28/03/2017 First Minister's Questions


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Good afternoon and welcome to the programme, our weekly coverage of


questions to the First Minister. Carwyn Jones expects questions and


public transport, jobs for Newport and the funding of social care. Away


from the chamber, you can follow Welsh politics and our Twitter feed.


Business in the Assembly has started so let's cross to questions from the


First Minister -- for the First Minister.


TRANSLATION: The first item on the agenda is questions to the First


Minister. Will the First Minister make a statement on public transport


provision in south-east Wales. The plan sets out the measures we are


taking to make sure the south-east is connected by effective, modern


and fully into -- fully integrated public transport. The decision and


the awarding of the new Welsh border franchise is critically important


for south-east Wales and for the Wales Metro. You mentioned at the


end of your answer the importance of integration. Will you update us on


the process of awarding the franchise, given that the metro map


includes bus and train routes? What are you doing to make sure that the


independency of those two is insured in the new franchise? The franchise


is going well but I wouldn't expect to cross railway services with bus


services. Next year the government and the Assembly will have the


opportunity to integrate bus and rail services given the fact that


control will rest in the same place. It has been five years since the


report making a case for a step change in public transport was


published. A colour matter and rail costs about the same as on a


motorway but carries eight to 20 more people, so I wonder what the


government has done to deal with the congestion we currently have on the


Mfor east of Cardiff. That road is affected by many problems. -- the


M4. The Metro will improve and upgrade the existing lines and the


next phases will include light rail but that is some years away. The


initial focus will be on heavy rail lines that exists but there are


significant opportunities for modal shift via the metro in years to


come. Last Thursday morning the leaders of Bridgend Council and


another council gave a statement on the advantage of the metro. They


argued that it needs to connect across the northern valleys and not


just strengthen links to and from Cardiff. Will the First Minister


agree and commit to ensuring this happens? The metro is not a greater


Cardiff transports six -- system. The fact that it will be based in


Pontypridd gives an example of our commitment to valleys communities.


Many people commute from one valley to another. The railway lines once


connected those areas but they are long gone so we need to look at how


we can upgrade bus services to provide those connections. In stand


up no-op on Saturday at the Welsh Labour conference. -- inland at no.


Every train on the Wales and border line will have a roll-out of free


Wi-Fi, starting with 50 of the busiest stations in Wales, and a 12


month pilot a free weekend travel. Isn't this further evidence that the


Welsh Labour government is on the side of commuters and what further


action can improve public transport in my constituency and in Wales? I


thank her for grinding me of what I said at the weekend. It is a


commitment that we make to commuters, the fact that we are


upgrading the Metro, we are committed to the north-east Metro,


we are looking at upgrading trains, the fact that when powers come to us


we will look to upgrading the bus system, and we will do things to


make it easier and more comfortable to travel by rail and bus in the


future. TRANSLATION: What discussions has the Welsh government


held with Newsquest regarding public money used to establish the


company's sub editing Centre in Newport? We are in ongoing


discussions with Newsquest regarding its ongoing and planned


redundancies. Officials have received assurances and current


staffing levels and we will use this to determine whether the conditions


of the grant have been breached. Will you therefore confirm that you


will actually try to recoup every penny if the full terms and


conditions have been breached and will you reconsider the way you do


support the local press? This is an NUJ campaign in terms of local news


matters. Wouldn't it be more appropriate for the Welsh government


to establish an independent fund for Independent news so that all


companies could be brought into that to support Welsh and English


language journalism? It is right that we should pursue every penny.


If terms and conditions were breached. Secondly, with the fund,


we are going to establish an independent forum for the media to


consider the challenges over the ensuring years and see which way we


have strong and robust local media. -- in assuming years. The staff at


Newsquest are very worried. Along with the trade union I have spoken


to staff, who estimate there will be less than ten fewer full-time roles


at the end of the process and that full-time high skilled jobs will be


replaced by more part-time administrative roles. Newsquest say


they employ approximately 60 staff in Newport and support editorial and


publishing teams across the organisation. Does the Welsh


government know how the figure of 60 staff equates to full-time roles in


Newport and what assurances have you received to ensure that Newsquest


continues to meet their obligations to their staff and the government?


We are aware of 14 planned redundancies. In 2015 we provide


money to Newsquest towards the creation and safeguarding of jobs.


That award was conditional on the jobs being replaced in May 20 20.


The operation has exceeded that target for job creation so far but


it is important that they honour that, if they don't we will pull the


money back. I asked the same question last week regarding the sub


editing Centre in Newport. You confirms that the grant of the money


in May 2015 was in -- on condition of jobs being in place until May of


2020. It now appears that the staff in Newport were placed at risk of


redundancy. Can I ask whether the Welsh government was aware of these


redundancies and if so what representations were made to the


company at that time to remind them of the condition attached to the


award of grant funding from this Assembly? As I said, the conditions


of the grant have been met thus far but they have to be met until May of


2020 otherwise we will seek to recoup the money. As far as


officials are concerned, there have been discussions for some time with


Newsquest. As customary in these situations we look to see what help


we can offer but let it be very clear that if the conditions of the


grant are not met then we will take action to recoup the money. I know


that many of the journalists working at the sub editing in Newport were


from Cardiff, having already been made redundant by Trinity Mirror,


which has also seen wave after wave of job losses. What more can the


Welsh government do to stop large private companies which run local


news titles decimating the industry further and does he know of any


funding available for journalists who may want to set up local news


websites? Officials have provided information on services available to


redundant workers. Business Wales is available in order to look at the


kind of financial help that has been mentioned, but there is no doubt


that many of us fear that we will see a steady diminishing of local


and national news coverage across Wales, which is why the independent


media Forum is being set up and one of their objectives will be to look


at ways of making sure that people are properly informed and not


misled. Tomorrow the UK Government will trigger Article 50, beginning


the process by which the UK, or at least some parts of it, will leave


the European Union. You have previously said that you expect to


be consulted prior to Article 50 night and being made. Can you tell


us what consultation has taken place and what you expect to see in the


Article 50 letter? We discussed this at length last week when I met with


the Prime Minister and David Davis. It was unclear then on the part of


the UK Government whether it would be a short or a longer letter out


loud in -- outlining the entire case but it seems to me that what will


happen is that the letter will simply be sent explaining what the


UK is planning to do. I don't expect there to be anything in the letter


referring to devolution. Thank you. That doesn't fill me with great


confidence that you don't know exactly what will be in the letter.


The think tank there must yesterday set out that Wales could be hardest


hit by the economic impact of Brexit and we face as you know a high risk


from any loss of exports and that is why continued participation in the


single market is so important. We also face a high risk from any loss


of EU funding. In terms of EU nationals, demos describes the


situation as low risk to Wales due to the relatively small numbers of


people here but we do know that those EU citizens who are here are


important to our public services and in particular the NHS. Those Demel


's findings explain exactly why... -- those Demos findings. What is


your assessment of a hard Brexit? The only issue different from


statements I have made in the past, the language that membership is


different from participation. What is clear to me is that last week the


UK Government itself didn't know exactly what the Article 50 letter


would look like. I advised the Prime Minister and I thought the shorter


the better would be best for Wales. We will see what the letter actually


looks like. In terms of EU citizens, there are still EU citizens who are


a concern -- who are concerned that they might be deep ported. It is not


a fear that is grounded in fact. -- might be deported. They saw what has


happened in the United States and they extrapolated those fears to


hear. It is critical to me that as soon as possible the issue of EU


citizens living across the European Union and UK citizens living in


other countries of the EU is resolved quickly to remove that


uncertainty. On the economy she and I are in the same place, access to


the single market, no imposition of tariffs, the ability to have full


access to the single market is crucial for economy like ours where


67% of exports go to the EU. I have no confidence in the UK Government's


ability to reflect our specific Welsh national interest and there


isn't any information you have given us this afternoon to give us any


more confidence. Wales can't afford to pay a high price for a hard


Brexit and we know we will have to defend our interests due to the


Article 15 negotiations but we also need to think about how we move the


debate forward to deal with the powers we need to mitigate those


economic risks. -- Article 50. We want to keep the value of current EU


funding in any replacement scheme but Plaid Cymru believes we need


more power in Wales to decide how that money is spent. We should be


able to use replacement funding to make Wales more attractive to


business and Plaid Cymru wants to see Wales in power so we can adapt


to the challenge of Brexit. We need much wider tax powers than those on


offer already. I have set out my demands to the UK Government on this


today. What Plaid Cymru sees as being in Wales's best interest. Can


you tell us what you intend to do as a Welsh government to get our


country into a position where it can survive an extreme Tory Brexit?


I am not as optimistic, probably the wrong word, that there will be any


money post 2020. All money to replace structural funds and I'm


increasingly convinced there would be money to replace farming


subsidies. We are hearing common agricultural policy is a problem.


That means farming subsidies could disappear. That is my greatest fear.


We know what that would mean for the economy overall in Wales. But she


will know in many occasions I have said that this process will only


work if all four nations agreed to the final settlement. I don't


believe it in any way possible to have a final settlement by March


2019, because it would have to be to make goodbye autumn next year. --


committed by autumn next year. They have to be agreed by the four


nations, and the UK Government. I think it's workable then, but my


greatest fear is this is not well understood. On Thursday, we will see


the white paper on the so-called great repeal bill. If it focuses


solely on preserving the existing European law, that sensible. But if


it strays into the territory of suggesting something like EU powers


coming back into Whitehall on a temporary basis then they'll be a


discussion about where they go, that would not be acceptable. Temporary


should mean temporary. We will see if the UK Government is serious


about working sure that the UK can work as a partnership. Leader of the


Welsh Conservatives, Andrew R.T. Davies. Yesterday we learned that


for health boards in Wales have a chronic deficit. The Welsh


Government have drawn a line in the sand and said they will not be


bailed out. The Health Secretary did say that no services will be lost


anywhere in Wales, because of a lack of money. Can you confirm that is


the case and that is was government policy? Yes. The health boards are


being told that they must keep within budget. They were told at the


beginning they must not harm services. We will look again at them


accounts in June and if further action needs to be taken, if they're


unable to deliver, then I shall look into it. It is in special measures


run by the Welsh Government, but you can must see if people rely on the


services. -- put money into services people rely on. When one of the


fourth health boards is projected to have a worse deficit next year, ?52


million as opposed to ?39 million. This a break even position last


year, that statement does not work. It's unbelievable, First Minister.


How are you going to be able to maintain services when four of the


six health boards have such a chronic deficit? And ultimately,


waiting times are constantly going up? 47. But he asked the question,


what will happen if they don't come within budget -- for all seven. If


they do not come into budget without harming services, we have to look


into the governance of that board. We will not start, the shy away of


that. Much like we went shy of dealing with Betsi Cadwaladr. I use


four of six because Powys health board does not have a General


Hospital in its area. The high-end of acute services, is in the


district General hospitals and closing to be the health boards that


deal clearly have a big deficit problem. As refused avatar way


health board -- Abertawe, we talk about government away judgments, and


the ballot sheet. I can hear from a position, I need to look across the


border, the deficit position of Welsh NHS is double what the English


NHS is facing. I don't discount the issues across the whole of the NHS


in the United Kingdom. Is not unreasonable people in those health


board areas trying to reconcile the statement that there will be no loss


of services, there will be no increase in waiting times, when


you've got to put such downward pressure on the budget without


additional money going in. So I do ask you again, what specific


measures to you believe that he will be able to take, you've identified


gene being a particular point, and government arrangements, to address


the thoughtful tonne shortfall. I'm not trying to belittle that point


but I'm trying to make a point that constituents and users of these


services are not unreasonably concerned because obviously, there


is a huge issue about how these deficits will be brought back into


control. Powys is a health board, and it buys in most of its services.


One can argue it's more difficult for powers because so few services


are provided in Powys because of its rural status. The message we have


given to them is you must manage this, you must make sure that you


cut in areas that are not providing services to the public, you do not


look at services provided the public and you come within budget. It is


their responsibility, that is why we have health board and they will have


to answer for their actions in a few months' time. We will look at the


national situation. TRANSLATION: On behalf of the Ukip


leader group. Diolch. My group leader asks me to pass on his


apologies as he is at a family funeral today. May I commend the


First Minister on his government's 13th of March response to the UK


Government's consultation paper. On the future of the Severn told. It is


well argued and reflects the view of this assembly on my motion to


support tolls on the bridge were following their return to the public


sector. One would hope there would be a greater degree of engagement


between the Welsh Government and the UK Government that merely filing her


consultation response, the silk commission propose close


coordination between the two governments on the future of the


Severn crossing. The Saint Davids Day agreement, whether UK Government


worked with the Welsh Government to determine its long future. And their


investment strategies says the Department for Transport will work


with the Welsh Assembly government to examine the future of the


crossings in more detail. Can the First Minister tell us how that


engagement is going? Officials are in discussions. Our position is that


we should take over the running of those bridges. And take control of


the tolls before we do that we would have do you have a robust


understanding of what the condition and cost of those two bridges are.


The figures we have vary wildly. They need to be nailed down, almost


literally. We understand what they are, and we should control the


tolls. I don't understand the resistance of the UK Government in


this. I don't understand why they feel that the bridge is, at the end


of the day, the main entrance to Wales should not be controlled from


Wales. I agree with the First Minister and wish him and his


officials well in pushing that position. The UK Government, I


believe, has three very serious legal risks if it seeks to continue


changing the agreement. One could be fatal to a plan. First the agreement


says Tolson sees it is fixed sum is raised. That would happen around the


end of next year. Second, we have under schedule five of the


government of Wales act, a list of devolved matters including 10.1, the


making operation and enforcement of schemes for imposing charges in


respect of the use of Welsh trunk roads. That, I believe, has led the


UK Government to propose turning over the English half of the bridge,


because that supersedes the charging authority. They would need to


enforce that all essentially at a plaza in Wales, counter to the


government of Wales act. Thirdly, they have a further problem is that


the transport act 2000, which they are now planning to use, says that a


trunk road charging scheme could only be made in respect of a road if


the road is carried by a bridge through a tunnel. It doesn't provide


charging for part of a road carried by a bridge. And the use of the full


phrase passes through a tunnel implies by analogy going from one


side of the river to the other. So if all those reasons, can the First


Minister consider what more he or his government might do to emphasise


the UK Government at the very least legal risks they run if they do seek


to impose charges in future without an agreement. The member has raised


these issues before. We looked at them. It appears because of the


nature of the governments of the Severn Bridge, they are reserved, it


does not mean it will be raised further, I will do that work to him.


The tolls on the old bridge on the other side and the tolls on the


Newbridge are on the wild side. We prefer it if there no tools at all


on either side. And we can maintain the bridges. The legal


correspondence has changed. The focus was the UK Government could do


it because the charging authority because the UK Government isn't


seeking to enforce our side of the road. There are difficulties in


doing that and later act, there are three different arguments. Anyone of


what would be fatal to the UK Government's position. They will


either use the current toll passed despite our government saying it's


our right to force it in Wales, all looking in to investigate free flow


charged, a lot of capital without legal certainty that someone goes


and doesn't pay. They chase them for the debt and go to court, and unless


they know with certainty that that causes going to say yes, that is a


valid charge, it is very difficult for them to a invest in that scheme.


The frustration I have there is a fixed sum of the UK Government, that


which would be raised within a year or so. Continued polling. --


tolling. Much of that is the operation of the tolls itself that


we are looking at a sum of around half that. Walter is not an ideal


scenario, with the First Minister consider that it might be better


than nothing if tolling could continue for just a gear and then we


could make a modest contribution perhaps two or 3 million to the


telling cost, does he think that the BA deal worth having to get rid of


those tolls, and will he work with parties across the chamber to agree


with that? We wouldn't do anything that is not devolved. It it's not


devolved, it's a matter for the UK get government to deal with. It


strikes me that, he suggested a way forward, but the easy way in my mind


is to have no tolls at all. In intermittent periods, to have


electronic tolling, that is investment, and the issue for us


that the faster the traffic goes to the bridges, the faster it adds to


congestion at those terminals. That is a fact we are aware of. He will


note the proposals the government have made in terms of that. To me,


this is a simple issue that doesn't need to be made complex. We'd have


an understanding of what the condition of the two bridges


actually is. We don't know that. I've seen figures well beyond the


figure he suggested in terms of maintenance and upkeep. That needs


to be robust, first of all. Then we'll have a understanding of what


it is. For us the government, we would like to the tolls, and we need


to understand what we are taking. Question three. Will the First


Minister make a statement on Welsh Government decisions for social


care? We have made a decision on ?55 million on social services for 27 to


18. That includes the 20 million for social care yesterday. We have also


provided for social care. I'm sure everyone will welcome the 2 billion


announcement for social care in England. That gives the Welsh


Government an opportunity to add to its own money that you mentioned


today. There is money now available for social care, which will all be


grateful for. What will you say to Bridgend County Borough Council


which has taken ?2.2 million of social care money out of next year's


budget. We need a Labour government in London. That will provide the


funding for social care. And sure that will happen many times over the


Lynne Neagle. Thank you the meeting me last month to talk about the


family fund money in the social services fund and its effect on


disabled children and their families.


Given your assurances to me in that meeting and that these are some of


our lowest income families who in my experience have to fight everything


in their lives, will you look at allocating some of this additional


money to disabled children and their families? She has been passionate in


her advocacy for this cause, she has asked me to see whether money has


been made available, I will look at that for her. Not all of the money


has been allocated, we have to look at what will happen in the financial


year beyond this year and the one he and that but I will look at that for


her. -- and the one beyond that. TRANSLATION: The efficiency and what


we can achieve from social service funding depends on the NHS and what


happens in it. I think it is the fault of the government for not


supporting the NHS which is responsible for this overflow. Does


he agree with my concern that forcing them to balance their books


overnight would inevitably lead to more pressure on the social sector?


The health board had three-year is to consider their budget, that is


why the law changed in this place because they would then have to


consider their budgets over a period of a year and now they have


three-year is and it is easier for them to balance their books in that


regard so we do expect them, as they have been given that freedom, to


ensure they are responsible and can remain within their budgets. Both


Conservative and Labour governments in Westminster and successive


Labour, Plaid Cymru and Lib Dem coalition is here in Wales have


failed to allow for sufficient funding for social care. As a result


of decades of underfunding we are approaching a crisis point in social


care and despite the fact that our population is ageing fast neither


you nor the Tories seem to have any plans to address chronic long-term


shortages. Your government has announced additional funding for


social care but this simply replaces lost funding. It does nothing to


address future demand. How does your government plan to address the


long-term funding shortfall and make sure that future social care needs


are met? If she looks at the social services in Wales act she will see


that we are committed to investing in the system, we know that spending


on social services per head in Wales is 6% higher than in England. We


have put in the investment. On top of that it is important to remember


the ?60 million intermediate care fund. Delayed care in February was


22% down on the previous year. How is the Welsh government working to


ensure that emotional resilience is improved in children and young


people? We are working to improve the well-being of children and young


people and helping them to improving emotional resilience. You will be


aware of my recent short debate on ensuring that resilience is


developed long before young people need specialist help. This is linked


to ongoing work on the government is doing. As you have highlighted, the


Cabinet Secretary for health is responsible for the... It raises


questions for me as to how this work is being taken forward in a joined


up way across government. Will you personally look at this issue and


commit to ensuring that the work to deliver on Together For Children And


Young People is taken forward with urgency across government?


Discussions have been held between the Cabinet Secretary is for


education and health on how the joint work can be improved. This is


not the sole responsibility of one minister, I understand that. We know


that in working on an across portfolio basis we can get the best


results. We recognise that health education of much linked and


officials have been instructed to work together to consider different


approaches to support the mental health and well-being of our


children and young people. One thing which can be done is to develop more


mindfulness practice in schools. The Cabinet Secretary for education


visited a school in Colwyn Bay late last year when she met some of the


children and staff that had been practising mindfulness and they


spoke passionately about the impact it had in helping them to deal with


what can be difficult situations whether in school or at home. I


wonder what the Welsh government is doing to look at mindfulness and


whether this can be introduced more widely into the education sector. It


is something we are considering actively as something we discussed


at length before the election last year. There is no greater advocate


for mindfulness than the Cabinet Secretary for economy. I wasn't sure


what it was but I am fully informed now. It is hugely important that we


consider new to help young people to deal with pressures that didn't


exist when I was that age, the pressures of social media. When you


went home, that was it, you wide followed around online with the


bullying that that can sometimes lead to and the pressure to conform.


-- you were not followed. New approaches need to be used to deal


with new problems. TRANSLATION: Will he outlined the Welsh government's


transport priorities for Pembrokeshire in the next 12 months?


The National Trust or finance plan published in July 2015 sets out the


investment on transport and infrastructure in all parts of Wales


the 2015-2016. The National Trust or finance plan the Welsh government


highlights only one project the Pembrokeshire in the next 12 months,


the proposal to turn the Aseven 477 into a trunk road. Will you agree


with me that in light of these important economic development is it


is time for governments to cooperate to turn the A40 into a dual


carriageway to make the most of these proposals in West Wales? First


of all it is true to say that the project mentioned is crucially


important. It is possible to consider the city deal to take new


projects in terms of transport into account. We can certainly consider


that. Thirdly, in taking over the franchise next year, it will be very


important to ensure that the rail service is also improved in


Pembrokeshire and to link Pembrokeshire with the rest of Wales


and the rest of the UK. Ports are in important part of transport in


Pembrokeshire and particularly the link between Wales and Ireland. With


Brexit happening this week I am concerned that we will see less


transport in terms of goods carried between Britain and Ireland and also


in terms of passengers, with lots of talk about developing more direct


links between France and the Republic of Ireland in order to


avoid Britain once we have left the EU. That will undermine Pembroke


Dock so what steps are you taking to ensure that we keep transport


between the ports of Pembrokeshire? I have raised this number of times


with the Westminster government and with the Irish government and I


discussed it with the Taoiseach when he was here on the tenth March. My


concern is that if it is easier to go through Northern Ireland that is


where goods will go. If there is more paperwork that has to be filled


in going through Holyhead, Pembroke Dock and Fishguard, if there is any


official order in Wales but nothing of that kind in Northern Ireland


then goods will go through Liverpool and the links that have -- the ports


that have links with Northern Ireland. The Republic of Ireland


understands this will have an impact on Dublin and other ports. It is


crucially important that the arrangements in border crossing are


the same between Wales and the Republic of Ireland as between the


Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. Will he provide an update


on the new treatment... All health boards have received updates on


their funding and the Cabinet Secretary will update before the


summary says. -- summer recess. This demonstrates the Welsh government's


commitment to delivering on the 2016 election pledge and I understand


that new fund will Expedia eight -- will expedite access to new


medicines for a host of illnesses, no doubt helping countless


individuals with life-threatening else's right here in Wales. --


illnesses. I understand that it is extremely early days but can I


request that we receive regular updates on progress within the


access to the new treatment fund and any figures that could be attached


to that? I am sure that can be done. In January 2015 medicines


recommended by NICE have been made available to patients and in the


first two months this has already made a palpable Air France. --


difference. Can you give us an overview of what monitoring is in


place to ensure the funds that have gone to the health boards for this


very where -- worthy initiative are being spent on just this initiative?


There is full monitoring on that and we will see the results of that


through the process is already made available. What discussions he has


the Welsh government had with Cardiff Council regarding the


provision of a new bus station in the city? This is ultimately a


matter for Cardiff Council. I met with the counsellor and we discussed


the latest updates on that the element. -- that development. I


understand it is a matter principally for the council but the


bus station is an issue of growing concern to South Wales residents.


There have been fears that the facility may be too small and fears


over the funding now as well. We don't yet know if there will be


coach bays at the new station, none of which really helps with the


government providing day-to-day integrated transport. As Cardiff is


such an important hub for the region, can the Welsh government


make any intervention to make sure that passengers do end up with a


first-class facility rather than a botched job? There was a time when


Cardiff Council doubted whether there needed to be a bus stop at


all. -- bus station. It is hugely important to have an interchange and


a hub. The need for a new station is clear to me, it needs to be fit for


purpose, future proof, successfully integrated. The project has been led


by a company that has monthly meetings with key stakeholders


including us. I understand that planning permission has been


approved but the start date has been delayed as discussions take place on


what the station should look like. There is agreement that the station


should be fit for purpose as the main interchange of a capital city.


Following the triggering of Article 50 this week, what discussions does


the First Minister intent to have with the UK Government and the


establishment of a UK single market? The answer is on the many. I have


had discussions already, we continue to hold them. -- the answer is,


many. I think we should continue with an internal single market


within the UK, there should be a rules -based system, those rules


should be agreed by all four governments and there should be an


independent adjudicator, a trade court if you like, to police those


rules. If all of those requirements are satisfied the single market


could be robust. Other people have referred to the


Dem 's report saying... We have seen by the recent accidents by Tories


are made that the party has broken promises. David Davies, has said, he


wants to see the same benefits we have with the single market and


Customs union to be maintained after we leave the EU. How realistic is


the First Minister think that is? In the light of the fact that the Prime


Minister of Malta has said that of necessity, our relationship needs to


be inferior to that we currently enjoy? It's possible to do it by


four example remaining in the EU. They don't want to pay into a budget


pot, but if you want to be in a club you have to pay the fee. I think the


UK will be offered a model that I don't think the UK will be offered a


specific model. I don't believe there is a majority of people in


this majority who want to see a Brexit that is so hard that tariffs


will be put impose, there will be unnecessary restrictions of new,


movements. What we don't know is that what they believe the terms


would be. To my mind, it is perfectly possible to leave the EU


and yet still have full access to the single market. Question nine,


David Melding. What is the Welsh Government doing


to actively promote female mentorship programmes


in the workplace? We provide a programme to maximise


the contribution women make to the economy. I think we all remember


with deep affection, Dame Rosemary Butler, our former Bravo try


Presiding Officer, and herb programme to fix her programme to


increase women in public life. It was increasing ambition in women who


already have the talent to perform outstandingly in the workplace.


Quality is an important part of this. The exact equality. There are


other tools at our disposal as well, it was commissioned by the Chief


scientific adviser, dealing with the long-term problems of women in


science, and the Minister Julie James accepted the statement in


January. Those are two examples among many of the work being done to


achieve two, the true equality in our society. Finally, question ten.


Will the First Minister consider reopening


inpatient perinatal mental health facilities?


That is a decision for the health boards and committees. We are


investing money for community specialist perinatal mental health


service. I hope he has the opportunity to hear from mothers in


Wales who have had the courage to speak out about their individual


experience at Charlotte Harding from Cardiff whose husband took two years


off from work to care for her and her two boys after developing


postpartum psychosis. The own criteria in this country is based


on... They are failing the government's own criteria. It costs


more to send Welsh mothers to inpatient centres in England than it


would have two keep the facilities open in Wales and we know the


provision is patchy. Politics aside, can I plead with the First Minister


to put as a matter of urgency this issue to the top of the agenda, so


mothers in Wales do not face the joys of being separated from a


newborn baby or their families or or not have the mental health


facilities in their own country. In the last few years less than five


women have been admitted to inpatient in Wales. The problem then


of course is you cannot run a specialist unit on those numbers. No


accredited body will allow this. It can't be a specialist unit with


those numbers. I agree with him about the condition and not


separating mothers and babies which is why we go the extra funding into


community-based Perak perinatal funding. Focusing on the individual


rather than the hospital, making sure they have community care,


rather than using a badly used service and a problem of it


continuing to be a unit. That was First Minister's Questions this


afternoon. For more coverage, go online to BBC world's Senedd page.


-- BBC Wales's Senedd web page. You can watch more at 6:30pm on BBC


Wales. And at 9pm on S foresee. First Minister's Questions is back


next week. Thank you for watching. I think I've died and gone to


heaven. Saluti. Chin-chin. So, can anybody speak Italian?


No. Non parlo italiano. Can ten Brits looking for


a new life start again?


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