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Hello and a warm welcome to the Scottish parliament here at

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Holyrood. There are talks in the Treasury over the fiscal framework

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that will determine the budget after the new tax powers come Holyrood's

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way. A policy adviser to whether the policies adopted by the Scottish

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government really help all that much in addressing the issue of poverty.

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Those topics may come up on questions to the First Minister.

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There is only one way to find out, which is to cross to the chamber.

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A round of applause and a warm welcome to Parliament to dignitaries

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visiting from one of Pakistan's provinces.

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I will ask the First Minister what engagement she is planning for the

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day. The governor's programme for Scotland. Yesterday, the First

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Minister's policy adviser said that many Jota living in poverty live in

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working has ours. They still struggle to make ends meet. The

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First Minister claims that every three and four-year-old has access

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to 16 hours of free early learning and childcare week. It sounds good,

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but parents know it just isn't true. Time and again, I meet mothers who

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say they cannot get a place for their child that they are told is

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their right. Last year in this chamber, the First Minister said she

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was working with local councils to deliver on her pledge. So can she

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tell us whether council funding to deliver 16 hours of free early

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learning and childcare has gone up or down in the draft budget for next

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year after Mark firstly, can I also welcome the report that was

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published yesterday by the poverty adviser. It is a solid report that

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makes a number of recommendations that this government will consider

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very seriously indeed. I note that the poverty adviser says that the

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policy decisions taken by this Scottish government have, and I

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quote, been important in protecting people from poverty. As Kezia

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Dugdale is aware, the Government currently funds 16 hours a week for

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children of three and four years old, and horrible two-year-olds. It

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remains the case that as well as funding that provision in a global

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sense, we're working with councils to improve the flexibility of that

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provision so it better fits in with the working patterns of parents. We

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also determined over the life of the next Parliament, should the people

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of Scotland re-elect us in May, two double provision of childcare for

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young people. This is important to parents you will be listening to

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this. The poverty adviser said yesterday that as well as quantity,

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quality was important, which is why I also announced ?1 million to pilot

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different ways of delivering that expanded childcare. that is our

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policy on childcare. It will be judged in a you months, on our

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record on that, we are still waiting to hear what Labour's policy is. In

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all of that, there was not even an attempt to answer the question that

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I asked. APPLAUSE

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The honest answer is that the council childcare funding is being

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cut by this government's budget. Affordable and flexible childcare is

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key to helping people in work get out of poverty. Yet this SNP

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government's solution is to cut the childcare budget and slash funding

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for local services. We know the First Minister's promise is on

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childcare are not being delivered. What about her latest pledge to

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almost double the number of free childcare hours by 2020? A few

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months ago, the first list was asked about how these plans be delivered.

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She said, we're working with local authorities to determine the

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extension of capacity that will be required. That will be a mix of new

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build an extension of current local authority capacity. Two months on,

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can be First Minister tells how the extra nurseries need to be built to

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fulfil that promise customer the promised a matter left me take as

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yet Dugdale's points in order. In terms of our current policy, we are

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funding the expansion of childcare that we committed to in this

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Parliament. Just to remind people who may be listening to this, in

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2007, Young people, three and four-year-olds, were entitled to go

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.5 hours of free childcare... We have extended that and have taken

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the extra step to its lending it to vulnerable to-year-olds as well.

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That is the measure of the commitment. The commitment that

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Kezia Dugdale referred to do, and I'm happy that she thinks that we

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will be in power, I take that as an endorsement of the election campaign

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at this early stage. As I said previously, in response to Ruth

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Davidson on that occasion, we're doing detailed work with local

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authorities to plan for that expansion, which will take place

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over the period of the next Parliament. That will be a mix and

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we don't yet know exact about that next will be because we are still

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working to plan for that expansion. It will be a mix of new build. That

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is why I have described it as the most important capital investment of

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the next Parliament, but it will also involve existing buildings that

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local authorities already use. I have for the said it will involve

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childminders. One of the things that came up yesterday was written in

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relation to lend it childcare. We have to look at these issues

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seriously and robust lead. Kezia Dugdale is still to set out what

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Labour's policy on childcare is. I know what mine is, I know what work

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doing to deliver it. We just have a vacuum coming from the benches

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opposite. The First Minister does not know how many nursery she needs,

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but campaigning mothers do. 650 new nurseries would have to be built to

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accommodate the extra places needed because of the First Minister's

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latest pledge. She has just ascribe it as the biggest capital

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expenditure of the next Parliament. But John Sweeney's budget this year

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cuts capital funding for nurseries by 56%. By the First Minister's own

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admission, it would cost ?880 million to deliver on her new pledge

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in running costs alone. Yet, at the same time, she is taking half ?1

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billion out of council budgets. Let us get this clear. The First

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Minister needs 650 new nurseries but she has cut the capital budget to

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build them. She needs ?880 million to expand childcare services, but

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she has lashed council budgets by ?500 million. Only in the world of

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the SNP will that deliver a childcare revolution. The First

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Minister's childcare policy is a mess. Issue hoping that parents --

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is she hoping that parents are just too busy to notice after Mark to be

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fair to Kezia Dugdale, I know that her day-to-day working expense

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involves a rather large mass, otherwise known as the Labour Party.

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So no wonder... Order! No wonder it is uppermost in her mind. She

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forgets some of the key points. She mentions firstly capital funding for

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local authorities. She will be aware, or if she is not aware, she

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should be, because John Sweeney has outlined it, the budget of local

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authorities has been repo filed -- re-profile. In terms of the overall

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council budgets come as I said last week, and I think the week before,

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in terms of the overall revenue expenditure of local authorities,

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they are looking at a 2% reduction, and that is before we take account

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of additional resources for social care, additional resources through

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the attainment fund and the additional investment we plan over

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the life of the next Parliament in transforming the provision of

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childcare. I say again, presiding officer, those are our plans. We

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have set them out and we will set out the budgets that support those

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plans. If Kezia Dugdale really wants to give people in this country a

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choice in just a few months, she has to do more than wine from the

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opposition benches. She has to give an alternative. So far, there ain't

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no alternative from the Labour Party whatsoever.

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It is not a 56% cut, it has just been re-profiled. Almost a year ago,

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the first men is that told me that she had looked campaigning mothers

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in the eye and told them that she reflects Scotland's child care

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albums. The more parents here, the less they believe. Just me or my

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record, says the First Minister. Here it is will stop promises not

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delivered, budgets cut and parents let down. Instead of delivering what

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families really need, isn't it the case that the SNP's childcare plan

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is just one great big con. We have guaranteed local governments a

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maintained share of the overall Scottish government capital budget.

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That is the reality. It might not suit the Labour Party's increasingly

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desperate narrative but nonetheless those are the facts. Just to come

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back to the central issue, I can point to the achievement of this

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government in childcare over the life of this Parliament and the last

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Parliament. And three and four-year olds are entitled to 45% more

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childcare now than they were when Labour was in office. To-year-olds

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are entitled to childcare that none of them were entitled to when Labour

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was in office. Not only that, I can point to clear plans for how we are

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going to transform childcare over the next Parliament. As the policy

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adviser says, not only are we allowing more parents, mothers in

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particular, to get into work we are also supporting young people with

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the best start in life. Those are our achievements and our plans, and

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the people of Scotland will judge them, presiding officer. When they

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are making that judgment, they will also look at what is the alternative

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and I say again, Kezia Dugdale has said zero about what the Labour

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Party will do for childcare, and that is why the people of Scotland

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are casting their judgment on Labour, and their judgment is to

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keep them firmly in opposition. Question number two. Ruth Davidson.

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I will ask the First Minister which will next meet the Prime Minister.

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No plans at present. This morning, we learned that the number of school

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inspections has fallen from 491 in 2004 2005, to just 137 last year. A

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drop of 70%. Inspections are a vital means of providing parents with the

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necessary information to make decisions about their children's

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schooling. Last year, fewer than 6% of Scotland's schools were

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inspected. Under the SNP, a child can go right through their school

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career without ever having had their school assessed. If that rate keeps

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up, it will take 19 years to get around all of Scotland's schools

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once. Given that, does the first minute to think that parents are

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getting the information they deserve when it comes to looking at local

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schools? Let me say two things about that. First, as Ruth Davidson knows,

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education Scotland undertakes a wide range of programmes to ensure the

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quality of education that is provided by as schools. During the

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period of the meditation of curriculum for excellence, there was

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a deliberate, and I think, correct decision to reallocate resources to

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other activities to oversee the implementation of curriculum for

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excellence. During that period, inspectors were deployed to

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undertake, support decisions. It was recognised in a report recently,

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immolation to the information, education Scotland has been a

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linchpin in providing guidance, quality and resource assurance. I

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saw the Chief Inspector right to this effect if you days ago, there

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will be an inspection in the coming years permitted by Utah's

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improvement activity, in particular making sure that we use the resource

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of the new attainment advises that are working on the attainment

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challenge. Briefly, the second thing I would say is that Ruth Davidson

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knows my commitment set out in the national improvement framework that

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I published in the first week in January to fast league expand --

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give us the transform the information available to parents and

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the public about performance in our schools. In the next couple of

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years, people will be able to look at performance of pupils in the

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school and compare that. The direction... It was a straight

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question, and the First Minister did not want to give a straight answer.

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I will give one. No, parents are not getting the information they

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deserve. They are told by the education establishment that it

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knows best and everybody else will just have to lump it. One former

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director of education said in the press this morning that inspections

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are now, and I quote, virtually useless as a source of information

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for parents. The First Minister this morning and a previous days in this

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chamber asked how opposition parties to propose how to improve the system

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if they contain about it. We say this, it is time to re-establish an

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independent inspectorate, outwith the arms of the Scottish government,

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so that parents know when their school is measured, it is done

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entirely separately from those people who are setting the policy.

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We want more transparency of information for parents and a regime

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that execs high standards and are proven from coasting schools,

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parents given regular and up-to-date information. Does the First Minister

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back that plan? Firstly, the Inspectorate is

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independent and does demand high standards from schools. Local

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authorities also have a duty to make sure that the quality of education

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is what we would expect. I have outlined why and what the

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Inspectorate was focusing on during the period of curriculum for

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excellence and to increase the number of inspections over the next

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few years. I want to do more than Ruth Davidson has outline there. I

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want to give more information about the performance of pupils in primary

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schools and lower secondary schools because at the moment we don't have

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that. Under the national improvement framework, once that is established,

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we will see the percentages of pupils in every primary school

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across our country who are achieving the different required levels of

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curriculum for excellence. This is a revolution in transparency in

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Scottish education. For the first time, the public will be able to

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look at that and see schools that are doing well and less well and

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give all abuzz the information we need to drive further improvement. I

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am much more ambitious in terms of transparency than Ruth Davidson is.

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A number of constituency questions. Graham Day. The First Minister will

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be aware of the problems for Johnson press, raising the concerns over the

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future of important local newspapers and with jobs at stakes. Will the

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Scottish Government engage with the company to ensure these newspapers

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have a future? Thank you for an important question. I give him the

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assurance that we will seek to engage with the company and with

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every company where thereafter potential job losses, the

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arrangements we put in place will be available primarily through pace. We

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need a dynamic media and all others will be concerned by this latest

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announcement on the back of a recent announcement about job losses in

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other areas of the media. All of us have a duty to make sure that we

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have a properly resourced media in this country and to hold all of ours

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to account and contribute to the national debate that we all want. It

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was announced this week that 80 jobs would be lost at a technology

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company in my constituency and that the number could be higher because

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it doesn't include contract staff. The company has lost 2000 jobs

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worldwide since January last year and there is real concern about job

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security. My constituents are worried that there is very little

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chance of them finding other employment in the oil and gas

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industry. What action will the government take at this time of high

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job losses? We are aware of the situation that the member outlines

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and the government will be engaging with the company and as I said in

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response to Graham Day, we make available to the workforce of any

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workforce in this situation all that we can to help those facing

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redundancy. I'm sure the enterprise minister will be happy to meet with

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the member to discuss this particular case in more detail. The

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First Minister will be aware of the announcement of 100 job losses at

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Marine is in the Highlands and Islands and many in my constituency.

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This is a large number of jobs for a small community to lose. Will the

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First Minister ensure that all will be done to assist those who may lose

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their jobs and outline what measures the government will be putting in

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place to help with this serious matter. In the case of the previous

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two companies, this will be an anxious time for the employees and

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their families. The Scottish Government is in contact with the

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company and it has approached Highlands and Islands enterprise to

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identify new job opportunities. I will shortly be meeting the company

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and discussing what can be done to support staff. We remain fully

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supportive of the sector which is key in the supporting employment in

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remote coastal communities. It is estimated to generate economic

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activity worth more than ?1.8 billion per year. Supporting those

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jobs is extremely important and the government will recognise that. What

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issues will be discussed at the next meeting of the Cabinet? That is of

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importance to The People of Scotland. This week, I have received

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a letter from Amazon in London. The Scottish Government paid almost ?1

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million to the company last year despite them paying less than the

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living wage. Is it right to help companies that pay such low wages?

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All companies should play the taxes they are due to pain. We take tax

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avoidance very seriously. I want us to have more tax responsibilities,

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something Willie Rennie argued of the suspiciously against. We will

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continue to stand up for fairness and the company is paying the tax

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that they are due. We take a different view to the one that

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Willie Rennie articulated in Dundee on Monday where he suggested that

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five would be better off without the jobs that are offered by Amazon. I

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am sure that The People working in that company would take a very

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different view. I know she finds it difficult to listen to anybody else.

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The question was about wages and not about tax. I'll leave her if she is

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too embarrassed to do it to defend low wages. Nobody is saying that as

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an should close but I want the government to support good jobs.

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Amazon workers have been in touch this week as well and have confirmed

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what I have said. It is an exceptionally horrible place. The

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employment agencies cream off from everybody's wages. Meanwhile, this

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is about tax, Amazon pays hardly any tax in this country. The poverty

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Alliance promotes the living wage. Order! They get a small grant from

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the Scottish Government. It is a brilliant project. Why give Amazon

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four times as much money for low wages as you give the poverty

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Alliance to champion the living wage? Will the First Minister make a

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commitment not to give any more grants to companies without wage

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guarantees? My apologies to Willie Rennie if he missed his first

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question. My comments on tax stand, though. This government is arguably

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doing more than any other government across the UK to promote the living

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wage. The living wage accreditation scheme has 400 companies signed up

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to it and there are more people in Scotland paid the living wage in any

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part of the country apart from the south-east. We will continue to work

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directly with companies to sign up to and paid a living wage. I will

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ask Susanna Cunningham, the fair work minister, the only cabinet in

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the country that has a minister for their work. To engage with Amazon

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and other companies to get more people paid the living wage. We will

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make sure that we stand up for recent wages across Scotland. To ask

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the First Minister what the Scottish Government's position is on the

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resolution foundation report the state of working Scotland? I welcome

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the findings of the report. Particularly the finding that pay in

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Scotland has risen faster in any other nation or region in the UK. I

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am proud of our commitment to the living wage that means that 80% of

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people in Scotland are paid at least the living wage. There are 400

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living wage accredited employers. The rise of pay in Scotland will be

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attributed to that and incomes of family fell less than anywhere else

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in the UK. The report has given valuable analysis that will help us

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continue to improve on progress. I was pleased to see statistics

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yesterday on employment showing Scotland now has the highest level

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of wages of countries in the UK. Scotland is showing that we can

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tackle inequality in the economy. What action will she be taking to

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build on this good foundation to increase jobs and wages? The member

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is right to note the progress of wages and employment this week. Can

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I take the opportunity to welcome the figures showing the rise in

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employment in Scotland to record levels and the substantial drop in

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unemployment. That is all progress. There is no room for complacency and

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we are working to do more both in terms of employment and in terms of

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wages. Economic strategy sets out a mutually supportive goal of

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increasing competitiveness and tackling inequality and we will

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continue to make sure that we support the living wage

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accreditation scheme to make sure that as we see Empoli and hopefully

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increase in Scotland, that is fair work with people getting a decent

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days wage for a day's work. In light of the fall in oil prices when will

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the Scottish Government publish an updated oil and gas bulletin

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focusing on jobs? The focus is on what we can do to support the

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industry and the workforce who are facing uncertainty at a worrying

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time for them. We continue to do all we can within devolved powers to

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help the sector. Last year, I set of the energy jobs task force that has

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already helped over 2000 individuals and 100 employers through the

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current downturn and it will continue to support innovation and

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progress. It has been six months since the last bulletin was slipped

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out on the last day of term. In the intervening time, oil has dropped to

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$27 a barrel. Industry experts predict it will drop to 20 dollars

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per arrow. We cannot afford to lose these jobs and skills in the future.

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What will be First Minister do to protect these jobs and wench will

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she publish this platoon? We will do all we can to support the industry

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and the jobs that are dependent on it. For example, the Scottish

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Cabinet will hold a special session on Tuesday attended by Lena Wilson,

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the chair of the oil and gas task force to look at what the task force

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has done already and what it can do to support those in the industry. I

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wrote to the Prime Minister yesterday urging him to agree with

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me to accelerate the finalisation of a city deal for Aberdeen, funded

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jointly by the UK and Scottish Government so that we can help

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Aberdeen and Aberdeenshire Council with the investment that the city

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needs. We will also continue to call the UK Government to make sure there

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is an appropriate fiscal regime for the North Sea. I note the comments

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both of the peak last week when they said announcing the regrettable job

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losses that they were confident in the long-term future of oil in the

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North Sea. Also oil and gas UK and their comments on the future of the

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sector if we do the right things now. We are determined to do the

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right things down and we call on the UK Government to do the same. The

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First Minister will be aware that there has been a report saying that

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the oil and gas is sector could have a sustainable future with the

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correct support. Would she agree that vocal campaign for divestments

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in oil and gas from pension companies are damaging to the

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industry. Anything that undermines the industry at this time is

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unhelpful. It was a very helpful report and it is one of the many

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things that the Cabinet will discuss as we work out what we can do to

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support the industry at this time. What discussions has the Scottish

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Government had with the UK Government regarding the possible

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reintroduction of the post study work Visa? Since the Smith

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Commission report the government has remained committed to work with the

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UK counterpart to ensure that a post study Visa is reintroduced in

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Scotland. This has been the subject of many meetings. We are

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disappointed and rather angry that the Secretary of State for Scotland

:30:25.:30:26.

recently indicated without any real consultation that there is no

:30:27.:30:31.

intention on the part of the UK Government to reintroduce the post

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study work Visa for Scotland. I understand that the Minister intends

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to meet with the steering group and hope that the UK Government would

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take the concerns of the Scottish Government and the United voice of

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Scottish stakeholders further on board. There is a consensus in this

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Parliament to reintroduce the post study work Visa and I think it is

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time that the UK Government got on and did it. I thank the First

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Minister for that answer. Would she agree with me that not only do the

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students benefit but the Scottish economy and society benefits from

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having these people living here? I agree wholeheartedly with that. If

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we are going to educate the best and brightest people from all over the

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world, it makes sense to try and encourage them to make a

:31:25.:31:30.

contribution in our economy. To give something back to economic and

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social life here in Scotland. We know that people come to Scotland

:31:34.:31:36.

from all parts of the world and make a real and rich contribution to our

:31:37.:31:42.

society, just as Scots do in other parts of the world. The UK

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Government's actions here are short-sighted and wrong-headed and I

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urge them to change their minds if there is any credence to what we

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hear about a respect agenda, they will do something about it. Thank

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you. That ends First Minister's Questions. That is all from us. Time

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to say to the loo. investigation suggested that that

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poster of Ed Miliband in Alex Salmond's pocket had quite a big

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effect on voters in England to get them to go back to the Conservatives

:32:22.:32:28.

and that cost ?950. That's a tribute, I think, to Crosby. Not

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just him. The Saatchis. The texter, who is a brilliant pollster, he

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heard the concerns of people in the focus groups. Turned it into a

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image. You play back to people their fears and concerns, a great image

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like a great line goes around the world quickly. Basically, it is the

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inspiration of finding the right words and then the image that

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captures it. And sticking at T Labour had too many messages. Linton

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Crosby's one of his great advantages he brings to a campaign, he sits on

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people. Politicians want

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