14/03/2017 First Minister's Questions


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Good afternoon, welcome to the programme and our weekly

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coverage of questions to the First Minister.

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Carwyn Jones' place will be taken by Jane Hutt today

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and she can expect questions on a range of subjects

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including business rates, energy efficiency and how Government

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Don't forget we're on Twitter @walespolitics, where you can see

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For now, business in the Chamber is already well underway -

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so let's take a look now at today's First Minister's Questions.

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Call the National Assembly to order in the first item on agenda this

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afternoon is questions to the First Minister and I have received

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notification understanding order that the leader of the house will

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answer questions today on behalf of the First Minister. Question one,

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Nick Ramsay. Will be leader of the house provide an update on support

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available to businesses affected by the business rate re-evaluation. The

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Welsh Government has announced an extra ?20 million to support

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businesses affected by this. ?10 million through transitional relief

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scheme and ?20 million through high-street rate. This is action to

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provide certainty and security to ratepayers in Wales affected by

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re-evaluation. Thank you for that answer. Business is in my

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constituency continue to be deeply concerned by the business rate

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re-evaluation. What any support is welcome, I hear about the relief

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that your Government has announced the additional discount every drop

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in the ocean for those businesses facing the busiest hikes. What about

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the businesses who will not benefit from the scheme of support and will

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be Government look again at raising the threshold at which businesses

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are paying business rates in order to avert some of the large-scale

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business closures which I fear are going to happen after April? Para

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?10 million transitional rates relief scheme will assist businesses

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his entitlement to small business rates relief would be adversely

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affected by the evaluation. Her ?10 million high-street rates relief

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specifically targets businesses in your constituency. We listened to

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the concerned responding to be some businesses in Wales. These are

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bespoke funded schemes and indeed they are in addition to a ?100

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million small business rates relief. As a result, three quarters of

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businesses will receive help in their bills and development 17 and

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2018. Reader of the house, as a result of the evaluation, the

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average rateable value has decreased by 6.1%. With this be a fairly

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common pattern across the area, what impact could this have on the Welsh

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Government's policy towards promoting economic prosperity across

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the South Wales Valleys? The statistics published by the

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evaluation are showing that total rateable value will fall in all of

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the values. That does mean the majority of ratepayers in these

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areas will benefit from reduction in their bills and of course, we have

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acted to provide that additional support to businesses through an

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extension of ?100 million small business rates relief scheme. Of

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course, business Wales and all the other levers that will assist

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businesses in your constituency will have a bearing on economic

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opportunity. Including the city deal which is a key partner. Adam Price.

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Notwithstanding that point, this is fundamentally an unfair tax. It is

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wreaking economic carnage on our high-street. Isn't it time to scrap

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this tax altogether and replace it with something like an Internet

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sales tax? Clearly this is an issue where we have worked over a period

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of time as a pro-business Government to take action to help new and

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existing businesses and do indeed look at the impact, not just in

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terms of re-evaluation, but our business support scheme. We are

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looking at a new permanent scheme in terms of small business rates relief

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from 2018. Supporting ways that reflect the needs of Wales. We have

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engaged widely as possible about our scheme in a short time available

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between the publication of its traffic waiting list and the date by

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which these regulations had to be in place. It is their scheme, we have

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to make sure that it redistributes the amount payable between

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properties reflecting changes in the property market. That is their

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responsibility. Leader of the house, the business rate re-evaluation is

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spitting at our high-street at risk. Many small businesses are facing

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huge hikes in the rates bills, yet their turnover is not increasing.

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For many, the only alternative is to stick rental properties with smaller

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rateable values of the high and this could be the final straw that broke

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the camel's back for small independent high-street retailers.

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The UK Government's latest budget proposes a cap on the business rate

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increases for those small firms set to lose their rate relief. Will the

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Government consider doing something similar for small high-street

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retailers here in Wales? Can I does make it clear that we are doing it

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more than the UK Government and if you look at the funding for the

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rates relief measures that the Chancellor announced last week, it

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will amount to just over ?12 million and if we had relied on that, it

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would have meant ?8 million less support for small businesses in

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Wales. We have got to fully funded this book schemes. I'm sure many of

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your businesses in your constituency will particularly benefit from

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those, not just the transitional scheme, but also the new scheme,

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which specifically targets the high-street ratepayers. What

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consideration how the First Minister given to prioritising energy

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efficiency and homes as part of National infrastructure policy in

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Wales? Investing in housing including energy efficiency is

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already a priority in the plan, a long-term vision and the actions we

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are taking in this important area are set out in the energy efficiency

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strategy published last year. There's a lot of excellent work

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already being done in Wales, but putting domestic energy efficiency

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alongside other nationally important infrastructure programmes could have

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multiple benefits, including massively boosting efforts to tackle

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fuel poverty, including the health and well-being of older citizens,

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reducing energy constructing, reducing the number of power plants,

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creating new jobs in streets entreaties to throughout the land.

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Far from being a win-win, it would be a win win, win win. As we await

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the results of the recent consultation on the National

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Infrastructure Commission, could I ask the leader of the house and the

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First Minister and his cabinet to consider seriously the huge

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potential for Wales bidding energy efficiency for wealth of National

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infrastructure and the transformative effect it could have

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on future perspire tea and well-being. I am completely with the

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member. If you look at the opportunities we have in terms of

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interceptor, not only delivering on carbon reduction commitment,

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multiplier benefit effects on some the outcomes, better inflated homes,

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tackling fuel poverty, creating jobs and economic activity. I will say

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that it is important. We have been refining the remit in terms of

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reference for the proposed National Infrastructure Commission for Wells

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following a response to feedback from consultation and will include

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economic and environmental infrastructure, including energy and

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it will be looking at the interactions with social

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infrastructure on housing and across cutting delivery issues. Our housing

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stock is among the oldest in Europe and we really need to focus on

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schemes of retrofitting, because a lot of that housing stock is

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occupied by people who have low incomes or are otherwise vulnerable.

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If we improve the skills and develop retrofitting projects, we would then

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find a other parts of the UK for those goals and products and indeed

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other parts of Europe. Indeed, and I think this is where it is important

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that we are working with industry in terms of the opportunities for

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skills base. We're looking at in which we can develop the skills and

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experience, not only of our workforce, our young people, but

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also clearly through the apprenticeship schemes that we are

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supporting. Thank you, Presiding Officer. I agree with the original

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question. There is no better example of what we debated last week than

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investing in this area where you link in the skills that are local

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and ensure that Welsh Government capital spend a spread across Wales

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as well, because the Society regional problem, it is spread

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across Wales in terms of the houses that we have. We are looking for a

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clearer cited purpose around investment in energy efficiency and

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something that fits into the National Infrastructure Commission

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and the task and aim of that commission. I have already said that

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we are going to change the remit as a result of consultation. It is

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important that we recognise we are continuing to invest 100 into ?8

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million annually to ensure over 222,000 social homes meet and

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maintain a Welsh Housing quality standards that David Melding

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referred to, the older housing stock in Wales. The sender does require

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all existing social housing homes to be brought up to an energy rating of

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Dior above. This is an all Wales programme with the budget of ?20

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million to be made available to support this programme. Questions

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now from the party leader, leader of Plaid Cymru, Leanne Wood. Although

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our economic potential is yet to be fulfilled, we can already see that

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Wales is a strong exporting nation. Last year, we headed ?2.2 billion

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surplus with the EU, Harris Fire plus was higher than 2015 when it

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was ?1.5 billion. With non-EU countries we had a trade deficit of

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?2.3 billion, well the UK as a whole hand trade deficits with both the EU

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and is non-EU markets. What future do you see for our EU trade surplus

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if we are taken out of the single market? It is important that we

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recognise the value of exports for Wales for the year up to and

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including 2016, ?12.3 billion, an increase of ?725 million on the

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previous year. As the leader of Plaid Cymru, Wales benefit hugely

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from the EU 's and got market with access to over 500 million

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customers. That is clearly going to be a huge impact in terms of the

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prospects in terms of how we exit and how we make sure Wales'

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interests are safeguarded. Plaid Cymru predicts a difficult future to

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those exporters who rely upon the single market. We now have some in

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the UK Government talking about leaving the EU without any deal at

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all, which would effectively mean WTO own rules and that would be the

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hardest possible tech of Brexit. It could lead to future targets and

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other barriers. On the social and our mental side, it could lead to

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deregulation and of lowering standards. The UK Government has now

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indicated that Article 50 will be sent later this month. That means it

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is a winter of opportunity. The window where there can be some

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influence. The Welsh Government has said that it wants to be consulted.

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I wonder if you can tell us, had he been consulted yet? What are the

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implications of the UK Government issuing that Article 50 letter

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without a fully consulting Wales as to its content?

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Clearly we want a process that is sensitive to the interests of world

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map. We with Plaid Cymru the position. This included continued

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preserve put Britain's vision of the single market. Certainly, we want

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and expect to be consulted on any Article 50 letter before it issues.

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The First Minister made it clear to the UK Government that anything less

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would be incompatible with the approach that they agreed to the

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joint ministerial committee after the referendum results. We have, of

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course, sent a copy of the White Paper to the European Commission. It

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clear what your Government wants. It's not clear what you will do if

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you don't get it. Yesterday, we saw how the mishandling of Brexit will

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leads to a new referendum on Scottish independence. That

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referendum could end the United Kingdom, the state as we know it

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could cease to exist. That would be a radical change for Wales. It would

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also greatly opportunity to be bolder and more ambitious ads were

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confident about our own future. I suspect that there may be people in

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this chamber who supported the Scottish no campaign last time that

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would now feel less comfortable doing so. Leader of the house, the

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First Minister's statement yesterday on a Scottish independence

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referendum lacks detail. It says almost nothing on the future of

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world map. Can you add more detail on reducing the Government taking

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will snag over the next two years? What plans does your Government have

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to put in place for the constitutional and economic future

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of this country? I do go back to your second question about

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engagement and instruments. -- and influence in terms of Article 50.

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The point I would make is that we need to work together understood

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sure that securing Wilson 's future -- will ... We should use our cloud

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as co-signatories of the paper. In terms of your third question, it's

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right that the constitutional future of Scotland is decided by the people

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of Scotland. We believe that the UK remains better together. Last year,

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Welsh Labour was elected on a message of togetherness. The

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important thing for us today is that as the party and Government we

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remain committed both to the union and the ongoing GMC process relating

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to exiting the EU. The Scots say that they have no intention of

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walking away from the GMC where we have common cause on many issues in

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terms of our negotiations of exiting the EU. Leader of the Welsh

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Conservatives. Many have seen in the last week, the shocking images of

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drug abuse, people, toes in public areas. We can only feel sorry for

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the full that have fallen so low. We would like to see as many safeguards

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as possible put in place to rectify the people's proper. -- the people's

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problem. Many of us will recognise the image of a town in Wales from

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these images. Today, we have the north police and firemen

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Commissioner. On this side of the house, we don't believe that is the

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case. I would be grateful if you could give us a Government response

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as to what actually you are taking as the Welsh Government given that

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you held a meeting with the Police Commissioner last week to address

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the shortcomings in this particular area. It's important to be looked at

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north Wales particularly. The most of my prize of ?4.9 million of

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substance misuse action fund to this area. -- the Government provides

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?4.9 million. The issue in terms of paraphernalia and the visibility of

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individuals with issues with substance misuse in the town centre,

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that clearly as to result in a cross, multi-agency approach. That

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includes not Wales police and also the local authority and voluntary

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sector organisations. I had hoped that since the time has lapped we

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might have had a fuller answer. The Welsh Government in 2000 and 84 for

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a strategy to reduce harm. These images make it seem that this

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strategy is not working. What a valuation has the Welsh Government

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is taken of this strategy and the support that is in place for the

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local authorities and the police forces and support agencies in

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Health and Social Care to add to the address these issues that are

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happening day in and day out, week in and week out, on the streets

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across Wales, that are crying out for a solution and support from

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central Government, in particular as you have had this 10-year strategy

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in place that is coming towards the end. We are still seeing these

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horrific images portrayed in the media as happening in public spaces

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as we seek. I have identified investment in the substance misuse

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action fund. That is available to those that are delivering on the

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ground not well. -- underground for thrills. They have developed an

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action plan, a comprehensive town centre action plan. It's got a

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number of actions. It has to be about the constantly changing needs

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and circumstances in terms of substance misuse. There are a number

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of planned project coordinated by people. This is identifying hotspot

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service and clean-up is taking place. It's also important to

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recognise that this is about the substance misuse that we need to

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look at in terms of best practice. That is where the new substance

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misuse delivery plan is so Bertrand. -- is so Bertrand. Everyone seems to

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blaming everyone else rather than actually getting to grips with the

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problem. The Welsh Nationalists believe that legalising drugs is the

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sensible alternative. From this side of the house, we do not believe this

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is the solution. In particular, the deaths from drugs have doubled since

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2012. That is clearly not a road to solving this problem. Well, there's

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lots of mumbling coming from the other side of the house. From the

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Government, there needs to be a working group set up by the Welsh

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Government to pull together the charities and health bodies and

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policing crime commission not Wales. To make sure that we can get a court

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may could approach to dealing with this issue, there seems to be a

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plain culture developing rather than -- be a blame culture developing

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rather than getting to grips with the serious issue that many of these

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people face and the tragedy that their lives have spirals out of

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control and ultimately they need the support of Government, working with

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sponsor bodies, to put the measures in place. Can you confirm that you

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will do that? I have identified not only the strategy and investment but

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I would hope that Andrew RT Davies is also speaking to the Conservative

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councillors in Wrexham and the independent counsel those that are

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at the sharp end of being responsible. With our support and

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the multi-agency panel. These of you can. The leader of the house will

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have seen that last year's budget was not an unqualified success for

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the Chancellor. Does she and most governments for any lessons from

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that experience with a view to how they are going to exercise the tax

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varying powers we are to obtain under the Wales act? I do think that

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in terms of last week, I think it has been described as a shambles.

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Certainly, a budget that has hit self-employed people very hard. A ?2

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million hike in national insurance contributions. That is affecting

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many of the people we talk about in the FSB talks about in terms of

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self-employed people. These ID risk-takers spearheading both. --

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these are the risk-takers. Filming to learn lessons from us. The

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additional funding... Can I say, you've asked me the question... The

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additional funding doesn't alter the magnitude of spending reductions be

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faced for future years, despite the small additions. The capital budget

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will still be less than in real terms to certain of 11. With

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respect, you didn't answer my question. What I was keen to elicit

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was whether it makes it more or less likely that the Welsh Government

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will use its powers to Vivienne, green -- vary its income tax. Lower

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tax rates can produce higher tax revenues. In the 1980s, Nigel Lawson

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reduced taxes and that was the effect. In 1979, the top 1% of

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earners paid 11% of all tax revenues. By 1997, they paid 21%, in

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spite of the fact that the club band of income tax had been reduced. --

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of the fact that the top band. Let's not make Wales into a kind of tax

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haven. I don't think we'd expect anything different from the reader

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of Ukip. I would have hoped that you would be considering the impact of

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the Chancellor's budget last week. The impact on the people that we

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represent. The impact of the fact that the sting in the tail of that

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budget and forecast is that there is a 3.5 billion cut plans by the

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Government for 1920. -- February 20 20. That is what I'm concerned. Of

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course, we have to look at that in terms of the implications of this

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budget. For self-employed and also the progress people and will. With

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respect, I'll try again. I still haven't had an answer. Does the

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reader of the house except that lower tax rates can produce higher

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tax revenues? In which case, everybody wins. As far as the UK

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Government is concerned, we take responsibility and have a

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responsibility that we are not taking through registration in terms

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of evolved and coming our way. We look forward to debating this in the

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next couple of weeks. In -- we need to recognise the adverse impact of

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the divisions made by Phil. He fumbled his budget angrily to

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recognise that that is bad, the fact that it is undermining the ICO to

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promote the UK as a place to start a business. Will Leader of the

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House... The investment dealers Government is making to benefit all

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parts of Wales and all aspects of society. The Government's own

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figures show that the level of Welsh Government capital expenditure on

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infrastructure in south-east Wales is twice that per head in north

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Wales and three times the figure for mid and west Wales. Its concern over

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huge investment cap led us to vote against the supplementary budget

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last week. What assurance... Lets you the question. What assurance can

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she give my party and members on all sides who represents those regions

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that we will have equal investment for all parts of Wales so that we

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can see Chris Berry T-shirt? I think the member has seen the

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combined Welsh Government allocations for local authorities,

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the Health Board, police authorities for 2017, 2018. And has seen that

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there is only one area where there is a slightly different powerhead

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allocation and I would want to share this again with the member. In terms

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of capital expenditure on an all Wales basis, that is crucially

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important in terms of investment in social housing, in best win in 20%

:28:41.:28:46.

through schools, investment in transport. I can again give you the

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investments in floods and coastal risk management, supporting the Hall

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of Wales, ?144 million, to improve our road network. In terms of North

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Wales, ?50 million to advance the north-east Wales Metro with

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potential to expand west in the future. In terms of the

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supplementary budget, we were... What was in that supplementary

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budget is very important to be people of Wales. It is ?170 billion

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to support the Welsh NHS. Just to give one example, and ?16 million

:29:25.:29:33.

for a treatment fund and an additional ?20 million funding for

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higher education and an additional ?85.5 billion to support

:29:38.:29:40.

construction and maintenance to be tried and road network in Wales.

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Let's say... Let's recognise the importance of our considerations.

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Thank you, Presiding Officer. Cabinet Secretary, there is a

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Cardiff capital region city deal as a proposed Swansea be city deal,

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what consideration has been given to a mid Wales deal on the same skill

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to ensure there is a similar level of investment in the fourth

:30:22.:30:25.

remaining economic region of Wales? There has been work done, as you

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know, in terms of how we can respond to opportunities in mid Wales. It is

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also relevant to say and very pertinent to your patch is that

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these are about budget choices in terms of those cuts to the capital

:30:45.:30:46.

programme that I have already spoken about. Five new primary schools we

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are building had been recently announced as part of the 21st

:30:54.:30:59.

century schools programme. That is so important. The prospects of

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children and young people in terms of growth opportunities in mid

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Wales. Although he would not believe it, there was quite a degree of

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consensus last week during the debate on the foundational economy,

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which has already been mentioned by Simon Thomas. It was agreed

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unanimously in the Chamber that small businesses connected with each

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other in a way that doesn't happen in large firms. Networks of social

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capital need to be extended beyond local social context. It was agreed.

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It was further agreed that the geography of the South Wales Valleys

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has been a barrier to death in the past. With the reader of the house

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therefore accept that the Government investment focused in this area to

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be successful, the Northern Valleys need to be seen as interdependent

:31:45.:31:47.

communities looking east and west and not simply spokes linking into a

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city hub. It is always good when we get back to consensus in this

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Chamber as we did very much a that debate on economy. The Cabinet

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sector of the economy and transport responded to very positively. I was

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also interested to see the very strong arguments for the points you

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are making on the northern Valleys interdependency with Vicky Howells

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in an article in the Westerman mail. It is a very personal point in terms

:32:21.:32:25.

of the city region deal, because we have to make sure that this is

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recognised, the northern Valleys recognise. It is not just been put

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down it is going up on it is that mutual interdependency. Will the

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reader has 87 on the provision for people on the otters spectrum in

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Wales. -- otters. We have had extensive consultation.

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Thank you for that response. The National Society for Wales has asked

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for a record of the number of people on the spectrum in order to assist

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local authorities to plan the services more effectively and in a

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war competence of manner. One would expect a record of people who have a

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care plan for next April onwards, but there are a number of people who

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do not have a care plan and there are others who go in and out of the

:33:30.:33:33.

system. When will your Government insist that a full record is kept in

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order to ensure that the proper resources and facilities are

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provided were needed in all parts of Wales? I thank the member for that

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question. It is their relevant to the work that has been taken forward

:33:45.:33:51.

by an implementation advisory group for the autistic spectrum disorder

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strategic action plan for Wales. The National Autistic Society is sitting

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on that import meditation group and as it is a world autism awareness

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Day later this month, the group is going to be meeting for the written

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at the end of the month. Wooding at that time, it is... It needs data.

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It is also about the new 26 waiting time targets from a referral for

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first appointment for children with autism and other neurodevelopmental

:34:22.:34:32.

diseases to speed up the reports. Leader of the house, I understand

:34:33.:34:34.

there are a strategic action plans in place only for five or six months

:34:35.:34:40.

now, but what we really need to see is how the gaps in provision of

:34:41.:34:45.

services, particularly services going to be fulfilled within

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Pembrokeshire, there is a massive gap in the provision of services for

:34:48.:34:52.

adults with autism and neither Pembrokeshire County Council nor the

:34:53.:34:56.

local Health Board appear to have vacancies of enough method of being

:34:57.:34:59.

able to plug those gaps. What can you the wealth Government do to

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encourage that happen, because I can tell you know, you are strategic

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action plan isn't even touching the sides on that? Look like the ?6

:35:09.:35:13.

million we put into developing our new integrated autism service will

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start at the Cannes impact that the member would want to see. It is an

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investment over three years which will be rolled out over a Wales by

:35:21.:35:28.

2019. It's going to see new specialist teams in every region

:35:29.:35:30.

providing adult diagnosis, supporting in the community and

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helping their parents and carers. Will be leader of the house provide

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an update on the work problem of the Welsh European funding office

:35:45.:35:47.

between now and the exit from the European Union? The European funding

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office for Wales is continuing to implement the EU funding programmes

:35:54.:35:55.

as agreed with the European Commission to deliver jobs and

:35:56.:35:59.

growth. Newly to those of the fund had been committed to date and our

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aim is to invest all of the funds available to Wales by early 2019.

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Thank you for that, but as you may already know, as well as indicating

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that equivalent money should come to Wales after exit, with this giving

:36:13.:36:17.

evidence to the external affairs committee have said this is an

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opportunity to do things differently in terms of regional funding. Can

:36:20.:36:25.

you tell me how many of the applications are currently

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predicated on the private sector kicking the delivery lead and what

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advice regarding bidders for that remaining money to make sure that

:36:31.:36:35.

long-term projects are structurally flexible enough to make sure that

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they can last ones the days of the commission directing regional

:36:41.:36:45.

funding have gone? Clearly multi-million projects in crude

:36:46.:36:51.

business Wales, apprenticeships, they are directly relevant for the

:36:52.:36:56.

private sector. You will be aware that in your region, they are making

:36:57.:37:01.

an impact by boosting business, helping them to increase work

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prospects and skills of our people. Also ensuring that through programme

:37:06.:37:10.

monitoring committee we are engaging fully with Welsh stakeholders,

:37:11.:37:13.

including the private sector in terms of the Commonwealth position

:37:14.:37:18.

on future arrangements for regional funding in Wales. That is critically

:37:19.:37:23.

important. The PMC is shared by Julie Morgan. Critically important

:37:24.:37:35.

of safeguarding those investments. It operates under EU regional

:37:36.:37:38.

policy, they are not going to be there in two years. What I'm asking

:37:39.:37:42.

is, what discussions have you had with the UK Government about a

:37:43.:37:46.

future in regional policy and how have you taken the opportunity to be

:37:47.:37:49.

created on the agenda to ensure that what happens in Wales can be unique

:37:50.:37:53.

to the country goes back I think our white paper at securing Wales'

:37:54.:37:57.

future is vitally important, because it does lay out what we made clear

:37:58.:38:03.

as far as regional economic next development. It is a clear that that

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is a devolved competence and it must remain so. We would resist firmly

:38:08.:38:12.

any attempt by the UK Government to reverse any form of devolution and

:38:13.:38:17.

take control of regional policy, so I'm glad of having the opportunity

:38:18.:38:21.

to put that on record today. It is important that we have got

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engagement through the joint administer real committee on

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negotiations which the Cabinet sector of finance of local

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Government represents us and he presented our White Paper in their

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meeting on the aid of debris. -- on the 8th of February.

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Will the leader of the house make a comment on post 16 education Wales?

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It insures our young people can excessive skills that they need to

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develop their careers and that adults can develop their careers and

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support our growing economy. Thank you. There is been a a lot of talk

:39:09.:39:17.

about the need for something between. But they have failed to

:39:18.:39:23.

deliver on that talk. A recent report showed that there was an

:39:24.:39:31.

oversight of finances for colleges. ?22 million to our colleges over the

:39:32.:39:37.

past five years. That has stifled them been able to make progress. In

:39:38.:39:42.

fact, nearly half of our Welsh colleges carry large deficits and

:39:43.:39:51.

are closed to eat into their savings. What action might the Welsh

:39:52.:39:54.

Government be able to take as a result of the savings which will be

:39:55.:39:57.

secured through changes to higher education student support, in terms

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of some of that cash being be invested in order to rebalance the

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situation in terms of parity between both forms of education? He may

:40:10.:40:20.

talk, we deliver. I have to say... Haven't delivered anything. Our

:40:21.:40:32.

approach, we have established an approach to vocational and technical

:40:33.:40:37.

qualifications that we've actually developed in consultation with

:40:38.:40:41.

employees. We've benefited from collaboration, engaging with

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Northern Ireland and Scotland, internationally recognised approach

:40:46.:40:51.

to apprenticeships, vocational and technical qualifications. As we can

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see by the investment and commitments to 100,000

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apprenticeships. And we have the original shirt skills partnerships.

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That is to determine the need for skills. I don't recognise the points

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you make at all. Those employers that I met last week, who are

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concerned to get young people into science and technology, engineering

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and maths. They say that actually parity with vocational opportunities

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are vital for young people. Apprenticeships is something that

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young aspire to. Along the same lines, there is UK research that

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showed that only 17% of kids -- of was the... More thought higher

:41:52.:41:58.

education as the best option for them. The perception still exists

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that there isn't parity of esteem between vocational and academic

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courses. Can I ask what he Welsh Government is doing, for example, to

:42:12.:42:17.

promote perceptions of the research that shows that the probable

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earnings of the best apprenticeships, many thousands of

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pounds more over the course of their careers by students that have been

:42:25.:42:30.

in higher education outside the main group of universities? Without the

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debts that results from that codification. -- from that

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education. 100,000 apprenticeships speaks for itself in terms of our

:42:45.:42:51.

apprenticeship. The fact that it enables young people to reach their

:42:52.:42:57.

potential. As you say, the Sutton trust research is very valuable and

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pertinent. Clearly in terms of our statutory duty to provide education

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for an owners up to the age of 18, we have protected and mitigated the

:43:12.:43:17.

brand of reductions from the UK Government. As a result of the

:43:18.:43:22.

budget agreement, we have put an additional ?30 million in to support

:43:23.:43:25.

further and higher education. That is having a huge impact in terms of

:43:26.:43:30.

targeting investment. As making the opportunities for young people real.

:43:31.:43:35.

They can progress anyway from apprenticeships into higher

:43:36.:43:40.

education and into very well paid and long-lasting jobs and careers.

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Question seven. Our local energy service promotes services across

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Wales back. It keeps the benefits of renewable energy projects within

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Wales. We can look at how these projects will be a new continued to

:44:05.:44:12.

develop. These mechanisms stand within the very proud cooperative

:44:13.:44:18.

tradition of promoting local enterprise and social benefit.

:44:19.:44:20.

Particularly for technical reasons they are easy-to-use and more

:44:21.:44:25.

flexible than traditional charitable approaches. They are an excellent

:44:26.:44:36.

way to Vermont communities schemes. -- to promote community schemes. I

:44:37.:44:41.

do commend the efforts that have been going on in the not-for-profit

:44:42.:44:49.

sector. I do think that the Government could do with Bush in

:44:50.:44:55.

this area. I agree with all the points. The community shareholders

:44:56.:45:02.

have raised over 5.5 million since 2010. You will be very aware of

:45:03.:45:09.

these community projects. We related to commercial developers work more

:45:10.:45:13.

closely with communities are shared ownership and investment. I think it

:45:14.:45:21.

is important, you mentioned the cooperative Centre, we are proud of

:45:22.:45:29.

that, that helps communities to share experience of how to develop

:45:30.:45:34.

local energy services. Question eight. With the Leader of the House

:45:35.:45:43.

make a statement on the duties of traffic officers? They are there to

:45:44.:45:59.

serve up to the English border. Her, as the Leader of the House has

:46:00.:46:02.

confirmed, traffic officers are not Wales patrol A55. It doesn't stop

:46:03.:46:16.

at, plus. It continues to Anglesey. This, according to police officers,

:46:17.:46:21.

is causing problems. It ties up resources in dealing with road

:46:22.:46:25.

accidents and so on. These don't happen in other portables with my.

:46:26.:46:32.

-- in other parts of north Wales. With the Government look again at

:46:33.:46:37.

the cover and strategy. -- will be Government look again at this

:46:38.:46:45.

strategy? The traffic officer service was originally devised to

:46:46.:46:50.

cover business sections of the road network. We inherited this PFI

:46:51.:46:57.

contract, as you will be aware. It has, in terms of responsibilities,

:46:58.:47:00.

we need to look carefully at the impact of that. In terms of cough

:47:01.:47:06.

and service. In the north, the server survey was A55. The two then

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need to see that we extend this cover. We need to improve its

:47:18.:47:28.

resilience. Finally, question nine. May I ask the leader of the house in

:47:29.:47:33.

this budget on part of the First Minister what plans he has to meet

:47:34.:47:36.

the Scottish First Minister to discuss the relationship with the

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Rabin union? They spoke yesterday and continues to have regular

:47:43.:47:47.

discussions with hard-boiled bilaterally and in meetings with the

:47:48.:47:49.

joint receiver committee and British-Irish Council. And quicker

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for the response and ensure that the First Minister wallop at an

:47:59.:48:01.

interesting conversation with the Scottish First Minister. Because

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there is so much in common between the Scottish Government White Paper

:48:06.:48:21.

and the red White Paper of Plaid Cymru, Dusty Welsh Government sees

:48:22.:48:26.

the importance, whatever the decision taken by Scotland on its

:48:27.:48:29.

constitutional future, that's seem out of them, of course, that there

:48:30.:48:36.

is a role for collaboration on the current negotiations between the UK

:48:37.:48:42.

and the EU, particularly to safeguard unfettered access to the

:48:43.:48:47.

single market for both nations? There is considerable common ground

:48:48.:48:51.

between our white papers secure ring Wales future. In particular,

:48:52.:49:00.

Scotland's place in Europe emphasises the economic importance

:49:01.:49:04.

of the single market and the vital contribution of migrant workers to

:49:05.:49:09.

businesses. The critical need to respect devolution settlement.

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That's 21st Minister has taken the lead in calling for those

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arrangements. -- that's where the First Minister has taken the lead.

:49:23.:49:26.

He convened an extraordinary British Irish vessel summit last July to

:49:27.:49:34.

other -- to allow to discuss the referendum.

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There we are - that was First Minister's Questions.

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If you want more more coverage of the National Assembly, you can go

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online to BBC Wales's Senedd Live page at BBC.co.uk/Walespolitics.

:49:43.:49:45.

If you want more Welsh politics this week, don't forget

:49:46.:49:47.

the Wales Report with Huw Edwards after the Ten O'Clock News

:49:48.:49:50.

As for today though, from all of us on the programme, goodbye.

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It was the most beautiful view I've ever been through.

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For one second, I was swimming on my back, and I was looking to the sky.

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I was swimming across the Aegean Sea.

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I was a refugee, going from Syria to Germany.

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The very embodiment of the England that must emerge.

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I have my own path to follow. Destiny.

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