this, in 2011, | :29:17. | :30:14. | |
when we became the administration in Hull, it was a question of either | :30:15. | :30:21. | |
managing decline or going for growth. | :30:22. | :30:25. | |
And the sensible thing, the most sensible thing to do, we knew quite | :30:26. | :30:32. | |
well was to go for growth. Growth produces jobs. It gives hope to the | :30:33. | :30:38. | |
people. And part of that, we got together with business, with the | :30:39. | :30:44. | |
voluntary sector, with the arts community and we developed that plan | :30:45. | :30:51. | |
and I can say this, that in four years, that plan and all the things | :30:52. | :30:56. | |
that we had in that plan has succeeded. We plan to get 7500 jobs | :30:57. | :31:05. | |
in a ten-year period, we've achieved that in four years. | :31:06. | :31:15. | |
That is everybody in Hull working together. It is what was needed. We | :31:16. | :31:24. | |
needed that Hull and the futures for our young people. What we've seen, | :31:25. | :31:32. | |
what we are seeing now is an upsurge in regeneration and investment. | :31:33. | :31:38. | |
Never before seen in this City. Just in the last 18 months announcements | :31:39. | :31:43. | |
and actual now developments have occurred to the tune of just under | :31:44. | :31:51. | |
?3 billion in this city. A total transformation of the city centre, | :31:52. | :31:55. | |
where people are so proud to come into. There are art galleries. We've | :31:56. | :32:03. | |
expanded the offer to the public. We've increased the hours of our art | :32:04. | :32:10. | |
galleries and the other cultural things in this city, so we have not | :32:11. | :32:15. | |
gone in to decrease or to close down. We have increased. And through | :32:16. | :32:23. | |
that, we're now seeing a huge number of jobs created in the city centre | :32:24. | :32:28. | |
alone. And I just have to say this, if anybody doubts that the City of | :32:29. | :32:35. | |
Culture should actually stop, come to Hull and see the reasons why it | :32:36. | :32:41. | |
should go on. I'm going to take questions now from the media and the | :32:42. | :32:46. | |
first one is from the Press Association. | :32:47. | :32:56. | |
George Osborne has tweeted to say the Tories will U-turn on their | :32:57. | :33:03. | |
social care policy and they will introduce a social care cost cap. I | :33:04. | :33:08. | |
want to get your reaction to that. That was George Osborne, was it? Did | :33:09. | :33:12. | |
that come from the Tory central office or from The Evening Standard? | :33:13. | :33:17. | |
It's going to be in The Evening Standard. | :33:18. | :33:20. | |
I would suggest to you that he probably knows. We will take them in | :33:21. | :33:35. | |
threes and Rachel from RTV. Good morning. | :33:36. | :33:41. | |
Labour have been running education in Wales since 2011 and yet tuition | :33:42. | :33:46. | |
fees there are the same as in England, ?9,000 aer. Why should | :33:47. | :33:52. | |
students in England trust you on tuition fees? And Kier, from the | :33:53. | :33:59. | |
Daily Mirror. Morning. The last two sets of | :34:00. | :34:05. | |
opinion polls have been single dig get-leads for the Tories. What do | :34:06. | :34:10. | |
you think is behind that? And do you think you can keep going? OK. Thanks | :34:11. | :34:17. | |
for your questions. A Tory U-turn on social care would be extremely | :34:18. | :34:21. | |
welcome, because I want this country to face up to its responsibilities | :34:22. | :34:28. | |
to those who need care, either frail elderly, those with special needs, | :34:29. | :34:32. | |
those with severe disabilities, those with learning difficulties and | :34:33. | :34:37. | |
our proposals are that we will refund social care, putting | :34:38. | :34:41. | |
emergency money into it now, so those million people waiting for | :34:42. | :34:45. | |
social care don't wait and we won't get involved in this horrible policy | :34:46. | :34:49. | |
the Tories are putting forward, which will actually damage families | :34:50. | :34:53. | |
and family income, damage people, break up relationships, all kinds of | :34:54. | :34:58. | |
horrible things will happen from their very dangerously ill thought | :34:59. | :35:01. | |
out social care policy. And if George Osborne is at last doing | :35:02. | :35:07. | |
something useful in his life of supporting proper funding of social | :35:08. | :35:10. | |
care, then thank you, George, for that. And I urge him to read very | :35:11. | :35:15. | |
carefully what's in our manifesto on social care. Rachel, thanks for your | :35:16. | :35:21. | |
point. We put forward a very clear funded and credible policy of what | :35:22. | :35:27. | |
we'll do on university fees. We do so because if we carry on with this | :35:28. | :35:33. | |
process of ever rising fares and under Conservatives the threat of | :35:34. | :35:36. | |
lifting the cap all together, then what happens is two things. One is | :35:37. | :35:41. | |
those that have achieved enough to get into university, gone through | :35:42. | :35:45. | |
university, leave with debts of often ?50,000 and more than that. | :35:46. | :35:51. | |
And if they earn more than ?21,000 they have to start repaying it, but | :35:52. | :35:55. | |
the debt is still there for a long time after that. | :35:56. | :36:00. | |
I'm determined that university education should be available for | :36:01. | :36:04. | |
all. And that is why we've gone into this in a lot of detail, after a lot | :36:05. | :36:09. | |
of debate and discussion and looked at it and decided, yes, we will make | :36:10. | :36:15. | |
this offer of removing the university fees, reinstating the | :36:16. | :36:19. | |
maintenance grant for those who need it at university and reinstating the | :36:20. | :36:22. | |
Educational Maintenance Allowance, so that young people can continue to | :36:23. | :36:27. | |
do A levels or vocational qualifications and have some degree | :36:28. | :36:30. | |
of independence and self-respect in what they are doing. We do that | :36:31. | :36:33. | |
because we want all young people to have the chance of going to | :36:34. | :36:37. | |
university. Since the fees have gone up to ?9,000 under the coalition | :36:38. | :36:42. | |
Government, the numbers of working class youngsters going to university | :36:43. | :36:46. | |
has declined. The number of university applications has started | :36:47. | :36:50. | |
to go down. Surely, we should be investing in our future. Somebody | :36:51. | :36:57. | |
who doesn't achieve the profession they want, nursing, teaching, | :36:58. | :37:00. | |
medicine in some other form, engineering - whatever it happens to | :37:01. | :37:04. | |
be, they lose out. But we as a society lose out because we've lost | :37:05. | :37:09. | |
a qualified person who can help improve our industries, improve our | :37:10. | :37:12. | |
services, improve our quality of life. We're determined to do it. And | :37:13. | :37:16. | |
we're going to do it when we've won the election on June 8th. | :37:17. | :37:20. | |
Kier, thanks very much for your question, I'm not commenting on any | :37:21. | :37:33. | |
polls that are going on. The only poll I am interested in is the one | :37:34. | :37:37. | |
on June 8th. What I would say is, the numbers of people who are | :37:38. | :37:41. | |
registered to vote in this election are extraordinary. The numbers of | :37:42. | :37:46. | |
people that are volunteering to help the Labour election campaign are | :37:47. | :37:48. | |
extraordinary. And the numbers of people making | :37:49. | :37:54. | |
small donations, average of ?22 to our election funds says something | :37:55. | :37:57. | |
about the popularity of the manifesto we put forward and the | :37:58. | :38:02. | |
views that are there in it. This election is obviously very | :38:03. | :38:06. | |
important. Very important for the future direction this country leads. | :38:07. | :38:12. | |
What I do is invite everyone to take part in conversations over the next | :38:13. | :38:17. | |
two weeks. Conversations about whether you want a Government that | :38:18. | :38:21. | |
continues to tax cutting corporations, tax cutting the | :38:22. | :38:25. | |
wealthiest in our society and continuing to underfund schools. | :38:26. | :38:30. | |
Underfund education, underfund social care, underfundamental | :38:31. | :38:33. | |
health. Deny the arts the support they need and deny industry the | :38:34. | :38:38. | |
investment it needs in a better infrastructure across the whole | :38:39. | :38:42. | |
country. So we get high-quality railway lines to every city, | :38:43. | :38:47. | |
including Hull. That we get good broadband, contact rate, access | :38:48. | :38:50. | |
rates all over the country. The Labour offer is about an expanding | :38:51. | :38:56. | |
economy, which will improve employment, improve wages and living | :38:57. | :39:02. | |
standards or a continuation of the grotesque levels of inequality that | :39:03. | :39:05. | |
exist in Britain. That's the Labour offer. | :39:06. | :39:08. | |
We will take questions from the audience. Any questions from the | :39:09. | :39:26. | |
audience? Jeremy, we have a society that we want, we have a society that | :39:27. | :39:30. | |
we want to be built on equality. I know that is what you are attempting | :39:31. | :39:37. | |
to deliver. Have you a keen message for younger voters, such as my two | :39:38. | :39:41. | |
daughters who are hoping to go to university and a son that wants to | :39:42. | :39:44. | |
get into qualifications that's a message of hope for them. I know our | :39:45. | :39:49. | |
policies are there. But it is key to us, as parents and as those who have | :39:50. | :39:56. | |
young people, still a few years off, but she's going to be there, but we | :39:57. | :40:00. | |
want to make sure that those young people and their parents understand | :40:01. | :40:04. | |
the real importance of why they need to vote Labour in June, because | :40:05. | :40:08. | |
we've got to win this election. This is a one-off. If we don't, we're | :40:09. | :40:12. | |
damaged. Not us, I'm talking about, as a | :40:13. | :40:15. | |
party, I'm talking about the country. How do we get by this and | :40:16. | :40:19. | |
how do we deliver? We have one of the best school music | :40:20. | :40:37. | |
services in the country, do you think your preset for every primary | :40:38. | :40:42. | |
school pupil will enable such centres of excellence to spring up | :40:43. | :40:49. | |
all over the country? Any further questions? Anybody in the audience? | :40:50. | :41:09. | |
Thank you. Lynn Davidson from the Sun. No, we don't boo journalists. | :41:10. | :41:20. | |
The Northern Ireland Secretary has challenged you today, he has asked | :41:21. | :41:29. | |
five questions on the IRA asking should IRA's murdered the condemned | :41:30. | :41:38. | |
unequivocally by IRA terrorists. If they are, would you unequivocally | :41:39. | :41:44. | |
condemned the IRA as terrorists? Thanks to James Brogan Shire for his | :41:45. | :41:49. | |
questions, I condemn all acts of violence in Northern Ireland from | :41:50. | :41:53. | |
well wherever they came. I spent the 1980s representing a constituency | :41:54. | :41:57. | |
with a large number of Irish people in it -- Northern Irish people in | :41:58. | :42:02. | |
it. We wanted justice and a solution. The first ceasefire helped | :42:03. | :42:07. | |
bring that about and helped bring about those talks which were | :42:08. | :42:10. | |
representative of all sections of opinion in Northern Ireland and the | :42:11. | :42:14. | |
Labour government after 1997 helped bring in the historic Good Friday | :42:15. | :42:20. | |
Agreement, the base of which was the recognition of the differing | :42:21. | :42:23. | |
cultural histories and values of Northern Ireland, and it stood the | :42:24. | :42:29. | |
test of time and it is still there. We have a devolved administration in | :42:30. | :42:33. | |
Northern Ireland, and I think we should recognise that the piece was | :42:34. | :42:38. | |
achieved by a lot of bravery both in the unionist community as well as in | :42:39. | :42:42. | |
the nationalist community. People that walked a very difficult extra | :42:43. | :42:47. | |
mile when they were under pressure from the communities not to do so, | :42:48. | :42:51. | |
both Republicans and unionists walked that extra mile and brought | :42:52. | :42:56. | |
the Good Friday Agreement and I think we should use this election is | :42:57. | :43:00. | |
thanking those that brought about the Good Friday Agreement. | :43:01. | :43:08. | |
APPLAUSE All of them. Those in Government at the time as well as | :43:09. | :43:13. | |
those who did so much on the ground, and Northern Ireland is a very | :43:14. | :43:17. | |
different place. We will be working with the devolved administration in | :43:18. | :43:20. | |
Northern Ireland as well as the Government of the Republic to make | :43:21. | :43:24. | |
sure wrecks it doesn't bring about a barbed wire border -- to make sure | :43:25. | :43:34. | |
Brexit doesn't bring about a barbed wire border. Of the other two | :43:35. | :43:39. | |
questions raised, thank you. This election is about two views and | :43:40. | :43:47. | |
visions of Britain. Either the absolute 21st-century cutting-edge | :43:48. | :43:50. | |
ideas put forward by the Conservative Party, which seemed to | :43:51. | :43:55. | |
revolve around restoration of fox hunting and selective education, or | :43:56. | :44:00. | |
our view which is one which is about giving opportunities for all. We | :44:01. | :44:04. | |
cannot go on being the lifeguard of industrial investment of all the | :44:05. | :44:09. | |
major industrial countries in the world. We cannot go on underfunding | :44:10. | :44:13. | |
crucial services and short-changing our young people who are offered | :44:14. | :44:18. | |
little except greater costs and greater debt and less opportunity. | :44:19. | :44:23. | |
And so we are not going into this awful game of setting off the young | :44:24. | :44:28. | |
against the old, saying to the young you have got to pay for the costs of | :44:29. | :44:32. | |
the older people, saying to the older people you are under some kind | :44:33. | :44:35. | |
of threat because of what we want to spend on education. In reality we | :44:36. | :44:41. | |
all depend on each other. Young people need the support and wisdom | :44:42. | :44:46. | |
of older people, older people need to be encouraged and infused by | :44:47. | :44:51. | |
younger people so our manifesto is for all. This is your chance. People | :44:52. | :44:57. | |
lay down their lives so that you might vote. Women's right to vote | :44:58. | :45:04. | |
came about because of the bravery of suffragettes and many others around | :45:05. | :45:08. | |
the time of the First World War, but it also started here in Hull. Mary | :45:09. | :45:15. | |
Wollstonecraft wrote the rights of women, and that is part of the | :45:16. | :45:20. | |
origins of that whole democratic movement. Hull has taught the world | :45:21. | :45:24. | |
a great deal and I tell the people this is your chance... Your chance | :45:25. | :45:29. | |
to vote in this election, your chance to express your democratic | :45:30. | :45:33. | |
view and I hope you will recognise we are determined unserious to | :45:34. | :45:41. | |
properly fund education, culture and the arts, properly invest in service | :45:42. | :45:45. | |
industry growth for the future so your skills, your genius can | :45:46. | :45:51. | |
contribute to a better quality of life for everybody. Please take part | :45:52. | :45:55. | |
in the election, but above all have that discussion, ask the difficult | :45:56. | :45:58. | |
questions of each other and everyone else between now and election day, | :45:59. | :46:05. | |
that is what an election should be about, proper debate and discussion, | :46:06. | :46:17. | |
and I'm enjoying every minute of it. APPLAUSE And on your point about | :46:18. | :46:22. | |
music, I congratulate Hull because of the traditions it has got in | :46:23. | :46:26. | |
culture and so many other things but also the way in which you have a | :46:27. | :46:31. | |
council which is serious about young people learning music. When young | :46:32. | :46:35. | |
people achieve things together it is quite inspiring, and it's the role | :46:36. | :46:39. | |
of local education authorities that is also important in this. I went to | :46:40. | :46:44. | |
the Royal Albert Hall to see a concert a couple of years ago, | :46:45. | :46:49. | |
absolutely brilliant. Huge orchestras of 100 children coming | :46:50. | :46:53. | |
together, you think how does the conductor manage it? But the joy of | :46:54. | :46:58. | |
those children there performing together. You go to libraries where | :46:59. | :47:03. | |
there are some reading projects and you see the joy of children who have | :47:04. | :47:08. | |
read six books, talked about it and felt inspired by it, carrying on | :47:09. | :47:13. | |
using the libraries so I want to rule that out across the country. | :47:14. | :47:17. | |
The areas seeing the theatres and libraries closed, schools with lack | :47:18. | :47:22. | |
of instruments and that kind of thing, it isn't going to cost a lot | :47:23. | :47:27. | |
of money in order to reinstate so much of that, and that is why Tom | :47:28. | :47:33. | |
and I are serious about this people arts premium to make sure everyone | :47:34. | :47:37. | |
gets a chance. Don't leave it just those whose parents are able to | :47:38. | :47:42. | |
spend enough money to get their children into private theatre | :47:43. | :47:46. | |
schools or private music lessons. Let's make it mainstream. Do well in | :47:47. | :47:53. | |
music, you do well in maths. It is part and parcel of our creativity | :47:54. | :47:58. | |
and our lives. I think what we have proposed today in Hull is something | :47:59. | :48:03. | |
that will transform the cultural landscape of this country in exactly | :48:04. | :48:07. | |
the same way the 1960s Labour government led by Harold Wilson and | :48:08. | :48:16. | |
the fantastic Minister of arts, Jennie Lee, transformed the ideas | :48:17. | :48:18. | |
and notions of culture. There is creativity in us all, rich or poor. | :48:19. | :48:27. | |
Thank you very much. APPLAUSE Good morning and welcome to the | :48:28. | :49:43. | |
launch of the Conservative Party manifesto in Wales and it was in | :49:44. | :49:46. | |
north Wales the Prime Minister had the plans to call a general election | :49:47. | :49:52. | |
in the national interest. Our plan for a stronger Wales, | :49:53. | :49:56. | |
stronger Britain and prosperous future. As we leave the European | :49:57. | :50:03. | |
Union, union of the United Kingdom is more important now than ever | :50:04. | :50:08. | |
before, and as Secretary of State, I have seen it first hand, the Prime | :50:09. | :50:15. | |
Minister's commitment to Wales and the union. Since her very first | :50:16. | :50:20. | |
speech on the steps of Downing Street, Theresa May has put the | :50:21. | :50:23. | |
union at the heart of her programme for government. And we have a strong | :50:24. | :50:31. | |
record in Wales. City, region deals in Cardiff and Swansea with a | :50:32. | :50:34. | |
commitment to a north Wales growth deal. Investment in railways with | :50:35. | :50:39. | |
plans to modernise across Wales, and a fair funding formula, something | :50:40. | :50:43. | |
many had complained about for decades but it was this Prime | :50:44. | :50:48. | |
Minister who agreed a new funding settlement for Wales within her | :50:49. | :50:53. | |
first six months in office. But this manifesto is about our future, and | :50:54. | :50:59. | |
whatever plans we have, making a success of Brexit will be key. It | :51:00. | :51:09. | |
essential to our economy, central to our future stability and security. | :51:10. | :51:16. | |
At this time of change, change that could threaten the union, it has | :51:17. | :51:21. | |
never been more important to have a strong and stable leadership in the | :51:22. | :51:27. | |
national interest. A Prime Minister that is ready to take the difficult | :51:28. | :51:32. | |
decisions and ready to face 27 nations that could be lining up to | :51:33. | :51:39. | |
oppose us. I have the privilege to introduce someone that is a true | :51:40. | :51:44. | |
friend of Wales, a true champion of the union, and someone that will | :51:45. | :51:48. | |
always act in the interests of our whole country. Please welcome the | :51:49. | :51:56. | |
Prime Minister. APPLAUSE | :51:57. | :52:10. | |
Thank you very much and it is good to be here in Wrexham today with | :52:11. | :52:17. | |
just 17 days to go until this crucial general election. Just 11 | :52:18. | :52:24. | |
days after that, the European Union wants the Brexit negotiations to | :52:25. | :52:29. | |
begin. The UK's seat at the negotiating table will be filled by | :52:30. | :52:38. | |
me or Jeremy Corbyn. The deal we seek negotiated by me or Jeremy | :52:39. | :52:43. | |
Corbyn. There will be no time to waste and no time for a new | :52:44. | :52:47. | |
government to find its way so the stakes in this election are high. | :52:48. | :52:52. | |
Our future prosperity, our standard of living, our place in the world, | :52:53. | :52:56. | |
and the opportunities we want for our children and our children's | :52:57. | :53:01. | |
children are either in the strong hand you grant me by supporting my | :53:02. | :53:06. | |
candidates in this election or the weak hand off Jeremy Corbyn backed | :53:07. | :53:11. | |
by the Liberal Democrats, Plaid Cymru and the SNP who don't want | :53:12. | :53:16. | |
Brexit to succeed. It is your choice, your decision. Every vote | :53:17. | :53:22. | |
for me and my team in this election will be a vote to strengthen my hand | :53:23. | :53:27. | |
in the negotiations to come. Every vote for any other party - Labour, | :53:28. | :53:34. | |
the Liberal Democrats, Plaid Cymru - is a vote to send Jeremy Corbyn into | :53:35. | :53:39. | |
the negotiating chamber on our behalf and that is the stark reality | :53:40. | :53:43. | |
of the choice we must focus on over the next 17 days. Because our future | :53:44. | :53:49. | |
prosperity depends on getting the next five years right. That's why we | :53:50. | :53:56. | |
need someone representing Britain who is 100% committed to the cause. | :53:57. | :54:05. | |
Not someone who is uncertain or unsure, but someone utterly | :54:06. | :54:08. | |
determined to deliver the democratic will of the British people, because | :54:09. | :54:13. | |
if we don't get this right, the consequences for the United Kingdom | :54:14. | :54:16. | |
and for the economic security of ordinary working people will be | :54:17. | :54:24. | |
dire. If we do, the opportunities ahead are great. The Welsh | :54:25. | :54:28. | |
Conservative manifesto I launched today is a plan to make the most of | :54:29. | :54:33. | |
the opportunities together. It is a plan to make Wales and our union | :54:34. | :54:38. | |
stronger. For this manifesto sets out a vision of Britain around which | :54:39. | :54:44. | |
I believe we can all unite. It is the mainstream manifesto of a | :54:45. | :54:49. | |
mainstream party determined to deliver for mainstream Britain. And | :54:50. | :54:54. | |
to all those who work hard and make this country what it is, I say this | :54:55. | :55:01. | |
- if you have a job but don't always have job security, I am backing you. | :55:02. | :55:06. | |
If you own your own home but worry about paying the mortgage, I am | :55:07. | :55:11. | |
backing you. If you can just about manage but worry about the cost of | :55:12. | :55:14. | |
living and getting your children into a good school, I am backing | :55:15. | :55:19. | |
you. If you feel you have been let down and left behind by politics and | :55:20. | :55:25. | |
government for far too long, I am backing you. | :55:26. | :55:32. | |
APPLAUSE And to all the decent men, women and | :55:33. | :55:44. | |
families you meet in countless towns and villages across Wales and the | :55:45. | :55:50. | |
country, I am backing you. To those for whom life is often much harder | :55:51. | :55:56. | |
than many seem to think or realise, I am backing you. For those who want | :55:57. | :56:00. | |
to do their best for their children and given a fair chance to get on, I | :56:01. | :56:06. | |
am backing you. I am backing those who want a more secure and full | :56:07. | :56:11. | |
life. I am backing those whose only wish is that the children will do | :56:12. | :56:17. | |
better than themselves, and to those who look to the Government and | :56:18. | :56:22. | |
politicians for little help and support, I am backing you too. | :56:23. | :56:27. | |
Because too often in the past, ordinary working people have found | :56:28. | :56:31. | |
the help and support they need just isn't there. And I know that sense | :56:32. | :56:39. | |
of disenchantment is particularly acute here in Wales. We saw that | :56:40. | :56:43. | |
when people here in Wrexham and across Wales chose to ignore the | :56:44. | :56:48. | |
hysterical warnings of labour, Plaid Cymru and Liberal Democrat | :56:49. | :56:52. | |
politicians in Cardiff Bay and voted to leave the EU. We see it now in | :56:53. | :56:57. | |
the way the same politicians refuse to accept that vote as they try to | :56:58. | :57:03. | |
find new ways to put obstacles in our way and the cause of that | :57:04. | :57:11. | |
emerging golf is clear - it is because the Labour Party has taken | :57:12. | :57:13. | |
people in Wales granted for decades. They have been charging Cardiff Bay | :57:14. | :57:35. | |
for nearly 20 years. Some Parliamentary constituencies have | :57:36. | :57:38. | |
returned nothing but a Labour MP for a century or more. Welsh Labour have | :57:39. | :57:45. | |
come to believe they have a right to govern. Yet during their time in | :57:46. | :57:51. | |
charge, the performance of Wales' public services has fallen further | :57:52. | :57:57. | |
and further behind. The Welsh NHS is failing because Labour cut its | :57:58. | :58:01. | |
budget. The A waiting times and cancer treatment targets haven't | :58:02. | :58:03. | |
been met for nearly a decade. ' it is little wonder Welsh voters | :58:04. | :58:16. | |
chose to send a message to the politicians in the referendum last | :58:17. | :58:20. | |
June. That should have been a wake-up call, but it wasn't. Labour, | :58:21. | :58:26. | |
Plaid Cymru and Liberal Democrat politicians ignored Wales instead. | :58:27. | :58:30. | |
Worse, they closed ranks with Plaid Cymru propping up Labour in Wales in | :58:31. | :58:35. | |
order to defend the status quo, as they are determined to do in | :58:36. | :58:39. | |
Westminster too. That would put Jeremy Corbyn in power in a | :58:40. | :58:46. | |
coalition of chaos, and you don't negotiate the right Brexit deal for | :58:47. | :58:53. | |
Britain from a position of weakness. Jeremy Corbyn's coalition of chaos | :58:54. | :58:58. | |
would deliver higher taxes, higher debt and higher unemployment. | :58:59. | :59:01. | |
Labour's policies may have been written by Jeremy Corbyn in London, | :59:02. | :59:04. | |
but the people of Wales will get the bill. But it's not just that Jeremy | :59:05. | :59:10. | |
Corbyn is too weak and shambolic to get the right deal for Britain in | :59:11. | :59:15. | |
Europe, not just that his fantasy manifesto would leave families | :59:16. | :59:19. | |
across Wales picking up the bill, it is also that even traditional Labour | :59:20. | :59:26. | |
supporters, people like those in Wrexham and across Wales who have | :59:27. | :59:30. | |
loyally given the Labour Party allegiance for generations, people | :59:31. | :59:34. | |
taught by their parents and grandparents that Labour was a party | :59:35. | :59:38. | |
that shared their values and stood up for the community, they look at | :59:39. | :59:43. | |
what Jeremy Corbyn believes and they are appalled. They see a party that | :59:44. | :59:49. | |
once believed in hard work, now headed by Jeremy Corbyn who wants to | :59:50. | :59:52. | |
crush aspirations and desert those who hope for a better life. A party | :59:53. | :59:59. | |
that once stood for our union of Nations, now headed by a man who is | :00:00. | :00:03. | |
willing to collaborate with separatists in order to get into | :00:04. | :00:10. | |
power. A Labour Party that first established or independent nuclear | :00:11. | :00:13. | |
deterrent to keep our country safe, now led by a man who wants to get | :00:14. | :00:18. | |
rid of it and even talks about abolishing the army. The prospect of | :00:19. | :00:22. | |
him walking through the door of Number Ten, flanked by an avowed | :00:23. | :00:28. | |
Marxist like John McDonnell and an incompetent Diane Abbott, all | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
propped up by the Liberal Democrats, Plaid Cymru and others, should scare | :00:35. | :00:40. | |
us all. APPLAUSE The risk is real and the | :00:41. | :00:52. | |
stakes are high. A loss of just six seats will cost the Government | :00:53. | :00:59. | |
majority and create a hung parliament. Just six fewer MPs means | :01:00. | :01:03. | |
a hung parliament in which the minor parties will flock to prop up Jeremy | :01:04. | :01:09. | |
Corbyn. That will deliver nothing but chaos. It means Jeremy Corbyn | :01:10. | :01:15. | |
imposed as Prime Minister, propped up by the Lib Dems, Plaid Cymru | :01:16. | :01:21. | |
Anderson P, all of whom oppose the decision to leave the EU and want to | :01:22. | :01:27. | |
fight to keep us in. And who knows what deals Jeremy Corbyn will do to | :01:28. | :01:31. | |
get the support, because we know he would do anything to get their | :01:32. | :01:37. | |
support. And after the weekend, we now know the tactics he is prepared | :01:38. | :01:42. | |
to adopt to get into Number Ten. He has no strong plan for Britain, | :01:43. | :01:46. | |
which takes on the country's long-term challenges like I have. He | :01:47. | :01:52. | |
wants to sneak over the line by manipulating the fears of old and | :01:53. | :01:56. | |
vulnerable people and falsely claiming families will lose their | :01:57. | :02:00. | |
house as a result of our social care policy. That is shameful, and it is | :02:01. | :02:05. | |
a shameful abdication of responsibility. | :02:06. | :02:14. | |
So today, I want to put an end to Jeremy Corbyn's fake claims and | :02:15. | :02:21. | |
clarify any doubts about our social care policy and the family home. My | :02:22. | :02:27. | |
manifesto is honest and upfront about our challenges. It includes | :02:28. | :02:32. | |
plans to strengthen the social care system with more unsustainable | :02:33. | :02:37. | |
funding to cope with the long-term pressures caused by the fact that we | :02:38. | :02:43. | |
are an ageing society. Jeremy Corbyn wants to duck this reality and play | :02:44. | :02:47. | |
politics. But there will be 2 million more people over 75 years | :02:48. | :02:53. | |
old in Britain over the next decade alone. Our social care system will | :02:54. | :02:58. | |
collapse unless we make some important decisions now about how we | :02:59. | :03:03. | |
fund it. That is why we have two act. And it is why, to give people | :03:04. | :03:12. | |
security, we included in our plans, measures to make sure that nobody | :03:13. | :03:16. | |
has to sell the family home to play -- to pay for care. And we also said | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
that we would protect ?100,000 of your savings. So however expensive | :03:21. | :03:26. | |
your care, you can pass something onto your family. Let's be clear. | :03:27. | :03:33. | |
This plan replaces the existing system, where people often get poor | :03:34. | :03:38. | |
quality care and stand to lose almost all their savings and assets | :03:39. | :03:43. | |
including the family home. This plan addresses the worry people have when | :03:44. | :03:47. | |
they have a loved one with a long-term condition and they don't | :03:48. | :03:50. | |
know how they are going to afford to care for them. So these are good and | :03:51. | :03:56. | |
sensible plans. They provide the beginning of a solution to social | :03:57. | :04:00. | |
care, without increasing taxes on younger generations. And I should | :04:01. | :04:07. | |
say, we are the only party in this election prepared to face up to the | :04:08. | :04:11. | |
reality of our ageing society and offer a long-term solution. But | :04:12. | :04:18. | |
since my manifesto was published, the proposals have been subject to | :04:19. | :04:22. | |
fake claims made by Jeremy Corbyn. The only things he has left to offer | :04:23. | :04:27. | |
in this campaign are fake claims, fear and scaremongering. So I want | :04:28. | :04:33. | |
to make a further point clear. This manifesto says that we will come | :04:34. | :04:38. | |
forward with a consultation paper. A government Green paper. And that | :04:39. | :04:41. | |
consultation will include an absolute limit on the amount people | :04:42. | :04:46. | |
have to pay for their care costs. So let me reiterate, we're proposing | :04:47. | :04:51. | |
the right funding model for social care. We will make sure nobody has | :04:52. | :04:56. | |
to sell their family home to pay for care. We will make sure there is an | :04:57. | :04:59. | |
absolute limit on what people need to pay. And you will never have to | :05:00. | :05:04. | |
go below ?100,000 of your savings, so you will always have something to | :05:05. | :05:10. | |
pass on to your family. And what is Jeremy Corbyn's plan? He promises a | :05:11. | :05:14. | |
nonsensical fantasy policy that can only be funded through massive tax | :05:15. | :05:20. | |
rises on younger generations. In fact, just recently, he threatened | :05:21. | :05:24. | |
to increase the basic rate of income tax for millions of people from 20 | :05:25. | :05:30. | |
to 25%, to fund social care. That tells you everything you need to | :05:31. | :05:34. | |
know about Jeremy Corbyn's answer to the problem. The alternative is that | :05:35. | :05:39. | |
he sticks to the status quo, which too often provide support care and | :05:40. | :05:43. | |
leaves old and vulnerable people having to sell their family homes. | :05:44. | :05:51. | |
This manifesto, our -- our manifesto, provides a better way. | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
With it I am leading Britain while Mr Corbyn is simply scaremongering | :05:56. | :05:58. | |
among the elderly and the vulnerable. It is a strong forays -- | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
plan for a stronger union and a stronger Wales. It plan to respond | :06:04. | :06:06. | |
to and deliver on the concerns of ordinary working people everywhere. | :06:07. | :06:11. | |
A plan to build a country that works for everyone not the privileged few. | :06:12. | :06:15. | |
It is a detailed programme for government. Rooted in the hopes and | :06:16. | :06:22. | |
aspirations of ordinary working people in towns and cities across | :06:23. | :06:27. | |
the country. A clear plan to meet the big challenges we face together. | :06:28. | :06:32. | |
Because unlike the other parties, we are being upfront and honest with | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
the British people about the scale of the task we face. That is what | :06:37. | :06:45. | |
leadership is about. Not ducking the big decisions. Painting grand and | :06:46. | :06:48. | |
fantastical visions, pretending you can have something for nothing, and | :06:49. | :06:53. | |
no difficult decisions need to be made. Leadership means being | :06:54. | :06:55. | |
straight with people about the challenges ahead and the hard work | :06:56. | :07:02. | |
required to overcome them. And that is what this manifesto does. It sets | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
out the five great challenges faced by our country. One, the need for a | :07:08. | :07:12. | |
strong economy. Two, responded to Brexit and a changing world. Three, | :07:13. | :07:17. | |
tackling enduring social divisions. Four, responding to an ageing | :07:18. | :07:23. | |
society. And five, facing up to fast changing technology. And it sets out | :07:24. | :07:28. | |
what we will do to address each one. And these are challenges that we all | :07:29. | :07:31. | |
face, right across our United Kingdom. And the lesson of Britain's | :07:32. | :07:37. | |
history is that we all do best when we tackle challenges together. | :07:38. | :07:43. | |
United. That is how we have overcome obstacles in the past. And that is | :07:44. | :07:46. | |
how we will make a success of our future. In setting out our plan, we | :07:47. | :07:52. | |
are offering a vision for our United Kingdom not just for the next five | :07:53. | :07:57. | |
years, but for the years and decades beyond. A country where everyone has | :07:58. | :08:01. | |
the economic security they need and the chance to live a secure and full | :08:02. | :08:07. | |
life. A prosperous country, where each generation can do better than | :08:08. | :08:15. | |
the last. But that all starts with getting the right Brexit deal. One | :08:16. | :08:18. | |
that works for the whole United Kingdom. When I sit down with the | :08:19. | :08:26. | |
Prime Minister's -- PMs, chancellors of Europe, I would do so as the | :08:27. | :08:30. | |
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland. When I fight | :08:31. | :08:34. | |
for the best deal, it will be a deal that works for the whole of the | :08:35. | :08:36. | |
United Kingdom. And when I talk about a better future for our | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
country, I mean the whole United Kingdom. Because unlike Jeremy | :08:41. | :08:45. | |
Corbyn, I believe heart and soul in this great union of Nations. And if | :08:46. | :08:50. | |
you give me your backing to represent you at the negotiating | :08:51. | :08:53. | |
table in Europe in the months ahead, I will fight for every person in | :08:54. | :08:58. | |
this United Kingdom. Young and old, rich and poor, city, town, country, | :08:59. | :09:03. | |
and all the villages and hamlets in between. It is my fierce | :09:04. | :09:07. | |
determination to get the right deal for every single person in this | :09:08. | :09:11. | |
country. And every vote for me and my team in this election will | :09:12. | :09:16. | |
strengthen my hand at the negotiations and help me deliver the | :09:17. | :09:20. | |
right deal for Britain. A vote for anyone else is a vote to send Jeremy | :09:21. | :09:24. | |
Corbyn to represent us in Europe instead. Because it may say Labour, | :09:25. | :09:32. | |
Liberal Democrat or Plaid Cymru on the ballot, but it is Jeremy Corbyn | :09:33. | :09:37. | |
that gets the vote. And if we get Brexit right, if we are strong in | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
our negotiations with the EU, we can do more to build a stronger Britain | :09:42. | :09:45. | |
and a stronger Wales here at home. Too often in the past, UK | :09:46. | :09:50. | |
governments have tended to devolve and forget. The government Eilidh | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
will put that right. That is why this manifesto contains clear | :09:56. | :10:00. | |
commitments to spread opportunity and prosperity beyond London and the | :10:01. | :10:06. | |
south-east, and to improve the economic security of people here in | :10:07. | :10:11. | |
Wales. Why it includes a specific commitment to bring forward in North | :10:12. | :10:14. | |
Wales growth deal, connecting North Wales with Northern England, to | :10:15. | :10:19. | |
encourage cross-border working, building on the success of the | :10:20. | :10:23. | |
Cardiff City deal, and Swansea Bay city deal that I signed in south | :10:24. | :10:28. | |
Wales just a few weeks ago. It is why we are committed to bringing | :10:29. | :10:30. | |
down the barriers to trade and commerce between South Wales and the | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
wider UK, by scrapping the tolls on the Severn crossings for good. | :10:36. | :10:40. | |
Helping 25 million drivers who use the crossings every year, and | :10:41. | :10:44. | |
providing a ?100 million boost to the local economy. It is why we will | :10:45. | :10:48. | |
introduce a new UK chaired prosperity fund, replacing | :10:49. | :10:52. | |
ineffective and restrictive EU structural funds with a new targeted | :10:53. | :10:58. | |
scheme, whose sole purpose would be to reduce the inequalities that | :10:59. | :11:02. | |
exist within and between the four nations of our United Kingdom. And | :11:03. | :11:07. | |
it is why as we leave the European Union, we will ensure that power | :11:08. | :11:10. | |
sits close to the people of the UK than ever before. That is why as | :11:11. | :11:16. | |
powers are repatriated to the UK, we expect to be able to increase the | :11:17. | :11:21. | |
decision-making powers of the well Scotland. As long as no new barriers | :11:22. | :11:32. | |
are created between a rowing union. We will ensure the industrial | :11:33. | :11:35. | |
strategy will benefit people, towns and businesses across Wales. That | :11:36. | :11:38. | |
will help to create the high skilled, highly paid jobs of the | :11:39. | :11:42. | |
future. And give our young people every chance of getting on and | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
leading a full and happy life. As Prime Minister of this United | :11:48. | :11:51. | |
Kingdom, that is what I want everyone our country. That is | :11:52. | :11:58. | |
because of a simple truth. Across the United Kingdom, we may be four | :11:59. | :12:03. | |
nations. But at heart we are one people. And we achieve more | :12:04. | :12:07. | |
together. APPLAUSE. | :12:08. | :12:21. | |
We all have a stake in each other's success. We all have a stake in our | :12:22. | :12:28. | |
shared future. That is why this election is so important. Because | :12:29. | :12:34. | |
this election more than any other is about the long-term future of our | :12:35. | :12:39. | |
country. Not just about the next five years. But the years beyond. | :12:40. | :12:44. | |
Not just about our future but the future of our children and our | :12:45. | :12:49. | |
children's children, too. We can get the best possible deal from Brexit. | :12:50. | :12:53. | |
We can redouble our efforts to make things better here at home. And we | :12:54. | :12:58. | |
can show that with hard work, with a clear vision and the right plan, a | :12:59. | :13:04. | |
mainstream, active, determined government can deliver a better, | :13:05. | :13:07. | |
more secure future for ordinary working people across this land. We | :13:08. | :13:11. | |
need strong and stable leadership to do it. There are just 17 days to go. | :13:12. | :13:21. | |
11 days after that, the Europeans want the Brexit talks to begin. And | :13:22. | :13:27. | |
the UK's seat at the negotiating table will be filled by me or Jeremy | :13:28. | :13:35. | |
Corbyn. The deal will -- we seek, negotiated by me, or Jeremy Corbyn. | :13:36. | :13:38. | |
They will be no time to waste. And no time for a new government to find | :13:39. | :13:46. | |
its way. So focus on that choice. Support my candidates here in Wales. | :13:47. | :13:51. | |
Give me the strong hand I need to deliver Brexit. Give me that strong | :13:52. | :13:55. | |
hand and I will deliver for Britain. Give me your support. And with | :13:56. | :14:01. | |
confidence in ourselves, and with a unity of purpose in our country, we | :14:02. | :14:09. | |
can and we will go forward together. APPLAUSE. | :14:10. | :14:29. | |
Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Now I will | :14:30. | :14:37. | |
take some questions from the media. Laura... Thank you, Prime Minister. | :14:38. | :14:47. | |
Laura Kuenssberg, BBC News. You have today again, and repeatedly through | :14:48. | :14:50. | |
this campaign, attacked Jeremy Corbyn forbidding on and unsure come | :14:51. | :14:57. | |
to use your phrase. -- for being uncertain. But you have just | :14:58. | :15:00. | |
announced a significant change to what was announced in your | :15:01. | :15:03. | |
manifesto, to say there will now be the possibility of a cab on social | :15:04. | :15:08. | |
care. That was not in the plans announced four days ago. That does | :15:09. | :15:11. | |
not look strong and stable, does it? Looks rather like panic in the face | :15:12. | :15:16. | |
of opposition. And can you tell us today where the cab on social care | :15:17. | :15:18. | |
costs will be set? What we set out in our manifesto is | :15:19. | :15:30. | |
a long-term plan for securing a sustainable future. Schalke in this | :15:31. | :15:33. | |
country. So I said, if you look at the figures, the number of over | :15:34. | :15:40. | |
75-year-old, two million more within the next decade, our social care | :15:41. | :15:43. | |
system will collapse unless we address this problem, and we cannot | :15:44. | :15:48. | |
leave it to the future, we have to start dealing with it now. That is | :15:49. | :15:53. | |
why I want to fix it and I am going to fix it, and the plans that we set | :15:54. | :15:56. | |
out with very clear in the manifesto, you can look in the | :15:57. | :16:01. | |
manifesto, Laura, I think it was page 6465, we said we would issue a | :16:02. | :16:05. | |
green paper, and within that we will be consulting on the details of the | :16:06. | :16:11. | |
proposals and the principles that we have set out. What is important is | :16:12. | :16:16. | |
that we have seen, over the last few days, Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour | :16:17. | :16:19. | |
Party trying to scare vulnerable and elderly people by telling them, and | :16:20. | :16:24. | |
trying to suggest, that they would lose their family homes to pay for | :16:25. | :16:30. | |
their care. Nobody is going to have to pay for their care, nobody is | :16:31. | :16:34. | |
going to have to, while they are alive, nobody is going to have to | :16:35. | :16:40. | |
lose their family home. We will ensure that people are able to pass | :16:41. | :16:46. | |
on savings to their children. That is the proposals that we have put | :16:47. | :16:53. | |
forward. It is the right way to deal with this problem that we all face, | :16:54. | :16:57. | |
and we need to deal with it now. APPLAUSE | :16:58. | :17:06. | |
Robert, Sky? Thanks very much, Robert Nisbet from | :17:07. | :17:14. | |
Sky News. You talk about a coalition of chaos, but isn't this a manifesto | :17:15. | :17:18. | |
of chaos now? What else are you going to clarify within the next few | :17:19. | :17:22. | |
days? And what message do you think this is sending out to those Prime | :17:23. | :17:26. | |
Ministers and chancellors around Europe that you are prepared to be | :17:27. | :17:30. | |
so flexible with what you originally set down in stone? I think the | :17:31. | :17:34. | |
message that our manifesto sets out is that, as a party and as a leader, | :17:35. | :17:42. | |
I and we the party are prepared to be honest with people about the | :17:43. | :17:46. | |
challenges that we face, and are prepared to set forward the hard | :17:47. | :17:50. | |
decisions that have to be taken, but a way forward that ensures we are | :17:51. | :17:54. | |
looking after the interests of ordinary working people across this | :17:55. | :17:57. | |
country. And I think what people will see across this country is that | :17:58. | :18:01. | |
they do you have a choice. They have a choice between Jeremy Corbyn being | :18:02. | :18:06. | |
propped up by votes for any other party in this country, or a | :18:07. | :18:09. | |
government led by me which will provide that strong and stable | :18:10. | :18:12. | |
leadership, which will ensure that we are being honest with each other | :18:13. | :18:16. | |
about the challenges we face, and have a plan to fix those. That is | :18:17. | :18:22. | |
the aborted thing. We will fix those challenges, we will address them, | :18:23. | :18:24. | |
and we will also build a stronger Britain and a better future. Emily. | :18:25. | :18:33. | |
Prime Minister, Emily Morgan, ITV Use. You say you are prepared to | :18:34. | :18:37. | |
take the difficult decisions, but you have just buckled under pressure | :18:38. | :18:42. | |
over your social care plans. Isn't this U-turn just a cynical attempt | :18:43. | :18:46. | |
to stop voters leaving you in droves? Look, first of all, let's be | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
clear - we have not changed the principles that we set out in the | :18:52. | :18:54. | |
manifesto. We are very clear about the principles on which this system | :18:55. | :18:58. | |
will operate and will be based. What we have done is clarified that, in | :18:59. | :19:05. | |
the green paper, which will be a consultation document, we will have | :19:06. | :19:09. | |
a upper limit, absolute limit on the amount that people will pay for | :19:10. | :19:13. | |
care. But the basic principles remain absolutely the same as when | :19:14. | :19:17. | |
they were put in the manifesto and announced last week, that nobody is | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
going to have to pay for their care while they are alive, that nobody is | :19:22. | :19:24. | |
going to have to have their family homes sold while they are living in | :19:25. | :19:30. | |
it, and that everybody will be able, where they have that, to pass | :19:31. | :19:35. | |
?100,000 onto their families. That is four times the limit that | :19:36. | :19:41. | |
currently exists at the moment. This is a good arrangement, it ensures | :19:42. | :19:44. | |
that people can pass savings to their families, it ensures they have | :19:45. | :19:48. | |
the peace of mind, rather than sitting there month after month, | :19:49. | :19:51. | |
worrying about the money going out of their bank account to pay for | :19:52. | :19:54. | |
their care, worrying about what is going to happen in the future, this | :19:55. | :19:59. | |
takes that worry away from people. But it also ensures that we have a | :20:00. | :20:03. | |
sustainable system for funding social care for the future. That is | :20:04. | :20:06. | |
the challenge we need to address, we are the only party that is doing it. | :20:07. | :20:16. | |
Michael. Michael Crick, Channel 4 News. I don't recall a U-turn on a | :20:17. | :20:21. | |
manifesto in any election campaign. Now we've had national insurance and | :20:22. | :20:26. | |
this. As Margaret Thatcher might have said, you turn if you want for | :20:27. | :20:34. | |
turning, the lady is for turning - doesn't this show that you are | :20:35. | :20:38. | |
really weak and waffly, not strong and stable? Can you give an idea of | :20:39. | :20:44. | |
what the cap will be, 100,000, 200,000, half a million? Don't the | :20:45. | :20:47. | |
people of this country have a right to know what the cap will be? We | :20:48. | :20:54. | |
have not changed the principles of the policy that we set out in our | :20:55. | :21:02. | |
manifesto. Those policies... Those policies remain exactly the same. | :21:03. | :21:06. | |
There will be aspects of how this operates that we will consult on | :21:07. | :21:10. | |
through the green paper. We were honest that we were going to have a | :21:11. | :21:13. | |
green paper and we would be consulting people on how the system | :21:14. | :21:16. | |
operates. What we have done, which other parties have singularly failed | :21:17. | :21:23. | |
to do, is to recognise the challenge that we face, to respect the needs | :21:24. | :21:27. | |
and concerns of the British people, and to provide a long-term plan for | :21:28. | :21:32. | |
sustainable social care, which means that elderly people in this country | :21:33. | :21:37. | |
won't have to worry about how their social care will be paid for in the | :21:38. | :21:42. | |
future. Now, do we have the daily post here before I go to the...? | :21:43. | :21:49. | |
Yes. Shane Brennan, Daily Post. What guarantees can you give the Welsh | :21:50. | :21:53. | |
farmers and manufacturers that they will have access to tariff free | :21:54. | :21:57. | |
markets after Brexit? Well, we want to insure that we'd negotiate a | :21:58. | :22:00. | |
comprehensive free trade agreement with the European Union. We want | :22:01. | :22:07. | |
that, I mean, obviously, we will be working to have as tariff free and | :22:08. | :22:10. | |
frictionless a trade arrangement with the rest of the remaining | :22:11. | :22:13. | |
member states of the European Union after we leave the EU. What we will | :22:14. | :22:19. | |
also provide for Welsh farmers, and for farmers across the United | :22:20. | :22:23. | |
Kingdom, is we will be able, across the United Kingdom, to decide the | :22:24. | :22:28. | |
support system for farming that actually works for Welsh farmers, | :22:29. | :22:31. | |
for farmers across the rest of the United Kingdom. It will be a system | :22:32. | :22:35. | |
that simply else has devised for a wider group, it will be for us to be | :22:36. | :22:39. | |
able to have that system of support for farmers and to ensure that the | :22:40. | :22:42. | |
support being provided is as effective as possible. Chris. Chris | :22:43. | :22:53. | |
Hope, the Telegraph. Two quick questions, yes or no, will anything | :22:54. | :22:57. | |
else in the manifesto change between now and Juliet? Second question, | :22:58. | :23:02. | |
quickly, why, as Home Secretary, did you grant asylum to the Libyan man | :23:03. | :23:05. | |
arrested by police for the murder of Yvonne Fletcher? Well, on the latter | :23:06. | :23:10. | |
point, there are rules about how asylum is granted, and any decisions | :23:11. | :23:17. | |
that are taken are taken legally and in accordance with the law of this | :23:18. | :23:22. | |
country. And on the first question, nothing has changed! Nothing has | :23:23. | :23:29. | |
changed. We are offering a long-term solution for the sustainability of | :23:30. | :23:35. | |
social care for the future. We are ensuring that people, elderly | :23:36. | :23:37. | |
people, will not have to worry, they will be able to ensure that their | :23:38. | :23:42. | |
care, whether it is in the home or for them to go into a home, is being | :23:43. | :23:46. | |
paid for and they won't have to worry about those bills month after | :23:47. | :23:51. | |
month after month. And they will have the confidence of knowing that | :23:52. | :23:55. | |
they can pass ?100,000 of savings on to their children. Nothing has | :23:56. | :24:01. | |
changed. We will consult on how the system operates, and we will do that | :24:02. | :24:10. | |
through a green paper. Er... Anybody else? Sorry, I can't see, I think | :24:11. | :24:17. | |
that was the last hand. Jessica Alcock, the Guardian. In case I am | :24:18. | :24:21. | |
missing something, this dementia tax would apply to someone who dies a | :24:22. | :24:27. | |
longer death from dementia, but if you dialogue and death from cancer, | :24:28. | :24:31. | |
you would have the inheritance tax threshold as ?1 million, whereas it | :24:32. | :24:35. | |
reduces to 100,000 in this case, that is still the case, isn't it? Go | :24:36. | :24:42. | |
you are using terms that have been used by the Labour Party to try and | :24:43. | :24:45. | |
scare people in this country. This is a system that will ensure people | :24:46. | :24:49. | |
who are faced with the prospect of either requiring care in their own | :24:50. | :24:54. | |
home more or needing to go into a home for care, are able to see that | :24:55. | :24:58. | |
support provided for them and don't have to worry that month by month | :24:59. | :25:02. | |
basis about where the funding is coming. They won't have to sell | :25:03. | :25:08. | |
their family home while they are alive, they won't have to be | :25:09. | :25:12. | |
worrying, as I say, about those sums of money going out of the bag | :25:13. | :25:15. | |
account each month, and they will be up to pass savings on to their | :25:16. | :25:21. | |
children. This is... This is a policy which ensures sustainability | :25:22. | :25:24. | |
for our social care system going into the future, and we need that, | :25:25. | :25:29. | |
because our system will collapse, with our ageing society, unless we | :25:30. | :25:34. | |
do take the decisions we need. As I said, when I was speaking, the only | :25:35. | :25:38. | |
suggestion that Jeremy Corbyn made about paying for social care was to | :25:39. | :25:43. | |
put up the taxes, the basic rate of tax from ?20 up to 25p so younger | :25:44. | :25:47. | |
generations would have been paying for that. Thank you. | :25:48. | :25:48. | |
APPLAUSE I wanted to talk about protecting | :25:49. | :26:26. | |
older people. The Conservative plan to confiscate | :26:27. | :26:30. | |
assets pound for pound from elderly people to pay for their social care | :26:31. | :26:35. | |
is the worst and stupid public policy proposal of recent years, and | :26:36. | :26:42. | |
the nastiest too, in effect, if not in intention. It cannot be allowed | :26:43. | :26:46. | |
to be implemented in its current form. The Prime Minister is | :26:47. | :26:52. | |
effectively proposing a 100% inheritance tax on assets over | :26:53. | :26:59. | |
?100,000 for those unlucky enough to develop a debilitating, long-term | :27:00. | :27:03. | |
condition that requires domiciliary care, such as dementia or acute | :27:04. | :27:09. | |
arthritis, for instance. Every ?1 spent on care for these and | :27:10. | :27:12. | |
fortunate people will be claimed back from either, at the time they | :27:13. | :27:17. | |
receive it, or from their estate when they die. Now, most policies | :27:18. | :27:23. | |
that intrude on personal finances concern tens of pounds, such as | :27:24. | :27:28. | |
insurance tax rises, for instance, or hundreds of pounds at most, such | :27:29. | :27:32. | |
as Ukip's excellent proposals to cut the cost of living, saving | :27:33. | :27:38. | |
households ?400 a year by taking taxes off domestic energy and other | :27:39. | :27:43. | |
measures. But this Tory death tax is in an altogether different league. | :27:44. | :27:47. | |
It could involve taking tens of thousands or even hundreds of | :27:48. | :27:52. | |
thousands of pounds out of someone's estate, if they have been an lucky | :27:53. | :27:57. | |
enough to suffer an extended, debilitating condition later life. | :27:58. | :28:02. | |
Damian Green seems to feel he is qualified to tell people how much is | :28:03. | :28:06. | |
reasonable for them to pass on to their children, but the financial | :28:07. | :28:10. | |
exposure the Tories are leaving millions of elderly people is not | :28:11. | :28:17. | |
reasonable at all. In fact, this is a Russian roulette approach to | :28:18. | :28:22. | |
paying for social care, and the abrogation of government | :28:23. | :28:25. | |
responsibility. It makes a mockery of the claims of Mrs May and Nick | :28:26. | :28:32. | |
Ahad advisors to be running a communitarian Conservative | :28:33. | :28:36. | |
administration. Just consider typical house prices in parts of the | :28:37. | :28:39. | |
country, particularly but not exclusively in southern England. In | :28:40. | :28:43. | |
Dagenham, for example, average house prices are too good ?95,000. In | :28:44. | :28:52. | |
Thurrock, ?338,000. In Ramsgate, 210,000. In Epping, more than | :28:53. | :28:59. | |
?500,000. Homeowners requiring domiciliary social care are | :29:00. | :29:01. | |
typically people who have paid off their mortgages and therefore owed | :29:02. | :29:06. | |
all or nearly all of the value of the house, so in these ordinary | :29:07. | :29:12. | |
Ingolstadt was that I have listed, anything from 110,000-400,000 will | :29:13. | :29:18. | |
be exposed to the Tory death tax. The Prime Minister seems to wish to | :29:19. | :29:22. | |
avoid scrutiny on heavyweight political programmes in this | :29:23. | :29:25. | |
election. She went on the One Show recently. If she sticks to this | :29:26. | :29:30. | |
policy, her next appearance should be on Total Wipe-out, because that | :29:31. | :29:35. | |
is what she is planning to do to the estates of many elderly people. The | :29:36. | :29:40. | |
Conservatives have created a cult of the leader under Mrs May, but if | :29:41. | :29:43. | |
they persist with this policy in its current form, they will soon find | :29:44. | :29:48. | |
out that this is not North Korea. The British public free thinkers who | :29:49. | :29:53. | |
do not take kindly to being treated like fools. Older voters in | :29:54. | :29:56. | |
particular are not going to brainwashed into voting for Kim | :29:57. | :30:07. | |
Yong-may and against their own interest in such a scale. It is | :30:08. | :30:11. | |
often said that when there is weak opposition, the danger of bad | :30:12. | :30:13. | |
government escalates, and that is what we are seeing with the Tory | :30:14. | :30:17. | |
death tax. Mrs May's Tories think they can do what they like. This | :30:18. | :30:21. | |
policy is not just a dementia tax, it is effectively a tax on all forms | :30:22. | :30:27. | |
of debilitating disease and infirmity that need an elderly | :30:28. | :30:28. | |
person to need social care. Every extra week they live will lead | :30:29. | :30:38. | |
to a further loss of equity and what they can hang onto their children. | :30:39. | :30:43. | |
This will undoubtedly lead to an extra psychological toll on people | :30:44. | :30:49. | |
already with disease. At the extreme end of the spectrum it's likely to | :30:50. | :30:53. | |
make some elderly people feel regretful to still be alive. The | :30:54. | :31:00. | |
Tory policy will also pour some specific knowledge -- anomalies and | :31:01. | :31:12. | |
consequences... What happens, for instance, if a grown-up child is | :31:13. | :31:17. | |
sharing the house but working full-time? Does the house gets sold | :31:18. | :31:22. | |
immediately on the death of the elderly person? If so, that would | :31:23. | :31:27. | |
render someone homeless just as they have lost a parent, or if not, it | :31:28. | :31:35. | |
will lead to anomalies and sculpture of the avoidance. If this scheme is | :31:36. | :31:38. | |
implemented in its present form, it will create a whole new tax | :31:39. | :31:42. | |
avoidance industry, with elderly people piling intellect to release | :31:43. | :31:47. | |
schemes and being given incentives to go on spending sprees to get the | :31:48. | :31:51. | |
remaining value of their assets down under ?100,000. The message from | :31:52. | :31:57. | |
government would be, don't be successful, and don't be financially | :31:58. | :32:00. | |
responsible either. Another even more serious perverse outcome could | :32:01. | :32:05. | |
be that people who need social care refused to accept it and try and | :32:06. | :32:10. | |
model through in order to preserve their estate. With the inevitable | :32:11. | :32:17. | |
result they suffer far more falls and other accidents around the home, | :32:18. | :32:20. | |
which then necessitate long and expensive hospital stays or even | :32:21. | :32:25. | |
bring about their premature death. This is a devastating death tax | :32:26. | :32:32. | |
dreamt up on the back of an envelope and apparently winging its way to | :32:33. | :32:35. | |
the Tory manifesto without consultation with expert opinion, | :32:36. | :32:40. | |
the Cabinet or even the ministers in charge of the policy area in | :32:41. | :32:46. | |
government. It doesn't have to be this way, word governments to make | :32:47. | :32:50. | |
better and different choices on public spending. What is needed | :32:51. | :32:54. | |
first is an immediate and substantial injection of money into | :32:55. | :32:58. | |
the social care system. Because Ukip is prepared to cut unjustified | :32:59. | :33:05. | |
public spending on the Barnett formula, HS2 and overseas aid, we | :33:06. | :33:11. | |
are able to offer just such a financial boost, and will do so when | :33:12. | :33:14. | |
we set out our manifesto on Wednesday. But longer term, we also | :33:15. | :33:21. | |
need an agreed way forward for social care to ensure that risk is | :33:22. | :33:26. | |
fairly pooled and builds our fairly paid. Possible solutions range from | :33:27. | :33:30. | |
a national care service, as set out by Andy Burnham some years ago, to | :33:31. | :33:36. | |
insurance policies and products that people can be encouraged to invest | :33:37. | :33:41. | |
in. The Andy Burnham route may have something to commend it if the | :33:42. | :33:44. | |
public could be assured the resources of a national care service | :33:45. | :33:49. | |
funded out of tax revenue could be protected against freeloading, for | :33:50. | :33:53. | |
instance by new arrivals from other countries. I'm afraid that hurdle | :33:54. | :33:58. | |
would not be cleared if Labour were in government, because Labour has a | :33:59. | :34:01. | |
reputation for being generous to a fault with other people's money. | :34:02. | :34:07. | |
Were I in the shoes of the Tories today, the first thing I would do | :34:08. | :34:11. | |
would be to recognise that Denis Healey's law of holes is now in | :34:12. | :34:16. | |
play. For the uninitiated, I should explain this law is very concise and | :34:17. | :34:23. | |
simply state in regard to a hole, when you are in one, stop digging. | :34:24. | :34:27. | |
Declaring financial war and millions of retired people who spent working | :34:28. | :34:34. | |
life being responsible and building up assets does not amount to | :34:35. | :34:37. | |
compassionate conservatism. It amounts betrayal. So I offer this | :34:38. | :34:43. | |
advice to team Teresa Lu. Why don't you at least offer people a | :34:44. | :34:49. | |
meaningful choice? That is after all what conservatism used to be about. | :34:50. | :34:54. | |
So why not give people an option of chipping in to a voluntary social | :34:55. | :35:00. | |
care costs insurance system run by government from say the age of 50? | :35:01. | :35:05. | |
If people pay in and then need care, they are covered and should not be | :35:06. | :35:10. | |
charged a penny. If, however, they have chosen not to pay in, then at | :35:11. | :35:14. | |
least you would have the semblance of an argument for reclaim the costs | :35:15. | :35:19. | |
from estates after death. If you did this, you could even claim to be | :35:20. | :35:22. | |
adding to your manifesto proposal rather than abounding in it | :35:23. | :35:28. | |
altogether. -- abandoning it. Therefore sparing the blushes of | :35:29. | :35:35. | |
Tarquin without proper stress testing or scrutiny. One could tell | :35:36. | :35:39. | |
from the demeanour of Tory ministers sent out to bat for this policy on | :35:40. | :35:43. | |
the political programmes yesterday, that they knew they were on a loser. | :35:44. | :35:48. | |
So far the conservative newspapers have not really got stuck into the | :35:49. | :35:53. | |
policy with full figure. The ones that care about their readers will | :35:54. | :35:58. | |
do so this week. Because it is an unforgivable attack on the -- | :35:59. | :36:05. | |
responsible and hard-working people. My message to all those who may be | :36:06. | :36:09. | |
hit by the Tory policy but would never eat vote for Jeremy Corbyn's | :36:10. | :36:14. | |
Labour, is simple. Ask yourself what has been the best way to influence | :36:15. | :36:20. | |
the Conservative Party's behaviour and policies in the recent past? And | :36:21. | :36:26. | |
the answer is obvious. By voting Ukip, or at least threatening to | :36:27. | :36:31. | |
vote Ukip, look how it worked on Brexit, look how it is working on | :36:32. | :36:36. | |
grammar schools. So if I were in your shoes, I would tell Tory | :36:37. | :36:40. | |
campaigners on the doorstep that you are going to vote Ukip for a | :36:41. | :36:46. | |
common-sense and fairer approach. And if you do that, there is a | :36:47. | :36:50. | |
strong possibility this policy will be ditched altogether, or at least | :36:51. | :36:53. | |
greatly modified by the end of the week. I want to turn briefly to the | :36:54. | :36:59. | |
second leg of the Tory attack on the elderly, on the issue of winter fuel | :37:00. | :37:04. | |
allowance. The Conservatives tell us they will means tested but will not | :37:05. | :37:08. | |
say at what income level people will lose it. Pensioners can be forgiven | :37:09. | :37:12. | |
for suspecting that vast majority of them would no longer be eligible. | :37:13. | :37:16. | |
The Tories have claimed to be making a principled case against | :37:17. | :37:22. | |
Universalism in this area. And for replacing it with an assessment of | :37:23. | :37:27. | |
need. So how come the very next day after unveiling the plan, the Prime | :37:28. | :37:33. | |
Minister was helping Ruth Davidson to launch a Scottish Tory manifesto | :37:34. | :37:37. | |
that placed to keep the allowance for all pensioners north of the | :37:38. | :37:42. | |
border. --? This is yet another example of the English and indeed | :37:43. | :37:45. | |
the wells being treated as second-class citizens within the UK. | :37:46. | :37:50. | |
There is simply no good reason why a millionaire pensioner in Edinburgh | :37:51. | :37:56. | |
should receive an allowance of up to ?300 million -- three to pay full | :37:57. | :38:00. | |
interview will, while pensioners on modest incomes in Essex get nothing. | :38:01. | :38:06. | |
It is the Barnett formula which leads to public spending in Scotland | :38:07. | :38:10. | |
being ?1700 per head higher than it is in England. That is what is | :38:11. | :38:16. | |
behind this. It is another vindication of the Ukip policy of | :38:17. | :38:19. | |
dumping that formula and replacing it with a needs -based funding | :38:20. | :38:26. | |
system instead. So Mrs May's social care plan is not conservative and | :38:27. | :38:32. | |
her winter fuel allowance is not a humanist. Apart from that, I'm sure | :38:33. | :38:36. | |
everything is going fine on the Conservative and Unionist campaign. | :38:37. | :38:38. | |
Thank you. Any questions. Does it matter if you | :38:39. | :38:48. | |
win your seat or your party wins anything at all? I think you may be | :38:49. | :38:54. | |
referring to the point Paul Nuttall made on the television yesterday, | :38:55. | :38:57. | |
which was simply that Ukip has shown it is able to influence the course | :38:58. | :39:02. | |
of politics in Britain without MPs. And indeed one could say that under | :39:03. | :39:08. | |
the current first past the post system, it is proved to date easier | :39:09. | :39:13. | |
for Ukip to get the United Kingdom out of the European Union than it | :39:14. | :39:17. | |
has together MPs elected to the House of Commons. But we hope to | :39:18. | :39:21. | |
change that in this election. We are not expecting an across the board | :39:22. | :39:26. | |
level of voting to match that of 2015, but we do believe we are very | :39:27. | :39:31. | |
much more successfully targeting the areas where we are very strong | :39:32. | :39:36. | |
without actually specifying the ranking of are target seats. | :39:37. | :39:42. | |
Do you think comments like that are helpful in terms of getting the vote | :39:43. | :39:46. | |
out? That it doesn't matter necessarily if you have no MPs? I | :39:47. | :39:51. | |
wouldn't say it doesn't matter. It is this the better for Ukip to be | :39:52. | :39:54. | |
represented in the House of Commons as well as to command the support of | :39:55. | :39:58. | |
hundreds of thousands of millions of people as well. We're just making | :39:59. | :40:01. | |
the point that one of the key ways that we have worked in recent years | :40:02. | :40:05. | |
has been frankly to scare the Conservative Party in particular | :40:06. | :40:09. | |
when they step out of line too badly. And that is why I am inviting | :40:10. | :40:16. | |
older people who get knocked up this week by Conservative campaigners, if | :40:17. | :40:20. | |
enough of you say, we are thinking of voting Ukip over this policy, I | :40:21. | :40:24. | |
don't see it lasting beyond next weekend. | :40:25. | :40:31. | |
Harry, you seem amused. Do you have any reaction to the news | :40:32. | :40:38. | |
that the Commonwealth are sending election monitors from Australia and | :40:39. | :40:44. | |
Mauritius to oversee the election? Is that something you welcome? I | :40:45. | :40:52. | |
think our electoral system has a lot of problems around postal voting on | :40:53. | :40:57. | |
demand in some areas. In some inner-city areas I think there have | :40:58. | :41:02. | |
been problems in the past with intimidation of voters. And I think | :41:03. | :41:05. | |
the Electoral Commission have recognised that certain features of | :41:06. | :41:08. | |
the way elections are run, particularly in inner-city areas, | :41:09. | :41:12. | |
are pretty disgraceful. I think there is no room for complacency at | :41:13. | :41:17. | |
all. And if we have visitors from other countries to have a look and | :41:18. | :41:22. | |
monitor, I think that is quite welcome. It doesn't necessarily mean | :41:23. | :41:27. | |
that their own democratic systems are above criticism. I think it is | :41:28. | :41:32. | |
perfectly welcome. Let's have as many eyes on how things are done as | :41:33. | :41:46. | |
possible. Yeah. Go on. If former leader of the Lib Dems was | :41:47. | :41:51. | |
on the radio this morning, waffling on for about half an hour and taking | :41:52. | :42:01. | |
up so much space that he was even cutting his own throat in hand... | :42:02. | :42:18. | |
It was waffle. It is typical of the BBC. They keep pushing the Lib Dems | :42:19. | :42:23. | |
all the time. As you know, I have had some | :42:24. | :42:27. | |
criticisms of the BBC over recent years. We have got a policy of | :42:28. | :42:31. | |
scrapping the licence fee. But I think during an election, they are | :42:32. | :42:36. | |
quite entitled to put on politicians of lots of different parties. And I | :42:37. | :42:39. | |
don't particularly see that increased exposure of Nick Clegg to | :42:40. | :42:46. | |
the masses is going to harm the prospects of Ukip or indeed any | :42:47. | :42:51. | |
other party at all. I think it is a great democratic festival, a general | :42:52. | :42:55. | |
election, so the more Nick Clegg, the better. | :42:56. | :42:59. | |
Anyone else? Thank you very much then. Thanks. | :43:00. | :43:27. | |
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