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All are welcome to the Scottish parliament here at Holyrood. Wide | :00:21. | :00:30. | |
range of controversies for a MSP is to question the First Minister. It | :00:31. | :00:38. | |
could be historical allegations regarding football. Let crossed to | :00:39. | :00:42. | |
the chamber. The personal literacy programme is | :00:43. | :01:03. | |
something the Cabinet sector a has said will be looked at. MSP is from | :01:04. | :01:13. | |
across the chamber are allowed to ask questions on a range of topics | :01:14. | :01:18. | |
before the First Minister takes questions from opposition leaders | :01:19. | :01:22. | |
and MSP is. In terms of questions to Nicola Sturgeon this week, we know | :01:23. | :01:28. | |
she will be asked about fuel poverty, death by dangerous driving, | :01:29. | :01:35. | |
about loneliness for older people and economic growth forecasting. | :01:36. | :01:38. | |
These are some of the topics which have been flagged up in advance. | :01:39. | :01:44. | |
Opposition leaders give very little away in the questions the register. | :01:45. | :01:49. | |
Ruth Davidson will ask what engagements the First Minister has | :01:50. | :01:53. | |
planned for the rest of the day. Cassia Dugdale will ask what | :01:54. | :02:00. | |
engagements she has planned for the rest of the week. There are some | :02:01. | :02:06. | |
visitors in the public gallery is. Including members of a group from a | :02:07. | :02:15. | |
school. There are some in the VIP gallery. To ask the First Minister | :02:16. | :02:22. | |
what engagements she has planned for the rest of the day. Engagements to | :02:23. | :02:37. | |
take forward its issues for the people of Scotland. Thank you for | :02:38. | :02:47. | |
your comments about Alex Johnson. He would not want me to stand up to | :02:48. | :02:50. | |
talk about him. He would want me to get stuck in to questioning the | :02:51. | :02:56. | |
record of this government. After a decade of Scottish control -- SNP | :02:57. | :03:12. | |
control over education, the worst results have been published. Who | :03:13. | :03:16. | |
does she blame? Us or the Labour Party? In Alex Johnson's passing, | :03:17. | :03:25. | |
this Parliament has missed one of its greatest personalities. All of | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
our thoughts are with his family. And indeed his colleagues. I take | :03:30. | :03:34. | |
responsibility on behalf of the Scottish Government for the | :03:35. | :03:37. | |
performance of Scottish education. If anyone thinks I will stand here | :03:38. | :03:44. | |
today and giving excuses, they are wrong. There is evidence I can cite | :03:45. | :03:48. | |
about Scottish education, but I will not do that because the results of | :03:49. | :03:50. | |
the survey earlier this week are not where I want us to be. They are not | :03:51. | :03:56. | |
good enough. I am determined we take the action that will lead to | :03:57. | :04:00. | |
improvement. The only thing I will say about them, and this is a | :04:01. | :04:06. | |
contextual point, and I say it simply because this survey was | :04:07. | :04:13. | |
carried out from a sample one and a half years ago. That was the same | :04:14. | :04:19. | |
time there was a survey to prompt the programme of reform. That is | :04:20. | :04:25. | |
firmly based on advice given to us by the OECD. I am determined we move | :04:26. | :04:34. | |
forward with reform and that will lead to the improvements in Scottish | :04:35. | :04:39. | |
education all of us want to see. The answer there was the same as the | :04:40. | :04:45. | |
answer always seems to be, don't worry, bear with us and it will all | :04:46. | :04:50. | |
seem to be fine. It is a stuck record and we have heard it before. | :04:51. | :04:57. | |
Fiona Hyslop in 2009, we are determined to release that train. | :04:58. | :05:02. | |
The Minister for learning in 2013, I am confident we will see continued | :05:03. | :05:08. | |
progress in future years. Last year, Angela Constance, regarding | :05:09. | :05:11. | |
following literacy standards, promising she was the one who would | :05:12. | :05:19. | |
sort things out. That went well. We have had ten years worth of promises | :05:20. | :05:30. | |
from several SNP Education Secretary is. Is it a pass or fail? We have a | :05:31. | :05:37. | |
record number of exam passes in Scottish education. That is a | :05:38. | :05:42. | |
statement of fact. We have a higher number of young people going into | :05:43. | :05:46. | |
positive destinations than was the case previously. I come back to the | :05:47. | :05:50. | |
point I made earlier. The survey results are not good enough. I want | :05:51. | :06:06. | |
to see them published at. The report that was published told us to focus | :06:07. | :06:10. | |
on a number of things. It said we had to focus on closing the | :06:11. | :06:19. | |
attainment gap. It told us to put in place a measurement system, so we | :06:20. | :06:24. | |
established the National improvement framework. Initial beta at school | :06:25. | :06:30. | |
level will be published next week. From next year, it will be informed | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
by new standardised assessments. It told us to simplify the curriculum. | :06:36. | :06:41. | |
John Swinney has taken action to reduce teacher workload, strip away | :06:42. | :06:44. | |
bureaucracy, and allow them to focus on what you're doing. Is said that | :06:45. | :06:50. | |
schools at the heart of the system, so the governance review is looking | :06:51. | :06:54. | |
at how we empower schools. And lastly improve leadership. We are | :06:55. | :07:02. | |
taking forward a new programme of developing new headteachers. These | :07:03. | :07:04. | |
are hard, concrete, tangible actions. I know the opposition will | :07:05. | :07:10. | |
want to criticise. I can have no complaint about that. What I think | :07:11. | :07:15. | |
is most important now is we all get behind these reforms. These reforms | :07:16. | :07:19. | |
that will lead to the improvements we want to see in Scottish | :07:20. | :07:27. | |
education. Not even an attempt from the First Minister to defend her | :07:28. | :07:32. | |
ministers' performance. Not even an attempt to. We're been warning about | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
the state of our education system for years. She talks of a governance | :07:38. | :07:42. | |
review to come, but we await the details. Given the evidence of this | :07:43. | :07:47. | |
week, I think it has to go deeper. The single biggest education reform | :07:48. | :07:51. | |
under this government has been curriculum for excellence. Nobody | :07:52. | :07:54. | |
here can simply brushed aside the fact that since it has come in, | :07:55. | :07:59. | |
standards have fallen. I am telling the First Minister today that our | :08:00. | :08:04. | |
ongoing support for curriculum for excellence cannot be taken for | :08:05. | :08:08. | |
granted. I believe this entire project should be put on probation. | :08:09. | :08:11. | |
There is a simple question I ask in all sincerity. If standards are | :08:12. | :08:28. | |
going down because of it, why are we sticking by it? The principles | :08:29. | :08:31. | |
behind the curriculum for excellence are right. Unanimous agreement | :08:32. | :08:35. | |
within the Parliament it is the right way, as it is in the teaching | :08:36. | :08:45. | |
profession. These other words of Liz Smith on seventh December. Just | :08:46. | :08:51. | |
yesterday. I believe curriculum for excellence is the right way forward. | :08:52. | :08:57. | |
Ruth Davidson has rightly and understandably quoted today the PISA | :08:58. | :09:05. | |
survey. Carried out by the OECD. We ask the very same organisation to | :09:06. | :09:08. | |
review curriculum for excellence and they have says it is the right thing | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
to do, but they have given us advice I have narrated in my previous | :09:13. | :09:15. | |
answer about how we improve standards in our school. That is | :09:16. | :09:30. | |
what we will continue to do. That was quite a selective summary of | :09:31. | :09:35. | |
what the First Minister wants us to believe the OECD report says. Let me | :09:36. | :09:40. | |
read out what it actually says. It says, we emphasise that this summary | :09:41. | :09:46. | |
is not an evaluation of Curriculum for Excellence itself and indeed the | :09:47. | :09:51. | |
evidence is not available for such an evaluation. Now, we have had all | :09:52. | :09:57. | |
the while from this government bland platitudes. All the while those | :09:58. | :10:00. | |
platitudes have been coming, standards have gone down. We have | :10:01. | :10:04. | |
gone backwards in Reading, backwards and science, backwards in maths and | :10:05. | :10:11. | |
this week the SNP, the First Minister's colleagues, told us that | :10:12. | :10:13. | |
despite all the challenges we face right now, what would be good for | :10:14. | :10:19. | |
Scotland is a constitutional crisis. It's not another constitutional | :10:20. | :10:23. | |
crisis we need, it is a government that faces up to its failure is an | :10:24. | :10:28. | |
tackles them head on. I asked the First Minister, what is more | :10:29. | :10:33. | |
important? Picking yet another fight over the constitution, or picking a | :10:34. | :10:39. | |
fight to improve our schools? I have to say, it may have escaped Ruth | :10:40. | :10:45. | |
Davidson's notice, but the entire UK faces a constitutional crisis right | :10:46. | :10:50. | |
now, being played out in the Supreme Court this very day. It is a | :10:51. | :10:56. | |
constitutional crisis created by the European obsession of the | :10:57. | :11:02. | |
Conservatives, the Brexit obsession. I will leave Ruth Davidson to the | :11:03. | :11:08. | |
politics today. I want to get back to the important matter of Scottish | :11:09. | :11:12. | |
education. I notice she didn't comment on the quote from Liz Smith | :11:13. | :11:17. | |
earlier this week, where she said the principles behind Curriculum for | :11:18. | :11:20. | |
Excellence are absolutely right. That is the view of the Tory | :11:21. | :11:25. | |
education spokesperson. It is also my view and I think it is the view | :11:26. | :11:29. | |
of most people across this chamber. What we now need to do is focus on | :11:30. | :11:35. | |
implementing the recommendations of the OECD. Making sure we invest, as | :11:36. | :11:40. | |
we are doing silk through the attainment fund, in raising | :11:41. | :11:44. | |
attainment. Making sure we have more data available at school level about | :11:45. | :11:48. | |
the performance of our schools. Making sure we take away bureaucracy | :11:49. | :11:53. | |
and invest in educational leadership. These are the hard | :11:54. | :11:59. | |
actions this government will take forward. That is what parents across | :12:00. | :12:02. | |
this country have a right to expect us to do and we will do it. This is | :12:03. | :12:12. | |
a sombre day for Parliament. On behalf of Scottish Labour, let me | :12:13. | :12:17. | |
extend our condolences to the family and friends of Alex Johnson. Are | :12:18. | :12:22. | |
proud and devoted family man, a great character and was respected | :12:23. | :12:28. | |
widely across this chamber. Can ask the First Minister what engagements | :12:29. | :12:32. | |
she has planned for the rest of the week. Engagements to take forward | :12:33. | :12:39. | |
the government's plans for Scotland. Thousands of children attend | :12:40. | :12:44. | |
football training stations every week. Young boys and girls wanting | :12:45. | :12:49. | |
to emulate their sporting heroes. But football has become enmeshed in | :12:50. | :12:58. | |
society's shame. Once again, people who were trusted to care for our | :12:59. | :13:04. | |
children have been found to be abusing. People have come forward | :13:05. | :13:16. | |
with the courage to speak of their abuse. Does she believe these abused | :13:17. | :13:29. | |
people should have justice? Of course I do. These allegations | :13:30. | :13:35. | |
sicken us. Enquiries must take place with the police. In order that | :13:36. | :13:39. | |
anyone who has been the victim of abuse gets the justice they saw | :13:40. | :13:44. | |
rightly deserve. What is being alleged is criminal behaviour of the | :13:45. | :13:51. | |
most serious kind. The NSPCC have established a dedicated advice line | :13:52. | :13:59. | |
for anyone with concerns relating to abuse in football. All agencies are | :14:00. | :14:03. | |
committed to working with the police, to ensure any allegations | :14:04. | :14:07. | |
are investigated properly and thoroughly. Anyone who has suffered | :14:08. | :14:16. | |
abuse should get access to justice. We are all horrified by child sex | :14:17. | :14:26. | |
abuse. But this did happen to ex-footballers. Yet we will not be | :14:27. | :14:30. | |
able to bring their cases to the Scottish Child abuse enquiry because | :14:31. | :14:33. | |
they were not in care when they were abuse. This is true for all those | :14:34. | :14:38. | |
who suffered abuse in youth clubs, parishes or other sports clubs. | :14:39. | :14:43. | |
Survivors groups have asked that the enquiry's remit be extended to all | :14:44. | :14:48. | |
situations where a duty of care existed. Labour has backed that | :14:49. | :14:53. | |
call. The growing tide of revelations from footballers adds to | :14:54. | :14:59. | |
that demand. Will the First Minister reconsider the enquiry's remit? The | :15:00. | :15:05. | |
enquiries that must take place now into the allegations that are being | :15:06. | :15:10. | |
made about football or first and foremost police enquiries. What is | :15:11. | :15:14. | |
being alleged is criminal behaviour. The police must investigate | :15:15. | :15:17. | |
thoroughly and robust play. If I could turn to the question about the | :15:18. | :15:23. | |
public enquiry into child abuse, I of course understand the motivations | :15:24. | :15:27. | |
of those who now call for the remit of that enquiry to be extended. | :15:28. | :15:33. | |
Kezia Dugdale is right to see some survivors groups have called for | :15:34. | :15:36. | |
that happen. Others have said the do not wish to see it extended in that | :15:37. | :15:41. | |
way. The government has given this issue the most careful | :15:42. | :15:46. | |
consideration. The enquiry which is already the most wide-ranging public | :15:47. | :15:52. | |
enquiry ever held in Scotland, deliberately focuses on in care of | :15:53. | :15:56. | |
abuse that took place in institutions or other settings that | :15:57. | :16:00. | |
had legal responsibility for the long-term care of children. In place | :16:01. | :16:07. | |
of their parents. To widen the remit of that enquiry would mean that it | :16:08. | :16:13. | |
would take perhaps many many years longer to conclude its | :16:14. | :16:17. | |
investigations and would risk becoming completely unwieldy. And we | :16:18. | :16:21. | |
would be at risk, I think, of breaking our word to the survivors | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
of in care abuse. My view is we should allow the enquiry to get on | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
with its job and we should allow the police to get on a third job of | :16:31. | :16:36. | |
investigating allegations of abuse in football. As the police enquiries | :16:37. | :16:39. | |
take their course, if it does emerge there are wider systemic concerns to | :16:40. | :16:44. | |
be addressed, we would consider very seriously how that should be taken | :16:45. | :16:46. | |
forward This is about a fundamental | :16:47. | :16:58. | |
principle and she should look to Australia to see how it can be done. | :16:59. | :17:02. | |
Survivors of child abuse deserve justice, and the wait for an enquiry | :17:03. | :17:07. | |
has already been too long. This enquiry holds out the promise of | :17:08. | :17:11. | |
justice, but in restricting just who and what will be investigated, it | :17:12. | :17:15. | |
will deny their justice. As it currently stands, the enquiry is | :17:16. | :17:21. | |
excluding the vast judge of people who were abused. First sinister, how | :17:22. | :17:25. | |
can that be right? Please, think about. -- First Minister, how cannot | :17:26. | :17:32. | |
be right? Think again. The government has considered this | :17:33. | :17:37. | |
carefully, John Swinney considered this matter and it is something that | :17:38. | :17:46. | |
it sticks in three, we have to have an enquiry that can quickly give | :17:47. | :17:51. | |
survivors the answer is that they want to ensure that we want to learn | :17:52. | :17:56. | |
the lessons that they want us to learn so we can see that that kind | :17:57. | :18:00. | |
of in care abuse will never be allowed to happen again in Scotland. | :18:01. | :18:04. | |
We should look at experience in other countries and also the | :18:05. | :18:07. | |
experience in England about what could happen if the remote becomes | :18:08. | :18:12. | |
too unwieldy. -- the remit. We have to take these issues into account | :18:13. | :18:16. | |
and come to a balanced conclusion and that is what we are seeking to | :18:17. | :18:22. | |
do. Any abuse, no matter who is the victim and where that abuse occurs, | :18:23. | :18:26. | |
is serious and must be properly and fully investigated. There is a | :18:27. | :18:31. | |
distinction, I think, in terms of in care abuse where the institution | :18:32. | :18:35. | |
where the abuse happens was in place of the parent of the child and had | :18:36. | :18:39. | |
legal responsibility for the long-term care of the child. We will | :18:40. | :18:44. | |
continue to take these issues very seriously. And through all of our | :18:45. | :18:48. | |
actions, whether through public enquiry or through the action that | :18:49. | :18:52. | |
we support in terms of the SFA action and the action police will | :18:53. | :18:56. | |
take to take that make sure that anybody who was a victim of abuse | :18:57. | :19:03. | |
gets access to justice because they deserve justice. Ask the First | :19:04. | :19:10. | |
Minister what discussions the Scottish Government has had with the | :19:11. | :19:17. | |
Greater Glasgow health board moving staff in my constituency which could | :19:18. | :19:23. | |
you to eight closure -- lead to a closure of a minor injury unit in | :19:24. | :19:30. | |
the west of Glasgow so constituents would have to go to the north or | :19:31. | :19:34. | |
south. The Health Secretary had discussion this morning with the | :19:35. | :19:37. | |
chair of the health board about this, the health board have | :19:38. | :19:39. | |
announced that they plan to move some staff from the minor injury | :19:40. | :19:44. | |
unit at Yorkhill to Queen Elizabeth as part of their overall plans for | :19:45. | :19:48. | |
the winter period. The Health Secretary has spoken to the chair of | :19:49. | :19:52. | |
the board this morning and he has given assurances that that move is | :19:53. | :19:56. | |
temporary, to make sure that they are making better use of the expert | :19:57. | :20:01. | |
nursing staff to help as many people as possible. The Health Secretary | :20:02. | :20:04. | |
would be more than happy to discuss the issue in more detail with the | :20:05. | :20:08. | |
member and have further discussions as required with the health board. | :20:09. | :20:15. | |
To ask the First Minister what her response is to be an announcement on | :20:16. | :20:21. | |
Tuesday of 270 job losses at a company in Romford chair, and how | :20:22. | :20:26. | |
the government will -- Renfrew Shire, as these announcements follow | :20:27. | :20:32. | |
recent announcement that other firms are moving out of Paisley? Because | :20:33. | :20:39. | |
this -- the business ministers met with members recently and are | :20:40. | :20:44. | |
convening a discussion in February to discuss the best way forward | :20:45. | :20:47. | |
following the announcement, including the option of a task force | :20:48. | :20:50. | |
which I discussed with Renfrewshire Council. In terms of Babcock, we are | :20:51. | :21:00. | |
concerned to hear that they intend to consult on job losses, we know it | :21:01. | :21:06. | |
is a difficult time for the workers at that site, Scottish pride are | :21:07. | :21:12. | |
engaging with them -- Scottish enterprise are engaging with them to | :21:13. | :21:16. | |
support all options to protect jobs and I would encourage the company to | :21:17. | :21:19. | |
do all they can to avoid redundancies. In the unfortunate | :21:20. | :21:22. | |
event that any redundancies proceed, we will make sure that the support | :21:23. | :21:28. | |
is there to help workers affected and we will do everything we can to | :21:29. | :21:35. | |
help in the circumstances. They are associate the Scottish Green party | :21:36. | :21:41. | |
the remarks made about Alex Johnson, we have all enjoyed many debates | :21:42. | :21:44. | |
with Alex over the years, enjoyed them not least when we disagreed, | :21:45. | :21:48. | |
which, let's face it, was probably most of the time. But he always took | :21:49. | :21:53. | |
that role in the spirit of good humour and respect and we will miss | :21:54. | :21:57. | |
him. Can I ask the First Minister when the Cabinet will next meet. The | :21:58. | :22:03. | |
Cabinet will next meet on Tuesday. In February this year, I described | :22:04. | :22:09. | |
Donald Trump as an arrogant and racist bully, and as a dangerous | :22:10. | :22:13. | |
extremist. To be honest, I could have said much worst. The First | :22:14. | :22:19. | |
Minister said she would use more diplomatic than which but she | :22:20. | :22:23. | |
thought her views on Donald Trump were not materially different than | :22:24. | :22:28. | |
our own. Now we need to work out how to deal with the reality that he | :22:29. | :22:31. | |
will be the US president without denying what kind of person he truly | :22:32. | :22:36. | |
is. And as he feels his team with powerful economic elite, white | :22:37. | :22:41. | |
nationalist misogynist homophobes and now climate deniers, we must | :22:42. | :22:45. | |
consider how our relationship with the US is going to have to change. | :22:46. | :22:51. | |
That's the First Minister agree that the appointment of a climate denier | :22:52. | :22:54. | |
who has helped the fossil fuel industry to undermine climate change | :22:55. | :23:03. | |
policy to lead the EPA is sand and dangerous -- sad and dangerous | :23:04. | :23:06. | |
decision as Bernie Sanders put it, to the US policy and the global | :23:07. | :23:10. | |
climate agenda? I think we should challenge the views of anybody who | :23:11. | :23:16. | |
denies science around climate change and I think it is really important | :23:17. | :23:20. | |
that in this parliament, where we have shown a lead in years gone by, | :23:21. | :23:24. | |
continues to take a leap in arguing the case for the action that is | :23:25. | :23:27. | |
necessary to tackle Chuck climate change. Patrick Harvie asked me when | :23:28. | :23:36. | |
the Cabinet would next meet, when we last met on Tuesday, we had a | :23:37. | :23:39. | |
substantial discussion about climate change and plans for further | :23:40. | :23:42. | |
legislation to toughen targets around target emissions and I'm a | :23:43. | :23:46. | |
change so we should continue to lead by example. And all of this -- all | :23:47. | :23:53. | |
of us should stick up for our principles, but also seek to work at | :23:54. | :23:59. | |
protecting the relationship thing the peoples of Scotland and the USA, | :24:00. | :24:03. | |
it is an important and long standard relationship of culture, family ties | :24:04. | :24:08. | |
and business and I will continue to do what I can to make sure that | :24:09. | :24:11. | |
relationship goes from strength to strength. Thank you. I look forward, | :24:12. | :24:17. | |
as I am sure we all do, to the result of that Cabinet discussion | :24:18. | :24:21. | |
and the First Minister at the weekend gave a more detailed speech | :24:22. | :24:25. | |
on climate policy than I can remember before, so we all look | :24:26. | :24:29. | |
forward to more progress on that at domestic level. But that | :24:30. | :24:34. | |
relationship with the US, which the First Minister rightly says is | :24:35. | :24:37. | |
important, if it is going to be of value to us all, to them and to us, | :24:38. | :24:43. | |
surely it has to be with those state and city governments which want the | :24:44. | :24:48. | |
US to continue to be a progressive force on climate change, and who are | :24:49. | :24:52. | |
willing to resist the dangerous policies of the Trump regime once it | :24:53. | :24:57. | |
comes into power? There are a range of climate change initiatives, | :24:58. | :25:01. | |
individual statement and networks of city mayor to our adverts for this | :25:02. | :25:07. | |
agenda. What action is the Scottish Government taking to make contact | :25:08. | :25:10. | |
with those people who will be genuinely useful allies in an agenda | :25:11. | :25:13. | |
climate change around the world and helping them to resist the actions | :25:14. | :25:19. | |
of the Trump government? We are active in working with other states | :25:20. | :25:23. | |
and regions, in fact the committee states and regions, that is the | :25:24. | :25:27. | |
accurate title, we work closely with them, this time last year I was | :25:28. | :25:34. | |
taking part in discussions with that group and within that group Scotland | :25:35. | :25:39. | |
is seen as a leader. I think Patrick Harvie makes an important point and | :25:40. | :25:42. | |
an accurate point that in the United states, much of the action that is | :25:43. | :25:46. | |
required to tackle climate change not coming from Federal government | :25:47. | :25:56. | |
but from state governor. We were being addressed by Leonardo DiCaprio | :25:57. | :25:59. | |
at a recent dinner, I had the opportunity to meet with the man who | :26:00. | :26:04. | |
runs his climate change foundation but previously was the climate | :26:05. | :26:08. | |
change adviser to Governor Schwarzenegger in California, and | :26:09. | :26:11. | |
some of the works at California is doing around clean green energy | :26:12. | :26:17. | |
should give all averse a lot of calls for -- all of us a lot of | :26:18. | :26:21. | |
calls for optimism. We will continue to work with the American is | :26:22. | :26:24. | |
ministration in terms of these and other issues, but also with states | :26:25. | :26:30. | |
and other regions across Europe and the wider world as well and as we do | :26:31. | :26:34. | |
so, we will continue to make sure that we are taking the action here | :26:35. | :26:38. | |
that is as genuine credibility as a world leader. He was a mischievous, | :26:39. | :26:46. | |
humorous and engaging man, and I know that the whole chamber will | :26:47. | :26:50. | |
miss Alex Johnson. To ask the First Minister what issues will be | :26:51. | :26:55. | |
discussed at the next meeting of Cabinet. Matters of importance to | :26:56. | :27:01. | |
the people of Scotland. Singapore, Hong Kong, China, Japan, South | :27:02. | :27:07. | |
Korea, Switzerland, Estonia, Canada, Netherlands, Finland, Denmark, | :27:08. | :27:12. | |
Slovenia, Belgium, Germany, Ireland, Poland, Norway, Austria, Vietnam, | :27:13. | :27:16. | |
New Zealand, Australia, Sweden, Russia, and France. Scotland used to | :27:17. | :27:24. | |
have one of the best education systems in the world. Now we have | :27:25. | :27:28. | |
dropped behind all of those countries. After ten years of SNP | :27:29. | :27:35. | |
rule, we are not even as good as England any more. Scotland's | :27:36. | :27:42. | |
children and teachers have still not had a proper explanation. So can the | :27:43. | :27:46. | |
First Minister tell them what has gone wrong? I am not going to rise | :27:47. | :27:52. | |
to the bait on the politics of this issue today because I think it is | :27:53. | :27:57. | |
too important to all of us. As I said in response to an earlier | :27:58. | :28:01. | |
question, I can point to much in Scottish education that shows | :28:02. | :28:06. | |
improvement, whether that is exam passes, positive destinations or the | :28:07. | :28:10. | |
evidence which is not yet going far or fast enough around the narrowing | :28:11. | :28:17. | |
of the attainment gap. As I said, the outcome of the PISA survey is | :28:18. | :28:24. | |
not good enough. I am not bitter right to the bait on the politics, I | :28:25. | :28:27. | |
will continue to focus the government I need to take action on | :28:28. | :28:32. | |
the position. That is why all of the action that I ran through in | :28:33. | :28:36. | |
response to Ruth Davidson is so important, because that is what is | :28:37. | :28:40. | |
going to make the difference in Scottish education. A -- out of what | :28:41. | :28:46. | |
I talked about earlier, that is the most important thing, as well as | :28:47. | :28:50. | |
keeping this government to account, it is the data which we will publish | :28:51. | :28:55. | |
starting next week. For the first time we will publish data but us at | :28:56. | :28:58. | |
local authority level but on a school by school basis. From next | :28:59. | :29:04. | |
year, that will be informed by standardised assessment, | :29:05. | :29:08. | |
standardised assessment that Willie Rennie has opposed at every turn so | :29:09. | :29:12. | |
far in this chamber. So we will continue to focus on taking action | :29:13. | :29:15. | |
that needs to be taken. We are serious about seeing these | :29:16. | :29:18. | |
improvements made in the hope Parliament will get behind us | :29:19. | :29:22. | |
because some of what we are going to do over the next period will be | :29:23. | :29:25. | |
controversial. Some of that will run into real resistance and at that | :29:26. | :29:28. | |
point I think it'll be interesting to see whether those the opposition | :29:29. | :29:33. | |
parties are behind us on these things or not. You know when the | :29:34. | :29:39. | |
First Minister accuses other parties of politics, it is because she had | :29:40. | :29:43. | |
no answers and there have been no answers again today. Children have | :29:44. | :29:49. | |
been denied the explanation as to why we are where we are. Why we are | :29:50. | :29:55. | |
behind all of those countries. They deserve an explanation. And | :29:56. | :29:58. | |
complacency has been losing out of ministers for a whole decade bust up | :29:59. | :30:06. | |
Keith Brown said, we are now in an era when the performance of | :30:07. | :30:11. | |
Scotland's peaches will be matched by the Scotland government. Angela | :30:12. | :30:17. | |
Constance, the government's record is faster period. And the ever | :30:18. | :30:22. | |
modest Microsoft live at a speech entitled Scottish education, from | :30:23. | :30:26. | |
good to great. All of this while they provided over the worst result | :30:27. | :30:32. | |
ever. While they sit round the Cabinet table blocking the | :30:33. | :30:34. | |
transformational investment that our education needs. They preserve the | :30:35. | :30:42. | |
reintroduction of Thatcherite league tables, the centralisation of | :30:43. | :30:44. | |
education and 20,000 pages of guidance. So will the First Minister | :30:45. | :30:52. | |
overrule all of these ministers, and invest the ?500 million for | :30:53. | :30:57. | |
education in the budget next week as Mac? | :30:58. | :31:03. | |
here is the real nub of the matter. Education is important. We are | :31:04. | :31:16. | |
making sure investment gets to areas of greatest need. If Willie Rennie | :31:17. | :31:26. | |
cheers to go and read the report, you will find in chapter eight this | :31:27. | :31:33. | |
observation. While investment is important, it is not enough. The | :31:34. | :31:39. | |
difference in PISA scorers in different countries is less to do | :31:40. | :31:43. | |
with differences in investment, but more to do with differences in | :31:44. | :31:46. | |
policies and practice. We will invest, but also make sure we carry | :31:47. | :31:52. | |
forward the reforms to our school system required to be made. So far, | :31:53. | :31:58. | |
every single one of these reforms we have brought forward, and we heard | :31:59. | :32:03. | |
some of that they are, have been opposed by Willie Rennie. That proof | :32:04. | :32:09. | |
of the pudding is in this. As we bring form the necessary reforms, | :32:10. | :32:13. | |
will we have the support of this chamber? Will we have the support of | :32:14. | :32:17. | |
opposition who are good at the rhetoric around this, but will we | :32:18. | :32:25. | |
have the support when we do the tough things in education at need to | :32:26. | :32:29. | |
be done. We will find out sooner rather than later. One of my | :32:30. | :32:46. | |
constituents has been an outstanding leader of the scandal regarding the | :32:47. | :33:03. | |
transvaginal review. There has been a replacement of one of the members | :33:04. | :33:15. | |
of the review. Can the First Minister as sure as there has not | :33:16. | :33:21. | |
been an interference? I received a letter from Shona Robinson, where | :33:22. | :33:29. | |
she admitted that counterfeit material may well have been inserted | :33:30. | :33:35. | |
into women, but the Scottish body have said that because I have been | :33:36. | :33:40. | |
no adverse incidents so far, no further action is required. Surely | :33:41. | :33:45. | |
it is not the Scottish Government's position is the fitting of | :33:46. | :33:49. | |
counterfeit material is acceptable? This is an important issue. I credit | :33:50. | :34:03. | |
the women who have bravely brought forward this issue. I am aware of | :34:04. | :34:09. | |
the resignation of the cheer. An unfortunate development. I will look | :34:10. | :34:13. | |
into these issues personally and I will write to Jackson Carlaw or have | :34:14. | :34:17. | |
the Health Secretary do so, so we can give assurance this enquiry will | :34:18. | :34:22. | |
conclude and whatever findings it publishes will be taken forward. The | :34:23. | :34:32. | |
M H R A is an independent regulatory body. It is not under the | :34:33. | :34:37. | |
responsibility of this Parliament. These are serious and painful issues | :34:38. | :34:45. | |
for the women concerned. We want to ensure this enquiry concludes | :34:46. | :34:48. | |
properly and any actions for the Scottish Government are taken | :34:49. | :34:51. | |
forward, as people would expect. I will make sure we will respond in | :34:52. | :34:58. | |
full with the detailed information that he is asking for. Contractors | :34:59. | :35:06. | |
on the fourth crossing project are ripping off other tradesmen by up to | :35:07. | :35:17. | |
?5 per hour. They are not paying holiday pay. Workers are being | :35:18. | :35:23. | |
allowed on site without appropriate safety accreditation. Will the First | :35:24. | :35:34. | |
Minister meet with me to discuss exploited workers. Those practices | :35:35. | :35:39. | |
that are outlined, if they have been undertaken, are unacceptable and the | :35:40. | :35:42. | |
Scottish Government would not tolerate that kind of behaviour. I | :35:43. | :35:46. | |
am more than happy to ask the Cabinet said at a to discuss these | :35:47. | :35:52. | |
matters with the member so we can take forward any action necessary. | :35:53. | :35:57. | |
The Forth crossing bridge is nearing completion and it is an iconic | :35:58. | :36:01. | |
structure. We all are huge debt of gratitude to every worker who has | :36:02. | :36:08. | |
worked hard on that. We also will take seriously any allegations made. | :36:09. | :36:18. | |
To ask the First Minister how much the Scottish Government has | :36:19. | :36:24. | |
allocated to tackle fuel poverty and improve energy efficiency in this | :36:25. | :36:29. | |
parliamentary session. ?130 million and by the end of this Parliament, | :36:30. | :36:34. | |
we will have committed over ?1 billion to improve energy efficiency | :36:35. | :36:41. | |
in Scotland's homes and improve fuel poverty. Figures are improving, but | :36:42. | :36:50. | |
there is a great deal of work to be done. We have continually called on | :36:51. | :36:59. | |
the UK Government to do more in response to above inflation energy | :37:00. | :37:04. | |
price increases in recent years. I welcome those findings. Fuel poverty | :37:05. | :37:09. | |
has fallen, partly due to the falling price of domestic fuels. But | :37:10. | :37:15. | |
energy prices are higher in the Highlands and Islands, despite | :37:16. | :37:19. | |
multiple requests for the UK Government to do anything about it. | :37:20. | :37:24. | |
What more can the First Minister do to help low-income households with | :37:25. | :37:30. | |
their fuel bills? There are particular issues in rural areas. | :37:31. | :37:35. | |
The working group concluded recently. We will continue to take | :37:36. | :37:42. | |
action regarding energy efficiency in our homes. We will continue to | :37:43. | :37:46. | |
work with the energy companies to make sure there is a treatment for | :37:47. | :37:51. | |
those on low income, for example I don't think it is acceptable some of | :37:52. | :37:56. | |
the most vulnerable consumers on prepayment meters should be paying | :37:57. | :38:02. | |
more. The Cabinet Secretary is convening a meeting next week. We | :38:03. | :38:12. | |
will continue to take action across a range of issues, to make sure we | :38:13. | :38:17. | |
continue to see the trend in the most recent figures will continue. | :38:18. | :38:24. | |
Which is a reduction of people living in fuel poverty in Scotland. | :38:25. | :38:32. | |
I met recently with the chair of the Scottish rural fuel poverty task | :38:33. | :38:44. | |
force. He was keen to bring forward improvements for remote rural | :38:45. | :38:48. | |
Scotland. What proportion of investments will the government be | :38:49. | :38:54. | |
putting into tackling fuel poverty will be put into energy carer | :38:55. | :39:01. | |
schemes? We will respond in full to that report at the start of next | :39:02. | :39:05. | |
year. We will lay out the actions we will take regarding the | :39:06. | :39:08. | |
recommendations. He raises an important issue and it is of course | :39:09. | :39:12. | |
areas like that that we want to address with the funding we are | :39:13. | :39:17. | |
committed to. More detail will be set out at the start of the year by | :39:18. | :39:24. | |
the Communities Secretary. To ask the First Minister what the Scottish | :39:25. | :39:28. | |
Government's position is on increasing sentences imposed by | :39:29. | :39:33. | |
causing death by dangerous driving. Those who drive dangerously and kill | :39:34. | :39:38. | |
people ruin lives, not just of those who die, but of their family and | :39:39. | :39:43. | |
friends. The UK Government is currently consulting on whether | :39:44. | :39:46. | |
courts should have increased power to deal with such offenders. Nothing | :39:47. | :39:53. | |
can compensate for the loss of a family member, but increasing | :39:54. | :39:57. | |
penalties may help discourage people from driving dangerously in the | :39:58. | :40:03. | |
first place. This area of law is not devolved to Scotland. I would | :40:04. | :40:10. | |
encourage all those with concerns to respond to the consultation. The | :40:11. | :40:16. | |
four -- there is a campaign in a newspaper in Falkirk to end the | :40:17. | :40:29. | |
loophole where I drink-driver often gets a shorter sentence where they | :40:30. | :40:37. | |
flee the scene of the accident. It is a lesser offence to be charged | :40:38. | :40:44. | |
with careless driving. It is important to raise awareness of the | :40:45. | :40:48. | |
dangers associated with anyone driving a car dangerously. I think | :40:49. | :40:53. | |
it is legitimate to campaign for tougher sentences. Sentencing is a | :40:54. | :40:59. | |
matter for the courts. Some of the issues that the member has raised as | :41:00. | :41:04. | |
part of the campaign from the newspaper in Falkirk are being | :41:05. | :41:11. | |
looked at in the UK Government's consultation. I encourage everyone | :41:12. | :41:14. | |
in this Parliament and across the country to respond to the | :41:15. | :41:18. | |
consultation. I think there is a strong case to toughen up sentences | :41:19. | :41:23. | |
available to the courts in these circumstances. I hope that is the | :41:24. | :41:28. | |
direction the UK Government will take once they have considered the | :41:29. | :41:34. | |
responses to the consultation. To ask the First Minister what the | :41:35. | :41:38. | |
response is to the recent revised for cast for growth? It signals a | :41:39. | :41:53. | |
weaker outcome for the Scottish economy than immediately prior to | :41:54. | :41:59. | |
the EU referendum. This government's immediate focus is on seeking to | :42:00. | :42:10. | |
safeguard Scotland's place in Europe and our position in the single | :42:11. | :42:15. | |
market. Given that now every economic forecaster has revised | :42:16. | :42:23. | |
their growth projections down words, will the First Minister order a | :42:24. | :42:27. | |
review of the economic strategy published in March 2015 and the | :42:28. | :42:32. | |
inward investment strategy published in March 2016, both of which were | :42:33. | :42:37. | |
before Brexit, to reflect the challenging market conditions for | :42:38. | :42:43. | |
our businesses? She raises reasonable points. We keep our | :42:44. | :42:48. | |
economic strategy under review on an ongoing basis. Were looking | :42:49. | :42:52. | |
particularly closely at some of the aspects of the economic strategy in | :42:53. | :42:56. | |
light of Brexit and our budget next week will set out our plans to | :42:57. | :43:00. | |
ensure Scotland is a competitive place to do business and we are | :43:01. | :43:05. | |
focusing on growth in our economy. The skills and enterprise review is | :43:06. | :43:09. | |
very much about making sure all of our agencies working in this area | :43:10. | :43:14. | |
are working in a coordinated and comprehensive way to take forward | :43:15. | :43:16. | |
the economic strategy. We will continue to review and keep | :43:17. | :43:29. | |
under consideration that strategy, so we have the right measures in | :43:30. | :43:31. | |
place. The economy is Secretary is happy to discuss this in more detail | :43:32. | :43:34. | |
with members. How will making Scotland the most highly taxed part | :43:35. | :43:40. | |
of the UK help our economy grow? I intend to make sure we have fair and | :43:41. | :43:44. | |
balanced taxation for individuals and companies in this country. The | :43:45. | :43:53. | |
Tories are imposing Brexit and deep cuts. We will balance all of these | :43:54. | :43:58. | |
things in our budget. We will make sure we are focusing on growth, but | :43:59. | :44:03. | |
also protecting our public services and the most vulnerable in our | :44:04. | :44:08. | |
society because the Conservatives' policies are hitting the most | :44:09. | :44:13. | |
vulnerable and making it harder to protect public services. Finance | :44:14. | :44:16. | |
Secretary will set out our budget in the interests of Scotland in all of | :44:17. | :44:23. | |
these areas. To ask the First Minister what action the Scottish | :44:24. | :44:25. | |
Government can take in light of age Scotland's campaign to tackle | :44:26. | :44:35. | |
loneliness over the festive season. It is especially heartbreaking to | :44:36. | :44:40. | |
think at this time of year that many of our older neighbours will spend | :44:41. | :44:44. | |
Christmas alone. On Monday of this week, I helped to launch the festive | :44:45. | :44:51. | |
campaign. I would encourage everyone across Scotland to reach out to | :44:52. | :44:56. | |
older people in their communities. We are setting up a national | :44:57. | :45:07. | |
strategy to help tackle this issue. ?20 million currently supports seven | :45:08. | :45:13. | |
projects regarding social isolation in older people. We cannot leave | :45:14. | :45:18. | |
everything to government when personal neighbourly contact is | :45:19. | :45:23. | |
important. Will the national strategy consider the isolation | :45:24. | :45:26. | |
experienced by older people who may have a concessionary bus pass, but | :45:27. | :45:30. | |
no transport let alone busses, particularly in rural areas, knowing | :45:31. | :45:39. | |
that loneliness has serious implications for mental health, | :45:40. | :45:43. | |
money spent here could be money saved in the NHS, as well as giving | :45:44. | :45:49. | |
a greater quality of life. Will this have a place in that strategy? | :45:50. | :45:54. | |
It is a pertinent point about the power of preventative spending, if | :45:55. | :45:59. | |
we invest a small amount in these problems then we save money for the | :46:00. | :46:04. | |
NHS, local authorities and others. She also raises important point | :46:05. | :46:08. | |
about those living in rural areas, and for those living in rural areas | :46:09. | :46:13. | |
those issues are often more acute. So in developing the national | :46:14. | :46:17. | |
strategy that I spoke about, I can give them an assurance that we will | :46:18. | :46:22. | |
consider all of those issues of cross government so we are as | :46:23. | :46:27. | |
effectively as possible tackling those issues. That concludes First | :46:28. | :46:33. | |
Minister's questions. A festive note for the conclusion | :46:34. | :46:37. | |
but not particularly festive because it was dealing with loneliness at | :46:38. | :46:44. | |
Christmas. Allegations about education and sexual abuse | :46:45. | :46:51. | |
allegations in football. On education, both Ruth Davidson and | :46:52. | :46:57. | |
Willie Rennie really went for it, and the 13 of the almost said, OK, | :46:58. | :47:03. | |
hands up. -- and the First Minister almost said. This was bound to be | :47:04. | :47:08. | |
the big issues for the opposition parties, the lowest rankings of all | :47:09. | :47:13. | |
time in the PISA stats, international comparison of | :47:14. | :47:16. | |
education level. And she had to take it on the chin. She had to say, we | :47:17. | :47:21. | |
cannot defend it. She then went on to lay out some of the things she | :47:22. | :47:25. | |
said the government had been doing to address these failings, because | :47:26. | :47:31. | |
they reflect decisions for -- from two years ago. At that time they | :47:32. | :47:39. | |
asked the lady for advice on what they -- the OED what they should be | :47:40. | :47:46. | |
doing and they should get that. Ruth Davidson and Willie Rennie said, | :47:47. | :47:52. | |
repeating quotes from previous education secretaries and Ben Foster | :47:53. | :47:57. | |
is saying it is good to be great, -- saying it is going to be great. | :47:58. | :48:01. | |
Willie Rennie said that misses had been using complacency for a decade. | :48:02. | :48:07. | |
-- ministers had been losing complacency. He had a point but the | :48:08. | :48:13. | |
reforms that have been bought in have been backed by the opposition | :48:14. | :48:16. | |
parties. And wasn't that a change. You heard John Swinney shouting, | :48:17. | :48:22. | |
that is a change, and he is the Education Secretary. She indicated | :48:23. | :48:26. | |
that might change, she has got to put it on probation. If this is the | :48:27. | :48:32. | |
problem, how are we sticking with it? I am stuck with the remark from | :48:33. | :48:40. | |
the First Minister when she said, yes, investment is important but it | :48:41. | :48:43. | |
does not necessarily define the difference in those international | :48:44. | :48:48. | |
comparison scores. The SNP want to put more money into education but | :48:49. | :48:51. | |
there is not as much as they would like. That is why she is defending | :48:52. | :48:57. | |
not going down that road by saying that investment is important but not | :48:58. | :49:00. | |
the only thing. We need to find out what is going wrong here and put it | :49:01. | :49:05. | |
right. Let's turn to the subject of the historical child abuse | :49:06. | :49:12. | |
allegations connected to football, the First Minister was in a | :49:13. | :49:17. | |
difficult dilemma coming to an enquiry. She is, they are serious | :49:18. | :49:20. | |
allegations and we do not know how half far-reaching these will be. The | :49:21. | :49:26. | |
Scottish Government is already conducting an enquiry into | :49:27. | :49:31. | |
historical allegations for children who have been in care. Some | :49:32. | :49:38. | |
survivors say that that should be widened out to include other groups | :49:39. | :49:50. | |
who have been abused, that could be football clubs. But Nicola Sturgeon | :49:51. | :49:54. | |
said not all survivors want that. If you expand the enquiry, it could | :49:55. | :49:58. | |
take a long time to finish its work and a lot of the people who were | :49:59. | :50:01. | |
abuse are quite elderly, and they may not live to see the results of | :50:02. | :50:06. | |
that though justice could be denied for them. It is a difficult | :50:07. | :50:13. | |
question. She said it was a primarily criminal question, police | :50:14. | :50:15. | |
enquiries, but she left open the positivity that she might return to | :50:16. | :50:21. | |
it. Her main defence of not going forward is that it was in the hands | :50:22. | :50:24. | |
of the police and we knew that would be the case. But the fact is, she | :50:25. | :50:28. | |
then said if the results of all of these police enquiries show systemic | :50:29. | :50:33. | |
abuse, then we are not ruling out looking into that in the future. She | :50:34. | :50:37. | |
was trying to say the particular issue with children who were in | :50:38. | :50:41. | |
care, extended slightly to say, while they were in care, abuse that | :50:42. | :50:44. | |
happened elsewhere, not necessarily in that setting, that has already | :50:45. | :50:49. | |
been extended by John Swinney, she was joined to say that was | :50:50. | :50:51. | |
particular because it was institution. For those who are in | :50:52. | :51:00. | |
loco parentis. It was indeed, and I guess these fit for clubs, they were | :51:01. | :51:05. | |
not in a position but I don't think just saying that will ease the | :51:06. | :51:11. | |
consultant -- is the consent of parents who have sent their sport -- | :51:12. | :51:19. | |
recruit children for training. It is the national sport of Scotland. | :51:20. | :51:27. | |
Kezia Dugdale was affected and effective today, she said, please | :51:28. | :51:31. | |
think again. There was an accident plea to include this kind of abuse, | :51:32. | :51:37. | |
boys organisations, scouts, Boys' Brigade, anything in that context. | :51:38. | :51:41. | |
It is not difficult to have sympathy with that but we have already seen | :51:42. | :51:45. | |
what happens when enquiries get out of control. Nicola Sturgeon cited | :51:46. | :51:51. | |
the initial example. Or the Edinburgh trams or whatever. -- | :51:52. | :51:55. | |
Nicola Sturgeon cited the English example. We will talk to you again | :51:56. | :52:03. | |
in a second. I mentioned the role of opposition, and both of the | :52:04. | :52:06. | |
principal opposition leaders this week have been setting out their | :52:07. | :52:11. | |
stall as to how they see the status of Scotland changing. We had a | :52:12. | :52:14. | |
speech from Ruth Davidson earlier in the week and yesterday we had Kezia | :52:15. | :52:21. | |
Dugdale on the idea of extended the scope of our situation changed to | :52:22. | :52:25. | |
include English regions. Let's hear from the two of them. This is an act | :52:26. | :52:34. | |
of union to save the union, I believe in the United Kingdom, I | :52:35. | :52:37. | |
think it is the most powerful force to redistribute wealth and that is | :52:38. | :52:41. | |
the argument I have always made. This is a chance to reform it for a | :52:42. | :52:44. | |
new age and I think we should grasp the asked unity. Scott asked that | :52:45. | :52:50. | |
after being in the pocket of yes or no, they want progress and change | :52:51. | :52:55. | |
and they want change and this gives us the opportunity to bring our | :52:56. | :52:58. | |
country together and I'm proud to advocate it. We know in Scotland, if | :52:59. | :53:02. | |
you do not pick a proper efforts to bring the two sides back together | :53:03. | :53:06. | |
after a referendum, divisions can stay there. I do not want to see | :53:07. | :53:12. | |
that happen the rest of the UK as well which is why I am putting in | :53:13. | :53:18. | |
the plea today to see if people are saying yes or no to come back | :53:19. | :53:22. | |
together. As a country, as we are talking about Brexit, that we are | :53:23. | :53:26. | |
using civil language so people in the rest of Europe, the other 27 | :53:27. | :53:30. | |
nations that will be sitting across the table from negotiating our exit, | :53:31. | :53:38. | |
understand our position as well. Ruth Davidson and Kezia Dugdale are | :53:39. | :53:41. | |
both making speeches in London, with those comments. Kezia Dugdale first, | :53:42. | :53:47. | |
she was previously attacking the First Minister on sticking to the | :53:48. | :53:51. | |
day job, some felt she was doing that quite effectively, why shift | :53:52. | :53:56. | |
onto this constitutional ground? Because Labour is in a quagmire over | :53:57. | :54:00. | |
where it stands on the constitution. It now looks more clear, it looks as | :54:01. | :54:04. | |
if at long last, and this speech apparently had Jeremy Corbyn's | :54:05. | :54:09. | |
approval, Labour would now seem to be officially a federal party, | :54:10. | :54:14. | |
supporting a federal... He is not quite there, he is endorsing the | :54:15. | :54:18. | |
convention but not official policy. The thing is that, people's | :54:19. | :54:23. | |
convention, that smells awfully like long grass to me. I think a lot of | :54:24. | :54:28. | |
people will think that. It is a good idea, it buys time, stops her having | :54:29. | :54:31. | |
to characterise herself as a Unionist which Labour hate. But will | :54:32. | :54:36. | |
there be anything in it? The crisis is now with Brexit. Not a few years | :54:37. | :54:43. | |
down the road. It was a strategy not immediate policy, strategy just to | :54:44. | :54:46. | |
get a card in the game. It is interesting, I think Gordon Brown | :54:47. | :54:50. | |
has backed what Kezia Dugdale is doing. He was doing this and | :54:51. | :54:56. | |
endorsing this prior to misses Doug Bell. -- to Kezia Dugdale. He has | :54:57. | :55:04. | |
been talking for two years about reforming the constitution of the | :55:05. | :55:07. | |
UK, and study as powerful and influential as Gordon Brown has not | :55:08. | :55:11. | |
really managed to take that further forward. I do not know if his | :55:12. | :55:14. | |
intervention will make much difference to the plight of Scottish | :55:15. | :55:19. | |
Labour. Let's talk to Ruth Davidson, she said that she was trying to put | :55:20. | :55:23. | |
aside the differences and bring about unity, some people said, hang | :55:24. | :55:32. | |
on a second, the problem was caught in the first place by the | :55:33. | :55:37. | |
Conservatives. She would say that. This is the mess of her party's own | :55:38. | :55:41. | |
making. This was a mess born of David Cameron's confident that he | :55:42. | :55:47. | |
could have a referendum safe in the knowledge that Britain would not be | :55:48. | :55:50. | |
mad enough to vote for Brexit, now they have. And surprise, surprise, | :55:51. | :55:55. | |
the language has become inflamed, I do not think anyone should be | :55:56. | :55:58. | |
surprised by that. There will have to be reconciliation after that and | :55:59. | :56:01. | |
that is true, but whether the Conservatives are the people with | :56:02. | :56:06. | |
the moral high ground here, I am not so sure. She's also train to stress | :56:07. | :56:13. | |
the UK damaging to this, preserve the UK damaging. She is, and after | :56:14. | :56:20. | |
2014 when Scotland voted to stay in the union, since then politicians | :56:21. | :56:25. | |
have been calling on people to heal the divide but now we have had the | :56:26. | :56:30. | |
Brexit referendum and massive differences between Scotland and | :56:31. | :56:35. | |
England. And that is only heightening the differences north | :56:36. | :56:41. | |
and south of the border. You have the tribute from all of the leaders | :56:42. | :56:53. | |
from Alex Thomson, this was him taking the oath in 1999, he was 38, | :56:54. | :57:05. | |
he was here constantly until his death tragically very recently, he | :57:06. | :57:08. | |
thought he had a problem with gallstones a few months ago and it | :57:09. | :57:15. | |
turned out to be terminal cancer. The Book of Remembrance has been | :57:16. | :57:19. | |
opened. He was resolutely Tory, union and and Scottish, what did you | :57:20. | :57:29. | |
make of him? I think someone who was very much on the right-hand side of | :57:30. | :57:33. | |
his party, but he had a great sense of humour. He always conducted | :57:34. | :57:38. | |
debates in that style. And I think that made him quite likeable, you | :57:39. | :57:48. | |
could agree with him but it was likeable. You could disagree with | :57:49. | :57:52. | |
him but it was done with a smile. He was a big personality, he will be | :57:53. | :57:57. | |
missed. Indeed, a big person in Parliament, and talking about him | :57:58. | :58:01. | |
being on the right, he was the sole Tory voice on the welfare reform | :58:02. | :58:07. | |
committee and the Conservatives at Westminster were pushing through | :58:08. | :58:11. | |
quite controversial welfare reforms. The SNP and Labour were attacking | :58:12. | :58:20. | |
them for those and Alex Johnson was the Parthenon committee to fight the | :58:21. | :58:23. | |
fight for the Conservatives and stand there corner, he did that with | :58:24. | :58:30. | |
character and robustly but that is why we have had quite warm tributes | :58:31. | :58:36. | |
to him. Very warm tributes, he was a man of the north-east, from Lewis | :58:37. | :58:42. | |
critics given country, and I remember are lying, he was a man | :58:43. | :58:50. | |
rooted in the land, but it was never really for him. | :58:51. | :58:59. | |
Oh, Walt. You got to call me Walt. Mr Disney was my old man. | :59:00. | :59:22. | |
Enjoy four BBC films this Christmas on BBC Two. | :59:23. | :59:27. |