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Good morning everyone and welcome to our speech on our new immigration

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But before I start and introduce our immigration spokesman, I will deal

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quickly with the local election results. We knew that these local

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election results were going to be difficult. We knew that they were

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going to be the most difficult local elections were going to fight. We

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thought about we would be fighting them solely on a local basis. None

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of us foresaw the fact that they would be made doubly difficult by a

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general election. At the moment, the Prime Minister is being believed on

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the issue of Brexit. She is able to talk the talk but walking the walk

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will begin in September once the negotiations begin in earnest. And

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Ukip must be there, not only as the guard dogs of the Brexit that we

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fought so hard for but also as the country's insurance policy. We must

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be there to ensure that the government does not backslide on

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these negotiations. And to achieve these negotiations. And to achieve

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this, Ukip must go into the selection with a clear and

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forward-thinking range of policies that put Clearwater between

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ourselves and the establishment parties. This will be most apparent

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on the issue of immigration. We will be the only party that goes into the

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selection with an honest and clear commitment to cut immigration.

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Labour do not want to talk about it, the Conservatives have broken their

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promises on this issue time and time again. Remember, the Conservatives

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promised to get net immigration down to the tens of thousands. Last year

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Theresa May's last as Home Secretary, a city the size of

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Newcastle upon Tyne came to this country, net. It has been the

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equivalent of a city the size of Birmingham over the past three

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years. This is clearly unsustainable and it is clearly unfair,

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particularly to inner-city communities. It has put strains on

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the NHS, on housing, schools, on the transport network, and jobs.

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Therefore we propose to do something about it. Therefore I can announce

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today that Ukip will go into the selection -- this election with a

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policy of balanced migration, meaning zero net immigration over

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the next five years. For more information on this policy, I

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handover to Ukip's immigration spokesman, John Bickley. Good

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morning. I think you might have seen some of these faces here at one or

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two might buy elections I have stood at over the past few years, good to

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see you again. Thank you, Paul. If what will be a Remained dominated

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Tory government after June the 8th passes Brexit, then outside of the

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EU Britain will finally be able to reassess its immigration policies,

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to achieve its own priorities as a country. This is one of the most

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exciting political opportunities this country has had for many years.

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If we get it right, there is the potential for calming public

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concerns about immigration, improving race relations but still

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allowing the brightest from around the world to contribute to our

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society and economy. Public concerns about immigration is focused on

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three main factors. The pressure placed on public services and

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housing, the loss of community cohesion, and the impact on the

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domestic labour market where wage levels for all working-class jobs

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have stagnated. The unsustainable scale of immigration we have seen

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since the advent of the Blair government in 97, we have sent out

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search parties for migrants, and that is the main cause of the three

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no should I have mentioned. The Labour Party deliberately engineered

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mass uncontrolled immigration for electoral advantage. They also

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wanted to change our society without our permission. They wanted to turn

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Britain into a multicultural society. I do not remember them

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asking us if that is what we wanted. I thought that was how democracies

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worked. They assumed that their core vote had nowhere else to go. And so

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they ignored them and use the benefits system to effectively bribe

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them to keep voting Labour. Think about it. If you exclude small

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islands and city states, England, the part of the UK that the vast

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majority of migrants settle in, is now the sixth most overcrowded

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country in the world. The levels of migration seen under Tony Blair and

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Brown continued unabated under Cameron and Theresa May. In

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contravention of a specific Conservative Thomas Paul has just

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mentioned to bring migration down to the tens of thousands. I did not get

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an a level in maths but I understand what is tens of thousands mean. The

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Conservatives cannot even control non-EU migration. That is what we

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are supposed to have total control of. Are they incompetent? Or are

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they deliberately misleading voters when they promised to bring

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immigration down? Most likely both, I think. It follows that for public

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faith in our immigration system to be restored, we need to deliver

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lower levels of immigration from now on. And this is the key point that

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no amount of distraction from the other parties can get away from.

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Ukip is the only party with the political will and the plan to

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deliver this. Ukip will appoint a commission to oversee the reduction

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of immigration levels, working to a guideline from around 600,000 in a

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typical year to 300,000, measured over a rolling five-year period.

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This will help it to achieve the main target we will demand of it. To

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refuse net migration, measured over a five year periods, 2-0,

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maintaining that over the long term. Achieving the target will leave

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Britain in a good position, known as balanced migration. The case for

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such a policy has been argued by Frank Field for many years. The

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Labour MP for Birkenhead leads the House of Commons balanced migration

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group. As Theresa May herself admitted in this speech to the

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Conservative Party conference, the case for high immigration on

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economic grounds has been massively overstated because advocates are

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based their arguments on its impact on the GDP figure, rather than the

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more relevant GDP Capital One, which is the Guild migrants are unlikely

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to increase. If you remember, Theresa May said that at best the

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net economic and physical effects of high immigration is close to zero.

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So there is no case in the national interest for immigration on the

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scale we have experienced over the last decade. And yet since making a

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speech, Theresa May has continued to use construct -- continued to

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encourage... They support the Bishop EU and they appear to advocate for

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continued membership of the EU. It has been pointed out that a net

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immigration target for a particular year is hard to achieve because no

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one can predict in advance what the skill of immigration might be. Ukip

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will not ask the new commission with achieving annual targets, but

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bringing migration into balance over five years and keeping it close to

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zero, measured as a rolling average, does not suffer from this conceptual

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flaw. What it will require is political will. And the

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determination to resist vested interests among the corporate

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sector, who get the upside of an endless supply of cheap labour from

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overseas are largely avoided the downsides felt in working-class

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communities. There is nothing about the track record from the other

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parties that suggest that they have the necessary political will on this

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issue. It is only the Ukip campaign that has enabled them to talk about

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it at all. The British people can be sure that Ukip are profoundly fitted

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to radical cuts in immigration. -- radically committed. We will acquit

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the migration control commission with an expensive to get powers and

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controls as it sets about its path of steering Britain towards balanced

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migration. We will introduce an Australian style points system to

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rank migration applicants and we will also introduce a work visa

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system that is applicable equally to applicants from anywhere in the

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world, except the Republic of Ireland, where in respect of the

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Common travel area, we will continue that passed Brexit. The interaction

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of these two policies will ensure that the limited numbers of

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successful immigrants admitted to Britain will be amongst the

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brightest and the best. The people with the skills that our economy

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must needs. We will introduce a moratorium on unskilled and low

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skilled immigration to last for at least five years following our

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departure. And resumption of full sovereign control of our borders.

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This will prevent the taxpayer from picking up substantial bills for.

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Let's see working-class people starts to earn more money. Because

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their wages have stagnated for many years. We will, however, operate a

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seasonal workers scheme for agricultural sectors. Based on a

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six-month bizarre. The number of visas introduced will progressively

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be reduced over time by the migration council. As other measures

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are taken across the welfare system to increase the availability of

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home-grown labour. Only Ukip's policies have sustainability at the

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heart, with ethics and fairness. It is only by pursuing these policies

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and introducing a bespoke UK Visa system that we can be confident of

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immigration will benefit Britain and more importantly its citizens. I

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think it is fair to say that if you are a betting person that there will

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be a Tory government on the June the 8th with a large majority. That

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being the case, they will have no excuses to not deliver on their

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immigration policies. And for that matter, Brexit, which as far as Ukip

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is concerned, we leave the EU and its institutions, and their control

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on the UK, without paying an exit fee. As you all know, we have

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contributed almost ?200 billion net to the EU since we have joined, one

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of their top three paymasters. I think we have done our bit for

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contributing to the EU. The Tories have a worse job of

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immigration than the Labour Party, that takes some beating. Non-EU

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immigration which we're supposed to have total control of is out of

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control. By the Tories having 100% control of it. You could have forced

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the Tories to state they are going to deliver Ukip policies. Isn't it

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ironic? Brexit, immigration and grammar schools. We believe they

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will not do so. As was exemplified by Amber arrived. The Home Secretary

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totally failed to convince anyone that the Tories are serious about

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controlling immigration. They know that last year getting referendum

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result was driven by our country at the desire to take back control of

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immigration but there is no will in the Tory party to deliver. Either

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they maintain Theresa May's vacuous policy of ten thousands a year. A

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promise they failed to deliver in seven years. In the seven years

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since Theresa May has been Home Secretary or Prime Minister, 2

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million net extra people have come to this country, almost two times

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the size of Birmingham, thank you Theresa May. That's 4 million people

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in gross terms, four The Times of Birmingham. The Tories are so thin

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hooks with their multinational corporate chance they would rather

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see wages for people in this country to go down and not act on the

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interests of the big corporations. Ukip will continue to hold the

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Tories to account and if necessary, force them to deliver what the

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British people want. Ukip hasn't and won't be going away. Thank you.

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APPLAUSE We will do question and answer

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together. Doesn't Theresa May half of the

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ultimate immigration pledge, Brexit. What need is there now for Ukip?

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Well, Brexit means you can take back control but whether you actually

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have the willpower to take back control is another thing. Let's not

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forget the Tories have had the power to do something about non-EU

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migration for many years but still running at an unacceptable level.

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What's clear is that on June 23, people didn't just walk to take back

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control of our borders, they voted to cut immigration and I think

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Theresa May's past record as Home Secretary and the Conservatives's

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past record on this issue simply proves that the won't... You've had

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David Davis in the past fortnight talking about immigration levels

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running at this level for the foreseeable future, into the next

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decade, that's completely unacceptable to the British people.

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The only party that will have a clear and honest policy on

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immigration going into this election is Ukip. Nigel Farage says... I

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can't hear you. Nigel Farage said yesterday that Ukip could disband

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within two news if Theresa May delivers the type of Brexit the

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British people want. Do you agree and are you the man to answer this?

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You are so facetious. It's not really what he said. He spoke about

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if Theresa May delivers a full Ukip style of Brexit. It isn't going to

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happen, there is no chance that will happen whatsoever. I'm confident

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that she will begin to backslide once these negotiations start, I'm

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convinced that fisheries will be bartered away first, I think there

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will certainly be movement on immigration and a lack of control of

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our borders. I think we'll still end up paying some form of divorce Bill.

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I don't think... Looking at half past record I'm pretty confident

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that Ukip will not only still survive into the future, but the

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full Brexit Ukip, once these negotiations start, it could be

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bigger and I predict it will be bigger than the prefix if you was.

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Am I the right man to Yazidis questions? At the moment I'm the

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leader of Ukip. Can you be specific about who you are not going to let

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in, is the reason you just going so far in the other direction is

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because you want to try to trump the Tories because they swallowed your

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votes at the local elections? The reality is the Tory party looks like

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a Ukip light party, government. He is going to promote Brexit, David

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Cameron's government didn't want to leave the EU, she tells her she's

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gone to control immigration, I don't think David Cameron's government

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would do that, we were told by the Tories for decades they were not to

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be judges grammar schools, Theresa May now says she's gone to do that.

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From a pure policy standpoint and with nobody on the green benches, I

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would say currently we're in the more successful party in the world.

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For actually forcing the government to do our bidding and do the bidding

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of the millions of people who voted for Ukip. In fact, many Ukip members

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and supporters are not stupid, they realise the only person who

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technically can deliver Brexit is Theresa May, I think they are voting

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and will vote for Theresa May, not the Tories. When you speak to Labour

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voters who are our members or who voted Ukip, it's interesting, they

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always say, John, sorry, we want Brexit, it's what Ukip fought for,

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we have fought for Theresa May. Not the Labour Party. It's interesting

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with Labour voters, they cannot bring themselves to say they are

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going to vote for the Tory party, I'm voting for Theresa May. If

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Theresa May doesn't deliver Brexit, which means leaving the EU period

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and she doesn't control immigration, the Tory party, who most people are

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going to vote for Theresa May and still hate them, will be in big

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trouble. We will be there to pick up the pieces. Does it feel like you

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are leading the most successful party in the world?

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As for the more successful party, we have been, in terms of driving the

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government into the position it's in now on Brexit, the most influential

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party of the 20th century in this country. Obviously we have forced a

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reluctant Prime Minister to give a referendum he didn't want to give,

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we went out and campaign for Brexit hard to ensure that Brexit was

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achieved and obviously the people went out in bigger numbers than ever

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before on June 23 in a referendum which will galvanise the country and

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of people interested in politics and they voted to leave the school trick

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-- Schelotto -- leave the block. As for students, as for the detail of

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this, we want an Australian points-based system, which will not

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discriminate against anybody. If you have got the skills that this

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country requires, we want you to come here and work and take part

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fully in our society. Of course, students will also be, we don't want

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students taken out of the immigration figures, we want them to

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still be counted and I think there are certain forces in the

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Conservative Party who wanted them to be taken out so they could

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massage the figures to show they were coming down when in fact they

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were not. Write using the 200,000 people per year are still arriving

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if your policy comes right? With net zero migration, in the initial

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five-year rolling term from an average of 300,000 a year. We are

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loving a lot of flexibility net. A lot of stability for the migration

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control commission, talking with industry and all sectors of society

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to get the balance right and that means in any given year it will go

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up and down. Very much about setting the parameters of what we want to

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achieve but then recognising the need for flexibility in labour

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markets. Macro the key thing here, for as long as

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any of us can remember, no government, labour or Tory Lib Dem

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has managed to achieve net zero migration. In the last 15 years it's

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got out of control, starting with Tony Blair, Gordon Brown government

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who deliberately engineered massive uncontrolled immigration. It's a

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zero figure, balanced migration and that gives us an opportunity to

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actually started what people in this country want with are just pulling

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up the drawbridge, we don't want to do that.

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I'll answer that point first and come back onto it. I want a great

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Brexit, I don't want a bad Brexit, I'm prepared to put country above

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party, I want the best Brexit possible. I wish Theresa May all the

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best going into these negotiations. One of the duties of Ukip in the

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years to come, we must be the backbone of the government when they

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enter into these negotiations and that's why it's so imperative that

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Ukip stays on the pitch and Ukip ravines viable electoral force

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because as Nigel Farage said yesterday, Ukip is the country and

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an insurance policy. In case the government do begin to backslide. As

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for your first question, which was about people coming in, people going

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out, the point about zero net migration over a five-year period,

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firstly this has been called for number of years in the House of

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Commons by Frank Field and Nick Soames and others and this is all

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about managing the population because at the moment, we are

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allowing net our population to grow at the rate of a city the size of

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Newcastle every single year. It's bad for the NHS, it puts pressure on

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the NHS, it puts pressure on housing, it puts pressure on the

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transport network, on schools, which are bursting to capacity, it's all

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about managing population. The zero migration is being said in

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a flexible way. Have you going to support the NHS and the other

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things? Your fault collapsed -- your vote collapsed. It is quite

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reasonable for a country, a so-called sovereign nation to decide

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who comes here and we think our target is reasonable. It still says

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we want to attract the brightest and best in the world. I want anyone in

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the world to look at Great Britain and believe that at some point in

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their life they can come here on holiday, obviously and spend money,

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come here to study, come here to work and maybe come here to live.

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Completely open door in that respect but we must control it, we must set

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the terms of reference. We still have over 800,000 kids 16-24 who are

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not working, about 1.5 million people unemployed, we sent hundreds

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of thousands of people into higher education and there's a question

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whether that's the best for all of them and the country. Many of us

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think that the reason we have so many people in higher education was

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the Labour government wanting to massage the employment figures so

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the more people they higher education the better the employment

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figures. There are great opportunities to take the human

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capital we have in this country and make it more productive. The one

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thing immigration has actually shown, let's be honest about this,

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there's been no shortage of jobs in this country. That's one of the

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things it shows. There's no excuse for British people to say there

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aren't any jobs. That's something that immigration has shown us, we're

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an incredible economy that is creating lots of opportunities but

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let's make sure it's our people first and foremost who are given

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opportunities to move up the value chain and to take those jobs and

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when it suits us, not some bureaucrats in Brussels, we'll

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decide who needs to come here and the idea of the migration control

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commission is that they will have the ability to move these numbers

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around on an annual basis but knowing that over five years it must

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average net zero migration. That seems to me think that the majority

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of British people will say is pragmatic, sensible, grown-up and

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actually the only party they can trust to deliver on immigration

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policies for us because the Tories can't under Labour, the Greens and

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the Lib Dems they want everyone in the world to come here and to hell

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with the consequences for our public services and social cohesion. The

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dip in the polls came within 24 hours of the Prime Minister

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announcing there was meant to be a general election. It predated what

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you called Ukip on terrible. We lost 4% the opinion polls. I think over

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the next four and a half weeks, you will see Ukip gradually climb once

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again. This manifesto will be radical, it will be forward

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thinking, it will be ahead of its time in many ways and I want Ukip to

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be out there and I want Ukip to be leading the debate, just as we did

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over Brexit and over immigration, just as we did over grammar schools

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and Ukip can look forward, I believe, to a pretty prosperous

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future. You just predicted the government will backslide over

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Brexit, you will not be challenging the Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson

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and the election. What proportion of seats will you be contesting and do

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you anticipate your endorsement of the Tories will go down well?

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There will be Labour MPs that we will not challenge but they will be

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real Brexiteers. We will be standing in the best majority of the country.

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Just a quick couple of questions about immigration policy. If people

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are at university and the UK, and we have zero net migration, overseas

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students generates a large amount of income, is that a concern? And also,

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with the ruling six-month bizarre, can you go home for a weekend? Let

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me say this about students coming in, they are welcome to come here.

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When they come here, they put pressure on housing and public

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services. You cannot just have an unlimited number of students coming

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here without understanding the impact that might happen on public

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services. Think people forget -- and the thing people forget is that if

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you want to improve your infrastructure or build new

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infrastructure, it takes many years. In doing that, you need to make

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predictions about the size of your population and how many houses you

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need to build, how many hospital places, how many hospital beds,

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school places. If you do not have ideas about what these numbers might

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look like, you cannot properly plan and we have seen the consequences of

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not being able to plan because immigration has been out of control,

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where we have unsustainable pressure on public services and housing.

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Anyone sensible will say, let's get a grip of this, let's start to

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understand what the numbers will look like over the next five or ten

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years. By setting parameters but leaving flexibility within the

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parameters, you are starting to be able to make some predictions about

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where the population is going and then that means you can properly

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plan infrastructure. That is the sensible thing to do. Back to

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seasonal workers, there you go, that is how it works. You can have a

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six-month seasonal Visa if you are coming to work in the agricultural

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is nice. I don't think we are very productive in this country during

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the winter months when there is no or frost on the ground. They need to

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be here when the work is available and that is during the summer

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months. So we issue a six-month months. So we issue a six-month

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visa. We also want to encourage our own people to get back into that

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industry. These to be a time when it was a rite of passage for people

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going through an internal gap year in this country on the way to

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university or at university, to get some extra cash in, what would they

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do? They would go fruit picking. That was the way we work an

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interesting and productive economy. The idea that we just have to keep

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looking abroad all the time to fill our requirements is crazy. We need

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to make sure we have used up the human capital that exists in this

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country and maximised its potential mop and then let's attract as many

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people are make sense from anywhere in the world. I am not interested in

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the colour of their skin, their religion, their sexuality, I don't

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care. If they can bring about used to this country and it fits in with

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what we're trying to achieve, great, welcome to Britain. Last question, I

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will take two. Have you bought a house in Boston and Skegness? I have

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not, but nor did I buy a house in Stoke. It will be rented. Will I be

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staying in the constituency? staying in the constituency?

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Probably at some point. Next question. In terms of the six-month

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Visa for seasonal workers, you talked about wanting to reduce

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entitlement in Britain, what happens if they do not take up this role? Is

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a danger you become a parody party, without any MPs? Are you almost

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becoming a parody party? I think you will find the majority of seasonal

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workers in this country are British. But beyond that, are we a parody of

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ourselves? Well, look, we were not actually just at the forefront but

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the party that forced the biggest decision the British people have

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ever made in a generation and could possibly be the decision we will --

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the biggest decision we have made in the first part of the century, the

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decision for us to leave the European Union. I think we have been

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quite successful. I spoke to Steven Woolfe a few weeks ago and he said

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that Ukip have lost their way. They once had a golden opportunity but

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the next election will be a breaking point for them. What do you think of

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those comments? He would say that, wouldn't it? That's it. Thank you

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very much. Right, well done. Cheers.

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