28/03/2017 First Minister's Questions


28/03/2017

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Good afternoon and welcome to the programme, our weekly coverage of

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questions to the First Minister. Carwyn Jones expects questions and

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public transport, jobs for Newport and the funding of social care. Away

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from the chamber, you can follow Welsh politics and our Twitter feed.

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Business in the Assembly has started so let's cross to questions from the

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First Minister -- for the First Minister.

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TRANSLATION: The first item on the agenda is questions to the First

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Minister. Will the First Minister make a statement on public transport

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provision in south-east Wales. The plan sets out the measures we are

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taking to make sure the south-east is connected by effective, modern

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and fully into -- fully integrated public transport. The decision and

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the awarding of the new Welsh border franchise is critically important

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for south-east Wales and for the Wales Metro. You mentioned at the

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end of your answer the importance of integration. Will you update us on

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the process of awarding the franchise, given that the metro map

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includes bus and train routes? What are you doing to make sure that the

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independency of those two is insured in the new franchise? The franchise

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is going well but I wouldn't expect to cross railway services with bus

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services. Next year the government and the Assembly will have the

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opportunity to integrate bus and rail services given the fact that

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control will rest in the same place. It has been five years since the

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report making a case for a step change in public transport was

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published. A colour matter and rail costs about the same as on a

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motorway but carries eight to 20 more people, so I wonder what the

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government has done to deal with the congestion we currently have on the

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Mfor east of Cardiff. That road is affected by many problems. -- the

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M4. The Metro will improve and upgrade the existing lines and the

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next phases will include light rail but that is some years away. The

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initial focus will be on heavy rail lines that exists but there are

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significant opportunities for modal shift via the metro in years to

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come. Last Thursday morning the leaders of Bridgend Council and

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another council gave a statement on the advantage of the metro. They

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argued that it needs to connect across the northern valleys and not

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just strengthen links to and from Cardiff. Will the First Minister

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agree and commit to ensuring this happens? The metro is not a greater

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Cardiff transports six -- system. The fact that it will be based in

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Pontypridd gives an example of our commitment to valleys communities.

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Many people commute from one valley to another. The railway lines once

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connected those areas but they are long gone so we need to look at how

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we can upgrade bus services to provide those connections. In stand

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up no-op on Saturday at the Welsh Labour conference. -- inland at no.

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Every train on the Wales and border line will have a roll-out of free

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Wi-Fi, starting with 50 of the busiest stations in Wales, and a 12

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month pilot a free weekend travel. Isn't this further evidence that the

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Welsh Labour government is on the side of commuters and what further

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action can improve public transport in my constituency and in Wales? I

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thank her for grinding me of what I said at the weekend. It is a

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commitment that we make to commuters, the fact that we are

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upgrading the Metro, we are committed to the north-east Metro,

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we are looking at upgrading trains, the fact that when powers come to us

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we will look to upgrading the bus system, and we will do things to

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make it easier and more comfortable to travel by rail and bus in the

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future. TRANSLATION: What discussions has the Welsh government

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held with Newsquest regarding public money used to establish the

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company's sub editing Centre in Newport? We are in ongoing

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discussions with Newsquest regarding its ongoing and planned

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redundancies. Officials have received assurances and current

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staffing levels and we will use this to determine whether the conditions

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of the grant have been breached. Will you therefore confirm that you

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will actually try to recoup every penny if the full terms and

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conditions have been breached and will you reconsider the way you do

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support the local press? This is an NUJ campaign in terms of local news

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matters. Wouldn't it be more appropriate for the Welsh government

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to establish an independent fund for Independent news so that all

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companies could be brought into that to support Welsh and English

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language journalism? It is right that we should pursue every penny.

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If terms and conditions were breached. Secondly, with the fund,

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we are going to establish an independent forum for the media to

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consider the challenges over the ensuring years and see which way we

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have strong and robust local media. -- in assuming years. The staff at

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Newsquest are very worried. Along with the trade union I have spoken

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to staff, who estimate there will be less than ten fewer full-time roles

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at the end of the process and that full-time high skilled jobs will be

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replaced by more part-time administrative roles. Newsquest say

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they employ approximately 60 staff in Newport and support editorial and

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publishing teams across the organisation. Does the Welsh

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government know how the figure of 60 staff equates to full-time roles in

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Newport and what assurances have you received to ensure that Newsquest

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continues to meet their obligations to their staff and the government?

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We are aware of 14 planned redundancies. In 2015 we provide

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money to Newsquest towards the creation and safeguarding of jobs.

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That award was conditional on the jobs being replaced in May 20 20.

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The operation has exceeded that target for job creation so far but

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it is important that they honour that, if they don't we will pull the

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money back. I asked the same question last week regarding the sub

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editing Centre in Newport. You confirms that the grant of the money

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in May 2015 was in -- on condition of jobs being in place until May of

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2020. It now appears that the staff in Newport were placed at risk of

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redundancy. Can I ask whether the Welsh government was aware of these

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redundancies and if so what representations were made to the

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company at that time to remind them of the condition attached to the

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award of grant funding from this Assembly? As I said, the conditions

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of the grant have been met thus far but they have to be met until May of

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2020 otherwise we will seek to recoup the money. As far as

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officials are concerned, there have been discussions for some time with

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Newsquest. As customary in these situations we look to see what help

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we can offer but let it be very clear that if the conditions of the

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grant are not met then we will take action to recoup the money. I know

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that many of the journalists working at the sub editing in Newport were

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from Cardiff, having already been made redundant by Trinity Mirror,

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which has also seen wave after wave of job losses. What more can the

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Welsh government do to stop large private companies which run local

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news titles decimating the industry further and does he know of any

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funding available for journalists who may want to set up local news

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websites? Officials have provided information on services available to

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redundant workers. Business Wales is available in order to look at the

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kind of financial help that has been mentioned, but there is no doubt

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that many of us fear that we will see a steady diminishing of local

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and national news coverage across Wales, which is why the independent

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media Forum is being set up and one of their objectives will be to look

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at ways of making sure that people are properly informed and not

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misled. Tomorrow the UK Government will trigger Article 50, beginning

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the process by which the UK, or at least some parts of it, will leave

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the European Union. You have previously said that you expect to

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be consulted prior to Article 50 night and being made. Can you tell

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us what consultation has taken place and what you expect to see in the

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Article 50 letter? We discussed this at length last week when I met with

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the Prime Minister and David Davis. It was unclear then on the part of

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the UK Government whether it would be a short or a longer letter out

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loud in -- outlining the entire case but it seems to me that what will

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happen is that the letter will simply be sent explaining what the

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UK is planning to do. I don't expect there to be anything in the letter

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referring to devolution. Thank you. That doesn't fill me with great

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confidence that you don't know exactly what will be in the letter.

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The think tank there must yesterday set out that Wales could be hardest

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hit by the economic impact of Brexit and we face as you know a high risk

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from any loss of exports and that is why continued participation in the

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single market is so important. We also face a high risk from any loss

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of EU funding. In terms of EU nationals, demos describes the

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situation as low risk to Wales due to the relatively small numbers of

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people here but we do know that those EU citizens who are here are

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important to our public services and in particular the NHS. Those Demel

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's findings explain exactly why... -- those Demos findings. What is

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your assessment of a hard Brexit? The only issue different from

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statements I have made in the past, the language that membership is

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different from participation. What is clear to me is that last week the

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UK Government itself didn't know exactly what the Article 50 letter

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would look like. I advised the Prime Minister and I thought the shorter

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the better would be best for Wales. We will see what the letter actually

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looks like. In terms of EU citizens, there are still EU citizens who are

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a concern -- who are concerned that they might be deep ported. It is not

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a fear that is grounded in fact. -- might be deported. They saw what has

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happened in the United States and they extrapolated those fears to

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hear. It is critical to me that as soon as possible the issue of EU

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citizens living across the European Union and UK citizens living in

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other countries of the EU is resolved quickly to remove that

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uncertainty. On the economy she and I are in the same place, access to

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the single market, no imposition of tariffs, the ability to have full

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access to the single market is crucial for economy like ours where

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67% of exports go to the EU. I have no confidence in the UK Government's

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ability to reflect our specific Welsh national interest and there

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isn't any information you have given us this afternoon to give us any

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more confidence. Wales can't afford to pay a high price for a hard

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Brexit and we know we will have to defend our interests due to the

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Article 15 negotiations but we also need to think about how we move the

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debate forward to deal with the powers we need to mitigate those

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economic risks. -- Article 50. We want to keep the value of current EU

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funding in any replacement scheme but Plaid Cymru believes we need

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more power in Wales to decide how that money is spent. We should be

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able to use replacement funding to make Wales more attractive to

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business and Plaid Cymru wants to see Wales in power so we can adapt

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to the challenge of Brexit. We need much wider tax powers than those on

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offer already. I have set out my demands to the UK Government on this

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today. What Plaid Cymru sees as being in Wales's best interest. Can

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you tell us what you intend to do as a Welsh government to get our

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country into a position where it can survive an extreme Tory Brexit?

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I am not as optimistic, probably the wrong word, that there will be any

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money post 2020. All money to replace structural funds and I'm

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increasingly convinced there would be money to replace farming

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subsidies. We are hearing common agricultural policy is a problem.

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That means farming subsidies could disappear. That is my greatest fear.

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We know what that would mean for the economy overall in Wales. But she

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will know in many occasions I have said that this process will only

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work if all four nations agreed to the final settlement. I don't

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believe it in any way possible to have a final settlement by March

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2019, because it would have to be to make goodbye autumn next year. --

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committed by autumn next year. They have to be agreed by the four

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nations, and the UK Government. I think it's workable then, but my

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greatest fear is this is not well understood. On Thursday, we will see

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the white paper on the so-called great repeal bill. If it focuses

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solely on preserving the existing European law, that sensible. But if

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it strays into the territory of suggesting something like EU powers

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coming back into Whitehall on a temporary basis then they'll be a

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discussion about where they go, that would not be acceptable. Temporary

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should mean temporary. We will see if the UK Government is serious

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about working sure that the UK can work as a partnership. Leader of the

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Welsh Conservatives, Andrew R.T. Davies. Yesterday we learned that

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for health boards in Wales have a chronic deficit. The Welsh

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Government have drawn a line in the sand and said they will not be

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bailed out. The Health Secretary did say that no services will be lost

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anywhere in Wales, because of a lack of money. Can you confirm that is

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the case and that is was government policy? Yes. The health boards are

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being told that they must keep within budget. They were told at the

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beginning they must not harm services. We will look again at them

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accounts in June and if further action needs to be taken, if they're

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unable to deliver, then I shall look into it. It is in special measures

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run by the Welsh Government, but you can must see if people rely on the

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services. -- put money into services people rely on. When one of the

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fourth health boards is projected to have a worse deficit next year, ?52

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million as opposed to ?39 million. This a break even position last

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year, that statement does not work. It's unbelievable, First Minister.

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How are you going to be able to maintain services when four of the

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six health boards have such a chronic deficit? And ultimately,

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waiting times are constantly going up? 47. But he asked the question,

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what will happen if they don't come within budget -- for all seven. If

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they do not come into budget without harming services, we have to look

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into the governance of that board. We will not start, the shy away of

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that. Much like we went shy of dealing with Betsi Cadwaladr. I use

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four of six because Powys health board does not have a General

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Hospital in its area. The high-end of acute services, is in the

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district General hospitals and closing to be the health boards that

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deal clearly have a big deficit problem. As refused avatar way

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health board -- Abertawe, we talk about government away judgments, and

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the ballot sheet. I can hear from a position, I need to look across the

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border, the deficit position of Welsh NHS is double what the English

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NHS is facing. I don't discount the issues across the whole of the NHS

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in the United Kingdom. Is not unreasonable people in those health

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board areas trying to reconcile the statement that there will be no loss

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of services, there will be no increase in waiting times, when

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you've got to put such downward pressure on the budget without

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additional money going in. So I do ask you again, what specific

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measures to you believe that he will be able to take, you've identified

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gene being a particular point, and government arrangements, to address

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the thoughtful tonne shortfall. I'm not trying to belittle that point

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but I'm trying to make a point that constituents and users of these

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services are not unreasonably concerned because obviously, there

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is a huge issue about how these deficits will be brought back into

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control. Powys is a health board, and it buys in most of its services.

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One can argue it's more difficult for powers because so few services

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are provided in Powys because of its rural status. The message we have

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given to them is you must manage this, you must make sure that you

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cut in areas that are not providing services to the public, you do not

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look at services provided the public and you come within budget. It is

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their responsibility, that is why we have health board and they will have

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to answer for their actions in a few months' time. We will look at the

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national situation. TRANSLATION: On behalf of the Ukip

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leader group. Diolch. My group leader asks me to pass on his

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apologies as he is at a family funeral today. May I commend the

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First Minister on his government's 13th of March response to the UK

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Government's consultation paper. On the future of the Severn told. It is

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well argued and reflects the view of this assembly on my motion to

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support tolls on the bridge were following their return to the public

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sector. One would hope there would be a greater degree of engagement

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between the Welsh Government and the UK Government that merely filing her

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consultation response, the silk commission propose close

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coordination between the two governments on the future of the

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Severn crossing. The Saint Davids Day agreement, whether UK Government

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worked with the Welsh Government to determine its long future. And their

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investment strategies says the Department for Transport will work

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with the Welsh Assembly government to examine the future of the

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crossings in more detail. Can the First Minister tell us how that

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engagement is going? Officials are in discussions. Our position is that

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we should take over the running of those bridges. And take control of

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the tolls before we do that we would have do you have a robust

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understanding of what the condition and cost of those two bridges are.

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The figures we have vary wildly. They need to be nailed down, almost

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literally. We understand what they are, and we should control the

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tolls. I don't understand the resistance of the UK Government in

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this. I don't understand why they feel that the bridge is, at the end

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of the day, the main entrance to Wales should not be controlled from

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Wales. I agree with the First Minister and wish him and his

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officials well in pushing that position. The UK Government, I

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believe, has three very serious legal risks if it seeks to continue

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changing the agreement. One could be fatal to a plan. First the agreement

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says Tolson sees it is fixed sum is raised. That would happen around the

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end of next year. Second, we have under schedule five of the

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government of Wales act, a list of devolved matters including 10.1, the

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making operation and enforcement of schemes for imposing charges in

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respect of the use of Welsh trunk roads. That, I believe, has led the

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UK Government to propose turning over the English half of the bridge,

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because that supersedes the charging authority. They would need to

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enforce that all essentially at a plaza in Wales, counter to the

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government of Wales act. Thirdly, they have a further problem is that

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the transport act 2000, which they are now planning to use, says that a

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trunk road charging scheme could only be made in respect of a road if

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the road is carried by a bridge through a tunnel. It doesn't provide

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charging for part of a road carried by a bridge. And the use of the full

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phrase passes through a tunnel implies by analogy going from one

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side of the river to the other. So if all those reasons, can the First

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Minister consider what more he or his government might do to emphasise

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the UK Government at the very least legal risks they run if they do seek

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to impose charges in future without an agreement. The member has raised

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these issues before. We looked at them. It appears because of the

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nature of the governments of the Severn Bridge, they are reserved, it

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does not mean it will be raised further, I will do that work to him.

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The tolls on the old bridge on the other side and the tolls on the

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Newbridge are on the wild side. We prefer it if there no tools at all

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on either side. And we can maintain the bridges. The legal

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correspondence has changed. The focus was the UK Government could do

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it because the charging authority because the UK Government isn't

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seeking to enforce our side of the road. There are difficulties in

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doing that and later act, there are three different arguments. Anyone of

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what would be fatal to the UK Government's position. They will

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either use the current toll passed despite our government saying it's

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our right to force it in Wales, all looking in to investigate free flow

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charged, a lot of capital without legal certainty that someone goes

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and doesn't pay. They chase them for the debt and go to court, and unless

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they know with certainty that that causes going to say yes, that is a

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valid charge, it is very difficult for them to a invest in that scheme.

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The frustration I have there is a fixed sum of the UK Government, that

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which would be raised within a year or so. Continued polling. --

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tolling. Much of that is the operation of the tolls itself that

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we are looking at a sum of around half that. Walter is not an ideal

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scenario, with the First Minister consider that it might be better

:27:50.:27:53.

than nothing if tolling could continue for just a gear and then we

:27:54.:27:58.

could make a modest contribution perhaps two or 3 million to the

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telling cost, does he think that the BA deal worth having to get rid of

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those tolls, and will he work with parties across the chamber to agree

:28:08.:28:14.

with that? We wouldn't do anything that is not devolved. It it's not

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devolved, it's a matter for the UK get government to deal with. It

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strikes me that, he suggested a way forward, but the easy way in my mind

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is to have no tolls at all. In intermittent periods, to have

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electronic tolling, that is investment, and the issue for us

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that the faster the traffic goes to the bridges, the faster it adds to

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congestion at those terminals. That is a fact we are aware of. He will

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note the proposals the government have made in terms of that. To me,

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this is a simple issue that doesn't need to be made complex. We'd have

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an understanding of what the condition of the two bridges

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actually is. We don't know that. I've seen figures well beyond the

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figure he suggested in terms of maintenance and upkeep. That needs

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to be robust, first of all. Then we'll have a understanding of what

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it is. For us the government, we would like to the tolls, and we need

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to understand what we are taking. Question three. Will the First

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Minister make a statement on Welsh Government decisions for social

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care? We have made a decision on ?55 million on social services for 27 to

:29:38.:29:41.

18. That includes the 20 million for social care yesterday. We have also

:29:42.:29:49.

provided for social care. I'm sure everyone will welcome the 2 billion

:29:50.:29:53.

announcement for social care in England. That gives the Welsh

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Government an opportunity to add to its own money that you mentioned

:30:00.:30:04.

today. There is money now available for social care, which will all be

:30:05.:30:09.

grateful for. What will you say to Bridgend County Borough Council

:30:10.:30:13.

which has taken ?2.2 million of social care money out of next year's

:30:14.:30:17.

budget. We need a Labour government in London. That will provide the

:30:18.:30:23.

funding for social care. And sure that will happen many times over the

:30:24.:30:29.

Lynne Neagle. Thank you the meeting me last month to talk about the

:30:30.:30:41.

family fund money in the social services fund and its effect on

:30:42.:30:43.

disabled children and their families.

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Given your assurances to me in that meeting and that these are some of

:30:52.:30:58.

our lowest income families who in my experience have to fight everything

:30:59.:31:02.

in their lives, will you look at allocating some of this additional

:31:03.:31:07.

money to disabled children and their families? She has been passionate in

:31:08.:31:10.

her advocacy for this cause, she has asked me to see whether money has

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been made available, I will look at that for her. Not all of the money

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has been allocated, we have to look at what will happen in the financial

:31:24.:31:26.

year beyond this year and the one he and that but I will look at that for

:31:27.:31:37.

her. -- and the one beyond that. TRANSLATION: The efficiency and what

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we can achieve from social service funding depends on the NHS and what

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happens in it. I think it is the fault of the government for not

:31:49.:31:58.

supporting the NHS which is responsible for this overflow. Does

:31:59.:32:05.

he agree with my concern that forcing them to balance their books

:32:06.:32:10.

overnight would inevitably lead to more pressure on the social sector?

:32:11.:32:16.

The health board had three-year is to consider their budget, that is

:32:17.:32:20.

why the law changed in this place because they would then have to

:32:21.:32:23.

consider their budgets over a period of a year and now they have

:32:24.:32:28.

three-year is and it is easier for them to balance their books in that

:32:29.:32:31.

regard so we do expect them, as they have been given that freedom, to

:32:32.:32:35.

ensure they are responsible and can remain within their budgets. Both

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Conservative and Labour governments in Westminster and successive

:32:45.:32:48.

Labour, Plaid Cymru and Lib Dem coalition is here in Wales have

:32:49.:32:52.

failed to allow for sufficient funding for social care. As a result

:32:53.:32:57.

of decades of underfunding we are approaching a crisis point in social

:32:58.:33:04.

care and despite the fact that our population is ageing fast neither

:33:05.:33:08.

you nor the Tories seem to have any plans to address chronic long-term

:33:09.:33:12.

shortages. Your government has announced additional funding for

:33:13.:33:16.

social care but this simply replaces lost funding. It does nothing to

:33:17.:33:21.

address future demand. How does your government plan to address the

:33:22.:33:26.

long-term funding shortfall and make sure that future social care needs

:33:27.:33:32.

are met? If she looks at the social services in Wales act she will see

:33:33.:33:37.

that we are committed to investing in the system, we know that spending

:33:38.:33:44.

on social services per head in Wales is 6% higher than in England. We

:33:45.:33:51.

have put in the investment. On top of that it is important to remember

:33:52.:33:57.

the ?60 million intermediate care fund. Delayed care in February was

:33:58.:34:20.

22% down on the previous year. How is the Welsh government working to

:34:21.:34:25.

ensure that emotional resilience is improved in children and young

:34:26.:34:30.

people? We are working to improve the well-being of children and young

:34:31.:34:33.

people and helping them to improving emotional resilience. You will be

:34:34.:34:40.

aware of my recent short debate on ensuring that resilience is

:34:41.:34:46.

developed long before young people need specialist help. This is linked

:34:47.:34:55.

to ongoing work on the government is doing. As you have highlighted, the

:34:56.:34:59.

Cabinet Secretary for health is responsible for the... It raises

:35:00.:35:13.

questions for me as to how this work is being taken forward in a joined

:35:14.:35:16.

up way across government. Will you personally look at this issue and

:35:17.:35:24.

commit to ensuring that the work to deliver on Together For Children And

:35:25.:35:29.

Young People is taken forward with urgency across government?

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Discussions have been held between the Cabinet Secretary is for

:35:35.:35:39.

education and health on how the joint work can be improved. This is

:35:40.:35:42.

not the sole responsibility of one minister, I understand that. We know

:35:43.:35:49.

that in working on an across portfolio basis we can get the best

:35:50.:35:54.

results. We recognise that health education of much linked and

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officials have been instructed to work together to consider different

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approaches to support the mental health and well-being of our

:36:03.:36:08.

children and young people. One thing which can be done is to develop more

:36:09.:36:13.

mindfulness practice in schools. The Cabinet Secretary for education

:36:14.:36:20.

visited a school in Colwyn Bay late last year when she met some of the

:36:21.:36:24.

children and staff that had been practising mindfulness and they

:36:25.:36:30.

spoke passionately about the impact it had in helping them to deal with

:36:31.:36:33.

what can be difficult situations whether in school or at home. I

:36:34.:36:39.

wonder what the Welsh government is doing to look at mindfulness and

:36:40.:36:42.

whether this can be introduced more widely into the education sector. It

:36:43.:36:46.

is something we are considering actively as something we discussed

:36:47.:36:49.

at length before the election last year. There is no greater advocate

:36:50.:36:57.

for mindfulness than the Cabinet Secretary for economy. I wasn't sure

:36:58.:37:01.

what it was but I am fully informed now. It is hugely important that we

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consider new to help young people to deal with pressures that didn't

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exist when I was that age, the pressures of social media. When you

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went home, that was it, you wide followed around online with the

:37:14.:37:19.

bullying that that can sometimes lead to and the pressure to conform.

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-- you were not followed. New approaches need to be used to deal

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with new problems. TRANSLATION: Will he outlined the Welsh government's

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transport priorities for Pembrokeshire in the next 12 months?

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The National Trust or finance plan published in July 2015 sets out the

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investment on transport and infrastructure in all parts of Wales

:37:50.:37:56.

the 2015-2016. The National Trust or finance plan the Welsh government

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highlights only one project the Pembrokeshire in the next 12 months,

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the proposal to turn the Aseven 477 into a trunk road. Will you agree

:38:11.:38:19.

with me that in light of these important economic development is it

:38:20.:38:22.

is time for governments to cooperate to turn the A40 into a dual

:38:23.:38:29.

carriageway to make the most of these proposals in West Wales? First

:38:30.:38:37.

of all it is true to say that the project mentioned is crucially

:38:38.:38:40.

important. It is possible to consider the city deal to take new

:38:41.:38:48.

projects in terms of transport into account. We can certainly consider

:38:49.:38:53.

that. Thirdly, in taking over the franchise next year, it will be very

:38:54.:39:00.

important to ensure that the rail service is also improved in

:39:01.:39:04.

Pembrokeshire and to link Pembrokeshire with the rest of Wales

:39:05.:39:11.

and the rest of the UK. Ports are in important part of transport in

:39:12.:39:14.

Pembrokeshire and particularly the link between Wales and Ireland. With

:39:15.:39:19.

Brexit happening this week I am concerned that we will see less

:39:20.:39:24.

transport in terms of goods carried between Britain and Ireland and also

:39:25.:39:30.

in terms of passengers, with lots of talk about developing more direct

:39:31.:39:36.

links between France and the Republic of Ireland in order to

:39:37.:39:42.

avoid Britain once we have left the EU. That will undermine Pembroke

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Dock so what steps are you taking to ensure that we keep transport

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between the ports of Pembrokeshire? I have raised this number of times

:39:59.:40:01.

with the Westminster government and with the Irish government and I

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discussed it with the Taoiseach when he was here on the tenth March. My

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concern is that if it is easier to go through Northern Ireland that is

:40:11.:40:14.

where goods will go. If there is more paperwork that has to be filled

:40:15.:40:19.

in going through Holyhead, Pembroke Dock and Fishguard, if there is any

:40:20.:40:26.

official order in Wales but nothing of that kind in Northern Ireland

:40:27.:40:29.

then goods will go through Liverpool and the links that have -- the ports

:40:30.:40:33.

that have links with Northern Ireland. The Republic of Ireland

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understands this will have an impact on Dublin and other ports. It is

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crucially important that the arrangements in border crossing are

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the same between Wales and the Republic of Ireland as between the

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Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. Will he provide an update

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on the new treatment... All health boards have received updates on

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their funding and the Cabinet Secretary will update before the

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summary says. -- summer recess. This demonstrates the Welsh government's

:41:13.:41:17.

commitment to delivering on the 2016 election pledge and I understand

:41:18.:41:22.

that new fund will Expedia eight -- will expedite access to new

:41:23.:41:34.

medicines for a host of illnesses, no doubt helping countless

:41:35.:41:37.

individuals with life-threatening else's right here in Wales. --

:41:38.:41:45.

illnesses. I understand that it is extremely early days but can I

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request that we receive regular updates on progress within the

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access to the new treatment fund and any figures that could be attached

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to that? I am sure that can be done. In January 2015 medicines

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recommended by NICE have been made available to patients and in the

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first two months this has already made a palpable Air France. --

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difference. Can you give us an overview of what monitoring is in

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place to ensure the funds that have gone to the health boards for this

:42:23.:42:26.

very where -- worthy initiative are being spent on just this initiative?

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There is full monitoring on that and we will see the results of that

:42:32.:42:37.

through the process is already made available. What discussions he has

:42:38.:42:45.

the Welsh government had with Cardiff Council regarding the

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provision of a new bus station in the city? This is ultimately a

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matter for Cardiff Council. I met with the counsellor and we discussed

:42:55.:42:59.

the latest updates on that the element. -- that development. I

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understand it is a matter principally for the council but the

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bus station is an issue of growing concern to South Wales residents.

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There have been fears that the facility may be too small and fears

:43:17.:43:20.

over the funding now as well. We don't yet know if there will be

:43:21.:43:24.

coach bays at the new station, none of which really helps with the

:43:25.:43:30.

government providing day-to-day integrated transport. As Cardiff is

:43:31.:43:33.

such an important hub for the region, can the Welsh government

:43:34.:43:37.

make any intervention to make sure that passengers do end up with a

:43:38.:43:41.

first-class facility rather than a botched job? There was a time when

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Cardiff Council doubted whether there needed to be a bus stop at

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all. -- bus station. It is hugely important to have an interchange and

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a hub. The need for a new station is clear to me, it needs to be fit for

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purpose, future proof, successfully integrated. The project has been led

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by a company that has monthly meetings with key stakeholders

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including us. I understand that planning permission has been

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approved but the start date has been delayed as discussions take place on

:44:20.:44:24.

what the station should look like. There is agreement that the station

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should be fit for purpose as the main interchange of a capital city.

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Following the triggering of Article 50 this week, what discussions does

:44:33.:44:38.

the First Minister intent to have with the UK Government and the

:44:39.:44:41.

establishment of a UK single market? The answer is on the many. I have

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had discussions already, we continue to hold them. -- the answer is,

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many. I think we should continue with an internal single market

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within the UK, there should be a rules -based system, those rules

:45:02.:45:06.

should be agreed by all four governments and there should be an

:45:07.:45:10.

independent adjudicator, a trade court if you like, to police those

:45:11.:45:15.

rules. If all of those requirements are satisfied the single market

:45:16.:45:17.

could be robust. Other people have referred to the

:45:18.:45:34.

Dem 's report saying... We have seen by the recent accidents by Tories

:45:35.:45:37.

are made that the party has broken promises. David Davies, has said, he

:45:38.:45:45.

wants to see the same benefits we have with the single market and

:45:46.:45:50.

Customs union to be maintained after we leave the EU. How realistic is

:45:51.:45:54.

the First Minister think that is? In the light of the fact that the Prime

:45:55.:45:59.

Minister of Malta has said that of necessity, our relationship needs to

:46:00.:46:04.

be inferior to that we currently enjoy? It's possible to do it by

:46:05.:46:13.

four example remaining in the EU. They don't want to pay into a budget

:46:14.:46:18.

pot, but if you want to be in a club you have to pay the fee. I think the

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UK will be offered a model that I don't think the UK will be offered a

:46:30.:46:33.

specific model. I don't believe there is a majority of people in

:46:34.:46:37.

this majority who want to see a Brexit that is so hard that tariffs

:46:38.:46:41.

will be put impose, there will be unnecessary restrictions of new,

:46:42.:46:52.

movements. What we don't know is that what they believe the terms

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would be. To my mind, it is perfectly possible to leave the EU

:46:57.:47:00.

and yet still have full access to the single market. Question nine,

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David Melding. What is the Welsh Government doing

:47:04.:47:07.

to actively promote female mentorship programmes

:47:08.:47:09.

in the workplace? We provide a programme to maximise

:47:10.:47:19.

the contribution women make to the economy. I think we all remember

:47:20.:47:22.

with deep affection, Dame Rosemary Butler, our former Bravo try

:47:23.:47:30.

Presiding Officer, and herb programme to fix her programme to

:47:31.:47:39.

increase women in public life. It was increasing ambition in women who

:47:40.:47:44.

already have the talent to perform outstandingly in the workplace.

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Quality is an important part of this. The exact equality. There are

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other tools at our disposal as well, it was commissioned by the Chief

:47:58.:48:03.

scientific adviser, dealing with the long-term problems of women in

:48:04.:48:10.

science, and the Minister Julie James accepted the statement in

:48:11.:48:14.

January. Those are two examples among many of the work being done to

:48:15.:48:21.

achieve two, the true equality in our society. Finally, question ten.

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Will the First Minister consider reopening

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inpatient perinatal mental health facilities?

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That is a decision for the health boards and committees. We are

:48:34.:48:43.

investing money for community specialist perinatal mental health

:48:44.:48:47.

service. I hope he has the opportunity to hear from mothers in

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Wales who have had the courage to speak out about their individual

:48:51.:48:55.

experience at Charlotte Harding from Cardiff whose husband took two years

:48:56.:49:01.

off from work to care for her and her two boys after developing

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postpartum psychosis. The own criteria in this country is based

:49:06.:49:11.

on... They are failing the government's own criteria. It costs

:49:12.:49:16.

more to send Welsh mothers to inpatient centres in England than it

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would have two keep the facilities open in Wales and we know the

:49:20.:49:23.

provision is patchy. Politics aside, can I plead with the First Minister

:49:24.:49:28.

to put as a matter of urgency this issue to the top of the agenda, so

:49:29.:49:31.

mothers in Wales do not face the joys of being separated from a

:49:32.:49:33.

newborn baby or their families or or not have the mental health

:49:34.:49:44.

facilities in their own country. In the last few years less than five

:49:45.:49:48.

women have been admitted to inpatient in Wales. The problem then

:49:49.:49:56.

of course is you cannot run a specialist unit on those numbers. No

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accredited body will allow this. It can't be a specialist unit with

:50:03.:50:06.

those numbers. I agree with him about the condition and not

:50:07.:50:09.

separating mothers and babies which is why we go the extra funding into

:50:10.:50:19.

community-based Perak perinatal funding. Focusing on the individual

:50:20.:50:22.

rather than the hospital, making sure they have community care,

:50:23.:50:29.

rather than using a badly used service and a problem of it

:50:30.:50:38.

continuing to be a unit. That was First Minister's Questions this

:50:39.:50:41.

afternoon. For more coverage, go online to BBC world's Senedd page.

:50:42.:50:51.

-- BBC Wales's Senedd web page. You can watch more at 6:30pm on BBC

:50:52.:50:57.

Wales. And at 9pm on S foresee. First Minister's Questions is back

:50:58.:50:58.

next week. Thank you for watching. I think I've died and gone to

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a new life start again?

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