Patrick O'Flynn Election 2017


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Thank you, Peter, good morning, everyone. Thank you for coming

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along. This is a most unusual election. Not only does the outcome

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not appear to be in doubt but most commentators do not think the result

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is even going to be close, so it couldn't be more different to the

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contest we had in 2015. As a former political journalist I am on good

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terms with MPs from across the spectrum and I haven't met a single

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one over the last few weeks who doubts privately that Britain is

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heading for another Tory administration with an enhanced

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majority. A narrow party political times, Theresa May has time to the

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contest perfectly, before the substance of EU negotiations have

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got under way and while she is still on a political honeymoon at the

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official opposition is in total disarray. From the point of view of

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Ukip's self-interest, we could be forgiven for finding it galling that

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the ever pragmatic Tory party has lately donned so many of our

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clothes, and isn't it interesting, clothes, and isn't it interesting,

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by the way, that Theresa May is being ferried around the country in

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the very battle bus that was used for the Conservative Remain campaign

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this time last year? Rather like her, it has had a message reads

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comfort for Ukip is that when the comfort for Ukip is that when the

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Tories are turned with a bigger Daugherty it will be with an

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exquisite mandate to take Britain out of the European Union. -- a

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bigger majority. The very thing that we have campaigned for for so long

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and they have resisted for so long. The price of power for the pragmatic

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Conservatives will have been to receive an instruction from the

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electorate to return our country to the ranks of independent

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self-governing democracies. Ukip candidate great pride in that

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and if we can get candidates over the line in places where they are

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strong, it will assist us in performing to the central role over

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the coming period, that's to our pragmatic conservative colleagues

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honest on Brexit. From my point of view, this corporate trait of the

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Tory party to rank the attainment and retention of power ahead of

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advancing a principled agenda has always been a cause of regret. In

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the old question is asked, are you in politics to be someone ought to

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achieve something, we even Ukip without hesitation opt for the

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latter and I just hope the passage of time shows this Prime Minister is

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motivated either same spirit rather than that of her immediate

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predecessor who once famously remarked that he wished the Prime

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Minister simply because he thought he would be good at the job. Eight

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addiction but of course turned out to be incorrect. Speaking as the

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Ukip economics spokesman I want to set out another challenge for the

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Conservatives today. That is to shed their reputation being slavish in

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their devotion to the already wealthy and well-connected at the

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expense of aspirational working people. They will not achieve that,

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I suggest, through gimmicks such as I suggest, through gimmicks such as

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guaranteeing workers a year of unpaid leave to look after elderly

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relatives. I think people will recognise that as an unfair burden

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of uncertainty but small businesses and also as the government papering

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over the cracks of the structural damage it's done to the social care

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system through ?4 billion worth of cuts. The fact is that there is

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still a stench in the political Ayr left by the recently departed

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Cameron Osborne regime. A regime that for instance favoured the tax

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avoiding boot over the self-employed black cab drivers and cup top rate

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of tax for those earning over ?150,000 a year even as it was

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taking child benefit from families earning a third of that amount. --

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Uber. My challenge to the Chancellor Philip Hammond is to prove in this

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election campaign via the economic policies he sets out that the Tories

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are not mainly in it for the rich because despite his party's poll

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rating, that is what millions of voters still believe. He could do

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this in a number of ways. First and most important of all he could and

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should explicitly rule out unleashing a new national insurance

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raid on the self-employed. The pernicious measure he set out in his

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budget and that Ukip vehemently opposed would have picked two and a

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half million workers, 1.6 million of whom are basic rate income tax

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payers, costing them an average of ?240 a year. When he withdrew the

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measure he did so only because it contravened the terms of the 20 15th

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Tory manifesto which will of course fall into obedience after this

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election. The Chancellor said he still thought raising national

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insurance on the self-employed was the right approach. So if national

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insurance rises for the self-employed are not specifically

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ruled out in the Conservative manifesto, then we will note that a

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Tory tax bombshell is on the way, aimed not at the rich but at

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plumbers and plasterers, electricians and taxi drivers,

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hairdressers and personal trainers. All the signs are that Mr Hammond is

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planning a targeted attack on white van men and entrepreneurial women,

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people who work long hours to provide for their families and take

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pride in their locality and donation. People who drive

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themselves hard and occasionally perhaps there are fans quite fast!

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Ukip will always be on the side of such self-reliant people because we

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as a party or made up of people just like that, that is why we were the

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only party with a dedicated manifesto chap in 20 15th about

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helping small businesses. -- chapter. And that's why be wouldn't

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dream of plotting national insurance hikes to make our sums add up

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because we either that has the courage to confront unnecessary and

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wasteful public spending programmes such as the excessive foreign aid

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bill, the excessive public spending settlement for Scotland via the

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Barnett formula and the vanity project of HS2. Instead of lining up

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self-employed for punishment, Mr Hammond would do much better to put

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some real political effort into cracking down on the big

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multinational corporations which dodge tax in the UK. In the run-up

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to the 20 15th election, I argued for a tax backstop to be created

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that food for the biggest international companies, create a

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tax obligation based on their turnover in the UK. If they were

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continually unwilling to make a reasonable contribution to the

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running costs of our society. So I was pleased when the Treasury came

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forward with its diverted profits tax to do this very thing. Where

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there was evidence of aggressive tax avoidance. But diverted profits tax

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has to say the least, had a very slow start. I can only find

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reference to one company being asked to make a significant payment under

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it, this insipid approach and the Conservatives has come in the face

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of mounting evidence of continued aggressive tax avoidance by highly

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lucrative multinational enterprises. -- Diaggeo. Starbuck reported

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profits of 13 million on a UK turnover of 300 pounds and

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corporation tax contribution fell to just two points seven million pounds

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down from the year before. I ask how can a vast as Ms that sells coffee

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in paper cups all over the country for ?2.50 a pop end up paying

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corporation tax contribution amounting to much less than 1% of

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its turnover. With -- with the taxman be happy to accept pro rata

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contributions from an independence copy shop, good self-employed

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taxpayer submitting returns four times a year get away with that, I

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think we know the answer to those questions and as we also know,

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Cameron and Osborne's friends at the top of Uber channel many of their

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businesses profits through a complex financial network in the Netherlands

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thereby depriving the British public realm of significant sums. Its

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behaviour like this from the big boys that calls out the UK

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taxpayers, not the amount of national insurance squeezed out of

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the self employed in the geek economy. Yet time and again you see

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the Conservative Party giving favourable treatment to the rich and

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powerful and looking like it's dumping on the up and coming. It's

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not unattractive trait and neither is upon which Theresa May has yet

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found a way of taming. I also challenge the Conservatives who are

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stealing plenty of our policies to steal another one in the interests

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of working people and that's our proposed moratorium on immigration

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for unskilled and low skilled employment. In her 2015 Tory

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Conference speech delivered when she was Home Secretary, the Prime

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Minister herself pointed out the perils of wage compression in

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working-class occupations due to excessive immigration. Is she

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willing to face down the vested interests of corporate written in

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the interests of ordinary working families? The jury is out on that

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one but there seems little reason to be optimistic. And isn't it time as

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Ukip proposes to phase out the green levies placed on every family's

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domestic energy bill and paid in subsidies to already wealthy

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landowners who put up when farms on their land? In the wake of the

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financial crisis ordinary British taxpayers make huge sacrifices to

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protect the stability of the financial system. People earning an

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average of ?26,000 a year coughed up to bail out the banks, they should

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have changed the economic culture in Britain but to date, it has not,

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indeed George Osborne placed a very high priority on looking after the

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financial services sector and now in the form of his lucrative part time

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employment with Blackrock, the financial services sector is looking

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after him. It's small wonder then people working in industries such as

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fishing gear it they will be sold short by the Conservatives and in

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the fishing industry context bartered away in Brussels for a

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minor concession to the City of London. Whose mighty lobbying power

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can always blow them out of the water. The economic agenda of Ukip

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is to speak up not just for the left behind, but for the left out, those

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who work hard to quote Michael Howard's old phrase, played by the

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rules but have no special connections or market power. There's

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the Prime Minister and Chancellor go out of their way to prove

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differently, then despite an imminent election victory, their

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party will continue to be regarded as the one that auctioned off

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prestige internships for university undergraduates at one of its black

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and white fundraising balls, thereby going and extra mile to ensure the

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glittering prizes for the rising generation in our country are

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restricted once again to a privileged minority. Ukip will

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continue to be the party that speaks for those outside Tory magic circle,

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if we can get representatives into the House of Commons at the

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selection, that task will be so much easier. But even if we can't, that

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task will be done and if we can succeed in pressurising the Tories

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to change their economic outlook as we have done in changing their

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European policy, then that will be another feather in our cap. In the

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meantime, my head is two to two and a half million self-employed people

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is to think very carefully indeed be for voting Conservative. At this

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election because if you do so, you might as well be handing the

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Chancellor at the very dagger he is planning to plunge into your backs.

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Thank you. And has anyone got any questions? Sky News. Given the

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opinion poll ratings at the weekend, your leader has spoken about staying

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on the field. This election was never one to be about our vulture,

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we acknowledge the political context has changed a lot since 2015 and we

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never learnt in 2015 having a high vote share spread rather evenly

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across the country can result in grievous disappointment. So the key

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test for us is can we concentrate our vote and campaign well enough in

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the areas we are very strong to get some people across the line and

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also, to put down markers for the future about issues such as Brexit

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being the overarching issue, things we can hold the Prime Minister to

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account for over the next couple of years. I think the signs are quite

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good in a good cluster of seats for we are strong and within about half

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of those target seats, the canvassing returns are very

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promising indeed. Thank you. Policy question, the National wage, will it

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be raised or lowered, you mentioned the looked Hammond, aren't you risk

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of turning into a pressure group? Ukip, I don't think anyone has ever

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measured the success of Ukip according to a jar of how many

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people we get into the House of Commons, we are perhaps the

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political party that has also been the most successful pressure group

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of the entire 21st-century in terms of the EU agenda, the debate over

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mass immigration. But you know, I am setting something out and it isn't

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an unusual election, it appears a foremost conclusion that Philip

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Hammond will be walking back on to number 11 Downing St on less those

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rumours of disagreements between him and the Prime Minister turned out to

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be even more severe than we think. The Conservatives are over recent

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days, claiming to be called the party of working people and I think

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that's an assertion and claim that deserves to be very rigorous leak

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tested and I've set up to date lots of different ways in which that

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clearly is simply not true. A challenge for them to do much more

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radical things, too, away from their old bias towards the well-connected,

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privileged, the already wealthy. The minimum wage... On the minimum wage,

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I'm absolutely behind the minimum wage and actually minimum wage with

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an aspiration to be lifted towards the living wage but the level at

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which a minimum wage becomes a living wage, I think depends on

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other factors most notably the availability and cost of housing and

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I think under current immigration and population growth trends, I

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don't think anyone could be really confident in five years time the

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so-called living wage really will be that. BBC News you addressed the

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issue of Brexit, I hear you are railing against the axis of

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business, how does your message... I don't really associate the words

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lost and Brexit in the same sentence, I would rather see it as

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we'd have won the issue of Brexit and actually, the price but the

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Conservatives, their ratings in the opinion polls has been to accept our

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agenda, apparently accept it because they've timed the selection before

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the substance of negotiations has begun, before people can really test

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if they are now true believers. I've set out a few examples of the Tory

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party tending towards pragmatism over principle. So I think the

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Brexit agenda, we are still the true believers in Brexit, we have driven

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the agenda, we've now got to be there to keep the Conservatives

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honest on it because they need to know, don't they, if they come away

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from that, if they compromise Brexit away, there will be a political

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price to pay and certainly, I don't see the voters looking to the Labour

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Party, the Liberal party, the Green Party to make the Conservatives pay

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the price if they come away from Brexit so I don't agree that the

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word lost should be used in the same sentence as the word Brexit and

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Ukip. I think it's our greatest triumph. You talked about big

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business and companies, how are you distinguishing yourself? Because

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unlike the Labour Party we don't want to allow continued Unlimited

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immigration for working-class occupations which not only cause

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wage compression and stagnation of incomes, it also puts massive

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pressure on public services, on housing, and there is an employment

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effect as well, whereby some of our unemployed people don't get jobs

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because of excessive immigration and I think Theresa May also recognised

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that in the Tory Conference speech of Autumn 2015, so we couldn't be

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more different, I don't really think a Labour Party that is still

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proposing no limits on immigration into working-class jobs and

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neighborhoods can possibly claim to be the party of working people and

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The Telegraph. You have said the be believed.

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The Telegraph. You have said the Conservatives have largely accepted

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your agenda. Will you become part of the Conservative Party? I don't

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think that will happen at all. I'm almost certain it won't. There have

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been instances of people moving from the Conservatives to Ukip and from

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Ukip to the Conservatives in the ebb and flow of politics. But I am

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absolutely certain that Ukip distinctive party is going to

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continue. We will continue picking up items in the political agenda,

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whether that is now to do with the excessive foreign aid bill at the

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cost of underfunding for our National Health Service, whether it

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is as being bowled on the integration agenda, -- whether it is

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us being bold on the integration agenda. Yes, we are all for a

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multinational immunity, but everyone must subscribe to our values of

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freedom of speech and the law. I absolutely don't think there is

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going to be any soft merger, if you like, between Ukip and the

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Conservatives. We believe different things and we have a different

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approach to politics. What about the need to rebrand the party? More than

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any other party, Ukip is tied to a single identity. I think it is a big

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task and it was a task that Paul was task and it was a task that Paul was

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preparing over the months ahead with a significant staging post being the

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party conference in 2017, in the autumn. Before all party leaders

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were rudely interrupted by the Prime Minister foreshortening the

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Parliament. That will be a task in the years ahead. I still think that

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Ukip can do many things but it has got to do only one thing to be true

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to its roots and that is to be the guard dog of Brexit, or the

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insurance policy for Brexit voted as Nigel Farage has put it, and we do

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need to drive the government during the remaining 22 months of our

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formal membership of the European Union. Every. -- whether we are tied

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to freedom of movement, whether we have jurisdiction, what happens to

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the fishing industry and our maritime zone. All these issues,

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that is the first duty of Ukip. We have had many thousands of members

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who fought this battle when it was incredibly unfashionable and some of

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them have not lived to see the day them have not lived to see the day

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of the referendum victory, and we owe it to them all to pursue that

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agenda right until the end of March 20 19th, so that Britain resumes

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membership of the ranks of self-governing democracies. -- March

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2019. That will be Ukip's dream and 2019. That will be Ukip's dream and

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our top priority until it is achieved. Aren't you effectively

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helping the Conservatives by not standing candidates in seats with

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Tory margins? I think I have just laid out by the achievement of

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Brexit in the fullest possible way has got to be the very top priority

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of Ukip. When Paul Nuttall set out our approach to this election, we

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did make clear that we would be guided by the views of our branches.

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Many of our branches have had conversations with sitting

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Conservative members. Labour members as well in the case of Kate and

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Kelvin, for example. But sitting Conservative members and

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Conservative candidates in seats where a Brexit supporting

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place to Remain MP. We have put our place to Remain MP. We

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country before our party in standing aside in those seats. That puts a

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very heavy burden of responsibility on the people who will benefit from

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that to stay true to the agenda and to meet the assurances they have

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given. You might see a big swing of opinion a couple of years down the

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line of people we have stood aside for don't remain true to what the

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left describes as hard Brexit and the rest of us describe as Brexit.

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If you win no seat in the selection, will the party continue? Yes, the

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cluster of target seats, which we cluster of target seats, which we

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don't advertise by name, and in the best of those things are very

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promising. We are on the way to promising. We are on the way

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creating a political microclimate in creating a political microclimate

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some places, rather like the Green some places, rather like the Green

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Party very cleverly achieved in Brighton. And we would hope to get

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people benefiting from that over the line. Even if we don't under first

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we still have that absolutely we

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overarching agenda to see through the process of Brexit for the next

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two years and I think we have already begun to outline some new

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political ideas and a new political agenda, that again as a patriotic

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party we feel these issues need speaking up for and we can't rely on

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the established political parties to do the case of the integration

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crisis of our society. How many is a cluster? More than a handful and

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less than a barrow full! There you go. At the back? The Daily Mirror.

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INAUDIBLE. I think in that situation, the

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actual initial thing would be their presence would tell a Prime Minister

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who was arguing to you guys in the European Union this time last year

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that there is a real political price to be paid if she compromises the

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fundamentals of Brexit. Other than that it is to be there as Prime

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Minister's Questions in other House of Commons events arguing the case

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for our agenda on for instant reducing the foreign aid bill. Yet

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again we go into this general election with all the parties

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represented in the House of Commons wanting to spend more on foreign

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aid, even as we see the proliferation for instance of food

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banks in our own country, the health service and the social care system

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crying out for more resources. And indeed this issue of integration and

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British values and being patriotic about our own country. I think there

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are lots of things that are Ukip MP or MPs could do and that would be

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very advantageous to us but this show will go on whether or not we

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are in the House of Commons and we have shown before that we can

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influence the agenda from outside as well. Yes? Go on. Your candidate

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numbers this time are well down. Under 400. Doesn't that show that

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you can't get people to stand for you? If we had been absolutely

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desperate to, I am quite sure we could have fielded a candidate in

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almost every seat, as we did last time, but things have changed. The

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governing party is formally committed to Brexit. I hope and

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believe that when they do release their manifesto, it will say that.

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Our party, our branches, many of them are regarding this general

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election as a kind of second referendum, knowing that the Remain

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parties will collect any bit of evidence they can glean and stumble

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on to say there is buyers remorse out there. In many cases our

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branches have made an active decision to stand aside because they

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have had reassurance from another candidate best placed to win or hold

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the seat that they sign up to our agenda of the true Brexit. I think

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it is just a radically changed political context which accounts for

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the fewer number of candidates. Right. Thanks ever so much.

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