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boycotted the poll in protest at the overthrow of the democratically

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elected Islamist president, Mohammed Morsi. Now on BBC News, Politics

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Europe. On today's programme. The EU

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president accuses David Cameron of chauvinism and scaremongering.

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Britain has been debating whether to limit the free movement of people

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across Europe. The Maltese government is under fire for its

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plan to sell 2000 passports for 650,000 euros each. Political

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parties gear up for the parliament elections in May. Candidates seek

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their party 's nomination is to be president. Boatbuilding, broadband,

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transport. Projects in Cornwall funded by the EU. Here is our guide

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to Europe in 60 seconds. Multis plans to sell passports to

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foreigners to 650,000 euros have made the EU angry. Under the scheme,

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they can live in any member state not just Malta. Citizenship must not

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be up for sale. The Greek Prime Minister set up a stall for it being

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president of the union. Jobs and growth will top the agenda over the

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next six months. Tough talking from a man about the future of the EU. A

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simple choice to Europe. Reform or decline. His private life

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overshadowed his plans to get the economy moving again. Honey

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accidentally contaminated with genetically modified pollen will not

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have to be listed. I have been joined by an MEP and

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some guy. Let's look at the stories and a bit more detail. The planned

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to sell EU passports were 650,000 euros each. That is about half ?1

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million. Should that be legal? Yet to think that they're not just

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selling Maltese passports. They then have the right to go all along the

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border. Ireland and Portugal have also done that. Ireland made of a

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?200 million from this. It's happening right across the board.

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The big problem is and selling it to wealthy businessmen who will invest

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into Malta. The problem is Bulgaria and Romania who will hang out to

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other countries. There is evidence it is happening. When Spain has

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given amnesty to people from Morocco, the problem is that Spain

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which has 50% or 60% youth unemployment, these people will then

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gradually drift west. Is Malta being different to us? I hear we have a T1

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investor scheme where you get the passport if you contribute ?1

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million. There are many countries around the world including the US

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and Canada that have this. There are schemes in place in most countries.

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This is a case for each country to decide what their rules are. Once

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they have rules and they are transparent, they have to abide by

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them. You want is giving them a passport. They are then free to go

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everywhere. It must be a concern to everyone in the EU. We have to make

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sure that the rules which are set out that they are adhered to. In all

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fairness, we can't see they are breaking the rules. Being able to

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travel freely as one of the main parts of the treaty made in the

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1950s. Poorer countries like Romania and Bulgaria joining in recent years

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mean that David Cameron says there should be limits to the freedom of

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movement. It has been met with a hostile reaction. As an EU citizen

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with one of these, I can arrive in a French city and start working and

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settle down if I want. It is just like members from other member

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states including those from Bulgaria and Romania. One man is trained to

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change that by calling for tougher controls on the freedom of movement

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from poorer EU countries. There's even talk of a on the numbers able

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to come and work in Britain. It has been met with derision by the Europe

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Parliament this says the idea will not fly. I have to offer him

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nothing. If he wants to redefine the relationship between United Kingdom

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and European Union, the relationship defines us. It is a right which is

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not up for negotiation. It can't come as a surprise that the

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principle from movement exist and is applicable throughout the union

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without discrimination, because we don't do that. The problem is that

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the principle of freedom of movement is etched into the fabric of the

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European Union. Many say it is nonnegotiable. We do not

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discriminate. They pay taxes where they work. These proposals are

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against European and treaty law. Everyone else will defend the

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discretion of free movement. What is getting a better wrap is giving

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access to benefits. The pension secretary has suggested two years

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before welfare can be claimed. This is agreed by the government, but

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they don't like to debate. It is the way they have gone about it. You

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can't work with people with similar views. You need to work with these

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people and not threaten them and lecture them. When it comes to

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Europe, they have always gone in different directions. They fell out

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with David Cameron over his plans on Europe. The elections will be based

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on whether you are in or out. We want to see the benefits of the

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opinion. David Cameron is talks on the European Union were meant to

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keep sceptics on board. It is not enough. Some Conservatives believe

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it is time for Britain to pack its bags and leave the EU altogether.

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We are joined by Bulgaria 's minister. Thank you for joining us.

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You described the British attitude to free movement as an intimidation

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campaign. That is pretty strong, isn't it? It is the way our citizens

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see it. That is why I had to say how we felt. What is more important now

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is that the campaign is granted and we are ready to reset correlations

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and start giving positive messages from both sides this country that

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has taken an a net increase of 3 million migrants. It is hardly an

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unwelcoming country in general. Definitely. That is where we were

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surprised. Bulgarians are not a nation which is ready to come in big

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numbers into the United Kingdom. We have proved in the past years that

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those Bulgarians are already here in the United Kingdom and contribute

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and are good members of the communities they live. That's where

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this campaign isn't understood. Is a bigger problem that are going to

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lose poorer you are in risk of losing some of your best and

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brightest and hardest working of the country. I'm you afraid we will get

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the benefit of them instead? They support the British economy in this

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case. That is part of the rules within the union. We are ready and

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we do accept that on our side. We also have to accept some difficult

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rules including another transitional period that was in our treaty. EU

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citizens are allowed to come and land and Bulgaria. There was debate

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there, but I government said it was part of our commitments and not

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negotiable. Yes, from 1st of January 2014, we apply these rules. The

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evidence we have seen so far is that there hasn't been avalanche of

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Bulgarians coming to this country. Those that have been coming here are

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coming to work. Do you have a view of when it is appropriate for those

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who come here when they should qualify for their qualify for

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welfare. I wouldn't enter into the debate on changes of social welfare

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and healthcare. It is a national responsibility. The national

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governments and parliaments have possibilities to change their rules.

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Within the European rules, the experts follow closely what is being

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proposed and adopted in United Kingdom. What's important is that

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the changes aren't being done in a disk entry way. This is the General

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agreement in my meetings with parliamentarians. They reconfirmed

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that any change will have no disk on a tree nature. Thank you for joining

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us. There are two things here. We have always welcomed people who want

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to come here and work. But there said, a lot of people choose to work

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elsewhere within the European Union. I think that is a very positive

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thing. People are quite welcoming of that particularly given that many of

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our doctors and professionals and the city of London benefits hugely.

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Many of the Europeans are working. The real issue is that there is no

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continuity or consistency in social and welfare benefits in Europe. Some

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countries allow you to have access to welfare within three months, some

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insects, some in a year. There is no consistency. UK had this instantly.

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People come here and benefit. We can start to make a difference once it

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is on the table for debate. The bigger issue here is that the

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freedom of movement of people may work when you're talking about two

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economies but when you open them up particular to Bulgaria, the minimum

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wage is 350 euros or odd man. The average is 150 or odd month traffic

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is only ever going to be one way. We can't. We have 1 million children

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are employed. But that is not as the results of Romanians or Bulgarians.

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It is the fault of the system. Our MPs have a strong. We should have

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the skills being offered so they could come here and work. We can't

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have an open border. The jewel party leader was predicting that they

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would be pouring in. There is no evidence this has happened. They

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will be disappointed. We are only 17 days in. I understand. Think tanks

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think there will be 250,000 over the next five years. In addition to

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those already here. 250,000 Romanians and Bulgarians can Chamakh

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yes. Over five years. The Institute for democracy says Moore. It is not

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similar to Bristol. It makes no sense to have an open border when we

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had 2.4 million people unemployed in our own country. But if we stay in

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the European Union, welfare payments, they are a different

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matter, but the principle of free movement of people is, it doesn't

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say free movement of workers, free movement of benefits, it is the free

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movement of people, it covers everybody. There is no advocate in

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the UK to change that. They are asking for a debate. I call it

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democracy, not popular is on. We need to have an open debate. There

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is plenty of room. We need to make sure that as the EU and margins, and

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it will, we already have countries that are signed up to come and join.

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We need to have sensible rules that they have to get to certain

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standards before they are allowed that try to free movement or free

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passage. We have the Ukraine, Serbia, all of them. We will be out,

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we will be able to control it. As you may know, 2014 is the year of

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fresh elections for the European Union. The voters in May. In

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Britain, polls open on Thursday, the 22nd, day after my in case you want

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to make another. The votes would be counted until Sunday the 25th

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because of other European countries working at the weekend. Up for grabs

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are 151 seats across 28 nations. In the United Kingdom, 73 MEPs will be

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returned with seats allocated according to a share of the vote. It

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is a PR system. The election will determine the make-up of the

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European Parliament for the next five years. The voters also

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important because for the first time, national leaders will have to

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the result into account when deciding who should be the next

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President of the EU Commission. That has led the European political

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groupings to nominate their own candidates. A party of European

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socialists has already made Martin Schultz, the current President of

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the European Parliament, as their choice for the President. The

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grouping will decide next month whether to choose the current

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economic affairs commissioner or a former prime minister of Belgium. He

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is a well-known federalist. In March, the writers and do evil party

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will decide their candidate. -- People's Party. One of the options

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is an EU commissioner. There we go. Who would you like to be the next

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President ? None of the above. They have -- do you have a candidate? Any

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star be decided between the states. I would like to see the next UK

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commissioner be the President. Who is that? We won't know that until

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July but I would like to have Nick Clegg... LAUGHS who would you like

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the next President to be customer I don't think we should be in the

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European Union. I knew you are going to say that. I

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know. If you don't get away, who would you like? None of the above.

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All it will happen is that it will be a big stitch up like we have with

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the President of the Parliament. The socialist as an aside their man,

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they will have a deal, be PUP will select theirs. It would be

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democratic it will be business as usual. What letter to the European

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Parliament ? -- what will it do to the European Parliament? We have a

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huge group of maybe 35%, maybe more, of those outside of the mainstream

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right and those to the further right. UKIP do very well. You're

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thirsty third place in the poll. We have a head in France at the

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moment. There is also Holland and Italy. What will that do to the

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Parliament? My biggest concern is that most of the work is done and on

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legislation, individual dossiers. Europe doesn't work on this. It

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means that there will be less people doing more work and it means that

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the centre will have to work harder to get those votes on proportion. So

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there is a big chunk of the European Parliament, will it mean more

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clashes between the Parliament and Brussels elites? I hope so because

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they have had an easy ride. I think the make-up of the parliament will

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change radically and maybe they will start listening to national

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democracy is a bit more. Do you think we will come first ? I hope

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so. But do you think it? I think we have a chance. Very political these

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days. The biggest chunk of the European Union budget was in the

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agricultural policy. Where does the second largest chunk go? No, not to

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flex but to MEP's pensions. It is sent back to member states to their

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poorest areas. Over the next seven years they will be sent to more than

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300 early in euros. Where does it all go? In the latest instalment of

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our European Union A-Z we have them looking at EU regional funds.

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Welcome to Cornwall. And the Isa Brussels, it is on par with or

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Transylvania. That is because Cornwall's annual income is less

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than three quarters of the EU average. It means it qualifies for

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special regional funding called convergence will stop it is designed

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to even out economic disparities across Europe. In Wales, it is the

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only place in the UK there gets it. In typical youth style, there is a

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flotilla of other funds as well but the bulk of regional money goes to

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regions like this. In Cornwall's case, 500 million pounds goes here

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over six years. Where has that Congress should not this yacht

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builders was awarded ?190,000. Local beneficiaries they had to match the

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funding with the own money. This is what it paid for. The mould for

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making the whole for the new model of yacht. The boats go to the super

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rich but they are helping to spread the wealth by creating jobs.

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Cornwall is very pretty around the outside and in summer when all of

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the Range Rovers comedown from London and park outside the cottages

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and feels very different. But you drive and five miles and their

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industry was lower than last ten years. There has been a huge change.

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Up the road is used to be fields but now it is higher education campus.

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It the centrepiece for a university studying environment and

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sustainability. 21 . They all seem quite cheap competitor because

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project, broadband. BT got ?53.5 million to pay for it. The company

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was stumping up the same amount. It all comes together here at the

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innovation centre. Travis Head set on. Strap it on your head. The

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investment on the Internet, new workspaces, education and employment

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board the scams company which has gone from warm worker last summer to

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11 by the end of this month. It made me feel a bit sick. It is so weird.

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There isn't really an aspect of the business operation done here which

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isn't some way as it did by European Union convergence funding. Devo

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debate every night thinking the founding fathers of the EU?

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-- do you go to bed every night. I wouldn't go that far but it has made

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it a lot easier for us. In return, the EU gets its flat busted

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everywhere. Yes, everywhere. It rages critics who think that the UK

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could spend its own money, thank you very much. It really be said that?

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As a local councillor, I am not sure that investment would have

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happened. It has happened through the European Union and it is going

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to happen in the future. We want to do our best to make the most of the

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investment. Sometime, and yes, it Europe fund at this as well.

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Insiders admit that not every year of regional funding was well spent

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like rural airports and Spain which are a lot quieter than this one.

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Regional funds aren't going anywhere. They are staying a crucial

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and that part of the budget. What is not to like about this? Look

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at all of this funding doing great things. Because it is our own money.

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And the last round Britain put in ?30 billion and got ?9 billion back.

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That is not good value for money. Look at my area, Merseyside, every

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?2 88 we only get ?1 that. That is our money. It would be better spent

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here. 20 seconds to reply. Wales is a huge

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recipient of convergence funding and also gets a large amount of in. I

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will take whatever we get so long as the standard correctly and make a

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difference to our economy. And who could blame if for taking what you

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can get? Thank you to my guests today. That

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is all for now. Mixed fortunes were many of us as we

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can. Chances are it is the Reynolds is a gimmick it

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