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Hello, and welcome to Politics Europe. On today's programme.


Theresa May spells out her Brexit plant, confirming the UK will leave


the single market, warning EU leaders that no deal is better than


a bad deal. We will look at reaction across Europe and examine the likely


negotiating strategy of the of the EU. We report from Strasbourg where


MEPs have voted for this man, Antonio, as the new president of the


European Parliament. And as Donald Trump enters the White House, how


are the residents of Melania Trump's hometown in Slovenia celebrating the


success of their most famous ex-resident. I put white chocolate


because of the White House, she is always dressed in white. So I put


white chocolate. So, all that to come and more in the next half-hour.


First, though, here is our guide to the latest from Europe in just 60


seconds. After much anticipation, on Tuesday, Prime Minister Theresa May


delivered her speech on Brexit. She said the UK would lay the single


market, and had a strong message to European neighbours. No deal is


better than a bad deal. There were mixed reactions from European


leaders, some accusing her of cherry picking from the EU. Others were


more kind. We want a fair deal with Britain and for Britain. Also on


Tuesday, the European Parliament elected its new president, Antonio,


from the centre-right EPP. On Thursday, MEPs called for emergency


aid for refugees again, specifically to help them with freezing


temperatures and snow across Europe. And also this week, a report from


top officials calls for the EU to raise its own taxes. Standby for a


European VAT, a bank levy, or corporate tax. Actually, don't hold


your breath. With me for the next few minutes is the right and left


MEPs. And also we are joined from Brussels by our political chief


correspondent, David. Let me come to you first. When will we get the


combined or collective European negotiating position Theresa May has


outlined with her speech this week what Britain wants. Will we get


something similar from the European Union side? Certainly not before the


formal triggering of Article 50. The EU has been very clear about this.


It is not their job to help the EU a long. So you know the steps we need


to take. We are still waiting for a court decision for Parliament to


act. Once that happens in the formal notification is received from


Brussels, we will see Michel Barnier kicked into action with a more


cohesive message coming out of Russells at that point. -- Brussels.


In London, how much hostility is there to Britain building up to


these negotiations? There is resignation and disappointment with


the way we are going. I would also say there is almost a feeling of


abdication of political leadership in terms of we keep talking about


immigration and only immigration and not discussing important issues like


the economy and jobs. And what that means... And the speech hasn't


really, other than clarifying we will not be in the single market,


which I am personally really devastated by, because I do think it


is important for our economy and jobs, and for our income, to


safeguard NHS, education, and services, but I think the main


concern is that we seem to have thrown in the towel before we have


actually started negotiations. What do you say to that? I disagree. I


happen to be in the more detailed discussions that are happening


between the Parliament's it is. What I have noticed is a change of tone


over the Christmas period. -- committees. As the committees looked


after the more detailed negotiations. We had a long


interview with Michel Barnier. One of the people heading up the


negotiations. He is a detailed person, talking about the need for a


new partnership and relationship, one that recognises the close


economic ties between Europe... I... What I have noticed. Sorry. As they


look at the details, the more practical and pragmatic approach,


not wanting to damage the economy on either side of the Channel, I am


just beginning to feel that, in that negotiation... I would say that in


response to Theresa May's speech this week, it has undone some of


that work. I have said this... No, my colleagues are also involved in


those negotiations with Michel Barnier. And there is a plan to move


these things forward, he said. But the speech, the way things have gone


down now, people are saying, well, you are not really interested in


closing a deal. You have stated you want out. Let me go back to...


David, let me ask you this again, because, on this side of the


Channel, we are still a little unclear. Assume Article 50 is


triggered by the vote in Parliament and that is the way it has gone.


What then? How does Europe come to its collective view? Does that have


to be determined by the Council of Ministers by 27? Do they give it a


bunny abroad negotiating mandate? -- Michel Barnier a broad. We get the


idea that it is already taking shape, that mandate. Let me go back


to the previous question. There is a lot of lip service being paid to the


continued importance and relevance of British officials in Brussels and


the EU. But what we are seeing is that it is quickly apparent they are


being marginalised. Even in the Parliament they are saying everyone


is a full member until Brexit happens. It is quite clear that


relevance is disappearing very fast to be that is very important for the


UK, which will be part of the EU for many years. In terms of the mandate


that Michel Barnier has, there has been reaction to the Prime


Minister's speech. Looking back to the very first bite simple things


that Angela Merkel was seen after the referendum. -- Politics Europe


the four fundamental freedoms of the EU are not up for negotiation. And


in Paris and Berlin, the does not seem to be significant recognition


of that in London. They have not got the message. These things are not


negotiable. And... It is not like an American Express ad. Mentorship has


its responsibilities. The Prime Minister recognised the importance


of the four freedoms to the rest of the EU. She went back to talking


about a close economic partnership. From the side of the EU we want to


keep open as much of trade as possible. And put it back to the


practical co-operation we have on economic issues like trade in goods,


she mentioned cars and financial services as well. Practical


cooperation. They want to keep... Can I ask you... And I ask you a


question. No, we have not got time. If the government is now ruling out


membership of the single market, why are the four freedoms relevant? They


do not need to be up for negotiation. Because if we are not


going to be a member of the single market then the four freedoms do not


apply. They are not for us. I agree. No, I am asking here in London. I


assume it is one of the reasons she has decided... That is my


understanding as well. It clears these issues. I think it is wrong


that we put immigration above jobs and the economy. And that is what I


am hearing from manufacturers in the West Midlands. They need access to


the single market... When you look at the referendum... Hang on, do you


accept? Let me finish. You are talking about the referendum and I


do not want to do that. Do you accept that if we are not part of


the single market then the four freedoms that are part of the single


market do not need to be part of the negotiations? We have had some


statements from the Prime Minister saying we will have customs


arrangements. We do not know the details of that? We do not know what


that means. Let me go back to David. David, if we are going... If it is


the government's position to go for a Free Trade Agreement, why are the


four freedoms of the single market relevant? What I think is that to


understand if there has been compromising on that side, if the UK


is not willing to live up to those standards, then, in fact, there will


be a cost to leaving membership of the EU. That any trade deal will not


be as preferential, will not have as good an arrangement as the current


arrangement. If they understand that it will not happen for some time. In


any Free Trade Agreement, there is always a clause about movement or


free access with no visa. The Canadian free-trade deal which is


the most recent one does not involve free movement. Let us be very


clear... Can I come back in? What I have heard the chief negotiator for


the European Commission say is not a special deal for the UK, but a deal


that is very this effect, that recognises our economic links, that


wants to form a new partnership, and that is what the Prime Minister has


set out. She has set out her willingness to not put up new


barriers to free trade and manage the economies on both sides to be we


need to start working on the detail of that. That is the tone I have had


out of Brussels. We need to work on that. Let me go back to David. How


much concern is there from Brussels, or do they not think it is a


concern, that the kind of antiestablishment insurgency we have


seen with Brexit and then Donald Trump's election, could well


dominate the important elections in Holland, in France, in Austria,


perhaps in Italy, and almost certainly, elections are taking


place in Germany this year. And that could be the backdrop with worrying


about what is happening on the ground in Europe. There is no


question these political forces, this anti- establishment forces, are


concerned. But interestingly, Donald Trump may be a force that serves to


unify the EU. That if the EU saw some reason to stay unified because


of the upcoming Brexit negotiations, then Donald Trump seems to be giving


even greater urgency or the EU 27 to stick together. I think people are


feeling fairly confident. And so, in fact, I think there is confidence


growing in Brussels that they will make it through these elections OK.


And in a funny way, Donald Trump is creating a unifying force. All


rights. Confidence in the Republican establishment was there that he


would win the primary races as well. We will see whether the Brussels


bureaucrats are better at predicting band the politicians on the other


side of the Atlantic. Thank you for being without. We need to move on.


There has an election in Europe. It was in Strasbourg this week. MEPs


vote for the next president of the European Parliament, an important


position, because he is the Parliament's top dog, which brings


considerable influence behind the scenes. Here is our report. The


moment when Antonio Tajani from the centre-right European people's party


became the new man in charge. Congratulating him, his predecessor,


Martin Schulz, the German Socialists, who is leaving after


five years at the helm, even though his party's candidate, Gianni, was


defeated, in what was a bruising contest. As Martin Schulz exited


stage left, the changing of the guard at European Parliament is


completed. This election was really a battle between two Italians, but


it started off as a contest divided up between six candidates. After


three rounds of voting, it was down to Gianni Patella on the left and


Antonio Tajani on the right. In the end, Mr Antonio Tajani came out on


top. This is a clean sweep for the centre-right on the EU. The


commission is headed up by Juncker and Tusk, all in the EEP. We were


not able to win. But we fought strongly in case the knobbly... And


we will fight again and again and again. -- monopoly. Is Antonio


Tajani? He is a familiar face. But he cut his teeth as a spokesman for


the former Prime Minister of Italy, Silvio Berlusconi. He is a coalition


builder. He is a very honest person. He keeps his word. You can feel it,


all the different groupings in the European Parliament, if you ask


them, in particular, members of Parliament, what they would say


about him, it is that he is a man that keeps his word.


It is this approach that won in the support of other conservative


groups. I think it would be a better chairman for us in the Parliament.


He has promised to be more of a speaker than a Prime Minister. We


need a neutral conductor of business. And the other thing is


that it is better to have someone from the centre-right in the chair


than a leftist. For those reasons, we came to support Antonio Tajani's


campaign. His in tray is full. Countering the rise of


euroscepticism ahead of elections, coping with new waves of migrants


and wrecks that, although he will not be the man leading the


negotiations on behalf of Parliament. That will be done by a


Liberal MP. How do you think Antonio Tajani will respond in terms of


Brexit? He will say that they are opposed to Brexit and they will


oppose it. They will punish us and expect to see us perform badly. That


is what he will say. Actually, he is far more measured and pragmatic. So


Antonio Tajani will be the man in post you in Parliament in just over


two years time when the sun sets on the UK's negotiations with the EU


over its exit. And Novo Mestos from the remaining states will have a


vote to ratify any deal that has been agreed. So the president of the


commission and another conservative president, Donald task, now a


centre-right Italian MEP, president of the Parliament. Is the right to


taking over the institutions of the EU? I am disappointed that our


candidate, who put up a good fight and was not successful... I think it


is wrong because it EU governments... And who were you


supporting? Patella. It is of concern that all three institutions


are on the centre-right. I do not think it bodes well but more


importantly what concerns me, and I get along quite well with Antonio


Tajani, but I think he is not really a strong candidate in terms of the


challenges that the EU faces this year. Martin Shields has really


increased Parliament role and visibility. Is there not an irony


that a conservative government is taking us out of the EU institutions


just as Conservatives are dominating European Union institutions? In


response, the reason we have a centre-right politician now is


because the centre-right have more votes because the centre-right got


more votes from the public... You mean in Parliament? Yes. They won


more votes in the European elections. That is why he won. I am


pleased to see someone who has said they will be more of a speaker and


list of a Prime Minister. We found Martin Shields very dictatorial. He


overruled many decisions of the committees so the back benches...


Will the new Minister be helpful or unhelpful on Brexit? I voted for him


in the last round because he promised to listen to all of the


Parliament, especially to the conservative performance group and


he promised to play a neutral tone on Brexit, to allow the


negotiation... Part of the deal is that riposte that stays as a chief


negotiator and he has been strengthened. And what Capello was


offering... He was saying that he would take a hostile offer


negotiation. In terms of British interest it would have been better,


given the cost to's position on the UK... That is the Belgian


federalist? He is the leader of one of the groups. He has an agreement


now with the centre-right grouping to change the direction of the EU.


They want a European coastguard. A European defence force... Hold on.


Hold on. And also a European intelligence and investigation


capacity. So if that is the way that these two big groups in the European


Parliament are going, even labour could not support most of that. No.


We were not supporting these candidates. But is that the


direction of Europe now? The eye could not have supported the


Socialist candidate. You have a choice of two, both of whom are


fundamentally federalist. Patella was not federalist. The offer from


Antonio Tajani was to be more of a neutral speaker to allow the


parliament to move on with its post. Just on the role of Gaya, he is not


in the negotiation. He is the chief negotiator and... The two of you are


confusing me here. You say he is not an negotiation and you say he is the


chief negotiator. You can't both be right. Negotiations are conducted in


the European Council and it was the Bonnie is that team. They were


negotiation Parliament. Parliament as a whole has a vote. I am still


not clear but I have run out of time to clarify. We have the latest now


in the series of ROMs profiling EU member states. We have travelled to


fellow of any hour. Where people in -- are getting used to the idea that


their most famous export is now the first Lady of the world. I was born


in Slovenia, a small then Communist country in central Europe. And here


it is. This town had a population of 4.5 thousand. And here you find the


biggest manufacturer of pants in Slovenia. She left and found fame


fortune and a husband in the United States in the mid-19 90s. Since then


her home country has joined Nato, the EU and the euro. I am armed with


a magazine with Melania on the front cover. What do you think about


Melania? A great woman. For me it is not interesting. Nothing was Mike


yeah. Can you imagine that Donald Trump industry visiting that house?


Here they are offering a first Lady tour where you can see her old


school, have famous local salami for lunch. 32 euros per person. At the


bakery they are selling a Trump themed cake. We put white chocolate


colours of the White House. She always wears white so we put white


chocolate and we put gold on the top because it is luxury. Also other


speciality ingredients. It is not exactly Melania mania. Possibly


because her Slovenian lawyers have issued a reminder that her name is a


trademark. The biggest thing that Mrs Trump has done for us is to get


us recognised. So we are respectful about using her name, partly because


her family still live here. And that will continue to be the case in the


future. But surely it is great material for Slovenian comedians? Do


you have a good joke? That she is a Slovenian designed robot who


infiltrates the White House and now we are in charge. We are such a


small country and this was our secret plan because the president of


UEFA is also Slovenian so we are putting people into positions and


waiting to see what happens. Thank you for giving us the heads up.


Celebrations of the inauguration are low-key. The main event is the


annual pruning of the vineyards. And eating Melania cake. Adam Fleming


who is not a robot that you should see his air miles from these


reports. That was from Slovenia. Thank you to our guests for being


with us today and that is it for us now. Thank you for watching and


goodbye to you. Well, the temperatures


through the night have been It has been down to minus seven


degrees, at least in one or two areas, and I think scenes like this


for some of us on Sunday morning.


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