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Hello and a warm welcome on this rather chilly day and a good New

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Year to you as well. It is a new year, but it is the same topics and

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anxieties. We are concerned about the health service. There will be a

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debate this afternoon about the state of the education system and

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there is always Brexit. Any of those questions could come up in questions

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to the First Minister. Let us cross to be Chamber. With the Britain is

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on her feet. Let us listen in. Let me wish you and everyone across

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Scotland are happy New Year. Later today I will have engagement to take

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forward the government was programme for Scotland. We have heard a lot

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this week about performance in health systems. I think we should

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all be able to agree that nobody should revel in sick people

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struggling to treated anywhere. Instead we should be focused on

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patients and how to improve care and that is why I welcome reports this

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morning that the Scottish Government has brought in a team from the NHS

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in England to help out the troubled Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Glasgow.

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Can I asked the First Minister how many other Scottish hospitals have

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benefited and continue to benefit from such arrangements? There is not

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a team from the NHS in England helping in the Queen Elizabeth.

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There is a support team provided by the Scottish Government helping the

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Queen Elizabeth Hospital deal with pressures in A There is an input

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to that from a very small team, to people I think from a commissioning

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provider in the North of England, but this is a Scottish Government

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support team and it's making sure the Queen Elizabeth Hospital, just

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is as the case in hospitals across Scotland are dealing with the

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increasing demand for A services. It's worth saying that our services

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face challenges, particularly in the winter months and these are

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challenges not just based in Scotland, but across the UK. Our

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staff are doing a sterling job in dealing with those challenges. The

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most recently published figures for the week ending the 1st of January

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showed that out of every 100 patients, 92 were seen within the

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four hour target. That is broadly similar to the same week last year,

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despite A attendances being up by almost 3% since the same week last

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year. My concern of responsibility is a Scotland but it's important to

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say that due to the actions that we have taken to support A

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departments across Scotland, our NHS is coping better than the NHS in

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other parts of the UK. The Chamber doesn't have too take my word for

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that. Let me quote Professor Derek Bell. He said Scotland is

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consistently performing eight or ten percentage points better than

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England. There is no complacency in this government when it comes to A

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or any other health care services. I visited three different health board

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this week alone, but we will continue to support our health

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service and our A departments to make sure they continue to deliver

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the services the patients deserve. Presiding Officer, I asked how many

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hospitals were benefiting from such arrangements. As the First Minister

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chose not answer I'm sure the Chamber looks to her updating us on

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her convenience as to how many have been so served. We know they have

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been problems at the Queen Elizabeth and we know this team that brings in

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a lot of different people including people from south of the border has

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been in place for a number of months, but what we don't know is

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it's precise remit. How long it has been asked to stay for and what cost

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has been incurred to the Scottish Government. Can I asked the First

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Minister what has been the total cost over the past five years of

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hiring specialist teams from other parts of the UK to help the NHS in

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Scotland? We provide... We as the Scottish Government provide

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appropriate support to help boards so that they can continue to improve

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services and deliver better services to patients. Perhaps if the element

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in the rest of the UK was doing similarly, there would be better A

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performance across hospitals in England. As an aside, the latest

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figures for England on A were published this morning. They show a

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further decline in performance and they now show a gap between

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performance in Scotland's A and England's of ten percentage points.

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Let me say very clearly, Presiding Officer, the NHS in Scotland will

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continue to use and learn from best practice in the delivery of health

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care, where ever that best practice exists. Let me also say this very

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clearly and there was no complacency on the part of the government, we

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will come in see increases in the winter months and that will be

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reflected in performance, but if there is best practice in the NHS in

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terms of anywhere in the UK to be learned from, it is best practice in

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the NHS in Scotland. I quoted Professor Derek Bell earlier on. I

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don't know if Ruth Davidson has seen what he has written in this

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morning's Scots man. He talks about the better performance, consistently

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better performance than in other parts of the UK and he says that

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this is in part due to the National programme to improve unscheduled

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care that she is best practice and appears to be sharing patient

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benefit. He then suggests the NHS in England should consider introducing

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a similar national plan to the one already operational in Scotland. So

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we do have best practice in A services. That is practice has been

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delivered in our hospitals here in Scotland. Presiding Officer I simply

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asked for a greater transparency in health spending and as a former

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Health Secretary I would've thought that that was information that the

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First Minister would have been happy to provide the Chamber. It seems

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not. Of course the Queen Elizabeth Hospital is not the only new medical

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facility with teething problems. In 2014 the First Minister announced

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new trauma centres would open across the country. They were supposed to

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receive the first patients last year, but yesterday the Scottish

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Government announced the new centres would be years late. The First

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Minister admitted they would be at least three years late and the only

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explanation offered with scale and complexity. Communities have been

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expecting the centres for two years and are now been told to wait at

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least another three. I think they deserve a full explanation than the

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one given and so does this Parliament. All the First Minister

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of it now? -- will be First Minister give it to us now? We have record

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levels of health spending in Scotland as a result of decisions

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taken by this government. That record level of health spending is

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delivering record numbers of staff working in our health service and

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those record numbers of staff are delivering A performance in

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Scotland right now that is ten percentage points better than A

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performance in England and even further than that, compared to Wales

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and Northern Ireland. We will never be complacent about the performance

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of our health service, particularly during these difficult winter

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months, but let me take the opportunity to thank each and every

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one of our health care teams across Scotland who are doing such a

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fantastic job on our behalf right now. In terms of the trauma centres

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that I was very proud to talk about yesterday, including ?5 million of

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investment in the next financial year to support this commitment, we

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have rightly taken time to get this right. Ruth Davidson and others will

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be aware, should be aware because many of their own members have been

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part of this intense debate about the correct number and configuration

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of major trauma centres across Scotland and Ruth Davidson would've

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read in that programme to government published in September last year the

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commitment that we would conclude the preparatory work by the end of

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2016. That is exactly what we have done. We will now go on with

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implementation, but it's important to be clear what we are talking

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about. We're not talking about creating from scratch four new

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facilities that currently don't exist. These four hospitals in

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Aberdeen, Dundee, Glasgow and Edinburgh already provide excellent

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first-class trauma care. What we are talking about is continuing to

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enhance what they do and to join up the services they provide with the

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services that other hospitals provide and with the service that

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the Scottish ambulance provided in an integrated trauma network and

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that work will be done on an ongoing basis over the next three years.

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Many of the improvements that are part of that will be delivered over

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the course of this year, including key improvements to the trauma

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service provided by the Scottish Ambulance Service. This is about

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ongoing improvement to excellent services that are being delivered by

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trauma care staff across the NHS. I was delighted to talk to that staff

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yesterday and let me take the opportunity to take the opportunity

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to thank them for the first class outstanding job that they are doing.

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So not just late, but also scaled back from the party conference

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announcements? Presiding Officer, there is another point here and once

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again yesterday we saw this Scottish Government bypass Parliament and go

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straight to the media regarding a major change it's been reported that

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the Health Secretary is not due to update Parliament on the delay to

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these trauma centres until October, meaning MSPs won't have a proper

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opportunity to question the reasons behind this decision for nine months

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and I think that is clearly unacceptable. The Scottish

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Conservatives have requested that the Health Secretary comes to this

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Chamber to give a full statement on the delay and I asked the First

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Minister to ensure that that takes place next week. Providing officer,

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can I point out to Ruth Davidson that I am in the Chamber right now

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answering questions from her on major trauma centres! Said if she

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can't get any or all of the information about this announcement

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that she wants, then I would suggest that about a deficiency in her

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ability to ask questions, not about any lack of information from the

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Scottish Government. Can I also say to Ruth Davidson to further things

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about this. I didn't go straight to the media yesterday, I went straight

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to nine wells Hospital to talk to the staff who deliver trauma centre

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care across this country. And incidentally, there was an IP Q

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published in forming Parliament that I did it. Secondly, Ruth Davidson

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clearly doesn't know much about this subject. She talks about scaling

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back. Can I say that when I talked about the intense debate about the

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number, that was about the fact that there were people who we should only

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have two major trauma centres based in Edinburgh and Glasgow. We did not

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think that was right, so what we have committed to our four major

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trauma centres as part of an integrated network. Further evidence

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of this government getting on with the job of delivering first-class

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care services and finally, providing officer, I do say it's a bit rich

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for Ruth Davidson to come to this Chamber and talk about the health

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service. Especially in the week when the Red Cross has accused her party

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presiding over a humanitarian crisis in the health service in England. So

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I'll get on with the job... I'll get on with the job of supporting our

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health care staffing doing the great job that they are doing in providing

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health services across our country. I can see members are in quite a

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rounding mood and if we could just please show some restraint. Kezia

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Dugdale, question number two. Happy New Year, Presiding Officer. I once

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asked the First Minister what engagements she has for the rest of

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the week? Two take forward the programme for Scotland. Last year I

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met with leading consultants and surgeons at the Aberdeen infirmary.

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They said a new trauma centre in Aberdeen could be the difference

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between life and death for people in the north-east. Whether it's someone

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in a serious car crash or an accident on the brakes, they were

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clear. Having access to world-class trauma care could be a life-saver.

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The SNP promised the trauma centres will be open in 2016, but yesterday

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the First Minister and a three-year delay and she looked like she was

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celebrating that delay. Given what the experts tell us, is this the

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First Minister accept that this delay could be a matter of life and

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death? Aberdeen and Dundee major trauma centres will be fully

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operational before the ones in Edinburgh and Glasgow, probably over

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the next year to 18 months. Aberdeen is getting the life-saving trauma

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centre that some people thought it should not get because there should

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be only too, based in Glasgow and Edinburgh. It's important because

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this is really important. These major trauma centres are not

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brand-new facilities from scratch. These hospitals are already

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providing trauma care. It's about enhancing what they do firstly, but

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secondly, and this is the crucial part in perhaps the part that is not

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fully understood, it's about joining up what these four centres do with

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the work that other hospitals do in other parts of the country and

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crucially with the work that the Scottish Ambulance Service will do

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in an integrated trauma care network. That is the really

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important part. One of the early parts of implementation of this will

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be the provision of a 24-7 trauma desk within the Scottish Ambulance

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Service said that patients get to definitive trauma care as quickly as

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possible. This is not just about four centres, is about a network of

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trauma care that is going to deliver better trauma care for patients that

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is already being delivered. Let me stress, these hospitals are

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delivering first-class care already. The life-saving medics I met told me

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that they are telling the government more delays will cost lives. I

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listened very carefully to the First Minister's response to Ruth

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Davidson. I wrote it down word for word. She said we are rightly taking

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time to get things right. She's that we are ensuring the correct number

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and correct configuration. Wipe then did her government released a press

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release on the 2nd of April 2014 that says, the four bases will be

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operational Kezia Dugdale, if she had looked

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into all the detail, with all the answer to her own question. After

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that, it was another report that cast doubt on that being the correct

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configurations. We had to look again, if we were taking into

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account the clinical evidence if we were getting that correct. That is

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why what I say it was exactly the correct thing, taking time to make

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it right. These improvements are underway already, Aberdeen already

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delivers life-saving trauma care, enhancing what it does, Dundee,

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Glasgow, Edinburgh. But crucially, making sure that they work together

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in that network with the appropriate support from the Scottish Ambulance

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Service. These are the correct changes, being taken forward. The

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other part of the announcement from that has not been talked about and

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off, the focus on rehabilitation. It is about making sure that people who

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suffer serious traumatic the rehabilitation that the need for the

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quality of life. This is an integrated approach, correct

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approach, based on evidence. Achievement, officer has taken

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forward the work and we're to implement it. I also listened

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carefully to the First Minister smacked response about problems

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facing England's NHS. I think it is incredible to hear the First

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Minister say that the Red Cross has not condemned our NHS. What happened

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to the high ambition? It is an unhealthy seam that follows the SNP

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and election pledges, patients promised world class care at the

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Queen Elizabeth and they are not getting that. People in the

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north-east were promised the trauma centre, but yours behind schedule.

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We know that 700 people have died, waiting to leave hospital. Targets

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are being missed. And dedicated health care staff have told us that

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they are under pressure like never before. The only consistent thing

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that the SNP deliver, broken promises on NHS. Kezia Dugdale's

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comment about the Red Cross would be fine, if it was actually what I have

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said. What I said we should be celebrating in our NHS, with no

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complacency, is that hard-working staff in Accident and Emergency

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departments are delivering performances against the targets,

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ten percentage points ahead of hospitals in England, and even

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farther ahead of Wales and Northern Ireland. And you do not have to take

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my world for that. That as the view of the experts, and I quoted

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Professor Derek Bell. I think we should be proud of the NHS staff are

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doing that but we should continue to support them, given the challenges

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that the fleece and will continue to cease throughout the winter. Kezia

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Dugdale also mentions delayed discharges. We have seen evidence in

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England, steep rises, over the last year, when we have got more work to

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do. We have seen our main percent in NHS bed days lost to reduction

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discharges. I have visited three different health boards this week,

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and the people I have spoken to have talked about the six actions and the

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benefits that are starting to be filled from integration of Health

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and Social Care Act. Getting people discharged from hospital earlier.

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Were the only government in the United Kingdom that is not just

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talking about integration, we have actually done it. And the benefits

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are being seen. Much more work to do but we will continue to support the

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NHS. And finally Presiding Officer, I am going to say this to Kezia

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Dugdale, and I know that she does not like this. This government was

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elected on a commitment to increase resource spending by ?500 million,

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more than inflation, over the life of this Parliament. Kezia Dugdale's

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commitment in that election was just a increase in spending by inflation.

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If Kezia Dugdale was standing in my place, they have service would have

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less money. She has got a cheap to ask the questions that she has been

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doing. -- a cheek. We have a couple of constituency questions. Murdo

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Fraser. Thank you Presiding Officer. Yesterday, the four through approach

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was closed for most of the decor is not -- day, causing disruption. I am

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sure the First Minister wants to join me, commending all those who

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worked so hard yesterday in difficult conditions to get the

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bridge reopened as quickly as possible. However, it will not have

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escaped the attention of my constituents, that if the new

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Queensferry Crossing had been opened in December, as the First Minister

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had previously promised, they can to -- could have been spared this

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destruction. Can the First Minister tell my constituents today when the

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Queensferry Crossing will be open. To get to the facts of us, if a

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driver had not ignored warnings, not to take an HGV onto the bridge, this

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would not have happened. The contractual obligation as for June

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this year, and we're on track to make sure that it is going be open

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on track and the Queensferry Crossing is also being delivered

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under budget. I want to thank all those working hard on the Newbridge,

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as I want to thank all those who worked really hard yesterday and

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some of the most difficult with conditions that we can say at this

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time of year to get the bridge repealed. It was a complex repair.

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The bridge was open at nine o'clock last night. And I think all of us

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should say a heartfelt thank you. Thank you Presiding Officer. I would

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like to put on record that I am a PLO to the First Minister. A number

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of my constituents are outside the parliament today, sitting position

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for oil movement at the Moray Firth. The decision on ship to ship is for

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the Maritime and coarsening agency, with the First Minister join me in

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arching their ship to ship to listen to the views of my constituents and

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the course attention to the potential environmental impact of

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ship to ship if that was allowed to go-ahead. Can I thank you for the

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question. Correctly pointing out that this is not a devolved matter,

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despite the Scottish Government repeatedly making the case for these

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powers to be devolved. On the basis of the current information, the

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Scottish Government is unconvinced that ship to ship oil transfers can

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take place, without resulting in an unacceptable risk to the marine

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environment, particularly European designated area for bottlenose

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dolphins. We ensure that the concerns of local communities are

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going to be heard, well continuing to press for relevant powers to be

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devolved to Scotland. And the Port authority is also a vital part of

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the economy of the North of Scotland. The NCA has got a duty to

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listen to these concerns, and to the local people, represented at

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parliament today. I welcome those Finally, it's the parliament today,

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and some of those could be unsafe. I want to assure them that the

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Scottish Government absolutely hears those concerns and will continue to

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do everything that we can to make sure that those are heard by those

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making the decisions. It would be good advice after leaving parliament

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to stop off at the Scottish Office, and make sure that the UK Government

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is listening, I hope that they would listen to those concerns as well.

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John Lamont. Thank you Presiding Officer. The First Minister

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descriptively aware of the news that the Jim Clarke rally is not going to

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be taking part. This could be divorced from the motor racing

:24:53.:24:55.

calendar permanently, and that would be a blow to the Borders economy. I

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would the First Minister and the Scottish Government to do all that

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it can to support the Jim Clarke rally, and can the First Minister

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show that the ongoing enquiry is not going to be an obstacle, rally

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itself. Can look at its decision-making not to grant a

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permanent? I am going to put this in detail to make sure that he gets all

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the information that he needs around the legal position. My

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understanding, it is the governing body that has taken the decision not

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to hold the rally this year. I understand that is of great

:25:36.:25:37.

disappointment to those who enjoy the event. But given past incidents

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at that event, it is legitimate and understandable concerns about

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safety. It has been the subject of reports. We will continue to do all

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that we reasonably can to support those who want to ensure the safe

:25:53.:25:56.

conduct of this event in the future. These events are not just matters of

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enjoyment to followers of the sport but can be beneficial to the local

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economy as well. I want to make sure that for the information around the

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detail of this is provided to the member and the government will

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continue to do what we can to liaise with the Jim Clarke organisers to

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make sure that we can provide any reasonable assistance. Question

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number three. Patrick Harvie. I want to add to the general wishes for a

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good New Year. To ask the First Minister when the Cabinet will next

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meet. Tuesday. Some of the people who may not have a happy New Year

:26:37.:26:39.

those who are going be affected by the UK Government's new benefits

:26:40.:26:44.

cap. We have put in a number of questions on this issue about the

:26:45.:26:47.

people of Scotland. Household family is going to be affected by that

:26:48.:26:52.

savage reduction in welfare. Some of them losing over ?100 a week. I know

:26:53.:26:57.

that the Scottish Government opposes that policy and shares concern about

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it. Not in asking those questions, it has been clear that the Scottish

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Government does not have an understanding about the number of

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households affected. Previous estimates said 4000 households, DWP

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have suggested 5000, external organisations have sent even opt to

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11,000 households in Scotland. Some 20,000 children affected by those

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cuts. Does the First Minister agree with me, it is vital that we get an

:27:29.:27:33.

accurate assessment of the number of people who will be affected by these

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cuts, and the ways in which they are going to be affected if they point

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out any chance to get the support that they need with these new powers

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coming to the Scottish Parliament? I agree with that very much. Patrick

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Harvie will be aware, that the Scottish Government is seeking to do

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what we can to understand the numbers of those affected by the

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benefit. But we are reliant to a large extent by information provided

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by the DWP to give accurate assessments. We will continue to do

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what they can, but also seek information from the DWP, so that we

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can get an accurate assessment but also use accurate assessments to our

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own plan approach. I will not go into detail with the interests of

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time, but also other issues that we have to make sure we have an

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understanding around DWP, for instance when we have the ability to

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use the powers to formally abolish the bedroom tax. How that will

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interact with the benefit. On this, and any other issue, we do not want

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to be giving with one hand, only for the UK Government to be taking away

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with other. Complex issues, but at the heart of this, a simple

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commitment from the Scottish Government. We want to continue to

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do what we have, mitigate as far as we can the impact of an fair will

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feel changes, -- unfair welfare changes, and also put on the systems

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that are fair, have respect and at their heart. Dignity Patrick Harvie.

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I understand the complexity of the challenge. But it seems that the

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Chartered Institute of Housing, and those who have conducted external

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assessments are not restricted to these DWP figures. They have shown

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that the impact is good to be much higher. The Scottish Government

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needs to be able to work with him, and any other organisations that can

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produce an accurate assessment. Can the First Minister give us some

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clarity about when that assessment is going to be conducted, when we

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will have an accurate understanding of who is going to be affected, how

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many households and how they will be affected? Clearly, the idea of a

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child poverty strategy is going to be close to meaningless if we do not

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have a clearer understanding of the impact of these changes on child

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poverty in Scotland. And will be Scottish Government reconsider the

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option of top up to true benefit, research has shown that even 5%

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could lift as many as 40,000 children out of poverty in Scotland.

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In terms of the substance, how we are going to use these new powers,

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some commitments set out in the manifesto that we were elected on.

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The Green Party put forward proposals that they will with

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interest. Including the one that he talks about. What we said in the

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manifesto and what we are committed to doing, introducing the new early

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years grant, providing increased and better support to families and the

:30:42.:30:45.

lowest income households when they have children. And we will continue

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to support not just for the first child, butt of all children as well.

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We are determined to use these powers, to help tackle child

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poverty. The more general part of Patrick Harvie's Christian, I will

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speak to the relevant Cabinet Secretary, to get a fuller

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understanding of the work that we are doing to get those assessments.

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I think that he is correct. And experience would tell me that he is

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right. DWP estimates for the number of people affected by those changes

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tend to be at the lower end of the Spectrum. It is in our interests as

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well as the interests of the chamber and the country, for us to properly

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understand the situation. If it would be coupled to Patrick Harvie,

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I am happy to ask officials to meet him and his colleagues, so that he

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can understand the work we are doing to get to the position.

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To ask the First Minister what will be discussed that the next meeting

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of the Cabinet? Matters of importance to the people of

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Scotland. The budget is coming up. The Scottish Government has received

:31:57.:32:00.

weekly warnings on the economy and education. We have the risk of a

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heart Brexit. Scottish education has gone from leading to just average.

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The IPPR warned about schools this week. Small business confidence is

:32:13.:32:17.

falling. We are going to have to do something about this. I believe the

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First Minister needs to rise to the challenge by investing in education

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and skills to get our schools back up to the best, to train other

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people for work to boost the economy. As college funding has been

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cut in real terms by ?90 million compared with seven years ago,

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wouldn't it be right for us, considering all those challenges, to

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reverse that can't inform? First Minister? We have put forward a

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draft budget. Willie Rennie knows that we prioritise the economy and

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he is right to say it is important given the challenges we face from

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Brexit. The budget also prioritises education. I could not have been

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clearer and I will continue to be clear about the importance we attach

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to education, raising standards and closing the attainment gap. The

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budget is a draft budget, and as is normally the case on we are passing

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budgets we will discuss with others who want to discuss with us ways in

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which we can listen to the suggestions that are put forward.

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And the Finance Secretary has been discussing with other parties will

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continue to do that, but be in no doubt, the economy, education and

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public services and continuing to make sure we take this forward to

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equip Scotland that the challenges that lie ahead will always be at the

:33:46.:33:51.

centre of our spending plans. I am afraid that answer fails to match

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the scale of the challenge that is before us and that is why the

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Scottish Government has no majority for its budget. That ?90 million cut

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from colleges has wiped out a whole sector of part-time courses. The

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Royal Society of Edinburgh said today a 40% reduction in part-time

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students in the last eight years and none has primarily affected women

:34:17.:34:21.

and over 25-year-olds. The pupil premium for schools in England has

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delivered real change that allows everyone, no matter what their

:34:26.:34:28.

background, to participate in the economy. The Scottish Government's

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attainment from plans are years behind and ?70 million short of what

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is required to match that present investment. Of course other budget

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changes will be required, but we have seen decline in schools and we

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have seen decline in colleges so were the First Minister reverse the

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decline and change her budget for the sake of our economy? We will

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continue to discuss with Willie Rennie and others suggestions that

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they have for amendments to the draft budget. That is how we always

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conduct ourselves when we are at the stage of the budget process. I would

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say to Willie Rennie that we in and week out what he is asking about the

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change of the draft budget does change. Around Christmas it was

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around mental health and we are in agreement that we need to do more.

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Today it is a range of other things. We will continue to engage on these

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matters and the financial Secretary's is open to anyone who

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wants to have a constructive conversation. With regard to the

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people equity funds, part of the Scottish attainment challenge was

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the ?120 million go directly to schools in the form of a pupil

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equity fund, delivering extra to support children who come from more

:35:49.:35:52.

deprived backgrounds. That is a signal of our determination to close

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the attainment gap. We put forward a budget that has the right priorities

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but we remain open to discussing the detail of that with any party that

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wants to engage and -- in a constructive way. What is the

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position on the record number of drink-drivers that have been

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stopped? It's more than disappointing to see a rise in the

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number of drivers who have flouted the law and put their lives and the

:36:26.:36:29.

lives of others at risk over the festive period. There is only one

:36:30.:36:32.

safe level of alcohol if you are driving and that is none at all.

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Unfortunately data shows the bus majority of those court will not

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only over the new lower limit, but over the previously higher limit.

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Police Scotland are taking action to catch those who put lives at risk is

:36:47.:36:51.

by drink-driving, especially the hard-core drink-drivers and that's

:36:52.:36:54.

why we have increased the number of checks carried out over the festive

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period compared to the year before. Do these figures highlight the

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effort and resources that Police Scotland are directing towards

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safety over the festive period and does the First Minister commend the

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services for making our roads and community safer? I do commend the

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police thought the work in this area and I commend the work of all our

:37:22.:37:25.

emergency services in the work they did over the festive period to make

:37:26.:37:31.

us all safe. The festive drink-driving campaign demonstrate

:37:32.:37:33.

that Police Scotland are right to focus very clearly on those who

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drink and drive by taking the action necessary to catch those who are

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putting not only their lives but the lives of others at risk by getting

:37:42.:37:46.

behind the wheel after drinking. During the four-week enforcement

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campaign there was an average of 610 drivers tested every day and that is

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a 50% rise in the number of checks that were carried out the year

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before. Assistant Chief Constable Benny Higgins said and I agree with

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this, drivers need to take personal responsibility and be aware that

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whilst the campaign is over, Police Scotland are focused on detecting

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and arresting drunk drivers. There is no excuse for drunk driving. It

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does put the lives of those doing it at risk and the lives of others at

:38:16.:38:20.

risk and it is right that over the festive period and at all periods of

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time we all say how unacceptable it is and we get behind Police Scotland

:38:25.:38:32.

and the efforts to eradicate it. To ask the First Minister what the

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Scottish Government's responses to a recent BBC report suggesting that

:38:37.:38:43.

90% of performance athletes supported by SportScotland come from

:38:44.:38:49.

a middle-class background? SportScotland and other clubs want

:38:50.:38:57.

to build a system that is inclusive of everyone. The government has made

:38:58.:39:03.

clear our determination to make sure children from our poorest

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communities have the same opportunities as those from our

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richest and that includes sports at every level. Our investment in sport

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and PE in school represents a commitment. I thank the First

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Minister for the answer. Would she agree that those performance

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athletes who have had the honour of representing their country has done

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so because of hard work and dedication? There is however an even

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equality of opportunity and the answer is not too penalised the high

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achievers, but to make sure that all opportunities are afforded to

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everyone and stop with physical literacy at the earliest age as an

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integral part of the educational framework? Yes I do agree with that.

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If a good opportunity to take a moment to congratulate Sir Andy

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Murray, then capping Granger and Gordon Reid for the recognition in

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the Queen 's New Year on a list and everyone else who was recognised.

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They are shining examples of the success of Scottish sport. It's

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right that we continue to invest in elite sports and I have the honour

:40:19.:40:22.

of officially opening the new elite performance Centre a few weeks ago.

:40:23.:40:34.

It's also important that we support sport and physical activity at

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grassroots. The amount of PE in schools increased dramatically over

:40:39.:40:43.

the years that this government has been in office. I'm also proud that

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we are supporting schools to do the daily mile in schools which is a

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potentially transformational initiatives for the health and

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fitness of our young people and yes it is right that we tried to promote

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greater equality in opportunities for sport. I would say and this

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might be the only discordant note in an area where I otherwise agree with

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Brian, if you want to encourage more people from deprived areas to take

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advantage of the opportunities in sport, perhaps reducing the

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circumstances where the parents are having to use food banks or are

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subject to benefit caps will help with that. Let us all get behind

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making Scotland and even fitter nation. Thank you, Presiding

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Officer. I note the First Minister's Sir, but I don't totally agree. I

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refer to the report from the wholesome sport committee in 2009.

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There is much to be learned from that report but I'm going to quote

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from paragraph 268 we said, the international evidence that it is

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notoriously difficult to achieve a lasting legacy from sports events in

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particular the transformation of grass root sport and mass public

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participation, recent comments have proved that we were right all those

:42:06.:42:09.

years ago. Yet I do have concerns that there is still too much focus

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and therefore funding directed towards the elite sports. I

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recognise the achievements, but it's not all about medal count because we

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partially justify that by a supposed payback of that nonexistent legacy.

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Can I therefore ask if the government and the First Minister

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will look at the balancing funding to more grassroots, not to try to

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rely too much on that legacy which has not happened? I do think it is a

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question of getting the balance right, but I don't think we should

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reduce the support that we give for elite sports because in many ways it

:42:49.:42:55.

is the performance and the success of our elite sportsmen and women

:42:56.:42:59.

that will help to inspire young people to take up sport and to take

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up physical activity. I would say to Christine and I know she will agree

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with me invincible, just because something is difficult it doesn't

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mean you should not try to do it in life. I suspect there are many young

:43:14.:43:16.

people across Scotland over the last couple of years have picked up a

:43:17.:43:21.

tennis racket because of the inspiration of Andy and Jamie Murray

:43:22.:43:24.

and Gordon Reid. They may not become the world class players that these

:43:25.:43:28.

three are, but nevertheless the inspiration will be important to

:43:29.:43:32.

them. It is right that we support our elite sportsmen and women.

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Christine Grahame is right and Brian Whittle was right. We also have two

:43:37.:43:42.

support grassroots facilities and participation. That's what part of

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the legacy of the Commonwealth Games was about increased facilities

:43:47.:43:49.

across the country. A performance centre that I spoke about earlier is

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one of many new facilities and enhance facilities across the

:43:55.:43:57.

country. It's about getting the balance right so that we have got

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not just the sport success to celebrate, but we are supporting a

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population that is generally becoming healthier and fitter. How

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were cutting the sport budget as proposed in the draft budget

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encourage more people in working class communities to engage in

:44:15.:44:21.

sport? We support sport in many ways. For example, our investment in

:44:22.:44:31.

facilities, our investment through schools, sports, our investment in

:44:32.:44:35.

major events. This is about the different ways in which we support

:44:36.:44:40.

people who are taking part in activities. One of the things I do

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think we have to do is get young people at a much earlier age into

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the habit of activity and sport. That is why and I mentioned it

:44:51.:44:55.

earlier on, the daily mile is such a simple thing, but such a potentially

:44:56.:44:58.

transformational thing because at a very young age, I was at a school in

:44:59.:45:04.

Edinburgh not along time ago where it was the nursery school kids who

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were doing the daily mile. All of these things taken together are

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important and whatever our political agreements are, all of us in the

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Chamber should be to get behind that. Tyles the First Minister what

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is the Scottish Government's response to the issue of hundreds of

:45:28.:45:34.

adolescent mental health patients waiting for treatment? It's

:45:35.:45:36.

unacceptable. The mental health Minister has been clear with health

:45:37.:45:42.

boards that any falls in the performance or children experiencing

:45:43.:45:45.

long waits is not good enough. It is though, and this is not intended to

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take away the from the comments I've already made, but progress is being

:45:50.:45:54.

made. The number of patients who waited at the 52 weeks has decreased

:45:55.:45:57.

according to the figures we have got for the latest quarter. So there is

:45:58.:46:02.

work to be done. I have said much in this Chamber before and I will say

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much more in the weeks and months ahead about the importance of mental

:46:08.:46:10.

health care. There is lot to be done, but progress being made.

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I thank the First Minister for the question. I know that the First

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Minister is a wheel that many young LGBT people have been struggling

:46:33.:46:37.

with health as a result of bullying. The result shows that as a result of

:46:38.:46:44.

LGBT people who have been experiencing doing has a long term

:46:45.:46:50.

impact on well-being. What resources can tackle mental health and will be

:46:51.:46:57.

central to the strategy, and include specific actions for named

:46:58.:47:00.

vulnerable groups more at risk of vulnerable health? Something that

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one or those -- Barnardos have expressed. That First Minister has

:47:09.:47:15.

expressed support for the campaign, will she now commit to legislation

:47:16.:47:18.

coming forward in this Parliament, it is such a serious issue and

:47:19.:47:22.

support rate across the chamber. No action coming forward. I think the

:47:23.:47:28.

member raises important issues, and has done that in a constructive way.

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I do not think it is fair to say that no action has been coming

:47:34.:47:36.

forward. I appreciate that she thinks we should be doing more,

:47:37.:47:40.

faster, but we have a good deal of consensus about what we need to do.

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She fair point, makes the point, although we have a dedicated mental

:47:47.:47:50.

health Minister, it is not hugely the responsibility of the Minister.

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And a good point between the linkages of mental health and

:47:56.:48:00.

education. The strategy will look at this, particularly in education. It

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is as much about prevention as it is treating mental health issues. She

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is also absolutely correct to talk about the issues that linkages

:48:12.:48:18.

people can face, because of homophobic bullying. I am a

:48:19.:48:21.

supporter of the campaign, not just because of objectives but also the

:48:22.:48:26.

way that the core vote, and we have a commitment to take forward the

:48:27.:48:31.

issues that they have released with the government. We will do that in

:48:32.:48:37.

consultation with him. A lot of substance and detail in this, across

:48:38.:48:43.

a whole range of areas of government responsibility. It is important that

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we get this correct, and the Middle Hill strategy will be published

:48:48.:48:52.

shortly. That provides the direction of travel. And of course, that

:48:53.:48:59.

strategy is backed by additional resources for mental health.

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Spending on mental health resources has increased dramatically over the

:49:03.:49:05.

course of the last few years but more funding is needed. Supporting

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more services, not just treatment but prevention. I genuinely hope

:49:11.:49:16.

that when we're going to have spirited debate, we can get behind

:49:17.:49:19.

their actions that we need to take over the course of this Parliament

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to make substantial changes, to the benefit of young people across the

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country. Thank you. That includes First Minister's Questions. We have

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that. The conclusions. It was rather rowdy! But they seemed relatively

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well-behaved. Watching that with me were Lynsey Bews, Scottish Political

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Reporter for the Press Agency, and the political commentator Hamish

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Macdonell. According to Ruth Davidson, it was a combination of

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the A Team and Green Lantern flying in! Some different interpretations.

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I think it is a good rule of thumb, that if you see how many times the

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First Minister actually thanks people who work in the public

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sector, you can see how difficult she finds those questions. Five

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teams, she thanked people who work in the public sector. Ruth Davidson

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was saying, if the Scottish of service is so good, why have we been

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taking people from England to help. And the Sturgeon was trained to

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avoid any suggestion that people have been coming over the border,

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because she knows is the Scottish of service in comparison to England.

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Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Dundee. Some different

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interpretation of these were going to be brand-new devices. Nicola

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Sturgeon said these are going to be add ons? Opponents feel that she was

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playing their stone because they have apparently been delayed? It

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seemed to be a bigger announcement at the time but she seems to be

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backtracking on that, and said that we are just going to be making some

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tweaks. She can talk about it being a complicated process, a lot of

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things needing to be considered before these trauma centres can

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officially open... But ultimately people are just good to look at the

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headline, three year delay. It was a difficult set of questions for the

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First Minister, those adopting said that some lives could be lost. Hyped

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up. But tricky. Kezia Dugdale really using that the plane, that this

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could be equally funded, highlighting the importance of

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different consent. I'm running and fixing some of the issues. It does

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not wash to compare to England. Heard that so many times. Wearing

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thin. The answer from the First Minister was that we had changed

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parameters, different configurations on these centres. And that was

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correct to rethink? I think she was almost a victim of spin. It is not

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the First Minister's fault that these centres have been the top, so

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Winnie had not been delivered, she has got to play down the

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expectations. Not actually new centres. It is a difference between

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expectation and the delivery. I think she has to take the blame for

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hyping this up. But able to cite expert evidence, that it is much

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better in Scotland than south of the border. Better than them? But we

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should not be measuring ourselves... The First Minister said that she was

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not. But the Scottish Government do usually measure themselves in

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performance against the rest of the United Kingdom. It is difficult not

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to hold on to that when this comes along. This question of health

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spending, we are going to come to the budget shortly, big generally?

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It is getting some traction? It is similar to education. People are

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scrutinising what is going on in the Hill service. Look at the Queen

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Elizabeth Hospital in Glasgow. Team sent in to sort out an all time low

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performance. When that hospital opened in 2015, issues then, and if

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anything it has got worse. The pressure is going to remain on the

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First Minister. We can talk about the question of the budget. But we

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can show some exchanges from the Finance committee yesterday. Derek

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Mackay set out the draft budget, the SNP do not have the majority at

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Holyrood, so he has got to convince another party to back the budget or

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abstain. He had a hard time. You have taken the position to create a

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tax differential, in terms of income tax, and you will be aware of

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concerns raised by business organisations among others that it

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is a risk, Scotland being the highest taxed part of the United

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Kingdom. The impact that could have on the ability to attract

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investment. The message that Scotland is high tax is put out by

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the Conservatives and I think that is unhelpful when it is about the

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way to package and quality of life in Scotland. I think that message

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should not be put about by the Conservatives. Certainly, Scotland

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continues to be a good place to live, work, invest. Do business. But

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because you have shied away from using new tax powers, we know

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councils have got less money, and need to make cuts. That is going to

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affect local services. I believe when you look at the two to package

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for government and local services it is fair. You talked about increasing

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the threshold by the higher rate of inflation. That is the maximum of

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what you said was to be considered in the manifesto. He said increasing

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by a maximum of inflation. Why are you doing the maximum of what you

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set out as something you consider? What we're doing is in line with

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inflation. We take tax decisions year to year. That is the position

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that we have put across. That is the figure in line with inflation. That

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seems like the correct thing to do. It is our judgment. Patrick Harvie

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has got a different opinion on the structure of income tax. We feel

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that that fits within manifesto commitment, commands the support of

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the people and is fair. Gives certainty. It was a tough time for

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the finance secretary, standing his ground. We had questions today,

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almost a shopping list from Willie Rennie of the Liberal Democrats and

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Patrick Harvie of the dreams. The undercurrent was the budget. She

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either has to go with the Liberal Democrats, find some concessions

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that will get the Liberal Democrats on board or get some similar

:56:27.:56:32.

concessions for the Greens. Liberal Democrats, she said I thought you

:56:33.:56:39.

wanted mental health money? But she also offered a clear message to

:56:40.:56:42.

Willie Rennie, the finance secretary's door is open. We can

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discuss the shopping list. Also, Patrick Harvie on the subject, the

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top pop to child benefit. Perhaps just keener to do a deal with Lib

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Dems? Memories of the previous coalition? I suspect that Willie

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Rennie is going to be the front runner because Patrick Harvie is so

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far away from the SNP on tax. Of all the parties, the focus away on

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agreeing on that. And giving Derek Mackay a hard time. Willie Rennie,

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if you can get something on mental health then a deal could be done.

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They need something on education because he need such a big point of

:57:27.:57:30.

education during the election. And the Liberal Democrats are way away

:57:31.:57:37.

from the SNP on tax. But Derek Mackay does not want to shift. But

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the Liberal Democrats want to do a deal, they want to be seen as

:57:42.:57:48.

relevant. They have not played a part in government here for ten

:57:49.:57:53.

years. They are going to drive a hard bargain but want to do a deal.

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And if the deal is done, this could almost be an apocalyptic stuff.

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Bringing down the government. -- is not. It is. And we saw more from the

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minority administration. They really need to move on this, in the

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direction of the Liberal Democrats. And the door is open. We know that.

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Thank you. We're coming to the close of the coverage of the very first

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First Minister's Questions of 2017. The topics familiar but good

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exchanges on the Hill service. And absolutely intriguing exchanges with

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the Greens and Liberal Democrats, basically the budget and the bedding

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taking place. I am looking forward to the weekend, Dundee United

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against Queen of the South at Tannadice. A win for once would be

:58:47.:58:51.

nice! Just in this New Year. It would make a difference. From me,

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toodle for now. For two centuries,

:58:56.:59:02.

it has told Scotland's stories. The Scotsman is one of the most

:59:03.:59:05.

prestigious names in the Now the people behind the headlines

:59:06.:59:07.

tell the incredible story of the paper itself.

:59:08.:59:12.

It could get quite hairy. This was real

:59:13.:59:15.

seat-of-the-pants stuff. I went down to the newsroom,

:59:16.:59:17.

opened the door and I thought, "I've come home."

:59:18.:59:19.

You're actually recording history.

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