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All are welcome to the Scottish parliament here at Holyrood. Wide

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range of controversies for a MSP is to question the First Minister. It

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could be historical allegations regarding football. Let crossed to

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the chamber. The personal literacy programme is

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something the Cabinet sector a has said will be looked at. MSP is from

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across the chamber are allowed to ask questions on a range of topics

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before the First Minister takes questions from opposition leaders

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and MSP is. In terms of questions to Nicola Sturgeon this week, we know

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she will be asked about fuel poverty, death by dangerous driving,

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about loneliness for older people and economic growth forecasting.

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These are some of the topics which have been flagged up in advance.

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Opposition leaders give very little away in the questions the register.

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Ruth Davidson will ask what engagements the First Minister has

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planned for the rest of the day. Cassia Dugdale will ask what

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engagements she has planned for the rest of the week. There are some

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visitors in the public gallery is. Including members of a group from a

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school. There are some in the VIP gallery. To ask the First Minister

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what engagements she has planned for the rest of the day. Engagements to

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take forward its issues for the people of Scotland. Thank you for

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your comments about Alex Johnson. He would not want me to stand up to

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talk about him. He would want me to get stuck in to questioning the

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record of this government. After a decade of Scottish control -- SNP

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control over education, the worst results have been published. Who

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does she blame? Us or the Labour Party? In Alex Johnson's passing,

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this Parliament has missed one of its greatest personalities. All of

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our thoughts are with his family. And indeed his colleagues. I take

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responsibility on behalf of the Scottish Government for the

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performance of Scottish education. If anyone thinks I will stand here

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today and giving excuses, they are wrong. There is evidence I can cite

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about Scottish education, but I will not do that because the results of

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the survey earlier this week are not where I want us to be. They are not

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good enough. I am determined we take the action that will lead to

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improvement. The only thing I will say about them, and this is a

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contextual point, and I say it simply because this survey was

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carried out from a sample one and a half years ago. That was the same

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time there was a survey to prompt the programme of reform. That is

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firmly based on advice given to us by the OECD. I am determined we move

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forward with reform and that will lead to the improvements in Scottish

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education all of us want to see. The answer there was the same as the

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answer always seems to be, don't worry, bear with us and it will all

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seem to be fine. It is a stuck record and we have heard it before.

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Fiona Hyslop in 2009, we are determined to release that train.

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The Minister for learning in 2013, I am confident we will see continued

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progress in future years. Last year, Angela Constance, regarding

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following literacy standards, promising she was the one who would

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sort things out. That went well. We have had ten years worth of promises

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from several SNP Education Secretary is. Is it a pass or fail? We have a

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record number of exam passes in Scottish education. That is a

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statement of fact. We have a higher number of young people going into

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positive destinations than was the case previously. I come back to the

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point I made earlier. The survey results are not good enough. I want

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to see them published at. The report that was published told us to focus

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on a number of things. It said we had to focus on closing the

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attainment gap. It told us to put in place a measurement system, so we

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established the National improvement framework. Initial beta at school

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level will be published next week. From next year, it will be informed

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by new standardised assessments. It told us to simplify the curriculum.

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John Swinney has taken action to reduce teacher workload, strip away

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bureaucracy, and allow them to focus on what you're doing. Is said that

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schools at the heart of the system, so the governance review is looking

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at how we empower schools. And lastly improve leadership. We are

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taking forward a new programme of developing new headteachers. These

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are hard, concrete, tangible actions. I know the opposition will

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want to criticise. I can have no complaint about that. What I think

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is most important now is we all get behind these reforms. These reforms

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that will lead to the improvements we want to see in Scottish

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education. Not even an attempt from the First Minister to defend her

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ministers' performance. Not even an attempt to. We're been warning about

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the state of our education system for years. She talks of a governance

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review to come, but we await the details. Given the evidence of this

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week, I think it has to go deeper. The single biggest education reform

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under this government has been curriculum for excellence. Nobody

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here can simply brushed aside the fact that since it has come in,

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standards have fallen. I am telling the First Minister today that our

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ongoing support for curriculum for excellence cannot be taken for

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granted. I believe this entire project should be put on probation.

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There is a simple question I ask in all sincerity. If standards are

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going down because of it, why are we sticking by it? The principles

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behind the curriculum for excellence are right. Unanimous agreement

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within the Parliament it is the right way, as it is in the teaching

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profession. These other words of Liz Smith on seventh December. Just

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yesterday. I believe curriculum for excellence is the right way forward.

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Ruth Davidson has rightly and understandably quoted today the PISA

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survey. Carried out by the OECD. We ask the very same organisation to

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review curriculum for excellence and they have says it is the right thing

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to do, but they have given us advice I have narrated in my previous

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answer about how we improve standards in our school. That is

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what we will continue to do. That was quite a selective summary of

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what the First Minister wants us to believe the OECD report says. Let me

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read out what it actually says. It says, we emphasise that this summary

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is not an evaluation of Curriculum for Excellence itself and indeed the

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evidence is not available for such an evaluation. Now, we have had all

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the while from this government bland platitudes. All the while those

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platitudes have been coming, standards have gone down. We have

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gone backwards in Reading, backwards and science, backwards in maths and

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this week the SNP, the First Minister's colleagues, told us that

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despite all the challenges we face right now, what would be good for

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Scotland is a constitutional crisis. It's not another constitutional

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crisis we need, it is a government that faces up to its failure is an

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tackles them head on. I asked the First Minister, what is more

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important? Picking yet another fight over the constitution, or picking a

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fight to improve our schools? I have to say, it may have escaped Ruth

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Davidson's notice, but the entire UK faces a constitutional crisis right

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now, being played out in the Supreme Court this very day. It is a

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constitutional crisis created by the European obsession of the

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Conservatives, the Brexit obsession. I will leave Ruth Davidson to the

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politics today. I want to get back to the important matter of Scottish

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education. I notice she didn't comment on the quote from Liz Smith

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earlier this week, where she said the principles behind Curriculum for

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Excellence are absolutely right. That is the view of the Tory

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education spokesperson. It is also my view and I think it is the view

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of most people across this chamber. What we now need to do is focus on

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implementing the recommendations of the OECD. Making sure we invest, as

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we are doing silk through the attainment fund, in raising

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attainment. Making sure we have more data available at school level about

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the performance of our schools. Making sure we take away bureaucracy

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and invest in educational leadership. These are the hard

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actions this government will take forward. That is what parents across

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this country have a right to expect us to do and we will do it. This is

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a sombre day for Parliament. On behalf of Scottish Labour, let me

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extend our condolences to the family and friends of Alex Johnson. Are

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proud and devoted family man, a great character and was respected

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widely across this chamber. Can ask the First Minister what engagements

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she has planned for the rest of the week. Engagements to take forward

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the government's plans for Scotland. Thousands of children attend

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football training stations every week. Young boys and girls wanting

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to emulate their sporting heroes. But football has become enmeshed in

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society's shame. Once again, people who were trusted to care for our

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children have been found to be abusing. People have come forward

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with the courage to speak of their abuse. Does she believe these abused

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people should have justice? Of course I do. These allegations

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sicken us. Enquiries must take place with the police. In order that

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anyone who has been the victim of abuse gets the justice they saw

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rightly deserve. What is being alleged is criminal behaviour of the

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most serious kind. The NSPCC have established a dedicated advice line

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for anyone with concerns relating to abuse in football. All agencies are

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committed to working with the police, to ensure any allegations

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are investigated properly and thoroughly. Anyone who has suffered

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abuse should get access to justice. We are all horrified by child sex

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abuse. But this did happen to ex-footballers. Yet we will not be

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able to bring their cases to the Scottish Child abuse enquiry because

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they were not in care when they were abuse. This is true for all those

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who suffered abuse in youth clubs, parishes or other sports clubs.

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Survivors groups have asked that the enquiry's remit be extended to all

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situations where a duty of care existed. Labour has backed that

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call. The growing tide of revelations from footballers adds to

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that demand. Will the First Minister reconsider the enquiry's remit? The

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enquiries that must take place now into the allegations that are being

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made about football or first and foremost police enquiries. What is

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being alleged is criminal behaviour. The police must investigate

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thoroughly and robust play. If I could turn to the question about the

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public enquiry into child abuse, I of course understand the motivations

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of those who now call for the remit of that enquiry to be extended.

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Kezia Dugdale is right to see some survivors groups have called for

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that happen. Others have said the do not wish to see it extended in that

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way. The government has given this issue the most careful

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consideration. The enquiry which is already the most wide-ranging public

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enquiry ever held in Scotland, deliberately focuses on in care of

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abuse that took place in institutions or other settings that

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had legal responsibility for the long-term care of children. In place

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of their parents. To widen the remit of that enquiry would mean that it

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would take perhaps many many years longer to conclude its

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investigations and would risk becoming completely unwieldy. And we

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would be at risk, I think, of breaking our word to the survivors

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of in care abuse. My view is we should allow the enquiry to get on

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with its job and we should allow the police to get on a third job of

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investigating allegations of abuse in football. As the police enquiries

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take their course, if it does emerge there are wider systemic concerns to

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be addressed, we would consider very seriously how that should be taken

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forward This is about a fundamental

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principle and she should look to Australia to see how it can be done.

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Survivors of child abuse deserve justice, and the wait for an enquiry

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has already been too long. This enquiry holds out the promise of

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justice, but in restricting just who and what will be investigated, it

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will deny their justice. As it currently stands, the enquiry is

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excluding the vast judge of people who were abused. First sinister, how

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can that be right? Please, think about. -- First Minister, how cannot

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be right? Think again. The government has considered this

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carefully, John Swinney considered this matter and it is something that

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it sticks in three, we have to have an enquiry that can quickly give

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survivors the answer is that they want to ensure that we want to learn

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the lessons that they want us to learn so we can see that that kind

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of in care abuse will never be allowed to happen again in Scotland.

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We should look at experience in other countries and also the

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experience in England about what could happen if the remote becomes

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too unwieldy. -- the remit. We have to take these issues into account

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and come to a balanced conclusion and that is what we are seeking to

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do. Any abuse, no matter who is the victim and where that abuse occurs,

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is serious and must be properly and fully investigated. There is a

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distinction, I think, in terms of in care abuse where the institution

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where the abuse happens was in place of the parent of the child and had

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legal responsibility for the long-term care of the child. We will

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continue to take these issues very seriously. And through all of our

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actions, whether through public enquiry or through the action that

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we support in terms of the SFA action and the action police will

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take to take that make sure that anybody who was a victim of abuse

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gets access to justice because they deserve justice. Ask the First

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Minister what discussions the Scottish Government has had with the

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Greater Glasgow health board moving staff in my constituency which could

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you to eight closure -- lead to a closure of a minor injury unit in

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the west of Glasgow so constituents would have to go to the north or

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south. The Health Secretary had discussion this morning with the

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chair of the health board about this, the health board have

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announced that they plan to move some staff from the minor injury

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unit at Yorkhill to Queen Elizabeth as part of their overall plans for

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the winter period. The Health Secretary has spoken to the chair of

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the board this morning and he has given assurances that that move is

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temporary, to make sure that they are making better use of the expert

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nursing staff to help as many people as possible. The Health Secretary

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would be more than happy to discuss the issue in more detail with the

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member and have further discussions as required with the health board.

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To ask the First Minister what her response is to be an announcement on

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Tuesday of 270 job losses at a company in Romford chair, and how

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the government will -- Renfrew Shire, as these announcements follow

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recent announcement that other firms are moving out of Paisley? Because

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this -- the business ministers met with members recently and are

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convening a discussion in February to discuss the best way forward

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following the announcement, including the option of a task force

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which I discussed with Renfrewshire Council. In terms of Babcock, we are

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concerned to hear that they intend to consult on job losses, we know it

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is a difficult time for the workers at that site, Scottish pride are

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engaging with them -- Scottish enterprise are engaging with them to

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support all options to protect jobs and I would encourage the company to

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do all they can to avoid redundancies. In the unfortunate

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event that any redundancies proceed, we will make sure that the support

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is there to help workers affected and we will do everything we can to

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help in the circumstances. They are associate the Scottish Green party

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the remarks made about Alex Johnson, we have all enjoyed many debates

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with Alex over the years, enjoyed them not least when we disagreed,

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which, let's face it, was probably most of the time. But he always took

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that role in the spirit of good humour and respect and we will miss

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him. Can I ask the First Minister when the Cabinet will next meet. The

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Cabinet will next meet on Tuesday. In February this year, I described

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Donald Trump as an arrogant and racist bully, and as a dangerous

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extremist. To be honest, I could have said much worst. The First

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Minister said she would use more diplomatic than which but she

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thought her views on Donald Trump were not materially different than

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our own. Now we need to work out how to deal with the reality that he

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will be the US president without denying what kind of person he truly

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is. And as he feels his team with powerful economic elite, white

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nationalist misogynist homophobes and now climate deniers, we must

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consider how our relationship with the US is going to have to change.

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That's the First Minister agree that the appointment of a climate denier

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who has helped the fossil fuel industry to undermine climate change

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policy to lead the EPA is sand and dangerous -- sad and dangerous

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decision as Bernie Sanders put it, to the US policy and the global

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climate agenda? I think we should challenge the views of anybody who

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denies science around climate change and I think it is really important

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that in this parliament, where we have shown a lead in years gone by,

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continues to take a leap in arguing the case for the action that is

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necessary to tackle Chuck climate change. Patrick Harvie asked me when

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the Cabinet would next meet, when we last met on Tuesday, we had a

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substantial discussion about climate change and plans for further

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legislation to toughen targets around target emissions and I'm a

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change so we should continue to lead by example. And all of this -- all

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of us should stick up for our principles, but also seek to work at

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protecting the relationship thing the peoples of Scotland and the USA,

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it is an important and long standard relationship of culture, family ties

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and business and I will continue to do what I can to make sure that

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relationship goes from strength to strength. Thank you. I look forward,

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as I am sure we all do, to the result of that Cabinet discussion

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and the First Minister at the weekend gave a more detailed speech

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on climate policy than I can remember before, so we all look

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forward to more progress on that at domestic level. But that

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relationship with the US, which the First Minister rightly says is

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important, if it is going to be of value to us all, to them and to us,

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surely it has to be with those state and city governments which want the

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US to continue to be a progressive force on climate change, and who are

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willing to resist the dangerous policies of the Trump regime once it

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comes into power? There are a range of climate change initiatives,

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individual statement and networks of city mayor to our adverts for this

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agenda. What action is the Scottish Government taking to make contact

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with those people who will be genuinely useful allies in an agenda

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climate change around the world and helping them to resist the actions

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of the Trump government? We are active in working with other states

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and regions, in fact the committee states and regions, that is the

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accurate title, we work closely with them, this time last year I was

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taking part in discussions with that group and within that group Scotland

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is seen as a leader. I think Patrick Harvie makes an important point and

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an accurate point that in the United states, much of the action that is

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required to tackle climate change not coming from Federal government

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but from state governor. We were being addressed by Leonardo DiCaprio

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at a recent dinner, I had the opportunity to meet with the man who

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runs his climate change foundation but previously was the climate

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change adviser to Governor Schwarzenegger in California, and

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some of the works at California is doing around clean green energy

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should give all averse a lot of calls for -- all of us a lot of

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calls for optimism. We will continue to work with the American is

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ministration in terms of these and other issues, but also with states

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and other regions across Europe and the wider world as well and as we do

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so, we will continue to make sure that we are taking the action here

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that is as genuine credibility as a world leader. He was a mischievous,

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humorous and engaging man, and I know that the whole chamber will

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miss Alex Johnson. To ask the First Minister what issues will be

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discussed at the next meeting of Cabinet. Matters of importance to

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the people of Scotland. Singapore, Hong Kong, China, Japan, South

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Korea, Switzerland, Estonia, Canada, Netherlands, Finland, Denmark,

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Slovenia, Belgium, Germany, Ireland, Poland, Norway, Austria, Vietnam,

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New Zealand, Australia, Sweden, Russia, and France. Scotland used to

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have one of the best education systems in the world. Now we have

:27:25.:27:28.

dropped behind all of those countries. After ten years of SNP

:27:29.:27:35.

rule, we are not even as good as England any more. Scotland's

:27:36.:27:42.

children and teachers have still not had a proper explanation. So can the

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First Minister tell them what has gone wrong? I am not going to rise

:27:47.:27:52.

to the bait on the politics of this issue today because I think it is

:27:53.:27:57.

too important to all of us. As I said in response to an earlier

:27:58.:28:01.

question, I can point to much in Scottish education that shows

:28:02.:28:06.

improvement, whether that is exam passes, positive destinations or the

:28:07.:28:10.

evidence which is not yet going far or fast enough around the narrowing

:28:11.:28:17.

of the attainment gap. As I said, the outcome of the PISA survey is

:28:18.:28:24.

not good enough. I am not bitter right to the bait on the politics, I

:28:25.:28:27.

will continue to focus the government I need to take action on

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the position. That is why all of the action that I ran through in

:28:33.:28:36.

response to Ruth Davidson is so important, because that is what is

:28:37.:28:40.

going to make the difference in Scottish education. A -- out of what

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I talked about earlier, that is the most important thing, as well as

:28:47.:28:50.

keeping this government to account, it is the data which we will publish

:28:51.:28:55.

starting next week. For the first time we will publish data but us at

:28:56.:28:58.

local authority level but on a school by school basis. From next

:28:59.:29:04.

year, that will be informed by standardised assessment,

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standardised assessment that Willie Rennie has opposed at every turn so

:29:09.:29:12.

far in this chamber. So we will continue to focus on taking action

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that needs to be taken. We are serious about seeing these

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improvements made in the hope Parliament will get behind us

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because some of what we are going to do over the next period will be

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controversial. Some of that will run into real resistance and at that

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point I think it'll be interesting to see whether those the opposition

:29:29.:29:33.

parties are behind us on these things or not. You know when the

:29:34.:29:39.

First Minister accuses other parties of politics, it is because she had

:29:40.:29:43.

no answers and there have been no answers again today. Children have

:29:44.:29:49.

been denied the explanation as to why we are where we are. Why we are

:29:50.:29:55.

behind all of those countries. They deserve an explanation. And

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complacency has been losing out of ministers for a whole decade bust up

:29:59.:30:06.

Keith Brown said, we are now in an era when the performance of

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Scotland's peaches will be matched by the Scotland government. Angela

:30:12.:30:17.

Constance, the government's record is faster period. And the ever

:30:18.:30:22.

modest Microsoft live at a speech entitled Scottish education, from

:30:23.:30:26.

good to great. All of this while they provided over the worst result

:30:27.:30:32.

ever. While they sit round the Cabinet table blocking the

:30:33.:30:34.

transformational investment that our education needs. They preserve the

:30:35.:30:42.

reintroduction of Thatcherite league tables, the centralisation of

:30:43.:30:44.

education and 20,000 pages of guidance. So will the First Minister

:30:45.:30:52.

overrule all of these ministers, and invest the ?500 million for

:30:53.:30:57.

education in the budget next week as Mac?

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here is the real nub of the matter. Education is important. We are

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making sure investment gets to areas of greatest need. If Willie Rennie

:31:17.:31:26.

cheers to go and read the report, you will find in chapter eight this

:31:27.:31:33.

observation. While investment is important, it is not enough. The

:31:34.:31:39.

difference in PISA scorers in different countries is less to do

:31:40.:31:43.

with differences in investment, but more to do with differences in

:31:44.:31:46.

policies and practice. We will invest, but also make sure we carry

:31:47.:31:52.

forward the reforms to our school system required to be made. So far,

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every single one of these reforms we have brought forward, and we heard

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some of that they are, have been opposed by Willie Rennie. That proof

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of the pudding is in this. As we bring form the necessary reforms,

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will we have the support of this chamber? Will we have the support of

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opposition who are good at the rhetoric around this, but will we

:32:18.:32:25.

have the support when we do the tough things in education at need to

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be done. We will find out sooner rather than later. One of my

:32:30.:32:46.

constituents has been an outstanding leader of the scandal regarding the

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transvaginal review. There has been a replacement of one of the members

:33:04.:33:15.

of the review. Can the First Minister as sure as there has not

:33:16.:33:21.

been an interference? I received a letter from Shona Robinson, where

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she admitted that counterfeit material may well have been inserted

:33:30.:33:35.

into women, but the Scottish body have said that because I have been

:33:36.:33:40.

no adverse incidents so far, no further action is required. Surely

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it is not the Scottish Government's position is the fitting of

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counterfeit material is acceptable? This is an important issue. I credit

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the women who have bravely brought forward this issue. I am aware of

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the resignation of the cheer. An unfortunate development. I will look

:34:10.:34:13.

into these issues personally and I will write to Jackson Carlaw or have

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the Health Secretary do so, so we can give assurance this enquiry will

:34:18.:34:22.

conclude and whatever findings it publishes will be taken forward. The

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M H R A is an independent regulatory body. It is not under the

:34:33.:34:37.

responsibility of this Parliament. These are serious and painful issues

:34:38.:34:45.

for the women concerned. We want to ensure this enquiry concludes

:34:46.:34:48.

properly and any actions for the Scottish Government are taken

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forward, as people would expect. I will make sure we will respond in

:34:52.:34:58.

full with the detailed information that he is asking for. Contractors

:34:59.:35:06.

on the fourth crossing project are ripping off other tradesmen by up to

:35:07.:35:17.

?5 per hour. They are not paying holiday pay. Workers are being

:35:18.:35:23.

allowed on site without appropriate safety accreditation. Will the First

:35:24.:35:34.

Minister meet with me to discuss exploited workers. Those practices

:35:35.:35:39.

that are outlined, if they have been undertaken, are unacceptable and the

:35:40.:35:42.

Scottish Government would not tolerate that kind of behaviour. I

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am more than happy to ask the Cabinet said at a to discuss these

:35:47.:35:52.

matters with the member so we can take forward any action necessary.

:35:53.:35:57.

The Forth crossing bridge is nearing completion and it is an iconic

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structure. We all are huge debt of gratitude to every worker who has

:36:02.:36:08.

worked hard on that. We also will take seriously any allegations made.

:36:09.:36:18.

To ask the First Minister how much the Scottish Government has

:36:19.:36:24.

allocated to tackle fuel poverty and improve energy efficiency in this

:36:25.:36:29.

parliamentary session. ?130 million and by the end of this Parliament,

:36:30.:36:34.

we will have committed over ?1 billion to improve energy efficiency

:36:35.:36:41.

in Scotland's homes and improve fuel poverty. Figures are improving, but

:36:42.:36:50.

there is a great deal of work to be done. We have continually called on

:36:51.:36:59.

the UK Government to do more in response to above inflation energy

:37:00.:37:04.

price increases in recent years. I welcome those findings. Fuel poverty

:37:05.:37:09.

has fallen, partly due to the falling price of domestic fuels. But

:37:10.:37:15.

energy prices are higher in the Highlands and Islands, despite

:37:16.:37:19.

multiple requests for the UK Government to do anything about it.

:37:20.:37:24.

What more can the First Minister do to help low-income households with

:37:25.:37:30.

their fuel bills? There are particular issues in rural areas.

:37:31.:37:35.

The working group concluded recently. We will continue to take

:37:36.:37:42.

action regarding energy efficiency in our homes. We will continue to

:37:43.:37:46.

work with the energy companies to make sure there is a treatment for

:37:47.:37:51.

those on low income, for example I don't think it is acceptable some of

:37:52.:37:56.

the most vulnerable consumers on prepayment meters should be paying

:37:57.:38:02.

more. The Cabinet Secretary is convening a meeting next week. We

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will continue to take action across a range of issues, to make sure we

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continue to see the trend in the most recent figures will continue.

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Which is a reduction of people living in fuel poverty in Scotland.

:38:25.:38:32.

I met recently with the chair of the Scottish rural fuel poverty task

:38:33.:38:44.

force. He was keen to bring forward improvements for remote rural

:38:45.:38:48.

Scotland. What proportion of investments will the government be

:38:49.:38:54.

putting into tackling fuel poverty will be put into energy carer

:38:55.:39:01.

schemes? We will respond in full to that report at the start of next

:39:02.:39:05.

year. We will lay out the actions we will take regarding the

:39:06.:39:08.

recommendations. He raises an important issue and it is of course

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areas like that that we want to address with the funding we are

:39:13.:39:17.

committed to. More detail will be set out at the start of the year by

:39:18.:39:24.

the Communities Secretary. To ask the First Minister what the Scottish

:39:25.:39:28.

Government's position is on increasing sentences imposed by

:39:29.:39:33.

causing death by dangerous driving. Those who drive dangerously and kill

:39:34.:39:38.

people ruin lives, not just of those who die, but of their family and

:39:39.:39:43.

friends. The UK Government is currently consulting on whether

:39:44.:39:46.

courts should have increased power to deal with such offenders. Nothing

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can compensate for the loss of a family member, but increasing

:39:54.:39:57.

penalties may help discourage people from driving dangerously in the

:39:58.:40:03.

first place. This area of law is not devolved to Scotland. I would

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encourage all those with concerns to respond to the consultation. The

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four -- there is a campaign in a newspaper in Falkirk to end the

:40:17.:40:29.

loophole where I drink-driver often gets a shorter sentence where they

:40:30.:40:37.

flee the scene of the accident. It is a lesser offence to be charged

:40:38.:40:44.

with careless driving. It is important to raise awareness of the

:40:45.:40:48.

dangers associated with anyone driving a car dangerously. I think

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it is legitimate to campaign for tougher sentences. Sentencing is a

:40:54.:40:59.

matter for the courts. Some of the issues that the member has raised as

:41:00.:41:04.

part of the campaign from the newspaper in Falkirk are being

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looked at in the UK Government's consultation. I encourage everyone

:41:12.:41:14.

in this Parliament and across the country to respond to the

:41:15.:41:18.

consultation. I think there is a strong case to toughen up sentences

:41:19.:41:23.

available to the courts in these circumstances. I hope that is the

:41:24.:41:28.

direction the UK Government will take once they have considered the

:41:29.:41:34.

responses to the consultation. To ask the First Minister what the

:41:35.:41:38.

response is to the recent revised for cast for growth? It signals a

:41:39.:41:53.

weaker outcome for the Scottish economy than immediately prior to

:41:54.:41:59.

the EU referendum. This government's immediate focus is on seeking to

:42:00.:42:10.

safeguard Scotland's place in Europe and our position in the single

:42:11.:42:15.

market. Given that now every economic forecaster has revised

:42:16.:42:23.

their growth projections down words, will the First Minister order a

:42:24.:42:27.

review of the economic strategy published in March 2015 and the

:42:28.:42:32.

inward investment strategy published in March 2016, both of which were

:42:33.:42:37.

before Brexit, to reflect the challenging market conditions for

:42:38.:42:43.

our businesses? She raises reasonable points. We keep our

:42:44.:42:48.

economic strategy under review on an ongoing basis. Were looking

:42:49.:42:52.

particularly closely at some of the aspects of the economic strategy in

:42:53.:42:56.

light of Brexit and our budget next week will set out our plans to

:42:57.:43:00.

ensure Scotland is a competitive place to do business and we are

:43:01.:43:05.

focusing on growth in our economy. The skills and enterprise review is

:43:06.:43:09.

very much about making sure all of our agencies working in this area

:43:10.:43:14.

are working in a coordinated and comprehensive way to take forward

:43:15.:43:16.

the economic strategy. We will continue to review and keep

:43:17.:43:29.

under consideration that strategy, so we have the right measures in

:43:30.:43:31.

place. The economy is Secretary is happy to discuss this in more detail

:43:32.:43:34.

with members. How will making Scotland the most highly taxed part

:43:35.:43:40.

of the UK help our economy grow? I intend to make sure we have fair and

:43:41.:43:44.

balanced taxation for individuals and companies in this country. The

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Tories are imposing Brexit and deep cuts. We will balance all of these

:43:54.:43:58.

things in our budget. We will make sure we are focusing on growth, but

:43:59.:44:03.

also protecting our public services and the most vulnerable in our

:44:04.:44:08.

society because the Conservatives' policies are hitting the most

:44:09.:44:13.

vulnerable and making it harder to protect public services. Finance

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Secretary will set out our budget in the interests of Scotland in all of

:44:17.:44:23.

these areas. To ask the First Minister what action the Scottish

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Government can take in light of age Scotland's campaign to tackle

:44:26.:44:35.

loneliness over the festive season. It is especially heartbreaking to

:44:36.:44:40.

think at this time of year that many of our older neighbours will spend

:44:41.:44:44.

Christmas alone. On Monday of this week, I helped to launch the festive

:44:45.:44:51.

campaign. I would encourage everyone across Scotland to reach out to

:44:52.:44:56.

older people in their communities. We are setting up a national

:44:57.:45:07.

strategy to help tackle this issue. ?20 million currently supports seven

:45:08.:45:13.

projects regarding social isolation in older people. We cannot leave

:45:14.:45:18.

everything to government when personal neighbourly contact is

:45:19.:45:23.

important. Will the national strategy consider the isolation

:45:24.:45:26.

experienced by older people who may have a concessionary bus pass, but

:45:27.:45:30.

no transport let alone busses, particularly in rural areas, knowing

:45:31.:45:39.

that loneliness has serious implications for mental health,

:45:40.:45:43.

money spent here could be money saved in the NHS, as well as giving

:45:44.:45:49.

a greater quality of life. Will this have a place in that strategy?

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It is a pertinent point about the power of preventative spending, if

:45:55.:45:59.

we invest a small amount in these problems then we save money for the

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NHS, local authorities and others. She also raises important point

:46:05.:46:08.

about those living in rural areas, and for those living in rural areas

:46:09.:46:13.

those issues are often more acute. So in developing the national

:46:14.:46:17.

strategy that I spoke about, I can give them an assurance that we will

:46:18.:46:22.

consider all of those issues of cross government so we are as

:46:23.:46:27.

effectively as possible tackling those issues. That concludes First

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Minister's questions. A festive note for the conclusion

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but not particularly festive because it was dealing with loneliness at

:46:38.:46:44.

Christmas. Allegations about education and sexual abuse

:46:45.:46:51.

allegations in football. On education, both Ruth Davidson and

:46:52.:46:57.

Willie Rennie really went for it, and the 13 of the almost said, OK,

:46:58.:47:03.

hands up. -- and the First Minister almost said. This was bound to be

:47:04.:47:08.

the big issues for the opposition parties, the lowest rankings of all

:47:09.:47:13.

time in the PISA stats, international comparison of

:47:14.:47:16.

education level. And she had to take it on the chin. She had to say, we

:47:17.:47:21.

cannot defend it. She then went on to lay out some of the things she

:47:22.:47:25.

said the government had been doing to address these failings, because

:47:26.:47:31.

they reflect decisions for -- from two years ago. At that time they

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asked the lady for advice on what they -- the OED what they should be

:47:40.:47:46.

doing and they should get that. Ruth Davidson and Willie Rennie said,

:47:47.:47:52.

repeating quotes from previous education secretaries and Ben Foster

:47:53.:47:57.

is saying it is good to be great, -- saying it is going to be great.

:47:58.:48:01.

Willie Rennie said that misses had been using complacency for a decade.

:48:02.:48:07.

-- ministers had been losing complacency. He had a point but the

:48:08.:48:13.

reforms that have been bought in have been backed by the opposition

:48:14.:48:16.

parties. And wasn't that a change. You heard John Swinney shouting,

:48:17.:48:22.

that is a change, and he is the Education Secretary. She indicated

:48:23.:48:26.

that might change, she has got to put it on probation. If this is the

:48:27.:48:32.

problem, how are we sticking with it? I am stuck with the remark from

:48:33.:48:40.

the First Minister when she said, yes, investment is important but it

:48:41.:48:43.

does not necessarily define the difference in those international

:48:44.:48:48.

comparison scores. The SNP want to put more money into education but

:48:49.:48:51.

there is not as much as they would like. That is why she is defending

:48:52.:48:57.

not going down that road by saying that investment is important but not

:48:58.:49:00.

the only thing. We need to find out what is going wrong here and put it

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right. Let's turn to the subject of the historical child abuse

:49:06.:49:12.

allegations connected to football, the First Minister was in a

:49:13.:49:17.

difficult dilemma coming to an enquiry. She is, they are serious

:49:18.:49:20.

allegations and we do not know how half far-reaching these will be. The

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Scottish Government is already conducting an enquiry into

:49:27.:49:31.

historical allegations for children who have been in care. Some

:49:32.:49:38.

survivors say that that should be widened out to include other groups

:49:39.:49:50.

who have been abused, that could be football clubs. But Nicola Sturgeon

:49:51.:49:54.

said not all survivors want that. If you expand the enquiry, it could

:49:55.:49:58.

take a long time to finish its work and a lot of the people who were

:49:59.:50:01.

abuse are quite elderly, and they may not live to see the results of

:50:02.:50:06.

that though justice could be denied for them. It is a difficult

:50:07.:50:13.

question. She said it was a primarily criminal question, police

:50:14.:50:15.

enquiries, but she left open the positivity that she might return to

:50:16.:50:21.

it. Her main defence of not going forward is that it was in the hands

:50:22.:50:24.

of the police and we knew that would be the case. But the fact is, she

:50:25.:50:28.

then said if the results of all of these police enquiries show systemic

:50:29.:50:33.

abuse, then we are not ruling out looking into that in the future. She

:50:34.:50:37.

was trying to say the particular issue with children who were in

:50:38.:50:41.

care, extended slightly to say, while they were in care, abuse that

:50:42.:50:44.

happened elsewhere, not necessarily in that setting, that has already

:50:45.:50:49.

been extended by John Swinney, she was joined to say that was

:50:50.:50:51.

particular because it was institution. For those who are in

:50:52.:51:00.

loco parentis. It was indeed, and I guess these fit for clubs, they were

:51:01.:51:05.

not in a position but I don't think just saying that will ease the

:51:06.:51:11.

consultant -- is the consent of parents who have sent their sport --

:51:12.:51:19.

recruit children for training. It is the national sport of Scotland.

:51:20.:51:27.

Kezia Dugdale was affected and effective today, she said, please

:51:28.:51:31.

think again. There was an accident plea to include this kind of abuse,

:51:32.:51:37.

boys organisations, scouts, Boys' Brigade, anything in that context.

:51:38.:51:41.

It is not difficult to have sympathy with that but we have already seen

:51:42.:51:45.

what happens when enquiries get out of control. Nicola Sturgeon cited

:51:46.:51:51.

the initial example. Or the Edinburgh trams or whatever. --

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Nicola Sturgeon cited the English example. We will talk to you again

:51:56.:52:03.

in a second. I mentioned the role of opposition, and both of the

:52:04.:52:06.

principal opposition leaders this week have been setting out their

:52:07.:52:11.

stall as to how they see the status of Scotland changing. We had a

:52:12.:52:14.

speech from Ruth Davidson earlier in the week and yesterday we had Kezia

:52:15.:52:21.

Dugdale on the idea of extended the scope of our situation changed to

:52:22.:52:25.

include English regions. Let's hear from the two of them. This is an act

:52:26.:52:34.

of union to save the union, I believe in the United Kingdom, I

:52:35.:52:37.

think it is the most powerful force to redistribute wealth and that is

:52:38.:52:41.

the argument I have always made. This is a chance to reform it for a

:52:42.:52:44.

new age and I think we should grasp the asked unity. Scott asked that

:52:45.:52:50.

after being in the pocket of yes or no, they want progress and change

:52:51.:52:55.

and they want change and this gives us the opportunity to bring our

:52:56.:52:58.

country together and I'm proud to advocate it. We know in Scotland, if

:52:59.:53:02.

you do not pick a proper efforts to bring the two sides back together

:53:03.:53:06.

after a referendum, divisions can stay there. I do not want to see

:53:07.:53:12.

that happen the rest of the UK as well which is why I am putting in

:53:13.:53:18.

the plea today to see if people are saying yes or no to come back

:53:19.:53:22.

together. As a country, as we are talking about Brexit, that we are

:53:23.:53:26.

using civil language so people in the rest of Europe, the other 27

:53:27.:53:30.

nations that will be sitting across the table from negotiating our exit,

:53:31.:53:38.

understand our position as well. Ruth Davidson and Kezia Dugdale are

:53:39.:53:41.

both making speeches in London, with those comments. Kezia Dugdale first,

:53:42.:53:47.

she was previously attacking the First Minister on sticking to the

:53:48.:53:51.

day job, some felt she was doing that quite effectively, why shift

:53:52.:53:56.

onto this constitutional ground? Because Labour is in a quagmire over

:53:57.:54:00.

where it stands on the constitution. It now looks more clear, it looks as

:54:01.:54:04.

if at long last, and this speech apparently had Jeremy Corbyn's

:54:05.:54:09.

approval, Labour would now seem to be officially a federal party,

:54:10.:54:14.

supporting a federal... He is not quite there, he is endorsing the

:54:15.:54:18.

convention but not official policy. The thing is that, people's

:54:19.:54:23.

convention, that smells awfully like long grass to me. I think a lot of

:54:24.:54:28.

people will think that. It is a good idea, it buys time, stops her having

:54:29.:54:31.

to characterise herself as a Unionist which Labour hate. But will

:54:32.:54:36.

there be anything in it? The crisis is now with Brexit. Not a few years

:54:37.:54:43.

down the road. It was a strategy not immediate policy, strategy just to

:54:44.:54:46.

get a card in the game. It is interesting, I think Gordon Brown

:54:47.:54:50.

has backed what Kezia Dugdale is doing. He was doing this and

:54:51.:54:56.

endorsing this prior to misses Doug Bell. -- to Kezia Dugdale. He has

:54:57.:55:04.

been talking for two years about reforming the constitution of the

:55:05.:55:07.

UK, and study as powerful and influential as Gordon Brown has not

:55:08.:55:11.

really managed to take that further forward. I do not know if his

:55:12.:55:14.

intervention will make much difference to the plight of Scottish

:55:15.:55:19.

Labour. Let's talk to Ruth Davidson, she said that she was trying to put

:55:20.:55:23.

aside the differences and bring about unity, some people said, hang

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on a second, the problem was caught in the first place by the

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Conservatives. She would say that. This is the mess of her party's own

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making. This was a mess born of David Cameron's confident that he

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could have a referendum safe in the knowledge that Britain would not be

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mad enough to vote for Brexit, now they have. And surprise, surprise,

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the language has become inflamed, I do not think anyone should be

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surprised by that. There will have to be reconciliation after that and

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that is true, but whether the Conservatives are the people with

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the moral high ground here, I am not so sure. She's also train to stress

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the UK damaging to this, preserve the UK damaging. She is, and after

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2014 when Scotland voted to stay in the union, since then politicians

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have been calling on people to heal the divide but now we have had the

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Brexit referendum and massive differences between Scotland and

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England. And that is only heightening the differences north

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and south of the border. You have the tribute from all of the leaders

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from Alex Thomson, this was him taking the oath in 1999, he was 38,

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he was here constantly until his death tragically very recently, he

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thought he had a problem with gallstones a few months ago and it

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turned out to be terminal cancer. The Book of Remembrance has been

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opened. He was resolutely Tory, union and and Scottish, what did you

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make of him? I think someone who was very much on the right-hand side of

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his party, but he had a great sense of humour. He always conducted

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debates in that style. And I think that made him quite likeable, you

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could agree with him but it was likeable. You could disagree with

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him but it was done with a smile. He was a big personality, he will be

:57:53.:57:57.

missed. Indeed, a big person in Parliament, and talking about him

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being on the right, he was the sole Tory voice on the welfare reform

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committee and the Conservatives at Westminster were pushing through

:58:08.:58:11.

quite controversial welfare reforms. The SNP and Labour were attacking

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them for those and Alex Johnson was the Parthenon committee to fight the

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fight for the Conservatives and stand there corner, he did that with

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character and robustly but that is why we have had quite warm tributes

:58:31.:58:36.

to him. Very warm tributes, he was a man of the north-east, from Lewis

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critics given country, and I remember are lying, he was a man

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rooted in the land, but it was never really for him.

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Oh, Walt. You got to call me Walt. Mr Disney was my old man.

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Enjoy four BBC films this Christmas on BBC Two.

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