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Good morning everyone and welcome to our speech on our new immigration | :00:25. | :00:27. | |
But before I start and introduce our immigration spokesman, I will deal | :00:28. | :00:32. | |
quickly with the local election results. We knew that these local | :00:33. | :00:37. | |
election results were going to be difficult. We knew that they were | :00:38. | :00:42. | |
going to be the most difficult local elections were going to fight. We | :00:43. | :00:47. | |
thought about we would be fighting them solely on a local basis. None | :00:48. | :00:52. | |
of us foresaw the fact that they would be made doubly difficult by a | :00:53. | :00:59. | |
general election. At the moment, the Prime Minister is being believed on | :01:00. | :01:05. | |
the issue of Brexit. She is able to talk the talk but walking the walk | :01:06. | :01:12. | |
will begin in September once the negotiations begin in earnest. And | :01:13. | :01:20. | |
Ukip must be there, not only as the guard dogs of the Brexit that we | :01:21. | :01:26. | |
fought so hard for but also as the country's insurance policy. We must | :01:27. | :01:28. | |
be there to ensure that the government does not backslide on | :01:29. | :01:33. | |
these negotiations. And to achieve these negotiations. And to achieve | :01:34. | :01:38. | |
this, Ukip must go into the selection with a clear and | :01:39. | :01:41. | |
forward-thinking range of policies that put Clearwater between | :01:42. | :01:45. | |
ourselves and the establishment parties. This will be most apparent | :01:46. | :01:53. | |
on the issue of immigration. We will be the only party that goes into the | :01:54. | :02:06. | |
selection with an honest and clear commitment to cut immigration. | :02:07. | :02:09. | |
Labour do not want to talk about it, the Conservatives have broken their | :02:10. | :02:13. | |
promises on this issue time and time again. Remember, the Conservatives | :02:14. | :02:22. | |
promised to get net immigration down to the tens of thousands. Last year | :02:23. | :02:31. | |
Theresa May's last as Home Secretary, a city the size of | :02:32. | :02:38. | |
Newcastle upon Tyne came to this country, net. It has been the | :02:39. | :02:43. | |
equivalent of a city the size of Birmingham over the past three | :02:44. | :02:51. | |
years. This is clearly unsustainable and it is clearly unfair, | :02:52. | :02:54. | |
particularly to inner-city communities. It has put strains on | :02:55. | :03:03. | |
the NHS, on housing, schools, on the transport network, and jobs. | :03:04. | :03:10. | |
Therefore we propose to do something about it. Therefore I can announce | :03:11. | :03:23. | |
today that Ukip will go into the selection -- this election with a | :03:24. | :03:27. | |
policy of balanced migration, meaning zero net immigration over | :03:28. | :03:34. | |
the next five years. For more information on this policy, I | :03:35. | :03:40. | |
handover to Ukip's immigration spokesman, John Bickley. Good | :03:41. | :03:52. | |
morning. I think you might have seen some of these faces here at one or | :03:53. | :03:56. | |
two might buy elections I have stood at over the past few years, good to | :03:57. | :04:01. | |
see you again. Thank you, Paul. If what will be a Remained dominated | :04:02. | :04:10. | |
Tory government after June the 8th passes Brexit, then outside of the | :04:11. | :04:15. | |
EU Britain will finally be able to reassess its immigration policies, | :04:16. | :04:18. | |
to achieve its own priorities as a country. This is one of the most | :04:19. | :04:21. | |
exciting political opportunities this country has had for many years. | :04:22. | :04:28. | |
If we get it right, there is the potential for calming public | :04:29. | :04:34. | |
concerns about immigration, improving race relations but still | :04:35. | :04:41. | |
allowing the brightest from around the world to contribute to our | :04:42. | :04:45. | |
society and economy. Public concerns about immigration is focused on | :04:46. | :04:49. | |
three main factors. The pressure placed on public services and | :04:50. | :04:54. | |
housing, the loss of community cohesion, and the impact on the | :04:55. | :04:59. | |
domestic labour market where wage levels for all working-class jobs | :05:00. | :05:05. | |
have stagnated. The unsustainable scale of immigration we have seen | :05:06. | :05:08. | |
since the advent of the Blair government in 97, we have sent out | :05:09. | :05:14. | |
search parties for migrants, and that is the main cause of the three | :05:15. | :05:19. | |
no should I have mentioned. The Labour Party deliberately engineered | :05:20. | :05:24. | |
mass uncontrolled immigration for electoral advantage. They also | :05:25. | :05:28. | |
wanted to change our society without our permission. They wanted to turn | :05:29. | :05:32. | |
Britain into a multicultural society. I do not remember them | :05:33. | :05:36. | |
asking us if that is what we wanted. I thought that was how democracies | :05:37. | :05:41. | |
worked. They assumed that their core vote had nowhere else to go. And so | :05:42. | :05:47. | |
they ignored them and use the benefits system to effectively bribe | :05:48. | :05:53. | |
them to keep voting Labour. Think about it. If you exclude small | :05:54. | :05:57. | |
islands and city states, England, the part of the UK that the vast | :05:58. | :06:04. | |
majority of migrants settle in, is now the sixth most overcrowded | :06:05. | :06:09. | |
country in the world. The levels of migration seen under Tony Blair and | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
Brown continued unabated under Cameron and Theresa May. In | :06:15. | :06:18. | |
contravention of a specific Conservative Thomas Paul has just | :06:19. | :06:23. | |
mentioned to bring migration down to the tens of thousands. I did not get | :06:24. | :06:28. | |
an a level in maths but I understand what is tens of thousands mean. The | :06:29. | :06:33. | |
Conservatives cannot even control non-EU migration. That is what we | :06:34. | :06:36. | |
are supposed to have total control of. Are they incompetent? Or are | :06:37. | :06:42. | |
they deliberately misleading voters when they promised to bring | :06:43. | :06:46. | |
immigration down? Most likely both, I think. It follows that for public | :06:47. | :06:54. | |
faith in our immigration system to be restored, we need to deliver | :06:55. | :06:57. | |
lower levels of immigration from now on. And this is the key point that | :06:58. | :07:02. | |
no amount of distraction from the other parties can get away from. | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
Ukip is the only party with the political will and the plan to | :07:08. | :07:14. | |
deliver this. Ukip will appoint a commission to oversee the reduction | :07:15. | :07:18. | |
of immigration levels, working to a guideline from around 600,000 in a | :07:19. | :07:25. | |
typical year to 300,000, measured over a rolling five-year period. | :07:26. | :07:29. | |
This will help it to achieve the main target we will demand of it. To | :07:30. | :07:34. | |
refuse net migration, measured over a five year periods, 2-0, | :07:35. | :07:42. | |
maintaining that over the long term. Achieving the target will leave | :07:43. | :07:46. | |
Britain in a good position, known as balanced migration. The case for | :07:47. | :07:49. | |
such a policy has been argued by Frank Field for many years. The | :07:50. | :07:55. | |
Labour MP for Birkenhead leads the House of Commons balanced migration | :07:56. | :08:00. | |
group. As Theresa May herself admitted in this speech to the | :08:01. | :08:04. | |
Conservative Party conference, the case for high immigration on | :08:05. | :08:09. | |
economic grounds has been massively overstated because advocates are | :08:10. | :08:11. | |
based their arguments on its impact on the GDP figure, rather than the | :08:12. | :08:20. | |
more relevant GDP Capital One, which is the Guild migrants are unlikely | :08:21. | :08:23. | |
to increase. If you remember, Theresa May said that at best the | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
net economic and physical effects of high immigration is close to zero. | :08:29. | :08:34. | |
So there is no case in the national interest for immigration on the | :08:35. | :08:38. | |
scale we have experienced over the last decade. And yet since making a | :08:39. | :08:44. | |
speech, Theresa May has continued to use construct -- continued to | :08:45. | :08:51. | |
encourage... They support the Bishop EU and they appear to advocate for | :08:52. | :09:06. | |
continued membership of the EU. It has been pointed out that a net | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
immigration target for a particular year is hard to achieve because no | :09:12. | :09:15. | |
one can predict in advance what the skill of immigration might be. Ukip | :09:16. | :09:20. | |
will not ask the new commission with achieving annual targets, but | :09:21. | :09:23. | |
bringing migration into balance over five years and keeping it close to | :09:24. | :09:29. | |
zero, measured as a rolling average, does not suffer from this conceptual | :09:30. | :09:32. | |
flaw. What it will require is political will. And the | :09:33. | :09:39. | |
determination to resist vested interests among the corporate | :09:40. | :09:42. | |
sector, who get the upside of an endless supply of cheap labour from | :09:43. | :09:48. | |
overseas are largely avoided the downsides felt in working-class | :09:49. | :09:54. | |
communities. There is nothing about the track record from the other | :09:55. | :09:59. | |
parties that suggest that they have the necessary political will on this | :10:00. | :10:05. | |
issue. It is only the Ukip campaign that has enabled them to talk about | :10:06. | :10:09. | |
it at all. The British people can be sure that Ukip are profoundly fitted | :10:10. | :10:17. | |
to radical cuts in immigration. -- radically committed. We will acquit | :10:18. | :10:22. | |
the migration control commission with an expensive to get powers and | :10:23. | :10:28. | |
controls as it sets about its path of steering Britain towards balanced | :10:29. | :10:31. | |
migration. We will introduce an Australian style points system to | :10:32. | :10:35. | |
rank migration applicants and we will also introduce a work visa | :10:36. | :10:39. | |
system that is applicable equally to applicants from anywhere in the | :10:40. | :10:44. | |
world, except the Republic of Ireland, where in respect of the | :10:45. | :10:49. | |
Common travel area, we will continue that passed Brexit. The interaction | :10:50. | :10:54. | |
of these two policies will ensure that the limited numbers of | :10:55. | :10:56. | |
successful immigrants admitted to Britain will be amongst the | :10:57. | :11:00. | |
brightest and the best. The people with the skills that our economy | :11:01. | :11:05. | |
must needs. We will introduce a moratorium on unskilled and low | :11:06. | :11:08. | |
skilled immigration to last for at least five years following our | :11:09. | :11:16. | |
departure. And resumption of full sovereign control of our borders. | :11:17. | :11:20. | |
This will prevent the taxpayer from picking up substantial bills for. | :11:21. | :11:36. | |
Let's see working-class people starts to earn more money. Because | :11:37. | :11:40. | |
their wages have stagnated for many years. We will, however, operate a | :11:41. | :11:48. | |
seasonal workers scheme for agricultural sectors. Based on a | :11:49. | :11:53. | |
six-month bizarre. The number of visas introduced will progressively | :11:54. | :11:55. | |
be reduced over time by the migration council. As other measures | :11:56. | :12:02. | |
are taken across the welfare system to increase the availability of | :12:03. | :12:07. | |
home-grown labour. Only Ukip's policies have sustainability at the | :12:08. | :12:12. | |
heart, with ethics and fairness. It is only by pursuing these policies | :12:13. | :12:17. | |
and introducing a bespoke UK Visa system that we can be confident of | :12:18. | :12:21. | |
immigration will benefit Britain and more importantly its citizens. I | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
think it is fair to say that if you are a betting person that there will | :12:27. | :12:30. | |
be a Tory government on the June the 8th with a large majority. That | :12:31. | :12:36. | |
being the case, they will have no excuses to not deliver on their | :12:37. | :12:43. | |
immigration policies. And for that matter, Brexit, which as far as Ukip | :12:44. | :12:49. | |
is concerned, we leave the EU and its institutions, and their control | :12:50. | :12:54. | |
on the UK, without paying an exit fee. As you all know, we have | :12:55. | :12:59. | |
contributed almost ?200 billion net to the EU since we have joined, one | :13:00. | :13:04. | |
of their top three paymasters. I think we have done our bit for | :13:05. | :13:06. | |
contributing to the EU. The Tories have a worse job of | :13:07. | :13:39. | |
immigration than the Labour Party, that takes some beating. Non-EU | :13:40. | :13:45. | |
immigration which we're supposed to have total control of is out of | :13:46. | :13:50. | |
control. By the Tories having 100% control of it. You could have forced | :13:51. | :13:56. | |
the Tories to state they are going to deliver Ukip policies. Isn't it | :13:57. | :14:01. | |
ironic? Brexit, immigration and grammar schools. We believe they | :14:02. | :14:06. | |
will not do so. As was exemplified by Amber arrived. The Home Secretary | :14:07. | :14:12. | |
totally failed to convince anyone that the Tories are serious about | :14:13. | :14:17. | |
controlling immigration. They know that last year getting referendum | :14:18. | :14:21. | |
result was driven by our country at the desire to take back control of | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
immigration but there is no will in the Tory party to deliver. Either | :14:26. | :14:30. | |
they maintain Theresa May's vacuous policy of ten thousands a year. A | :14:31. | :14:35. | |
promise they failed to deliver in seven years. In the seven years | :14:36. | :14:40. | |
since Theresa May has been Home Secretary or Prime Minister, 2 | :14:41. | :14:43. | |
million net extra people have come to this country, almost two times | :14:44. | :14:47. | |
the size of Birmingham, thank you Theresa May. That's 4 million people | :14:48. | :14:53. | |
in gross terms, four The Times of Birmingham. The Tories are so thin | :14:54. | :15:04. | |
hooks with their multinational corporate chance they would rather | :15:05. | :15:07. | |
see wages for people in this country to go down and not act on the | :15:08. | :15:14. | |
interests of the big corporations. Ukip will continue to hold the | :15:15. | :15:18. | |
Tories to account and if necessary, force them to deliver what the | :15:19. | :15:22. | |
British people want. Ukip hasn't and won't be going away. Thank you. | :15:23. | :15:24. | |
APPLAUSE We will do question and answer | :15:25. | :15:34. | |
together. Doesn't Theresa May half of the | :15:35. | :16:02. | |
ultimate immigration pledge, Brexit. What need is there now for Ukip? | :16:03. | :16:11. | |
Well, Brexit means you can take back control but whether you actually | :16:12. | :16:15. | |
have the willpower to take back control is another thing. Let's not | :16:16. | :16:18. | |
forget the Tories have had the power to do something about non-EU | :16:19. | :16:25. | |
migration for many years but still running at an unacceptable level. | :16:26. | :16:30. | |
What's clear is that on June 23, people didn't just walk to take back | :16:31. | :16:34. | |
control of our borders, they voted to cut immigration and I think | :16:35. | :16:38. | |
Theresa May's past record as Home Secretary and the Conservatives's | :16:39. | :16:40. | |
past record on this issue simply proves that the won't... You've had | :16:41. | :16:46. | |
David Davis in the past fortnight talking about immigration levels | :16:47. | :16:50. | |
running at this level for the foreseeable future, into the next | :16:51. | :16:53. | |
decade, that's completely unacceptable to the British people. | :16:54. | :16:57. | |
The only party that will have a clear and honest policy on | :16:58. | :17:00. | |
immigration going into this election is Ukip. Nigel Farage says... I | :17:01. | :17:19. | |
can't hear you. Nigel Farage said yesterday that Ukip could disband | :17:20. | :17:22. | |
within two news if Theresa May delivers the type of Brexit the | :17:23. | :17:28. | |
British people want. Do you agree and are you the man to answer this? | :17:29. | :17:34. | |
You are so facetious. It's not really what he said. He spoke about | :17:35. | :17:43. | |
if Theresa May delivers a full Ukip style of Brexit. It isn't going to | :17:44. | :17:48. | |
happen, there is no chance that will happen whatsoever. I'm confident | :17:49. | :17:53. | |
that she will begin to backslide once these negotiations start, I'm | :17:54. | :17:56. | |
convinced that fisheries will be bartered away first, I think there | :17:57. | :18:01. | |
will certainly be movement on immigration and a lack of control of | :18:02. | :18:05. | |
our borders. I think we'll still end up paying some form of divorce Bill. | :18:06. | :18:12. | |
I don't think... Looking at half past record I'm pretty confident | :18:13. | :18:15. | |
that Ukip will not only still survive into the future, but the | :18:16. | :18:21. | |
full Brexit Ukip, once these negotiations start, it could be | :18:22. | :18:26. | |
bigger and I predict it will be bigger than the prefix if you was. | :18:27. | :18:31. | |
Am I the right man to Yazidis questions? At the moment I'm the | :18:32. | :18:41. | |
leader of Ukip. Can you be specific about who you are not going to let | :18:42. | :18:46. | |
in, is the reason you just going so far in the other direction is | :18:47. | :18:50. | |
because you want to try to trump the Tories because they swallowed your | :18:51. | :18:56. | |
votes at the local elections? The reality is the Tory party looks like | :18:57. | :19:04. | |
a Ukip light party, government. He is going to promote Brexit, David | :19:05. | :19:08. | |
Cameron's government didn't want to leave the EU, she tells her she's | :19:09. | :19:11. | |
gone to control immigration, I don't think David Cameron's government | :19:12. | :19:14. | |
would do that, we were told by the Tories for decades they were not to | :19:15. | :19:18. | |
be judges grammar schools, Theresa May now says she's gone to do that. | :19:19. | :19:22. | |
From a pure policy standpoint and with nobody on the green benches, I | :19:23. | :19:26. | |
would say currently we're in the more successful party in the world. | :19:27. | :19:34. | |
For actually forcing the government to do our bidding and do the bidding | :19:35. | :19:38. | |
of the millions of people who voted for Ukip. In fact, many Ukip members | :19:39. | :19:44. | |
and supporters are not stupid, they realise the only person who | :19:45. | :19:48. | |
technically can deliver Brexit is Theresa May, I think they are voting | :19:49. | :19:52. | |
and will vote for Theresa May, not the Tories. When you speak to Labour | :19:53. | :19:56. | |
voters who are our members or who voted Ukip, it's interesting, they | :19:57. | :20:03. | |
always say, John, sorry, we want Brexit, it's what Ukip fought for, | :20:04. | :20:07. | |
we have fought for Theresa May. Not the Labour Party. It's interesting | :20:08. | :20:11. | |
with Labour voters, they cannot bring themselves to say they are | :20:12. | :20:14. | |
going to vote for the Tory party, I'm voting for Theresa May. If | :20:15. | :20:19. | |
Theresa May doesn't deliver Brexit, which means leaving the EU period | :20:20. | :20:24. | |
and she doesn't control immigration, the Tory party, who most people are | :20:25. | :20:30. | |
going to vote for Theresa May and still hate them, will be in big | :20:31. | :20:34. | |
trouble. We will be there to pick up the pieces. Does it feel like you | :20:35. | :20:42. | |
are leading the most successful party in the world? | :20:43. | :20:56. | |
As for the more successful party, we have been, in terms of driving the | :20:57. | :21:04. | |
government into the position it's in now on Brexit, the most influential | :21:05. | :21:11. | |
party of the 20th century in this country. Obviously we have forced a | :21:12. | :21:16. | |
reluctant Prime Minister to give a referendum he didn't want to give, | :21:17. | :21:20. | |
we went out and campaign for Brexit hard to ensure that Brexit was | :21:21. | :21:24. | |
achieved and obviously the people went out in bigger numbers than ever | :21:25. | :21:29. | |
before on June 23 in a referendum which will galvanise the country and | :21:30. | :21:32. | |
of people interested in politics and they voted to leave the school trick | :21:33. | :21:44. | |
-- Schelotto -- leave the block. As for students, as for the detail of | :21:45. | :21:49. | |
this, we want an Australian points-based system, which will not | :21:50. | :21:54. | |
discriminate against anybody. If you have got the skills that this | :21:55. | :21:58. | |
country requires, we want you to come here and work and take part | :21:59. | :22:02. | |
fully in our society. Of course, students will also be, we don't want | :22:03. | :22:07. | |
students taken out of the immigration figures, we want them to | :22:08. | :22:15. | |
still be counted and I think there are certain forces in the | :22:16. | :22:16. | |
Conservative Party who wanted them to be taken out so they could | :22:17. | :22:20. | |
massage the figures to show they were coming down when in fact they | :22:21. | :22:35. | |
were not. Write using the 200,000 people per year are still arriving | :22:36. | :22:40. | |
if your policy comes right? With net zero migration, in the initial | :22:41. | :22:44. | |
five-year rolling term from an average of 300,000 a year. We are | :22:45. | :22:49. | |
loving a lot of flexibility net. A lot of stability for the migration | :22:50. | :22:54. | |
control commission, talking with industry and all sectors of society | :22:55. | :22:57. | |
to get the balance right and that means in any given year it will go | :22:58. | :23:01. | |
up and down. Very much about setting the parameters of what we want to | :23:02. | :23:06. | |
achieve but then recognising the need for flexibility in labour | :23:07. | :23:07. | |
markets. Macro the key thing here, for as long as | :23:08. | :23:18. | |
any of us can remember, no government, labour or Tory Lib Dem | :23:19. | :23:23. | |
has managed to achieve net zero migration. In the last 15 years it's | :23:24. | :23:26. | |
got out of control, starting with Tony Blair, Gordon Brown government | :23:27. | :23:32. | |
who deliberately engineered massive uncontrolled immigration. It's a | :23:33. | :23:39. | |
zero figure, balanced migration and that gives us an opportunity to | :23:40. | :23:43. | |
actually started what people in this country want with are just pulling | :23:44. | :23:46. | |
up the drawbridge, we don't want to do that. | :23:47. | :23:59. | |
I'll answer that point first and come back onto it. I want a great | :24:00. | :24:05. | |
Brexit, I don't want a bad Brexit, I'm prepared to put country above | :24:06. | :24:10. | |
party, I want the best Brexit possible. I wish Theresa May all the | :24:11. | :24:16. | |
best going into these negotiations. One of the duties of Ukip in the | :24:17. | :24:20. | |
years to come, we must be the backbone of the government when they | :24:21. | :24:23. | |
enter into these negotiations and that's why it's so imperative that | :24:24. | :24:26. | |
Ukip stays on the pitch and Ukip ravines viable electoral force | :24:27. | :24:31. | |
because as Nigel Farage said yesterday, Ukip is the country and | :24:32. | :24:36. | |
an insurance policy. In case the government do begin to backslide. As | :24:37. | :24:43. | |
for your first question, which was about people coming in, people going | :24:44. | :24:49. | |
out, the point about zero net migration over a five-year period, | :24:50. | :24:52. | |
firstly this has been called for number of years in the House of | :24:53. | :24:56. | |
Commons by Frank Field and Nick Soames and others and this is all | :24:57. | :25:00. | |
about managing the population because at the moment, we are | :25:01. | :25:05. | |
allowing net our population to grow at the rate of a city the size of | :25:06. | :25:12. | |
Newcastle every single year. It's bad for the NHS, it puts pressure on | :25:13. | :25:16. | |
the NHS, it puts pressure on housing, it puts pressure on the | :25:17. | :25:21. | |
transport network, on schools, which are bursting to capacity, it's all | :25:22. | :25:22. | |
about managing population. The zero migration is being said in | :25:23. | :25:45. | |
a flexible way. Have you going to support the NHS and the other | :25:46. | :25:53. | |
things? Your fault collapsed -- your vote collapsed. It is quite | :25:54. | :26:01. | |
reasonable for a country, a so-called sovereign nation to decide | :26:02. | :26:05. | |
who comes here and we think our target is reasonable. It still says | :26:06. | :26:10. | |
we want to attract the brightest and best in the world. I want anyone in | :26:11. | :26:16. | |
the world to look at Great Britain and believe that at some point in | :26:17. | :26:19. | |
their life they can come here on holiday, obviously and spend money, | :26:20. | :26:23. | |
come here to study, come here to work and maybe come here to live. | :26:24. | :26:28. | |
Completely open door in that respect but we must control it, we must set | :26:29. | :26:32. | |
the terms of reference. We still have over 800,000 kids 16-24 who are | :26:33. | :26:39. | |
not working, about 1.5 million people unemployed, we sent hundreds | :26:40. | :26:45. | |
of thousands of people into higher education and there's a question | :26:46. | :26:50. | |
whether that's the best for all of them and the country. Many of us | :26:51. | :26:55. | |
think that the reason we have so many people in higher education was | :26:56. | :26:58. | |
the Labour government wanting to massage the employment figures so | :26:59. | :27:01. | |
the more people they higher education the better the employment | :27:02. | :27:06. | |
figures. There are great opportunities to take the human | :27:07. | :27:10. | |
capital we have in this country and make it more productive. The one | :27:11. | :27:13. | |
thing immigration has actually shown, let's be honest about this, | :27:14. | :27:17. | |
there's been no shortage of jobs in this country. That's one of the | :27:18. | :27:21. | |
things it shows. There's no excuse for British people to say there | :27:22. | :27:26. | |
aren't any jobs. That's something that immigration has shown us, we're | :27:27. | :27:31. | |
an incredible economy that is creating lots of opportunities but | :27:32. | :27:34. | |
let's make sure it's our people first and foremost who are given | :27:35. | :27:38. | |
opportunities to move up the value chain and to take those jobs and | :27:39. | :27:44. | |
when it suits us, not some bureaucrats in Brussels, we'll | :27:45. | :27:48. | |
decide who needs to come here and the idea of the migration control | :27:49. | :27:51. | |
commission is that they will have the ability to move these numbers | :27:52. | :27:57. | |
around on an annual basis but knowing that over five years it must | :27:58. | :28:01. | |
average net zero migration. That seems to me think that the majority | :28:02. | :28:05. | |
of British people will say is pragmatic, sensible, grown-up and | :28:06. | :28:10. | |
actually the only party they can trust to deliver on immigration | :28:11. | :28:15. | |
policies for us because the Tories can't under Labour, the Greens and | :28:16. | :28:18. | |
the Lib Dems they want everyone in the world to come here and to hell | :28:19. | :28:25. | |
with the consequences for our public services and social cohesion. The | :28:26. | :28:29. | |
dip in the polls came within 24 hours of the Prime Minister | :28:30. | :28:32. | |
announcing there was meant to be a general election. It predated what | :28:33. | :28:40. | |
you called Ukip on terrible. We lost 4% the opinion polls. I think over | :28:41. | :28:46. | |
the next four and a half weeks, you will see Ukip gradually climb once | :28:47. | :28:54. | |
again. This manifesto will be radical, it will be forward | :28:55. | :28:57. | |
thinking, it will be ahead of its time in many ways and I want Ukip to | :28:58. | :29:03. | |
be out there and I want Ukip to be leading the debate, just as we did | :29:04. | :29:07. | |
over Brexit and over immigration, just as we did over grammar schools | :29:08. | :29:12. | |
and Ukip can look forward, I believe, to a pretty prosperous | :29:13. | :29:20. | |
future. You just predicted the government will backslide over | :29:21. | :29:30. | |
Brexit, you will not be challenging the Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson | :29:31. | :29:37. | |
and the election. What proportion of seats will you be contesting and do | :29:38. | :29:47. | |
you anticipate your endorsement of the Tories will go down well? | :29:48. | :29:54. | |
There will be Labour MPs that we will not challenge but they will be | :29:55. | :30:00. | |
real Brexiteers. We will be standing in the best majority of the country. | :30:01. | :30:08. | |
Just a quick couple of questions about immigration policy. If people | :30:09. | :30:18. | |
are at university and the UK, and we have zero net migration, overseas | :30:19. | :30:29. | |
students generates a large amount of income, is that a concern? And also, | :30:30. | :30:39. | |
with the ruling six-month bizarre, can you go home for a weekend? Let | :30:40. | :30:45. | |
me say this about students coming in, they are welcome to come here. | :30:46. | :30:52. | |
When they come here, they put pressure on housing and public | :30:53. | :30:55. | |
services. You cannot just have an unlimited number of students coming | :30:56. | :30:59. | |
here without understanding the impact that might happen on public | :31:00. | :31:04. | |
services. Think people forget -- and the thing people forget is that if | :31:05. | :31:08. | |
you want to improve your infrastructure or build new | :31:09. | :31:10. | |
infrastructure, it takes many years. In doing that, you need to make | :31:11. | :31:14. | |
predictions about the size of your population and how many houses you | :31:15. | :31:19. | |
need to build, how many hospital places, how many hospital beds, | :31:20. | :31:24. | |
school places. If you do not have ideas about what these numbers might | :31:25. | :31:27. | |
look like, you cannot properly plan and we have seen the consequences of | :31:28. | :31:30. | |
not being able to plan because immigration has been out of control, | :31:31. | :31:35. | |
where we have unsustainable pressure on public services and housing. | :31:36. | :31:39. | |
Anyone sensible will say, let's get a grip of this, let's start to | :31:40. | :31:42. | |
understand what the numbers will look like over the next five or ten | :31:43. | :31:47. | |
years. By setting parameters but leaving flexibility within the | :31:48. | :31:50. | |
parameters, you are starting to be able to make some predictions about | :31:51. | :31:54. | |
where the population is going and then that means you can properly | :31:55. | :31:57. | |
plan infrastructure. That is the sensible thing to do. Back to | :31:58. | :32:02. | |
seasonal workers, there you go, that is how it works. You can have a | :32:03. | :32:06. | |
six-month seasonal Visa if you are coming to work in the agricultural | :32:07. | :32:11. | |
is nice. I don't think we are very productive in this country during | :32:12. | :32:14. | |
the winter months when there is no or frost on the ground. They need to | :32:15. | :32:20. | |
be here when the work is available and that is during the summer | :32:21. | :32:21. | |
months. So we issue a six-month months. So we issue a six-month | :32:22. | :32:26. | |
visa. We also want to encourage our own people to get back into that | :32:27. | :32:30. | |
industry. These to be a time when it was a rite of passage for people | :32:31. | :32:33. | |
going through an internal gap year in this country on the way to | :32:34. | :32:38. | |
university or at university, to get some extra cash in, what would they | :32:39. | :32:42. | |
do? They would go fruit picking. That was the way we work an | :32:43. | :32:46. | |
interesting and productive economy. The idea that we just have to keep | :32:47. | :32:52. | |
looking abroad all the time to fill our requirements is crazy. We need | :32:53. | :32:55. | |
to make sure we have used up the human capital that exists in this | :32:56. | :32:59. | |
country and maximised its potential mop and then let's attract as many | :33:00. | :33:04. | |
people are make sense from anywhere in the world. I am not interested in | :33:05. | :33:10. | |
the colour of their skin, their religion, their sexuality, I don't | :33:11. | :33:14. | |
care. If they can bring about used to this country and it fits in with | :33:15. | :33:17. | |
what we're trying to achieve, great, welcome to Britain. Last question, I | :33:18. | :33:37. | |
will take two. Have you bought a house in Boston and Skegness? I have | :33:38. | :33:42. | |
not, but nor did I buy a house in Stoke. It will be rented. Will I be | :33:43. | :33:45. | |
staying in the constituency? staying in the constituency? | :33:46. | :33:47. | |
Probably at some point. Next question. In terms of the six-month | :33:48. | :34:00. | |
Visa for seasonal workers, you talked about wanting to reduce | :34:01. | :34:07. | |
entitlement in Britain, what happens if they do not take up this role? Is | :34:08. | :34:17. | |
a danger you become a parody party, without any MPs? Are you almost | :34:18. | :34:28. | |
becoming a parody party? I think you will find the majority of seasonal | :34:29. | :34:33. | |
workers in this country are British. But beyond that, are we a parody of | :34:34. | :34:39. | |
ourselves? Well, look, we were not actually just at the forefront but | :34:40. | :34:43. | |
the party that forced the biggest decision the British people have | :34:44. | :34:46. | |
ever made in a generation and could possibly be the decision we will -- | :34:47. | :34:51. | |
the biggest decision we have made in the first part of the century, the | :34:52. | :34:53. | |
decision for us to leave the European Union. I think we have been | :34:54. | :35:01. | |
quite successful. I spoke to Steven Woolfe a few weeks ago and he said | :35:02. | :35:09. | |
that Ukip have lost their way. They once had a golden opportunity but | :35:10. | :35:15. | |
the next election will be a breaking point for them. What do you think of | :35:16. | :35:21. | |
those comments? He would say that, wouldn't it? That's it. Thank you | :35:22. | :35:27. | |
very much. Right, well done. Cheers. | :35:28. | :35:32. |