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A a very warm welcome to the Scottish Parliament here at

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Holyrood. The Budget has been discussed here. It has been

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discussed at Westminster, John Swinney was quizzed on it. Let's

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see what comes up on First Minister's Questions. The devil is

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often in the detail with the Budget. Politicians and officials will be

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We welcome plans from GlaxoSmithKline to invest and

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create 100 new jobs so. This major investment reinforces Scotland's

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global reputation in life sciences. I also welcome the fact that the

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Chancellor responded to John Swinney's proposal. The granting of

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enhanced capital allowances. I am sure we'll remember the Chancellor

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generously acknowledging that was a John Swinney proposal when he made

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his Budget statement yesterday. I welcome the development, as indeed

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the chamber does, and they look forward to announcing further

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investment in these areas in I am sure you will enjoy your visit,

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and we always welcome glimmers of hope in terms of employment and

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investment in communities across Scotland. Very few of us agree with

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the approach taken by the Tories in terms of the health service. I was

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glad last month when the First Minister told us that Scotland is

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choosing a different path. Since then we find out more about the

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path taken by the First Minister and it seems to have been a

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downhill gradient. Decreasing standards in elderly care, cuts to

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social care budgets, and patients going without blankets. Even the

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good statistics, as we found out yesterday, cannot be trusted.

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Before he rhymes of the statistics he has already prepared, can ask,

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why should we trust him? I think we should look at the record,

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particularly public satisfaction with the health service in Scotland

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which is at a record level. The ultimate verdict is passed by the

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people and their confidence in their National Health Service. That

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is in direct contrast to what is happening south of the border.

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There, many people are wondering if they are going to have a National

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Health Service worthy of the name. This Government is totally

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committed to a National Health Service in Scotland. I think the

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point of the Scottish Parliament is that we cannot aspire to better

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than what the Tories are offering us at Westminster. But we do expect

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your record to be better as well. Can we look first of all at what

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experts have been saying. The Royal College of Nursing says there are

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not enough nurses to provide basic, safe care. All that Scotland is

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warning that councils and health boards are failing to insure a

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vital care services can be delivered in the future. The Centre

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for Public Policy in the regions says since 2006, Scotland has been

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lagging behind resources. Does the First Minister think they are all

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wrong as well? Let's look at qualified nurses and midwives.

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There are more qualified nurses and midwives in Scotland than there

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were in 2006. Let's look at it in comparison with the other countries

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in these islands. Per head of a thousand population, we have a

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eight nurses and midwives. Compared to 5.9 in England. 7.6 in Northern

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Ireland. I think that indicates the huge priority that this Government,

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and this Parliament, invests in our National Health Service. Joanna

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Lamond and says, that is not much comparison, comparing what we're

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doing in Scotland as a united Parliament in terms of preserving

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the National Health Service, and what is happening in England. We

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could look at what is happening in Wales at the present moment. The

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sole area at in these islands where the Labour Party is in government.

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I have got great sympathy for the Welsh Government, and the pressure

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they are under it in terms of the Westminster government. We are

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under the same pressure, but the Welsh government decided not to

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protect the revenue budget of the National Health Service in real

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terms. It is due to fall by eight 8% between 2011 and 24 teams.

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Unlike the decision made by this administration to protect the

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revenue budget of the National Health Service in real terms. So,

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the contrast is not just between Scotland and the SNP and the Tories

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at Westminster. The contrast is between the SNP in Scotland and

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Labour in Wales. And I think the vast majority of people in Scotland

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will support the policy of this government to protect our National

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Health Service. First of all, your budget has been cut by �319 million.

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Secondly, the substance of that answer was that the nurses' union

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is wrong. To talk about Wales, we would like him to focus on his

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responsibilities as First Minister here. Because he talks on these

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benches, we would love to be in his position, I can assure you. The

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rhetoric of this Government does not fit with reality. The First

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Minister does not accept the picture painted by the experts.

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What can he say to hell Macbeth? She was very ill and the Royal

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Alexandra Hospital. She spent her first night frozen because staff

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were unable to get her a blanket. She had to rely on her daughter

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bringing one in for her the next day. They great-grandfather went in

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to the hospital for a serious operation. Three nights in hospital

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with only his beach towel to keep him warm. Does the First Minister

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realise it is not enough to say you are protecting the NHS, you

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actually have to do it. The Health Secretary has indicated that she is

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prepared to look into any case in the national herd -- National

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Health Service were care does not meet standards. This is a huge

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priority for this Government. Jackie Baillie has already had to

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apologise about her scare stories about shortages of blankets which

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turned out to be untrue. She is very well aware of this. I know

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that the survey, which was not a Scottish survey, which is published

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this week indicated concern by nurses. However there has been that

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surveys by it the RCN that did have Scottish input. There was one in

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April 2006 were 4,000 nurses were questioned in Scotland. In that

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survey, two-thirds of nurses said the Government prevented them

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providing the standard of care they wanted. That has declined to 50%. I

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would like to have a situation where no nurse was concerned about

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the pressure of work. But by any standards, that represents an

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improvement to when a Labour were in Office. Let's remember that when

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Labour were in office, their incompetence and financial

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management meant they could not even spend the Scottish budget that

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was allocated we have been protecting the National Health

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Service against the most ferocious cuts for many generations. That is

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why we stand proudly on our record on Scotland's National Health

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Service. It is one thing for the First Minister to repeat his

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version of his record. He has to confront the reality of what is

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happening to people's lives. It is one thing to attack Jackie Baillie,

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but it is another to attack those who are raising concerns about the

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National Health Service. We have established the First Minister will

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not listen to me, or listen to independent voices. Will he listen

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to people suffering from his mismanagement of the NHS? The

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people I spoke about are sitting in the public gallery. We found at

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least 7 recent cases of patients going without blankets at the Royal

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Alexandra Hospital. The Government denied it. I was called to

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investigate my own health spokesperson for having the

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audacity to give a voice to the complaints of her own constituents.

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The reality is, if you read the newspaper, he would have seen our

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claims are true. If the First Minister does not believe me, why

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doesn't he come and meet with the two constituents and explain that

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we do not have a problem with the NHS. Explain it is a figment of

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Jackie Baillie's imagination. They will tell him what the NHS is

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really like. When is the First Minister going to stop the rhetoric

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and face up to the reality of his own responsibilities? I said

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specifically that the Health Secretary would investigate any

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case in the National Health Service where treatment fell below our

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expectations, and she would be delighted to meet the patients

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concerned or any other people who experience care which is less than

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what all of us would expect. That is why I said it in my last answer.

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I did not criticise the nurses of Scotland. I pointed out we would

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love to have a situation where nurses were not concerned about

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numbers and standards of care. I merely pointed out that surveys

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showed that the standard of care is improving from when Labour were in

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power. But we should not be surprised about that. In 2007 when

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this government came to office, the Government them said that the

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National Health Service would just have to cut its cloth. It would not

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get any consequential as whatsoever. That was their policies. During the

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recent election campaign, Iain Gray said in Newsnight Scotland, we

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would not ring-fence the health budget in Scotland. The reality is,

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thanks to the direction of this government in 2007, the NHS had

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more money spent in it. Thanks to this government last year, the NHS

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had more money spent in it. Given what is happening in Wales, no-one

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can be in any doubt that the only party in Scotland committed to

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protecting the National Health Service and its budget is this SNP

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government! Some nods of satisfaction in the public gallery.

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Whatever that was, it was not taking responsibility. The Health

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Secretary wrote and said the problems with the towels were that

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the staff could not source them. Unison members have been

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complaining for 10 months that this was a serious issues. It is about

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time the Minister took responsibility, defender of the NHS

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and responded to concerns of constituents. I think the health

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board explicitly denied Jackie Baillie's claims as far as we

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cycled towels were concerns. It is not very useful to return to

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something which our health spokesman should be embarrassed

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about. I have got great interest in making sure that every patient

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experiences less than satisfactory care is not just met, but that

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these issues and complaints are dealt with. I am merely pointing

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out that it is beyond argument that if Labour had come to power in 2007,

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if they had come to power last year, there would be less resources spent

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on Scotland's National Health Service. The fact that Joanna

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Lamond was in government in 2007 and deputy leader last year

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indicates that she should hang her head in shame because she was

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prepared to under resource To ask the First Minister when you

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will next meet the Prime Minister? I am not surprised in this light is

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it that is a with some does not want to talk about yesterday's

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budget, particularly the effect on old people across Scotland. Let us

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remember the huge number of people earning under �16,000 who or where

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having to pay descriptions in Scotland before it they were

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rightly abolished by this Government. I can tell her that the

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idea at that you should cut taxes for the richest members of the

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community at the expense of not providing medicines that people can

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afford to was a deeply unpopular in Scotland. But that is nothing new

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for the Scottish Conservative Party. I am happy to talk about the 73,000

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people taking out of tax altogether, but 2.1 people who have seen their

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tax rate rise, but that is not the numbers I asked for it from this

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First Minister. The Government's own figure is that a �130 million

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will be spent funding free prescriptions by the end of this

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month alone. But as �130 million to buy votes at the last election. As

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we heard last week, there is no money for a cancer drug fund. They

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tell us at this week that there is less money for nurses on the front

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line. Despite the protestations of the First Minister today, below us

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numbers of nurses in Scotland for six years. Yesterday, Health Board

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found fiddling the figures because it is missing its targets and today

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the British Medical Association saying that even visiting your

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family doctor means getting treated in sub-standard conditions and in

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crumbling buildings. Government is all about choices. Well First

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Minister now admit that there are far graver needs in Scotland's

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health service than his choice for a free prescription giveaway?

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think pressure on the National Health Service might be something

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to do with the cutbacks taking place in the Westminster Government.

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I am surprised even Ruth Davidson would want to defend the situation

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testified by pharmacists across the country for patients had to choose

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which medicines they took because of prescription charges. I do not

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think mentioning that the British Medical Association is such a good

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idea for Ruth Davidson, as I understand that you were thinking

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of standing candidates against the Conservative Party in England, so

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disgusted are they by the performance of the it Tory

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Government on the health service. I am delighted that recidivism want

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to talk about yesterday's budget, because on television last night

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David Blundell was unable to tell us how many people in Scotland

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would benefit from the cut in top rate tax to and unable to tell us

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how many pensioners would suffer from the pensioners being punished

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in the Budget. I can tell Chris Davidson, up 15,000 top taxpayers

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in Scotland will benefit and 327,000 current pensioners and

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half-a-million future pensioners will be powered -- punished by the

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Tory, Liberal Democrat Coalition. I believe that these 15,000 tax rate

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top -- top rate taxpayers in Scotland would not have wanted

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their bonus to be at the expense of have a pet -- have a million

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pensioners in Scotland, and therein lies our politics -- lies the

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difference in our politics. Punish the pensioners and keep the rich

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happy is the policy of the Tory party. Since the publication of the

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Price Waterhouse Cooper report NHS scandal, I have been approached by

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a number patients and staff who have raised further concerns about

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the management culture and practices there. Well the First

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Minister now instruct a full comprehensive and independent

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review of the whole of NHS West Lothian's activities? A statement

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from the Health Secretary yesterday dealt with that exact point. I do

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not think anyone listening to that statement yesterday could be under

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any and -- any other impression how seriously the health service takes

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the situation and how determined the Health Secretary is to sort

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this out. I do not think this issue to deflect from the reality that

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more people in Scotland right now are satisfied with the NHS than

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ever before. Secondly, all the new ball an enormous amount across the

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health service in Scotland to the dedication and work of the health

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professionals and all of the staff in our National Health Service.

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Cast the First Minister what assurances he can provide to the 60

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strong workforce in our health facing closure? And the nearby

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Nestle plant in Govan are facing a significant redundancies? Will the

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Scottish Government work effectively to mitigate the impact

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on them, their families and the whole of the community? I should

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remember's concern. -- share of the member's concerns. I can confirm we

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will do everything we can to help local Ayrshire people, the

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employees of nicely who may be affected, I understand it company

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itself is committed to finding new jobs for local employees. We will

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do everything we can act to provide support to minimise the time that

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these individuals are affected by redundancies. Caspar First Minister

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of what impact -- what its impact will be of the UK but it on the

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people of Scotland? The budget allocated next to no money full

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resources to support growth in the economy. Indeed, the off at -- the

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Office of budget responsibility say that the Government has announced

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policy measures that have a limited effect on our economic forecast. I

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hear from the Tory benches today the comment on the oil industry. If

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the summit of Tory ambition is to undo part of the Davin -- damage

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that they did in last year's budget, all will no doubt they will blame

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the Liberal Democrats for last year, if that is the summit of the Tory

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party's ambition, then it is hardly surprising that they had been

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reduced to the proposition that they are in Scottish politics.

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he share my concern about George Osborne's budget will do more to

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benefit millionaires than the people of Scotland? The First

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Minister will also be aware that the Chancellor's proposal to freeze

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age-related tax benefits for up pensioners will leave average

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pensioner's �83 worse off in 2013 and 14. Can the First Minister

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indicate what the impact on pensioners and Scotland will be by

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this disgraceful change in pensioner's tax allowances? There

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are 330,000 current pensioners who will be affected by this decision.

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By 2016 and 2017, the effect will be �220 more in income tax and the

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number of pensioners affected will have risen to 500,000. That is half

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a million pensioners that his party has punished and many of them have

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no doubt will be watching this debate and his programme. Can I say

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to the Conservative Party that the pensioner's allowance was first

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introduced by Winston Churchill when he was Chancellor of the

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Exchequer. We have got to the stage for the Conservative Party in terms

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of their determination to pursue their own agenda are prepared to

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punish millions of pensioners across the UK, half a million

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pensioners in Scotland, reverse the policies of Winston Churchill and

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they wonder why next to nobody is voting for them! Just for clarity,

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I wonder if the First Minister welcomes the increase in personal

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tax allowances to over 9,000 -- �9,200, and as he will come up the

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cutting of corporation tax to �14 next month and 22p in 2014? Because

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a Government press release and his own answers today have completely

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ignored those for two very important measures for Scotland.

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John Swinney yesterday welcomed a number of the measures in the

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Budget. It is true, we're tough -- we are helping people out of

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taxation and we welcome this. I wish the Chancellor would be

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prepared to acknowledge John Swinney's role. I think if John

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Swinney, out of the goodness of his heart makes a proposal on 7th

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February, and then I find out it was all Daniel Alexander's

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brilliant idea, I think these things should be corrected. The see

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his point is this. I do not believe that the relatively few number of

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people benefiting in Scotland from the reduction in the top rate tax

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would have wanted to have that benefit at the expense of half-a-

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million pensioners in Scotland. I do not believe that, clearly Gavin

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Brown does, that is the difference between our two parties, which is

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why we are here and he is their! What impact possible changes by the

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UK Government to regional pay awards would have in Scotland.

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Scottish ministers have set pay policy for devolved body --

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devolved bodies. This move could penalise public servants, introduce

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regional pay disparities and pay cuts to implement higher public

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spending as we are. This will do nothing to promote growth or

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furnace and I think the Chancellor should think again. Can he outlined

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what the Scottish Government is doing to offer public sector

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workers under its control some level of security of pay and will

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he express...? Our policy has been consistent. We want to see a

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Scotland where affair may -- fair wage is a living wage. Every

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employee in the Scottish Government are guaranteed from this year at

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least a living wage of �7.20 per hour. Two-thirds of the thousands

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who have benefited from this have been women. The living wage will

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also be introduced to local Government employees in all

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councils and I hope it is a substantial number of which will

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have led by the SNP. Caspar First Minister about his own pension in

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particular and given that he was part of the previous scheme where

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he would have accrued benefits on the basis of his time his service,

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Acas quit their he has moved to the new scheme which would be much

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better for the public purse, if not himself? I am quite certain that if

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he looks up the record for his -- he will find his question is based

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on a false premise. Can I ask the First Minister of whether the

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Scottish Government will reconsider its support for the continuation of

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a bonus points scheme for hospital doctors in the light of the

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reduction in NHS jobs and general pay freeze in the public sector?

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There are obviously huge issues across the public sector at the

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moment, how could there be otherwise with our budget been cut

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so substantially? It should be noted that staffing in NHS Scotland

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is higher than at the start of the previous Parliament. Overall, NHS

:27:16.:27:23.

staff numbers are up by 3.5% and medical and dental numbers are up

:27:23.:27:33.
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by 3.5%. He will be aware that awards and discretionary points

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have been frozen in Scotland since 2010, and spent on distinction

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Awards is now less than it was in 2007 when we came to office. He

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seems to be questioning the numbers, as she often does, it was 24.1

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million and 2007, it has come down progressively to 24.1 million in

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2007 to 23.8 million in 2011. not sure if I can start to -- thank

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him for that answer because I am talking about the bonus points

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scheme. As a time when his Government has imposed a pay freeze

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on everyone in the NHS earning over 21,000, how can he justified the

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fact that there were 201 new entrants to the hospital doctor a

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bonus points scheme last year receiving additional top ups all

:28:29.:28:32.

fat and up of their salary, and how can he justify the fact that more

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than one-third of all the consultants already in the bonus

:28:37.:28:42.

scheme were given increases at an additional cost to their health

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service of �2.6 million? And this despite the promises by the Cabinet

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Secretary to freeze the system to new entrants and to cease increases

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to other people. I know the difference and I'm sure Richard

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Simpson will be the first person to say that this was something in

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place throughout labour's time in office. The NHS board believe that

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they are contractually obliged to continue with the current scheme

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until a new system can be negotiated. That is the belief of

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the NHS's board. It is not enough for him to sweep away the

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distinction of that award scheme, because that is a scheme in which

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there is not a contractual element of entitlement and so it has been

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possible to freeze the value of a number of awards. Up to 2012, their

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work less than 84 it -- more than 84 at less consultants holding

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those awards and a saving of �4.1 million. In terms of his question,

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it is an inconvenient reminder that he is complaining about something

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that Labour are not just established the system but did

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nothing about in their entire time in office and it allows me to draw

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attention to the area at which is not contractually bound. Does he

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consider that separation from the rest of the United Kingdom could be

:30:13.:30:19.

negotiated within a year of an independence referendum? Death John

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Lamond was so confident about his position then he would not need to

:30:25.:30:30.

discuss the process of independence in such pejorative terms. Can I

:30:30.:30:35.

refer to paragraphs 4.1 and 4.5 of their referendum picture of which

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has now received 7,000 responses? Somewhat greater than the reason

:30:43.:30:46.

member but -- has a membership of the Scottish Conservative Party.

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You will find in that document a timetable after a vote for

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independence in the autumn of 2014. I am sure he, in his heart,

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genuinely agrees that the proposed timetable is proper and following a

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yes vote the first election of an independent Scotland will take

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place in 2016. Sharp exchanges there. Particularly

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